💬│palia-discussions

[tribal jacinth]

its making me feel ill and i cant fix it

[toxic marsh]

it's probably because we had that quest accidently in last patch

[glossy plinth]

With palia lauching on switch can i create a new character and start over?

[outer atlas]

right?????!!! im so happy its back hahahah

[lime mirage]

Well Apocalypse 0174 and now 0175, where I did not connect once between the two updates, now gives me this, and the usual dreaded "Unable to Connect after a loop in loadingf screen.
Nothing has changed. I cannot play.... 🙁

[gritty socket]

On one hand, I do want to do the quest when it's out, but I also did have a lot of fishing to do for bundles, so I guess I can do that while I wait for a hotfix

[leaden meteor]

Today i saw a Sternuk Moonwalking.....

[umbral marsh]

aight I restarted the download and now it's working 🥺 yay

[open kelp]

Can someone tell me where I can report translation-typos? Thanks

[slim kestrel]

Any word on server sync being back for EU/NA players?

[modest merlin]

I got mail at 6am from both sisters. I opened the mail, and I recieved no quest to follow.

Talking to both sisters does nothing.

Anyone know what's up with this?

[abstract lark]

nah be thankful it's broken, if you sync to another region you won't be able to go back to your plot on your home region

[slim kestrel]

I play with my best friend who is in England. So, yeah, it’s important. Never had issues before this week.

[abstract lark]

then you can just vpn to EU or he can vpn to NA

[umbral marsh]

okay the... running looks so funky now 😭 it was alright before now it looks funky

[tardy obsidian]

those are officially my new favorite decor. You can't argue this because it's true

[gritty socket]

I mean... fallen leaves are pretty nice, yeah. they'll be useful in fall, too

[surreal spoke]

I can't equip any of my tools. Is anyone having the same issue? The game is updated to the newest patch.

[fervent wing]

You can even put them inside 😄

[tardy obsidian]

YAS
you can put them on your doorstep even

[fluid marten]

OMG where are these from? I'm just updating now and I need these!

[honest scarab]

I 100% believe S6 is trolling us with this new running animation. Looks like a bunch of toddlers running around in a kiddie video game

[toxic peak]

Why did we get a new run? What was wrong with the one we had? This is terrible.. I can't believe that my biggest complete about Palia, is about running, but its really bad and slow

[tardy obsidian]

the popup store behind Zeki's

[narrow oyster]

Now i'm curious what the new running animation looks like

[outer atlas]

i must try and resist

[umbral marsh]

Its like the shoulders are being squished together and the running looks stiff 😭

[fluid marten]

Off to spend all the gold I was saving for a new plot. I dont need a gazebo

[fervent wing]

The new run looks hilarious, in a bad way

[toxic peak]

@honest scarab Thank you... who complained about the old run?

[gritty socket]

I mean, didn't we have a bug last patch where the running animation played at double speed sometimes?

[tardy obsidian]

Noooo you can put them in a gazebo too 😅

[brisk spruce]

I feel you. Happy Hiker is the first outfit to have a color scheme similar to something that my character wore in an old MMO lol

[pliant turtle]

snowballs??????

[vivid lichen]

How's the game ? Bugs fixed ? 😄

[modest merlin]

Is anyone actually getting the quest?

[fluid marten]

Ok so...I buy the decorations, fill my pockets with them , spend all my gold then save up again to buy the gazebo to put them in! PLAN!

[outer atlas]

this is a great thing they added! so now i can see if the outfit can be split up

[toxic peak]

I need snowballs to hunt down the people that didnt like our run.. we look.. its just bad

[shrewd owl]

I got mail that looked like it had something in it but gave me nothing, thats it

[gritty socket]

There are so many good outfits this patch. Glacial Grace feels like a more feminine/fitted take on Snowseer, and I wonder how well it would mix with it

[fathom radish]

Seems those who do have it and start it get stuck, in a place i wont say where as to not spoil, but once you enter you cant get out rip

so PSA don't || go to Eshe anniversary party!!||

[outer atlas]

$75.75 AUD😭 😭

[toxic peak]

You need to have finished some other quest

[shrewd owl]

Also don't put the snow in your house, it fuses with the ground

[modest merlin]

Same. I got this mail. It looked like there may have been something in the letter, but nothing was recieved. Now there's no quest in my log, and there's no one to talk to about any of this.

Tried Zeki, the sisters, and Jina

[vivid lichen]

That means double in my country currency 😄 Which is also like 1/10 of a montly salary

[gritty socket]

Is that for the whole bundle?

[honest scarab]

someone in server chat said something about the old run being too "bouncy" - this new run is way more bouncy...janky...to me

[fathom radish]

The new run literally looks like you are bouncing from side to side it is so bad

[gritty socket]

I love how the frog on the mushroom cap has jiggle physics/looks like it's repositioning to stay on

[clear dirge]

i thought something was werid when i was running

[vivid lichen]

Are we running with our shoulders now

[gritty socket]

Oh wow, and mushrooms fall out of the bag as you run

[outer atlas]

yeah usd is $50 which is 75 here

@gritty socket yeah for the whole bundle

[ocean stone]

Cuuute

Idk if 75 cute tho lol oh wait how much is the first one?

[honest scarab]

it's like we're out of breath and lumbering along

[gritty socket]

IDK, the old animation looked like more of a jog, while this one looks like more of a flat out sprint. I'll get used to it

[outer atlas]

hopefully they fix the new bundle quest bug😭 but i guess have to wait after the weekend

[brisk spruce]

I'm surprised they didn't fix Snowseer and Bookworm for the update before Christmas money

[keen plover]

is the running animation for ur character a little different? it looks kinda different to me hmmm

[gritty socket]

Yeah, like I said, at least I still have the old bundles to do. Time to fish forever

[glacial drift]

OH man, they added what peices come in a set in the store, this is great.

[brisk spruce]

that was definitely there before this patch I saw it yesterday while looking at outfits. I wonder which one they added it in

[toxic peak]

So a few complained and we get this.... Can we start a riot? Is this why most shoes dont have laces?

[gritty socket]

Yeah, I remember that was a highly requested feature, too

[glacial drift]

I wonder if it came in 174 and we didn't notice since there was no new clothes with that patch

[toxic peak]

late last night I got the Mushroom fung guy plush from Zekis

[brisk spruce]

that's what I'm thinking, I didn't look at the store for multiple patches before 174 but I did look during 174 despite no new clothes and it was there.

[coral coral]

Lucky duck congrats

[narrow oyster]

Hmm... i dont HATE the new running animation but i don't think it looks better....

[umbral marsh]

Is there a way to unequip Worms?? Some fish need to be caught without them

[glacial drift]

THe head doesn't really move in the new animations, I think that is what catches peopel off so much on it

[pine sable]

right click and select the empty hook icon

[gritty socket]

Hmm, the tool radial menu's a bit finicky now. I remember in prior patches you could hold down R, click on a tool while still holding R, and it would close the menu and stop registering the keypress till you let go. Now it immediately reopens the radial menu. Going to have to fight my muscle memory for a bit

[toxic peak]

@coral coral I would trade it and my 2nd Butterball to have my cute bouncy beep bopping run

[outer atlas]

winter store

[warm python]

Just got in, can someone tl;dr me how the new patch is going

[gritty socket]

Yeah, still no snowballs, and that lowercase 'present' is going to bug me.

[scarlet hazel]

missed opportunity for the leaf piles to be in the halloween/fall store tbh

[toxic peak]

😠 we look like the people under the stairs running

[gritty socket]

Probably going to need a hotfix, but it's going better than the last patch did by a country mile

[umbral marsh]

Ohhh! thanks:D!

[warm python]

/scrolls through. soooo who was it who told me I should keep mining for money?

[vocal cargo]

Looks like ok for some and bad for others. The bundle quest doesn't seem to want to start for some at least. People are torn about the jiggling while running. Lots of crashing.

[strange patrol]

"You will be able to discover decorations for your tree (as well as your home) all around Kilima Village and Bahari Bay through Treasure Chests, Fishing, and more." - has anyone found anything like this? Except for the 7 Chests that came with the letter from Zeki?

[outer atlas]

some people can and cannot do the new quest line and if you do the new quest line you can bug youself

[gritty socket]

I did, but we'll need to see how it all shakes out and exactly how rare they were made

[desert geyser]

Unless you talked to Caleri/Eloisa two patches ago ppl are having a hard time getting the new temple quest running. New walk cycle animation is... a choice. No snowballs but there is a Christmas shop.

[coral coral]

I talked to both of them last patch and still no temple quest

[warm python]

It was already nerfed once, I ain't doing it anymore now that it's doubly nerfed for some reason. everyone was like "oh don't worry, they're only touching the really expensive ones, you can still make loads of money!" now they nerfed the lower ones and the drop rate. like. okay I guess lol

[scarlet hazel]

now i wanna log in to see what this new running and walk animation is

[unique tapir]

i got the quest starter with caleri and eloisa yesterday but after speaking to them both no actual quest started😳

[scarlet hazel]

fr. theres no point in mining just for the gems now. its so pointless. if you get them, might as well just save them until you get a decent stack and then sell them. or just throw them away when you get em

[pine sable]

It's not worth the added stress for me anymore either. Back to pathological fishing when the cursor isnt slow.

[vocal cargo]

Sell them immediately in case they nerf them again.

[magic trench]

Checking back after a long break to see how the game is now that it's launching on switch- how are you guys feeling since I last played in September?

[warm python]

It, uh, it's been...something

[vocal cargo]

Cake parties, though!

[scarlet hazel]

yep. its.... defo just, something rn

[fathom radish]

Incase anyone here doesn't see you can escape the party by tping home, Esha can no longer hold the whole town hostage

[magic trench]

Sick

[warm python]

[outer atlas]

dont place your snow inside because you cant pick it up.. outside is fine

[glacial drift]

oh, accomplishments font are way bigger

[desert geyser]

I know my reply sounded salty but all the winter shop stuff is great! The fall leaves look neat maybe they just need more time for the patch. Game still has connection issues tho.

[gritty socket]

What if you remove any floor tile you put down? Might be a pickup priority issue?

[warm python]

Well I guess I know why they lowered the prices for inventory now lol

[deep cosmos]

"The Temple of the Gales is now available to explore." well .... we can't climb the creepers etc, so...

[tender copper]

...why do i run so weird now? >_>

[coral coral]

When people ask me what the best money maker is imma say furniture crafting 🫡😂

[outer atlas]

i put one in the gazebo and couldnt pick it back up

snow🥲

[fresh anvil]

So. Switch IS coming. I'm stunned.

[warm python]

Trust me, we all are lmao

[toxic marsh]

climbing is buggy in the new temple

[proper shard]

or impossible >_>

[scarlet hazel]

they keep saying they fixed climbing but i think theyre just fixing one thing and more bugs keep showing up. they should redo climbing entirely if it keeps becoming buggy like this whenever they end up fixing it

[warm python]

https://images.ctfassets.net/qyr5bjm559gz/39cDhUwC8dNphZS08Bdcxw/707e8c1ce91102a937115ec15cf81ec4/175_2.png Did they finally add in hanging items on the fireplace after all?

[scarlet hazel]

wait, the sweater outfit is clipping through the shoulders in that pic when they sit down

[shrewd owl]

That worked

[unique tapir]

the finals finally got full release but its really buggy rn, so switch to palia after the patch and thats buggy too🥲 pls i can’t do this

[proper shard]

Did you try changing the FOV in the finals ? That smoothed it out for me

[coral coral]

They pretty much just flattened most climbable surfaces

[tardy obsidian]

putting snow in your house is generally considered a bad idea. It wrecks your floor and puts water everywhere.

[hot temple]

Stop with the nerfs please 😭

[unique tapir]

it helped me a bit but i was still lagging pretty bad, couldn’t heal my team mates etc it was a pain, could be an issue on my end i dunno

[fervent wing]

If you think running looks bad, try it while holding a tool 🤣

[warm python]

but yeah did they finally put in the fireplace thing like in the pic I linked from the patch notes?

[shrewd owl]

The real question is going to be how many rich Palia tycons will buy enough snow to cover their entire plot in snow?

[coral coral]

No

[warm python]

.......then why did they use that picture again lol 💀

[proven citrus]

Anyone know if the candle quest got fixed?

[pine sable]

Yeah, time to sleep off the disappointment. Have fun everyone!

[worn snow]

so did this magically fix the game and make it super ready for switch release? ^__^

[warm python]

the only thing I personally know is that the quest prematurely completing after you talk to 8 people but not the optional 24 was a feature, not a bug, according to the devs. Not sure about the other bugs related to it though

[coral coral]

In what way? You mean the bugged exclusives recipes we shouldn't have been getting then yes

[honest scarab]

it's cute they think they improved climbing...

[proven citrus]

The issue where it could end if you talk to 8 villagers

[coral coral]

Ah not a bug, a feature unfortunately so no fix

[gritty socket]

I mean, it was supposed to end after 8 villagers once you went home and talked to your Shepp; it it was just ending abruptly then that would be a bug. Really, they just needed to signpost it would end the quest better

[coral coral]

Yeah I saw the quest update and was like yep never going home until I'm done haha

[proven citrus]

I heard it would end for some people after they talked to 8 even if they didn't return home. I was putting it off until they fixed it

[modest merlin]

sometimes how people say they remembering it happen and how it happened are not the same.

[coral coral]

I honestly think those people just didn't realize it would end the quest but that's me. I think you're safe to do the quest. (From extensive experience in the quest-help channel)

[lime lake]

Bird plush in the Underground? What is this? It's so cute.

[gritty socket]

I think that's supposed to be a Silverwing?

[shrewd owl]

Yeah I saw that optional 24 and was like this could go real bad when I hit 8/8

[modest merlin]

This isn't the first time they made a quest in the game like this that would let you end it early if you wanted, so I knew to avoid talking to my shepp when I went home after getting only 8 people done.

[coral coral]

My inventory was overflowing. Didn't care. I had mail. Didn't care. I wasn't sure if I'd need a candle per villager, I made 24 before leaving the house just in case. 0 trust haha

[shrewd owl]

Thats good to know I was worried that if I got booted back to my plot for some reason it would mess up the quest

[modest merlin]

But I can understand how people first experiencing that might not understand. They just show up at home because the icon says there's someone at home. They talk to the person there, and suddenly they can no longer progress with the option part of the quest that they wanted to complete. It's really bad design, imo.

[humble briar]

FWIW mine ended as soon as I talked to #8, not when I went home to talk to my shepp. Shepp still did come afterwards, but the quest was already over.

[keen plover]

ummm, sorry to ask here but i receive the letters from Elouisa and Caleri for the new temple and.....nothing, i went to talk to them and nothing happen, no quest, no new dialog.....wat is going on, is this another bug like the previous fire temple bug again?

[sinful ether]

I have the same issue..

[shrewd owl]

That is understandable, my experince with MMO told me that if something says optional you do nothing else till the optional steps are finished.

[modest merlin]

Yes, that's why we're all here talking instead of taking part in the new content.

[coral coral]

Literally tho 🫡

[gritty socket]

Yeah. I'm desperately hoping we have fewer bugs in future updates now that the team (hopefully) doesn't have to crunch to prep for Switch launch.

[modest merlin]

question: if trees in this game never visably lose their leafs, where are leafs on the ground coming from?

[shrewd owl]

I am mostly just waiting for some one to flex a solid snow plot

[quiet wasp]

I always wait a couple hours or so before actually going into the game I love Palia but patch\update days are always a hot mess lol

[cold sequoia]

My achievment progress got wiped again

[keen plover]

im floored, actually speechless, how can the same bug happen last time, happened again 🤪

[west marlin]

Common palia L

[modest merlin]

I'm all here for the covering the entire plot with snow.

It an't going to be me that does it, but I'm eagerly awaiting the screenshots from the one person who does.

[gritty socket]

There were some falling leaves floating around in the last few patches, I thought? I'd love to see more cosmetic changes with the seasons in future, for sure

[slow tapir]

Did anyone who had the bug of not receiving the winter lights mail and quest, received it after the update?

[shrewd owl]

https://tenor.com/view/cheshire-cat-alice-wonderland-smile-gif-12791280

[warm python]

That makes no sense, though? If it was supposed to end at 8 people, why would they have showed an optional goal to talk to 24? I never went home

[modest merlin]

I was hoping for dead trees. Trees without leaves.

[quiet wasp]

Skeleton trees

[gritty socket]

Yeah, my point is that if it was just ending without going home or talking to your Shepp, that was a bug.

[warm python]

And regardless, not having a clear "this will end the quest" to other people was kind of butt

[shrewd owl]

Well yeah it assumes a certian degree of familiarity with MMOs and how optional quest steps work

[gritty socket]

I mean, yeah, the team even agreed there needs to be better signposting in future, which is good

[shrewd owl]

The better option would have been to have the stop 8/8 be optional and the full version be all 24

[warm python]

like in what way? I play FFXIV like a second job and am familiar with other MMOs so I've experienced plenty quest end markers re: optional stuff and this was...definitely not one lol

[gritty socket]

I think something in the quest tracker or journal along the lines of "Return home to end the festivities" would have been a better way to phrase it

[shrewd owl]

I have played World Of Warcraft for over 12 years also like its my second job and I have seen them pull this before.

[warm python]

WoW i'm not too familiar with unfortunately, I only played that a bit in college so my memory is def fuzzy

[modest merlin]

fun fact: the quest log often has more details about the quest than the actual quest tracker on the screen.

[gritty socket]

Well, yeah, but it was supposed to. The intent is that the player would go home to end the quest themselves, which (outside of bugs) worked. The issue is, it wasn't signposted the best. I say this as someone who ended it earlier than I wanted to as well.

[shrewd owl]

I agree it's kinda BS though

[worn snow]

which, honestly, is a bad plan bc palia attracts a different audience than most mmos, being a cozy game

[warm python]

It wasn't just not signposted the best, it wasn't signposted at all. I'm glad they know it's an issue now, though.

[undone hazel]

My candle quest did end after talking to the 8th person and I didn't go home and didn't talk to my Shepp either. It autocompleted at 8 and took away the option to talk to all 24.

[warm python]

and can someone please tell me why they keep putting up that picture with decorated fireplaces when they know we can't do it lmfao

[worn snow]

i wish they had just done these two patches all at once and then have a couple days of maintenance before their break, now whatever bugs there are are gonna be in the game for a month

[gritty socket]

They will probably do hotfixes for a bit; they have to enable Switch on the 14th after all. Pretty sure we're just not getting any new content till next year

[scarlet hazel]

the new run animation is a little weird

[modest merlin]

That's my thinking, too. They said they are going on break for a while. So those who didn't get the quest got to wait until next year to play?

[vocal cargo]

The update notes are the best place for spoilers, though

[wild imp]

shaky shoulders

[scarlet hazel]

its like a WoW run animation, but way worse and none of the charm...

[modest merlin]

Until someone proves it with a video, I'm refusing to believe the running has changed.

[shrewd owl]

as someone who has played a lot of gnomes I get this 100%

[worn snow]

the way they talked ab the break kind of implied to me that they're actually taking a break tho nd not doing that stuff, to me. which is understandable! good for them having the holidays off, but i just wish they had scheduled it a bit differently what with .174 being such a disaster

[vocal cargo]

If it hadn't been for 0.175 being pushed up, they were ok with people locked out of the Eshe quest waiting for a month for a fix.

[keen plover]

i dont want to make this sound like im ranting, it just feels like im staying up till 4am waiting for server maintenance to be done so i can try the new quest is a waste of time, kinda like ur expecting to open an Xmas present and the box is empty, just like "last Xmas". Thats the feeling.....emptiness, i guess the only way to solve this emotional void is to go to sleep for the next few weeks expecting another empty unboxing, or not expecting anything, play baldur's gate 3 and not look back lmao

[scarlet hazel]

thats what it reminds me of tho! lol its like they tried to copy the gnome running but missed what makes the gnome run, THE gnome run

[shrewd owl]

Break is kinda vague they could be taking the weekend off or the holiday off.

[gritty socket]

I'm pretty sure that people were getting locked out of the Subira quest, not Eshe

[warm python]

tbh just play BG3. as many bugs as it has, you can at least do the quests I'd give Palia some time to get sorted out before trying to come back to it

[true fiber]

eeww i dont like this new run animation, i really liked the bouncy one :(

[patent stone]

I mean… you know what every single update has been like. Staying up until 4am waiting on a game that is now notoriously buggy when updated is kind of a you problem, lol (oh wait unless u meant that as an example, in which case yeah just walk away for a while lol the game’s probably not gonna be particularly stable until next year)

[slim kestrel]

Can we still not server sync between EU and NA?

[gritty socket]

I'm not sure if it's just me, but I'm having a devil of a time landing fishing hotspots in Bahari, at least in the caves. But at least I can actually fish at all in Bahari, so I'll take what I can get

[shrewd owl]

There is a way to talk to Subira if you got locked out of her quest. if you climb in her balcony window she spawns there at ingame midnight and 4 am.

[warm python]

That. that sounds like a bleeppost. that's amazing LOL

[worn snow]

they said they were off until 2023 in the patch notes.

[gritty socket]

Gotta say, while bugs in MMOs are annoying as heck, I always love reading about when people find ways around them. I'm just imagining our characters just knocking on the window like "Subira! Subira!"

[keen plover]

next year sounds good, or ill just play other games instead really lmao

[scarlet hazel]

"subria! dont leave me out here! subira!" /silly

[brisk spruce]

how do you get to her balcony window?

[worn snow]

so are we ready for switch release or not yall just curious what u think

[gritty socket]

"It's cold and the chapaa are angry!"

[coarse abyss]

Naaaaah

[umbral marsh]

How come I can't place the Princess Ladybug?? is it a bug/glitch? I can place other bugs or fish but not that one

[warm python]

I can't see how dropping the switch version right before going on christmas vacay is a good idea when the PC version is currently in this condition 💀 that was my big worry and, yeah

[patent stone]

I think it would be painfully funny if it somehow turns out that the reason the pc version is so buggy is bc they’ve tuned it to be perfectly stable on switch. I know this is not how game dev works, but I want to sow chaos and discord

[shrewd owl]

so from the decoration in front of zeki jump to the awning above his front door, glide to the single cloth awning, jump from zekis roof to Tish's roof, climb high on Tish's roof, then glide to the upper level of Zekis roof, jump to Jel's roof then glide into the balcony window.

[warm python]

If the switch version isn't stable and the quests don't work right etcetc, they're gonna lose their biggest opportunity to bring in a new audience so. ig we'll see what happens on the 14th

[gritty socket]

They're definitely going to have to push a hotfix. I have to imagine they would have liked to have delayed the launch, but...

[scarlet hazel]

ok the new running animation is literally just the gnome running one from WoW.... lol the bobbing and the way the arms move give it away clear as day

[worn snow]

i just feel like if they have to push a hotfix during their supposed break that doesn't look good for them like there's a reason they're taking a Long break too

[warm python]

I'll have to check it out soon

[worn snow]

im checking it out now (if i can get in)

[brisk spruce]

instructions 10/10, made it first try lol

[warm python]

oh man these arepas I heated up are more filling than I thought aaa

[gritty socket]

I did... not expect to land a void ray as quickly as I did

[fossil umbra]

so many people in the underground trying to talk to zeki... yet no quest comes

[pastel shard]

AHHH FINALLY

[celest maple]

My inventory is full, but i cant add more than 8 boxes so im stuck , what should i do

[gritty socket]

Oh, were you locked out of the quest before?

[scarlet hazel]

if your storage is full to youll have to end up selling or trashing some items. dont know any other way to fix that tbh

[hexed flax]

Or upgrade your storage

[celest maple]

Oh 🥲
But some are important im scared to sell it

[gritty socket]

You can also upgrade your storage using recipes at Tish's. They require you to use a storage chest as part of the recipe, but you can safely remove one from your plot without junking any items, you just can't add any more until you deal with the overflow

[scarlet hazel]

if you made extra sotrage boxes then its safer to trash those cause the storage is 8 chest max

[coral coral]

I, too, rejoiced.

[celest maple]

Alright ill try this one, although it requires like 24k 🥲

[shrewd owl]

I even checked his register to see if it was there

[celest maple]

I had to made more to add my stuff but ill try to trash them unfortunately

[worn snow]

honestly i feel bad for them that their snowballs dont work it looks like they were really excited ab it

[gritty socket]

At least we're getting some for free

[shrewd owl]

You can also move the extra chest to another plot

[warm python]

well at least they're giving us a few freebie snowballs it seems now. I wonder what they'll be like

[worn snow]

i know, im just sad for them that they dont work as intended

[fossil umbra]

feelsbad... ye i checked it too nothin...

[gritty socket]

At least the status update makes me hopeful we'll get one more hotfix before break

[pastel shard]

Yes, I made the mistake of picking the wait option with Eshe when I've been so excited to meet Subira 😭

[outer atlas]

hmmm has anyone found pal in iron node spots? i cleared so man and did loops but nothing.. maybe i gotta change servers lol

[pastel shard]

Either put stuff in crafters (like smelters, sawmills, glass makers) or sell a bunch

[thick sundial]

So guys… I’m guessing the patch was not a Christmas miracle?

[shrewd owl]

hard to say if not working or very rare

[gritty socket]

Honestly, they don't need Switch launch to be perfect; just as bug free as they can get

[brisk spruce]

I just found one right outside of hideaway cave

[fossil umbra]

i did few its kinda fun to see random palium show up everywhere 😄

[modest merlin]

I just want to point out that this message about not being able to progress with the quest 2 patches ago just recently got fixed for some people.

They had to wait like 2 weeks for a fix.

[outer atlas]

alright time to ditch that server then lol

[unique tapir]

with subiras quest where you need too make the recipes? for some reason it won’t let me make the “oysters akwinduu” i have all the stations and ingredients but the cook button is greyed out and has been for days now😳

[shrewd owl]

need 2 ovens

[thick sundial]

Tbh seems like every single quest is inaccessible when it is added.

[spark pawn]

I found one in a half hour and broke about 50 nodes and got zero gems am I just unlucky or was the drop rate super nerfed? :/

[pastel shard]

Can you still click it? A lot of buttons are greyed out but you can still click them to perform the action

[unique tapir]

i have 2 ovens, and all the ingredients. so i’m unsure why its greyed out for me

[gritty socket]

Meanwhile, I got two gems in one small circut of Pavel. It's going to be a bit before we can see just how reduced the droprate was

[shrewd owl]

Just to be certian you have 2 of all kitchen stations?

[modest merlin]

Share a screenshot

[vocal cargo]

And they only got it in 2 weeks because they pushed 0.175 up

[azure pumice]

I really don't want to be toxic, but.. can the DEV update the game without causing new issue for once... I just want to love the game but everytime when they introduce something new, that new thing is busted

[pastel shard]

I mean... don't wanna be that person to repeat it, but I'm gonna be that person: it happens with open beta

[unique tapir]

i’ve now tried on my second oven and now its saying i’m missing salt😳 but on my other oven it says i have all ingredients🤔🤔 must just be a bug i think

[modest merlin]

Will the game be in "beta" still once it's released on switch?

[azure pumice]

I don't want to be that that person but I had seen open beta with much higher quality made by 1-2 person...

[shrewd owl]

it does take 5 salt to make

[outer atlas]

when they showed the trailer for the switch it didnt say beta👀 but maybe they just didnt want to show that at the games awards

[vocal cargo]

But did they have snowballs?

[gritty socket]

I still kind of figure we'd get some sort of announcement if we're actually leaving open beta.

[coral coral]

Sometimes crafting and cooking recipes are visually incorrect. Might be that bug.

[azure pumice]

Pretty sure Minecraft did that without issue years ago

[modest merlin]

Has anyone ever seen Nintendo to release a game on their store that was still in beta?

I'm sincerely asking. I don't own any Nintendo products. I curious what the precedent is with them.

[unique tapir]

yeah i think that could be it! thanks guys<3

[shrewd owl]

Maybe Minecraft, not sure.

[coral coral]

A couple, when the devs have money or clout a la Disney Dreamlight Valley

[gritty socket]

I'm fairly certan Disney Dreamlight Valley is/was in early access

[azure pumice]

I think Early Access/ BETA on console is not very common, but it is possible

[vocal cargo]

"Beta" is an arbitrary tag, like "Early Access". S6 has stretched beyond anywhere I've seen it before.

[outer atlas]

yes there are games on the switch that are beta but its very strict.. it depends on the country where they allow beta or not

[quiet wasp]

Minecraft came to Nintendo in 2017

[modest merlin]

Yeah, I've honestly not liked how they've used the "beta" tag with this game.

[pastel shard]

Correct! Went from early access to full release last Tuesday

[cold sequoia]

Game feels more stable but between not able to start new quest and fishing bugged idk

[gritty socket]

Oh, btw, the snowballs are accessed from the bug pouch. They also only stack to 10 in your inventory, which is disappointing. I want ALL THE SNOWBALLS

[outer atlas]

agreed
ive said it before and ill say it again... ill never call a game beta if there is a cash shop

[thorn temple]

Another well made patch I see, brilliant 😄

[warm python]

imo since the switch release trailer doesn't say anything about beta or early access or incomplete game or whatever, I'm just considering this out of beta completely come the 14th

[tardy obsidian]

mfw

[outer atlas]

i was really hoping the new bundle quest wasnt broken like the last bundle quest but thats okay im hoping it gets fixed soon

[gritty socket]

Aww... the snowballs don't collide with villagers. They probably do with players, but I'd feel bad

[brisk spruce]

I've been in betas with cash shops before that would grant you currency for it (not able to purchase it) so that they could test everything. those ones are fun. they always get full account-wiped though, obviously.
betas without wipes are super weird to me

[outer atlas]

oh gosh this reminds me of the insider program for SoT ... i love getting coins for free🥲

[shrewd owl]

Yeah this is more Early Access than Beta, I mean if there is a difference.

[north solstice]

Hello guys, i received the letters from Caleri and Elouise but Zeki won't let me start the quest. Is it a bug?

[slow olive]

Has anyone tried the temple yet. I can't climb anything.

[outer atlas]

the difference lost its meaning a long time ago sadly😭

[warm python]

I mean if they/people wanna keep stretching "beta" as they keep putting in more and more and more and more cash shop items (how many did they just add this week alone?) then like...whatever at this point

[gleaming galleon]

Yes me too

[gritty socket]

It's interesting that it seems like a lot of bioluminescence is due to Flow, because IIRC brightshrooms are the same way

[charred vale]

Mines updating to 64%, I’ve tried a few times now, and getting an error message, and it’s just not going to update, or let me play now 😬😬

[slow olive]

Think I'm going to give up for now. It's a mess

[outer atlas]

Climbing on vines and surfaces in the Temple of the Gales is notably janky.
#📢│palia-status message

[shrewd owl]

Mine gave me an error at lik 97% but it did finish after I started it up again.

[slow olive]

I'd say that's an understatement lol

[charred vale]

I’ve tried a few times now, but I shall keep trying! ❤️💜 thank you

[shrewd owl]

Sounds like there is 2 camps, Can't go to the temple and Can't progress in the temple.

[fervent wing]

So, pretty much nothing worked with the new patch. Must be a record, even for S6?

[hasty mist]

Same. I got the letters in the mail, but when I talked to both Caleri and Elouisa, they had no special quest dialogue.

[outer atlas]

i am camp 1😂

[north solstice]

for now I'm still and Zeki isn't telling me anything

[warm python]

camp 3, game is updating so slowly I cant even get in LOL

[shrewd owl]

How could I forget about our Camp 3.

[gritty socket]

I'm in camp one, but at least I can fish while I wait

[outer atlas]

camp 4 for the players that had their game removed and cant download it again... i would hate to be in that camp😭

[warm python]

I've got FFXVI DLC to play at least. though I'm also v tired so I may do that later.

[shrewd owl]

We do need people fishing to see if any holiday boxes are available in the water now

[gritty socket]

I'm going to turn into Einar with all the fish I'm going to need to catch for the previous two bundles

[fervent wing]

We can always decorate our plots with five different piles of snow that all look the same

[warm python]

I heard fishing's messed up for a lot of people rn soooo

[outer atlas]

just dont put it inside because you cant pick it back up

[steep idol]

I forgot that not logging on since halloween means i have to suffer through the wallpaper parade now

[shrewd owl]

They do overlap. you could make a winter wonder land if your in the 1% of Palia and have Snow Money

[gritty socket]

At least the wallpapers themselves are super nice

[potent gyro]

anyone else having problems in the new sky temple with not being able to climb anything

[shrewd owl]

I heard changing servers can solve some fishing issues.

[quiet wasp]

#📢│palia-status

[coral coral]

I just ignore them

[abstract lark]

mans chillin what ur problem

[warm python]

[shrewd owl]

I wanna chill too

[hollow acorn]

Is there this cool bundle with different items in the cash-shop?

[fossil umbra]

ye but i wasnt able to buy it :v

[abstract lark]

yeah just got it, had to reload the payment page a bunch of times tho, they really don't want our money

[gritty socket]

TBH, I think the snow piles are really pretty. They glitter, too.

[hollow acorn]

Uh, I should try it. I am updating atm.

[hard yarrow]

well, how's things after this morning's work that was done?

[fossil umbra]

what can i say they don't want that moneymoneycash

[gritty socket]

Better, but they're going to need to push out a hotfix for some emerging issues, most likely

[hollow acorn]

If they don't want it, I can't pay it, but I try it first.

[indigo dust]

s6 is on break till the end of the year

let them rest guys LOL

[abstract lark]

another temple gatekept, only the cool early worms get to it, take the L noobs

[fossil umbra]

oke lemme know how it goes 😄 fingers crossed you get it

[shrewd nest]

is anyone experiencing a drop in performance (frame rate)

[hollow acorn]

Update is just done. Let's see.

[warm python]

priceisrightfailsfx.wav

[abstract lark]

after switch release on dec14 and then some too for hotfixing that lol, not yet gone

[celest maple]

Will be new to this game Waiting in tell I can play on I’m switch what free rewards would I get from the mail box and other free rewards and more and tell me some tips and tricks and more

[modest merlin]

Is it just me or is this guy showing up like once an hour now?

[fossil umbra]

ye every ingame day for me

[fickle torrent]

Is the temple any fun? Quest is broken for me 😦

[brisk spruce]

yeah it started in 0.174

[modest merlin]

it's awful. Wouldn't recommend it.

[gritty socket]

Yeah, I think the notice was more "We're not adding any new content till after break", but fixes to current content are still in scope, most likely

[vagrant summit]

Is there any point me trying to complete the temple atm, or wait till hotfix?

[hard yarrow]

give me ORE little fox! 🙏🏻

[warm python]

Probably best to wait and play something else imo

[outer atlas]

he shows up everytime i enter my plot hahah

[worn snow]

it doesn't say that in the patch notes, so there's no good reason to assume either way

[modest merlin]

The precedent that we do have suggests there will be no fix until the next patch.

the wording of the announcement to me suggests that there will be no more patches until next

[gritty socket]

on the other hand, we have seen hotfixes pushed out to fix things like this before

[hollow acorn]

I could buy it.

[worn snow]

"Now that the year is coming to a close, though, our studio is going to take a much needed break. Patch 0.175 will be the last for 2023, and we’ll return in 2024. Every Sixer at the studio extends a big thank you to all of our dedicated players who have been along for the journey up to this point." it says it's the last patch, and that they're going to return in 2024 which means they're taking an actual break. not just pausing content.

[hard yarrow]

I'd personally prefer the bugs fixed much more than new content...

[modest merlin]

So while they could unexpectedly release a patch just for this before that time. They've not said that they will.

[gritty socket]

We're really not going to know one way or the other until S6 says something official

[scarlet hazel]

general is very lovely as usual it seems /s

[thorn temple]

Well yet again this was a tremendous waste of time wasn't it.

[thorn shoal]

Why do I have to equip my watering can twice now, how did they even break that?

[brisk spruce]

keep in mind that they do separate the terms hotfix & patch - patches are the new content, hotfixes are fixing the bugs in between patches. it can get a bit confusing when you use patch for both

[worn snow]

yes, we can, we can assume a break is an actual vacation and not just them not pushing new content out, bc that's what would make most sense.

[thorn temple]

where are these fixes kali ;D

[gritty socket]

That's exactly what I'm trying to say, yeah

[brisk spruce]

there used to be a hotfix between every patch. I'm not here to fight with you lmao I'm just pointing out that the terms mean different things

[thorn shoal]

Dumping your biggest ever update before you walk out the door for 3 weeks is not a best practice.

[modest merlin]

Give me the quest, Zeki, or else...

[thorn temple]

and the term hotfix is still wrong, they're all patches because "hotfix" is something that is created fast and applied live with no to minimal downtime; this is something they do not do; they are all therefore patches of varying size.

[worn snow]

but they also said they would be taking a break. if they were going to confirm a potential for a hotfix for bugs, they likely would've said so. there's literally no reason to assume they would drop a hotfix rn (before 2024 i mean) except that it's a hilariously bad idea to Not have a hotfix for your, again, biggest update ever. and just leave it for 3 weeks

[coral coral]

Yeah it's been a hot minute since we had those. I miss it.

[stable raptor]

I'm not too mad at this - pretty much all studios take a break once they release their big December update, regardless of the state the game is in

[brisk spruce]

I'm aware that the term hotfix is still wrong, I'm using THEIR terms. the terms that they use in #📢│palia-status and #📢│palia-news.

@coral coral same 😭

[thorn temple]

and I'm not getting at you Kali hugs, I'm just incredibly peeved with S6 being exceptionally incompetent.

[hollow acorn]

I like the hat a lot from the bundle. I am looking a little weird now. Tropical hat, christmas sweater and the baggy pants.

[thorn temple]

maybe you'll create a trend

[gleaming galleon]

How do I throw it?

[tired night]

so how many folks can not even get the temple quest started? I see a lot of us Locked out!

[brisk spruce]

I never said they would hotfix, why do I keep getting pinged by people 😭 I was pointing out the term difference because someone said "patch" in a place that S6 would call a "hotfix" that's all

[coral coral]

Time to snitch to Subira 😤

[hard yarrow]

It seems that only about half the bugs are fixed before the new content is released, and so the bugs keep multiplying... idk

I love playing this game btw - even in beta its way fun... but all the bugs just kinda sour a great experience. Still, I'm enjoying it way more than not.

[hollow acorn]

I hope so!

[indigo dust]

yall.. take a breath

[modest merlin]

There's no way to know. The people in here are going to be disporptiantly those effected while thoes not effected will be playing the game and ignoring discord.

[worn snow]

i wish they would've dropped the content a bit ago and then had a day or two just dedicated to hotfixes, mostly bc of the disaster from thursday.

i also think it's bad precedent, to me, from like a labor standpoint, to say "we're taking a break for the holidays!" to the public and then also drop things like hotfixes during that break

[thorn temple]

this running animation is utter trash, it looks like they've filled their pants with choglot.... seriously why change what wasn't needed! -.-

[gritty socket]

Now I'm feeling bad I even brought it up tbh, considering you seem to be getting snipped at

[scarlet hazel]

its the gnome run animation from WoW. quite literally cause it looks like the same one in its entirety

[brisk spruce]

I have complained about the bugs countless times, you can check my comment history. I've already said (before the date was announced) I'm only giving it a month post switch release for them to get it together because it's TOO much

[shrewd owl]

"Now that the year is coming to a close, though, our studio is going to take a much needed break. Patch 0.175 will be the last for 2023, and we’ll return in 2024. Every Sixer at the studio extends a big thank you to all of our dedicated players who have been along for the journey up to this point." This is kinda a vague statement, they are going to take a break. Starting when? Is a hotfix a patch or is not could be? All it really says is between now and the end of the year they will not be in the office till the new year starts.

[worn snow]

sorry, i didn't mean to snip, but i see how it came across that way ; - ;

[coral coral]

Happens Kali. I was just saying the pricing for outfits earlier and people got snippy despite me being in full agreement on how the monetization could be better. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[thorn shoal]

It seriously ruins the playing experience having to watch that waggling. I had to change outfits because the puffy sleeves made it look so much worse.

[scarlet hazel]

you can even see its the same with how you swing any tool in your hand. to me anyway. now if it was the night elf or draenei run animation i bet there would be a lot less complaints /silly xD

[quiet wasp]

Not only dropping a whole patch but in a few days, adding a whole different system into the mix which I’m more nervous for than excited. Are they going to still be there when it hits or will they already be on break? As much as I love Palia so far every release has had some major hiccups

[thorn temple]

so frustrating... so many of these things are avoidable with proper comms between themselves and us, yet.... BOOM; pisses me off so much -.-

[worn snow]

i agree, yeah. i think it means they're actually taking a holiday, but it's so vague u could rly read it as anything lol

[stable raptor]

tbf, I haven't played the game since...uh, when did the whole pet controversy happen again? like June/July, later? I've only kept a passive, somewhat interested ear out to see what becomes of the game

and yeah, I agree, leaving everything in a state that requires a hotfix, is a bad precedent, sadly though, we can only wait and see what happens now

[modest merlin]

There's honestly no point in discussing this. You're right that it's vague. You could interpret it different ways, and only S6 could elaborate.
Just wait for that update from them, and submit bug reports about it so they know exactly how many people are affected, and hopefully that will encourage them to fix the issue sooner rather than later.

[worn snow]

yeah i'm worried it'll come crumbling down. i understand why they want to do stuff for the holidays but eugh it seems stressful

[indigo dust]

i genuinely believe its a hobby for some people to come in here and complain about the same issues 100 times without reading what s6 actually has to say.

i agree that all talking points should be stated, but some people just repeat things over and over and it makes the atmosphere of the discord so bitter. i see the same users every day lol, have most of them blocked atp.

[shrewd owl]

Oh I agree, I am just participating in the discussion.

[zealous pike]

[brave cargo]

So is the party we're supposed to avoid because people are getting stuck in it from the Winterlights Wonder or Look to the Sky quest?

[scarlet hazel]

i read what s6 has to say and i come here to voice my complaints with others who feel the same cause its nice to talk to ppl who are in a similar boat with me

[dire berry]

can't sync with friends, it keeps saying the other person isn't on their plot.. which is a DUH, because both of us were on the killima map..

[modest merlin]

Well, I mean, I get it. They want to play, but they can't. So they come to discord to hang out instead. And since they cannot enjoy or discuss the new content, all they can really do is discuss that they cannot play the new content.

[warm python]

Y'know, I was gonna type something, but I'm probably blocked and really it ain't worth it lol

[worn snow]

same lol

genuine question based on what they said in the patch notes, did people really complain ab the "jumpiness" of the running? i dont know or remember any of that but it's plenty possible i just missed it

[hard yarrow]

idk... I came here to see what ppl were discussing b4 I had probs

THEN the problems started & I was already here...

[brisk spruce]

I would like to know this too lol I want to do the quests on one account and avoid them on the other, so I can maybe see what bug reports I can send in to help

[indigo dust]

personally i didnt have a prob with it, but i saw people complaining about it a couple months ago

[vocal cargo]

If they fixed the issues, we wouldn't have to keep complaining about them. 3 major bugs in existence for 4 months, still not fixed.

[scarlet hazel]

the old running animation was stiff, not jumpy imo really

[brave cargo]

don't get me started on AccomplishNOTs

[warm python]

If it rains outside every weekend, I'm still gonna be grumbling when I wake up on the seventh saturday in a row to it pouring out my window

[brisk spruce]

I saw a couple people asking if it changed and calling it bouncy after 0.174, but I didnt notice a change myself during that one (here's an example #💬│palia-general message)

[indigo dust]

still have no idea which starred fish i dont have LOLLL

[quiet wasp]

Idk and it seems absolutely so random. I wish they were more transparent about stuff like that. Like “this amount of people found this to be a problem, who else does?” Or something. And how are things chosen to be a priority to be fixed? What counts as a priority? Things like that. As always, just more communication lol

[brave cargo]

I have it worse: all of the fish and bug accomplishments are complete, but I'm not getting any credit for one of them

[worn snow]

a roadmap would b lovely

[thorn temple]

not practical for this company, there's no way they could stick to it AND it be playable

[quiet wasp]

This has been begged for since the beginning of time they said one was supposedly coming but that was literal months ago

[magic trench]

There's still no roadmap? Whew

[vocal cargo]

Yeah, they said roadmap and gave us a dev update 🤦

[thorn shoal]

Every big release has huge bugs, and most of them are not well received by the player base. It's time to do something different.

[worn snow]

i just really wish they would plan for more things to go wrong than they are currently. it feels like they're shocked every time a bug happens instead of planning for the worst ://

[thorn shoal]

They're using the player base as testers, which is not actually what "beta" means

[quiet wasp]

What’s funny is that some of the workers have made similar comments on Glassdoor

And I honestly agree as well. Things aren’t going too well so it’s time to try a different approach

[warm python]

Like...we were talking yesterday about it but they need a test server or something. If stuff keeps breaking when going live, maybe they should. yknow. make it live to a smaller amount of people then fix the bugs that will 100% show up. then push it to the general playerbase. idk.

whatever they have going on right now, it hasn't been working, it's not working, and with the switch version added to the plate now it's going to make it even harder

[crystal junco]

This update has fixed all the problems I had. It's so good now. 😄

[thorn shoal]

haha

[vocal cargo]

Ford engineer "Our air bags don't work"
Management "Keep the production schedule and we'll fix it later"

[gritty socket]

I mean, that's a bit of a false equivalence.

[thorn shoal]

Or maybe it's a metaphor

[vocal cargo]

Maybe it's Maybelline

[warm python]

damnit I was just typing that out

[thorn shoal]

Because we're worth it

[worn snow]

easy breezy beautiful covergirl

[hard yarrow]

fortunately for me I kept 1 each of all my starred fish & bugs in my lockbox

this is the only solution I can think of for that issue

[gritty socket]

I mean, it's a bad one for that, too, IMO. If an airbag on a car fails, that can cause a lot of harm. If a quest in a video game is unavailable... that's just frustrating.

[warm python]

Anyway now that the switch version is coming out next week, patches aren't going to be as frequent, so it should be interesting seeing bugs last even longer now

[spark pawn]

It almost feels like they lost a key architect or developer. When an top dev leaves the projects (especially if it wasn’t on great terms) it can be really hard to pull that code apart and move forward with the code base. I’ve def seen things just get thrown out and remade bc no one could understand where the dev was going. And honestly after the glassdoor reviews we saw 👀 I could see some of this

[worn snow]

it's a metaphor oh my god, metaphors aren't usually equivilant like that

[scarlet hazel]

at this point ill just watch them crash and burn. i feel bad for the devs who do care about the game, but its just gonna get worse as time goes on

[vocal cargo]

Or they both cause people to not trust your product for a long time

[gritty socket]

That's a more accurate comparison, I'll grant

[worn snow]

come on. who died and made you king of metaphors.

[warm python]

Yeah something def wonky going on behind the scenes D:

[quiet wasp]

Makes the metaphor even funnier when you see that Ford is one of the top most trusted car brands

[west marlin]

Sometimes it's better just to say nothing and silently seeth

[vocal cargo]

Ford took a long time to come back from their paint issues in the 70s

[zealous pike]

the server i'm on is saying palium is changed locations?

[quiet wasp]

From the reviews I read, something for sure happened between 2019-2021ish. Cause that’s when the employee reviews started to become real negative

[worn snow]

this is like saying "shall i compare thee to a summer's day" is a bad metaphor because she's a person and not a season

[warm python]

/sage nods, takes notes, pretending to know about cars

[hard yarrow]

it can be at anywhere iron nodes appear

[crystal junco]

Haha, we are in the same one

[gritty socket]

Possibly, but I certainly hope not. My hope is that we see more of a focus on fixes in 2024, once they aren't having to push to launch on Switch. It really feels like a lot of the issues are due to the team being spread thin, since they're relatively small

[warm python]

Fixes are prolly gonna come slower, though, because they'll have to wait for switch certification

[coral coral]

They're running out of money. Lots of people were laid off or left of their own accord. They're trying to run as lean as possible but it just leads to everyone left being overworked. It's why they felt like they HAD to launch on Switch even if not ready.

[west marlin]

I mean they certainly didn't have to waste the last six months on a switch launch

[quiet wasp]

Well it depends on what you view as small. They used to have over 200 employees. They had some layoffs but they’re still over 100

[hard yarrow]

as per the notes:

"Starstones have been additionally adjusted.
The drop rates have been reduced overall.
The price of some Starstones have also been adjusted.
Citrine: 600 → 400g
Quartz: 250 → 200g
Garnet: 400 → 300g
We’ve adjusted the location of Palium spawns.
Palium can now spawn from any location where Iron Ore nodes also appear."

[worn snow]

like saying "all the world's a stage" is a bad metaphor bc stages aren't spherical like the earth

[thorn temple]

maybe all the stages are round, we just can't see it 😱

[warm python]

okay but there's that new venue in Vegas--

(I tease, ilu)

[vocal cargo]

Oh, a 2 week "break" over the holidays would sync Switch updates with PC updates, if they don't actually take a break.

[zealous pike]

always nerfing lol

[gritty socket]

From talking to someone last night, 200 is a bit on the smaller side for an MMO studio

[toxic marsh]

#🤝│quest-help message
gale temple bundle (if anyone interested)

[west marlin]

If they haven't fixed their backend/client side issues they're gonna be in trouble on the switch.it would have been better to come out in a polished state instead of, for example, running an expensive ad at the vga when your game is literally down and unplayable

[worn snow]

technically ur right bcos they are round bc the earth is round and not flat, but like. you know what i mean ; - ; (also lighthearted)

[hard yarrow]

I know, huh... the drop rates decreased as well 😭

[warm python]

how many new paid items just got added in the last few days out of curiosity lmao

[vocal cargo]

First impressions being what they are

[gritty socket]

Yeah, unfortunately, that's a common issue in a lot of tech companies right now. A lot of places overspent because of covid projections, and VC money's drying up

[quiet wasp]

200 is, quite a lot 😅 many studios tend to have way less

[worn snow]

omg ur right shakespeare was just a prophet this whole time we've been mistaking his writing as metaphors when they're actually predictions

[old dirge]

remember this includes hr/benefits, accounting, finance, legal, writers, artists, pr/marketing, it, help desk, and community management in addition to people working on the project management, coding, game design, and infrastructure

[west marlin]

What would I know tho I've only worked on a indie success title that sank itself trying to release to switch 🥴

[quiet wasp]

Yes I know lol I highly doubt it would just be 200 game devs

[brisk spruce]

5 outfit sets and 2 gliders (first gliders came in a set of 3, so less than 1 set of gliders)
not counting promotional items that are free

[uncut adder]

i am confused... i am confused about the accountlinking on the nintendo switch.. On the Blog page where info about linking is. They on this page kind of saying to different things. first they say i need to log in with my current account the first time i start palia on nintendo and then say yes to linking, and then down in the FAQ they say i need to link accounts prior to playing for the first time... i am confused

[vocal cargo]

Yeah, Seeds is around 80, though they are expanding. It is only 2 years in but the game is progressing. Still in Alpha though and the last play test uncovered a lot of bug.

[hard yarrow]

I personally... I was looking for items to buy anyhow... I just wanna support their endeavor... I know that not everyone has the means or inclination to do so, but it makes it easier for me personally to get something in return for that support.

that said... loot boxes are a no-go for me.

[warm python]

There's no problem with you wanting to buy the items, I just keep 🍿 at the continuous flood of new paid things when the game is still in this state

[zealous pike]

oh if they do lootboxes and advertising for them i'm done

[gritty socket]

They've stated that Loot Boxes are one of their hard lines that they won't cross, IIRC. If that happens, we know things are dire

[vocal cargo]

I'm probably in the minority but I have no problem with them releasing shop items, even with the updates how they are. Artists aren't fixing bugs and they apparently need cashflow.

[hard yarrow]

totally understandable

[old dirge]

or they've been acquired 😬

[gritty socket]

Honestly, as a whole it looks like most of the industry is moving away from lootboxes? Or at least they're becoming a less popular option, gachas aside

[vocal cargo]

Not going to lie, when I first saw "Epic news", I thought they had been acquired. LuL

[quiet wasp]

What would even be in loot boxes though? I can’t imagine anything other than cosmetic stuff

[warm python]

same LOL

[vocal cargo]

But Epic has Lego Fortnite so that wasn't happening.

[old dirge]

starstones, pearls, previous metals, things that help you get epic fish and bugs, coveted decor from around the world that's not makeable or winnable, and cosmetics?

[umbral marsh]

what a light beam. Maybe the sun wants to tell me something 😩

[warm python]

walk on it!!

[patent stone]

The sun is a deadly laaaaseeeer

[gritty socket]

I'm usually a dolphin at most on gachas anyway; most of the characters I've got on Genshin are from free currency, since I'm not too bothered if I miss a character. I wanted Wriothsley, but I wasn't going to destroy my budget pulling for him

[north solstice]

why doesn't zaki let me start the temple quest?

[vocal cargo]

Maybe it points to where to find snowballs?

[worn snow]

i could keep going but like the point of metaphors, similies, analogies, and the like is that they're not akin to one another at all except in a couple particular ways. the way shakespeare's lover is like a summer's day is that she's "lovely and temprate" but even shakespeare concedes they're not the same, alas, she's better. the world is unlike a stage in most ways, but in the way that we are all pretending and "preforming" for others, it stands to reason that it seems like a stage to all of us. no, we won't all die if the game breaks, but it is similar to a car company pushing through their air bags malfunctioning to get the product out. they know full well it doesn't work, but they want the money, even if it harms their reputation in the end.

sorry, english class adjourned. can u tell my mom is a poet ; - ;

[gritty socket]

So the already existing stuff from Zeki that's free

[vocal cargo]

Are they having to approve snowball messages by hand? Every one I've sent has sat in that slightly greyed out state for a few seconds.

[gritty socket]

Huh, neat! And yeah, I'll admit my argument was flawed in retrospect. Just frustrated at... a lot of things right now, really

[worn snow]

zerogiven how do u feel being compared to shakespeare 😎

[thick sundial]

Yet they spent how much $ for a trailer at the Game Awards last night? I cannot imagine being an employee and watching a colleague get laid off, only to find out my company spent thousands upon thousands to market their botched Switch launch at an awards show.

[old dirge]

but also the green froggy bucket, books, flag bunting, and I can't think of other stuff off hand rn

[vocal cargo]

That is how gacha boxes in quite a few games work. Mostly normal but rare in-game items with a very low chance of something big.

[hard yarrow]

I get it.

ppl don't want to support bad service. I usually give a bunch of chances myself... if things don't eventually stabilize, then I'll drop support.

like if a server at a restaurant is doing poor service, I'll tip extra b/c maybe they're just having a bad day... but if I return & the same server is still doing a terrible job, then my percentage might go down (but never below %15 - b/c ppl need to eat lol)

[shrewd owl]

First thoughts.

[gritty socket]

The main difference is - thankfully - we don't have to pay actual money for a chance to pull stuff. In fact, we explicitly can't

[vocal cargo]

Oh, I agree. I haven't spent a dime because I didn't see what I expected out of S6.

[coral coral]

A lot of funds are pre-allocated. I'm sure doing the announcement at the awards show was decided over a year ago. Launching on Switch and increasing the player base and general visibility of the game may bring in new investors.

I would handle things differently but yeah, it's where we're at.

[vocal cargo]

Why can't I be Shakespeare's lover?

[thick sundial]

Ok so they intentionally prioritized marketing funds over wages. Even worse.

[hard yarrow]

I never knew about all this...

[brisk spruce]

excuse me but I quit school years ago, you can't just throw me into a lecture like this

[worn snow]

thou art more lovely and more temperate ^_^

[patent stone]

There was literally zero reason for anyone to get mad at you about metaphors lmao

[thick sundial]

Double double toil and trouble… fire burn and cauldron bubble…

✨🌙

Oh look… Palia is fixed!

[worn snow]

same i wish i could attend school without tests and essays and whatnot

[old dirge]

still paying wages to their marketing/promo/pr team... unless they have a vendor for that

[hard yarrow]

what the heck is this?

[brisk spruce]

right? way more entertaining.

[thick sundial]

Not sure if they commission someone to market for them or if they do it internally… my guess is internally but hard to say

[warm python]

Honestly same, I loved the learning, hated all the tests and papers and homework and everything else

@hard yarrow a bug that happened before that's happening again, disregard it

[zealous pike]

i got that warning too, i think it's just in case they had to revert any clothing

[quiet wasp]

#📢│palia-status

[gritty socket]

Yeah, layoffs are industry-wide rn, and it's rough for a lot of development teams. Which makes a lot of the "this is the best year for games ever" talk read really hollow to me lately

[haughty kernel]

Anyone trying to make standard arrow and it doesn't count it? I made 12 and none got added. The first 4 I made should have been up to 80, but it literally made 4.

[worn snow]

except that he said it was a bad equivilancy and then said it was a bad metaphor bcos comparing the bugs to something deadly.... and when i tried explaining initially he didn't respond at all... ://

[thick sundial]

Did you watch TGA? First announcement they were talking about the “golden years of gaming” and I looked at my boyfriend wide eyed… it’s like… wow… Rung hollow for sure

[patent stone]

I mean if someone pinged me like 4 times to sarcastically put words in my mouth, I wouldn’t respond either?? You went really hard on them and made a big sarcastic thing out of it for no reason at all.

[warm python]

yeah I was like "UHHHHHH" bruh.... Did we get some fantastic games this year, yes. did the industry absolutely ruin a lot of people's lives, more importantly, yes

[worn snow]

i didn't ping them i pinged myself those times??? i also wasn't being sarcastic at all, i was making an equivilancy

[thick sundial]

Yeah. Also talking about “game for impact” when Coral Island raised $70k for charity, demonstrating the impact they’ve had, and then giving the award to a game I’ve never even heard of in my life.

[west marlin]

Who was mad tho

[gritty socket]

Like, don't get me wrong, I'm excited about the announcements, but I'm not going to pretend that everything is hunky-dory with the industry as a whole. It's honestly part of why I'm being so understanding about all the issues; the devs are probably going through hell to actually ship a product

[patent stone]

This was the third ping in a row lol

[warm python]

No one was mad and the discussion which was over got brought back up again for no good reason lmao

[fossil umbra]

quick question... PC players won't get leapfroggy outfit?

[thick sundial]

I don’t blame the developers for following direction. I blame executive level and management for giving out their crap direction.

[brisk spruce]

why must we argue the true enemy is WizardCrab! ||(channeling HeckinGoose for a sec here...)||

[gritty socket]

I mean, I was a little annoyed, but I'm honestly over it

[vocal cargo]

When did this become #💬│palia-general ?

[patent stone]

I just don’t think we need to annoy people to respond if they don’t wanna

[west marlin]

Best to stop talking about it then

[worn snow]

oh, that. i didn't mean for it to be sarcastic or mean or anything, but i get excited about metaphors bcos i like poetry.

[warm python]

If you weren't part of the conversation and the people involved have moved on, why does it have to keep being brought up

[thick sundial]

DOUBLE DOUBLE TOIL AND TROUBLE. FIRE BURN AND CAULDRON BUBBLE.

✨🦀 🐸

[patent stone]

I said one thing. You are now keeping it going. I would rather people talk about the game than English class lmao

[brisk spruce]

I believe that happened on Tuesday/Wednesday after the servers went down for maintenance and... well, y'know. things just haven't been the same since.

[vocal cargo]

There was less uproar over the person that compared the starstone nerf to September 11th.

[west marlin]

English class was great tho, almost as good as art

[scarlet hazel]

there isnt much to talk about the game ngl except the mountains of bugs an glitches that keep happening. and also the nerfs

[worn snow]

someone did that? man

[thick sundial]

It’s a free country Lemon Wedge. I will talk about WizardCrab and Hamlet all I want! Shakespeare outfits in the shop when??? 🦀

[patent stone]

The WHAT

[warm python]

please tell me you're kidding I---

[vocal cargo]

I wish

[west marlin]

Lmao what
God I love this discord more then I love the game

[scarlet hazel]

hopefully they got muted for that then lol

[thorn shoal]

You guys are funny. Everything has to turn into big drama and controversy.

[shrewd owl]

Well we complained about the state of things till someone said

[thick sundial]

Who was S6 in this scenario?

[worn snow]

i dont see why i cant be excited about things, like if you thought i was being mean for no reason u couldve asked. at that point i didn't really even expect a response from him i was just talking for the sake of talking :// and i was just kidding ab the english class thing and apologizing for such a long paragraph. again, you could've asked before assuming i was being malicious

[coral coral]

Multicraft being broken is a known issue 💔

[warm python]

I'm glad we entertain you, I guess?

[vocal cargo]

I blocked them but the message never deleted so I doubt anything happened. The moderation is very inconsistent.

[scarlet hazel]

all the mods are asleep, busy working or already went on break. so the discord will certainly be very fun for a bit now

[worn snow]

yeah it does seem the mods are gone recently

[thick sundial]

Stfu does that mean it’s still in this chat so where? SOMEONE FIND THIS. We need justice.

[brisk spruce]

the message did get deleted, it's not there anymore
it just took a while

[vocal cargo]

Search "This is my 9/11" might bring it up

[west marlin]

In an effort to disarm this discussion can I just say I like ur profile banner @patent stone

[patent stone]

I didn’t say you were being malicious! just very sarcastic. And that I wouldn’t reply to that either. People seem to think I’m really mad about this, but I was just pointing out why they probably didn’t reply (sorry btw I don’t mean to turn this chat into a second general, it just seems to be a downtime where there’s not much else to talk about)
Also I love crab wizard I’d never try to silence crab wizard

[scarlet hazel]

yeah or they try to put the rules in chat as if that does anything really

[shrewd owl]

I would pick today to forget to sharpen my pitch fork.

[thick sundial]

If you are a WizardCrab stan then I’m pulling out the premium grade beef.

You know that’s serious cause I’m vegetarian.

[worn snow]

oh thaaaat was probably a joke thankfully, but if someone legit compared it to 9/11 that would b so weird

[fossil umbra]

My dyslexia read "#palia-disfunction" instead of discussion

[warm python]

I mean....

[vocal cargo]

Same thing really

[west marlin]

Petition to rename this channel

[patent stone]

I’m sorry I just love carcinization, I think MORE species should become crabs

[thick sundial]

Chapaa Crab pet in the shop when?

[worn snow]

it just seemed like u had already decided i was being mean before even talking to me about it which doesn't feel all that great, but it's okay

[shrewd owl]

Considering this the discussion board in the Palia server doesn't that mean as long as we can stay on a topic for more than 2 posts it is a discussion?

[brisk spruce]

free chapaa pet when? still waiting

[warm python]

I just learned a new word today. Carcinization. I feel like I've seen memes with that tho

[distant delta]

Anyone know if they’re going to refund us for the big chest? I just spent 100k last week before they changed the price.. been saving up forever, and honestly is a little annoying

[buoyant kite]

Its winterlights festival and they didnt even put string lights in to the holiday shop? i was so looking forward to putting up lights around my house T_T

[thick sundial]

If we get a free crab pet… it would be the ultimate WizardCrab meta moment

[brisk spruce]

honestly I would take it and be happy.

[warm python]

Support got back to several people who asked about it and no refunds will be coming

[quiet wasp]

Giant crab mount

[fossil umbra]

i'm in, because I even though for a sec "Oh wow... can't believe they did that but it does make sense" I didn't even question it

[thick sundial]

CRAB GLIDER IN THE SHOP!!!!

[quiet wasp]

WAIT is there really 👀

[gritty socket]

Honestly, I've wanted a Hopalong pet since they first confirmed they were a thing with those puffs from the Maji Market.

[patent stone]

Ah yes I see!! Sarcasm reads as pretty disingenuous online. Sorry !! Also I liked ur analysis, I love creative English

[warm python]

next upcoming mount y/y?

[distant delta]

Thanks for letting me know. That’s a total bummer

[worn snow]

again i wasn't trying to be sarcastic, but yeah it's okay i forgive u and sorry if i wasnt making myself clear

[thick sundial]

I wish. God what I would PAY for that. I would re install and spend $ faster than you could say “this game is in beta”

[quiet wasp]

Me when they finally add in the cute pirate outift(s)

[warm python]

/sits in the "capybara or bust" corner tho

[thorn shoal]

I don't love the price changing without notice. At least let us sell the rubies we already had, like when we had notice for cakes.

[shrewd owl]

Just don't tell em where you got this from.

[worn snow]

awwwww the ugly christmas sweater bundle is kinda cute

[thorn shoal]

I really hope they just give everyone the leaked recipes. I don't see how they can justify not doing that now.

[gritty socket]

Honestly, only the Sernuk one is really 'ugly', and even then, I've always loved the look of that Log Sernuk

[worn snow]

77.77774% off is funny

[scarlet hazel]

77.77% off is just a complete scam. It's either 30, 40, 70 or 90. No weird in between like that

[tardy obsidian]

lol my deranged idea to unplug internet actually worked to fix climbing and unblock my quest XD

[warm python]

LOL

[worn snow]

i totally agree i think he's cute and silly lookin

why is my character so far away..... pls come back bbg 😭

[shrewd owl]

Okay everybody I am sending a signal to the Devs that there is a problem.

[scarlet hazel]

Some of the new outfits I do like and wish I could get them

[patent stone]

I’m mildly insane so I’ve been keeping a copy of every star quality bug and fish to make my home a zoo. I defs need to make a log sernuk paddock too

[worn snow]

yeah thats part of why im lookin at the bundle see if it's worth it. hopefully it wont go away if they're srsly not doing fomo tactics?

[gritty socket]

I've been hoping that a future update adds in some sort of instanced museum you can donate bugs and fish too

[obtuse tangle]

the new running animation is borderline unplayable for me, it makes me irrationally mad to look at, whyyyyy did they make it like that 😭

[scarlet hazel]

You'd hate playing a gnome in WoW then lol they run the same way but it actually fits them cause of how small they are

[shrewd owl]

Same.

[thorn shoal]

I would rather have a pick your own bundle. Although I'm holding off on purchases in protest of how badly they keep destabilizing the game.

[gritty socket]

It seems like how some games do a little starter bundle. I don't see it going away, and I think it's honestly going to be sort of nice if someone wants to buy the other stuff in the future

[worn snow]

yeah if the game gets to a point where i start actually playing it again i may indeed buy something, but i like these bundles

[shrewd owl]

There is 125+ Blue Common Butterflies in that pic among other things.

[gritty socket]

...but... why...

[scarlet hazel]

The new run animation is just the gnome run animation and I will die on that hill honestly. It looks way too similar and the way tools swings when running looks almost like how gnomes swing their weapons when running

[thorn shoal]

I have a guest room made out of butterflies! Because they're so pretty and graceful.

[shrewd owl]

I don't know

[fossil umbra]

way too much weird movement in the shoulders

[obtuse tangle]

fr! they get so narrow and weird when you run, it ruins the look of my outfits

[worn snow]

been running around for a while now and yes the running animation looks weird, if anyone cares ab my opinion on it :3

[thorn shoal]

Anything with sleeves makes you look like a clown now when you run

[scarlet hazel]

Its really weird in a "this is from WoW but they didn't bother to polish it" way to me

[gritty socket]

I mean, I guess I don't see it. I'm using the more masculine frame, though

[thorn shoal]

That's another thing, why did they only do it to one class of characters??

[worn snow]

oh my god do u guys remember the patch where they made the dinging noise in chat when people made requests

[obtuse tangle]

i honestly loved the running animation before idk why they changed it

[scarlet hazel]

Yep. The ding noise was awful

[sudden bay]

Just got in game and the running animation is totally borked. I can't believe they tested this and thought it looked good!

[worn snow]

the way ppl r reacting and the way i'm also reacting reminds me of that

[obtuse tangle]

im saying! like who approved that

[scarlet hazel]

I bet they didn't test it at all. I don't think they test any of the patches Tbh.

[sudden bay]

That's as far as I've gotten so far lol

[old dirge]

side to side sway has replaced the up and down bounce - not sure it that really fixes the visual safety issues

[scarlet hazel]

It most likely makes it worse actually instead of helping. S6 is not accessibility or disabled friendly at all

[worn snow]

someone should do a tiktok trend where u run like this character it looks so strange

[fossil umbra]

why do you wish for people to break their spines?

[sudden bay]

I bet they couldn't fix the outfits to fit the currrent animation so said screw it just change the animation

[spark pawn]

does anyone feel the running speed is also a bit slower? I feel like it’s taking me longer to run places. Not by much but idk it feels off

[sudden bay]

About to check that out.

[earnest stone]

i just logged in , boy is the running animation ugly.. Can i get the old one back?

[thorn shoal]

I often feel like the running speed changes after a patch, but don't have a way to tell. I figured it was maybe just my impression. Sometimes it feels like if I disable tools (esp the fishing rod) I run faster.

[celest maple]

Dm me if you want to be friends with me on palia and discord if you want to I be able to play on the. 14th

[vocal cargo]

Maybe it feels longer because you have to watch that weird animation? Like Thanksgiving at the in-laws?

[sudden bay]

Running speed feels the same.

[thorn shoal]

I wish they had polling or some way so we could express our feedback en masse.

If you think about how you spend time in the game, like 80% of it is watching your character running

[old dirge]

the patch notes say

Adjustments
The running animation has been adjusted based on feedback.
Overall, it should feel a little less “jumpy.”

[earnest stone]

if there would ne a polling we for sure had alreay shoes and pants seperated^^

[vocal cargo]

90% of my time is spent staring into Jina's dreamy eyes

[worn snow]

i agree but then we would all like, know we all have the same feedback and also know that they aren't doing anything w that feedback and then it would be bad for them

[thorn shoal]

Her broken glasses don't bother you?

[celest maple]

I need some friends on palia wen im able to play on the 14th

[shell magnet]

Does anyone have any tips for best money making farm layouts?

[tardy obsidian]

does anyone have any comparison with the animation or is it just people overreacting

[spark pawn]

Try checking out #1135682474324807681

[vocal cargo]

There are channels for joining communities and for gardening

[celest maple]

I'm a glasses wearer and they bother me so much, she's gotta have the worse migraine

[shell magnet]

Thank you!

[sudden bay]

no we aren't overreacting. it looks stupid

[worn snow]

like ik logically my opinions ab the game aren't very unpopular they're just argued with on discord bc it's literally named discord, it's kind of the perfect format for debate (no shade at all i love u guys) but i know if there were a poll i think at least 30% of people would share the exact same opinions as me across the board (ab this game) and like some of my opinions ik would be 85% popular

[vocal cargo]

If you don't see it, go to Channels and Roles to get access. Click on Browse and you'll see a complete list rather than joining roles.

[cinder temple]

I'm so glad I'm not the only weirdo with a basic butterfly wall.

[thorn shoal]

Spoilers

[civic valve]

umm lol

[thorn temple]

time for ghostbusters there brady

[vocal cargo]

T-pose. Most likely, they see their character correctly.

[thorn shoal]

I've seen my character in t-pose twice and it's SO hard to play that way. Some tools work but it's hard to aim them. Hoe doesn't work at all.

[modest merlin]

man, it sucks seeing all this new content and not being able to play it

[scarlet hazel]

#🤝│game-help could, well, help. Also make sure to spoil any pics of the air temple since its a spoiler and some ppl arent able to access it

[pastel temple]

sorry

[thorn shoal]

Merry Winterlights, here's some content that you can't access, enjoy your FOMO. Remember with the fire temple stones when they were like "this is only a problem for some players" where some players = everyone except the very first person on a brand new server?

[coral creek]

anyone still not got christmas tree yet? 🤣

[sudden bay]

Ok, the running animation looks way better with a long sleeved shirt on.

[thorn shoal]

Not if the sleeves are poofy.

[bold bluff]

agree, is awfull

[sudden bay]

True, I just picked on that looked best and well....no more money from me for premium content that's for sure

[obtuse tangle]

as someone who, with peace and love, thinks most of the complaints against the game are overreactions, no the new animation is actually terrible

[old dirge]

since they now have both animations it could probably be a toggle - sway or bounce. Though that is one of the pricey bits about really good accessibility, you have to maintain multiple versions of things and make multiple versions everywhere that setting should control.

[royal arch]

LOL my character loaded into Bahari in a T pose once I ran around and she was stuck that way, had to reload.

[warm sandal]

;-; welp im one of those lucky ppl that didnt get the quest after the letters. also after the update my graphic settings were all reset.

[raven garnet]

Any thoughts on what I need to do here? Did all the item quests here but cant get Zeki to pop. Is this not the main island - the one with the giant eye - like the name of the quest?

[frosty adder]

how to uninstall palia?

[soft turtle]

Is there an faq for the switch release anyone can point me to?

[sharp kestrel]

Me too.

[vocal cargo]

Add/Remove Programs

[thorn temple]

add/remove in windows settings zen, I honestly can't blame you - but if it's to help fix a bug I wouldn't bother, it's not your end

[warm sandal]

-hugs - good to know im not alone

[old dirge]

I also did not get the quest with the letters and the suggested workaround to talk to zeki didn't trigger it

[brisk spruce]

https://palia.com/news/ns-launch-reveal
and for the rewards there's an extra page
https://palia.com/news/nintendo-switch-rewards

[warm sandal]

oh talking to zeki is supposed to help?

[sharp kestrel]

Nope I talked to Zeki before I new it was a workaround and all he wanted to talk about was his duplifier!

[old dirge]

one person in #🦋│issues-discussions said that was the response to the ticket they put in

[white stream]

I picked up the new bundle (the $8 one) to encourage hopefully more reasonable costs in the future. Because of the glider skin 3-pack + 1 $17 outfit bundle + this new bundle = about $34. Versus spending that much on one outfit. I feel like i got a fair amount of stuff for that price.

[old dirge]

I love the capsule idea - a limited selection of that quarter's or that season's designs for a bit cheaper than getting a single bundle of one design family

[sharp kestrel]

I'm just glad the new free dlc for God of War comes out next week. That's where I'll be spending my time!

[oak siren]

I’m so how anyone is finishing the temple with how glitchy it is

[warm sandal]

just talked to him and nothing happened well to put in a ticket for the first time for me

[sudden bay]

S6: well we screwed up patch 174. What do we do now....I know lets relase another one with even worse stuff and then go on vacation till the first of next year. It will be our xmas gift to ourselves!

[old dirge]

most tech companies have a hard code freeze (no routine pushes and no fixes unless it's for something incident/outage level) from sometime in december until sometime in january due to holidays, illness, and other pto. You don't plan changes when you KNOW you won't have the resources to handle it. (which is why the thanksgiving week patch and today's are surprise - day before a 5 day weekend where people travel and day before a week that includes Hanukah)

[thorn temple]

savage, but true

[tardy obsidian]

lol my vault of gales quest just restarted

...or did it. Those quest names are confusing. nvm it's the bundle quest

[royal arch]

No quest after receiving the mail from Eloisusa. Soo yeah and for some reason I can't accept the snowballs keeps saying my inventory is full but its not. 🤷‍♀️

[brisk spruce]

it's apparently 10 stacks, do you have 10 spaces? ( #📢│palia-status mentions it)

[vocal cargo]

You need 10 slots open to get the snowballs

[warm sandal]

my other thing was the update resetting my graphics settings and then i had to mess with them again and then when i logged in, having to zoom read through tutorials again

[royal arch]

Ohh right of course lol thanks guys..lol

[thorn shoal]

Wow, you can get into a state where you can't select your tools at all anymore and have to relog. That's going to be amazing when I run into a rainbow butterfly and can't get the belt equipped.

[gritty socket]

Yeah, they're probably having to crunch hard to meet deadlines, which is... disappointing

[zealous pike]

T_T

[polar oracle]

judging by the comments here i see they still haven't hired anything resembling a QA or test department?

[warm python]

Things are uhhh rough as you can see lol

[zealous pike]

hello my name is free labor, i mean player

[thorn shoal]

Okay I figured it out. If you select a tool, then you to to the bottom circle which is supposed to unselect all tools, then it will equip the one you wanted in the first place.

[brisk spruce]

I've been checking their job openings since August, and they've had QA apps open for the entire time so uh... 👀

[gritty socket]

They probably have at least some QA (no one here knows how S6 is structured, even if they claim to), but they're likely being overworked. Also, sometimes QA miss things, they're only human

[thorn shoal]

Plenty of bugs have gotten through that any human who logged in a single time would've caught. Like the clothing repair on login error.

[barren sage]

Wow that's my day

[zealous pike]

.> like the fishing indicator missing?

[polar oracle]

eh it's afree game, and as long as the bugs ain't permanently game breaking...

[dense ermine]

About that...

[old dirge]

it's a flow grove, those were a feature added 3? patches ago

[zealous pike]

i think they mean they get to wait in-game hours for people to argue when to chop?

[polar oracle]

Hence why i've held off logging on after the patch 😬

[brave remnant]

Finally got my response on temple quest issue…. The response is to talk to zeki and if that didn’t work, then I need to wait 24 hours Real Time to try again……. 😑😑😑

[gritty socket]

There's a reason that most game dev unionization pushes are starting in the QA departments. I'm not even singling S6 out here, it's an industry-wide issue

[barren sage]

Oh okay I didn't know

[brisk spruce]

I channeled you earlier to redirect the conversation onto wizardy crabs

[thorn shoal]

When they say 10 inventory slots, do they mean inventory or backpack?

[zealous pike]

a grove spawns every in-game day at midnight

[brave remnant]

So basically everyone who can’t do it, just keep trying everyday until it does show up 🤷‍♂️

[umbral marsh]

Has anyone finished the gale temple?? I cant find all the items OTL

[dense ermine]

I've held off doing much of anything for several, several patches. I continue to do so until quest bugs and progress breaking issues are completely and permanently solved. Started with the achievement issue.

[barren sage]

Okay so I'm lucky I just tried to do a quest

[thorn shoal]

Might be a long time, bug list is going up and up, not down

[polar oracle]

I mean considering the Switch launch is just around the corner i'd suggest you take an early xmas vacation from the game. That's a crapstorm waiting to happen

[thorn shoal]

Players should unionize too

[dense ermine]

And miss all the fun? Never.

[thorn shoal]

Every time I stop playing I run out of crops to fill my preservers and worm farms.

[brisk spruce]

I've barely played for two months but I stay up to date on the game so that I know what's wrong and what's not. this is my reality tv channel 🍿

[hollow acorn]

Talking to Zeki did not help me. So I guess, I'll wait then. I got the letters from the sisters... but then nothing happened.

[brave remnant]

Yeah the response from support was that to wait 24 hours Real Time. Going to assume this is their general response and it will actually take a hotfix/patch to correct…

[worn snow]

reactions like these make my little negativity monster so happy (she's very small and lives inside me)

[hollow acorn]

I hope so. Maybe we can both join the temple raid tomorrow.

[hardy walrus]

Is anyone else having trouble climbing on the Gales islands?

[modest merlin]

I'm sad I'm missing out on the new quest. Maybe spending 100 lucky coins will help cheer me up

[hollow acorn]

No. I cannot enter there, so since now, no problems with climbing. Sorry, could not resist. 😹

[tender copper]

I've been at work so idk if this is something someone else said but... multi-crafting broken for anyone else?

[coral coral]

Those are the same thing so I'm not sure what you mean or if there's a translation situation. 10 backpack slots for the snowballs

[gritty socket]

Known issue, it look like; pretty sure it's in the patch notes

[brisk spruce]

something climbing related with the temple is in the known issues in #📢│palia-status (I have not gotten the quest yet so I can't add more than that)

[thorn shoal]

inventory is in chests, backpack is what I take to bahari with me

[tired sphinx]

Man, more than 1hr to find a single palium node 🫠 it is more rare than ruby for me now

[hardy walrus]

I see that now, thanks!

[thick wagon]

how much is the froggy outfits for -0-

[spark pawn]

The 10 slots need to be free in your backpack when you receive the snowballs

[zealous pike]

same

[thorn shoal]

Now that flow wood is so easy to get you need more pal than ever.

[coral coral]

Ah i see, they tend to call slots in home storage "storage"

[obtuse tangle]

it makes you happy that people are upset about a change? :/

[zealous pike]

schadenfreude is taking joy in others pain

[obtuse tangle]

thats a lil wild

[brisk spruce]

I read that as it makes eyore feel validated to not have her complaints brushed off as an overreaction...

[shrewd owl]

True, plus you press I for Inventory.

[serene arch]

question: how long will the gale bundle be discounted for? or is it forever discounted?

[serene barn]

Sorry if this question has been asked too many times but I cannot find the answer because my discord is lagging. If I received a letter from both Caleri and Elouisa and went to them the quest for the temple and nothing happened. Am I bugged and need to submit a ticket or am I SOL?

[little rune]

I ran around North and South Bahari for an hour - found a total of 4 palium nodes. That's all. Why make the spawn rate faster and then make it rarer and more difficult to find?? This is a huge impediment to those that have limited play time. I'm so frustrated with this change.

[zealous pike]

is tree spawn rate slower? i usually kill all trees on lighthouse and go up and down continuously if no one's around
trying to get pinecones for decoration/xmas trees

[tired sphinx]

Same, except I found only 1 node lol with all the bugs there are they thought this was something they needed to change. Don't know why. 🤷‍♂️

[coral coral]

Bugged, it's a known issue. Many of us are waiting for a fix 😦

[tender copper]

...I still can't get over the new running animation. It feels... awkward.

[honest scarab]

interesting idea, because were there really that many people complaining about the run animation that they spent time now to change it?

[vocal cargo]

I used to run like that at the end of a 10k.

[little rune]

I was just thinking that - I don't like it at all.

[tardy obsidian]

yikes on spikes, 40 flow wood

[little rune]

It was an unnecessary change. Along with nerfing the sunstone drops. Not necessary at all.

[zealous pike]

neeeeeerfs

[tired sphinx]

Tell me your secret on how to gather silk 🤣

[honest scarab]

I'm starting to try not to look at my character as it runs - not easy to do, because the run animation is so bad. It's just lumbering derpiness....

[tardy obsidian]

Just play the game, it has enough bugs

[vocal cargo]

Yeah, I wasn't a very good runner. Runner's high got me every time, in the last 1/2 km or so.

[ebon gorge]

I sent in a request but... Is there a known workaround for the new questline? I got the letters, but no quest prompts from Elouisa, Caleri or Zeki. I think i remember getting the letters a couple of patches back and a prompt about a battery - but now I am getting nothing at all from any of them. This QL is DOA for me.

[little rune]

I don't have that much, but I always catch the centipede that spawns when mining in Bahari.

[tired sphinx]

The last mf bug I threw 20 bombs at is still alive and crawls happily.

[vocal cargo]

I think the current support answer is to wait 24 hours IRL to see if it resets.

[coral coral]

No confirmed workarounds. Lots of theories. Someone got a response from Support about talking to Zeki and if nothing pops trying again in 24 IRL hours. Didn't work for me. Sounds like we're just waiting for a fix.

[gray cobalt]

anyone have the solution of the emplacement of the treasure and the hint for the temple ?

[spark pawn]

I know they are figuring it out in #🤝│quest-help

[coral coral]

Best to try #🤝│quest-help or #🤝│game-help

[gray cobalt]

thanks you guys for the response

[abstract lark]

@dense ermine this you?

[mild echo]

anyone else's textures not loading all the way on the outfits?

[coral coral]

I threw a snowball at the Crab but I think he was afk

[hollow acorn]

For me they load normally.

[spark pawn]

Are your textures set to low?

[mild echo]

im gonna check and see if setting changed

[dense ermine]

Nope. Not I, but someone else. Perhaps even a certain nerd who refuses to make chapaa pets available.

[narrow narwhal]

😦

I was there - just multitasking while waiting for flow tree cutting time

[warm sandal]

😮

[harsh fable]

I want to thank the developers for applying my language (PT-BR) in the game, it's a small thing, but make me grateful.

[sudden bay]

MAYBE they had to change the running animation because of the ability to throw snowballs? I'm reaching here guys..help me out haha

[honest scarab]

isn't the action to throw snowballs the same as throwing bug bombs?

[zealous pike]

yes

[sudden bay]

Yeah as soon as i push send I realized that

[tardy obsidian]

stormseeker medallions

[flint fox]

I'm super jazzed that the devs are allowing different characters to be involved with each temple quest. Especially for me, the resident #1 Zeki simp, to have this newest temple involve him. Thank you. I'm feasting. Eager to see what other villagers will be involved with the (presumably) last temple!

[willow prism]

ty @tardy obsidian

[honest scarab]

(I may be the only person not thrilled about the snowballs. I won't find it funny when some rando starts throwing them at me. Just a me thing)

[zealous pike]

i threw 20 balls at people
it's funny to throw them

[willow prism]

NEW PICKUP quest in the ruins/cave in between windy ruins and hideaway bluffs

[glad snow]

It's like Club Penguin all over again lol.

[wispy oak]

Do they mean the chest or the hat?

[shrewd owl]

The chest, the Plauge Doctor outfit has a simmiliar effect.

[gritty socket]

Yeah, from what I could tell, mushrooms tumble from the basket

[ocean stone]

The mushroom familiar has a little leaf glider I'ma crai

[junior pelican]

Is cooking bugged for anyone else?

[ocean stone]

In what way?

[abstract lark]

hahaha sorry it was an inside joke, wasn't expecting it to be the actual you!

[junior pelican]

Tried the rolling pin but would give me an error when hit the mark until I "H"ed out. Then when trying to using the frying pan it wont register my clicks.

[ocean stone]

Maybe he worried he threw a snowball at you

[shrewd owl]

The click to start flipping the pan, or the holding the click down to use the frying pan?

[junior pelican]

The click to flip the food.

[narrow narwhal]

lol I was more sad I missed @coral coral 's snowball

[shrewd owl]

Is it not registering you holding it down or does it never start moving?

[gritty socket]

Aww, they don't give you all a unique S6 tag for ingame?

[ocean stone]

Yeah I was like is there an imposter?!

[junior pelican]

I have to click to get it moving but then it doesnt responds to any other clicks just keeps circling

[narrow narwhal]

It's optional. I prefer to not have it.

[shrewd owl]

Odd, cause the way it works as far as I am aware you click hold it down and then release the click when the circles line up.

[bold bluff]

Who knows how long will take for the devs to fix the new temple quest, I got the letters from the sisters and nothing more...too many days waiting for fixes and now this too.

[vocal cargo]

I occasionally got the clicks not registering, back out of the station and back in always fixed it for me.

[young plank]

Hiya got a question :3 I want to make the best food focus in game yes i know it prob means alot of stuff to collect but thats fine i can do that. Is it the muujin thing with 15 steps or so?

[junior pelican]

OK let me try it again

[outer atlas]

a wild WizardCrab has appeared

[gritty socket]

Ah, fair enough. It's good to show that you are in fact a dev... but then everyone knows you're a dev, which can be problematic

[ocean stone]

[gritty socket]

I play Guild Wars 2, and sometimes you get ANet team members playing without the dev tag too

[slow olive]

Has anyone fished up any Christmas stuff yet? Or has it not been included

[narrow narwhal]

I don't mind being recognized, but I'd prefer to be recognized as who I am rather than "a random dev." That's all.

[bold bluff]

I fished for for hrs and didn't get anything

[junior pelican]

You are correct about the frying pan I was doing it incorrectly. Comes from playing too many differnt games.

[ocean stone]

As a wizard Crab then! Gotcha

[junior pelican]

The rolling pin is juct clicking when it gets to each end at the marks, correct?

[gritty socket]

Yep

[junior pelican]

Ok so thae rolling pin ones still bugging.

[sudden bay]

so I got the letters but no quest. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that is bugged?

[ocean stone]

I think some folks said it triggered for them after a bit idk

[outer atlas]

correct we are called camp 1
camp 2 are the ones that got the quest but cant climb in the temple

[ocean stone]

Camps

[abstract lark]

camp 3 is take the L I'm about to complete it

[hollow briar]

(Air temple) found this item but cant seem to reach it, do u guys think its a items we can get?

[lime sentinel]

Was wondering the same thing.

[wind ibex]

Anyone else unable to log in?

[crisp ember]

is it possible to work around the janky climbing or do i have to wait it out

[abstract lark]

tried jerking your camera to look up to prompt the key?

[hollow briar]

Im pretty sure I found the blue one too but its too high up

[sudden bay]

You must be camp-no-log-in

[noble stag]

Am I just crazy or did they change the run animation?

[gritty socket]

Oooh, you got it working? How is it?

[young plank]

They did! they mentioned it in the patch notes ❤️

[ocean stone]

I dont remember signing up for a camp

[abstract lark]

no I only collected the necessary ones for the puzzle, I was wondering if the camera trick would work

[noble stag]

I must of read over it on acident thank you I thought I was looing it

[gritty socket]

No, I more meant 'wait, you're in?' I'm in camp "can't start the quest" 😦

[sudden bay]

I never got to go to camp. This is what I get. lol

[willow prism]

what are the 7 treasures only got 5 so far

[young plank]

Great time for me to get the fire bundles done LOL

[outer atlas]

theyre the chirstmas ones.. zeki gives you a letter of the locations which you can read at his store

[willow prism]

no for the new temple/ area

[abstract lark]

didn't count but the ones I found were basic trash, 150 gold was the best, it was seeds, garlic, etc

[outer atlas]

ahh i see... would have to ask the other camps 😂

[willow prism]

not the treasure chests... its actual treasure like one was a golden chappa

[abstract lark]

ohhh no idea,|| zeki stole them!|| maybe something comes later?

[outer atlas]

i feel like since its only once per IRL day the focus amount should be higher

[ocean stone]

Must've been all the obestcol course practice

Omg ye new name lollll

[gritty socket]

I agree, but I'm just entertained by the idea you're just gulping down a raw egg from an endangered species

[pallid ferry]

Did they fix the Winter chests so that they can be fished?

[willow prism]

Where is the wine bottle treasure?

[pallid ferry]

#🤝│game-help

[willow prism]

nah this seems like right placeto ask

[pallid ferry]

The Gale Temple not being locked behind any quests feels weird. Why wouldn’t they make the temples progression/story locked?

[gritty socket]

I think the idea is that you can do them in any order if you want

Which will make more sense when we have all of them

[spark pawn]

We’re more sarcastic quips and general dysfunction

[umbral marsh]

najuma has become one with the ground 😂

[pallid ferry]

I suppose. I just assumed that for longevity sake they’d make us slow down and do them one by one, Zelda style.

[ocean stone]

Oh no Hodari look out you're losing her

[lyric night]

we know how to obtain every listed furniture piece, they are found in the rummage pile, the chests with zekis hints, quest and at the store the only things missing are snowballs and the wallpapers, think they just canceled the fishing part to obtain anything

[willow prism]

quip m nuts

[pallid ferry]

Well that’s disappointing. The chests are really pretty. I was going to turn them around to hide the bow.

[umbral marsh]

Im getting so many glitches today 😂 Nai'o please get down

[crisp ember]

how do i get back to the temple where is it on the bahari map

[lyric night]

windy ruins

[crisp ember]

thanks so much

[willow prism]

oooooh gold star cloudminnow bussin bussin

[hasty mist]

Can the new temple stuff be done without getting the quest from Caleri/Elouisa? (for those of us who are stuck without the questi dialogue)

[modest merlin]

The quest randomly showed up as i left my plot!

I've been waiting since the patch went live

[coral coral]

Negative. You could prepare for the bundles I guess?

[hasty mist]

Thats a good idea, Capy

[coral coral]

What did you do before? Did you till? Ugh so many theories about what triggers this 😂

[spark pawn]

Yes I have the same questions! Give us a play by play

[old bough]

Does anyone know how to solve this issue, have not been able to play palia for days

[limpid sequoia]

What's this??

[ocean stone]

It's a known bug. It's okay to ignore

[ocean stone]

Hiya! Take a look here where someone gives some suggestions: #💻│tech-help message

[proud osprey]

I got that same error. Uninstalled and then reinstalled it. Works fine now 🙂

[warm python]

Do I... Do I try to log in again

[ocean stone]

Im also tempted and worried lolol

[civic valve]

anyone else fully not able to climb anything in the new temple?

[sour stump]

yup. can climb on the middle island but all the rest i cant climb, im just slowly falling down from the walls

[brave remnant]

What were you doing on your plot, before you left and the quest triggered?!?

[surreal ermine]

is anyone else having problems visiting friend's houses or trying to get onto the same server as them? been like this since second-to-last update

[modest merlin]

Nothing of note that I recall. I had just started building a new fireplace.

I did have a support ticket submitted for this, so it's possible that they did something on the backend to fix it.

[coral coral]

Known issue for people trying to meet up from different server regions (NA, EU, APAC, etcm)

[surreal ermine]

oh they know already? okay great thanks lol

[coral coral]

Not the support ticket for sure but okay interesting, seems just random then 😩 thanks for sharing

[sour stump]

what Capy said. pretty much the same bug they fixed in the 0.174 patch came back in the 0.175 patch xD

[surreal ermine]

omg even the running animations different

[hasty mist]

I think the prices for room blueprints increased. Large rooms were in the 20k range. Now they are 23k. Small rooms were 9.somethingK and now are 10.5k

[lime sentinel]

Don't they increase each time you buy one?

[hasty mist]

Hmm Im not sure, but I could have sworn they were sitting in those previous ranges for my past few purchases.

[lyric night]

they do, yes

[warm python]

Anyone who's actually able to get on the game (my own failed to update again), how's palium spawning/farming looking like with the change?

[haughty tendon]

It's nerfed bad

[coral coral]

Putting it politely, I do not like the changes

[scarlet hazel]

it should be buffed cause now any iron nodes can spawn pallium but idk. it might spawn even slower now and now its all over

[lyric night]

I just randomly ran into 4 large nodes, but the change is weird and was definetly not needed at all

[worn snow]

cant believe i missed wizardcrab himself

[vocal cargo]

It depends on how the spawns are weighted.

[coral coral]

Yes, it appears they went back to much slower respawn timers for nodes. Took around 8-10 minutes to get respawns in the usual palium spots.

[warm python]

Oh, that's....painful

[haughty tendon]

We were having so much fun as a community playing pal pong. Well, now that's gone

I can't even find palium in there usual spots

[dense ermine]

Didn't they change it to spawn anywhere iron nodes could spawn?

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. youd think that'd make it plentiful but ig not

[brave remnant]

I did a ticket and my response was to wait 24 hours in Real Time and try zeki underground again then…. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[haughty tendon]

Yes, but I found very little, same with some friends of mine. We found actotale of 27 nuggets to 179 iron in an hour

[dense ermine]

Means everyone is still running routes instead of mining everything in sight. Once people adjust and break away from routes it'll be better or at least comparable. Glad spawn camping and running routes is dead.

[coral coral]

They should've made the change without increasing respawn timers.

[gritty socket]

Yeah, it's going to take a bit for the extent of these changes to shake out

[haughty tendon]

Well I'm glad your happy. But, we had a community going of people gathering together having fun, and we made a point to share and try to bring in anyone that wanted to run around mining palium

[spark pawn]

I wish they would have left the old pal spawn locations but also add the chance for random irons ones to be pal.

[dense ermine]

Or the reports are correct and they made a change the community wanted, but also made it terrible seemingly out of spite. For example, see the cash shop coins not leaving leftover amounts coupled with "lolno, pets are not happening the way you guys wanted and hoped for. Sorry, not yours." WizardCrab is truly the bane of our existence.

[dusk bay]

finding the last treasure in the temple of gales nearly had me losing hair

[gritty socket]

I mean, I'm pretty sure that any node has a chance to be either stone, iron, or palium

[haughty tendon]

@dense ermine naw, we had so many people in the community joining and having fun. Looks like the small majority of players who didn't like it got what they wanted.

[gritty socket]

Hey now, be nice. He was in here a bit ago

[spark pawn]

It does now but I wish the way pal used to spawn in those specific locations was still happening in addition to any nodes having a chance to spawn stone, iron, pal

[dense ermine]

I MISSED HIM?

[haughty tendon]

Anyway. Good luck all, bye bye Palia

[warm python]

YOU DID LMFAO by like an hour

[gritty socket]

I mean, those still weren't guaranteed spawns or anything

[dense ermine]

Bruh...