#game-discussion
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you can get by without them technically but if youre expecting to pvp much you want them
anyone got a unqiue kit they not using this wipe for wiz? would much appreciate ❤️
Is ap bugged?
no
I just slammed 2 curses on a homie, and just ran away, he couldn't catch me and died on the chase, like what is this?
a buddy of mine cant see his ap on any character after we played for like 2 days
Any body know when the wipe is supposed to occur?
april 10th
season is over
Thanks homie ❤️
thank you, sorry first wipe
All g I hope you stick around
can someone give me DB for echo? PLS HATE PLAYING BARB
Any Linux user having problems to launch the game through steam ?
what s this group all about? is it a game?
anyone interested into trying and collab w eachother? ways we can hustle and make money online? instead of whatever you do all day, lmk in dm
what is scoreboard button in arena
im a geforce user on mac and i randomly click cap locks at random intervals and it eventually pops up still dont kno how
is the season over for ap? just came back after a break
@sonic mauve how bout u stop bitchin about a dead game in the wrong channel and you switch servers to a more populated one
NERF WARLOCK, BUFF RANGER AND SORCEROR
Okay buddy everybody knows if you buff sorc you def gotta buff barb
please make warlock unplayable they're actually annoying asf
Have not played in a few weeks, came back and game is crazy darker. is this intended, any way to "fix"?
It's intended, we don't really know why they did that tho
Yes it's over. The wipe is April 10th
Guys, ironmance give some notice about the random system of the dungeon ? Like, take it off ?
Can't believe after all this time theres no way to just pull all money from coin pouches into a chest or similar
Seems crazy to not give a season ending heads up hah
They won't take it off, it's not planned. And what do you mean "some notice"? You want to know how it work? The map is made a Module, they're fixed and built by the dev team. The modules are placed randomly, even boss module, portal module etc
DOES MAG POWER MAKE PESTI DO MOER DMG?
anyone else not able to see that they achieved certain HR rewards?
What do you mean? They talked gave the Wipe date like a month ago. They gave the end of season date a couple week ago
Yes but only 50% scaling I believe
cleric build? perks and skills? buddy just started dont know cleric
guess i just missed it then in my absense, my bad. didnt come back to grind the season on thought there was more time
are the HR leaderboards over?
Don't worry, wipe is soon
@surreal mural Yes
No worries, I love wipe time. I just was hoping to get wanderer for the free bags before!
#warlock message How much money is worth?
i have a bunch of tuppererware you could sell for me. it only requires a monthly subscription of 29.95 unless opt for the vip package thats only 34.95. you get a 2nd supply up each month with bi weekly perk if your sales are adequate
just enter you card information here :->
At least next season seems more interesting than this one
420
Sell it to merchant
^^^
When wipe
April 10th
You had over a month to complete it lol, stop crying and hold this 🍼
lol
Yes
can we not queue high roller anymore?
Let’s just wipe right now frfr
they need over another week to perfect the pve map
how many people wanna bet theyll have to patch something within 3 days of its release
3 hours take it or leave it
is the game fun yet or am i just gonna get speed diffed still
whoever stacks the most ms wins 💯
Very sick, ill come back in 6 months
your a fighter stop complaining abt ms
how much does spectral coinbag hold
I think 2.5k?
Clarification on how stats work, will the increase of a stat from 15->16 be the same as 45->46? or does it scale up/down?
why si game under matyenience
That's different for most stat, and no most of the time the stat scale differently based on how much you have. If you want more detail https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats
I’ll check it out, thank you 🙏
Yeah I'm done with this game it's dead and it's ass
i am not a player, stop pissing your pants about a discord message.
if your not a player stop whinin like a kid abt ms
Dilo your the suggestion person, thoughts on pve mode so far?
next season usually a week in
So does anyone not see a problem with the invisbility spam sorcs/illusories? Like, what?
anyone has a problem starting the game?
Waiting for it to start now 🙃
why does the game constantly change my spell placement?
if you buy a stash is it permanent
until wipe yes
like the stash itself or just the stuff in it?
the legendary stash is permanent, the page not the stuff put in it
anyone with a spare sw hmu
lowkey dark and darker makes me wanna blow my brains out but like in a good way
I agree
how much are zirk eyes going for rn?
can anyone loan me some empty gold storage chests? XD found ulti emerald, sold it, but cant store enough gold to collect it from market XD
Apart from the fact i still think it's a bad idea, at least it seem they're doing it how it should be done. By that I meant that it look like they really see it as a training ground and a testing mode for new Pve feature to add to the Dungeon and nothing more, that's good. It's close of how I suggested it should be (#game-discussion message) Not perfect and will need improvement, but hopefully if they listen to the good feedback it won't be all negative. If you want a reminder of why i think a PvE mode is bad and what should be done instead -> #game-discussion message | They should focus on adding PvE and PvP contenr/Point of interest in the dungeon, we came on this game because it's a unique mix of PvP and PvE and it shouldn't be split in several mode #suggestion-discussion message
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hmm
anyone have a spare named i can have?
Epic as best quality stuff doesn't seem bad, i would make it rare if it was up to me
seems like epic's really only come from like marvelous loot
And if it's a training mode then not being able to kill people doesn't seem it
Make epics as rare as uniques in pve frfr
Honestly I don't really care about gear, Epic on boss is fine. What I was scared of was thing like Troll pelt etc and Graysun said the drop rate would be greatly nerfed in Adventure Mode
What im unhappy with is the decision to make Named items only drop from the upper level of highroller
boss too
How about you cant kill eachother in the boss room, but once it dies it's free for all
well... yea, thats fair
its for learning movesets and testing kits not farming
It's seems it'll be even more rare. In HR you had a low chance to drop some on monster or normal chest, in Adventure it seem it'll be only on boss and big chest
Would love to see a small town used as a training area, home base if you will
Amazing
huh what low chance?
In hr all I found is epic or higher
anyone else stuck on connect?
Don't have the exact number but i found Unique gear on mob a couple time
Relaunch game
i di
/bugreport
yea uniques have a small chance to drop on anything in inferno or in chest
but epics and above is all I see in hr lmao
U mostly got uniques from bossing
Uh do it again, and restart the game launcher client
okay
who got a named i can use in arenassss
ur playing tarkov
What do you mean? Like in Normal and HR? Because you can't kill anybody in Adventure mode. And talking of boss I don't understand how it'll work, because what if 3 other team join you in the boss room, the boss will get obliterated and people can "steal" your loot if they last it
lmao whaaaa
Yeah but just not being able to kill in general in adventure mode is iffy for me
And good luck killing troll with more than 2 people, it's going to be screaming alot unless they change it this wipe
About boss room, I think what I suggested is the good way. If you start the bosss fight/summon it then the door close and can't be open from outside, you can still open door from inside to run away but people can't interrupt or join your fight. For PvE mode only
dumb idea
shot down
it worked @tribal yoke ty
anybody got a zerki i got 5 em
Happy it worked
no
Maybe you can still open the doors from the outside but it takes a long time like looting someone you didnt kill
Well, it's a PvE mode so no Pvp at all. That's the point, it's there so you can learn mob, boss and game mechanic without the stress/pressure of PvP (which is a bad idea because people will then instanly drop the game when they join the real game and get stomp in PvP)
If the point of the Adventure mode is really to learn PvE and especially boss then If other player can join the fight it's pointless. Because you can't fight each other so it'll just be several team fighting the same boss, and if you're the team engaging it first or summoning it and the other team last hit the boss and can loot it first it's bad. And you didn't really learn how to do it as you got helped a lot by the other team + for some boss like Troll, Lich with the purple curse (or worse with the blue curse you could grief other player) it'll prevent you to do it
And to play with others, the comradery, it sucks they have to force not killing eachother but hey it's a solution
seem like you can still see and talk to people, so you can still help each other, just not fight
I would say adventure mode isn't just for bosses but since there's not way to kill eachother than bosses would be the main thing to do
Honestly it is. The vast majority of people I've seen asking for a PvE mode / training ground was asking that to train boss
game was having connection issues or kicking me, so i verified the files now it says i cant connect to the server? TF?
Might have to restart the game launcher
Do it again, and restart game+launcher. If that still kick you try to send a DM to @dusky trout or open a ticket on the website
I think also just the social environment,
Graysun said what I was saying before, pve mode will open stuff up that they couldn't add to normal pvpve
Imagine a boss that couldn't be done by one guy and it was this huge battleground of people working together
I'd prefer to have that in the PvPvE mode. It'll be rough first but they need to stick to it, the community will adapt or a new one will emerge.
Eithe way with pve mode finally put in and hopefully
A bunch of tweaks aren't needed we can get actual new content in focus
U understand that some people genuinely enjoy PvE aspect of this game and hate getting ran up on by blood thirsty mfrs. like arena exists.
Like they should have kept the Wyvern
Arena feels like I'm a dog trapped in a corner, one room isn't enough for the full dark and darker experience
I think pve mode should probably only be to learn the game and than graduate to the pvpve mode.
Here's your diploma 📜
Yeah but same Arena shouldn't exist. I believe they can achieve to add Point of interest for both PvE and PvP and people who want to PvP go in their point of interest while the PvE player have their place too. But it's never safe, you can run on other player. And then your call to fight or run/talk to appease the situation
Will bodies be lootable in pve mode
Great question, no idea
I don't think we know that. Didn't heard anything about it. I don't hope it'll be. Otherwise it'll push people to grief each other
Like if person dies to boss will they be lootable?
Great question, no idea


I can already see the toxic player, playing Adventure mode only to grief other people 
when i open the game on Epic it just stays on connecting?
delisted on epic
you gotta use ironmaces launcher and port over since epic delisted
so I lost the free legendary edition or will I still have it?
Still have it but you need to migrate your account to Blacksmith (Ironmace launcher). I believe you'll need to open a ticket on their website or maybe send a DM to @dusky trout
do hr lobbies usually take long to get into a game ?
can i still farm ap?
No the season is over
Valid rage bait, only bought the game a little over a week ago
The best solution for this game is to sell it to a large company that knows how to develop it.
hot take, arenas with named items are so trash
season is over but everything was reset so whats the point
Who'll add battle pass and payable stash extension and class or DLC with new map? No thx
You'll get the reward after the wipe. The AP reward are meant to be used in the next season
-No gameplay improvements
-No new content
-Balance changes every two days
-False promises of new maps
-Added fog of war and random maps. Now they want to gather everyone in one lobby +225 because the other lobbies don't drop valuable items. Why all this? This is just to ruin the game.
Sorry to be attacking so much but I love this game and I don't want to see it lose its fans
I'd say the beginning steps to elemental weaknesses on mobs is a vastly positive gameplay improvement, we got sorcerer and new sorcerer spell merges & perks, balance changes are healthy and makes sure that one overpowered method doesn't reign too highly over other strategies, and I may be wrong but I don't think the water map was a promise for this wipe but instead a hope. In order to make the water map actually good they need to make sure that the monsters can swim, and to do that without adding an astronomical amount more 'technical debt' they need to clean up and revise this means putting even more time and resources towards recoding all the mob AI 
Loud incorrect buzzer
did they freeze ap? it isnt showing me gaining any
Season ended bud
it's disabled on geforce now??
Fog of war and randomized modules within maps makes the dungeon-crawling experience greater; if your sole goal is to run from point A to point B repeatedly you're playing the game in a very dull manner. Experiencing the dungeon and acquiring loot along the way is how the game offers itself, and that's how they continue to develop it 
The idea of "wanting to gather everyone in 225+ gear score lobbies" is so the absolute highest tier of player in terms of gear and willingness to battle can have that experience, because a lot of the outcries in High Roller lobbies come from people 'ratting for AP' and become less willing to fight and instead opt to run. This reason and more, it's fine that IronMace wants to experiment with these changes. I'm keen to see how it goes, because of everything they detailed in the Tavern Table livestream I'm actually incredibly keen to play this fresh new wipe 👍
fuck, i was so close to demi lol
at this point ion care what they do im still pretty new and having lots of fun
The part of the new wipe I think is a minor change that is also really good for a player like me is the idea to make the first High Roller gear score bracket extend from 0-224, because I would hate putting on random pieces of armour and weapons just to be able to play this hardcore experience, and because of this I'd opt to play in 0-24 normal dungeons because it's less hassle and an incredibly even playing field when it comes to PvP 
do we get the season ranked awards at the beginning of next wipe or the beginning of the next season?
That's what it's all about, the entertainment dollar. Bottem line...having fun.
Yes, once the servers are back up after wipe you will be able to redeem the rewards you earnt enough AP to claim for 
I love the old game , but now all they're doing is ruining that fun. If they want to add a fog of war system or a random map, why don't they add a new floor or a good map with this system and leave our beloved maps as they are?
Variety is the spice of life 👍
For example, they add a floor below the Inferno that is very difficult and add randomness or fog of war to it.
when is wipe?
April 10th
anyone having troubling finding arena match ups? got nothing after 5mins
quick question
Which servers are the most populated for dark and darker, like which server should i select to get the fastest matchmaking?
dont add adventure mode, delete choosing servers and just auto select lowest ping, balance class stats and perks around normals 24 all common gear, then balance GEAR around 225+ highroller
anyone wanna do me a trade nip for fulg, wanted to try fulg
This stunts the onboarding of new, inexperienced players, and removes the option to play with friends on the other side of the US or another country 
If IronMace chooses to only cater to the remaining players when players see change as divisive anyway, the game will have no more players - this way that they are trying takes in new players and at the same time caters to the existing playerbase 
hey i didnt say ban joining other servers, yea i understand that people abusing ping could bypass this by queuing with someone across the world but that would mean requiring a friend across the entire world or atleast wherever you want to be, adding this adventure mode will only add an extra 9 queues (accounting for servers), split the playerbase more and provide a gamemode that does not in any shape or form prepare you for the actual game (arena and pvpve)
when is wipe?
10th
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huge thanks ❤️
it will prob take a few hours
whats the update for
Whoa what time is that showing for you
Adding a PvE would be beneficial it allows to farm bosses especially ghost king until I understand then go in to PvP.
10th April 4PM? It's dynamic and shows the start of the new wipe downtime in the viewer's local time
Yeah that's it, its 8AM for me, perfect
yep one am for me
Okay, Warlock is pretty baller
anyone got a viola they wanna let go to a good cause? got a nip to trade
hey anyone know why all of my AP is gone? i know wipe is soon but i yhought its suposed to go after the wipe
whats easiest way to get rubysilver ore? (looted)
lost my green boots I took in on normal lobbies last night, did something chance?
center of ruins hidden room downstairs
thank you heftytestes
the tile is called square, look for a statue with an arm u can activate. has a giant worm down there but its fairly easy to kill
thx dude
are the cosmetic quest rewards still up until actual wipe for merchants?
does the wipe affect merchant rep
yes
kms 😭
all quests are reset
They keep making this terribly run game worse. These dudes know exactly how to mess up a good thing. Player base looks like crap too
do yall know if true mag affects cinder?
idk but why tf cant i see my demigod status anymore
Just me or is EVERYONE IN ARENA INVISIBLE? I cant remember the last time I even saw a player that wasnt a ranger because EVERYONE HAS ILLUSARY
yeah i cant see my rank anymore
kind of annoying i cant see my rank either. end of wipe thing ig
im assuming ppl cant rank up now
Does anyone know if with the new changes will increase the chances of artifacts in HR?
thats kinda annoying, they better not scam us
correct
I think there will be no artifact in 224-, and more than previously in 225+
I might be wrong though don't quote me on that
✅
can i migrate my bs account via the launcher 2 get my twitch drops on my steam account where i have the legendary status?
I want to believe they will increase, it is frustrating asf to enter without seeing the map, fight a boss that kills you in one hit and lose everything if you die, to have 1% chance of getting a green stick
To see your rank for this season, choose the class from the character select, then click the 'Leaderboard' tab, the 'Solo High-Roller' option will automatically be chosen but you can change it to duos or trios, and your placement, rank, and AP score will appear in the bottom left of the leaderboard display 👍
💯
game has been very laggy recently. Anyone else?? lots of rubberbands and going back to the same place I just was, or just dying to someone 10m away
im stuck in the loading screen, first time playing as well, no idea whats going on it just says connecting
So read more about the PvE update and want to make sure what I read is correct- you share the server with other players outside of your party, you just can't hurt each other?
That is the very basic premise of it, yes
Is there going to be systems in place to prevent someone stacking movement speed and just annoying you the whole time?
when is wipe ?
April 10th
thx
Measures are already taken to remove griefing elements like bodyblocking collision via your own body as well as entity summons like druid's treant or warlock's hydra 👍
I'm sure more measures will be taken for people that harrass and use offensive language over proximity chat, such as an option to report the user, hopefully outside of needing to live spectate the user 
Staff, if you gonna start silencing me because of how many times in a row i've said the same thing, i'll start feeding the homeless
Alright cool, I am also a little worried about loot stealing, but glad to hear that. Thanks!
Loot stealing as in "oh i am gonna follow you and open every chest" not just like getting somewhere first
Wondering where your input went
Slowmode is super fast
Because i've said "April 10th" like 18 times?
no because u have valid opinions i like to read
can someone explain to me why they put uniques in arena and not give everyone uniques? they want the best gear to win? gear over ability?
yes
Not gunna lie its hard to learn bosses in this wipe
The what now?
Pve mode gear should not be transferable to norms
why
i want to be able to grind PVE to use it in arena and high roller
Pve mode should only be used for practice and soley practice of game
People tht are experts can finish boss fast so they can get gear faster
Causing ppl to rush boss and get gear and go pvpve mode faster
so
im not worried about it the gear they can get there is outclassed by almost everything best they can get is purple if they do bosses
Having it not transfer would be a headache and confusing ngl, but I'm not going to really play it other than for learning bosses
pve and boss rush should be seperate
Endgame is with boss gear(uniques)
also pve will be a dream for completing anoying quests
Meh they can only get purples who cares
End game is artofacts
Pve's gonna be hella boring after a while imo
shoulve released pve when they have something like a boss needing more than one person like when wyvern first came out
End game is artofacts
That's when the new players can choose to proceed to normal dungeons, and if they have access they can continue to the hardcore experience of High Roller 
Pve is just test server for everyone really
If everyone learnt bosses artifacts would be more rare....
ANYONE HAVE A BIS LEATHER CAP I CAN BUY FOR 2 EM
what if the first layer was PvE and then you go down 1 red and it becomes PvP
More expensove
nobody is selling on trade tab
Expensove
They are upping the drop rate but only for high highroller
name is jaeas
Expensive
is that not a good idea?
i think they missed not having it like this: would also lessen total number of lobbies
ANYONE HAVE A BIS LEATHER CAP I CAN BUY FOR 2 EM NAME IN TRADE TAB IS JAEAS
Meh pve mode is fine the way we treat new players it's probably nessacary
Meh, they'll quit the game once they learn that pvp is a thing imo
Give timmy a place to learn to drink potions
If PvE mode is to teach players how to fight the AI mobs then why would they limit it to the first level? Do you not want players to learn how to fight the various mobs in crypts and inferno?
I think the limit is hr and rarity of gear you can find
thats a fair point
Make artifacts less of a drop rate and make ppl learn bosses making artifacts more expensive
They said like up to purples or something
tbh i just want pve to learn hell
Ez
so i can do it better
what if after first level different reds lead to different maps
Meh artifacts are cool as a chase item but making it more rare would make me want to quit
like 1 to gobby caves for PvP or other for crypts and going down
Already can go 100kills dry
since most people hoard artifacts mostly cuz losing one is terrible they should increase the drop rate
from .6% to like 1%
With artifacts now being only top gear hr it could even be like 2%
Meh
those 3 letters are ILLEGAL
Most games i play good gear is like 1%
That's why artifacts got so expensive before event
People should learn bossong
Alot of the sellers bought up the entire stock to sell it at a markup
But aye idk
some bosses are terrible but i agree like comeon banshee i know how to beat but your magic volley is straight BS
lets have an attack you cannot see and hardly dodge
I mean 1% is ok but still an enormous investment of time for the chance to hit
When does the game wipe?
imagine if ghost king main attack was magic volley
Like 10 mins to 20 mins on average per kill
wouldnt be very fun now would it
And that's being hyper efficient and finding boss room very fast never dying and never fighting
20-30 mins a kill if you interact with the map
Double for every death
More like an mmorpg droprate
Idek that much about black desert
you can only upgrade gear by combining like pieces (smash)
Gatcha style refining ?
if it faisl (ssuper high chance it qwill) you lose it all
Only game i could play like that was ragnarok
theres like 5 or 6 tiers i think and getting to 4 alons takes forever
millions of in game currency
then you have to do it twice and gamble just to level up
for each item
I mean it would be super easy to turn the game into a cash grab and dip
10$ dlc that gives u a backpack type sht
Spend 2$ to roll the gamba wheel and mabye get a named wep
Cash grab would be garbage people already treat arena like cs:go
Yeah I just mean the fact they haven't prioritized draining your wallet means they are good people
Most devs that's all they think about
Like if ur not good at this game i think of u differently likr cs:go(skill issie)
Cash grab would be not good
Playing a game where I look forward to the shop items they release is wild
Like I have the Redstones
Give me skins

Imagine having a 001% chance finding a red shard
Tht would be cool
Like HR has a chance to have a red shard drop
Only bosses?
I think every time you successfully get someone banned for cheating u get 1 Redstone
Pay me for my kit lol
A Hr experoence with a red shard drop rate would make everything more expensive
whens the wipe?
Or give shards for completing every quest in a wipe
Like here is 3 shards f or doing everything good job
One would be good too
Just release a green campfire
Ill buy it
I think i missed the hr one
r the goblin and tavern keeper quests still active?
Yes
For 7 days
tygamer
an reward for completing every quest would be great! someone should put that in #d-and-d-suggestions #suggestion-discussion even if it is only a coin bag for next wipe or 1 blue shard . something would be cool
I haven't seen a single unique mob this wipe either lol
How do you get out of hell nowadays? Didn't heard a single portal (normal mode)
Just tried to teleport with Electric Dash on Sorc, and it said "Cannot teleport/cast while in the spirit realm". Has anyone gotten this before?
i got a skeleton unique enemy and it didn't even have a unique weapon :/
@glad thunder when is the vision dropping
is this game seriously not crossplay between blacksmith - steam - epic?
Open your eyes my boy
Now you see dont you?
Give me an AFK report button for people in the arena
its the thumbs down
Yo my game crashed as soon as arena finished and my ssf gear is gone all my gear
I have had problems with gear disappearing during this wipe as well
Im done with this game
Wtf
Yo how i lose my whole arena kit after one crash it was a server issue
What’s the official wipe day date
Is high roller done for obtaining AP?
It shows 5 days and 19 hours in-game
Yes
I do wonder
damn 😦
why are there seven rounds of arena?
Iron mace is a trash company
man got wrecked, whatd u expect if u never been there?
Fk this game
in case of draws
get rid of FOW been playing from the beginning and the state the game is in right now is absolutly trash. You cant have FOW, map randomization and zone all at the same time. such trash
fow ruined the game
who cares bro it wipes in 5 days lol
Bro ik
Stop spamming man no one cares
But why would i wanna build a kit next wipe
The game is bad we all know
If i feel like my game finna crash i lose my whole kit
Play some 0-24's for the luls.. doesn't that go away soon
bro you played arena all wipe with that kit go step on some grass my friend
Unintentionelly due to a server issue
And also tht does not matter tht its end of wipe
i lost my kit to last night in a real high roll game due to there server crash update shit smh
I should still not lose my gear prgession
how bout we talk about some real issues
End of wipe
likehow the devs dont play their own game nor listen to their community
Done with this game and community
damn being done with the community is crazy. we did nothing to you lol
sorc illusary
hey im new to dark and darker and im having a visual issue that is only on this game where do i go for help?
eye doctor
i mean thats how it feels idk
0-124 just means some of the people you kill will have gear. I don’t think 124s are enough to gear gap you unless they are good AND have gear.
i cant see "the tavern" channel anyone got a guess as to why?
Take it as a blessing
#the-tavern
You hide it
You need new glasses
Fuck did I do
my demigod status and rewards went back to neophyte, the hell just happend?
To see your rank for this season, choose the class from the character select, then click the 'Leaderboard' tab, the 'Solo High-Roller' option will automatically be chosen but you can change it to duos or trios, and your placement, rank, and AP score will appear in the bottom left of the leaderboard display 👍
You will be able to receive the appropriate rewards after the servers go live after wipe on the 10th 
Why does Cut Throat not work on Sorcs? Is it broken or a feature?
they don't use skill slots to cast spells i think, that's why
I know that, but it is gone, even the progress i had in duos and trios went back to 0
and solos i got demigod
Are you sure you're looking at the correct EA season, and have the appropriate team size selected before reading your placement, rank, and AP score?
im sure, even my character doesnt have the colour of the rank anymore
They need to fix that SH%(*#$U it's so OP. Wizards are pretty much a joke now compared to invincible sorcs. I thought druid was the most broken class, but a sorc with 2 brain cells can be literally invincible
And you're absolutely positive you're looking in the right spot as I listed out for you?
yep
Have you not played the game in the past several days? It's been turned off / removed since wipe is coming now
so i was talking to a friend about this 1 there is a "wipe" leaderboard ending timer, there is not a AP progession stops in x timer that is something that the general player base knows becaues of previous wipes it allways happens 1 week prior to the end of leaderboard
oke
Don't bother, Hoste doesn't know what they are talking about
I'm not the one to be telling, I'm simply helping this person find their AP rank for the season 
Don't give advice when you don't know what your saying
squidly your as tilted as didly calm down that wizard must have fucked you up good
Naw the wizard is a trash class now, they are ez to kill
me next?
If you knew how to read, I was complaining about invincible sorcs
your right i actually read the whole thing it was the sorc
lmao typed that at the same time XD
A sorc with illusory and 2 brain cells is literally invincible, can easily wipe 3 mans by themselves
its a named unuique wait till a barb yells in your face and 2 taps the whole team
just go 0-24 lobbys and be a chad
with cinder or a fighter with fulgor sprints and perrys
have you seen a zerkis eye that shits op
As a rogue with a death bloom, I can kill everything except a sorc, since cut throat doesn't seem to work on them
😂
that was the basis of my complaint, is why cut throat doesn't work on them
right @icy forum
running rougue and deathbloom....
how does cuttroat not work? it does lmao
a few hours ago in arena I found a wiz that hitted like a truck and didn't die after some attacks lol
not on sorcs, it's broken or bugged
try a viola it has better reach
proof?
I feel like you failed reading comprehension class
Anyone else have arena kit dissapear?
Bruh
Game crashed after i lost and lost whole kit
In ARENA
seems devs are gatenkeeping end game
I quit
Greedy players are gate keeping it lol
You can go haunt some streamers and get lucky with a giveaway. Lots of them are giving away kits / named items this week since wipe
WTT AEG AND SPELLWEAVER FOR ILL
@zinc sparrow @glad thunder Since we're wiping next Thursday, Can you do a quick hot patch and make it to where we can gamble named weapons from the Goblin Merchant please?
Not the best and brightest idea to spam ping the staff for an idea 
I sent one message. Womp womp
Identical message and pings in the same minute in another channel. Please be mindful when tagging developers (rule 13) #📜rules
Not identical pings, learn to read
@zinc sparrow @glad thunder Since we're wiping next Thursday, Can you do a quick hot patch and make it to where we can gamble named weapons from the Goblin Merchant please?
I love you. You're awesome
WHERE IS MY MULTICLASSING
Make all named weapons available from Gobo Man so we can go crazy
I mean in regular lobbys like last season
What day exactly is wipe?
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Thanks
Anyone know how I can link my blacksmith account to my steam account?
is sorcerer leaving after wipe?
I bet more casters nerfs are coming due to SDF playing fighter
When is wipe
dawg
look up
Huh didn't see that :(
😭
Open the schools
Wipe on four video game . These is game nont good for play to keybaord. .
when is the next wipe? Wasnt it yesterday?
10th April, yesterday was when the season ended
does anyone know if theres a date to when the unqiues/artifacts in arena will end?
make expressman and dungeon recovery only for legendary accounts
probably with wipe, its end of wipe event
im trying to get my epic client to the point of giving me the code. but i allways get the message "Failed to connecto to the server. Quit the game". i allready deleted the files (except for the egstore folder) and replaced them with the ones from the Blacksmith launcher.
bro 😦
mobs should not be able to target me though walls
there was another ninja patch yday, so replace files again after making sure other client works
pls man i cant keep fighting people with viola and fulgor i just wanna play arenas
guess your not hardcore enough for it, I hereby sentence you for PvE lobby next wipe
i only did the workaround just now so that shouldnt affect me.
no im beating most players with artifacts there really bad for sum reason but its just not fun to get negative action speed and slowed by everything
on the other client i can get to the point where i could input the epic code
sdf playing wizard when?
im gonna try and message technical suport
when hell freezes
im convinced sdf has never played wizard in his life
like actually start with nothing and play solo
is the game hardcore lagging for anyone else?
wizard being first caster should be most polished and refined over time, instead, he was left in the dust and forgotten, he desperately needs some new spells imo
sorc is just superior wizard with no downside
true
bring back b hop
wiz just needs a skill expression/movement ability (blink) or something like that
anyone wants a ultimate ruby on eu?
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come trading post and give me your ign
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thanks bro
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wait I cant change the Engine.ini anymore ? how am i suppose to optimize this game when FSR is disabled ?
By getting a better pc. Also dont change game files :)
or they could also enable FSR no ?
pretty sure that would fix all my probs
the game punishes good people i get called a f***** and i get a penalty for team killing
They cant just flip a switch to turn it on. They have to make sure it wont cause problems
they just dont optimize games anymore this days
well f me i guess, ill find a way somehow.
If my secondary and primary slot are full am i going to move slower even though theyre unequiped when i run?
or is the movement debuff only applied when holding the weapon
dumb question but i thought id ask
Only when holding the weapon
Best way to get Ap?
kill all mobs, only loot chests dont loot mobs
always take red portal
desync is killing the game for me bruh like wtf
Thanks
also i recommend bringing a lot of meds and just dropping them as you go. Treasure is usually ur best bet but obviously its not that big of a deal if you rather take loot and sell it on market
a lot of meds will let you just yolo through the dungeon spamming pots/bandages and you dont have to think too hard
eh, donno, it is a glass cannon, not kiting class, you technically can nuke anyone before they get to you, unless you were jumped, or are against druid
ironmace sees your concern and reacts to this by buffing barb
Does someone know how spells with multiple elements apply the dmg reduction? Like for example i cast elemental bolt which does 50 hybrid dmg and i hit the wyvern which has -25% fire and +50% ice.
Will it be 50 * (1 + 0,25 - 0,5) = 37,5 or 50 * (1 * 1,25 * 0,5) = 31,25 ?
why did they remove the map from goblin caves? sorta new and come back to not being able to find a exit D:
Ruins, crypt, goblin, inferno - full random modules
its new direction for dungeon, frost mountain will become like that as well in near future
awe 😦
Thanks do I have to get out for ap?
mildly depressing, kinda like the mobile version more now
for loot AP yes, obviously, for kill AP no
Ah I watched a video saying go down to inferno die and repeat I was lied to
How does crypt portals work in high roller do they spawn like normal or like goblin high roller?
Going down one stage gives you 100AP. Going to Inferno totals for 200AP. You should still get them when dying. That's why he said to simply go down and die since it's the fastest way to get out.
Spellweaver and Echo of Screams for Elven bow anyone?
Ah does leaderboard take time to update? I was on 422 died in inferno and was still on 422
Normaly not. You should take a look on the endscreen to see which Ap you get.
DOES LAD ONLY PROC 1 TIME IN ARENA?
Didn't pop up
Just died in crypts still on 422 and no pop up when I died
Base high rollers fine right?
these named items in arena
Should be. Try extracting in Ruins and look if you get AP that way.
making the mode atrociously trash rn
Shall do thanks
season ended yesterday and leaderboards were closed, you can't get AP and ranks anymore
Wait... didn't they close the climb already? Some days ago it said about 10 days left when you opened the leaderboard. What does it say now?
Ok, he just said it xD
yea season ended april 3
Heh
Why end season before wipe though?
season begins later than wipe and ends faster than wipe, its just how it is
It's disappointing for folks like us and those that come back to the game because of the PvE announcement xD
Because they can
game bad
they bought the new wipe on unreal engine store
Hello i did 2 goblin cave high roller i didnt get any ap why ?
Absolutely trolling
i got elven for kuma claw which i got for fang which i got from lad+2 em which i got from spellweaver+1 eme which i got from deathbloom which i got from zirks i love trading post :D
ranked is over my guy
Cause i stole it all
Hr season is over
wipe is in 5 days
okay ty !
great question. unfortunately I think we can't test this? there needs to be perks for specific magic types correlating to sorc elements
so someone called you a name and u killed them in game
how about for overtime in arena, we remove the mobs instead of respawning them
nah
is there a wipe soon?
Nah clearly not
whats wrong about changing files ?
Its called cheating :)
clearly not
optimizing with in game files is not cheating
Yes, it's set for the 10th April
thx
jaygrifu its found dead on car crash accident R.I.P. leyend
ig its cheating if I want 10 more fps huh XD
It is :)
Your modifying game files. And thats cheating :)
game is dog shart
Is there any info speculations when the new season will start?
its bannable 🫡
how about getting a PC that isn't 15 years old? The game runs flawless on a toaster, I've played it on regular monitor on Steam Deck, which is roughly gtx980 power
WHY OH WHY is there not a quick inv/add button by right clicking on the name of a player you just had a great game with. I can never find these players ever again. It needs a change. Trolling through hundreds of names to find a steam name is crazy.
damn bro im sorry for being broke
get a job, helps a lot
cant im still in college
im only asking for optimizations
its nothing insane
the particle effects alone drops fps by 20
you're not going to get any optimization, because the game is optimized, your hardware is just this old
get better pc ins exactly a solution
How you add strangers to play with its only friends list?
idk man graphics of this level shouldt need something better than my current rx580 8gb
ive seen many games with better graphics that run better so I just wanted to ask about optimization possibilities
The fact the map they have been talking about for months now won't even drop with wipe. Worthless devs rip
just asked for optimization tips, not to get roasted tnx
its not a pixel art game, aesthetics choice does not mean low graphical requierments, tho DaD does have extremely low ones already, and 4 generations old GPU is still 4 generations old GPU, my wife has 1060 and can't play anything modern already outside of mobile ports and pixel arts
lowkey dnd graphics on max look impressively good
damn ill see what i can do then
Badly optimized game on a horribly optimized game. Not much you can do about it other than tweak cfg
finally useful advice
is it bannable tho ?
Why does my fps just half when players are nearby
Possibly. If you go to the extremes like some people, removing shadows etc, it's definitely bannable
How do you remove shadow?
People have done texture and fx tweaks since playtests and I've never heard anyone getting banned for it
According to Odin, IM is able to monitor what people do with their cfg files
I don't have his messages on this subject on hand tho atm
Some people have managed the game to look like Quake 3 and run it at buttery smooth fps
is there a reddit thread for that ?
Idk
To run the game with good performance..?
Make Dungeon Recovery have higher chance of returning self-found items
but its relevant only to people whose PC still have to be loaded with coal to operate
If you say so 
This is my favourite example of DaD performance.
Fps drops by over 50% when you bring out your book
https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/hZnpDN7NJekMM3eSr?invite=cr-MSxKTFMsMjIyODU2MTQ3
Surely the fx on book and the textures on your screen warrant the hit on frame rate 
if you use trash pc, it will impact it - I used to have old, shitty car, it didn't mattered when I floored gas pedal, when it just refused to accelerate faster due to engine being old and weak, it really is the same with GPUs and PCs
It's an old clip and that issue has been fixed at some point. The game was unplayable for me and some people for a bit
bad performance argument has zero relevance if you do not list setup behind that performance
Aight bro 
Why are devs afraid of numbers non divisible by 5?
in my professional opinion, I think they should nerf warlock
bring back b hop
yeah no thanks mate
I think its alr now
Are people insane at this game now generally? Like are there any newcomers anymore? I haven't played in at least a year
so i can play my class again
yo guys how long will servers be down for?
is it possible to still move your account across from chaf?
its buggy
Artifact is the same as named. Unique quality weapon with some effect
im a caster i have slow ms and get slowed even more when holding a book and then also again while casting it was the only way to kite and cast effectively with ice bolt ice mastery now my only option is to be a mm turrent and hope i win the dps trade that or go the melee bonk route theres no skill expression skill or spell for wiz
sure that would be a start but it wouldn't be enough when a barb runs at you at max ms with weapon out more of a ms isssue this game has allways had a ms issue with b hop you would still prob die but u have a chance if u play perfect and have good spacing u cant do that now u to slow u just die just removed player skill expression and agency its even more of a issue coz they nerfed mp to they just need to give wiz a movemnet abilitys similar to sorc eltric dash and it would be fine
yup 100% and i dobt it i haven't played since the be hop removal it fundamentally changes how i play the game seems weird to have a mechanic in the game since pt1 then just remove it all of a sudden with no compensation could of atlest buffed casters ms or something all it did was buff all melee classes i dont play warlock but i can imagine its worse of just as bad for them all it does it make people pryo ms and agi stat again genraly the person at higher ms has the advantage witch is just bad balance also barb having biggest hp pool max ms and strongest dmg per swing is criminal makes no sense
Warlock spells do self damage which takes you out of invis sometimes
It is
Sometimes the damages is done after invis and sometimes before
Based on ping
You can hydra the sky to guarantee the invis cuz it won’t do dmg
you have ice bolt with wiz but nothing like phatomise and u also have to take a perk to even get value on it and u also have to hit it by the time u charge up cast and it hits they make up for the gap coz u so slow yeah wiz needs a rework or some new spells
Uh no it just doesn’t spawn so it doesn’t cost health but it still counts as a cast for illusory
Queing into double ranger with pesti and warlock izi is a horrible arena experience lol
Anyone know if there will be bosses or what tiles are used in the pve mode? I know it's capped to epic loot.
They said that there will be bosses in PvE, and they'll have the best loot along with the bigg chests
Oh so the bosses aren't capped to epic?
Poooooop
At least can practice bossing a bit for the PVP side cool
Yea no complaints, I was worried they might've just put it at random tiles n no bosses
Yeah, best loot within the limit. They said epic, but I wouldn't be surprised if it would be possible to get a legendary with enough luck
Are all/most the bosses gunna be available ?
I might have misunderstood but in PvE it will be random bosses (like it is currently), but for the normal/HR mode you will need to use items to summon the boss
Items found on mobs/sub-bosses
Greens and a bit of blue should be plenty, with the purple loot being 0.0 😳
I just saying that I would not be surprised if someone posted a screenshot of a legendary item since I think you can start with any gear score on PvE and can take a max luck kit
selling soul scraper and 2 gold coin chest full for fulgor
When does next wipe start
Too much work for a 1% chance :/
IM GOING TO TWEAK OUT, ive been playing dark and darker all day today, arena btw, and in all 27 of the games ive played so far there was a sorcerer with an illusory or whaterver the fuck its called, this game is going to make me tweak out. in all my years of playing dark and darker witch is like 2, ive never seen a more op class in my life, and after all that they are probably gonna decide to give him a buff. like dawg remove the illusory from sorcerer. ITS UNSTOPPABLE. its like im fighting CASPER THE NOT SO FRIENDLY F*CKING GHOST
excuse my language
Is the game down right now or just me?
i think its just you
Oof. Getting that Failed to Connect message out of nowhere.
end of wipe event, have fun and stop crying. not like ur seeing an illusory in raid every game
what a way to shut someone up, and i do see an illusory in raid games
u cry alot
this is my first ever message how is 1 message ever me crying a lot
i really dont lmao
your just assuming the type of person i am from one message, i was trying to get other people oppinion with my message, to see if people relate to the problem that im having
its not me crying its me trying to connect with people thru the same problem that one person has with one another
assuming is the really messed up thing in all of this, and its really disrespectful
5 messages in a row says otherwise lol
crying about a weapon a week before wipe
is crazy
that you barely see in game btw

not enough to cry ab it
yea its arena
i see 18 fulgors in one game at a time
dont see my crying ab it
my first message and im all of a sudden a cry baby
you do you bro, i was just tryna see if people had the same relation that i had
but name calling isnt gonna do anything lol
if im complaining about an illusory what makes you think i can get one
and again not crying, and again assuming
REN stop typing and crying no one cares
he cares enough to keep texting non stop at me
so i think someone does care
mind your own business bro
real talk can you guys kiss now
This is game discussion not cry baby discussion
clearly you don't know what game your playing lol.
im down
lmao im discussing about the game
someone slow
Crying
youre*
used the wrong your it's over
crying and cant spell smh
i havent played dnd is a while. i have both steam and blacksmith versions, but its making me select one because there is no more cross platform? is there any reason to pick blacksmith over stream or other way around?
stuck on connecting?
This game sux. The only fun queue is the lowest, the rest of the queues are min max, gear abuse.
Happy friday folks. Trying to get this game running on the steam deck, tried proton6-9, experimental, no luck. I read that sometimes certain patches make it so it simply doesnt work and then it might work on other patches. Has anyone had any luck? Thank you in advance.
I also didnt have any luck even tried every Proton
darn, must be one of those patches then, I do keep getting an Error 16, do you as well?
I do to
I hope they delay wipe by a week or sum so i can hop on my PC to use my Cinder kit
thanks for the responses friend. guess ill wait! good luck to you and happy weekend
To you to Adventurer
did anyone get high roller rewards yet? leaderboard reset for my character but no rewards
wait for the wipe i guess?
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Wipe is ass.
okay and?
Just saying
cool i guess?
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i can agree on that :3
iirc unique emerald
unique, not epic, nor legendary, unique (so yes, ultimate) :3
Is there a spreadsheet of all the items you need for all the quests for the upcoming season?
I would like to know which items i need to save, and which i can sell so i don't clog up my stash tabs with shit i wont need.
yes wiki has
wait wait wait, you wanna save items for the next season? oh buddy, im sorry to inform you that after april 10th, everything's gone :3
... ofc not
yo why is the Cleric Class Discussion tab simping for emma frost right now?
The quests are not the same season-to-season.
from what ive gathered, many of the quests are the same
the rewards as well? like the cosmetic ones?
whats the best named bow yous reckon?
New cosmetics every season yes.
so i should rush the ones that have the cosmetic stuff if i wanna get it i guess?
Yeah, get the ones you want done now, you won't get another chance unless they decide to re-sell that skin layer or something like that.
aight, thx :3
REMOVE FOG OF WAR, SORC AND DRUID AND THE GAME IS SAVED
Given those are my two favourite classes, I disagree lol.
yeahh exepct you forget about ranger, wizard, cleric, every classs is OP at somepoint or anither cuz ironmace cant balance there game right but classes dont need removing just need tweaking
well its a way to balance it out, make everything op and nothing is op :P
Sorc isn't even stronger than wizard tbh. Spammable spells are way stronger. They should actually give wiz cooldowns instead of spell uses - it feels better and it's easier to balance. It's a win-win.
Wizard does not have enough offensive spells to use cooldowns. they use fireball, zap, magic missile, ice bolt, and then they gotta run away for 30 seconds? Just incentivizes playing like a mosquito rather than actually fighting
You think wiz doesn't have enough offensive spells? You crazy?
Compared to sorc? 100%
I actually agree wiz needs more spells, but not more offensive ones.
If they don’t have enough offensive spells then they will need to use their rotation then run away
Which isn’t a healthy play style
That's... just not true. There's no way in which wizard runs out of offensive spells before one cds lol
You use fireball, zap, ice bolt, and then what?
That’s your rotation
I guess explosion too
You... don't seem to have played sorc. Sorc can repeat merged spells after like two spells, sometimes three.
Using up two spells at once.
I’m not saying that sorc can’t repeat spells, I’m saying sorc has a LOT more spells than wizard, which makes cooldowns make more sense for the class
What makes you think icebolt of all things won't have a reasonable cooldown? Or zap?
Sorc, has less spells than wizard in practice, you do realize that right?
Because it merges
It has more flexibility, not more spell uses.
And they still have single spells to use between those larger cooldowns
If wizard can only use one of each spell every 20 seconds, they would be useless and have to run away for 15 seconds each rotation
20 seconds? What are you talking about, that isn't how the cd system even works.
Why are you arguing from the point of view of unreasonable CDs lol?
Why are we talking about spell memory
Spell memory defines the CD
5 seconds is a very long time when in a fight.
You realize in this system 5 second is the cd of zap
It might actually be 4
One moment let me check
5 seconds is quite a while for just a single zap
when wipe?
Why would we want wiz and sorc to play the same? Slots versus cooldowns helps with class identity
It's 4. I had a perk on that increased it
Cooldowns is a better system to play with and to balance. The only reason to keep the slots system is to want to spam zap in pvp.
And sorc has another defining trait: casting with hands and merging
i think we can all agree warlock needs to be nerfed
Wizard should get more spells though, at least that I agree with. I personally think they should be the class with necromancy for instance
It's tragic they don't have any summons but sorc, lock and druid all do
I disagree about it being a better system. I enjoying having to rest for spells to recover and with spell overload it isn’t bad at all
I think you're lying. Nobody in their right mind actually agrees sitting down to recover spells is a more fun system.
But okay.
Giving wizard more spells and giving them cooldowns literally just makes the a sorc, it removes their class identity
It is though. It is a unique system that is one of my fav things about the game. I love camping with a team.
It makes them not trash in pve, it makes their magic feel massively better, and again, it's easier to balance spells that can't be spammed.
It doesn't remove shit tbh.
Agreed. Having a proper rest when you're exhausted just makes sense.
Sorc is radically different because of spell merging and its different list
And it would stay that way.
And I think that about all spellcasting uses btw
Cleric, druid, etc would all massively benefit from cds. The spell use system is just bad.
Each to their own though I suppose
I think you're lying to preserve your classes' combat power though.
I've heard countless wizards agree that resting isn't pleasant.
Nah, spell uses are also a way for your team or the enemy team to plan how they fight. If I see a cleric use sanctuary, I know they only have one left. And can’t just spam it every 15 secs.
And you're either baiting or lying because it means losing spammed zap-explosions
That doesn't change with cds lol
Sanctuary is a mem 6 spell. It would at minimum haave a 30 second cooldown
lmao I think you take pixels way too seriously. I genuinely love camping and what it brings to the game. Feels like a proper adventure. It sounds like you need to just go play MMOs.
And cleric has negative RES
It's not an insult, or some sort of serious jab, I just think you're lying. :/ And I think it's obvious.
Either that or you have bad taste, lol.
Sorry you can’t find joy in things and have to personally insult other people’s opinions.
not an insult
don't insult me
My guy, I don't care that you're trying to preserve your class the way you want it.
bros, level 1 player. what should i do when the floor begins do shake? like wtf ... dungeon started to continuosly shake
It's perfectly understandable, I'm just pointing out you obviously have a vested interest in something nobody agrees with. Everyone has known for a very long time that resting is not a fun mechanic.
That means get out fast
The timer for the map is in the bottom right corner. The longer any match goes on most maps do some sort of damage to you.
Nice anecdotal evidence
do lads reprok in arena or is it one use for the whole game
thanks. I still havent found one extraction point ...rip
Chill dude
Watch ryansixdaysaweek on YouTube
ill thanks my dude
You’re the one calling people liars for an opinion you disagree with
why?
It's pretty common to just die repeatedly until you kinda learn what tiles have blues and such
No, I'm calling you a liar because you have a point of view that only makes sense in the light of viewing what I said as a nerf to your class. Was that not clear?
You don't have an opinion I disagree with. You are pretending that sitting down and resting for a minute in game is somehow rivetting gameplay.
I’m a liar for having a different point of view? Log off 
okay cleric having cooldowns is a terrible idea
you need to actually think about your cooldowns and how to use them
you really think having infinite HUGE heals and AOE spells is a good idea? lol
The campfire mechanic is great and adds a very cool feature missing from adventure games
It massively balances buff-ball, right away. Literally one person buffed at a time, likely.
And again, having 31.5 second cooldown on Sanctuary by default is... actually far better for balance than just having 2 uses that you can use back to back.
Dude is at the point in his argument where he just keeps repeating until someone pops in and agrees
do you know what buff ball is...?
Do you think clerics only buff one teammate at a time in buffball? Okay I'm seeing that I'm just talking with people who are not willing to address basic reality. See you.
Yes buff ball revolves around using all your buffs on one person, typically a barb, and let them destroy everything in their path lol
Not really, for sanctuary you have to be perfectly still and it heals ENEMIES too, I have never seen a cleric "spamming" it simply because it would counter-productive
why are you getting so defensive lol? were just having a normal convo about the game and youre calling people liars and saying they aren't addressing basic reality lmfao
The point applies to all their spells. CDs are massively more balanced than uses because nothing can be spammed.

CDs take away player agency in deciding when they want to use a heal or spell. If I want to spam three lesser heals I get punished by the fact I would only have one left. If there is a CD I can just cast lesser heal every single time it is up
So far spamming spells isn't a problem, and making everything cooldown-based would rob of identity the sorcerer.
The real problems come from other classes but I don't want to change the subject
Adding the same cooldown system as sorc for cleric would just massively gut its damage ability and unbelievably buff its supportive ability by having heals constantly up and infinitely available
also ☝️
agreed
The reason why cleric and wizard can deal good dmg is they can use their effective spells back to back while sorc has to cycle them
I strongly disagree, but mostly in the context of wizard. Zap and explosion can be rapidly spammed, and wizard in pvp is one of the most competitive classes specifically because of it.
Ah, so you keep dying to wizards and that is why you want the change. Makes sense now.
Anyway, I'm really not interested in this circle jerk any longer, though. Bye.
Competitive: yes, broken: no. Perhaps less explosions count then or less damage
insult others when wrong 😂 👍
lol you two have done nothing but insult me
ah, so you keep dying to wizards and that is why you want the change
Making them have the same cd system just makes it weird with how wizard and cleric will play. Tbh it will prob make their gameplay even more unfun since if you perma protect them in trios they are spamming very good spells with no way to stop it. Wizard has much better spells than sorc but sorc doesn’t need to rest for its spells
That’s how they’re different
Address what I said and stop baiting
you quoted one single message from the other guy?
which was after you already called him a liar like 3 times lol
Y'all like fishing?
He is lying. Or he's deeply stupid?
That’s an insult? I did address your point and was called a liar over and over. You either want to hear opinions or you only want people to agree with you, and you are the latter
And so are you if you're saying you like sitting down for a minute to recover spells as wizard.
Is that seriously your position?
As well?
zen is just a victim
Another insult. Keep them coming
Seems cool
lol were straw manning now
Saying someone is lying is not an insult. But you are a troll, and that is.
he never said that his whole point is he likes sitting down for a minute
it was one of his points yes, but he as well as everyone else addressed your points and gave their input
He literally said that at one point, so either you didn't see it, or you're trying to deflect. Do you agree with the point or not?
I enjoy the camping. I don’t just sit down with no campfire
he made multiple points, that wasn't his only point
idk how thats deflection either, do you even know what that means?
Lets keep it civilized in here
Mr. Warden ive been civil the whole time
You just don't want the nerf hammer. When in reality wizard would need a buff to spells for this to work.
but if its worth anything, i dont even play wizard lol
I hate this mechanic but that’s why I don’t play those classes or I use meditation
Just in general mr. Burger
is this game dying?