stage-discussion

[gleaming dagger]

• Made it possible to delete one's own messages when broadcaster or mod
  how...

[unkempt hill]

always been a thing thats possible

no client lets you do it but the irc and gql let you

you can actually do it yourself on any client

if you get the message id

[dull siren]

#stage-discussion message

[unkempt hill]

and type .delete <id>

[dull siren]

oh

[gleaming dagger]

interesting

thats pretty cool

wonder why twitch hasn't implemented a <Message Retracted> thing from youtube yet

[naive hatch]

too busy figuring out how to inject more ads into stream and cuck adblockers to do anything feature related

[polar magnet]

That’s heckin cool

!vanish

[eternal iron]

Do you have any idea how to solve injecting out own elements into twitch's stuff? @unkempt hill

For the tray i can pass one of reacts JSX elements. but how do i nicely teleport to it again

[finite monolith]

😂

[rain bolt]

did someone say react 😏

[eternal iron]

Nvm i did it

[unkempt hill]

yeah just set a ref:

so like {$$typeof......, ref: {current: null}}

and then set a property hook

on current

then set that to a vue ref

and do <Teleport :to="node">

property hooks are easy to set

just import definePropertyHook

then definePropertyHook(ref, "current", {value: (v) => {node.value = v;}});

you'll get the current value and any future updates

[eternal iron]

Even easier

const el = ref({current: null})
...
{
$$typeof...,
ref: el.value
}

<teleport :to=el.current /> ```

[unkempt hill]

yeah that works too

vue refs are automatically converted into reactive()

[eternal iron]

i guess reactive is better here

[unkempt hill]

yeah doesnt really matter here

since its something we define

we control the object completely and all refrences to it are deliberate from us

its a proxy object though, so this doesnt work if you dont control the refrences

like if you took an already existing object and reactive()ed it

you'd only get dispatches from your modifications to it, not any other code

[eternal iron]

Yea, because they still write directly to the object

[unkempt hill]

NODDERS

[eternal iron]

Soon recreated the entire twitch chat visually

[finite monolith]

the problem with that

is that

if it looks exactly like the twitch chat

and it doesn't behave exactly like normal twitch chat

people will be very confused

[daring gale]

we can provide a native mode eventually

where it only patches messages

[quasi carbon]

Name it slow mode

[daring gale]

Maybe under an option named like, "Disable high-performance chat"

[eternal iron]

"Normie mode"

[quasi carbon]

"non-sub chat"

[eternal iron]

Should we use the modifier tray for emote set updates?

@daring gale

[daring gale]

perhaps

Though might be more efficient to just

Make our own tray

[eternal iron]

hmm

not sure

[daring gale]

But if using twitch tray makes it easier to handle conflicting trays

[eternal iron]

Yea, the setTray is kinda sticking, meaning it will stay until you close it

the modifier tray can render over/instead of the normal tray, but the normal tray will come back once its gone again

So like the connecting to chat loading thing can suddenly replace the mention tray, but once its gone you will see the mentions one again

[daring gale]

I see, make a composable then useChatTray

[eternal iron]

Yea, just experimenting first

[daring gale]

Pass a component instance

[eternal iron]

Since there are lots of parameters that can be passed

[daring gale]

Then return show/hide methods

[eternal iron]

We need to be able to use the handlers tho

So that we can override the messagesend

[polar magnet]

I know a saddeningly large number of people prefer twitch’s “batched” messages as opposed to Chatterino or YouTube’s instant message delivery

[daring gale]

youtube's instant message delivery?

[polar magnet]

It’s not instant

But it’s like chatterino

Where they come in 1 at a time

[daring gale]

you mean like displayed as it comes?

[polar magnet]

Yeah

[daring gale]

we can easily add an option to make it batched

[polar magnet]

Yeah

this is must

[daring gale]

in fact it's basically just changing the milliseconds on one value

[polar magnet]

Customizable is even better

As long as there’s a normie-friendly button to make it like twitch chat

[daring gale]

can be like this

but "batch messages" instead or w/e

[polar magnet]

Would probably be fine

[daring gale]

simplified settings might be nice to add as well

like a button to switch between simple and advanced

[polar magnet]

Yes

On the simple side, you could have a drop down with a few preset values

That’s very FFZ-like

[daring gale]

[polar magnet]

“Instant”
“200 ms”
“500 ms”
“1000 ms (Twitch-like)”
Stuff like that

[daring gale]

no shot twitch has a 1s delay

[polar magnet]

Yeah idk what it is

It feels like a lot though

Probably closer to 250 ms per update

[eternal iron]

Only added support for replies for now

And you cant alt+enter to start a reply either

And i've not set it up as a composable yet, gonna think a bit about the best solution since there might be different stuff that different tray types want

@daring gale

[daring gale]

[eternal iron]

You can even reply to yourself

Changed the look of the mentions a bit, lemme know what you think

[daring gale]

ill look

can u pr it so i can use gh cli to clone it

[unkempt hill]

gh cli?

[woeful stirrup]

does this extension has live emote add?
doesn't seems to work for me

[dull siren]

doesnt work for me either

i dont think it does right now

[eternal iron]

done @daring gale

[daring gale]

@eternal iron looks giga pog, we should support emotes here tho

[eternal iron]

That would be kinda painfull

And twitch dosnt do it natively

[daring gale]

wait is the replying text from native or rendered

[eternal iron]

Rendered

[daring gale]

cant we just tokenize the text and then scale the emotes down to like 75%

[eternal iron]

But we only have a limited scope of the message

Voice?

[daring gale]

sure

[hexed cliff]

wait can someone show me how to delete your own message as mod?

[eternal iron]

The slider allows you to do it when using the new extension

[hexed cliff]

OMG ily

[peak shuttle]

In Firefox, 7TV animated emotes only work on the hover popup.

[eternal iron]

Will be fixed in the next version

[peak shuttle]

Thank you all

[midnight bison]

Sorry, what mean "historical chat messages"?

[eternal iron]

Messages that were sent before you joined the chat

[midnight bison]

Oh my God I've been waiting for this feature for so long!

[midnight bison]

Do you plan to add support for different languages ​​for the settings menu in the new extension?👀

[eternal iron]

Its planned, but not very high priority

[midnight bison]

thanks

[naive hatch]

iirc you need to know the message ID then you do .delete <id>

at least I seem to recall one of the mods mentioning it.

[dull siren]

yes

[low wadi]

The beta 3 now being out. Syncing settings with ffz, does it mean I get to see my badges again? ffz, ffz AP and chatterino?

[dull siren]

Ffz badge is planned, but not ap afaik

Chatterino idk

#stage-discussion message

[ruby otter]

everything seems to be working fine for me

[deft tangle]

Huuuuge beta

[daring gale]

Do let me know if you find any major problems, we are planning to make a full announcement tonight otherwise

[daring gale]

The only setting that is synced with ffz currently is the alternating background

[deft tangle]

Yeah badges would be huge too. Imagine stuff like that will come in the future

[vapid veldt]

the colon tabbing menu conflicts with the ffz one really bad

it was so annoying that I disabled ffz entirely

[nocturne juniper]

going to dashboard.twitch.tv i see changelog again

[vapid veldt]

happens on every refresh, fixed in next version

[empty dawn]

• Fixed an issue which caused the changelog to appear on every refresh

Should be fixed, right?

[vapid veldt]

ye, I'ma just wait for the web store auto update tho

[empty dawn]

There's an update button at chrome://extensions/

[vapid veldt]

yea but I think it has to get approved first

[empty dawn]

it is

[vapid veldt]

takes like 8h iirc

[empty dawn]

otherwise it wouldn't be live

[vapid veldt]

oh ok, well I'm not home anyways

[empty dawn]

[vapid veldt]

usually he would send the one you have to load unpacked so mb

[daring gale]

Pending approval

[merry elk]

own paint 👁️

// special paint

[deft tangle]

Now time for twitch to update their chat to break compatibility with the new beta

[peak shuttle]

💀

[deft tangle]

Twitch API devs waiting for the exact moment to break as many third party plugins as possible

[peak shuttle]

Genius

[desert canopy]

@daring gale

fixed an issue

its actually

[daring gale]

wat

[desert canopy]

unusable now

the fucking

[daring gale]

??

[desert canopy]

CHANGE LOG

DOESNT GO AWAY

[daring gale]

how

[desert canopy]

like the change log keeps insta reopening

before it was every refresh

now its whenever i fucking close it

[daring gale]

try close all ur twitch tabs

and reopen

[desert canopy]

i restarted chrome and it worked

[shell schooner]

i thought that was xqc trying to figure out the new extension

[livid fern]

Any idea when the 3.0 store Mozilla version will drop

[daring gale]

when they feel like it

[livid fern]

Only reason is because temp addons are shit

Since have to reload them every time

[vapid veldt]

Firefox user

[dull siren]

[deft tangle]

As intended

[minor ruin]

The 7tv changelog keeps appearing every time I close it

[finite monolith]

@daring gale

Manifest Version 3 (MV3) extension support is now enabled by default

in firefox 109

[quasi carbon]

Eyy nice

[unkempt hill]

no not nice

mv3 is shit all around

and its another case

of google forcing shit on the web

literally less capable than mv2

because google wanted to neuter ad blockers

[quasi carbon]

Aaaah yea i read about that actually. I guess ff is still able to support either at least just to not be locked out.

[ruby otter]

will there be an option to disable localized names?

[finite monolith]

thanks google

[peak shuttle]

@daring gale Beta is live for Firefox

[finite monolith]

[ruby otter]

he annouced it in #news

[peak shuttle]

Not for firefox

It just got approved

[dull siren]

#news message

[peak shuttle]

I'm a

[ruby otter]

ye

[dull siren]

[ruby otter]

the settings menu cant be closed when window is like this, maybe make it resizable when windows changes size like ffz has

[eternal iron]

The setting ui is missing most of its stuff, so this will be fixed later

[ruby otter]

[south estuary]

im aware this is known but sub messages still bugged

[daring gale]

ffz conflict

[south estuary]

ahh i see

just disable ffz for the beta then?

[daring gale]

ye

it doesnt have a whole lot of use anyway

unless you use ffz features outside of chat

[south estuary]

[vapid veldt]

would resetting all ffz chat settings fix conflicts

bc I use other ffz settings so I don't wanna fully disable it

[daring gale]

no clue, im waiting on an answer from stendec to make compatibility changes

both 7tv beta and ffz hook the same thing at a low level so it's clashing in a way that is hard to solve

[vapid veldt]

[peak shuttle]

When an emote is defined in multiple service providers under the same name. The preview prioritize 7TV emote while the chat prioritize FFZ . IMHO 7TV should always give precedence to 7TV emotes.

It was confusing when I typed "Clap" which was animated in 7TV and showed as animated emote in the text box but I hit enter it was not animated because the FFZ emote isn't.

Can be tested in Kitboga channel.

[daring gale]

i dont think there's any handling for priority atm, it's arbitrary as far as i know

so completely random what you get if theres a same-name emote on different providers

[peak shuttle]

I see. Ok

I'll create a suggestion then. Thank you for your prompt response.

[peak shuttle]

Tier 3 subbing makes emote modification free ( no channel points needed ). It would be nice if we get that feature back with the new emote menu.

[unkempt hill]

not sure if this is feasable

@eternal iron have you come across this data exposed anywhere?

its not all modifiers that you get access to

its up to the streamer

to select like 4 for teir 3 and 2 for teir2

or none

[peak shuttle]

Docs https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/modified-emotes?language=en_US

[unkempt hill]

oh so its 1 and 2

so we'd need to have that info available

[peak shuttle]

Could be reused later for 0 width 7TV backgrounds preview too

[eternal iron]

I feel like i might have seen this yes

[low wadi]

I can only modify my tier 3 emotes from the mobile app

[green wing]

@daring gale for next beta release, or when everything is fully done, are we gonna be able to see the emote show up in the chatbox when we tab to autocomplete it

[unkempt hill]

PagStick thats my task

[teal knoll]

your what?

[naive hatch]

get to work melon

[shell schooner]

ejaculate him

[ruby otter]

I found this on 39daph channel, i guess because is a 7tv global it picked up the global on the preview rather then the actual emote in chat

[vapid veldt]

probably bc priority is a mystery currently

[daring gale]

there's no priority handling, you'll get whatever

[eternal iron]

Strange that it shows a different emote tho

[finite monolith]

widedank

[woeful stirrup]

isnt it using the aspect ratio of the bttv FeelsDankMan, and 7tv FeelsDankMan as image

[unkempt hill]

so wait how do we do this currently?

[daring gale]

im pretty sure its just whatever loads last

[unkempt hill]

emote - > tooltip: name -> tooltip fetches emote again from name?

why dont we pass the emote data to the tooltip directly

why the additional fetch

[eternal iron]

No, we sort the sets i believe

[green wing]

start handling the priorities

[daring gale]

mf typed ffs over an issue on a build that isnt even released yet

report to #1063506536154026024

[inner sorrel]

ok but aint no way you made it shift e

[polar magnet]

surely no one needs to type a capital E

👉

[daring gale]

it was meant to be control e but browsers bind that key to the search bar

so i set it as shift for testing and forgot to change it back

[polar magnet]

💀 he forgor

[daring gale]

i guess the build is live on firefox

its not really meant to be live tho

[quasi carbon]

Doesent happen for me.

[daring gale]

prob bc youre on chrome

[quasi carbon]

noidontthinkso

[polar magnet]

But you said “browsers”. What else exists besides chrome?

[daring gale]

do you see this in the settings menu

[daring gale]

im assuming firefox does the same

browsers tend to keep keybinds consistent

for users' sake

[polar magnet]

Firefox? Never heard of it

[quasi carbon]

I dont noe

[daring gale]

then you dont have the update

[quasi carbon]

Thanks for fixing the non issue i wasnt having

[polar magnet]

Best dev

[daring gale]

which one

[quasi carbon]

whataniceguy

[polar magnet]

I think this was saying the shift E thing wasn’t opening the emote menu

[quasi carbon]

Thats right.

Cuz anatole so smart he didnt message firefox team to send me the update

[polar magnet]

I think maybe Mozilla decided you didn’t need the update

[daring gale]

well if u restart your furry web explorer youll probably get it

the build does have cool things aside from preventing you from typing a capital E

[polar magnet]

Yeah. It’s 100% worth

[quasi carbon]

oogabooga well here goes

[polar magnet]

it’s a ReALLY cool update tbh

[daring gale]

anson did u see the new setting

chillz

[polar magnet]

No I’m not home

[quasi carbon]

ppL emote button nevermind it did need a restart

[daring gale]

[polar magnet]

This is truly a pags tick moment

[inner sorrel]

peg stick

[daring gale]

that ones for you enzo

im pretty sure u asked for it

maybe it was someone else

[inner sorrel]

i didnt

[daring gale]

i could be mistaking for one of the many thousands of people i answer to daily

because i am quite popular

[quasi carbon]

Didnt even remember what browser i was using after changing every 4 months

[daring gale]

but anyway beta 5 is mostly just a big perf boost

also ffz compatibility

which is nice to have

[quasi carbon]

It did resonably well with ffz before keeping the sidebars swapped and such but i guess a few more things now then.

[daring gale]

i havent tested with bttv yet but im assuming it would work fine since they dont do any low-level hooking at all

so 7tv should be the only thing running in the chat when you have the beta extension on

all other extensions are locked out or disabled, which itself is good for performance + avoiding bugs

[quasi carbon]

Keep it to 1 miner

[shell schooner]

add a link to firefox version

[daring gale]

no

yea i will l8r

prob tomorrow where ill ping subscribers to test personal emotes

[naive hatch]

make it a link to a better browser

[eternal iron]

Thoughts?

[quasi carbon]

Very clever! Nice way to not get locked out on a samol samol res.

[polar magnet]

thank you

but will it still work when I'm watching streams at the native 160p?

(I actually do this)

(I have bad wifi and high res streams clog it up)

(I like watching streams at 100% scale so the pixels all heckin line up)

(It looks better and IDK why they don't just give you an option to do this without making the window a specific size)

[quasi carbon]

Yea thats fair enough i guess. Video gets a wee blurry stretched all to hell.

[polar magnet]

even larger resolutions look better at native size

look how sharp minecraft looks at native 360p

or 720p

[quasi carbon]

If only 7tv emotes were native 720p

[polar magnet]

well, some people are definitely uploading them at 1280x720

[unkempt hill]

wdym

you can preventDefault it

unless its a major keybind but I'm pretty sure that will just work always

yeah just tested in chrome and just even window.addEventListener("keydown", (e)=>{e.preventDefault()}) stops it

so it should work fine

even off an input box

[polar magnet]

yeah discord.com is what I use and that's where I learned about control e

so obviously there's a way

but also now I know how to quickly get to the search bar without using the mouse

[willow kite]

oh, no wonder you guys discussing about "Shift+E"

nice meme

[polar magnet]

shifty

[iron lake]

New extension seems to coming along nicely. Any particular areas one should focus on while beta testing?

[daring gale]

General use at this point really, try to find issues with reproducible steps

[rain bolt]

any reason my chat messages are kinda grayed out when I send them?

[rain bolt]

are my messages just never sending

[polar magnet]

That's what I assumed but I was TOO LAZY to just open chatterino and check for myself

[eternal iron]

There might also be issues with the current implementation

[rain bolt]

it’s basically every message

just to let you know

[deft tangle]

lol

couldnt help but notice how similar the new settings pane is to ffz

[unkempt hill]

copied bttv emote menu

and ffz settings

extension unity

[deft tangle]

assimilation

So i just killed my entire browser changing the emote spacing setting

Holy shit

[polar magnet]

I mean there aren't a whole lot of different ways to arrange settings

You don't want to end up with this

[deft tangle]

Lol

[polar magnet]

How is this acceptable?

It's still not fixed

Brian: I can't believe this

[unkempt hill]

i think they moreso mean that like everything is the same

not just the sidebar categories

thats normal

but like the changelog with twitter on the right

version on the bottom

little notch in the bottom left

[naive hatch]

every setting is so fucking burried behind 3-5 clicks

[polar magnet]

Nah I just mean the UI glitches

look closely

[naive hatch]

[polar magnet]

it'll just get stuck like this half the time

[unkempt hill]

electron based settings menu 😭

[naive hatch]

I dont think I've ever tried to resize it or at least didnt notice it before but holy shit

[unkempt hill]

first off

why u got an ltt theme

second off

why u on windows

[naive hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-trash-linuxbad-gif-18671901

[polar magnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVKi8cV-h_k

:)

[naive hatch]

I tried ubuntu like yeeeeears ago when my schizo andy friend convinced me to dual boot it. meanwhile dude was running arch and I swear to fuck it became his personality

I will say tho that the linux community as long as you aren't on some fucking obscure as shit 6 users build of it is pretty helpful to users trying to learn shit

microsoft you look some shit up and they are like shit bruh that sucks idk why its doing that I'd just factory reset imo

[polar magnet]

unironically though

Windows isn't meant to be fixable

[naive hatch]

true and they make a factory reset so fucking braindead and quick you're better off just taking the L on some settings you gotta fix and resetting

[polar magnet]

Right

I now store everything important outside my computer

and all the setup I need I've been moving to .bat files and .reg files so I can just run those to set up a fresh install

because I was having to do a fresh install so often

back when I was running on rotating HDDs

[naive hatch]

like if someone ever told my arch buddy "oh shit that's not good you're gonna have to fucking recompile everything from scratch." im pretty sure he would 🌩️

[polar magnet]

Arch is very personality-creating though. I can confirm.

[naive hatch]

oh for sure watching him build everything exactly the way he wanted it was cool AF but I was like bro im just tryin to play some TF2 with you and hes out here like

yeah I'll get it running in like 5 minutes

[polar magnet]

Gentoo is the one where you need to compile basically everything

whereas on Arch most of the stuff you use is pre-compiled

[naive hatch]

didnt you used to have the compile your kernel for arch?

maybe im not remembering what he told me correctly.

[polar magnet]

I mean you definitely still can, especially if you want special features in the kernel

because you make tailor it for your specific needs

but AFAIK you've never needed to

[naive hatch]

I meme about it but he was basically self taught/ followed forum posts and YT videos, and now has himself a pretty nice paying job because of his knowledge. I'm just dank/lazy and want shit that "just works"

[finite monolith]

@daring gale thoughts on animated avif being merged to firefox

Soon that is

[polar magnet]

It is being merged?

[finite monolith]

Yes

Into the dev version first

Then after a quality approval into the main branch

[polar magnet]

That's pagman

[deft tangle]

Notice some of my messages are greyed out when I type them in the new chat on the beta 6

Is that them not being sent, or just a visual bug?

[dull siren]

it's a visual indication that the message has not been sent

[deft tangle]

Got it

Now my question is, does this message not get sent at all? Does it get sent late? I havent seena greyed out message turn normal. Is there no visual indication for when the message does get sent after its greyed out?

[merry elk]

Towa, you sure? I have the same "problem" sometimes but if the streamer has emotes pop up on screen enabled my sent emotes still appear, so the message must have been sent.

[sinful forum]

I get that problem in fast chats. With the live version of the extension, all my messages get sent without a problem but when using the beta barely any of them get sent

[dull siren]

#stage-notes message

"- Added message send state indication: greys out sent messages until confirmed"

[deft tangle]

This

I think it's supposed to show when a message isnt sent, but it has also been bugged

[sinful forum]

Yeah i get that but why with the beta version it takes 10 years to "confirm" the message

[deft tangle]

I havent had that issue

[dull siren]

no idea then

[deft tangle]

Keep in mind I use previews and FFZ so it could be weird issues not buffed out yet

With intercompatibility

[sinful forum]

Im using just ffz and its happening a lot

I also seen a bunch of other people talking about it

and even without ffz it happens

[charred pendant]

clicking several emotes at once lumps it together into a single string

or in a row

[deft tangle]

Smooth scrollling should function when chat is paused and X amount of messages have built up, skip to the bottom of chat instead of trying to smooth scroll through hundreds of messages and freeze the tab

[tall reef]

[teal knoll]

pervert

[rain bolt]

2 suggestions:

this whole box should be a button for drop down, not just the arrow

and the background should be blurry, hard to read text over a stream with text on it

[unkempt hill]

yes this was my suggestion before

the arrow state shouldnt be different

than the tab open state

if your in the tab it should be expanded

[rain bolt]

huh

oh

yeah it's just annoying to navigate

[polar magnet]

[unique island]

Am I the only one who can't login with firefox?

nvm It might have worked, just not showing anything

[naive hatch]

are you referring to this?

if so it isn't fully implemented yet and doesnt do anything

[unique island]

Yea, ic.

[indigo swan]

Is there a way to fix the Clock ? 😄
And normaly i got a Alert from Pinging me how can i activate it again ?

[naive hatch]

should be fixed next update. it's a known bug.

[indigo swan]

The mention alert aswell ?

[naive hatch]

if people use @erynation to mention you then you should get a highlight but currently there isn't a custom highlight feature where they can ping you without using @

[indigo swan]

i mean like a alert sound

[sinful schooner]

has that ever been a thing with bttv or ffz?

[unkempt hill]

no

[sinful schooner]

i thought so

[unkempt hill]

theres a ffzap addon for it

in ffz

but thats it

addon to an addon

of an extension

[sinful schooner]

do you think itd be worth having in 7tv v3?

[unkempt hill]

i mean mention sounds are coming yes

[sinful schooner]

alright thats neat

[unkempt hill]

custom sounds have already been designed

[sinful schooner]

ooo neat

it does feel like a given

[deft tangle]

My messages are still getting greyed out like more than 50% of the time

Beta 7

[naive hatch]

anatole explained this one before. in faster/large chats your message doesn't always drop. in native chat there is no way of knowing this, but with the beta it's letting you know your message wasn't sent. feature is working as intended. its just a bit of an eye opener

[deft tangle]

Errr

Well no

[deft tangle]

Its happening in my own dead chat on my own channel

I tested it and messages were just all greyed out

[unkempt hill]

shadow banned

[deft tangle]

Lol

[unkempt hill]

do any spamming recently?

[deft tangle]

No

I was just chatting to you in robs channel

So like, do you just need to keep sending the message until it's not greyed out anymore?

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale how is this check done?

[daring gale]

i think it half doesnt work

[unkempt hill]

is it stored in a prop on the message

because if its not

you need to add it to v-memo

otherwise it wont update until msg also updates

[daring gale]

it's using a special message type

that i think

is actually an experiment

[unkempt hill]

is there actually feedback for this

there didnt used to be

so I figured you just copied chatterinos impl

of dual websockets

[daring gale]

nah yea i think its new

afaik @eternal iron discovered it but im pretty sure it's a twitch experiment

so not actually viable to use

will probably change it to a dual socket

[eternal iron]

Dont think its an experiment

[daring gale]

it has to be

sometimes i dont receive it at all

[eternal iron]

The websocket just responds with the message id instead of a nonce now

[daring gale]

which is indicative that it's been turned off

[daring gale]

i think we need to swap to parsing twitch irc soon tbh

it's getting a bit weird going thru this 2-step process of conversion

either way we need to do it in order to make our extension compatible without being on twitch

[deft tangle]

Still getting some really fucky behavior in the colon autocomplete menu

Definitely cause ffz is installed

[unkempt hill]

thats just what happens

same thing happens if you install ffz and bttv

twitch's autocomplete doesnt expect there to ever be two emotes with the same name

[daring gale]

@unkempt hill can we force off ffz settings without perma disabling them

cuz we could just

tick off ffz's coloncomplete

but then again i guess we plan on reworking this entire menu

so might be unnecessary to do that

[twilit halo]

majed6 is no longer AFK: (no message) (13d, 11h ago)

[peak shuttle]

nvm fixed by reopening in a new tab

[daring gale]

fixed what?

[peak shuttle]

Fix a bug where emote div blocks were multiplicating

[twilit halo]

majed6 is no longer AFK: (no message) (10h, 50m ago)

[peak shuttle]

Like this. I'll report, if it reoccurred.

It was covering that much of the UI. If it helps, whatever tab is opened during a beta update acts weirdly and have to be closed and new one opened.

The previous updates weren't that breaking for the twitch tab opened during the update. Usually they missed up the padding on left side of the chat container.

All in all. Maybe it's worth regress test the updating process with an active twitch tab.

[daring gale]

looks like missing stylesheet

[daring gale]

they arent multiplicating, there are about 11 of them. each contain 350 emojis

[peak shuttle]

ah

[daring gale]

this is on purpose so it loads lazily and doesnt lag the page

but they are meant to be invisible

[peak shuttle]

Nice! As I said. I only noticed it on the tab what was active during the addon update.

[daring gale]

best guess is id guess the stylesheet url changed when the addon updated

@unkempt hill do extension URLs change between updates on firefox?

it's static on chrome, always use the extension's ID, but not sure on ff

[peak shuttle]

Wouldn't it be cached then ?

[daring gale]

it's local files so no

[peak shuttle]

I see.

Maybe next update we could regression test what happens on an active tab before pushing the update. Let's me know if you want me to track something specific in the bugged tab.

[unkempt hill]

not even between updates

every browser start

ids are random

you cant rely on ids

[daring gale]

well ok theres ur problem

[unkempt hill]

yeah the only way is to use getURL

you have to

[daring gale]

yeah thats what i do

but i guess sometimes it doesnt work if the ids change inbetween

not sure

[unkempt hill]

well

I think theres also an issue

ive expereienced this all development

firefox is kinda retarded

when it comes to caching the stylesheet

[peak shuttle]

[daring gale]

el classico

[unkempt hill]

if you update without disabling and reenabling

it caches the old random vue ids

and then the new build

has different ids

[daring gale]

pog

[unkempt hill]

a fix for this I think

would just be randomize the stylesheet name

[daring gale]

i guess yea

[unkempt hill]

but yeah always happens to me

if I dont disable and reenable

after a vite rebuild

[daring gale]

the stylesheet bundling is primitive atm anyway

it all compiles into one file

[unkempt hill]

but I guess this issue also occurs if a AMO update happens while the user hasnt restarted

[daring gale]

yeah i mean that makes sense

[deft tangle]

So yeah, that message grey out thing is definitely bugged

Just saw my message come up on streamer's chat overlay despite the message staying greyed out in chat

:/

I cant figure out why it sometimes happens and why it sometimes doesnt

[novel portal]

not sure if anyone said this yet but if start typing alien and tab complete it wants to give me the emoji, just that it does that without colons

idk if thats an ffz influence or not tho

[sinful forum]

#beta-discussion message

I let anatole know about this yesterday

And it doesnt have ffz influence

[deft tangle]

Are we going to get that nifty little message that shows if a person was timed out or banned like ffz has?

[sinful forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1069080235062087782.gif?size=48

[vapid veldt]

yea you can fuck around with the colon and tab settings a bunch to your liking

[empty dawn]

When you use gendered Emojis, like "man-in-lotus-position", it will just show a standard Emoji and add an ascii gender sign to it. Didn't expect that.

Some other Emojis like women-holding-hands:-medium-light-skin-tone,-medium-skin-tone will show as one Emoji in the preview, but three seperate Emojis in Chat.

Also, I think it's too much to add every emote in every version (gender, skin tones etc.). If you use colon-completion with words like "women", "man", "hand" etc. my PC lags until everything is loaded and its hard to find what you're looking for, because there's so much with small differences.

[daring gale]

wdym?

is that rendered by the beta or another client

those emojis are very new so it'd be expected they dont work if youre looking via a different extension or something like chatterino

[empty dawn]

forgot to disable ffz while testing... seems like it's ffzs fault <.<

[vapid veldt]

[unkempt hill]

I beleive this may be a missplaced mitigation on ffz's part

tmi used to break emoji combos like this by blocking the joining character required

however if they reinsert it twice, our client wont see that as the same emoji

because we dont technically parse like that

we just look for known emojis

[polar magnet]

Number of emojis increasing exponentially

[unkempt hill]

not anymore

elon killed twemoji theres no more good live up to date emoji sets

i dont know if any have u15

we'll never get :moose: or :donkey:

or :peapod: back

@polar magnet nvm your right oh god

u15.1

will have a modifier

that doubles every single emoji

to make it face the other way

[polar magnet]

Stealing BTTV’s features smh

Emojis are WAY past their intended purpose at this point

There have been some good additions 🫵

But most are just bloat

[daring gale]

yeah i'll probably filter out all the skin tone modifiers

it multiplies the emoji count by 5

and i dont i ever see people unironically using skintone modifiers

like just be a normal person and use the default yellow one

[polar magnet]

[vapid veldt]

wdym killed it

[daring gale]

he fired every single person that was maintaining twemoji

there's no longer anyone with any direction on the project

[teal knoll]

time for us to step in

[unkempt hill]

and also wont release the version 15

it was finished around october, but never released and likely wont ever be

they also shutdown the cdn that was hosting the files for sites to use

[vapid veldt]

bruh

got rid of the one good emoji set

Cringe

[wet talon]

well, someone could still fork it and do unofficial updates for the 3rd party things like us, right?

[polar jackal]

I was out for 2 weeks so im kinda confused

https://f.feridinha.com/P9eJT.png

I'm I supposed to be able to use the paint and the personal emotes without sub?

[sinful schooner]

the paint yes, not sure about emotes

[naive hatch]

looks like sub only

[unkempt hill]

you are still a sub tho wdym?

oh your not

@daring gale wird

[daring gale]

uh might be cached? ask if other users see your personal emote

[sinful schooner]

no, my non sub friends have it baldman

[polar jackal]

just saw i still have the tag here, but i'm not a sub for now

[unkempt hill]

well they also have the role in discord and not on site

not sure how it would be related though but it could be

[polar jackal]

I tested it with a friend

He sees it

[polar jackal]

/shoutout [username] is kinda broken

it works but for some reason is showing me and only me some old messages I sent

Like if i sent it but it only shows to me

Idk if it shows to anyone else with the Beta 7, didn't test

https://f.feridinha.com/sop5S.gif

happens when i delete any message too

https://f.feridinha.com/yjSoF.gif

seems to be something related to the logs?

[unkempt hill]

[rain bolt]

when will grey messages get fixed

[naive hatch]

grey messages are working as intended. Anatole explains here. #1068349967246311564 message

[polar magnet]

the real question: When will Twitch stop dropping messages?

[rain bolt]

shadow banned on twitch

[deft tangle]

They certainly aren't working correctly as messages that stayed greyed out on my chat appeared on the streamers chat overlay.

There are certain periods of time where all messages stay greyed out until I refresh a few times

All messages go through whether or not they are greyed out in my chat. Tested using a second account in my own channels chat

[deft tangle]

https://i.imgur.com/AJK2ZCy.png

Further proof that the greyed out message thing is indeed bugged

I knew messages being dropped was certainly possible, but not nearly to the extent that the 7tv beta has made it seem

[rain bolt]

I KNEW IT

my messages grey out but still show up on streams

[charred pendant]

@daring gale decent idea 👇

[daring gale]

wat

[charred pendant]

when dragging your own message with the mod slider additional options could be added, drag a little bit to delete your own message, drag more to make an annoucement with the message, and more to pin it

thoughts?

[daring gale]

maybe but i think i'll just make a right click menu

feels like it would be more convenient

idk if people use the slider much

[charred pendant]

alright

maybe its feature creep idk

[daring gale]

i think people like the slider mainly for the random timeout values but i doubt more options would be very useful

any further message actions could make more sense in a right-click context menu

[naive hatch]

I'm definitely a mod icons or right click person as well. tho banning people by dragging them out of the chat is extremely satisfying

[random patrol]

ios mail app type beat

[polar magnet]

true

(iOS user type comment)

[scarlet rover]

the tab-complete emote preview stays showing after Ctrl+A Ctrl-Del, until there's a new input, Ctrl+Del alone works fine

well i retried and its random, not because Ctrl A

[sinful forum]

This is known

[scarlet rover]

it's actually happen if tab 2 times

[sinful forum]

You can reproduce it a lot by tabbing back and forth really fast and then deleting the text

https://imgur.com/6n1P1wv

[scarlet rover]

[rain bolt]

i have suggestion for extension v3

the ability to switch between streamer chats

and stay in the same window

so basically watch one stream but be able to chat in another streamers chat

chat hopper’s paradise

have saved chat tabs for streamers and stuff like that

[polar magnet]

I joked about Anatole recreating chatterino

He has the chat functional

I guess he could copy the rest of it too

It would be poggers

Like actually

[rain bolt]

i’m telling you bro

it’s gotta happen

[polar magnet]

And not the ironic fortnite poggers either

[rain bolt]

haven’t seen it in other extensions

definitely a feature to set it apart in a big way

[polar magnet]

Yes

The memory management if you have multiple tabs open could be tricky

But I’m sure not insurmountable

[rain bolt]

gotta be better than having multiple twitch tabs open

i’m sure the engineers in here could figure it out

[polar magnet]

Well yeah but I meant if you also then opened their stream

Ideally it would share the chat memory or whatever

But that sounds like a security risk that Chrome wouldn’t allow

Disclaimer: not a programmer

[sinful forum]

#general message

#general message

[polar magnet]

#general message

#general message

[rain bolt]

pausechamp.......

[vapid veldt]

[finite monolith]

how the hell do i check what the memory leak is from

it's from twitch

for sure

oh jesus fucking christ what the fuck

[polar magnet]

omegalul

[rain bolt]

yeah extension lags my shit like crazy after a few minutes

[daring gale]

thats fixed in beta 17, it was due to the max chat lines config sometimes being null

so it never deleted old chat lines

[rain bolt]

makes sense then lmao

thanks for fixing

[finite monolith]

oof nice thanks

lmfao

[rain bolt]

[finite monolith]

i am being possessed

fixed

hmm

@shell schooner would you say it looks better like this without an outline between

vs

or alternatively

i think not having the outline at all makes it look better

it also removes the line if you're pointing at a twitch emote that doesn't have any extra context

which previously looked ugly af

(i also added some padding because some square emotes made me mald at pixels)

[teal knoll]

too much namming going on

[finite monolith]

there's never enough namming

[teal knoll]

very true

[shell schooner]

It’s whatever tbh

I can’t really tell the difference

They all have outlines

[finite monolith]

fake designer

[unkempt hill]

yeah I agree with bubu

theres no reason to change this now

it looks perfectly fine

[finite monolith]

wtf do you mean it looks perfectly fine

[unkempt hill]

bro

you

[finite monolith]

asfosdklgopwelgkpdflhprephfgdpofh

[unkempt hill]

designed it

im not sure

if you remember

like a few months ago

[finite monolith]

i DID NOT add the outlines

[unkempt hill]

but you commited this

[shell schooner]

I’m looking at blurry stretched pics on my phone

[unkempt hill]

so whatevers in prod

is your design

LULE

[shell schooner]

Would have to test it live

[finite monolith]

its literally not

i did not fucking add this

[shell schooner]

Oh you mean the line separator

[finite monolith]

yes

[shell schooner]

deadass

[unkempt hill]

you did not

[shell schooner]

I was looking at the card outline

[unkempt hill]

make it seem

like thats what you were talking about

but also

I think it looks fine

[finite monolith]

nah look

there's literally no reason for it to be there

and it hurts my eyes

boom

[shell schooner]

I mean yeah it’s not really that useful

I don’t think it would matter much if we removed it

[finite monolith]

ok thank you i'm getting rid of it immediately

[unkempt hill]

pr denied

better luck next time

[finite monolith]

uhhh

i'm going to complain to uhhhhh

merge it now 😡

ah great, ci flakes

[polar magnet]

complaining about things that are displayed as pixels?

[shell schooner]

is that gap intentionally smaller compared to native?

[olive iris]

isn't that why this setting is for?

[shell schooner]

the chat looks the same if i change these settings

[finite monolith]

^

yep

it broke

[polar magnet]

I always assumed it was

More space for chat

Although that’s not necessarily desirable for pastas that rely on consistent line wrapping

[finite monolith]

it doesn't look bad

but it's a bit donk and usual

[shell schooner]

i mean i can see why it can be useful

but the settings are still broken

[tranquil mural]

Anatole is aware of this: https://discord.com/channels/817075418054000661/1090883945522008136

[fleet beacon]

Can we get Youtube support re-enabled how it was a few days ago? Sure @mentions and links were broken in chat but at least the emotes worked

[vapid veldt]

so is this just nightly discussion now

anyway reply + first message looks supa jank

[olive iris]

[polar magnet]

pixel complainers

[ornate badger]

We ignore that one.
How often will this happen ?

[vast parcel]

fwiw does the contributor badge not imply contributor role? someone saw the contributor badge in the chat and was suspecting me of somehow exploiting 7tv to get the badge without role on the website

but others who also got the contributor badge recently don't have it either so

[shell schooner]

nah the roles are cosmetic

[polar magnet]

The roles imply the badges

At least they used to

And at least for discord syncing

[untold chasm]

should probably fix this for consistency

[polar magnet]

Yeah

[unkempt hill]

you guys dont understand

EVERYTHING

about the cosmetics system is manual

manual db modification by anatole

even badge drops for subs

[polar magnet]

If only this weren't a joke

[untold chasm]

naaaah

[unkempt hill]

"joke"

ever wonder why it takes seemingly arbitrary amounts of time for badges to be handed out?

120% to the next badge

[untold chasm]

why not automate

[shell schooner]

cause Anatole doesn’t have enough work

[polar magnet]

I screwed it up. I meant to say "if only this were a joke"

I was sleep deprived

[shell schooner]

custom icon color

[woeful stirrup]

[shell schooner]

@void junco i didnt mean this as a feature

i thought this was just a bug

cause the icon color changes with the color of the message for some reason

[polar magnet]

it's cool though

[void junco]

should test what it does with other message colors

bug = feature

but I kinda liked that so I implemented it

[unkempt hill]

it is a bug

its just because the currentColor prop cascades through to the svg elements

since the icons don't have their color set properly, they just inherit it

[unkempt hill]

that pr is bad though

we should not use v-bind

its very fucky

causes extreme performance issues

(god knows why)

[void junco]

okay i guess it could be passed inline then

[unkempt hill]

it should probably be done the same way the rest of the chat styling settings are done

i left a review

[void junco]

alright

[void junco]

@shell schooner https://gyazo.com/36fb0896a22fc70faa0563e29d4a92dc

[shell schooner]

nice

[silk mango]

https://github.com/SevenTV/Extension/issues/556

[gleaming dagger]

i think y'all are missing some cheer emotes

CHEER_REGEX: str = r"(?i)(cheer(?:whal)?|doodlecheer|biblethump|corgo|uni|showlove|party|seemsgood|pride|kappa|frankerz|heyguys|dansgame|elegiggle|trihard|kreygasm|4head|swiftrage|notlikethis|vohiyo|pjsalt|mrdestructoid|bday|ripcheer|shamrock|streamlabs|bitboss|muxy|anon)\d*"

those are all the ones i have, "streamlabs" "bitboss" "muxy" and "doodlecheer" are all not shown on the bit menu, idk if this is a problem with the extension or twitch

[polar magnet]

what on earth is a doodlecheer?

docWTF

that is amazing

that is far superior to all the normandy cheers

[wet talon]

and the most surprising thing is that it still works

at least it did work when I used it in paja's chat a couple years ago

just replace the id of the normal cheer with "DoodleCheer"

i.e. DoodleCheer100

[gleaming dagger]

i use it all the time its my fav

[gleaming dagger]

yes it still works

[daring gale]

deploying a large refactor to nightly, might break 🙂

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale counter ping

[finite monolith]

[daring gale]

Not big enough

[finite monolith]

that's what she s-

[vapid veldt]

in 2023

[random patrol]

wtf when did 7tv go on kick

[polar magnet]

a while back

[random patrol]

damn

do we still hate kick btw?

i need to mindlessly follow what’s current

[polar magnet]

only racists stream on kick

so no. :)

[random patrol]

alright

[daring gale]

couple days ago if we're talking on stable

its a quiet release though im not including it in non-nightly changelogs for now

letting it cook a little

[polar magnet]

yeah that's good

let him kuk

[hollow sapphire]

so its normal that a new 7tv account is created when linking to kick?

[shell schooner]

not supposed to happen #help-old message

[coral linden]

hii

[summer goblet]

[gilded swan]

Hello, I was wondering, what if I buy a 7TV subscription and turn it off after a month, will the 7TV badges remain or will it be taken away until I buy the next month?

[polar magnet]

They don't get "taken away", but you won't be able to use them while you're not subscribed

[gilded swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059459530263642163/1095700201198583918/ezgif.com-gif-maker_1.gif

[sick sedge]

hi @daring gale
good morning.

aside the option of downloading Xtra-kick , it has the problem of delay and sometimes chat messages can't be as intuitive as regular mobile ui

---

so this is a method to enable 7tv for kick on mobile through Firefox

So at first you have to install Firefox nightly from Google play store

Then once you set up the basics of the app , go to settings tab and scroll down till you see about section.

Then once the Firefox nightly logo pops up, spam click that logo until it says debug menu enabled

Then you will see add on collection enabled . And install add on via file options under add ons section

Now in your Firefox go to 7tv. app website then download the nightly 7tv version . this will download a .xpi extension

now head to install add on via file option . then after that you click on it and find the file with .xpi extension for 7tv . after you installed and clicked on add , you can go to kick.com , sign in , then after completion . click on the 3 dots and click on add ons and click on 7tv nightly , set up the basics of the 7tv extension , then refresh the kick.com website , now let's say we go to xqc chat room , we can see that 7tv perfectly works for mobile ui ,

keep in mind I tried this in kiwi browser but ended up crashing .......

so Firefox is the best for this . I'm switching to Firefox for this.....

[polar magnet]

new copypasta

[shell schooner]

[daring gale]

bro what

[teal knoll]

firefox better

[daring gale]

the thing is i didn't even ask i don't know why he pinged me

[woeful stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-did-i-ask-i-asked-meme-get-real-gif-21114957

[dire heart]

can buy me pizza

https://tenor.com/view/scary-angry-pissed-mad-bro-gif-15623329942612229252

[woeful stirrup]

No

[tawdry sky]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-dancing-game-gif-16297750

[tawdry sky]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-dancing-game-gif-16297750

[candid carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/gupitaro-moo-cat-60fps-you-better-not-be-tweakin-gif-24530157

[tawdry sky]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-dancing-game-gif-16297750

[tawdry sky]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-dancing-game-gif-16297750

[hot fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-woo-yeah-gif-22862827

[dim wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-woo-yeah-gif-22862827

[scarlet rover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1049009643009085481/1204966950938345513/docGasm.gif

[limpid fiber]

Last

[tawdry sky]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-dancing-game-gif-16297750

[timid gale]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-dancing-game-gif-16297750

[tame spire]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-dancing-game-gif-16297750

[shrewd basin]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-woo-yeah-gif-22862827

[mossy monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/forsen-forsenpls-dance-dancing-game-gif-16297750

[daring gale]

https://stage.7tv.app

try again?

kk it crashes still, OOM

panic

the app crashes entirely

gonna see if increasing memory limit solves it

@proven hatch can you send me the file that's causing the panic?

[elder lichen]

my username is auror6s

[daring gale]

access granted and what in the fuck is this

[elder lichen]

my panels are a little too dank

[daring gale]

do what u want this is stage

it's completely isolated

doesn't affect the live service in any way

[elder lichen]

[daring gale]

so it seems larger files are causing a panic in general

im trying to figure out the cause of that

prob because the app crashed in between

from auro's upload

yea u can see why we needed a staging environment before pushing this to live

[elder lichen]

7tv incident of 6/23

[daring gale]

but the quality is so much better for the emotes that do go through it's unreal

The good news is that i'm now able to reproduce this issue locally so pinpointing it just became a hundred times faster

[elder lichen]

forsenL looks a lot more crisp on staging