╓☢stalker-chat

[celest sparrow]

ah

[steep ibex]

lol

is there any reason that Bas thread has been closed? is noone else using bas now?

[celest sparrow]

prob thread is full

[steep ibex]

it says its been archived for me so idk

[celest sparrow]

ah then idk

[steep ibex]

does FWP include bas?

[celest sparrow]

it doesn't afaik

[rose musk]

it could be viable once I hit the north but i'm still pre BS

will have to see what the drop rates are like when i'm killing 50+ mono a day

[steep ibex]

sheet so no way to get bas? what gun packs are ppl using these days? i need me some guns

[formal mountain]

EXCUSE ME, I HAVE JUST LOADED A SAVE IN FRONT OF A MERC AND HE KILLED ME!?

[steep ibex]

plot twist

[celest sparrow]

mainly fwp or handpick from juan /kmack

[formal mountain]

WHY

what the fuck is going on

a great invictus run to > get randomly killed twice in a row

[steep ibex]

gotcha. there used to be a mod that had like Bar and other guns, does anyone know where i can find that?

[formal mountain]

I WAS NEUTRAL TO THEM LAST TIME

[steep ibex]

things have changed while u were away

the tables have turned

[formal mountain]

things are going to change for real, brb loading my finished save and go shoot up all dead city

on my life

[steep ibex]

lol

oh yeah how do i even enable traders to have guns? and what does the black market thing do and how does it work?

also which mod adds the RPD?

or is that base gamma

sheet i need the BaS pkms, all of them

where can i get those?

[stark wyvern]

!bm

[dawn marten]

@steep ibex
If you wish to play with buyable weapons, despite GAMMA being designed around not being able to buy weapons, then read this: #╭📖faq message

[stark wyvern]

by installing BaS
although the thread is dead soooo good luck

[steep ibex]

any pointers? like where can i get my hands on newest BaS?

[stark wyvern]

zero idea man sorry

[steep ibex]

ok screw the black market thing, how can i make it so i can just sell and buy guns like in normal anomaly

[dusk vessel]

afaik its not just isg proto exo

freedom and mono also get 7 slots

[stark wyvern]

black market its your only way

[steep ibex]

cant i just disable the whole damn thing?

[stark wyvern]

you were able to just disable gamma economy back then but now it causes a non-fixable crash so unlucky

[steep ibex]

in 0.9.1 u were able to disable some crap and trade like normal

...

surely there is a way around this whole issue

[stark wyvern]

afaik there isnt a way

you can take the risk and disable gamma ecomony and see if the crash still happens

but i highly doubt that will actually work

[steep ibex]

hmmm

[stark wyvern]

just make sure to disable the BaS injection aswell

[steep ibex]

fuck, comeback to the updated game and nothing works

[celest sparrow]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/gamma-traders-sell-gunsoutfits there's also this

[steep ibex]

oh yeah

nice

thanks

[stark wyvern]

oh damn

didnt know that existed

[celest sparrow]

it's gonna be outdated by the next update due to how it is setup

[steep ibex]

x12 prices

daaang

does anyone know which mod added the BAR machinegun?

[latent turret]

black market exists

it still has the massive price increase but it exists

[steep ibex]

it seems convuluted and very confusing

[latent turret]

not rlly

[steep ibex]

i mean im confused, facts

[latent turret]

traders are either WP, NATO, or both, and they're tiered 1-3

[steep ibex]

where would i be able to buy any gun? like which trader is the closest to rookie village

[latent turret]

they buy weapons of their gun kind and each weapon is tiered 1-3 nato or wp

[steep ibex]

i see

[latent turret]

it does change non-gun and ammo trading

all you gotta do is read

[steep ibex]

yeah i saw 2 walls of text and i did read but its still confusing

[latent turret]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[steep ibex]

cant imagine how a casual player not familiar with stalker would feel

3 hrs of reading instructions and 30 of playtime

[latent turret]

thats like all of gamma

[steep ibex]

[latent turret]

are you lost?

[steep ibex]

nah just not sure where to find a trader that sells guns with black market

sidor doesnt have any guns

[latent turret]

trader rep still exists

[steep ibex]

so he will have guns later on?

[latent turret]

maybe

you still wont be able to buy anything for less than like 10k Ru

the prices are still massively inflated bc balance

[steep ibex]

thats fine i just want to have the option to

[latent turret]

you can get a vector lategame for like almost 100k iirc

[steep ibex]

hate missing out on guns just to find them after ive beaten the game

[stark wyvern]

a couple of traders like Sid will never sell guns no matter their supply level

[steep ibex]

oh

[steep ibex]

cheap

[stark wyvern]

tho that isnt really noticeable since basically all the traders above Garbage will sell guns

[celest sparrow]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message

[steep ibex]

this is dogshit

this means if i kill monoth, then auto agrro military as it happens, and kill some mercs i wont be able to buy over half the guns in the game

im just gonna grab that mod thanks

exactly what i meant, i would miss out on the ability to obtain half the guns in the game and just have to pray that i can find a gun that i dont have the time to look for anyway. aka im not spending 10 hours on hoping to get the gun i want

[latent turret]

skill issue?

[steep ibex]

nah i got other things to do

a casual player would flip his shit at the mere idea

[latent turret]

casual players dont rlly play gamma

vanilla anomaly exists for a reason if you wanna collect all the guns why not just play that

there are hundreds of other modpacks where you can buy guns

[steep ibex]

sorry to bother u so much but do u have any idea where i can find those weapons from the "juan/kmack" uve mentioned?

[grave pivot]

I play gamma casually :3

[steep ibex]

potentially for a reason

xD

[celest sparrow]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1100689401966755870 https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1333281107151683665

[steep ibex]

its not on the same level, the graphics etc, i tried to mod it way back, its good till it breaks

[grave pivot]

Idk when gaming is casual, but i just do stuff when i play Gamma

[steep ibex]

nice thanks

[grave pivot]

Today, im killing everyone in the Bandit Stronghold for the fun of it >:3c

[latent turret]

dont download an extremely techinical modpack and complain abt it being too technical then i guess

[green gyro]

thankfully gamma is completely modular

[grave pivot]

Oh, thats the non casual part? I see

[steep ibex]

yeah no clue, i just play it cause its like the next stalker game, and stalker 2 is very rough still

[green gyro]

and you can do whatever the fuck you want

[latent turret]

completely is a stretch but yes

[steep ibex]

would be great if it didnt break every minute. but yeah honestly its good, im not complaining just wish some things were more optional, like the black market and the ability to buy guns

[celest sparrow]

not completely
to the ability someone knows

[grave pivot]

Gamma did take a few days of doing stuff for me to download it. Since the way i see it, its a morbillion mods on a Game Engine based on a Game engine older than i am

[steep ibex]

one way or another gamma seems to be one persons vision for stalker, its their own version thats why modularity is key here. some ppl just wanna buy guns and not worry about it

[latent turret]

yes people create modpacks because they want the game to be a certain way, the G in gamma stands for "grok's"

you solved the great mystery

[steep ibex]

yeah my point exactly

no point in saying that im doing something wrong by wanting normal traders like in normal anomaly

[latent turret]

did i ever say that?

[steep ibex]

i thought u did

[rose musk]

you're the one frantically claiming you have other things to do, although those other things might be arguing with strangers on the internet so more power to you

[latent turret]

gammacord never changes

[steep ibex]

anyway for me gamma is an easier way to get a good solid modded anomaly without all the hastle, like looking for all the individual mods to get what i want in the game

[steep ibex]

im waiting on FWP to download, despite how this may appear i dont think i started any of the arguments here, im mostly replying

came here cause i had issues trying to make head or tails about some gamma stuff

[rose musk]

#🔨modded-gamma-support

is usually a more productive channel

[grave pivot]

What i love in Gamma is its scare factor, and how it can stretch the amount of hours you can go from start to end in each playthroughs

[steep ibex]

yeah they are busy solving actually technical issues i imagine

[grave pivot]

Its been 2 weeks, i think. And my 2nd playthrough isnt even remotely over yet

[steep ibex]

i like how it offers a variety of stuff that u can do and find. and i love the good old stalker immersion, gamma has that going pretty well

[steep ibex]

i honestly didnt finish a sigle gamma playthrough yet. ive put a lot of hours into it but never got far. everytime some thing got updated or broken before i could make it far. furthest ive made it was like radar, but im a really slow player when it comes to this though

ill waste hours just killing random shit for the fun of it instead of doing quests

[rose musk]

you don't have to update until after a playthrough if you choose

[steep ibex]

also ive heard the quest line gets kinda meh when u get up north

[stark wyvern]

it does

[green gyro]

gamma always used to make me anxious about progressing but im getting over that and being pretty quick now

[stark wyvern]

the best part its the south imo

[green gyro]

early game is the most fun

[steep ibex]

nah its always something, this time around half the mods arent up to date for the new gamma or the anomlay 1.5.3 and the UGP is definitely gonna be broken too. i played with it last

[rose musk]

what

[steep ibex]

hmm yeah but i didnt see that many quests down south, i remmeber having to go to army squads and i think fight off monolith but it was only like 3-5 quests before that so it feels like there is really no real questline here

[steep ibex]

does UGP work on new gamma? i honestly dont think so

[green gyro]

fwp is just ugp 2

isn't it?

[steep ibex]

but with half the guns

[green gyro]

unlucky

[rose musk]

sounds like a case of trying to add too much stuff that's not needed

[steep ibex]

yeah

[stark wyvern]

probably no, it got abandoned and doesnt have the patches for recent versions

[steep ibex]

well i like to have some random ass cool guns and shit in the game, not many other games offer u some wierd guns like that

[celest sparrow]

fwp is Frosty's own weapon pack

[steep ibex]

yeah thats what im thinking. it got dumped due to instability and then they made the more stable FWP

[grave pivot]

I wholeheartedly agree to this.

[rose musk]

self inflicted issue

[grave pivot]

You manage everything, every shot is calculated

It just hits the spot in stalker

[steep ibex]

o honestly agree, nothing like strugling with toz106 in the begining, something about that is just fun

[grave pivot]

In late game, you look at a random bandit and he gets vaporized like the Pompeii baby

[green gyro]

either that or you fight 30 people

[grave pivot]

Depends ig

[green gyro]

becomes a point and click adventure

[steep ibex]

nah late game is still fun but it definitely has its own challenges

[grave pivot]

Northern zone and you're in a house party with the Monolith.

Lower Zone and everything around you explodes if you look at them wrong

[steep ibex]

yeah well i tried to add the guns that i saw out there, but most of those mods are probably hopelessly outdated now

anyway i just thinking having more cool crap in the game is nice

[celest sparrow]

"It just hits the spot in Stalker"

It's always interesting how different the view of Stalker can be

[green gyro]

I treat gamma like a roguelike, what I get is what I get

[celest sparrow]

It's how it should be treated

[steep ibex]

nice, yeah im gonna try the soulslike this time around

[green gyro]

i would never tbh

[steep ibex]

so can i just grab ALL of the guns in the Juans delivery service?

or is that gonna cause issues?

[latent turret]

i might toss up a thread somewhere with my mega immersive collection, lots of stuff to make the early game more fun

[stark wyvern]

grab em all

have fun

[latent turret]

once the armor rework drops

not my mods just my collection

def need to do a full run with all of em on though, gotta get around to that

fatal error is an extremely nice addition though

[steep ibex]

yeah that how my last run ended

[latent turret]

no the mod

fatal error

pda rework

[steep ibex]

fatal error to the point of not being able to identify what causes the crash. GGs to the UGP and the whole 0.9.1 for me

[steep ibex]

i see

[latent turret]

surprisingly it fixes some later-game issues like having too much money all the time, new battery types for different devices, additional PDA tier that works with milspec PDA, a way to recharge batteries, all a bunch of nice stuff

[steep ibex]

nice

[latent turret]

also allows emissions/anomalies/gunfights to damage or break your devices, which ive always felt were too strong of a tool since you never lose access to them

youre never without your pda map even early game and you rarely replace batteries let alone run out

[steep ibex]

i see

thats cool but i felt like my headlamp was dying every minute

at the worst possible times too

[green gyro]

Can't relate, I have like 20 100% bats on me and shit never runs out

This mod sounds interesting

[latent turret]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1387494277218566454

imo it should definitely be added to the main list

you do need a few patches to make it work

[green gyro]

I hope it adds Tetris to my pda

[latent turret]

well like, 1, 2 if youre using pda reanimated

[latent turret]

it doesnt but it does work with immersive pda

so you can still play snake on it

it makes you spawn with a rlly shitty one that doesnt even have a taskboard, relations, or stats

then you buy your normal one and upgrade through 1-3 like normal, and after that theres milspec which does milspec stuff, and theres like 2 alternative pdas without a taskboard that are more damage resistent, so theres some player choice thrown in for fun

you can upgrade your pdas and devices to resist rads, electricity, and psy,
thats abt it

[steep ibex]

is immersive pda in base gamma?

[latent turret]

no

[steep ibex]

sheet

u can order guns with it, even without black market right?

[latent turret]

not with the gamma version

tweaked to balance it out so you cant do that

i dont use the buy feature anyways

[steep ibex]

can i get the normal version or is it not compatible?

[latent turret]

you can

[steep ibex]

ok good

[latent turret]

but youll ruin the progression

also you can pay like 100k for something and just get scammed

[steep ibex]

nah ive played enough stalker games to not worry about any of that crap ruining anything for me

yeah rememeber that, that shits funny

can i slap on the experience framework on gamma with no issues?

[celest sparrow]

yeah

[steep ibex]

nice

is there any other mods like it that are good?

or anything thats really worth adding to gamma

like i got the new levels for maps, exp framework, haruka skills

[vital nova]

It’s pretty good out of the box

[steep ibex]

well yeah but ive played it enough to want more

is there a good slow motion mod somewhere?

also can backpacks of the zone be added to 0.9.4 gamma?

[green gyro]

doesn't potz have bullet time or some shit?

never used it or even looked at it but heard people mention it

[stark wyvern]

yea it should be compatible

[steep ibex]

ill check that out if i find a link

[steep ibex]

nice

[green gyro]

painter of the zone in mod posting

[stark wyvern]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/bullet-time-3

or painter of the zone

[steep ibex]

oh sheet nice

[green gyro]

potz does other silly shit

[steep ibex]

which is better?

[steep ibex]

like what?

[stark wyvern]

it allows you to actually blow your opps head smoove off

[green gyro]

dismemberment and such

[stark wyvern]

in short it has gore

[green gyro]

shit off smoov

[steep ibex]

oh lol

[stark wyvern]

like those videos where a guy shoots a .50 cal at some dummy and the dummy's head just gets fucking evaporated

[steep ibex]

well lol i guess thats cool, but wont it cause issues with gamma?

sounds delicate

[stark wyvern]

i didnt hear of it causing issues

but i never used it myself

[steep ibex]

i see

ok is it better to play with unlimited stash sizes or not? performance wise is it better to have one big stash or a lot of smaller boxes?

[celest sparrow]

a lot of small boxes

[steep ibex]

smaller boxes does seem more appealing

[stark wyvern]

small boxes

[steep ibex]

oh nice

[stark wyvern]

having a big box will affect your performance

!65k / there's also this

[dawn marten]

@stark wyvern Anomaly has a limit of a total of 65535 objects (IDs) in the game. Whenever the game engine generates a new enemy with items, it tags the object ID number to the enemy unit and its items.
The same goes for traders & their items, every time you interact with the trader and visit a new place and kill an enemy and check their loot, you make the game engine generate ID numbers. If that ID number reaches 65535, the game crashes, and you won't be able to play anymore on that same game file, unless you "free" some IDs.
You can lower the amount of used IDs by letting items despawn or by selling/donating them at any trader.

[steep ibex]

buying all that crap seems like a lot of fun

[stark wyvern]

so dont hoard everything you see

[steep ibex]

yeah ive run into that issue last time

is there a mod to increase ammo stack sizes? that would help with IDs when u have 3k rounds stashed for each caliber

[stark wyvern]

negative

[steep ibex]

sheet

yeah i usually end up hoarding a lot of guns and ammo, but only the crap im trying to fix and use

hopefully that wont be an issue

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/interactive-pda-01 is this the latest version of interactive pda?

[stark wyvern]

yes

[steep ibex]

ok cool thanks

u used to be able to have a handgun i think in bino slot, thats gone now?

[stark wyvern]

yes, you can only put a knife there now

but you can still put pistols on your melee slot

[green gyro]

separate plugin, it's already in gamma in mo2 but disabled i think

[steep ibex]

oh but a gun in the knife slot? tricky

[steep ibex]

which plugin, and is it safe to activate it?

[green gyro]

pretty sure it's called pistols in vision slot and yea probably

[steep ibex]

dont think i wanna make my game unplayable again

thanks

[green gyro]

you can just disable it if anything goes wrong i imagine but it shouldn't

[hollow prawn]

anyone know where the RF Package in the Garbage Train Depot is supposed to spawn? The closest I can get is right next to the bed but I can't actually find it

[green gyro]

there's a cheat sheet if you want

!rf @hollow prawn

[dawn marten]

@hollow prawn Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[steep ibex]

um so its enabled by default but doesnt do anything? so should i just move it to the bottom of the modlist?

[green gyro]

idk

I enabled it but I don't remember if I ever tested it actually doing the thing

[steep ibex]

gotcha, yeah i wasnt able to put a gun there and it already enabled so ill toss it to the bottom of the modlist

[hollow prawn]

damn I'm just blind lol

[steep ibex]

well hopefully this works

appreciate all the help, thanks

[dusk vessel]

mp5sd on fmj with light armour and most of freedom is dead

[lavish delta]

I rarely use AP rounds ... I wish there was a moment i was forced to use AP rounds ...

[dusk vessel]

i brought around 600 rounds of fmj and 200 ap

didnt end up using any ap

[lavish delta]

Yeh, fmj does everything anyway, no point in having AP rounds

[dusk vessel]

also grenades

and meds

i didnt just run in lmao

the sandbags at the crossroad are really good cover

[stark wyvern]

AP rounds are the biggest lie in gamma

FMJ rounds are the best

[dusk vessel]

im using 9x19 is the funny part

hopefully armour rework also reworks how enemy armour is

[celest sparrow]

it won't

[dusk vessel]

unlucky

[lavish delta]

What if .... Enemies become bullet sponges like in fallout games...

[rose musk]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-gif-15687325833433865178

[dusk vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085656974676475947/1452161296148725840/togif.gif

no

[lavish delta]

Breh

I hope not

But again, AP rounds are meaningless as of now

[dusk vessel]

not meaningless

[lavish delta]

Too costly

[celest sparrow]

some people already think that

[dusk vessel]

just economically inferior

[dusk vessel]

they use a pm on an exo and wonder why he wont die

[lavish delta]

Although with ap rounds i sometimes 1 hit kill a few guys in full exos

[grave pivot]

Well that was fun

[lavish delta]

So for sniping perpose they are good

[dusk vessel]

i know

it does have a purpose

but if youre trying to build up cash

to buy recepies or kits

fmj is just far better

if youre loaded on cash you can go for ap and not care

[steep ibex]

How do I disable permanently loosing gear with souls like? But still drop my gear in a big on death

[stark wyvern]

afaik you cant, that's just apart of Soulslike

[steep ibex]

Hmm it says items have a chance to be lost permanently unless u u check them on the items page

But isn't that for a chance to drop the items if u die as well? So it's like all or nothing?

[stark wyvern]

zero idea tbh

i never did a Soulslike run

[steep ibex]

I have no Interest in permanently loosing anything like that. Does anyone know?

At the same time I don't mind dropping shit and loosing durability etc

[dusk vessel]

you mean how like it is in minecraft

except its dropped in a stash?

idk if that exists

[steep ibex]

No I mean like it's supposed to be, u drop shit on death BUT u don't loose anything permanently

So u can recover ur shit and it doesn't just go poof

[dusk vessel]

i feel like it would just get tedious

id rather load save

[celest sparrow]

it must have bugged for you, normally it drops a stash with your stuff

[steep ibex]

Yeah but I feel like trying it instead of loading saves

[dusk vessel]

lol

ive never played soulslike so i wouldnt know

[steep ibex]

No I haven't died yet I'm going to though the options

[celest sparrow]

Brother

[dusk vessel]

...

[steep ibex]

It says stuff has a chance to get lost permanently unless u uncheck the item type

[dusk vessel]

read what anon said just now

[dusk vessel]

^

it drops a stash

[steep ibex]

Yeah but there is a chance of permanent loss too, I'm trying to disable that permanent loss chance

[dusk vessel]

i think thats good

[lavish delta]

The B in GAMMA stands for bugs

[dusk vessel]

makes dying punishing

[steep ibex]

Lol

[dusk vessel]

the s in your name stands for smart

[steep ibex]

Yeah more like a save reload and a trip to ur bag to realize ur shit vaporized

[rose musk]

two karliks ran into an anomaly and killed themselves, MYM UTANT PARTS MAN

[lavish delta]

Are karliks like mini controllers?

[dusk vessel]

no

[steep ibex]

Burers

[dusk vessel]

gremlins who just put psy ghosts out

[lavish delta]

I saw 5-6 karliks attacking a pseudo giant

[stark wyvern]

they are like psysuckers but portable

[steep ibex]

Mini burers I think

Don't remember anynore

[dusk vessel]

theyre very easy to kill

[rose musk]

they drop really good parts tho

so i'm very sad

[dusk vessel]

meds sometimes

ive gotten adrenalin from some

[rose musk]

ah yes, the fracture fent lottery v2

[stark wyvern]

they can drop controller AND burer brains right?

[lavish delta]

I got confused cause one of them dropped a controller brain

[rose musk]

yup

[dusk vessel]

real

[stark wyvern]

i remember getting both on a karlik once, i killed fucking Albert Einstein

[dusk vessel]

with a smaller chance than the actual mutants im guessing

[steep ibex]

So wtf am I supposed to with souls like, if I uncheck dropping guns and armour wtf is the point? I'll just respawn at the sleeping bag with my shit on me

[dusk vessel]

its the same thing as just running to the stash no?

except youll have gear on your way there

back to fighting or whatever you were doing before you died idk

[steep ibex]

Oh wait I think I gotta buy a new brain I think that's exactly what the setting does. Uncheck and u got no item loss but shit drops into a bag....duh

[celest sparrow]

Have you tried playing without touching anything to get a good judgement of what you want to change

[dusk vessel]

mate...

[rose musk]

yes turning off the main point of soulslike makes it not soulslike

[steep ibex]

Yeah the pain is real

[dusk vessel]

its aight, happens

just, before asking things sometimes its worth just trying it first

[steep ibex]

No but I've played enough games to know to get rid of shit that's gonna ruin the game for me 50 hours in. 50 hours saved

[dusk vessel]

since that awnsers your question most of the time

at least it does for me

[steep ibex]

Nah I mean I think I misunderstood the description of the settings

It's fine now I think

[dusk vessel]

the main point of soulslike is that stuff gets lost when you "die"

[celest sparrow]

[steep ibex]

Nah the point is u gotta go get ur shit back when u die

So u have to have like a backup kit etc

Makes dying more fun than a save reload

[dusk vessel]

i have backup kits and im not even playing soulslike

(its just my old stuff i dont use anymore)

[lavish delta]

What do you think stalker gamma needs ....

[rose musk]

love when my arm does this

[dusk vessel]

a working HK416 with proper model and animation

[celest sparrow]

I honestly have come to dislike this so much

[steep ibex]

Lol

[dusk vessel]

now that we have the G3, an soon another new mp5 i want a hk416

then i have everything i could ask for

[stark wyvern]

mod included and enabled by default

[lavish delta]

What about boss type mutants

[celest sparrow]

Bosses are planned at some point

[dusk vessel]

sort of exists already

through specific quests

there is the one in garbage from barkeep

there is big game

[lavish delta]

So far i saw a big burer and a big pseudo giant

[dusk vessel]

there is black chimeras

there is bosses youve just not encountered them

[lavish delta]

Black chimeras can be found in the open world right?

[dusk vessel]

yes

[steep ibex]

So the chance to loose items is what, chance to drop it on death or loose permanently?

[dusk vessel]

theyre larger and more tanky

[steep ibex]

I'm confused

[celest sparrow]

Prometheus, Baba Yaga and Big Burer are the closest thing to boss encounters so far

[dusk vessel]

also in darkscape with the controller and zombies

ah yeah mirage

forgot about that one

goated cop quest

[steep ibex]

Sheet little help with understanding the sous like settings? I guess I'll try and find out

Anyway I'll go and find out what happens just hope I can make it work without permanent item loss aka I can still get my shit back by grabbing the bag

[hollow prawn]

This fuckass Dutyer really wants me, a Loner, to take him into a military checkpoint

[frigid gyro]

find duty suit ... from duty Guy ... preferebly dead
wear it
Profit?

[hollow prawn]

Eh, I’ll just use him for fodder in the swamps

About all those shmucks are good for apart from easy mutant money

[lost bridge]

Gahhh playing as military in IWP and there's barely any friendly bases to stop by in the north other than the ecologists bunker in Jupiter

Aso my stash is so fucking bloated. I gotta stop hoarding shit

[hollow wadi]

He hoards bullshit, point and laugh

[lost bridge]

Doesn't GAMMA have a mod where if you have companions, enemies from your own faction will be neutral because your companion is a friend of an enemy faction

[lost bridge]

RAAAAAAAHHH I FUCKING LOVE LOOTING 100 GUNS I WILL REPAIR AND NEVER USE

[hollow wadi]

Other way around, your companions will not attack their faction enemies because you're neutral/friendly to that faction

[lost bridge]

Ohh right that's how it worked actually

[hollow wadi]

Mushbrain splitlip

[lost bridge]

STOP CALLING ME THAT

[hollow wadi]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316312981267021825/959487673221918810/B6013500-2C6C-4645-9E53-8E1576F528CA-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.gif

[dusk vessel]

i sell my bullshit for 50 rubles like a good person

(i just dont want the lag)

[steep ibex]

what does stash overhaul no loot module do?

[hollow wadi]

Idk, who made it?

[steep ibex]

its in base gamma

[hollow wadi]

Okay but who made it

[steep ibex]

grok

[hollow wadi]

Time to open up its .script and .ltx files in Notepad++ or Visual Studio Code and start reading

[steep ibex]

?

[hollow wadi]

I'm urging you to read code :(

[dusk vessel]

pretty sure even default windows notepad can open .ltx

[steep ibex]

im not into coding

[dusk vessel]

you arent coding

[steep ibex]

so this kinda doesnt make sense

[dusk vessel]

just reading some lines

[steep ibex]

pffft

or maybe just try to get a stright answer where ppl probably know more about this?

[dusk vessel]

for example, i can change the base damage of a gun

by finding its ltx

[steep ibex]

good me too, doesnt mean i wanna go though each and every mods code just to find out what it does and whether i want it enabled or not

[dusk vessel]

i dont know shit about coding

just doing it with windows notepad

[hollow wadi]

I assure you, there's like 2 people on staff that actually read what these mods do

[dusk vessel]

replacing a 0.72 with a 0.76

like, its not complicated in this cases

[steep ibex]

does it make no loot spawn in stashes?

like is that the new 0.9.4 feature?

[hollow wadi]

So for 99% of the mods included in GAMMA, it'll just be "idk lol", from 99% of the server members

[steep ibex]

hmm i see

yeah its a wall of giberish

no clue what this really does...

[steep ibex]

yeah thats the file

[dusk vessel]

read it, its not difficult lol

[hollow wadi]

Then it doesn't really matter

[steep ibex]

hmm ok well i guess it doesnt do what i thought it does

i assumed it might just remove stashes altogether seeing as gamma goes hard for "u dont get shit" in general

[dusk vessel]

you can do this with a lot of mods btw

modifying or reading existing structure

[steep ibex]

i see didnt know it had a description in it

[dusk vessel]

not all mods do

[steep ibex]

ok, is it safe to reinstall the mod but apply different setting? mod in question is Item UI Improvements by Utjan

if im not mistaken its the mod thats responsible for showing item total uses count vs stack counts

and i want stacks

[dusk vessel]

some just look like this, but even then you can make out what it is through context

spawn rates of a rifle i think

[celest sparrow]

oh yeah? explain what it means

[dusk vessel]

look i dont have expierience with this stuff

[steep ibex]

makes sense, but i cant really apply the same logic to this mods issues since idk if it will break anything if i reinstall it

[dusk vessel]

im just winging it

[steep ibex]

no sweat appreciate the help

[celest sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/little-baby-man-snake-pointing-at-snake-baby-man-baby-gif-15385876761596974945

[dusk vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cannot-ragebait-me-you-cant-ragebait-me-you-cant-bait-me-ragebait-cat-gif-14310490768336433957

[hollow wadi]

No attachments, AP ammo

[dusk vessel]

ah good to know

[hollow wadi]

Or the other way around, FMJ ammo, some attachment

[steep ibex]

it looks like weapon weight modifiers for loot or something

[hollow wadi]

I dun remember

[dusk vessel]

i opened a random file and sent a screenshot so yeah

[steep ibex]

so is if ok to reinstall mod 336 but apply different settings to it or is that gonna break half the game

[celest sparrow]

nah you right

[dusk vessel]

how do these interact with eachother

i know its a weapons damage output

and i know changing them does change how the game is

which is neat

[steep ibex]

nvm 337 not 336

[hollow wadi]

Yeah ok, then it's weapon_name:attachment_score:ammo_score:weight_in_loot_table

[steep ibex]

i guess there is only 1 way to find out

[dusk vessel]

guess ill figure it out for myself

[celest sparrow]

impulse does nothing

[dusk vessel]

you sure?

because on the G3SG1 it was 35 impusle in the game files

i tested it on the same npc

[hollow wadi]

Doesn't it do ragdoll stuff, but only really works at higher values (like for 12.7x55 and 23mm)

[dusk vessel]

putting it to 85 took 1 less shot to kill

consistently

i tried it on the duty technician

[celest sparrow]

it does nothing on damage

[dusk vessel]

he tanks 5 fmj 7.62x51

[dusk vessel]

but it changed how many shots to kill..

with consistency, i tried multiple times

[hollow wadi]

Did you set the damage output in console to actually appear to see that you hit the same bone every time?

[celest sparrow]

AP Values
k_ap = k_ap / ( 1 + dist / 200 * ( air_res * 0.5 / ( 1 - air_res + 0.1 ))) * isg_res * silencer_boost * difficulty_multiplier[game_num] * invincible_mult * 0.80

Damage Value
shit.power = wpn_hit_power / ( 1 + dist / 200 * ( air_res * 0.5 / ( 1 - air_res + 0.1 ))) * k_hit * custom_bone_dmg_mult * custom_bone_ap_scale * 1.1 * sniper_bad_bone_shit_reduce * barrel_condition_corrected * sin_res * difficulty_multiplier[game_num] * ammo_mult * silencer_boost

Damage Value (Non-Pen)
shit.power = shit.power * custom_bone_hitfraction * math.random(25,100) / 1 (No HP Penetration Penalty)

[dusk vessel]

torso

upper torso

centre

[dusk vessel]

i was using the new g3 and testing stuff

was a little disappointed that its damage is lower than other 308 rifles

so went to ingame files and changed it to match another 308 rifle i found

and thatworked

[hollow wadi]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603537012825391105/1456695952608985214/attachment1-ezgif.com-crop.gif

When did we add a "g3"

[dusk vessel]

you didnt

not yet anyway

i was testing the new release of g3, its not in gamma yet

[celest sparrow]

It's in the #📎mods-added-for-next-build cemetery

[dusk vessel]

even if it wont be im using it for my game anyway

[hollow wadi]

Oh, another gun for the pile

[celest sparrow]

but yeah Impact has nothing to do with damage

[dusk vessel]

guess i got extremely lucky because i tested it several times, before he would go into prone after 4 shots, after he would die on the 4th shot

reloaded the quicksave multiple times and the result didnt differ

it shouldnt change the outcome but it did..

[thick sedge]

[dusk vessel]

im gonna try this now

[celest sparrow]

silly Dry thinks GBO was removed from the log remover

[hollow wadi]

I never used that printout so

[celest sparrow]

[dusk vessel]

alright nah

im shizoprhenic, time to take my meds

impulse does infact not do shit for damage

mustve gotten weird rng or did something else wrong, like distance or shot placement

[celest sparrow]

why do you think i sent the math to how it works

[dusk vessel]

changing hit power does work at least

[celest sparrow]

yeah due to being the weapon's base damage

[dusk vessel]

set it to 0.76 for all the G3s in the mod

is consistent with other 308s now

wait bruh now i see why the BRN-180 is broken

its a 5.56 rifle with 7.62x39 ammo

[hollow wadi]

On purpose

There are ENOUGH 5.56es

[rose musk]

there has been quite a few times I find a new rifle, get kind of excited. and it's another 5.56

[radiant sage]

Oops all 5.56

[dusk vessel]

you misunderstood

its got the base damage of a 5.56 rifle

while being a 7.62x39 rifle

i prefer it being a 7.62 rifle anyday

[hollow wadi]

Ah
Eh
Fix it then

[celest sparrow]

It's most likely handled by dltx

like any other change

[lost bridge]

5.56mm being mysteriously more common than 5.45mm or 7.62mm in Chernobyl

[celest sparrow]

Me when 16 ak variants

[hollow wadi]

Looking at S2, there are only 75 guns
Of which, there are 7 AKs
5 of which are uniques

[celest sparrow]

[dusk vessel]

but those few aks are very common to find

so it works out

[hollow wadi]

I assure you, Drowned is only found once

[dusk vessel]

ik

ive finished the game more than once

i always kept it anyway

fuck that guy

[hollow wadi]

Rude

[dusk vessel]

also kept gaffers gun

im not passing up a automatic 308 with a red dot

[steep ibex]

Lol

Do u guys know if there is a way to get gun condition back? Not just the parts

[dusk vessel]

bruh

day 3

[steep ibex]

Damn nice

[dusk vessel]

dw im dropping the coal and bedroll

[hollow wadi]

Scroll through #📢development and revert it

[steep ibex]

Hmm nice thanks

[dusk vessel]

i wont be able to use this

for another like, 3 days

just got advanced bruh

[steep ibex]

NVM I don't even understand what I'm looking at

[steep ibex]

Oh ur playing as isgn? Laaaame

[dusk vessel]

ive never played as isg

[steep ibex]

Oh ok

[dusk vessel]

or merc for that matter

[steep ibex]

I only played as loner

For story

[dusk vessel]

you can do the story as all loner neutral factions + merc after brain scorcher

[steep ibex]

That's day 3 in-game time?

[dusk vessel]

yeah

[steep ibex]

Very nice

[dusk vessel]

i dont sleep tho or skip time

[steep ibex]

What am I supposed to do with any of that? Or were u making fun of me?

[steep ibex]

That makes sense. I already died twice so I skipped a lot of time like that. Barely have shit

[dusk vessel]

there was a change to remove gun condition

its documented in the chat he linked

just have to find it

[steep ibex]

So what does that even do if I find it?

[dusk vessel]

dont worry about it

hobo phase is the most fun anyway

[steep ibex]

I'm not I'm having a blast just starting out with a pistol and a shorty double barrel

Shits intense

[hollow wadi]

That's legitimately the only way to see what was changed and what to revert

[steep ibex]

1st enemies insta one shorted me in the first encounter. 2 hobo zombies

[dusk vessel]

happens

[steep ibex]

Insta dead on training with wolf

[steep ibex]

I don't understand what any of that even means and what to even do if I find anything about the gun condition. Is that gonna be a setting I can change? Cause it really doesn't look like it

[hollow wadi]

Not a setting, but a file change
Or several file changes

[dusk vessel]

you can narrow it down

easily

problem is

if its not named that

it wont be there lmao

#📢development message

found this

dont think its what youre looking for though

[hollow wadi]

#📢development message this, more likely
The post above only removes the bar

[dusk vessel]

yeah makes sense

[steep ibex]

No idea what I'm supposed to do with that

[hollow wadi]

Change it back

[steep ibex]

By doing what

[dusk vessel]

click on the blue text

its a link to github

[hollow wadi]

Yeah, that

[steep ibex]

And what then?

[hollow wadi]

Learn what was changed

[dusk vessel]

and revert it

[hollow wadi]

Then change it back

[dusk vessel]

i much prefer having individual parts rather than just one condition bar

but you do you

[hollow wadi]

Besides, what's a condition bar gonna do

[dusk vessel]

would this even run on 0.9.4

[hollow wadi]

Repairing condition doesn't repair parts

[steep ibex]

It makes a lot more sense cause the parts don't represent all the gun pieces.

[dusk vessel]

it does say moving parts in and out of a gun makes it dirty

[steep ibex]

It says it's a part of gamma gun condition mod so can I just disable that?

[dusk vessel]

idk if there is anything to this though

[hollow wadi]

[hollow wadi]

Try it

[dusk vessel]

i keep my guns clean all the time, cleaning kits arent expensive..

[steep ibex]

Hmm better not broke my game

[hollow wadi]

If it crashes, simply re-enable the mod

[steep ibex]

If it has no condition then what does cleaning kit do

[dusk vessel]

yeah it wont break anything

just by enabling/disabling a mod in mo2

unless you load your save, save it, then change it

then its bricked probably

[steep ibex]

I'm more worried about it working just to find out it's gonna bork my save in 100 hours

[dusk vessel]

just keep the current system

its a good one imo

[hollow wadi]

Clean the gun parts??

That's what they're for

[steep ibex]

Oh u mean that I see

[dusk vessel]

the game even tells you when you should clean it

because it says "dirty barrel"

instead of "functional barrel"

[steep ibex]

Well that was there before removing of the condition I already miss the repair kits for the gun itself

[dusk vessel]

if everything is on functional your jam chance is basically 0

[steep ibex]

Also are the oil cleaning kits and stuff gonna be reenabled for the game since I added the gun condition or is that a separate mod

[rose musk]

right up until I peak a corner

[dusk vessel]

the 0.09% chance when im getting jumped by 5 chimeras

[hollow wadi]

-# Exceeeeept we accidentally also use WPO jam chance along with ours so it's higher than necessary

[dusk vessel]

oh

its doubled then

[hollow wadi]

Will be fixed soon™

[rose musk]

every time man, kill 10 guys 1 person left. turn the corner, jam, dead

[dusk vessel]

is there a temp fix i can do myself without breaking anything?

like in mcm

[hollow wadi]

Okay that's just highly unlucky
In my 40 days of GAMMA I jammed thrice

[dusk vessel]

i like wpo jam profanity

[hollow wadi]

No clue, I'm not a code monkey

[dusk vessel]

ive jammed a lot but only because i used a K98 with red parts except for barrel

that it fires at all is funny

[hollow wadi]

That's the thing, I do not ever use non-green part guns, no matter how much Grok wants you to do that

[dusk vessel]

i do it on day 1

when ive only got my starter gun

but tbf the mp5sd is a really good gun

next to no camera shake or recoil

just dont hold it down for too long

then it starts jumping

[steep ibex]

Nah I always repair my shit. It lasts longer and the if the parts condition is just above 60 u can make the part not repairable if u use it

[dusk vessel]

i wait until my armour gets close to 85% and then i use duct tape + cloth mask

puts it back to 100 or close to it

[steep ibex]

Well the gun condition is there but what do I repair with now, are the oil and spray kits still a thing?

[dusk vessel]

you would have to add them back manually

[steep ibex]

How do I do that?

Sheet dude they just had to make shit difficult

It was so nice the way they had it before this update. Was very fun hunting for repair kits and shit

[dusk vessel]

take a course on C language

[dusk vessel]

you still do though?

just different way

[rose musk]

the last attempts I had on invictus iirc it was 6/8 deaths were jam deaths

pre BS

[steep ibex]

Yeah seems like less items u can find now

[dusk vessel]

you find the parts needed for repair kits in stashes and on stalkers

[dusk vessel]

rest u buy

[rose musk]

now I just play I&H non ironman and it's pretty comfy

[dusk vessel]

nothing like going to darkscape and running over a bunch of people to get your starting gear

[steep ibex]

Lol

Nothing beats killing ur first bandits and the vehicle station at cordon

Oh sheeeet I see the gun oils and shit at the trader so I don't think I have to add anything back

NVM modularity at its peak

[dusk vessel]

so just turning it off on mo2 worked

[steep ibex]

[dusk vessel]

without having to start a new save

thats peak

[steep ibex]

Yeah that worked

Nice

[stuck sierra]

I don’t start at cordon

I start at Rostok

[dusk vessel]

nothing like spawning in prypiat and knifing a pseudogiant with a bayonet

[stuck sierra]

I don’t like cordon ngl

[dusk vessel]

after its wiped 10 of your monolith brothers

[rose musk]

I spawned in garbage and didn't leave that zone for 5 in-game days

[dusk vessel]

i like cordon, ive just been there too many times in various games

[steep ibex]

Nah starting at rostok is like skipping the beginning, ur already at the bar easy mode

[rose musk]

had to build my nest

[dusk vessel]

its a good place

train tunnel is nice

[stuck sierra]

All it does is saves me 2 loading screens

[steep ibex]

Lol

[stuck sierra]

[rose musk]

train tunnel had potential until I realized that squads will walk down it and gun me down

[dusk vessel]

i dont like the rostok loop

i play factions that are enemy to duty

[rose musk]

so I swapped to the little outside area of the hangar

[steep ibex]

Wait so random can be something like pripyat?

[rose musk]

two walls between me and most npc's

[dusk vessel]

i dont even have anything against them lmao

[stuck sierra]

Me neither but it’s really the only good place you have in the south beside dead city

[steep ibex]

Spawn in x 16 with a knife

[dusk vessel]

dark valley if you can

is really good

for money

if you dont care about your reputation that is lol

[steep ibex]

I always kill bandits in dark valley

[dusk vessel]

theyre excelent quest givers

[stuck sierra]

That is shooting yourself in the foot

[grave pivot]

I just wanted to collect a Stone Flower :(

[stuck sierra]

Because you miss out on yanov and Zaton later

[dusk vessel]

how do you miss out exactly

[stuck sierra]

Lots of loners in Zaton and Yanov

[dusk vessel]

okay, just kill them then

[stuck sierra]

And get half the traders aggroed on you

Yanov technicians are loners

[dusk vessel]

there is an ecologist nearby

although you cant upgrade him

[stuck sierra]

Not a technician

[dusk vessel]

ive been to zaton and cnpp as renegade

[dusk vessel]

he is

[stuck sierra]

He is?

[dusk vessel]

you just cant give him tools to improve his inventory

thats the difference

[stuck sierra]

You still miss out on 2 technicians

That you can upgrade

In yanov

[dusk vessel]

disguises work

[stuck sierra]

Disguises in this game are bad

[dusk vessel]

how so

[steep ibex]

is duty expansion worth enabling?

also which mod is responsible for adding spoiling to meat?

[dusk vessel]

rotten meat

[stuck sierra]

One high ranking stalker is all it takes for the whole station to start lighting you up

[dusk vessel]

its in mcm

i think

can just tick it off

[steep ibex]

why i cant find it in the Mo2

[thick sedge]

do I farm renegades and bandits at the southern parts as an ecologist early game

[steep ibex]

didnt see an off there

[stuck sierra]

Also if you accidentally killed a squad mate of one of those mongers in the past they will remember you

[dusk vessel]

increase the time to a year

or whatever the cap is

or just.. make a fridge

[steep ibex]

also what does economy no bas injection do, removes bas stuff from traders? aka i can disable that so the traders sell atleast bas stuff?

[dusk vessel]

like everyone else

[dusk vessel]

it keeps meat cooled and stops the timer

[steep ibex]

cap is 360 hours i think

[stuck sierra]

Rotten meat is a stupid mechanic

[thick sedge]

fridge any time

[dusk vessel]

ive never once had meat spoiled on me

not once

[steep ibex]

dont want to worry about food spoiling tbh, enough game pressure as is

[dusk vessel]

its not a worry

make a fridge

[stuck sierra]

What’s even the point if you need whole 10 metal scraps to fully disable it

[steep ibex]

nah its fine its just not for me

[grave pivot]

the humble fridge:

[steep ibex]

i totally get how that could be fun, i just dont want the extra pressure

[stuck sierra]

Yeah, that’s the thing

[dusk vessel]

it doesent spoil

[stuck sierra]

What’s the problem of adding it if it can be fully disabled so easily by crafting a fridge

[grave pivot]

early game difficulty

[steep ibex]

well u cant carry the fridge on u

[dusk vessel]

not fully disabled

[steep ibex]

i mean thats great but idk if im up for the extra management

[dusk vessel]

you need a toolkit to craft one

and also if you take it out the timer continues

[grave pivot]

add wheels on Fridge

[stuck sierra]

Basic tools are so hard to get 💔

[thick sedge]

the humble magazine mod havers

[dusk vessel]

irl meat doesent spoil that fast. dried meats are real foods

[steep ibex]

toolkits are like unicorns for me, probably dont exist

[grave pivot]

bootlick a few stalkers, you'll be fine

[steep ibex]

[dusk vessel]

yeah need to do a whole 7 taks

impossible even

[stuck sierra]

I was being sarcastic

[grave pivot]

same, mb

[dusk vessel]

the icon for a frozen meat looks good

so im keeping it

[steep ibex]

cool

how do i disable it?

[lethal patrol]

name doesnt check out

[dusk vessel]

not at all

im disappointed

[thick sedge]

why do you want to bring refrigerated meat in your travel anyway

[steep ibex]

what does 94 tactocool scopes do and why is it disabled by default?

[thick sedge]

cook plenty of them in your home for your travels

[dusk vessel]

honestly

it should be changed the meat spoil duration you find on dead stalkers

like, often times they will have cooked mutant meats

and those will be fresh most of the time

should be close to spoiling

[steep ibex]

who made the rotten meat mod

[thick sedge]

more immersion for 0.9.5

[dusk vessel]

higher ranking stalkers drop fresher meat

bandits always drop spoiled meat

type shit

[thick sedge]

that's now how it works...

[dusk vessel]

i wish but i dont have the time or knowledge to do it

[steep ibex]

is it safe to disable no bas injection?

[dusk vessel]

probably not

[lethal patrol]

stop trying to disable random shit lmao

[dusk vessel]

perhaps someone could share a copy of 3 yearold gamma with you

[steep ibex]

Nah I don't want that

I'm trying to adjust some things to my liking

Says modular in the name

[dusk vessel]

when i adjust things to my liking i enable things not disable

[lethal patrol]

!meat

[dawn marten]

@lethal patrol To disable the rotting meat feature:

• Disable the mod ilrathCXV's Meat Spoiling Timer in Tooltips
• Find the mod 349- Hideout Furniture Expansion - Maid & HarukaSai in MO2
• Right click -> Reinstall, make sure "Optional - Meat Spoiling Addon" is off
• Click "Install", then choose "Replace" when asked

[dusk vessel]

mostly

[lethal patrol]

heres your no rotting meat

[steep ibex]

Oh sheet nice thanks

[dusk vessel]

i feel bad for the person who typed that up

its such a non issue

[steep ibex]

Would I loose any cool furniture by doing that or only the spoiling?

[dusk vessel]

no

youre just reinstalling the mod but without the rotten meat

because the fridge is furniture

[steep ibex]

Nice

[lethal patrol]

fridge will just be another stash without the cooling feature

[dusk vessel]

can still put drinks and food in it

[steep ibex]

Well that or make it so that spoiling takes forever

[dusk vessel]

like, by the time this meat spoils

im in the cnpp

[steep ibex]

Like 360 is a bunch but also not enough as the upper limit

[dusk vessel]

not caring about some meat

[lethal patrol]

meat takes a long time to spoil though

[steep ibex]

I like to carry a bunch of meat on my companion for when I need a buff from like the well cooked once. Not interested in it going bad

[dusk vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085656974676475947/1452161296148725840/togif.gif

[steep ibex]

[lethal patrol]

for what purpose

[steep ibex]

What do u mean?

To buff

[dusk vessel]

meat doesent even weigh much

you gain hunger slowly

can even carry glucose shots for food

they dont weigh anything really

[steep ibex]

Yeah but the good meats have good buffalo for weight and stamina I think

[dusk vessel]

if you want purified lurker meat buff its not heavy

[lethal patrol]

so you also carry the red stove + kerosene + bunch of vodka to cook purified meat on the go

[dusk vessel]

0.2kg

[steep ibex]

I'm not worried about how much it weights I'm not interested in loosing a stack of them over them spoiling

[dusk vessel]

and a gas tank for spares

incase it breaks

and a whole workbench to make it

[steep ibex]

No I don't I cook some up

But yeah my companion had the stove oh him last time lol

[dusk vessel]

useful idiots name has never been truer

thats what the companions mod is called, incase you didnt know

[steep ibex]

Definitely useful

Any reason the companion mod is disabled by default?

Just don't want to enable something that will break the game

The companion carry weight mod

[green gyro]

balance

[dusk vessel]

look at the category name

[steep ibex]

Yeah that's what I'm wondering about

I used to use that mod before 9.4

That warning looks like it's for more than just balance

[dusk vessel]

will likely crash your game

or has been made obsolete by other mods

[thick sedge]

we have a brave one

[green gyro]

a brave one would turn it on without asking

[thick sedge]

and not send a crash report

[steep ibex]

Lol

Nah I'm not messing with that for now

Just spend my last cash on a repair kit to fix my leather jacket...

Can I not assign guns and stuff to the quick wheel anymore?

[dusk vessel]

gamma is like a jenga tower

the more you change the less stable it is

until it falls over and you gotta reinstall eventually

but if you know what youre doing you can do a lot

[steep ibex]

Yeah exactly why I'm asking so many questions on here

Is there any good questions mods that work well with gamma?

Or any other good mod recommendations to add to gamma?

[dusk vessel]

if youve got a good pc

you can download some graphics mods

[lethal patrol]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/g2x-tactical-light-preset-600-lm-range-max-100-m-eff-70-m-55006500-k

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/every-single-grain-rgb-psi-color-effects-controller-psi-dog-remover

[dusk vessel]

i dont care about these

except when they rarely just dont go away

ever

havent had it happen in a while tho

painter of the zone is cool

just disable the slow mo and killcams

[steep ibex]

Is it worth messing with the pay effect remover? Not sure if it's worth risking gamma stability over it but idk

Ian that a gore mod?

[dusk vessel]

kinda

yeah it is

if you headshot kill someone it explodes

not always tho

[steep ibex]

I see ok

Is Western goods good?

[dusk vessel]

also new blood particles when you shoot someone, and blood puddles

got fallout style killcam but i disabled it

[steep ibex]

Nice

I went with regular bullet time mod for now.

[glass hinge]

j

[thick sedge]

that's why you add blocks instead of pulling them out

[wheat leaf]

The reason why they tell you not to enable any of those mods in MO2 is because the files from them would fuck with integrations made in some of the GAMMA-specific mods, which are basically conglomerations of most of the disabled mods you see but edited to work together with everything else/to have Grok's intended values for GAMMA. They only exist to have the baseline files that the GAMMA edits require to... edit.

[dusk vessel]

if you add blocks it tends to cause imbalance though

if you stack it too high it falls over on its own

[wheat leaf]

The introduction of DLTX did make it a lot easier to add blocks to the jenga tower, but there's no promising that the blocks will play nicely with any OTHER blocks that you try to add after that, or any that were already there.

[dusk vessel]

most of the blocks arent even surfaces

that you add

while the existing ones are stable (for me at least)

i very rarely get crashes. compared to 1 year ago 0.9.3 its wayy better now for me

AVX to thank partially

[wheat leaf]

I would say that GAMMA is a jenga tower that's been glued together, and trying to remove any of the blocks basically requires you to knock the whole damn thing down.

[dusk vessel]

back then i used to get a 50/50 on if it would crash on loading

now its a 1/20 chance

despite not running default list too

[wheat leaf]

The main instability for GAMMA for me personally is just Busyhands, which can be reduced by not spamming actions.

[dusk vessel]

i dont get busyhands

but then again i dont spamhotkeys

its useless anyway

you press it once and just have to wait

it has a system to que up actions

[wheat leaf]

Panicking and fat-fingering multiple F-keys trying to heal, or multiple numbers trying to swap weapons, can sometimes be all it takes.

[dusk vessel]

panick makes situations way worse

[wheat leaf]

Panic is a natural human response.

[dusk vessel]

i tend to just press F1 to get a military stimpak as im dodging