#💬│palia-discussions
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but i need the starred meal for the quest XD
star quality dish is rng
Maybe you can ask your friend for me? :>
i get starr dish from mix//half starred ingredients
you can still use whatever starred ingredients you have and regular from th erest
thanks for the tip
what quest? you dont need starred versions
ooooh that quest yeah its subrias questline
also the quest from tish with the investigator furniture... gave me 5k gold and i believe the materials were 4k xD
im just waiting for that questline to eventually be gone tbh
well see those quests were only meant to be temp cause were supposed to be "past" introductions but the fact they made her romanaceable when she wasnt supposed to be it just i dont know. maybe i forgot some details. I did that quest a LONG time ago XD
all that work just for em to be like thanks here’s a pack of tomato seeds
i can help cook
not needed rn, i will do these quests later thanks
Hello. 
I was wondering if there was some plan on the Palia road map to make it so you could give people plushies.
I've been playing with my girlfriend, trying to get those Sernuk plushies.
We've been hunting those Elder Sernuk together. I got three of them while hunting with her, and she got none.
She's also hunted them on her own at least 5x longer than our time together hunting.
Her hunting level is at 40 (started this when it was 15), and mine is 21.
She must have killed over a thousand of them by now, but nothing. She got the other two plushies, but this one eludes her.
It's really frustrating, especially when I have three of them and I can't give them to her - hence my question.
yeah in the end its just luck unfortunately, which u had a ton of 
no plans for furniture/decor trading for now but it is a very common feedback by players
Oh no... you know what I find annoying? You can only have one account attached to steam.
Welp, looks like I will just stick with their normal launcher instead. No point in adding my accounts on steam when this game has a reg launcher. Created a 2nd account so I could enjoy the friendship quests again, play a lil slower with that account.
Been thinking…. I am maxed out on renown. Before you ask, yes, I am maxed out and brought everything that you can with renown. Playing since Beta doors open. There should be another shop in the game that only accept renown or give you a price in coins but also it equivalent in renown. It can be a shop that sells nick nack items like books, curtains, towels and washcloths for bathrooms, kitchen towels, coffee table type of items. Basically items to decorate your home that you cannot get/make anywhere else. Could even add doors for individual rooms inside the house.. just a thought…
Many have been asking for things to send renown on, that is why I made a second account... fully maxed out on renown, so anything earned just goes into the void.
Welcome to the club buddy ive lost around 1000 renown to the void
Likely I have lost that amount as well, maybe more, didnt count as it was too disappointing
I stopped caring about renown a long time ago
if they will add something to spend it on, 1000 will probably be enough to get the majority of it, the rest can be obtained from new quests/achievements that will be added
Well, I really hope they do something.
I understand the probability of getting that drop is 0.1%, which means that on average it takes 1,000 attempts.
On average. It can easily be more. If my math is right, there's about a 14% chance you won't get it on your first 2,000 attempts.
Given the effort it takes to hunt one Elder Sernuk, that's pretty steep.
the plushies are also not something u are supposed to grind for, well u can but thats ur choice, they are designed to be something u will eventually get by playing the game
at ~6900 the chance to get one by then would be 95% but yeah a pity system for something like that was also requested by a few, same for the item trading, but they very likely have other priorities, like a new map etc.
maybe increasing the odds for elder sernuks could help in the meantime, instead of 0.1 maybe 0.5% but weelll
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What are Communities? What are they for? What are the benefits? Drawbacks?
ingame communities atm are only "chatrooms"
but they will receive some love eventually
hopefully soonish
oh
tbh the biggest problem with Palia's RNG is that it's pity-less RNG
you can kill 1,000 sernuks, get nothing, and still be no closer to actually obtaining one than when you started, because the chance is still 1 in 1000. There's no sense of progress and you feel like your time was completely wasted if you didnt get lucky, because it was wasted.
implementing a pity mechanic, such as "rates increase by X% after every 500 kills(resets on plushie drop)" or "one guaranteed plushie drop at 2000 kills" allows for a sense of progress, which mitigates the sense of wasted time, for example:
"well, I killed 1000 sernuks and didnt get a plushie, but now I'm halfway to 2000 where I know I'll earn one, so I'll keep going"
or "well, I killed 1000 sernuks and didnt get a plushie, but now my rates are double what they were when I started so if I keep up I know those boosts will get one to drop eventually"
instead of how it is now: "I killed 1000 sernuks and didn't get a plushie, I feel like my time was completely wasted, can I just get one please I'm tired of grinding with no end in sight, no light at the end of the tunnel to keep me going"
I don't feel like my time is wasted by killing 1000 sernuks bcs I know what I sign up for + get gold from the mats and hunting lvls
but I get what ur point is, its "wasted" in terms of time spent on getting the plush for sure(but not overall)
How do we know what they want as a daily gift? I didn't know we can do dailys. I've only been doing weeklys.
Weekly is the only one that changes
There isnt a set daily
Theres a set list of items each character has of liked and neutral items though
Oh? Because in the past I've tried to give them something and they wouldn't take it.
probably bcs they didn't like what u tried to give them, they won't except everything, npcs have a few items they like
Is this list pinned anywhere? Or can I just Google it?
wiki has them, just look for the individual npcs

if anyone gets flow seeds do you plant the trees?
the selfish plant them. the generous gift them
ok thanks 🙂
Heyo everyone lol
How’s everyone doing? Been afk a week and catching up on things atm
Frogbert isn’t even gone yet and I miss him 
He's A-Sliding around lmao
Kilima Drift
I see. Makes sense because if the chance is 1 in 1,000 then the next kill after 999 should be a plush if you haven't gotten one.
Otherwise, the drop rate is not exactly accurate.
it's 1:1000 per loot drop. it doesn't matter how many sernuks you take down. you basically role a dice when you go to pick up the loot drop, at that moment you roll to see what you get. it's why some people can go out and get one sernuk and then get a plush, turn around and after five more deer get another plush.
the plushies weren't made to be a grind fest, they were made to be a special surprise when you go hunting. the only one that i've actually grinded for was the order plush since i knew that it was going to be fixed at the next patch. but the others are now just if i happen to get it, it was my time to get it
Either way, not getting one after 1000 makes the ratio inaccurate.
True and something is not happening the way it's supposed to.
the raito is correct. it's not the number of deer. it's the loot bag. you are rolling a d1000 every time you pick up the bag. if you land on a 1 you get the plush. if you don't you don't. the next loot bag you go to get, you roll another d1000 and again you have to hit the 1 to get the plush
I am just doing the math regardless of the wording. The ratio should not fail if it is accurate.
its not a set accuracy. its chance. there's a small but significant difference
another way to say it is, every single regular/elder sernuk is a 0.1% chance every single time
Then it should be a percentage rather than a ratio
its not a ratio its a probability
speaking of the specifics, I'm very curious if it's 1/1000 per loot bag or 1/1000 per item in the bag. because the bags can have 1 item, or like 2 or 3. anyone know?
stares at math words
1/1000 per loot bag
probablility can be expressed as a ratio, percentage, fraction, or decimal
much appreciated 
Yes correct and if the biggest pool of those numbers is 1000 but after 2000 someone has not gotten any then the probability is not accurate.
it's not the deer it's the loot bag
probability means that the average person will get it in 1000 kills. some it may take 5000. some may take 5. the probability is still correct
do we rly have to discuss basic math
deer, apples, bags or blueberry seeds it should be a number that is accurately expressed
0.1% thats ur number
0.1% chance is the correct number
Percentage is far more accurate.

and those numbers are applied to the loot bag when it drops, each and every time
And if you've had 3000 loot bags with no reward, what then does the probability end up being?
same probability, you're just unlucky 
It's also worth noting that the reason the chance is so low is, in part, because there are so many of the T1 and T2 sernuk. The Proudhorn, otoh, is a 1/100 chance per bag, because they spawn a lot less commonly
My math professors would not approve of that lol
im a stats major...
Awesome! Good luck in your endeavors.
tbf this is pre determined odds via like... coding...math? (I'm not expert)
you could make your own stats for your personal experience but that doesnt change the pre determined odds
The odds change based on the person's philosophical luck at best it's 1:1 at worst who knows.
it's literally on avg w/ the playerbase and with the code. it's a 1/1000 chance, which means 0.1% chance of it dropping per deer. It's like rolling a dice each time one dies.
idk how else to explain this and idk how else anybody else can too. it's pretty clear imo but maybe im just used to RNG/probability mechanics from games that have drops like this?? lol
or lots of D&D dice rolling
at best its 1:1 at worst its infinitely bad chance. the odds are still the same
Yes. On average. That is the chance. But some people might fall on either side of the curve.
yes so i dont get why youre saying that's not the case? it literally is talking about how it is on average?
personal stats obviously differ, but that's not the point. on avg it's 1/1000 chance? it's a 0.1% chance each time you kill a deer, in the code. like? idk what else to say to that
A person with 0 after 3000 is not having the same rate of probability.
It's. In. The. Code.
It's a 0.1% chance each time you roll a dice/kill a deer.
yes, they are, it's just the dice isn't rolling in their favor
i think you're thinking of dependent events, where the outcome of one event influences the next. but these are totally independent. each time you kill a deer, there is a chance that it spawns. chance is same for each trial
the game's code doesn't care who you are or how many deer you've killed. you have the exact same 1/1000 chance every individual time you kill a deer
Alrighty. Before this goes nowhere fast. What's the bottom line here? What are we trying to say/prove?
probability does not equal results
You have to be trolling, right? Please tell me you're trolling
The code might do that but the person's results are not the same.
we're trying to explain how probabilities work so that they have an accurate idea of how the plushies work
I know that and I am talking about their results from that. Yes. Thanks.
you roll a 1000 sided dice, you must land on 8 to get a plushie 
But I don't get your point? No matter what it's a 0.1% chance? Some people might be "luckier" than others, and it just means they happened to get that dice roll. Some are also not as lucky as others. That doesn't matter nor change the fact that it's a 0.1% chance each individual time a dice gets rolled.
I know how the math works. I am very educated. No one needs to try and educate me on that. I am talking about a person's personal results.
Y’all pretty sure they trolling.
Ok, I'll be a bit more direct. What is your question exactly?
I am not trolling. I am being misunderstood there's a difference.
a persons individual results are not the same thing as a probability. if they were, no one would get one with 5 kills.
I had no question. I was agreeing with someone.
can we please clearly state right off the bat what we mean instead of things going downhill like they do here...
^
But everyone else took the opportunity to misunderstand that which is confusing.
So, all's good.
Yes. No one is getting upset or bent out of shape. At least I am not. I enjoy nerdy discussions.
well idk how this rng stuff works but all ill say is a pity system needs to be added so this can all just, blarg...

That's what I was agreeing with.
lol this was just another topic of spirited discussion the other day
Threw in a what-if situation around an idea thinking about it.
without pity systems in place, there is a small, but possible chance that someone will never get a plushie no matter how many sernuks they kill
they could roll that 1000 sided dice 10,000 times, or more, and still not roll the 'winning' number.
If Palia had a market system, someone could use, for example, the gold they earned from selling all the random furs and horns and whatnot from all their sernuk kills, and buy the plush from someone who was lucky enough to get multiple.
Palia does NOT have trading, however, and that means that the game needs to consider that in regards to drop rates- that's why a pity system is absolutely necessary in a game like this imo
if it makes you feel better abt sernuk rng, these are the drop rates i deal with on another mmo 
what does any of that say?
just item names
That one is as interesting as some of the gear set drops in ESO.
some dungeon stuff is even lower 
I feel like palias droprates are very good compared to that lmao
Yeah. They are pretty good.
its .0317% for a fashion wing from one of the end tier dungeons 
and death perma if you die there/restart if you die w/o revival buff pet
Yes!
That's exactly what I was aiming for in agreeing with a pity system and talking about results in rolling the dice.
tbf when you deal with a pool that looks to be that large your combined rates are pretty high for getting any of the S drops which in most mmos are tradable and can just be exchanged for the one you want with another player
lol theres like 50+ not s tier things
exchanged? you mean sell/buy for currency 😛 nothing is free with rates this low
You sound like Zeki here!
the rates are low and dungeon/missions are a grind, ive done that specific end tier dungeon so much i can fall asleep while running it and still survive the room half muscle memory until i manage to snap myself awake 
not reccomended*
You have really good luck!
its not luck just stupid skills 
im also rng cursed in that game XDD
how to make hunting on switch not pain though
any tips from switch players 🙈
I think you can adjust your aim sensitivity in the options?
When I look at classical probability, in charts like that, the precise math of a drop used, I really want to know the real world chance people experience. Chance can be used to describe the reality of the results that we experience from the events of probability. Empirical probability.
But things like luck and risk are also involved in taking a chance with classical probability. I am likely to not grind for the thing in demand. However, if I get it, I will be pleasantly surprised
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well put 🙂
if you want my experience outside of palia, ive run the same dungeon 8 hrs a day everyday for 6 irl months before i got a low tier "s" rank drop 
Anyone else notice a bunch of online game servers are down or struggling to stay online rn?
League, and Genshin are down, PlayStation network is down too. I wonder if Palia is being effected by it rn too
tft has been stable for me
there are formulas that can calculate the probability spread and things like that, it was a topic of discussion a couple days ago #💬│palia-discussions message
At least ESO took pity and gave us the stickerbook for some gear
At first I thought 8hrs in the same dungeon is a lot. Then I realized how many times I've done vet hard mode in sunspire with friends just to help them out. Friends can get me to help with a grind. Alone, the motivation of earth is not with me 🤣
Not seeing an announcement about it, but is Palia having trouble or is it on my side? Keep getting this "Unable to connect" message on log in.
Palia was stable for me today. Although I did forget to log out. There is a message that I was disconnected from being online too long. Oops.
Just had to keep trying... guess the servers are under strain. 5th try loaded up my plot.
It’s not just you we’re talking about it over here #💻│tech-help
Thanks I think I need to opt into that channel!
It may be an issue with Amazon Web Services, not just Palia? IDK if they use that for server stuff, but probably?
I'm still looking, because so far all I'm seeing is a spike on downdetector.
Then again, it looks like AWS isn't reporting issues, so IDK
Usually when I read stuff like upthread where multiple gaming services seem to be having issues, I start suspecting hosting/web services
internet providers probably messing around with bandwidth
I mean, I'm playing Guild Wars 2 rn, and I was just randomly kicked off for a second, so... eh. I was able to log back in immediately, though, so it could have just been a blip
Networking is fun, in the Dwarf Fortress definition of the term.
I had to switch to a wired connection for my Playstation. Too much interference on wi-fi.
https://downdetector.com/
Some core internet provider pooped the bed a little bit ago, everyone is having connection issues right now
Yeah, it probably is AWS
Gotta love how core internet services are heavily tied to a single provider
Could also be an ISP. Regardless, it's definitely not just Palia.
Hopefully whatever it is gets fixed soon-ish
Mine was fixed a little bit ago, you might want to go check
They normally have failover for things like this
It fixed for a few minutes then went right back to disconnecting me
I havent gotten disconnected yet and everything seems to be working but we shall see
Watching the numbers on my friendslist fluctuate madly too
1, then 2, then 3, then 0 then 3 then 1
Some people at AWS aren't having a good weekend lol
does anyone know if the prize pool from zeki’s machine in his shop is the same as the prize pool from the machine underground?
Should be! Pretty sure it's just another way to access it
okay awesome! wasn’t sure
At this point I'm just friend-adding anyone who waits at groves...
I don't want to be on a server with non-waiters ever again.
it ever rains in Palia? since i started playing i doubt i seen any storm
Not for now
is there any flow infuse hunting group around? how do you find the group?
as much as I'm looking forward to the new friendship quests and as much as I defend and understand the reknown cap, I am not looking forward to earning a ton more reknown that poofs into the ether.
those 3x3 farm plots are useless.... should be 4x4 so i can plant 4 blueberies at 1 plot not single one
@tribal jacinth i got only those 3 pale 😛
this blue one is awesome
there are some crazy people who tried it with tons of coins. The average was the same for both. So you can assume it's the same 🙂
@stone sigil @tribal jacinth I think you can recolor it...
it dont seem to give option to 
Not? I have to try
yeah it just grayed out 
then I misunderstood you. you changed the color but they changed again on their own?
just not option to it not show in tab
ah ok.. I'm logging in now to check it out
@midnight grove
thanks...how can I unlock them?
you use mixing tables, preparation tables, oven, stove
probably reth sells the blueprints
oh kk thanks again I guess I'll wait
You are right oO
noooooooo i think all twitch drops will be like that
I checked my drops and it says the blue one was 4 months ago ^^
awh
maybe will give opportunity again sometime, that drop also had a really cool palcat plush
I know 😭
awwww so cute
Yesss 😭
Hey. The boost on sushi says a major fishing rod health boost. Does that mean my fishing rod lasts longer before I need to repair it?
it really is
i think it means the fail bar at the bottom of the screen
Oh. I thought that was the rod recovery boost?
i always thought rod recovery boost was just the speed of the fail recover ^^
recovery is how fast it heals, health is max amount
Ohhh. So, like, it makes the fail bar bigger?
To give you more time to reel in if you mess up?
yeah sushi will do that
ye
Thanks! Is there a boost that makes it take longer before I have to repair? I love fishing in Pavel mines for hours, but I hate having to stop to repair before my inventory is full. lol
Oh, I know. I have loads of repair kits for the bahari repair anvil. I just hate having to stop and do it.
Fishing is my Oneness. 
then get palium rod
We could be friends! 🎣
Sure!
I have the highest grade rod already. c: @viscid magnet
Does anyone have the Cream of Mushroom Soup recipe and wanna cook? I need this soup for a quest.
me i can help :3
yay let's go
hold on , need to start my game up but add me!
oki
my sales are 1000g on the dot 
i added you btw, haven't got your friend request yet
Best place on the farm to try for the star raspberry beetle ?
Go to leaf hopper, check around their family home, through the ormuu pin, around auni's tree house, then the path from there to the quick travel sign
then in some form, server jump and do it again
in my experience it's really common for their to at least be 1 spawn hanging around
it's even better to use a buzzy jar while in leafhopper then server hop until buzzy jar picks something up within the area
I usually get 3 regular raspberry beetles every jump, just eventually it has to be starred 
it's all about re rolling the die 🎲 as fast as possible 
heyy does someone have a palia group (or community i forgot the name of it) i could join to farm tgh etc?
you can take a look around #1135682474324807681
I wish we could pick different plot variations for what we want to do.
Like we get 9 plots that each have 9 slots but you can do a 1x9 plot or a 4x2+1 with a slot missing at the end for slotting into differing configs, etc.
Ok... I did some science and Math Yesterday.... 4:15hrs and 34 Proudhorns hunted before a plushie dropped, 14hrs and 641 Elder hunted before a plushie dropped, after 3601 arrows total .... next up is to finish and see how many more to get a sernuk plush to drop... I know the drops are random for everyone but I was just curious and decided to do this fun little experiment
okay that makes me feel better im like 20 proudhorns in and not got one it took like 300 arrows to get the elder one and ive not got the normal one yet
also has anyone else had a magic creature spawn insead of a rare bug at a grove? Ive had starred fairy mantis and now space bambi when ive been the first person there
apparently it either spawns a magic animal or epic bug
I'm hoping they look at not counting flowers, trees and fencing as plot item numbers. Its easy to hit the max with the new flowers added in now lol
Yes, either a magic creature or a epic bug spawns with the grove. Both can spawn outside of its normal spawning area so I've found the azure chapaa in many northern Bahari groves, though now thinking of it, I don't think I've ever seen a Proudhorn in a southern, below the wall, grove
Yes, there's also a chance for a magic creature instead of an epic bug. 🙂
it could also take u up to ~700 proudhorns btw (95% chance that u've got it by then, but like chances are, it can take up to infinity
)
Right by auni’s treehouse
magic buddies XD
space bambi ran to his buddy while I was hutning him it looked so weird on the hunting horn thing
i once found 6 blue wolves out of a pine tree
and managed to kill 5 with other players, the 6th has not been found since...
its annoying that muujin hp reset everytime they climb into a tree
yeah this makes me not bother I use hunting horns and hit them once or spook them so i dont have to bother with them they are a waste of arrows to me
i like to hunt them, they re a challenge, unlike the chapaa which gets stunned if you hit with one arrow xd
i wish we get more stuff to kill in Palia
na they bring out primal rage in me nothing makes me madder
I think we will get more over time
i still hope since they first announced the open beta for palia to get a dungeon where you can find dragon eggs and have a dragon pet
I only really need the shiny muujins "fur" for achievement only and i feel like them turning invisible the second they are spooked is kinda annoying and they said they wouldnt add dungeon's
I use slow down arrows as it leaves a cloud around them to help with the invisability
i got the blue muujin fur, but now i kinda want it starred too 
Bet i will try that next time
slow arrows are underrated
the MVP in a flow infused hunting sesion are the ones coming with slow arrows, it makes the job so much easier
I love hunting but the muujin just arent it for me
what use do you have for these things?
ah well i dont have many things left to do but finishing my achievements. So i guess ill do some hunting and bug hunting till they drop next patch
Seems like to me they are plushie hunting
I mostly sell it use it in crafting or atm with the surnk stuff im trying to keep tabs on how long the plushies are taking me
Each stuffies chance is 1/1000
I got the elder one already
i am still a newb to palia, i did tried it out last year when it released but my pc wasn't strong enough to play it so i scratched it... did got like level 65 in one week or so... its quite addictive
yeah i have all 3 so i understand. i have 10000 flow infused arrows waiting for disco deer patch day.
im atleast 30 possibly 40 proudhorns into trying to get that one and ive not really bothered too much with the base one
Im trying to get it before patch but ive got a bad feeling about it
That one is the order sernuk from zekis gatcha thing. When its patched you still can get it from him.
yeah not a chance zeki hates me actively 😂
restock for round 3 XD
i feel like the rng from zekis is pretty much on everyones level LOL just keep trying you never know.
I will but for now the space bambi will fear me XD
I haven't played in months, what's the current meta for farming?
maybe bok choy seeds? lol
if i recall it's 100% profit
i still just spam appls and make 30 to 40k a day so im fine spamming apples
I do know bok choy seeds are more profitable seed wise then doing a full stack of starred bok choy pickled for 2grand
ah so my friend was right seeding is better and i pickle my left overs ❤️
So I'm looking at this and it's seeds for bok that is best am I getting this right?
yes, because 1 bok choy give 4 seeds
Ahh I've been eating mine think I'm now going start seeding them cuz I've been getting potatoes n apples r best I'm so confused by it
it can be heavily math and play style based
gesturing to math doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YV_LiHp48shNifWakdZtOI9j6_IqQI0A7dRdr28lHNY/edit#gid=1340449153
NEW-WIP-Harvest+QualityBoost
Produce,NEW,NEW,NEW
Produce Name,Amount of Farming Slots Used
(Per 1 Plant/Tree),Days Until First Harvest
1 ingame day = 1 real life hour,Days Until Reharvest,Number of Harvests per Plant,Total Growth Time in in-game days,Total Growth Time
in Minutes,Total Units Pro...
do i see the word math?? 

See now that confuses me even more
Bless you. I have no idea how this setting got changed.
does anyone know how many hits it takes to down the legendary muujin? I swear I hit them so many times and they just don't drop 😂
hps regen each time they get in a tree, that might be it
Their health regenerates? How am I supposed to ever catch them? (Not completely serious, I'm just far too slow.)
group hunting
honestly i've just come back to the game after 8 month, tried to hunt ONE mujin, it got into a tree, i cut it and genuinely EIGHT of the buggers pops out...
I gave up.
Never touching those
EIGHT?? They sure are well at hiding!
Now I know where they've been during that one update when no one saw them...
plus it was really comical cause it was the scrawnoest pine tree around
Hi all, new member here! So the sernuk plushies are no longer dropping from kills in the new patch?
No they are permanent. The only plush in question is the one you can get from zekis coin shop once patch hits. Each plushie is like 1/1000 so happy hunting!
anyone got some corn to spare for a recipe ?
How do you look and see how much is on your housing plot?
I just migrated my old account over to steam... is there no way to start a new character?
You can have the account deleted then recreate it I believe. Other than that signing up for a new account is te only way at the moment
You know I would love to be able with the chest to have the means to manage and sort manually and put into separate chests items myself and name the chests so I know what’s in them. Granted right how it’s done is fine but it’s kinda hard to find things sometimes when you have to sort through all your lists of items to find things. 🧐
you can’t, some ppl out fence posts to see but i think there’s some kinda bug with it now
Oh ok. I'm getting rid of all my trees so I can put more stuff down even though I wanna keep them. I'm just putting them in my other plot I guess
yea i really hope they have some kinda counter in the future
i'd at least like the flower count to be separate from total items
oh wow okay thank you 😅
there is now a guide! https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:In-Game_Chat_Glossary
Anyone know how to get the villager portraits? I have multiple people's pins but they never gave me a portrait. I have no quests available either... what am I missing lol
romance level 4
Romance them
oh whoops i got friendship mixed with romance, thought i got the pin and portrait at level 4.. i guess thats only for hodari
Ok, why does it take so long to get a level in hunting. I hunted for 2 hours and only got 1/2 level. Even fishing levels up much quicker. It makes me not want to do it at all.
hunting is rly fast to lvl
something like regular sernuks and regular chapaas give less exp of course but hunting elder sernuks is kinda fast lvling
also make sure to have your focus bar filled and if you need can commune with the pheonix shrine :D
I've been playing since august. My focus rarely is at 0. Ok I'll go hunt in Barari then 😦
ah xD mine is alot cuz i forget to grab meals lol
i snack on the go with mushrooms xD
I always keep 30 on me at all tiimes
Is the flower limit of 500 on each plot or across all plots?
per plot 
oh good, thank you
I was decorating on my plot alone for a while. Then I ran from my plot to the Underground.
Shortly after arriving at the Underground, I noticed that I had 5 stacks of the fishing buff, and I'm utterly perplexed as to how I got this.
If you are near somone fishing it will give it to you even if you are not fishing
Yes, but I was alone on my plot, and then ran to the underground.
Where along that path from plot to Zeki's store would I have crossed paths with anyone fishing?
LOL no clue but I had random trees respawn on my lot today and now they are gone. Witchcraft from Tamala maybe? 😉
Teleport to where?
I was decorating with the Makeshift set, so I went back home and started interacting with the Makeshift furniture seeing if there was something about it that gave you fishing buffs, but nothing happen.
Other theory is that someone was fishing on their plot, and the buff transferred to me while I was on my plot.
They jump around plots
oh weird. I never checked. Oh well just another Palia "feature" haha
Palia Wonk ™️
I'm getting quite the flow grove on my lot though. Lov e it!
I up to about 75 trees.
Think I might go for a 100 tree flow party
You must have gotten lucky with the random ones. I only have like 10 and I've been watering and planting them right away.
u get the fising buff when u are in the underground and someone is fishing behind the inn iirc
Thats wild
let us catch sketchy fish in the underground 
that's wild, I haven't gotten a single flow seed yet 😭
hi guys where can i find a tree flow party
Flow seed?
you can check here https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1143270926394335282 if theres any goin on, sometimes askin in your server chat is good, can always look for the groves at midnight too
I assume that's what they were referring to, spoilers for the 4th temple reward ||the gardener you get gives you tree seeds, and there's a chance that it's for a flow tree||
Ty, ||I have had “return to the gardener” on my quest list for ages and just get so distracted whenever I’m in Bahari I keep forgetting to XD Kinda lousy if only some people get flow seeds?? Idk that’s not something that should be randomized imo like plushie drops, but hey, not my call to make. I assume they’ll be made more readily available in the future. Although as a total theory crafting lore fiend, I find the idea of flow seeds… Potentially quite disturbing in the hc I’ve read here, haha||
the odds work like: ||each seed is a percent chance to get a flow seed (IDK the percent but I think I read 25% at one point?), and you get it once per day the same way the bird from the second temple is. so everyone should get flow seeds eventually, I've just been extremely unlucky||
Ok I ||don’t know what you mean by the bird from the second temple but I’m totally willing to be spoilered if you’ll indulge me since I completed that temple and the second bundle and have the kitsuu monument thing in my yard, is it something equivalent to that?||
yes, ||the equivalent of that- if you completed the air bundle before the bug was fixed, you'll need to reinteract with where you turn in the second bundles and you'll get it. though the kitsuu gives once/palia day and the other rewards give once/irl day||
Ahhh ok. ||I actually might not have completed the air bundle now that I think about it, thank you for imparting that knowledge.||
||kitsuu gift is actually once/RL hour||
yeah of course, happy to help!
yeah sorry, that's what I meant by ||once/palia day|| but I should've been more specific
||Worth noting the Kitsuu dropping stuff every Palia day is not intended, and will likely be fixed in future||
||I thought it was every time I left my plot and went to Bahari haha, the timing syncs up||
for the effort it requires, I wish they'd ||change the other ones to be once/irl hour|| instead of fixing it
Funny story but I accidentally trained myself to tell RL time based on when the gifts appear
agreed
No thoughts behind those eyes
Brain empty
he is a very handsome muujin
Thank you thank you, he’s a rare tiny hairless breed
I can just imagine Palians breeding Muujin to be pets and coming away with something like that, akin to a chihuahua, but 10× as psychotic
i honestly had thought that that was what riffrocs were when i was new lmao. though a lot of people say riffrocs are supposed to be horses
Yea I think they're more like horses, according to how Nai'o describes them
i think kenyatta owning one made me think chihuaha instead of horse LOL (even though a lot of rich girls do own horses)
I love the ormuus.
I wish we had more quests with them or could own one and watch it walk around on a home plot.
so i see the steam achievements have been implemented, but i have a question i suppose. wheat if we've completed them before the steam release? ie: finding all the hidden chests.
should be retroactive
hmm, ok well i guess well wait and see since none of them show any progress compared to in game.
they won't take effect until tuesday
oh ok must have missed that part. thank you
Is it me or did they delete the patch day date?
This? #📢│palia-news message
God im blind af.
I thought 'just around the corner' used to be the date. Totally read over the title now hahahahha sorry!!
Yep, it happens. xD
I got scared it was delayed
I can not be invited / send invites to anyone for parties in game. I read how select players were experiencing this but couldnt find anything about a resolution. Anyone know if its been fixed yet? Or if theres a workaround to get into parties?
Although this could happen due to other reasons, one of them is not having the correct time on your device.
Unfortunately not the issue, its PC and set to standard time
Other than that, I'm only seeing mentions of the bug where you can't join different regions. (still don't know if there's a fix for it)

K, thank you for checking. Just wasnt sure if I mightve missed somehting in my search
We'll have to ask Sen, our resident helper, once they're online. In the meantime you could try sending a ticket to Support and hopefully get some help that way.
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oh yeah they fixed region locking completely 
out of curiosity, was your chat letting you send messages or did it do the "connection lost" thing
I know if chat is borked, then those options are borked
but also, a lot of social stuff is also being really buggy right now anyways 
Does anyone knows how to get the achievements via Steam? I already completed a lot of them ingame, but do we get them also in Steam one day?
Has there been any word if any social fixes are coming this patch?
I’m on PC and have constant whisper and party and chat disconnects
steam achievements will be added in the patch tmrrw
#🌟│sixer-tracker it's confirmed they will be retroactive
Ah nice, thank you!
my boyfriend had this really cool idea yesterday; a gem polisher. basically you put in your non-starred gems and it “polishes” them for a couple hours. more than likely, the gem breaks, but there’s a chance you get a starred gem out of it.
Howdy everyone, i Gotta make some phoenic fire relleno and i have everything but pepper, anyone would have a minute to cook with me for that ?
im around
if you give me 5, i'm out to deliver my bundle, i'll be right there
IGN is bayorna

you can come in my plot if you wish
mmmh should be good now
remember back then he bif scare about people being able to come to your plot and steal your stuff ? i had left soon after that, so i guess i forgot to reopen it
thankfully stealing your stuff can't happen
a lot of fear mongering hoaxes out there though
one question what ate the so called „bundle quests“ and how do i get them??
You mean the bundles to complete in the Night Sky Temple?
i think so, how do i start them?
You go in the Night Sky Temple in this location
after completing each Temple, you’ll unlock a Vault, and each Vault has bundles to complete
alr thank you!!🩷🩷

*Me, the first time discovering that one secret underground room east of hideaway bluff: *
Wow, it sure is mysterious and hard to find and full of secrets !
Me, now having returned to the damn exact same spot for yet another super secret collectible for the 4th quest in a row
Were the human THAT lackin in hidey places ???
When did the Devs sneak in the UI change on relationships??? Now you can see if you gifted them today, if you've talked to them that (in-game) day, if their pin is equipped... SO much better than just the weekly wants. 10/10 change. Why wouldn't they have pointed this out in any patch notes??? It's a successful improvement!
current patch iirc
can't wait to get more QoL in the future, small changes sometimes have a huge impact 
I noticed after the latest patch, soooo
what happened to Palian manners in this game! people used to wait to chop grove trees
It's frustrating, but I try being patient. I would guess it's the influx of new players, but I'm fairly new and never knowingly did something rude
in my experience whoever calls out the grove, tries to manage it so all players can have the chance to get a quarter stack of flow wood
I don't know about that, I've been playing for a while now, and every time I'm the first one at a grove, I shoot a flare, hit each tree, announce it and then I go afk the time people show up and decide to chop. I usually come back to get the loot when everyone is gone
sometime I do wait but I never 'manage' a grove.
also when people chop early, or just don't wait at all for anyone, I just think that there will be another grove in an hour anyway.
I know it's rude but not much we can do about it
Good evening, tell me I missed 1 twitch drop, usually I never miss one but I couldn't touch my computer during the 2nd wave from April 9 to 15, you know if these rewards can be recovered otherwise or not at all ? I'm so sad I don't have them 😭
Currently there's no other way to get the rewards. They may make them available in the future.
The steam newbie player influx, happened when Switch version came out too
a lot of people aren't aware of the secret etiquette rules because no one's explained it to them yet 
for example, I've seen a lot of people think that trees stick around for 3 minutes like ore deposits do then get bullied for chopping flow trees so they never learned otherwise
seen them come to discord asking for info, then feel terrible but they didn't know any better 
oh I see thank you for your response, fingers crossed I love the wallpaper so much 🥺
We also have to remember some people just play the game and never read discord or participate in chat at all. They simply don't know. I just play like I play and let others play their way. If they chop early well.... they do.
i check the wiki pages for the character and it’ll show what they also like, and no after max no renown ,
Naj hasnt agreed to make me a hanglider. How do I get a Hanglider off of her?
Naj is being a brat
oh i guess i dont have that quest. how do i get that quest? she didnt offer it yet
do I have to improve my relationship with her to get her to give me the quest
just keep doing the main questline, you'll get it before too long
ya it said something about the Ruins said da wiki. idk where tho
oh ok thx I have battery one
afaik, you only get the "loved" gift via their weekly wants. otherwise, they just have regular liked gifts that you can give daily
only loved gifts are lvl 3 and 4 weekly want and a villagers star stone counts as a loved gift as well which can be gifted to them once a week
ohhh i forgot about starstones
i always forget about starstones
there are no non weekly likes, all items other than weekly wants are neutral
weekly want 1 and 2 gives a bit more than a regular gift yup
i keep trying to chop this tree. it has purple on it. when i chop it keeps regening its health. wtf? what gives?
to be exact a neutral gift gives 10 exp, weekly want 1 and 2 "likes" 20 exp, weekly want 3, 4 and starstone "loved" 40 exp
talking to a villagers gives 5 exp
that's a flow tree, you need multiple people (or it will take a long time to do solo, depending on the size + your axe level)
should be possible
does flow tree give good items
when do i get to make better food items? atm i can just cook Shrooms
reth should have a quest for u teaching u the basics of cooking
You have to level up your cooking in order to get better recipes. Patience, grasshopper.....
Thwy generally drop, like, 2–3 flow wood, which can be put in the sawmill to produce flow-indused wood. Some recipes require it, such as the exquisite tools
ill help you cook a bunch of random food if you like
sure i would love that
whats your ign?
i need to lvl to 2 wood crafting. is there something i should craft that will lvl me fast
Atticus Forger
wood crafting? you mean furniture making?if so just make random pieces of furniture lol
ya woodcrafting lols
i dont see U online
i'm guessing they're gonna give us the achievements automatically since most of us already have them, right?
nvm I read the sixer tracker hah
real question is... will they fix it? 
i sent a ticket and still haven't gotten my reward....it says solved tho
where is suggestions part in discord
Same happened to me they closed the ticket with no response
it's better if you post feedback in the website
theres no feedback on this?
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Is anyone else here able to play pretty often? (I'm unemployed, so I can pretty much play all day every day if I want to ((I do))) I want some loser in-game friends like me
whats ya ign? same circumstances here lol
uh huh
A clock clock? Interesting!
Omg! A courtyard! Tytytyty devs! I love you guys!
Several of us had a convo awhile back about raised walkways. I was trying to make a courtyard and make my home look more Japanese. The courtyard they showed on fb solves my dilemma perfectly
It’s upcoming new content
So I’m like over the moon atm
one day left to try get this plush before it joins the others in the zeki void XD
I'm sorry.. WHY IS GODBERT LEAVING?!
We did come to love him didn’t we?
Nah I worshipped that frog, this is outrageous
He’ll definitely be missed
He has other Palians in the world to bestow his majesty upon, and we must not disturb his journey of great importance in doing so. (He was always meant to be temporary :') ) But I hope he reappears in the future too!!
I'm building a godbert shrine and will worship him every night.. Godspeed to Godbert, may his eyes look down upon those lesser than him. Ribbet 
It was so fun watching his eyes following us
Frogbert must return to his beautiful wife...the Bahari Bay Green Cylinder.
I thought those were toxic green waste barrels
Cyl Chan is so lucky
That explains the mutations...
Maybe we will see him again one day
It's been on my mind for awhile now, that one of the earlier sort of "promises" from Palia was a strong statement against wanting players to feel FOMO - i.e. missing out on decor.
I do try to believe that one day some of the more "exclusive" decor we have now will be cycled in the future and there will be a balance at getting new stuff while making sure new players can still get the older stuff, but I wonder how that'll work. For example, we now know that Maji Markets will be reoccurring, but I don't blame people for feeling like they're missing out when those markets are like every few IRL months it seems 
I'm an optimistic person so I'd like to think we could see Giga Frogbert again, but yeah. Much thinks. 
Palia's 'promise' against FOMO was purely in regards to monetization, but I fully agree with you. I wish they'd avoid using so many FOMO tactics in other places too 😔
We need to stqrt a petition to keep Frogbert! It's a travesty I say!
not just frogbert but also all the twitch drop exclusives too, etc
I hate when I have all the items people request but can't gift them because all my stuff is star quality. I hope they make gifting more like cooking recipes in that you can opt to use star quality items
How many signatures do I gotta get to keep frogbert around 
7 zeki coins or keep saving for the gazebo unlock?
The gazebo is so pretty
keep saving for tmrrws patch
true.... but I want plushies so bad T-T
hoard cash until you reach 300k, then spend
is that the cap?
yup
hmmmmm I think i can do that challenge accepted
honestly it's not that hard to do
yeah i have 40K in apples but im trying to make them all into seeds first
at least it was, i don't know what's the meta for money this days
honestly idk I was just clearing out my inventory as i hit max
is that the new top stuff ?
I know it was a while back but i swear someone said cabbage the other day
if you do cooking/cake parties. You can always plop down the food on an empty plot & basically save that way & sell it later so you dont get capped on the money
omg why did i never think of that
Wait until you have so much money you don’t even know what to do with it cuz you have bought everything and then gamble it for zeki coins. Gazebo is 100% guaranteed satisfaction but the coins will not guarantee a plushie ya know what I mean
Me neither lmao i was grateful to have a friend suggest it to me too
Hey quick question, will there be a neighborhood / social hub system in the future or does it stay with the house like it is now (instanced)?
when did the game come out?
although i thought about cooking for money the other day and someone said all the recipes are only worth the ingredients you put in them
it’s still in open beta (since august last year) but it was in alpha before that for a year
so i requested ceramic bricks
and it says 1 hour but where does it show up when i get it from a player?
it’ll be in the same spot and you just claim it, if you want can also ask in server chat if someone can send you one if they have extra
so they see the request, sometimes ppl don’t check
The one hour is for how long the request will stay there.
Best you just cook with people & not by yourself since the investment of just using 1 ingredient gives you better monetary returns 🙂
I recommend joining muujin bahari cooking parties. I believe it’s one of the next best selling food items since they nerfed cakes. You could also just do a glow worm farm & throw in sweetleaves & mushrooms if you dont feel like grinding as much hehe
Hi, I wasn't sure what thread/section on which to ask this question, but I would like to gift a friend Palia coins, if that's a possibility? As a surprise gift - I'm not sure if palia offers redemption cards for coins, or if I can have them sent to their account etc. If anyone could help, I'd really appreciate it!
The only thing I could really think of it gifting them one of those my vanilla cards that they could use online. Right now there’s no way to gift coins to people
Thank you !
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY FLOWERS
we they fully grown before?
yes 
probably should put in a bug report then
No no pls tell me this is not true I’m at the flower cap and I will be DEVASTATED 
Tell me April fools rn 
Yes its true im so sad I cant even water them 
Omg whatttttttt
apparently its not happening to everyone
what supply do i need to make fabric
Cotton
can i buy it wiff gold
Did you try relogging?? Like there’s gotta be something to fix it 😭
who do i buy it from
No you need to grow it and use loom to create fabric. Or you can buy fabric from Tish for gold.
Honestly it’s worth it to buy the seeds from zeki and start your farm
thx id rather buy it rq for da hangglider
omg that worked

Literally my heart dropped lol
My flowers are probably the most hours I have in the game just from planting and rearranging them so much 🤣
i dont see da fabric on Tish at all. just furnature
oh its on her Cash Register. DUH haha
relaunch game
ya i just figured out after i wrote Its not on her
Yep, my mistake, sorry. Gods that you found what you needed.
Has anyone recently got the Order Sernuk plushie from the Proudhorn at all this weekend? I’m wondering if it’s just gone cause I have hunted soo many!
Is there a place in discord to let the devs know of typos?
typos would be reported through the bug report on their support page
Ah ty
My gf got it this weekend while we were hunting together. All I got was meat.
I did yesterday.
saaaaaaaame ive honestly given up at this point im out all day tomorrow so its looking like ill never have it T-T (zeki refuses to feed my plushie addiction)
I got nothing done all weekend because I was hunting it and didn’t get the plushie.
same ive done over 2K arrows and only got the normal and elder one
TBH that just makes me sound like a bad shot I promise im not that bad XD
I don’t even have the normal and elder ones! 🫠😭 It shouldn’t be this hard. I wished it was more of an achievement rewards instead of a drop.
Guys when the servers be up ?
theyre up atm
It took about 500-700 of each to get them Im at like 100-200 proudhorn atm .... I am such a bad shot by math standards omg XD
for the basic one i just went crazy for like 2 hours in kilima
After the update tomorrow you can still get disco bambi plushie?
youll get the real one tomorrow onwards but currently its the order one thats supposed to only be with zeki
Im sorry for the delay as I was in the hospital this morning.. but no other bugs in the game for me, just the parties
Oh jeeze hope everything's alright
Im golden, thank you. Just a bit of outpatient surgery. Now im home on bedrest playing palia 😄
good dluck with the healing ❤️ i hope it goes well and peacefully for you
thank you wonderful
Right now DD is dropping the wrong plushie and is dropping the Order Sernuk. After Patch, it will drop the correct plush.
The order plush is the only one changing, right?
i keep getting extreme frame drops recently, it can get as bad as 5 fps. it seems to happen randomly, and i don't notice any specific trigger. i could be chilling in my home plot doing some maintenance work and it suddenly drops.
what is the Onyx used for
Its the only one that needed fixed
Proudhorn will start to drop the correct proudhorn plushie like it's supposed to 
im so ready for tommrow! i have 10000 dispel arrows waiting

Anyone else have thier flow trees on their property disappear?
I'm not sure if they got chopped while I wasn't looking, or stolen. I was very sad. They got them before I could get the pinecone from them.
I ended up locking my property down because of it.
And that's why I keep my home locked to everyone. The idea of someone being able to suddenly come over and mess with my stuff scares me a lot
I don't think they can get the usual stuff, but the trees...I don't think they are protected from chopping.
I'm going to experiment today with a friend. I will take away her editor permissions and see if she can chop.
only people who have editor status should be able to chop the trees. did you happen to check the other plots that you own? been hearing that trees are disappearing to other plots
Hmm...I haven't checked all of them...I"m up to six. But I will, and hope....thanks!
Yes. I have bleed-through on my plots sometimes. Mostly the homestead ceiling lamp
Oh, I hate those lamps. I feel like I've removed a million of them..lol
it was just a thought, not sure if that was what's happening to you
I have a whole grove of those trees though, and only two immature one's disappeared. I'll go look now and let you know!
Yeah, I just remove every addition after build so it goes into inventory, then place the building
ones
Found them....wooot!!
It WAS bleed through...on my last plot....hurrah. Faith in human beings restored!!
I wonder where it is?
Ah, gotcha! 
first off, congrats on finding your missing trees. second of all it's the grove that can spawn by the outskirts entrance in flooded fortress. the grove spawns on that little cliff and the two trees next to it
they really really need a SORT button on bags and boxes
Thanks sylva! I'm off to play now...luck and light all!
and yes, that grove either needs to go because it's not really worth running and waiting for two trees, or extend it to that small set of trees over by the wall on the right hand side looking south
sorry, the first part of the message was for ellenodale, they had said a bit earlier that they couldn't find the flow trees on their plot and was worried someone cut them down. but there is a glitch where the trees can bleed to other plots, and after looking they were able to find them. the second part was just saying exactly which grove you were talking about
and 4 trees are better than two, there are other groves, like thorny that only spawns 5
is community basically a guild?
it doesn’t give you any bonuses in terms of gameplay, which means there are no quests or achievements to complete as a community. it’s more like a hub where you can find likeminded people and make friends or organize an event to do together.
last image of da frog
for example, there are language based communities, like for specific language speakers, 18+/21+ communities, and more
it is what it is
I know tomorrow isn’t really a content patch but I’m super excited still 🙂
so once you have free space in bags where does your Overflow goto?
Does it go into your invitory?
you have to drag them back into your inv manually once you free up space
it is in the red bar below your normal inv
it is what it is
i wonder if anyone really finds fishing in any game fun
I love fishing in games !!! It really depends on how the mechanic works though
Examples of fishing systems that are Fun for me:
Genshin, Palia, Minecraft, most games Ive played that have fishing imo.
But I wasnt a huge fan of Stardews fishing tbh, I think it got too stressful
i have twitch rewards. do i need to restart game to get the twitch rewards
where can i get them? from mail?
man, looks like will miss the glasses by about 23 minutes...only am at 12% 😛
Theyll appear in your news mailbox yes ^^
do i have to restart my game?
You might? ive never messed with twitch drops a lot, you can try it! It moght just take a little to process as well 👍
I might have to wait 24 hours too haha
I enjoy fishing in Palia and in WoW. We do not talk about Stardew.
Stardew made me soooo stressed with its fishing :(
Anyone else not sell their gems because they are a great way to store wealth in case you need to quickly liquidate?
Stardew had one of my least fishing minigames IN a game
this game's I wish they just removed the need for the parinthesis.
best fishing minigame was RDR2s
I mean, it felt like fishing, it was exciting, and had the push-pull element that makes fishing feel like a fight.
Whereas, MOST fishing mini-games are just a progress bar/health bar and it's real lame.
Like I wish they changed fishing to where we just pull down, match their side to side, or risk a snap...and if we don't pull down they run back
I keep one of each just incase I need them for a quest or recipe (since im still unlocking stuff) but I do sell duplicates !
instead we are just holding a button and then releasing with a side to side until it's over
but in general I imagine RDR2s fishing was hard to make given it's Rockstar
I installed a mod to skip the minigame because it got me so frustrated and upset :''D
ok, this is odd...i noticed been on a Palia streamer, one I watched for the other items, and the meters havent budged...been on since she started 3 hours and 33 mins ago
she might have turned drops off
no, they are on,
they are still advertised in chat.
now they're moving...but def wont make all three... I think know whagt happened...when was on it, it acted like i loaded the page when it was already up...think it stopped when wasnt looking.
Bye Bye Giant Frogbert
never noticed his eyes moved
how long does it take for picked flowers to respawn
I don't know how to feel about the mountainous stuffed frog watching my every move but i don't think i like it
I really think it is so cool they let us take pictures and send farewells to Frogbert instead of vanishing Frogbert without warning.
where do i get blueberry seeds
I think they're just designed to make you think they move.
Kinda like those creepy old-timey paintings
ANyone would have a minute to cook a petit five and oyster akwindu ? Don't have the recipe but need to stock it up, Caleri also wants it this week
You get them from Badruu's guild store!!
Though you can also get a few of them from ||Badruu's level 3 quest after you complete it c:||
I really wish they had a Sort button
An hour late, but I do! Anara Mossbrook is my player name
well, got the 3 drops, and that Order Plus from that rare deer, that i had just found out about
it spawned on such a small tree lol
The question of the day: will we be able to play on patch day???
Fingers crossed it won't break everything.
I'm so glad he's leaving, it scared the hell out of me. 😭😥
he needs to make room for the update, he too big 
agree with you on this.
logging out on top of the frog to see what happens. see y'all on the other side
You have to get gardening skill up high enough to buy them from badruu.
pets personal giant Frogbert
PUT IT BACK
how we feeling about babylove reth getting his lvl 5 quest ?
i'm sure hopping it's to help him out of the ormu dung he's in upp to the nostrils
Can't wait to login and see my mailbox full of "Hey can we talk ?" 😄
This XD
Also, going through the patch note, i am now angry atmyself that i rushed the temples and inflicted this to myself when i could have just waited for the maps XXXX((((((
also coordinate on maps is chief kiss
I am not huge on the temple of the gales so having that map makes it much more alluring for me to finish.

yeah, i hd not finished "proof of magic" and "donation" cause i had not noticed them, and was procrastinating hard, but now i guess it'll be less of a hassle
My renown is maxed, so unless the cap is increased and/or they have something else I can spend renown on, I don't want to start any of the level 5 quests.
did you cap out your focus percentage and bar ?
Yes, and all the writs and housing items.
eh, gotta bear with wasting ressources ig sometimes.
props to you fi you prefer waiting it out
excuse me senior mod may i ask you a question 
im hoping we get recipes to buy at the mayors office with renown
Sure!
are external emote perms supposed to be turned off in #1143270926394335282 ? 
not that it really bothers much was just curious if that was a mistake or for a specific reason
I can ask what the intention there was if you give me juuuuusf a second.
tyt! its honestly not a big deal lol i was just curious about it
More flowers.... but most of us already at the flower limit 
Obligatory patch bingo card:
i might have missed this but have they fixed Kilima Village flowers that were missing, didnt see anything in patch notes!?
What I can say is.. people unfortunately abused it! It’s gone for the time being due to people misbehaving 😅
ahhh
sad to hear. hopefully people behave in the future
also praying for you guys maintenance modding is the worst 😭
inb4 "why is my game not working >:("
Same, that is so much renown to lose. And it's gonna be so hard not doing them until I can get rid of some Renown
They added in game messages on the log@in screen which has greatly helped 😂
the game i mod for also did that and it changed my life, i think there are wear and tear marks on my keyboard where "check the patch notes" go that will never heal though

Copy and paste was my friend 
I've been thinking i should make a macro for "ctrl+v". Yeah

They have Zeki BS balls for Money sink why can't we have a renown version of that?
i got fed up and made a dyno command to spam xd
that would be interesting 
Not that I see. No pink flowers for us. 
I’m wondering how it wasn’t fixed yet they added more flowers in
and i wonder of the bay flowers will all be available lol
I doubt it. So long as the bluebells and forget-me-nots are there though, I can live.
im wondering the same... which is why i think it's safe to say some of the new flowers will be bugged too 🫣
game isn't even in full release and many of us are hitting our item limit on our home/favorite lots. To me, this is a problem. I'm guessing S6 thinks allowing us mulitple lots is the solution to this, but I don't think it is. I am not a big builder or decorator, but I like to have all my doodads and trophies on display in one place to enjoy in the place I am the most - my home/main lot with my garden and crafting machines. I hope they have some plan in mind to give us both higher lot item and storage limits
I'm sad about no mention of being able to put flowers into storage either
Oh no. I'm worried that they didn't fix the item count bug caused by trees since they didn't mention fixing it, but did mention that the bug of tree swapping to other plots didn't get fixed yet.
That bug is literally making the game unplayable for me. 
well but the tree counting on all plots was like reported last week?
was expected that it won't be fixed by today
no, no, I reported that my item count was dwindling a long time ago.
I just don't think it was widely know what the cause was until recently.
yeah but without knowing that the trees caused it probably, right?
I put more faith in them figuring it out before the player base does.
Yeah, over a month ago is when I reported that item level count was shrinking, and I know that others noticed and reported it happening even before me.
It was 18 days ago that I figured out it was the trees causing it, and reported it.
we will see if they managed to fix it later I guess
If they don't I'll just be taking a break from this game until they do.
It's really shortsighted at this point, the roofs helped but my god the just don't want alot of long time players to carry on.
Every time I think I want to get an outfit they keep giving me reasons to not want to spend money on this game
I find it funny how they finally released a set that I would finally want to buy right as the game is just completely unplayable for me.
I wish the hood was a hat instead of just one outfit. I like when I can mix and match
how do we get cyl the green plush?
Probably Lucky Balls
it came new in da patch
From the patch notes: 
I need to hide them all over my plot
Just tuck them into my gardenia and hydrangea bushes
I hope we can stack them. Just imagine a tower of cyl plushies each rotated slightly 
I'm looking forward to those plushies!!
I hope it’s late April fools and they fixed the flowers that were originally missing, the order plushy instead of the proudhorned one, and fixed the bug Theo was talking about. Since it wasn’t in the patch notes 
I just read bahari rummage pile and was like, okay bye, will be a pain to get for sure 
You're not excited about that .02% drop rate?
Just imagine all of the stone/wood/tomatoes you'll collect along the way.
already prepared for it 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DFk0VbEuCI&ab_channel=SleepyKatara (if clicking on a link scares you, then you can look up "Guaranteed Rummage Pile Recipes DAILY!" on YouTube and sleep peacefully very soon having all recipies and never worrying about the piles again)
I love the flotsam stuff. It pairs so well with the Makeshift set.
I made a whole house with makeshift/flotsam stuff
#🏡│decor message
I didn't even know bahari got rummage piles fml
how much is 2550 coins in usd
probably about 25-30$?
Beautiful house, Theo!
well thats a nope to the ninja outfit
actually, im going to get it and not buy anything for the year
I could be wrong. I'd say at the very least it's like 22$
I'm convinced we'll never get the Cozy Ladder from Kilima Rummage Pile. Or if so, they won't announce it.
guess we will find out if they fixed it when someone posts it, until then I will ignore the pile xD
also wondering if they added something to zekis machine again, thats also never mentioned in patchnotes
I'm pretty sure at least some of those were mentioned...
At least there are mentions of it on the Wiki...
ima use my 20 coins and find out if i get something 
Good luck!
I always use 50 coins after every patch to see if they add anything new without telling us
Don't know if I'll do it this time. Depends on whether I can place furniture on my plot or not.
Are trees not supposed to count towards plot limit? I thought they were
Also wondering if hallways still don’t count as rooms
But where can I put it all? I’ve got no room, too much gold, blah blah blah
when placed in another plot, they are counting to the main plot limit, that's the issue
Ohhhh. That’s annoying
and why did they add 'solved' to your request.... I am frustrated with this issue and am not looking forward to new items since I can't place them on my full main plot 😦 .. to submit a ticket, is this considered a 'bug'? I am always unsure where to exactly report things like this?
Not the community news making me Google the difference
do you think they fixed the issue with not being able to put flowers in your chest?
"Solved" doesn't always mean that the issue isn't occurring any longer.
In their system it is just when the ticket is closed out.
Sometimes all they can do is acknowledge the report and send it to dev to fix it.
It's not practical to leave cases open indefinitely.
that was a temp bandage for a different bug
around $25 USD if you purchase the 1700 coin pouch ($16.49) and the 850 coin pouch ($8.49). it'll also be equal to 2550 coins total (yay!)
**Prices are from the palia wiki
so its still not available?
its on purpose you can't put flowers in your chest, because they revert to seeds or disappear
so that's the info to look out for
I haven't read anything lately about it
but maybe we'll see when patch is up
tbh 25 dollars for vertual coins instead of the outfit is a stupid practice
id like to be buying my outfits instead of currency that can randomly disappear
oof. So even worse than I thought.
think its just the riotgames influence and common practice to have premium currency for live service games and they rolled with it
I also think it has something to do with Switch?
what would the switch do with prices? /genq
Honestly the way they do their micro store reminds me of Path of Exile. Which personally I'm not against.
it honestly just sucks cause locking it as their only way to make money is not working so far for them
At least there's no leftover coins from it.
... like some do lol (unless buying the small pouch until it's 'even'.)
Yeah because their prices are ridiculous. If they cut prices they would see more sales.
Buying separate pieces would also be nice 
i still wish there were SOME things for f2p instead of just the defasult clothes. they arent enough honestly and itd help out the store cause itd keep players on and people who buy stuff in the shop have people to still show those outfits too.
or at least a gifting option cause even WoW has that
One of my friends in NZ the fairy outfit? Over 100 bucks for her.
God gifting options!! That would be super awesome.
I also wish we could buy seperate pieces or they made items to be bought as seperate pieces.
I also hope we get a trailer option as a job later. And can end up making like 10 different outfits based off the furniture sets.
But have the outfits in pieces so you'd have to make the pants top and hat seperate.
(So many edits)
i have no idea why theyre being so so subborn on this. they can make their money still and maybe even more. im so so SO tired of feeling like if i dont spend money, then im stuck looking like every single other person unless i buy stuff by force
I do like that they gave us outfits for the Nintendo switch and twitch drops.
But even that I feel we could use some more of.
I just wish they weren't limited. Gives me FOMO.
Esp the one(s) where you had to link your nintendo switch to palia to get the drop(s). that one hurts
I almost missed the green cat glasses cause my twitch messed up and I was getting so upset. I was like... this isn't normal. You need to calm down. It's a cosmetic.
I don't actually know for sure. I was actually asking.
I've heard people say that Switch has strict limitations with in-game purchases. And I've heard people say that S6 doing a coin system was because of stuff like that.
Is any one aware of other Switch games that let you buy things directly with cash?
So let me talk about a point of mine I make every time this topic comes up.
I love collecting cosmetics. That's my thing, I love expressing myself through character customization. Housing decor? Not so much.
What does that mean for me in Palia? It means, there is nothing for me to work towards in the game that I actually consider worth my time.
Therefore, I don't really play. And if I'm not playing, I'm certainly not paying.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. Giving people like me earnable cosmetics would provide a reason to log on and play.
It doesnt even need to be a lot of cosmetics. Just give me one earnable outfit per skill. Let me rep the 'jobs' that I like, please >>
but everyone keeps saying "well its the ONLY way they make money! be greateful!!!"
but how can i be when i get nothing in return or anything new to wear? cosmeitcs are optional but i like being able to wear clothes that show my progress at the very least. they can coexist like they do in every other game imagineable. its not hard at all.
I’ll say I play pokemon unite and their cash shop@operated a lot like Palias. You buy Aoes gems or whatever and you don’t buy anything direct.
I would love to have some sort of F2P cosmetics. They don't have to be fancy but it's nice for those like me who are college broke lol
Omg guild clothing. I didn't even know I WANTED THAT BUT I DOOOOO
the absolute wish how I got my outfit on Palia through cratfting furniture rather than the cash-store. to show that i love crafting furniture. :[
I would like to state though I'm not against cosmetic micro shops. I think they can be done really well. POE showed that.
I just think S6 is missing the mark a wee bit.
i cant buy stuff period. im working on getting on disability right now and am jobless due to disabilities
The patch notes don't mention anything... but I wonder if they fixed the ability to get Cottontail and Pink/Mixed Hydrangea flower seeds?
I think it would be cool for them to give out little cosmetics for reaching certain relationship lvls with characters.
Like for the romancable characters it would be fun to get a cosmetic that fits their vibe
the cooking outfit id love to be a gift from ashura honestly. it feels like something he would gift but no we have to pay money to get it...
and idk if they did. s6 cant do coherent patch notes
the mistake S6 is making, is deciding that cosmetics, as an entire item category, is something that will never be earnable.. It should be on a per-item basis imo
Yeah, I don't think there is any games on Switch that just let you buy things direct.
That could be just because everyone is doing it because it's been proven to be a more effective way to part people of their money, or it could be imposed upon by Nintendo.
I don't know. I only point it out as a possible reason for why they do it this way.
But who's to say that S6 wouldn't still just do the coin thing even if there wasn't a requirement from Nintendo 🤷♂️
The only games I've ever played that has let me buy things directly for money were Blizzard games, and they have their own store and it's PC only so they can do whatever they want.
so when they say people with max friendship will be compensated is that because we wont be max anymore and will have to start the last quest again?
the wording is really weird. i wish s6 were just 100% clear instead of wording things weirdly in patch notes
I don't think you'll have to do the quest again but they had to revamp how much friendship points you gain. That's how I understood it, anyways
I hope so, but I doubt it. I also expect some of the new flowers to be bugged tbh
im wondering just how buggy the game will be when it goes back up. i REALLY hope nothing major broke but with s6 being s6...
theatrhythm on the switch you can buy songs/packages for money directly, i believe
they're doing their best y'all. it'll get ironed out eventually
ive been putting up with them doing their best ever since i started playing. at some point you either grow in skill or dont
Then there you go, games on Switch can have direct cash purchases. S6 just chooses not to.
I think, for what I understood, you need less point to get to level 4. For exemple, if initially you needed a 100 points, it's now 60. so you'll have 40 points extra that will go in the, now level 5. But maybe Im wrong.
So much wasted reknown.
oh i hope so
I hope we never actually need reknown for more than more housing cometics in the future.
I understand where you're coming from, but some people have had the issue where their renown has been capped for months and for a while. It gets upsetting/frustrating to see the renown get wasted and poof into the void :[
We keep hoping/asking for the cap to be removed or a way to spend said renown
tbh i feel like they should just get rid of the renown system entirely. it could be replaced by maybe a shrine coin system you get in a similar manner imo. it feels way more tied into the games world then whatever renown means
Thanks Palia General for FINALLY filling the "Discord Timeouts Begin" square. I can always count on you.
ive just reached this point where i cant spend it anymore and im so worried what im gonna do if i struggle to make more later
and also the cap is about 900,000 or so. and when that happens you can maybe spend it all for ONE premium shop item
Okay, but where are the patch notes?
prevents stuff going into the void AND encourages farming to cap
Oh, someone did ask that. Thanks for reminding me to tick it, lol
oh it was a joke XD
So, who's your favorite character and why is it Tau?
I'm more of a cat person.
Cuz he is a good boy.
Im a huge cat person but tau is best boi
It's my kitsuu.
If there was a cat it'd probably be a close context
Yo, that Kitsuu scares me.
Where is he getting all that fur and red meat from?
That thing is a cold blooded killer.
Fair, the kitsuus are pretty great as well. But you can interact with Tau and have whole discussions with him!
i hope we get plumehound not behind a paywall
ok guys, I read again the patch note and it look like, we won't get a head start on the level 5 friendship (as I initially though) but a "compensation" if you already max lvl 4
I’ve bought donations outfits just because nocturnal pet looks similar to my cat. 🥺
we all know theyll put it behind one.
also can we talk about how the brightness slider will most likly just mess ith the gamma and, misses the point entirely...?
I meant as an npc
WHAT THE HELL? what they did? why now i have to wait 60 sec before i can type again?
I just edit old messages XD
Welcome to patch day
don’t forget longer than planned
Can you interact with pets that you buy?
Well, since Hassian insists that Tau isn't a pet, I can't see us getting one
anyone else on sims while they wait? XD
oh and where are patch notes i seen that one
no theyre just cosmetics

So Tau is still the best
i want doggo too 😄
They're not late...yet.
i love Tau from swcond i met him
i never realized before how far up the "tm" is... so i just keep reading it as "tm ... soon" 💀
Tomorrow....Soon.
i
SOON TM - read as never in this millenium
"Soon This Millennium" 

How was patch delayed not on this bingo card?
it's the free square
middle square
oh, that's what "longer than planned" means.
That should have been the Free Square.
does it still count if it's not an exact quote?
I totally didn't catch longer than planned as patch delay either @modest merlin 
#📢│palia-status message
annnd the free square can be checked off
Patch delay. Is that on the bingo card?
What is wrong with kitsuu shrine and why does it need to be “fixed”?? So we don’t get any little kitsuu??
the "Where are Patch note" too I believe 😄
thats the center square, "maint extension" = "patch took longer than planned"
Yeah it counts as “Longer than planned.”
It used to come once every real life day.
Now it comes once every in-game day.
It's never been stated if this was a bug or intentional, and so we're all just waiting with baited breath to see if it ever get reverted or "fixed"
If they have to fix the patch tomorrow, that’s the Patch the Patch square
how come every time I have a free couple of hours, it's always in extended maintenace 😭
@modest merlin Ahhh, ok, I was a little worried for a minute
called it 
soit's a given really XD
Had there ever been one w/o delays though? I feel like they should give themselves more wiggle room w time atp
i think last one? was early
Not according to my memory lol
The last maintenance patch that was just fixing servers (no new content) wrapped up early I believe
but wasn't there another patch right after that one bc something else broke?
They always delay it just long enough for me to finish my dinner. It normally works out quite well xD
#📢│palia-status message was a little earlier yea
Maybe they should put 8 hour for time, then when it's only 5 hours people are excited. lol
That was maintenance not a hot fix or patch
Underpromise and overdeliver!
my bad i can’t read 
But I agree.
Anyone know the kind of flowers that gonna be found in bahari? Or have they not released that much yet
That was released in patch notes on Palia.com*
Ty!
There are 10 new flowers listed on the patch notes. Roughly 17 Bahari Bugs, so we'll see what drops what.
there were some in the past that ended on time and earlier but yeah they should just give themselves more wiggle room, ppl will be more happy when a patch is finished 30 mins earlier than 1hr later
Oooo
I just hope I can actually place the new flowers 
which one is gonna be dropped by the rainbow tipped butterfly, ooooh 👀
Hehehe, bigs 
(I kid I kid, just thought it was funny)
Idk how long ago that was, cause I’ve yet to experience that and I’ve been playing since dec 23 lmao but def agree.
lol I didn’t even notice that my brain autocorrected for me I guess😅
Are flowers dropped by Rare/epic lvl bugs?? so far I've gotten most of mine from the common-uncommon bugs
big bugs.
as its clear they dont care about players suffering from the item limit bug, I'll remove half my plot to keep working on it, lets see if my will to play survives that
Hopefully none. There's enough bugs in Bahari to not give it a flower. Esp since Gossomer Veil Moth didnt get one for Kilima
You’ve seen frogbert mountain, now we will see bug mountain Dun Dunn Dunnnnnnnn 
the blue hydrangea drops from the duskwing butterfly, wich is kinda hard to get
it's an uncommon lvl bug though.
way harder to find than the rainbow tipped
On the three outfits showed in patch note, which one from left to right is the Harness Your Power?
I hope not the ridiculous one at left, but the one at right.
Btw frankly I wonder where the designers of those outfits get their ideas. Most are simply horrid or childish, or both. IMHO of course.
I suggest a honey lure! I got like 9 duskwings the first time and each one gave me flowers At the time I didn’t even know duskwings existed
bcs there are only 10 new flowers and we also have 11 uncommon/common bahari bugs its very likely that they will also come from uncommon/common bugs
judging on the price it will 100% be the left one, also fits more with the names
the right one looks like gothic tailoring
L->R is
"Harness Your Power", "Shadowstalker", and "Corseted Capelet"
Does this mean they increased the flower limit? Cuz I didn’t see anything about that. I’m at the limit already😭
Bangs her head on desk......
I don't even know what a capelet means. Am not english native.
Depending on color options, Harness Your Power might actually work for my character
it's a small cape. you can see it pinned on the character
So they added 10 new flowers, nothing about the missing 3 flowers and nothing about increasing the flower cap now that we have 10 new flowers and a bug that counts every tree on every plot so you are beyond capped and anything you remove means nothing because you still get the "Housing Plot is Full" message?
A capelet is just meant to cover your shoulders. A full cape can cover shoulders and arms. A cloak covers your whole top torso, your butt, and often has a hood.
Not sure but I may still have 1275 coins available as I did not buy any outfits after my "make your moves".
I will see when I logon. But will not spend any extra US$.
S6: "Here are more flowers for you!"
Me: "But I can't place them in my plot, or even in my inventory."
S6: "Look how pretty they are!"
yep they seem to be reluctant to show to much skin 😹 PG13?
do we know if mounts will ever be added?
The shorts from the Spa outfit have a cameltoe.
i doubt it, unless they release a huge new map
i feel like its big enough that goes a bit faster than the walk
but we have very cheap teleports
What is it about the overuse of capes on so many of the premium outfits? Aesthetically I dislike them, but also when my character is running it they swing around in a way that activates feeling of motion sickness in me. Are they really necessary or just another way to over design the clothes to justify the prices?
glances at the fairy-type outfits
Do you mean horses ?
over designing is an issue here. all i wanted was a simple little witch outfit
They made the witchy hats SO huge, you can't see your character
i mean it doesnt have to be horses but yea somting we can ride that is faster than our slow run
nevermind trying to decorate your house wearing those
I didn't even think of that. bug hunting must be a pain too
Guess you bump into lights and chandeliers !!! Fireeeeeee !!!
I think something fun would be posting concept art of some outfits and have the community vote, that might help with variation on different style outfits
(also a way/option to turn off the special effects please! as someone who can get overstimulated. i had to stop playing for a while when fairy outfits released and everyone was wearing them)
I see what they've done with some of the art of furniture, and what you actually craft to not trust concept art enough to accurately vote on it.
It’s getting to the point I’d pay for a “basics” set of clothes: simple separates in the full range of colors used in the $$$ clothes so we do some mix and matching. It’s very hit or miss with the current range of free clothes
Thats fair. I’d hope with outfits they’d go less stylized in nature to vote on something like that tho. Maybe not the best solution but it’s a thought 🤷🏻♀️
I wish the new ninja set was a top/bottom/hat, instead of 1 piece with a mask. It'd be fun to mix and match. I just dont see the point in buying a 1pc thats going to look like everyone else.
Would be fun to have a contest for Palia fans to submit outfit designs! Maybe even plushies or furniture too😊 and then we all vote & the winners become ingame items
That would be so cute, it would be a great way for the community to work together :)
ffxiv does this! but they also award like game time and some other goodies, so i think if palia did that they’d have to compensate a little, maybe some currency for store and some other thing
I would looooove more simple like cottage style womens clothes
a lot of the sets are also one piece with shorts instead of pants and that bugs me so much i just want pants w this cute top 
Agree with wanting simpler clothes. I don't want to have decorations all over my clothes! (Okay, some decorations would be fine, but somehow Palia's clothes aren't much my style...)
mhm like theres a lot of very decorational modern clothes which dont fit the vibe of the game
which is great if thats ur style but its not mine at all, I wanna look like i belong in Killima
Yes!! Webkinz and animal jam both did this when I was a kid. Palia gives me the same comfort as those games 🥰 now that I actually grew up into an artistic background I actually have a few ideas of my own
In AJ you’d get a custom plaque, our winners could get a wreath or something that aligns more with the Palia story
I love this top. It fits the vibe of Kilima, and pairs well with pants. I'm not a fan of how most of the pants are "high-waters" or capris.
i wish we got it from leveling cooking instead of buying it for money. it fits cooking and itd be a goal for people to work towards to actually use the skill
I feel like thatd be a cool thing to implement when they release. Skill-based character accessories. Def a better show-off than the trophies.
Give us a cool outfit matching the skill once you get to 100 or something.
Hot take: I’m GLAD Mount frogbert is gone!! That thing was staring me down as I decimated the local sernuk population!!
I didn't much care for him being there either. It was ruining the picturesque landscape.
A outfit set for each skill that you can unlock in level 20 40 60 80 100, that would be interesting
me, who liked at least three from the short look i took at them, maybe four 
I'd even just settle for a cool hat.
Like, shoe in 20, or an accessory in 40 like that, the full cloth in 100 something like that
i never got the near obsession with frogbert. i hate the way his eyes followed you and he was so giant he blocked everything he was near

