q-and-a

[slow topaz]

you die you get nothing back. that loot is gone gone

[obsidian sun]

Does the devs have plans for Auction house ? or are you forced to trade like diablo 2 haha

cause that shit is time consuming

[slow topaz]

the devs are going to make the trade chats cleaner. only allowing items that are relevant to the chat to be sold in the chat. maybe there will be an auction house. i'd put that in the suggestions chat if you want the devs to have a better chance of seeing it

[dusk gate]

I like the oldschool system of trading, but it could be polished a bit forsure

[obsidian sun]

Yea some ppl like it some ppl hate it

but for sure u can agree with me that its way more time consuming than an auctio nhouse

[serene nebula]

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[dusk gate]

Auction house would be dope, but idk how they would implement it with so many different items with different skill rolls, feels like that would be more annoying to sort stuff out via stats and try to find the right item, ofc if they do it right no complains at all then :p

[obsidian sun]

its easy, diablo 3 did it and it worked flawlessly

[dusk gate]

It takes me like max 5-10 minutes to sell my stash / buy items with the system they have now, also auction house just screams more bots and rwt

[obsidian sun]

u cant escape bots / cheaters

Path of exiles have the same system as dnd

and bots still exists

to sell items etc

[dusk gate]

Welcome to 2023, in 2030 there is no real players anymore, just bots beeping and booping

[obsidian sun]

but i agree its easier to make a bot when auction house exists. but it is also easier for new players to not get robbed

[dusk gate]

Cant even imagine how much of an nightmare it is to actually try and solve botting / rwt issues in a game, thank god im not a dev

[obsidian sun]

i dont mind rwt. put the resources to tackle cheaters instead of rwt

imo

[dusk gate]

rwt is the one that brings the botting tho

why would you bot if there is nothing to gain from it

[obsidian sun]

ppl cheat for personal gain as well

[dusk gate]

mm yeah but those are mostly just kids who buy some script online vs guy actually running a 100+ bot farm

[glossy peak]

I've heard on rogue rupture works on throwing knives, anyone know if weak point also does?

[dusk gate]

Good question, sadly 0 idea, i did do those rupture throwing knives myself, but did not test out weak point, good call tho 😄

[slow topaz]

it do

[glossy peak]

dope ty

another question, do the throwing knives apply the poison passive? assuming that's a yes as well

[slow topaz]

poison weapon works on them as well

lol

[glossy peak]

❤️

[dusk gate]

yeah poison works

[slow topaz]

same thought

[glossy peak]

poison throwing knife true magic damage build sounds kinda lit

[dusk gate]

true magic dmg does not scale with poisons anymore, sadly

[glossy peak]

oh fr wtf?

[dusk gate]

that was like 2 playtest ago

last playtest it did not work atleast

[glossy peak]

probably balanced that way

[dusk gate]

Probably, would be scary seeing a rogue with like +30 true magic dmg hitting you 2 times with throwing knife and seeing you go like 10% hp from 100% 😄

[glossy peak]

Wait so does True Physical still work on throwing knives or nah?

Sorry asking a lot of questions, if they talked about it anywhere i'll go read/watch that

[dusk gate]

Hmm, i mean i dont see why it would not work honestly, did not test it out myself but yeh

[glossy peak]

cheers 🤝

[final shore]

i watched a tutorial and they said that you can level up once per dungeon and that any surplus exp is a waste, is that true?

[polar yoke]

don't think so

[dusk gate]

Pretty sure i got multiple levels from 1 dungeon, like going straight from 1 to 4

[simple rover]

Pretty sure I gained multiple levels on some low lvl characters on a successful escape last playtest

[final shore]

ok ty

[crimson trout]

no, also xp was only based on your kills, that is, last hits on monsters

[grim furnace]

No, xp was based on kills/monsters killed/chests/extract

[lilac drum]

Will there be any advance notice of elements that will be added in the next playtest?

[polar yoke]

usually the night before

[fathom crow]

Didnt healing/buffing as cleric also give xp last playtest?

[crimson trout]

not at all

[fathom crow]

Oh, i thought they talked about cleric leveling way slower than other classes and discussed that as a fix.

[crimson trout]

but I could be wrong, but only significant thing was for monster and player kills from what I've noticed (played all classes to lvl 20)
Someone can prove it if they only did that particular thing and tracked their xp intra levels between raids

[river sparrow]

Does progress remain or gets wiped between fifferent test phases?

[stark summit]

id assume it gets wiped each playtest, because they have been having the leaderboards per playtest

[river sparrow]

Oh, ok. It changes nothing, just was curious 🙂

[lilac drum]

Has this question already been asked?

[grim furnace]

Probably the new floor and the new boss!

[lilac drum]

Thanks for letting me know!

[grim furnace]

But tomorrow an interview done by Onepeg will be out, so many questions will have answers @lilac drum

(if u need a link to his ytb channel just ask)

[lilac drum]

I'm even more excited to hear that...

[grim furnace]

[lilac drum]

😆

[echo ridge]

Bro i want druid, i know its not coming this pt but i really want it

[grim furnace]

It will one day dw

[fast stone]

Have they said they are adding more classes?

[grim furnace]

Not for this playtest but yes, bard is the next class for example. And if I'm correct they try to add D&D classes

[echo ridge]

Bard is coming next and druid was basically confirmed in a screenshot

[river sparrow]

There was also art of druid ingame, so yeah, wr are waiting for more classes

[obsidian sun]

what does the green bar mean in suggestions?

left to the suggestion

some have a green bar, does that mean that the devs will implement it or is it a certain % upvote

Dont have permission to send a screenshot for reference

[river sparrow]

% of upvote

But some of the posts are bugged...

[jade lake]

that's wrong

green bar appears when you have +15 on the post

[river sparrow]

Oh. Sry for the wrong info

[river sparrow]

Have there been any mentions of other playable races?

[grim furnace]

Ye but i forgot where

[river sparrow]

Cool

[torpid canyon]

does anyone have any idea how the cleric ressurection actually works? I've tried using it like 4 times last playtest and they all failed

[quartz bear]

Technically they were testing new races this last playtest by letting people be skeletons.

[rugged axle]

You cant take their soul, leave it on them and res

[jagged viper]

So when you go to use resurrection and you don't meet the requirement of knowledge to use the spells you will see that when you open your spell book it will be greyed out, thats because you have to many spell inside of your spell book, to get around this you will need to stack a huge amount of knowledge to be able to use it with a full rotation of spells or just remove some spells from the book at the beginning of the game in lobby. I believe if you want it to work right away with white gear you need to remove everything besides lessor heal, blessed and res in order to get resurrection to be used right away.

[alpine ridge]

I think skeletons where more a testing of cosmetics not races.

[alpine ridge]

I don't think true physical works like you think.

Someone told me is not extra damage, just converts from normal damage to true physical, in this case up to 30.

If a knife does 20 damage normally i think your fancy knife would just end up doing 0 normal
damage and 20 true physical.

Edit: Just noticed you said +30 true magic and where talking about some older poison mechanic, i doubt they where taking full advantage of +30 true at the time by this logic.

[desert smelt]

iirc true damage is simply added on after all other calculations

it's not a conversion from your normal damage

but it's also unaffected by armor, headshot, etc.

[ivory shell]

Is it set in stone that daggers won't be allowed to break barrels? seems like rogue's having the worst starting gear, lowest health and then not even letting them get any gear or healing items from crates kind of unfair when every other class can?

[slow topaz]

rogues have really quick interaction speed. so you can usually get to chest and body loot first. its a trade off

[slow topaz]

ive personally never had a problem getting loot as a rogue. you can still break pots and loot shelves.

[sharp nacelle]

Bring a pickaxe. It can break barrels. I was doing this as a rogue

[ivory shell]

That's good too thank you

Tip

[marble rune]

how long will the game test be on?

[ivory jacinth]

a week

[ripe forge]

How are my little Brussel sprouts doing today.

[jovial kernel]

I thought bard was coming this playtest? Am I wrong about that?

[slow topaz]

Its not confirmed. some people seem to think it is for some reason. no idea why

[burnt badger]

How long have the past play tests been?

[grim furnace]

1week +3d i think?

[twilit umbra]

Soon™️

[slow topaz]

The past playtests were all scheduled for one week but because so many people are playing the game they had server issues so the devs were nice enough to extend it (even over the christmas holiday which was really nice of them)

[versed river]

Yeah thats really nice of them

[untold drift]

Guys do you know molotov and oil lantern do magic dmg?

[slow topaz]

I dont think they do. would be weird.

[untold drift]

So its physic damage? We have only two types of damage rn

I just wonder about scaling of damage on throweable fire weapons

[peak maple]

I'd imagine it scales either with rarity or its flat

[slow topaz]

^

[azure veldt]

I'd imagine its magic damage, since fire based spells are magic damage. I dont think armor would give reduction unless it has +magic resist

[untold drift]

That is the point. Cuz i've seen some vids with cleric who provides great dmg by this things. Based on good Will probably. I hope they will add some sort of dummy training for check it for sure. Or will find some guy who tested in pre game lobby

[slow topaz]

Thats actually a good idea. could be an even better way for clerics to get damage on bosses while still healing the team than I thought

[versed river]

@timber mist will Know and Resc be implemented this playtest or is that only in beta?

[untold drift]

wdym? What is difference between know and knowledge?

[versed river]

according to the guide on steam https://www.ironmace.com/gameguide it has not been implemented

meaning that those stats mean nothing in game

[versed river]

its the same thing

[rancid bridge]

that link isn't updated. Knowledge makes you cast spells faster and is the best wiz stat. Pretty sure resourcefulness only grants interaction speed right now and is a WiP. (everything is a WiP I guess).

[versed river]

ahh ookay thanks

[teal charm]

hey. maybe this question comes a bit late, but. in the last playtest i've noticed that when you sit in the lobby as a wizard and play around with your spells, you lose your charges. is that allready adressed as a bug or is it a feature?

[slow topaz]

thats true for all classes. I am not sure if its an intended design but any ability or consumable used in the lobby will be used up when you enter the dungeon

this is true for arrows in a quiver. all spells, any ability with limited uses ex. the fighters second wind

[teal charm]

well. i could understand that for normal consumables like potions and stuff... but spells?

[slow topaz]

🤷‍♂️

as wizard you can always meditate them back. it hurts more for cleric who can only get them back through campfires

ive seen so many fighters hit their second wind ability in the lobby as well funny shit

[teal charm]

it hurts more to watch that it is funny. idk... maybe this "feature" is unintendet

guess we'll see in the next playtest if its still there

[slow topaz]

well when its not your team its funny 😂

[magic cedar]

the fire is the same damage as fireball, zap, and ignite.

[sand radish]

Yeah I hope they let you cast spells in lobby too lol. Would be funny

[red tendon]

I have a question, when I activate a bear trap can I step in it myself?

[weary jackal]

Yes

But there’s a 90% chance your teammate will do that for you

[red tendon]

lmao, thanks

[grand peak]

hahahaha

[thorny sundial]

My question is why do you have stat changes to skins? It's a very slippery slope cause now every skin should have stats and now stuff like orcs and elves will of course be better on different classes. Keep it all the same, remove stat changes to skins

[slow topaz]

it was done last playtest as actually a nerf to the skeleton skin because the devs knew people would use it for the element of surprise. also if you mean racial traits for elves and orcs and such thats not in the game yet but I fail to see how it is a slippery slope as those will be something that you pick like your class.

everyone will have equal opportunity to make the most "specialized" build if they want. but it still allows player to have fun with the looks of their characters. you can also make multiple characters so if you want to do a meta build you can and still be able to make something just for fun.

[thorny sundial]

Well if they continue to "nerf" cosmetics thats a slippery slope, you'd literally never see that in any other game and say it's acceptable cause it isn't

[slow topaz]

that was only for the skeleton. which was just a test for the playtest

[thorny sundial]

And we shall see how they treat cosmetics in this upcoming one I truly hope they are baseline nothing

[slow topaz]

mans asking the real questions

[thorny sundial]

What do you mean?? I get railed every time I load in 🤣🤣

[warped ivy]

username checks out

[slow topaz]

Rip a fellow man of culture. He was silenced.
O7

[tulip coral]

sorry

[thick jetty]

can you block magic missile and fireball with a sword/spear?

[trail cove]

no

magic missle yes

[orchid plinth]

How get beta access?

[grim furnace]

Everyone has access to the playtest check #📢announcements for more informations

[rugged axle]

I doubt parry works on magic but it works on arrows sooooo….maybe?

[thick jetty]

thanks, I'll have to test it out during the festival then haha

[stuck lichen]

Also, considering Fireball has a fairly decent radius explosion, even if it could be parried, you would still take massive damage.

Not super experienced myself with it, but that's just my immediate thought. Magic Missile doesn't have the radius explosion, so that is a possibility. Looking forward to see if it can be done!

[untold drift]

Possibility for what? For add some explosive of magic missile to allow them break thought shield? Its gonna be OP

[untold drift]

Just read patch notes to remember changed things, and found this

Skeleton Race : Undead tag has been removed.

So its mean "skeleton race" isnt undead now? Cleric counter undead spell should not work?

[visual river]

It's probably the character skin you can acquire

[untold drift]

Oh, thx god if it's true. I just was afraid it is huge cleric nerf

[dusk gate]

My missiles been blocked by a fighters shield forsure last playtest, fireball no, cant block something that burns you to a crisp 😄

[thick jetty]

hmm thank you!
i do know that you can block magic missiles and fireballs (but the AOE from fireball will still damage you) with a shield but i was wondering if you could do the same with a weapon such as a longsword or spear

[dusk gate]

Hmm, doubt parry would work against any type of magic, atleast would make sense it would not, cant remember if i had any encounters where someone actually tried to parry my magic casts

[untold drift]

Hitbox of melee weapon significantly small, there is no chance to block projectiles, but technically why not

[grim furnace]

Anyone know if every class has the same hurtbox?

[obsidian sun]

is dark and darker cpu or gpu intensive?

[modest breach]

Do I have to install Dark and darker again during the playtest if I already have it installed?

[rancid bridge]

irc yes

[grim furnace]

Yes cause it’s not the same build

[untold drift]

Guys, which modifier works to headshot? Headshots provides more damage, but how much exactly? Like 1.5x of regular dmg?

[past birch]

i think its double

like, my 38dmg recurve was doing 70 something on the dummy

[lapis orchid]

headshot is 1.5

[pliant cloud]

More GPU intensive

[obsidian sun]

thank god 😍

[past birch]

the interview tonight will be at midnight, dont know if i will be able to watch it live

[river swift]

I'm new and want know how to get permission to playing in playsets

[lapis orchid]

just download it from steam once its online 🙂

[river swift]

i can only add this game to wish list

[prime venture]

#📢announcements it will be available at 6th february, you can find more in the announcement tab to find the exact times

[river swift]

alright, big thanks to You

[past birch]

so many new players

[velvet shoal]

will it have preloading

[prime venture]

according to the developer, there is no way unfortunately
but they plan to release it a bit early before the official start of the steam's nextfest

[quick reef]

Could the devs please submit their game to the Multimedia Games Site, so streamers could stream the game on other platformers when the playtest comes out?

[versed river]

can we get a chest tier list please?

[peak maple]

Mimics= F tier
All other chests = S tier

[versed river]

great thanks

[pale stratus]

What’s the deal with that cave troll?
The background in that pic doesn’t look like the normal 2nd floor dungeon from the other playtests

[zenith ivy]

"cave" troll

so the new floor is going to be a cave

[versed river]

supposedly we're getting to play on b1 this alpha but we'll know more by tonight's interview with the devs

[pale stratus]

That’s exciting, new floor, hopefully some new mobs other than the troll

[worn verge]

Is there / will there ever be proximity chat?

[desert igloo]

It's something the devs are looking into

[versed river]

does leaving the boss room reset health?

[grim furnace]

Yes @versed river

[versed river]

dang

[weak lily]

Yesterday one of my buddies told me that this upcoming playtest is the last playtest before release, but i can’t find anything that says that. Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?

[slow topaz]

this will be the last playtest. April will have an early access. the game will be released in a more polished state in quarter 4 of this year

[weak lily]

Awesome! Thank you

Not that i don’t believe you, but do you know where that was announced at?

[slow topaz]

Let me go look.

[slow topaz]

sdf — 11/05/2022 8:03 AM
"Currently, there is an early access plan in April 2023."

this is from sdf who is one of the devs of the game^

[weak lily]

Thank you thank you, was just about to type that i found it. Appreciate it. Not sure how i missed that looking for it last night

[slow topaz]

it was in general chat. there is a lot that gets lost in there lol

[jade horizon]

does interaction speed govern campfire placement and bandage (surgical kit, potion...) usage time?

[slow topaz]

Interaction speed is for doors, levers and chests. action speed is what bandages, campfires, and pulling out your weapon uses. I think this would cover potions but those might fall under magical interaction so I'm not sure 100%

[jade horizon]

ok

[slow topaz]

You can look at all the stats using this link if you would like
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats

[jade horizon]

yeah im stupid didn't read it correctly

[zinc kettle]

Are we going to be able to pre load the demo on the 5th?

[slow topaz]

Not sure. the devs did say they were going to let people begin the download before the next fest started but didnt say how long before that point the demo would be available

[worn verge]

That’s awesome to hear. Thanks!

[split path]

best b-day gift ever!

[slow topaz]

ikr

[hollow wraith]

April/May, so if it doesn't come April don't be too surprised. This was recently said, so obviously all plans are subject to change

[slow topaz]

ah. thanks for the updated info! that helps a lot

[hollow wraith]

No problem

[stone zinc]

Has or will game become optimized for lower system requirements?

My videocard was 1 step below the min req so steam wouldn't let me even try it.

[drowsy mulch]

Was there an interview today ?

[rugged axle]

9pm est!

[drowsy mulch]

thanks where can i watch ?

[rugged axle]

#the-tavern message

[drowsy mulch]

is it a youtube livestream ?

[visual river]

interview w/ onepeg

[drowsy mulch]

i know that but is it a livestream yes / no ?

[visual river]

idk, the other videos he did were video format

[prime venture]

yes livestream

on twitch first, for what Onepeg said

[grim furnace]

We don't know

[forest gate]

Does the interview from the dev happened? any recap?

[drowsy mulch]

can you link twitch please ?

[visual river]

about under 10 gb for sure, I know it was less then tarkov

oh just checked it's 9.23 gb

[foggy oriole]

Is the game going to free to play?

[slow topaz]

No. the playtests are free to play. But early access in April will cost money, likely at a discounted price from the final price during full release in quarter four of this year.

Onepeg

on twitch

[prime venture]

👍

i think in about 5 hrs 🤔

[grim furnace]

yep

4*

[prime venture]

[errant perch]

so when is dark and darker getting taken away from us

[slow topaz]

playtest will probably end on the 13th as that is the end of the steam next fest

[errant perch]

GOD DAMNIT

[slow topaz]

but it will be back as a paid early access in april or may

[errant perch]

ooh

like 20 dollars or what

[slow topaz]

somewhere around there most likely yes

[errant perch]

and is that like 1 week or is that like permanent early access

and are we gonna have to pay again???

[slow topaz]

not sure. may be permanent. I doubt that the devs will make those who bought the early access pay again at full release.

[errant perch]

ok

[timber palm]

Its probably posted somewhere but I can't seem to find it, when is the next open alpha, and how to I apply to get in?

[tacit hazel]

it is quite literally the most recent post in #📢announcements

[astral apex]

did the skeleton skins give a debuff?

[visual river]

10 magic resist, -20 armor i think

[astral apex]

it gives magic res? lowers armor?

[drifting whale]

I got the skeleton skin as a fighter and didn't know about the debuffs for a whole day

[untold drift]

Yes, it was this way. But devs said this kind of skins with current stats won't be again on nezt test

[idle cedar]

Is there somewhere to download the game before the play test

[visual river]

you can try do the steam install trick but idk, it's only 10 gb not that long to download. it probably doesnt even work since it's an update they need to push out.

[slow topaz]

You have to wait. Though the devs did say that downloads will be available before the steam next fest begins. How long before we do not know yet. That might be information we get from the dev interview tonight or from the #📢announcements channel in the future.

[prime venture]

#the-tavern message
I think it may be 6hrs before the official start of the steam's nextfest apparently

[slow topaz]

🙏 Thank you for braving the chaos of general chat to bring us this information

[sacred cliff]

question are we gonna keep our progress or is it reset every play test???

[prime venture]

Yes but basically it is included in the announcement tab already, ops 😄
the times in the announcement tab are actually the final ones

cause steam's nextfest starts at 10PM Pacific time and they calculated the -6hrs before

[slow topaz]

resets every time

[sacred cliff]

aw

[prime venture]

progress wiped

[versed river]

starts @ 11 pm for me with the 6 hour bonus

\

[swift frigate]

I’m gonna be getting on at 2am 🫡

[idle cedar]

What is the 6 hour bonus

[swift frigate]

The start times are all scheduled for 6 hours before the next fest. im assuming

[gentle grove]

Will there ever be proximity chat?

[waxen bane]

Can we get a list of the questions asked and answers

[slow topaz]

I'm sure someone will do that once it is all over. you could also check the vod as well if you miss the live stream.

[slow topaz]

the devs plan for it yes

[pliant crown]

check the pins in the General chat

[wispy imp]

does anyone have a tldr for the live stream that just ended? confirmed things coming in the play test?

[slow topaz]

it will take time. i doubt it

[pliant crown]

I just told you. It's in the Pins in the General Chat of this discord

someone already did a summary

[slow topaz]

god damn.. they fast

[slow topaz]

nvm its pinned in general

[exotic siren]

주식 상장 계획있나요?

[slow topaz]

공개적으로 거래되는 회사를 의미합니까? (사용한 구글 번역기)

I used google translate. hope it worked

I really hope someone who knows Korean can answer this persons questions

[exotic siren]

Do you have any plans to go public on NASDAQ? I think this company is going to be big. Like Pearl Abyss.

[upper slate]

I hope the devs dont listen to the solo que crying for when they start complaining their class isn't good enough for solo que. It's a TEAM based game. Your class isn't meant to solo period. You have strengths and weaknesses you have to play too in this game. Solo que is just going to be a pile of bodies in one area of ppl 3rd partying other solos

[slow topaz]

are we allowed to ping wardens? I want someone who can speak Korean to help this guy.

[exotic siren]

This is not an important question, thank you for your concern.

[azure vector]

is there a looking for group channel in english? there is one in my native language ( french ) but I can't find a channel to post my announce in english for the next playtest, thx

[upper tree]

I think they removed it and will re-add it for the next playtest

[ionic glen]

will the game still remain a 3 man party?

[rancid bridge]

the 3 man dungeons still exist. for this test at least they are also adding a new dungeon that you can only go into solo. @ionic glen

[ionic glen]

sorry my phrasing was wrong..is there a chance for a 4-man party instead of the 3-man party?

[rancid bridge]

not this test no

[thorn dagger]

Not sure they're gonna go with 4 man since all their promo art is of 3 mans lol

[desert smelt]

a lot of loading screens have 4 people

[thorn dagger]

clearly a teaming random

[desert smelt]

inb4 next patch they stalin out the 4th person

[thorn dagger]

More target for Chain Lightning

[ionic glen]

yeah i dont expect it to be there since the hallways are kinda cramped with even 3..but it doesnt hurt to ask

[thorn dagger]

Soloids would probably also lose their shit if they had to fight 4 mans lol

[ionic glen]

That's why u don't go into dungeons alone...unless u sneak around

my solo exp is not to fight just hide and loot

[crimson hollow]

Just to answer your question, yes you can ping Wardens, thats why we are here 😉

[maiden sentinel]

so after watching the Twitch update I asked if the escape portals going to stay the same like the last playtest or will they be updated to more or less in the next playtest?

so then expect escape portals in B3 to spawn in the Big Boss again?

or in B2 with the Skeleton Champion and the Mage.

too bad they never went over the Portal Placement

[river sparrow]

Any breaking news from the q&a session?

[maiden sentinel]

another question I wanted to ask is about the Hitbox Detection because I been hit through Solid Doors by Skeletons because of Bad Detection was Nailed by a Skeleton.

[lethal musk]

how many days will the beta test last

[gleaming moat]

Is there VOIP in the upcoming playtest?

[coral turret]

yes

[gleaming moat]

Ty

[coral ridge]

Do I need to reinstall the game? previous game is still downloaded in my pc

[grim furnace]

Yes

[coral ridge]

sad

[ebon furnace]

didany of the classes get buffed or nerfed?

[coral turret]

sorcerer confirmed

[river sparrow]

Ohhh, sweeet. Ty'

[tacit granite]

I just watched it, so here's a summary for those who don't have an hour.

• Wizards will get a change (not nerf) as they are too much like Sorcerers (which was confirmed future class), probably a shift of Will points into Knowledge

• Clerics will get +1 Agility

• Better loot in High Roller, especially boss loot

• Separate solo dungeon with Troll Boss (max loot level Purple Epics). Very experimental, meaning they will be looking at the number of people who use this closely to see if they keep solo dungeons or not.

• VOIP coming this playtest, get your soundboards ready.

• In game party finder and karma system (for team killers). Will be able to inspect potential party member's equipment. People who kill their team mates too frequently will get a red name in the party finder. Though they specifically said team killing is an acceptable action in DaD, so you will never be banned for that.

• Crafting costs have been reduced (possibly halved) to make it easier to actually get equipment from that.

• Everything else was talking about future content and what's not going to be in this playtest. They have a small development team so a lot of their ambitions for the game have to be tempered with what they can actually do in a timely manner.

• Early Access is likely to be late April, early May

Someone else's summary:
#the-tavern message

[vague badger]

@tacit granite
Thanks for the recap.
Concerning your last point, what was mentioned about future content?

[tacit granite]

Biggest thing was confirming a Karma system. Players with too frequent team kills will get a Red Name or something.

[vague badger]

Will there be an orange name for team damage?
Will the red name be visible in the lobby?

Can Rogues still pickpocket his teammates?

[tacit granite]

Wasn't mentioned
I assume so, but they didn't specifically say that
Wasn't mentioned

[tacit granite]

@vague badger actually my bad. Karma system is coming this PT with the in-game party finder. I must've not been paying attention

[rugged mason]

Hello, can anyone type here, what was said on the dev stream?

[visual river]

probably. it's just a matter of not getting caught lol

[visual river]

click on #the-tavern and click on the pin button, it should be the first ones

[tacit granite]

#q-and-a message

[rugged mason]

Thank you!

[drowsy pollen]

when does dark and darker release to steam?

[jade horizon]

does the magic damage from divine strike and smite on cleric benefit from headshots?

[desert smelt]

it should theoretically but no way to double check right now

[desert igloo]

The damage added isn't increased on headshots, same for ignite as well

[desert igloo]

Next playtest is Feb 6th 4 am PST, Early access is planned for late April/ early May, full release is planned for Q4 2023

[jade horizon]

do they both benefit from magic power bonus (so with clerics starting at 30 will that's +40 Magic power bouns) would smite (or divine strike) add 14 damage to each attack?

[desert igloo]

I dont know the exact values but yes smite gains the magic power bonus as well as +flat magic damage (not divine strike)

[vernal galleon]

Are the devs looking for programmers bychance?

[loud pier]

I really hope they scrap solo… feels like it takes away from the game also opens up a lot of avenues for cheating/exploiting

[desert smelt]

solo play in its entirety? or just the solo dungeon

[loud pier]

Entirety

[desert smelt]

there's no good reason for that and it'd be a massively unpopular change

solo play has its own ups and downs and solo oriented players hate being queued with randoms

[loud pier]

The above reasons seem like good reasons- it makes cheating/exploiting far harder to detect and undermines the current loot /progression system, even if maxed out at epic

[desert smelt]

let me counter those reasons specifically then

[loud pier]

…Did you have that pretyped out? LOL

[slow topaz]

As someone who plays solo and with a consistant 3 man I agree. Solo is viable, also the current solo que is not the final decision. It is a test to see how thing should be handled.

[desert smelt]

"feels like it takes away from the game" is a personal feeling. just because you personally don't like it doesn't mean it lacks merit, and you'll need something more concrete than "it feels bad to me"

as for cheating, it'll do absolutely nothing to counter cheaters
cheaters will just queue with randoms and continue to cheat, and likely teamkill and ruin their teammates' experience

[loud pier]

One of the largest issues is it’s effect on ingame economy- it often creates abundances of resources as in similar games it’s far easier to obtain BiS

[desert smelt]

considering how difficult it is to solo the bosses and actually get BiS as a solo

I don't see that being relevant to solo

[loud pier]

Not true when looking at pretty much every other online game, unfortunately. Solo playlists tend to have far* higher rates. This is evident in everything from PoE, to shooters, to RPGs

Tarkov is another example, but that’s harder to compare

[desert smelt]

I mean the endgame content in this game so far is balanced around party play and doesn't scale based on party size

[slow topaz]

Well seeing as the playtest will only be for one week and then everything wipes I don't see the problem. Again. Things will be constantly subject to change. As well as the fact that fewer inventories will be extracting from solo only lobbies due to the lower chances of survival against ai and the most likely lower number of portals.

[desert smelt]

so if a solo succeeds somehow they should be rewarded, assuming they never scale the content for solos

[slow topaz]

The devs said that enemies would not be scaled down in the solo only que

[desert smelt]

there's also not a solo only queue

just a solo dungeon

which isn't quite the same thing and actually has potential to be MORE difficult if they decide to make it a challenge dungeon of sorts

though right now it seems they're taking the "it's solo only and gives worse rewards so it's not exploitable"

[loud pier]

Which is a bit wild, because itemization and stacking specific stats right now is king, not necessarily loot quality (although this will hopefully change) Interested to see how they combat the influx of loot and things like real money / trading down the line. By nature, things like the reporting system and loot deviation are stronger and more easily addressed by only having one queue

[desert smelt]

I will say that solo play has little bearing on the economy, or at least not so drastic that it should be removed lmao

party play is more successful and leads to more gold entering the market per run

[loud pier]

Having a solo queue has a huge effect on every games economy.

[desert smelt]

more survival, high tier items staying in circulation longer due to teammates picking it up off of your body, etc

[loud pier]

No no

[slow topaz]

Sorry. Meant solo dungeon lol. My bad😅

[loud pier]

Thats assuming fair play, and it’s never fair play when you will* have gold farmers and people abusing mechanics and queues. Solo makes these things accessible

[desert smelt]

a party of 3 has the same space to carry items as 3 solos, but also has the coordination to save certain items for each other, and the combined power to kill bosses and get the most expensive items

[loud pier]

^

[desert smelt]

if people really cared about gold farming they'd do it in parties

[loud pier]

I don’t think we’re going to agree on this part unfortunately

[desert smelt]

clearly not

[loud pier]

I think a solo queue would be fun, but would inevitability be detrimental and take away from fair players over time

[desert smelt]

I don't see how this is a problem that should result in the removal of solo entirely

[slow topaz]

Agreed. Last wipe the best gold method I found was go in as a three man and two mine ruby silver while a third watches for incoming players

[desert smelt]

like even in PoE, party play is optimal for farming

[loud pier]

Assuming fair play

[desert smelt]

not even

people bring rarity culling bots

[loud pier]

Oh jeez.

[desert smelt]

aurabots

etc

there's more room for exploiting mechanics when you have more than one player

[loud pier]

If that’s the case, perhaps they should make them separate queues or instances

[loud pier]

Detection is the largest issue, particularly when real money trading always becomes rampant in a game like this, imagine the current trading system with bots/farmers

[desert smelt]

you're also looking at this from the perspective of an MMO, where economy is super important

this might not go down this road, the game isn't finished yet

if the final product DOES have economy problems, and somehow solo queue is a major contributor to the problems

then we can cross that bridge and figure out balancing for solos and whatnot

[oak ore]

Bro, I am so lucking forward to killing someone and looting their item they paid real money for off an rmtr.
Cant buy skill, and this is a full loot game, people are going to be sadly mistaken lol

[desert smelt]

but right now it's nowhere near that point

right now it's an experimental, unfinished RNGfest

removing solo queue now because you personally think it might be a problem in some theoretical future economy is... overly proactive, I guess

[tawdry moon]

Does anyone know how hit timing works on different weapons in D&D? I have been searching for any info people have put together on what weapon timing looks like and was wondering if anyone has some insight into that. Especially across weapons of the same class.

[slow topaz]

Lmao imagine. Bro pays $50 bucks for a legendary but still die to spikes in the maze🤣

[loud pier]

Or .15

[desert smelt]

timing as in swing speed/startup?

[tawdry moon]

Yeah basically.

[desert smelt]

afaik there's no exact numbers recorded

but I DO know that agility affects it

[slow topaz]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Weapons

[desert smelt]

a wizard swings daggers slower than rogues because wizard has less "action speed"

[slow topaz]

The exact numbers are on the wiki link I dropped above

[desert smelt]

what action speed was used to measure them?

or was it datamined

[tawdry moon]

@slow topaz Thats what I was looking for. Just for clarity though, is that time to swing startup or time to swing centre? Since there could be some big differences there.

[slow topaz]

I believe that is time each attack animation takes.

[slow topaz]

Datamined

The people who did this are honestly great. The full wiki has almost all the info you will ever need on the game. Including interactive maps with loot and ai spawn locations

[sterile drift]

is there gonna be new classes/maps with the upcomming test?

[burnt halo]

theres a solo map, no new classes though

unsure about extra 3-person maps for the rotation

[slow topaz]

Probably no new 3 person maps. Didn't hear anything about that during the qna

[chilly tapir]

Will there be Patchnotes to see the diffrences to the playtest before?

[slow topaz]

Yes. I personally look here for patchnotes. The ones for the upcoming playtest are not out yet though.
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Patch_Notes

[honest wolf]

sorry if this has already been asked but will we be able to pre-install the beta before the test opens, if so how soon

[thin totem]

Feb 6th ~4am pst goto steam to "download demo"

[fossil barn]

Hey, i was just wondering if you guys have any psychologists as part of the team at IRONMACE

[jagged quail]

i think i am going to take off next monday

[shell slate]

where is the english lfg in this server? since there is ones for other languages

[light stump]

Does anyone have a list compiled of new features in the upcoming play test?

[slow topaz]

Pinned message in general chat

[desert igloo]

Keep an eye out in the discord, the patch notes usually come right before the playtest starts, or you can check out this video which is all the information we have about it so far #dnd-content message

[light stump]

Thanks

[blazing forge]

They have mentioned bard class but i dont believe it will come this playtest

[supple perch]

The Q&A on twitch they mention fewer large changes between last playtest and this one due to the short time between them and lunar new year stuff etc...

[stone jewel]

With the voice coms update, is there gonna be a quick and easy way to report bad actors and get them removed if they are using the voip to harass people n that sorta thing?

[ember gate]

How do you think Twitch as a platform has affected Dark and Darker?

[slow topaz]

There is a button to mute the voip. Not sure about reporting though.

[rancid bridge]

It has given the game a massive amount of free exposure that has expanded the playerbase and is probably a big benefit from a company perspective. The only real problem is when devs listen too much to streamers, particularly variety/drama streamers who are only going to play the game a bit anyway and are frankly, whiney gamers.

[slow topaz]

Its brought a lot of the community to the game and has helped grow a lot of smaller channels. But I don't think that the games development has been effected by those who stream the game. The dev team seems to be sticking with their original ideas pretty well

[slow topaz]

I agree. But I think so far the devs have been doing a good job sticking to their original plans and won't be easily swayed by outside entities

[ember gate]

Do you think it's changed how some players approach the game?

[rancid bridge]

It obviously does. If people come to the game from watching their favorite streamer there are going to be a lot of people whose opinion is heavily influenced by that streamer.

[slow topaz]

Agree with DatPun on this. Even peoples playstyles are influenced by streamers. I don't think its a truly bad thing. As the more people play the more they will develop their own best suited play style even if they originally copied a streamer

As long as the streamers don't do anything drastic like weaponize their community against the devs and the devs don't let the streamers decide on game related decisions (which I don't think the devs will do)

[rancid bridge]

I don't want to overstate it because I love this game, have faith in the dev team, and am super looking forward to this coming playtest. They could screw this game up five ways and it would probably still be my favorite game at the moment. But I do think if you look at the focus of dev time on a solo dungeon between last test and this one, and at them adding a bunch of blue portals after people complained in the middle of last test, that you can see community outcry does impact what they're up to. This isn't all bad though, Dev's listening to the community can be positive too.

[ember gate]

To be fair, those decisions could easily be data-driven as well.

Perhaps solo players weren't escaping as much as they'd like, for instance

[slow topaz]

Oh I absolutely agree. When it comes to things like portal count I do think the public opinion should matter. Its when it comes to things like what class gets how much power and ability that it should be left to the devs.

[ember gate]

Would you say streamers themselves play the game differently from normal people?

[slow topaz]

Definitely not. As a part time solo it was 1000% easier to get out as a 3 man or even a duo. Not to say that is the worst. Teamwork and cooperation should be rewarded. And a skilled solo who plays smart can be an absolute nightmare to a 3 man.

[slow topaz]

Depends on the streamers goal. A lot of the time streamers do one of two things. Kill hunting/leaderboard climbing. Or go for entertainment value by having a more non traditional strategy going into the game, for instance running 3 of a class in a party or making a joke build.

Some streamers play pretty similar to most of the player population so I fell like the current balance of how streamers play is definitely a positive thing for the game. It allows for those who are competitive and those who just want to fool around to have people to take inspiration from

[rancid bridge]

Some streamers definitely play differently. They get handouts from chat, do things for entertainment instead of kills etc.. Asmon claims something is broken every time he dies and makes his youtube face. Moonmoon needs to be able to poop ingame or his life is unfulfilled. Streamer things.

[slow topaz]

Lmao

Very true

Spudhunter has to "die" at least once per stream and place the skeleton prop in his chair

[ember gate]

Streamers can definitely be considered a sort of sub-division of players. Would you say it's almost like they're playing a different game sometimes?

[narrow kernel]

i'll be streaming most of my gameplay, unfortunately i wont be doing anything different than i normally would. taking risks that i shouldnt take to get them clip worthy moments.

getting 5 man feeds with 5 headshots with a longsword. nom nom nom

watching other people kill their team mates as they panic 😄

[weak moon]

Make it longer im gunna be away while the playtest is happening and im so mad

or ig how long is it

[lethal valley]

how lolng will next playtest last my guys

[rancid bridge]

probably 6th-13th. tho in the past they've extended 1-3 days extra

[lusty glade]

does anyone know if it will be on nvidia GeForce now?

[idle arch]

How do you plan to handle losing gear to cheaters in the official release since while it is unavoidable to have cheaters what is your plan of action to help salavge the after effects?

[signal furnace]

Is there a group finder tab?

[inner prism]

Will be on release

It’s currently hidden

[signal furnace]

I mean for this discord? Like how you find a group now for play test if your solo?

[meager burrow]

Will this playtest have the first level, or is it still going to be on the second and third levels?

[slow topaz]

The "looking for group" chats will probably be re-added before the playtest starts.

[slow topaz]

Second and third levels. But there is a new, solo only, single layer map that will be the home of the new troll boss

[calm osprey]

321

[gloomy plover]

is proximity chat coming in for the coming test?

[pliant cloud]

Voip should be available in this playtest

[gray crane]

I wonder how far the VOIP can be heard, because i'm already afraid of people using soundboard of footsteps making people think someone is nearby but it's a rogue invis soundboarding

[maiden sentinel]

Already Confirmed.

[maiden sentinel]

Oh thank you for the Idea and to answer your Question I'm so going to get Sounds >:D

[gray crane]

time to make everyone even more paranoid of invisible people

[raw nova]

you can download the sfx pack from ironmace's website

Download```
https://www.ironmace.com/

at the bottom of the page

[distant elm]

Is there new weapons confirmed?

[frosty pebble]

hey i'm not able to find dark and darker in my games library...has this happened to anyone else? it just seems to have disappeared :?

[lyric talon]

Aha! This aged well...

[slow topaz]

okay but that would be hella funny

[burnt badger]

I hope it's true VOIP where it's directional. Not like Warzone 2 where "Oh you're within 55m of a player here's their mic at full volume"

[slow topaz]

lmao yeah. it should be. wouldnt make sense for the game otherwise. gonna do some great trolling this wipe 😈

[gritty quail]

When will the playtest end

[gray crane]

no official ending announced yet

[burnt badger]

I'm also looking forward to trolling with VOIP. Not with like blasting music but talking while invis

[gritty quail]

I didn't even think about talking invisible, that's going to be hilarious@burnt badger

[gray crane]

but Playtest should be there for atleast 1 week

[slow topaz]

most likely a week after start

[burnt badger]

Paired with turning off the lights 😈

[gritty quail]

Gonna be spitting on people like hwack-to when I riddle them with arrows, or say let me axe you a question on barbarian before hacking them to bits. @burnt badger

[burnt badger]

Already preparing creepy haikus to whisper from the darkness

[fathom cedar]

is there gamepad support, i never checked before

[raw nova]

i think so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rert9NqIyOE

[rustic moon]

When is the next playtest?

[slow topaz]

in 4 days

[maiden sentinel]

@raw nova Thank you for answering my Question. Your a Saint

@raw nova Question Where is the Death Wav when the User Dies Sound. Its not there

[raw nova]

looks like it's missing a few

[maiden sentinel]

so I see. oh well time to go to the #dnd-content I go to find a Clip I guess and get the Sounds I need. thanks for anwersing

[raw nova]

np, good luck

[boreal pawn]

Does anyone know if they turned down the skeleton archer headshot accuracy this playtest?

[maiden sentinel]

From What I heard and Read in the New #dev-qna-archives It does not look like it.

Now Question I have is How Much is the Game Going to Cost and When can I Pre Order The Game...

[slow topaz]

No price has been set yet. Paid Early Access will be available in late April to early May

[slow topaz]

Its something they mentioned needed work after last playtest but no update as of yet. Might just have to wait and see in game

[wicked summit]

after today, 2 more days 😉

[boreal pawn]

Yeah, I remember hearing about it from the last playtest but I wasn't sure if they remembered to adjust it or not.

[hazy drift]

was there gonna be another playtest running after this one but before early access?

[magic cedar]

Yes

[magic cedar]

april/may

[hazy drift]

thats early acces they said, im asking about before that, like another weekend or week long test in march or something

[ripe plume]

Have you guys seen the Playtest #4 Q&A Transcript in #dev-qna-archives yet? 👀
I made it just for you guys!

[hazy drift]

i don't think they mentioned a playtest 5 in there, only april/may test, so are we to assume no more test after this one until early access release?

[ripe plume]

No clue myself, probably not though If I had to guess

[slow topaz]

Truly a Saint among the masses 🙏

[hearty vector]

Is there a way to download the game before the play test for new players?

[magic cedar]

they will release it several hours early.

I know that it was previously 7am est and 10am west coast US, so assume 3-4 hours before those listed times to download. Old players will also have to redownload since it is a demo now.

[hearty vector]

❤️ ty for info

[thick egret]

7am pst 10 am east coast*

[subtle patio]

아니 한국에서 만들었다면서 왜 한국어로 써 있는 글은 한 개가 없음 어캐

어떻게 생각합니까

지금 거기는 밤 아닙니까

[prime venture]

@subtle patio Hi, you can select Korean 🇰🇷 as language in #1026916693806686208 to unlock the korean chat #한국어-채널

[subtle patio]

거짓말 사실임 ?

[subtle patio]

Thank you !!

[prime venture]

no problem, you are welcome 👍

[subtle patio]

you handsome

[upper tree]

lmfao

based ESL

[subtle patio]

You're my Messi

[slow topaz]

This is some blessed translation right here

[magic cedar]

correct*

[magic cedar]

Please @ me if you know the answer, is the headshot multiplier 150% or 200%?

[peak mountain]

are they still releasing the game demo earlier than the 6th to fix in game bugs?

[urban hornet]

How does Chain lightning Prioritize its potential arcs?

Doesn't discriminate, just wants the closest, got it

[idle lily]

Head hits deal 150% damage
Torso hits deal 100% damage
Limb hits deal 50% damage

From the wiki: https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Getting_Started#Body_Part_Damage_Modifiers

[magic cedar]

Appreciate it!

[magic cedar]

do you happen to know how damage is calculate. Eg: rogue with a offhand dagger, has dagger mastery 5%, headshots 150%, and maybe its a backstab too 130%?

[idle lily]

Not sure honestly. Might be somewhere in the wiki though

[magic cedar]

Like is it just multipliers so 161.051.51.3 or is it 16.05 = .8 + (161.51.3) or some variation

I checked the wiki, but not even rigorously enough to find the values you provided, I am doing a pet project while having little knowledge and bad math, this is fun

ill just brute force calc all possibilities and link it later, thanks

[serene sonnet]

I heard this game will have a karma system. How does it work?

[thick egret]

basically if a player commits to many team kills they will have a red name

so that u can avoid them when looking for a group to play with

[rancid bridge]

They didn't say this explicitly but my my impression was that if you use the ingame groupfinder and play a round with someone you get an oppurtunity to rate them somehow which will either gives them karma, or takes it. And then when looking for group members you can see their karma. Maybe I'm crazy tho.

[wicked summit]

might as well uninstall dnd now for prep huh

[languid sphinx]

hey so for the demo when will it release for HST time zone?

will it be supported for HST?

[rugged axle]

Check #📢announcements for all playtimes it is a worldwide release via steam.

[languid sphinx]

Yeah but it doesnt include HST

[willow remnant]

hi guys, for this play test the magician will be nerfed?

[analog blaze]

thanks 🥳 it reads great!! just finished it. super cool stuff in there!

[stoic night]

I don't believe they mentioned this, but I might be wrong. Either way : let's hope they do. As much as I love playing wizz, he was busted last PT

[slow dagger]

my aim is to be the first red name

[stoic night]

Why bother killing mobs or enemy players to get loot when your own team is loaded with it

[visual river]

no clue but people do get mad when a wizard kills them

[quartz bear]

Q: Is there any actual confirmation on whether or not I need to uninstall the current dark and darker client before reinstalling the demo?

[sly silo]

You will need to download their demo version of the game from scratch. They dont mention whether or not you need to uninstall older versions, but i would to be safe.

[shy brook]

Will they be implementing Voip?

[rancid bridge]

yes

[grim furnace]

Uninstall and just download the demo

[quartz bear]

k

[silent delta]

aactually

you don't have to

but there's something you gotta do that I forgor

basically it just checks for changed files and replaces/downloads those and then you can instantly download it

[limpid hound]

verify files in steam

[quartz bear]

Ill try this and if it doesnt work imma panic delete and reinstall.

[limpid hound]

you'll have to wait until the open beta id imagine, if it doesnt work surely it'll just be a minor inconvenience to reinstall

[quartz bear]

Not getting into the game instantly to start grinding as a trio cleric would delay the other angsty clerics and make us lose a fraction of the competitive winning mentality.

[limpid hound]

ah clearly as someone who is yet to play the game i do not understand these megamind levels of play

[burnt badger]

Hey guys can anyone describe to me the entry for high roller? Is it a flat rate or can you wager more etc.?

[neat bramble]

last playtest it was a flat entry every time, like 70g

you wager with your gear

[burnt badger]

Perfect thanks @neat bramble

[cinder thistle]

Why is the 4th date, this saturday, marked on the cave troll’s calendar?

[dense topaz]

was the demo coming today on 1 pm?

[cinder thistle]

If you mean the playtest, it’ll be opened 1:00pm, EU central time (frankfurt), on the 6th of Feb.

[wind furnace]

Is there a set release date for this game yet? Or an estimate?

[cinder thistle]

Early Access: April/May. Full Release, planned to be Q4.

[sleek seal]

What is voip?

[neat bramble]

voice functionality is done in-game and not through third party apps like discord, also an option to speak to other non-party members in the dungeon and you can hear them as well, if they use the specific button for it. Also option to turn it off entirely if you don't want to hear/speak.

[dense topaz]

Good reading spells is for wizards...ofcourse 6th Feb is not today :p

[ripe plume]

It's not really marked, It's just some dirt or something like that, I think.

It might be just cut

[cinder thistle]

Huh, well what do you know. Thanks.

[molten mauve]

is there gonna be a tier list system like for example eod for tarkov for a bigger stash?

[versed river]

how much health does each class have, do we know?

[slow topaz]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Classes

stats for all the classes^

[versed river]

thanks

[slow topaz]

not something the devs have discussed to my knowledge. hopefully storage will get a little easier in the future though as more features are added to the game

[coral ice]

Hey guys, can you please tell me more or give me some links. Like, is this going to be limited time one, or stable early access game when you can play any time and stuff?
Is this going to be free or not?

If you have links describing this just gimme that so I won't bore you with more stupid questions...

Just want to understand if it's going to be stable early access in April/May or just many annoying small tests like right now

[boreal narwhal]

Lol small annoying tests. They are my highlight

[slow topaz]

The current playtest that is in three day will last for a week (maybe a few days longer). The Early access in late April early May will paid release. the true release of the game will come in quarter four of this year. Early access should be stable but not likely to be free.
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Dark_and_Darker_Wiki Has a lot of info about the game statistics if you want to look at that as well as patch notes.

I'd check #📢announcements for any other info you might need

[coral ice]

Yeah I follow it and read some info, just wanted to be sure that it's going to be stable. But well, thank you for more info

Btw is there any info about price?

[slow topaz]

nah dev havent said anything, but most people seem to think around 20 for early access and close to 30 for quarter 4 release. but that's all speculation

[outer elbow]

so wait probably asked already, but is the solo map gonna have different mobs since its different map? apart from the cavetroll ?

[rugged axle]

I havent seen anyone ask that but its completely possible.

[versed river]

how long is the duration of ranger footstep visibility, i.e is there a timer on foot prints; new or old?

[noble minnow]

For regular lobbies, does anyone know when the timer stops showing?

[sharp nacelle]

I believe its in the final minute or at least close to it?

[noble minnow]

thats what im trying to figure out, i just watched this video where you see it disappear with 2:36 left on the clock

so 2.5mins left i gues

[sharp nacelle]

Yeah at that point I try and lay attention to the circle on the map. Fully closed = death in about 3 seconds.

[noble minnow]

Yeah 100%, just putting some notes together for some new homies that are gonna be playing the game for the first time this playtestr

now if only i could count the little bars and figure out how much time each one represented

[sharp nacelle]

You're a good friend lol

Take the total time than divide it by the number of pips? That should give you a rough estimate

[noble minnow]

yeah, its more or less actually counting them where im struggling, i need a high res photo or something i can zoom in on

[slow topaz]

there are 46 of them. I just went and counted off of a screenshot I had from last playtest

[noble minnow]

12/46= .260, so basically 25 seconds a tick

to make things even and clean

[noble minnow]

thank you for counting 🙂

[slow topaz]

🫡

glad to help

[rich ingot]

Is there a way to invest in Ironmace? (a question for devs - not reddit users)

[vague badger]

With regards to VOIP toxicity, would advocating for the genocide of the entire Rogue class be considered toxic?

[slow topaz]

oof. someone got shanked I see

[jade magnet]

[rough dove]

will there be a way to turn off voip?

[low flower]

So explosion bottle, bleeding, and gas clouds are all sources of magic damage, right?

[slow topaz]

yes

[distant elm]

Huh why don’t they add different type of damages

[gleaming bone]

they said they are working on diff ways for increased stash eithe rearned or purchased

[grim furnace]

What is the use ?

[gleaming bone]

damage is damage there is physical and magic damage types, adding any other types is unnecessary imo

[gleaming bone]

i think bottle explosion is physical damage and a wizards fireball is magic damage

[low flower]

As long as those are the only two types then I'm fine with it.

[gleaming bone]

yeah theres only physical and magic, nothing else, why are people confused about damage types?

[low flower]

so lets say a dragonflys poison, thats "magic" even though its poison.

[gleaming bone]

I hate it when games make resistances for each element and every variant of damage when really it all boils down to whether its magic or physical

[low flower]

and I hate getting mixed answers.

[slow topaz]

well seeing as normal dragonflies dont shoot poison then its probably magical

[gleaming bone]

no one knows for sure except the devs, but I'd assume its magic. You'll always be getting mixed answers because none of us are devs, we don't know everything

[slow topaz]

mug

[gleaming bone]

👶 🍼

[slender cloud]

Does anyone know if the new playtest will have VOIP?

[slow topaz]

Yes it will

[worn verge]

Can Rogues dual wield? I haven’t seen one dual wielding yet, or maybe I have and just didn’t notice

[magic cedar]

yes

so can barbs and fighters I believe

weapons permitting

[worn verge]

Okay cool. Is there a reason to not dual wield as a rogue?

[magic cedar]

Speed debuff slightly

[worn verge]

Thanks for the info ❤️

[magic cedar]

Realistically, no reason not to

you get the attributes and buffs that roll on your weapons only if equipped, so if you have an off hand and main hand weapon you should dual wield even if you only use one to attack so you can get the other benefits

[worn verge]

Okay makes sense. Thanks a ton!

[magic cedar]

: P

[runic warren]

It happens around the three-minute mark iirc

[worn verge]

Gonna DM you another rogue question if you don’t mind

[burnt badger]

you smell

[clever egret]

I question love the game can’t wait for another play test. Am I able to stream the game or is that against what y’all want right now Ik stupid question but rather ask then not

[magic cedar]

Streaming is allowed, you can apply in the 'applications' channel to become a Troubadour (streamer)

[magic cedar]

^

[lapis perch]

Based on previous playtests, do patch notes drop on release or before?

[runic warren]

Patch notes usually drop about a day before the game is opened up

[lapis perch]

Tnx

Can’t wait to see the chaos on general chat

[runic warren]

You looking at it now? It's already chaos rofl

[lapis perch]

It’s not true chaos until a class gets oficially nerfed and everyone explodes

[runic warren]

lmao

[clever egret]

Oh cool I recently switched from twitch to fb so imma be doing both anything I need to apply

[slow topaz]

The application is something you do after you have streamed the game for a set number of hours or have a number of videos out on yt. You dont have to do it to start streaming

[clever egret]

Ahhh ok appreciate it didn’t wanna stream befor bc I didn’t know how y’all would take it bc it’s in play test so thank you

[queen pebble]

?help

[rough falcon]

playtest

Playtest Information

Playtests are announced in the #📢announcements channel. The next playtest will be within the dates of Steam Next Fest. Start time: <t:1675684800:f> - The time is in your local timezone. Upon the start of the playtest you will be able to download and install the playtest for free on the Dark and Darker steam page here! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2016590/Dark_and_Darker/

Don't forget to check the #❓faq channel for the answers to frequently asked questions!

[short niche]

i heard that there will be solo queue is this true ?

[slow topaz]

yes. the new caves map with the new Cave Troll boss will be a solo only map

[true crescent]

Any word on when we'll be able to download the files for the next playtest?

[slow topaz]

in the playtest information bot post above

[paper hatch]

When does the playtest end though

I can’t find it anywhere

[inner prism]

it says in the announcements tab "end of steam fest" so were assuming the following sunday

[narrow tundra]

They said the end date for the playtest was unannounced it maybe longer than the steam fest or it may end with the steam fest we will see

[rich spindle]

they usually extended the playtests

i hope they will again

[narrow tundra]

Exactly

[rich spindle]

2 days left

[slow topaz]

[warped ivy]

[prime raft]

[crimson lark]

oi

[hardy lantern]

Is that a backpack on the second screenshot in steam page???

[sly silo]

Interesting! Looks like an older build of the game tho.

[hardy lantern]

Yeah, that's a bummer

[desert igloo]

Backpacks/Weight is a planned system although it could've been scrapped

[severe galleon]

Is there a safe starter guide for those of us who haven't hit level 20 in a class yet?

When the 6th comes around I want to be ready, or at least have an idea of what to expect.

[frosty sandal]

To be completely real with you there might be but the best way to go about the game is trial and error because the game is still in development

you will never now what best for you if you dont just go for it

[livid fern]

Is there going to be a better market system then just a spamming chat? One where you can have a search system for specific traits, armors, etc. things you are looking for to create or finish a build?

[brittle ember]

If you mean next playtest, probably not, but will be improved, if you mean in the future, nobody really knows.

[livid fern]

Just wondering for in general for future not necessarily this play test

[brittle ember]

If we get something "better", then most likely not anytime soon, because of current "more important" goals, like new classes and even skilltrees...

[livid fern]

That's fair, I agree there are more important features to the game but I feel with how popular the game is/will be and with speaking with friends and others who have played, Its not utilized well in its current state. Some have stated they just wont use it and take the hit to just sell to vendors over dealing with the spam

[brittle ember]

In the end it's up to players how they want to deal with it, personally i sell anything that has no good stats like + X to all attributes, + dmg on hit and so on, except longbows and any items worth more than 50, 100 gold, to vendor.

[sick marten]

Hello, will there be support for the Russian language and others?

[grim furnace]

@sick marten Wdym by a support?

there are already russian wardens and a russian channel

[sick marten]

Is there a tag for it?

[grim furnace]

Yes in the role channel

[sick marten]

Thank you

[coral ridge]

will there be any update in d&d? new things?

[craggy sleet]

What do they mean with "We plan to open the demo a little early " 2-3 Hours or a day

[runic warren]

You can pre-download the game six hours before the test actually starts

[craggy sleet]

Sexy

[desert igloo]

The start times are listed in the announcement page which is 6 hours earlier than the official start of the nextfest

[craggy sleet]

Still Sexy

[lament drift]

Will this playtest be available to play on geforce now or no?

[grim furnace]

I dont think so

[lusty cloud]

hey, to those who played multiple playtests, will you need to uninstall/reinstall the playtest on steam or will it patch automatically?

[orchid vault]

dark and darker when?

I forgot the date

[jade lake]

That would usually be the case but, this next PT is gonna be a "Demo" instead requiring your to reinstall the game. This is due to a requirement by SteamFest.

@lusty cloud

[lusty cloud]

appreciate you

[jagged viper]

strive to go to hell. You will always gain a bit of exp going down. And focus on mostly creep kills right away. Be sure to bring a cleric with you going down there and be sure to bring 2-3 campfires per run.

[jagged viper]

And if you don't have a cleric bring health pots and even more camp fires.

[hushed knot]

beta 2 test when is close?

[slow topaz]

On Monday

[hushed knot]

?

please tell me the date

[slow topaz]

the 6th

[hushed knot]

hey

i am qna is beta 2 test when is close are you k?

[hardy creek]

it supposedly closes feb 13

[hushed knot]

thx

[versed river]

will the nightmare gaurds reflect light strike

its an aoe so im assuming no but not trying to take chances if someone knows better

[crimson trout]

does the spear get -20% dmg with the perk when used on a warrior or is it a warrior weapon?

[slow topaz]

its a fighter weapon

so no damage reduction

[crimson trout]

oh gotcha no penalties

[stiff plaza]

do we keep our skeleton skins?

[slow topaz]

Nope

[stiff plaza]

thats a bummer

[jagged viper]

Check the announcements btw. They are pretty good about keeping up to date in there about alpha tests so far.

[limpid quest]

Did the devs mention anything bout releasing the game on early access or without the play tests?. Im not that informed and the 3rd playtest was my first, and i literally played the day it finished and im hungry for this game lmao

[slow topaz]

Currently there will be a playtest starting in 2 days, on the 6th. You can check #📢announcements for the times or use ?help command for your local time zones start time of the upcoming playtest. There will also be an Early Access release in late April or early May that will be paid and will run until q4 when the official game is released.

That's all we know at the moment. #📢announcements is the best place to look for any updates

[limpid quest]

LETS GOOOO. Many thanks!

[slow topaz]

np

[ripe stream]

does anyone know if our characters from last playtest are set back to base level and wiped or if the characters themselves are deleted for next playtest?

[magic cedar]

it is a wipe, you will have to make new characters most likely. I only played one PT but I still assume everything will be gone

[ripe stream]

gotcha thanks ❤️

[slow topaz]

What cat said is correct

[jagged viper]

Also expect more wipes happening going forward. I doubt we will be able to keep our characters until it is fully released or into last beta stage where we can have access to servers at all times? Just be prepared for a lot of wipes in the future.

[worn nebula]

@whole sluice i hope you're well buddy! thanks for everything youve shared with us ❤️

[coral zenith]

Will VOIP be for team only or proximity?

[slow topaz]

both! at least thats what I heard. if not both than proximity

[coral zenith]

Thats gonna be so sick

[slow topaz]

ikr. the opportunity for both trolling and cooperation in the game is going to be amazing with voip now

[abstract robin]

do bosses see through invis?

[slow topaz]

No but currently some ai will continue an attack animation when you go invisible if the attack was started before the invisibility effect was activated

at least as of last playtest. may not be true this time but we'll have to wait and see

[whole sluice]

You are all most welcome! Going to get some play test time and update the book this time

[distant elm]

#📢announcements

[royal wind]

wipes are mandatory for a game like this

[polar yoke]

agree but if they're adding solo queue, don't be surprised if they add a no-wipe mode too

[slow topaz]

bruh.

[polar yoke]

solo queue is the first step in pandering to the diaper-wearing masses, so it's not unreasonable to think

[slow topaz]

bros crying because he cant win a fight 1 on 1. L

[polar yoke]

idk how you managed to extract that from what I've said

[slow topaz]

why you got a problem with solo que?

its worse loot. its just something for people to play while their friends arent online

[polar yoke]

because it's very clearly a step in a different direction, a waste of dev time and cheapens the dnd experience

[sand radish]

I don’t think they should have spent time making a 1v1 mode but I’m not so against it that I’m just gonna complain. I’ll try it and it might be fun. But it did take development time away from other stuff

[polar yoke]

nothing is stopping poeple from playing normal queues as a solo

going to solo mode because your friends aren't online essentially means you're just going to get bodied by the handful of people who are already very comfortable playing 1v3

[runic warren]

It's far less of a time sink than a full-on Solo version of the main game, which the devs aren't doing

[light jacinth]

I mean ppl cry because they can’t 1v3. I don’t get your point, à solo dungeon can be ok, but dividing the population isn’t great. The 1 man dungeon is going to be a change of pace, but still I’d rather have the group dungeon crawler feel. Solo plays are a choice not a necessity. You can easily find teammates or play it safe as a 1 man vs teams. That’s my view on it

[runic warren]

Also, this is literally just a test. We're not even at the Beta yet

[royal wind]

how do you know this

[slow topaz]

okay so nothing changes. its still skill based. and if you want to run into 3 mans as a solo you can still go normal lobbies. but now people who aren't mega sweats or have dozens of hours a week to play can have fun without needing their friends to be online

[runic warren]

Well, it's confirmed that the boss currently drops only Epic-grade loot, so it's somewhat assumed

[royal wind]

have the devs released a statement

[slow topaz]

max rarity in solo que is lowered. devs said so in the interview by Onepeg

[royal wind]

oh ok

[polar yoke]

shouldn't go higher than blue tbh

[grim furnace]

Its epic (purple) max

[royal wind]

ill probably still go solo in team dungeons anyways

fuck having bad loot

[light jacinth]

They stated it on the dev talk and they are going to tweak it, but purple ain’t bad loot btw lmao they said even legendary might show up. The other guy puting you on a wrong lead

[runic warren]

Probably doesn't apart from the boss. I'm not sure if Legendary loot is possible to acquire in Normal lobbies without boss kills

[slow topaz]

yeah. sounds fine by me.

[royal wind]

i see

it's just a "trust me bro" situation then

[slow topaz]

right now the devs have said purple is the highest you can get from boss loot (killing the troll) but that may be changed

[runic warren]

I mean... you can listen to the dev talk lol

[polar yoke]

check the pinned messages

[royal wind]

I can also wait for monday

[polar yoke]

"max drop is epic"

[sand radish]

A lot of good rolled blue armor/jewelry is significantly better than any legendary/mythic stuff you’ll find. A lot easier to get the important rolls on a blue or purp

[brittle ember]

epic = purple

[polar yoke]

yes

correct

[brittle ember]

that's what he said

[slow topaz]

yeah...

[polar yoke]

it's just a "trust me bro" situation then

check the pins

[brittle ember]

"right now the devs have said purple is the highest you can get from boss loot"

that's epic

[slow topaz]

you @ me lol I think you meant to @ the other guy

[brittle ember]

^

[polar yoke]

I know that's epic

I told him to check the pins

[runic warren]

I'm still definitely checking out the solo dungeon though

[brittle ember]

why

[polar yoke]

it is no longer a "trust me bro" situation

[runic warren]

Might be able to team up with other Solos using VOIP

[light jacinth]

I mean the solo play in 3 man queue is going to be highly better with voip

[slow topaz]

Yeah. thats another cool thing, is that people will have to talk and cooperate in game if they want to kill the troll boss without having to 1v1 it

[runic warren]

well, maybe rofl. You won't be able to talk your way out of every engagement, but it's gonna change the dynamic just like it did with Tarkov

[light jacinth]

I mean it can be highly spicy talk as much as you can have awesome interactions

It’s always a coin flip

[sand radish]

I stg if anyone tries teaming with me. I’ll go along with it till they turn around then smack the back of their head. No respect for teamers

[slow topaz]

meh. idc much either way.

[silk furnace]

is there going to be a predownload option for the test?

[slow topaz]

#📢announcements

[silk furnace]

tks

[slow topaz]

np

[queen marlin]

They also said that the troll may drop legendary items they are still tweaking it

[grim furnace]

where?

[boreal pawn]

Does anyone know if they'll release patch notes before the playtest?

[slow topaz]

In the interview thy said they might make it so legendaries drop at a very small chance but right now they want to keep it at purples. but it could also go to a lower rarity. its the devs decision on what is fair at the end of the day

[grim furnace]

Yeah few hours before

[boreal pawn]

cool thanks

[grim furnace]

ah mb i must have missed that

thx

[slow topaz]

nah no worries

[uncut shale]

hiya, are there fov options on the demo coming up? the tight corridors put me on a time limit for nausea but i really enjoy the game

[drifting whale]

going to farm the troll

[slow topaz]

top tier question👍

[silent root]

Crazy, you get motion sickness due to the corridors? I could see if you were using smooth locomotion in VR but on desktop?

[sleek seal]

they sayd play test will be faster than steam fest? so we can play couple hours faster?

[slow topaz]

yes. you can check the start times by time zones in #📢announcements

[sleek seal]

ye but this is start of playtest or next fest

cuz i think it means next fest launch

not playtest

[limpid quest]

Its free until they release it, cause its gonna leave the f2p formula.

[slow topaz]

No new info on cosmetics. The next week will be f2p but the Early access in late April early May will be paid and then there will be a full release of the game this winter

[limpid quest]

Ik right? This game could be pricey and i wouldnt even mind

[slow topaz]

np

[burnt badger]

Where there any event exclusive cosmetics?

[slow topaz]

Last playtest there was an earned set of cosmetics and emotes. Nothing confirmed for this coming week though.

[limpid quest]

Kenneth you doing gods work over here, thx for that.

[slow topaz]

hehe. I got bored waiting for playtest so I decided to help out lol

[limpid quest]

Something to quench the hype and stay alive. I coped with vox machina and dnd 😭

[slow topaz]

lol I started playing dnd again after last playtest. got inspired to run a really difficult trap filled dungeon crawl. was a lot of fun. my players hate narrow hallways now lol

[uncut shale]

yeah it's weird I know, the tomb portions in skyrim and valheim are really bad for me in my experience with it...it's usually mitigated by a higher FOV but yeah

[limpid quest]

when i played tomb of annihilation, we just took a 10ft stick and hit everything until we ended the dungeon, skill issue 😈 . Jokes aside, that sounds awesome, hope you and your party dont suffer from rescheduling, mine does and its horrible

[slow topaz]

thats well and good. until the dm introduces you to an 11ft wall spike 😈 . we play once every few weeks. its not too bad. but def had a few sessions get canceled due to irl stuff. 🤷‍♂️

[limpid quest]

know that feeling 😔 , hope you get to a usual weekly dnd 😭 .

And those 11ft wall spikes, im gonna steal that if i ever dm and my players do that 😈

[slow topaz]

oh yeah. the best is when you make a pattern for about 3 or four traps. like, a certain number of arrows shot by a trap or a certain reach for a wall spike, and then change it up. throw in some extra spice.

[limpid quest]

Thats cool if you also do another pattern so they can figure it out somehow, and link it to info they find and such like riddles. Not like thomb of A, random patterns with no sense that you cheese with a stick 😭 .

[slow topaz]

I love playing with number repetition. 3's and 7's seem to be the ones my players notice the most. and 3's are perfect rn because there are three of them so I like to hide lots of 3's in my game for them to find that helps pull them towards plot

[limpid quest]

thats cool jsjs, i'll try to do that type of thing, my first and only experience dming was descriptive and without maps, i wanted to try stuff like this, just seemed complicated ;;

[fierce totem]

If I increase the duration of the second wind through the beneficial effect duration bonus, does Hp get more than 50%p?

or not?

[slow topaz]

that's actually a really interesting question, I don't know the answer but you now have my attention. I'mma go look through the wiki and see if I can find anything

[slow topaz]

From what I can see no. Buff duration only effects things that are stat increases. as the second wind ability doesn't increase any of the core stats it doesn't count. very cool idea tho. would be interesting to see something like this as an option on the talent tree when that eventually comes out.

[fierce totem]

Is the second wind affected by additional magic healing?

[slow topaz]

good question. gonna look that up

uhhh I cant find anything on what magical healing effects. might be spells only

[queen marlin]

Anyone who is good with stats know if magical damage increases the poison damage per second on rogue if it interacts with a dagger with +2 magic damage

[surreal brook]

Is there any monetization in D and D?

[rugged axle]

No presently everything is free and all skins can be bought with in game currency. It is the devs hope that the game will be buy to play with DLC similar to Dead by Daylight

[fierce totem]

it is interacts.

[queen marlin]

Thanks guys <3

[untold drift]

DbD DLC's is p2w, its not just skins, they selling enire mechanics and characters. We have dozens of game with only cosmetics for money, DbD is bad example

[rugged axle]

Oh ive never played DBD I have no idea how it works I thought the devs used that as an example. I dont know of any extraction shooters that dont have you pay for advantages though.

Tarkov, Hunt, Cycle, you get better stuff through paying even if its just a bit of stuff.

[late void]

you pay like 5$ for killers

specifically only licensed ones need to be bought, original killer designs from the devs themselves can be earned ingame

[fierce totem]

If I fight back and kill someone who's trying to kill a team, will my name turn red?

[grim furnace]

Prob yeah but record and report this guy to the warden if it happens

[fierce totem]

no i'm saying about next patch 🙂

[grim furnace]

Yeah I answered

[abstract robin]

is there somewhere i can find barb shout sound? I dont think its in the sfx files on the website

[fierce totem]

aha thx

[brittle ember]

Does True Shot skill work on crossbows for Ranger?

[grim furnace]

it would be useless to use it like that tbh, crossbow is already really fast

[brittle ember]

I wanna try spear crossbow, and 3 other skills work only on bows from what i read..

[grim furnace]

tbh dont

i tried and it sucks

[surreal whale]

When you drink a protection pot, does it make that noise when the shield goes on you that everyone can hear? Or is it just the pot drinking noise they hear? (if that makes sense)

[desert igloo]

they hear both

[burnt badger]

Any update on the buggy filter preventing certain names being banned?

[pliant stratus]

can iam uninstall old version client?

[surreal whale]

thanks!

[solid pawn]

Its specifically stated your name only turns red after multiple repeated team kills. a one off instance will not turn your name red

[proven kindle]

Will the game be available for download before the actual release time?

[solid pawn]

yes

[cinder swan]

do i need to uninstall game file now?

[grim furnace]

yeah you will need to redownload it

[solid pawn]

The demo download i believe will be up a few hours before next fest start time. so you will be able to pre install it shortly before it goes live

[maiden saffron]

wait it won't be an update on the current shit we have installed?

[solid pawn]

no

[dawn plaza]

You have to download the whole game again

[solid pawn]

new download

[maiden saffron]

shiiibal thanks for info

[solid pawn]

uninstall last playtest for safety

[dawn plaza]

But luckily it is just like 10GB or something

[brittle ember]

Does anybody know what a "long-range weapon" is? All bows and crossbows? Sharpshooter perk says it.

[solid pawn]

all bows and crossbows yess

[left kettle]

Does anyone know if we need to uninstall previous playtest in order to play the next one ?

[acoustic pivot]

I just read a comment that said yes

[left kettle]

Thank you very much sir <3

[cyan gust]

are we allowed to post our own discord in the LFG channel?

[frosty charm]

You might be able to drag the contents of the old client out, start the download, then drag them back in then verify contents. But that's liable to give you a ton of bugs. If you have slow download id try that

[latent radish]

dark and darker is the whole world coming out tomorrow?

[runic warren]

I assume you have to kill your teammates pretty consistently to get the red nametag. It isn't gonna happen on the first violation, especially when the War Maul exists rofl

[coral turret]

Is there a ToS anywhere?

[idle lily]

When have patch notes usually been posted in previous playtests? Right as it starts or a little earlier?

[desert igloo]

should be a little before the release

[narrow kernel]

Probably already been asked but do we have to reinstall or will it auto update to be ready tomorrow?

[light jacinth]

You will have to reinstall with the ‘’demo’’ option on the store page

[supple jay]

How are the devs even going to balance solo queue
"X class is op in solo, Y class is op in group, must nerf those"
after nerf
"X class is shit in group, Y class is shit in solo"
repeat

Uneven 16 players with 3,2 mans queueing, how long will the queue times be ?

Solo should have more players queueing since you won't have your group online a lot and since group q takes a while to pop, you might get bored and not even use the group finder now. Since solo has to be more popular then group, it will always seen as a positive in perspective of datasheets on devs. I doubt if they ever take a step back

Group queue will only be used by tryhards now due to long dedicated queue times which will only get longer over time, not ppl trying to have fun and chill with friends, which is what devs saw in "high roller test" as well, I cannot see how a group focused game could succeed in a split focus solo/premade setting.

[worn verge]

F balance. Let me 1 shot the entire lobby

[lyric crow]

I think you totally underestimate how many players their are. All modes will q fast. It's a play test let them test. Voice opinion after a day or 2. I'm excited for solo but will spend 90% of my time in 3s

[opaque dune]

Is anything new being added to this play test? I saw the troll but that was it

[rose lava]

someone wrote down the patch notes so i'll just paste it here

---Final Update for 2/1/23 QnA---
Playtest Length: Feb 6th - Feb 13th
New Dungeon: Mines Single Floor Dungeon with Troll Boss and is "Solo Queue Only" and "max drop rarity is Epic"
Wizard Changes: "Current Wizard is based on our first attempt at a magic system... will likely need changes"
Skill Tree: "No Skill Tree this Playtest"
Launch Time: 7 AM EST Launch, must "redownload game as demo," or (unconfirmed) attempt a file repair
Early Access: "Early Access Late-April to May, MUST release with Floor 1"
Floor 1: No Floor 1 development has begun, discussion on outside/sunlight "has been discussed internally"
Blocking: "Not actively looking at" blocking changes, but are "smoothing out that system by checking collision boxes"
Two Handed Weapons: "may have gone overboard on two handed weapons," "not returning to October's no movement penalty," but it is changing
Maul Swings: "we haven't touched that" in regards to the horizontal swinging of two handed Mauls
Speeds: "we will now look into" stacking speed penalties
Gold Storage: "we haven't touched anything about gold storage," "good chance in the future we're going to implement it"
Trading Post: "we're close to the Trading Post being what we wanted," but "we're making changes to make it more... functional"
Shared Stash: the idea is "on hold"

[slow topaz]

Floor one wont be out yet. The cave troll map is its own separate thing from floor 1.

[rose lava]

VOIP: "IT WILL BE IN THE GAME THIS PLAYTEST"
VoIP Muting: "You just press it and it mutes it" (in regards to in-game voice muting for streamers/bad actors/etc.)
Bards: "hopefully next time"
Sorcerer: "I kinda gave away that it's coming as well" (not this test)
Skills/Classes/Etc: "Not much (added)," "Maybe one or two"
In-Game Party Finder: "in-game chat room with inspect feature based on regions"
Karma: "system based on team killing that will mark you if you do it too much"
Team Kill Protection: "like team killing... is actually part of Dark and Darker," "if the community degenerates... draw a harder line"
Bulk Buying/Selling: "we do have a solution, it does sell stack items now"
Rubysilver: "We just slashed [rubysilver requirements] in half"
Quests: "[in the future?] yes." "...will see preliminary system in the next playtest."

this is probably not all of it though, its just broken down based on the qna answers

[shut scaffold]

What time does it actually start because the announcement says 4:00 a.m. my time but streamers keep saying 10:00 a.m. my time

[quartz bear]

Just look at announcments and ask google was time it is for you in those timezones at that time.

[shut scaffold]

@quartz bear The issue is they announced they would also be allowing downloads to happen early 6 hours early 6 hours happens to be the exact amount of time between the two different times that I keep hearing

[opaque dune]

Thanks man, I’m honestly just hyped to be playing the game again. Although I am curious about the troll cave because some people are saying it’s just another portal that only one person can enter. Like a pve only dungeon maybe?

[quartz bear]

The times they posted IS the earlier hours.

[slow topaz]

Nah. So the Troll is a one person party map, you go in solo but there will be other solo players as well. Its going to be a mode like regular and high roller are.

[gentle jolt]

Do a bit of trolling

[slow topaz]

Just a little trolling

[opaque dune]

Damn, I thought they were kinda wary about solo queues for balance/health of the game? I mean I don’t mind cuz it’s good combat practice without needing to bring a team or go yolo in solo normal.

[slow topaz]

They said loot tables would be reduced a bit and max drop rarity from the boss is purple atm but could be adjusted either way in the future for balance.

[sudden night]

Ay, how many people actually beat up lich in previous playtest?

[misty canyon]

me me me me me!!!

[grim furnace]

few thounsands

[somber inlet]

is the game going to release today?

[fierce totem]

my friends killed over than 10 times in normal

[late portal]

when are they releasing the changelogs with everything they updating this test?

[fierce totem]

depend on your country

[somber inlet]

new zealand

[fierce totem]

check announcements

[fair briar]

Can we choose which server we can play on in game?

[thick egret]

Yes

[fair briar]

Thx

[upper wolf]

has anyone tried playing across continents for example, person 1 in USA playing with Person 2 in South East Asia? is it playable and what servers is best for this situation? thanks

[thick egret]

You can play with each other how ever there will be lag/ping issues

[tropic kiln]

Have they mentioned how big the file size is for tomorrow?
I may be on my network that has a data cap xD

[abstract robin]

They didnt but could be anywhere between like 12 to 17 gb

[lapis perch]

Anyone know how I can have both the Wiz and Cleric roles but have the Wiz display? Seems like no matter what the Cleric one has priority

[silent night]

Can you trade gear between your own charcters

[slow topaz]

Not really. You have to trade it to a friend and then account switch and get it traded back so really only works if you trust the people you play with

[silent night]

Wow im surprised you dont have a shared stash

Thats odd to me

[slow topaz]

🤷‍♂️

[distant elm]

How can you pre download the game?

[slow topaz]

You got to wait for playtest to start in 16hrs

[abstract robin]

Cant

[cyan pivot]

In #development visuals, is TotalKillCount pve kills, pvp, or both?

[slow topaz]

pvp