#💬│palia-discussions
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when alpha?
when it's ready
yeah, but its fun to imagine
ok thanks
Good evening, capybara fren.
100%
As long as people don’t start expecting this stuff and then feel let down when it’s not reality!
i absolutely hold no expectations for anything i talk about, its just fun to play guessing games about it all
regardless, the hype is big big big for palia
HELLO CAPY FRIEND
capybaras are so funny i like em
And I think that’s great, but gamers have a way of letting hype get away from them and then acting like it’s the devs’ fault when they can’t meet it. I don’t think anyone around here is doing that but I just want people to manage expectations 😅
Hi we’re friends now
Human's are the worst at managing expectations xD
I gave up all my expectations for anything, since then im always positive surprised 😂😆
That’s the way
yo actually this is a valid concern, the devs should be trying to manage expectations
devs if you see this please do so
or dont i cant force yall
If there's grass, trees, and fishing, my needs will be met. Everything else is just treats.
It's hard to manage expectations when you're trying to keep things under wraps
well, at least set up a ballpark so to say
They can never meet all the expectations 100k+ players will have. How should that work
Also, expectations give them ideas. Maybe something wasn't thought of, or was considered too much effort until it gains traction in the community
Rather we should do that for ourselves :D
like a message like "the core game systems probably wont be fully fleshed out, or things will be added as the game grows post alpha"
It's not the devs responsibility to protect people from themselves. It's each our own responsibility to understand that we can't just get what we want
yk?
ofc, im sorry
It is alpha, that should be implied 🙂
It should be!
but im probably being a tad paranoid but
Let us hope for the minimum amount of features consistent with the game's progenitor: Stardew Valley.
Nothing to be sorry for!
if the expectations arent being managed, by the community or the devs, the expectations will be hecka high and when the game releases ppl would be like "yo this isnt anything what we thought of" and drop the game
I think the second survey implies that they also are looking to the community/participants for feedback on how to improve systems.
resulting in a stock market crash of popularity for the game
yeah, do you think thats why they asked what would u change about ur fav game?
im sorry, i just really like this game and would hate for it to fall apart yk?
That’s exactly what I want people to avoid doing :) We still don’t know what all this game does. So imagination is great but some of what people are hoping for is pretty wild
I think you're subjecting yourself to the very thing you're worried about, mate
wydm?
How so?
A lot of people will leave this game at release, but it will likely be for all the usual reasons. They won't like the graphics or they'll naturally lose interest, or they'll have expected PvP or something else that isn't included. But that'll be okay, because the people who want what Palia offers will stay and word will spread rapidly that there's a chill option in the MMO market.

Please keep in mind pre-alpha, alpha and beta are for testing purposes. If you're looking to jump in the game and just have fun and play it, you may get bored and run out of things to do. Things are not gonna be finished, features are not gonna be implemented.
We don't know how the pre-alpha is gonna work, it may be that only one feature be available for testing at any given time
Yup exactly. They've reiterated it a number of times but pre-alpha is not Early Access.
I hope i will feel comfy with the camera and movement, some games i realy cant play because the movement animations and cam isnt ok for me
I wouldn't be to worried here honestly. While we do see a lot of Cancel Culture and how harsh a Community can be if expectations are not met (see Cyberpunk 2077) we also have some beautiful examples where Games failed at first but are now really good and popular among players because Devs and Players didn't give up on the Project (Final Fantasy 14, No Man's Sky). And with the Power of Influencers (Twitch, YouTube), even if the Game has an unsatisfying Start, with just a few of the bigger ones recommending it once it's good and playable, the wheel can still be turned around.
But honestly, I just want to believe that nothing like that will even have to happen in the first place because we just got a beautiful, social and patient Community here. 🙂
Ye, getting pre-alpha key is a responsability, but also dont forget to have fun while playing it!
I was talking about Citrus. Just seems like he has high expectations for the game we know very little about.
Ah, got you!
yeah, you guys are right, i need to lower my expectations
im sorry for wasting yalls time
Throw it away 😂
Yeah, just pace your excitement mate.
Don't say that Citrus, it's understandable we all are very excited about it!
Paliy'all come back now
i just need to take it down a level

Just realize this is just going to be a game and we won't see a full, complete version of it for a long time.
You're not wasting time, i do believe that its a conversation that needs to be had from time to time 🙂
Hyped but im also fine with the alpha beeing just a mess and manbe server are dying all the time due to unforseen bugs
I'm very excited about the game, but I've been disappointed by games so many times before that I know to keep my expectations in check.
And also those of us who are lucky enough to get into the pre-alpha, alpha, beta and so forth will be expected to tell them what we do and don't like about the game in its current state, to tell them features we'd like to see etc., so hang on to your ideas! But just realize that your ideas may change once you've actually played it
Exactly!
We all also have our own expectations based on our own experiences. We don't actually have any clear ideas on how any systems will work currently except maybe fishing, and that hunting has a reticle.
Which is why I really like that they did the extra questionnaire, to get the people who are actually involved into the test, instead of any random person who signed up.
speaking of witch, whens the next team answers drop?
Yup XD Right now, if Palia had every single idea that I've seen people post in this discord, it would be literally the biggest game ever made, haha.
Still more than 6 thousand filled in the second survey, so you might not get in
The biggest, my chaotic, non cohesive game. lol
I'm looking forward to al;pha being filled with glorious, hilarious bugs we can all laugh at years later and make in jokes about.
Yuuuuuup
Yes, and you'd be able to see it all from the top of the ferris wheel.
Speaking of 2077 - S6 Nightshade jsut started playing ----- >
its like we're all looking in a restaurant at the food and trying to critique it, but until we actually taste it theres not much we can reasonably critique
lol
That's how community inside jokes start

bro cyberpunk 2077 was such a letdown, not trying to start a fight or anything, thats just my opinion and should be treated as such
Like people who start playing after release having no idea what a whiteboard means 🙂
LOL
Some people still come in here and find this out..
"Pvp? oh? no pvp? no HP?.. What about combat? So there might be combat.. okay, we will see then.."
Imagine a whiteboard emote with your name always spelled backwards on it and new players absolutely confused at its existence
Ciao
You too!
bye
Oh we need to have whiteboards outside our house so we can leave messages for our friends
There's no HP? Thought it was just no PvP tbh
Ye, i wonder how they will manage that
HP?
Yeah I love the "So you're saying there's a chance" PvP people, bless their hearts
Cos if we have to explore certain accidents might happen no?
Hit Points, health
As far as i am concerned with dev answers... one of them said "No hp, or char death.."
You faint, but don't die?
Hmm
no stamina either..
They also said they had a stamina system in for collecting resources and eighty-sixed it
Maybe they'll have 'energy' instead of HP, so if you're hunting or fighting a thing, you run out of steam and have to exit combat to rest for a while. I do imagine there'll be some sort of fantasy combat element, it just won't be the main event of the game.
Mmm, it's hard to imagine a combat system, but I'm very intrigued to see what they come up with
Character death? no death, or health even
from faq, interesting.
This is one of the reasons I always coach people to manage expectations, because a lot of people are still thinking this game has systems very much like other MMOs which it really seems not to
I love not knowing.
This is why I give people the FAQ doc with alot of early dev answers and the team answers..
I'm actually both curious and hopeful. It sounds like it could do some great things if it works. I mean, imagine no more "LFG TANK Must have XXX and YYY" in chats. It would be lovely
Also, this is pre-alpha. It's entirely possible they don't get a great response to some systems and end up overhauling them to something more traditional
Speaking of which.. For those who haven't seen it yet.. Here are some places to check what we know so far: #❔│game-faqs , #❓│old-team-answers-alpha , and the unofficial FAQ document fan compiled dev answers from the locked #❓│old-team-answers-pre-alpha https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1ECHPsDvyC0KP6ldYRaeFtmR0mhwBVGckWEPcH_zNc7E
Palia Unofficial #ask-the-team Compilation The document contains all the responses from the devs in #ask-the-team on the official Palia discord. I categorized them in a way you can easily understand what they are talking about without adding the actual questions. (I removed repetitive answers in ...
"LF Hiking Partner, please bring a dog with, ty <3"
@celest maple Yeah there will be a LOT of changes between now and release. I've seen games get completely turned around from what they were even in beta to launch.
Yeah, new world comes to mind
Look at FFXIV it was redone after release lol
Getting folks to remember that this is a testing phase primarily is also a hard thing now with so many early release and paid betas out there.
Lots of people seem to think "Neighborhoods" implies group housing instances... but as far as I know.. No group housing instances, it is JUST what they are calling "Guilds"
Yep. They've straight up said that what direction they go with some systems will depend on alpha/beta feedback
or No Man's Sky
hey so, as a chapaa, am i supposed to be mad at chu people?
Nah, we all love the same critters 😄
@jaunty leaf Abolutely! FF14 is a completely (and a lot better) now. It's initial first launch was...trash. Pretty trash..but trash.
Loving one more does not mean disliking/excluding the other
Hey again its Friday works over time for a fun weekend
We are Chuu !
Nice pun in a way.. Nah.. the whole chapaa vs Chuu lost it's novalty after about the 124th fight.. xD
you fight till death do not listen to talkers of peace they are but naive and delusional
but the Chapaa vs Chuu arguments were nothing compared to other heated debates..
This is very true. My name might be Absolutely Simuel by the time launch gets here.
6000 people signed up for pre alpha?? I wonder how many have actually beta tested, much less have the patience for pre-alpha testing. Right now I think it's nap time! Later guys and balls!
Imagine the remove the role, but before they do, they give everyone with the role a special code so they can have an alternate art version of their chosen critter in game
If possible it take the opportunity to get out of work earlier on fridays 👀 Most of management only does a half day anyways so noone notices
"But I want my opinions about monetization heard"
Well i was trying to be discrete about it..
when you work from home getting out early is easier
Wait is there not going to be avatar customization?
At least, because not everyone has upvoted the comment. I would multiply it by at least two-ish
I'm not afraid to speak Voldemort's name out loud
THE DUSCUESSION WHICH SHALL NOT BE NAMED
caps please
Lmaoo
I hear you but best time to learn is right now on a project you can be passionate about
Basic at first, but it will be expanded as the game develops.
Wow! But that means a lot of interest in the game and that's good!
SORRY WHAT DID U SAY I CANT HEAR U OVER @faint dawn
SORRY WHAT DID YOU SAY I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER @static mango
what?
LOL
xD
DID YOU SAY MY NAME EIGHTY? SORRY I DIDNT HEAR U
WHAT WAS THAT? I COULDN'T HEAR YOUR SHOUTING OVER ALL THAT SHOUTING
now that i think about it what would be the korean version of writing everything in capslock ? do they write 느낌표? xD
WHY ARE WE SHOUTING IM GOOING DeAf-
Ok that's enough of that XD
Can you guys not?
Korean doesnt have caps i believe
They don't i have a korean keyboard 🙂
Oooh
steals some of GreenTurtle's popcorn
When you're in this chat as long as some people have been, you just look for ways to lighten moods and have fun.. xD
t’s no more possible to capitalize a Korean word than it is to write English in hieroglyphics.
Exactly, especially when it's relatively slow. We're all going a bit stir crazy waiting on those invites XD
underline it, bold it, increase the font size,
COOL DEATH FIGHT DEATH FIGHT
I CANT HEAR U GIRL BOSS
Like initiating Chapaa chaos 
🤣 🤣
I wonder if NPCs are going to have spoken voice lines in this game or if it's all going to be the hums, hoots, and monosyllables we hear in the trailer... or maybe NPCs speak and PCs only do the grumbles and such?
I got yelled at this morning for going "off topic" in this chat 😒
👁️ 💟 🇺
you did not lol
Acceptable if Zeki gets purrmeows and smug chuckles.
Oh absolutely
i was talking about communism and the mods encouraged it 🙂
I think good voice actors really bring the game to life
that didn't really happen either
But what about if you write in twitch for example, i always just spam "something + ㅋㅋㅋㅋ" so i don't really yell (And i don't get most of the convos 👀 ). The only thing that i can imagine is beeing more passive agressive.
Panic!
Pre-ALPHA PANIC!
They must choose wisely, for as good voice actors will bring life, false voice actors will take it from you

Good and bad sides of both. They can be much more creative down the line if they don't have voice actors, but it does bring life.
Panic at the pre-alpha disco?
Fire chapaa is my favorite emote in this entire server...
Hoots and grunts are a pretty good middleground to keep costs down, for one, and if the voice talent can't be kept, it's much easier to replace a hoot than an entire manner of speaking.
Agreed
as long as it's Critical Role peeps and the turtle lade from WoW, I'm good lol
just admit it 95% of everyone here on chat will not get a e-mail
but false hope is the only hope i have
If I don't, i'll still be here..
And now Panic at the pre-alpha disco with their hit single "I write aplha applications not tragedies"
girl boss
Same
Never fear, friend. Even fool's gold looks pretty in a curio.
I am at the 5%
Pre-alpha is not why I'm here.
Zaldir is here to get free food
Yup
I don't think it's important to focus on who gets in and who doesn't, it's just going to breed malcontent, we should really focus on how much work the developers and others put in
#🌠│official-art is why I'm here.
Can’t wait to not get an email and be happy for the people that did so they can have fun testing the game 
NOMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
The idea of the game is charming. It'll be nice to take a break and focus on relaxing.
need more #❓│old-team-answers-pre-alpha, thats all I ask for lol
Yeah it's been said many times but we have a very, very small chance to get in. There are only 1,400 pre-alpha slots while the entries are many, many times more than that
Everyone better offer~~ sacrifices ~~ Offering to WoahNonStop as he overlooks the applications..
eddy did you draw that landscape on a phone?
It's closed
Expect not to get in, tbh
there will be very little relaxing in Pre-Alpha LOL
mad lad, it looks amazing tho
yea, waiting for the team-answers/submit-your-questions st uff.
thank u 😄
Pre-alpha will be stressful, but worth it.
Need to write more wiki pages
I think they will open up questions in July again it says
I wonder if Palia will have dolphins, and if they'll be called endolphins for all the endorphins Palia will bring. 🤔
That’s okay if we don’t get in though, cause eventually we’ll all get to play a cosy (and complete) game 😅
Hahhah
Submit your offerings to EINAR!!! 
#💬│palia-discussions message
at least Palia isnt doing like a lot of games and selling the keys
Someone fight breezeshadow
not on my message on the mods.. xD I wanna see how high we can make that number in time...
did both
Brezeshadow's got a lot to answer for!
LOL
Also take in mind that the pre alpha will most likely not have the full game but perhaps a section of the game
better be the aquatic one!
Also anyone get a chance to see the new little art piece they dropped in official art?
ok devs look if u cant give me a shore to fish off of just give me a puddle, please, at least
I was looking for some office art
You all saw nothing smokebomb
Can't make any tupos here!
Sure did see the art. I'm intrigued by the little hints of ruins here and there
I expect you to be able to fish in the village fountain.
Does the village have a fountain?
it has a river running through it
Uhm
at least the one shown in the trailer
What kind of village square doesn't have a fountain!?
i will literally put fish in the village fountain or take on volunteers to swim in it
The AUDACITY
so that i cna fish in there
I would gladly swim around and pretend to be a fish in a fountain
https://i.imgur.com/JdrW6X3.jpeg its a flower bed
I will volunteer to be a fish
The broken globe totally collects water when it rains. Fish in it.
God that's so gorgeous every time I see it. I can't wait to hang out there at night

I hope the village doesn't change much from that
No joke, I look at that picture and I can almost hear it. It's lovely.
I wonder if we'll be able to craft our own golems
mini Einars 0.o
Right I can just hear the hustle and bustle of the town with some birds chirping
I just want to explore and spend tons of time in town talking to everyone
I hope Einar is not the only robot.
Yup and slight soft hollow wood sound of the lanterns swaying in the breeze, some not quite heard faint music, and the murmur of voices.
Stargazing with friends in the middle of nowhere with nothing but
to light the way.
confirmed.
OMG yesssss
Jina has a golem.
I need caffeine.
Be a reporter and have a mini golem with a little painting kit,
Paint the scene your reporting about.
jina my beloved
I would loooove to have pets to interact with
Ahh true!
jina best girl
Maybe being able to hatch eggs/breed cutie coat patterns-- if the devs don't want to invite that sorta stuff in, maybe have an adoption centre for animals < o >
the next character release is the 28th?
yes
wait no, the post was a week old?
I would love to have little cute housepets even if we can't have livestock.
They did release a character yesterday
I can't wait I've been collecting all the new character sheets
Yeah, but it wasnt a Monday which is why im confused
I might be big dumb
tamala got released monday, which the post is referring to. eshe was a bonus character
Ohh I got it. They released Tamela this weeks monday. But because we got over 8k votes, they also announced Eshe
wait i responded to the wrong person 🤦♀️
we didnt get to 8k but we tried really hard T.T
its at 8k now
9.2k even, I did the maths
a little late but yeah
But where is the villager vote for next Monday??
The devs are nice and gave us Eshe anyways 
I'm sure we got the reveal so Nel didn't have to re-do the calendar * again * lol
@faint wind It's okay, I glanced over, saw it was for someone else 😛 As long as everyone can overlook my typos a misaddress is NBD:P
Next week the devs might be busy with something, I'm not sure what though >_>
Oh god, I hope nobody marks me down for typos. Might as well write in red ink.
Saaamme
yeah who knows what theyre gunna be doin next week 👀
It's a mystery
Whatever could it be.
pre alpha
this!!!!
Pre-alpha personality test

I hope the existence of bug lady means we can catch and keep bugs
how many people will be selected for pre-alpha?
1400
1400
1400
1400
1400
1401
1400
1400

thanks man
lol
😂
Haha

fourteen hundred
👀
😐
we ❤️ u 9000
nice glowup whoa haha
I must get ready for work and dream of a small Golem village 
Have a good day
Thanks!
I feel like we got some kind of confirmation on bug catching at some point but maybe I'm just making that up... 🙃
yeah i remember seeing something about catching bugs
whether it was a skill or not though i dont remember
Nice
is 9000 the open alpha?
All the information we have, it's tough to remember what is 100% confirmed and what is speculation sometimes lol
i think it was in an article
Ooo...you could decorate your house with tiny glass jars with shimmerflies in them 🙂 Maybe even use them for lighting
youve reminded me i have to finish watching dbz so i can finally watch super...
Omg he changed his PFP :o
YE
I noticed that too
Had too - people we're starting to think I was yung gravy instead of weird al
He's evolving!
A combo meal of both?
throw them real hard and make it a pic from 10 years ago
Ya'll don't want that trauma.
also who is yung gravy 🤔
Some rapper - I had no idea until someone else told me. :3
I had to google that one too
fair lol i thought you looked just fine, 2010 was a different time haha
Not the dumbest rapper name I’ve ever heard but thats not saying much
everytime i see vad typing i htink its vlad and get a little exited
Hello 🐼
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Hullo Panda!
o7
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Lilikoi Lychee or Mango drink?
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Does anyone else just take their shoes off at work?
I work from home, so yes
At the office? It happens.
Yeah. I’m a SAHD though so make of that what you will.
I don't even wear socks, work from home tho
yes, esp when I raise my desk and stand on the massage thingie
I mean I work from home now, but yeah did used to
I knew you all were my type of people
looks around and quietly takes off shoes
Comfy is needed in uncomfortable place
Whoa was wearing shoes on his shoes, so when he took off his shoes, he was still wearing shoes.
you cant fool us, we know you never had shoes on!
Impostor!
I can't wear socks...we have hardwood. I would spend more time on the floor than walking 😛
Hardwood and socks works wonders. Best with wool!
roller skates on hardwood floors is a terible idea D:
you would scuff up your floor so bad
wait, I
That settles it then, I'm getting grippy socks
Wool socks and just slide across that floor.
What is panda terrified of?
I'm confused, why would you fall when wearing socks on hardwood floor?
You know what makes hardwood floors and socks even better?
Butter?
LEGOs
no
Marbles
oof!
Oh, you are way more evil than I was expecting
Is there anything that LEGOs do not improve?
You want to try stepping on a uk plug
honestly my first thought was old time rock & roll
lol. little tom cruise action 🙂
they are very slick shiny hardwood. Even our cats don't run on it because they end up colliding with things because of furry feet. 😛
never stepped on one, but I've seen how bad they are lol
whoa has a very chaotic energy
Is that what we're calling it?
grayhound + hardwood = unhappy puppers
you must clean your floor to the point of it being polished haha
As he should??
Legos are like a light massage in comparison lol
I think it's just the top coating on them. They're relatively new and have a special treatment.
my two scooby-doo through the kitchen lol
I have a new puppy who has the constant zoomies, watching him on my hardwoods is entertaining to say the very least 😛
Yeah watching my floofiest boy skitter in place before he can get some actual traction is hilarious. It's like a cartoon.
I want Palia minis that I can paint. Or .stl files I can print and paint
A cat with the zoomies on hardwoods is also great, lots of running in place
Zoomy cats in general are hilarious.
But now... I sleep 
Lots of drifting too
this week is gunna go by so slow
Zoomy cats are hilarious-until they're doing it on top of you when trying to sleep -.-
My old panther is way too decrepit for zoomies now 😦
Right? I thought waiting a day or two for the stream was bad but
He's a huge black bombay manx. 24 pounds. Not much fat on him.
it feels like its been longer than 2 days since they said T.T
Aw, lots of head scritches to the old boy
Probably better they don't zoom then..that's gotta be painful on a collision or a sudden leap.
He's sitting in a chair next to me, he's 14.
We just have 18lb ragdoll and he's bad enough.
Aw, mines 14 now too
Many pets for big kitty boy.
I got him a memory foam pillow for his chair.
lol someone get spoiled (as he should be)
Mines around 10 and she still can run up the wall and smack the ceiling... I swear my cat has infinite energy.
Yeah we also have two half bengals. ... they are perptual motion acrobat thieves. -.-
I seriously considered sedating them a little as kittens. -.- They had 0 chill.
I'm kinda glad he's old, he was the neighborhood hunter, and always brought his kills inside to my wife... Snakes, birds, other large animals 😦 Nothing like going to bed and finding a snake or rat in it.
Also made me slightly appreciate what it must be to have a pair of hyper three year old gymnasts.
Aw he was just trying to keep you well fed and protected.
Yeah, I know mine would do that so she is an indoor only kitty. She instead leaves her favorite toy on my pillow if I'm gone for too long.
My floof gifted us with half a mouse once. Since then he just brings them back whole...and apparently still alive. (The first one woke up and ran away and I was glared at for two weeks)
heey all how is everybody doing in chat
afternoon folks
inventory expansion bags
Ooo good question.
Little bags! ^^
Maybe cats can keep chaapa/chuus away
miniature mule or cow 😭 💕
Pest control? Keeping the chapaas out of the garden
Hunting companion pets would be neat.
its sad that i saw pest control and immediately thought of runescape
miniature Yakmoos?
Deer/Elk has become my favoured mount after the one in DA:I
I loved that mount.
ya'll next week can't get here fast enough
It really can't
3 more days
I just wanna celebrate everyone who got in honestly
yep, happy for those that got in
I have a three day weekend don't rush it too fast lol
:x
honestly the Pre-Alpha just means we are one step closer to everyone getting to play and I can not wait for that!
its gonna be so fun to play this with all of you and get to have ALL the adventures
Yeah, seeing progressing is awesome. Can't wait to see it whenever I get to.
Hey Palia fam. Have a little bit of time to jump in chat to see how everything’s going!
I need sleep so will say hi and bye
Haha, hey and bye!!
hey hey fren ❤️
Hey Britt!! ❤️
ive been watching Exandria Unlimited all afternoon - what have you been up to ?
Decluttering the house.
On a vacation with my parents. A little downtown in the room until we meet again for dinner
Hello you guys
thats productive! good job ❤️
NOICE! 😄
cool 😄
What’s impossible?
I know! Pre-alpha was announced a week away…and dead quiet!
i'm working on my 50th paliasona sketch
show
i may be quiet but my mind iss occupied by palia uwu
Are we getting a new villager vote today?

I don't know, but you can get the villager vote role and be notified?
True, I have it set-up
I assumed as much, but figured I'd mention it in case that option was offered after you had picked your roles initially ^_^
I’m moving in a month or two and really need to do this… but I hates it… lol
Good mythical afternoon everyone
I collect interesting items and then, every 6 months, decide to arrange them more practically. Currently, I'm trying to decide whether to mount the mask collection to the wall, the ceiling, or hang them off of household objects.
I have no idea
I like the idea of hanging them off household objects, but also arranging them in a neat way on the wall because I am clumsy and would probably knock them off of stuff >.>
ceiling, randomly facing down to stare at your guests
GreenTurtle passing by . . . I don't want to interrupt your conversation. However, please only use this channel for Palia related topics. For other topics, you can use the #💬│off-topic-chat channel. Thank you 
slaps her own hand bad, Sarah. You tell people to do that then don't listen to yourself....
heellooo pumpking ❤️ how you doin mate
So, anything new since the stream yesterday? I got busy and didn't get to check in afterwards
I am doing well and how are you?
One more hour of work phew 😅
I forgive you. Palia links easily back into real life, so I can see why it happens. We're all just very interested in getting to know each other, and hopefully we'll have a game to do that in within the next few years.
i'm good thx for asking 🙂
they released a new official art, looking juicy
runs to art and oohs and ahs
@lavish osprey so I hear you're a huge fan of FFXIV Housing 😂
cries nothing, not even Palia will beat SWG housing. But it will be a very close second from what they are saying
SouthWest Gas Housing, Secure Web Gateway housing, Standard Wire Gauge Housing
what is SWG 😭
I can't wait to be eternally dissatisfied with my decorating lol
Hope we can pick everything up and rearrange
That's the secret to decorating in games, every day you go in and move 3 things, either adjust it on the shelf or put it away or move it to a different place
lol
Omg I never played that game but I heard it was SO good
'messy' is one of the hardest things to decorate for. I hope they let us put things on the floor, and stack them. Pitch/roll/yaw would be amazing, too
I’m super curious how involved decorating is gonna be
According to the trailer it looks pretty complex
They said you won't be able to put things inside another (visually) but that you can crowd things on a table
I just hope you can freely place and angle things, without being confined to a grid
I have to assume it’s gonna be similar to AC in the sense that items are on a grid that you can place in 3D space
That's exactly what I was thinking of lol
I guess the important question is how big is the grid
I just wanna put chairs at an angle, gdang AC
they need to do a poll on what subject their next twitch will be, we all want to know about skills, but decorating is going to be important to a majority of us, and its one of the foundation mechanics that the game will be built on, so probably not going to be changing much in the future
I'm not expecting the full experience of some games, but I do at least want the same quality as what was in wildstar if they can.
@ me when we get a golem romancing stream
fite me! Einar is my unrequited love! I will give him all the pebbles!
I believe they said somewhere (can't remember where) that einar won't be romance npc
I would be surprised if he was, lol
yeah, being a golem, he probably doesn't understand that whole aspect of people, he just wants to fish
pretty, pretty pebbles
Einar voted most popular target of parasocial relationships
What if fished people instead of fish?
Do fish that have been caught and released go back to their school raving about aliens?
yes, but no one believes them, and that's why they are still so easy to catch
Now they do LOL
So: we know NPCs are romanceable. We can see that all the NPCs so far in the game are Palians (elves) or humanoid animals. This raises some interesting questions about the errr mechanics of those romances
(or golems)
I want background audio to have townsfolk talking about how Tamala seems to be visiting every human that shows up in town late at night
No more than real life mechanics, they all seem to be humanoid, Tab A into Slot B for hetero, consent above all else.
Or have an asocial NPC who gets cranky at the sudden influx of super social humans chatting everyone up 😛
"Get off my lawn, dammit!"

I suppose there will be no social taboos around crossbreeding
the big question is: will there be babies?
Damn humans can't shut 'em up.
I was wondering if we would have babies too
most races are probably not fertile with other races, and there are no babies to start with, but I read somewhere that they are considering if/how/why to put them in
I doubt PC children would be a thing...that's a pretty big thing to put in if you want them able to grow up.
Even if procreation and offspring aren't a thing in the game, it's implied I'd think
Oh I seen the word taboos & just had a new idea ... our character getting tattoos?
My guess would be no, unless they turn into a kid who just chills on your farm lol
More importantly: Can you put em to work
That's a good idea, I hope we can
Oooh, I want tattoos!
then you have the whole group of issues around children in a 'family but not children's game'
the pervs will come out from under their rocks
Stardew Valley had babies, but I think it would be hard to do crossbreeding. Most games just give the baby your partner's hair color.
I feel like they will no matter what you do anyway tbh. They are pervs after all 😦 Ruining everything
Yep. The FFXIV devs have said that the mod community is the reason why they don't put many child NPCs in the game.
You will always have some problematic members of a game. you can't keep all of them out.
Nope, don't like that
yeah, that is a big issue and probably the biggest thing preventing 'let someone play a child'
I could see them having voluntary bloodlines and families like in Lotro, though
Where you basically choose who you're related to and how
I only met one person who prefered playing child characters, and I pray that I never meet them again
People who like playing infantile characters are typically problematic in any system.
I think you guys are touching on subjects that they would prefer not discussed here.
so crossbreeding probably won't even be a thing in the game
im interested in jobs, how interactive they will be or if theres jobs at all
Let's not talk about that anymore kthx
Yeah you know, I think your right
It's just a bit much
Skirting but yeah maybe a little too close.
I think the current implications are that we'll be able to master skills whereas NPCs will provide the job services. We might unofficially be able to run a business out of our houses, but there's a lot that remains to be seen.
ooo tattoo artist as a profession!
I imagine there will be a job board, with npc quests or something
I'd also like to eventually see it so characters can run shops if that's what they want to do.
But could we upload them or just have to pick off the wall ?
Interior decorator, I imagine, will be a popular player 'profession'.
I've known a lot of people who have been fascinated with the idea of running things like taverns and cafes
I would need to hire one of those
Upload runs into the whole 'inappropriate content' that we all know will happen if you let players design their own things
Yeah things like EQ2's playerstudio had a raft of people just to vet items.
raises hand thousands of hours in Galaxies decorating
I'm really interested to see how the trading is in the game, whether its something like the auction houses in other games or perhaps something more akin to ESO with it's guild traders
I want stuff like rare items to find/unlock for decorating, and seasonal items that aren't a trial to get.
I'm with you. I want to be able to go find a leaf and slap it on my wall.
I hate when I can't get a whole set of something because it's a pain and time runs out
They could do also things like some asian games where your character can be set up as a vendor when you go offline-but I don't think they will.
Will there be PVP in the game 
Nope
I want to be able to color things so they match, I may have the same couch that 8 bajillion people have , but I want mine to be autumn red
I hope its a mix, I want cool stuff but I also want to be able to earn some rarer stuff that feels worth the effort
Oh yes! The more decorating things I can pick up from the environment the happier I will be... though my inventory will burst at the seams.
No pvp combat, only hunting, no health, energy, or death
Inventory manager, the second most popular player profession.
LOL
I can't wait to explore without the fear of getting rekt at night lol
I say not a pain by "travel and do x activity to get Y token" and then maybe 10 tokens for a single item. Not something silly like 1000. And not something like "do this obscure and highly difficult raid to get one item"
would be cool if theres pvp
Cool rare stuff but it should be year round so everyone has the chance to get it. Seasonal stuff should be easy to obtain
Theoretically it wouldn't be too hard .. a simplified form of DNA can be incorporated .. say 5 pairs of chromosomes ( instead of 23 ) with say a total of 50 or even less dna elements that define various factors that are transferable. But seeing as the children are based on the player and player/npc partner. Perhaps at the character creation stage you can place x amount of DNA points in certain DNA elements which are then used to influence your gameplay. Kinda like skill points in action games. These DNA elements can then be 50/50 chosen between the parents and the one chosen becomes the childs set of chromosomes. Which will then affect their actions/reactions on the world and any future gemerations ( if that was to become a thing - obviously with limitations .. say one child at a time and that child is replaced with a grandchild etc and the parent of said child 'moves away leaving their child with the grandparents'. Or some such thing. I've been waiting for a game that does something similar to this for a long time. But, maybe something similar to Sims is the next best thing with a random button for a choice.
Ahh I understand what you mean now, and I completely agree
Thats one hefty paragraph
I wouldn't mind having to collect 100 leaves to make a 'pile of leaves' chair though.
I would also like stuff like scavenger hunts for items too. Like maybe things that have six pieces all hidden around maps.
rofl .. it was rewritten 3 times to cut it down
I would go for that I think...it would drive me batty though. Especially if they had colour variants. 😛
I'm kinda sad at the one character limit to start with....Imma need a bank toon or three. 😛
they said one toon for testing, they have not decided for release
they'll wipe the pre alpha progress
Eventually they're going for that, but also remember that they're going to be wiping
Guild Wars 2 has a 'mystic forge' which is basically a universal crafting table. It can be used to craft, upgrade, and convert items, has a random chance to provide extremely rare items, and is useful for people who wind up with an excess of certain items. They also occasionally add secret recipes to the forge that the community figures out and shares around, so that's a nice element of surprise too.
Not sure how I'd want that implemented in a game like Palia, but I enjoy the spirit of it.
Your house is gonna look like a junkyard with random items all over lol
So even if you made multiple characters they'd all go away
Is there an EST on when pre-alpha will be?
I'm with dkonen though, for release I hope there are multiple character slots
invites out sometime next week
Cool, thanks!
Nah, I'm a vet decorator, I'll find a way to make it work. I hoarded the little animated sparkles in EQ2 must've had a few hundred...so I put two on each stair and made little patterns. ANyone who walked into my house with a subpar graphics card damned near bnricked their pc though 😛
np fam
They will probably get feedback from the testers as to how many characters they think there should be
I don't mind wipes. It's pretty standard for testing phases.
Yeah; it'd suck to login on launch and discover a bunch of people are progressed way ahead because they got beta access
I hope they don't have hard limits on the number of items in your house, though. Or at least the hard limits should be a couple of thousand items
I'm an altoholic .. but thats usually because of the different options of gameplay in some of these games. When I played Sims Online .. 1 character was fine as I was playing me .. my house was my storage .. it just grew in size rofl. But .. I can understand someone that might want to specialise in different 'skillsets' to be totally self sufficient. I did that with Star Wars Galaxies each character specialised in an area so depending on my mood I played the appropriate character.
I wonder if you'll be able to 'save' different layouts. For instance the summer version of your home and soforth. It'd require locking those decorations into storage, but seems do-able. Thoughts?
I hope there's a large internal storage like in animal crossing
whisper 14 SWG accounts at one time or another....
Saving layouts would be great-esp since they mention you can place rooms. You could even use it if you were a decorator for other people.
I hope I can pile thousands of pointless items on my floor like skyrim, such that there's an explosion of cabbages every time I open the front door
Maybe you would have a summer house in an area where you go in summer because the weather is better there and one in the winter in a location that would be beneficial to a winter lifestyle .. building a snowman etc
That would be sick. I'd love for that to be implemented
I just don't wanna put down 20 chests lol
I wonder if they'll eventually expand so you can have multiple properties?
chest, cabinet, wardrobe, fridge, under bed storage, mudroom chests
With multiple houses you could have one for each style you liked
Thought that said mushroom chests, and I was down
Perhaps more compelling still: Can you control the room layout?
I believe they said in FAQ that you'll be able to alter the room layouts
id have to check
closet that spills its stuff out when you open it
they did confirm room layout costumisation :3
i would love to see scaling/adjustable furniture
Or a wardrobe that so full that it doesn't close properly rofl
ah perfect, thats enough people that i no longer need to read
There's a table inside your house where you've set up a miniature copy of your home, complete with the same furniture
YES
lol
DOLLHOUSES!
i also want to add that that same answer included "the house in the trailer only scratches the surface"
It's next to the 7-foot-tall couch
also if there could be water furniture and i could have like lil fishies in my couch like a couchquarium
that would also b nice ty
is a couchquarium similar to a waterbed
yes
nice
how do you feed them?
I do want scaleable and full angle rotation stuff. It would open so much variety for decorating.
Just make it a complete, sealed ecosystem
OOOh.. I wonder if you build into basements?
ya can i post youtube links in here
Like have an entire house that's actually underground?
Can my basement delve too deep, and too greedily?
Nice, I'm optimizing home decor
theres a lot of floridians among the regulars, i bet theyd love a basement sim
lol
only if u know what u awake in the darkness of khazad dum
It's gonna be about 500 cats, if I had to guess
:)
The cat-rog of meow-goth
(nathan explosion voice) RELEASE... THE KITTENSSSS
OOO new floor plan idea: optimized with cat trees, tubes and dangly bits 😛
I'm going to make this an official feature request
Makes grimalkin twitchy. 😛
dev team: what if the real friends were the cats we made along the way
"making" cats?
Dev team: Remove entity limits for household pets
well i mean they have to make them!
Cat collection achievement. Each area has fifty types of cats: you must collect one of each to get this achievement. You earn the cosmetic buff: cat hair-applies to all clothes ever
you wouldn't download a cat.....
I want to discover how many cats it takes to initiate nuclear fusion within my GPU
5000 cats crammed into your 500 sqaure foot home
Exchanging items is more beneficial than keeping items around, for the community.
"I knew I shouldnt have let my friend edit my house.."
Well first you need enough fans so it doesn't burn out. I lost two CRTs to cats lounging on top of them.
omg all of them meowing at the exact same time
Or .. allow us to choose how to distribute our house item count .. x for player use, y for pet use .. all the crazy cat people will have it 20/80 rofl
rip headphones
That would be terrifying
I mean, you would have to dig a huge deep mine to find the cats, so it would take a lot of work to get to 500
Hehe opens door at night -looks into house -several dozen glowing eyes look back from the darkness
More like, you'd open the door and they would pour out like the cabbages
-strange eldritch chanting comes from the direction of the eyes-
Of course that means you also have to have a cheshire...who randomly goes invisible (except for the eyes or the grin)
absolutely
A whole alligator relaxing in my Palian living room, allowing people to set drinks on its back.
The first thing they noticed was the sound. Like a squealing cartwheel, a high-pitched whine that permeated the serene woods around town.
Only as you entered the city proper did it become louder. Too loud for a simple cart, the whine was now an ear-splitting shriek; a penetrating scream without end.
Let it never be said that a scouting contract is an easy one. Our gang pressed onwards, palms forced against our ears as though our heads were fit to explode. We traced the sound to a small cottage near the edge of town. What sorcery could have trapped such enormous noise in so small a home?
2022: y'all remember that time when palia-chat became the cat channel for 5 weeks
"This would make a good Story" ~ Shrew the Storyteller
lol
What is going on
astronaut: always was
Cats
Understood
Nice to see that you're already on it.
the scream descends and then sets off into an eerie warbling noise, we hear the faint sounds of hissing and then approaching thunder, punctuated by by unearthly wails, plaintive and in suffering. We have made the wrong choice. We know it. It is too late to turn back now...for it is the time of The FOODING
I can't wait to be able to log off after a long and stressful work week and log into the coziness that will be Palia. \o/
And the Pals you make inside the cozy world too!
cool, rainy day ingame, spend time cooking and decorating. go down to the tavern to play a few games of (level tier chess thing) and gossip about that human dude that gave the prettiest pebble to einar, and then blushed bright red and ran off
(I may or may not be facing a chorus of wails of unending torture now since it's twenty minutes to feeding time and they are, of course, starving to death)
the closer to dinner, the closer the cats get to me, and the more they stare at me
I really, really hope that eventually we'll get pets in palia
and animal husbandry, I want chickens
I want cute fuzzy pets, but also unconventional pets
The fluffy one stares, the two sisters, one demands and the other snuggles the fluffy one aggressively as he tries to ignore her. It's a production.
Ooh what about things like messenger birds? Or messenger critters?
gekkos the size of cats that spend their days in the chandelier
"its part of the roadmap" they described pets with sounded much more promising to me than the usual "could" or "we'll think about it in the future"
I want a raven. Snakes. A lil piggy (or a mega piggy tbh)
Gekkos the size of cats that glow and act like light sources 😛
RAVEN
absorb the heat and light during the day, emit it at night if they feel safe!
or falcon
Spider like creatures that can make lace for you to hang on the wall.
Owls who hoot the hour in game
keep in mind that whatever we want, they will be palia versions, like the chapaa are kind of like squirrels, but mostly not
or rope for climbing
no spiders!

I love spiders thank you much.
I'm only good with jumping spiders. They're cute af
YES!
I have several phobic friends
OH I wouldn't have a pet spider, but I know people who would.
With their lil hats
Ive had a few
true. it's the crawling that's creepy
I awoke to the sensation of something pulling at my ankles, which alerted me to a throbbing pain in damn near my entire body that had me struggling to breathe. The tugging intensified, and I felt my head whirling up and backwards, before a long and unwelcome fall onto my back.
"Gatekeeper save us, it seems he's still in there."
I opened my mouth to respond, but something was caught in my mouth. Breathless panic overwhelmed my bruises, and I wrenched upright to expel a fist-sized ball of... fur?
The shrieking noise had subsided, but my ears would continue ringing for a week. In its place was the much more gentle noise of... cats?
i watched this video of this person with a pet leech.. it was pretty neat
I saw the word throbbing and immed lost it.
definitely no spiders
🦆
Man, I remember how terrified I was in Grounded facing spiders. GAHHHHHHH! Its so scary!
how did the train emoji even get in there....
I love spiders and those things were just NOOOOPE!
freudian slip
Mind you they added a arachnophobia mode
Schools of tiny fish that swim in the air would be neat too
Dancing mini mushroom creatures who come out at night
Little glowly caps
Get full ghibli
I love the arachnophobia mode on satisfactory, myself
this game looks awesome 🤩
They replace all the spider-monsters with oversized 2d images of the developers' cats
but..if we have arachnophobia mode, how am I suppose to torture people that visit my house... I wanted to have millions of little pet spiders just to mess with my family.
Me, a coin-operated spider: Time to invest in a people disguise.
Don't be silly: arachnophobioa mode gives you a flamethrower. Once you light everything on fire, the fire turns into a sleeping orange tabby made of fire 😛
😴 G'night Palians
good night @dawn hill !
Many spiders! Especially jumping ones! (I like spiders)
If they are in the game at all, hopefully they will be harmless and friendly. That way people can avoid them if they want, and enjoy them if they want.
Given the graphics we've been shown I can't imagine they'll be that bad to look at as someone with arachanaphobia the more cartoony or fantastical they look the less it induces my phobia
Maybe the spiders are friendly and weave the silk for the para-gliders seen in the trailer.
Games don't trigger my phobias, luckily
I'm not scared of spider since i watched and read "So I'm a Spider, So What? "
like 100% gone
Good evening y'all. 🙂 Hope everyone had a great day!
I was going to wave at you, but you get a waffle instead.
I've seen people mentioning stuff like neighbourhoods... Where do you find that info? 🤔
They said neighbourhood will be the guilds of this game
good evenng, good night. don't stay up too long, hans!
did u know that spiders make great fish food
I AM a fan of waffles!
Was that in a stream or is there somewhere to read about it?
Guuuys... My boyfriend is filling out the form for prealpha 🥺
There's a pinned FAQ in this channel. Neighborhoods are basically Palia's guilds.
Urh I think it's in the unofficial faq
Check the pinned message, there should be a link to a document containing more info
It was on the private event for the press, they basically spread that info via that
Well shoot, I thought maybe we were getting this information by shaking Shrew like a magic 8-ball and interpreting the squeaks.
Oooh, thanks! I never remember to check pins
rofl... I'm blasting Ariana Grande a little TOO loud I guess, my neighbor just pounded on the wall 
just start playing some Ramstein and yell in german
Spiders also make tasty cat snacks, according to one of the furry girls in my house.
intimidation tactics
Tool has an excellent song for those who don't speak german: Die Eier van Satan. (It's a brownie recipe, but done in german to a chanting crowd and drumming. It's hilarious)
lately ive been hooked on the album "everybody one of a kind" by wild belle
the song 'have you both' especially
I'm going to have to make a palia playlist once I start playing. Or, since the music sounds nice and chill, a playlist for when I write about palia, because I think I might do a column or suchlike.
The song that hit me the most this year is MGTM - Little dark age it's a little older but i didn't knew about it before
Palia ambience where you can lay down in the flowers and watch the clouds pass by
YOO
That sounds perfect. What could be better than relaxing in Palia amongst the trees
Doing so with a pal.
I can see a lot of people who live in cold winter places really enjoying palia a lot once they're stuck indoors.
True!
It get pretty cold where I am so I'll enjoy the virtual outdoors.
I would enjoy some nice online game any place in the world 🙂 Escaping the harsh reality is a nice thing from time to time
I can already see one of the titles for a column entry: Palia: a cure for your SAD.
Honestly, Palia is a perfect recipe for a lot of people right now. It's relaxing, undemanding, beautiful and relatively free of conflict. With how things are, a lot of people could use that.
I'm so ready for Palia's soundtrack. I feel like too many people listen to their own music while playing games rather than enjoying the intended ambiance of the game!
I'm also hyped for the OST to release
There's a lot of very smart very subtle decisions that have been made. From a game theory view I'm really fascinated with what's come about so far.
i always prefer the game music, it really adds to the experience of the game
I hope you're all having a lovely day ❤️
Not to halt your anticipation, but the game has not yet revealed a lot so keep your hopes in check otherwise you may not enjoy the game even if it is really really really good 🙂
I wonder if there's a chance Nel will release a couple songs from the OST to us before the game drops... 👀
👀
oooh lets hope
I hope, but so long you could maybe check out the OST of Chicory, Lena did a great job on it.
Oh that comment was from an academic point of view. Not a personal opinion. Some of the things are very smart and very subtle. Maybe it's just serendipity but I'm hesitant to think so.
Yeah for now we found the composer's Youtube so we have SOME music 🙂
It's just not from Palia~
On a personal level, I know I have high expectations. But I bought into Landmark, played the heck out of it and consider my money well spent for the hours I enjoyed-even though it crashed and burned and the backend was a nightmare.
I gave it a listen. I really liked what I heard!
This is most definitely not my first, second or even tenth rodeo 😛
Hope my email alert won't go off in the middle of the night xD I'm sure my neighbors won't appriciate when the speakers blasts "I bless the rains down in AAAAAAAfricaaaa" at 3AM
Maybe i should change the script to delay it after 8AM xD
If I were your neighbor I'd tell you to turn it up!
I'm sure they don't even know the song 👀
They don't like to hear the drums echo at night? they like only whispers and some quiet conversations?
You're giving me ideas 👀 maybe after 11PM i'll play the Jumanji drums with a moderate volume
Africa is a pretty popular song. I'm sure they have heard it.
I would be astounded to hear otherwise.
You're not familiar with german music culture 😛
From my expirience a lot of people didn't knew 9 out of 10 songs that i would assume to be known
even stuff like never gonne give you up
Okay yeah that song proves your point for sure.
did anyone get an alpha invite email yet?
I don't want to be a buzz kill but please note that we can only talk about Palia related topics here. For other topics, you can use the #💬│off-topic-chat channel. Thank you 
Anyways my alpha invite alarm is now mute in the night and plays when i wake up 
No worries! 😉
Just gonne hope i get one
I think we are all in that boat. I think about it way too often.
helloski broskis
i like games and chill
Will you be making bouquets and flower vases for homes?
absolutely
honk
that is, if i can
hjonk
i love doing flower arrangements outside of games but i havent seen a game that has an actually decent decoration thing like being able to pick which flowers you put in and how you place them
I just wanna grow crops, maybe pet a cat
I don't trust myself to water it and keep it alive so they should have some plastic flowers too 
and quietly live my palian life
i want to be anti-social in a video game
I just want to harass gardeners
yeah I feel like this level of detail is usually missing. it is probably cumbersome to allow something that can possibly have a big number of combinations
not cumbersome so much as...I don't know a good word for it. You need to store each combination somehow.
so if you have 12 flower types that can go into a combination...
Nice TOPIARY - PFFT
and while that can be true, think of all the different ways you can arrange different furnitures in a lot of games - if they did a small version of that inside a vase and then locked the design in, and then the ability to plave that vase, should be good
if you allow a flower to be put into a different position, then you need a separate texture for each flower as well as its position
and to be animated
not neccesarily
they could just have like set spots that you can put flowers in (lets say like 12 spots) then you just like drag and drop the flowers you want into each designated spot
yeah, there are gonna be challenges with that but considering the tech they already have it shouldnt be too difficult?
who knows. I hope there will be a lot of customizable content though
I kind of hope that there will be some form of pve content like questing not necessarily dungeons and all of that. But something to do to learn about the story and what not.
You don't need a seperate texture at all. All you need for moving flowers is proper boning in them for flexibility.
A fellow scholar of Lore! Welcome!
You only need different textures for different flowers.
See, now I just want skeletal flowers and plants for halloween.
But having a decent amount of customization content will definitely help it stay afloat in terms of allowing people to do other stuff.
You could totally do that. Though it'd require probably more detail than normal ones.
And the "bone/skeleton" thing is accurate. Boning is the skeleton of the object. The joints are where it moves.
You just assign it, and it's not visible to the player
Going full-ham with customization would be a good idea, I think. It extends the lifespan of a feature when the same thing can be done in a variety of ways. Sort of like if fishing only had a pool of 10 fish versus a pool of 100 fish with new ones being added or rotated on occasion.
Yeah for a game like this I'd say that's a really important thing, changing dynamics and timings and experiences is important to keep things from getting mundane
A lot of customization for models can be pretty simple palette swaps. With basic tech now for rendering you can even do texture overlays on palette swaps and make standard models look very different.
I mean talking from a coding perspective it would take a little bit to get the framework in place but once it's there it would be super easy to play with pieces to make countless amounts of unique fish with different timings, requirements, etc. It just requires a lot of foresight and planning
The biggest thing is when you change the silhouettes of models...sometimes that requires more work, because the physics need to be reassigned (like the bounce of a larger belly or when/how clothes drape)-but some cleve shading use of textures can make the same silhouette look very different.
I mean they are using UE4 so I think some more of that graphical stuff can be handled pretty easy
Most time a game like palia will have a number of pieces that are used to build other things.
It's common for any animator to have a library of small items for a project like bottles, walls, flowers, trees, etc etc. Pieces you can throw together in combination to make new scenes, settings or even objects. And usually there's also a texture and art library that does the same thing.
I mean you could technically even have things like fish heads/fins/tails so you could mix and match pieces before it even gets textures or painted shading or details.
Which would let you have a lot of very different fish.
f low ers:)
Yeah flowers would be dead easy. Just variety of petals, colours, stems and centers.
WHERE?
i wish i knew
i hope there will be thunderstorms in the game
and summer storms too! like, the ones that just come outta nowhere..
(I may have spent some time to 3d animating and design for models as a hobby :P)
Dynamic weather will definitely add a lot to the world
I like learnin' stuff
Beautiful sunny day, no cloud in sight and then just BaBOom
Just a lot of moving parts are required imo compared to the static nature of a typical mmo for a social one to truly thrive
I believe they said there will be weather but to what degree they're not sure.
ye i love this!
Summer storms that hit while you're out on the water on your fishing raft and storm-related fish become activated in the RNG pool.
Also gabby 10/10 pfp lol Wonder Egg Priority is such a great series, really interested to see this new episode in July
My silly little detail I want: footprints. For some reason I love it when characters leave footprints behind them.
As a member of the Rp community in other MMO's having weather effects appear in game is amazing I wish games like WoW would do more than just have rain once in a blue moon.
just 5 more days!!
cant wait for the last episode to absolutely ruin me 😵
Yeah, when the focus is the quests and static systems dynamic things aren't required but the focus on the social piece makes it harder to ignore that stuff
Yeah I'm super excited, definitely concerned for what's gonna go down in it though. It won't be anything insane or messed up a la Madoka Magica but it'll mess with you in different ways for sure
dkonen I sure hope so! it would also be a good addition to hunting aspect if animals left trails in the environment to allow tracking
kind of similar to how koalefants work in Don't Starve
I agree with dkonen it also helps you feel like youre in the world as well.
something to know about weather effects, while they are cool can be rather taxing on systems. It could create a need to have a higher system requirement then their target area.
I won't be heartbroken if characters and entities don't leave them but it's one of those details that I am oddly attached to and get glee whenever I see it.
Well yeah but you would probably be able to change your graphic settings right.
I'd think the majority of the system strain would come from shaders and stuff for rendering the weather, all they'd need is an option for the weather quality or the ability to disable dynamic weather
It depends in the end-for weather systems-on how the graphics adjustments are coded in. SWTOR did a terrible thing by layering theirs, which cause all kinds of weird visual glitches and bloat...but it's the only game I know of that did things quite that way.
As much as it's important to build a game that even the hottest of toasters can run that doesn't mean you shouldn't make it graphically impressive
maybe, but wouldn't it be a bit weird in a social game if you are experiencing rain but someone with you isn't. It would be a bit weird of a roleplay experience that is for sure.
I can understand that but it also cuts off a huge piece of immersion and interest
Yeah thats very fair but that is also having to deal with how you yes and as well as how you have your system set up or how the weather itself is made.
I've seen cases where they do a little indicator by the minimap for weather, and for people with l,ower graphics, they may not see rain, but the skybox darkens and turns grey, while the indicator will show a "rain" icon.
Oh I understand, I'm just saying it's something to keep in mind. If there is weather the sys requirements might be a little higher then a toaster. You might have to play it on your microwave instead.
There's also the ability to simply change the skybox for people that can't handle weather
Yeah like having dark clouds over head and what not.
Hey now-my fridge has wifi... pretty sure it could run ...something. (I still don't know why it has wifi, but okay)
There's plenty of ways to convey weather changes on systems that can't properly show it, there's no need to kneecap what would be the majority of players to absolutely accommodate the low end so that they aren't left out
well the skybox will change regardless, but that's just the sky itself. The rain and snow and lightning are particle effects which can be demanding depending.
Accomodating people on lower end machines should be a thing, but there are plenty of ways to do it that are nearly as immersive.
Skybox as in the same mechanic they have in RS3? Kinda like world filters?
I mean there's also really simple things like graphical loops that don't have to be intensely rendered, simple overlays styled similarly to gifs
"It's karening today." "..y ..you mean raining, right?" "Oh, no karening. Look, it's demanding to see the manager." "Ah, so it is."
The skybox is literally just the sky. I call it a skybox because when you do a static scene the sky "texture" and area is called a skybox (in blender)
There's a lot of ways to have the weather shown and be something immersive to end users if performance is of issue
On another note I hope that there are different appearances for your characters clothing aside from just cloth items.
Oh you're talking about Blender ok. I was thinking of the world filters you can apply in-game within Runescape. make it look like it's sunset all the time or have it be dusk
There may be a different term for it in UE4, I don't know.
no no I'm talking about when you render in a scene on the animator's side.
I hopped into the wrong conversation mb
Server-side rendering?
is there not plans for this to be on a tablet? I imagine performance has to be a considerable concern if that is the goal. Tablet games crash so easily when they get taxed.
I would love to see something like unsusual skin tints you can make or buy
I mean Fortnite would be an excellent example of what you're talking about. There's weather and effects in that game and it runs on phones and stuff no problem
no rendering like: when you're making it. To depict a scene or a model, you "render" it in a 3d program.
Genshin Impact as well
There's quite a few examples of multiplatform mobile games that look great on PC and implement a lot of complex graphical effects and stuff
but how well do they run on those mobile platforms.
They run well enough that countless people play the game and blow stupid amounts of money on them
Latest iPads can run Fortnite at over 100fps max settings I'm pretty sure
You render the models-you create the models in the 3d program.
Then there's a lot of other work of polishing and refining to make it efficient and then you put it into the prog ram that is the game people will play.
Models are also knows as "renders"
I guess think of render like sketch. only 3d.
haha it's true. going mobile will definitely reach a bigger audience
Low End is no longer the Low End, if you have Low End it's because you haven't been able to upgrade in ages, and at that point it's very much getting close to edge cases
There's a LOT of potential for Palia to go mobile or be offered mobile. I mean you need a different UI, but it could be done.
Well depends on the engine
There's a much bigger problem translating it to VR, honestly.
Palia uses UE4 Jahnri, similar styling to Fortnite
I wish the mobile platform wasn't that wild west though, the revenue share and expectation of the user base make it very unappealing for me as a developer
A lot of factors go into mobility, genshin can only go mobile due to certain restrictions they made to the game. Frankly going mobile restricts the max potential of a game generally
I was only referring to the fact the mechanics and systems are very mobile friendly.
However mobility offers income