q-and-a

[upper wolf]

Is there cross server play? Like if I’m in the US server will I be able to play with a friend Asia?

[raven beacon]

When readying for a game you select which region you wanna play in; east coast, west coast, UK, etc. so yeah you’d just join some Asian server close to them

[simple jetty]

yes. and it's so smooth. Australians were playing on US servers without trouble, last playtest. it's not region locked at all. you pick the region that you want to play on, but when you're in a group, it goes by whatever region the host of the group has selected (the person who invited the other two people).

so if you're in US and he's in asia, whoever invites can just select an EU server to meet in the middle.

[shy breach]

I just watched the Ironmace CEO interview w/ Terrence, on the Topic of Hacking he mentoined they hired a Famous American security engineer. does anyone know who that is?

They should add into the EULA, that if caught hacking, the player should lose their DnD game from the steam library

[burnt badger]

Is there any way that there could be an early access version that allows people to experience the game that could be published and not be a bother to the devs? (if that makes any sense)

[river pulsar]

I think adding more consequences isn't what stops hackers/people set out to ruin games. What stops them are barriers of entry that restrict access, like what OW was originally going to do with Phone Verification. But I'd be fine with even stricter barriers if it means we can be relatively cheater free.

[shy breach]

yeah,, the barrier to entry should be phone verification + revocation of game purchase ( 30$ or however much the game costs), cause each time they get caught they would have to fork up another purchase. same strat twitter is taking with 8$ subscription to combat bot nets

[gaunt bramble]

How do I download game to play during the tests?

[simple jetty]

just wait until the 16th when it's live, and steam will allow you to dl for free.

[simple jetty]

just have to make sure they don't accept VoIP tel numbers, like activision/battlenet, otherwise every hacker will just make a new google voice number. even still, prepaid phones are cheap; if they're willing to rebuy the game, another $15 for a month of prepay srvc probably isn't going to stop them

[twilit moat]

I would suggest hardware bans, but that also easily has an easy work around with certain kinds of software that changes the identity of the parts.

[simple jetty]

mac spoofing has been around a while, yea

[rugged axle]

Most cheaters are lazy though. If it stops some im all for it.

[twilit moat]

That's a good point, but I have faith in the devs and their abilities. I just hope the game continues to grow and prosper.

[dense eagle]

what is the current cheating/ anti cheating situation just curious before the playtest

[dawn plaza]

I assume that in the alpha no or only small actions are taken against cheaters (probably just banning manually through reports #report-wicked-mod-only). But the devs said that they take cheaters very seriously. The main focus in an alpha is to bring new content and change stuff. There is not much time for an anticheat (especially for a small dev team)

[wispy parcel]

hope they find a solution but anticheat usually just messes up the base game due to poor implementation

[dense eagle]

ok

[hardy ingot]

This guy right here undercover for the cheaters lol …🪓🤨 very sus ?

[dense eagle]

hey anyone know any good dark and darker hacks? ||jk||

[hallow briar]

Most bladed weapons are great for hacking and chopping and slashing down doors or containers or foes 🪓🗡

[dense eagle]

ah thanks

what about cheating

people out of their loot of course

[simple jetty]

yea if you press alt-f4 when you encounter a player you won't have to fight them..

[dense eagle]

i mean your not wrong

[hardy ingot]

So we all know mobs can hurt each other with their melee attacks. Can the Zombie Fart hurt other mobs? Also the Dragonfly poison?

[stuck mica]

I think the zombie fart effects things that arent zombies like skeletons but might be wrong.

Otherwise people would intentionally have the zombies fart to then kill other enemies... like it would be a goto strats for people who suck at melee combat like rangers.

Yes im calling you out rangers

You wouldn't know how to use a butter knife to spread jam on your filthy 3 rations.

[hardy ingot]

I’m thinking on this for some more questions once I know for sure! @whole sluice

[hardy ingot]

Actually thinking about trying what I want to ask instead of asking it lol 😂. Sorry for the bother Mad.

[dull coral]

I know for sure Dragon Fly poison hit and killed a shield skeleton last play test during one of my runs, but same with Phi I dont believe fart cloud does any damage to mobs but may be wrong.

I dont think the poison effect is necessarily what damaged and killed the mob, maybe there is an initial damage effect caused by it that then applies a poison?

[topaz kraken]

How do i apply to become a partnered content creator ?

[shut scaffold]

im not 100% but IronMace has a email address

[topaz kraken]

ok thank you

[split bone]

Any links to updates for the next playtest that I am missing somewhere?

[quartz bear]

Not in text form (at least none that are 100% reliable)
Go to the Q and A podcast for verbal teasers in #📢announcements .

[whole sluice]

It's totally fine, I don't mind helping 🙂

[terse harbor]

@whole sluice can you elaborate on your description of the longsword parry from your handbook? If you hold right click can you just do a block, but if you time it just before an attack, you can transition to a counter?

[whole sluice]

Yes

It's basically a faster second attack

[terse harbor]

very interesting

thx for the reply and for your amazing work on the handbook

[whole sluice]

You are quite welcome, and glad it helped 🙂

[burnt badger]

How will you access early access, will the game have multiple packages like tarkov with only the higher end ones giving access or will you just buy the main game at the regular price to gain access?

[wet mantle]

I don't think there is any news on that yet

[burnt badger]

Okay, thanks

[winged girder]

On the day tho it is just request access download and your off.

[wet mantle]

I think they were asking about Early Access vs upcoming Playtest 🤔

[winged girder]

ah yeah i did missread

[summer wigeon]

developers want to add more languages ​​to the game?

[placid cedar]

Is it possible for anyone to get access to a play test?

[hallow briar]

Yep! When a playtest rolls around anyone can request and automatically receive access to the playtest by visiting the Steam page 💎⛏

[placid cedar]

Great! Thanks for the reply!

[random badge]

when is the next playtest?

[raven beacon]

@random badge 16th - 23rd of December

[polar yoke]

if you hold block with swords etc rather than parry are they effective at blocking? or do you take reduced damage

[river pulsar]

If you stop a projectile or the swing of a sword it stops the damage too, but it's a lot harder to aim the blocking animation with a sword than a shield.

[dusty ledge]

What is the total length of time people played the game during the test in hours?

[rugged axle]

150

[devout crow]

150k hours?

Or are those just your hours? I think it's a combination of 2 test hours though, since previous test wasnt up for 150 hours 😛

[rancid bridge]

wait, projectile? Can you parry an arrow with a longsword? i kinda like that if u can

[rugged axle]

Yes you can parry arrows

[rugged axle]

No no I meant just 150 for me, I been around since the August playtest

[next linden]

when Dark and Darker come to steam for downlod ?

[twin knoll]

I managed to parry one arrow with a spear in the last play test. I didn't even know that is possible. 😁

[long finch]

I believe they said their goal was April 2023 (maybe 2024, pretty sure I remember April tho), don't quote me on this tho

[rugged axle]

Dec 16-23rd free download on Steam
Dev Q&A | New Map | New Classes | VOIP | Ranked | Private Lobbies | AH | Road Map+
https://youtu.be/uKULTFV9HRM here is an animated road map as well

[drowsy cradle]

In the dec 16 ply test there’s gonna be all that?

[rugged axle]

We will have modified maps, a new race, cosmetics, crafting and a lot of other stuff but the road map is for release and beyond specifically.

[fathom crow]

Only way this could be possible is an offline version as they wouldnt have to keep up the servers. But i doubt they wanna do that, and i dont like the idea either. But im no expert here.

Does the cleric perk that gives 15% of the heal to yourself when healing someone, work on yourself? So if you heal yourself for 20hp, will you get the +15% extra as well?

I doubt it does as the perks name is "kindness" and it says "when healing another target". But the 3hp doesnt really make that much of a difference anyway

[whole dune]

will there be loadout presets? purchase presets?

[simple jetty]

presets are tricky in a game where the items of value are all unique (rng stat rolls on anything above blues).

[grizzled patrol]

barb perk that not only breaks a trap but makes them yell something offensive and gives them a 2 second speed boost

[simple jetty]

i like this. and i think traps as a whole are broken; there should not be a skill-check like a lockpick. look down, interact, done. and i say this as a ranger main. skill checks are a bad idea when your life is on the line.

[polar yoke]

it's very hard to get out of in a split second but i disagree, it adds more value to cautious players and the rogue trap spotting perk

[warm jetty]

Yeah getting caught in a trap shows the little amount of time or thought you put into your actions. if you simply look down you won't be caught in them. I love how the skill check is fast, maybe a little to fast for a slow combat game and should toned down a bit, but if you get caught in a trap, you deserved it.

An object that doesn't move and has predictable placement, no excuses. Takes a lot of variables for a cautious player to ever be trapped.

[polar yoke]

slowing the skill check down just means you have to spend a greater amount of time in the crosshairs

[warm jetty]

Im talking 50 ms or so.

Not even Dead by daylight's skill checks are that fast

[polar yoke]

there just needs to be a skill check trainer in the lobby or sth

once you've done it a few times it gets a lot easier

[jovial parcel]

It needs to be slower, sometimes the check zone was too close to the start an you couldn't react fast enough because of latency

Maybe just making the check client side or something would help...but also it think they should determine the average reaction time and that should be the fastest check IMO

[solemn ridge]

I would make the skill check much easier and maybe add a little fixed time to start it to compensate

[wispy parcel]

lock picking was a jumpscare every time to me

[fossil trail]

oh Troubadours, who are so wise in the ways of science, what will we be testing in December?

[wispy parcel]

also beartraps are just annoying since you cant hit them with a sword or arrow to trigger them and instead have to manually disarm. The difference should just be noise level with proper disarmament being quieter.

[simple jetty]

a duck!

[thorny reef]

someone call?

[rugged axle]

We will have modified maps, a new race, cosmetics, crafting, class changes, possibly backpacks and a lot of other stuff. High roller lobbies and new leaderboards.

[burnt badger]

eh i dont think racing has a place in this game, like i wonder what first place will get and how will it be abused

[fossil trail]

Awesome, sounds great. Can't wait!

[tranquil mulch]

Anyone else thought the crafting system would be different kinda disappointing cant craft heals

In game with resources I don’t get it why would I mine for resources to craft gear after game when I need gear now

[quasi heart]

How does one join the testing of this??

[dawn plaza]

Is this confirmed? Didn't watch the new Q&A videos yet

[rugged axle]

yes

[midnight reef]

@rugged axle A new race? Or a new class aka bard?

[rugged axle]

Race. Bard unlikely until 2023.

[pearl flax]

I hope the new race has a radically different build than the standard human player -- either it's gigantic or smaller. Otherwise it's just samey but with cosmetic and hidden character sheet changes

[simple jetty]

#📢announcements wait til date, dl on steam then.

[fast falcon]

Will there be open beta? As in we will be able to play non stop, with frequent updates?

[pearl flax]

Should be early access in Apr-23, unless that's been changed

[granite dawn]

I assume different starting stats but the same class specifics

[hardy drum]

Hope orcs and goblins will be an added race that would be sick

I want to kill a goblin rogue so bad

[drowsy cradle]

i hope they add the 100m

the best race by far , most intense and doesn’t get boring at all

[open cove]

I'm surprised there aren't other playable races? At least do Elves and maybe Orcs?

[terse harbor]

does phy heal bonus add to every tick of heal, if i remember correctly it works for campfires, but does it work on potion and second wind ticks?

[whole sluice]

It used to, but it only effects the totals

[solemn mango]

according to a recent interview, races are planned in the future. There are just more important mechanics to implement first.

[open cove]

Noice

[solemn mango]

apparently a new race in the next playtest. huh

[scarlet totem]

When is next playtest

[mental pebble]

Start time 16 de diciembre de 2022 8:00

End Time 23 de diciembre de 2022 6:00

[terse harbor]

wow that makes it pretty bad then, I can see how it would have been op stacking it and drinking a potion, it could become as strong as second wind lol

[wooden cedar]

+5 phys healing is still an extra 25% on blue bandages and +50% on grey bandages

It's not broken stackable but you can pick it up as a bonus stat and it is pretty noticeable

[terse harbor]

sure, but with how fights end in 1-2 hits once you're geared, I would rather have a combat stat that helps me win the fight

having it one 1-2 pieces should be enough

[lament drift]

I just saw a video by the big Phun himself with Haych and the melon in it and was wondering when the next alpha test would be? This game looks fun af

[terse harbor]

look 3 comments up and u have your answer

[ancient igloo]

Where can we see something like a catalog of the art for the game?

[quartz bear]

But like the beginning of 2023 since a dev said in an interview with pestily that the bard class is the class he pushes for the most

[granite dawn]

What is the most significant thing about a bard? Does he play songs that create status effects?

[solemn mango]

yeah so bard is gonna play like the higher you look up, the higher the pitch and vice versa and how accurate you play your song spell is the effectiveness. also with effectiveness, performing as much spinning as possible adds a sweet vibrato effect that buffs your bard spell

[rancid bridge]

u joke but that would actually be amazing

[fading raft]

not slower but the check shouldn't spawn right before the check

[bold yoke]

So I have a friend who lives out in the country with lesser internet than I have. But he was wondering what the bandwidth requirements for download and upload speed are to play because he wants to join the next playtest.

[bright bane]

Hey probably a question that’s been answered lots but is there a summary of all the planned changes (nerfs/buffs/new content) anywhere that I can give a quick read? Basically just looking for patch notes

[solemn mango]

There will be official patch notes drop a few hours to one day before the playtest begins.

[bright bane]

👌

Thanks boss

[wicked summit]

unsure but the game runs pretty smooth regardless of regions, so far at least its super smooth as of right now ive yet to lag once

[ruby spindle]

How can i join beta or early access for the game

[wooden cedar]

Wait until December 16th then hit request access on steam page

Ur in

[tawny axle]

Any hope we get the playtest extended? Might be a nice Merry Xmas? Think about it eh eh eh? Im sure a LOT of player will be on for the weekend of the 23rd and into the next week for holidays. ;)

Think of the data?

[acoustic heath]

you think the devs dont want to go home with their families?

i bet they do, and we wont

[river pulsar]

I could see bard casting work like: You choose to play a spell, and your character "locks" movement. Your WASD buttons turn into notes you play, and you have to manually memorize/figure out hundreds of songs that have different effects. 😂😂

[left frost]

What is a high roller lobby exactly?

just lobbies of people in purps and oranges?

[raven beacon]

Lobbies that you have to pay gold to play in and the leaderboard will only apply for high roller lobbies now not normal lobbies

People will be taking it more seriously so yeah they’ll probably be wearing better gear

[bold yoke]

I’m guessing the high roller lobbies will be separate from regular lobbies?

[whole sluice]

Most likely, that being said, there isn't really any info about High Roller Lobbies. Almost all of it is guesswork

All we know is the Devs mentioned that they are interested in looking into having what they call High Roller Lobbies that are separate and would need some sort of something, in order to join. It's intention is to have highly skilled/geared players compete against each other

[bold yoke]

Ah leveling the playing field all way around

[raven beacon]

Wait I forget did they confirm you’d pay in gold to enter high rollers?

[whole sluice]

Haven't confirmed anything

Just the idea and bane

Name

[raven beacon]

Oh ok thought they said you’d use gold. Probably will but who knows could be something else, we’ll have to just wait and see I suppose

[opaque zodiac]

We also know the leaderboard is exclusively tied to the high roller library, IIRC

[stuck hornet]

Now, I haven't actually played the game
But would it be wise to split the playerbase in a game where gear matters so much?

It makes sense in cases like tarkov's labs, just interested in how it would be implemented

[polar yoke]

i predict it will not be an issue at all

[shut edge]

highroller could have a basic gearscore thing

scuffed gear being 0 points and other rarities more points and different weights for different slots

[gentle fulcrum]

have the devs ever considered using ML to train the AI to be more deadly agianst players

[pearl flax]

That would be absolutely bananas if they added some kind of Nemesis-like entity to a map and gradually trained it up on ML

[subtle anvil]

is there an official date somewhere in the discord about the upcoming playtest?

[shrewd grotto]

yes

[pearl flax]

Dec 16th, unless they've changed it:
#📢announcements message

[shrewd grotto]

theres a command i saw for this but i forgor 💀

[grand tundra]

Do spiders give xp? Definitive answer please

[viral sedge]

anything that spawns does not grant xp

[zinc field]

Have the devs said anything regarding what time the playtest might go live on the 16th?

Will it be evening like previous tests?

[polar yoke]

10pm aest

[tranquil mulch]

so yall are saying only player kills give exp?

how many player kills or do higher level enemies give more exp?

[lean saffron]

No. Player kills give little xp. Most xp is from monsters, interaction, going down, extraction.

In the playtests so far you can level up extremely fast. Like level 1-4 in one good run.

[wicked crane]

i think what the other guy meant was that anything that has a specific spawner, like the vases for the spiders, don't have an exp count since you could sit at a spawner for the whole raid just smacking the spiders

[opaque zodiac]

Dumb question: was it even possible to unequip Spell Memory? Can you use two skills which trigger with a keypress; did anyone even try this?

[shut scaffold]

TWO WEEKS!!!

[hallow briar]

You could, in theory, take off Spell Memory in favor of one of the other skills.

[opaque zodiac]

How would you trigger like, smite and judgement separately?

[hallow briar]

The skill slots themselves are the ones bound to the hotkeys. So, say, Smite on E and Judgement on Q.

[opaque zodiac]

ty ty

[nocturne violet]

Hi, When use q skill what is cleric saying?

[polar yoke]

'in the name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful"

[stuck hornet]

Supreme pfp

[summer wigeon]

christmas in dark 😂

[tidal gate]

@digital quiver yall hiring? im cheep, moble, and have a wide varity of mastered skill sets. i checked ur website, but i did not see a formal application option. if u need a quality team mate, overlooking my horrable spelling and grammer, feel free to dm me and ill shoot you a resume.

[winged girder]

Be a rogue and have the perk to move. Or be a wizard. I think Invis pots break on movement for all

[steady stratus]

Potion of invisibility are different then rogue invisibility, when you drink a you become invisible for as long as you want until you move.
For the rogue , you can have the skill to turn invisible, the basic version of that perk work the same as the but only stay 60 second, if you move, it get you out of invisibility but you can add a perk which then allow you 10 steps while crouching that let you remain invisible, I think the more step you do the fastest invisibility run out but I'm not 100% how this works.
There's also the wizard that have a different skill to turn invisible but I do not know how this one work.

[steady stratus]

but they can move right?

[burnt badger]

Yeah normally

[shut edge]

yes, and have increased movespeed

[steady stratus]

Ooh that's cool I didn't know that, I'm guessing it gives a visual effect of some kind of teleportation.

[winged girder]

isnt the increased move speed from the spell haste

[shut edge]

invis also increases movespeed on it's own

[raven beacon]

About invis pots, can you turn and look around or does that count as moving? I never played with them much

[steady stratus]

Yes you can move your mouse all you want as long as you don't attack or use something or move(WASD)/jump.

[raven beacon]

Ok gotcha. What up looting and readying and attack, like pulling back an arrow or throwing weapon? Would either of those break it?

[steady stratus]

yes, any click on keyboard and mouse seems to brake it, the only thing I'm not 100% sure is switching weapons etc, if I remember right this doesn't affect it. By example if you drink and invisibility potion and are standing there but have your dagger in your hand, you can switch to throwing knife and remain invisible I believe, but you cannot click to charge the throw.

[raven beacon]

Gotcha makes sense, thanks for the explanation

[steady stratus]

My pleasure ❤️

[celest cedar]

Not sure about this one. I played wiz all last playtest and didn't notice natural movespeed increase at all

[rancid bridge]

it makes u 10% faster

[pearl flax]

For the D&D folks out there- does the Rogue/Thief archetype ever utilize hand-mirrors (or just anything reflective) for handling corners in any campaigns? is that a thing?

[opaque zodiac]

Not as far as I’m aware. Mirrors in 5e are usually specific magic items.

[stuck hornet]

You could probably RP it

But mechanically I don't think there's any rules as written for that

[elder lotus]

If we installed the last play test do we need to Uninstall that version and re download the new version of the game once next test comes out ?

[wet mantle]

No need to uninstall

[elder lotus]

Awesome ty

[neat bramble]

Rogue starting gear has Thieves' Tools which includes "a small mirror mounted on a metal handle"

[burnt badger]

I’m pretty sure it gives a boost as well!

[quartz bear]

Is the closing death field supposed to be something? On the steam page its described as a "Dark swarm that comes to collect your soul"

[neat bramble]

some kind of insects/scarabs i think? it's probably still placeholder

[quartz bear]

Checks out. It will be cool if its gets a spite update to look like a swarm of black scarabs.

Like a great plague is closing in on the ruins.

[neat bramble]

i didnt pay attention to what's currently there, but on their video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eKe1sVxMys it says "old ring effect", has the black scarabs if you look closely

[wheat vector]

hey can you please let us play this game again we're all depressed and the other games arent fun anymore 🥹

[prime wedge]

I feel exactly the same

[quartz bear]

Thanks for the help! Idk why Im so curious about it. I think its because I mostly didnt want this enclosing border to ruin my emersion at all. But if the animation and spites for it make it fit with the setting than im all for it.

[sacred dagger]

currently only in korea they are.

[quartz bear]

I DM a lot and have played rogue a few times and literally no one would ever use mirrors like that, its far more effective to stealthily peak and roll for that then to shine a reflective surface at a monster. Only time mirrors have ever been used is to attempt to petrify a basilisk with its own sight (Which failed because they glanced over the shield to angle it properly right as the basilisk turned towards them with a held action and petrified them, completely throwing the rogue with a mirror off.) and the other time the mirror was just a trap that was placed next to multiple invisible wall of forces to confuse the players to no end (Because looking into the mirror showed a path behind them but they couldnt walk through it so they got stuck staring at the mirror for 30 minutes using their "big" brains to figure out the "puzzle".

[rocky tree]

Yeah.. hand mirrors are for changelings to have an excuse to get a perfect disguise in a very short amount of time with a dead body

Or vanity flair

[feral lintel]

How much space does the game take to download?

[teal tree]

less than 9 gb

[rugged axle]

Probably 11gb now that were moving to 8 maps and two races + crafting/mining

[raven beacon]

When you say 2 races you mean humans plus the new one right? Or did I miss something

[rugged axle]

Yup

[austere kite]

Announcements have launch time at 6 am est, when usually it's at 6 pm est. Are they launching servers 12 hours earlier or was this a typo?

[shut edge]

does disarming a trap as rogue give exp?

[terse harbor]

When you say 8 maps, you mean 1x B1 forest, 5x B2 Crypt and 2x B3 Inferno, right?

[rugged axle]

No. Per the devs this test cycle we will have:
2x B2 Crypt 2x B3 Inferno
High Roller Modified 2x B2 Crypt 2x B3 Inferno

[terse harbor]

thx for the info

[winged girder]

Highrollers are for sure in the next test? I thought they just agreed they might look at it

[wet mantle]

No no, seems like they're 100% putting it to the test

[winged girder]

@wet mantle Oh nice. As much fun it was murdering everyone it wasn't rewarding when they had no gear/clearly were new. High roller lobbies could be awesome haha

[dire umbra]

you took their lives and it wasnt enough? Savage..

[winged girder]

Not really. Not good when you kill 10 people but the loot you take out was from the dungeon not off one player. That's why I like sound of high roller lobbies.

[hidden echo]

those purp longbows straight deleted people with starter gear

[winged girder]

tbh even blue longbows deleted people in starter gear - but the starter gear was baaad

[hidden echo]

as a solo wiz I got used to runnin starter gear but it felt so good to finally bring in purp gear

[rugged axle]

Also confirmed leaderboard linked exclusively to high roller lobbies to curb griefing

[winged girder]

did we have much proof of griefing leaderboards? i get many people will have done it. but like i didnt try to grief killing teammates or anything and still got pretty high

[winged girder]

it was nice on the last 12hs of last playtest. i have never killed so many purple/legendary geared people albeit a lot of them were clearly still "new" cus of how they played but it felt rewarding to kill someone and get an upgraede

[rugged axle]

Griefing new players, dropping b2 naked to specifically kill as many as you could and then leaving lobby(suicide), exclusively dropping b2 only.
The goal is to create a better environment for new and ungeared players to learn/regear while sending the majority of vets and leaderboard chasers to high roller.

[hidden echo]

I felt good about my skills but watching SoBad Strange and KenKobi and their vids were just wild

[winged girder]

i try not to watch to many videos cus i start to feel a certain way about not being able to play. i did watch @rugged axle video yesterday tho cus i was fiending some DnD. was deleting people with a myth dagger - was a fun watch. Wish i had recorded my gameplay from last playtest - had some CRAZY games on ranger

[winged girder]

i am slightly guilty of the latter last playtest, tho i never intentionally suicided out of a game once, but i did sometimes only drop b2 murder the lobby take a blue and requeue.

[merry zodiac]

Is the playtest still happening ?

[low flower]

It'll open on dec 16th. @merry zodiac

[merry zodiac]

Ty!

[echo crag]

Will Dark and Darker support 3440 x 1440 resolution?

[glass bloom]

Do we need to hopt-in play test or anyone and everyone can play?

How much will the game be

Will the game be a bit like escape from tarkov but medieval?

[rancid bridge]

Anyone can play. price isn't decided. The game shares similarities to tarkov in that you lose everything on you when you die and can fully loot players you kill while you also have an out of dungeon stash you can store things between rounds with merchants/trade to accumulate loot long term.

[warm jetty]

This sounds too good to be true, but I hope this works.

[opaque zodiac]

Yes? There was a fair bit

Nothing crazy but def some gaming the system

Either way the methods of grinding the leaderboard are known, so without high-roller lobbies or similar, devs would just see more of the same. Not great for testing or for players or for anyone.

[simple jetty]

i hope there's leaderboards for both. not that i'm likely to be on either; i'm thoroughly mid, but i don't like the idea that you have to pay to get your name on the board.

[raven beacon]

Trust me it’s for the best I see way to many people just running in mass killing the entire lobby for kill leader board and just leaving all their loot cuz kills are all that matter. Isn’t fun for anyone I hope they never bring it back for normal games. Plus we need a good sink bad

[simple jetty]

yeaa i guess i can see that, with the game blowing up there's gonna be a lot more chads; don't need them bullying off all the noobs.

has it been confirmed that team kills count towards leaderboard? that should be removed.

[raven beacon]

Those couldn’t possibly count right?

[opaque zodiac]

They did before lol

[simple jetty]

i heard a few people saying that was how ppl were topping leaderboards, something about low extract rates. spawn in, kill your two friends, requeue, repeat. that's why i'm asking.

[opaque zodiac]

That was one of the ways*

[raven beacon]

Yeesh

[simple jetty]

gonna drop that in #d-and-d-suggestions just in case it hasn't been addressed yet.

[twilit sparrow]

Wait, 8 maps?

[rugged axle]

#q-and-a message

[strong spoke]

i wonder why noone is guessing if the playable race will be like tarkov scavs, being able to play a skeleton NPC or something, im saying this since what ive heard about races is that they would be cosmetic, and that is not a high priority, so when i heard about the new race thing i cant help but think about them lettin us to play as NPCs, thoughts?

[burnt sail]

I want to be a Mimic

[stuck mica]

Do we have any clue on how many weapons are gonna have a parry this playtest?

Besides the ones from the last, which were bardiche, longsword, and spear I think.

[quartz bear]

Wait does healing undead with cleric spells kill them?

[quartz bear]

I heard a dev say they are 90% sure they are adding races but are hesitant about it as a whole team.

Reason they are hesitant is because they think it will make it even harder to balance things with more varied base character statistics.

[simple jetty]

if it doesn't, it should! drop that in #d-and-d-suggestions

[quartz bear]

No thanks.

[teal tree]

There’s a cleric spell that does damage to undead but the lesser heal spell will heal the mob

[quartz bear]

Does it have the same animation as the healing spell and I just never found it? Or are we just talking about their anti-mob AOE.

[hallow briar]

Holy Light is the name of the spell. Slightly longer cast time than Lesser Heal, will damage Undead OR heal players. Cannot be used to self heal, unlike Lesser Heal.

The heal to others is also bigger than Lesser Heal. I found Holy Light to be my primary party heal while Lesser Heal was for myself or emergencies.

[stuck mica]

I imagine a 4'6 naked goblin running around screaming as a barbarian chases it down the hall, swinging repeatedly but missing them because of how small they are lmao.

If they implement "small" races, they should follow what Dungeons and Dragons does, where they wield heavy weapons with disadvantage because they are too small to properly wield it.

[quartz bear]

4'6 GOBLIN? Nah we want 3'0 kobolds.

[rugged axle]

Real shin stabber they are

[stuck mica]

If they actually made a 3 foot tall character id be so impressed

They need to jump up to get heatshots.

Actually, it would make fighting in crawl spaces hilarious... Like how small races are in Dungeons and Dragons, they can casually walk through areas bigger races need to crouch in.

Two goblin rogues casually stalking a shortcut crawlspace so they can ambush the party from both ends lol.

[shut edge]

just implement straight up pixies with flight but they fight with toothpicks and have almost no inventory space or health

[ivory hare]

what the fuck does cunny mean

[supple zenith]

LOL

[crude arrow]

will you be able to play on steam deck on the 16th

[lethal valley]

hi guys are there any patch notes /expected nerfs logs out yet ?

[rugged axle]

Nope, unlikely until day of.

[pallid steeple]

I played on steam deck last play test so I’m sure you can

[signal vine]

if i played last playtest am i gonna get acces to the next one?

[lament otter]

Yep, it should automatically be in your library. Even if you didn't play last time, the playtest is open to everyone.

[coarse basalt]

hey do you guys plan on adding pinging

[glad cave]

When is the ETA of next Playtest?

[rough falcon]

playtest

Playtest Information

Playtests are announced in the #📢announcements channel. Once the playtest opens on the date specified (Which is December 16th, 2022), you will be able to download and install the playtest for free on the Dark and Darker steam page here! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2016590/Dark_and_Darker/

Don't forget to check the #❓faq channel for the answers to frequently asked questions!

[hallow briar]

See above 💎 ⛏️

[glad cave]

cool thanks!

[daring junco]

For Highroller dungeons, was there any decision made between making the entry fee a unique item earned from a normal dungeon such as a Ticket instead of a ~150 Gold entry fee, and if so why was it decided to use gold instead? Just curious.

[unique shard]

Having the fee being gold means that folks cannot queue for it naked and broke. They at least needed to have gotten out once or twice to afford the entry fee. Otherwise just queue naked and then loot the bodies. They also said that gold would be harder to come by, ie the last playtest they 'upped' the value of loot being dropped but that will be slowed down.

[kind sapphire]

gold is the games currency, it makes sense to use gold as the resource so the economy works better?

[opaque zodiac]

Yeah for balancing it makes complete sense

[fiery coyote]

is that Troubadours thing a literal music related content? or is it like another name for cooperating with content creators?

[urban hedge]

It’s a content creator role 🙂

[fiery coyote]

Ok thanks the name got me 🙂

[urban hedge]

No worries! There’s a bit more information specifically about it in the #📢community-announcements section too, if you’re curious.

[fiery coyote]

yes the community-announcement said "If you are a content creator and wish to join our great band of Troubadours" so I thought of a literal band. english ain't my first language so I got confused

the announcement didn't really show what kind of role it is too

[tribal hare]

Why do you keep trying to 'fix' issues caused by having a soloqueue mode, when you guys havn't actually tried it yet(in one of the open betas). Those "issues" you guys are worrying about, might not even be a real concern, and as such you could just be wasting a lot of time and effort. Just like with programming "Trying to predict future issues and make future proof code, mostly leads to wasted time and harder to maintain code". Try it in one of the betas, then see if actually a problem. Internal smaller scale tests won't really give you the full picture.

[twilit moat]

So the problem with a solo que is that it splits the player base and the intended gameplay dynamic the devs originally intended for the game changes drastically. DnD is primarily a team based game and honestly if you're sick of solo quing find new people to play with, lfg works and most of the people in the community are chill.

[fading raft]

Do we get any safe that the developer never going for p2w and if so we can refund at any time ?

[barren jackal]

Has any other cleric noticed...We open doors slower than other classes. Is that because our faith in god is stronger than our faith in opening doors?

[whole sluice]

It's because clerics are alcoholics and lack the dexterity to manually open a door

[remote lily]

i agree with this. they should keep the things simple. thats what made this game as successful as it is

[wooden cedar]

True, as someone who generally hates trying to play with randoms, the few times I did it was easy and the people were fine. Idk why some people are obsessed with solo queue, you can already play solo in the game currently it's just a bit more difficult/inefficient. Make some friends lol

[chrome snow]

whens the next play test is it pinned

thanks

[feral lintel]

How good of a gpu do you need to run the game at the lowest settings?

[terse hazel]

not sure of the specifics but it feels amazingly optimized and I do not have current gen. I ran it off a GeForce RTX 2080 Ti

[craggy robin]

not sure if already asked and/or answered, but if there is an early access on steam, will it be free or cost money? i wanna make sure so i can save up if i need to but if u guys dont know yet i understand

[shut scaffold]

They have said that they're not sure how they're going to monetize it yet.

[craggy robin]

mk

thanks

[shut scaffold]

They're going to test pay to lose skins AKA cool stuff that gives a disadvantage to gameplay this test in a week or so.

[craggy robin]

interesting

[shut scaffold]

But it's going to be free for the test

[craggy robin]

so do the skins make u look cool but give debuffs?

[shut scaffold]

Check announcements a video talking about it is there there's not much information

[craggy robin]

thanks

[sturdy cosmos]

Is there any word on if lock picks will be available for purchase in the regular stores?

For the Dec 16th test

[warm jetty]

They haven't said anything, but 2/3 maps have guaranteed spawns for lock picks

The one with the church and circle room with wraith have 2 guaranteed

the one with the library and giant pyramid has 1

[mortal hull]

Are there servers for Oceania?

[polar yoke]

ye

[mortal hull]

Sweet

[opaque zodiac]

1060 is min reqs

[hasty trout]

Has someone determined the limit of "lock-on" range for magic missle?

[rose lava]

Yes

[craggy robin]

interesting

[silent carbon]

@opaque zodiac I was playing the game on a gtx 660 with a terrible cpu, def not lower than 40fps

[opaque zodiac]

That’s nuts.

But I mean, min specs as listed on website I think. Actual reqs probably vary

[river pulsar]

The info on that we know is 1) we'll be getting more free Playtests. 2) They've said a paid, early access launch will happen around April-May(but obviously that can change). 3) Game releases later in 2023.

[wind ermine]

are characters deleted after every playtest?

[jade magnet]

yes

[lavish current]

It's my birthday can you start the playtest a few days early, thanks lads : )

[gentle jolt]

good one

[burnt badger]

any plans on steamdeck combatability

[buoyant hull]

Never got a chance to play the last playtest but I am awaiting the next one is there an unrefuted best/strongest class or is their specialization that big of a thing like I ma aware that a fighter can't use spells but it balanced in other areas and a rogue is fast but weak but is their just an objectively best one?

[hallow briar]

Each of the classes has strengths and weaknesses. If you were to narrow your criteria to “best class at a given role” then there are indeed contenders for those roles.

You may enjoy Fighter if you’re looking for an overall flexible, versatile class. It has access to lots of nice skills, perks, and a wide range of equipment. It does well as a “generalist” class.

[buoyant hull]

I have a lot of interest in the cleric all in all but I was curious if they fall short in PVP due to them being better than other classes at PVE

[hallow briar]

Clerics are definitely strong classes to run! While they do have some bonuses against Undead, they’re overshadowed by other classes in PvE engagements due to a reliance on melee combat. The true strength of the Cleric comes in PvP encounters or PvE boss fights, where their selection of buffs and heals and protection can keep themselves and their party in the fight and able to press an advantage.

[buoyant hull]

Oh nice appreciate all the help man looks like cleric it is for me if only you could choose a better trim 😆

[craggy robin]

thanks for the info!

[dull coral]

If you’re running a cleric they are very group focused. Try and grab some buddies to play with ya. There are good Cleric solo builds but then they tend to rely on healing consumables like potions and bandages and take damage dealing perks instead of being able to heal and/or cast buffs.

[halcyon hinge]

problem last wipe is xp was only from killing monsters.. so support roles levelled slower i think... could be wrong

[naive hinge]

how long will be the playtest?

[rugged axle]

7 days

[buoyant hull]

I have some friends interested in the games upcoming playtest so I'll make sure to steal them for it

[dull coral]

You’re entirely right, exp was combat based. Took me much longer to level compared to my friends because I was mainly healing and buffing in the back line.

[terse hazel]

I heard it was also based on the value of loot you extracted with, not sure if that is true or not though

[wicked summit]

cleric is a very good class if you play him right in both pve an pvp situations

[granite dawn]

From what I hear, this issue is currently being addressed and experience for "support" roles will be adjusted for this upcoming playtest.

[opaque zodiac]

Don’t play cleric solo

You’ll have a miserable time if it’s your first time playing the game

I wrote a guide on it, but the info will need to be updated with whatever updates they include to the class, so may not be completely relevant

Likely the bulk of the info will be though

[dull coral]

I believe you’re right, Onepeg addressed it in the Q and A video promoted by devs.

[storm aspen]

Why dude?

Solo is viable. 🤣

[opaque zodiac]

"Viable" is technically right

This ain't #game-discussion though, but Clerics are slow-moving, their interact speed (RESC) stat is the lowest of any class, and rogues will mulch you all day. It gives you a really jenky picture of the game to start as a Cleric. I also wouldn't recommend anyone start as a Wizard. Like, you can but... I mean, Idk why I'm even arguing with you 😂

Their best use is as a support healer, or it certainly was last playtest

Also you have no long-range attacks. Idk man, it's a long list.

[empty spear]

No one asks the important questions. Hey devs(and other team members/mods) are you guys doing ok? Are you all eating and sleeping enough? I know you all are working hard but don't push it!

[coarse basalt]

is that profile picture from slashers keep?

[empty spear]

@coarse basalt yes it is. Keen eye 😄

[coarse basalt]

i just enjoy slashers and dungeon crawlers 😅

[hallow briar]

I work the entire week of this playtest, and will have to squeeze Dark & Darker in the evenings. But much fun shall be had in those evenings!

[empty spear]

@hallow briar I hope you do have some fun! Hopefully these hullegens wont give you to muxh trouble and lets you relax and game out! Don't forget to drink water while playing!

[hallow briar]

Always stay hydrated!

[wicked summit]

i woulda taken leave lmfao

[zenith sandal]

Hello Everyone, little question, don't know if it's already been answered

Is the name Dark and Darker intentionally choose to be short for D&D as a reminder of Dungeons and Dragons or is it something that just happens along the way?

(sorry for my spaghetti english)

[opaque zodiac]

Yeah, I believe it is

[spring pewter]

Can u start play test early? I’ve had the worse blue balls and the only thing that can satisfy them is dNd

[storm yacht]

Will people who didnt play the previous playtests be able to request access once the test starts later this week?

[forest topaz]

Yes, you just go on the steam page and download it once it's live

[steady stratus]

Happy birthday a bit late 🎂 hope you had a lovely day

[lavish current]

aw thanks 😄

[mortal anvil]

HAPPY BDAY! may your bday be filled with lots of fun foot fantasies

[tranquil plinth]

Hello. During last playtest knowledge gave 5% casting speed with every point. That's why that was the most valuable stat for cleric. I watched video announcement and heard this:
"Knowledge is no longer useless..... now it gives option to memorise larger bank of spells".
The problem is that without +15 and more knowledge stat last playtest cleric was almost useless due to casting speed (when you finish the spell your teammate is already dead) and became insane with 30+ knowledge in items.
Does this mean that for some reason someone CHANGED knowledge and made it useless (without casting speed you don't need more spells) or does this mean that IN ADDITION to casting speed you now get larger spells bank?

[rugged axle]

Its in addition to

[dark idol]

magic casters were underpowered compared to their melee counterparts IMO last playtest

[terse hazel]

Last play test, every mimic I killed dropped an axe. Is that intended or did I just have a practical joke played on me by lady luck?

[dusty ledge]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/657/734/7c9.jpg

[subtle gull]

play wizard almost exclusively and hard agree it needs a buff

[dark idol]

ITS GETTING NEW SPELLS

and other shit

[opaque zodiac]

Bad luck

[terse hazel]

I was honestly at the point I thought it was intended as a joke about mimics and axes

[polar yoke]

you just need to start ignoring your teammates and killing them if you have to

[tranquil plinth]

could you please link an official info about it?

or at least tell me where I can find it

[rugged axle]

In #📢announcements the player guide from @whole sluice explains every stat

[lean pasture]

How do I apply/ gain access to play testing?

[terse harbor]

Just go on the game's steam page on the 16th and click the button to ask access, this will get you in immediately.

[tranquil plinth]

well if you mean this one on page 32, that was only planned (this handbook was ready right after last playtest, not recently), not approved. Not sure that "spells count" added will not decrease spell casting speed per each knowledge. can only hope, since cleric without 70-75% casting speed bonus is useless in PVP

[fading raft]

wizarrd is pretty strong if you kknow how to play

[wicked summit]

Idk about this casting speed but I did just fine with or without it in PvP

[tranquil plinth]

With or against blue gear maybe. You probably didn't know but gold gear archers/assasins/berserkers hit 90+ in pvp, you can't heal your teammates casting spells for 1 hour

Also you need to give them both buffs in 5 seconds, not more before collision. Without casting speed you can't do this. 0 knowledge = useless cleric, team just plays 2 vs 3 with 1 player afk

[fading raft]

key is to Prepare before entering a fight

[sonic anchor]

Only a few days more boys and girls!

[tranquil plinth]

still not longer then 5 sec for 4 spells

[spring pewter]

Can you please make a button that swaps weapons?!?? I was very not smooth because I either had to do weapon one or weapon 2. If I want to switch weapon to weapon one I would like to use the same button As I would to change to weapon two.

[fading raft]

idk if it will work but cant you bind booth in the same key?

[spring pewter]

@fading raft nope. They didn’t have double key binds

[fading raft]

ah ok but they said last playtest that they will working on more keybinds

[spring pewter]

Side note what do y’all think about double ranger rogue as a team comp? With emphasis on playing sneaky and trapping hard

[simple jetty]

you can use software to map your mouse's "browser forward/back" buttons to other keys, like "1" and "2". some software will even store configs for specific games, and only change the button function when those games are launched. razer's does it for their gear, i'm sure there's 3rd party options for any kind

[thin totem]

Not bad but 2 3 rangers could skip the sneakiness. Lay traps, be annoying and eventually either kill people or have them charge into your traps

[simple jetty]

i don't think there's an answer to that until we see exactly how much rangers have been nerfed.

[spring pewter]

@simple jetty how do u know they are nerfing rangers?

[rugged axle]

The Devs said all stats will now be implemented and working as intended this playtest. They also said they buffed mage and cleric. Its safe to assume spell capaxity AND casting speed will be functional plus green and blue gear now have stats.

[tacit hazel]

I mean we don't but if you look at stats from last playtest the longbow accounted for the most kills with 12.1% over the next closest being the recurve bow at 8.2%

Rangers don't even start with a longbow (no class does) which means the weapon was over tuned to the point it outperformed all weapons by a considerable margin despite needing to be bought or found

Granted fighters can also run longbow with the right class perk but the power of it came in the rangers triple shot ability

[hexed canopy]

its because you can oneshot noobs with decent gear and purple bow (56+ base damage) even in body

I was able to reach 170 damage in head last playtest, I'm pretty sure its possible to get ~200, in last game we killed very good team with gold bow and some better items then my but then someone killed us, I'm pretty sure I was about ~190 damage with that gear

[tacit hazel]

Yes that is the issue

[simple jetty]

i don't know for certain. it just seems quite likely given the player reaction to rangers. there's been more discussion/anger about arrow capacity than any other single topic, at least that i've seen. i'd be surprised if rangers aren't significantly nerfed in some way.

[fading raft]

never got one shooted

[wicked summit]

either you never went against a high tier archer or you never went against a high tier archer that had good shots lol

[hardy drum]

Double Ranger + Fighter w/bow was prob the deadliest squad ive ran. Clears lobbies quick

[fading raft]

oh there was a decent archers with full epic but you can dodge easily if you notice him and rouge invis mmakes a lot

[terse hazel]

The 10 step stealth perk is underrated

[rotund imp]

I know steam can be weird with estimated release dates that aren't always acurate, is this game aiming to be out Q4 2023 or is it a different time period

[simple jetty]

for full release. might launch full time in EA around end of Q2, start of q3. iirc

[rotund imp]

alright, thank you

[rotund imp]

not sure if this is a good place to ask or not, but is there any games like this while I wait for the playtest

[wicked summit]

Hell no

[clever radish]

Will there be some kind of patch notes that covers the changes before the test drops?

[simple jetty]

there's a number of extract looter shooters. Tarkov established it as a genre. there's also The Cycle:Frontier, Hunt Showdown, Marauders... but none of these are Fantasy/DND based games, and really nothing like Dark and Darker, beyond the genre of "load in, fight/loot, leave". Hunt is based in 1800's, marauders and the cycle are sci-fi space shooters.

i think the cycle is free iirc, might be worth trying. but it's more COD than DnD

i've only played tarkov, out of that list. it was amazing for a year or two, got burned out on it though. not sure how it is nowadays

[static shale]

Only few games are like Dark and Darker in term of "Medieval extract looter..." (but they are only solo player/multiplayer but dead pop) and i think it's why people love this game..because that change of FPS like the cycle marauders eft call of ect...

[simple jetty]

if you're looking for swordfighting, mordhau is fun, but has a much higher skill ceiling; you'll get absolutely destroyed in pvp for a while. also it's only swordfighting, no extract, no loot.

[rugged axle]

Yup look for them about an hour before the test starts!

[static shale]

Chivalry 2 is pretty fun too

[warm jetty]

^^^^^

[odd thunder]

Does anyone know for sure how the treasure hunter stat for leaderboards is calculated? is it based off of the monetary value of loot in your inventory on extraction? does it take into account what you are wearing/have in your inventory on entry into the dungeon?

[normal hollow]

Will the upcoming play test have anything Christmas themed?

[rugged axle]

Its speculated the candy corn event will become a candy cane event 🙂 the devs seem to be in tune with holiday themes as well.

[upper wolf]

Hey does anyone know when or if there will be a preload to the upcoming play test on Friday? Like one day before ?

[rugged axle]

Haan’t been one in the past but the gane is quite small and can be patched from prior playtest clients.

[upper wolf]

Ah I see thanks for the reply. Excited for Friday!

[solemn ridge]

I know you move slower when you go backwards with S.
Do you also move slower with the A and D keys in comparison with the W key?

[wicked summit]

i hate to break it to you son

but i have no idea

[bright bane]

I believe strafe speed is slower than walking

[hardy drum]

Yes, walking forward is the fastest

[winged girder]

You don't strafe here. You turn your camera and press w that's your strafe.

[solemn ridge]

yeah that's what I've been doing, just wondering if W+D had the same speed than W 🤔

[paper widget]

can you pls remove the option to change the gamma of the game ? There are a lot of people playing the game with no shadows or dark places. Why do you let them remove a key factor that makes the game special. I dont want to hate on them but that kinda cheating. Well some need to do that so that they can win. it s a joke.

[junior island]

at what time will the playtest be available please?

[wooden cedar]

Check #📢announcements

[lament otter]

6am EST

[worn jungle]

There isn’t a good way to stop that. If you remove the in game option to adjust brightness/gamma, people will just swap to 3rd party apps/injectors or adjust their monitor directly. Its better to leave it in game and keep everyone on equal footing.

[bright gulch]

literally the definition of finding anything to cry about. i hate gamers lol

[polar yoke]

U can literally see invisible people with borked settings

[warm jetty]

Yeah but he's talking about the settings in the game, can't do anything about high gamma outside that

I play on the highest gamma in game with almost max on my monitor. still can't see shit in dark areas

[burnt badger]

there is no1 removing shadows through gamma

its impossible to remove the darkest shadows of this game with gamma lol

that's not how brightness levels work

its likely u werent hiding in torchless area but a medium darkness area or have potions visible etc

[hallow briar]

This latest playtest it was possible to adjust in-game settings to achieve visibility in even otherwise pitch-black zones, such as entirely torchless corners.

I agree that specific ability is not a great thing to have when darkness is such an important aspect, but I lack the technical knowledge to propose a solution.

[shut scaffold]

They I thought didn't update halfway through the last playtest that made it so that that didn't work I know because I was one of those sweaty jerks who upped the gamma

[frank osprey]

When you have a wizard with +3 magical damage, does it do +3 on EACH missiles OR it's actually total + DMG / number of missile(10 or 15 can't remember)

[simple jetty]

it's each. some geared wizards were hitting for more than 60 dmg per misssile, x10, last playtest.

[rancid bridge]

what's the base dmg on a starter wiz? for missile

[rotund imp]

so have we been getting (about) a playtest every month, or does it just happen when it happens

[rugged axle]

About 5 days of playtesting +/-1 a month since August

[rotund imp]

thank you

[mint bridge]

is the next playtest tomorrow?

[rough falcon]

playtest

Playtest Information

Playtests are announced in the #📢announcements channel. Once the playtest opens on the date specified (Which is December 16th, 2022), you will be able to download and install the playtest for free on the Dark and Darker steam page here! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2016590/Dark_and_Darker/

Don't forget to check the #❓faq channel for the answers to frequently asked questions!

[dawn plaza]

Check the pinned message in #📢announcements to see the exact time in your current timezone

[west tiger]

if we have the game downloaded from late time can we just hope in the game on the 16th or do we have to download it all over again?

[urban hedge]

You won’t have to download the entire game over but there will be an update that’s needed, sometimes a restart to your steam is needed for it to appear on the 16th.

[west tiger]

awesome thank you ^_^ omg i cant wait to play this game again it was so much fun

[mortal plover]

Hey all, do I need to buy the game to enter playtest? I'm considering gifting it to my friends if so

[sand yew]

No. Just got to hit 'Request Access to Playtest', or some similar phrasing, on the Steam store page. Should show on the 16th if it isn't right now.

[safe karma]

Only good way is to put "true dark" like in rust where even brighter the things you are not supposed to see are actually pure on black and you can't see them anyway

but then the mildly dark places are still gonna be "gamma - able"

[safe karma]

I don't think there is a "solution" it's more of a choice , either you try to

-disable the option ingame and try to fight the cheating by using "true dark" in some places where any gamma won't make a difference and the places that are not completly dark will be not dark at all for gamma users

-let it enabled and do the same with true dark and uncomplete darkness

In either way problem stays the same you will never be able to force player into darkness unless you make the whole thing out of pure black but then you loose in game immersion because some rooms can't be purely dark , sometime a light source far away should lit the room a little bit.

At least for now ? maybe one day we will have a way of detecting someone's gamma and preventing it but as far as I know these are the only solutions we have now

[remote lily]

If you want to be as competetive as you can then you need to up your gamma. It worked like that since the beginning of time

Players will always adjust

[outer elbow]

I mean this still can be made as a mechanic, something like rogues and rangers(less) could have invis/chameleon effect when standing in darkness. All characters could have this but depending on class some could do it better than others. After all having barbarian completely hide in darkness is not very fantasy immersive 😄

[feral root]

hello , voice chat soon ?

[solemn mango]

no

[sturdy cosmos]

Where do you have to shoot a gate or metal fence as a wizard to have fireball go through it. It usually just explodes in my face

[static shale]

Not now maybe as a hotfix during pt or next pt

[analog wing]

Do we have a designated time when servers go up?

[fossil trail]

do the devs have any insight into why 3-man portals are gone? just trying to test how it affects squad end game i guess?

edit: the devs have clarified that party portals are now split into 3 individual portals spawning in the final circle to avoid parties camping one specific area. number of portals should be functionally the same

[simple jetty]

i think fireball only breaks wooden doors. for those, anywhere. metal can't be broken. not sure what you mean by gates

[sonic anchor]

pretty sure 6am friday

[analog wing]

3am pst

I got it a while ago but thanks for the reply 🙂

[tardy hamlet]

Hey everyone! First of all sorry for my English it's not my native language. I have a question about the patch notes. It's says no more 3 man portals. Why not ? How 3 man groups suppose to extract now ?

[cunning panther]

find individual portals. It's to stop 3 mans from hardstacking and having to make harder choices on when to extract/godeeper

[simple jetty]

per dev - three man portals already spawned late, and in a smaller near- final circle. now there'll just be 3 portals close together; so a group camping the extract can't just aim at one spot

should be better for weaker groups, not worse, far as i can tell

[tardy hamlet]

ohh i see thx 🙂

but the overall number of blue portals haven't changed right ?

[static shale]

In normal zone yeh

In other na

Its written fewer blue portal

More red

But high roll no diff

[simple jetty]

i think he said less blues in HR, not less blues in normal

[terse hazel]

What is the intent in removing the rapier from rogues? I didn't see it being too much of an issue in most instances. And the option to have reach was nice. It also meant that you could find a usable weapon on non-rogue classes AKA by killing a ranger.

[wind pewter]

so is the tomorrows test like 12 hours earlier than the previous ones? I'm not sure if i'm reading it correctly

[dawn plaza]

Check the pinned message in #📢announcements it will show the time in your current timezone

[wind pewter]

it is 12 hours earlier then

[torpid dust]

Considering the requirements to become a Troubador includes several broadcasts of the game, is it safe to assume we can stream it during the play test?

[urban hedge]

yes

[torpid dust]

Thank you!

[spring pewter]

Did anyone use the steal perk on the rogue? And how does it work?

[terse hazel]

I tested that it does not work in stealth and will break you out of stealth. It has an action bar like if you're opening a chest or door that must be completed before it activates. And it will take a random non-equipped item

It will also specifically tell you if there's no qualified items to be taken

It also does not work on teammates.

[pearl flax]

Right now, pickpocket feels slightly out of place. There're only hostile dungeon settings. Maybe if they get to cut-purse things quickly off of other people's belts

[pliant stone]

What time does the update date and server go live tomorrow?

[spring pewter]

I heard 6am est

@pliant stone

[rose sluice]

why was Polish chat removed?

[dawn plaza]

Language channels are temporarily hidden for normal users

Channels should be visible again soon

[delicate mesa]

Any chance getting client for Mac OS X? ARM64 M1

[rose sluice]

Oh, I was able to see every other chat so I thought only Pl one was removed

thanks

[mortal jungle]

Looks like they didn't add a new race after all?

[rugged axle]

Not all changes are on there but it might have slipped off this playtest good spot

[dawn plaza]

You can now select a language role in #1026916693806686208

[robust rain]

pre download today?

[keen stump]

will it run on lower end pc's or is it still for higher gen pc's (my desktop has a i7-9700k and AMD 560x, but it freezes when i try to play, my laptop has a i7-11375H and 3050ti and it runs fine) , just curious if ill be able to play on my desktop now instead of switching

[terse hazel]

where is the english selection? jk

[dawn plaza]

English? What is that?

[terse hazel]

I dont know, I once learned how to speak and they mentioned that word, but I never heard it again

[thin totem]

Do we know if shared inventories across characters is in this playtest? And if so how will that function?

[atomic mauve]

Probably not.

[finite trench]

Potentially dumb question but this would be my first play test to partake in. Will we be able to download straight from steam tomorrow or will testing require a different process for downloads?

[rancid bridge]

ya from steam

[gilded wolf]

Does the game have controller support?

[round socket]

The game releases at 12 but is that 12am or 12 pm dec 16?

[simple jetty]

check #📢announcements for your local time

[lucid horizon]

If I got into the last alpha but deleted the game, does it just pop back up in my library or do I have to request access again?

[elfin zinc]

I can't find it there, am I blind?

[teal tree]

Yea. IDK your time zone but it's releasing 5am CST

[simple jetty]

#📢announcements message

[novel basin]

You won't have to request access again, just find it in your steam library and press Install.

[novel basin]

Straight from steam.

[finite trench]

Thank you all for the replies!

[twin raptor]

Why was the 3man portal at the end of the floors removed? Having to decide between everyone in your team making it out safe, and deciding if one person was too messed up to stay and had to leave early, was one of the best gameplay mechanics in my opinion. It also rewarded you for fighting through to the very last circle. I feel like it's going to be damn near impossible to find 3 portals close to each other, get them all open, and get your entire team in without someone else stealing one.

[twilit moat]

So essentially what they did was take the 3 portals that were put all in the same spot and spread then out in the last circle so there is the same amount of escapes in the last circle just not all in the same spot. This was done so that a team isn't able to camp one singular spot anymore.

[novel basin]

👆

[twin raptor]

Oh okay, so there's not just 3 less portals over all. That makes it a bit better. I still liked the idea of fighting for 1 triple portal but as long as theres enough portals near the end still for a whole team to get out im happy.

[twilit moat]

Yea it was convenient but now the team that tries to control the last 3 portals have to spread out and coordinate a lot more to monopolize those portals if that makes sense.

[twin raptor]

Yeah i guess it'll be interesting to see how close the portals spawn to eachother in the last circles now

[twilit moat]

Yea that's true I would imagine they're still pretty close since they should all fit within the last circle ya know.

[twin raptor]

Yeah that's a good point, I was worried about teams having to preemptively open portals on the way to the last circle then when they ran back to get them someone else had taken it but it seems like there should be at least 3 portals of each type in the final circles

[twilit moat]

Yup that's how I understood it as well

[frigid rain]

hi guys, at wich hour the game will be on?

[twilit moat]

6 am EST

[rotund imp]

so I never played before, what does "no more 3 man portals" and what is the "high roller dungeon"

[gaunt sparrow]

Don't worry about 3 man portals, it's no longer a thing and doesn't affect your gameplay. "High roller dungeon" is likely someone referring to level 3, the final map.

[rotund imp]

so would a 3 man party not be able to escape together, or is that not what that means

[shut scaffold]

@gaunt sparrow wow bro no Hi roller dungeons you're going to be paying the fee to get better drops harder monsters.

[gaunt sparrow]

No the portals are just spread out. Don't worry about it 😝

[rotund imp]

alright thank you

so normal dungeon has it's own level 2 and 3 and high roller has it's own level 2 and 3?

[gaunt sparrow]

Oh idk what "high roller dungeons" are but it's not a thing either afaik.

[rotund imp]

#📢announcements brought it up

[gaunt sparrow]

Ah nvm then, no clue. will find out soon!

[rotund imp]

that's fair

[gaunt sparrow]

No one has played it yet, so we will be experiencing the new feature together

[shut scaffold]

High-Roller Dungeons

• Expected 20 players per session. *** This may change at any time.
• Ante system – All entrants must pay a gold fee to enter the High-Roller Dungeon.
• Very few Blue portals and many more Red portals on the starting floor (Crypt).
• No more 3 man portals.
• Encounter up to ‘Nightmare’ grade monsters.
• Better drop rates for high quality gear.
• High-Roller dungeons are the only way to get Unique grade gear – Chance to drop from bosses.

[rotund imp]

I see, I never experience how you get gold so not sure if that meant anything important or not

[shut scaffold]

I misread it the first time and thought they said it was only going to have three blue portals

[gaunt sparrow]

You get gold from looting, and selling loot after a game at the vendors.

[wispy imp]

do we know if there will be a pre load? and will the test just appear in ym steam library? i played the last test but cant see the game in my installed or uninstalled section

[midnight reef]

@wispy imp when it comes out it will either automatically start downloading or you might have to restart steam and then it will start downloading (atleast that's what happened last playtest)

[pine jolt]

so the "Normal dungeon" is that floor 1 for once? or is it still floor 2?? also anyone knows what time it starts tomorrow?

[wispy imp]

ok thank you

[opaque quest]

still floor 2, starts at 5 AM CST

[trail blaze]

I see that they said you could talk at the gamer menu now. Does anyone know if they will have voip in game yet?

[opaque quest]

no voip yet

[midnight reef]

@trail blaze only text chat I believe

[pine jolt]

ugh... right when i have to go work 😦

[trail blaze]

Oh i never noticed a text chat last playtest I didnt see that in the new notes though for in game text

[opaque quest]

Party System Improvements

• Players can change characters without needing to get re-invited to their party.
• Added a leave party button.
• Added the ability to kick and block members.
• Added the ability to turn off party invitations through the ‘Party’ menu.
• You can now chat with party members in the main menu.

[midnight reef]

There was no text chat, but seems like they're adding one for this one (at least while in the tavern)

[rugged axle]

Normal dungeon is a mode for all maps
High Roller is the harder variant for all maps

[pine jolt]

i see so it's just a mode 🙂 so if i get it right u can eventually choose what difficulty you want to play on correct?

[midnight reef]

@rugged axle do you know which class you're going to be playing this playtest? Love your vids!

[midnight reef]

High roller will have a fee to enter so probably more late game once you have plenty of gold since it's more risky

[pine jolt]

i see 🙂 thanks 😄 atleast they wanna keep it interesting 🙂

[midnight reef]

Will be interesting to see if people go high roller with crap gear just for the higher loot chance 😀

[smoky latch]

does anyone know how long this playtest will last?

[pine jolt]

for sure some cocky people will lol 😛

[midnight reef]

1 week, 16-23 December

[smoky latch]

lesss goooo

[pine jolt]

A WHOLE WEEK!!! Amazing!!

[grand umbra]

To note, the High-Roller lobbies are the only lobbies tracked for the leaderboards.

[pine jolt]

that's a nice change imo

[opaque quest]

This is the way to get a nice cache of gear once you got lots of gold 😄

although gold getting is going to be a bit harder this playtest

[pine jolt]

it's kinda like work.. in most cases u need a car to get a job, but u need a job to get a car

[rugged axle]

Yeah I will be maining cleric until I understand wizards and how the new rogue dagger works 🙌

[storm aspen]

Just go straight into wizard

Don't waste time, it's probably guna be busted

[rugged axle]

I already have a 3 man comp for launch tho
Fighter-Ranger-Cleric

[storm aspen]

I hear that

Yep, were playing standard as well until were situated

[rugged axle]

One of them can swap to wiz imo but xleric still meta

[burnt badger]

can anyone stream the game ?

[storm aspen]

Ranger can swap to wiz

[burnt badger]

i wanna see how it is

[opaque quest]

i am so excited to frost wizard main

[rugged axle]

@burnt badger im streaming already

[burnt badger]

cooool

[storm aspen]

They're going to have a million different nukes to chuck out, they'll probably have more "ammo" then ranger now LOL

[rugged axle]

#dnd-content message

[burnt badger]

its full

[opaque quest]

There will be a zillion people streaming in 12 hours, but can see a lot of youtube stuff on #dnd-content

[twilit yarrow]

With the removal of 3 man portals and the increase of number of players in each match are the total number of portals still the same ?

[simple jetty]

same

they didn't remove 3 portals. they just stopped grouping them together so they cant be camped as easily

[twilit yarrow]

That is a pointless change. You had to clear the entire lobby to even get to the portals anyway. Maybe once in 100 hours I had a team waiting for the 3 man to spawn and there was anyone else left in the entire map.

[burnt badger]

so if i had DnD the last playtest, would it be added automatically to my steam library tomorrow or how does it work???

[simple jetty]

if you deleted it, you'll have to request access again and download. if it's still in your steam library, just update it once it's live

[storm aspen]

Yea but that ONE guy out of your 50 games in full greys that has been slow walking through the entire map scared out of his mind needs to have the option to steal one of your escape portals

[terse hazel]

I mean he does though?

If he can get away with it why should he have the option

[twilit yarrow]

Nah that is pretty dumb. We will just pop them and go through immediately now its objectively a bad change. Depending on how close they actually spawn. I don't like them trying to force the teams to separate artificially.

[storm aspen]

There is no way for them to balance the game 1 vs 2 vs 3 player teams so the only thing they can do is create situations where a 1v1/splitting up a team is possible. They will go through tons of changes to the game to try and make "solo viable," anything except adding a solo queue.

[jovial shoal]

Hello, I was invited by a friend to join the new test of DnD tomorrow, and from poking around I've found I need to request access to the playtest but missed where/how to do so. Where/what must I do to request to join the testing?

[bitter raptor]

Tomorrow when it goes live there will be an option on the steam page

[wise ether]

At what time does game drop?

[jovial shoal]

Ah, thank you.

[rugged axle]

3am pst/6am est/11am gmt

[rigid snow]

Is it actually 3am pst? That's like 9.5hours from now right?

My hype level just went through the roof if that's accurate

[simple jetty]

that's correct

[rigid snow]

[plain hawk]

I thought this was accessed from steam but things changed?

[rugged axle]

Steam launch in 10h

[plain hawk]

ahhh copy ty @rugged axle

[regal jetty]

흠

[pearl remnant]

Hello! Is it possible to pre download D&D before the lanch?

[olive vector]

How long is the game going to be up for ?

[simple jetty]

until the 23rd

[shell basin]

Anyone know what time the Playtest starts EST?

[undone ocean]

6am

[jagged viper]

So the play test is on the 16th to the 23th. Is there any way we could get it extended to then 26th? Give us this weekend and the next? Just would be bad ass to have it for 2 weekends. ;D

[shut scaffold]

Maybe but The game needs so much active maintenance it seems like that I'm not sure people are going to want to spend their holiday weekend

[coarse mulch]

Is there a special page on Steam where we have to go to be a part of the upcoming playtest in a few hours?

[remote pecan]

No. Just go to the main page.

[rough falcon]

playtest

Playtest Information

Playtests are announced in the #📢announcements channel. Once the playtest opens on the date specified (Which is December 16th, 2022), you will be able to download and install the playtest for free on the Dark and Darker steam page here! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2016590/Dark_and_Darker/

Don't forget to check the #❓faq channel for the answers to frequently asked questions!

[wide swallow]

yo whats the rough download size gb for the playtest?

[rugged axle]

11

[wide swallow]

ty

[cursive knoll]

Do i have to uninstall the old playtest? Or can i update the game?

[rugged axle]

update much quicker

[arctic bridge]

Are there any Discord Role:Wardens around?

[cursive knoll]

thx

[opaque zodiac]

<@&988703997378584596>

[remote pecan]

Hmm?

[arctic bridge]

I will PM you, want to ask about a discord server rule and getting permission for a thing

[opaque quest]

devs need a christmas too

[shrewd vale]

some of them are sleeping dont @ them all

[brave vale]

It's ok to ping wardens >:{

[low jolt]

Without pinging nobody would come tho

[vague crest]

👋

[opaque quest]

wardens love pings!

[vague crest]

We're here to help 🙂

[autumn elm]

Whats up? 💎

[shrewd vale]

i like ur pfp

[remote pecan]

I've got it already.

[vague crest]

Thank you, it is my face

[burnt badger]

wolfkyri to the rescue

[autumn elm]

Oh okay

[jagged viper]

I'm fully fucking dumb. I'm so sorry.

[arctic bridge]

Thanks for all the wardens for the response. I talked with Wolfkyri, and decided to make a reddit post about my darker site for now. I will post a link to the reddit or website in #dnd-content later on.

[zenith solar]

Haha staggered show up

[sinful cypress]

Is there a time when the game will be live?

[rugged axle]

4h 15m from now

[sinful cypress]

Sad

Ty tho

[civic shell]

good idea to head to sleep/nap and play in the morning

[merry kernel]

Yo do we have an updated sheet for what each of the stats do now and which stats are in game?

[rugged axle]

#📢announcements message its in the players handbook from Maddcow

[heady flicker]

is the playtest open to all?

[brave vale]

yes for free, you can download the game when the playtest opens

[lethal valley]

any chance this game will come out a lil earlier than q4 2023?

[rugged axle]

Yes theres a chance they make big updates consistently

[cursive current]

question. is rogue still good? did they nerf some? sorry i havent read any patchnotes or something

[rugged axle]

Rogue may have received a huge nerf they cant use Rapiers anymore but it depends entirely on the new Kris Dagger and Stiletto attack patterns/reach/if they can parry and if the updated dagger animation feels good

[cursive current]

thanks! i always watch your yt vids!!! my rogue idol!

[autumn elm]

Both of the new daggers will be "long range" weapons i`d guess, like Rapier replacements

[rugged axle]

If so we gucci but Rapier was arguably BiS - Kris dagger looks awesome though

[autumn elm]

True, curved blade looks sick

[scarlet lance]

What time today in EU?

[burnt badger]

in 3h

[autumn elm]

<t:1671188400>

[arctic bridge]

How do you make a discord timestamp like that?

[deft scaffold]

can we pre update it or do we need to wait until it drops

[cedar dawn]

type :DN: with the date

[arctic bridge]

ah nice! I also found I think you can do it with <t : timestamp :f> <t:1671188400:f>

[autumn elm]

You need to wait

[deft scaffold]

Cheers

[gloomy stream]

soooooon

[native eagle]

Thank you god for this game

[shy thicket]

So I noticed in the new change log it didn't mention anything about rogue not using rapier but the og one said it was not a rogue weapon anymore.

[autumn elm]

Yeah, cant use rapier now, but he got 2 new weapons, Kris dagger and Stiletto dagger

[shy thicket]

Yeah just wasn't sure if they decided to change it again lol. Rapier seemed to be the go to last play test. Wonder what the new ones are like. So excited 😀

[formal dome]

Steam download opens after 2 hours?

[autumn elm]

Yes

[formal dome]

thx XD

[earnest umbra]

does anyone know the difference between the elites and the nightmares?

[rugged axle]

Specifically no but theoretically More HP, More DMG, Faster with better drop rates and more cosmetically dangerous looking

[earnest umbra]

ok well i hope they are actual nightmares to fight thx!

[shadow totem]

Does giving a Rogue more Will mean it's poisoned weapon perk does more damage?

[rugged axle]

Unlikely, poison was purposefully changed to not be affected by stats but bleed could be buffed by that

[thin totem]

Yes. There isn't anything definitely stating that but i base my answer on my previous playtests and references such as the manuals made by the community

[upper wolf]

Just curious has the servers crashed before once the playtest flood gates open from previous playtest ? 😂

[shadow totem]

Yes they have. The first playtest was awful

but they learned from the past.

[rugged axle]

Geez almost forgot about that

[thin totem]

They spent days on making sure that doesnt happen

[solid shell]

is the play test going to be downloadable from steam?

[thin totem]

On my previous response i was thinking about rupture, not the passive

[shadow totem]

wait, Rupture gets more DPS based on STR?

[thin totem]

I believe rupture is categorized as a spell for stats

So not str

[shadow totem]

ah that explains why it never seemed to work from my testing

[topaz dagger]

do i have to uninstall the game from the previous play test or does that one still work?

[rugged axle]

Youll update that

[steel orbit]

Was the skull key room affected by the normal/high roller loot table changes?

[ocean jetty]

How do i download the game for the playtest, i dont see an option on steam, is there a different way to get it downloaded and ready?

[earnest umbra]

you should be able to request access when it is released today and download it then.

[ocean jetty]

Ok, Cheers

[stone onyx]

how can i participate in the playtest?

[earnest umbra]

its will be releasing soon and you can request access on steam when it does

[stone onyx]

ah i see, i just cant see any download now button on steam. thanks

[fathom crow]

Any idea what the bind spell will do?

[whole sluice]

Rupture was physical damage and benefited from physical power bonus. Poison was also benefiting from magic power bonus.

Late to the party but airport taking a while to get through

[forest bone]

Will people just gear up in the high roller dungeons and then smurf on the people in normal dungeons? Or is there something preventing them form doing that???

[twilit moat]

I believe its supposed to be a new cleric spell and will most likely do what it does in 5e and hold a person or monster in place for a very short period of time.

[fathom crow]

Alright, i guessed it was cleric but i never played D&D so no idea what they did

[twin raptor]

it may be a silly question but I was wondering if will increases how much cleric heals heal for or if it only increases offensive spell power

[young dagger]

How long until playtest is live?

[sinful cypress]

^

[thin totem]

Yes yes, not str. Physical power. Thanks for the clarity

[neon plank]

click the event button in top left and it should give you your local time

[whole sluice]

Will most likely benefits healing, pretty sure it did prior

[fathom crow]

I think it increases heal aswell, cleric doesnt even have any offensive spells so it would be weird if it didnt

Unless bind this playtest tho

[whole sluice]

Smite and judgement were offensive

[twin raptor]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the answers 🙂

[fathom crow]

I mean spells not skills, those that u use with a staff or book

[thin totem]

@whole sluice you and Malkavia#3832 have a third already?

[whole sluice]

I'm flying across country to a funeral right now so I won't even be able to play until Tuesday

[thin totem]

Oh sorry to hear about that. Double whammy

[whole sluice]

The greater healing against undead then

Is all good, and

Thanks

[fathom crow]

Only against pve though, but yeah

[thin totem]

@shadow totem

[shadow totem]

TY TY

[tame shell]

I see the new notes don't include the line about rogues not being able to wield rapier now? So I guess we'll see if it's a typo or not.

[jovial python]

so the game will be avaible to be downloaded at 12 pm on steam right ?

all good I had ma answer

😉

[ruby meteor]

does anyone know if i can reserve a name for my friend? like i want to delete the character and give him the name

[jovial python]

good luck and play to everyone

[ruby meteor]

will there be a cooldown on it?

[subtle anvil]

no preload?

[fading raft]

no preload yo ucan start the download when its on

[wind ermine]

are rogue rapiers back? the change isnt in the final changelog

[random crow]

i still have the old playtest downloaded should i delete it?

or will it update

[quartz merlin]

where do I download? steam?

[fading raft]

why are the channel gone for every langauge

[fading raft]

we will see

[fading raft]

no yo uwil get a update

[fading raft]

yes steam

[quartz merlin]

thanks

[random crow]

sick thanks

[wind ermine]

check #1026916693806686208

[fading raft]

ah missed that one

[wind ermine]

any info on the pickaxe? is it usable by all classes or just strength based ones?

[tight musk]

all classes

[fading raft]

all classes can use it as weapon and to gather the ore

[severe kelp]

Hi, i played the playtest 2 but i do not see anymore the game in my steam library and i do not see the option to resub to the playtest. Am i missing something?

[fading raft]

if you delet it you need to download it again on the steam side

[wispy imp]

when can we download the test? should we not be able to now?

[fading raft]

relax time delay form 10-20 minutes are normal

[terse mesa]

Is it just on the game page on steam? This is my first time

[severe kelp]

i do not have the download button in the steam library, ill wait a few mins after the go-live, lets see if it appears

[fading raft]

that a pure wooden doors with big iron pices on it need some time to push it open

[fading raft]

yeah needs some time 10-20 mmins

[gloomy elbow]

@fading raft and you are?

[upper wolf]

does any one else also have the "uninstall button only"?

[fading raft]

im a archaeologist

[ashen basalt]

maaan everyone here for the playtest at the specific hour

we been lied to?

[lofty fern]

its up

[terse mesa]

It’s live for me, on the actual game page

[lofty fern]

and i'm downloading.

[severe kelp]

ok so it appears, false alarm sorry 🙂

[ashen basalt]

ITS UP

ITS UP

[gilded hollow]

when does the playtest end?

[fading raft]

no problem

[fading raft]

i guess it was tuesday

[gilded hollow]

next week?

[fading raft]

nvm is the 23.12

so next friday

[gilded hollow]

pog

[terse mesa]

23?

[sinful dome]

do we need to reinstall? because i never unistalled and now i cant update it

[fading raft]

yes for exact information check the announcment channel

[fading raft]

you can update

try to re open steam

[dire umbra]

Matchmaking works?

[fading raft]

cant find a match at the moment

[keen stump]

let me in the lobby for a match, then when loading dungeon got black screen

;-;

[fading raft]

im hanging on searchig

[sinful gazelle]

Any clue as to why it's stuck on loading after I get into a match?

[twin willow]

Starting into dungons without my weapon being able to be used as rogue, can't equip it even though it's in my inventory.

[brave vale]

So I don't understand why the spell memory says 20/12 but I'm still good to go in. Is it not working as intended?

[dire nimbus]

are we able to make multiple characters?

[sudden bramble]

yes, jyou can atleast make 1 /each class

[plain hawk]

Can someone tell me how to set my region??

[wind ermine]

eu servers down_

?

[sudden bramble]

above normal/dungeonmap you have "select server"

[plain hawk]

Thank you.... I just wasted 15 mins of playtime before I have to get ready for work due to my being completely blind

[tame geode]

so no solos yet?

[summer sorrel]

are eu servers up

[ruby vault]

SOMEONE SPAWNED RIGHT NEXT TO ME WTF

[unborn drum]

Stuck on loading every other game. Reconnecting does not fix.

[tame geode]

why people spawning on me and killing me off rip before i spawn?

[upper wolf]

Anyone having long match making?

[timber talon]

Anyone having laggs

[simple jetty]

yes

i think it's down

[sinful dome]

eu server down?

[simple jetty]

US down too

[upper wolf]

Stuck in match making for long time anyone else?

[simple jetty]

look up

[snow island]

yup

[formal forge]

When Eu server will start work?

[simple jetty]

no one here could know that

[main coral]

anyone have a map with icons?

[bleak zenith]

Can you revive someone not on your team at an altar?

[simple jetty]

no you can't even take their soul out of their chest to do it

unless that's changed since last playtest

[bleak zenith]

Damn, can't save the random team mates the game is forcing me with

Dark and darker match making with these spawns

[simple jetty]

lucky you. i've just been spawn murdered over and over. wizard vs fighter in a small locked room is bad for the wizard.

[versed vigil]

Are the skeletons races in the shop supposed to have the +MR -Armor benefits? Is this like an early exploration into how races would work? Just curious 👀

[bleak zenith]

Yeah, that's how "skins" will work. stat changes

[silk bobcat]

why does judgement keep saying no target in crosshair when there is?

[upper epoch]

are servers good for you guys ?

[versed vigil]

Don't know if I'd call them "skins" since they give gameplay benefits, but 👍 ty for the answer, i figured as much

[simple jetty]

yea if you're changing stats, it's def not a skin

[grizzled dock]

is there gonna be a way to see our movement speed in units like last playtest?

[dense idol]

thought they we making better spawns seems like when solo i always spawn with others now

[rocky snow]

How do you increase knowledge stat?

[hard dove]

Any more info on the "Failed to connect to game server" issues?

[twin timber]

When you die do you lose your equipped gear?

[hard dove]

yes

[twin timber]

except the started gear then?

[hard dove]

right

[twin timber]

Ok thanks 😉

[coarse basalt]

just spam the button tell it locks on and it will work. the range isn't as far as you would think 😅

[fading raft]

why have cosmetics stats? are they planing to get pay 2 win stuff in ?

[cloud sparrow]

What does Pickpocket do for rogues? How does it work

[dire nimbus]

soo. how do you extract

[cloud sparrow]

blue portals

[dire nimbus]

they just random scattered then yeah

[dire nimbus]

^

[dusty ore]

can you change your class later or are u stuck with what u pick

[cloud sparrow]

you have to create a new charcater

which u can do at any time

[dusty ore]

ah ok ty

[white heath]

Where do we get the game for the playtest?

Do we download from steam? From some a website? From github? Where?

[dawn plaza]

Through Steam. Search for Dark and Darker and request access

[white heath]

Okie!

[dawn plaza]

You should then be able to download it immediately

[summer dawn]

hey just wondering are they still updating servers? i havent been able to connect for 2hrs

[fading raft]

online

[lapis badger]

hi, what need to do if game disconet every 3-5 min?

[grizzled dock]

my gpu is on fire this did not happen last playtest

[burnt badger]

make solo q lmfao

[wanton zenith]

how do you get candy canes?

[fading raft]

shouldnt be 18 pepole on normmal dungeon?

[final birch]

is spear proficiency perk for rangers working atm???

[brave vale]

find them

[brave vale]

They're looking to fix it

[wanton zenith]

where tho is it only in the high roller cause i havent found any so far

[brave vale]

I've found them on normal runs, you just find them randomly.

[wanton zenith]

ok ty

[stark nebula]

Couldnt have my characters name as my usual go to which is Spoonal because it wasnt allowed, anyone know why?

[wanton zenith]

how does the pickpocket perk work for rogue

[wanton zenith]

Someone else probs has it or you might have it on another character i think that isnt allowed aswell

[untold lintel]

what does frostbite do in wizard ice shield perk?

[stark nebula]

nope, it said it just wasnt allowed, like it had a bad word in it

[wanton zenith]

ah ok idk

[silk bobcat]

still getting DC'd from servers

[brittle patrol]

Have they made a better system for queuing with other players? As in actual matchmaking rather than inviting random people and hoping one or two accept

[nova phoenix]

so "arcane spells" are only invis and missles?

[proven trout]

how to use magic on oneself?

[robust tapir]

aim at nothing or the floor, it will cast on self if it's possible to

[slender siren]

can anybody confirm if ignite is broken or not? been testing on training dummies and it seems like its not applying

[fading raft]

i toought we would have 18 ppl and not 16

[twin timber]

all vendors give you the same amount of gold if you are selling?

or are there differences between vendors?

[nova phoenix]

the same, and i don't feel anyone burns longer than 1 sec

[dusty fiber]

try the bind spell it doesnt seem to do anything at all lol

[distant charm]

is there a fix to the failed to connect to server quit the game one yet

[tight knoll]

what dmg does each spell do? only fireball and missile say but no idea how powerful lightening strike is or zap?

[vague osprey]

i play solo because none of my friends are interested, what class has the least trouble solo ?

[trim jetty]

Any way to block as barbarian ?

[tight knoll]

also WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SKELETON WITH IRON SHIELD AND HORNED HELMET. I struck him with 5 lightening strikes, 4 fireballs and 5 zaps and he didnt die

[polar yoke]

it's intentional, you're supposed to let him kill you

[tight knoll]

can you explain?

[simple jetty]

this is a lot less fun...

[wintry helm]

Hmm so they are making skins that allow you to look like a skeleton lol? Interesting

Anyone else get higher GPU heat than per norm on the menus?
I limited the framerate like they said/adjusted settings and it lowered but imo still high for a menu

[mortal mulch]

Is it an issues on steam server sides? Can't download the play test, just says Manifest Unavailable

[brave vale]

One of the more versatile stand alone classes would be nice. I'd say fighter or ranger? Also you can join random parties in this chat and probably find a group to play with.

[polar yoke]

none of them are really any "good" solo

[visual hinge]

can anyone else connect? i keep "connecting" but then it says "failed to connect, quit the game" everytime D:

[quick sluice]

perk build for fighter?

[fading raft]

yes we are all able to play the game witth some lags

[oblique turtle]

can barbarians not dual wield Horseman's axes anymore?

[desert nexus]

Does the fire weapon wizard spell work for rangers arrows?

[proven trout]

why i cant heal onself with cleric? i target the floor

[burnt badger]

Hi! I have a question, can I stream the game like in plataforms like twitch?

[brave vale]

you already know he means better for solo -_-

[shadow shadow]

So how are the new wizard spells? Like is chain lightning worth the amount of memory it takes?

[brave vale]

I've had no issues with trying to heal myself with lesser healing. Are you maybe using the healing spell that only heals allies and harms undead?

[brave vale]

I've seen plenty of people do it, so you should be able to as well. I like that you're asking just in case though 🙂

[sturdy cosmos]

hey does fire mastery affect ignite?

[nova phoenix]

Chain lightning isn't worth it, but it's fun when it works
Just lightning is awful spell with no range at all

[shadow shadow]

Thats unfortunate. Lightnig Strike with a 4 second delay is kind of wow too. Better be like almost one shot with that kind of delay

[dusk ibex]

if a cast bless on another player does the duration go off my will or theres

[sturdy cosmos]

and to add on.. is melt+fire mastery worth it on ignite?

[raven beacon]

So does anyone know where you’re supposed to mine?

[amber gull]

Is there a sort of change-log?

[urban hedge]

#📢announcements there was a text log posted.

[sturdy yoke]

how do you defend yourself as a ranger if they get up close

[empty fjord]

sword

[fathom crow]

Random red glowy rocks in some of the bigger rooms

[fathom crow]

Triple shot or a melee weapon i guess

But most likely ur gonna just die

[amber gull]

I used the search feature, in announcements. I searched "bless" because it seems weaker but nothing came up.

[sonic minnow]

Are the servers down? When I try to play it says it cannot connect to the servers and to quit.

[amber gull]

You can unlock the ability to use Spears, I think.

[fathom crow]

Nah but theres some issues

[fathom crow]

Its a downloadable file in announcements, cant search it up

[amber gull]

Alright, thanks