q-and-a

[elfin violet]

do i get the game from chaf eventually or did i get scammed?

[slate python]

downloads are slow so yes wait

[glossy barn]

is the download speed really slow?

[terse ginkgo]

ive been at 12% for like 5 mins now loool

[glass finch]

thanks! how did you assigned to multiple class role?

[low jay]

i have a CDO Constructor error when I boot up. Any help?

[marsh hearth]

why is it saying ps4 in the tab when I buy it?

[honest stirrup]

The Blacksmith Launcher does not work for some reason it wont start installing the game its just stuck "updating"

[granite tiger]

Blacksmith is running but it not. I cant delete it, i cant open it and there is no clue what to do next pls help

[bleak hamlet]

Where do I get blacksmith launcher from?

[foggy shard]

Do I just buy it thru their official site and this Xsolla page?

[slate python]

Darkanddarker.com but be aware the downloads are VERY slow. gonna be hours

[dawn geode]

Hey, if it's the bug I think it is, I MAY have found a solution - try changing the install directory to being inside of blacksmith's install directory. Make sure blacksmith is enabled through firewall. I had same issue and currently am at 10/99

[woven violet]

Anybody else get a charge saying it’s from Roblox

[wooden phoenix]

Roblox charged me 50$ for dark and darker?

[flint harness]

MAn those payment options suck. Any possibility to pay with paypal or from my bankaccount?? PLS HELP!

[foggy shard]

oh gosh haha did you guys buy through their official site darkanddarker or the chaf games thing?

[keen raven]

That's why you use Amazon to pay for it, or another trusted third party LOL

[wooden phoenix]

Official site

[woven violet]

Installing on blacksmith now so I guess it’s ok

[sonic bone]

Yo can i Buy the game right now on darkanddarker . com or is there issue with the payment and I should use chaf?

Should I buy on website or chaff - I wanted to do on website so they get all of the money no 3rd man cut

[warped ivy]

do not use chaf. use the darkanddarker website

[gusty perch]

Ok

[foggy shard]

Those roblox talks got me skeptical but i want to play so bad haha, might try thru google pay or something

[bleak hamlet]

I don't see the button for blacksmith on dark and darker

[tidal haven]

my blacksmith wont open

[narrow iron]

RUN BLACKSMITH AS ADMINISTRATOR (IVE HEARD)

[sharp herald]

Most of those games can only get away with that cause games earlier in the franchise did well

[gusty perch]

From the looks of it, definitely don’t use Chaf especially if right now. Better to use BS but there are still many issues. Honestly, probably wait a bit too see such is better. I’m going to wait for either wait for things to start working or wait for Steam.

[bleak hamlet]

Where TF is the blacksmith button? I don't see it on website!!!

[sonic bone]

yeah ima take my cats outside and stretch for a bit - come back and buy off dark and darker website for me and a homie hopefully fixed soon

[slate python]

Launcher download on darkanddarker.com

[ornate mortar]

I put in a support ticket does the response get emailed or is there a place I have to look at on the site?

[pseudo grove]

@bleak hamletits the name of the launcher

[fathom walrus]

hey guys, is purchasing DnD in EUW not available ? I've downloaded the Chafgames app and tried buying it but it just says "dnd coming soon"

[bleak hamlet]

Bruh I'm on there website I don't see any launcher at all

[woven violet]

Should be a big green button on the top of home page

[pseudo grove]

right next to the buy now button

[gusty perch]

It might be a good 24 hours at least though.

[terse ginkgo]

IF SLOW DOWNLOAD - PAUSE AND UNPAUSE IT GOES FASTERRRRR

[ionic basin]

Dark and darker direct website is back up

[lilac drum]

Is there any other way to pay other than using my card?

[bleak hamlet]

No green button

[uncut gorge]

does buying a race skin transfer to every character you make?

[silk moss]

16/99 gang rise up!

[prisma plinth]

is it possible to change username after its already made

[small flicker]

this shit downloading slow asf

[tender mantle]

is the blacksmith launcher the same login info? if so its not working, any fixes?

[robust garden]

If you buy the game from darkanddarker will you be able to transfer your purchase to steam if it gets released on steam ever? or will u have to rebuy? im used to just playing games on steam

[royal wave]

finally downloading.... uggghhhhh so slow

[lavish ingot]

@sharp herald its still half that price: why is that too high? you havent explained

[rough idol]

any solutions to "Blacksmith already Installed"?

[rotund mica]

yea whats up with the DL speed?

[sharp herald]

It’s just a lot of money for a game especially for USD

[gusty perch]

When does Emoji contest start again?

[fathom walrus]

Guys where are you buying/downloading DnD?

[royal wave]

brb gonna go build a house from scratch with my bare hands -_- while i wait

[bleak hamlet]

Where is the print to download the game I went to dark and darker I see no green button on the home or dashboard and it said I made the purchase where is the dl?

[lavish ingot]

half price of most games? its really not

[tulip forge]

Hey you are not alone i sent an email to the xsolla team to tell them that we can't buy because of the 5 numbers zip code ! So you know maybe you can do the same

[agile ridge]

Patch notes?

[pastel totem]

I think one of the ways to buy it is made for the US primarily, try the one you're not trying now

[ionic vale]

Is there website still not working?

[dense cypress]

anyone else's blacksmith client not booting up?

[meager onyx]

it's working

[fathom walrus]

In my case I don't even have payment option. It just says" coming soon" lol

[ionic vale]

Not for me

[robust garden]

If you buy the game from darkanddarker will you be able to transfer your purchase to steam if it gets released on steam ever? or will u have to rebuy? im used to just playing games on steam

[thorny crystal]

i have already put 50$ onto chafgames are we still going to be able to buy thru there?

[tulip forge]

Unfortunatly i tried but it always ask the zip code but thank you for trying to help me their friend !

[nova laurel]

What to do if i dont have a credit card? Living in germany

[bold obsidian]

how tf do i refund stuff on chaf games?

[rotund mica]

you can use google pay on the dad site

[fathom walrus]

Are you even able to purchase the game in Chaff ? Cause I'm also from EU and it's not letting me, just says "coming soon" lol

[sterile lily]

Is the game refundable if i already played it?

[grand flame]

anyone know how to fix blacksmith already installed? i tried reinstalling the launcher to fix speeds, now it wont install

[rotund mica]

i think chaf is still down, but the dad site is working tho

[thorny crystal]

will it be up eventually, i just dont want my money to go to waste

[fathom walrus]

Any chance you could link me the website ? I'm not finding it at all

[nova laurel]

sadly it says "paypal is not useable for this" and i have to type in a credit card number :(

@fathom walrus i was using the dark and darker website

[gray hare]

Question: I live in NL (Netherlands) and I am wondering what the heck I'm supposed to fill in on the space where it asks for my Zip code??

[mossy forge]

why am I stuck on 10/99?

[odd schooner]

bruh CAN'T PURCHASE = Sorry, the payment cannot be completed now. Please try again later or contact Xsolla customer support.
Error code: 3032

[rotund mica]

https://darkanddarker.com/shop

[fathom walrus]

Damn I've been googling DnD in 1'0 different ways and it always sends me to Ironmace website lol

[deft ledge]

yo how do you refund stuff on chaffgames

[royal wave]

it's not stuck, it's just incredibly slow... it's everyone.... i was stuck at 10 for like 5 minutes, now i'm at 15/99... it's just there are SO FREAKIN MANY PEOPLE doing it all at once

[mossy forge]

rip

[wind shale]

how big is the game?

[tulip forge]

yeah i suppose you didn t find it because its pretty new at this point !

[flint harness]

MAn those payment options suck. Any possibility to pay with paypal or from my bankaccount?? PLS HELP!

[meager onyx]

10 GB

[lavish ingot]

everyone for the love of all that is holy stop trying to reinstall things because it is slow: there are thousands of us trying to install at the same time; it is essentially a ddos; its going to take time just be happy early access is here at all

[drowsy pecan]

is it possible to upgrade to the $50 pack after buying the $35?

[rotund mica]

there is no paypal option

[obsidian harness]

Is the warlock class in game?

[bold obsidian]

if i wanted to refund somthing on chaf how would i do that? anyone know?

[tulip forge]

hello i have the same i think the best solution is to send a mail to the customer service like i did and ask to add european payment method because their is a lot of european like us who can't play

[gray hare]

I'm having the same problem. man. It really sucks trying to pay from NL as well.

[fathom walrus]

Anyone from EU that has purchased the game in the DnD website has it worked even with the US billing zip code ? haha

[sharp herald]

What games are you buying :/

[latent pulsar]

attention all gamers if you get the blacksmith alraady installed error use revo uninstaller, find blacksmith, click uninstall, delete all registry and other files

[lavish ingot]

broh thats not the issue you still cant explain how half price of most new games is too much

[keen raven]

Because 50,000 people are downloading the game at once. It's extremely slow.

[wet vapor]

i have purchased the game on the DnD website, but when i go to login to the blacksmith launcher it says i dont have an account associated with the email?

[sharp herald]

Most of the ones I play and enjoy are like 12-25 dollars idk what costs 80 dollars other then overpriced stuff like the new COD stuff or franchise games

[small cipher]

If I buy the founders edition on this whateveritis website that its being sold on right now, will I keep my founders benefits when/if the game releases on Steam? Will I be able to log into the same account?

[sharp sluice]

Anyone get it working on Linux?

[pastel totem]

through the dark and darker website and through chaf?

[stoic forum]

why can i not reinstall the launcher, it keeps saying that blacksmith is still installed

[wise ledge]

its so slow updating how do i speed it up

[lavish ingot]

thats wonderful, i havent bought a cod game since 2011; most games are 60-70 new

[tulip forge]

yep i think so we must be patient ahah

[pastel totem]

rip, I'm US but just gonna wait to see what comes of this and if it ends up back on steam

[nova laurel]

yup same, its just i dont have a credit card, so were forced to wait till there are more options right?

[trail sigil]

so ive bought the game but how do i download it. there is no install button

[tidal haven]

if anyone's having trouble with the launcher not opening:
put it on your list of apps allowed through firewall

[deft ledge]

lets say you where dumb enough to buy chaf cash instead of the game. would you be able to buy the game with chaf cash and if not how would you refund it?

[tulip forge]

oh i don't think it will ahah but if you want to wait why not

[lucid wolf]

Can anyone confirm whether Blacksmith uses NTLM authentication? I'm troubleshooting the "Server error. please try again" warning for linux users.

[lofty veldt]

re-open launcher and it should say install if youve received confirmation email

[sick shore]

ALREADY INSTALLED PROBLEM FIX: You need someone to give you the archive named Uninstalll blacksmith on Blacksmith Folder, then it will let u install it again

[bold obsidian]

^

[errant venture]

for slow download stop clicking "update" when you see a percentage it is downloading so press nothing

[thorny crystal]

i have already put 50$ onto chafgames are we still going to be able to buy thru there?

[safe glacier]

for slow download stop clicking "update" when you see a percentage it is downloading so press nothing

[robust river]

Trying one last time to get an answer about SHADOW PC users, who can't start the launcher and thus download/play the game

For first playtest on Steam (06/02), devs knew about the Shadow PC (detected as VM) issue on launch day #known-bugs message

And fixed it the next day (07/02) #📢announcements message

Hope it'll be the same this time, and if not that players using Shadow will get a refund if no changes are made

[bold obsidian]

same bro

[atomic heron]

trying to purchase the game on the official website but i live in canada and payment keeps asking for zip code (we use postal code which uses letters and numbers) anyways to change this?

[trail sigil]

ty

[thorny crystal]

im just here waiting, lowkey worried

[safe glacier]

everyone stop downloading so mine will go faster!

[royal wave]

GUYS GUYS GUYS !!!!! I'M FINALLY AT 2%!!!! WOOOO PROGRESS

[tropic cypress]

Anyone else having this issue??? #the-tavern message

[oblique flicker]

For canadian buyers: use the numbers of your postal code (so three digits) followed by two zeros. E.g. postal code is A1B-2C3, put in 12300

[bold obsidian]

they said you can refund it but i got no clue how

[plucky reef]

Will there be other payment options?
because i dont own a credit card. and i want to do it via the offical website ofc

[lofty veldt]

14% the edge is real

[thin vale]

if i buy the $30 one and want the $50 in a couple days will it let em get it for 15 for dom ihave to pay teh whole 50

[safe glacier]

you dont have a debit card?

[tropic cypress]

I used the Uninstaller for the launcher, it removed 50% of my desktop files and they are nowhere to be found anywhere????? I had sensitive information in there nowhere to be found in recycle bin or file explorer???

[vast ether]

how do i get around error 3032???

[atomic heron]

tysm!

[lofty veldt]

dont cashapp and venmo have virtual cards?

[small flicker]

ye

[plucky reef]

Not one they accept

[jovial yew]

Q: is disabling all virtual machines intended or will there be allowances like shadow pc the same way it's been in the past?

[oblique flicker]

Was it an official uninstaller? If not, I hope you have backups.

[tropic cypress]

Absolutely it was, directly from their website @oblique flicker

[odd schooner]

"Sorry, the payment cannot be completed now. Please try again later or contact Xsolla customer support.
Error code: 3032" bruh

[sick shore]

ALREADY INSTALLED PROBLEM FIX: You need someone to give you the archive named Uninstalll blacksmith on Blacksmith Folder, then it will let u install it again

[plucky reef]

That is because of the sheer amount of poeple trying to buy the game and they cant keep up

[stoic forum]

i uninstalled the launcher and now when i try to install it again it claims that the launcher is already installed

[tropic cypress]

@sick shore What? I have it installed correctly now and I'm downloading the game. 3%. I just want my lost files back

[sick shore]

oh wrong guy, ignore it

[safe glacier]

you can buy it on the other website, theres just a lot of issues right now because so many people are trying to buy and play.

[elder grove]

@timber mist @burnt badger If I purchase the standard edition can I later upgrade to the founder's or no?

[hollow jay]

anyone else game crash on launch from Blacksmith launcher, windows

[indigo thicket]

Is it on mac? Asking for a friend

[halcyon musk]

so i was downloading launcher froze so i restarted pc since it closed anyway now instead of install it says updating but it doesnt gain any progress

[sick shore]

ALREADY INSTALLED PROBLEM FIX: You need someone to give you the archive named Uninstalll blacksmith on Blacksmith Folder, then it will let u install it again, dm me if u want it

[odd schooner]

so PURCHASING the game is technically out of service , announcement says its working :/

[wispy mauve]

Is Dark and Darker always available now or is it only for a couple days like the last few times?

[upper panther]

what are "captured mana flakes" for

[south jetty]

I bought the game and got charged but it says I need to purchase still

[mild cove]

Where do you download the launcher after purchase? Doesn't seem to be anywhere

[plucky reef]

Do u know if u buy it of the other website automatcly link to my blacksmith launcher?

[slender condor]

it will take a bit to register on the launcher. Took me about 15 min

[deft ledge]

Yo asking for a friend, is there any way that you can refund chafcash.

[tawdry crag]

is there any way to upgrade from the standard version to the founders edition?

[south jetty]

It has been a couple hours now unfortunately

[safe glacier]

pretty sure you have to use their launcher. not a huge issue though. either that or ask devs and wait?

[paper sigil]

why is the game download taking so long

[narrow iron]

got charged from chaf, no receipt or game. anyone have a solution?

[plucky reef]

F it ame go sleep

[rancid trout]

can anyone else not purchase the game on the website getting a payment cant be completed

[silver spruce]

So on the website, there's a spot to purchase redstone shards (or something like that) with IRL currency like USD. You can then in turn purchase 'provisions' with this in-game currency.

What constitutes a provision?

[sudden sparrow]

any solution for still getting error code 3032 on the DaD.com xsolla payment screen?

[dark niche]

someone please explain why I cant enter my Zip code

[rancid trout]

^^^

[ripe current]

How do I buy the game if I'm not from the US? keeps asking me for US zipcode

[tepid pawn]

Anyone else getting stuck on 10/99 files?

[grand flame]

ty this worked +rep

[silver spruce]

So on the website, there's a spot to purchase redstone shards (or something like that) with IRL currency like USD. You can then in turn purchase 'provisions' with this in-game currency.

What constitutes a provision?

[slender condor]

I guess I would try resetting the launcher. You could also check that it went thru on the darkanddarker.com website - log in and go to account both in the top right. For me, even when the launcher wasn't recognizing my purchase, I could see the game there.

[hollow willow]

I have a friend stuck on 10/99 right now, seems like an issue many are having right now. I assume maybe it's related to everyone bogging up the download servers since purchases were restored.

[dark niche]

How do i get to the download

[west shore]

whoever said you should uninstall, that made it a lot worse, thanks a lot

[thorny crystal]

i just bought the game twice i need to play this shit

[sudden sparrow]

#the-tavern message also apparently new email/account and then buy on LTE/5G works. my friend is trying will report back

[silver spruce]

So on the website, there's a spot to purchase redstone shards (or something like that) with IRL currency like USD. You can then in turn purchase 'provisions' with this in-game currency.

What constitutes a provision?

[lavish ingot]

why would uninstalling make things better or faster?

[vast ether]

fr

[prisma plinth]

is it possible to change username after its already made

[still helm]

what can i do if i dont want to pay 35 dollars

[west shore]

why does anything make sense?

[bold obsidian]

anyone know anything on refunding on chaf games

[silver spruce]

@muted onyx Is the game pay to win now?

[lavish ingot]

lots of things make sense for good reason; uninstalling to help speedds when the problem is 50000 people querying the same few servers for downloads makes no sense

[deft grove]

so far its skins with stat bonuses and classes...

[lavish ingot]

some stat bonuses and some stat hindrances

[silver spruce]

Ofc, so in a few months they gonna go full p2w

[coral glade]

im not sure if its dowloading or not?

[leaden pollen]

uninstalled the launcher cause it was broke but when i try to reinstall it tells me i still have it?? yet i have delted all the files i can find for black smith

[vital bridge]

Anyone know for sure if there is an option to upgrade from a Standard license to a Founder's at a later time?

[rancid dove]

can i buy the game without a credit card? I have paypal, bank card

[hollow willow]

I am in the game client right now, and from what I can tell, it is just allowing you to buy cosmetic skins for your campfire or cosmetic action so instead of just sitting down to recover your energy, it will show your character kneeling down eating a kebab. The campfire can be a kettle or a rabbit roasting over a fire. Can't post pictures here but they are all just cosmetic.

[west shore]

If I'm stuck at 0% how do I know it's going?

[silver spruce]

If its just cosmetics then thats okay. As long as they dont fuck it up and start doing p2w stuff, any p2w stuff will make them make p2w stuff in the future. We've seen it in countless of games, thanks for responding

[modest copper]

anyone else having an issue where blacksmith is downloaded but wont open

[deft grove]

This is not true at all. Read the skins descriptions and you will see they change the stats. 2 of the classes are also locked behind the currency.

[terse glacier]

Anyone know how to buy if I don't have a zipcode? Im Canadian so I cant input letters for postal code?

[silver spruce]

Can u send a screenshot? Just gyazo it or imgur, cuz I wanna know if its p2w trash before I buy it, aint no way I am letting them p2w me

[south jetty]

It is saying I have to buy it still on the website

[sudden sparrow]

THIS WORKS. Error 3032 just make a new account on DaD.com then turn off Wifi and buy the game through LTE/5G. Hope this helps someone.

[radiant halo]

Is it ethical to buy a new computer to play this game for a month then return it?

[signal fulcrum]

EU GUIDE: Google Pay with Paypal and ANDROID HANDY:
PLEASE SHARE IT

1. Open Google Wallet App
2. • Add to Wallet
3. Add PAYPAL, even though you already have added paypal so you get a virtual credit card with Google Wallet (You will be asked for your address again or if you have already added paypal you will set a pin only
4. PayPal is not grayed out anymore
5. Start the payment process on the dark and darker page and chose Google pay (USE THE CROME BROWSER) darkanddarker.com

[lavish ingot]

its not p2w its the same skin deals as the betas; some bonuses some minuses (the skeleton skins had higher magic res but lower physical res for example)

[hollow willow]

I was not talking about the character skins. The character skins of the elves, orcs, skeletons giving very lightly modified stats aren't anything new and were there in previous play tests. The stat modifications are not overpowered and definitely not pay to win. Example: Skeleton makes you LOSE 10 armor, but gain 10 magic resist. It's a double edged sword for skeletons. The orcs or elves modify the strength stat by 1, and you lose movement speed by 1. That hardly makes a difference, and I defintely don't think trading off movement speed is worth it for 1 strength, could be to a min-maxer though. I don't think that will decide a fight though, but if you do, then you're entitled to your own opinion but I do not share that opinion.

[iron kelp]

Where should i put the location in vpn to download faster

[silver spruce]

You can purchase classes with it, classes are locked behind the paywall. Wdym not p2w. We need to call this out already otherwise this game is gonna be infested with p2w trash

[tacit prawn]

I THINK I FIGURED OUT HOW TO UNSTICK IT!!!! go to setting turn auto updates off,then scan and repair

[radiant halo]

What do you mean locked behind a pay wall

[haughty delta]

Has the court stuff resolved? or are they going to get in more trouble by going forward with EA?

[deft grove]

your statement that things in the shop are purley cosmetic is false. I also have no problem with the skins stats as they are now, but its wrong to say its cosmetic only.

[lavish ingot]

are you entirely certain the currency cant be earned in game? because you could earn it in betas to buy other skins. stop speaking with certainty when you dont have any

[silver spruce]

@radiant halo @lavish ingot Ofc you can earn it but you can pay for it. Which is p2w https://gyazo.com/b965085a613680c819ff78718f2f207a look

[waxen sapphire]

any way to make the download go faster?

[deft grove]

There is a free version of the currency you can earn each "season" battlepass style but you also can buy them for real money. from what it seems you will be able to unlock 1 class per season

[hollow willow]

The classes are not locked behind a pay-wall. There are both Bluestone Shards and Redstone Shards. You can unlock classes with Bluestone Shards as much as you can with Redstone Shards. The difference? Bluestone Shards can be earned in-game and Redstone Shards are the ones you buy with real life money if you just want to get things over with faster and skip the farming process.

[lavish ingot]

you can use blue currency or red, and blue is earnable in game you dingus

[radiant halo]

Oh damn. Which classes are not locked?

[tepid pawn]

what game do you play that every single class is unlocked from the start. You earn those. of course you can pay but saying its pay to win like bard is some op class is delusional lmao

[silver spruce]

Exactly thats literally p2w, have you ever played p2w games? You can always earn for the stuff by playing the game but then you can also purchase it for real money, this is just the start. Soon they will add more p2w stuff

[brisk ice]

Anyone else's download taking a long time? I'm at 16/99 2%.

[west shore]

painfully slow

[modest copper]

lmao better than me im 1/90 0%

[deft grove]

The company created an inconvenience in order to sell the solution. that is a scummy thing to do to a fanbase especially one as loyal as theirs.

[lavish ingot]

"pLaYiNg ThE gAmE tO uNlOcK tHiNgs?! ThAtS pAy To WiN" - this guy

[deft grove]

lets not ignore the fact that they put BOTH of the support classes behind the currency

[signal fulcrum]

EU GUIDE: Google Pay with Paypal and ANDROID HANDY:
PLEASE SHARE IT

1. Open Google Wallet App
2. • Add to Wallet
3. Add PAYPAL, even though you already have added paypal so you get a virtual credit card with Google Wallet (You will be asked for your address again or if you have already added paypal you will set a pin only
4. PayPal is not grayed out anymore
5. Start the payment process on the dark and darker page and chose Google pay (USE THE CROME BROWSER) darkanddarker.com

FOR DOWNLOAD SPEED USE A GERMAN VPN (I downloaded the game in 5 minutes)

[hollow willow]

I don't see an issue with what Dark and Darker is doing, but if you hold that opinion then that is fine and you can also go play some other game that somehow satisfies your needs. And to be perfectly honest, I don't think your opinion is good, no offense.

[blazing bramble]

How do I buy the buffs? Will I get more in the future so I can spend more money 'cause that would be dope I'm rich af but not mucb time to play so that'll help out a lot : D

[silver spruce]

You @lavish ingot and @hollow willow is the reason why diablo immortal exists, why other pay 2 win games exists. You can grind for the stuff or you can pay in real life money to skip the grind which makes it PAY 2 WIN. Like How hard is it to get it? Yes you can grind in gta5 50h to get a yacht, or you can pay 50$ to buy it. Like how delusional can you be

[blazing bramble]

I work 16 hours a day except weekends, not fair for me u all have no Jobs or don't make money and I'd rather pay to make up for the less amount of time I have to play the game.

[humble zealot]

where do i get the game

[bold obsidian]

that doesnt make it pay to win LMAO. pay2won means paying is the only way to get stat boosts

[modest copper]

i dont see how this aspect necessarily makes it pay2win i dont see people saying league or apex or games like that are p2w and use the same format of you can buy currency to insta unlock char or in this case classes or you can grind and unlock them

[lavish ingot]

lmao then go play something else. we'll be here having fun and holding the line, ya nexon plant

[tacit prawn]

q and a not b and w

[regal surge]

How long to update for you guys?

[fast robin]

Did they balanced some classs since last playtest ? Like nerfed rogue ?

[silver spruce]

Big brain gamer, more like small brain gamer. You legit dont know what the concept of pay 2 win is so dont even respond to my message. I swear this is the reason why so many games are actual garbage these days because of people like you letting the companies take a ppoo in your face and you just eating it so you can guzzle for more

[modest copper]

stuck at 1/90

[iron kelp]

How to use vpn to make download faster??

[lavish ingot]

what?

[bold obsidian]

you gonna tell me waht p2w is then???

[tacit prawn]

4 score and 3 years ago i started,now 13%

[regal surge]

did anyone get in yet?

[hollow willow]

You are beginning to become offensive, and I'm going to now screenshot and report to the moderators. I bid you good luck.

[foggy shard]

What is the difference between Blacksmith normal app and then blacksmith bootstrap cuz that opens but not normal blacksmith app

[blazing bramble]

Wait so if it's like Apex and League then I don't get my stat buffs? I bought every skin on Apex they don't buff my gameplay at all! I can't spend 16 hours everyday working and not be allowed to boost my stats while 90% of people have no Jobs

[silver spruce]

I dont care, you do what you gotta do 🐀 @bold obsidian P2W is used in gaming with the meaning "Pay to Win," to refer to games that allow players to purchase items or abilities (e.g., more powerful weapons, additional health points) that give them an advantage in the game, either over other players or NPCs (Non-Player Characters).

[young wagon]

The platform to buy the game is SHIT ! it dont even reconize the zip code of the bank in my country ! wtf now i wait 2 month and today cant play

[undone trout]

Google is telling me not to download the blacksmith launcher should i do it?

[lavish ingot]

you can tell nexon youve done your job, be on your way now plz

[weak crow]

how tf am i supposed to buy the game as a dutchy when all the payment options only allow a 5 digid american zipcode and i have a 4 digid zipcode in the netherlands,,, how tf am i supposed to buy the game!?!?!?!?!

[bold obsidian]

yea ik but if theres away to get said iteams through playing the game rather then spending money then there is know p2w

[native gull]

have they made any nerfs or buffs if so where can i see them

[dark niche]

I'm stuck with blacksmith loading on my screen, is this normal?

[modest copper]

i was just talking about the class unlock aspect, from my understanding of what someone posted earlier the skins are a different topic but they were posting the stat changes being like +1 strength but -1 speed which i guess if you super min max then i could see that as p2w but im not sure if thats enough to warrant that, but yeah if stats become drastic to the point where certain skins are superior optimal then yeah i see that as p2w forsure but we were talking about unlocking classes

[young wagon]

ihave the same trouble bro / im in french polynesia ... i put the diggit in like always and i just cant ... it tell me error 1208 .. the fuck is THIS SHIT PLATFORM

[silver spruce]

Nexon Ive done my job, homie I am trying to make it so they dont do a nexon and makes this game into p2w considering I like the game, but people like you will make this game flop. @bold obsidian Idk if you ever played destiny 2, first they started with small p2w stuff and then continued making it more and more

[weak crow]

iknow right...... seems like the platform only took american buyers in mind

[lavish ingot]

ah yes, i hear toxicity in the community has nothing to do with games flopping

[bold obsidian]

yea because you can only get d2 dlc through money thats why its pay to win. bozo

[hollow willow]

Alright perfect so let's see you make another Dark and Darker without any pay to win. Gonna do it or what? 😮

[blazing bramble]

Oh that doesn't sound like much of a difference so I'm better off not buying I guess?

[young wagon]

@muted onyx do something for us plz .. the platform wont let us PAY !!!!!! 😦 the platform is bugged for my country !

[native gull]

have they made any nerfs or buffs if so where can i see them

[silver spruce]

Have you never heard of how you boil a frog? The boiling frog is an apologue describing a frog being slowly boiled alive. The premise is that if a frog is put suddenly into boiling water, it will jump out, but if the frog is put in tepid water which is then brought to a boil slowly, Thats what they are doing with small p2w stuff

[modest copper]

i mean im still downloading so idk i just read what someone was posting about earlier and so from my understanding it doesnt seem to be super advantagous if anything it sounds kinda bad but maybe there will be like a skin that gives -2 def but +2 speed and itll be p2w idk

[lavish ingot]

so instead you drown the frog with toxicity? someone get this man a big brain of the year award

[signal fulcrum]

EU GUIDE: Google Pay with Paypal and ANDROID HANDY:
PLEASE SHARE IT

1. Open Google Wallet App
2. • Add to Wallet
3. Add PAYPAL, even though you already have added paypal so you get a virtual credit card with Google Wallet (You will be asked for your address again or if you have already added paypal you will set a pin only (There is 2 options if you have already added paypal to google in the past, try both! Bottom one worked for me)
4. Make sure after this process you have a "credit card image" in your wallte with your email at the bottom and paypal in the top right corner.
5. PayPal is not grayed out anymore
6. Start the payment process on the dark and darker page and chose Google pay (USE THE CROME BROWSER) darkanddarker.com

FOR DOWNLOAD SPEED USE A GERMAN VPN (I downloaded the game in 5 minutes)

[haughty vault]

Hi! i payed for game, money was taken but i didn't receive game. Is there any solution?

[silver spruce]

No, you tell the devs that this is bs after we waited so long for the game to come out. I dont mind paying 35$ for the early access but then that they have extra micro transactions later is shameless

[blazing bramble]

Hi! i payed for game, money was taken but i didn't receive game. Is there any solution?

[runic creek]

is there a reason why my shit is downloading so hecking slow!

[lavish ingot]

broh youve been nothing but toxic to other people in this chat and are claiming to not be toxic, thems some fine mental gymnastics

[mystic fern]

blacksmith launcher is stuck launching

[silver spruce]

Man you guys keep coping. when this game becomes a pay 2 win infested game in a year. Remember that people tried to change it, but small brain people like @lavish ingot is why we are here, it is what it is. Sadly

[burnt badger]

Why you feed trolls?

[runic creek]

suck one

[lavish ingot]

stuck in download limbo just tryna have some fun i guess

[agile dragon]

hes not wrong even if u dont like it, thats fk'd

[ornate sand]

yeah ur sad asf

[runic creek]

who tf you talking to brokie?

[silver spruce]

It really sucks, cuz this game is dope. But people are not calling them out for it now, will make them continue doing it in the future.

[bold obsidian]

stop typing we dont care

[lavish ingot]

how hard was it to say that without being toxic?

[humble zealot]

How long is this playtest

[analog wing]

Can we get a PayPal payment method on the official dark and darker website? I actually can't believe that it isn't there to begin with

[toxic warren]

yo i didnt play in the last play test but i played in all the ones before that and ii have no clue how to download or launch the game, can anyone help me out?

[low jay]

CDO constructor error?

[silver spruce]

???? Because you guys are acting as if its not an issue, why tf arent people bombing the devs that this is not okay. They said they were not gonna add any p2w features and they already adding stuff from the getgo. Thats a BIG red flag

[mystic fern]

launcher won't open, just the blacksmith logo on my desktop forever

[lavish ingot]

you were toxic from the getgo bud, and youve gone right back to the toxic frog killing well

[bold obsidian]

bro just walk away we dont care lmaoo

[worn salmon]

my launcher is stuck opening up after downloading and apparently closing/crashing. any tips?

[green needle]

anyone have the uninstaller folder, i need to fix the already installed bug

[polar spire]

close it with task manager

[covert stream]

can you buy the game for me because i cant possibly in any shape way or form

[silver spruce]

Mate, because Ive been waiting for this game for what over a year cuz I played on the first play test, ofc I am frustrated over the fact that they lied about not having micro transactions

[hasty vine]

anyone know how to not get the tax payment??

[weak crow]

How tf am i supposed to pay for the game when it only accepts american info like zipcode etc? i legit have a dutch Klarna account yet im not allowed to acces my dutch account since i need to fill in american info.....

[bold obsidian]

its the first god damn day bro give them some slack you bafoon

[tepid pawn]

its pay to progress. If you can unlock it within the game it is not pay to win. You keep mentioning classes. Unlock bard and let me know how "pay to win" that class is.

[humble zealot]

bruh

[terse ginkgo]

50% DOWNLOADED IN LIKE 5 MINS BY USING VPN CONNECTED TO NETHERLANDS

[lavish ingot]

so you fix it by being toxic to the community? broh ready to give symone biles a run for her money with these mental gymnastics

[silver spruce]

Thats how it starts, brother look at Destiny 2, look at diablo immortal, man I can name millions of games thats what they start at first

[covert stream]

Can you add ideal, so people can actually buy the game

[daring surge]

this is for questions not arguing leave if you do not have questions that someone can help with

[rocky juniper]

was voip removed? trying to find out if I'm going insane or not

[silver spruce]

Nah cuz everyone kept d riding and saying "its not p2w man" . If they actually just had SKINS behind that currency, whatever I dont mind thats okay. The calsses being behind that currency is a big red flag, because its an early access game. Thats 35$ aswell xDD

[tepid pawn]

I can name a million games that have pay to progess that didnt go pay to win. All ive seen is you complain. if youre that scared then just fuck off and play something else. Youre not changing anyones mind about the fact that it isnt pay to win

[umbral gale]

Jiangmin
Trojan.KillFiles.mf

It doesn't really inspire trust...

[lavish ingot]

i have questions about why hes being toxic, its pertanent

[signal fulcrum]

EU GUIDE: Google Pay with Paypal and ANDROID HANDY:
PLEASE SHARE IT

1. Open Google Wallet App
2. • Add to Wallet
3. Add PAYPAL, even though you already have added paypal so you get a virtual credit card with Google Wallet (You will be asked for your address again or if you have already added paypal you will set a pin only (There is 2 options if you have already added paypal to google in the past, try both! Bottom one worked for me)
4. Make sure after this process you have a "credit card image" in your wallte with your email at the bottom and paypal in the top right corner.
5. PayPal is not grayed out anymore
6. Start the payment process on the dark and darker page and chose Google pay (USE THE CROME BROWSER) darkanddarker.com

FOR DOWNLOAD SPEED USE A GERMAN VPN (I downloaded the game in 5 minutes) I used Cyber Ghost but Proton VPN also works (free)

[covert stream]

@signal fulcrum useless because i dont own a phone

[burnt fern]

does this also work for canada/other non zip code countries?

[tepid pawn]

yeah temporarly, they have somethings they need to go over before reintroducing it

[split comet]

can you create more discrod channels?

[silver spruce]

Pay 2 progress is literally pay 2 win, but sure keep coping xDDD. There is one thing they couldve done, idk maybe just not put the classes behind any pay walls at all lol, during the playtest u could play whatever thats how its supposed to be. What am I gonna play World of warcraft, you wanna play warrior? Sorry sir, you have to play 100 hours or purchase the currency so you can play it, get out of here

[daring surge]

any fix for download stuck at 0%? it is not my antivirus.

[mystic fern]

Launcher is stuck on bootup. Reinstalling and restarting PC does nothing

[hollow willow]

@frank sandal Please help get rid of this toxic troll @silver spruce so that this section isn't bombarded with his messages.

[covert stream]

when are you making viable payment options that dont require owning a phone?

[low jay]

CDO CONSTRUCTOR

[silver spruce]

"Toxic troll" Yes, silence criticism of the game. True I am obviously trolling writing facts of the game going pay 2 win. True

[bold obsidian]

at least your are aware

[tribal pivot]

do i have to do something with my firewall to get passe dthe game being launched but not seeing the exe

[tepid pawn]

you have no concept of how long it takes to unlock a class so thats just a baseless example. I literally do not care either way, even if it was p2w, so im done arguing. At this point accept you dont want the game and go waste other peoples time.

[halcyon gate]

what is pay 2 win

[blazing bramble]

Is ranger class I have pay if I play Rangers? I love Rangers and if it done then not fun but I can buy it?

[alpine bison]

blacksmith dont like me

[haughty vault]

When i will receive my game? i payed money wtf. Noone answering for my ticket

[burnt badger]

How is EU supposed to buy this.. nothing is working for me on darkanddarker.com

[hollow willow]

Scroll up for an EU buy guide ^^^

[limber ferry]

will this game run on a steam deck with the new launcher?

[burnt badger]

Thanks. The one for android / google? I have apple

[halcyon gate]

is the game compatible with nintendo switch? it is all i have other than my grandmothers laptop

[bold obsidian]

when is dark and darker mobile???? been waiting to dam long to not be able to play on my iphone 7

[burnt badger]

[alpine bison]

blacksmith thing don't like me

[sharp jungle]

finally got to 10 percent downloaded!!! should be ready by wednesday!

[halcyon gate]

truly unfortunate! i wish you the best of luck with your misfortunes. ill have to file a complaint

[bold obsidian]

WHAT TF IS DARK AND DARKER

[desert remnant]

has anyone worked out what to do for only having a 4 number zip code?

[ornate mortar]

does anyone know why the blacksmith launcher refuses to use your computers resources it's using 6% of my CPU and downloading only at 2-5 MBPS

[burnt badger]

No idea but try to add a zero at the beginning?

[alpine ridge]

Will there be a linux linux compatibility?

[ionic stratus]

Steam release when ?

[covert stream]

will there ever be ideal compatibility.

[halcyon gate]

i enjoy world of worldcraft

[late elk]

Any canadian brothers able to purchase the game?

[bold obsidian]

currently pissing

[weak crow]

how can they make it so hard to buy this game if your not american...

[halcyon gate]

im from botswania

[prime sluice]

Using a vpn fixed all my problems (not cap)

[wet dragon]

i cant tell if this vpn stuff is cap or not see that makes it seem more cap though

[south jetty]

yessir

[arctic galleon]

yea just put the zipcode as 12345

[bold obsidian]

we are not all rich white women who can buy vpns

[prime sluice]

It's free lmao

[uneven pendant]

mine downloaded in 5 min and is stuck at 100% inspecting. anyone else?

[south jetty]

jesus bro

[low jay]

CDO constructor error?? anyone?

[late elk]

thanks bois

[pliant skiff]

How long will the founders edition be available for, does anyone know?

[burnt badger]

is there a way to refund the game if i bought it from the dark and darker webiste? ( the game crashes a lot for me and fps is terrible)

[weak crow]

starting to think my only way of buying the game is getting a prepaid creditcard online??

[bold obsidian]

yea thats what i had to do not to hard

[halcyon gate]

No weapon that is fashioned against you shall prosper, and you shall confute every tongue that rises against you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and their vindication from me, says the Lord" (Isaiah 54:17 NRSV)

[empty tulip]

does anyone know how i can get teh game to install faster

[burnt badger]

i bought it normally like steam games with credit card

[low jay]

CDO Constrictor error?? Please help!

[weak crow]

us europeans barely ever own a creditcard xD

[burnt badger]

Can we have paypal payment method?

[halcyon gate]

anyone know how to get a rom for star wars games

[gentle trellis]

WE FINALLY GOT IN!!! CHECK OUT HOW AND WATCH GAMEPLAY AT ttv/ApolloReign

[bold obsidian]

NO😄

[dusk shuttle]

ANYBODY ELSE GETTING BLACKSMITH ALREADY INSTALLED BUG AND CANNOT UNINSTALL?

[twilit lake]

Anyone know how I can get a refund for my Chaf Cash?

[weak crow]

if they just added paypal and IDeal as payment options im pretty sure no1 would have a problem buying the game

[hollow willow]

What free VPNs are people using? Any names? Proton?

[twilit lake]

or when the game will be avablie to buy?

[bold obsidian]

just message the person that pops up when you go to support and ask for a refund, then after a bit it will tell you waht to do

[halcyon gate]

unfortunately nova kun i will have to deny your request. im sure that sketchy stream service will give me viruses similar to the time i attempted to watch mall cop 2 on a website

[tacit forge]

this has probably been answered already but I must ask -- what if I buy the game thru Chaf, will the game be activated thru blacksmith? How does that work? 🤔

[silk moss]

launcher wont open!

[empty tulip]

please, my game is installing at %1 every 30 mins, i have good internet, whats wrong?

[bold obsidian]

you cant buy it with chaf cash so just refund

[low jay]

CDO Constructor ERROR ! Please help!

[valid fog]

what a sad experience this is. would have been a better launch through tested servers....idk like steam.

[halcyon gate]

are you actually jack black?

goin to report you for identity theft. you shouldnt do that

[lethal star]

cringe

[lavish ingot]

sir this is q and a not complain about a small company in legal troubles trying to release a game with more popularity than they anticipated forum simulator

[halcyon gate]

reported.

[bold obsidian]

reported.

[edgy onyx]

Where would i sign up for the dark and darker play test?

[silk moss]

Launcher won’t open/:

[low jay]

CDO Constructor error! Anyone?

[lethal star]

So cringe

[mystic hull]

Does anyone know if there's any plans to release the game on a unified plataform with either localized prices or that accept local payement so I don't have to pay taxes twice?

[raw jackal]

HELP I deleted the launcher and when I try to redownload with the installer it reads "Blacksmith is already installed."

[hollow willow]

Go to Recycle Bin and un-delete the files and uninstall it naturally.

[lavish ingot]

person with anime pic calls things cringe lmao

[lethal star]

A person with a dog picture comments. Cringe.

[bold obsidian]

probably just gonna stay on there own dad site, but they will prolly make it easier in the future

[storm flint]

I unistalled the launcher and it deleted half my desktop icons and some files/notes, system restore brought some back feelsbadman.

[fleet cedar]

Are there any patchnotes for this version?

[halcyon gate]

my brother احماهدسهالامباجفاض assited in the programmin of golf tournament simulater 7 back in 2009

[lavish ingot]

cOPe

[spice musk]

i downloaded the launcher but it won't run lol

[lethal star]

cRINGe

[vital bridge]

Dude it is most freaking definitely a waste of time to switch to a VPN ../

[fringe iris]

launching the game would be harder than escaping the dungeon

[blissful swallow]

which files are you missing?

[halcyon gate]

could you explain what cring means?

[mystic hull]

It would be nice. Here I'm subject to an international tax if I pay on my currency and I would really like to avoid it, since it's already pretty expensive after convertion.

[lavish ingot]

dont listen to this smooth brain, ive downloaded 50% in 15 minutes on vpn, took me 90 minutes to go 20% without

[lethal star]

Could you explain what xur means?

[low jay]

pmd

[vital bridge]

On which VPN then? Cuz I'm trying Proton like has been said, I'm currently getting 1.04 MB/sec

[halcyon gate]

a hemilain god that we worship in our country. he is the god of misfortune and rain

[remote tundra]

Hey Im trying to buy the game on the darkanddarker site and it won't let me put in my postal code? It'll only allow numbers in the window mine has letters

[late elk]

what server did you connect to?

[lavish ingot]

pls dont tell me ur still on american servers...

[gusty perch]

What is this man’s pfp
Also 10 minute slow down
#the-tavern message

[lethal star]

cringe

[tawdry crag]

any way to upgrade from normal version to founders edition?

[silk moss]

help! launcher wont open!

[halcyon gate]

im still unsure what the meaning of that is.. could you possibly explain

[vital bridge]

No, NL - I can only choose NL, Japan, and US .. and obviously not trying to use US servers.. :x

[late elk]

Just type 12345 like I did, someone mentioned that above

[lavish ingot]

well sheeit idk then im on NL getting 5MB/s down

[covert stream]

So does someone with a creditcard and ideal want to earn a buck, i need the game and cant buy.

[verbal geyser]

Is anyone able to stack potions?

[gusty perch]

#the-tavern message
This man has an interesting pfp

[lethal star]

It means your cringe

[storm flint]

Why can't you buy

[remote tundra]

thankyou!!

[halcyon gate]

while i am still new to the english language, i think it would be spelled you're

[covert stream]

@storm flint I dont own a phone and all payment methods require a phone/creditcard.

[lavish ingot]

broh is clearly 12 and just learned the word from a meme, dont feed the troll

[late elk]

How are you guys seeing your download speeds? Mine hasn't moved from 0% in 10 mins on NL VPN servers

[lethal star]

and yet you are still so cringe

[fossil rune]

please do not monetize the game this way $10 for classes on a $35 game is an insane ask for the state of the game

[night geyser]

why no more voip?

[gusty perch]

Yes. Very insane

[verbal geyser]

Legal issues (Should be back soon they said)

[weak crow]

how u mean?

[shrewd spire]

Would love to know why they decided to charge for 2 other classes after people already pay 50$ kinda scummy i think even nexon wouldnt have done that.

[lavish ingot]

they talked about it in #📢announcements itll be back, they just dont want to mess with legal issues

[fossil rune]

how is it insane?

[gusty perch]

Ps what is VOIP?

[storm flint]

In-game voice

[iron oxide]

any response from devs on this scummy day 0 dlc?

[weak crow]

no like how u mean charging 10,- for classes

[bold obsidian]

gonna msg me back pal?? im waiting

[dawn night]

Anyone else stuck at launcher login screen? Clicking log in doesn’t do anything

[fossil rune]

the bard and warlock are $10 or you have to grind them out which seems like it will take some time

[haughty gorge]

If I buy through Blacksmith can I later activate on Steam after the IronMace wins the lawsuit against the Nexon scumbags

[honest arch]

anyone knows if i can play with the 6$sub from chafgames?

[modern fjord]

Anyone know why I click my edition and it says "Dark and darker will be available soon!"

[weak crow]

lol really? thats gee....

[analog wing]

This is so fk8jg dumb official site doesn't accept PayPal and chaf isn't even allowing you to buy the game rn

[covert stream]

paypal is dumb btw.

[verbal geyser]

Can somebody tell me if that potions cant stack anymore

[gusty perch]

Wow. I heard rumors but they actually did that?

[analog wing]

Money is dumb btw.

[boreal nest]

sooooo where to i install dark and darker ? is it on steam under dark

[hollow willow]

I can confirm that using ProtonVPN and setting your server to a low-utilization Netherlands server will make your download speed tremendously improve.

[shrewd spire]

mabye u can earn them from ingame playing but tbh i dont like the precedent being set kinda expected full access to an early access game after spending 50$
yeah considering people are happily supporting it but putting classes behind a paywall is kinda scummy after paying 50$
@flint harness the community was raising money for them to help pay for this and they claimed they didnt need it.

[lethal star]

so cringe

[cerulean pond]

Ok, I am sure that this is a reoccurring problem but can anyone walk me through how to fix my launcher? it just reads program already installed

[flint harness]

could it be that they ran out of money due to lawsuit and needed now extra money fast from early access to continue LS?

[late elk]

Look in the #📢announcements there is a link to their official website where you can buy the game and download the launcher.

[verbal geyser]

No. Its on their site darkanddarker.com or available via chafgames.com/games/dark-and-darker

[bold obsidian]

12hrs

[honest arch]

35 is way to much if they cant handle this bit honestly

[lone aurora]

im stuck on the main menu and it just says dark and darker any fixes

[lethal star]

Imagien thinking you can threaten someone with dossing them. So cringe.

[gusty perch]

Yeah. The precedent is bad. It would’ve been nice for DaD to stand up against the over monetized AAA games and had no game play effecting MTX. Basically buy once and no more necessary. Then they could have cosmetics MTX, or make you earn other classes and more cosmetics. Then what is the grind? Remember how many games are P2W but say you can earn the content but really you need to put an inhuman amount of time to unlock them, still P2W garbage.

[bold obsidian]

cringe

[lilac remnant]

HAve a friend who's getting the CDO Constructor error, did anyone find a fix for this?

[modest copper]

anyway to speed up downlaod?

[mystic yarrow]

zip code issue on aus?

[lone aurora]

im stuck on the main menu and it just says dark and darker any fixes???????

[shrewd spire]

Such a disappointment

[hexed pilot]

WHERE DO I GOT TO DOWNLOAD/GET THE GAME

[blissful swallow]

its from missing files

[swift sluice]

anyone know why everytime I open dark and darker it closes instantly?

[weak phoenix]

anyone know how to fix the launcher already being installed bug? i restored it from my recycling bin but i still cant seem to install the launcher at all

[late elk]

#📢announcements has the link to the official website to purchase the game and download the launcher to install the game.

[gusty perch]

Something is a little fishy about this release. What do you think? I want to support DaD so bad. So bad. I’ve been supportive but now I’m a bit uncertain. I talked many times about this and how I fear IM could fall for these traps. Look in the Off Topic chat and look at the logs. You see me talking about these traps IM could easily fall for and I pray they don’t. But then some white knights attack me personally even though I am a brother. Let’s pray this is all one big fluke that’ll get fixed and nothing was wrong.

[modest copper]

anyone find a way to speed up download

[spice musk]

how do you open a CRDownload file???

[tacit forge]

purchases thru XSolla on the DaD website? 🤔

[late elk]

Apparently using a VPN and connecting to a server outside the US works. Personally I haven't found any luck improving my speed that way.

[gusty perch]

Anyways how is everything going?

[muted linden]

Anyone have a solution to the zip code thing? I don't have one of those.

[swift sluice]

Anyone know why my game crashes and says not enough video memory? My memory is completely fine and can play other games

[last garnet]

My launcher doesn’t open

[late elk]

Just put "12345" as your zip code, worked for me in Canada.

[lethal star]

cringe

[sonic bone]

I purchased the game how do i install now - license status is purchased

[lavish ingot]

hey thats not canada, thats schenectady!

[tacit forge]

xsolla not letting me buy the thing 😭

[agile relic]

hello how to buy game????pls help what payment options available

[storm flint]

i just get stuck here https://i.imgur.com/EjvMEAW.png

[late elk]

SHHH DON'T TELL THE GOVERNMENT

[molten hazel]

Has anyone in the US installed it without using VPN?

[devout dew]

any reason why blacksmith wont open for me?

[robust river]

It seems Shadow PC players who bought DaD on ChafGames managed to get in, but those who bought it on DaD website can't cause it detects Shadow as a virtual machine... Please if any dev reads this fix this asap 😢

[river wharf]

can someone explain what test access means

[lavish ingot]

awww shit i dont want no stitches my b

[coarse jackal]

having issues with this as well

[weak crow]

FINALLY IVE BEEN ABLE TO BUY THE GAME AS EUROPEAN!! THANK YOU REVOLUT!!

[sick flax]

can we upgrade to the founders edition after buying standard edition or do we have to pay full price again?

[late elk]

Butcher sadly download speeds are going to be very slow rn it's not stuck, it's just going very slow.

[honest arch]

how

[fossil pond]

Couldnt start :

[sonic bone]

Yo it let me buy the game do I just click "LAUNCHER DOWNLOAD"?

I think the website is lagging clickign it does nothing - is there an official mirror download anywhere?

[storm flint]

is everyone here having issues using the blacksmith launcher?

[weak crow]

virtual credit card through revolut, topped up the revolut account with IDeal

[devout dew]

yeah mines stuck booting up

[last garnet]

yes me too

[shell citrus]

game stuck at 10/90 for download what does it mean

[coarse jackal]

welp, that sucks

[honest arch]

love how they say payment is back but nothing changed xD

[blazing cape]

so will we have the game when it fully comes out if were buying early access

[river wharf]

can someone explain the difference between test access and early accesss

[tacit forge]

so it's not just me

[fossil pond]

Couldnt start game error when launch!

[twilit lake]

How long will it take a chaf employ to reply to a message about refunding?

[vagrant leaf]

DONT USE THE UNINSTALLER ❤️ IT UNINSTALLS YOUR WHOLE COMPUTER ❤️

[weak crow]

lol i just started downloading a sec ago alrdy downloaded 3 gb what are yall crying about with download speeds

[storm flint]

any chaf users here having problems

[late elk]

Intrusive thoughts kicking in

[honest arch]

you are using chafgames client?

[fossil pond]

Couldnt start game error when launch!

[weak crow]

no clue hwo that is, but no just the one downloaded from the official site from IronMace, i just have good 1000 up 1000 down glassfiber, guess everyones internet just sucks

[alpine juniper]

how do you get a flute? can you not start with it?

[river wharf]

can someone explain the difference between test access and early access

[vagrant leaf]

no intrusive thoughts. several people have the issue. friend just had all of his desktop files deleted.

[honest arch]

nah its the server

[late elk]

spare me some megabytes :^(

[weak phoenix]

how can i actually install the launcher it says its on my pc i cant find it

[storm flint]

i had to do a system restore because of using their uninstaller

[shell citrus]

game wont download on the blacksmith launcher

[placid tangle]

How long does shop take to reset

[fossil pond]

Couldnt start game error when launch!

[nova laurel]

any plans for EU payment offerings? like .. anything beside credit card? i dont own a credit card :(

[worn salmon]

so does anyone know how to set the game to directx11

[civic pollen]

why does this game use so many tencent libraries...

[desert temple]

how can someone from canada buy the game when it needs a zipcode?

[late elk]

Yes, just type "12345" for the zip code. It worked for me and I'm from Canada too.

[hearty hatch]

Anyone else have a bug with no stash?

[shell citrus]

has anyone else had an issue with the game not installing on blacksmith?

[radiant halo]

Wym

[prisma plinth]

is it possible to change username after its already made

[karmic tiger]

wheres the download link

[pallid granite]

So the blue torch is no longer unlockable unless you buy the more expensive version? Big sad

[cyan solstice]

yeah my thing has just entirely stalled now

[viscid cargo]

I can't even install after I purchased it from the website. Anyone else having this issue?

[lyric wasp]

I installed game now its saying i have to update it anyone know a fix?

[red cliff]

Blacksmith not opening with Blacksmith.exe and the bootstrap
it's just sitting in my task manager
Has this been answered?

[gritty hare]

why can i only do 7 chars

[lucid dust]

where can we see a list of changes to bard

[sonic bone]

why do u need more than that day 1 unless ur trying to name hog

[remote tundra]

also having this issue now

[daring surge]

anyone having slow download speeds?

[gritty hare]

there are 8 classes, i can do 7 chars ... u see the problem ?!?

[sonic bone]

it is day 1 brother u will be fine 😂 they will likely address this soon tho

[gritty hare]

yea, im just askin if this will be fixed, cant be intended right

[wise gale]

Is there any sort of fix to the slow download speed on the Blacksmith launcher?

[pallid granite]

It downloaded hella fast for me try a VPN

[remote tundra]

I just closed the bootstrap in task manager and it popped open

[gritty hare]

well ill be Bardless until i can do more than 7 chars lol

[rigid turtle]

Can I upgrade to the founders edition later?

[warm salmon]

will the char being wipe after the test?we cant reserve name for many nasty reasons during downloading

[void sonnet]

ive turned off every device using wifi and i can normally download things extremely fast why is the launcher taking so long to download ontop of that now i need to update it is this normal?

[fossil rune]

BARD AND WARLOCK COST $10 OR 125 EXTRACTS WTF IS THIS IRONMACE P2W WILL KILL THIS GAME

[lofty veldt]

proton

[low jay]

CDO Constructor error when launching the game! please

[crisp glen]

I just bought the game, and I can't find the download for the game or for the fabled "blacksmith launcher". Why is it so damn hard to find a download link?

[fleet terrace]

I downloaded the launcher before and deleted. But now I download the launcher it says Blacksmith is already downloaded

[shadow canopy]

#the-tavern message

[crude pecan]

Can you still buy the game on chaf? I did earlier but my friends are having issues.. assuming it's just still backed up.

[limber flame]

darkanddarker.com at the top it says launcher download

[harsh hare]

my blacksmith installer says the game is already installed eventhough its not

[polar sky]

Anyone else have an issue where the download stops? the launcher doesnt freeze or anything it just stops progressing. (i have enough space. ~200gb free)

[crisp glen]

There's no "launcher download" on my screen. I've purchased the game, and I'm logged in to my account on the website

[nova forge]

Anyone got a solution for " Server error. please try again. " when trying to log-in in the launcher? edit:fixed by changing VPN server or settings

[main river]

I'm trying to download through the launcher and its very very slow is that normal?

[cosmic spire]

yes, mega overloaded rn

[abstract valley]

Okay I requested a refund for my first purchase that was in a limbo but I haven't received any word from Ironmace or Xsolla. Can someone help?

[paper sigil]

dude what is up with the download speed it’s at 21% after 2 hours

[spice musk]

@shadow canopy what's up mate

[crisp glen]

I can't even find the damn download button. How the hell are you supposed to get the game?

[fleet terrace]

thank u so much

[fossil rune]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/470603/unlock-all-classes-from-the-start

[chilly crystal]

They add any new playlists? Duos?

[lucid dust]

Hi, where do i find changes made to the bard?

[warm ridge]

^^^

[left mulch]

anyone else's launcher have the issue where if you press play, it changes to "stop" for a few seconds, but doesn't actually launch anything then goes back to "play"? also pressing "scan and repair" just crashes the launcher

[spark citrus]

fix the download?

[crisp glen]

Guys.... can anyone help me? I can't even find the download for the launcher. I've puchased the game already. I've scoured the website. There is no download button/link/whatever.

[stray iron]

this, please, i paid $50, downloaded the chafgames app and everything and i cant even start downloading the launcher

[covert stream]

@weak crow gz i made it too 🥹

[nova forge]

changing VPN server/settings (whatever did the job) fixed it for me

[hasty vine]

can you play now with standard? or must buy the founders????

[crisp glen]

This is absurd. Where the hell is the download?

[stray iron]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[covert stream]

standard tovenaartje

[vagrant leaf]

Uninstaller for dark and darker will uninstall all system files if ran 🙂 10+ occurrences and still no comments from devs

[sonic bone]

use google chrome and click download launcher - it didnt work on mozilla firefox for me

[warm ridge]

When will dark and darker be on steam?

[crisp glen]

I'm already on chrome, and there's no button for "download launcher"

[left mulch]

woah really? It's right next to "purchase now" for me

[wise ledge]

i feel so stuck i the download is horrificaly slow and vpns dont work at all

[granite needle]

does anyone crash instantly when they go into the "merchants" ?

[fallen coral]

nord vpn japan= zoomin download now

[lofty veldt]

did you try vpns? sitting at 23% not sure if i should wait

[crude pecan]

blacksmith launcher -> https://webdown.darkanddarker.com/Blacksmith Installer.exe

[heavy forum]

Hello my install is stuck at 0% can anyone help????

[crisp glen]

Holy shit, this is stupid. The "Launcher Download" button is HIDDEN at certain browser breakpoints. You have to manually resize the browser.

[left mulch]

LOL no way

[restive kernel]

same im stuck at 0% 10/99

[wise ledge]

which nord japan? theres 2

[weak crow]

nice xd

[quiet zinc]

nope, thats just how slow it is, I am sitting at 15% 2 hours in and I have 800 gbps down internet

[steel lagoon]

u have to pay for characters ?

[raven python]

when I try to run blacksmith it just hangs with the logo

[fallen coral]

osaka konichiwaaaaa

[heavy forum]

Is there any free vpns? for japan guys

[left mulch]

ty it at least stopped crashing for me, now just stuck at 10/99 again 😵

[merry garnet]

I can’t even buy the game because the website wants me to give it a Zip code when I have a Canadian postal code. I doubt there is any fix to this :(

[sonic bone]

protonvpn

[nova forge]

just have to wait. takes some time

[fallen coral]

went from 7% over 2 hours to 50% in 10 mins

[quiet zinc]

VPN doesnt work, thats not how downloading things works lol its still going to take the same amount of time no matter where your VPN is unless its in korea, where it wont work at all

[covert stream]

put in fake details so they cant come after u when u charge back the money

[stray iron]

where can i find the blacksmith installer?

[crisp glen]

Way. If your browser is wide enough it shows up on the top the screen, but if the window is too narrow, it doesn't show up anywhere in the side menu.

[quiet zinc]

darkanddarker.com

[left mulch]

Haha I just tested that, that's insane

[fallen coral]

darkanddarkercocks.com

[crisp tinsel]

Hey guys, can you buy the game in Australia?

[crisp glen]

I'm getting really sketchy vibes from this so far. Sketchy launch, sketchy purchase, sketchy launcher, sketchy P2W

[royal wave]

discord said "alex and the nut are typing" and why do i feel like that would be a sick band name XD @crisp tinsel @left mulch get on that

[urban charm]

!help launcher wont open I downloaded game launcher crashed and doesnt open anymore

[quiet zinc]

sure can, everywhere but korea it looks like, the target audience was EU and US, and if you cant buy it in AUS a VPN to EU will allow you

[jovial yew]

Are shadow PCs going to be allowed just want to know if I should buy the game even it's gonna take a while. They worked in the all the pretests. But now I can't even begin the launcher installation :c

[wise ledge]

yeah osaka aint helping no progress made

[crisp glen]

Ugh.. They're doing premium currencies... I'm really really getting bad vibes from this and I haven't even downloaded it yet.

[sudden juniper]

Is the download still taking forever?

[crisp tinsel]

so how do I go about providing a ZIP for billing? it's asking for 5 digits but Aussie zip codes are only 4

[quiet zinc]

just the servers being overwhelmed from peak hours, try again later, it is working, it shouldnt be down for anyone right now, expect some slowness

[weak crow]

if u have Revolut just top up your revolut account and use the virtual credit card in there to purchase on the site

[raven python]

thanks it eventually worked. I though I messed something up trying to manually copy my brother's install files

[fallen coral]

try darkanddarkercocks.com then

[smoky zinc]

im gonna cry i ruined my client and now i cant even download the launcher or game anymore

[worn salmon]

How do you run the game in DX11 with the blacksmith launcher?

[vague imp]

Is there somewhere that people are documenting the changes from the last EA to this playtest?

[quiet zinc]

Do you have any EU friends you can send the money to? I think you will need an EU/US card and address to pay, unless you with paypal or apple pay, then you can trick it by just changing your zip in those apps

[raven python]

what is happening? I had to delete the IRONMACE registry entry when I was messing around with it

[covert stream]

found a way to pay without phone and credit card, eu only pm

[sonic venture]

I keep getting an error message on attempting to launch the game. Any idea how to fix it?
Couldn't start:
"C:\Program Files\IRONMACE\Dark and Darker\DungeonCrawler\Binaries\Win64\DungeonCrawler.exe"
DungeonCrawler -ironmace=1
-server=http://live-service.darkanddarker.com:3000 -nosteam
CreateProcess() returned c1

[fossil pond]

CANT LAUNCH GAME ERROR

[jovial yew]

Are shadow PCs going to be allowed just want to know if I should buy the game even it's gonna take a while. They worked in the all the pretests. But now I can't even begin the launcher installation :c

[steel patio]

Anyone know what the lineholder role is?

[quiet zinc]

I know youll hate this, but that looks like a corrupt install error, I would try uninstalling/re-installing, that should help out. Remember the servers are overwhelmed right now so that could be causing it

[tough cave]

on chafgames the game isnt out yet 😦

[plush yoke]

is duel wielding worth it for rogue yet? Last playtest it was worthless

[fallen coral]

vpn worked for me tho i wasnt trolling, ymmv

[sonic venture]

🥹 I was hoping that anything else might work, guess I'll try it

[crisp tinsel]

Cheers for the info but think i'm out of luck on that one, sadge

[quiet zinc]

yes it is, the servers are just extra slow right now because of peak hours, the same thing happened on initial release, give it some time, that should help.

[cunning jackal]

where do i find the lootpile in gob cave?

[analog wing]

Why can't I buy the game off chaf??????

[quiet zinc]

google it and look for the map in images, I dont think its moved based on what I have seen.

[fossil pond]

I keep getting an error message on attempting to launch the game. Any idea how to fix it?
Couldn't start:
"C:\Program Files\IRONMACE\Dark and Darker\DungeonCrawler\Binaries\Win64\DungeonCrawler.exe"
DungeonCrawler -ironmace=1
-server=http://live-service.darkanddarker.com:3000/ -nosteam
CreateProcess() returned c1

[normal wyvern]

is anyone elses launcher stuck on "Updating"?

[chilly crystal]

Is there duo Q or same gamemodes from the tests

[smoky zinc]

i deleted the launcher and all of its files when the uninstaller originally jumbled and screwed up my pc, so i used the recycle bin and now all the installer tells me is that blacksmith is already installed

[fleet terrace]

#the-tavern message

[raven python]

yeah you have to go to regedit and delete Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\IRONMACE

[tough cave]

@quiet zinc why does it say for me Dark and darker will be available soon ! 😦

[leaden pollen]

try to sart and i get failed to open descriptor file dungeoncrawler

[fleet terrace]

i stuck on the creating character name

[raven python]

I forgot to reply, but if you see my previous message, doing that will let you run the installer again

[quiet zinc]

Try on DarkandDark.com instead of on ChafGames

[smoky zinc]

it just wont and @fleet terrace that doesnt help me either since it isnt in the registry

[cyan solstice]

anyone else's proton speeds in the bytes rn?

[flint oxide]

Is the luncher download slow for anyone else?

[outer abyss]

yeah mines crawling

[eager gulch]

for people who managed to play, what is the situation of international servers?

[low jay]

CDO Constructor error? anyone?

[rotund mica]

If you are getting "Blacksmith already installed" open up the registry editor by searching "regedit". Go to "HKEY_CURRENT_USER --> SOFTWARE --> IRONMACE" and then delete the "Blacksmith" folder.

[fleet terrace]

i cant create character

[smoky zinc]

IRONMACE isnt there for me which is the problem

[dense grail]

could someone let me know if darkanddarker.com is the correct link for blacksmith?

[coarse bolt]

is there voice chat in the new version of dark and darker?

[fleet terrace]

is that a sever issue or what

[silent coral]

If you are getting "Blacksmith already installed" open up the registry editor by searching "regedit". Go to "HKEY_CURRENT_USER --> SOFTWARE --> IRONMACE" and then delete the "Blacksmith" folder.

[wintry isle]

does the blacksmith client take 10 years to load for anyone else?

[restive kernel]

dont uninstall the launcher?

[rotund mica]

sure does

[cunning jackal]

and as always you got teaming dogs in solo.

sorry for tagging you mate

[jovial yew]

Q: is there anyway to get my Shadow PC allowed to start downloading? it worked in all the play tests but I cant even download the launcher now.

[fickle field]

are people getting full refunds or just the dupe charges?

[polar arrow]

Is there a Place to download the Uninstaller for the Launcher?

[uneven wren]

Does an unequipped shield (on your back) contribute to armor?

[haughty vault]

It's already 2 hours ironmace not answering to my ticket about game purchase. I didn't receive game but money was taken. How can i get the game?

[nova bone]

when i click download launcher is puts a weird text file

[radiant halo]

VPN absolutely is speeding it up. Idk why people lying saying it's not

[summer burrow]

after downloading with the VPN if i turn it off my game says update

[cunning jackal]

no only active weapons (in your hands)

[stray iron]

im stuck at 0%/ 10/99 using a PAID vpn, im connected to japan, and ive been waiting for a while for the bar to move and nothing is happening. im using blacksmith installer

[bright reef]

Quick question please, but what is test access? Does it mean I can only play the game now if I get founders edition?

[chrome coral]

I'm getting a server error when trying to make a Dark and Darker account on the website?

[lavish stirrup]

Probably a Public Test Access similar to the PTR/PTA of other games.

[halcyon phoenix]

I'm also seeing no progress with the blacksmith installer

[vivid marsh]

If anyone needs linux help let me know

[bright reef]

Okay, so I can just get the regular game if I wanted to start playing rn?

[lavish stirrup]

I would assume so? I'm having issues launching Blacksmith but there are people playing.

[dense grail]

currently installing the game on the 35$ edition

[sour hedge]

Sending a message for posterity; If anyone figures out a workaround for purchasing the game without the need of supplying a postcode for their billing information, or if they start allowing Aus postcodes, please let me know so I can get my copy of the game.

Edit (for those using the search bar): I was informed via DM that another Aussie managed to purchase the game by simply adding a 0 in the front of our normal postcodes.

[thorny crystal]

im installing founder eddition but its taking like 20 years

[bright reef]

oki sweet, thanks everyone! I'd buy the $50 one, but I'm both:
Broke
And unwilling to pay AAA price tag for a game I'm not sure of the near outcome of :p

[sharp sequoia]

When I run the game from the blacksmith launcher it says "connecting..." and then just gives me the message "Failed to connect to the server. Quit the game", is this happening for anyone else or does anyone know how to fix this?
This is so frustrating.

[raven python]

honestly at this point I wish they used a torrent. I copied all the files from my brother but the installer needs to set up the registry to recognize them. annoying as heck

[twin owl]

does anyone know if i buy the standard version now, and want to upgrade later, will i just pay the difference of the $15

[somber delta]

Connect to Osaka Japan on NordVPN and update go smooth like butter

[velvet frigate]

what happens if the play button is on but the game didnt download

[viscid loom]

Does anyone know if i can run the game with (acer Nitro 5 Gaming Laptop 15.6" FHD 144Hz, Intel Core i5-10300H(up to 4.5GHz), GeForce RTX 3050, 16GB RAM 512GB PCIe SSD)

[crisp glen]

This launch is going really miserably.

[summer panther]

if you dont have a credit card, is it even possible to purchase the game/

[stray iron]

IT SAYS BLACKSMITH IS ALREADY INSTALLED BUT I LITERALLY DONT HAVE IT INSTALLED ANYWHERE ON MY PC

[lavish stirrup]

Absolutely

[sonic bone]

yes it does lmao dont listen to this dude - literally just downloaded the whole game in less than 30 minutes after i used JAPAN VPN - did 2% in 30 without it

[royal cypress]

İnstaller says it already installed

[covert stream]

bought with bank transfer, no phone, no creditcard

[sour hedge]

I'd also appreciate being @'d if you get told that answer 🙏

[viscid loom]

Ah okay cause last time i played it was when it got removed from steam and my laptop fan was going insanely loud

[paper sigil]

what vpn/country do i connect to to download faster

[crisp glen]

Don't bother with VPNs. It's just a slow download.

[atomic belfry]

anyone got a his chaf copy working?

[lavish stirrup]

Control Panel > Uninstall a Program > Blacksmith

[runic creek]

yo after 2 hours my shit is at a whopping 13% what the fuck do i do?

[crisp glen]

I really wish this were distributed through steam...

[weak crow]

then they would have to give up like 20% of income to steam....

[lavish stirrup]

It can't be currently. They're fighting a DMCA sent by Nexon that prevents Valve from hosting the game.

[analog wing]

Almost like every other company has done this and hasn't had a problem

[grave nymph]

is there a way to gift dnd to someone

[wise ledge]

should i use proton or nord

[runic creek]

Bro if it were on steam it would have 100% more sales anyways

[crisp glen]

You don't need to use a VPN. It's just a really slow download.

[marsh hearth]

I need help

[weak crow]

yeah because the audience steam brings, but this game already created an audience with hype etc, no need to pay steam for recognition when u already have huge recognition

[candid chasm]

does standard edition mean we cant play after this test or does it mean we cant play a ptr or something, i thought this was a release of sorts o.O

[left mulch]

Using a VPN causes my launcher to freak out and crash, but not using one means ive been at 0% for 20 minutes lol

[grave nymph]

is there a way to gift dnd to someone

[jovial yew]

Q: is there anyway to get my Shadow PC allowed to start downloading? it worked in all the play tests but I cant even download the launcher now.

[summer swift]

Cap. I just put a VPN on and went from 10.34GB to 9.26GB in 60 seconds.

[analog wing]

You are sadly mistaken of you think steam is only for bringing in players with more advertisement

[stray iron]

BLACKSMITH INSTALLER SAYS I HAVE IT INSTALLED AND I DONT, ITS REMOVED FROM PROGRAM AND APPS ON MY PC + CONTROL PANNEL YET I CANT RE-INSTALL IT

[marsh hearth]

how do I buy the game without a credit card?

[crisp glen]

#q-and-a message

[sharp sequoia]

just give them an account

[weak crow]

well its the main reason, sure u get servers through steam if u on their platform but servers are way cheaper to rent when u not aligning with steam

[nova forge]

maybe try a different VPN service/server? I'm using VPN and download works fine. At 84% now

[fathom jasper]

Are either of the ways to buy the game working? It won't let me get past the store page in Chaf and I've gotten "Transaction Failed" for Blacksmith

[summer swift]

Can confirm, just threw a VPN on 4 minutes ago and I'm already at 75%.

[grave sorrel]

potions and bandages not stacking. is it proposital ?

[storm flint]

vpn didnt work feelsbadman

[low jay]

CDO Constructor ERROR! Please help

[dense hare]

which vpn?

[fast parcel]

which vpn and where are you putting your location?>

[smoky zinc]

what if the thing isnt in the registry

[twin owl]

FOR ANYONE WONDERING: When i went to the dark and darker website Darkanddarker.com after purchasing the $35 version. I went to the shop where you purchase the game and selected the upgraded version. The website detected that i owned the $35 version and the upgrade only costs $15. So you do not need to pay $50 after the $35 if you want to upgrade

[crisp glen]

no idea

[left mulch]

can I ask what vpn u use? i'm using PIA

[summer swift]

ProtonVPN, just used 'quick connect' but it put me in the Netherlands. Working great tho.

[storm flint]

proton netherland didnt work

[stray iron]

im using express vpn tokyo servers after paying for it, and my game is still stuck at 10/99 or 0%, this is getting really fustrating for $50

[nova forge]

I am using PIA as well. VPN server JP Tokyo

[analog wing]

Nobody cares about money when it comes to dark and darker the game is going to be a huge hit and spending a little extra on the best and most familiar platform in the world is worth it the only reason its not on there now is because the dmca. If there was no dmca it would be on steam rn with no problems

[crisp glen]

I'm not using a VPN at all. The download is slow, but manageable. I have 2GB left. There's really not a good reason that a VPN should help download speeds. That's basically anecdotal superstition.

[thick jetty]

When the game is available on Steam again, will the Founder's Edition be available for purchase?

[twin owl]

@sour hedge

[summer swift]

Worked for me, I'm in the game finally LOL.

[vivid marsh]

i was stuck at 1 gig left for 45 mins and switching to vpn redownloaded all of it and the 1.5 gig update after in less than 30 seconds (netherlands vpn)

I had to restart my pc twice tho for it to even work

[left mulch]

so weird, i'm on the same but it will try to update for a few seconds then crash

[crisp glen]

Sounds more like resetting the connection is what did it...

[trail sigil]

its smart to stay off steam at this point. keep a bigger cut then from the purchases.

[analog wing]

Only if you can handle keeping your game off steam

[nova forge]

what's your shadow socks setting?

[covert stream]

did you know steam servers also slow down?

[indigo inlet]

"Blacksmith is already installed" when it very much isn't. any help?

[trail sigil]

this game obviously can. since they did it with a torrent browser

[sour hedge]

Cheers you legend 🙏

[wise gale]

VPN doesn't seem to be doing anything

[left mulch]

oomg wait it suddenly picked up lol, yipeee

[raven python]

japan vpn fixed it for me

[nova forge]

If you are getting "Blacksmith already installed" open up the registry editor by searching "regedit". Go to "HKEY_CURRENT_USER --> SOFTWARE --> IRONMACE" and then delete the "Blacksmith" folder.

[summer swift]

I closed out of launcher, quick connected with ProtonVPN, launched the launcher and started the download again and it took ~5 minutes. I'm in-game now.

[analog wing]

Check general chat for me then tell me that again, the only reason they get away with this amount of bs with chaf and servers and the official site is because the game is just that good (Also the torrent was a nightmare and it was a complete mess, nobody wanted to play that beta to the point of people actually not playing and waiting for EA)

[green needle]

thank you so much!

[indigo inlet]

love you

[wise gale]

I'll try that, ty

[left halo]

actively happening to me, happened after uninstalling, have cleared all instances of Blacksmith and Ironmace from my pc :p

[smoky zinc]

what if IRONMACE isnt showing up then?

[dire iron]

Do I lose anything if I make a new account instead of using one from the play test?

[trail sigil]

this is a pretty standard launch for small company jumping in with a hit. we've seen other games do similarly before and it pretty much ends up like this. its not bs in the slightest its a minor issue from a HUGE influx of players. and they gotta do it on a budget with a smaller amount of staff.

[somber pivot]

Whenever my download reaches 1% I get a notification that “dark and darker is ready to play” which then cancels the update and because I have auto update on it just restart the update at 0% anyone know any fixes?

[vagrant leaf]

@trail sigil the Uninstaller wipes your computer of all files. Not standard afaik

[latent pulsar]

remember guys revo uninstaller and delete all registry files relating to blacksmith client

[fast parcel]

what is that for?

[bold obsidian]

my game is chillin at 0/90 is that normal?? can i go to bed?

[latent pulsar]

if you get the "blacksmith already installed" error

[wooden nest]

When the game is full released will we get a version on steam if we buy it now? Or will we have to buy it again

[runic creek]

Yo guys my download is slow as hell anybody know what i should do? (im on blacksmith btw)

[analog wing]

Cap, tarkov wasn't this bad, the cycle wasn't this bad, starsiege wasn't this bad, none of them even came close to this much chaos. I'm honestly tired of people saying its a small company its expected to have these issues, yeah it is expected but not to this degree like not at all if all these other small companies can do it they can too

[bold obsidian]

someones mad they cant play dark and darker

[analog wing]

The only reason they keep their game off steam is for more money to go public with their company and become a new AAA company

[vagrant leaf]

I'm mad dark and darker is wiping entire hard drives with its Uninstaller, and there's been no announcement does that count?

[trail sigil]

all of those games you mentioned are larger backed companies that have libraries of games prior. this one does not. yes to this degree. we saw the same issues with wow when blizzard wasnt big.

[bold obsidian]

thats fair

[weak crow]

i assume if we unlock a class its unlocked forever? so even when a wipe comes it stays unlocked no?

[fast parcel]

lmao yes launching the game like this is going to cause all of that lmao

[wooden nest]

When they launch on stream will we get a version of it there if we already buy it now?

[trail sigil]

honestly dude you kinda sound like a nexon supporter. you sus af

[bold obsidian]

they wont launch on steam

[worn salmon]

once again, does anyone know how to enable DirectX11????

[analog wing]

I can't even name a single Nexon game lmao

[weak crow]

nah hes just ignorant and ranting on his own feelings

[runic creek]

YO WHY IS MY DOWNLOAD SO SLOW!!!!!!

[storm flint]

drew i feel thats an easy question to google

[wooden nest]

They said they are working towards launching on steam eventually though

[trail sigil]

likely not. but you can add games to your steam library. it acts as a quick link then

[bold obsidian]

i doubt they will, they are just gonna make their launcher better and keep the extra money

[radiant halo]

Directx runtime?

[cyan solstice]

anyone got a fix for the couldnt start?

[analog wing]

And you're just hopping on the bandwagon on hating on others 👍

[wide tulip]

I broke Blacksmith by deleteing the files and attempting to reinstall. but it says its still installed every time i try to run the installer. could a line holder get a hand?

[low jay]

CDO CONSTRUCTOR ERROR PLEASE HELP!

[marsh spade]

same here. have reinstalled three times

[wooden nest]

The only thing I'm worried about is achievements on steam not as much it being quicker

[gusty perch]

Any mods? It says I can't upload an emoji. It says I already did one this week. But that's not true. I'd like to upload one. Can you fix it so it resets for me in the week? I tried to do a ticket but had some problems btw.

[tight slate]

why cant I buy the game, I get an error code 3032

[runic raft]

Is there any information whether they add Paypal to options?

[trail sigil]

thats a weird thing to be concerned about.

[low jay]

yepper same here, ran as admin, vpn, whole 9

[crisp glen]

Woo hoo! Download complete, Play button available!

[smoky zinc]

yeah i give up, if anyone can help me please do

[wooden nest]

Yeah I agree my friend doesn't play games unless they are on steam and have achievements it's extremely dumb but I want him to hop in the dungeon with me lol

[trail sigil]

whats your issue?

[candid chasm]

can you not pay with pay pal o.O

[void sonnet]

i gotta update the game???? some how

[gusty perch]

@willow nest or any other mods here^^^

[smoky zinc]

tried to do the deleting registry thing yet its not in the registry

[wide tulip]

i think i cleared it in the registry and everything but it still says installed and wont allow me to reinstall the launcher

[trail sigil]

whats not in the registry

[analog wing]

No, try chaf if you want to use PayPal

[smoky zinc]

IRONMACE, i apparently need to delete it but it isnt there

[viral lark]

any way to get this game with regional pricing?

[radiant halo]

Did anyone get passed the directx runtime error?

[cyan solstice]

Anyone getting an error like this? Any idea how to solve it?:

Couldn't start C:\Program Files\IRONMACE\Dark and Darker\DungeonCrawler\Binaries\Win64\DungeonCrawler.exe" DungeonCrawler -ironmace=1 -server=http://live-service.darkannddarker.com:30000 -nosteam CreateProcess returned c1.

[gusty perch]

@stiff bay @dawn gull ^^^

[trail sigil]

then you dont need that fix. if ive been following that support correctly

[candid chasm]

heard they've been ghosting purchases so idk about them rn

[trail sigil]

try run as admin

[smoky zinc]

i cant reinstall the launcher tho since it says that its already its installed when it isnt

[trail sigil]

whats your file path?

[frank ferry]

Is VOIP gone??

[trail sigil]

gotta diagnose that first then

[cyan solstice]

doesnt open if ran as admin

[trail sigil]

when you run the launcher is it in your programs list on task manager?

[smoky zinc]

i cant do the file path,ill send a photo in a sec

[robust zodiac]

just downloaded the game but its been stuck "installing" for like 30 mins is that normal?

[swift nebula]

how to fix sound?

[low jay]

CDO CONSTRUCTOR ERROR PLEASE HELP!!!!

[trail sigil]

restart the launcher

[fast parcel]

was just at 7%

[dapper arrow]

i used a vpn to download and it took like 3 mins but its not working for my friend. anyone know why??

[tight slate]

I cant buy the game, I keep gettting erroe code 3032

[analog wing]

Agreed just wait till they add the payment method to the official website if they decide to do that anytime soon which they might not even

[trail sigil]

then sorry boss youre on youre own. havent seen much of that one yet

[fast parcel]

was just at 7% bought nord vpn and connected to salt lake city in less than 2 min i am at 26%

[cyan solstice]

rip

[wide tulip]

found it reinstalling blacksmith

[tight slate]

Yo I keep getting error code 3032, dose no one know about this wtf, this has happened to 3 of my freinds

[trail sigil]

if a VPN is in your reach it has been showing sometimes helpful if those who say so are speaking the truth. just a tip for those on slow speed issues

[tight slate]

Yo I keep getting error code 3032, dose no one know about this wtf, this has happened to 3 of my freinds need some help guys

[trail sigil]

according to xsolla support that is a chargeback error

[wheat granite]

my payment on xsolla keeps getting cancelled. anyone else with the problem? i got a working credit card

[trail sigil]

when are you getting this error

[tight slate]

anytime I try and buy the game through dark and darker.com, Ive made new accounts and used different credit cards

[radiant halo]

Anyone with issues with directx please look into this for a fix. It did it for me https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35

[smoky zinc]

@trail sigil sent you the image

[dapper arrow]

anyone have any ideas why using a vpn worked for me but not my buddy 😭

[trail sigil]

i had to use my gf's card mine wouldnt go through

[wheat granite]

thanks, will try the same

[fast parcel]

Just need to reconnect to another server i personally did that and I went to 40% in less than 5 min

[trim fossil]

do we have to buy again if the game gets on steam?

[tight slate]

Yo I keep getting error code 3032, dose no one know about this wtf, this has happened to 3 of my freinds need some help guys (spamming until I get a solution)

[jovial yew]

Q: is there anyway to get my Shadow PC allowed to start downloading? it worked in all the play tests but I cant even download the launcher now.

[tight slate]

Yo I keep getting error code 3032, dose no one know about this wtf, this has happened to 3 of my freinds need some help guys (spamming until I get a solution nothing else i can do)

[trail sigil]

your best bet is to contact xsolla

[trail sigil]

more than likely but im sure they are always watching like the good overlords they are. anything is possible. Hold the Line

[civic nova]

My friend is having issues with the game he cant see Doors and chests, cant interact with them

[trim fossil]

so we have to buy it again

[tacit path]

I can't buy the game. keep getting error 3032 on xsolla

[trail sigil]

more than likely a graphic error of some kind try a restart of the game then move on with drivers

[tight slate]

honestly doubt there going to respond

[low jay]

CDO CONSTRUCTOR ERROR PLEASE ADVISE!

[tacit path]

they told me i had a dispute from something in 2019 or some shit lol

[thorny quail]

Is there a way to "swap" launchers? I purchased the game on Chaf and the game crashed at least twice every game im in (my pc isn't the problem)

[fossil pond]

HOW TO GET REFUND GAME ISNT LAUNCHING

[trail sigil]

c++ error restart or reinstall

[tight slate]

ive never bought anything from them

[tacit path]

same as far as I'm aware. not sure wtf is up

[noble mesa]

Why can't I put letters in the zip code?

[fossil pond]

Fatal error!

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x000001927bec1e00

0x00007ff70e0a4ffe DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70e097d45 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70e0a773d DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ecf4f47 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ecb61fc DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ecd9f58 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ce44ea5 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ce50f26 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ce3d1b0 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ce50226 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ce580a7 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70ce5440a DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70cddfbf7 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007ff70cddafb1 DungeonCrawler.exe!UnknownFunction []
0x00007fff8e1f7614 KERNEL32.DLL!UnknownFunction []
0x00007fff8e3626b1 ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction []

Crash in runnable thread FAsyncLoadingThread

[tight slate]

hope they fix it, dont wanna miss out on founders pack

[trail sigil]

its definitely a xsolla issue. so they would be your only answer for finding that informaiton

[low jay]

no sir! ran a reinstall, repair, and restart. same error

[trail sigil]

that error happens when you dont have a critical file for the CDO constructor to push causing an error. check your drivers is the best i got for ya sorry bud.

[atomic belfry]

anyone got a his chaf copy working? mine saying it cannot launch the game

[trail sigil]

try run as admin

[fossil pond]

@trail sigil doesnt work

[trail sigil]

gonna prob take an update to fix that one. stay posted in chat to see if another pops up like you

[tulip axle]

https://youtu.be/K513guFwzEg hey guys I have a vid that can help if your having trouble with downloading the game

[jovial yew]

Q: is there anyway to get my Shadow PC allowed to start downloading? it worked in all the play tests but I cant even download the launcher now.

[trail sigil]

whats a shadow pc

[jovial yew]

It's a virtual machine. Basically a service where you stream a good PC to your bad PC and you can run anything

[fringe ivy]

anyone else rubberbanding like crazy?

[marsh hearth]

How can I buy the game without credit card? I have paypal only or bank transfer/ debit card

[candid chasm]

can you only buy the game with an american zip code lol

[dusky flame]

Was just about to ask that

[twin hinge]

will dark and darker be on steam

[candid chasm]

seems like it might have to wait for chafgames to not be so sus cause it takes pay pal unlike the actual site

[trail sigil]

https://www.chafgames.com/games/dark-and-darker

[dusky flame]

Ohh alright

[marsh hearth]

@trail sigil is this official ?

[trail sigil]

yes

[trail sigil]

yes

[tulip axle]

https://youtu.be/K513guFwzEg here’s a little guide to help you guys get on the game if you’re still having trouble

[storm flint]

just bought proton and still no luck

[undone stone]

i bought the game on the actual dark and darkersite but i cant find where to download or access it anywhere. help?

[uncut pawn]

what happens if the game releases on steam, how will the account be handled?

[trail sigil]

restart your launcher. it should change to install. i had to reset it twice

[marsh hearth]

@trail sigil cant buy it there it says "available soon" I give up

[dusky flame]

Clicking the buy button and it's not working

[undone stone]

the actual chaf launcher? @trail sigil i bought it on the dark and darker site rather through chaf. so how does it even link to begin with

[trail sigil]

then its an issue with chaf. its in the announcement to buy it there.

[trail sigil]

its run off the same server according to the announcement

[crude narwhal]

Buy button isn't working, any idea why or when they'll fix it?

[whole raft]

Anyone know if the trolls been changed?

[dusty fiber]

So we need to buy the game to play it atm? is delux manditory to play it now or normal version works

[elfin condor]

Steam would be the best place and way to buy the game for most of us including me any news on when it's going to be released there? Till then I'll be holding the line once more but with higher hope

[trail sigil]

normal works

[tribal finch]

anyone else constantly disconnecting in the lobby?

[trail sigil]

eh thats not the most economic thing right now since steam takes a cut. nothing has been said for awhile about it.

[uncut pawn]

@trail sigil yea its in limbo but its the most secure way for a lot of people that want to buy it.

[trail sigil]

try a different method some buttons are occasionally broken

[meager nacelle]

I mean I think the only way steam will bring it back onto the store is whenever ironmace gets out of the legal battle over the game

[trail sigil]

its pretty fine to just buy it any of the available methods.

[elfin condor]

Oh yeah no that's understandable just looking forward for it to be released in any major game website like epic or gog so paypal would be usable because chafs game is very buggy

[uncut pawn]

i want to know what happens if you buy it now and then it does get onto steam again. bc id rather have/play it through steam

[meager nacelle]

I mean shit I get their in a tight stop but 35 bucks for a beta seems kind of steep

[trail sigil]

likely will have to buy it again. seen a lot of steam ports and its very common to have to. but if you like the game support it i always say

[trail sigil]

a beta of one of the greatest dungeon crawlers and greatest medievil fighters ever made.

[digital monolith]

soo when i enter the game my character model doesn't appear i can't swap any skills/abilities

[trail sigil]

restart?

[digital monolith]

yes twice now...

[meager nacelle]

the collab with chaf just seems rushed and for the price they want you to pay it seems disingenuous

[trail sigil]

might be a texture issue. try changing your graphic settings and reverting

[cedar crest]

anyone know how to fix the CDO constructor error? i downloaded and redownload the game and i still get it

[leaden turret]

man what are u talking about?

[meager nacelle]

just a lot of people having issues with chaf

[trail sigil]

it happens. huge amount of people for a smaller company.

[nocturne chasm]

So i sent a submission ticket to the wrong launcher. The ticket was abount refunding the game. I sent one to the blacksmith launcher when I was supposed to send one to the chaf games one. Does anyone know how to undo this?

[leaden turret]

most games that are like this are around 30 bucks. yea thats why i bought on dnd since ive never heard of chaf

[trail sigil]

just make a ticket in the correct launcher