suggestion-discussion

[queen vector]

Please make the text pop-ups be click through, last much shorter amount of time, be disabled in settings

[real shuttle]

maybe bears shouldnt one shot everyone

[void yew]

Give 2 slots to f2p people trying the game shouldn't be punished for trying new classes (I own the game) a lot of my friends want to try other classes bc they don't want to lose stash. If I did play test and could only try one class I would have had a lot less fun and might not have bought the game.

[queen vector]

They've made some pretty good concessions for the Demo/F2P version of the game. It sounds like your friends are already enjoying the game and $35 isn't that much. Sounds like a purchase is justified

[worn lava]

yall didnt fix the servers it feels like call of duty lag switches people pulling

[upbeat sapphire]

Idk, I just have close to 1k hours without experiencing this. Must be doing something right 🤷 now go play rogue without stealth and let me know how it feels to be a mosquito

[void yew]

who are you to tell my friends how they feel?

[livid mason]

Whats this gymnastic lol. They can play a new class next wipe, Its just that shrimple.

[crude hill]

Pedro nice to meet you

[void yew]

Its happened before where gatekeeping people who feel entitled because they paid money before free to play came out in a game, new people are required to keep a game alive, no one will play this game forever and the population must be replaced, the game was on track to become niche before f2p came out now everyones watching it again. Providing a good experience to new players is more important than pandering to gatekeepers.

[crude hill]

Yeah 2 char for f2p its a good idea i like it

[livid mason]

F2P JP streamers who played the game for 2 hours bought it already. F2P is just an advertisement, they dont need to do that much more.

If they add more content in the paid version like arena then sure but if thats f2p as well then of course not, thats a good way of enticing players to buy the game to be competitive since 2 slots are enough as a f2p.
Most people run with a main and a side character, and that shouldnt be accessible to f2p in the first place.

[nocturne forge]

Regiiion Lock servers again FFS

HR in south amaerica its virtually impossible with people in full legendary bis and hitting you from miles away with 200+ MS

seems like every decision for HR is made to f**k the southamerican playerbase, every time is to leave BRasil serves in a worse condition

[livid mason]

People are region invading brasil? That sucks man

[nocturne forge]

Brasil doesnt have gear cap, so you enter in greens/blues and end up facing bullballs in full legendaries

sucks ass

[nocturne forge]

this, or re-add the GBMMR in Brasil, people are using our server to stomp people under 200gs

[livid mason]

thats seriously really bad

[frosty stump]

Its funny the second after I replied, I queued up on my cleric in PDR solo gobbo caves straight into a stealth landmine rogue kitted up. I killed him easily because I didn't walk into his landmine and was able to chase him. Its never a question of "if you catch the rogue out of stealth, do xyz" its about the counterplay to stealth and if there even is one. And if there is no counterplay, and i mean you even said idk, then why is something without counterplay that's just completely unfun a part of the game? Also idk how you never run into one in 1k hours unless you never touch solos

[upbeat sapphire]

Most of your deaths must be to rogues that "landmine" you to be this upset over it, lmao. The 5 second landmine

[slender crown]

• please fix the timer for the end of the round, sometimes it will activate like 10 seconds early and its so annoying, I was about to make it to the stairs before then getting frozen a few seconds early

[frosty stump]

I mean its had various ideations and apparently when I took a break rogue was actually at its weakest which is unfortunate. But yeah man, I'm good enough to the point where the only deaths that can upset me is something that I feel is out of my control. Why would I care if I died to something and I made mistakes in the fight? I'll just learn and get better. Again, what fun is it to die to something I can't hear/see that 3 pokes me? Give me counterplay

[upbeat sapphire]

If it's the only thing killing you, read up/play a bit of rogue to know how rogues try to set up kills, then you'll be unstoppable!

[river narwhal]

Not being able to equip attach a lantern to the 𝕃𝔸ℕ𝕋𝔼ℝℕ Shield feels kinda.... dumb. You add a shield to the game, with the purpose of it being able to have a lantern on it, and in the description it even says it has a lantern on it, yet.... THERE IS NO LANTERN ON IT

[slender crown]

• Not necessary but it might be cool to be able to smelt gold coins into gold bars and trade them back in for gold coins at the treasurer to further save gold, but then again i think thats too broken

[jolly leaf]

Press R when you have it in hand

[graceful frost]

the lantern is built in. press r when you have it out(make sure your not holding right click when trying to toggle the lantern)

[next solar]

i found a spelling error

[marsh aurora]

How do I make a suggestion?

Oh I see in the pinned messages

[arctic pike]

remove spiders

[nocturne forge]

regiiion lock servers ffs, Brasil servers are filled to the brim with NA players with 200+ ping a ton of gearscore, just to stomp players

[river narwhal]

OH MY GOD THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY

[lost tendon]

does nobody care about r m t in this game

[storm blade]

They do and have done alot of things to fight it but it's in every game now sadly

[vernal hedge]

It’s not that Brasil doesn’t have gearcap, there’s no gearcap anywhere except the sub 24gs normals

[deep cloud]

PLEASE add some sort of offline mode for practicing against enemies or something like that

[brisk jetty]

tbh i feel instead of giving demon form weapons make it to where using spells doesnt hurt you because well your a demon not human
and u can use spells in demon form so if you buff and get 5 shards when u go into demon it wont take the shards until you use a dark spell but it would still give the 5 in all attributes

[fast hinge]

Please make it possible to bring unique items that don't have stat buffs on health, armor or damage etc, and no weapons or armor of that grade of course but things like mystical gems are functionally useless to F2P players since we cant sell them on market for their real value nor can we take them in game it makes for a very demotivating experience

[foggy sun]

more emote slots

[upbeat apex]

just make it how it used to be before they gave it a weapon, it work just fine before.

[high marsh]

Please do smothing abaut matchmaking. This game needs more gear score brackets. If i equip one green item i get sweat lobby with 500gs sweats. Why let gs 25 and 525 even play on same server?

[tulip garnet]

Please fix cave troll having the biggest aggro issues in the game. As soon as someone steps into the cave troll room 9/10 times it changes aggro casuing the cave troll to scream and killing the initial player doing the boss.

[leaden gorge]

With the removal of the circle we had in the game BR style (change I love, it's really cool how it is right now, but effectively it reduces the funneling of players into the same area to create more PvP situations and chaos) I think it would be great if there was some sort of "event" that happens in the game that lures players into said events, effectively promoting (for those who want) PvP

Some examples:
Room X has chests that can't be opened until Y minutes
Room X has portal to teleport players to a new loot room (from loot room you have blue portal). Said teleport opens after defeatting PvE mobs (Skele champion, Wraith?) or after Y minutes

Effectively what I am looking for is a shared reason with other players who want to go into high risk / high reward situations, effectively leading to PvP. An example would be in Escape from Tarkov key rooms, where people rush those to get the loot inside.
Key rooms in tarkov have an issue, which is spawn distances + camping, which is why above in my ideas I suggest these events happen only after some minutes / after completion of clearing the PvE, to give everyone a chance to arrive regardless of spawn point

[delicate vine]

how about buying the game

[graceful frost]

you can't use them in normals anyway. Also aren't you still able to sell one on the market?

[proven totem]

Like some form of “hot zone” or a random event that will group players together, sounds good

[solar cedar]

please add toggle crouch, arthritis sucks

[buoyant saddle]

There 100+ videos how to fight and dodge, you can go on high roller with Base gear to learn or go on the same map for like 5 times and your goal is to rush the enemy you wanna train duos and Trio are mostly PVE lol and if you see a team you can just die

[nova mango]

how about a demonic weapon summon instead of using your own weapons with demonform? and while at it unfuck the demon form in general

[pearl dome]

Guys thoughts on this? https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/s/nRi7bD5DfL

A way to make nerfs and buffs a lot easier in my opinion

[fast hinge]

No you cant use them in normals and thats my whole point and you cant sell anything on the market place without owning the paid edition you just get this extremely valuable item that sells for crazy on the market place but merchants will give you like 100 gold for it and you cant use at all so you are pretty much getting cucked with your own loot

[fast hinge]

im poor with no job

[vernal hedge]

f2p can buy, not sell

[delicate vine]

then don't complain for a free game even if you don't have access to every feature

[fast hinge]

bro theirs no point to play if i cant use the loot i get

theirs no reason someone in normals shouldnt be able to have a goddamn luck buff

[delicate vine]

there is a big difference between "i cant use the loot i get" and "i cant use mystic gems golden keys and unique item"

[vernal hedge]

has a f2p you can do 80-90% of what the game offers, that a fucking better offer than most games

[delicate vine]

Yep, nowaday most PAID games don't give you access to 100% of the content

[fast hinge]

not the successful ones

[vernal hedge]

runescape? albion?

[delicate vine]

give me an exemple then, you can edit your message under mine to answer if you want

[fast hinge]

runescape is like 20 years old?

[vernal hedge]

and is pulling 120M$ a year unlike your broke ass

[fast hinge]

fortnite and apex have everything for free execpt skins and save the world

[delicate vine]

yep and what if i want to play save the world then? and apex agent are paid on release

[fast hinge]

To bad cause they dont sell it anymore\

[vernal hedge]

congratulations, you've just found out about 2 different business models!

[delicate vine]

I guess I'm feeding a trolling kid but you know there is a difference between what sacrifices a big triple AAA studio can do and the sacrifices a 10 dev studio can afford right

[vernal hedge]

but I want an heirloom without spending 100's of $ ina gacha mechanic wtf

[fast hinge]

games been out for years and 90% of the negative reviews are saying this but ok

[delicate vine]

Gimme a sec im'a cry on the apex discord to get my free heirloom skin 😦

[delicate vine]

What you on about, dnd as been on and f2p not even for a month, and before then it was public test which was 100% free

[fast hinge]

could say that about anything also you act like you making more than that either?

[fast hinge]

and no one complained in the playtests about shit like this cause they didnt have half the game tucked away

[delicate vine]

Are you on drugs, do you know peoples that have a jobs (for exemple iron mace devs) needs money to keep the game up / feed themselves right, do you want them to survive on the red shard nobody buys?

[vernal hedge]

you told me that successfull games provide all content for free, I said not and present 2 of the most consistent earners in the mmo scene, runescae for example locks like 90% of content behind a monthly fee

[fast hinge]

they gotta at least make it so people that dont pay for there game dont make way less gold and arnt able to use certain loot at all just cause they havent paid its not a good game mechanic at the end of the day

[fast hinge]

bro aint noone paying monthly for rune scape thats psyhcotic

[vernal hedge]

pay up or don't play, that so fucking entiteled, the devs better give me anything or else

[delicate vine]

Bro you seem like an unhinge kid, it's 30$ you will realise how dumb you sound when you will grow up, dont be entitled like that, go play a F2P if you want an F2P

[vernal hedge]

their numbers disagreed.....

[fast hinge]

no im just completely broke and getting a job for a 30$ game is dumb asf

[delicate vine]

Sadly he is just a kid and doesn't realise how entitled he sounds

[vernal hedge]

maybe you should get a job to improve your own situation, an not just a 30$ game, its like the thrd time you say you are broke and without a job

[delicate vine]

33% chance you are french (most of us, even adults, are entitled brats due to all the social help we have)
33% chance you are just a kid
33% chance you are trolling
1% chance you are actually a functionning adult

Pick your choice

[vernal hedge]

"33% chance you are french (most of us, even adults, are entitled brats due to all the social help we have)" that came out of nowhere

[delicate vine]

Little taunt at my own country 😄 we produce those brats by the dozen tbf

[fast hinge]

im a 18 year old that dropped out in 8th grade after not paying attention in anygrade and having horrible grades to getting my ged before anyone in my age group even graduated but ok

[delicate vine]

Still no job and no money :/, don't think you are bill gate lil bro

[fast hinge]

my bad i dont want to pay 30$ some gold and to use 3 items that youll barely ever touch

[vernal hedge]

im portuguese so we also have an issue with what we call "avec's" young pt people that go to france and comeback acting like an entiteled french not even speaking portuguese in their own country LUL

[delicate vine]

Yeah sorry for those, we got to deal with those everyday, even at actually decent paying job with decent barrier of entry for education we still got entitled kids

[vernal hedge]

discord is not the place for trauma dump, and if you want a piece of advice, be glad you at least had school until 8th grade and didnt have to work since a kid to support your parents 🙂

[fast hinge]

working as a kid is illegal?

[delicate vine]

Lil timmy discover that some people have to do "illegal" shit to survive, welcome in the real world, you won't see any of those cry for 10% of a game not being free

[vernal hedge]

21st century ina nutshell sadly

[fast hinge]

all ive said is my opinion and yall are just tryin to argue with me also not trauma dumping

[delicate vine]

Again we are not arguing with you, we are in the right we just want you to realise it, there is no debate when talking facts

We still waiting for that chimera of a game that is 100% free, popular, multiplayer, and updated weekly

[fast hinge]

so you thinking i should pay for the game is a fact not opioion?

[delicate vine]

I think that a full game with no ads should be paid yes and its a fact 🙂

[fast hinge]

THATS NOT THE DEF OF A FACT BRO

[delicate vine]

Back in the day (in france) we used to say "every labor deserve a pay"

Welp still waiting for a point to be made, for now we have you crying because you can't use a feature of the game that you don't even touch anyway, (your words not mine)

[vernal hedge]

if you want a full fledged game, with regular updates, with no p2w or Nikki Minaj skins, paying is the least

[delicate vine]

Let's make it easier for you to understand and relate to something you might understand.
Imagine you are getting a free sample of fries at the mall, but you prefer fries with ketchup and they don't provide the ketchup for free, it's 1€ per serving.
Would you cry to the shopkeeper for not giving you the ketchup aswell as the fries
Or just be happy the fries are free?

BTW before you ridicule yourself, answering anything else than I would be happy the fries are free IS entitlement

[fast hinge]

bro just go on steam reviews no one want this F2P model its not even worth playing with its current state?

[delicate vine]

Welcome on the internet, you give a hand to a kid he wants the arm, you give the arm he wants the full body, never ending cycle

[fast hinge]

if your gonna have a free game don't restrict them from as large of a feature as having more than 1 character and maybe the whole community wont hate on you

[delicate vine]

If you have time (which i don't doubt you have any lack off) could you elaborate on HOW they would make money if the game was 100% f2

[magic brook]

why is there a leaver penalty of 5 mins for exiting the lobby lmao, the penalty was losing my gear, i don't need to be put in a timeout for 5 mins like wtf

[fast hinge]

just to play a new character i have to do what is to you a new wipe things like that need much more balance for f2p

[vernal hedge]

the game is literally still climbing in review rating , at 74% as we speak

if its not worth playing, dont', because it clearly is for many people

and thats funny, im reading the negative reviews, dont really see poeple mentioning f2p as the problem, instead plenty of reviews complaning about how if they go with 26gs hey queue with 300gs chads

[fast hinge]

300gs chads just play undergear score and you cant prevent that? they gon just have to come up with a new system for that

most f2p players dont have over 100 hours so they just dont realize how usless them playing rn is yet?

[vernal hedge]

are you now complaining that even under 25gs youll just go against more experienced players but in default gear?^

and why is it useless for them to play?

[fast hinge]

no your just stupid the try hard will just use gear score under 24 to play against noobs to roll them thats not gonna get fixed without a new system

[vernal hedge]

fuck me, you really can tell you are a dropout, you cant type a coherent sentence and call other people stupid when they are saying the same thing has you

go back to school @fast hinge , games are too much for you to process

[fast hinge]

didnt ask honestly it dosent matter what ive said everyones just trying to argue so why should i care

[deft ore]

"The game is bad because I'm worse than other players"

What did he mean by this???

[vernal hedge]

I think he is trying to justify that him being bad is the games fault, and that the game should be fully f2p because he can't afford it

[fast hinge]

dosent matter what i think or say yall just gon turn it into your bad or entitled because you guys have problems in your lifes you cant solve so your taking it out on others online or sum either way dont care go f*ck yourselfs see ya never

[deft ore]

You're lucky Ironmace even graciously gifted you the opportunity to trip and fall flat on your face for free. Chew rocks

[fast hinge]

you mean graciously gifted me the opportunity to barely even play the game, its clearly p2w. have you even played the f2p version? cannot switch classes without deleting the entire character, got a crazy purple weapon? too bad, 80 coins max because your forced to sell it to a merchant instead of an actual player cause you're locked out of the trading post, balanced pvp? nope

[storm blade]

Most people just play normals. 90 percent of gear is not worth it past sell to merchant you have no idea what p2w means

[vernal hedge]

its not pay to win lmfao, its pay to play

theres 1 purchase that affects youre gameplay: the game, crazy right?

[next wagon]

buy the game 👍

[sleek temple]

Such a amazing expirience is that game you wear one green thing and you play on purple lobbys XD balanced af 😄 it is such balanced that my friend say he fuck this game if it looks like this and he really like that game before so amazing work ironamce this game dont have such sense now because in game where loot do amazing difference in pvp you bald guy with only green shoes have purple/ blue lobbies XD unplayable junk

[quasi sparrow]

A wand that doesnt do damage to players but dmgs pve, upon dmg you regenerate spells slowly. would fix the problem wizards have with sitting down & clearing mobs

[past geyser]

Would love to see a auto-fill option for gold and gold bags! ❤️

[violet plinth]

Damn, who's telling 'em that most players that were stacked and geared way back didn't have the Marketplace at all.

[odd halo]

Remove plate armor from Cleric

[magic brook]

remove bows from ranger

[versed trellis]

if you go into normal solos with full purple and legendary an automatic call should be placed to SWAT your house

[sonic pendant]

If you're new here, you should leave this channel before it blackens your soul. There is nothing of the light here.

[cunning jetty]

There's people bringing some blue gear in under 25 GS lobbies, everyone else was full gray gear I bring a green potion or green boots and I get placed in fully geared lobbies, these people are exploiting the matchmaking system somehow.

[sand wasp]

You can bring a purple lute to beat the piss out of ppl in sub 25

[sage oyster]

There is a tiny rock on the floor of Troll room near the center, could we please smooth that out please.

[maiden topaz]

Raids are WAY TOO SHORT. ESPECIALLY in HR when it's harder to clear mobs. Give us time to loot more than one module ffs

[forest hearth]

tell us you struggle with pve without saying you struggle with pve lmao

[real shuttle]

please please ad a trashcan or something in the stash i keep having to sell stuff to get rid of it even thought its worthless

also if we have the rations thing on ranger the moldy bread should restock it

[midnight summit]

Green potions are worth a surprising amount. Usually you can run 1 single piece of green armor without going past 24 gear score, but that also depends on what utility you bring

[cunning jetty]

Yeah, I just tested and the timmy lobbies are 24 or lower, not 25 or lower like the Squire says and the patch notes say, I could not find where they changed this or made it explicit that it is now 24 or lower

[unique seal]

🙏 Crystal Mastery for Wizard please lettuce equip both the sword and the ball

[worn lava]

change the automatically switching server region when joining someone most people don't realize when you join another's group and leave your region is automatically switched I'm us east but if i join someone and they are running Oceania Sydney my region automatically changes to that and if i start a group with other people and don't change it back im put in dead lobbies

[midnight summit]

Nothing changed it was always like that, 25+ has been high bracket since they put gear score into norms

[prisma fable]

Could you nerf dreamwalk Perk from Druid? This is so insane, during 5s u are immune and only 12s cd.. If you run as rat u get it again.. nerf time or coldown.. Really so unfair class.. Disbalanced

[wicked leaf]

Once again they are not clear with what they are doing. They need to know how to be clear and be understood.

[marsh crow]

@keen onyx so uh, actual question but when we gana get some wizard buffs

[opaque umbra]

When a match crashes on the servers end and it is impossible to reconnect to it, it would be appreciated if the goblin merchant would offer all of the lost kit back for free for a reasonable amount of time.

I say this as it literally happened to me earlier, and I was not a fan of the experience 🙂

[tawdry spoke]

Bring back free high roller or make it 50g

[prisma fable]

Make a gear score ranges matchmaking for example: 0 - 24 grey items, 24 - 200 green and blue items ( uncommon and rare ), 200 + no limit (epic, legends items ). It make a balance on gameplay. To be fun

[somber wind]

But that'll just make it so killing players wont reward gear you care about. You cant out skill someone for better gear :\

[lapis widget]

add more shapeshift forms for druid, shapeshift memory 2 is currently useless bc there's only 5 shapeshift forms

[tender yew]

Here's a fact: The Romans used urine as a cleaning agent. They believed that the ammonia in urine could whiten their teeth, clean their clothes, and even act as a mouthwash. They would collect urine from public urinals for these purposes. Additionally, urine was also used in the tanning industry to help soften leather. So, in ancient Rome, urine was quite a versatile substance!

[scenic ferry]

get your piss stinking breath out of here 😠

[sacred osprey]

man i miss white lobbies or bring a better gbmm

[scenic ferry]

they still exsists

read squire popups

[sacred osprey]

Yeah thats for f2p lobbies and i still dont think it works properly either...They should def add GBMM to Hr or a better ranking system

[scenic ferry]

huh?
GBMM?

it kinda defeat purpuse of gear >.< if you want to balance the game around gear i'd make the crappy gear better and nerf the legendary gear.

if you have gray gear going againts purple sucks don't seperate them but make the gear more balanced or just accept it and buy couple of blues and purples.

it would also fix some classes being good with crappy gear and some needing good gear to be viable.

imo any class with any gear should have fighting chance againts someone with gear 2 quailities higher.

[sacred osprey]

huh? Nah i said what i said hahahah

[scenic ferry]

just play normals m8

[sweet carbon]

Can we get a seperate color on names of people who are new here ? (1-2 months old) so we can clearly see if the guy trying to join is a newbie or not. Very annoying losing gear cause of this

[stark stratus]

kay rookie. its so funny seeing all of u guys complain about this stuff. just get better at the game thats all.

[vital wasp]

CAn we get a karma system on discord? also, something with warning or reviews channel

[limber elbow]

The gear score mode is pretty good, but putting people with a total gear score of 100 together with people with a score of 300 or 500 is almost like gray gear beating purple gear.

[quick rivet]

a system where bard doesnt waste 4 ut slots on instruments

[dusky ingot]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563072/better-wyvern-queueing
this quest is fucking terrible

[crude hill]

make tavern (pre match) a place to find people to kill wyvern by letting people enter the dungeon when they want, if you want to enter the dungeon 3 minutes later than the rest of players because you were looking for a partner/aliance in that lobby let them do it, just take in consideration that the time keeps running and maybe you enter the dungeon when is emty or ending https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563100/take-this-idea-also-in-count-for-the-upcoming-social-pre-lobby

[placid garden]

I absolutely support implementing a social hub in this game similar to games like Destiny/Warframe etc

[dusky ingot]

we need wyvern changes this shit is not it
the devs were not cooking at all

[placid garden]

I mean we can have both

[dusky ingot]

i have spent over 17 hours trying to do this shitty boss fight bruh

[placid garden]

I'm not arguing against you. I havent even made it to Wyvern yet, but agree it seems way overtuned

[dusky ingot]

the hard part is getting into the same lobby as your pre team buddies
random players do not cut it for the boss

[placid garden]

Well I mean it should have been tuned for 3 people in the first place.

Or matchmaking needs a rework for "raid" style bosses

[crude hill]

i dont like pre-teaming, encourage people to help you is more fun and make games more unique

[dusky ingot]

not to be that guy
but random players in the dungeon fucking suck at the game

[crude hill]

yeah and are difficult to find

[dusky ingot]

everytime iv tried with randoms they die before making out of abyss spawn room

[crude hill]

of course, they are probably steam's noobs, they will improve but for now maybe giving you the posibility and time of teaming with the more geared guys of the match before having to random encounter them in the hostile dungeon where people doesnt talk is a small fix

[placid garden]

Please allow Clerics to use two handed swords

[crude hill]

btw devs said that they are working on a reworked more social tavern #📢announcements message but i still think that those who you see in the tavern with you should be the ones that will enter the same game than you

[dusky ingot]

clerics can currently only use "blunt" weapons because in dungeons and dragons they use blunt weapons to not induce blood loss (ignore the morning star spikes)

[crude hill]

what cleric have you seen?, maybe what you want is a paladin

[crude hill]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563100/take-this-idea-also-in-count-for-the-upcoming-social-pre-lobby

[placid garden]

That is exactly what I want, but theres been no news on Paladin since i think Sorcerer and Monk are next

[placid garden]

Weapon restrictions were removed in the third edition of dungeons and dragons. Blunt weapons are more of an iconic choice and also because undead in dungeons and dragons take addditional blunt weapon damage

[crude hill]

i still think that a cleric with a dual handed sword is not really a cleric but maybe im wrong

[dusky ingot]

well fuk you dark and darker is based on what sdf has seen that week
because if you look at the wyvern fight its literally just a world of warcraft raid boss, but without the queueing system

[crude hill]

i think that is a good reference for this game, wow have many cool things, and they share a lot of systems like dark and darker: PvPvE, character progression, bosses, etc

[dusky ingot]

tell sdf to add a fucking queueing system already
the dragon is killing me

[crude hill]

xd

i hate team finders in mmo removes social part of the game

[placid garden]

More of a Paladin thing since Paladins are martial half casters

Clerics get acceas to more spells than Paladins do. Paladins defining feature is modifying their attacks with smite, auras and lay on hands as a melee heal

[unreal barn]

Wasnt wizard just buffed? Why do you need more?

[crude hill]

i love the approach of wizards in dragons dogma, long casting spells with giant power, they are so self destructive

[sonic carbon]

fix hr matchmaking

[remote whale]

knockback spell for wizard or more different traps for ranger like a bleed/posion trap or an oil trap that makes floor slippery and allows torches to burn it

[formal maple]

devs should add when you go to marketplace > my listings left click specific item to sell and click view market , the item selected is displayed on market and its rarity and additional stats are automatically searched (that would be very nice) 😀

[remote whale]

bulk buying and loadouts

[scenic ferry]

devs should make API that allows you to read your stash and manage it and search trade auction and make trade for you with merchants or players.

and let the comunity do the rest >.<

[nocturne forge]

im here again to request GBMM + regiiion lock... the ammount of NA players invading BR servers on full epics/legend bis is stupid

[scenic ferry]

doesn't GBMM already exsist in form of -25gs normals?

[scenic ferry]

how do you know they are NA?
you want to make the game worse because NA players are better then BR?

[nocturne forge]

they are lagged AF and shouting slurs in VOIP

[nocturne forge]

also how is asking people to not abuse the ping leeway by playing on their respective servers is making the game worse?

[tacit oriole]

Does anyone here know a way to help stop rubberbandiing. It drives me nuts

[scenic ferry]

switch to cable from wifi

[tacit oriole]

im ethernet

[scenic ferry]

rubberbanding is usualy caused because your connection to the game servers is slow.
are you using vpn?

[tacit oriole]

no. Should I?

[scenic ferry]

you shoudn't

have you tried interent upload/download tester? its like a website that tests your internet

[chrome gale]

When lich gains a shield and consumes soul of a player makes player unable to be revived because soul was consumed

Wraiths spawn deathskulls that drop no loot ghost king spawns wraiths instead of deathskulls

[brazen token]

You know what this game needs? More "im invulnerable to melee classes as soon as they actually get within attack range of a class who already gets every other advantage in the game."

[tardy sparrow]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563186/bong-hit-emote

[sour pollen]

I think a really cool feature for when your actually in the dungeon exploring would be to have a little journal "J" where it whips out like the spellbook and has your quests on it. Have the ones that are done scribbled or x'd out or checked where the ones not complete obviously don't.

[iron fiber]

flat "additional movement speed" and percentile "move speed bonus" are essentially the same thing since move speed bonus calculates off of the base 300 MS, meaning 1% move speed bonus is always the same as 3 additional movement speed so either make all of it flat or apply percentages after all the flat values

[sharp wave]

Can we remove friendly fire when it comes to treants and teammates? I don't necessarily care if the treant can damage the caster but its a bit annoying when it kills a teammate because I can't control its movements

[clever hollow]

Shield Slam is so bad. It's hit box isn't consistent. It feels like no one is testing this skill as it's ''bad''. It's not responsive to input. Mobs will clip through the shield and not connect with them. It's so useless why is it in the game? Maybe remove it until it's buffed? Even in pvp it wiffs through opponents. You can see their model through the shield after a hit but it doesn't connect.

[zenith wave]

This new end game mechanic is actually killing it. I don't feel SO rushed but have to keep my wits about time. Its such a great new balance to the game.

[fair kite]

Agreed, it should be an outward bash with the flat surface, not a weird punch

[faint onyx]

good to see warlock magical healing is still completely busted after nerf

[uneven thunder]

Ironmace should add cc or gap close to every class, eliminating the necessity for movement speed stacking.

[civic zodiac]

Rework warlock. Being a barb and fighting no skill kids that just spamm dot and phantomise away as soon they get in trouble is just lame. There should be a counter and not just say fuck its warlock better just crush my way out and find someone else.

[exotic mantle]

I think it would make a lot of sense to add cone spells to wizard, right now the damage options feel very lacking. Thunderwave with knockback, aoe channel spells, maybe even options to make teamates immune to AoE evocation spells with a perk (like d&d) - the class feels very uninspired in its current state. No movement options beyond haste or invis, feels strange to play wizard in this game as it currently is. Even magic missles could be completely reworked to channel like clerics Judgement and do much less damage - it seems like its in a constant state of balancing due to being a departure from what its inspired by. Just some thoughts.

[solemn needle]

Please make that if you unequip all chest&pants you start getting environmental damage

[upper sonnet]

Hopefully the Ice attacks the mobs in the Ice Abyss have are testing for new Ice spells for Wizzy 🙏

[uneven thunder]

I suggest Ironmace rework the AP gain system by lowering all current gains significantly and adding special big AP rewarding items called idols. Idols should spawn at a fixed location making people contest for them. Along side this, raid timer should be increased and extracts, when available, should be activated, alerting nearby players of extraction.

[brazen token]

Haven't you realized? The devs don't care that phantomize gimps physical-only classes, barbarian most of all since they lack any sort of counter or ranged power aside from endlessly-nerfed frannies. They only care about what cool shit they can give warlock, the no-resource infinite self-healing can-fight-at-all-ranges class, so that even more people play it.

[foggy sun]

add more emote slots

[magic brook]

they need to make the inferno level stairs open immediately, not open after 10 mins

[civic zodiac]

If they didnt remove phantomise before arena enter there gonna be so much hate that would be unbearable. Duo.warlock that just put dot and flee away untill the victim die... Warlock is only used by noskill players that dont wanna fight its so wrong

[red shuttle]

I experienced a bug where right clicking or shift-right clicking while looting a chest drops the item at my feet instead of moving it to my empty inventory. left clicking and dragging still worked though.

[drifting quartz]

alt tab fixes that @red shuttle iirc

[hybrid flower]

希望遊戲中的地圖能夠加入隊友的位置。

I hope the game maps can include the positions of teammates.

게임 맵에 팀원의 위치를 표시할 수 있으면 좋겠습니다.

ゲームのマップにチームメイトの位置を追加してほしいです。

[jolly leaf]

So you wait 10 min in the waiting room? Being safe from any fight?

[magic brook]

No it should just TP you straight into inferno or something idk

Or just have inferno be a separate map idk. They could implement something along those lines a million different ways. I just hate having to wait 15-20 mins just to get to the inferno lvl

[jolly leaf]

Well they're things to do in Crypt. Inferno is meant to be a second floor, that's how the game work. I don't know what tl tell you, you're asking to change a core thing of the game and for what? Not having to wait/take risk in Crypt? To go kill boss faster?

[magic brook]

Nah it’s just a pain to do the inferno quests for tailor

Spent so many hours learning to fight the enemies and trying to do the quests. Haven’t even attempted the boss yet lol

And crypt is the worst map in my opinion. Super dark everywhere, narrow hallways, just overall not a fan of crypt.

[dusky ingot]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563072/better-wyvern-queueing
upvote pls

[naive thicket]

Suggestion: Make race skins apply male/female voice overs respectively

[lapis shuttle]

Suggestion: Add a receipt menu so we can see what we've purchased on the market and their prices

[red kite]

Make the Druid's rat form just big enough to not be able to fit through door windows

[unreal shard]

Suggestion: Some kind of ingame Ui to keep track of quests, and possibly a small notification when you do a step in one of them while in a dungeon. and possibly a quest tab in main menu so we don't have to click to all merchants.

[pastel saffron]

lockpicks should be able to be made with silver ingots instead of iron so they are easier to get for new players

[paper venture]

they should be made with all the ore types and get bonas based on what is used.

[chrome gale]

make it so hydra and trent cast fails if spawns on player because of bugg that makes player suck as a 2 second cc min depending on weapon

[paper venture]

100% agree they are exploiting it.

The ragdoll physics are not replicating to clients, making for frustrating conversations telling people where bodies are... there are several simple ways to replicate bone position and actor location in unreal. Even plugins that can be added at the base character level that can be set to replicate the required variables only on skeletal mesh simulation, it can be set for instance to only rep if moving, so the last updated position is always the same on all clients, absolutely essential for a game like this.

[burnt mirage]

I really feel like the targetted class quests should be removed or given an alternative objective. It's the only thing the player has no control over. We can't decide what other players are joining the lobby as, and if you need a specific kill on a specific class but that class never matchmakes with you, you end up getting blocked on completing a quest.

All the other quests allow the player to complete it on their own merits, but quests that require you to kill a specific class are just lame and remove player agency.

[unborn terrace]

and it used to be worse. you used to have to kill them on certain maps iirc

[burnt mirage]

yeah, it should either have (Kill 1 bard or kill 10 players) that way if you get unlucky with matchmaking, at least you'll eventually complete the quest.

[unborn terrace]

i still have yet to kill a bard. i could have easily but he was chill with me pregame lobby and then i felt bad killing him. so i healed him to full, dropped a potion and left him. still looking for another lol

[burnt mirage]

funny enough, I got lucky killing my bard after not finding one forever, then I get 2-3 more bard kills randomly. It's absurd. The issue is that it removes player agency, and the quest is blocking other EXTREMELY easy quests that would already got me my improved squire.

[placid garden]

Can we get a public roadmap?

[alpine bramble]

do druids scale with magic healing
?

[cedar hornet]

‼️ ‼️ @keen onyx Why does Eldritch Shield use the Shards without any benefit? change the type of that spell from dark magic plz

[golden prism]

Let me sit in the chairs in the tavern god dammit!

[copper rapids]

Please nerf rogues, it's bullshit that they have an auto win no brain tactic. Hear Steps -> Go Invis -> Stab Twice -> Profit. Take their invis out and make them gain their bonus from being in darkness. Invis is bullshit.

[nocturne phoenix]

a barb calling anyone else noskill lmao

[civic zodiac]

Barb dont need to flee to win, they fight or die.

[gaunt iron]

it would be nice if there a way to do a limited PvE map, that you cannot get loot, AP, or die in. Like the bsaement of the Tavern lounge in-game, but can enter it without specifically be waiting for a match to start. And also have it stay online like a match in progress, for when the servers go down. So players have a way to playtest builds against a targeting dummy or seomthing

[eternal berry]

Please allow clerics to wield longswords! Or release paladin class or please allow subclasses!

[limber elbow]

The update to buy 3 potions or 3 bandages is extremely good because it saves time, so why not update to be able to buy money bags up to x10 or x20 instead of clicking on each bag and sometimes having errors having to click 4-5 times to buy 2 gold coin purses

[crude hill]

i think sub clases are based on your perks/skills so there is subclases already

[placid garden]

100% this

[eternal berry]

Yeah I see what you mean. I guess more or so I’m asking for clerics to have the option for sword mastery or just release a paladin class lol

[steep willow]

I have suggestion for druid - he can use a rat only for 20 second and he back to human form

[crude hill]

nah your killing the fun

[ruby solar]

Suggestion for bard - A cosmetic for the songs to change the sound of a song but not the buff it provides. Maybe different song cosmetics can appear in shop during specific holidays or events.

[marble sentinel]

Druids have 0 magical healing scaling whats the point of giving them a staff with it if the stat is useless ?

[grizzled falcon]

dreamfire scales with it iirc, and I think the healing aura

[crude hill]

now that we have more freedom to decide if starting a fight or run away because there is no circle, can we remove duos and solos? playing solo in trio maps is much worst because 100% of times you will encounter a full party

[uneven rain]

so dont play solo in the trio maps, wait 3 minutes?

[crude hill]

is not for the maps

[rugged tinsel]

Add quest list in game because I have terrible memory

[crude hill]

i play solo/duo/trios (depends on if my friends were connected) vs trios in all maps since first playtests even when map rotation wasnt a thing and it was the best way of playing the game

But now players are scared of joining lobbies where teams have more players than them because there is an escape (solo and duo matchmaking) and because in the past when the circle was small there were no counterplays other than facing a full party in a fight.

[magic brook]

there is a quest tab in main menu

on the lobby tab, there's a quest log button, bottom right

[crude hill]

Now you have a lot of options, you can:
-Running away from a team is more consistent.
-Go to an exit since they are not random anymore is more consistent.
-Prepare an ambush in a bottle neck without the circle forcing you to go for them.
-Use VoiP to talk with them and calm the situation or cooperate since now people is more open to this kind of things.
-Of course you can still try to fight them 1/2/3 vs 3.

Back in the previous patches your best option were:
-Having the luck to find a random portal.
-Having the luck that they were running from circle and you have a better position.
-Having the luck that they were worst players or you have much better gear.

And for those who were learning i think the 25 gear score layer also solves it without losing the best way to play the game

Also in a Dark and Darker where devs encourage players to coop like in the frost mountain this numeric disadvantage disappears.
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563473/remove-duo-and-solo-matchmaking

[maiden topaz]

DAILY REMINDER TO INCREASE THE MAP TIMES

[crude hill]

agree just a little bit more time would be great

[lunar narwhal]

BUMP UP THOSE RAID TIMERS BOYS!!! WE GOT ROOMS TO MILK!

[prisma fable]

exactly.. I discuss it to change on ranges to be more fair.

[fresh mica]

That's already a thing though? Bottom right if the screen when you're about to join a match there's some icons, one is "quest log"

[jolly leaf]

Yes but he want one in game, like inside the dungeon

[fresh mica]

Oh like a pop down?

[jolly leaf]

Yes to see directly how many kobold ear you need etc etc while in frost cavern

[fresh mica]

Ahhhh if that would be a quality of life addition

[lunar narwhal]

suggestion: make the game not run like hot ass cheeks in the middle of summer

[proud sigil]

Change crystal sword to one handed

[lapis shuttle]

Remove Phantomize

[wraith galleon]

still getting stuck on level 2 in room with all the demon bats in the low middle by portals, loose everything for no reason

[wispy night]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563484/druid-shapeshift-wheel-grey-out-when-unavailable-or-no-room anyone wanna show some support for druids when we're not able to shapeshift, the wheel shows what forms are not available?

[civic zodiac]

[phone]

[lapis shuttle]

My guyyyyyy

[civic zodiac]

Warlock gameplay is so lame to.play against

[lapis shuttle]

People argue that you can outplay them and you just shouldn't take bad fights, but that's applicable for every class in the game. Warlock mains keep coping, ignoring the fact that's it's a no skill get out of jail free card in any situation

[civic zodiac]

Sure. Outplay a class that just flee and place dot and if u manage to outplay they get a free out of jail card. Especially barbarian have no way to even fight lock its just so wrong

Either remove phantomise or give barbarian a ranged weapon and remove lock op healing. Only fix

[safe rune]

Damn I want them to make seasonal AP rewards based on max rank rather than current rank... Since its based on current rank lots of people will just stop playing HR once they hit their desired rank so that they wont lose it, and its kinda dumb

[hearty bough]

I CANNOT wait for the paladin to get released! I'm playing as a frontline cleric but it doesn't feel right, there's something missing

[flat barn]

Paladin hasn't been announced the 2 classes that have been announced will probably be a year so you have some waiting

[west furnace]

🇸 🇺 🇲 🇲 🇪 🇷 ❤️ 🇸 🇪 🇱 🇱 ❤️ 🇼 🇭 🇪 🇳 ❔

[sturdy tapir]

that's a great idea . hopefully the devs listen/care. as it would be an chance for many ppl to buy the game since the devs seem to not want regional pricing,

[feral plinth]

Are these idiots going to make magic protection potions actually craftable anytime soon or is everyone just going to suffer once the quest potions run out?

[formal maple]

remove touching

[stoic ginkgo]

Make quests account wide, it's not very fun having to grind the same "Kill 15 zombies in goblin caves" on 3 different classes. Can't imagine how people who love playing more than 3 classes do it.

[remote whale]

add banana into gaem to throw at monkey in ice cave

[strong portal]

Has a cycle interaction button been considered by this bunch?

i.e. torch underneath mob corpse for example

[obsidian lichen]

Suggestion!!!

Make it possible to use Soul Hearts instead of teaming with people to activate the wyvern. I think that would be amazing and a cool way to allow people to truly solo the wyvern, and a proper challenge to the community.

Please make it happen IM!!

[charred fossil]

is there any possibillity to break ice other than mage fireball or Barb ?

[burnt mirage]

they are craftable

Edit: Oh wait, those REQUIRE magic protection potions to even make, wow never noticed that.

[vernal hedge]

Time to learn how to fight demon bats no?

Most people when they were new players hated that room, that’s just until you learn to fight them, or bait them into rooms

[native oriole]

more of a discord suggestion but make it so afk people in calls get disconnected or make it so people can create their own call because theirs not a lot of channels and half of them are being hogged by people who arent even at their pc or playing dnd

[brazen token]

Invulnerability, physical or otherwise, doesn't belong in a game like this. Kindly remove it. Thank you.

[jolly leaf]

Ranger with windlass crossbow, hellfire of Warlock should work too

[median peak]

for the love of god change quests that require random locations/bosses to spawn. trying to kill ghost king but im not even joking 20 games in a row its 80% warlord 20% lich 0% ghost king this is so frustrating and not fun at all.

[maiden topaz]

Daily suggestion to make the raids 3 minutes longer

[quiet mesa]

I don't get why the quests require so much intense exploration when it's the first or second quest.

It wants gold? Apparently you can only get it by defeating both bosses in goblin caves.

I'd like if the quests had a progression to help push in certain directions, or even just have the merchant tell you where you can snag some

What's even the point of questing if it's mostly for doing stuff only veterans know of and know how to do

[eternal berry]

What’s the two classes announced? Sorcerer and what?

[eternal berry]

They switched the gold quest to gold bars. So now you can just buy them off marketplace or buy gold ore and then craft into bars instead of having to kill bosses

[quiet mesa]

It's a quest, and I want to go questing in the dungeons and do something achievable when I receive the quest.

If they're just gonna make it solvable with money why not just have him ask for like 600 gold to make gold ingots himself, at least so I'm not getting fleeced by my fellow players on the market.

[flat barn]

Monk

[eternal berry]

Ah yeah that makes sense what’s so fun about spending money to get past a quest.

[quiet mesa]

Yeah, I drafted up a post on the suggestion site.

Another one that bothered me is the quest for rare weapons. There's so few in norms, that it feels like it wants me to do high roller. At least when I started a couple weeks ago, I didn't have the money or gear to give high roller a fair shake, and I don't even think I was level 20 for it.

Having it be green weapons would make it a lot more reasonable to accomplish and give momentum to push to harder questing

I get the design considerations to make a lot of friction so it feels better to accomplish it, but the rare weapon drops are just rng and the gold ore thing is just a knowledge check newbies can't accomplish. There's not a challenge being imposed on the player or incentives being given.

I do like the kill quests, the progression from pve quests to PVP quests were super cool and nice progression to go from surviving mobs well to tackling the greatest game (players)

[clever hollow]

The current PVP meta is so full of cowardice and it's p.lame. Meta is run away after doing a tap, then doing it again. There's no throwdown fights. Even for melee. It's tap and run. Thus making MS the king of all stats for all classes. It makes for very boring and unengaging gameplay when it comes to pvp. MS is too much of a king stat. Everything revolves around it. Would be nice to see people care about other stats.

[soft acorn]

When druid and bard nerfs?

[fervent fern]

for real druid is so broken and bard need a lil nerf too

[wheat nacelle]

I would love to see the waiting time for crafting removed.. I am mass crafting the Lockpicks and always have to change characters for no reason. I also don't see any reason in waiting for me to craft many cobalt things or anything else. TBH it would be better if you could craft as much as you want its not like you can see what it will be anyway

[fervent fern]

Thoses bear druid stack str with max health with blue gear and literaly 2 tap me with a fighter 60% pdr then just insta run away I mean cmon man.

[wheat nacelle]

and I also know that this was not the case in the past.

[marble sentinel]

give people the ability to block people so we dont constantly see spam in gathering hall and trade chat

[open wigeon]

fighter suggestion, would giving victory strike a large action speed boost (like 30%+) for 1 swing make it viable? keep in mind its competing with sprint and second wind. Could make 2 handed weapons more viable too

[edgy sand]

bard needs new skills man something thats useable instead of second music memory. maybe something like wizards arcane shield or maybe something that allows next song to apply to everyone instead of just performer, maybe 30 seconds of silent songs anything thats not dissonance lol

[clever hollow]

Match making should be based off of the total value of the gear brought by the party. Instead of the current 0-24 item levels. Get the total value of the gear brought. Balance match making and item values.

[forest hearth]

maybe a skill that increases the aoe of songs?

[jolly leaf]

Or something that make the next buff more powerful but last less long, something like that

[deep laurel]

What about dropping the HP depletion rate from 3% to 2 for blood pact. It's just so high you get 6 good seconds before having to turn it off again. That's including weapon swap. It definitely needed balancing but it's unusable now.

[glacial sphinx]

Add some passive spell count recovery. Drop magic resistance on monsters by 15% and nerf Hellfire to 50 dmg/sec. Make spellcasting in PVE a thing for spellcasters.

[jolly leaf]

Reduce the magic resistance of monster is the good way imo. But the passive spell count recovery would be to strong imo and would benefit too much in PvP (That's what the Clarity potion was doing in the past and it was too strong)

[glacial sphinx]

It would be much slower than clarity, something like 20% of sitting down perhaps. Just so you can cast a bit every now and then without sitting. You're playing a spellcaster after all currently you are forced to melee everything

Something that barely matters in individual engagements but adds up meaningfully over a full run

[jolly leaf]

As a perk why not. But yeah the wizard is not balanced for Solo PvE. The game is balanced for trio only

[glacial sphinx]

I dont think the game should be balanced for trios only. The pvp can be mostly balanced around that but this change would barely affect pvp. It's aimed at PVE

[jolly leaf]

Maybe instead of passiv spell recovery a Perk that regen x% of the spell that is selected every few sec (So it not too powerful for zap and low lvl spell like that)

[jolly leaf]

Well the game was meant to be trio only (And it was at the beginning, then they added Solo, then later Duo). And it would be really difficult to balance thing for each party size / would take way too much dev time

[glacial sphinx]

I dont think it should be a perk, I think it should be baseline for every spell count caster. You would get a zap back in like 60 seconds or so, MM in like 90 seconds the impact would be quite limited in individual engagements.

[jolly leaf]

Ok but if it's that slow it's almost useless. You need almost all your zap to kill a random mob. On zap every minute is not worth better just sit for a few second. I don't know what would be a good in between. I think a perk is a good idea, maybe simply something that fasten the spell recharge when you sit (Like 5% every 2 sec in addition to your spell recovery)

[glacial sphinx]

I dont think thats too slow, along with the MR change over a map duration it gives you like 8-10 casts of all your spells and they do more. Thats about 1.5-2 campfires worth

[worn island]

crashing after clicking redeem reward? new didn't know

[daring spire]

Wasn't there supposed to be a patch today or am I wrong?

[wicked leaf]

PLEASE,

Localise price! 30US$ is too expensive for other currencies

[glacial sphinx]

How much are localized prices usually in your country, in dollars?

[still tulip]

i feel like there should be a way to check your teams gear score before entering game. I had 3 games in a row where 2 of us agreed on -25 and one player was decked out, killing the run for the other 2

[jolly leaf]

Yep, imo you should see the highest gear score of the team right next to the "Start" button

[granite plinth]

Please add a trial or training mode where we can practice the bosses mechanics (At least the normal pattern), its ok if it does not give EXP or Drop. Even works if it is just for solo mode

[worn lava]

as you devs make more classes and put more time into them pls don't forget about the old classes the first ones in the game they still have plenty of room for new spells and perks and skills your making druid this awesome cool class the next class yall drop probably will be amazing with new things we haven't seen yet and i don't wanna feel my wiz class left out of that coolness

[worn lava]

if alot of people hate hr and rather do norm and if your having dead lobbies why don't you just remove hr combine hr and norm no more dead lobbies i personally don't care for hr even if you have a higher chance at named weapons better loot off mobs its not fun in my opinion farming bosses kills the brain to do it over and over so boring

[inland raft]

Please make the layout of inferno more varied.. 6/6 was the same one

[soft acorn]

so many cheaters on solo highroller

[worn lava]

in anime when you have adventurers going into dungeons usually in the anime they have camps set up deeper in the dungeons to resupply so wouldn't it make sense when going to hell or in the ice abyss to have a camp to resupply pots or change skills and perks to pve ones to better help kill bosses in between the shift of going down in the waiting room because unless your strictly hiding to pve or meming running around with pve stuff nobody equips them it would make a more comfortable way of life and it would make sense that perk that reduces damage from mobs i mean who uses it so my point has some weight behind it i think its a good change

[worn lava]

druid has so many escape tactics i think all classes should get something that allows them to disengage from the fight push a person off of you could make it a unique thing for every class a rogue could do a shadow step back they turn into a shadow a mist form and it automatically takes them a step back and it has a cooldown so they cant just keep doing it and wizard gets a teleport animation that takes them a step back and this could be an automatic thing or maybe a button you push on the keyboard and cooldown after

[charred fossil]

hello what means rmb in the market

[next prism]

I think ranger suffer too much of sneaky engage on solo. I think back step should give a burst of attack speed or a "next attack gain attack speed" buff to truely synergise with crippling shot and thus giving ranger a bit more surviability and making back step more than a meme.
Maybe with a cooldown nerf tho

[restive pelican]

in anime is a crazy way to start a conversation

[restive pelican]

burnt take

[tardy vector]

Troll and Cyclops should not lose aggro from person fighting him because someone opens a door, or enters room(Aggro in general needs some work) how bout allowing them to not reset(hp) even if the player is killed or leaves room. if im on the other side of a wall or door ai should not be able to hit me. Druid and Warlock are far advanced classes(Design, dmg, skill expression) than the others. buff the rest of the classes so they can better contend aswell as improving design ect, Wizard id like to see get a flash/blink/leap spell movement/teleport , GustWind knockback, Aoe Pool of Acid(like centipedes} magic lock should be made to also unlock doors/chests, A summon Imp/familiar/Invisible swordsman/golem spell, Meteor( ie designed with Ligntning strike cast But drops a fireball) Ranger buff Backstep to maybe be able to pull out weapon for a quick stab too only paired with spear ie, perk or skill that does a poison DoT/exploding shot for perk maybe like the first or last arrow shot after a reload ect, Fighter A dodge roll, Kick to interupt/silence Buff Victory strike maybe add a Bleed effect too it, remove on kill and make on hit for health bonus and reduce to 10% or flat amount. Rogue add better stacking for Posion , skill that does a quick double stab, allow for Survival bow, Bards is strong af and prob needs some buffs nerfed, Barb and cleric are pretty good atm all other classes need cooler deisigns skills ect just some ideas id like to see

[tardy vector]

Also i had a cool and BOLD idea for Game and Ruins: Expand it to be BIGGER! AND MAIN AREA OF Game, EVERY GAME STARTS THROUGH RUINS , starter area for noobs, could incorporate the arenas into to this map too maybe and let that be the only pvp zone, or just a set area of map players can enter at own risk (also high tier loot area) everywhere else normal mobs areas, this could give ruins the social aspect where players could find teammates throughout map to play and continue down to the other maps that could have Entrances designed for each one gob,ice,crypts, where players can then choose where to continue to either solo duo or trio, This could allow for a full complete 3lvl adventuring experience i believe, ruins >Gob, Ice, crypts>Abyss, hell, Id love to see a 2nd dungeon level to GC. Could be a All in one Hub area...when NPCs are a thing ingame could make the lobby merchants into NPCS housed there to interact with too stash, Marketplace ect, get away from drop menus and add more depth. Be a big transition but think the vibes could be awesome! idk playin and thinking! Expand or Critique!

[merry kestrel]

You should be able to use an enemy player's heart soul at a sacrifice altar to full heal, so you can still get quest credits as a solo.

[meager void]

Crystal Sword:

Instead of making it a spell casting tool, have it store a spell, so every 15-20 seconds when you do the first swing in the combo, the stab casts the stored spell. It's right click just stores the spell you want

The applications are really cool, a wizard could store a frost bolt, ignite, or even explode into the sword, a warlock could give it CoP, CoW, even shield or spell predation. Self castable spells always default to self cast, obviously, dont wanna give the barbarian ignite by accident lmao

I genuinely think this would make the sword a useful alternative and give it some real flavor and spice to the "spell sword" concept it's trying to be.

Balance Idea:
Remove Torture Mastery, Replace it with a new spell (Best option IMO as it will have the draw back of eating a spell slot instead of being a forced Perk) or perk that rewards health ON KILL.

As a Warlock player since Warlock's Release, it has been a waste of development resources. It is clearly toxic for the game and class. Here's why:

1. It is bad class fantasy. You're a Warlock, you make Sacrifices. You should heal AFTER the sacrifice NOT before.

2. It promotes not interacting with the game. The playstyle that is both hated and the reason it needs all this "balancing" is because Warlocks just run around full MS healing to full while having the safety net of Phantomize and Flame Walk. If they want to do that, the battle of attrition should exist like it does for every other class. Rangers can run out of arrows, Wizards can run out of spell slots. A Warlock CANNOT because of torture mastery.

3. It exists solely to remove the one gimmick warlocks have. Their spells cost health. It is the equivalent to a Wizard getting all their spell slots back off a single zap. Only it's worse, because Health is an important resource. Warlocks do not deserve to have a very low risk mid combat heal at range, that also does considerable damage. With ONLY white Mystic Gloves and a White Occultist Hood a Warlock can heal 17 hp. 1 hp under missing THREE CoP's. Combine this with PoS and the warlock should realistically never die if playing at a mediocre level to anything except a Ranger (Because a Wizard's spells are much easier to read and dodge than an arrow is, especially at a longer distance.)

Please Remove the Perk. Stop wasting Development time on a fundamentally badly designed perk. Please, just stop.

[copper rapids]

I don't think warlock is an issue. There's way more busted class like Rogue, they can litteraly kill anyone without any type of retaliation possible. They can't have invis and High Damage. it's dumb, and unfun for everyone but them.

Rogue balancing idea:

1. Remove Invisibility,
2. All perks related to invisibility should now work in Darkened Area (Light from handheld torches not counting).
3. Give them a Skill that shuts any Wall Torch light around at once.

Now they have to actually have skills to win, Think two step ahead and even play mind games instead of having an easy win.

[tardy vector]

I like it!

[grand agate]

Balance Idea:
Fix Matchmaking => Based on Equipped Itemlevel. Stop wannabe-toxic-pro purple equipped players farm the normal white / green equipped players.
Furthermore punish players who did this ultra toxic kind of player-farming in the past.

[jolly leaf]

<@&988703997378584596> pls?

[abstract stirrup]

Sorry about that 😄

[jolly leaf]

Np, thx you

[covert lake]

Tiny url fake url to a fake site where community is spelt wrong wardens ban. Cant tag wardens someone help

[copper rapids]

Can't punish someone for playing the game. Though I agree there should be more fine tuning with more ranges of GS in matchmaking

[surreal hornet]

I got a suggestion - how about some kind of a notification when a party member types in chat? The sneaky appearence in the smallest part of the screen is really not helping me not miss on that call to extract a minute ago 😦

[elfin vale]

playing the pvp game = ULTRA TOXIC MUST BE EXECUTED🤬🤬🤯😱

[grand agate]

Nope. Green vs Green or sth. like max 100 vs max 100 Matchmaking is fine and fair.

But placing all these wannabe-pros with full purple gear who just run through the map and farm ppl together with low gear is just toxic and a full useless gamestyle. These ppl. need to be watched. After fairer matchmaking everything ist fine. Just buying full puple gear and farming low gear ppl. is no gameplay - it´s just "i have no rl, i need some proof that i am worth sth." gameplay. And there should be a new matchmaking system with specifig gear limits.

For example:

Tier 0: Up to 25 Itemlevel
Tier 1: 25 up to 60 Itemlevel
Tier 2: 60 up to 100 Itemlevel
Tier 3: 100 up to 140 Itemlevel
Tier 4: 140+ Itemlevel

Maybe with names Like:

Tier 0: Starter
Tier 1: Normal
Tier 2: Rare
Tier 3: Epic
Tier 4: Legend

[iron bloom]

Where can i suggest that current quest items get a little symbol, border, or glow so there's no guessing in the dungeon?

[elfin vale]

so you want to split the queues even more? right now, the playerbase is split between 12 queues PER region. you want to add another 9? split the playerbase 21 different ways PER REGION? might as well close the game down right now then lol

[grand agate]

Go on with an better idea of matchmaking. If you have no fairness even in the matchmaking you could even allow cheaters maybe? So we do not need to ban them out of the game, right?

[elfin vale]

… saying cheaters are allowed because youre dying in a hardcore extraction pvp game to higher geared players is an insane take, i think ur too emotional to suggest anything king

[grand agate]

Nope just the same idea of your "fairness".

You need to split the queues. You need to set a fair matchmaking. Almost every game these days has some kind of matchmaking. Just stating "don´t go for more queues" is just nothing. Fact is there needs to be a better way of matchmaking - skillbased or gearbased or something else. There is no way going on without it because it will frustrate (especially new players) and loose quite a few ppl.

A fair matchmaking is a essential part of a growing game.

Splitting the queues does not hurt anyone. It will bring balance to the game and it will help ppl. to learn and get better in PVP and Fights slowly. It will be supportive instead of the current destructive matchmaking.

[elfin vale]

just breathe bro, the arena game mode is coming and a large portion of your villains will be in there, then youll be free to kill skeletons to your heart’s content

[grand agate]

Like i said - your arguments are just without any content 🙂 But that´s fine - in understant that you are one of these ppl. So enjoy this toxic playstyle as long as you can.

Anyway we are here for suggestions. And fact is - there needs to be a new matchmaking. Thats the suggestion and how this will happen is another side of it. But there will be no long-time way around it.

Yep Arena may fix it and get rid of the toxic ones we got in almost every pvp game. But arena still won´t fix the matchmaking. Thats where the Gearbased-Multi-Step-Matchmaking comes in place. It will be almost the best way for everyone.

If you hate PVP, if you love PVP - even gear - fair pvp - everything fine. I don´t care if i am blue geared and die to blue geared. But i care if i am white / green geared and die to the toxic full purple farmers. And THIS is the big problem of the current system. Nothing else.

[jolly leaf]

You guys are both right. Imo we need Gear based matchmaking but we can't over do it because it split the player base. The best in between for me would be to remove the gearscore matchmaking in normal and make in common gear max again. And put 3 level of gearscore in HR only. Grey to Green/Blue (with one or 2 blue piece) -> Green/Blue to Blue/Purple (With 1 or 2 purple piece) -> And everything above that @grand agate @elfin vale . Imo High roller is empty right now for 2 reason. Some player are too afraid or bored to go in HR and get stomp by experienced player so they stay in Normal +25. And free player have access to too much thing and that result in them staying in normal and not buying the game.

And I don't think Arena would solve the "Experienced player stomping all the new or no PvP player" maybe for a week or two but in the end people don't stick to Team deathmatch game mode, they always come back in the normal mode and keep playing only PvP there. (That happen in every Call of Duty, Battlefield, Apex Legend etc)

[jolly leaf]

here's a recent suggestion about that : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563455/add-a-gear-score-matchmaking-system Don't hesitate to upvote it

[elfin vale]

i think they would stick to it for the most part, considering rank would be relocated to arena and players like that love rank

[jolly leaf]

That's true but i'm really not sure about that. In most of the game I know who added a PvP mode people end up coming back on the main mode to do PvP. I guess it's more thrilling and some people who want PvP but are not really good player get bored of being stomp on the PvP mode and go back in normal to chase people who don't want/know how to PvP

I've seen this suggestion on the website. I had the same idea about the rogue and think it would be a good rework/new build : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons Upvote it if you like the idea

[daring trail]

the GBMM they have rn is decent tbh
what you proposed honestly doesnt even make sense, the difference between 25 gs and 60gs is 1 blue weapon and a green piece of gear lol, everything else white/gray. On top of it, your 'legendary' tier is not even a full blue set worth of gear

when i was playing yesterday there was a few games i queued into where my team was full white/green kits and we died 2 games in a row to optimized stat purple sets. sucks for sure, but the 3rd game we killed one of those teams and now we are juiced as fuck.

its part of the game tbh, and with how all the stats have changed this season, its for sure the most balanced it has been as far as gear is concerned

splitting up queues even more than they already are isnt a good solution imo

Right now if you need perfectly matched gear score lobbies, queue in with squire gear and youll only see ppl in grays/whites, maybe 1 green or something they looted aswell

[crude hill]

I think is easier and a better idea make a system to punish bullys, gear disparity is part of what makes game fun and varied. Also, looking for DnD to be a balanced game is what have removed the most unique parts of the game in the past.
This was my suggestion: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/561973/dungeon-bully-compass

Btw i will tell you one thing about arena. There are classes that will be imposible to play in arena by design as it should be. I like the arena idea but players will complain about balance and devs will continue trying to make classes multi function by removing its concept and uniqueness.

[worn lava]

not really top streamers talk about it as possible solution and that's how it was in the past only 1 mode we have a norm that splits up gear and its perfect and then we have a hr that nobody likes the harder mobs just aint fun when they arent even rewarding combined with a tax to get in thats just a tax on the poor i don't see it being that crazy adventure anime dnd movies all material regarding dungeon delving they are all very similar going into the dungeon looting fighting boss monsters and all the video material and movies and anime they have towns or camps set up as check points it makes perfect sense in lore and im already certain devs will add npc in the waiting areas leading deeper to the second floor for you to restock on supply's

[copper rapids]

Rogues will be the meta hands down, 80% PDR pen + high Damage + invis ? Good luck. Not playing arena if rogues aren't nerfed.

at least in 1v1's

They already are the PvP meta in solo, because you can't do anything against them

[crude hill]

If a class is stronger in arena it is what it is. In what world will a guy with a flute kill a rogue? wtf. Arena should be a mode for those classes that can play it. If you want to play 1 v 1 arenas with a healer and you end up with a 10% win rate that is your problem not of balance.

[copper rapids]

I mean there is stronger (Barbarian) and there is unfair. Rogue is definitely in the Unfair category. I've played rogue, tested my theory, and I can tell you that it's disgusting how powerfull rogue are at the moment:

• Ambush + PDR pen + Dagger Mastery + Stealth; Hide + Weakpoint Attack.
• Hide once you hear steps that are close
• Wait for them to have their back turned.
• Stab a bunch of time
• Get their loot.

You can rince and repeat as much as you want. Unless you fuck up badly you'll win every single time.

[tardy vector]

I want to see Dispel/nullify potion to remove curses & debuffs

[open wigeon]

in regards to gear match making, I think the only change should be that normals should have a cap, IE it should be like <24, 25-150, High Roller (uncapped)

the goal should be to funnel people into highroller as they progress

[tough willow]

Agreed, the problem is the player base is far too low right now. The point isn’t to have fun, but to develop a game and find bugs etc that’s the point of having early access players. Sure, sometimes it’s fun but mostly it’s testing. Gearbase matchmaking is in testing right now and will work in the future but will need at least double the amount of players right now to work. It’s almost impossible to implement a fair system when there is such a small fan base.

[jolly leaf]

I'm thinking of that just now but imo a good warlock nerf would be that they can't use Spellbook anymore and maybe a small Crystal ball nerf on the damage

[jolly leaf]

With a different matchmaking system (by that I mean how lobby are created and people put in them) we could use GBMM with the playerbase we have now. Can't make too many bracket but 3 only in High Roller would be ok imo

[bleak monolith]

Please can we get more people asking for them to change the map markers color because it's just really hard for a lot of people to see well

Should be an extremely easy thing to do and fast

[restive pelican]

dawg combining norms with hr would actually make me stop playing, the divide between gear would make high gear score norms unplayable, i dont even think you play this game with what youre spewing

[worn lava]

your very dissociated i don't think your capable of conversation anymore talking to you further would be pointless i suggest watching streams reddit or watching the darkest hour

[restive pelican]

i suggest that you play some hr to see the difference between hr and norms, i dont wanna see 500gs sweats in my 25> lobbies when i get tired of running 25< gs

plus if you combined them then alot of the mob behaviour would go away, i dont think youve fully thought through your idea, youre just refrencing anime thinking you know something, its just really cringe

[warm umbra]

would have to agree on that. we've seen it before where norms are full of purples/legendary gear. its nice to be able to run a green/blue set in norms without running into them now. just people afraid to lose gear running norms in epic+. theres a reason its been changed multiple times. would have to agree that reverting that would for sure ruin the game and kill the player base. 🙏 please dont kill player base after getting so many more people now

[burnt jasper]

Damn, to me that is the best warlock fix I saw to this day, that said I think the Devs really like warlock reseting mid fight. Still, I like the recovering on kill aspect

[jolly leaf]

He made a suggestion about that. Upvote it! https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to

[jolly leaf]

And imo there his other way to nerf him while keeping the life steal effect or in other way. Like that #game-discussion message . One of the other powerful aspect is that he's fast to nerf that you could ban him from using spellbook. They would probably use the Crystal ball stand alone and that why they should slitghly nerf the magique damage like -1 for every rarity, ir make it like 1 for Grey and White, 2 for Green and Blue, 3 for Purple and Legendary

I'm not saying that every lf those idea should be done at the same time but there is things to try to nerf the Warlock

[fallow fjord]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563862/remove-inferno-goblin-mage

THIS iS VERY IMPORTANT

[cosmic narwhal]

There needs to be some kind of whisper system that allows you to send a message to players in game.
I found a duo that wanted me to join them and teach them some things.
They sent me a friend invite, but not a invite to the party.
I wanted to message them, but the game won't allow it and i can't invite them either.

[proper nymph]

Ruins has to be added back it is the most action pack and fun map to adventure im willing to bet you 75% of the community would rather have ruins tier map than just crpyts

[brittle lily]

should be able to do solo raids on any map and not get the loot, so new players can learn any boss indefinitely

[jolly leaf]

"/w CharacterName" then press space. No you can send private message to someone. You can also do "/r" then press space to answer a whisper

[jolly leaf]

The map is being reworked. It will come back at some point. (Probably next season)

[crude hill]

3 days to dungeonborne playtest to start. This will definitely affect playerbase since it is visually better and less clunky but at least in the past playtest they didnt came up with something that ironmace didnt already implemented. What i want to say is that our stronger point i think is that our devs were always willing to try, design and implement new innovative systems to upgrade the enviroment and immerion of a dungeon crawler pvevp extraction game. Some examples are the brave moves of removing BR circle for a more immersive event to each map, creating cool exits or encouraging inside dungeon cooperation to kill a wyvern. I hope Ironmace knows that what makes them better is their stronger philosophy to approach the game experience and enviroment to a dungeons and dragons fantasy. Finally saying that i always thought that the stronger part of a Roll Multiplayer game is it's social aspect and thx to things like proximity chat i can say we have the best community. ❤️

[hollow thunder]

we need gear score lobbies back especially with the new players. its great we have a sub 25 lobby but we should have more brackets like <299 and <400 then unlimited or something. its so sad to see these new players just get mopped but gs 500+ losers in norms

[soft acorn]

in my opinion it could be 0-24 | 25-99 | 100+

[hollow thunder]

theres a lot of wiggle on the actual brackets but something were greens are viable again (lower gs lobbies) and new players arent getting absolutely gear diffed when it has nothing to do with skill. just who has more money more often

[woven copper]

Can y'all put a matchmaking based on gear score? Having greens witha gear score of 112 should not be paired with people in the 300+s

[hollow thunder]

i think its needed

[somber elk]

listen ironmace listen so carefully listen like u never did, listen cuz im going to be mad, i wanttt something is that clear?

ironmace i bought you, you got money you top seller on steam do something something brothers, at least give me potato boss 🥔 🥔 👌

[woven copper]

Getting merced by fame 100+ gear score 300+ guys when me and my level 15 friends with greens is absolutely brutal

[somber elk]

BARD FUTURE UPDATES🪇 🎺 🎻 🥁 🪕 🎹

[soft acorn]

Pls fix the troll as the people who are outside of his cave have adventage as they can stay in specific places to force troll to make unexpected moves where he one shot ... Still haven't fixed this for 2 years its so annoying

[meager void]

I like this game and I like a lot of the stuff about it and the devs usually make decent cool choices, that said, if the devs still think torture mastery is good for the class or the game, the devs are sadly, very stupid, and might as well just remove the health cost to spells all together since that would mean they clearly don't care about the "health cost" gimmick in the first place as that's all torture mastery exists for, to essentially remove the health cost gimmick. Literally since Warlocks release they've tuned that perk over and over again, at this point it's just a sunk cost fallacy to keep doing it.

It was a failed experiment to get the class off the ground. Even at 3x cost with Vampirism and 4 magical healing they can heal 17 health back off one CoP. Almost Three times the 6 hp cost of CoP with the perk, while having essentially 0 risk to the warlock doing it. While getting the Mheal bonus on a health potion ON TOP OF IT ALL.

They could spend the resources they spend on balancing Torture Mastery on actually fleshing out warlock spells, giving them actually interesting perks and skills, and properly balancing the class as a whole

[somber elk]

WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYY

[valid oak]

How can work an arena in unbalanced game? In arena we will see just fighters barb and maybe rangers/bard, just one shot boring easy class

[noble tide]

Combine both maps Goblin Caves and Ruins together call it Goblin Ruins. Ruins first floor, Goblin Caves second floor.

[jolly leaf]

<@&988703997378584596> one more to ban

[jolly leaf]

Yes. I had a discussion about that a few week ago. Here's how I see it #suggestion-discussion message

[tiny agate]

A little suggestion - would nice to add an audio sound when map rotation changes. So I can alt-tab until my desired map comes up

[olive jewel]

Thank you

[wispy valve]

I haven't really used this before, so I don't know if anyone has recommended these, but maybe a hunting knife item for ranger? reverse grip, longer curved blade, maybe offhand weapon, kind of like the stilleto but more of a mini falchion aesthetic? A scimitar/saber/shamshir style weapon for fighter and ranger, perhaps others? Some headgear variety for Slayer Fighter would be pretty cool, either a new armor variant with a chainmail coif, or a leather hood or something. Like a ranger or forest hood but the name could just be Slayers Cowl or something? Also adding a lantern to the squire would be a nice quality of life update. A swordbreaker weapon would be cool too. Like an offhand weapon you can parry with, similar to the lantern shield.

[wispy valve]

More craftable options would be nice too, cobalt silver and gold arming swords and longbows, halberds, etc..

[tiny agate]

Yee different metal combinations would be nice

[brazen token]

I'll just drop this here as well. Remove grand brigandine as a barbarians armor option, reduce the speed penalty on northern full tunic to fill that slot instead, and reduce studded leather to movement penalty 8. Then adjust armor values accordingly. Barbarians should feel just as happy wearing their unique stuff as warlocks, wizards, etc. do wearing their own stuff.

[elder sigil]

Still no druid class channel?

[remote whale]

there is just update your roles

[elder sigil]

🤯

[remote whale]

[solemn berry]

Anyone ever run into the "Server Terminated Abnormally" before?

whats weird is my onboard Motherboard wifi will keep me connected(2 bars across the house) but my actual slotted wifi Chip seems to cause the issue with only this game. all other games/internet work. fuckin weird

[still tulip]

i wish that only the party leader could invite. multiple times been trying to duo and people invite a 3rd before i can even talk to them

[jovial swan]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563940/petition-to-remove-rogue-from-the-game

[round zephyr]

why the F*** can i not report after deathcam

[jolly leaf]

That's not the good way to do thkng. Rogue can be rework in more interesting way than the invisible landmine but it shouldn't be removed. Like this https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[forest hearth]

To me, the best thing lock could get rn is a functional evil eye spell......

[subtle shadow]

game feels dead somehow

[forest hearth]

This is neither a suggestion nor a discussion point.... Remvove yourself or face our wrath idiot!!!!

[stiff pike]

why do i spawn on the same place all the time, this happens since the first playtest

also who tf put space bar on lockpicks you devil

[cosmic narwhal]

how is anyone supposed to figure that out?
Thank you, though

[humble pine]

I know this has been suggested plenty but I just wanted to reiterate I wish there were more gear score brackets for normal lobbies. With so many new players it'd be nice to be able to practice with some amount of gear even just a couple greens rather than feel like I have to rock less than 25 to get some decent practice in.

[forest hearth]

Fix the mob aggro on frost mountain, it doesn't make sense for the game to aggro mobs that are 5m away through the floor when they really have to walk 5x that distance to properly path to you (if they even can). It just messes with the mob distribution in modules when you have to be aware that a pile of bones might see you through the floor or through a door with kobolds

[eternal fable]

Cutthroat effect needs to be WAY more clear for the person who is silenced. As a wizard, every time im cutthroated it feels like im canceling the spell over and over again, not that im silenced. My screen doesnt look different, the game doesnt make it clear im silenced whatsoever.

[sick cradle]

Please bring back old extraction system this one is not fun at all

[forest hearth]

youre in a tiny minority there

[sick cradle]

old circle was fun it was hard to extract and %100 you must pvp

but now you can easly extract purple items are 100g xd

i just started to play game and i got 1k i can buy whatever i want so this is not good im already bored

[forest hearth]

personally i hated the circle system from the start (playtest 2), if you just started to play you probably havent had back to back raids where you get no time to loot because you got a bad spawn outside the circle, which could often push you straight to teams who had gotten good spawns and didnt have to take as many risks with pve to stay alive

also lmao 1k is not a lot thats not even a full good kit, there are single items that go for much more than that

[sick cradle]

and also game become more pve focused i guess boss raids etc. i think its suppose to be more pvp focused

[forest hearth]

im not sure why you think that, pve hasnt really changed much since the games conception lol

[sick cradle]

but circle forced you to fast raid or died at circle

but now you can easly raid game is more like rogue-like to me right now not extraction

because i can easly raid bosses without any threat only with dodge i paid 30 dollar but still want to play in normal dungeon

in high rollers they spamed raid bosses and become immune for me

[forest hearth]

are you trying to push towards points of interest like bigger chests and satic extracts? or are you just playing as usual and wondering why youre not seeing as many people lol. you dont have to loot the room your in, you have a choice to find pvp and if norms are the only thing youre doing of course there are more people who choose to loot and avoid pvp. it sounds more like you want people to come to you without much choice for themselves while playing the game the same way you have been thus far

cuz if you loot every chest in every module and expect to find a ton of people while other people are doing the same of course youre not gonna have many encounters

[sick cradle]

but in old system you can loot while moving and %100 chance to find people on your way

[forest hearth]

thats because the circle removed the choice for people to either loot or pvp if they got a bad spawn, if you dont have much and you get a bad spawn youre forced essentially to get in a pvp encounter. people didnt like that because it was very battle royale esque and not as much like a looter extraction game unless you gota good circle spawn. and again, there are still points of interest where there will be more player traffic, its up to you though whether you want to forgoe the looting to get to those points and get more pvp

[forest hearth]

also i get the sense that you eidther didnt play while the circle was in the game or you started playing shortly before the circle was removed, its lame to kill people who never got the chance to loot cuz they had to keep running from the swarm while you just got the good rng spawn and could wait for them to come to you

nothing is stopping you from murder hoboing, killing only essential mobs, and moving through modules as fast as possible to catch the people who do spend more time in their modules looting

[copper rapids]

Idea to Replace the Invisibility Skill from the Rogue:

I present the "Dash".

Dash would be in game more akin to an instant teleport of 5m ( 16 ft) base in the direction of movement that can collide with walls and doors, with 3 Charges and no CoolDown.

A few perks could come with it:

• Damage and/or MS after the Dash
• Reload** 1 charge** per kill (doesn't matter if monster or PVP)
• Distance augmentation of the skill Dash to 7.5m (24 ft)

The objective of the Dash is to make the Rogue be a High Octane class, with movement and positionning advantage on demand. Being able to go in and out of the fight quickly. It would also make the class more entertaining to play and more fair to fight against for other people.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563970/dash-replacing-the-invisibility-from-rogue

[uneven rain]

Man, a "search for similiar" button for the marketplace would be a FINE qol of life upgrade... I know its a small thing but being able to click one button to check prices before you post an item would be actually so sweet

[devout dagger]

PLEASE GET RID OF THE CHICKEN SCREECH

[cursive temple]

MARKETPLACE Suggestion #1 :
When moving an item into the sell slot, have it automatically search the item name and the current rarity of said item when swapping to the "View Market" tab

Why
This will tremendously speed up time between selling items and is a massive qol feature.

[solemn needle]

Barbarian shout (Savage Roar) should affect the invisible rogues.

[quiet narwhal]

I suggest ironmace puts magic protection potions as a loot drop, because we can't get white ones to craft into better ones right now

[jolly leaf]

That's a cool idea but I think Rogue already have enough mobility, and people will cry too much about a Dash on rogue unfortunately. Someone suggested that for a rogue rework, I had the same idea and think i'll be incredible : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[quiet narwhal]

Also let woodsman sell a stack of 2 throwing knives. It costs 18 gold for only 1, and you can only buy 2 each rotation of store stock

[opaque umbra]

Remove movespeed as a stat and give classes evasive/slowdown skills/spells to compensate. This will allow for glassy characters to function without instantly dying in pvp, and also remove fights that automatically resolve through silly Benny Hill sketch kiting.

[rugged cypress]

Add a Cartographer vendor; provides an actual map ingame that can be looked at to orient your self with room names. At higher tier mark a random chest in map that give better loot than usual, like a dungeon map in Albion.Online if you will

[crude hill]

i think is already a suggestion like yours in the forum but if not, dont doubt to create a suggestion in the forum and place the link in your message

[steep canopy]

can please for the love of god let the rogue brake the crates and barrel, some exflis are behind them.

[crude hill]

Stash Renting System

Make all stashes rentable so you have to pay a fee based on the rarity, amount of your items and amount of money in it. You start without stash but it is cheap enough that once you make a first good extraction you have money to pay it for a reasonable amount of games. Yes i said games, to avoid people losing his stash and dont let them get frustrated after not playing for some days, i recomend having to pay each time you come back from the dungeon or pay for multiple games at once so you dont need to be always aware of paying the fee (with a limit of games rented so players dont find some exploit).

Ok now the most important part, make the fee scale exponentially with the rarity, amount of your items and amount of money so best players will have to risk their best items because the fee is hard to pay (not imposible just demanding).

If you dont pay the fee your stash will be first confiscated with a limit of time to buy it back and second given to a pawn house. The items pawned have the name of the original owner for more fun. Also items are randomly pawned between days so you cant track them.

I know this idea will sound bad for some players cause it will cause an increment in unfair fight in the dungeon because of tryhard pvp players and bullys but the benefits of not letting best players to just stacks lots and lots of gold are obvious. And these problems can be solved by other methods like a good arena integration and a thing that i already suggested in the past, a system to punish bullys.

My anti-bully system: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/561973/dungeon-bully-compass

Stash Renting System: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563992/stash-renting-system

[ocean lagoon]

You can do it with a pickaxe (bought from the woodsman for 20g), or with a lute (free from squire)

[steep canopy]

o thanks so much

[ocean lagoon]

Maybe give rogue an skill that helps him fight in dark places/smoke , like a really close range dark vision for movement, similar to the trap detection perk.

[soft acorn]

just delete rogues from the game

[woven copper]

Is there a reason why my cleric friend had a bunch of extra stuff at the squire than the normal selection?

[jolly leaf]

Yep, he probably ended some quest. They unlock more stuff to start with at the squire, more stuff to buy from the merchant, reduce price of the Merchant, unlock craft

[chrome gale]

let skins effect animal form for druid give ice zombie animal forms for frost walker skeleton ones depending on the color of skele you got more sleek elf ones more feral lycan ones would be cool change i think alot of people would enjoy

[jolly leaf]

That's a really good idea but also a lot of work for only one class.

[meager void]

You should be able to make white quality potions out of just flowers and upgrade them with the flowers, I wanna do the alchemist stuff but I'm not about to keep track of potions, I wanna live off the land not do this weird poor mans "well I found 3 white healths I guess Ill SAVE THOSE to make a few greens or something instead of just spending the 5 gold at the Trade window, whack way to do the plants IMO

[wild karma]

Really hoping we can make explosive bottles stack to 2 again. This druid nonsense is getting out of hand.

[sudden scaffold]

Why were the additional layouts for Crypts and Inferno removed?

If anything, you should be adding more layouts. It adds a hell of a lot of dynamic to the game, that was my suggestion for when ruins was a problem.

Goblin caves is now the PVP hub specifically because of how easy that layout is to traverse and how well people know it now. Adding more layouts to all of the maps will help them significantly

[primal hawk]

Make it so warlocks get stacks of casting speed de-buff (stacking up to 8 times) for every curse they apply, giving more room for outplay by melee classes/shield users and other casters.

Give barbs better throwables

[tiny wigeon]

Just a heads up guys. Ironmace doesn’t read this channel, if you’re making a suggestion for them to read, you have to use their website.
This is the place to discuss the suggestions on the website.

Just letting you all know so you don’t waste your energy thinking this is the place for it.
I see a bunch of great suggestions but sadly this isn’t where you should send them.
If you want to suggest to ironmace then use https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

Also , this isn’t my opinion, it’s how they said this channel is to be used. It’s weird, I don’t agree with it, but I just wanna share with you guys.

[lavish rose]

This is so helpful lol I had no clue. Something like this should be pinned!

[somber elk]

change anything

[proper nymph]

ill play next season than

[bleak monolith]

Map marker color change!

Can we all suggest in here for them to change the color of the map marker? It's really hard for me and a few other players I know to see the thing, it blends in very well with the map

Maybe a brightish green color just something that makes the marker POP and not blend into the map

Thank you for your time!

[brisk kelp]

Day 2 of asking to bring Ruins back into the map rotation❤️

[bleak monolith]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564101/map-marker-color-change

[bleak monolith]

I miss that map

[brisk kelp]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564113/add-ruins-into-the-map-rotation

[fair kite]

does anyone else feel that we should not require you to have a common version of an item for crafting cobalt/copper,etc?

[midnight whale]

the third gs bracket needs to be removed from small regions like oce, my lobbies are completely dead.

[woven copper]

What quest is this? I'm way ahead of him and still dont have anywhere near that much unlocked.

[sudden scaffold]

Ray of darkness base damage is a meme.
Ray of darkness scaling would be good if not for its meme base damage and the way it works

[somber elk]

CHANGES PLS

[jolly leaf]

If it's gear it's should be Tailor, Leathersmith, Armourer or Weaponsmith quest

[mellow arrow]

MORE TRIO VOICE CHANNELS.........there always full at night time so many players.

[lavish rose]

Just gonna reply to this here for no particular reason whatsoever 😆🤣

[weak tartan]

An idea for item creation
this comes from the fact that I find it silly now that I get common quality rondels that I cant get a poor from the squire to make a Sterling
if cheeping a poor from squire is not intended than I suggest being able to make weapons using Iron of each type from the weapon smith same with all armors with questing bonuses
this gives more uses for iron and makes item creation more convenient

[woven copper]

Where do you find gold ore?

[unborn terrace]

Goblin vault, only accessable after both the Troll and Cyclops are dead

[dawn trellis]

after frost wyvern too i believe

[unborn terrace]

I believe frost wyvern has its own ore. Froststone Ore. Theres only 1 node to mine it at

[woven copper]

Yikes. I can't even kill them

[soft nebula]

can we get some kind of coolddown on druid transformations. this is honestly so unfun to go against compared to any other class in the game

[dawn trellis]

for me theyre alright, whats your issue with them specifically?

[crude hill]

like making it instant just from human to something?

or if you want play full transformations, sacrifice the nature wizard gameplay and vice versa

[trim night]

If I remember correctly, there was an option to make Common Potions of Protection, but it was basically impossible cause Common Herbs refused to spawn in the dungeons. They did a sneak patch like a week after patch to "upgrade" all the craftable potions to Green or higher

[pure plank]

Is it just me or is this movement speed meta contrary to their Season 4 goal of "Renewed focus on dungeon crawling"?

• Every class can get crazy move speed
• Slower classes can bhop to cancel move speed penalties of swapping weps and casting
• Insta unequip of gear to move faster

All this makes inherently faster classes feel useless when slower and stronger classes like barb, cleric, etc. can move just as fast

[junior anchor]

The entire "gear score" concept is dumb. A damage roll green is worth 3x a dead roll purple. It just adds a contrived system that confuses casuals.

[soft nebula]

the transformations from rat-> panther are just extremely good, hard to punish, and mastery of it exceeds mastery of basically any other class in an unhealthy way, you look at good trios nowadays and its always druids, a support class, making the winning plays. IMO, clerics druids and bards need to be more support based, but in solos, with an optimized build those 3 are nearly if not the strongest right now.

[crude hill]

that is what im saying make him go human form first

also there is the human jump -> panther dash -> chiken double jump into bunny jump combo
insane mobility

[soft nebula]

IMO rn classes all need at least 1 thing to get slightly nerfed to fit more of a class based identity. barbs/clerics have too much MS right now, warlock base health should go down to punish letting enemies get close, rogue invis walking needs a revert, game was significantly more enjoyable when it wasnt a thing. fighters can overall stay as they are based on them not having any prevalent features right now. bard should take a hit on either damage/health, its basically a better rogue/fighter right now. druids need a panther/bear damage nerf. wizard is strong but easily punished so they dont deserve any hits. basically, if they just hitch down some of these stats on characters right now the game would be less frustrating

[eager ridge]

maybe nerf clerics @dawn grotto

[somber escarp]

Items: Claws Dual Weild, Lotus Flower Bomb (Warlock, Druid, Wizard, Cleric) - Set's a trap that explodes, disorienting enemies and makes noise.

[quasi river]

That's wild, just checked the suggestions on site and they're all (a lot of) phishing ads for online pharmacys (buy oxy online etc)

[lavish rose]

I have ad block and not one single ad comes through. Ad blocker is free btw

[quasi river]

no not like on site ads, like the suggestions site is being used to advertise phishing

wish I could post the ss lol

[lavish rose]

Not seeing anything like that anywhere on the page

[quasi river]

sort by new and scroll down a touch, you'll see a bunch for buying oxy through some online pharmo and a couple asking "where can I buy darvocet online"

[lavish rose]

You can probably try to post in #dnd-content

I will post this for the mods to view and inspect just in case

[quasi river]

gotcha just dropped a link in dnd content, cheers!

[lavish rose]

Thank you so much!!!! Was really kind of you to let them know. It keeps everyone safer. Thanks again 🙂

[meager jasper]

Not a fan of the addition of the new gear bracket, especially on the sly. The majority of players in normals being ungeared due to a healthy playerbase was preferable to having a gear bracket where everyone was insufferable and sweaty imo.

[high meadow]

suggestion: do something about the endless TWR (spelled backwards) spam in gathering hall from <insert country>

[soft acorn]

suggestion: delete this rat rogue class from the game, thx

[limber elbow]

Fix Cleric , Cleric class super broken because i can make sure no class can win 1vs1 with Cleric , full PDR buff like x3 power and can heal instal how to win , all class got nerf but Cleric survive from beta test 3 until now Dev never touch Cleric

[sudden scaffold]

25-124 lobbies don't seem to get full for me very often, interesting that it was implemented quietly but I'm not bothered by either of these, just openly speculating

Also rework Wizard

[civic zodiac]

wizard feels terrible rn. i think it might need something like a ( teleport kinda spell where you can mark a location and for x amount of time you can tele back to there to reposition ) i think having the class being played into a more elusive/environement management way could spice up things a bit and bring back wizard in the dungeons. rn i hardly even meet any of them for obvious reason...

[jolly leaf]

Yeah a teleport spell on wizard could be really good. But imo right now we need to nerf/rework the other class instead of buffing the weak one or we'll end up again in a one shot meta where everyone is too op (last season it was because of gear, if they keep buffing to much the class it'll be because of that). Thing like they did on the fighter (even if it was a small change) but i'm thinking of rework the Landmine rogue like that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons or for the warlock #game-discussion message / https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to

[jolly leaf]

You mean the druid or the Invis rogue? If rogue then https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons That's a better way than remove it, they'll never remove a class that would be dumb. It's better to think of suggestion to change it

[meager jasper]

I've only started getting into bossing, but I'm surprised more people don't say they dislike Troll. I really like the cyclops, it feels fair, even with the DPS-check rock fall section. Troll doesn't feel fair, his charge is just a 50% death coin flip and there's no good reason imo why it should have a random chance of being two completely different unpredictable moves. They should either look different or one should be removed.

[jolly leaf]

yes the charge is random but you can avoid it #q-and-a message. When you've learned the troll he's actually easier than the cyclops

[meager jasper]

I'm fully aware of how the mechanic works and it's still terrible, thank you. I'm aware there's a sweet spot range and that isn't good boss design.

Him being easier once you've done it dozens of times is not good boss design in general. He should simply not insta-kill you with a poorly telegraphed attack no matter how you put it.

You know what he feels like? Elden Ring and the waterfowl dance. I love Sekiro, and I love the final boss fight in that game, it's a perfectly fair complete encapsulation of all the mechanics. Malenia is not that. The waterfowl dance actively requires a certain level of cheesy meta-knowledge to avoid; or a busted build that staggers her constantly or something. These two things are not the same thing even if they're probably similarly difficult.
It simply isn't fun. I'm not contending difficulty here.

[tiny wigeon]

Just a heads up guys. Ironmace doesn’t read this channel, if you’re making a suggestion for them to read, you have to use their website.
This is the place to discuss the suggestions on the website.

Just letting you all know so you don’t waste your energy thinking this is the place for it.
I see a bunch of great suggestions but sadly this isn’t where you should send them.
If you want to suggest to ironmace then use https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

Also , this isn’t my opinion, it’s how they said this channel is to be used. It’s weird, I don’t agree with it, but I just wanna share with you guys.

[cosmic moss]

I was fighting a barbarian with my warlock, I had my life bar at its maximum, I only received one hit from the barbarian, and when I transformed into a demon I died almost instantly from the passive...3% damage to being a demon is too much, I suggest wue be changed to 1 or 1.5 at most, otherwise the demon perk is not viable, and is the warlock's biggest draw.

[jolly leaf]

I also agree that 3% is too much, the other nerf was enough imo. But Warlock is so broken right now beside the demon form that people would cry about a warlock buff (and that's understandable)

[jolly leaf]

Imo for the warlock ⁠#game-discussion message⁠ / https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to would be a good rework/nerf. Then you can balance the Demon

[twin hill]

@keen onyx as of right now you cant click on a name to block them. In trade/Gathering hall bots spam messages. They spam then leave real fast making it hard to click on their Character rectangle on the right to block them.

[cosmic moss]

I've been reading and personally I don't agree, I think it's being misfocused, and focusing on cures as if they were bandages is stupid. I've been playing with witches all my life in wow, diablo, etc. and the premise is always the same, losing health in exchange for power, I don't need to kill for it. I see a different approach and I will try to explain myself, although it is very simple, witches who want to focus on spells and magical healing should not be able to use the demonic form, and those who want to use the demon form, should not be able to use the torture mastery, it's that simple, if you want to use the demon, you get a build more of a melee warrior but with magic damage, and if you want to go completely to magic damage, healing, etc., then you should have the torture mastery perk disabled, and even if it were crying. Personally, I would also eliminate the possibility of using weapons in demon mode, it should be as before, with a pure blow, but with damage scaling depending on the weapon you have, and the same with the attack speed, but without the possibility of blocking attacks

[cosmic moss]

Another thing that occurs to me so that people don't cry is that when you transform into a demon, in addition to receiving 1% damage, you are also weaker to divine damage, that is, the cleric's spells do 10% or 15% more damage, so you would have a defined counter, and there would be less crying, but personally I am tired of so much crying, I never complained about any class, not even when the fighter farmed the rest of the classes.

[jolly leaf]

I understand but it's already kinda like this. Yes you can do a half curse / half demon build, but most of the time people go all in on a build. And imo half/half build are not the problem, the problem are full magical damage/healing. Curse build are too strong, way too strong. You can be fast, full heal in a matter of second, even if you get caught you have phantomize or flame walker. It need to be either nerfed or rework. And I think a rework would be better than a nerf. Make the heal only on kill or only for recoverable health could solve the issues. I don't say it's the solution but it would be nice to try if it work or not.

[jolly leaf]

Right now the issues is really not the Demon build. Imo they're well balanced but the 3% life every second make it unplayable. Put back the 1 or 1.5% every second and the demon build could be really fun

[jolly leaf]

One small nerf that can be tried before a rework like I want could be to remove the Spellbook to the Warlock. One of the main issues about warlock is that they're too fast and can kite too much. Imo restrict them from using Spellbook and nerf very sligthly the Crystal ball, like -1 magic damage to each tier

[cosmic moss]

Maaan for this reason i say that torture mastery would be removed when you use a demon form, its simple...if you want play with demon, your healing skills will be weakness

[jolly leaf]

Yes but that's what i'm saying I don't care of the Torture mastery / demon combo. My issues is with the Torture mastery build only

[cosmic moss]

I don't know man, I never use torture mastery because I hate that my spells cost 3 times more, so I don't know how to tell you, I don't use ghost form or flame walker either... you can lower the healing scaling, or the time it takes to heal yourself That it's slower, I honestly don't care, but that they give the demon back its 1% damage, not 3%, that's crazy xD

[jolly leaf]

We are agree about the 3%. But trust me the Warlock is broken and should be nerfed/reworked

[cosmic moss]

It will be broken depending on what you play, I personally play Cleric and Barbarian in addition to Warlock, and I rarely had problems with these classes, most of the time they fall easily because I counter them, it is clear that if you are a Rogue, Fighter, or wizard it is a pain to kill a warlock, but these games work like that bro xD

[lapis sundial]

I think softer nerf but solving the same issues of infinite resets if fight goes badly for warlock would be making phantomise a single use only until campfire. Wouldn't impact warlock gameplay too much, but it would allow to have decisive fight against them

[jolly leaf]

Well the warlock you faced might not be really good then. Except if you play a full move speed Barbarian, a good Warlock won't let you get near of him. Same against a Cleric. I know this game is supposed to be a Rock,Paper,Scissor but right now the Warlock is a fucking gun

[sullen sparrow]

Why do campfires replenish abilities with a fixed amount of uses like second wind but not smoke bomb?

[jolly leaf]

Because (There is no good reason)

[sullen sparrow]

It seems not intended but idk

[jolly leaf]

It is intended. And it have been like that forever

[unborn terrace]

smoke pot used to be a cool down with no charges iirc. so they probably never thought to add it

[sullen sparrow]

That's what I thought

[meager void]

Instead of the multiclassing system, why not just let people spec into a specific 2ndary class, where they can choose between armor and weapon proficiencies NOT RNG IDIOCY LIKE THEY HAD WITH MULTICLASSING THAT WAS A STRAIGHT UP STUPID IDEA

So For Example, as a Barbarian I could Multiclass train Wizard.

Tier 1: Robes Shoes Hat Sword Rondel Magic Staff Crystal Ball

Tier 2 (Requires at least 3-5 points spent in Tier 1): Perks

Tier 3 (Requires at least 3-5 points spent in tier 2): Spells and Skills

This way if you wanted to play some kinda everyman you could be a wizard in plate, with a bardiche, only going for tier 1 Fighter and Barbarian Perks, or a more specialized Multiclass going entirely down one tree

You could be a Real Paladin Cleric, With all the Nice Weaponry Fighters have, as well as some shield mastery or sprinting

[odd halo]

delete rogue

[tranquil dagger]

remove knowledge requirement from invis potions

[jolly leaf]

There's better way than just removing it. They'll never do that but we can make suggestion to rework it. This one is really good imo https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[somber elk]

delete warlock

[jolly leaf]

Same that the other earlier. That's not the solution, they'll never remove a class. It's smarter to make suggestion to rework or nerf it like this one https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563786/why-torture-mastery-is-toxic-for-the-game-and-class-and-should-be-removed-how-to or this #game-discussion message

[lunar narwhal]

druids should have to spec into either the caster side or animal side. they should not be allowed to have the best of both worlds. simple as

[soft nebula]

for every character lvl 20+ you should have an accountwide xp boost of 20% up to lvl 20 on characters below that level

[arctic fjord]

personally i dont feel like the 1->15/20 "grind" is very much, but i do see some merit in the idea of having some kind of "assisted catch-up" mechanic for starting a new character.

[soft nebula]

i like running builds and high roller, normals are just very boring to some people, and lvl 1-9 are just really boring in terms of perks

[woven copper]

Gear score matchmaking suggestion here: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563964/gear-score-based-matchmaking

[sullen sparrow]

Lvl 1-9 is 2 games. The current rate of xp gained is plenty fast getting to lvl 20

[marble goblet]

suggestion : ranger sucks, fix him

[fresh heath]

There is an issue with the new mid tier lobby where people are bringing all copper light to stay within the gear score as the gear score is a fraction of what it should be for such items. This seems to be common with rogues in solo lobbies as they can have 124 gear score and no one can compete.

[jolly leaf]

Yep that was one of my concern about gearscore this season. Crafted item should have a higher gear score as they have 2 random attribute. They should cost less a bit less than a blue item

[latent tusk]

Have insta kits ready to change with the stats on the side, something like lockers in rust

[desert lodge]

Default voice chat to on so everyone can talk at first start

[modest wing]

Bring back battle royale for high rollers only.... so noobs can be noobs and high rollers can still enjoy forced pvp interactions

[jolly leaf]

The game is not meant to be too PvP or have forced PvP. I've talked about that here #q-and-a message

Or have a cooldown or something. I think most of the player are agree about that. Druid morph is too spamable right now

[modest wing]

having battle royale for high rollers means you can choose to be in a pvp environment or in a non pvp environment.... the game is unplayable boring without pvp interactions. I get allowing noobs to explore and avoid pvp, but high rollers was literally all about going in geared and expecting pvp interactions, crouching multiple times to claim friendly, or run away.

[jolly leaf]

Well not really. The game have never been meant to be BRish or have that much PvP and better than putting back the zone adding objective on the map to create choke point are a better way to improve both PvP a'd PvE. But anyway IM is working on an Arena (Full PvP) game mode for people like you

@final stone Exactly, take a look at that and upvote if you like https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

[modest wing]

well then why not make all the escape points located in a central location.... that way there's no zone closing in, but escaping is higher risk of PVP

There needs to be something to force pvp in high rollers more frequently..... it made the game fun and coming back to the way it is I feel ripped off

a separate arena mode sounds cool in a way, but I miss having to watch out for pvp interactions and the high risk high reward that was high rollers

[jolly leaf]

Again, the goal is not to force people to PvP. That's fun for you not for everyone. That's why I'll keeping saying it but : Objective on the map

[jolly leaf]

But I agree that portal and escape may be too much on the side of the map

[quick plover]

Can Cleric please have a 1 H Anhk of Life casting offhand?

[wise wing]

NERF CLERIC AND DRUID

[jolly leaf]

If you have any suggestions about that we'll be happy to here them. Rework or nerf. If you have interesting idea you can make a suggestion on the website like this one https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[static gazelle]

With wyvern fight being 4+ players, allow resurrection to revive any and all players

[plush tulip]

Show healing numbers on prelobby dummies? That would be awesome

[west furnace]

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[meager void]

Buff idea:

Make lantern shield do 5 more damage, and increase it's impack resistance to 6, it's harder to pull off the parry if your guard isnt broken, and it should be a high risk high reward maneuver. Currently it's impact resist is so low it's easy to pull it off, it doesn't do as much damage as a normal sword swing, and it will make you trade because most weapons hit through it or are fast enough to hit again even if it doesnt break

[jolly leaf]

It a small shield so it's logical that the impact resistance is low. Right now it's 3 it could be 4 but it's shouldn't be more imo. There's 2 thing who could be buff tho. 1st the move speed penalty, I think -16 or -17 would be enough. 2nd the move speed reduction when you block, this is the most stupid change. When you're blocking with the lantern shield your move speed is divided by 2 (actually it's multiplied by 0.5), that's worst than the Pavise who's x0.6. it should be i'n between the Round shield (x0.75) and the buckler (x0.90) so you are faster while blocking. Also it would combo better with the figther shield perk that way

[meager void]

Buckler has 6, and it's a small shield. The idea is that youre parrying and the Lantern Shield has a spike on the center, not too dissimilar of an idea imo

[jolly leaf]

Yes and that's an aberration. The buckler shouldn't have 6 impact resistance and we don't know why he have so much (The round shield is 4 and the heater 5. The buckler should max be 4 even 3)

[meager void]

(It's because the idea is that you're parrying not blocking, bucklers don't block in real life they are specifically designed to deflect a sword hit away and counterattack, that is why they have a rounded boss where the hand goes, it's not an abberation its literally the reason the shield exists at all, plus for how small it is it's low key a reward for being a skilled blocker)

[jolly leaf]

Maybe but with how the game work right now you get less staggered when blocking a Cave Troll hit with a buckler than a Heater shield. Or even just a war maul hit. The Impact resistance have real implication in the game it's not just here for the timing of riposte. I trust what you say about deflecting sword and not block hit and an impact power of 4 is enough for that, but what about the big 2 handed weapon ? Right now the buckler dont get stagger much by a bardiche, war maul, or any weapon actually

It just don't make sense that the buckler have 6 impact resistance. Same than the Lantern shield should not divide your move speed by 2 when blocking (that's worst than the Pavise xd)

[meager void]

So that and the 3 impact resist I think is because its a shield with a riposte, and they thought it would be too OP so they overcorrected

[vestal sigil]

This where I put game suggestionjs?

[cinder rover]

So many people want rogue re work or to remove the invis.. if that happens they should remove it from wizard and bard also

[jolly leaf]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons I agree, this would be a very good rework imo. Upvote if you like it

[small ibex]

While I don't think invis should just be ripped out or reworked I do feel like there should be a direct counter in the form of a utility that everyone can use. I came up with the concept of sensory pots. it allows you to be notified if anyone is around you and it stays the same volume whether you are getting close to someone or farther. It's either that or nerf Ambush.

[jolly leaf]

Yes here and on the website (like here https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons)

[warm willow]

I hope they add lower graphics settings, like Doom arcade but also balanced lighting to match high graphics out of fairness

[cosmic holly]

Are devs planning on making something like hideout system?

[tepid orchid]

What would that be?

[cosmic holly]

Like the same as in Tarkov, so we can sink our hard earned gold into something other than better gear

[tepid orchid]

So like a personal room or something?

[warm willow]

I like hiding inside those trolls (I'm wizard), like a raidable base????? Personal dungeons/castles??? o____o That'd be cool. Temporary memory space taken until leaving though, I'm not tech savvy

[granite plinth]

When u add the next sword please name it mákhaira. To follow the theme with pestilence. With the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse.

[cinder rover]

This is great. I have been talking about other pots also, speed pots, melee dmg pots, magic pots or anything really. Some would be busted but would need fine tuning. Would add a whole another level to the game

[limber sinew]

Please lower dark offering cooldown to 25 seconds

[soft acorn]

buff rogues and bards please they are so weak

[jolly leaf]

Many people won't agree with you on that one xD. Rogues (in solo at least) and bard are really good right now. Actually a lot of people even ask for a nerf/rework of the Hide build of rogue (There is a really good suggestion to replace hide build right now https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons)

[graceful jetty]

Bro thinks anyone cares about invis its only rogues lmao wizard invis already got gutted

[ripe turtle]

What do guys think of having a different system to affect how you can loot quest items that is not affected by luck or loot system in general? This way nobody's stacking luck just to realise you're wasting time grinding certain items.

[proud turtle]

Are druid heals going to scale with magical healing in the future? (obviously apart from dreamfire)

[jolly leaf]

No one know, I had the idea of a Shapeshift that reduce move speed and health but make your spell scale or be more powerful (like a Owlkin of Wow)

[proud turtle]

That is a genius idea, I would love to see Owlkin in dark and darker. this would also allow healer mains to have another class to perfect when cleric inevitably becomes boring after the 200th game.

[jolly leaf]

[carmine knoll]

hey i play alot and have a total playtime of 830 hours im completely happy with the development of the game even tho alot of players critize alot for no reason but the blue crystall ball quest is so random its mildly annoying. i found 2 so far and play more than one character with all quests. i cant even come come to finishing this quest on 2 characters and i cant even grind for it as it is random. maybe consider changing it to any rarity?

[gaunt iron]

💯 Primary Weapon - 1H - Wand - 10 Magic Damage - Ranged (looks like a Torch, activates like the animation for Goblin Wizard, with similar effect) Cleric/Druid only🪄

maybe balance it with charges that replenish while sitting,campfire, or just slowlyover time while standing/moving

[gaunt iron]

since chicken is trash, that should get replaced with like a Mushroom, owlkin, moonkin, etc.

[mellow arrow]

Im trying to play Dark and darker with controller.but i dont want the built ingame stuff. i want to map my own with xpadder.becus i cant use my inventory with the ingame/steam one. i want to map right stick to mouse. HOW can i disble this ingame one?

[pale ruin]

Lmao nah chicken is goated

[orchid herald]

Suggestion 1, when potion bottles are used, goes into inv as empty glass bottle, can be refilled at respective shrines: shrine of health fills into healing pots, protection shrine into protection pots etc. Empty bottles dropped will smash and make a loud noise. Hopefully this would give shrines a more prominent area of the map

[jolly leaf]

That's a good idea, you can make a suggestion of that on the websitehttps://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

[orchid herald]

Done! thank you

[jolly leaf]

You can send it here some time so people upvote it

[orchid herald]

Second suggestion:

When meditating, when it runs out, it keeps you sat down as normal. Furthermore, when you are sat down as normal, you should be able to go into a meditative state

[cosmic moss]

Another suggestion, one more invocation could be added to the warlock to replace the hydra, in the end it gets tiring to always carry the same minion, an example could be a gargoyle or an imp, I would also like the hydra to have a little more health although it They reduce the damage, basically it is used to annoy.

[light plank]

My only suggestion: for the training sub menu in your class set up, make a system where you can level up your base stats depending on how many levels you have. (For example, every 10 or 5 levels you can upgrade one of your base stats by 1, such as strength or agility. so if your default character originally had 10 strength, it would now be default 11) this would make it so leveling up your character has more purpose after level 20, and could allow for further optimization for each build and class. I would also say maybe you have like a limit of how many times you can upgrade each stat, as in you can only upgrade each stat up to +10 of its base (as to not make it super op). SIDE NOTE: i think there already working on some idea for the training menu, but i think this would be a good addition to the game, curious to see how people feel about it.

[charred steeple]

This game is great, but as QoL suggestion please improve the in-game descriptions of spells, casts, skills etc. not being able to read some conditions that are required for some spells or cast times is incredibly annoying especially having to navigate the wiki for such data.

[jolly leaf]

That could be a good idea but it will result in player who play a lot stomping even more (because they already have the best/more loot most of the time) the player who play only the weekend etc

[median wave]

Why is there no timer in HR? It's still the same time limit, this feels like it should be a toggle option than a feature in HR

[jolly leaf]

Same time you just don't have the countdown

[median wave]

Yeah that's what I mean, it should be an toggle option instead, I don't need to see the timer in norm either since the bar underneath it runs anyway

[gaunt iron]

💯 ** Primary Weapon - 1H - Wand - 10 Magic Damage - Ranged (looks like a Torch, activates like the animation for Goblin Wizard, with similar effect) Cleric/Druid only**🪄

[light plank]

yeah tbh, that is the one thing that would be bad about it, one work around could be having matchmaking with players similar level, but it my eyes gear is already a one form of creating that huge gap between players, so theres an argument there ig. I just think it would be a good idea for your characters to have greater optimization and this is a way of doing it without losing class identity like we saw with multiclassing.

[fiery isle]

This was just an idea my friend brought up, but what if the classes with magic had a mana pool and mana costs instead of spell ammo? I think it would make those classes more fun to play, as you don't have to sit down after every fight. Like you have a set amount and maybe regen, which knowledge could contribute to. Then also add mana potions. Idk, just an idea that I think would make those classes more enjoyable and would take out the tedious pauses in fights if you run out of spells.

[jolly leaf]

Could be cool to solve the sitting after every fight issues but I don't know if it'll fit. The "ammo" like you said allow to have like 15-20 spell to throw to kill someone. Whit a mana bar I don't feel like it should allow you to use that much spell in a fight but that would mean a "nerf" of the wizard. The rework would help in some way but make the wizard worst in PvP and he's already one of the weakest right now. The idea is cool but I don't know if it fit or can be adapted to this game. I don't know if I made myself clear on this one xD

[fiery isle]

I get what you mean, Maybe along side mana, someone suggested adding a cd to each spell as well. Give a bigger cd to the stronger ones and less to the weaker ones. I think that would make it somewhat fair

[jolly leaf]

Well depend how the mana regen is balanced it would be either, you don't have enough spell to handle a long fight or you regen too much and have infinite spell (That we already had in the past with mana potion and wizard was broken)

[jolly leaf]

Yeah maybe but that would be a whole wizard rework and ask for a lot of work to balance it

[fiery isle]

yeah, thats true. Was just something interesting I thought about. I'm pretty new so I don't know what was in the game prior but if there were issues before than I understand removing that system.

[jolly leaf]

Well it was the actual system but with potion that recharge your spell even when you'r standing and walking/fighting so it's was similar to what your suggestion would look like

[meager void]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564610/lizard-and-lycan-fixes

Fixes to make the Lycan and Lizard at the very least a viable alternative that scales equivalent to if you just had a helmet on anyway, downside is no armor or headshot reduction from having no helmet

[jolly leaf]

I agree with you but 10% Will Knowledge and Dex might be a bit too much xD

[meager void]

Sure, three stats is a tad crazy, at least two tho, not having the helmet for headshot reduction and armor is like, kinda crazy bad as soon as you get to greens and above, especially in their current state with NO stats

[jolly leaf]

I think a 15-20% vigor for Lycan and a X% armor for Lizard would be enough

[jolly leaf]

For lycan I agree. Maybe like 5% Agi Strengh vigor

But for the Lizard I think a % of your armor and headshot prot is enough

[meager void]

I just think of lizards as being smart and stealthy thats why I gave them those stats but youre also not taking into account the loss of blue text rolls, thats why I gave them multiple stat ups, losing out on + magic damage or whatever off a green or blue helmet is really bad

[placid garden]

Suggestion. Eliminate character names and just have a singular unique account wide identifier/name

[proven valley]

IronMace removed weapon damage stacking because it was too strong... but then they added DRUID! Each point of agi on Druid is equivalent to 1 weapon damage on left click and 1.5 on right click. 44 agility druid right click is like swinging a 66 weapon damage weapon at someone. For context, a legendary war maul has 57, and druid attacks at more than twice the rate.

Fix this^

[meager void]

After fighting both a Phantomizing warlock and a druid, ngl I think those ethereal mechanics should be flat out removed from the game, or be on a campfire timer, just terrible game design jeez

[buoyant gate]

15-20% is kind of insane cause you’ll end up with 250+ health barbs combined with the perk

[jolly leaf]

Well I don't play barb a lot how much Vigor can you get with a good build? (And without the helmet if you play the vigor helmet)

[buoyant gate]

15-20% is kind of insane cause you’ll end up with 250+ health barbs combined with the perk

Idk why it sent twice lol but you have like almost 150 base + 15% vigor perk already so it would just be wild

[jolly leaf]

Yeah maybe but no helmet mean no other stat. It would mean a lot of hp with a good gear but no other stat than HP

Well actually with 50 vigor (that's should be like a lot of vigor) 15% more would make you hit a cap in the vigor scaling. So 15% of vigor on a base of 50 would be 7.5 vigor, and that mean 7.5 max hp. That's actually ok. Even before the cap in the scaling with 40 you'll win 9 max hp with 15% vigor from the skin. It's actually pretty decent. @buoyant gate

[torn herald]

Let us warlocks turn lootable containers into PortKeys into other rooms that we've been into.

[light plank]

and just coming back to this comment now, multiclassing kind of did the exact same thing (being that it made players who played more have an advantage), but to a much greater extent, now tbf multiclassing got removed but primarily because it ruined class identity, but it still was way to op don't get me wrong. idk i just really struggle with the fact that there is yet to be a very good long time goal for each character besides just getting stacked, i think there needs to be more to the game than just gear and this would be a small step in that direction.

[light plank]

the idea i have is pretty simple and i bet a fair bit of players have thought of the exact same thing, im kinda rambling here but i really wish i could actually pitch this idea to the devs and not just submit it in this channel, chances are they never really read through this

[jolly leaf]

Yep they don't read this channel it's in the rule but you can make a real suggestions here https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

And post it here or in #game-discussion / #the-tavern sometime so people can upvote it

[light plank]

alright thanks man

yeah im curious to what the community will think about it

[jolly leaf]

But again your idea is cool but might be unfair/hard to balance, like even for people who play a lot if you play multiple class it will be hard to get those extra stat point o' every class. Maybe base it on Fame lvl so everyone got them at some point but then it'll just be a new base stat and lose the interest of lvl up

[jolly leaf]

Oh and don't take seriously the people who just answer "Your idea dumb" or shit like that. It's almost useless to answer them unfortunately, i tried that already

[jolly leaf]

Maybe more than fame we should have a global account lvl (that reset each wipe) that could be used for your extra stat point, like that if you otp one character or play several you can have those extra point based on this Account lvl. It could also be used for a Skill based matchmaking too (but imo gearscore is better if well balanced)

[light plank]

on a side note, the problem now is that their r so many suggestions higher than mine that it would never be seen lol. but yeah i mean you could do it all sorts of ways with fame ect. my idea on how they would work it in with matchmaking is that players our matched with others in the general same level, with the player base the game has now they could def tweak the matchamking in all sorts of ways.

[sleek temple]

So basically what about gold ore? a lot of new players just cant do firsdt quest of armorer because 2m ago you just can go to inferno and mine some now you must kill 2 boses, mine this and extract what is nearly impossible to even most of medium time players so they cant done first freaking quest from armorer and its so stupid... anyway a lot of things have broken difficulty level like one first lvl quest tell you "go and one hit that squishy mob" other say "do 2 bosses dont die mine and risk being killed after all dont die again and extract" XD its so stupid imagine in first job someone want from you to find a cure for cancer

sorry weapon smith* and why they delete the ruin map...

[jolly leaf]

They've changed the quest now it's gold ingot and you can buy them. (And you'r not forced to kill the boss you can kill the guy who clear them)

[jolly leaf]

And ruin is being reworked it should come back (hopefully with the next wipe)

[sleek temple]

chance of find someone who actually mine this and kill him is low as hell, be pushed to buy gold ingot what is freaky high cost (cause of this quest and how hard is to get gold ore by timmy/ medium play time players

is such a stupid idea and ignorance

[jolly leaf]

Well I don't feel the same way. Imo if you'r focusing that you can manage to get them. And I don't think it is that expensive. What's the price of gold ore like less than 1k for 5? It's ok imo

[sleek temple]

1500 fro 5 so i need 2 and dont have such money to give 1/2 of my gold for 2 ingots for qest XD if you on higher playtime lvl and do everything easy it can be no proboblem for you but it is for 3/4 of players who dont study this game or play at the start to this day

[jolly leaf]

You need 3 ore for one ingot. So 6 ore. So it's more around 1.8k gold I think it's affordable

[sleek temple]

stash cost 1500 gold you probably dont hear yourself for new players 1800 gold is like being rich XD idk why you such protaect how stupid that qest is but ok

[jolly leaf]

And I feel like you underestimate new player. 1500 gold is really not that much, especially when you dob't have much stash space and sell almost everything. And I don't defend that quest i'm just saying that it's really not that hard

[lean jungle]

@sleek temple git gud

[plain compass]

adding the ability to buy and gift races and emotes to friends. is a good make money suggestion

[little acorn]

add a block/mute botton for the gathering hall asap

[gray folio]

add a explosive bottle to squire after gaining affinity with woodsman or tavernmaster, if ur gonna keep rat form the way it is then at least let people spawn in with its only counter thats available for all classes.

[sterile gale]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564648/thief-double-jump-pickpocket-rogue-18-move-speed-hurts-my-soul any other pickpockets agree?

[sleek temple]

sure i have one more suggestion for you make bacstab one hit no matter what XD

[sterile gale]

seems bit extreeme for me

[sleek temple]

your suggestion is kinda sided so why not making him overpower so we gonna see only rogue in lobbys

[sterile gale]

why do you think its overpowered?

[sterile gale]

genuinely curious

[violet plinth]

was reading the most recent #dev-qna and they were talking about Paladins being added, how'd that work

[sterile gale]

i wonder if it means they might drop plate from cleric

[sterile gale]

or turn it into a perk maybe

[violet plinth]

A Paladin imo is just full plate cleric right??
I have no idea how they'd make a paladin

[sterile gale]

I see what you mean, they might have to redefine what a paladin even is to make it fit

[violet plinth]

maybe go for oaths as spells/perks that define the armor proficiency and some of the stats? Oath of Revenge meaning massive damage (+STR) but less plate armour?

[frigid wagon]

we seriously need the ranks back. why are wanders up against voyager adn demigods

game is punishing new players for trying to learn high roller. why are new players getting matched with the top players? no successful game with a rank system allows veteran players to run over and destroy new players in a competitive game mode. it makes the competition seem pointless.

[sterile gale]

could be interesting

[sterile gale]

would you mind checking out my post and telling me your thoughts? https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564648/thief-double-jump-pickpocket-rogue-18-move-speed-hurts-my-soul

[jolly leaf]

Because they're are in a "Keep the free player" strategy imo and that's kinda bad. Because they give them too much privilege to the detriment of HR imo. They need to assume and affirm that the Squire version is a Trial, a Demo, it's here so new player can try the game and buy it.

Imo they should make the Normal mode lock to common gear like it used to and do 3 bracket of gearscore in HR only. Grey to Green/Blue (with one or 2 blue piece) -> Green/Blue to Blue/Purple (With 1 or 2 purple piece) -> And everything above that.

We don't have enough player to make gearscore in both normal and HR and imo HR should be seen like the main game mode, they should incentive people to go there more. Right now they're doing the opposite letting people using gear in normal, adding Gearscore bracket only in normal

I don't say we should remove everything to Squire version it's even the opposite I think they should have already had the regional pricing, and imo a 2nd character slot available for loke 5-10k gold would have been good.
There is thing to do, but right now I feel like they're going the wrong way and lose time trying to please new player, and balancing thing around those change (and there is also thing like the new AP system, it was a good idea imo, it was made around new player and would have incentive them to play HR while learning the game. And they didn't even try to balance it, straight to the trash. That's sad imo)

[formal plank]

Removing the portal and zone was a really poor decision. Why would players fight each other now, other than for loot? The motive to fight other players is gone, resulting in a boring experience where you just fight monsters and leave. The zone provided a reason for PvP, and fight for the protals. If I only need to fight boring monsters, which I've done a thousand times already, what's the point of playing this game? The depth of PvP in this game was so good, and now you've wasted it.

What fun would games like Hunt: Showdown or Tarkov be if players could only fight AI and bosses?

[misty pollen]

fighti9ng players is fun bro

[sleek temple]

Man ++++ and another question is why "gear score" is so fucked up i back to game after hard break and full set is grey only green curve bow on my ranger, join lobby and see full geared in purples and legendary cobalt cleric and other in lobby are like full gear in blue/ purples so where is the point? One mistake and you are down, they just can rush you and you can do nothing about it XD

It should be like if your gearscore is like 150 you should be in lobby with gearscore for the example +/- 80 up/dpwn

not like "oh you bring green shitty weapon? so cute try this full geared in epic lobby

IN GAME where gear makes SUCH a difference

its not tarkov where you can shoot head eyes even with most basic weapon and have +/- 50/50 chances

if you have junk and play vs other guy in really good stuff you probably dont deal such dmg and he 1-2 shot you XD

and yeah in that lobbys arent random purple shit they wear builds like +2 psychical on all or magical dmg or other stacked stats

[sleek temple]

on higher rtank you will get really nice gold or stuff to wear figthing others. Zone is shit af it feels such fortnite style or other battle royals, rush you in point that you doesnt want to go, bringing half eq in medicines blah blah but yeah i feel they should put some dynamic in game just some changes and you have on maps "points of interest" where 3/4 players try to go cause of loot and provits from there

[formal plank]

That's right

[sleek temple]

i really like enjoy they will make this game less linear some of linear things are really good like mobs movement that you gonna learn, map locations but man putting ores in 2 spots ok may they want to make another "point of interest" on map but running all the time in one spot and have the same ores is so boring and annoying i prefer vision of that you start the adventure on raid and in more random spots all around map can find some ores

you wanna mining you pick a pickaxe and search it will make them less spamed by farmers :v and boring

[sleek temple]

they have really big problem in this as i see bad "gear score" system or just numbers its just not balanced to start adventure with this game, put on green sword and see lobby with full geared guys in rare/epic high roller is just for people who are bored on normals and another thing on normall gamemode you will see geared as hell guys trying to boost they ego on timmys that die vs spider mummy. Normals should be for learning the patterns of mobs and more chill game BUT, you know they do a "free to play" that should be named "demo version" of this game and if they do what i wrote up free players have more restriction ... they start doing a lot of bad decisions in past few months

Did they even watch the suggestion site? or maybe it is newer option to wrote a suggestion? cause i see the top are from 2023 and i doent really know if the suggestion web is sill an option

[light trench]

Ye, i agree. Dungeon with circles was very fan and dynamic.
Now i feel bored, you may not run into people at all, or u have to search for them all over the map..
Maybe there is a chance that they will return at least to the crypt?

[prime fern]

I would really like if playerpools were added to queues. For example it will show how many people have been playing or are in trio matches or duo matches.

[sleek temple]

I've made a list of ideas and suggestions divided into several parts on the official ironmace suggestions page. I put them in the links below, take a look and if you like any of them, vote for it in the comment and boost the post. 🙂

1. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564678/some-ideas-and-suggestions-to-vote-by-players-part-1
2. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564682/some-ideas-and-suggestions-to-vote-by-players-part-2
3. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564683/some-ideas-and-suggestions-to-vote-by-players-part-3
4. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564685/some-ideas-and-suggestions-to-vote-by-players-part-4 (in this one the last one idea is in comment)

[warm willow]

Randomized dungeon rooms as gear score value goes up + rng roaming events themed to the current map?

[jolly leaf]

I really don't like the idea of randomized room, it just annoying imo. The game is still the same, when you enter a room you still do the same thing, the skeleton archer is still at the same place. It's just harder to navigate in the map and find exit. What could be interesting tho whould be random monster spawn. Where a Yeti could spawn now they're is a frost giant. For a Skeleton archer you can have a wolf or stuff like that. That would change how you interact with different room and how you play every game

[somber elk]

NEXT PATCH IS ARENA MODE CONFIRMED SOURCE TRUST ME BRO

[jolly leaf]

Imo I would prefer the new matchmaking system. With a correct gear score system on HR

[vale hamlet]

I like the 3 gs bracket system but I think a good idea is similar gs instead. Im kinda having a struggle liking >125 gs matchmaking since you can get matched with 400 gs which is sweaty and strong. Im not good at coding so this might look like spaghetti but I've tried my best in coming up with a rough idea on how it might be implemented(probably has mistakes) https://shrib.com/#Justin6Gpy8P2

[upper epoch]

I would love to see a higher currency added such as platinum to help better manage large amounts of wealth. As i see it now people use skull keys and gold keys as large currency and I think adding a platinum currency would help with the inflation of the value of these items

Separately, I think it would be great if we could hover over the small icons at the bottom of our screen that indicate our buffs and debuffs and get a small pop up describing what it is. Too many times there's been a picture down there and i cant place its origin. similarly you could hover over the active effects above your teammates portrait and see explicitly what is goin on with them

[frigid wagon]

I get the player base is low but still give newer players who buy the game and want to play high roller a chance. Make there be two sections where the top 3 ranks can only go against the top 3 ranks or something. Rn there is a really unhealthy monopoly in ranked bc good players ran run through raids farming players (bc they can go for new players on their top accounts) and bosses and basically boost their numbers for free

[uneven jasper]

SAO PAULO SERVER, THERE ARE MANY PLAYERS PLAYING, BUT ALL THE LOBBIES ARE EMPTY, YOU NEED TO FIX THIS, EVERYONE PLAYING ON AN EMPTY MAP, AND NOBODY FALLS ON THE SAME MAP TO FACE EACH OTHER

[frigid wagon]

As high roller stands atm there is no way for a new player to have a fighting chance in high roller. or if they are going to insist on the gear score for some delusional reason as more brackets. Why is the cut off 25? Make it 25-110 and another 111 and up

Stop favoring the veterans so much if you want any chance at getting a bigger player base. New players can’t compete so why would they. They need to bring back zone to encourage pvp and discourage farm routes. And they need to make the game over all more even for players to have fighting chances.

[vapid swan]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564736/otto-need-friend
Cat lovers , what you think ? 🙂

[jolly leaf]

Sry I don't want to be rude but you are getting everything wrong. There is a 25-124 bracket in normal now. Until this wipe every change they did was to favorise new/free player, they did it too much imo. People think the game is free and that Legendary player are pay to win. Except the game was here 1 year and a half before the steam release. The game is not free, the Squire version is a Demon. But by giving acces to gear in normal mode and partial acces to the market place people don't see the need to buy the game anymore. That's what I was saying. And I agree with you that HR is kinda unfair for new player and that why I suggested to add 3 layer of gearscore in HR, and only to HR. Normal mode is where you learn the game, it used to be retricted to common gear only and the wasn't a problem before the Steam release. Some people even liked the old Normal better than HR because white gear restriction allowed more balanced and fair fight.

I'll repost my suggestion about gearscore if you want to read it again : Imo they should make the Normal mode lock to common gear like it used to and do 3 bracket of gearscore in HR only. Grey to Green/Blue (with one or 2 blue piece) -> Green/Blue to Blue/Purple (With 1 or 2 purple piece) -> And everything above that.

Also Skill based matchmaking have been tried in the past and it wasn't really good thats why we have Gearscore now and they are trying to balance it

[jolly leaf]

And about that, really, no we don't want the zone back : #q-and-a message

[pastel bough]

Im been so curious about this question but when fighting the Lich if you have a purple circle do the skeletons and lich apply to the circle dividing the damage? does this not exist as a feature at all me and my friends have been arguing about it.

[jolly leaf]

No it have to be another player. Don't know if it work with Treant and Hydra tho

[pastel bough]

Oh okay thank you i am proven wrong

[sharp patio]

A boss hp bar visible for anyone inside the boss room would be nice

[limber elbow]

same physical damage resistance and magic damage resistance index, but for some reason Cleric is 50% more resistant to all damage than all other classes, for example fighter or barbarian, taking 1 hit from goblin loses 30% health or more but cleric only loses 5-10% health even though only has 120hp while Barbarian is 160hp with roburst while fighter also has 120hp but loses more than 30hp while cleric only loses the highest is 15-20hp

[near marsh]

barbarians lose 30% hp to a single goblin strike? u sure ur not just getting hit in the head?

based on the suggestions im reading, people want to play a different game and are trying to make that game this one.

[brazen token]

clerics have a perk that halves the duration of debuffs, including goblin poison, and a perk that reduces all damage taken by 3 (and that's per tick in the case of dots.) So yeah, they do take much less from goblins, but its completely due to perks.

[daring spire]

Ironmace will not give any discount for the summer offers? We are in the middle of the year

[somber elk]

ironmace = greedy

[novel tundra]

this f*cking game needs gear based matchmaking.. IT CANNOT BE RIGHT... that i just have to equip one flipping green items get a gear score of 26 and have to fight against 400+ geared dudes with purple shit only.

[somber elk]

soon probably

[sleek temple]

+++ they just fck this up

[graceful jetty]

you can equip up to 124 gear score before matching into people with 125+ lol

[solemn needle]

you know what should be the matchmaking element? Character level - you should match up to level 19 and gear below 25. After that should be free range

[tired karma]

they are testing "25-124 gear score" system for now

[uncut anchor]

add 1 minute to the timer because we gotta get out earlier than before with these changes. last seasons i could stay in till last second

[neon zodiac]

Petition to make "Copperlight Gauntlets" use the Light Gauntlets stats instead of the Heavy Gauntlets

[frigid wagon]

no offense taken I'm open to my mind being changed if presented with the right information.

how was skill based matchmaking not good? I cant speak for the community but i can speak for me and almost 10 others that it gear based matchmaking is far from fair and balanced. reason for it is gear "scales" with skill in an exponential rate. me in full purple 7/10 will die to a skilled player in green/blue . just as i can be in started gear and wipe players with less then 100 hours regardless of gear. this is why "gear based matchmaking" cant be balanced. it also begs the question why should the average player even get good gear? bc as the match making stands right now they will just get thrown into a lobby with crazy players who know how really play the game. i mean to compare this is like if apex legends the second you got a gun with full attachments tped you into a lobby with master and preds when you are only as good as the golds.

and for normals I don't think players would complain with allowing green gear into it, but I do agree that its not a good change to allow any gear(excluding unique) into normals

also when was the bracket introduced? bc last night i ran a highroller in gear score of like 80 and died to a full purple and legendary dude. who was a voyager

nvm just saw u said normal mb there

[jolly leaf]

There is no bracket in High roller right now

[frigid wagon]

realized that after! sorry

[jolly leaf]

I'll try to answer that. Here how I see thing : for me Skill based matchmaking mean that you will play versus player of your lvl but not the same gear. And gear score mean that you can face people better than you but with the same gear. So in reality it's a choice. Do you think you have more chance to win facing someone of your lvl but with better gear than you OR more chance to win versus someone who is better than you but with equivalent gear? Imo I think you have more chance to kill a better player with equivalent gear than a player your lvl but with better gear than you

And from what I remember that was the issues with Skill based matchmaking. Playing versus player of your lvl but with a gear difference didn't really worked.

The gear score matchmaking ended up being more balanced

[cosmic holly]

How about making it that Secondery Weapons can be used as primary? I would love to run around with two Short Sword instead a Short Sword and a Rapier

[jolly leaf]

It will cause issues with some perk like the rapier one of the Bard and the dual welding of Fighter. I think it would be too strong. Same we could see rogue with double hand crossbow (We don't want to see Rogue with double hand crossbow)

[frigid wagon]

i can honestly say during the first ranked season gear was never the true deciding factor in a fight. decision making and game knowledge won and lost me and my friends fights 9/10. yes if u get paired with full gold kitted dudes and your in blue its going to be annoying but that didn't happen in most lobbys until exemplar.

what i can say is the game state for high roller is toxic as all hell and not worth trying. doesnt mater what i wear or my rank im vrs voyagers and exemplars who are in better gear and are better at the game. so now they have allowed BOTH issues to effect players

[jolly leaf]

I got an other argument for gear score (sry i'll answer your respons after or i'll forgot xD). Many people are against the idea of leaderboard/ ranking because most of the time it force toxic behavior or ask to tryhard / a lot of time. And about that Gear score have one avantage one Skill based it's that if you want you can reach demi god in the low bracket with base to green gear. So you have a chance to reach the top rank and get the skin without fighting the animal of the higher gearscore bracket. While with Skill based if you'r not really good you'll get stuck to a rank and won"t be able to get every reward. I think it's important, we are not here to try hard grinding a leaderboard. We are here to gather loot and cool reward

[cosmic holly]

You don't need the dual wield on Fighter to play double sworded

[jolly leaf]

Well I prefer getting skilled checked than gear checked. they're is nothing worst than losing to someone who was worst or at the same "decision making/knowledge" than you but two shot you because he have better gear, at least for me. Ironically Gear score lead to skill being the most important thing. While Skill based matchmaking rely on who have the best gear. And about finding full gold kitted people in your lobby, at least for me (maybe on EU server only) I have clear memory that when I was playing normal with max purple gear allowed or HR (At the time when Ruins was the duo map) every game had one or two full purple gear team running on everyone in the lobby. And that was horrible. It was skill based matchmaking but in the end you had to have good gear too to kill those 2 full gear team if you wanted to rank up.

[jolly leaf]

Yeah right now it's hell. But I think in the end Gear score is better, you can stay in the low bracket to play versus more chill player and get the higher rank. While in Skill based you are forced to tryhard and force to have good gear, because, yes you are facing people of your level but if they have good gear you'r fucked. And you have to be really good at the game to reach the top rank and get the cool skin

[jolly leaf]

So? Did I convince you?

Reminder that this really cool suggestion about a Rogue rework to replace the Landmine build. Upvote it if you like the idea! We want that to be added : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

(And also this one who have good idea to add new point of interest to the map. It would benefit both PvE and PvP as it'll create new choke point to fight and loot : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem)

[forest hearth]

Not reading all this but your push for the master of poisons suggestion doesn't go unnoticed, keep fighting bro Lolo

[jolly leaf]

Don't worry xD I was debating with someone. Yeah the Debuff/control Rogue would be awesome imo. Don't forget to Upvote the suggestion

[jolly leaf]

I made this suggestion about reworking the warlock if you'r interested https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

[frigid wagon]

rewards lose value if everyone can just get them. idk i like ranked bc it makes putting effort in worth something. if you dont want to be competitive dont play that game mode. but for those who want to be competitive they should not be forced to fight out of their league. the highroller is also meant to be risky. the point is to take good gear in and fight the enviorment and other players also in and at their best (idealy in your league) i just guess we will have to agree to disagree with matchmaking bc i see some of your points but imo gear based is less fun in all aspects. (you dont get as much of a thrill outplaying better geared players)

i remember dying to full gold kits alot also but i also recall killing some of them and getting out and feeling like a god. they will never happen in egar based

[jolly leaf]

Agree to disagree then

[lunar narwhal]

Crystal sword needs to be changed to a one handed weapon or make me hold it with two hands. its wild to even consider it a two handed weapon when there are zero animations where I put two hands on it. I want to hold a lantern with my crystal sword!!!!!

[jolly leaf]

Or make the animation a little more fast / reduce the movement penalty a bit if it stay a two handed weapon.

[torn herald]

Love that sometimes AI archers shoot one, two, three times quickly. Can you make it more dynamic up to 5 shots? 10x the moveset surprises plz

[torn herald]

i wanna hold a new tradeable Crystal (proc from mining) w the crystal sword and have 200 diff affects from door smash to stunning enemies at the expense of dropping everything metal, and so on

[forest hearth]

upvoted

[harsh forge]

the three times is usually reserved for nightmares

[still lodge]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564837/character-level-restriction-instead-of-character-slot-restriction-free-version

[haughty torrent]

nerf bear

[worn lava]

when will you fix the aggro you have enemies coming at you around the corner distance away where you didnt aggro them but they still come at you or perhaps also fix enemies coming out of they rooms they are placed in you shouldn't allow mobs to be trained around the map once you leave the room they should loose aggro and then weirdly at times have mobs changing targets in the most bizarre ways all the time and it would be cool to see enemies do diff swing patterns that allow players to do more cool dodge moves instead of the generic move back

[silk willow]

I've been playing druid and a buddy been playing warlock and dream walk and phantasm should not be in the game due to the fact it gives you invulnerability sure the warlock can't fight back but they get a movement speed increase which they can just outrun you to a place where they can just spam spells again and druid still can cast spells which can still hurt your opponent defeating the purpose of them not being able to fight back, My personal belief is invulnerability shouldn't be in extraction base games which one wrong swing or shot can make you lose all of your loot you gathered.

[warm willow]

Automatic system reports for crashes in case of cheaters avoiding the report button? Kind of paranoid someone's trying to hijack this game and inject trojans from, tried reconnecting to a sus match and it just kept loading with no load bar

[warm willow]

or both + roaming scenarios

[crude meadow]

Can someone please tell me how to use the LFG function in looking for groups?

[faint ledge]

anyone know what the wyvern egg is worth

[glossy arch]

Using the marketplace is significantly better than it used to be, however I think a really nice QOL addition would be:

• When you right click on an item it automatically takes you to the same item being sold, giving you and idea of what the item is being sold for

Also, can we PLEASE get some kind of system whereby casters use Mana instead of spells, this system is used in classic games like Diablo where you use potions to top up your mana, instead of sitting on the ground for 5 minutes waiting for spells to return.

in Dungeonborne there seems to be a system where your mana recharges by simply killing enemies and having your mana topped up that way making the caster system much much much more fluid.

I love playing wizard when I do play it, but it is extremely boring having to use something like meditate or sitting on the floor, sure I can use a campfire however I am still out of the game technically because I can't do anything and it severely slows down progression.

[clever anvil]

Reducing the magic resistance provided by Will, enhancing already strong staves, and allowing wizzard to dominate in both close and long-range combat. They have nerfed the Cleric's physical attack bonus by 5%, Clerics still can chase down fighter as a surport class... Fighters gear is ridiculously cheap, and now they are even nerfing the magic resistance provided by Will. Are they trying to force everyone to play Longswords and become gambling addicts?

[fresh plinth]

Why not leave the rondel at 10% and nerf just stiletto to 5%? You add variety and nerf at the same time. Plus it’s historically accurate since rondels were designed to be used against armor while stilettos were more popular with criminals.

[clever anvil]

Fighters already have very poor game mechanics and limitations. Thanks for nerfing our only reliance, PDR and MDR, even though these can't prevent us from being kite to death.

[zinc dew]

hey this seems like a really good feature if yall are interested in it give it an upvote:
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/556098/marketplace-add-search-in-market-button

[lusty stream]

or better, a button that just sets the price to currently lowest offered price on market

[jolly leaf]

I'd prefer like 2 layout for each map who change every season + randomized mob

[sage hound]

Wizard Changes:
Wizard is in a very poor spot and does not feel like he is viable in most matchups and is simply outclasses by Warlock.

• Some sort of mana system and mana potions or passive recharge of spells should be introduced and could possibly be scaled with knowledge or magic power?
• Having to sit down just to recharge spells is incredibly BORING and tedious and not conducive to fun gameplay
• Wizard PvE is notoriously very poor. Casting spells is an option but then youre stuck sitting every 7 mobs you kill
• Wizard I believe has the lowest hp pool and extremely frail. Maybe slight buffs to one or some of the protective perks/abilities. If ice shield could last just 0.5s longer or increased slow on hit, it would help that much more against rogues ambushing
  This leads to the next problem that seems like there is never a solution for, Rogue.
  __Rogue Changes: __
• Weakpoint is too strong. The change that was made to lower armor pen on daggers by 5% is a start but rogues can currently blow up full PDR fighters by ignoring their PDR even if theyre capped on PDR. There is no world that this should exist.
• Rogue, specifically landmine Rogues are the least enjoyable class to go against and has NO real way to play around unless players expected to sit and wait in one tile of the map all game and force a rogue to have to reveal themselves by opening a door. Unsure what changes need to be made but once needs to be made. Adding back the invis outline of a rogue is a start but likely not enough. Maybe adding the outline back and increasing the time the outline lasts than previous to punish rogues who are not stealhing in time.
• The only classes Rogues cant landmine are two of the strongest classes in the game. Druid and Warlock. This is due to the dream state and phantomize perk and ability.
  Warlock Changes
  This class has been one of the strongest classes in the game since its release seems impossible for devs to balance this class..
  Continue..

[sage hound]

Warlock Changes
This class has been one of the strongest classes in the game since its release seems impossible for devs to balance this class..

• Limit magic healing in each available slot to +1 magic healing OR reduce scaling with magical healing on torture mastery ESPECIALLY on friendly targets. Torture amstery healing is absolutely broken. The sustain and infinite casting on warlocks is absolutely insane.
• Remove or HEAVILY reduce life drain scaling on friendly targets. IF that change is made, life drain scaling can remain higher on ENEMY targets to still make it a viable hp stealing option.
• No limit on spell casting other than hp (which hardly ever matters considering the absolutely unmatched sustain the class wields)
• There is no reason to play wizard in its current state when Warlock exists.
• Get rid of movement speed bonus from phantomize and/or lower the time you are in the phantomize state.
• Warlock has way to many things going for it. best kiting, best zoning, best sustain, best magic damage, best PvE, Best PvP and best get away with phantomize only rivaled by druid at the moment with Phantom + chicken leap combo and ratting away.
  Druid Changes
• Being able to spam different forms is a bit much especially for druids who are running away. Add a slight cooldown between switching to another form or being able to switch back to a form you just exited. (Ie, 2 second cooldown to go to bear if you just turned into a panther OR not being able to turn back into a panther for a longer time frame like 6 seconds or so but being able to turn into any other form without cooldown)
• Some sort of nerf to agility scaling on panther

[lapis sundial]

I'm almost sure it was a change done to nerf cleric, but yes fighters got hit by it even more imo as fast clerics are not even affected by this change

[clever anvil]

They tried to buff plate armor before, but the biggest beneficiaries turned out to be clerics.

fighter' talents and skill changes have never been successful; it's always been about sprint and Second Wind. The talents are particularly disappointing.

Not to mention the inherent poverty in the gameplay and design of the fighter character itself, more attack modes or better compatibility with other weapons might help, but fundamentally, the talents are too weak. You can intuitively compare the talents of the Barbarian and Fighter, which is pitiful to the extreme.

[glacial sphinx]

Yeah lot of good points. I think adding some passive spell regen based on knowledge would be great. Enough to generate an MM every 90 seconds or so, a fireball every 2-2.5 minutes lets say would already go a long way.

[clever anvil]

Unless they weaken the wizard's close-range abilities (such as with the broken wand), wizards may become one of the most versatile classes, much like the overpowering warlocks.

The issue isn't with the Wizard; it's because another class can kill anyone in three hits.

The community's controversy over landmine rogues has made some progress, but now they seem to be at a standstill.

The interesting gameplay mechanics like locking doors, feigning death, setting traps, and disguising should be the rogue's focus, but they still revert to landmine rogues... despite long-standing complaints.

[frigid meteor]

Added my first suggestons. Now its a question of time until i feel like free labour

[meager jasper]

I dont like that they're moving to an untested undisclosed matchmaking system. Tbh i think matchmaking is good the way it is.

[sage hound]

Theyre adding a new undisclosed matchmaking system?

[jolly leaf]

For Rogue and Warlock there is those 2 Suggestion to rework, Both Landmine and Healing mechanics of warlock https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic and https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[meager jasper]

Check the announcement

Not a fan of removing what makes rat interesting to use either. The moving between objects nobody else can should be considered a feature so long as it doesnt break the map. L change. Squeaking constantly on a stealth form is also real fun.

[languid rain]

#removehydrahealing

[grand garden]

Could it be a cool idea to add an inventory sorting feature to help organize may be weird but helpful to everyone like you can sort out heals and stuff

[rare sandal]

Probably the dumbest thing in the game next to +99mh builds...

[languid rain]

Well yea its just such bad gameplay to spam hydra in doors and heal of them with drain or with curses, im not a fan of magic healing stat for warlock.It needs to be overhauled same with bard tbh

[dull sinew]

WE NEED MILK IN THE GAME https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/482571/add-milk-to-the-game

[nimble harness]

I would love to see some diffrent gamemodes, maybe something like Deep Dives (a longer time limit or maybe none?) that are more/only PvE focused with a bigger party cause there are more mobs or more difficult. I'm thinking that it would be a slower and more dangerous challange all over. All of this could be made so it does not share stash and characters for the PvP mode.
Would love to see this game get some more love from all of those (including me) that are VERY bad at PvP and/or does not want to PvP.
And in my mind it should be harder to level up in that mode

[winged charm]

If you don't want to pvp though, why buy a pvp game?

[jolly leaf]

It's not a PvP game, it's PvEvP. A Dungeon crawler with PvP. I don't think a full PvE mode is a good idea tho. Better to use the dev time to improve the base game mode

[winged charm]

Fundamentally though, the game is pvpve which means pvp is part of the overall design alongside pve. The question still stands - why buy a PvPvE game if you don't like the pvp part of it, and then ask devs to take time, money and resources away from the initial game vision to make a game mode for those who don't want to play the game that they purchased as is?

[manic mirage]

@keen onyx @dawn grotto anyidea when you will fix the random Rollback for those affected?

[jolly leaf]

And same for the Arena imo it's a mistake and it'll would've been better to add thin lile this to the gamehttps://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

[jolly leaf]

We agree on that, a new PvE only game mode is a bad idea, same for the arena.

[winged charm]

That game suggestion looks fine - I would like to see more reasons to bring people together for pvp since they removed the circle. High risk high reward options are good

[languid rain]

He had a suggestion and you hit him with the "why buy the game" the equivalent of the forum guy when someone ask how to repair his phone "just dont break it"

[jolly leaf]

I made a suggestion to improve the Warlock healing mechanics

[languid rain]

Ok?

[jolly leaf]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

Sry was looking for the link xD

[languid rain]

oh on the website

[jolly leaf]

Upvote it if you like the idea pls

[winged charm]

Your analogy is not quite correct. It would be more akin to someone purchasing an apple phone, and then complaining that it doesn't have access to the googlestore (I don't know if it does or not to be fair :P) (but what I'm getting at is buying a game of type X and then asking for it to have a type Y game mode because you don't like X).

Buying a game and then asking for the core concept to be changed, or asking for a new mode to be added that removes the majority of the difficulty simply because you don't like it has become a common practice in gaming at the moment. We shouldn't be diverting resources away from the main development of the game.

[languid rain]

What, he merly suggested in the suggestion channel for different gamemodes even had a idea without influencing the main gamemode beside taking resources that can also be done by new hires or whatever ironmace feel like, "we have no say whatsoever" and the idea of talking it down because of the fear that they would even consider it and hurt the main gamemode or whatever is just weird

[winged charm]

I was merely offering a counter opinion - because this is a discussion channel.

[languid rain]

"If you don't want to pvp though, why buy a pvp game?" lol

[quasi stirrup]

im finding it impossible to get away from druids as a non tank. when im playing PDR as fighter cleric or barb i can tank enough hits and deal enough damage to at least scare them off. but as anything squishier even stacking move speed I can't get away from a panther. any ideas on balancing it out

[languid rain]

increase base dmg, decrease scaling make it scale from str/dex since its agi scaling they will be ms cap or close to it, but this patch people are already close or at ms cap with most gear even plate gear is close to 100% ms

[quasi stirrup]

ya thats what i was thinking. when you make MS your damage that doesn't feel good

[vocal lodge]

THEY ARE ADDING MORE MAGIC PEN? THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MAGIC DEFENSE

AGAIN DEVS DOING THINGS WRONG OMG DEVS ARE INSUFFERABLE

GIVE MAGIC POTION FOR FREE OR EASY TO GET ! THIS IS STUPID!

[quasi stirrup]

this is a suggestions chancel not for complaining and yelling

[torn marsh]

Aren't clerics so balanced guys?!?!?!

[lunar narwhal]

100% bro didnt you see the nerf?? blunt mastery down by 5% they are GUTTED

[torn marsh]

Right, so bad now - need a buff honestly

[quasi stirrup]

lol yall too much

[lunar narwhal]

dw they thought of that toO! will provides LESS MDR now so smite can hit you even harder EASIER!

[inland raft]

Btw still seeing additional magical slots on secondary non magical weapons please remove 🙂 I would also remove most magic related bonuses to secondary weapon considering almost no class would benefit from it (even rogue gets close to no benefit, etc.)

[torn marsh]

Hey Dev's I think Cleric needs a buff

Here's Why:

• Currently Cleric is just too slow, Maybe giving the class additional movement speed would help

• Also Cleric with the -5% is so weak, I killed someone with a torch- Shouldn't I be able to use throwing weapons too?

• Cleric heals = TRASH, We need a buff on the heals atleast by a little +1 magical healing on helmets would help

[vocal lodge]

noob cleric are good

[torn marsh]

Ahhh a scarecrow from the wizard of oz - I see!

Hey DEVs, Just because I know you might take my posts seriously - THIS IS SATIRE

CLERIC IS BROKEN = NERF NOW THANKS

[vocal lodge]

bro you just need movespeed. and defend bufff smite and magic shield. you good forget about PR if u like PR try to take everything with agility or movespeed 96% or more without weapon and u good. you buff and fight

[winter idol]

I think the best idea would be to not split up queues with another game mode but instead dive deeper into what they propably want the wyvern to be. First floor of any map should stay as it is, with a "normal" boss on it, as in gc, that you can take on as a team or a solo. That boss should also have an interesting boss room around it that functions as a gathering pool for all people that want pvp and spicy loot. Build with different kinds of cover and elevation to give a canvas for exiting pvp battles. Second floor of any map should be more of the old classic raid in mmos and mainly pve focused. Mobs there should be a lot harder and require your team to work together. No place for solos. The boss, like the wyvern, should be only fightable by multiple teams combining there forces so that it's actually a raid boss with much better loot at the end and a direct extract for everyone. For that to work you would need some kind of mechanic to comunicate in the first floor that you want to go down and are looking for mates. Something like the horn emote that's free and audible over the whole map or some kind of big drum next to each static down. Of course betrayal should be always an option in this kind of raids because we are playing dad not wow xD.

That way you would not split the playerbase and dad would get some much needed endgame content within its actual core game mode. What do you think about that idea?

[merry kestrel]

Revert Rondel and Stiletto to +10% AP each

but change Thrust to +5% AP per dagger equipped.

Same total 30% AP as current patch, but with incentive to duel wield daggers.

[pseudo gulch]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564915/bring-back-zone

[long leaf]

Magic pen % is less useful against people with low MR, you’re really complaining backwards.

[uncut anchor]

you should use the shop triumph level as a mark for each individual's player experience in the game and split the timmy's from experienced players so they don't quit the game cause they keep getting killed by veterans. example: i am triumph level 5 with 413/800 extractions towards level 6 and this is account bound not character bound so even if you make a new character you'd still have same triumph level

[winter idol]

you're kinda right but he has a point. currently its not really viable to build a lot of mdr. If spellcasting classes are balanced that is not that big of a problem, but when a spellcaster like cleric now or warlock before gets op through flawed balancing there is nothing that you can do against them really buildwise. to give them magic pen just further decentivises to build mdr witch kinda not makes sense to me.

[vocal lodge]

im not low mr thats the point! magical powers has become OP! i try to stack MR with barb but they 2 shoot me In HR now they add more pen! even with magic potion they have no counter

[vocal lodge]

they should at least make magic potion easy to get not highend. making wizard and warlock OP

[winter idol]

i totally agree that timmies and veterans should not be matched together. If we want fair fights (and i hope that is consense) we should really think about a skill based matchmaking instead of a gear based one. However i think a MMR build on your pvp succes in the last couple of games would be more pecise than the triumph level. Matchmaking only makes a difference in pvp and as such should not factor in any pve related elements (like extractions). Its true that a player that extracted a lot propably is better at fighting, but why go that way all around if what you really want is to messure and compare peoples combat abilities.

[pseudo gulch]

+1 but bring back zone

[craggy ember]

yo just wanted to ask is there a specific time for wipes? or do they announce that later

[uncut anchor]

the thing is i don't believe you can take it as far as mmr in this game cause there aren't enough players to do that. it works great for league or valorant or cs 2 or dota cause they have huge player base but if you do an mmr system in dark and darker once you climb very high the mmr ladder you're gonna be alone in those lobbies. we shouldn't go as far as to protect people who couldn't get better after 1000 hours but we should protect the new player experience

[jolly leaf]

They'll annonce it later but it should be in 1.5-2.5 month

[craggy ember]

ty

[winter idol]

i love that the zone is gone xD i hated it. it was a cheap battle royale style pvp enforcer. this game is not a battle royale. it is a dungeon crawler. But you're right if you're saying we need to enforce pvp more. A much better solution: One focal point in the center of each map. concentrate the high value loot there. in the rest of the dungeon you should only find gray and white treasure. Give rats the option to rat but then they have to live like a rat by the crumps. everyone that wants real loot has to gather in the center and fight over it. I loved Ice caverns before the wipe cos of that. You could rat around on the outskirts if you wanted, but if you wanted pvp, you went for the treasure room in the center and allways had good fights there.

[jolly leaf]

Or Point of interest on the map like that https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

[pseudo gulch]

Something like this won't work. Yes, it's not a battle royale, but that doesn't matter. This game is PVPVE. The AI ​​is a hindrance here, but the game mainly focuses on PVP. Now PVP makes no sense. There's nothing pushing us to meet players. The zone blocked run away. We either make a game for casual players or PVP. There is no 50/50. And know we have rats and exctract campers like in Escape From Tarkov. Especially Rogues on invisibility. Jesus.. It is nonsense.

[winter idol]

you dont have to spread it as much as in league. works the same as with gbmmr. Make one bracket for complete noobs (that one could even be extraction related), one for the average joe (up to around a 50/50 PVP Win/Lose ratio) and one for everything above.

[uncut anchor]

that's a good system

but another problem faces and it's that this game doesn't have the higher purpose of climbing the ladder and getting higher rank/mmr so you could lose on purpose when naked to go fight the average joe's

[glad turtle]

Suggestion: Make the Armorer's Quest "Unscathed Escape" allow warlocks to use spells. I went in as a warlock, took no damage from enemies or any traps or anything, only my own spells, and I left the dungeon with full HP. and I didnt get credit for it.

[jolly leaf]

The easy way is to take the first elevator of goblin cave. clear the goblin with your falchion

[winter idol]

hunt: showdown has this kind of system and it works great. sure you can derank if you let other players kill you on porpose. but once you actually start to fight again and kill like 7 in one run you instantly rank up again. so it takes like 7 games for farming for one run of easy pvp. not alot of people are doing this often xD

[glad turtle]

Thanks. Will be doing that. I understand how to get around the terrible design of the quest, just bringing it up so it can be changed. is there any channel in this discord to submit a feature request?

[jolly leaf]

Here but mostly https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

[winter idol]

i agree that we need more incentive to meet other players. but there should be something so that we WANT to meet them. an ingame goal of some sort. not a magical damaging circle that forces us and we just die if we dont.

[nocturne ocean]

rat periodic squeak is F***** bull****

[elfin vale]

rework hide this shits lame for both sides

[slate patio]

LAG?

[jolly leaf]

Vote for this suggestions. Really good idea to replace the Hide build https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

[glad turtle]

Here is my suggestion for allowing warlocks to cast spells but still complete the quest that says "take no damage". Thanks for any upvotes
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564928/let-warlocks-complete-these-quests-too

[fiery ore]

I would love to have ranked games with SSF mode, where you can only get into the game with up to 2 white weapons and no other gear except some utilities in character slots and then you just loot and fight with what you find in the dungeon This minmaxing gear nowadays is just so meh

[winter idol]

just go below 25 gs

oh you mean like hr in that way. yeah that will be tricky xD

[sand yarrow]

Thank you for giving us nothing on wizards again Ironmace, maybe it is time to stop overpowering the warlock with unlimited heals, unlimited spells, fastest boss kills and easy pvp and perhaps time to give something to wizard? Thank you

[jolly leaf]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic (Upvote if you like )

[coral pulsar]

As a new player I would really like to see the default character limit for new players bumped to 2 it really sucks when pick a class ( say warlock) decide I dont like it then have to lose 12 levels to start over from sratch and lose everything with a new character ( as there is no shared vault ) this would give players some flexiblity to find a player style they want without being punished I nearly left because of it as I didnt want to lose my progress.

Maybe as compinsation legendary players character count could also be bumped by 1 as well.

[jolly leaf]

I'll agree with you if they've didn't give Squire player that much other thing already. But the point of this restrictions is to make you buy the game. It's not meant to be free or be play with the free version for too long

[rich mantle]

My take on balance item wise, as it would make sense from number prespective and offer more play-style and build variations https://i.imgur.com/fuPHwuV.png

[coral pulsar]

I heavily disagree the free to play version needs to encourage players to stay to do this players need to be able to find and keep a playstyle that they like if they get locked into a player style they hate they wont stay.

having talked to a large number of free players they almost always universally agree your in the minotiry

[winged charm]

Of course they would - the free to play players obviously would want MORE free to play stuff, but it doesn't make sense from a business perspective. The more that F2P gets, the less incentive they have to buy. It's very common practice in F2P versions of video games to have restrictions.

[jolly leaf]

That's why I agree that they should have given them the oppurtunity to have a 2nd character slot (maybe for like 5k gold) but right now with the right to use gear in normal and marketplace if they do that people would just stick to free and never buy the game which is the point of the free version. It's a Demo not a real free to play

[jolly leaf]

Exactly

[coral pulsar]

umm free players dont get market .

[winged charm]

They can purchase from the market - that's the important part of it.

[jolly leaf]

Revert normal to common only and you can give them 2 character slot or thing like that (They can buy in the market)

[winter idol]

the easy and smart solution would be to give every player the option to play any character kind of as a "demo version". You have no stash and cant complete any quests. No progress at all. you can just play as the base lvl 1 char with the sqire options that come with that. if you extract everything you carry is just lost and you get reset. That way free players could try out new classes without right out deleting there progress while also not having the option to really play more than one class in a meaningfull way.

[ripe turtle]

I would love to see Barbarians have a skill to throw two handed weapons. Unbalanced for sure, I don't care.

[leaden tide]

Instead of straight up removing assassin druid by making it so rat is loud as hell and making panther not really viable (since panther is super weak in direct confrontations due to literally dying to 2 hits from any class in the game). How about you add a perk where rat doesn't squeak.

This way people who like to play assassin druid MUST sacrifice a perk slot while 90% of druids still wont take it. It enables different builds and gameplay variety which I think should be the goal anyways. Following meta and forcing people to play the same way is just boring in the long term.

[torn herald]

so true

[cursive temple]

Suggestion List
Fighter :
Allow the "Slayer" Perk to equip any type of headwear or a couple more variety options.

Wizard :
Allow "Clarity" Potions to be available via the squire
"Meditate" perk moved to G as a passive

[elfin vale]

** ADD PASSIVES FOR ARENA (ONLY ARENA) **

Fighter - Adrenaline Spike PASSIVE
Rogue - Double Jump PASSIVE
Wizard - Frost Armor PASSIVE
Druid - Shapeshift Mast PASSIVE
Bard - Superior Dex PASSIVE
Ranger - Spear Mastery OR Chase PASSIVE
Warlock - Malice PASSIVE
Barbarian - Treacherous Lungs AND Morale Boost PASSIVE
Cleric - Holy Aura PASSIVE

Please consider adding passives to the arena gamemode, it’ll make many more classes viable in pvp-only cases. Rogue might need even more help depending if the enemy team knows what they’re against, probably Backstab also a passive

[urban forge]

i think a lot of perks in general need an overhaul, or we simply need new perks truth be told, for every class.

if you want to prevent Meta comps, you have to make the other options within a class competitive.

also drop the knowledge requirement for Invis pots....15 is ridiculous, make it like 10..

[elfin vale]

you’re newer if u think that should be the case, the entire game was barbarians sitting in a corner waiting to 1 shot you literally every lobby

[urban forge]

played since the first beta, not new at all, and a barb main.

funnily enough im not talking about barbs getting access to the Invis pot. the biggest one for me is the rogue, the fact that i cant use an invis pot as a rogue sucks, and that i have to specifically build a useless stat on that class to access it is a joke.

[elfin vale]

i guess the burning question is why youd ever need an invis pot on rogue?

[plush coral]

Does Server works? it seems i cannot load into game...Match making Forever even thu 25 k is online

[urban forge]

if you want to hide for a longer time as opposed to 8 seconds, and burning a perk slot for a longer hide is a hell of a sacrifice.

[unreal snow]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564956/rat-form-change

[unreal snow]

this suggestion i think doesnt remove any playstyles from rat, but gives them a timer to make sure its not infinite (i think the newest rat form change has only removed playstyles from the game rather than balancing the form)

[gloomy inlet]

the druid i frame duration is very long in my opinion when accounting for its cool down and how it compares to phantomized because its in the perk section and not a skill it can provide more value than it being a skill on warlock besides warlock doing flame walk phantomize combo, as long as a druid has enough move speed they are effectively just a better phantomized that has to be injured to activate yes but because you would use an i frame in that situation to being with that angle of an argument doesn't really function in my opinion and 9/10 you already out of the danger 4 seconds into phantomized unless your being chased

[unreal snow]

i think the problem with it is that a lot of classes have to use a lot of resources to close a gap, and when they finally do to a druid they just phantomise for free with no counterplay

[gloomy inlet]

agreed, especially if they wall you off or turn into a rat and go under a door

[unreal snow]

with enough knowledge and buff duration you can pretty much guarantee with every spirit walk to be safe after

[gloomy inlet]

ong

[unreal snow]

and then infinite rat form imo is also broken, which is why ive made the suggestion posted above

[gloomy inlet]

yea

[sleek temple]

XD