#suggestion-discussion

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nova bronze
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are you dull? look at the rest of the playerbase. you're a problem guy XD tf

barren grove
jolly leaf
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That

barren grove
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i also hate what they did to casters and this new love for sorcerer like its the new barb/ druid

nova bronze
barren grove
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i did suggest this 2 days ago and i bet it would make the game better.

jolly leaf
nova bronze
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I give the game 3 months, tops. that's being generous. 3 months before it DIES and they need to get the rakes to pile up the remaining players and emberressingly try to hold on to them. it's gonna be sad ash.

barren grove
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i bet a new gamemode for HR where each hit could be fatal would feel more hardcore. check my suggestion above

tropic cypress
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I am currently an Epic Games player, I had a character in my blacksmith account.
when I migrate my epic games account to blacksmith, does my old character merge with my epic games account?

slow arch
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bring back b hop and remove the storm

coral heron
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not the expected HR changes, but i call em a W @keen onyx good change good sir!

granite knot
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Rare SDF W, now bring back dungeon recovery

elfin onyx
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how does this hold up from last year?

hidden hemlock
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Don't get me wrong, I think the AP change is a net positive for the game, but I think an interesting take would be that your rank rewards were based on your highest rank that season

hidden hemlock
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bear traps should 1 tap druid in bear form

hollow estuary
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yes

icy knot
granite knot
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I'll give you something better, just delete druid. Bam, game is instantly improved.

main drum
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rogue zweihander

languid thorn
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@keen onyx stop for the love of god trying to see this game as RANKED GAME IS NOT IT WILL NEVER BE!
focuse on CONTENT, QUESTING, PVE, and GOOD REASON TO PVP FOT THE LOVE OF GOD
that s why ppl go back to tarkov always
due to a combination of all of the above

slender parcel
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i dont wanna redownload how do i verify on blacksmith?
i have latest steam files
which i use to launch on epic

languid thorn
slender parcel
latent plume
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Does anyone know if arena is done now ?

smoky coral
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what does sdf stand for

shy tide
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sdf should maybe for once in his career listen to dark and darker community instead of letting the game die he should also probably tell players exactly how to migrate to blacksmith instead of letting the community figure it out players are being lost by the second

slow arch
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bringt back b hopp and remove the storm

dusk gull
# shy tide sdf should maybe for once in his career listen to dark and darker community inst...

The dev teams always hears out what the community says and they’ve been pretty transparent, more so than any other dev teams I’ve seen. You don’t like it? Leave your input and come back in a week, no big deal.

It’s pretty normal for a wipe game to lose players towards end of wipe as content dries up, hope to see arena open with uniques or open to not having minted items. The normal and HR game modes feel meh right now. Normals fog isn’t bad but bossing feels like a complete waste of time like goblin caves not being able to find both bosses and the vault room, there just isn’t enough time in the game maybe make the raid longer. HR is door and doorer and third and thirder whoever waits around and catches the other team at a massive disadvantage. Would be interesting to see doors completely removed and see how gameplay is. Current meta of whoever can rotate faster or block a single person from a team to get a pick is pretty corny something you don’t see in arena which is nice. Loots tables in HR are pretty bad, why are greens and white loot even spawning on top level especially this late into wipe, I can go all three levels hit every pile on every level and still not be tempted to pick up not a single piece of weapon or armor because it’s not up to par with crafted gear. Make loot great again in HR

waxen copper
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make self-cast duration different than other cast. so that wizard can have haste and ignite be useful for themselves more.

dusk gull
shy tide
gilded agate
waxen copper
lilac garden
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give rogue anti-crow perk so I can run around like batman

tacit otter
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Maybe dwarves have a lower jump.

slow arch
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bring back b hop and remove storm

tacit otter
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B hop only if there is a stamina bar and jumping drains it quickly

lime pilot
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Bhop should exist, anyone that says otherwise is mad cause bad

prisma timber
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i like that bhop is gone but also the amount of change to casters was way too much

icy knot
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Bring back evil eye

slow arch
halcyon juniper
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Why is it for the first time casters were at least tolerable, we remove the only counter they have to barb/anything that can just W and win by battle of attrition?

dusky ingot
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realistically fighter should not be able to use the longsword with plate armor, as it is typically a dueling weapon and not a knightly weapon
the heavy plate armor would make manipulating the motions of the longsword far too cumbersome to be viable

ashen canyon
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There’s realism and then there is video game logic, one wins out while the other is ignored

dusky ingot
ashen canyon
vapid marsh
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I think lightning mastery should either be able to scale with dmg with like .25-.5 scaling or have a much shorter cooldown like .25 seconds instead of 3

rugged basalt
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remove 224 lobbies from HR, put it in norms

prisma shadow
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Can we get a wooden mallet that makes a cartoony bonk sound when you hit their heads

cinder raven
valid loom
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please give back the mining nodes in goblin caves maze b, it made that module worth going to for once and put more nodes in the other mining area as well. Going looking for a resource only to find one or 0 nodes of it and resetting over and over is bad design and having another objective besides bossing makes randomized dungeon bearable

waxen oasis
languid thorn
meager jasper
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The devs have gotten stuck in a very late game mindset where obviously the only things of value on most maps are bosses and that is just a really boring way to design a dungeon.

hollow flame
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actually look at the Ban/Reports that we've been submitting?

halcyon juniper
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Day 7 of reiterating that Wizard is nigh unplayable in almost every way. Do Devs not playtest this shit at all?
How do you warrant letting every class be faster, and do more damage than the iconic glass cannon

icy knot
slow arch
nova bronze
tough bloom
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Don't think that's how you spell community famalam, steam scams are prevalent with typos and just seems sus

meager jasper
shy tide
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make it so that you load into lobbies with players instead of going into a fresh game with no one inside

icy knot
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Give barbarian ability to throw enemies

frank whale
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This game feels terrible now without bhopping, on all classes

lilac garden
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remove crows 🙏🏻

halcyon juniper
# slow arch bingo i tryede playing abit was terrible the remoival to b hop is criminal

The fact that Wizard was only playable because of an unintended movement mechanic is the real issue...
And to further add insult to injury, the absolute joke of a development team cuts damage from all casters. As if it wasn't bad enough that now we don't do enough damage to stop a barbarian, for example, before it reaches us. We also have ZERO counterplay to maneuver away and re-engage in more favorable terms.
They are lucky that no studio has released something even close to similar as far as this genre goes, because this is just theft at this point.
I want my Money back IronMace.

slow arch
dull ruin
waxen oasis
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add a "favorite" or "randomize" button in customize
like u can set up the muitiple campfire skin, rest animation , items skin
and it will automatically choose 1 after u joined the game

summer lantern
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Fix this karma system, no one should have a red name simply because of choosing a different playstyle. TKing is a completely different reason for having a red name

rustic kettle
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meager jasper
# halcyon juniper The fact that Wizard was only playable because of an unintended movement mechani...

I wouldn't hold your breath. They've been putting their fingers in their ears and completely ignoring people telling them almost nobody is okay with the sweeping changes to HR in the reverse, and nobody wants more false difficulty and grindiness added to the game. And that's always the greater issue over class balance.

They completely ignore feedback on class balance, legit for years at a time, because they've always fucked up something completely different at the same time in some major way. Wizard has always been the red-headed step-child of the classes, and nobody ever played, and it's always felt terrible compared to sorc. We were promised updates to wizard alongside sorc, and didn't get any. Hell we're still waiting on quivers.

icy knot
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No amount of time can give us high-quality patches as long as there is no balance team consisting of experienced players.

halcyon juniper
# meager jasper I wouldn't hold your breath. They've been putting their fingers in their ears an...

Oh believe me, I'm not wasting my time waiting for these fools to figure it out.
At this point I have resigned myself to venting in this chat if for nothing more than the gratification of seeing that other people feel the same.

I have well over 5200+ Hours at this time, and as I've already relayed, the only saving grace for IronMace is that no other game on the market has the attributes to scratch the DnD dungeon crawling itch.

The near sightedness, and complete lack of insight on making changes this late into a wipe that is ALREADY FUCKING KILLING THE GAME.....

It does not take a seasoned developer, or anyone with more than room temperature IQ , to see that they are willingly killing the game.

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For what reason you may ask...?
Your guess is as good as mine....
But I forget, we as the player base, do not actually matter. :^)

halcyon juniper
coral heron
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The gobo meech should still do recovery for self found gear in HR.

meager jasper
# halcyon juniper For what reason you may ask...? Your guess is as good as mine.... But I forget, ...

It's something you see with all kinds of devs, from the start of game development in general. Some of the most brutal early games in existence were made in a vacuum by devs who played it themselves, not realizing they were not good at understanding their own game's difficulty from their own perspective. This is somewhat like that. They're in a bubble, separate from the population that play the game.

coral heron
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They have managed to kill the player base with this hyper focous on pvp and hard-core experience. It's like they forgot the pve and dungeon crawling...

halcyon juniper
# meager jasper It's something you see with all kinds of devs, from the start of game developmen...

Absolutely, I work in DevOPs and often times work with those that use what I create because they are going to understand on a much more intimate level that which I do not.

What I can't fathom is what is so hard, about just simply having a handfull of people that play this game every.single.fucking.day just playtest things and give insight to how balancing changes affect Solo/Duo/Trios.

What is there to lose, when there is just so much to gain from a simple thing...?

halcyon juniper
hoary pike
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Iron mace should have a team of balance players- 1 or more that mains each class to at least test out changes before they are deployed, and to give feedback / suggestions

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Each should fight each of the others and figure out what feels and is bad about changes etc

coral heron
elfin onyx
coral heron
elfin onyx
stuck perch
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Here's a novel suggestion, fix buff ball in a way that doesn't remove the fun of playing it.

stuck perch
jolly leaf
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I've been reading what you're all talking about and I couldn't agree more and the sadest part is that there is suggestiob on this channel and on the website about everything.
For exemple, They definitely need to introduce a way for us to test thing before they're release, asking us what they need to work on before : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/591702/incentivize-using-the-test-server-by-rewarding-and-including-players
They need to work on the PvE/dungeon crawler part and make Point of interest around which people will gather to PvP : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem (i' the comment too) / https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/620767/improve-continuous-dungeon-instead-of-reimplementing-the-circle

Honestly it's not that much complicated. Let us test thing before they're released, ask us what we would like to see, listen to the feedback of tester, work on the PvE side and make it intersting enough to people to go there and PvP @halcyon juniper @coral heron

stuck perch
elfin onyx
# jolly leaf I've been reading what you're all talking about and I couldn't agree more and th...

Maybe if you kill the boss it lifts the fog for the whole map or maybe you need to open their loot room and flip a switch. This is referring to your continuous dungeon thread.

I will say if they were to give rewards for testing, don't make it for just time played i did "insider program: for "sea of thieves" and just had to sit for 1 hour, toughest part was getting up to move my guy to prevent kicking me from being afk

jolly leaf
# elfin onyx Maybe if you kill the boss it lifts the fog for the whole map or maybe you need ...

Yes why not for the map reveal, there is things to do to improve the FoW, it would have been better to test thing while FoW was only on one or two map instead of pushing it on every map in this rough state. Now people just hate it and brainlessly ask for it to be remove without seeing how cool it could be.

As for the test server I'm not even sure reward would be needed, if done like I said in the suggestions (people start lvl 20 on all class, all stash unlocked, with easy access to all type of gear) people would use it more. But surely if reward there is ,it shouldn't be only based on play time.

jolly leaf
# stuck perch Importantly for me, let us play viable support playstyles instead of nerfing tha...

Imo, everything related to balancing, buff and nerf is secondary compared to content and core mechanic/system. I'm pretty sure people wouldn't complain that much on such small detail as one skill of one class being too strong or too weak if the gameplay element (Point of interest on the map etc) and the system ( like FoW, random dungeon etc) in the game were better in the first place. People complain about balance because it's easy to see and seems easy to fix (while it's not always, it's a very complexe mess), with a more complet gameplay loop and a bit of testing most issues would be avoided

elfin onyx
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As the playerbase gets generally better more weapons will be found to be "op"

the hatchet was called mid until people realized it was parry proof and had minimal move speed.

The lantern shield was called useless compared to the buckler until people realized how much damage it could do with modifiers

Every weapon has its niche, just depends how big of small it is. I feel now once the new dungeons are kinked out we can get new content. Whether that be new modules or the water map to one day the monk❤️ 🙏

jolly leaf
elfin onyx
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Depends on how you see high roller. Do you want it to just be a copy of normals but with harder enemies. Better loot and different gear scores? Or a different thing altogether like now? It would make it easier if you could pick whether the zone is a thing or maybe even randomized maps like picking the group size.

Though I do remember hearing concern around having total freedom on this as It would cause players to swarm certain maps than others

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I just thought of something:

We slightly copy the previous map rotation in that every maybe 30 minutes or however long. A special event happens on a random map. Maybe it could be that forge idea you had. I also saw somewhere a suggestion of roaming enemies and I thought of a minotaur but it could also be a certain goblin that could possibly have alot of loot on him.

Either way it would encourage choosing different maps, after the water map im hoping for a pyramid room with focus on traps in rooms, maybe every room with the Egyptian gods as mini bosses or the main boss

jolly leaf
elfin onyx
jolly leaf
rustic glade
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Druid and barb needs nerf

stuck perch
rustic glade
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Yep, barb and druid needs nerf

stuck perch
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If they make all classes suck it's not going to be more fun than it is now.

rustic glade
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The things the druid can do are too many, it's very broken, the barbarian is played without brains or hands.

stuck perch
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That was the intent for druid, although he can't do all of those things well with the same build.

rustic glade
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You're telling me that a class that can jump from one map to another, transform into an animal that tanks and oneshots, and another that runs at 330 movement speed and hits like a truck, isn't broken? And if that weren't enough, it can fly across half the map and reset, healing its health completely with a spell.

fickle spire
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The last patch pushed sorcerer towards bare hand casting which is what sorcerer suppose to be except it still far from being a complete class .

1-- The new perks ''innate talent'' and ''Merged might '' add magic power instead of magic damage which doesn't provide any significant increase to damage .

2-- Book casting tier 1 and 2 spells still supersede the class skill expression of merging different combos especially with cooldown penalties of higher tier spells and MDB curve changes , no sorc player really likes book casting but it still adds very significant base damage .
3-- Many spells combines Air skills such frost breath or flame thrower etc .. don't actually benefit from air mastery and therefore have a very insignificant utility / damage .
4--Elemental fury perk is theoretically good only if we play with less than 25% hp which is practically very bad .
5-- Spell Merge should be a default Passive . There is no reason to lose a perk slot to actually benefit from the class skill expression .

I think fixing these issues might actually

blissful sand
rustic glade
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It's unfortunate that they defend the imbalance and the broken class preference, but hey, if the game dies it will also be the players' fault.

blissful sand
stuck perch
rustic glade
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I still don't see a disadvantage to using a druid, he has everything without losing anything, he heals, he has movement speed, now he shoots spells, he tanks and he has the ability to oneshot, does that sound balanced?

blissful sand
stuck perch
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Druid can't do that all at the same time. He's got to pick and choose whether he's going to gear up for fighting in cat form, chuck spells, or bear form. Even if he could. He can't tank in cat form and can't chase in bear form.

blissful sand
rustic glade
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So you forget about summons and how he can chase you around the room in panther form at full speed, then turn into a bear and hit you with a bomb?

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I don't know why they defend the indefensible, they seem like corrupt politicians, the druid is broken haha

blissful sand
stuck perch
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He's a lot easier to kill as a cat, especially if he geared himself up to fight as a bear. Also bear form can't fit in doors so you can mess with him, poke and retreat thorugh a door if he does that. if he's geared up as a cat, it's a bit more touchy but not impossible to beat.

rustic glade
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If he had a cooldown or something that prohibited him from spamming transformations like stupid, I would understand, but no, he has time to spam 4 and that is very annoying

stuck perch
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What you can't do vs a cat is keep running while he runs you down.

blissful sand
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bro saying "summons" like hes a necromancer

rustic glade
blissful sand
rustic glade
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Now, you guys respond as if the players are bad, the players come in, silence you or just wear you down and leave the fight

blissful sand
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bro think hes the main character spiting skill gap facts and not learning the game :/

rustic glade
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You're telling me that after that I have to chase him in panther form with 330 movespeed and have the guy transform into a rat and go through doors to heal himself as if nothing happened?

blissful sand
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tell me what class u play that u strugle this match vs him

stuck perch
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Hanging around here inbetween lobbies or while doing other stuff doesn't mean we're sitting here waiting to respond to you. It's also getting late and many people need to get to bed.

rustic glade
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It's that no, you ask for the impossible, it's not a lack of skill, it's that you don't see the big picture.

blissful sand
rustic glade
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You're asking me as a fighter to use magic to reach him, can a fighter fly across half the map?

blissful sand
rustic glade
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Let me give my fighter the ability to break doors and chase him in rat form.

stuck perch
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If you're using a fighter, shoot him with a bow or crossbow if he's messing with you at a distance. Druid's distance game is pretty poor, even with druid's bolt.

blissful sand
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like fighter are one of the worts matchs for druid

rustic glade
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I just don't understand how you see something broken as a good thing, but you're the ones who will be left playing this game alone when he dies, I don't.

rustic glade
stuck perch
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There are many other things that are broken with the game that are far worse for the game than druid. At least druid is fun to play. I can't say the same about every class.

blissful sand
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Like i said before on general chat, people are so soft now days, big companyes make games for people that want be min maxed in 3 days, and they feel they good, so when they got a "hard" game best they do its perma cry over the game cause for some reason that i dont know they cant learn

rustic glade
blissful sand
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at this poing i think or its pure rage bait or ur really bad, and need to learn what a class can do and what ur own class strongs are

stuck perch
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No, because I still have fun playing druid against trash mobs and such, I can't say the same with a lot of other classes.

karmic sage
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What class does sdf play so we know that won’t ever get nerfed to the point that no one plays it?

stuck perch
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He's playing Fighter now.

rustic glade
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You can't treat everyone as bad or angry because their opinion doesn't match yours.

blissful sand
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like im a wizard main, and i got a shit tons of bad times vs panther form cause its a "caster killer" but i started play druid and learn what he can do

blissful sand
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its like say "why in elden ring this boss its so hard nerf him pls" and all u do its do the same pater over over and over instead learn how to beat it

rustic glade
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I just read that you know it's broken and it's your main, you don't want a nerf and that's understandable, but it needs it

blissful sand
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we went from ragebait to a 10yo excuses

icy knot
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Nerf panther Salute

stuck perch
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Just about everything that gets nerfed in this game gets nerfed in uncreative ways that just leaves the class feeling like shit.

rustic glade
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I hope the developers stop investing money in ugly maps and game modes and start hiring people for their balance team.

blissful sand
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still cant imagine u as main fighter crying on druid

stuck perch
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Throwing more money and people at the balance team isn't going to fix the problems in this game. You need someone who can think clearly, has solid priorities and a good vision for the game to do balance.

rustic glade
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It is a reality that SDF is not made for such important work.

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Instead of bringing something fresh and refreshing, updates bring content from the past and recycled content. Is it so hard for them to move forward?

icy knot
stuck perch
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They are recylcing content, take the last patch as proof.

blissful sand
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Yeah they need to get a better vision of how make this game go, balancing classes are not that hard, u can fix dmg, u can fix coldowns, u can fix toxic mechanics, but the problem dark have are the game in general, i feel like they make patches being so lost on what to do

stuck perch
blissful sand
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but i understand a bit sdf vision too, u have a bunch of people crying over classes every path just cause they are bad, instead they focus more on the game desing

rustic glade
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What I don't understand is who or what says to sdf: You do your job well, the game, although it has already lost 10,000 players, is doing very well.

That person is blatantly lying to you, this should be the first person fired on your team.

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If that guy spent 10 minutes a day reviewing the conversations here, he would improve his game more than making decisions with the "creative team" that I hope he has.

blissful sand
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They should bring a guy that changes almost everything anyways game its almost done, so why no just change everything in antoher direction, instead "micro patching things that are alredy mesed"

rustic glade
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The game is fine, the only bad thing is that person who gives ideas like: unnecessary and meaningless buffs to classes that obviously don't need them, bringing things from the past, not testing the limits of each class in advance and the new ones alike, not checking the mapping well before introducing it and putting in a super poorly made arena without its own map

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That person is very dangerous, he should be fired or removed from his important position.

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After a while with his creative ideas he works on another of my favorite games and he ruins it.

blissful sand
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Balancing classes in this game i think if prety diff everyone want hes character be the best, and the comunity of this game its ultra toxic about clases, the game idea its nice and and the style + some mechanics, but the player base right now + bad patches desing legit lisening 0 to people that have aactual nice ideaas on the suggestions

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per example u say druid its giga busted as a fighter, but me as wizard that alredy know how druid works i think druid has just a "mechanics" that made the class so much diff than others and yes play vs them are sometimes not funny like perma resets + door jumping, but its that really broken ? or just how the class its made, like i as wizard can oneshota panther with a fireball on the head, but if he comes close he 2 taps + silence me so who its the broken there

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shit pathces + player base that cant see more than what they want to see kill the game

next juniper
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add secpter to the game so we can main hand cast magic with a shield especially since mpb got nuked if you arent a sorc

night venture
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@dawn grotto can we please change the color and boarder of Demigod. it looks way to similar to apprentice and neophyte. remove the boarder and icon entirely and make it a Golden kings crown with the outer color of the icon a glowing gold with some sparkly jewels and the inner part of it a deep red

high umbra
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can we remove the ability to queue up as the same class in arena and HR, fighting double wizard is cancer.

dusty abyss
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Have seen ghost king twice since rework. Kinda ruins the pve when I can’t even find the boss except for luck.

icy knot
ripe turtle
leaden galleon
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nerf lantern shielf i have 150hp 25% pdr and got 2 shot and it doesnt make any sense that that should even exist

blissful crane
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Please god, REMOVE FOG OF WAR from non HR Maps

blissful crane
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This FOG on non HR maps is a huge turn off @sdf
Please remove FOG from non HR Maps.

dusty abyss
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@icy knot how is it a fixed map pool?

slow arch
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BRIng back b hop

stuck perch
icy knot
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- AP Renewal: The entry fee is now set to 0, and AP can be earned even if you fail to escape the dungeon.

This change allows me to play HR without caring about AP, but I think it's quick fix rather than smart one.

granite knot
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What would be the smart fix?

icy knot
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What would you suggest for next season?

granite knot
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Not have AP system at all

icy knot
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I mean if anyone can get to demigod now. What's the point of AP system.

stuck perch
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Why are people asking to have fog of war removed? It's the best system they've added to the game in a long time. Well, maybe not for those who want to sell gold, and those who want an easy and streamlined version of the game.

icy knot
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Continues dungeon system playerbase: "Omg can't do boss too many players"

Fog of war playerbase: "Omg can't find a boss what is this game?!"
KEKW

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How about making 5x5 map. 25 boss rooms, enough bosses for everyone. This will solve the issue this

ashen canyon
# stuck perch Why are people asking to have fog of war removed? It's the best system they've a...

It’s not so much (for me at least) that the fog is the problem. It’s the fact that you can’t find the boss, do it, find the second boss, do it, then find the treasure room after with only 15 minutes. Fog isn’t a bad thing, fog that the only way to reveal is to go there is. Add another 5-10 minutes to the run? No one would bicker about it I believe. But not being able to go in and get bosses UNLESS that’s all you do, no one finds you, and no one diverts you at all. That’s a problem in my eyes.

uncut sedge
stuck perch
stuck perch
teal plinth
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i like fog, and i like RNG in the dungeon, but together at the same time is my problem

granite knot
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Maybe if they added a way to deal with the fog, like revealing a boss room, that would be great

ashen canyon
granite knot
stuck perch
# ashen canyon Also the ring, in HR. I dislike that it isn’t centered on boss room every map. ...

Remove the swarm entirely, such a mechanic shouldn't exist in a game that's not a Battle Royal. Dark and Darker is not a Battle royal game, as BR games can only have 1 victor. A BR game doesn't end until there's only a single team left, and it doesn't allow early escapes. On the other hand an extraction looter has multiple escapes and multiple teams can succeed regardless of whether others succeed or fail.

ashen canyon
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The swarm doesn’t bother me so much, besides limiting where you can go. But meh on that part. The boss being on the far left top, and you spawning on the bottom right, it’s shitty. You can’t go kill the boss because you have to get through everything n along the way including the players, then when you do get there the circle is already closing itself away from the boss. Thats where my gripe is.

@stuck perch

teal plinth
uncut sedge
stuck perch
# uncut sedge additional PVE difficulty, sure... i dont think the masses played dark and darke...

I think the game was at it's best when I was afraid of attracting attention from people that were better geared than me. You can only really get that in the top bracket right now. It's also not something tied to the swarm. PvE, especially hard PvE forced you to make noise which could attract unwanted attention, doubly so for the bard. Opening the top bracket to people with any level of gear, might return that but I would rather have the Fog of War mechanic, not the swarm mechanic for such a mode.

slow arch
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bring back b hop or give wiz some movement ability so you can play the game again wtf

storm bough
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the rangers field ration should be rechargable with a campfire. if thats too fast i wouldnt mind a foraging mini game to find ingredients that then turn into ration charges when camping

stuck perch
stuck perch
storm bough
gleaming cedar
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Hunt Show Down type of clue system to help funnel players toward the bosses? Also can the soul hearts have a small particle effect towards the nearest revive?

stuck perch
merry birch
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Just want it to be known that druid really needs a nerf, the scaling of true damage and agi on panther literally makes it impossible to do anything but hope you can out damage him with melee tanks, and even then its a tossup depending on their health and how many hits they got. Their reset time is ridiculously fast and they remain the best all around class in terms of movement, support, and survivability. Pls pls pls nerf them and or implement a perk for classes to cancel shapeshift to make a viable counter.

gleaming cedar
# stuck perch Why would you want to funnel additional players towards bosses? Having 2 to 3 te...

In GC for this example: With random modules it is difficult to find, then kill both bosses. Unless you get lucky and find the 2 boss rooms and the new loot module all close to gather. Boss hunters and PvP hunters would be running through every module looking for the fastest path to these specific modules. This puts the questing or less experienced in an increased chance of being found by an experienced player. What Hunt does well is creating game play loops that are semi-independent from each other. The guy that is questing has an opportunity to “move out of the way” by staying away from zones that are cleared. Then there are those that are bossing, part of the boss fight is defense, so counters are fair. And there are the PvP hunters who can also follow the boss trail. These systems all interact in ways that minimize the clash between players with different objectives.

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PvP is spread out by each clue as it draws players there first or fights are heard by the PvP hunters and get drawn away from the boss. I think it balances out more than the current RNG system.

gleaming cedar
icy knot
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Improve the game experience for new players

Why is Second Wind granted to a newly created fighter character?
A new player will likely waste it, not understanding its purpose or that it can't be used again.

slender parcel
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Remove fog of war from squire lobbies so people can actually focus on learning bosses.
If they need to.
Keep the fog of war in 124 gs if u like

slow arch
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btring back b hop

storm bough
slender parcel
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Yes that would be better.
Like fog of war but boss room is marked.

slow imp
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I am so glad i Never migrated away from blacksmith. Took a few weeks off and just got back up to speed witt the announcements tab. LOL the devs are plagued with lawsuits.

compact pilot
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D.E.A.D G.A.M.E

sly sigil
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Revert to patch 79. Came back after a year to play, was really happy with how the game felt, told 3 friends who used to play about it. They came back. Then patch 80, nobody wants to play anymore.

slender parcel
slow arch
jolly leaf
elfin onyx
jolly leaf
wintry pier
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i just got expelled for the dungeon with a critical message, someone the same? got to reset the game

shy tree
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Hey, after I migrated from epic games to blacksmith I keep getting into the rookie lobby. I want to play -25 but I dont want to destroy new players all day long. Are some of you having the same issues ?

slow arch
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bring back b hop

tawny hound
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(Rogue)

rustic glade
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Nerf druid 😌

icy knot
pliant crown
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make rangers have specific poisons to use on their arrows. so like a spell wheel to select poisons that have various effects.(slow, dmg over time, weak, etc.) it would overhaul ranger in a very balanced way

ashen canyon
hollow estuary
patent ferry
stuck perch
eager junco
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The goal of any game should be to have fun. Running frantically through HR to stay inside the circle without any time to loot just makes it not fun. I dont care about AP. I want to adventure around and explore. The circle ruins that experience. It makes it not even fun nor worth wasting the gold on a kit that could be lost due to poor location of the circle. Make HR fun and remove that dang circle

stuck perch
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Fog of war is fun, swarm is not.

hollow flame
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NO SAME CLASS IN ARENA

prisma timber
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yeah triple warlock isnt fun to arena against lol

spark sonnet
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make boss mobs 100 hp less in solos, if i cant full combo 1 archer mob in full 224 min max your game is broken. Make it happen SDF

icy knot
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Eldritch Shield needs a sound indicator to notify the player when its passive (dark magic damage bonus) activates.

nocturne pond
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sucks you cant just solely boss farm anymore without rng aspects getting in your way but it is a looter extraction. maybe having other high risk high reward locations in the dungeon you can do instead of the boss would be a good way to support this change because as of now the only focal point of the high roller maps and the only goal pve wise on them is bosses

winter idol
deep heart
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give me back the old inferno this one feels lifeless and gimmicky with the spawns

icy knot
winter idol
# icy knot "sacrifice the soul hearts of slain players to unlock a treasure room" good new ...

thx^^ i always felt like the coolest thing about dad was that you can basically do whatever you want in the dungeons. a little bit like a sandbox. that is the perfect setup for a dungeon crawler. but as of right now there is not really much to do with this freedom. there are basically quests and bosses as activities. and pvp hunting, which is fun, but i would not consider it an implemented activity. if bosses arnt for you there is not much to look forward to. creating more points of interest similar to bossrooms that cater to different audiances should be the malin focus of new content imo. Devs should ask themselfs: What do people like to do, and how could we structurise that and funnel people with the same interest into specific places to create interaction.

Imo new maps and new classes are not bad content wise, but what we really need are more things to do in the game. classes and maps are interesting for a while, but then they become just another place where you run around not knowing what to do, just another set of abilities and perks you run around with, not knowing what to do. we need more things to do. things that motivate us round after round after round to go in again. we need a game loop.

jolly leaf
jolly leaf
# winter idol thx^^ i always felt like the coolest thing about dad was that you can basically ...

That's exactly what I've been saying for month now. New map and class are indeed new content but without new things to do ine the dungeon you're just doing the same 3 thing in a different place with new skill. They need to focus on improving the gameplay loop, add new thing to do , chill thing with medium reward (like mining is, could be fishing or something like that) and hard module with great reward, Utility spot on the map (could be the return of Expressman etc)

There is good idea here (in the comment too) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

worn horizon
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Add an option to remove the reticle (crosshair) so that u can use ur own for example crosshair x.

civic shard
winter idol
civic shard
slow arch
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bring back b hop

gusty cosmos
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Make Spell Merging innate to Sorcerer’s base kit instead of requiring a perk for it.

hollow estuary
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can we get true damage removed? only the 512th time anyone has asked this

winter idol
# civic shard I mean what else would you want then? That's all the core mmo gameplay loops rig...

well just spitballing:

  • (for pvp) an arena type module, where you can sacrifice the soulhearts of slain enemies to open an treasure vault
  • (for explorers) a treasure hoard that is hidden somewhere on the map and doesnt require you to slay a boss but is instead guarded by a door that you need a number of specific jewels to open. those juwels spawn randomly on the map and if you equip them, they faintly hum if you are looking in the direction of the closest other keyjewel to you. Like soulhearts they autimatically disapear when you leave a dungeon.
  • (for social RP) some sort of random appearing raid boss or monster hoard on the map, requiring two teams to defeat with dedicated roles for each team, so that you cant kill them on your own or with just one team (random to prevent preteaming). When there is such an event in the lobby you hear wardrumms echoing through the dungeon, getting louder the closer you get to the boss/hoard. They could even roam around the map, creating even more chaos and maybe even some sort of teamplay between players that where in the middle of a fight. If you defeat the boss/hoard, it also drops a treasure hoard, which leaves you with the question if you want to honor your allies or betray them and take there share for yourself.
  • clear indicators on the map that point you to those points of interest, to let you navigate through the fog of war naturally (this can be either map pieces in skelly corpses, statues pointing in the right direction, shrines that reviel certain poi's on the map, ...)

TLRD: create points of interest for different playertypes, with clear ways to find them on the map. All of them should have the same reward as the bosses, a treasure hoard.

elfin onyx
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Now that fog of war and random rooms is in normals here's what i think would be useful:

**hints **or **trails **to the boss room:

ghost king: spectral smoke on the floor that gets thicker the closer you get to his room
Spectral Knight: chants of cheers from his time as the kings personal champion, getting louder as you get closer to his room
Warlord: chants of battles/war, getting louder as you get closer to his room
Lich: sounds of alchemy and positions being made as you get closer to his room

winter idol
elfin onyx
elfin onyx
jolly leaf
winter idol
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yeah 1000l is rough xD

elfin onyx
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ive got it written out except for cyclops, any ideas for what his hint/trail/any lead to his room would be

jolly leaf
elfin onyx
icy knot
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bro drops his panties

elfin onyx
icy knot
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Make Cyclops pants wearable.
Add animation to smell them

steep frigate
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longsword needs a buff throwing a drum at someone does more damage

elfin onyx
vestal cloud
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nerf ranger for real

winter idol
vestal cloud
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can we fix aggro in this stupid game why when someone pulls all the mobs they aggro off them at some point then targert the nearest p[erson???? how does that make sense? how many times have you died cause a mob de aggroed a person you where chasing for no reason then its on you and you die like sop dumb

nocturne pond
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as streamers and other people have been requesting alot lately, a few updates ago you guys fixed the economy and gave a new system for us to spend gold on that isnt making it circulate back into the economy, effectively fixing the insane prices on some gear. but with this new update, bossing is super rng, and almost nobody is really running anything in hr anymore, making named items among other things extremely scarce and valuable again which isnt all bad, but its going to ruin the prices of items in the long run again and make things exactly like they were before you guys changed anything. this could be fixed simply by adding the insurance system to goblin merchant like everyone is requesting. make it cost 1k, 2k gold, or maybe depending on the rarity of your items or gearscore. you pay and if you end up dying from pve or something stupid, and can recover your kit. old gob merchant was like 250 gold to buy back a 500 gear score kit. instead make people pay before entering the dungeon, and make it ALOT. otherwise no one runs anything worth it anymore in hr. first of all you made it super hardcore, which some people were actually digging including me (besides the rng bossing) but now after playing for a few days, ive not seen a single named being run, all kits are barely hitting gear score requirement, alot of people arent even going in with rings. at this point normals is the game, and highroller is the pve server sea of thieves told us we would never get lmao. im not hating though i play every day and will continue to do so but yeah state of the game is not looking very great right now (in my opinion)

jolly leaf
# nocturne pond as streamers and other people have been requesting alot lately, a few updates ag...

I think most people could agree with that right now. They wanted to make HR more hardcore, why not? The issues is they did that by adding randomness instead of actual difficulty. Both the Swarm and completely removing the Recovery goblin just made the game more frustrating and random. And as we've seen in the past, when the game is too random or unfair, people are afraid to use gear or frustrated to lose it so they end up playing normal. It's what they said they wanted to achieve "HR is not for everyone", i'm cool with that, but then create a new place where we can use our gear without dying because we don't have any portal left or losing a good kit to a 5th party. I know it would split the playerbase even more but I think they should bring back the old HR and make the HR with randomized portal and Dark swarm it's own gamemode :
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/620001/make-the-hr-with-randomized-portal-and-dark-swarm-its-own-gamemode

vestal cloud
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we need gobbo back bro

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atleast some items not all of them for hr it just feels like a waste

gleaming cedar
# stuck perch Some pvp counters is fine while trying to boss, having the entire lobby show up ...

You assume everyone is attempting to boss or pvp, not everyone is doing that and this could allow for more game play loops to be added/flushed out. Creating opportunities for a variety of play styles, i would say, is a good thing. It provides more people a chance to play the game in a way that is fun to them. Additionally PvP would be spread out as people now have several opportunities to run into each other vs just one time at the boss, 2 technically with 2 bosses.

jolly leaf
lost panther
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I have a suggestion for Dark Offering.

If you have max stacks they should not all disappear at the same time, it should change to where you only lose one stack at a time. Also it needs to last twice as long as it’s almost never useable.

gleaming cedar
verbal tiger
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Make a quality of life update for left handed on sorcerer please !
When you have primary attack on right click, your spell on left wheel is cast with right click which is confusing.
Add a button/priority wheel for primary attack and the other one for secondary attack so we (left handed players) can play in a less confusing way !
thanks 🙂

jolly leaf
icy knot
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Make life drain be default build
Make torture mastery high risk, high reward(tweak it a bit...)

nocturne pond
# gleaming cedar Yes, I think they just went to far unless they plan on filling out the dungeon w...

exactly. we need more focal points in the dungeon. more high risk high reward pve aspects in the dungeon. maybe its crazy, but what if there were TWO boss rooms in the module? gives people more chances to actually get to the boss, gives people another focal point, of course i would rather have other focal points with different aspects in place. but a second boss room could be a quick easy change to counter the rng aspects they are trying to force for the meantime until they come up with interesting engaging other aspects for other rooms. like yeah a boss is great and all. but what if there was a room with so many mobs it was ridiculious, but at the end it also had a gold pile? theyve tried this before of course. but still. im giving the fact that there are other possibilities. maybe a puzzle room where if you solve it you can get a treasure, but if you fail the puzzle you just die. whatever the case, something other than just the map and the boss room is needed. right now people either skip through rooms to get to the boss, or skip through rooms to get to an extract. the game shouldnt be like that. every room should feel like its worth exploring, and the game just doesnt feel like that anymore. not even close.

sterile ginkgo
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Add TrueAudio Next support for people that have access to the technology.

naive thicket
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Low prio suggestion: make IC darker, like turn off half the lights literally

jolly leaf
# nocturne pond exactly. we need more focal points in the dungeon. more high risk high reward pv...

That's the priority for me imo. More point of interest, some easy (like the copper/iron module of GC, could the long awaited fishing module), some harder with great reward.
Even without creating actual new thing they could reintroduce thing they removed or improve thing they have. For example put back the Expressman as an NPC who spawn in a random "low interest" module, or add a new module called The Forge where you can bring gem and gear to do what the Goldsmith do but here you can get the max roll and it don't cost gold

That's the type of content the game lack :

mental jackal
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Fog of War OR Randomization. Not both. Both makes maps absolute cancer to go through. Half the game shouldn't be trying to find an exit and avoiding all content because you've gone through ten rooms with no progress to actually finding an out whatsoever.

icy knot
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I was saying before to create noob lobby. I was wrong, those 👶would just sit there 24/7.
They need a simple boring tutorial about how the game works that's all.

winter idol
winter idol
median mural
slow comet
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The english website still says that D.A.D. is free on Epic games...

jolly leaf
# mental jackal Fog of War OR Randomization. Not both. Both makes maps absolute cancer to go thr...

You'r right, but the issues isn't FoW or Randomization, those are good. The issues is that they've released those system too soon, without testing, without getting any feedback and they pushed it on every map instead of using random crypt as a testing ground to improve and complete Fow and Random dungeon. Some really cool thing could be done around it tho, take a look at this suggestion and at the first comment, those are really good idea on what could be done to improve FoW and random dungeon https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/620767/improve-continuous-dungeon-instead-of-reimplementing-the-circle
@median mural Have a look at the suggestion too, I like the idea of the Shrine to reveal part of the map

graceful ermine
stuck perch
jolly leaf
# stuck perch that's one way of doing it. Although we don't have a large enough playerbase for...

I know, that's the main issues. But I think it's the only good solution as SDF want the Swarm and probably won't remove it even tho most of the playerbase seem to dislike it. There is other solution, like returning to the map rotation system (and improve it) reducing the amount of different queue would allow to have more gamemode. That's an old suggestion but the idea is really good and I think it could work well, and allow to split HR and Swarm https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/576260/improvement-to-the-new-matchmaking-system-and-map-rotation (Don't mind the comment, they're not mine, it's not the follow up of the suggestion)

jolly leaf
languid thorn
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Idea to add back Expressman
The moment you enter red portal, you do not leave the server
You get placed in a special room with the expressman and a red door.
You are still on the same server and under the same timer

rustic glade
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Nerf barbs and druids c:

cobalt carbon
elfin onyx
wispy imp
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Ok hear me out class themed cosmetics for finding weird easter eggs in the game
Druid getting into a rat party spot gives a rat skin
Warlock phantomizes through some ghostly wall or object to get an occult hood skin
Sorc dashing to a weird spot to get a magic looking longsword skin
Barbarian breaking a comicly broken looking wall to get an axe skin would be a pretty cool engagement idea
Fighter taunts a mob into a lava pit for a fire themed heater shield
Ranger traps a weird mob that runs around and hides for a recurve skin
Cleric has to heal a statue or something for a morning star skin
Bard has to play music to a golem so he smashes a wall to get a pied piper flute

vapid marsh
winter idol
elfin harness
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GAME FCKEN BLOWS NOW JUST DRUID RUNNING RAMPANT EVERYWHERE. GG TIME TO DELETE GAME WAS FUN DD

vestal trench
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Pregnant goblin when

upbeat crescent
maiden cloak
empty mantle
jolly leaf
# empty mantle you are the tester

Yes? The issues is that they should have tested thing when the random map and FoW was only in Crypt, to make it cool and add nice feature to it instead of adding this rough version of it to every map making people hate it while it's two very good feature

dull knot
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With the crazy nerf to wizards. Can we atleast get unlimited spells if they’re gonna be doing less damage than a throwing knife?

granite knot
dull knot
median mural
signal narwhal
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Yall gonna jump me if I say Druid shapechange and Druid caster should be separate builds because no one man should have all that power?

rustic glade
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Nerf druid and barbs pls

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@dawn grotto

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2 classes that take the fun out of the game

weak marlin
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The 3rd wheel ranger in the back :D

shy tide
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Make is so you have to load into a lobby with players

thorn fractal
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you need to be able to jump over treant when it's being spawned, it's not the size of the door for about a full second, you need to be able to skill jump that nonsense. It's literally unfair that druids can lock you into a room and just spam bear swipes, there is no counter unless you're warlock or ... oh another garbage druid

wicked yacht
shy tide
wicked yacht
jolly leaf
icy knot
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Isn’t this upcoming tavern server a waste of time? Since players will need to spend real money, only 0.1% of the player base will likely to try it.

Shouldn't they focus on dungeon content? anguish

meager jasper
jolly leaf
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Unfortunately, as long as they'll keep doing the same mistake over and over and over again the playerbase will slowly reduce. They have to stop releasing big feature middle of season without testing anything (especially when no one asked for it or when they're reintroducing something they removed in the past). They need to use the freaking test server and improve it to incentivize people using :

hollow estuary
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yea, most games fall into the forgettable content trap, to make lasting content you can't just add 1 thing that you do once

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you have to make the gameplay loop better from the ground up

lilac garden
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give soul collector an additional 2.4% action speed for each soul collected

lilac garden
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wizard needs sleep spell

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Minor Illusion, Dancing Lights, Color Spray, Fog Cloud, Sleep, Blindness/Deafness, Levitate, Mirror Image, Web, Fear, Fly, Polymorph, Animate Objects, Dream

winter idol
lilac garden
icy knot
lilac garden
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make melee fun again +5 all was fun on warlock

icy knot
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Give warlock mele or Crystal ball perk

pearl jasper
jolly leaf
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Pls focus on improving the PvE in the dungeon instead of focusing on a PvE mode... There is room for every playstyle in the dungeon (if you don't add thing like the Swarm who force people to PvP). Just need a few point of interest and to improve the random dungeon and FoW mechanic (Also the first idea about needing more than 3 player to fight the Wyvern was good. Making people change there mindset about that could lead to great things

hollow estuary
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they need to change panther form to a domestic cat which can lower enemy stats when it meows

also add a wasp form which can sting people and give them poisoning for the rest of the game

bear form should have a 5% chance to be a black bear which gets scared and runs away

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chicken form should have a lay an egg ability which spawns a chick which attacks enemies for you, its weak but you can spawn a bunch of them

mental jackal
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Destroy kite meta. Remove movement speed buffs from stowing weapons; they are still on your body and are adding weight. Putting it on your back shouldn't magically make it weightless so you can run away faster. Potentially impose slowly stacking movement speed penalties based on exertion when fighting other players specifically so the PVE side still flows smoothly but versus other players you aren't allowed to go on a World Tour of running for 7 years and peeking doors with crossbow shots for 4 real life days before someone does something. Make leg shots reduce movement speed if you're worried about someone advancing as a ranger. Incentivize actually fighting someone and not minmaxing to be as fast as possible. Hell, cap movespeed while you're at it from 290 to 305 to normalize the curve and still make plate armor 'not the best' but also not the worst thing you can wear if you plan on fighting people just because of how much it slows you down. Ring Around The Dungeon is incredibly boring in a game that's mostly about melee combat.

winter idol
jolly leaf
# winter idol I heard it from onepeg and my first thought was: IM finally admits, that it is c...

Exactly. With a new gamemode they just split their ressources working on too much stuff and split the playerbase even more (with something who's actually going to split it a lot). While they could spend this time working on new PvE content for the dungeon and improving what we have. (And I was thinking the same of Arena, it's cool the result is nice, but I think it would have been smarter to use this dev time to improve the dungeon)

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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I disagree, GBMM is great, and it's the changes to HR that I hate. The game is not broadly improved by forcing sweats to only face each other. It's drastically reduced in quality tbh. If all I ever face is going to be bis death-squads cause I'm over a thousand hours, I'm just never playing this game again.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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GBMM allows for skill expression in the form of builds, with varying levels of risk involved in the cost of those builds, "SBMM" does not. And there's no way to implement it without just making it hour-based or extremely gameable.

meager jasper
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I'll say it again, they shouldn't be structurally changing the game at all except to go back to a functional HR. They should be working on new content for it.

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In many ways this is a serious problem with a lack of vision, despite SDF's memes. Retreading the same stupid shit as if your audience is a bunch of beta-testers who want their experience with the game thrown into chaos randomly. These kinds are not something you test. At all. They should be iterating, not rebuilding the wheel every season.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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I was moderately interested, but the more I think about it the more it's clear it'll be a dumb addition. As if they're looking for some magical structural fix for the core gameplay loop being the way it is instead of just improving the content within it.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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That and I don't think they're good at making systems like this. They captured lightning in a bottle once when they first made DaD, and most of the changes they've made since have been some sort of extremely bad double-edged sword. They have literally all the wrong instincts, and should literally just stop meddling with their own game.

They're better at combat systems and classes and shit like that in the first place, not high-concept design fixes for the entire extraction genre.

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It's baffling they think this stuff is important when, again, we still don't have quivers.

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I still remember them overhauling the inventory system so they could actually implement bags and then they just didn't do that either. Or when they said resourcefulness would impact carry capacity.

jolly leaf
# meager jasper That and I don't think they're good at making systems like this. They captured l...

At least if they keep not listening to the community on what would be good for the game, then they need to make us test and improve what they want to add to the game. FoW, Random Dungeon every big system like that are not bad, they're just new and rough, they need testing and feedback to be improved. But no they keep releasing them on live server and no test/listen to feedback. For exemple FoW and Random dungeon shouldn't have been pushed on every map, It should have been kept on Crypt only and improved by testing thing (Things like this https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/620767/improve-continuous-dungeon-instead-of-reimplementing-the-circle or whats in the comment)

meager jasper
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For me Randomized Dungeons and FoW are decent additions, and they were indeed promised for a long time. And continuous dungeons are a server-time fix not a player-facing fix. But they were right the first time when they totally removed the circle, it sucks. And both the goblin and expressman being gone in HR just makes it totally intolerable for the cost tbh. We've just completely backtracked to a time where HR wasn't "more hardcore". Now nobody wants to play it, at all unless they're in some ridiculous budget kit that means nothing if it gets lost. I certainly don't.

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While we're at it the total ban on friendly interactions is not something I ever condoned.

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Way to completely destroy anything but the sweatiest instant-kill-on-sight behaviour. Instead of just... moderating the bloody trade chat so you don't let bots spam links to chinese sites constantly.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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All propped up by pvp elitists who think their game mode should only be the purest combat experience. It's incredibly cringe.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
jolly leaf
meager jasper
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They cried about it because the way it was made no sense, which is totally fair. But in principle a multiple-team fight is a great idea.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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Big part of the problem back then was just not having multiple teams in the abyss reliably too. Not really as much of an issue with continuous.

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That's definitely something I would like to see them take a crack at again. But I feel that way about a lot of things I feel have just been neglected. We'll see.

winter idol
winter idol
# meager jasper I disagree, GBMM is great, and it's the changes to HR that I hate. The game is n...

I completely agree with the two of you! I just mentioned sbmmr because sdf himself brought up that he wants to have different modes for different experience levels. Personally I always thought highly about sbmmr, because I played a lot of hunt showdown before and the mmr there works extremely well. And i still think it would be a much better fit for dad than gbmmr if executed correctly. But I came to realize that most people havent experienced or can't even image a functioning sbmmr. People that argue against it often have ideas or experiences with sbmmr that are abysmal indeed. Like your comment. A matchmaking purely based on gametime would be unplayable indeed. And let's be real: IM would not execute it correctly. They would mess up big time and probably revert back to ap based matchmaking after two weeks 🤣

At the end of the day it's like you guys already said: we need more exciting and motivating content. Everything else is wasted dev time at this point. With the recent changes (short of 80) they brought the game to a very solid point. It's like we have a decent canvas now, but it is blank. We need meaningfully things to do.

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Changing the format of this canvas or it's structure und the paints or the brushes means absolutely nothing aslong as it's blank

meager jasper
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Agreed. Marauders, for instance, is a game I have qualms with. It's got no matchmaking, and it's become all sweats all the time.

But when I go to a marauders map, there's so much to do in any given area with so much more complexity. And the game automatically generates random quests for you to do on that map based on what's there, too.

A lot of the modules in DaD are interchangeable filler between very few real points of interest like bosses and piles. The mining has all but been removed for no good reason, imo. There's no specificity for the types of valuable loot you might find except with bosses. We can't even craft white protections or anything like that at a decent rate. The crafting in marauders, including its quest system, are absolutely top notch compared to DaD. At best we also have dogs and spiders for their specific drops. But that still leaves, what 80% of rooms being filled with skeletons, or goblins that are essentially just wasting your time?

dreamy vale
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I feel like my only problem right now is that after I hit Demi and get all my quests done I get bored of the game and nothing brings me back until wipe.

meager jasper
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Froststone and gold should be just around. And there should be craftables that rely on basic things from common monsters and not just stuff like troll pelts

dreamy vale
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This game has infinite potential, just gotta be patient

meager jasper
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I was absolutely done with this game before druid and the steam release. Then druid released and I was back. Same for sorc. Long string of bad patches, then a good new class to sink my teeth into. Developing the classes (rather than just nerfing them repeatedly) to have more options and playstyles is something that always brings me back.

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Class balance too, is something I think they should back off on. I get there's certainly strong classes, especially in specific metas when you get down to 3v3s vs solo. But I don't care about that. It doesn't meaningfully improve the experience for anyone to have their classes repeatedly kicked in the teeth unless they're doing something seriously disruptive like back when Rogue was oppressively landmining every match.

People need to get gud or otherwise accept that they have weaknesses because of what they're playing, and that's that. There should be very few class balance changes unless something really bad is going on.

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The game is asymetrical and trying to fix that is inherently a really bad idea. You just end up with formless, nothing-classes, with no specialness or 'fantasy' to them.

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I really like both druid and sorc. They do exactly what I want them to do, and slowly over time I'm expecting them to just be eroded because people cry about how a panther killed them and they didn't understand what they did wrong, like that one guy who absolutely ree'd because he shot a panther in the foot instead of the head and didn't realize it, even on the replay, and just thought panther was op.

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Same guy - who I'll leave nameless - made a whole video about how every class was OP, not realizing the inherent stupidity of that take. People just get mad and then blame the game design.

dreamy vale
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I am shit at any caster class but ive started getting decent with warlock (hoping that helps me with other casters sooner or later) I hate the radial menus. if I could key them to my numpad or something id have a way better time. but yeah I get what you mean. I remember S2 Rogue was unplayable and I had stopped playing at that point. coming back when I did Rogue felt the best it ever did. but yeah every class has a strength and weakness and you mix in your playstyle to make it even more chaotic.

hollow estuary
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i can imagine everyone having 100% ms max from armor, and only speed boost abilities can get you over that

hollow estuary
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its funny though that this problem might be gone because panther now has a head hitbox, so you can actually hit headshots

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otherwise though, you cant be defending druid, where they have to click their mouse a few times for the other person to die, and if they are low, they can go rat and escape

mental jackal
winter idol
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If you want to give it a upvote xD

jolly leaf
# winter idol If you want to give it a upvote xD

It's so sad they don't talk more and use this website. Some really good suggestion don't get more than 5 upvote because most people don't even know it's a thing or don't take it seriously because it look like they don't listen to anything anyway

hollow estuary
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people make good suggestions all the time but ironmace doesn't care

meager jasper
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It's mages and rangers that are vulnerable to them.

winter idol
meager jasper
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Didn't even know panther didn't have a complete head and yet panther was considered inviable before its most recent set of buffs that everyone cried about near the season's start and into the last wipe. Funny that. Panther is already extremely squishy and often had trouble performing because it doesn't scale as well as something like rogue. Personally I primarily play bear, but god am I tired of kiddies whining about panther.

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And make absolutely no mistake, Druid's panther-chicken jump is awful and needs to go. The class has problems. The rest though? Completely a skill issue. Get gud.

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Personally I also think there should be some clear indication of whether a druid is specced into bear or panther while they are in that form.

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ie if they've got more than 35 str or something they get a grizzly bear instead of a black bear, something like that. Maybe a polar bear or something if they're 45+. Maybe you could tie it to perks and make it so there's caps unless you take a specialization perk for the form that gives you something in return for being a bit more balanced, but gives you a better version of the form you want to main.

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That would remove a lot of the 'false uncertainty' of having to dance around a druid who turns into a bear lest you get smacked in the head for a lot, when they're actually a panther with no str. etc

jolly leaf
civic shard
ashen canyon
winter idol
# jolly leaf Really? I'm curious to know which one. I've made like 3 or 4 suggestion with mor...

Remember when dad went back on steam and was suddenly free to play. At first free accounts could only play white gear in norms. Alot of people complained about dad being pay to win (which wasn't true). Shortly after IM made colored gear playable again in norms as a reaction.

The first thing that I thought was: wait a sec. Squires don't have access to the marketplace. Legendaries have. They both queue up together. So in an effort to not seem paytowin, they actually made there game pay to win for a very short time. And that's what i wrote. They opened up the marketplace for squire accounts the next patch, actually explaining that they don't want legendary players to have an unfair advantage in normals. And that's it ^^

hollow estuary
winter idol
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Ok to say "I know for sure" they changed that cos of my suggestion might be a little to confident. I never got like a message or something. But I never heard or red anyone else comment on that matter. No one was complaining about it. It was just me.

ember swan
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let me suggest if having a PVE mode please make it so we can have progression. even if the game has to start a local server on our own pc that would be awesome!

barren grove
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make it so plate armor would take less damage to slash attacks but make so stabs apply a bleeding damage stack

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blunt weapons apply broken bone stacks meaning u attack slower and move slower until u use a bandage

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that would be a fun mechanic to track down people bleeding out like a hunting mechanism and would maybe make cleric more fun to play in solos and other slower classes ofc

elfin onyx
weary creek
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BRING BACK HR GOBLIN MERCHANT RECOVERY

bronze pulsar
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just had a thought, what if ceremonial staff named unique, did something along the lines of, when casting a heal, the target emits a blast that deals the same damage they were healed for in a somewhat small radius, so you could send in a barb and deal damage to everyone on him while also healing them, and even if youre alone it could also deal damage by healing yourself while someones on you, seems like a cool named unique that can be balanced pretty easily by how it scales, maybe it deals half the damage healed or something

upbeat dust
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Add a mechanic where either with scroll wheel or other method. allows the player to choose which attack in the attack chain thay use. once thay use it thay have to cycle the other moves in the chain. (halberd cant just spam thrust) please leave the reset at the end of atk chain in though. This would allow mixups without making it to complicated

jolly leaf
cyan willow
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I have a great suggestion, remove invis potions

heady lynx
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How about adding a guaranteed pickaxe spawn in the goblin caves and ruins double boss room?
This way people won't have to carry one in literally every single run just because this particular run might have a good double bossing map layout

civic shard
hollow estuary
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guys, PvE mode is already here
just go to ice cavern, <124 or <224 solos

barren grove
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please dont betray casters and reverse the magic power nerf. also please make wizard playable in solos. its my fav class and i dont want to be hindered

vast kettle
nocturne forge
granite knot
upper plinth
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Halloween in Goblin Caves with no lights. you either need a torch or lantern to navigate through the caves.

civic shard
barren grove
# civic shard How would you make wizard playable in solos? It already can/is a class that can ...

id maybe add some spells or perks that help it. maybe even increase the wizards will. a rogue can insta kill you. a ranger can destroy you, maybe add a perk that increases spell velocity. add more spells that have crowd control ( push back or pull in even ) . or even add a skill that turns your crystal sword into an enchanted one (similar to smite) and it would increase the range and deal true magic damage. ofc it would be a last option / it would be tweaked etc

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sorcs can defend themselves if they are good at longsword. staff mastery is VERY bad and idk why its even in the game in the first place

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they are the devs. im just saying wizard is drowning

civic shard
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I mean I think the issue is, is wizard is still really good in trios especially in arena. But I do agree maybe they could have a spell or a talent specifically made to deal extra dmg to PVE enemies only so that they'd have an easier time clearing content. Cause yeah if you compare them directly to sorc which has CC, longsword, a summon. It looks bad

barren grove
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its not just the clear. the class just suffers hard in solos. the kit isnt made for solos at all. i think wizard should have perks that affect crystal sword and evena skill for it similar to blow of corruption, imagine making a crystal sword feel like warlord sword for 5 seconds where each attack deals 10 true damage on swing. it wont affect wizard much in higher tiers but it would be a viable all rounder after u poke down someone. its only fair

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wizard has 80 hp on squire and the dexterity is horrible so its balanced in my opinion

gilded agate
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Add the dwarf race please

surreal robin
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fix portals spawns just had the portals spawn in a place we cant get to like you know in a pillar like tf

icy knot
upper plinth
mossy summit
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Close servers and pray for forgivness

hollow estuary
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who on the entire planet had a problem with breakthrough

icy knot
broken rapids
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"Fixed an issue where a hidden lever in the Ice Abyss Dividing Hill module could be interacted with without breaking the ice."
@keen onyx @dawn grotto

Make ICE breaking possible with Pickaxe this

  • interaction like with ore, extra sound etc

all classes should have access to golden chests.

unborn terrace
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you can break it with high impact weapons too.

broken rapids
brave nova
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Rework Ray of Darkness so that 1: It has more base damage, 2: Has more range and 3: A longer base casting time to balance it out. I'd much rather have a damage spell which is slow to cast but actually does something, as opposed to something that is relatively quick to cast, but does no damage at all and locks me out of combat while doing so. (Especially if the spell costs 4 spell memory, which is the same as a wizard's fireball and lightning strike for crying out loud)

hollow estuary
worldly jolt
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@keen onyx @dawn grotto Hello, please remove the chicken panther jump combo and fix the bear rotation hitbox problem
Maybe like felling axe when u miss theres a big penality as panther
thank you for nerfing lifebloom aura, but maybe harsh and unwanted
(nerf/rework phantomize a little too)
its just the mobility disengage problem, a trio could chase a druid/warlock playing defensive for a whole game for no success, which feels annoying. Also they can just come back to 3rd party to next team fight might be weird

nerf panther stats a little and make rapiers and daggers not compatible with plate armor

i think balance was great just (before or after?) patch 69, we just needed a little more weapon slow on hit duration time (pt 4 was nice too we just needed a wiz nerf back then)
Game is in a great direction, i cant wait for PvE mode, some of my IRL friends dont enjoy PvP but could enjoy a mode where you see other players and fight monsters toghether but your attacks dont damage them

I think swarm could be room by room and completly destroy that room when its over
Also maybe make mobs able to break a door down if the player damaged them and closed a door, it would fix a lot of AI rerouting

meager jasper
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As a druid, and a shapeshifter at that, i've always thought the chicken panther jump was always terrible and totally agree it needs to be removed. You should stop jump-momentum during a transformation or something.

I don't agree much with the lifebloom nerf. Or any of the spell nerfs. It feels like that was made with arena balance in mind which has next to nothing to do with how balance is anywhere else in the game.

PVE also sounds like at terrible idea to me. It's just a complete split of the playerbase and a band-aid on the issue of not providing enough basic reward for playing the game for people to play it in the intended mode. And a number of classes straight up will not function there. Wizard, I'm looking at you.

They should be focusing on improving the core experience not adding arbitrary new modes. And definitely not ones that dilute the core idea of the game like pve and arena, for that matter

worldly jolt
meager jasper
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I keep hearing people say certain nerfs are needed. And they literally never are. Lifebloom was just fine.

prisma shadow
meager jasper
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I'll say it again. The game is asymmetrical. You can't balance it that way based around removing the things that are powerful that a class has. You can only try and tweak the fun of it.

prisma shadow
meager jasper
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Lifebloom wasn't oppressive to deal with, that's total nonsense. Say that again while talking about landmine rogue and how fun and interactive that is.

worldly jolt
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eh idc about lifebloom if they remove chick-panther jump

meager jasper
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That's a real problem. You can't ever get away from a druid with that, and most maps favour them very strongly. Some they can just fly right over.

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One is anti-fun to everyone around it, the other is just a class being strong at what it does.

worldly jolt
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agreed

prisma shadow
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I'm no game dev, so idk how well these will translate in game (or if a technical issue prevents these), but I've got ideas on how to fix panther chicken jumping, and maybe druid transforms being annoying in general;

  1. Transforming kills all momentum and makes you fall straight down. Easy fix but can really mess up fights.
  2. Chickens can only continuously jump if they initially jumped as a chicken. So if you go chicken midair, it'll act as if you used all your jumps already.
  3. Cant transform mid air. This'll also kill the rat/door trick that people hate.
worldly jolt
meager jasper
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I don't want rat jumping removed unless they re-buff rat to be totally silent.

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Right now rat is a utility for getting through doors, it doesn't actually have very much escape potential. And because they decided it should squeak constantly it's not a stealth utility. The meta is filled with aoe and dots

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Rat jumping is also legit a skillful thing to pull off under pressure and I can respect that. And it's less cancerous than using the ability to kill etc.

worldly jolt
meager jasper
worldly jolt
meager jasper
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So it's not good to transform into it close unlesss you're fully panic mode

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You still have to get out of mika's range

worldly jolt
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i think if u go rat form and stay in range it will cancel mika vista

prisma shadow
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I heard people dislike fighting rat jumping because they can engage in a fight, go rat through a door and run, heal up, then come back and fight again, and repeat until they run out of heal supplies.
I dont enage much in PVP (I normally lose most fights when I do), so ive never encountered it.

meager jasper
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Getting away from mika is easier with a panther jump. Panther is generally faster than rat including the jump

worldly jolt
worldly jolt
meager jasper
worldly jolt
meager jasper
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It was really funny being able to ambush people by hiding behind boxes as a rat and then suddenly turning into a bear in peoples faces... I want those days back, I'd take that over door-jumping and constant attrition.

prisma shadow
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Would it be better if the door holes prevented rats from going through but still allowed arrows?
Assuming rat form got some other use

worldly jolt
worldly jolt
meager jasper
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Panther-jumping is still the more pressing issue. A class being allowed to attrition you does suck. I don't like it when warlocks do it, but it's part of the core gameplay right now, and some big changes to that class too would be needed too if the devs decided they didn't want that in the game.

worldly jolt
meager jasper
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Rat is less of a total annoyance than invisible rogues too, because you can still see them if they're visible. Rogues just get magic. I was sad when they first removed it.

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They actually have to choose a good hiding spot etc and can't just appear on top of you. And they need space to transform into something next to you too.

prisma shadow
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They can be under your feet instead

meager jasper
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Dangerous place for a lil rat to be.

rustic glade
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Next update nerfs Panther, bear and rat forms. Please irontards

halcyon crescent
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cleric and wizard buffs are utterly useless in solo

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and barely worth the effort in duo/trio

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you can't even use bless for the bonus knowledge to cast resurrection because it doesn't last long enough to channel the spell

lilac garden
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FIX THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE LOBBY

nova basin
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they should really implement the ability to trade out rewards for others, then they still would be exclusive for the ogs and give a chance for new people to access old stuff. i hate working hard just for them to release some sub par rewards when i could STILL work hard and trade it out. Enough of this fomo, its completely unnecessary and gatekeeps content for no reason. AND GET RID OF THE BLUESTONE SHARD LIMIT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD @keen onyx @dawn grotto

fluid hare
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Game keeps crashing with "abnormal" files, tried just about everything from verifying file to wiping dnd from the drive completely empting recycle bin and reinstalling . still happens

granite sapphire
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I fucking love the season rewards. I have no suggestion. I just like them.

barren grove
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please make the swarm circle be everywhere i want the swarm to be on spawn with no safezones. trust me its very hardcore. oh actually make it so u need lockpicks for every single door too. and remove map. also nerf interaction speed

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who needs a map anyways with this patch its sooo softcore KEKW

frank whale
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i think the brightness needs to be reverted

hollow flame
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wth is this lighting for gui? I understand in the dungeon being dark abut this gui hurts my head.

hollow estuary
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im on max brightness and it feels like a horror game

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wait i don't think brightness does anything
they broke it

upbeat crescent
unique marsh
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Fix the game in general please, it feels like every new update I see is just Ironmace trying to make their whole playerbase quit. Every good change is reverted immediately and every bad change stays for long enough to make the game revolve around it. Do the devs actually play their game? Like seriously it's become a slog to do anything anymore with all this random bullshit like fog of war and druids draining the joy out of your soul every time you try to fight them. Seriously, rat jumping has been in the game since rat was created, and panther chicken has been a problem since it was discovered ages ago, and Ironmace has yet to even try to address the issue. That's just one example by the way, there's a lot of other issues that make it so that if you run into them, the game just becomes unfun to the point of not being worth playing. I can't speak for everyone but I at least know that most of my buddies that play feel the same way about it because like 3 of them have just uninstalled and quit entirely.

nocturne forge
hollow estuary
nocturne forge
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putting brightness on : 1.0 makes the game barely visible, and in 3.0 is playable, but way harder to see than before this horrible patch

hollow estuary
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idk why they changed it

nocturne forge
nocturne forge
# hollow estuary idk why they changed it

probably tried to make it a bit darker, but they went overboard and f*cked it up like with everything they do lately, the UI could use a bit or darker tones, but this is too much

hollow estuary
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im just used to my game being bleached, so this looks so unnatural

nova basin
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they should really implement the ability to trade out rewards for others in the same bracket. Demi for demi, exemp for exemp etc. A one time swap give a chance for people to access stuff they will actually enjoy. i hate putting in a lot of time just for them to release some sub par rewards when I could STILL work hard and trade it out. Enough of this fomo, its completely unnecessary and gatekeeps content for no reason. AND GET RID OF THE BLUESTONE SHARD LIMIT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD @keen onyx @dawn grotto

nocturne forge
nova basin
leaden tinsel
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Fog of War must be removed to my opinion

median mural
frosty kestrel
jolly leaf
icy knot
keen gull
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Can they make an option to turn down the background noise in the lobby without having to turn down the "total volume". Having Christmas music without having my right ear getting violated by fire noises would be enjoyable

barren grove
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buff wizardsssss

hollow crystal
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Since HR is crazy with no loot back/fog of war and all this stuff... couldn't we get one rank for all classes? Im tired of playing as this shitty ass mosquito rogue, but at this point I dont have enough hours to try and get demi on another one, sigh

nocturne forge
split rover
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i want real cleric and monk in the game, and also windowed fullscreen to ACTUALLY BE windowed fullscreen?

quasi crane
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anybody else with Ultrawide monitors sudendly getting 15 fps constantly in game?

half sand
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Add a report option to report trolls in arena or in game generally thanks

stark ibex
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bro revert the brightness changes from this patch wtf i can barely see shit 😭 (in the menus)

jaunty fossil
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sdf is not intelligent for using brain for fixing problems in game

waxen nebula
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I wish we had some sort of random option for sitting emotes or campfires etc

woven marsh
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Suggestion: Sell the IP to a company who knows what they're doing.

vestal cloud
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please fire whoever is in charge of arena map design wtf

shell quail
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FOW ok, Randommized maps ok, but to whom ever decided to revert HR to the old style of gameplay (randomized exits and closing arena) im going to put a cave troll in your basement to shout at you 24/7Cavetroll

barren grove
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wizard needs his rework

shell quail
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Wizard needs a buff not a big one but a buff and maybe here me out remove staff mastery or make staff mastery a passive on all staffs and remove staff mastery

shell quail
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actually not warlock i dont want there filthy spells

barren grove
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he needs a melee rework. make him main crystal sword and the devs should figure out how to make the class playable in solos

shell quail
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nah i dont like crystal swords hes a spell caster not a fighter (i dont think sorc should get longswords and Warlocks should need a perk to get longswords)

barren grove
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highkey now that crystal sword is a bit useless for casting why not make it so it has a parry / if u block with it it reflects magic damage.

shell quail
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ok that would be cool

barren grove
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yeah highkey that should be the thing for wizard

shell quail
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tho honestly give wizard the Monsters spells (for the skelemage sheild just make it go away after it takes dmg)

barren grove
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i think wizard also needs a melee subclass. imagine a wizard with crystal sword blocks and his new melee skill is applying magical effects on hit.

shell quail
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i like the way ur thinking but i dislike casters being strong in melee 2

barren grove
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wizard seriously lost his charm. sorcerer is spamming spells at 50% cooldown in squire throwing the same abilities wizard has but 5 times faster

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oh yeah i said its a subclass. wizard wont be able to cast. meaning hes just going to be looking for melees.

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like imagine blow of corruption but instead its magical rupture with debuffs and the skill changes depending on skill wheel so ice fire etc

shell quail
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but isnt casting what makes wizard wizard? here me out cap the Knowledge the subclass can have at 10 so u can either bring like 2 decent spells or 5 minor spells so u can still cast

barren grove
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thats true. maybe it removes 90% of knowledge too and it would be balanced

shell quail
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id say either cap it or removes 90%

barren grove
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90% makes more sense

shell quail
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cause with 10 spell mem u can have a toltal of 6 spells

barren grove
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im sure the devs would work it out

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also wizard probably would benefit if he had an "arcane wall" similar to druid thorn wall. they can walk through it but take arcane damage

shell quail
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yeah tho honestly i think they should make it so sorc and warlock cant be so melee focused (unless u get a feat)

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im looking at you longsword

barren grove
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i think it should stay on warlock

shell quail
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tho here me out maybe we can get perks to get acess to some of the other class's spells

barren grove
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no <3

shell quail
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ok just sorc spells

barren grove
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not really it doesnt fit wizard

shell quail
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how all they got are elemental spells and thats 90% of wiz's kit

barren grove
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i think a magic missle rework could be fun not going to lie. imagine instead of 12 shots u get 4 hard hitting ones. with high velocity and a slower turn rate. plus a slow rate of fire burst thing

shell quail
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i kinda like the current MM

barren grove
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i was thinking roman candle

shell quail
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maybe have that be a new spell

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gods know we need new oneswizthink

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like here me out we got fireball but we missing Lighting Bolt (no chain lighting doesnt count) idk maybe i play to much DND

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but speaking on subclasses here me out Necromancer subclass for wiz you lose alot of physical stuff but you gain the power to reanimate defeated enemys and players (animated players cant use weapons or spells but still benifit from having armor and are basicly armored Ents from Druid that can be ordered) you'd also wont be able to be a 10 spells necromancer unless you give up the power to comand your undead in which they will litterally just act like druids tree ents

hollow gorge
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add ui scale for stretched users and also more graphics settings settings

rustic glade
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Welcome to druids and barbs

winter idol
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Am I the only one thinking that 300% elemental scaling is far to high on the mobs? Like Double damage or 50% increase would be good but guys if you have time get your sorc and grind ap. Mobs dying like nothing if you know wich element to use

vast axle
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HR is pain. Whoever decided the Goblin Merchant won't give your stuff back from HR is my new least favorite person. I tend to play solos and now I can't even path out where I want to go. Why have the solo HR option at all when only people with thousands of hours can actually make it out alive? Like yeah, skill issue, but I can't invest the time to get good while also paying my bills, and my imaginary friends don't have PCs

meager jasper
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Projectile damage reduction being added in extreme amounts to a vast number of bosses and mobs is complete ass. I'm happy with elemental resistances but you can't build entire classes abilities around using various bolt-based magic or bows and then gives bosses ridiculous 40-50% reductions in essentially all damage from those classes. Projectile DR is not something that should be so heavily applied if at all to mobs. @keen onyx @dawn grotto

river oar
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Non-stop rubberbanding made me die 3 times to ai in HR ... stuck there can't move waiting for my death... rip all my gear... please do something about it

meager jasper
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The fact these are cumulative is obscene. Cave troll has a 40% projectile resistance and a 50% fire resistance. So I'm dealing a quarter of the damage with any of the fire damage I deal with a sorc. Why? For several monsters you've added ice vulnerability and added resistance to projectile dr. For those monsters you do realize literally the only ice damage in the game is projectile based right? There's literally no other source of that kind of damage. They are all various ice spears/bolts in sorc and wizard or waterbolt/prison which is also a projectile

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Great idea, pretty poorly considered. And tbh a lot of classes are basically taking hard nerfs from this who don't have flexibility. Resistances like this require flexible spell lists in order for the game to be interactive. That's what makes systems like this fun. Warlock doesn't have that. Anything evil or fire is now essentially useless in a wide variety of spaces. Fun conceptually, not fun to play with. Their only other option is dark. Whereas Cleric is basically getting a huge free meal because nearly everything is vulnerable to divine magic - and nothing in the game resists divine.

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Preparing for an area by putting all your fire magic for frost is fun. But what if you don't have that at all? That's just painful. Please reconsider class options if this is the core game we're going for now.

icy knot
winter idol
meager jasper
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I don't mind the weaknesses actually. It's exclusively the resistances that I think are silly, at least in the way they're distributed.

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One means you have a tool to deal with mobs easily. The other means you're being shut down.

winter idol
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The combination of damage type and projectile resist is indeed classic IM Messup xD

winter idol
icy knot
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Now give all types of magic passive effect like with zap 🔥
🙏

winter idol
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Also: with this system we need some kind of encyclopedia to look up monster resistances. Relying on 3rd party websites is not a good solution xD

meager jasper
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Agreed. Obfuscating the numbers sucks.

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On a side note, some sort of resistance-penetrating enchantment, as long as it's highly-scaling might be an interesting thing.

winter idol
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Not a bad idea. I always thought mob specific affixes on gear (like goblin damage resist, increased damage against goblins) would be a cool way to differentiate gear beside obvious pvp min maxing. Tbh nobody would run this stuff as an enchantment instead of something pvp oriented, but as an additional affix I totally see this.

cyan gazelle
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Improve auto ban feature

ripe turtle
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Remove Dark Swarm, thank you!

jolly leaf
hollow estuary
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lol theres gonna be nobody on that gamemode then

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it can be the pve mode sdf has been talking about

barren grove
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sdf please main wizard XDDDD

winter idol
barren grove
winter idol
wooden rover
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I personally think that fog of war should be removed all twogether if not just from ranked as it makes goals that you want to do that much harder to accomplish like if you want to fight the troll and learn how to beat him you can’t just look and see where it is now you have to blindly stumble apon it @dawn grotto @keen onyx I’m somewhat new so I don’t have map rooms recognized so it’s just really rough especially for new players trying to learn. sorry to bother y’all.

icy knot
jolly leaf
# wooden rover I personally think that fog of war should be removed all twogether if not just f...

Imo, when you have a couple hundred hours on the game, Fow of war start to be a good thing. It break the routine and improve the feeling of exploration and adventure. But I can agree that right now it's pretty rough, especially when you're still learning module (Start by learning module etc before trying to learn boss imo). And I think there is way to improve Fog of War by many very cool way, have a look at this suggestion and the first comment, there is some very good idea https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/620767/improve-continuous-dungeon-instead-of-reimplementing-the-circle

jolly leaf
wooden rover
jolly leaf
winter knot
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you guys think they should nerf multishot?

jolly leaf
# winter knot you guys think they should nerf multishot?

Probably, it shouldn't be able to one shot melee class. If the ranger hit you once or twice before you reach him and then hit you properly with multishot then ok you should die. But most of the time you're full like he pop multishot, backstep twice on you and one shot you

winter knot
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I feel like just changing it to like 50% damage per hit on the multishot would do it. Or some percentage

eager junco
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Arena feedback -
Gear score diff should be added. Blues getting matched with BIS
Duplicate classes on the same team
Add a team composition.
1 range | 1 tank/healer | 1 dps @dawn grotto

rustic glade
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Wecome to barbs and druidsker

blazing sleet
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It’s be really cool if they made a monster manual thing.

Killing a monster and interacting with the corpse would fill out the manual, giving you the ability to see its stats, resistances, and cool description of the monster in the lobby, and it’d encourage people to actually play several maps and try to kill some of the more difficult monsters. There could also be some one time rewards for completing the manual.

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Now that I think about it, I really like this. I put it in the actual suggestions website. If you like my idea go upvote it to gain it publicity.

forest berry
nova basin
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they should really implement the ability to trade out rewards for others in the same bracket. Demi for demi, exemp for exemp etc. A one time swap give a chance for people to access stuff they will actually enjoy. i hate putting in a lot of time just for them to release some sub par rewards when I could STILL work hard and trade it out. Enough of this fomo, its completely unnecessary and gatekeeps content for no reason. @keen onyx @dawn grotto

half pewter
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I recently came across a list of updates in BG3 and wondered why rogue in DaD can't throw sand in his enemies' faces. There are already such mechanics in the game, it is logical to add it to the active skill.
You can also conduct an experiment - add a buff from a certain character characteristic to some of the skills, for example, reducing the penalty for rogue's movement speed from the amount of agility.

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Can you remind me why there are no reactions in this channel? I would like to add a tick and a cross so that users can rate

deft kiln
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remove all bows, crossbows. etc for all characters except rogue handcrossbow and ranger weapons from arena thank you
kill warlock hydra too ty

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how many arena tests does ironmace need to realize warlock hydra makes no sense in arena

bleak dagger
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For some reason cleric buffs and healing is too overpowered that you cannot play 10 spell cleric anyomre, but 3-tap panther druid and onetap barb is totally fine.

waxen copper
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Buff Halbards… you see like 1 person every 200 games running one

scenic notch
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LESS BOWS.

Ranger should be the only class that gets a bow, and longbow needs to be tuned down at that.

Fighter and Bard can have crossbows, they are more than enough. There is absolutely no fucking reason whatsoever I should be fighting 2-3 bows (usually longbow) on every single team in arena.

Remove class stacking EVEN from soloq. It's getting ridiculous - it is NOT an exaggeration that about 90%+ of my games have 2-3 longbows in it. This sucks all fun out of the game, especially on modules where there is no cover and no way to push them.

astral reef
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Please upvote and spread this around

nocturne pond
# deft kiln how many arena tests does ironmace need to realize warlock hydra makes no sense ...

is it that bad for other people? i logged in after the update with my trio and all 3 of us noticed the lighting and contrast changes. we thought it looked great actually. maybe tweak your nvidia and monitor settings or calibrate them? im not sure. but the game looks much more vibrant in color now and while the shadows may look darker, you can clearly still see outlines of players. the game is meant to be dark. its literally called dark and darker. you should be able to take advantage of nooks and crannies in a dungeon realistically. that just makes sense to me anyways and its just my opinion. but i dont thing this change needs a revert. if somehow its monitor based (even though mines literally from best buy) most people playing the game can use their graphics hub to tweak their settings. nvidia/amd whatever you have you can tweak your graphics and visuals. but once again. i havent tweaked any of them. im playing on a pretty cheap monitor. things look great for me

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its called dark and darker like i said. you should be able to take off your potions and hide away in a corner. its the others players fault for not being cautious. if this overhaul overall makes the game more dark then thats fine. the game being dark changes nothing except forcing players to be a little more aware, which i think is a great aspect in a dungeon crawling pvp extraction game.

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i dont even play rogue, never have, never used invis pots or anything. but when i die to a rouge i dont get mad at the devs or complain because i cant see. i simply got outplayed because i didnt pay enough attention.

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if you want it to be realistic. realistically, if you are going into a dungeon. are you going to have owl like vision and be able to see someone hiding in a corner ready to attack? of course you arent.

slow arch
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bring back b hop[

unkempt hound
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Bring back the normal gamma in the lobby this shit is so horrendous i can't be asked playing the game due to every time i go in the lobby i have the urge to squint at the merchants and items they sell and no settings to change these things.

ripe turtle
icy knot
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4k hours warlock main Change Torture Mastery to the same state as it was before patch 69, player is healing too much.
Test it for yourself with Curse Mastery, because people didn’t use this back then.

[I have no idea how else to talk to this wall](#dnd-memes-only message)

wanton birch
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LET THE WINNING ARENA TEAM STAY IN LOBBY AND LOOT THE MAP

gleaming gust
waxen copper
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Buff halbard it’s so fun and yet no one uses it

wooden eagle
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I started playing after a long time, and wow, how they ruined the game, there's no longer the classic map, there's no longer the safe zone closing in a circle (which encouraged PVP at the end of the match).

upbeat dust
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Make the loot goblin that everyone wants a player. Give it increased luck stat no agro range good speedstat and some traversal ability's, a timer between each goblin run per account. This would add variety and can function as a scav run. It could Also lead to fun interactions between players

rustic glade
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Nerf druid panther

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@dawn grotto I'm sick of being well-equipped and having a druid jump you and wipe you out in 3 hits with the panther, when are they planning on fixing their fucking game?

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Why is it so difficult to fix something like that?

rare vapor
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Make arena have a 225 gear score requirement

meager jasper
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Ignore people crying about balance. You will never balance the game, start accepting that. Just make content and stop making sweeping changes that just piss people off.

icy knot
rustic glade
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I just don't understand why they don't realize that, even if they like the Druid design, it can't continue like this; it's too unfair. Why would they want to lose players on purpose?

rustic glade
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It's not difficult, I like the game, I can't understand how it has such an incompetent team.

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The only good team they have are the people who manage everything on Discord.

meager jasper
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I've said it before, but I'm super sick of people complaining about literally every class in this game. TBH there's literally nothing wrong with panther. I think they should remove the chicken-panther jump mostly because it's weird and gamey and offers too much manoeuvrability, but there's plenty of counters to panther.

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It's cyclical. It's pointless to complain about an asymmetrical system that's always going to not favour you in some way. If you don't like rogues or panthers, play something that can smack them around, it's really that simple. I play sorc and I don't cry whenever my hard-counter classes end me. I have options to deal with them, and if they got the drop on me, that's fine, that's the game.

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You know who I literally never care about when I'm playing bear druid? Rogues and panthers. Barbs too, easily counter both of those things. Don't act like panthers and rogues are some sort of allpowerful mega-class when realistically they have things they're bad at dealing with as well.

icy knot
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I'm super sick of people who say Panther is okay. They clearly haven't played enough casters vs. Panther matchups.

meager jasper
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"matchups"? My brother in christ, if you hear a druid, you should be running away or relying on standing behind someone else as a caster. End of story. They are the counter. That's the intent.

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It's like fighters crying about magic being too strong when they're wearing all negative mdr gear. Deal with it. It doesn't mean the game is bad, it means you should not be fighting something at all if it hard counters you. Which goes into why I want the jump removed, they have too much chase potential.

icy knot
meager jasper
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But the core stats? Perfectly fine. I've played a lot of panther and bear and a lot of caster too at this point. They're not overtuned, the jump is literally the only problem.

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Warlock is the worst, by the way. Warlock has zero chance, but most of the other mages can absolutely take a panther so long as they've got a decent amount of distance to start with.

icy knot
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sorc is in amazing spot. he has so many air spells. And if he fights vs barb he still can still try to outrun him like every warlock.

meager jasper
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And I cannot stress how totally fine I am with warlock being absolutely spanked. Warlock is vastly more annoying to deal with than any other class in the game imo, including druid. They are literally mosquitos.

hollow estuary
icy knot
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70daamge at a toe is unacceptable. If not now, Panther will be nerfed someday.

Mark my words GortWiz

meager jasper
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I think rogues are a bigger problem than panther by a country mile. Their invisibility is far less interactive, and they are just unfun to fight for literally everyone.

meager jasper
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That would mean they deal like 120 core damage, which they absolutely don't, even multiple-dipping into true

icy knot
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They can deal that much damage with good gear.

meager jasper
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No, they literally can't? 50-60 agi would not get you there.

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Seriously you people need to actually play panther and learn how difficult it is to play before you talk smack about what it can do. You obviously have no idea.

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Also panther is obscenely expensive to run because of the +max health requirements at core to make it work as your main form. Panther in many ways is hobbled by just transforming.

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The message you just sent me doesn't even show the panther attacking your feet. @icy knot You do know panthers jump when they attack to get your body, right?

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The panther literally wasn't on screen at all, for all you know they smacked you in the back of the head.

hollow estuary
icy knot
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well you can hear he was spamming right click

hollow estuary
meager jasper
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Yes? You can jump and right click you know?

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There's no evidence here of this being a foot shot and I'm telling you your math makes no sense. This isn't up for debate, the numbers do not go that high.

icy knot
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Hmm, maybe you're right. 70 damage to my cheeks seems reasonable.

meager jasper
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Also the correct play is to shotgun it, by the way.

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I can see you're running it. Two of your arrows probably kills it.

icy knot
meager jasper
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You can use it at range to force a hit. You were probably already fucked there because you were already hurt, but running from a panther simply doesn't work unless you're over 310 ms

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Even if you give him a purple arrow to chew on and think about, that's more likely to make him back off. And remember, they have head-hitboxes now

nova basin
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they should really implement the ability to trade out rewards for others in the same bracket. Demi for demi, exemp for exemp etc. A one time swap give a chance for people to access stuff they will actually enjoy. i hate putting in a lot of time just for them to release some sub par rewards when I could STILL work hard and trade it out. Enough of this fomo, its completely unnecessary and gatekeeps content for no reason. Visit this link to upvote it if youd like. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/611752/fair-cosmetic-trade

granite knot
alpine violet
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GET RID OF MULTIPLE CLASSES IN ARENA! I shouldnt have to fight against 3 FUCKING JUICED RANGERS! seriously....

vast axle
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Would be nice if there were PvP safe zones. Not horrifically fond of trying to lose other teams by running through as many rooms as possible, especially when you're just gunna run into MORE people doing that. Could implement a 1-team-per-exit out of a four way room or something, throw a perma campfire in it if the devs are feeling especially kind

gloomy anchor
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hey does anyone know why i got a game error while in my stash with my arena kit and when i restarted all my gear i was wearing on that one character are gone?

vital obsidian
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Bring back Tavern loading screen

gloomy anchor
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hey does anyone know why i got a game error during matchmaking in arena with my arena kit and when i restarted all my gear i was wearing on that one character are gone? its not ok... I'm pretty upset tbh i spent so long and so much time to make a bis kit and its gone... just gone, im wearing a squire kit and i feel defeated i had goals to play arena today and now with todays market ingame i cant afford a dam throwing axe... i demand compensation!!!!!! @Graysun @sdf plz share this spread the word im not the only person this has happened too !!!!! WE NEED TO BE COMPENSATED FOR OUR TIME !!!

green marsh
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I cant handle this shi no more my stash is always a mess i have an idea what about a sorting system for them to keep them organized and neat with a single press of a button you can have everything organized a specific way

versed hinge
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pls enable arena for the whole week now that arena season has ended

meager jasper
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And false consensus you reach with people who don't understand the class means nothing too.

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Just another player weeping about whatever class counters him. Get better at the game, and stop encouraging IM to make heavy-handed nerfs that literally stops people from even playing these classes.

I've literally never seen video evidence of anyone correctly dealing with a panther when they say it's op. If I could share videos here I'd share Fishu's, where he abandoned a high position the panther would only be able to reach with a chicken jump, ran past the panther to try and escape, and not once shot a single arrow. People flub and panic against panther all the time, and they rely on it. Stay calm, and hit them in the head. It's very often that simple. And don't come at me with bs about them being able to kill plated fighters or max hp barbs face-on. They can't, and they never could. If they're going to deal with those classes they need to get them from behind or rely on their panic in some way. It works very much the same as a rogue, they simply cannot face-trade without shenanigans, and they don't have the cute ranged options rogue does.

teal canyon
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get out of here. 60 agil panther has to be the most broken thing going around. buggy as attacking hitbox , buggy as head hitbox - theres 0 counter play . the 60 agil panther will facetank anything

icy knot
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Maybe game needs lots of type of dungeon events at the end of the season to keep player numbers high

icy knot
# jolly leaf Imo, when you have a couple hundred hours on the game, Fow of war start to be a ...

If you introduce three HR game modes:

  • Current state
  • No circle
  • No fog, no circle

The entire player base will play easiest mode while still receiving the same high-quality gear from dungeon.

If you adjust the gear rewards for different HR dungeons which cost lots of dev time, you end up creating multiple game modes, which increases server costs for developers and players will probably still play the easiest mode.

What previously made HR different from normal mode? Mobs and bosses. But were they really that much of a challenge for players? For experienced ones no.

meager jasper
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Three modes is completely undesirable imo. The dark swarm just needs to be gone, it sucks and it always did.

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I already think it's a big mistake to add pve-only.

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All they'll do is further split the playerbase. Neither PVE nor Arena should be in the game, they are purely a dilution of what DaD is and will further warp the meta to accomodate them.

icy knot
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I think the biggest problem with circle system is that there is not enough portals at the end. And that boss is outside the circle most of the time.

meager jasper
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The circle never needed to be in the game, period. There's no point in fixing what adds nothing. The game is about exploring dungeons, and it only serves to oppose that.

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When they removed it it was one of the best decisions they ever made. It ended all kinds of ridiculous play, like running into it intentionally and healing through it. Ended so many cheesy deaths caused by layouts because it forces you to bite off more than you can chew. It's not a 'hardcore' mechanic, it purely exists to pressure people into the same space, and this isn't a BR. Just don't do that.

And static exits? They were great. There's no reason they should have been removed. They were pretty clearly always the best form of exit the game could have. Making something more obtuse does not make it more 'hardcore'.

icy knot
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What if circle is activated at the end? 3 minutes before timer ends? That could be cool solution.

But similar mechanic is already implemented in normals

meager jasper
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You're still talking about hypotheticals regarding a mechanic that's totally unjustified. The solution is taking it back out.

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Not only that, but the existence of the dark swarm is the reason we aren't allowed the goblin merchant in HR. And that's totally unacceptable too.

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Mark my words, after the wipe, HR is going to be dead, because no one will care about AP anymore, and the mode is so unpleasant only the sweatiest will care about it. Or classes highly overtuned to deal with pve right now - like cleric vs anything in hell.

winter idol
# icy knot If you introduce three HR game modes: - Current state - No circle - No fog, no c...

That's why imo they should rework there highroler concept entirely.

Screw different modes (keep arena on weekends if you want) and screw gear brackets.
Assign a gear bracket to each map. So fe.
GC 0-24
New Water Map 25-124
Forgotten castle 125-224
Frost Mountain 225+
(Even better would be to cap by gear rarity not by an abusable arbitrary gear score)

Balance mobs and loot on each map according to that gear level.
Reward AP on all maps but with increasing numbers the higher the map.

Pros:

  • if you want to implement certain special rules like circle for specific maps you can if you want to separate them from each other.
  • queues get drasticly reduced (esp. If you consider that they will add more and more maps along the way)
  • suddenly you created a gameplay loop, where you are enticed to get better gear not just for the sake of it, but to actually unlock content in form of new maps, new enemies, better loot and so on.
  • if in the future you implement more maps they not just end up beeing mutliplicative more queues without really being "motivating content" but instead they are just additive more queues further building the gameplay loop.
  • everyone would still have the choice to play the map or the gear they want but they have to prioritise which is more important to them.
meager jasper
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GC 0-24
New Water Map 25-124
Forgotten castle 125-224
Frost Mountain 225+

That's completely awful, especially with resistances now being in the game. No.

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The only way that would work is if it cycled every week or something. And you'd just see the player count completely drop during certain times where certain classes are just not allowed to play what they want.

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They have constantly changed the lobby system, and this is the best version it has ever been. There's nothing wrong with the lobby system right now, and they've even managed to shore it up reasonably with continuous spawning. I don't want them to change it, again.

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There's also no problem with normal vs HR, it's just that they've utterly ruined HR. It was totally fine before they re-added the swarm. "fixing" their mistake by re-forcing maps for certain difficulties or group types is not a solution when you're just telling people they can't play the way they want.

icy knot
meager jasper
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(Even better would be to cap by gear rarity not by an abusable arbitrary gear score)
'abusable'? The fact you don't like building builds in this game is a you problem. I do. That's part of the skill of this game, and I find it disingenuous you'd talk smack about it being a problem. Having a build allowance is a totally reasonable way of forcing a constraint that makes people build well within the environment.

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Also, we had that system before, and it was worse.

icy knot
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I would love to try 0-24 high roller.

meager jasper
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The point of high roller is to make people run gear. It's literally in the name.

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And you pretty much did have that in some older versions of HR when it was just an ante. Because nobody wanted to risk gear and just ran the bare minimum.

icy knot
winter idol
# meager jasper > (Even better would be to cap by gear rarity not by an abusable arbitrary gear...

I like to build builds don't worry. But certain builds are not viable in lower brackets because you cant realisticly bring in multiple colored weapons. With gear score builds like fe. hatchet barbs, shapeshift druids or bare hands sorcs are heavily favored, because they can distribute there gs better than let's say fighters or spear rangers that rely on multiple weapons. Thats what i mean by abuseble. I have no problem with the current gs system. I just think making it dependent on max rarity wouöd solve some issues while keeping the strenghts and would still allow for the same building possibilities.

meager jasper
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having colour-based brackets completely sucked. I'd rather they simply reworked the numbers tied to weapons if that's what they want to do.

languid thorn
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remove circle for HR
make maps 4x bigger
full random + fog of war
Bring proper number of players for the size of the map

add more loot categories: jewlcrafting, blacksmithing, alchemy, enchanting,.... each loot category having its own very high value item

rework quest rewards to unlock ability to purchase certain items much more openly instead of useless item rewards

reduce the cost of crafting items by 50%

add ability to shops to dismantle items for materials
(the materials should be also findable in game)

add ability to enchant items for bonuses that HELP with PVE only

rework gemming, gemming should be FREE
right click the item and slot the gems you want any time you want even in dungeon (this applies only to OWNED items not found in the dungeon)

dismantling items has a chance to drop gems from based on the stats it has (this will bring use of the legendary items)
(You can only get a gem from a found item by dismantling it)
make gems more available for blue, epic, legendary and unique
ALLOW gems to be used UP TO the same item quality
So an Epic chest can use a green gem
Gems have quality value stats example: Emerald gem Green + 1 hp, Blue + 2 hp .... and so on

QOL

Add BARTERS for items
Add Coin Chest as unlock purchase reward price 10.000 G it can hold 100.000 G (last quest from treasurer)
Add Armor Chest as unlock purchase reward price 5.000 G from Armour (last quest)
Add Weapon Chest same thing
Add Medical Crate same thing from alchemy or surgeon

QUEST SHOULD REWARD PURCHASE UNLOCK aka
Instead of afinity unlocking more random items
Quest example
Kill 50 Champions you get to unlock ability to buy Epic fine cuirass 5 in quantity per reset

winter idol
winter idol
# meager jasper The only way that would work is if it cycled every week or something. And you'd ...

No need to be disrespectfull btw. Its just an idea. I know that resticting players from content that they already had access to will always get backlash. But IM imo made the mistake to make every form of content accesible to everyone from the get go. What seams to be great is the reason the game becomes stale after a couple dozen of hours because if everything is unlocked, there cant be any progression. Also making everything accessible at every gearscore is the reson we have so many queues in the first place. This might work for now with continuous dungeon, but everyone wants new maps once in a while and every map they add currently adds 4 new queues, which will be a massive problem once there are a few more maps released. Imagine dark and darker had this type of progressive map unlocking from the start. Nobody would have given it a second thought because it is a well established system in basically every rpg and MMO. Even dungeonborn went this way. I could totally see this becoming stale for veterans that only play he highest bracket tho. Maybe you could make all maps accessible in the highest bracket basically as a HR Version. This would still reduce queues per map from 4 to 2 in the long run.

winter idol
# meager jasper When they removed it it was one of the best decisions they ever made. It ended a...

And my thought on that: your completely right. Static extracts where the best iteration of dungeon escapes we ever had. The only problem was (and still is with reds) that people fought around it and just bailed when fights went bad. Tactical retreat and reset is one thing but this just crests countless situations, where fight for half the map time just for your opponent to bail out and everything you earned for essentially winning the fight is that you wasted alot of mess and time with nothing in return. Random portals arnt a solution to this tho. The most optimal way would be to keep statics locked behind the portcullis even when they are activated. If you want to go through you have to interact with them like with portals, which opens them. Then they stay open for like 10 secs before they close again and you have to reopen them.

That would change a boring easy bail into a high adrinaline escape scenario, where you have to create yourself a timewindow to crank the gate up and escape. With a loud sound indicator to it. And if you mess up the enemy probably got a health reset while you were busy cranking that lever. With this statics would completely keep there functionality in noncombat situations while solving the escape problem.

icy knot
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I suggest giving enemy small concussion effect when hit by Club in the head.

meager jasper
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I agree they should not be adding an extra map lobby. Three is enough. There should be more layers added to existing maps.

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It's always been lopsided that goblin has no down and therefore no real area for greater gear. Frost caves is vastly improved by having an abyss imo, now. But since they re-added ruins/crpyts/hell as a thing the system is just out of balance again. There should be three layers for each map, or two layers for each map.

winter idol
winter idol
meager jasper
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In an ideal world I could see a situation where eventually they make more maps and maybe rotate maps out in a season to keep things fresh or something, but we're nowhere near that with the maps not all having the amount of layers they should.

meager jasper
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Now that monsters have resistances, I reckon most armor types should as well. Unless something is straight up enchanted to have magic resistance, like runestone gloves, there's not much sense in having magic resist diectly on gear when for example plate could be vulnerable to lightning damage and bludgeoning from earth damage, while leather is pretty fire-resistant and cloth isn't, etc. They shouldn't be as extreme as the resistances/weaknesses on monsters though, for obvious reasons.

winter idol
# meager jasper Now that monsters have resistances, I reckon most armor types should as well. Un...

I really like that idea. In addition instead of true damage (which always will be problemstic) how about add elemental damage as an enchantment for gear. With that martial classes could also play around the new elemental mechanic atleast a little bit and this would be a neat option to add fancy visual effects to your weapons that look great and help your enemies figure out what kind of damage enchantment you have going.

meager jasper
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Yeah. I've always thought that rogue poison shouldn't be just untyped magical damage too. Poison should be its own damage type, and druid probably should have ways of using it too or something. There's a bunch of monsters in the game that use it on us too, so gear that's resistant to it would be interesting.

winter idol
upbeat dust
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Make elemental arrows that split bow damage between phs and elemental. Also add coatings that do the same for melee it wouldnt be strong in pvp but it would be strong in pve and look cool

icy knot
winter idol
icy knot
nova basin
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they should really implement the ability to trade out rewards for others in the same bracket. Demi for demi, exemp for exemp etc. A one time swap give a chance for people to access stuff they will actually enjoy. i hate putting in a lot of time just for them to release some sub par rewards when I could STILL work hard and trade it out. Enough of this fomo, its completely unnecessary and gatekeeps content for no reason. Visit this link to upvote it if youd like. maybe just maybe itll be seen https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/611752/fair-cosmetic-trade

sharp mulch
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@keen onyx why the f are we still healing and buffing dead mobs on the ground when we cast over them? why hasnt this been fixed seasons ago?

icy knot
granite sapphire
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I thought that arena would be open from the 21st until the 31st

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What SDF doing 🗿

pale osprey
next juniper
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keep arena open wtf

amber flax
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KEEP ARENA OPEN

astral reef
icy knot
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I was about to play Arena, but I forgot it's only available on weekends. I wish there was at least lower gear score Arena that's open 24/7

jolly leaf
winter idol
jolly leaf
# winter idol Tbh I wouldn't mind end of wipe. Servers are kinda empty anyway xD

Of course, for the last 2-3 week it would be ok. Might even bring back some people. Imo the good idea would be to open both arena and AP season early on after the wipe and end the arena season like they did this time like 1 month before wipe, allowing people to bring non minted gear to build any kit they want. Then close AP season 1 or 2 week before wipe and do some fun event on the last week. That would keep people on the game. First month they farm quest and gear. Next month farm AP, farm for craft, optimize arena kit. And last month before wipe Arena season end, people can build cool kit arena is open all the time, 2 week later AP season end, add a fun event and wipe

icy knot
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Someone posted this paladin idea:
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/623885/paladin-class-idea
The devs have mentioned they’re considering adding a Paladin or something similar.

I’d like to add:
Currently, the Cleric is already quite strong, even without any specific Paladin perks. I believe the Cleric should have more unique perks that differentiate it from being just a melee and healer. One issue is that the Cleric Healer is extremely tanky, especially with plate armor, making him less of a priority target in fights. I think plate armor should be unlocked through a perk, rather than being a default feature.

jolly leaf
icy knot
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I hope we will see team shared map pings in next season.

shy tide
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Game dying because you guys can't simply increase search time for a game making us suffer in empty games.

winter idol
jolly leaf
marsh grotto
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@regal frigate

solid sluice
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It might have already been brought up but I was wondering how useful a 'Cast on self' button would be. For example a Cleric could hold alt and cast Bless on himself while watching an enemy?

icy knot
hidden hemlock
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Introduce a system where killing a player gives you access to their map

finite night
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introduce a way do dodge gk chase in solo

jolly leaf
rustic glade
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The worst of all was when I won the first fight but he fled in rat mode through ice pillars to heal his entire life with 2 spells and still defend that stupidly broken class

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The druid class is killing the fun of HR, it needs a nerf urgently.

meager jasper
rustic glade
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Well, do you play with players who don't move or don't have hands?

meager jasper
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My guy, learn to play the game. When you lose, it doesn't mean the game is rigged against you.

rustic glade
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He literally ran at 330 move speed, he could have jumped across the room to leave anyway, and after healing faster than a warlock, he came back to kill me at 330 move speed on a panther to hit me 2 times while flying with a bear, IS THAT NORMAL FOR YOU?

rustic glade
meager jasper
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It's not even my main class, sorc is buddy.

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You literally don't know how to play and are looking for anything to blame but yourself.

rustic glade
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Nah, nonsense, the druid class can do everything, learning to play against it is an excuse to avoid a nerf.

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If the developers think like you, this game is destined to fail.

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And there's not much time left, every decision they make is a step towards sinking the game even faster, the player base has dropped ridiculously.

meager jasper
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fearmongering idiocy

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You started by exclaiming that they were op, replying to a post that is an objective fact: You cannot reach 120 base damage with panther.

Then you started lying about a panther reaching 330 ms, which if you played panther you'd know is impossible because the form has a lower move cap than maximum. All while hyperbolizing how incredibly powerful both the movement and damage is of panther of all things, when playing a barb. All you're telling me without telling me is that you make constant misplays and blame everything else but yourself, like a vast majority of immature children on this server.

Take a video of yourself getting bullied by an OP panther next time, and I'll be happy to tell you exactly what you did wrong, like the guy above who at least unlike you seems to be able to recognize math being objective fact.

cosmic narwhal
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are the maps randomly generated now?

jolly leaf
ashen canyon
# jolly leaf Yes

Besides frost cavern and ice abyss

Replied to wrong person @cosmic narwhal

jolly leaf
ashen canyon
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Oh I’m sure

granite knot
rustic glade
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I don't understand people who defend something indefensible.

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I think it's stupid that they can't make a good balance change, either it works on panther, or it heals or it works on bear, it shouldn't be able to do everything, it needs a NERF

hollow estuary
odd locust
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we need a boss room indicator on the map im tired of running through 14 modules to try and find the boss room

elfin onyx
slow arch
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bring back b hop

jolly leaf
zealous pawn
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Nerf projectile damage. It is way too oppressive. The MPB changes feel good for the most part. It would be nice if ranged weapons received the same nerf

rich oxide
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Make it so you can only play normals from levels 1-20 and after you're forced into HR pls and ty.

icy knot
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There are suggestions to remove the fog of war from the game. Even though this change would negatively impact gameplay, it can still receive thousands of upvotes from the community—just like what @jolly leaf is doing.

Are the developers really going to implement any idea as long as it gets enough votes, even if it harms the game?

Do I need more votes for the return of the Expressman suggestion? I think the devs have already gotten the message, and if the idea is good enough, they'll implement it.

granite sapphire
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Removing the Goblin Merchant for hr has made hr much less worth playing. Even from an experienced player’s perspective, it seems to make the game objectively less fun (which seems to be the point, I guess?)

winter idol
granite sapphire
winter idol
slow arch
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bring back b hop

steel pendant
jolly leaf
cerulean fossil
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If they dont make gold sorting easy this wipe...

icy knot
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What if Ray of Darkness didn’t cost health during the initial cast but drained health every second for its duration?

cosmic narwhal
jolly leaf
cosmic narwhal
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I stopped playing for almost a year and now i'm finally back to see many....changes....(not necessarily bad or good....just changes...)

jolly leaf
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Ok so were you still playing when they removed the multiple layout of each map and we end up with one layout of Goblin cave, 2 for Crypt and 2 for inferno?

cosmic narwhal
jolly leaf
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I'll be more straight forward. For some time now, we used to have only 1 or 2 layout for most map. That caused some kind of redundancy in the gameplay, without new "in dungeon" content, such as new point of interest, new activities to do etc the game started to feel kinda dull for all those who weren't playing only for PvP. Every game start looking the same, rush boss or mid room to find PvP, each interesting module behing camped by PvP player. Random dungeon and Fog of war tend to revive a bit the Dungeon crawler aspect of the game

slow arch
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bring back b hop

jolly leaf
jolly leaf
cosmic narwhal
cosmic narwhal
jolly leaf
# cosmic narwhal hmmmmmm....i...guess..it provides a certain level of novelty.. However, it didn'...

I totally agree with you, it shouldn't have been the first piece to have been added, it should support other feature and new content instead. But I guess it was faster and easier to do than new point of interest so they released that first which was a mistake imo. And even worst they pushed it on every map instead of adding it to only one map and use it as a testing ground to make it more interesting, for exemple you could get the map of people you kill, have new shrine who discover the module around you, add a new item you can only find in the dungeon and are 1 time use who show a path to a boss, an exit or something like that on your map

jolly leaf
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I was talking about that yesterday and I listed several suggestion who are, I think, essential to the game right now

Imo, everything's here. Focus on the dungeon, make it a place where you can both be satisfied as PvP and PvE player, make it so it's not too random, with tool and cool in dungeon thing to find your way. And Listen to what people suggest, want or not and test it in a more accessible environnement (improved test server)

cosmic narwhal
# jolly leaf I was talking about that yesterday and I listed several suggestion who are, I th...

Ok, Something i thought about and discussed in the Rogue lobby that i really think would be interesting.
What if there were points of interest simillar to statues and shrines, but for map awareness?
For 1 in every 2 or 3 nodes, there`d be something that allows players to see a signifficant portion of the map (clearing a part of the fog).
Maybe a magic paintbrush or something, that, once activated, shows the map, and you yourself, can use the magic inc to reveal parts of the map hidden in the fog, until the ink runs out.
Fun and useful to use.
And maybe such item (like magic pen, or magik ink, idk) could be an item that can be bought by some kind of merchant.

And another mechanic that would be interesting would be that, since everyone is trying to uncover the map and reveal different parts.
If you kill a player, you can steal their map and reveal the areas that he explored.
Just some food for thought

jolly leaf
# cosmic narwhal Ok, Something i thought about and discussed in the Rogue lobby that i really thi...

I don't want to be rude but I feel a bit offended xD I litteraly said those two suggestion in the talk we had earlier. #suggestion-discussion message (In the end of this message). If you still didn't looked at the suggestion I sent about this I invite you to do so and upvote it xD

slow arch
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bring back b hop

hollow estuary
jolly leaf
shy tide
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I can't find andyone in HR to pvp fix it

meager jasper
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Map rotation sucked, we don't need anything right now, it's dead because it's end of wipe.

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This happens literally every wipe, stop crying. It won't go away, so stop advocating literally ruining the game's lobby system because you don't like the basic reality of a seasonal extraction game. Come back later if you don't like quiet lobbies. Sweet jesus.

proven wigeon
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dev need to fix blocking with a sword. Make it so swords do not go through yours while you are blocking with a sword.
if I'm being chased down as sorc and turn around with sword, doesn't matter if I block, if someone if at a certain distance you might as well just stand still and die.

you will not outcast dps from sword swings.
you won't outrun most classes and you will not be blocking thats forsure. People complain about balancing when this is a basic combat mechanic they should have hammered out from day one. Just like some barrels needing to be jumped and crouched on but on specific angles.

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this is basic stuff..

fleet pagoda
elfin onyx
fleet pagoda
meager jasper
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Dark Swarm and any adjacent mechanics are bad for the game and should be removed.

elfin onyx
# fleet pagoda <@376220052321730561> lol, i like the idea of that.. as long as the game gets su...

the game getting so dark that you need to use a torch sounds more like ruins.

i thought of a what-if area/map underneath inferno that's called "the bleak" or just "bleak" where its so dark a torch or some kind of light is required, all enemies are nightmare and a new even more difficult level of mob is introduced that a a kind of glow in the dark purple like some already nightmare mobs like wolfs eyes and centaur

meager jasper
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They were right the first time when they took them out. The swarm adds nothing to the game but arbitrary pressure in a game that should be about exploration and caution.

lilac garden
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remove druid sorcerer warlock bard ranger and make them subclasses instead

elfin onyx
# meager jasper They were right the first time when they took them out. The swarm adds nothing t...

you joined around the same time i did so you know the game used to be a lot more hardcore like not having the squire or a marketplace for certain items, the game is about exploration until you know every module and know what to expect from said module.

ironmace either has to pump out module rapidly or they can make the game tougher through swarm to encourage pvp/caution and fow to encourage exploration into the unknown, i agree the swarm can add pressure but i played during when it was gone and it was easy to get ap so that's why its in hr and not normals

meager jasper
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The swarm isn't hardcore, it's annoying.

elfin onyx
meager jasper
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The only danger it offers false difficulty. It either forces you to not explore areas you want to explore, or make inadvisable routes and put yourself at risk of mobs. It also inherently encourages camping the swarm with healing.

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Did you not hear me the first time? The swarm should not have been re-added. The game was literally fine before now. Never cater to sweats.

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Mark my words, HR is going to be dead in the new season. Nobody's going to want to play it once everyone's done their ap farm. It doesn't matter how arbitrarily hard something is if it's unfun. And the dark swarm, is unfun.

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And it's also the root reason why we're supposedly not allowed the goblin anymore, which will revert hr into being 'nobody wants to bring in real kits' again. Nobody's risking real gear beyond the bare minimum in a mode that randomly spawns you in locations that might kill you.

elfin onyx
# meager jasper The only danger it offers false difficulty. It either forces you to not explore ...

if you were able to explore the whole map you could just avoid people and hide in the corners to get free loot, i automatically assume there will be other people in the heart of the circle, since there's one portal that spawns at the end.

id say cater to the sweats for highroller, not so much "sweats" but people who play who want more of a challenge out of the game

also that's the beauty of a wipe game, you don't have to worry about what gear you bring in, its all going to be deleted at one point so don't be afraid to bring in good gear to prove you didn't die to a gear-dif

meager jasper
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What a weak take. The point of the game is making good decisions and attempting to survive. Forcing conflict inorganically is stupid.

elfin onyx
hollow estuary
meager jasper
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Bluntly, I despise the people like yourself who insist the pve takes a backseat to the pvp like that. That kind of mindset alienates so many people and makes the game totally toxic. Never, ever, cater, to, sweats. That is how so many games kill their playerbase. And it will kill my interest in HR personally, as well, despite being one myself.

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It's completely deluded. "Let's make the game awful to play for the majority of players but those who have already been here for a thousand hours"

elfin onyx
meager jasper
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Show me a game that has gotten more 'hardcore' over time and it actually being a success. I can show you a dozen high profile ones that did the opposite and are increasingly hated.

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I'm sure you'd be a big fan of pve mode too, it's also a deeply stupid idea that will split the players in half and make pvp engagements even more toxic. Incredible.

next juniper
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I'd say the changes losing half the playerbase instantly should speak for itself

meager jasper
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The pvp demands a meta of newbies and sweats or it will become totally intolerable and even the sweats wont stay. This is basic as fuck.

elfin onyx
meager jasper
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Lol highroller rewards are only cosmetic? So the increased loot in HR is something I imagined then? Okay.

elfin onyx
next juniper
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also if anyone points this out people say its end of wipe but the player base was cut in half after patch 80 dropped the steam reviews/discussions shows a majority of newer players that were getting into this game really really disliked the fow and randomization (though i think the randomization is fine) but most of those players can barely survive normal lobbies before the changes now its extremely hardcore for the timmies in normals lol they cant find exits they cant clear rooms fast enough they cant find bosses much less learn them

meager jasper
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Your behaviour is unironically elitist gatekeeping, and take my arguments for an insult if you will. They should be. I have little regard for your opinion. "Only the sweats and those who enjoy suffering in a bad mode should go there! Everyone else can choose not to engage with the game's loop!"

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So far I have not heard a single intelligent opinion from you.

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Just weirdly short-sighted personally motivated emotional judgements that I'm willing to bet the majority of other players do not share.

next juniper
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I think they removed the ap buy in cause people are randomly dying to storm which is so extremely "hardcore" its great being in inferno and needing to revive a friend or anything only to have to tell them sol i gotta head to circle apparently i need to clear 3 rooms at lightspeed to get out

meager jasper
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I actually quite like the AP buy in removal. Passive gain over time is a better way of doing the AP system. They need to actually release the rewards sooner in the season though. And increase the AP required accordingly.

elfin onyx
next juniper
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Honestly I think if we keep the swarm we should add in more rng shit that kills you and removes the dungeon delving further why explore the dungeon also i think with the swarm in isnt it weird we arent dropping off the battle bus usually i always get a battle bus with my circles in games they go hand in hand

winter idol
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Man @meager jasper although I agree with most of your arguments, pls try to calm yourself a little. Over the last couple of days there where a lot of convos inthis channel where people talked respectfully to you about there opinions, amd you always return major aggression. I'm not saying you're wrong in your opinion. But pls show some respect to the opinion of others.

meager jasper
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I'm totally calm, scathing words or not.

meager jasper
# elfin onyx I'm not a robot, and neither are you lmao, of course my argument is going to hav...

The key word was personally motivated and short-sighted. You're making decisions based on your immediate and personal gain, not even realizing just how much you will absolutely hate the game if you get what you want and you literally kill the playerbase. Your entire take has a lack of foresight and understanding of the environment you're even in, like you know nothing about games in general, or you'd be able to see these patterns in other game's development cycles as well.

elfin onyx
meager jasper
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Call it a nothingburger if you want. IM have shown repeatedly that they either implement bad ideas they see or think about themselves. It's practically a duty to loudly tell them something is stupid before they do it, and I'm happy to do it. I really don't think the condition of HR right now is a nothingburger. They've actively ruined it.

elfin onyx
next juniper
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I really enjoy playing hr for 6 hours straight at night time only to find no one ever in there anymore in trios cause of the portal situation and circle being so bad down in inferno atm

meager jasper
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Calling for heads? Don't mischaracterize my stance. I'm being perfectly civil.

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Show me where I threatened or overstepped and made a personal attack that wasn't directly a challenge to an idea.

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If I disagree loudly with you, or IM, or anyone else, I'm not threatening them or saying they're bad people. I'm saying their decision is dumb. Which it is. And this song and dance isn't for your benefit, to be clear, it's to show that you're wrong to others.

elfin onyx
# meager jasper Calling for heads? Don't mischaracterize my stance. I'm being perfectly civil.

"Bluntly, I despise the people like yourself"

"What a weak take"

why i do say my good fellow this is rather uncivilized talk, and adding the last tid-bit that those insults are latchted onto challenging an idea is a copout.

We all have our own way of arguing/debating. in your case emotion is imbedded to, which is fine, at least to me, but others may not have the same feeling about it, and i don't want your voice/arguments to be muted/unheard because you had to add insults to it and others feel attacked over it.

meager jasper
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Telling the devs how their decisions impact the feel of their game is literally the point of feedback.

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You are being told your ideas make me feel an incredible amount of disdain. But I am not saying I hold some sort of grudge against you or want you harmed. This is called being unable to take criticism, by the way.

jolly leaf
elfin onyx
meager jasper
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I fully understand you feel the same way about me. I just don't care. I don't think you're being uncivil yourself, by the way, though I do think you're completely wrong. Feedback should not exist in a safe little bubble where you or anyone else cannot experience the negative consequences of what they say.

elfin onyx
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I've made my case

meager jasper
jolly leaf
meager jasper
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Others who appreciate bluntness will resonate with it. It doesn't matter.

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The thing amount convincing people is that your style of rhetoric will not cater to everyone. And that's just life.

jolly leaf
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And trust me I have the same frustration you have when I see how IM work but I try to speak the less aggresively possible and only with fact so a maximum of person can hear what I say

meager jasper
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It's a mistake to think pure rationality will reach the most people.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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Especially when it involves tolerating foolish positions. It just makes you look weaker. And no, I'm not trolling. That would imply I'm being disingenuous.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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You misunderstand how group consensus works. There was never a world in which I convince him to change his position. The goal is for people to see the ideas clash and decide which one is correct themselves.

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If wreck ever changes his mind it will be months from now. Same for me.

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There was never a chance he'd convince me either. That's just how an argument works.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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When you can change someone's mind it generally means they haven't formed an emotional opinion on it yet.

jolly leaf
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We can agree to disagree and move on, this channel is not meant for that xD

meager jasper
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Yes, at this point we're literally discussing psychology and not the game. Have a lovely day =D

grave veldt
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yeah lets move this back onto discussion about the game please and be sure to follow the server rules while using the channel

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thanks

jolly leaf
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Anyway the Swarm, in my opinion, is a bad idea, it's not more hardcore, it's more random, more frustrating. It force people to PvP which is bad, PvP should come from interesting Point of interests on the map, boss room etc instead of an unavoidable game mechanic. The game is PvPvE, for me, that means you should be able to easily find PvP but you should also be able to avoid it and focus on PvE/Dungeon crawling if you want to (Until some point, high end point of interest like boss etc should be hot spot where you can't always avoid PvP). Fog of war and Randomized dungeon with the good improvement could add varieties to the dungeon without being too punitive and irritating. (This suggestion have very good idea on what could be done on all those subject : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/620767/improve-continuous-dungeon-instead-of-reimplementing-the-circle)

winter idol
jolly leaf
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We all came to this game because the Dungeon was a new and unique experience, I would find it sad to see it lean more to PvP or PvE or to split into several game mode. We all love the Dungeon, we're all here for that, focus on that, make it a better place

granite sapphire
meager jasper
icy knot
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Anyway

I don't know about you guys, but when I was a new player a long time ago, the hardest part of the dungeon for me was PVP, even when the circle existed.

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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For instance they accidentally re-added gold to goblin caves mining spots. That was a good change, especially with map being randomized. It created a place for people to fight over and something to do that wasn't fighting the two bosses or farming silk.

granite sapphire
jolly leaf
meager jasper
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And likely next season those bosses will have craftable weapons themselves

jolly leaf
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For me there is easy one.
The Expressman : Put him in a random room in the dungeon and your need to go there to give him stuff to extract.
Fishing : https://youtu.be/eusNKWKROfg nothing to add.
A forge : It does the same thing that the Goldsmith but you can get the max roll of a stat and it cost only the gem (That mean you need to bring your gear and gem in the dungeon and take the risk to lose it)
A gem Hoard: Like a gold Hoard but with a higher gem drop rate, put them only behind the Key room so people actually use them

meager jasper
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Aside from re-adding mines to non-boss rooms? I think it comes down to having a variety of craftables in the environments. I'd actually rather a lot more of the game's crafting wasn't gated behind bosses, because that just creates arbitrary scarcity.

Take for example wolf pelts. Is the game meaningfully improved by tying wolf pelts to half a dozen important items and the coin bag? Why is the white pelt not used for the bag and the gray pelt not used for the armours? Also there are literally two types of wolf but both of them drop the same two pelts. The frost one being unique and dropping the fluffy white one makes more sense, and makes it a unique point of interest inherently compared to the ruins wolves.

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I'd worry fishing would go the way of herbs and not be worth it. I hope they overhaul how alchemy works, because it's just so inefficient and weird. You shouldn't need to upgrade potions, you should just make them with the right ingredients.

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But in principle I don't mind the idea.

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I like basically all those ideas. I like the idea of having to bring in craftables to use an in-map crafter too, that's interesting

jolly leaf
meager jasper
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monster hunter intensifies

jolly leaf
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xD Honestly that's secondary, I think the couple idea I gave would already be, maybe not enough, but so much more than what we have now the game would be so much more interesting and replayable

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And at least for the expressman and gem hoard it would probably be very easy to add and could be pretty fast

meager jasper
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I agree with basically all of that. The maps need more intrigue to them. I bring it up from time to time but Marauders, despite all its flaws, has really dense maps with points of note everywhere. I want more of that in DaD as opposed to just rooms with monsters and boxes.

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The only thing of interest to most rooms is just layout. And rarely, what kind of monster is there. There's almost nothing specific to the modules.

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They did recently add a room to hell with a stairway-obstacle-course to a pile. I thought that was really good, making use of what they had to make something pretty interesting, but we need more variety to the actual mechanics of these points too.

jolly leaf
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I hope next wipe people will keep using Unique gem as a trading money instead of key, so we can finally use them for what they're meant and have one more point of interest

meager jasper
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Yeah I'm super happy I could actually use the damn keys at the latter half of this wipe

icy knot
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Someone else's suggestions:

Golden Keys
Allow Golden Key to open all gold chests without being consumed

meager jasper
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I think they also just need to make them more common.

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It shouldn't be hundreds of pulls from a skeleton champion to get one for example. They're minibosses, give them a real reason to be farmed. And doing that will also drive their price down.

icy knot
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agreed

jolly leaf
grand mortar
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Buff Plasma Blast.

icy knot
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Don't you think Skeleton_Corpse_2 should have more interesting stuff to find in it. Doesn't this corpse represent a traveler from the past? Shouldn't he have something more intriguing, like a golden key? map 😏?

Are there other interesting containers that could hold such cool treasures, making people want to search for them?

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Buff me. Everything I play, specifically. kthx

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Maps are a good idea, even if they can only be found and used in-dungeon.

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# icy knot Don't you think [Skeleton_Corpse_2](https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com...

"I think it need a special item that you can only found in the dungeon. Like the scrap of a map or a compass who show an exit and the boss room on your map for exemple. You could drop them with a high drop rate on the Skeleton corpse you find on the ground pretty much everywhere (like it's an adventurer who start drawing a map and died) or with a lower drop rate on regular Skeleton monster." I've been saying that since they introduced Fog of war

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I would suggest "Covenant" style tasks for the Religion system like ganking rival religions and collecting a certain token off their corpse to turn in.

Each religion could also have some form of PvE focused item reclamation task as well that they focus on, rather than just be a gold sink. If you know what kind of thing a rival religion is after, it could make it easier to provoke fights by going to an area where that item is known to drop.

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I'm honestly surprised so many people even bothered with religion, the rewards just seemed terrible

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And yes, I'd rather not get into another protracted discussion, thanks.

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Uhuh.

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They're a blatant troll.

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Is there a server issue with larger maps? I think bigger maps could be an interesting direction to explore in the future, especially if there are more points of interest on them.

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cosmic narwhal
# meager jasper I don't care.

Clearly enough to respond, though
You can behave apathetic and rudly all you want towards me, simply hope you do not behave the same way towards your friends and family. They deserve better manners.

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Okay.

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Are you okay? Do you need a hug? Assuming you're not acting in bad faith, it seems like you might be a little fixated on me.

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Y'know, given I told you I didn't want to discuss with you and you keep responding to me.

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where do i report problems about the game. im seeing legendary armors and stuff in my inventory that has dex 3 on it and stuff when it should be 6

cosmic narwhal
# meager jasper Are you okay? Do you need a hug? Assuming you're not acting in bad faith, it see...

1: I`m great, thank you for asking.
2: I love hugs, so why not?
3: Sorry if my way of writting seemed disingenuous. I assure you, i'm not a troll. I've had simillar suspicions like that before in the Rogue..lobby? (not sure if you should call it a lobby or a server)
4: Not really fixated, simply responding to comments. If yours were response worthy, either they had good insights or a behaviour i personally disagree with. Your case..maybe both?

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thanks

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# meager jasper Y'know, given I told you I didn't want to discuss with you and you keep respondi...

Well, the first comments were simply eratic responses as i was reading waaayy after the convesation ended, so i wouldn't know of your lack of desire to engage in banter.

The final ones were simple comments to end the conversation, as i realized your animosity towards me and desired to not prolong it any further.
And regarding the "you keep responding", i would neve have mentioned your name again after your "okay".
You asked questions (haha, typo) , therefore i answered

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Don't worry I won't engage on the original topic, as a point of principle.