╓☢stalker-chat

[oblique reef]

It's only a model/texture change for the base pistols, and a gun injection into NPC loadouts for the new ones like the M45 and Colt Anarchy so yeah. It kinda breaks guns like the Colt Aries though

[quasi lance]

I just ran my previous save just fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[versed badge]

What will happen to my Colt Aries?

[oblique reef]

The sprint anims kinda broken but otherwise it works fine

[versed badge]

thats fine i guess, as soon as I get one of the new Colt models it will be replaced anyway. But there wont be any new spawned Colt Aries´s right?

[lethal steeple]

the colt aries is literally the regular 1911 but with another name with the gunslinger pistols

[oblique reef]

Colt Aries doesn't spawn at all, it's only in the starting loadouts. Meowie also changed the non-glow sight pistols (which are also in the base loadouts)

[lethal steeple]

like

literally no change at all

other than the name

[oblique reef]

Iz got tritium sights

[lethal steeple]

but gmtop guy decided to give its own name

[versed badge]

I think the normal colt doesnt accept silencers

[lethal steeple]

the regular one also has tritium

[oblique reef]

Can't wait for the USP change

[unreal jungle]

Anyone else has lower fps when looking at trees after latest update or it's just me?

I used to have 70-80 fps most of the time. Now it's 50-65

[versed badge]

One of the STI 2011 models would be a good addition aswell

On the other hand, I cannot imagine that super modern/custom weapons like the SVI, Type 20, DVL-10 etc. could ever get into the zone in a real world setting

[lethal steeple]

why not

[oblique reef]

The Zone's already home to some weird guns

[crystal fiber]

The "there is no way such a gun would be in the zone" argument

[lethal steeple]

watch as the argument is that it's rural ukraine so everyone must have only makarovs and aks

[versed badge]

I could imagine some western mercenary troops importing their custom rifles/handguns, but on available platforms.

Like, how the heck does a Type 20, a japanese service rifle, land in the zone?

[oblique reef]

I've gotten that feeling before but then realize that there are people who've rechamber the Bizon to 7.62x33 and the Desert Eagle to 9x39 so nothing's off the table

[oblique reef]

Japanese UNISG troopers bringing em in perhaps

But the real answer is just Grok wants the gun so the gun gets in

[versed badge]

More weapons are always welcome

[crystal fiber]

MG42

[versed badge]

But I would rather have some weapons be "modification kits" instead of being able to be found

[lethal steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-paw-simpsons-wish-gif-22682473

but every weapon added plays exactly the same as the rest

[versed badge]

F.e. the AK-74m beard or PMC

[lethal steeple]

and it's only a model change

[versed badge]

Aesthetics

[oblique reef]

AK-74N and AK-74M

[valid robin]

i think that anyone doing the "x y z cant exist in the zone" is kinda missing the point of magic tacticool radiation zone just say it fell out of a portal to another plane of existence where everyone is a weird rifle configuration that would be weird to find in 20xx Ukraine who cares

[lethal steeple]

bro missed the entire point of the setting

and the convo

[versed badge]

The one is plastic, the other emergency kindle

but both good

[versed badge]

finally a good use of the 7,97 i get from bandits

[oblique reef]

I added the Gewehr 43, MG42 and StG-44 just so that 7.92 isn't stuck with the Forester and Kar

[versed badge]

The forester?

[last mesa]

Hi*lers buzzsaw? Nice!

[oblique reef]

The modernized Kar98

[last mesa]

That thing must be a damn good one

[versed badge]

oh yeah that thing

[versed badge]

as soon as MG42 is added, there should be work on working bipods

[grave fiber]

My PM invictus has made some progress, lets pray it continues this way

[crystal fiber]

Where is PM?

[grave fiber]

Switched out after 1 hr

pm start I guess I frased myself bad

[clear wren]

is there a setting or a mod that makes stuff to pass the time not get eaten by the player upon usage

[stark wyvern]

"The first thing a blind man does after being able to see its they throw away the cane that has helped them their whole life" or smt

[grave fiber]

hey anything but PM

[severe veldt]

Remember his name

[solar chasm]

Weirdo weeaboo merc

Ksg23 seems to really pair well with an ap smg and a sniper for late game

Well all the top tier shotguns do

And even the mid tier ones i guess

[celest sparrow]

I have to check that out

[oblique reef]

KSG23 with Barrikada

[solar chasm]

But an 11 round mag 23x75 shooter with a laser sounds pretty nice

[celest sparrow]

Laser

How's the Accuracy value on it

[lusty vector]

Does anyone have a pic of the KSG 23?

[solar chasm]

Base dispersion is 0.51

[sick yoke]

really said "the ks23 is good but held back by low capacity" then went "so we're adding the ks23, but with 11 rounds now"

[oblique reef]

#╓☢stalker-chat message

[solar chasm]

I mean, it's also held back by RoF

[sick yoke]

truly the funniest

[rose musk]

removal of the UDP from merc start is actually catastrophic

[solar chasm]

The ks23 is only a type b gun

[oblique reef]

Wait fr? Better add it back to my loadout mod

[lusty vector]

Thx

[humble shoal]

based , id delete all smgs from starting loadouts on survalist

[rose musk]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-iron-man-who-asked-who-asked-meme-meme-gif-24590276

[oblique reef]

Drunk had a good idea by making SMGs to be more expensive and bolt actions cheaper

[celest sparrow]

I need to check out the .45 HS

[normal island]

Just delete all bolt actions man

[solar chasm]

Technically the udp is a pistol caliber carbine

[humble shoal]

except kiparis ofcourse

[normal island]

There's nothing to make them worthwhile

[sick yoke]

i don't even think it's held back by rpm when the ks23 is already deleting most mutants in 1/2 shots

[celest sparrow]

God I don't want to do GBO math

[quasi lance]

is there a keybind to hide the minimap ?

mine's gone

[oblique reef]

!hud

[dawn marten]

@quasi lance
Can't see the HUD anymore (ammo counter, PSY bar and mini-map are missing)?

• Press Numpad Enter if you can't see it at all.
• If you have a TKL keyboard without Numpad - go to Settings > Video > UI/HUD, turn on HUD: show
• Or press H if you can see something but not everything.

Only the mini-map is missing?

• Press /

Missing health system (BHS) interface?

• Press H

Can't see weapons or devices when you equip them?

• Go to Settings > Visual > UI/HUD, turn on Show Weapon

[sick yoke]

worse than 5.45 hp now

guarantee it

[celest sparrow]

I hope so

It's stupid for it to be better than small rifle calibers

[oblique reef]

Would an AR be able to cover all the bases with every ammo type now?

[celest sparrow]

inb4 but it makes sense cause it is realistic!

[quasi lance]

thanks

[solar chasm]

Well, late game there's options that will kill 2 chimeras before they get to leap at you (assuming you have LoS of them from outside leap distance) and the ks23 will not do that

[nimble ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[solar chasm]

Even if it can 2 shot the chimeras

[celest sparrow]

If you want the most effective option

[sick yoke]

164% damage mod

[oblique reef]

I wonder if it's a good thing that it's able to be so versatile, some weapons would suck if it weren't for the ammo carrying it cough cough 1911

[sick yoke]

so either 1% worse than 5.45 hp or 4% better than 5.45 hp i forget

[celest sparrow]

Yeah I saw, went from like 189% down to 164%

Well I can't read shit well since I'm on my phone

I'll get on soon and do some math to get a good comparison

I still don't fully understand Mutant GBO though

[sick yoke]

still does slightly more damage than 5.45 hp in total

cause .45 guns have 56 or 58 and 5.45 has 50

honestly idk i think it's fine that .45 does more damage to mutants

considering the fact that the fmj is hyper shit and there's no ap to make it even remotely comparable against stalkers

[versed badge]

How difficult is it to take down the Helicopter for Lukash with just a VSS and grilled snork hand?

[oblique reef]

love artigrok for throwing ammo balance out the window

[humble shoal]

its not worth to dothis quests unless you have a bomb and disguise

[last mesa]

Game looks gorgeus even on DX8 if you can tweak it right

[versed badge]

i think theyre fun, there should be more quests with an objective other than "fetch me this" "kill this stalker and his friends" "kill these dogs"

[humble shoal]

i agree , but the problem with those new quests that rewards are just not worth it most cases

like this quest for lukash is not even paying ammo that you use back

[oblique reef]

45 FPS

[versed badge]

why is AK-103 D rank now? Isnt it like one of the worst 7.62 guns?

[last mesa]

Also seriously? WHY IS STILL IN THE GAME SINCE 0.9.1!?

[oblique reef]

Always has been, it's technically better than the AKMS cuz it's got less recoil

[humble shoal]

no one knows , this is not even good for c tier

[last mesa]

(No. His head was not blown off.)

[wild harbor]

i keep getting these good guns and i just started in the swamp. is my game glitched.

[celest sparrow]

no, those are just renegades

[last mesa]

No. You're just lucky

[oblique reef]

Renegades LOVE the DVL

[versed badge]

I only took it with me cuz I didnt have a 7.62 AK yet, I dont think I can buy or craft D rank repair kits without expert tools right?

[wild harbor]

im getting very good guns like th rpk in good condition @last mesa

[oblique reef]

Yeah you're not gonna fix it any time soon

By the time you do get expert you'll have better guns already

[rose musk]

2 trainee renegades both with DVL in the south

[last mesa]

One more thing. How the hell did these doggos manage to take down 4 Jumpers is beyond my comprehension

[rose musk]

name a better combo

[last mesa]

Luck is on your side I guess

[humble shoal]

the only reason why you want to use it is if you get it with green barrel early on

but again , there are better options in C tier than this

[wild harbor]

the only thing wrong is the saiga sights dont line up

[versed badge]

Sad that the best 7.62x39 weapons arent even real AKs, wish there would be mod kits for AK-103 like the AK-105 has

[humble shoal]

also i dont know why people even think .45 hydrashock is an issue in gamma

like its not even in top 10 issues with mutants in this game

[last mesa]

That is not my problem. If you are running base Gamma just ask in #🔨base-gamma-support

[oblique reef]

Maybe try out the hud editor

[wild harbor]

yah i know hahahah

[last mesa]

Good luck!

[wild harbor]

thanks bro

[versed badge]

cant really make an armor piercing .45, its physically impossible to make it on par with other handgun bullets in terms of armor piercing capabilites

[last mesa]

Too thicc

[versed badge]

too thicc, too slow

[last mesa]

And innately subsonic

Yup

[sick yoke]

i mean ingame

[versed badge]

tbh I dont think every caliber should be versatile

If you want to kill mutants, take a Colt or a coonan. Kill stalkers, take a 5-7. Want a gun that can do both but shitier, go with 9x19

[graceful fulcrum]

or just use a shotgun for everything

[versed badge]

or just use a shotgun for everything

[solar chasm]

Cqc oriented 5.45 guns have been able to do this for a while

[celest sparrow]

Ignore these Reference

[quasi lance]

damn, the 9A-91 aint half bad

[last mesa]

Cozy af :3

[quasi lance]

:3
Where's this cozy abode ?

[solar chasm]

Aks74u tactical, duty kit ak105, mono ak12 with kit and groza storm/dolg are all great anti-everything cqc options

[celest sparrow]

My issue is that absolutely no one is considering the use of 5.45 / 5.56 HP

[quasi lance]

9A-91 is too

[solar chasm]

Shooting mutants with 9x39....

[last mesa]

Built it myself at the end of Jupiter underground, by the Outskirts ladder :3

[quasi lance]

no
Dutyers
tho, shooting dogs is basically the same

[last mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-up-then-down-excuse-me-uhhh-what-the-heck-scared-of-you-gif-675755946193480599

[quasi lance]

ooh
I'll check it out :3

[celest sparrow]

Like I can see 9x21 and 5.7 being great, cheaper alternatives to Rifle calibers against Stalkers, but they aren't superior to their counterparts to fully replace their use

[solar chasm]

The point is that 5.45 has good hp's, so full auto increased mag capacity Ak's are good vs both humans and mutants

[last mesa]

Meanwhile me

[solar chasm]

I mean 5.56 hp is kinda dooky

[celest sparrow]

But .45 HS is HIGHLY superior than both 5.45 / 5.56 HP, it is cheap to maintain compared to Rifle calibers while being able to save up on a Main slot

[last mesa]

Agreed

[sick yoke]

it was actually only a few damage points higher

[quasi lance]

me using slugs against everything

[solar chasm]

All true, but not great at reaching out to longer ranges to deal with things from safer distances later game

[celest sparrow]

Yeah, there really isn't a reason to use it when 5.56 is the high AP counterpart of 5.45

[solar chasm]

Unless you take up a main slot with it

[last mesa]

Seriously? XD

[sick yoke]

5.56 hp and 9x19 hp fighting for the exact same damage: lol

[solar chasm]

Yuuup

[sick yoke]

5.45 hp is good

[quasi lance]

yeah :v
slugs make people go weeeee

[sick yoke]

people just don't use it because .45 hydro has just been ingrained as "best anti mutant"

even if/when it's not

[last mesa]

Have you tried Barrikada shells? XD

[solar chasm]

I mean, it is, but it's not exactly flexible

[quasi lance]

yeah lmfao
just looted a chimera hunter >:3

[lethal steeple]

the thing is that it's less efficient than 9x19/18 hp and you can't use 5.56/5.45 in one hand

[last mesa]

If slugs make people go weeeeee then barrikada shells make people go WOOOOOOOOO

XD

[lethal steeple]

that's why hydra still is considered the best

despite 9x19/18hp being more efficient in every way imagineable except raw damage

[solar chasm]

I mean, it should be the best because it is the specialised anti-mutant round

[lethal steeple]

people see the flesh damage rating "stat" and get neuron activation

[last mesa]

Also makes use of the thousands of pistol ammo parts gathering dust in my stash lol

[quasi lance]

my brain when funny ppl ragdol

[last mesa]

I'd say pistol calibers overall are good for southern areas, or for mutants at high rate of fire, otherwise I'd prefer a rifle/ auto shotty/ sniper

I will not be assed to take down a pseudogiant with a pistol. No thanks

[solar chasm]

Personally i make the pp2k 1 handed but nerf its mag size to 20 rounds and like that in the pistol slot

[last mesa]

PP2000 is not a one handed gun?

Huh. The more you know

[solar chasm]

Nope, no 19mm smgs are by default

[last mesa]

Not even the MP9?

Dayum

[sick yoke]

it's just the ap smgs

[last mesa]

P90, SR2M, MP7 and pistols I guess then?

[daring crown]

yes

[solar chasm]

I made the skorpion, kiparis and pp2k 1 handed. Only nerfed the pp2k's mag size. Mp9 is too good to be balanced 1 handed imo

[rose musk]

not sure i've ever shot a single shot of that otuside of like day 1/2 dire scenario

[solar chasm]

I use 5.45 guns for anti-mutant role a lot in the late game

Is very nice

[daring crown]

only if the gun is nice to run overall

ak pmc

or ak12 does really well

and the an94 ig too

[solar chasm]

Well yeah

[quasi lance]

just found a mk14 ebr with a green barrel

mweheheheheh

[solar chasm]

Aks74u tac, duty kit 105, mono kit ak12 and groza storm are the 4 guns i consider good for the role i want

[daring crown]

mono ak12 was removed from default gamma

[solar chasm]

Could also do the rpk12

[daring crown]

105 is expensive for what it is

[solar chasm]

Running a weapon pack i take it?

[daring crown]

rpk 12 is nice in both mag configs

[solar chasm]

Oh, huh

[daring crown]

you can buy the kit but it's useless

the gun doesn't drop

[celest sparrow]

shit.power .45HS Pre-Nerf: 2.99343612
shit.power .45HS Nerf: 2.83770823

Which is like oh wow
The HP ammo is effective against the naked stalker

Now I have to check Mutants

[last mesa]

Is it a big change?

[celest sparrow]

it's like 16 Damage loss

[daring crown]

i can preach 545 hp now

[celest sparrow]

But this is against a Stalker without Armor hitting a Headshot so HP will always be effective in that case

[last mesa]

Ah. So barely noticeable unless trying to kill the Pseudogiant with the Fraiser

[celest sparrow]

READ

[daring crown]

don't they cost roughly the same from butcher?

[last mesa]

Oh! XD

[celest sparrow]

Like let me give the shit_power of 9x19

[quasi lance]

frosty's

ugliest Mk14 ever

b u t

its a mk14

[solar chasm]

Might be base game mk14

Screenshot it?

[celest sparrow]

shit.power MP5 9x19 HP
2.01378022

Like yeah it's still a lot of Damage just becasue it is HP Ammo

Not going to like doing Mutant GBO cause the print doesn't give off Distance

I should see if I can edit that in myself sometime later

I just don't really understand the lack of k_hit in the math

So like, wouldn't that mean that only Weapon Damage and the Ammo Multiplier set in the GBO matter and not the DMG Multiplier of the Caliber itself?

Unless it is handled somewhere else then idfk

Maybe shit.power is the math of weapon_hit_power * k_hit?

[quasi lance]

left it on my stash -w-

it has a wierd body kit

its tan

bulky as shit

huh

9x39 is surprisingly efficient against mutants

[jolly raven]

How do I see what the stats will be on a piece of armor after I fix it? So I know if it is better than my current armor when I look.

Loot

[celest sparrow]

Hold CTRL then hover on the armor

[solar chasm]

Well vs stalkers there's line 873 which calcs s_hit from weapon hit power and k_hit... but you're right i can't find it for mutants

[celest sparrow]

Yeah it has to be somewhere else and I'm dumb

I am dumb

[pseudo lynx]

anyone else's stats UIs broken after the new update?

I dont have percentages for my resistances in inventory and my armor percentages are super messed up

[celest sparrow]

Okay I somewhat understand it now (?)

[quasi lance]

is there a way to make nvg's less blurry ?

[rose musk]

there's a fix mod floating around somewhere

well

"fix"

[solar chasm]

I don't. I see where it gets it in the vs stalker calc, but idk where it's pulling s_hit from initially for the mutant calc

[quasi lance]

what da snork doin

[quasi lance]

any idea where I can find that ?

[keen bronze]

Maybe in here #1035807043933720576 but I'm not even sure about it

[rose musk]

I downloaded one like a month ago

but no clue where to find it now it's buried DEEP

[keen bronze]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1133074169723101214

This?

[celest sparrow]

shit.power .45 HS Pre Nerf (Chimera Headshot)
20.98373996
shit.power .45 HS Nerf (Chimera Headshot)
19.89210031

shit.power 9x19 HP (Chimera Headshot)
14.04722464
shit.power 7.62x25 LRNPC (Chimera Headshot)
12.50152976
shit.power 5.45 HP (Chimera Headshot)
17.87471365

[radiant star]

shit.power

[rose musk]

real

[last mesa]

It is

[celest sparrow]

If I understood this correctly
shit.power = k_hit * hit_power
So it would be 1.64 (.45 HS) * 55 (Base DMG Colt 1911) = 90.2

Then goes through GBO Math for shit.power
90.2 / ( 1 + 2 / 200 * ( .82 * 0.5 / ( 1 - .82 +0.1 ))) * .85 * 1 * .75 * 2 * 1 * 1 * 0.9 = 102.01077085

Which it goes through the engine sided modifier
Chimeras have:
Head Hitbox has 1.95x
Hit Fraction is 0.2x
Bullet Damage is 0.5x
So it would be
1.95 * 0.2 * .5 = 0.195

So it goes 102.01077085 * 0.195 = 19.89210031 shit.power

[last mesa]

But probably due to the high RPM nature of the 9x39 guns

[celest sparrow]

This is IF I understood how it works cause I could be wrong and stupid

[last mesa]

But good luck trying to kill a black chimera/ pseudogiant with it.

[celest sparrow]

But yeah the Nerf did fuckall

[last mesa]

I tried killing one while my companions kept smacking it with the buttstocks of their guns as I unloaded around 45 SP-5 rounds into it's ass, because it's head was covered xD

[rose musk]

shit.power is iconic

[celest sparrow]

is short for scripted hit power

but it is funny

[last mesa]

Bet they loved that short xD

[lethal steeple]

ye

[celest sparrow]

Ok so my math is most likely correct

[unkempt wing]

anybody having this same ghosting as me and know how to fix it?

[celest sparrow]

[lethal steeple]

the mutant side of gbo isn't fully hijacked

it still goes through the engine

that's why you don't see things like shit.power = 0

or shit.power = weapon_hit_power * k_hit

since it's already set up

[sick yoke]

i mean

[celest sparrow]

The slight nerf do be slight

[sick yoke]

did you expect the nerf to like

kill hydroshock or something lol

[celest sparrow]

I want it dead.

[celest sparrow]

But this is barely impactful

[unreal river]

it won't remove ghosting but probably fixes it a lot more

[quasi lance]

huh

[unreal river]

try these too #1279805292472832101 message

[quasi lance]

the russian nvg optic

is not bad

[celest sparrow]

It's whatever, I got to learn how math works when it comes to Mutants

[sick yoke]

i mean yeah it went from like, 174% to 164%

it's not a big change

[celest sparrow]

My dream of .45 HS Nerf will come true one day

[sick yoke]

it never was going to be a ".45 hydro is unusable" nerf

because it'd be stupid

[celest sparrow]

Nah fam

Kill

[lethal steeple]

it's a 5.21% damage reduction

[sick yoke]

oh 173% to 164%

[celest sparrow]

the Base Damage of .45ACP Weapons is a big contributor to be honest
and 7.62x25 LRNPC still sucks

[sick yoke]

lrnpc is a meme

it's like, slightly cheaper than 9x19 (and higher stack size) for less damage (everyone will swear it does more)

[celest sparrow]

People overhype the fuck out of it

[sick yoke]

the ppsh and pst carry 7.62x25 honestly

[celest sparrow]

Well there's like 2 Weapons with 7.62x25

3 if you count the PP Bizon conversion but that sucks

[unkempt wing]

this kinda helped but still

the problem persists

thanks

[celest sparrow]

PPSH is the only weapon that compensates for 7.62x25s poor performance thanks to its high RPM

[unkempt wing]

@unreal river im also having this weird problem here, maybe you know a fix?

[celest sparrow]

So .45 HS remains king, as to be expected

[unreal river]

I haven't ran into that issue yet

not sure really

[unreal river]

Yea once you see ghosting it's gonna always stay

best you can do is try using the blur option to reduce how much you can see when moving around tbh

[unkempt wing]

fuck, it seems like my ghosting is by far the worst reported, maybe i should try reinstalling?

[celest sparrow]

@frank oxide look at the funny math I did

[unreal river]

you can try reinstalling the sss 23 yea

[unkempt wing]

i only updated the game via launcher, no fresh install

[unreal river]

since I updated my sss23 manually and the exes manually I just did what the github told me to do for fresh exes

Delete everything in your db\mods folder, then back out, go to gamedata, configs, remove all but the configs folder, then go into configs folder, delete everything besides cache.dbg and axr_options

then download the latest exes and put them in, should add this modded_exes gamedata

but I recommend backing up your db folder and other folder in case it doesn't work for some reason

https://github.com/themrdemonized/xray-monolith/releases

Idk if it'll fix anything or not but my game doesn't ghost crazy like yours does

[unkempt wing]

ill try, i just hope i dont lose my saves in the process

thank you

[unreal river]

just be sure to backup your folders in case and just revert the changes etc if it doesn't fix anything

[unreal jungle]

I've noticed that moving ambient occlusion slider in SSS settings from 1 to 0.5 or 0.25 gives decent performance boost, but idk if it has any noticeable visual difference

[blissful ivy]

now ok, so how the fuck does one put together an sks as easily as our stalkers do?

im just noticing this

but putting an sks together is a bitch ngl, an ak is easy, sks? not so much

[unreal river]

Because AO is put onto everything within the radius you set it to within sss

1 resolution for first image, 0.5 for second

you could probably get more fps by tweaking the quality and max distance and max occlusion probably

[solar chasm]

No it isn't. effective on a ttk/rounds to kill basis sure, efficient it is not.

9x39 is very expensive for the damage it deals to mutants

[solar chasm]

Sure, that's kinda my assumption too, but i don't like assumptions and don't see where that is happening in the actual code

Okay it's being pulled from vanilla engine calcs

So it's not gonna show up in code

[solar chasm]

Nerf prolly only made any difference for especially tanky stuff or on stuff you tend yo bodyshot more than headshot

So giants, chimeras, bloodsuckers, snorks sometimes

[lethal steeple]

idk tbh like it's just 5.21%

it's gonna be a one bullet difference in some specific cases

otherwise just the same

you're not sniping with hydra either

[solar chasm]

Yeah

[celest sparrow]

It's not noticeable difference

[solar chasm]

Basically i'm saying it -might- mean the difference between getting hit or not if you're say, using a .45 pistol against a bloodsucker or multiple snorks

[celest sparrow]

[solar chasm]

But very marginal effect overall

[sinful osprey]

I've lost two ironman lives today alone bruh
I cannot lock in apparently

and there's the third
I was not even remotely on my shit today

[green shale]

for the record this is the vanilla engine dmg calc https://pastebin.com/raw/spv4YzaZ

it's in a comment in... some config or the other from unpacked case files

[clear wren]

is there a way to fix the issue where the sound of rain is gone when you respawn or load into a new area

[solar chasm]

That's like when i get greedy doing immediate army warehouses dips on game start as duty

So many ways to die doing that

[sinful osprey]

wasn't even that though I was duty
first death was a bloodsucker jumpscare in the middle of great swamps in the middle of the day. I just wasn't expecting one to be there, that's me trusting swamps too much. Command grabbed me and just swiped to finish me off

the second and third were me completely failing to lock in in Cordon
just two boars with nothing to climb and I missed the first dodge which crippled me for the second one to finish me off
and a squad of 3 Freedom at the grain elevator. Pushed up too close when I didn't see or hear any bandits and they surrounded me almost immediately

that's the saddest part, is that it was in Cordon, just me absolutely fumbling in every way possible

[solar chasm]

Fuck i hate boars

[foggy heath]

Literally 1984?

[sinful osprey]

they're such a non issue the second you have a solid weapon or if you circle strafe them but I had my kiparis and was waiting for the flank shot which I never got

[radiant star]

it was removed for good reason after all

[solar chasm]

Also yeah freedom in cordon can be unexpectedly deadly

[foggy heath]

What was wrong with it

[radiant star]

it wouldnt go open source

cant tell if theres a zipbomb inside or a virus or just how to tweak the engine ourselves

all control is up to 2 guys

[sinful osprey]

Freedom is fucking scary in cordon
my first ironman dutyer almost made it to mm but I lost a life to them early on when one with a BaS k98 instantly healthgated me

the ones I ran into that took my last life had assault rifles lmao

almost makes up for it that you can start with a pretty solid medium armor but you really feel how much more dangerous it is to be duty early game rather than loner

at least being duty makes agroprom way safer

[sick yoke]

clearly remnant because fnaf lore sucks or something

(it says the reason in the message)

[foggy heath]

[foggy heath]

had no idea the mod got removed from the server lol

i saw it in mods posting like an hour ago

[celest sparrow]

Any mention of it is just 1984d until the Author makes it Public Access

Which the Author itself requested for the thread to be locked down until so

or some shit like that

[solar chasm]

Imo duty is the hardest single faction invictus

[sinful osprey]

I'd think bandit would be worse
I could see merc and freedom being rough early game

[solar chasm]

Bandit isn't an invictus faction...

[sinful osprey]

I thought they had access to story, nevermind then if that's the case

[solar chasm]

Afaik?

[sick yoke]

they don't

[sinful osprey]

guess you'd have to join mercs or freedom
weird, for a while I'd convinced myself they did

[solar chasm]

Mercs are definitely easier. Loners are mostly non threatening, duty and mil don't tend to move around a lot

[sinful osprey]

fuck I think I realized why I potatoed out
I went out for korean bbq for my birthday today and stuffed my face
food coma is starting to hit lmao

[solar chasm]

People talk about how you can head to dark valley and do bandit tasks but i found between AW, DC and yantar you get plenty of tasks without constantly lowering your eco rep from bandit tasks

[sinful osprey]

getting the 3 man goon squad from Sultan is really damn nice for some of those tasks though

[solar chasm]

Tho bandits are your buyable wp scope faction so personal preference there

Also you can very easily cheese the northern rostok checkpoint for loot with a disguise and an IED

[quasi lance]

where can I buy 9x39

i gotta storm x18

[oblique reef]

WP traders sell it at Supply level 2

[sick yoke]

wp traders

[quasi lance]

i see

and those would be

w

?

[sick yoke]

bruh lol

[foggy heath]

bandits, duty, loners, military

[quasi lance]

thanks

[solar chasm]

Technically eco but not really

Also mono and sin but prolly not relevant to you

[oblique reef]

Check the newbies chat pins for some informational charts

[outer marlin]

Hey guys, how do I make the ammo count appear down here again like in older builds?

[radiant star]

well it wasnt removed

hud mods?

[outer marlin]

None

Thought it might've been disabled by default now

[quasi lance]

they massacred my boy 😭

[quasi lance]

mine shows up

havent messed with any settings or anything

[blissful ivy]

what the fuck is that?

thats not base gamma

never seen that fugly lump of garbage

[quasi lance]

a svd

._.

inspect animation isnt bad tho

[cursive bone]

hey guys, does anyone of you here is using the serious workshop optimization?

[blissful ivy]

ugly piece of shit it is

[quasi lance]

yeah

[oblique reef]

It's FWP's SVD

[blissful ivy]

ah right

and its only 60 rpm

which is absolute shitstain RoF

[oblique reef]

I buffed it but the recoil anim is a bit much

[outer marlin]

Hide ammo counter was on

I just updated like an hour ago, I guess it's on by default in the latest build

[hidden remnant]

is there predefined reshade profiles?

[hollow wadi]

#╟🎑reshades

Better ask in a not-dead-chat

[solar chasm]

Take a look at the bottom gun in his inventory ROFL

[cursive bone]

My local bandits at Cordon are mad, they're challenging the military at the south checkpoint in a gun fight.

[solar chasm]

Oooh that sounds an instance of them pathing to that one camp just south of rookie village

Quite rare a squad actually paths there

[cursive bone]

3 bandits

[solar chasm]

🤷‍♂️ idk how many can path there

[cursive bone]

ahhh i thought thats pre set or something

i was supposed to get a stash near them, now im taking refure in the village.

mfkers probably died. The military are now pushing at the village

[warm verge]

merc loadout changes

W

PPSH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smelly UDP

[oblique reef]

Don't get why all the loadouts are so similar, why are NATO factions given the PPSH?

[ashen plover]

Presumably because anyone can pay a guy at an army Depot a few hundred and walk out with a gun

Military being comically corrupt and shit like that

[oblique reef]

Would've liked it if every faction had a more tailored weapon selection. Made my own loadout changes after Drunk's

[warm verge]

in my game nato factions can start with the fuckin uhhrrr

[river parcel]

aw, I like the UDP9 it's great

not rare regardless but it was neat that it was a starting weapon for mercs

[warm verge]

i feel like more WP factions should get the vityaz as a

like

their version of the MP5 essentially so that we don't have like

[harsh sandal]

Me skorpion, me dont care

[ashen plover]

Last i checked they do

[harsh sandal]

[oblique reef]

the forbidden 9x18 skorpion too

[warm verge]

only loners i do believe so

[oblique reef]

Duty has the PP2000 which is arguably better

Monolith too

[river parcel]

all of the low caliber smgs are super underrated (so long as you have a gunsmithing kit lmao)

[warm verge]

BAS22 adds some funny stuff in terms of SMGs

[river parcel]

81 round drum, poor mutants never stood a chance

[harsh sandal]

Alright BS timer only continue if I reenter the lab

So I guess I will retreat and continue my chimera hunter search

[quasi lance]

why's the CBSS scope only an overlay now ?

dont remember it being like this

[warm verge]

did you disable 3D scopes

[quasi lance]

no ?

on the game, or MO2 ?

fixed it

[blissful ivy]

no no, thats a work of art

[blissful ivy]

where did you get the bubba'd up mosin? the bottom in your inventory

[harsh sandal]

Alright I made it back home alive

I guess I will spend more time on finding chimera hunter

[quasi lance]

Killed a dutyer

[blissful ivy]

no the mod

[quasi lance]

Pretty sure its from frosty's

[harsh sandal]

Or just make a million more AP slugs

[blissful ivy]

you better not say FWP

i will end you

[quasi lance]

v:

[blissful ivy]

YOU MOTHERFUCKER

[quasi lance]

Cry

[blissful ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-space-marine-2-warhammer-warhammer40k-slam-gif-13840589410824280412

[quasi lance]

Seethe

Mald

Shit yourself, even

[oblique reef]

No Obrez Mosin for you

[blissful ivy]

mald sounds like a kind of alcohol

like a malt

[quasi lance]

Why so mad abt frosty's ?

[blissful ivy]

or like malt vinegar, maybe mald vinegar?

[blissful ivy]

because its bloatware for gamma

too much garbage shit in with the good shit

[quasi lance]

Meh
I like it

[blissful ivy]

frosty is a great modder, but that pack enrages me

[oblique reef]

I'm just deleting the stuff I don't like

[blissful ivy]

too much effort

i can just look up obrez mosin and maybe find it

[oblique reef]

You can prob just download Frosty's EFT mosin pack on Moddb

[blissful ivy]

pretty sure i just found it

[oblique reef]

He uploads his weapons seperately there too

[blissful ivy]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/escape-from-tarkov-mosin-and-obrez

literally 1 google search away

[oblique reef]

Literally what I meant

[blissful ivy]

ok and?

didnt ask

prolly no 3dss tho

idk

[oblique reef]

It has 3DSS

[blissful ivy]

oh neato

[oblique reef]

All of Frosty's guns have it

[blissful ivy]

oh ok, im so used to juan's guns

where literally like 4 have it, and the other 11 are athis patch

and then the other guns he has just dont have it XD

[fallen atlas]

I have to wonder..
We already have a method for shotguns to allow alternate loading on empty
What if someone made empty load a clip insert and partial load the single bullet mechanic? 👀

[blissful ivy]

what kind of goofy mad scientist ramblings are these?

somehow this makes no sense to me

also clip insert? its called a mag

[fallen atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

[blissful ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/moistcritikal-mags-gif-3180762940282687966

[fallen atlas]

mf called a stripper clip a mag.

[blissful ivy]

what?

why would a shotgun have a clip?

shotguns are tube or mag fed

[fallen atlas]

It's a Mosin Nagant.
It has STRIPPER CLIPS.

[blissful ivy]

not fucking clip fed

i thought you were talking about shotguns

since you mentioned SHOTGUNS

[fallen atlas]

Bruh I was talking in relation to the mosin above.

[blissful ivy]

well try replying to a message, to provide context

[fallen atlas]

I only mentioned shotguns because we have a way to alt load them when empty

[blissful ivy]

that would remove the issue of your idea being lost in transmission

[fallen atlas]

[blissful ivy]

yeah, well how the fuck am i to get that from what you said?

considering you mentioned shotguns at the beginning, which would leave one to presume that shotguns are the topic at hand

[normal island]

Not really

It's just reload/empty reload

engine wise it's treated like any magazine fed gun

[fallen atlas]

Damn

[blissful ivy]

[fallen atlas]

It would be nice though if someone finally figured it out

[normal island]

That can be made with scripts

I tried to make it work for one of my guns but I couldn't get the thing working

[sick yoke]

something something that one single colt revolver idk

[normal island]

And the arisaka mod

[unreal jungle]

Literally .45 hydroshock

Another case if there's a huge hoard of them

[lethal steeple]

blackgrowl's ithacas also have the first shell animation

oh it was about alternating between full reload and tri state

[harsh sandal]

Doesnt m1014 have that too?

[lethal steeple]

yeah but it was not the point of the convo

i misunderstood it

[sinful osprey]

I'm pretty sure this military fuck just one shot me
it shouldn't be possible, I thought I was over 80% health

[river parcel]

depending on the weapon it can be pretty easy for them to just double tap you in one burst especially with weaker resistances

if that's not the case, it's also easy to not realize how much health is missing since the head on the indicator is small and harder to gauge precisely, if you're not checking your inventory for the raw %

[blissful ivy]

speaking of %, when stat mod with % number stats?

because i fucking hate bars so much

[sinful osprey]

might fuck around and pull up on the zone with the techy

[blissful ivy]

teccy*

but fair

[sinful osprey]

I knew it didn't sound right for tec-9

[blissful ivy]

i guess

[sinful osprey]

but you corrected me before i could edit

lmao

[blissful ivy]

idk idc either, i just felt like saying it

anyways, back to .ltx editing

me big modder

i might just fuck around and release my shitty ass new game loadout edit and ask for orange role

[sinful osprey]

gents I think I kinda hate starting in rookie village sometimes
I swear it lulls me into a false sense of security every time

[blissful ivy]

toss in a few other little edits

i always hate starting in rookie

because south fucking sucks

to clarify, south doesnt suck, south fucking sucks

[sinful osprey]

I was gonna say, garbage is pretty fun early game
swamp fucking slingshots between really fun and tense and fuck this whole place and every blue nerd fuck in it

[blissful ivy]

swamps is always fun if you got npcs cant see through foliage

people always say "you can hide in bushes" no you fucking cant, theyve shot me while im in bushes because they either hear/see a glimpse of you

so they just become inaccurate when you hide in a bush

[river parcel]

cordon is great for cash but you just progress a lot faster by going farther north

and progressing faster means you struggle for less time

[sinful osprey]

i swear I start with an SMG every time
I wish they weren't so consistently versatile
might run Juan's uzi this time just for something different even if the sights make me want to kill myself

[blissful ivy]

correction: rostok is great for cash

[blissful ivy]

get juan's mp-43 mod

there you go

new option for starting out

that isnt smg

[river parcel]

they both are, cordon just asks less from you to get it

[blissful ivy]

and its quite fun

[blissful ivy]

rostok asks more, making it objectively better

since south is too fucking easy

but mid zone is fun

because it presents a certain challenge

that the south cant provide

[sinful osprey]

only problem with rostok is early game you can occasionally get fucked for quests in areas that are worth the risk meaning you have to go further south

I especially love when Spring Cleaning in Cordon just never fucking ends

[river parcel]

I basically only ever go below rostok for money, but cordon is quite good for that specifically

[blissful ivy]

no you see, if i get a quest as duty that says kill guy in freedom base, whelp, off i go to kill all of freedom base on a whim

[sinful osprey]

I have the fwp mp-43
but I'd have to run leather jacket to use it which wouldn't be the worst thing considering loner starter has aids rad resist regardless

[river parcel]

I'm mostly talking in reference to the early game when you can't even craft your own bullets

[blissful ivy]

now youre getting it

[blissful ivy]

yeah, so am i

i take my trusty mp-43, my ps5-m vest and my pbf mask

and trudge off to kill them all

[sinful osprey]

fuck it
I always go for the sunrise, may as well use leather jacket for once
get a better gun that isn't just insert 9mm smg

[blissful ivy]

smgs are lame

[river parcel]

I mean if you want to spend all the money you'd use for progression on ammo to go kill some stalkers feel free, it's just way easier to not do that

[blissful ivy]

disagreed, the first thing i buy is ammo

i go to butcher, buy 20 slugs

[sinful osprey]

this game made me love the kiparis
but I wish the kedr I have modded in would be a starter weapon
idc if it's functionally the same I like the soviet brick

[blissful ivy]

then go off to wherever petrenko sent me to kill people

[blissful ivy]

you can add it to the starter weapons

[sinful osprey]

you can use an SMG as a pistol with no recoil though
I usually only burst full auto against mutants and that's short controlled bursts

[blissful ivy]

just find one of the mods that changes the loadouts/adds a gun, then just add a line with the section name of the kedr

and then bam

its there

just insert gun

into loadout

[sinful osprey]

ima keep it a band
i'm so fucking lazy
and I need a break from the kiparis which the kedr is basically just that anyway

[oblique reef]

new_game_loadouts.ltx

wpn_eft_kedr = (true, 1, point value)

[river parcel]

and you can do that, I'm just saying it's way easier to go pick up lost signals, return cargos, package deliveries, the sort

[blissful ivy]

[sinful osprey]

noted for whenever I actually feel like spawning with a 9x18 smg again lmao

[blissful ivy]

booooriiingg

imma go kill mfs

[oblique reef]

I've spent weeks perfecting my new game loadouts, know it by heart at this rate

[blissful ivy]

yo same, i added new outfits and weapons

mostly because i made the number of stalkers massive, so i need better stuff to fight the onslaught

[rocky sapphire]

Same thing.

[blissful ivy]

no, theyre not

[rocky sapphire]

Ya huh

[blissful ivy]

mags are enclosed, clips are open

[blissful ivy]

i think youre fucking stunted mate, because theyre not

[rocky sapphire]

I think you're easy 🙂

[blissful ivy]

[radiant sage]

Bro fishin with that bait

[oblique reef]

Sin gets some nice guns

[rocky sapphire]

Love you sweetheart.

[blissful ivy]

eugh

[oblique reef]

Get a room you two

[rocky sapphire]

Only if he pays.

[harsh sandal]

The heck I just walked into

[blissful ivy]

ragebaiting

[sinful osprey]

new loaner yall fuck with the name

[blissful ivy]

no, call him ionized ivan, since hes gonna be irradiated

all lowercase

[radiant sage]

Topkek

[sinful osprey]

I was heavily debating calling him getoutofherestalker

[radiant sage]

Godly suggestion

[rocky sapphire]

Gas Mask Gary better

[blissful ivy]

ionized ivan better

[sinful osprey]

I'm sad I didn't think of Ionized Ivan though lmao

[blissful ivy]

idk im just him

just make it ionized ivan, since thats the name of a legend

for sure

[rocky sapphire]

Ionised Ivan
Gas Mask Gary
Theotherone

Ionised made me chuckle so I vote for that

[sinful osprey]

they can't all be as good as Adolf Stalin Mussolini Pot Zedong the dutyer

next one will be ASMPZ III

[blissful ivy]

elephants foot ernie

radioactive ralph

nuclear nikolai

[rocky sapphire]

Am I allowed to steal... Most of these?

[blissful ivy]

yes

theyre free

im just good at shitty names

[rocky sapphire]

Freeedom!

[blissful ivy]

considering ive named myself "AHHH BULLETS HURT" before

[rocky sapphire]

Where we you when I was making random toons in Wow

[blissful ivy]

because i found out that yes in fact, bullets hurt

(i got mowed down by the MG at machine yard in CS quest)

[sinful osprey]

you the kind of guy to post "stole ur meme" memes
just steal it idgaf

also
Chernobyl Charlie

[rocky sapphire]

I would never.

[radiant sage]

Lead microdoser

[blissful ivy]

thats childs play compared to power plant perry

sarcophagus sam

[rocky sapphire]

pls stop hahahahha

[radiant sage]

Radon randy

[sinful osprey]

Corium Carl

[blissful ivy]

uranium ulysses

plutonium patrick

radium ron

francium frank

promethium parker

thorium tristan

anyone gonna chime in?

XD

fermium falcon

thats a good one

[rocky sapphire]

this 1 was good

[blissful ivy]

moscovium manny

polonium prince

neptunium nancy

berkelium barry

curium cameron

i think thats all off the top of my head

i cant think of anything else i memorized from periodic table

[sick yoke]

radioactive robert the robber

[blissful ivy]

no, no, you ruined it, the vibe is ruined

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-cat-funny-cat-meme-cute-gif-4770784610413068186

[ember sonnet]

Heya

Finally here, lmao

[blissful ivy]

yeah and you joined in to see my glorious names

[ember sonnet]

Do one for zinc

[blissful ivy]

no, thats not radioactive, but i will humor you

zinc zayne, now shoo

[solar chasm]

well, not gonna lie, mildly disappointing BS loot

[blissful ivy]

very disappointing

mutant is neat i guess, but you can get better

[solar chasm]

i already have a BRN

[mighty viper]

? Best 7.62x39 though

[sinful osprey]

it's so fucking ugly though

[solar chasm]

doesn't the BRN have better accuracy and RoF?

[sinful osprey]

drip or drown

[mighty viper]

Lol hell no

Or it's unintended

[mighty viper]

I don't know, I kind of like it, only the handle is weird

[sinful osprey]

I'd personally prefer the base mutant but that's just me

[radiant sage]

It does look much better than the monster of an EFT ergo nightmare

[mighty viper]

Indeed, I do with what I'm given. Might edit the model later but it's not a high priority

[random grail]

#📎to-do message trade exception?

[sinful osprey]

understandable
tbh I have a bunch of extra weapons in my game anyway. I think FWP has the base mutant but I'd have to check regardless

[ripe lagoon]

fix ksg being sellable to traders

[last mesa]

Grok's cooking again

Oh btw Oleh. Remember the MP155 talk yesterday?

The freezoom doesn't change it's HUD FOV, only the overall FOV

[gilded drift]

I can finally chat here!

[daring crown]

congrats now you see that #╟🔰☢newbies-chat is >>>>>>

[spice slate]

Can someone tell me how to install SSS 23 correctly?

[celest sparrow]

#📢announcements message

Should be good now if you do an update via the launcher

[spice slate]

[spice slate]

If I update the gamma, will my mod list reset?

[celest sparrow]

!backup

[dawn marten]

@spice slate
Follow this to "save" your settings and keybinds before updating: #╭📖faq message
And if you want to keep your personal mod list between updates, follow this: #╭📖faq message

[green shale]

Yes it will. Even if you make a custom mod profile, you will have to manually adjust it so that it uses SSS 23 after you update.

Custom mod profiles do not update automatically if you update GAMMA

[short plume]

Quick question, was the grenade duplication glitch fixed in the newest version?

like, i think level transitions would take a loaded grenade and multiply it bu your guns mag size, id go to a new level and have 30x M203 nades cause i had one loaded on an M4

[celest sparrow]

yeah

[short plume]

Noice, also kinda sad too, it was funny spamming nades, though i guess i can now use my underbarrel nades without fear

[last mesa]

You had you ubgl nades dupe!? Dude mine just dissapear from the tube the moment I switch a scope

I really have to kill more monolith to grind those

[short plume]

yeah, a few updates ago, if you had your GL selected and changed level, i guess it would put your gun to normal, but GL would be selected with however many nades as your standard mag has in bullets

[last mesa]

Dayum

Should've ran with my ubgl selected more often

[short plume]

so your AK would suddenly have 30 nades in a fake mag, as soon as you fired your GL the tube would say "29" and youd have to unload your gun, then 29 nades in your inventory

made me not use nades, as when i did i would suddenly be 3.2 tonnes without me looking

[last mesa]

XD

I run mags. Imagine if I unloaded a mag to see 29/30 rounds, top round: VOG-25 xD

Ngl I'd probably enjoy that for a while xD

Also is it normal that the elevator doors don't open to X8 even if you turn on the generator? I had to drop down from the generator cable hole to enter

[inner sierra]

Eft meta kit looks like ass

[warm verge]

LOOK WHO FINALLY FUCKING SHOWED UP

[reef lagoon]

chiymera

[versed badge]

Just went into Yantar Lab, thinking it will be the usual snorks and zombies. Got shot unexpected instead

[flat plover]

Oh yeah NPC patrols are pretty funny at times.

[versed badge]

NPC patrol? There shouldnt be any armed NPCs in there?

I thought they replaced these dumb zombies by armed zombified stalkers

[flat plover]

Any faction can wonder through there in patrols of 2-3 If not more.

[versed badge]

gg

[nimble ingot]

Gaemera strikes again

[flat plover]

So yeah don't be surprised if you end up in combat whilst going in there.

[last mesa]

I just had a monolith squad of 6 dudes come outta nowhere to hunt my ass

Ngl it's times like these that I enjoy having companions draw fire while I heal in cover xD

I was literally at 2% HP at best xD

[vagrant wagon]

Yummy

[unreal jungle]

One of my yellow stashes is bugged and icon shows up on same spot where I spawn on location with a stash

is there any way to fix this?

[vagrant wagon]

Look at those trees from a distance! I'm enjoying the latest patch.

[obtuse yoke]

as much as the new SSS is amazing, it kicks my GPU ass like no other game. 5070ti here, temps to up to 70C and 2K RPM on fans. Anyone else seeing this?

anything else I load barely scratches 60C in comparison, no matter what fidelity I choose to run that on

[proper drum]

i guess my 3080 palit will burn my pc then, it's 75C on average on previous patch xd

[short flame]

Hi, I've got a question. If I get stuck on some rocks in Darkscape is there any way I can use the debug menu to fly out of them ? Cuz I cant move at all and I didnt see an option there

[daring crown]

!noclip

[dawn marten]

@short flame You'll need to enable debug mode first: #╭📖faq message

1. Press Numpad 0, this will put you in noclip mode.
If you don't have a numpad, open the console with ~, type demo_record 1 into the console and hit Enter
2. Move around with WASD and go forward and backward with left click and right click
3. Press Enter to "land"

[proper drum]

demo_record 1 fly away enter

[short flame]

Ah thank you

[obtuse yoke]

FWIW, applying some little to no difference visual settings AND limiting FPS to 60 (down from excess150ish after this patch) did bring the GPU load back to normal. Temps are around 55C now

[proper drum]

try limiting to 90, games feel enough smooth at these

[obtuse yoke]

SSS settings I changed come from @frank oxide from the newbie channel: SSS Settings:
Post-Process > Bloom - OFF (turn all sliders to the left)
Shadows Cascades - Each grass shadows setting to LOW or OFF
Shadows and Light - Force Volumetric OFF, Volumetric Intensity to 0, Volumetric Quality to VERY LOW
SSR - OFF (turn all sliders to the left)
SSS - Low Quality for Directional and Omni Lights

[obtuse yoke]

60 is just fine tbh, but I will try 90, cheers

[frank oxide]

[vagrant wagon]

I'm gonna check for changes with my GPU

[frank oxide]

Bloom setting is a bit tricky because in some cases exposure all the way down can cause bright fog/blurry vision in labs

But otherwise yea, little to no quality impact, slightly better performance

[proper drum]

i wonder what kind of hardware allowes you to play gamma with settings maxed out

[obtuse yoke]

I popped it up half ways again, no temp hit. Pretty sure its the grass shadow cascade settings that did the number on the GPU. 91 fps throttled now in the nvidia panel

thats more like it^^

20C less and half the rpm on the fans

[vagrant wagon]

GPU is at steady 68-70C with 0 - 1600 rpm on fans. CPU is at steady 46C
(RTX 4090 + 9800 X3D running at 4K)

[harsh sandal]

Just dont update the game

[obtuse yoke]

mine being at 70C with 2K on fans made it noisy. Its not a big deal on the thremals for sure, but the fun part was that nothing else does this.

[vagrant wagon]

Yep that's odd

[grand belfry]

my rtx 2060 and i5 11th staring at me rn

[reef lagoon]

sorry man

metro exodus is the minimum for you

[quasi lance]

Damn
Ya'lls gpu is chill

Mine usually works at 80-90°C

My pc dislikes me, it burns my hand if i touch it anywhere but the keyboard

[obtuse yoke]

depending on how old your rig is and the GPU itself, those temps are not healthy for the card long term. maybe look into replacing thermal paste if its an older model. That alone usually does the trick, next to cleaning it proper and possibly looking into additional cooling setups for it

[quasi lance]

My pc isnt exactly old

Its an acer predator laptop

Got an 11th gen I7 and a 3070

[graceful fulcrum]

"laptop"

[quasi lance]

Yeah ?

Its what I can afford

And that was already expensive

[obtuse yoke]

its a good laptop man

dont let anyone mess with you on that front

[quasi lance]

It is
It lets me 3d model and play games that my old one couldnt

My old one had a 9th gen i7 and a 1660ti :v

Funny how I get more FPS when playing cyberpunk with raytracing than I do minecraft or STALKER 2

I should prob go get him cleaned on the inside tho

[obtuse yoke]

stalker 2 is a mess

[quasi lance]

Might help with the heat

[obtuse yoke]

not optimized at all

[quasi lance]

Eh, its getting better
Seen worse tbh

[obtuse yoke]

yeah its your best bet

[lethal steeple]

vanilla minecraft is also one of the worst performance games ever

[quasi lance]

Mhm
I wonder if one day we'll get raytraced gamma 🤔
That'd be fun

[quasi lance]

I get more performance running 500 mods than the base game 😭

[graceful fulcrum]

Cooling is always a problem with laptops and you said that buying a whole laptop for 3d and games was cheaper that buying just a graphics card for your pc or I got that wrong?

[quasi lance]

No
Buying a pc was too expensive

The laptop was cheaper

Still abt 9k tho 😭

I'm saving money to either buy a new computer, or a fursuit, whichever's cheaper

[quasi lance]

-w-

[last mesa]

I don't get how people run solo in Gamma with the immense amount of loot to carry

[quasi lance]

Patience
And strong legs

And lots of stashes

[lethal steeple]

actual reading of the game and understanding what is and what isn't necessary to be picked up

[quasi lance]

but yeah, you got it right

[lethal steeple]

people that have companion zergs usually have the messiest and most overloaded inventories

not to mention stashes

due to the exponential "increase" in carry weight they provide

[quasi lance]

Oh right companions can carry shit for you

Time to exploit rhat

[lethal steeple]

that's to say, it's a noob problem

[graceful fulcrum]

As a loot goblin I never used companions

[quasi lance]

Me neither

Im just used to walking slow

[warm verge]

is GAMMA that demanding for yo

u

all

like what

maybe don't run 3000000000000000000000000 graphical mods

multiple demanding reshade presets

[quasi lance]

I run gamma as is, with only a couple extra weapons

My gpu hits 90°C

My cpu hits 80-90°C

[small ermine]

Cpu is cooking

[graceful fulcrum]

He have a laptop....

[green shale]

it's a combo of other games teaching you that you're supposed to loot everything in tactical shooters/crafting games/survival games, and gamma having the outward appearance of all those while operating on drastically different economy logic

plus an engine that cannot handle item hoarding on a fundamental level

like the simple fact that guns are worthless, and you should treat them as such, seems damn near impossible for people to pick up intuitively. and i can't blame them.

[quasi lance]

😔

[green shale]

there's also some deeply unintuitive stuff like "mineral water is lighter than purified water by a lot, but purified water icon is smaller than mineral water by half". you would expect big icon = big item = heavier item

[viral roost]

Just running in 4k already nukes your fps

Without adding shit

[graceful fulcrum]

Agreed, that flask weighting like an armor made laugh

[quasi lance]

Canteens arent even that heavy tbh

[green shale]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message counterpoint

never forget

[quasi lance]

No, i mean canteens arent supposed to be as heavy
I had one irl
They're pretty light

[quasi lance]

Oh god ._.

That is one hydrated man

[vagrant wagon]

I guess so? I'm not running anything else at the same time. Could be the 4K resolution that's doing it maybe.

[warm verge]

4K is overkill for GAMMA

[last mesa]

I mean. Picking up guns and stuff is not the problem. It's more so that I pick up all crafting items and parts, because I never know when I'll need one, but never remember what I already have and if I should toss it out, and even then there is no "delete bin" that we could use for the 0% condition stuff that otherwise has to be manually donated or dropped

[green shale]

this is moreso what I mean by "other crafting games condition you to pick up EVERYTHING, and Xray cannot handle this fundamentally"

[vagrant wagon]

I'm on a 4K monitor so I don't really have a choice

It does look way better compared to my previous 1440p, so I'm not complaining.

[last mesa]

Yeah. Fair

[lethal steeple]

the dreaded irl argument

but really there is no reason to have 4 water items

[fading plinth]

fallout 76 weigh these

[last mesa]

Was that a plastic one?

[quasi lance]

Pretty sure it was some sort of plastic, yes

[last mesa]

Yeah

The ingame ones are metal xD

[fading plinth]

i had a little hip flask and filled up it wasnt heavy but it was enough to where i could see like 5 or more being a big burden

[quasi lance]

Ooh ok
Makes a lot more sense
Tho they do look like the plastic ones

[green shale]

how much a canteen weighs irl is completely beside the point

[last mesa]

Yeah, tho just saying there is an IRL explanation

[last mesa]

They could be painted

[quasi lance]

Ye

[last mesa]

Also. Monolith War Labs. 20 FPS. Good fucking luck to myself and my AS Val loaded with SP-6 xD

Possibly the best gun for the job, if instead of PSO I had a damn Kobra sight on it

[sick yoke]

how many sips does mineral water give again

[graceful fulcrum]

The flask weight doesn't mean much, the point is the water inside, every time you sip, the weight goes down greatly.

[sick yoke]

i forget if it's a single use or like 2 use or what

[stark wyvern]

its 3 uses

[sick yoke]

mineral water is 3 uses??

i thought that was canteen only honestly

[graceful fulcrum]

Mineral is one if I remember, you even throw the can away

[green shale]

mineral water is the best for actual thirst, purified water is used in cooking

[lethal steeple]

tbh if there was a way to select how much you want to drink like in tarkov the only water item that would be needed would be mineral water

[sick yoke]

and how much does mineral water weigh again

[graceful fulcrum]

Much lower than a flask

[lethal steeple]

like 40% of a canteen

[sick yoke]

cause from what i remember carrying canteens is more efficient in terms of not wasting water and holding equivalent amounts of sips

but i don't remember if grok changed water values in 0.9.3

cause canteens used to be the perfect amount of thirst gain (loss?) that you'd sip immediately when reaching yellow thirst icon and be at full water

[graceful fulcrum]

Trying to balance things out using irl logic in the game is a hellhole anyway, people like to use against ammo craft and disassembly

[sick yoke]

mineral would be way more but it gets wasted because yellow thirst icon gives debuffs and what not so you want to drink then anyway

anyway just bring like 1 or 2 full canteens for your trips

[lethal steeple]

the "i SHOULD be able to dismantle 10 ap mausers to convert them 1:1 into lapua" thing will never ever make sense to me

[sick yoke]

loot bodies for the rest

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lethal steeple]

game design and balance has never ever crossed lil bro's mind

and then you get the "it's a singleplayer game!!! there's no balance!!! that's for pvp!!!"

[graceful fulcrum]

Exactly, every caliber and casing is different in size, how limited the engine is, making caliber casing, and bullet head for everyone would be worse to craft ammunition that the system we have

[lethal steeple]

...wha???

[sick yoke]

that's not what they're talking about

they're saying it's stupid that people want to be able to buy the cheapest large rifle ap ammo and convert it to the most expensive large rifle ap ammo for no extra cost

[graceful fulcrum]

It's similar, the ammo craft system is simplified to be easier to understand and craft ammunition with it

[lethal steeple]

it's streamlined because it needs to be streamlined

for one because of what you said

and also because it allows for different costs for ammo crafts

otherwise everything would be 1:1

which is not only boring but would also be unbalanceable

[thorny matrix]

what is a noclip command besides demo record?

rouge is stuck under the location in operation afterglow and i cant talk to him 😭

[vast pier]

I think Dima got a little to close to the Whirlgig Anomaly

[gilded drift]

is there a way for me to see certain items across all my stashes

[green shale]

what do you mean? like, seeing how many of Item X you have in every single stash in the entire game?

(the answer is no)

think the closest to that is utjan's qol showing you how many items are in nearby stashes if they're quest items

[gilded drift]

yeah i kinda forgot how many basic tools i had. I am trying to collect as much as i can for these stupid medium armor repair kit

[lethal steeple]

one could probably extend that mod's functionality in conjunction with the anomalous stash mod (also by utjan) to have a read out of how many items you have across stashes

[last mesa]

Ngl my reshade preset makes the game look cinematic for me despite the game being rendered with static lighting. I have to say I really enjoy it.

[gilded drift]

which one is better for me in yantar and above the north at the moment guys

[last mesa]

Hold CTRL to see full stats (as if they were fixed)

[warped grove]

Is the "weapon too rusty" thing, still a thing?

[green shale]

yes, fire the gun once before trying to fix it

[warped grove]

annoying

Already pulled out the trigger mech

can't put it back either can I?

[lethal steeple]

nah

clean a part if you have a cleaning kit

or manifest a new part into existance with a repair kit

[warped grove]

hmm

[warped grove]

I assume cleaning one on the gun ;)

[green shale]

that will work yes

cos cleaning a gun by doing right click -> "clean part" gives it +10% overall condition, which is usually enough of a bump for you to drag and drop the part back in