#š¬āpalia-discussions
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I won't lie it took me a little bit to learn ins and out but it's nothing as hard as MMOs I've played for years and free right now doesn't hurt
Everyday there is a spot total 5 for Rummage Pile, it takes 2 mins to fast run to these locations, after 1st week you know the track (Not aimed at you @near hinge
LOL, no problem. I
I'm heading off, need to sleep. It was vety nice talking to you @celest flax
No worries mate sleep well my friend
So tired now spelling went straight out the door š
I'm in the U.S. in the Carolinas
Ah and wow ok sleep well
Add me as as friend if you wish
Done
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I aint Grumpy lol
Good to know LOL
Rest well matey
Accepted friend, I will try
Was either Dropbear or Grumpy pmsl
Yes the graphic on her relationship page is outdated (same thing with Najuma 4, they have a couple discrepancies to clean up)
the only pickup lone i will ever use ever again š
im dying over here, this game has a mission against me and it's doing an amazing job
itdoesntevensay impekible DDDDDDx 
I dunno your taste but
Something low key: white or pale yellows
Something more flashy: purple, black
Something homey: orange, muted greens
I just used the star wallpaper on every single wall and the waves on the ceiling because no sense of good taste will stop me from doing what i want
you can put something on the ceiling? tried wall and floor tiles and couldn't
Does Subira exit her room ?
Not the ceiling, ceiling, but the triangle part of the house thats closest to the ceiling, registers as a different part of the wall.
you almost gave me hope, don't do that
Hope is great tho. Good pain. Sometimes. (Cries in rainbow tip)
I did it with plain red. Looked good somehow with the roof color.
i liked and chose the orangeish one and the pale yellow one, but i also used the others as well on several sides of my complex
i just wish we could change the stone. i also did red but i wish i could get more of a brick shape for the stone foundation part
yes i'm also interested in changing the wooden structure to stone or something
i think we did the same house layout too lol
One day ill take a pic of my abomination, im so proud of it. Itās absolutely bad.
Why is my character bending with the camera
what locations? i tried googling but they dont say
if only you could change roof color to match 
They make house roof blue and gazebo roof brick red, with no way to change them 
She does not
That's a pity, I would love to see her going around and do some magic.
She'll probably get more of a routine later, I'd imagine
she's probably not part of kilima and was introduced early
I hope they add more pathing in general. Tamala shouldn't be standing around npwhere for hours, Einar should visit the village and perhaps even go to the western docks to fish some.
Just more movement in general.
Yes that is great suggestion to add immersivity to the game 
I love the way Einar walks
all for him walking around more
My pickaxe holding on for dear life after I found myself on an empty server where every palium spawn spot had a 100% palium respawn rate.. No rocks ever.
holy mother of palium
Righttt?
If you ever find yourself on an empty Bahari server, milk it! Haha

I hate that he doesnāt walk around as much anymore⦠man talks about going to the inn a lot and all the way to the farm but he never does it in game
would he fit through the inn door?
Yeah if he crouches
bro, crouching einar waddling to get through the door
"How do you do, fellow humans?"
Yeah
I'm not jealous. YOU'RE JEALOUS!
Running spaghetti code in Palia. Space !!! Space !! I'm in Space ! Finally !! The Palian final frontier !
How come this thing has stars but the literal sky doesnāt
What is wrong with this game
Star in the Sky DLC for only $9.99
it's too heckin BRIGHT
I just ran around the bahari bay tower and fell through the ground
10/10
i used dark green, it gave it a nice foresty comfy feel and blended nicely to the trees so my house doesnt stand out TOO much
FOUR amethyst lmao, thanks for confirming they stealth nerfed it to death. 2 weeks ago I was geting 4 per 100 ore.
Known bug. Have reported it; S6 then says it's fixed; I drop through there again and report it; rinse and repeat.
Haha oh they absolutely did. The drop rate is abysmal
Can we move the nodes away from the sewer entrance? Half the time when I go to collect what I've hit, I end up zoning. 
Also, uncomfortable question, but... right clicking in chat crashes Unreal. If I try to report an abusive player I get crashed almost every time and because I don't log my gameplay, I often lose the name of the person I'm trying to report/block/whatever (sometimes it's Kudos, but my concern in the blocking/report function). I didn't see anything about this in the Dev Update, does anyone know if this is a priority fix for them?
Known issue. Mentioned in #š¢āpalia-status
you can also report them from the friends list menu. under your friends & community members it lists the other people on the server, find the "..." on the person's name and report from there so that you don't have to worry about losing their name while we wait for them to fix it
We still can't make purchases in the store? 
It's odd, because it seems to be fixed for some, but not for others? Hopefully they get it fixed in the next patch or so, because a lot of folks are going to be coming into some extra money soon. I was even considering buying a few winter outfits
I wanted to redo my wardrobe T^T
I think mine works now but Iām gonna hold out for patch day
Hey everybody, new here! Was wondering where people shared the locations of the daily piles
Thank you!
Yeah sometimes the in-game info for quests is below minimal.
What is the best way to level up hunting fast? I have the best bow and level 19 now.
So I kinda like the Palia soundtrack. If I wanted to buy it and/or download it, where would I look? I'm not interested in dealing with a streaming service for music. Or anything.
I think it's on iTunes. I have been listening to it on Spotify, but you said no streaming services
Why are there so many apple cake parties now? It is better than the celebration cake?
Apple cake is just celebration cake made with apples (not blueberries)
Oh, I have done cake parties before with apples and they still just called it celebration cakes. Thanks!
Np! I think the terms used in discord just shifted over time
A suggestion for future. We need a fish Market where we could sell our catches from 6AM to 10AM. š”
Managed by Einar
Hiii! I'm new to Palia and was wondering if there is any news on Palia being brought to the Switch? I know it's coming this winter but I'm scared it's going to be delayed
(I hope this is the right section)
Still holiday 2023
That's fair
I just really want to get my mum to get into it! But she only has the switch
Yeah they didnt adjust the release date so hopefully they are still on track and just have Nintendo do the announcement or something
Gonna be a rough launch though with all the bugs/performance issues I would guess
Perhaps! But I mean, when do Nintendo games launch without a plethora of bugs and performance issues 
Only thing I'm concerned about is mum has a Switch Lite, I feel like that will really struggle. The normal switches should be fine, my deck runs is perfectly fine at least.. I know it's a bit more powerful but it seems to already be really good for handheld 
Is there a Switch release date available yet???
Bud just read a few messages up.
Thank youā¤
it's been a week and I havent gotten any furnishing from the rummage piles. I think the rates are rather ridiculous and it's making not want to play the game š¦
recipe are at a ~0.6% chance, they are meant to be obtained on the long run
thats the thing, I dont think they should resort to rng for making content last longer.
the whole game is rng based 
Honestly I would be worried about the Switch release but the track record speaks for itself - it will be a freaking mess at launch and likely for a long time after. I doubt the user experience would be equal to that of PC, and the PC experience is marked by constant bugs that have gone unfixed.
well long term daily gathering, just pray they dont add more to it cause i only got 1 so far and that still feels lucky to me š at some point if you want one thing from zeki balls that will be horrible rng based
lol wut... she's not even IN her room yet. And what's with the first dialog option lol
@crisp rain
i dont see that, i see this
you're not in the mirror
oh whats mirror then
It can only be the mirror in Jels shop
OHHH i was in wardrobe, i didnt know u could acess the mirror-
Careful Alice, don't fall through.
this is the one
bro thats im not kidding thats me right there wth
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roy c zayne
People!! I wanna know what you think... ĀæWould you like seeing the romanceable characters moving into our houses (Like in SV for example), seeing them around our plot or having more romantic interactions? Also, Āæwould you like being able to have a real pet that you can interact with? Our own little plumehound or something similar ā¤ļø
yeaaah i was thinking that! it would be nice if they come visit your plots and give you gifts or have some cute interactions
yes ā¤ļø or if they asked to stay around for a bit
i'd love being able to hug or kiss them haha
I call him, Pondy McPond Face.
Is it still more profitable to feed celebration cakes to glow worms than to just sell the cakes?
You can make more money using the machine-hour doing something else.
That's fair. I hope you submitted feedback, I did. But it seems like it's just gonna be one of those kind of games.
!feedback - in case anyone sees that comment and wants to know where to go to do it
Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?
- To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
- To discuss feedback with other players: #š¦āissues-discussions
- To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
- For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com
Move in, nah (as I'm dating every romanceable villager for the future and would dislike if we had to pick).
Visit and be cute? Yes. More pets? Definitely 
mmos usually always have rng elements when it comes to content drops. that's just the type of game you're playing.
Rng elements overall are fine. It's the daily time limit I have the issue with. Other MMOs I play, you can run as many raid parties as you want for a drop.
and those drops often have a daily or weekly limit, such as final fantasy fourteen. you can only get one loot drop chance per week on your first clear.
Wym by time limit
I can only check a rummage pile once a day
a rummage pile once per day is more in line with a game like animal crossing, except you can't bypass the time limit by ganking your systems clock.
maybe the ones you wore pins for?
Ah, timegating. Yeah, I don't think I've ever met a timegate I enjoyed. I know they can be done in ways that feel organic though, and I hope they can find that balance here.
Aah yeah. It is very annoying. As well as the Kitsune gifts. And 90 percent of the time theyāre material stuff that I donāt need
Depends on the game. Old School Runescape doesn't really have anything like that for example.
old school runscape is timegated by how many hours in a day there are and the amount of hours you can grind. it doesn't need timegating because it takes a lot of time to get anything done anyway
And that's what I'd prefer 
there's already elements like that in the game, it's called levelling.
As hilarious as the implication is that you specifically follow a single Chapaa around and rob him of his precious rocks x5 once a day, it does feel pretty weird.
Leveling honestly means nothing in Palia tbh
And what do we get for leveling past 25 or I guess 50 for the trophy. I'm level like 900 something
Yeah, lots of grinding for things that are meh.
having everything be the same system is boring and tedious and doesn't respect people's time. once per day means that people can find it and then log off and do something else if they decide to without feeling like they're obligated to spend every waking moment on a game
You are not the only person playing this game and the Devs have to consider everyone who plays and incorporate systems for everyone. It encourages daily play but respects people who can't afford to give a huge chunk of time.
I don't really feel like my time is respected personally. Having to log on every day to do dailies versus setting aside some time on the weekend to do a bunch of activity is what I prefer. It's a preference. We can all submit feedback and the devs can choose what to do
I mean regardless youāre gonna miss out on stuff.
S6 definitely doesn't respect players time or the players, in general.
games in general are made to pass time so yes
I play games to enjoy myself, not pass time needlessly.
honestly I think having daily activities is fine and I'm sure they'll add other ways to get items the more time goes on. we can't expect them to add everything all at once or it'll never finish coming out due to feature creep.
You know, this is similar to discussions I've seen regarding dailies in other games and the solution some companies went for is weeklies instead. So you could either rummage 7 times a week total or once a day for 7 days and the only difference would be the player being able to manage their time at a more relaxed pace.
If Iām playing stuff to pass the time Iām playing other games that have like quick rounds of stuff, more PvP style. Palia is one of the games I play when I do have a good chunk of time.
this is a good idea. you get a rummage "charge" once per day and can spend it that day or use them all at once if you have them saved up
Thing is thereās nothing really driving me to play. The prizes in the rummage piles and Kitsune rock are lackluster. Knowing I can just pick up where I am in fishing, decorating, etc at any time makes me push back on logging in more. Theres nothing really stimulating the brain atm.
I play palia to turn my brain off so I guess we play for different reasons. I like doing mindless activities for the sake of the mindlessness
Yeah, could be a good comprimise since Palia already has weeklies in the skill medals/gifting situation.
I play to play, I guess. Like I havenāt been spending as much time on Palia as I used to because of the holiday events going on on my other games. The minigames, quests, etc.
Yeah, it's different reasons. It's tough because Palia attracted both crowds by being a "cozy MMO." I like satisfying repeatable game loops that I could play endlessly if I wanted. But that's okay. Palia isn't a main squeeze MMO even if I wanted it to be one.
Yeah until they add in more mmo aspects itās more of an open world single player game.
I just drop in for a couple hours every patch 
I don't really care about questing in palia right now because there's not much for me to really do once I'm done with them. I'm waiting until there's more there for me to really invest. Right now I just like doing silly little repetitive tasks to do repetitive tasks. I like grinding but I also don't mind the daily activities because they'll still be there even if I don't get them right away. I'm in no rush to do everything right now when I know there's nothing else to do afterwards.
I don't really think it's timegating content for the same of timegating but rather a slow implementation of features. We are still in beta. I also don't think this game is ready to even release in switch with how many performance issues we have. I know they're being pushed to by their investors however.
Think thatās a topic to bring up as well; nothing to do while waiting. In other games we have multiplayer minigames or race with our mounts and fashion shows and what not. Once youāre at the end of the quests here itās either grind for money and\decorate until next patch comes out.
MMOs are also games that are live service and typically try to aim for around 5-10 years of service. They're incredibly long development cycles and their content and qol isn't all at once. It took years for FFXIV to get where it is now for example and they're still working on qol. It's one of those things where you sort of have to be patient
MMOs when they first release are typically very bare bones and get more content bolted on with updates and expansions. That's one of the key aspects of the genre.
Final Fantasy has been out for over a decade though.
ooh true, i'm just dating reth and i'm not gonna date anyone else so i wasn't thinking of that really haha
It has, yes, and when 1.0 and a realm reborn first game out it had very little to do. Which is my point compass.
They still had things you could do though or entertain yourself with like cosmetics and what not.
Yeah one of my favorite things about Palia is that it's poly-friendly. Devs have already said they don't have plans for NPCs to move in but things could change of course
You would be surprised at just how little content the initial base game of a realm reborn actually had. Maps and a lot of the stuff actually came way later.
And I get the very beginning but in truth, Palia has been in the works for over 3? If not 4 years now. Itās been talked about already but for the funding and people they have, they are incredibly behind
making them move in would be a bit chaotic i think, but visits would be very nice!
MMOs can take ten years to be developed before ever being released. They're called massive multiplayer games for a reason
This isnāt massive
Which is another topic that gets talked about a lot
it's still an mmo, it's the same principle. massive doesn't refer to just the amount of people but the scale of the project itself. and scale isn't just visual and world size but everything involved
Mmo definitely refers to the people
A lot of my annoyances would be fixed if Palia stopped capping everything (but skill levels I guess š) but they're super worried about people "getting ahead" or breaking things
I'm very well versed in mmo history because it's a special interest of mine, it's probably for the best you don't discuss semantics of what mmo means with me. And I don't mean that to be rude.
Idk how that wouldnāt be rude š
I'm autistic so I don't know how my tone is perceived and I get worried about it a lot
One game having no content isn't an excuse for another game to have no content.
zero you have missed my point entirely about how I'm explaining what kind of game and development framework palia is using, but thank you for playing
Especially with the people and funding they have.
I'm specifically talking about palia from a development mindset
You have to understand the gist of how mmo games (and mmo-like games) are developed to understand why palia is in the current place it is now. I am not saying people cannot be discontent with it but I am trying to give an explanation as to why.
What do you call the framework where the game tosses $50 million dollars over 5 years and then, while still in alpha development, goes into closed beta for 1 week (half of which the servers are down for) then slaps on the open beta sticker (still with core systems under development)?
have you seen the rest of the gaming industry zero because that's a standard
No, it isn't LuL You don't have games going into open beta with core systems not functioning.
not to mention that you have to take into consideration what that money is actually going towards. Engine development, server costs, asset creation, program subscriptions, electricity, office bills, employee wages

It definitely is not š
Sorry for ping
Multiplayer online games are expensive because you have to have data centers to host all the people who are playing your game. You have to pay for the bandwidth.
I think many people understand why and are trying to provide suggestions for how things could be better. E.g. removing or increasing renown or cash caps, having a rummage pile minigame instead of a time gate. If people want it to be mindless, they could play it once a day and others could play it until they're satisfied.
and to pay for everything, an mmo needs to keep its players engaged to keep revenue flowing. palia doesnt really have anything to keep it going in the long run once almost everyone reaches the end game
combined w/ the fact the skins are overpriced, which is likely hurting them (at a more industry standard price more people would buy them, and more often), that's an issue
They could start by fixing core system bugs that have existed for over 4 months.
And they need money to pay their employees who spend the time to fix those bugs
and in some countries its practically paying like, 3 whole bills
I agree. If I wanted to play mindlessly thereās sims and others. Mindless playing shouldnāt be the goal atm. Thatās a big competition with the other games that are more ahead and developed aha
S6 didn't buy or fill a data center.
no but they have to pay for the server space that they use for the game to even be online. ???
I think everyone understands that making online games costs money
Yes and they do that by getting players to enjoy the game enough to spend money on it. That isn't happening.

I didn't ask what they spent $50 million on
thank you for saving me from scrolling up endlessly, I was confused
anyone having a ton of issues trying to play the game through epic because of this fortnite event i cant even get into epic anymore
Is this not asking? I'm confused
if you can find where your install folder is, you can still launch the game through the normal launcher. they don't use Epic DRM or anything so it will launch fine even if Epic isn't working
I saw a few others. They fixed it by opening the game through the launcher
No
oooo thats great to know thanks so much!
no problem, enjoy 

but you literally asked a question here. I'm getting a migraine from this lmao.
a question, yes, but not about what the money was spent on
I didn't ask what they spent $50 million on
I think you misread it is all
no I didn't misread, I answered what the money was spent on because the question itself felt like it didn't understand that game development is expensive.
i feel like they could have put the 50 million into hiring or at least getting accessability things up and running so it isnt the mess it is right now
It seems more like they are reading what they want to read.
I don't think that's a correct assumption - I think Zero understands
The person who literally wrote the message is telling you you misunderstood <_<
s6 has over 100 employees so they very much did spend money on paying people/hiring them
zero asked what the framework is called when u spend 50m dollars in 5 years and then say ur open beta when u still need to be in closed beta or even alpha. not what they used that 50m on
it's called a framework
paraphrasing to hopefully make it more clear ; --- ;
yeah but with how accessability is right now, and how we had to fight tooth and nail to get the accessability channel back, im thinking they arent focusing on it, let alone even glancing at it cause it feels like were just talking to a void still, even with the recent blog post

And I can say with a fact that there are many games that start with much, much less people and money than that. 50 million is just for the framework and if they did use it all just for framework, well now we know what went wrong lol
I find that thereās plenty to do but I also break my time up with playing other games too so Iām not exhausting all of the content palia has to offer thus far. Iāve finished the main story quests so far but there are a bunch of hidden quests I can pick up at any time. I havenāt rushed completing all of the friendships and relationship stages, there are a tonne of housing items I donāt have yet either by crafting, black market or from skill coins.. Iāve only just last night finished expanding my house to be 20 rooms and now have to go through and furnish and arrange it all and thatās just on my first plot. I havenāt purchased the others yet.
Even still.. I think thereās always a task to be done in palia if you have the motivation to do it.. and there will be more again come the next update.
....? then why are u insisting that zero asked the question of "what they spent the money on" when you understood from the getgo u didnt answer their question and decided to answer a different one?
its just left a very sour taste in my mouth and has me side eyeing s6 concerning accessabilty with the 2 options we have rn
Pretty sure it was a rhetoric.
and those games aren't MMOs. Even pantheon, an indie mmo, had to crowd fund millions in order to even develop the project.
Plenty to do but no compelling reward to do it, in my opinion.
But with the progress and paste theyāre going at, at some point you are going to find yourself with less and less to do
because they were misunderstanding what I was saying when they initially responded to be to begin with
yeah development is just, really slow rn. probably trying to take their time or held down by a lotta bugs
All I can assume is they had an awesome weeks long party.
friendly reminder to stay hydrated 
they were arguing a different point entirely with me that I was never talking about. they're complaining about the game from a consumer standpoint and I was never arguing with them about their discontent I was explaining the development and giving an explanation for why the game is in the state it's in
They are MMOs aha. You donāt need as much as 50m to start out for an mmo. š
So you engage and tried to steer an existing conversation to what you wanted to talk about?

I never steered anything away I was giving context?????
I missed the beginning of the conversation but all I keep seeing is people bringing up concerns and the concerns being dismissed with base level game development info along with the assumption taht people don't know it
This is definitely discouraging, for sure. I was excited for Palia because it advertised itself as inclusive and relaxed. So here we are a couple of years in with quite a lot underdeveloped and quite a few accessibility things missing (not to mention basic QoL like shutting the chat off, for instance), so I can understand why people are feeling frustrated and a bit worried about the future of this project.
On the flippy, I can also see how some might feel they have to defend Palia. Really, that's fine too, we just have to remember to stay on the topic and not start on each other. Whether you're defending Palia as it is or wishing it was better, we're all in the same pro-Palia froggy bucket and wanting it to be good.
On the flippy aheheh
Yeah, it is almost as if this turned into #š¬āpalia-general
yeah. some of the defenders go to the extreme tho and its sometimes bizarre
I was never dismissing anyone with what I said and I've never defended palia. I don't particularly agree with where the game is at now either.
i cant tell where these convos are going rn tbh
I've been incredibly outspoken about bad design and marketing choices they've made including the way they run the premium store. I was explaining and giving context to why the game is in a specific state to give people more understanding as to why they might be discontent with the game
Regardless of your intent, that's the impact
???? You weren't even here at the beginning of the discussion
Why would that matter? They can read it.
i have to say, i dont think the devs have bad intentions or anything, or like r trying to scam us, or necessarily mishandled money, or whatever. i mean, they could be, and they could have, and all of that, but i dont think i have to make those assumptions ab the character of the devs to say the game is lacking rn.
i'm disappointed in a few things, but mostly i'm disappointed with lack of effort on the accessibility front. palia said that from the start it wanted to be inclusive, and you truly cannot be inclusive without being accessible. i understand that it's a journey, ideally, imo, we would've started there initially but like. we've had breadcrumbs from s6 on this front and it really is starting to seem like no one cares :// idk
<_< so people arent allowed to join in to the discussion? o.o
I'm absolutely in the boat of wanting palia to succeed, but at the same time incredibly worried about how it's being managed.
i don't care if people join but at least read up rather than assuming. I also agree that accessibility is lacking.
Some of us have just been watching with our popcorn.
the funny thing ab that is that u assumed they hadnt read up š
I'm not assuming, I read you using dismissive phrases like 'thanks for playing' and continually assuming that because people don't agree with you, they don't understand anything
Someone literally said they didn't bother to read up earlier Eyore
I am just a toothpaste-colored name in a sea of 300,000 people, but I care about it a lot. Accessibility helps everyone, not just those with difficulties, and I will gladly go around with a wooden spoon and a dented pot if it helps Palia git r done. 
Definitely. I still love the game but haven't played in almost 2 months due to "my" bugs. The development is still being rushed and it is going to have bad consequences.
all this heat in December
I wasn't being dismissive of them I was saying they were misunderstanding what I was talking about to begin with and asked about something I wasn't even talking about.
exactly how i feel! tbh it feels like s6 is lying at this point cause the two accessability options in the game rn just dont do anything for the most part. s6 is still pretty quite and giving fake positive corporate speak about it and its just, really uncomofortable. i HOPE there are people at s6 that care or a majority do and are fighting with us to get accessability into the game a lot more.
im really hoping for a chatbox slider or something cause its really tiny and its probably a request from day one i bet.
whatever this has turned into a discussion of he said she said rather than what it was initially about so I'm going to cut that discussion there and move on. I hope everyone has a great timezone.
Good plans. Everyone go get water :D
This be it here
The whole discussion started with people wanting to leave feedback for the game, so we definitely all just want it to succeed even if we have different opinions on what that looks like 
If you ever feel useless, just remember that this exists.
yeah, like again im not quick to say "these people are lying and scamming us and blah blah blah" but like.... where was the accessibility stuff? it just starts feeling like corporate dribble
It definitely feels like shareholders have a HEAVY hand in it all
This was my entire point š„¹
whoever the shareholders are, they feel money hungry and theyre gonna drag the entire studio and game down with them
Oh chat options, my beloved! Font sizes, manual channel color assignment, and even being able to shut chat off would do so much for so many. And a minimap, but that's a whole other bag of beans.
Palia will be a successful game, just needs more time (and maybe some more investment). Bugs and missing features are unfortunate, and it will take time to get them in order. Not gonna remind you that it's still beta, and one might argue that it shouldn't have been released to public just yet, but we don't know all the circumstances.
I don't like how large the friends menu is, or that even when we block people they're still technically following us.
minimap ššššš
please im so directionally impaired LOL
literally cant rven play minecraft without a minimap anymore
Palians across the server being told to head southwest from 'that area with the weird rock', spinning in a circle, then sitting down and crying. 
or how we cant resize the UI at all. thats a feature so many games have right out the door š
didnt they say they were going to make one of those graph thingies with the numbers and letters? that wld b nice
This is just a wild guess/speculation on my part, but, between the glassdoor reviews talking about poor management pretty consistently + beta's incredibly rushed release, it almost feels like the investors were tired of waiting on game development and pushed for open beta release so they could start making returns on their investment.
Honestly, thank god for flares in those situations. Reminds me I need to make some
Definitely, sink or swim
coordinates?
yeah but it was like in chunks
there are like 7 different third party coordinate systems atm and it's confusing, I would like an official one instead!
Map grid?
a lot of investors don't realize just how long and tedious mmo game development really is, they have no first hand experience in game development and AAA games often work under crunch. Investors often want immediate returns on their investments which means games get released before they're ready.
Sounds like a jobā¦. For the Compass

I'm having pre-flare flashbacks
glad we have them now
This is why youre a wise guy. We needed a compass.
Plot twist my cardinal direction irl are absolute trash lol
why is the mindcraft server im playing on still down š¦
We'll pretend you said the opposite.
We need a map that shows the locations of other players. That you can mouseover a dot and see the name. Click on it and have them show on the compass.
No thanks, keep that a party-only feature š
I want to add that me talking about the development of the game was specifically to make this point that the issues with the game come from the top down and the developers are often shafted and forced to work under worse conditions which leads to more bugs
Features get delayed and put on the back burner because they have to force to push the game out in a semi playable state. Code gets buggy and released unfinished and creates MORE work for the developers as a result of pressure.
I apologize for not making my point clearer but I was trying to give development context for the way things are specifically to talk about that but I didn't put it across as conscisely as I should have
You've just described my average work day.

i think they should expand the party sizes then bcos sometimes we need to track more people
I don't think people really care why the game is in the state it is, though. That isn't their problem and certainly isn't an excuse.
Party sizes should be at least 5, preferably 6. 4 seems TINY
The thing is you should care why the game is in this state because it allows you to be able to explain why you have issues with it. It arms you with the information to better criticise the actual issues at the core rather than complaining for the sake of complaining.
No
Complaints that understand where the issues come from mean that when you complain and they're passed on, the people who actually need to see it are more likely to because you understand
I vote 8.
idk how to explain that we understand any more - it seems silly to argue about that instead of discussing the issues people were on about
I would just like them to fix the server issue. They resolved it for a couple players individually, but now that thereās a ton of ppl who canāt log on, their only response seems to be āuse a VPN or wait till Tuesday night.ā
i mean, i can only speak for myself, but really did we all not already know that it's about making money?
No, when people complain, they are complaining about what they are dealing with. The devs don't listen at their own peril.
If you want the game to succeed you should care why so you understand how to voice your concerns. The Devs aren't the ones that need to hear your complaints it's the higher ups of the company.
People arent allowed to have complaints? 
I don't think giving feedback about how rng dailies could be better means I don't understand the pressure and parameters the devs are under
Not that you have to understand either x'P
I was talking about the issues with features being pushed back (accessibility) not rng dailies
Referring to the chappa pile RNG?
Accessibility too though. More important than the silly piles.
Again, no. The investors pressuring the devs doesn't change the fact that I am forced to deal with broken core systems. If the devs aren't showing management the players concerns, that is another failure on their part, not mine.
The chappa pile ājunkā is actually pretty great early game. Most of us are just so progressed that it is junk rather than useful
The developers aren't the ones that manage concerns, that's an entirely different department in the company.
Developers just write the code they're told to write from their higher ups.
i'm tired of those kinds of excuses ab accessibility. like, if you want to be able to put the "inclusive" label on your game, you're going to have to spend money on it and push for it harder. idc whose fault it is, but the only reason it's not a thing is bcos of a cheap excuse. root of all evil is greed of money, same goes for this.
Players are allowed to have complaints without dissecting and researching the hierarchy of a developer team or internal workings.
I hope that department knows that pushing out content is pointless when bugs prevent that content to be playable š š
I'm tired of them too eyore, which is why I think people should care to understand why these issues exist so they know who to yell at about them
It's really rude of you to insist no one here understands this basic info.
But do you understand why there is no accessibility? If you don't understand, you shouldn't complain. /s
I'm not saying nobody should complain
Hopefully those 8 hours on Tuesday clear up the server issues! They seem dedicated to fixing them (even trying 2 hot fixes) but it is understandably frustrating.
Yeah that 8 hour downtime seems promising. Iām looking forward to it
i just kind of dont think it matters who at s6's fault it is, or even whatever shareholders outside of s6, i think we all know there are larger forces at play. like someone else said i think it's kind of silly to assume no one else knows this
getting in touch with the higher ups in s6 or the shareholders is impossible tho, both communicating and knowing WHERE to start communicating. trying to go through the feedback forums or tagging them on twitter or such doesnt seem like it will work and who know how long it will take
i'm glad they're really taking their time with the update this time. hope there's less issues š
It is not on the players shoulders to communicate anything any type of way to "reach the right people". It's on the team to take the feedback and use it correctly.
But how do you shift the blame, then?
yeah. us players can only talk, send, and do so much in our entirety, espcially when we dont know or cant communicate outside of designated feedback formus or areas really
I don't feel like people don't understand this basic info I feel like people are misunderstanding what I'm saying and reading me as hostile when I'm not. I'm just autistic and discuss things the way I do because of that.
What further accessibility are you looking forward to? Iām glad they listened and gave us flares as a photo-audio-sensitive alternative to fireworks.
flares kind of stinky tbh. i cant see or hear them for anything
I'm autistic too, but I believe people when they tell me they understand or that I'm being dismissive
Blame shift, again. Sorry, I'm done with you.
not everyone has the same display of autism so I'm sorry I'm not the same flavour of autism as you
I'm just explaining how I'm reading the situation and how I feel I'm not trying to blame shift?
RIGHT SHIFT W RUNS
and like one ofcthe people in s6 (i dont remember who i dont have reciepts!!!!!!! AAAAAHHHHH) said that "this thing Feels Bad" is valid, good, constructive criticism for them as well, even if you cant describe it or just are complaining or whatever. part of their job is figuring out and deciphering how why where what feels bad about xyz thing and then fixing it.
RIGHT we're players. We arent being paid to sit here in our own free time to research whats going on in S6
do you see how this could come across as dismissive, though?
Wow discussion is pretty alive today š
I thought you said you were done before when explaining the same situation
I was talking about something entirely different
i would tootally be a tester for them though but only if i was getting paid paid
I even apologized for not making my point concise enough and coming across as dismissive the first time.
I appreciated the apologize half, following it with a "but" and continuing to do it makes the apology irrelevant.
or, it makes the apology seem insincere-- like you're just going ahead and continuing on what you're apologizing for anyway, why would u apologize in the first place? (is my train of thought when someone makes that kind of apology)
Anytime a sorry has a "but" after it tbh
All I said was that I was talking about something else & that I personally believe that understanding how things work allows for productive criticism. I totally understand that it isn't the consumers job to know the ins and outs and complaining in and of itself is fine.
Please just let people discuss it instead of debating whether or not you're being rude
or, "i'm sorry that you"
It's fine to not care but for me personally I do care and I'm passionate about the game and I want it to do well.
What I hear a lot from others is stuff like reading accessibility especially being able to adjust the chat box, minimap, reshading/brightness and color adjustments, and better controller support (yay that's coming).
I can go back and link multiple messages of you insisting they have to UNDERSTAND inner workings to complain.
there's a whole google doc in the accessibility channel :]
Youve expressed you understand that we're perceiving you some type of way, so best move is to just let us complain and give feedback and chatter freely.
Understanding helps with targeting critique, yes. That's just how I've been taught to go about things. But I've never said that people don't have a right to complain even without that. But I think people should care about dev stuff because Devs are suffering under the same systems that make the game bad.
speaking of reshading/brightness/color adjustments, that's one of the things that made me stop playing. When they suddenly decided to just up and make things extremely bright across the board, it strained my eyes way too much. They still haven't entirely fixed it tbh. (They need to give people the ability to adjust that on their own terms, not just make things bright because it was too dark for a few people.)
Dev stuff is dev stuff we arent privy to, you can address the devs with feedback
Players here cannot do anything about dev problems no matter how much you bring it up 
"Man I dislike xyz" Can just be that. It doesnt have to be "Well you dont understand why thats happening obviously" Like people can just complain. Maybe in the future you can ask "Do you want to talk about why xyz might be happening?" And if they say "nah Im just venting about the issue," there wont be a futher issue. And if they say nah, you can just leave them alone.
okay so this is just how it feels to me-- it feels like you're changing what you're saying (not just how you're saying it, but the actual content of what you're saying) as you're talking bcos you've changed ur opinion. which is fine, i do it too sometimes bcos i change my opinion on the fly and i have such bad emotional permanence that i literally forget that ive changed my mind lol.
but from an outside perspective it seems like straight up gaslighting-- and frankly it is essentially that, except maybe it's not purposeful on your part. can you see where i'm coming from?

Compass I am looking for the other part of your bird and thinking something is wrong with my discord
And I think we can see how it would be rude if I were to say something like
"Wow its a bummer flow tree groves got delayed"
and you jump in like
"Yeah you dont understand whats going on internally with S6 so"
Like just let people complain unless they express an interest in the bigger issue with you. It doesnt seem like anybody wanted to have that talk.
Dont need to understand whats going on behind the curtain to be bummed/annoyed/etc.
Okay so I guess this is about this post specifically but again I never mentioned anywhere that people can't complain. And I do understand why people may consider this to be dismissive but I want to quickly add that I talk with a lot of hyperbole and the "have" here isn't entirely literal. My wording was bad and I'm sorry
I struggle a lot with wording and sometimes it takes me a few tries to get things right and some of the things I did say do indeed sound kind of passive aggressive and I could've been better about it
text is also the worst on top of all that in trying to interpret according to tone/mood/etc
Also language if English isnāt someoneās first language
yeah. i use tone indicators to make myself more clearer at times
emojis are good for that
Letās all hug and continue with a healthy discussion
I am very much an activist type and I believe that targeted pressure at the right places can do a lot of change and that if enough people have the right information and know how to strike then it can move mountains. That's a belief I have and not everyone is the same.
I believe that people knowing and understanding more intimately how development works and who is responsible for what means that people can better pressure the right people and the more people that do it at the same time means that the more they have to listen.
It isn't our responsibility to make the game better but that doesn't mean we don't have a voice at all when we are their source of revenue. We can speak with our wallets and pressure with our collective voices. I apologize for parsing things as hostile or misunderstanding because I misunderstood and didn't parse others correctly.
Anyone having disconnect issues? Both my daughter and me are having issues
I think it's an ongoing issue they're trying to work on lekat, game was brought down yesterday or a few days ago for connection issues
I think there have been connection bugs since last patch :c
I didn't have any 30 minutes ago... I did get trapped at my house last night tho
yes - I'd check out #š»ātech-help but iirc the current top advice is between trying VPN and changing your DNS provider
Thanks, guys
I feel bad for the people who haven't been able to log in for multiple days 
also again I'm sorry that what I said came across this way. I'm a bit of a over explainer especially because mmo development in general is a special interest of mine. This is for real the last time I'm going to talk about this whole thing.
I need help. I've had the 'fit for a watcher' quest for days but Tish is not giving up the blueprints. The dialog is missing. or am i missing something?
Check your "all" tab not your furniture tab. They arent properly labeled for sorting ^^
Thanks!
Found it :D?
First time finding a star one I wish I could put it in a plant pot and keep it forever
I think crafting/decorating might be more fun when there's more materials in the game... I just finished my house in FFXIV and it felt so much better to collect different types of wood other than just three kinds with the majority being the one that's the most pain in the ass to get
i wish we could plant dari cloves tbh. i feel like at some point the majiri would find out how to cultivate them maybe
There are things in the real world that cannot be cultivated simply because they just wonāt survive that way. Like truffles.
i hope eventually getting flow wood, pallium, dari cloves and any other rare things are made easier. its too frusterating to farm for them for a long time
when all the pretty elegant furniture uses the same exact rare mats, it gets frustrating. like oh boy more flow wood and silk and palium, how exciting and entrancing to farm again lol
or every single best focus food needs a stinking dari clove that is annoying to find and when someone finds it, they instantly PICK IT and the timer starts. its really just- ugh. with how the end game mats are, i dont bother farming cause its just exhausting for me to try to do so
steam
we actually do grow truffles though! it's usually just an issue of either time (takes too long) or money (not enough profit in the end), not usually an issue of things being unable to be cultivated
Riiiight
with how isolated kilima village is for the most part, i imagine theyd be really good at cultivating the local fauna and herbs too. its been there for a long time at this point so them not trying doesnt make too much sense unless they gave up at some point
considering how long some things can take to cultivate... I could see giving up being a thing, but it would probably feel like an excuse tbh.
I couldn't see Chayne giving up. Dude would spend 6 years figuring out how to grow a single turnip.
how long has kilima village been around for? maybe they can use the excuse of "first successful attempt!" 
I feel like the farmers wouldnāt either
idk but delaila tells you the farm belonged to grandpa who had a deal with the then governor? i think? ????
ohh yeah you're right, I forgot about that. yeah it would definitely be a lazy excuse then lol
Floating Butterflies and Laterns that follow .
Has anyone had the lantern from the doctor outfit get stuck on their screen when someone else used it? I heard it uses the same mechanics as the Butterfly outfit how the lantern and butterflies only come out when you stand still.
I sent in a suggestion that would not only fix this issue, but just in general look cooler. The lanterns and butterflies should always be out following the player around. Which would also be cool for those with ADHD running around watching it chase the player.
like palcats?
Basically. š®
Kilima used to be a bustling trade hub at one point, and then it sort of fell into disrepair IIRC
looks at that one bridge that everyone's thinkin' about
does anyone recall if they said why? I cant remember
I don't think so? If it's in game, I'd imagine the "why" would come from either Eshe or Subira
I just sort of figured Bahari City became a bigger hub eventually
Having a tough time finding a chapaa pile .. is it near the farm?
anyone else got permanent fertiliser? XD
For me some of them stay for longer than others but they all leave at some point.
Weird bugs tonight.. esp w/ hunting.. making a hit but no loot, animals not getting hit and can walk right up to them.. also f key not always working ..
ive tilled these patches like 3-4 times since i place that fertiliser
Yeah, idk how they work really.
it's in mirror fields somewhere, I don't know which spot
there's a thread in #1143270926394335282 that has the location usually
this has been going a few days i think it was tomatoes next to peppers that did it I put a diffrent fertiliser over it and it gave me the old stuff back so maybe that will reset it
Oh, sorry, just saw the question. It is at the further right tree to the right of the fields. You'll see two trees on the map.
Right most tree.
Thank you
There's this cooking bug where your ingredient prep menu frequently puts your highlighted item back at the top seemingly whenever anyone goes near any station and interacts with anything, is that EVER getting fixed?
Can't tell you guys how much I've been cooking with friends and we get repeat ingredients because someone wants to make something, but ends up making something someone else was already preparing because the selector jumped to the top right as they hit make.
I haven't cooked with people since before the great nerfening... I'm guessing this isn't in any of their known bugs list?
Seeing as how it was present when cakes were the major money maker, I'd be surprised and disappointed if this flew under their radar.
Disappointed, yes, but honestly I...wouldn't be surprised. like no slight on you of course
It's been a bug for a long time for my friends and I.
I mean, I feel you, a lot of developers don't make the time for quality assurance anymore. I hear these guys are World of Warcraft dev veterans, so... that tracks.

QA's unfortunately pretty rough with this game; it's gonna be harder for us to be their QA once the switch release is out and hotfixes are likely gonna be slower because of that
Obligatory send in a bug report and hope they look at it, but that's as much as we can really do at this point unfortunately
You mean the bridge where I left my front teeth? Yeahā¦
Werelex deep lore. š š
- Likes Einar
- Teef
Where do you think I got him the white shiny pebble
Fertilizer stack & I think that extends duration.
there was only ever one on each as i do it each day when they vanish
Have we considered that your Palcat may be leaving the fertilizer? 
fertilizer will not be consumed if crop is getting same bonus from adjacent crop, maybe that was your case
Im trying to make Chayne my Shepp but i dont have the prompt... anyone know why? he is lvl 4
have you completed his level 4 friendship quest?
not yet but i dont even have the prompt. when i had the prompt for everyone else since i got the quest forever ago
i'll finish his quest first and go from there i guess
oh maybe it was quality fert does pepper improve quality?
it should show back up after finishing his quest. and maybe waiting a day? not sure if it's immediate, but he can't say yes until after you finish his level 4 quest anyway so check back after it.
yep that was the issue. i got it thank you~
Where do we get firework arrows???? they want that but i cant make it and i dont see where i can buy it
Zekiās gacha machine (random chance) or buy from Hassian
firework arrows are a quest reward from the quest family memento, najuma or Hodari lvl 4 is needed to get that quest, still weird that they are in the weekly wants pool bcs we get 5 and thats all
Can't you buy them from Zeki?
that are normal fireworks, firework arrows are a special type of item
Ah
Arenāt all fireworks arrows in this game??!
they are
yeah they use the same tech for shooting them but there is a difference between fireworks we can buy or get through zekis machine and the weekly wants item "firework arrow"
Hmm. Odd, should probably be fixed
Extreme home makeover 
it's like those asian tiktoks where the husband leaves on a work trip and the wife orders 500 things from aliexpress
Is it possible for a game to be release as beta on the switch?
it is but with the way the patches have been working from the start i feel it will be difficult and pretty buggy. i heard that patches and updates have to follow more strict rules on switch
s6 has not announced if the switch release will be delayed as of yet or if it is still slated for holiday 2023 release (which is now) but i feel like their silence on the matter is not promising of a 2023 release
Me too Iām worried. š
I severely doubt it's gonna be out this month. Not only do they gotta make sure the switch version is in good, not buggy as heck state, but I think they need to at the same time fix the larger bugs the PC version has been suffering for a while so the versions are at least in a similar state. And not a similarly buggy af state.
Which is kind of worrying when you see the growing list of known bugs each patch, and the bigger ones that've been around for months... I really am hoping for the best for them but they really have their work cut out for them
Surely it's time for another AMA 
oh my god I'd want to rent a movie theater to project that thread on complete with popcorn for all, after the last one 
I will accept an AMA in lieu of christmas content 
that ama will need a lot of moderation and will have a lot of unanswered questions most likely
That's what the reddit mods are for
Is this a bug? I can't open the door but I can talk to her
no
u get villagers room keys with lvl 3
No that's normal
Hole in the pavement at the lighthouse, is there any bug and issue section ?
I wish the just would let us know
ANother one i can't get out
Yes you can get out. Type / unstuck all one word in the chat in game
I tried that, but it teleported me in another location always under that pavement, after 10 tries i finally got out
thx, I only played for a few days some months ago
I use (M)ap - Return Home to escape the Lighthouse non-sustaining pavement.
Yes me too but I have two quest in Bahari so didn't want to go home and then back
Can someone sync me on a working server with bahari available?
I just opened a ticket for this exact bug
Nice š
I also thought this but was able to find some games that were labelled beta/early access
but I wish nintendo was more stern with reviewing the games they put in their library, it's starting to become like steam with all of these tiny indie games of bad quality
Would be great if we could get some communication on the matchmaking error. The only one out of our group of 5 who is currently able to log in
itās only an assumption right now but i think the extended downtime of 8 hours on tuesday is hopefully to fix all the server issues that came up recently
though i really hoped they would atleast acknowledge it and give some statement so people in the community donāt feel ignored 
i pray for that as well 
yeah, sorry to inform I begged them to make this public 5 weeks ago when it happened to me, I was able to log after 4 weeks (didn't want to use a vpn to have to log into my plot) after the last patch and I thought "alright they fixed it!" but nah they just cleared whatever cache they had of those tickets during the maintenance and didn't fix it, pretty depressing
but yeah, if you're in the US you need to VPN to EU and viceversa...
š„¹ so sad that story every time i hear it
Oh, so EU cant connect with US atm? Is this the case for in-game chat too?
hope they fix it. my whole purpose of playing is to enjoy the game with my wife who is in spain.
Romance:
I am trying to romance all the characters to level 4 to collect all their ||portraits||
will wearing a certain pin increase the romance to level up faster ?
if i have reached level 4 with someone what will happen if i stop wearing this pin ?
unequipping the pin will just trigger a dialogue nothing else, some believe that wearing their pin makes them faster to lvl their romance
Im dep clean that, use all furnitures, deco etc, and i have one empty room. Hmmm... SUS.
Iām really hoping that patch will fix the bug Iām having so I can actually leave my plot. That or reset the tutorials so I can redo them and get out of the plot. Itās been reported to S6 and they said it was forwarded to someone. But I havenāt been able to leave my plot in almost a month.
Anyone know the lactation of todays rummage pile
anyone knows how to fix slow download issue?
Better to ask in tech help lone wolf since they can help with that way better
on their website ?
No in thr discord #š»ātech-help
oh thank you
Do we know anything about the Switch release - as in, will it cross platform to our PC accounts like DDLV or will we need to start again (I kind of want a separate account on the Switch, I think...)? Will more than one household member (family Switch) be able to run the game on the same Switch ( not tandem, of course)?
so no subira till next patch ?
"This software uses third party accounts" most likely scenario
Could you ELI5 what that means? Sorry, I don't have many games on the Switch that cross platform, and I don't know the nuances. And I'm not enven through my first coffee of the morning yet. š
lol it's just what you see as a warning on games on platforms like steam or switch, it means you don't use your nintendo user you have to login like you do on PC, so you can use multiple accounts yes
Wait, i've done teh quests and i cant see Subira on the map ?
room at the inn
man i could kiss you TY
_> she ain;'t in the in
Nvm i m dumb
Has anyone heard if Palia is going to have cross platform from PC to Switch for 100% yet?
Yes you will be able to use the same account on Switch and PC
Thank you. If itās 100% then I can buy clothes.
https://palia.com/news/nintendo-switch-release if you want to see it from S6 themselves :) it's the very bottom
Tyvm
I think they are fixing her eshe quest bug this patch but she wonāt be coming out of her room until 2024z
Gee I hope she has a shower in there š
They stated the Eshe bug won't be fixed until 0.175. This Tuesday is 0.174.
Yay just got focus maxxed
weee, if you've bought writs and got exp maxed, renown waste inc \o/
Yeah was really hoping there would be other renown spending options in the coming updates. Gonna hit cap with another 150 :/
Like a shop with rare items or towards recipes for even more optimised tools or customizations.
they hadn't even considered it sadly, no idea what they'll go with but that won't be until 2024 sometime - so lots of wasted points
Guess it's time to slow down playing and leveling up Subira's friendship
Does anybody is having problems syncing server with friends? My friends are in north america and I am in europe, but i cant sync with them
yeah it's been an issue since last update
Might be for the best atm, since it seems to be linked to the bug preventing people from entering/exiting their home plot.
And maybe now it will finally be fixed
been dealing with it since October
I havenāt had any issues with it, or leaving my home plot. Or the achievements one⦠or the butterflies not fluttering. š I have some issues going to Bahari Bay though. It likes to do travel errors. The last one I tried like 5 times before it let me through.
IS KILIMA LAKE THE FISHERMAN'S LAGOON OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT PLACE
It is the lagoon with Einar, but also that whole coastal area in Kilima
its a sign
they make cats float now?!
Palcats, Masters of the sky
I would love my palcat to turn into like a flying squirrel to be my glider though xD
When I talked to Eshe today some time ago she said that humans are forbidden from leaving the valley until the order can figure out whatās going on and then we can go wander wherever we want. Does that mean after some main missions in the future we may even explore a city area?
I didnāt buy any writs, rn I am praying at the dragon shrine for an increase in the focus bar
They already announced that we will get more areas in the future but didn't tell us exactly what those places will be.
But they did hint at more populated areas (so most likely a city like Bahari City or the likes)
there seems to be hints in art ||for giant plant biomes like flowers and mushrooms||
People have been able to spot a little back area to the plot. No idea how but itās not intended xD
You can climb and glitch your way up on that wall and look over it.
There's actually a larger area and also another smaller one
Elderwoods

you don't even need to glitch to see the tree area, you can just climb. nothing stops you at least in the current version
climb where?
you can climb the cliff to the left of the wall with the crack to get a better look at the tree behind it
Jut don't jump/glide over the edge to get there. When I tried I got teleported back to the entrance of my plot.
Just curious, wondering if anyone else is getting this text block that randomly appears over NPCs stating "Neigborhood bingo coming soon" I mean id be up for some bingo not gonna lie š
Yeah I got that a couple times
Bingo would be rad. Heck, any kind of sit down table game would
yeah, if you stay on the cliff you get a pretty good view of it as is and no glitchiness (or teleporting back to the entrance) necessary
Any update on when the switch version will be released?
can you still be bugged to not be able to fish up any recipes?
what are you fishing for?
all three of them on rotation
I think you're just having bad luck, I haven't seen people massively complain about recipes yet like it was with sushi. Double check that you're fishing in the right areas maybe?
i have the wiki up every time double checking bait and locations
I swap between the suggested locations too just encase and i get nothing I have almost one of every fish at star quality so its not for lack of trying but idk maybe itll be like the void ray and just show up now ive asked if its bugged
The sushi recipe took me 169 glow worms after they fixed it. So it can take quite some time to get that.
I still havenāt gotten Sashimi but also havenāt tried fishing for it again in a while.
I think I had like 350 something when I started this week and I'm trying to get more atm 
I think ill try the look for something else method now and just get the last of the star fish i dont have
Remember the other recipes need no bait and worm as bait.
i know i had 500 normal worms the other day im down to like 120 now
cant count no bait accurately tho
is it better to aim for the nodes or avoid them?
At least for the sushi recipe I was lucky when I fished in my home pond. And got it there after just a few tries (before I kept going for bubbly spots)
ive judt been getting them if they are there but still fishing if they arent
Everyone's getting excited about neighborhood bingo but how about the real thing, Text Block? 
I checked out the tree! It looks like it leads to a dock of some sort, probably a way to port out of the area?
what is neighborhood bingo anyway?
Man what a missed opportunity to call my community Text Block šš
Nobody knows really 
oh, so a mystery? i like it! š
I mean >_> some might. But it miiight be under NDA⦠or not! Who knows indeed

neighborhood bingo is the in-game version of patch day bingo
hopefully a lot cozier 
Why do you have to wave that knowledge around Vexy itās supposed to be NDA :/
omg noo i just saw the convo about renown max
this entire time ive been playing i havent been doing anything with renown... so much wasted with my achievements i thought it was just collecting š
Itās just a joke xD Rune said nobody knows. Someone might
idonno
PSA: The shepps donāt know what bingo will be. If anyone does itās NDA. I worded that joke poorly and Iām sorry it caused any distress.
If nothing else, we should be able to use renown to buy treats.
It does have some uses currently, but it needs more, and since there's always a use for consumable and always a way of collecting renown, it seems like a sensible option.
Would love to have something to do with my renown
by treats I'm imaginging something silly like being able to throw confetti or blow bubbles. Gotta reup them bubble containers!
Dude! If I could get bubbles for collecting renown, I might actually talk to Kenyatta sometimes! 
Paintball 
When skimming through the dev blog the first time I thought the new temple was some sort of snowball fight arena and was incredibly pumped
Shadow Creature Kodama 
I've gotten the void ray, flame tongue ray, long nosed unicorn AND the sushi recipe...all before I've gotten a radiant sunfish. Thank you RNG.
Is Palia going to add romances like marry or date with romantic interactions like hug, kiss , cuddle etc ?
anyone know why they changed requests back to only stuff in inventory? It's very annoying :c
i wish, we don't know yet
Does anyone know if there's a guide or answers yet on what specific ingredients need to be starred in the muujin bahari recipe for max profit? Like with cakes?
I'm not sure. People didn't just use every star ingredient there was for cakes? I find it interesting that you could substitute any non-starred things and get more overall profit.
Yeah, for cakes, the only things that Had to be starred for max profit were the starting blueberries and the 3 apples
intresting they dont seem to despawn
been to 2 parties* that only required blue mushrooms (no star) and star wheat, corn, onion and pepper, everything else was up to the user and we had 80% star
aa thank you for this! Unless I'm mistaken though starred ingredients don't affect the rate of starred dishes. Whether or not a dish is completed as starred is entirely random, no? That's how it was for cakes, anyway. But whether or not certain ingredients are starred does affect the final price of the dish.
also I really appreciate the hosts that split the 2 free tasks with the vinegar task so that people don't end up spending 10x everybody else on vinegar! (rotate every x cookings)
I had a long look into this, discussed with many people, in the end it seems that the formula accounts the raw ingredients star/nostar and not the "prepared ingredients" for star chance (so if salsa requires 5 different ingredients and doesn't come out as star the raw ingredients before it being starred do account for the outcome)
Hmm... Interesting. The guides are wrong then?
Anyone know what Delial wants for this week? Any single in the 1-3 category?
I have found myself in an empty server and have farmed it for pallium till my pick gave out would someone like to try join it in my place before I leave?
I don't know any guides, but I suspect some ingredients have a heavier weight on starred, also since it's x2 corn and x2 wheat it's a total of x6 garden veggies
I truly believe the formula is more complicated then one would think because it really seems that grown veggies push star rating chance way higher than the other gathered/hunted ingredients
I am currently in hideaway bluffs with pallium I can no longer mine and I am happy to show you all the locations before I leave
but also starter level! we've known that from cake parties, starter should be 55+ I think?
i would luv to hop in that empty server if ur still there
yeah my name is the same as here im still in it for now
if you send me a friend rq I can invite you to it and we can do the grove together before I go
sent 
hmm i got an error message when i accepted
When is Palia coming to switch?
Rest in Palium solo server
We're still not sure, Karsen. We're hoping they make an announcement this week since holiday season 2023 is basically upon us.
Thank you. Iām have been so excited to play!
I hope it comes soon =3 And you enjoy!
What is a muujin?
A badger-wolf hybrid that likes to hide up trees is the bext explanation i can come up with xD
Itās a coward
And they can heal themselves up there. Hogging all the health potions. Jerks.
Y-youāre supposed to be able to fish up recipes?
yeah theres three you can only get by fishing and I feel like im going mad
So lucky
They should all be available to fish unless they bugged it again recently
how so? Ive been at this weeks and got none so im convinced theyre bust again but last time i thought that i ended up getting it the next day but thus far no such luck
Like lucky you got to an empty server
oh yeah i had like 500 palium and including the ones it tossed into my storage about 27K in gems
damn it i cropped the amount off when i showed my friend but i burned through two levels of my pick refusing to leave I wish I could of shared it with someone š
is silk difficult to get or am I being dumb about it 
Some bugs give you silk threads to make silk out of
Itās easy to get. You can get it from rare bugs like the purple centipede when mining in Bahari, azure stonehoppers in south Bahari, hairy millipedes in north Bahari or vampire crabs at night in the flooded fortress (just to name a few easy to farm ones)
thankyou!! I feel like I can never find any of the rare bugs so this is helpful :)
I usually get a ton when mining or I can get up to 20 vampire crabs a night using buzzy jars and being alone.
Youāll learn to spot the right bugs after a while.
The purple snails also drop it or the green glowbugs in south Bahari, the yellow butterflies in north Bahari as well or the firebreathing dragonfly around the mirror pond in Kilima
seeing all these flowers in kilima and bahari bay ... i so wish that creators allow us to collect all these flowers someday .
Sorry if I've missed it (I'm a new mum and don't have much time to keep up with games anymore š) - does anyone know when this game is out on the switch? āŗļø
We don't have a date, just holidays 2023 so far
Same. I know better, and yet I still run over to try and pick them
Coming soon "Winter Changes to Kilima". Seems like a VERY underwhelming winter.
There isn't even any snow in the background
The trees stay green and full of leaves! Hihi. It doesn't matter as long as I get my tree!!!
I know right? Was hoping for a winter wonderland
Are treasure chests (and other type of unsellable chest) just for decoration?
Is the mine the best place to get gems?
Why even add splotches of snow if youāre not gonna cover the area in snow š just donāt add any snow at all
indeed it is
I wish they had red dead kind of snow
excl. the repetitive part of the update (for some decos), it'll be another 1hr maybe 2 thing again
Imagine dynamic weather system 
They said theyād want to add smth like this in the future
eh?
So I was reading that it will have cross over pc to switch does that mean I can start where I left off on pc along with any purchase from the premium store ?
yus it's just account based, everything is stored their side for that stuff, you'll just login on the switch like you do now on your PC
@thorn temple thatās good
Like if i was thinking winter im thinking bare trees. Random times for it to snow. (could also be like rain too once its not winter) white everywhere you can see! and once you saw those piles of snow you could make a snow man! but no we get a register with some decro options like the halloween update.
They did test some weather (rain) in testing days as per a previous dev blog (linked - scroll down and you'll see a photo of said rainy day). I'd guess for now this feature is tabled while they work on general gameplay stability and switch release
https://palia.com/news/alpha-2-our-next-testing-journey
Looks just like Eastern Europe Winter to me
All my Xmas been green the last several years thanks to climate change. Who knows what Palia environmental conditions are like 
Well humanity wasnt a thing for quite a while which probably helped the climate a lot
Hello. Do we have any news about palia on Nintendo Switch? š„ŗ
Hello guys, do you know what Jina want this week ?
Thanks you
Where did you find that ?
Other than cooking, is selling jams/pickles most profitable?
And do you know what Einar want ?
https://palianpc.com/
This has everyone's weeklys
Thanks you ! š
Can you date everyone ? Or are you limited ? Because i wanna 100% the game by dating everyone
I'm romancing everyone that is romanceable. At the same time.
You can date everyone if you would like, yes
I'm also 100%ing the game because I wanna see all the neat stuff
This. Hodari has my heart, but I need to see all the things.
also here's the general gift list for NPCs if you're done with weekly gifts and still want to gift them something they like~
oops quality is meh, i'll try to find the better one :')
http://paliatracker.com has all that \o/
ooooh, even better
thankies~
This one isnāt even correct on some. Kenyatta does NOT like Jam lol. She thinks its beneath her standards. šš¤
valid :D
dunno, just stumbled upon this pic the other day
i'm still new to the game anyways
Iām new too. Only played for 2 weeks now. I just saw one of those lists yesterday that said she liked jam and wasted my time taking it to her for her to snub me š Sheās so mean sometimes.
:/

Same issue here
i'm stuck inside my plot
maintenance is for sure tomorrow right š
yus, the in game msg does state tuesday š
ok cool, the game is being very difficult today, my chat's only sometimes connected and I was stuck in my plot for a couple tries too
maybe they meant Tuesday over the pond
hey so is the update news anytime now? the one describing what the game gets
Seems like they downgraded the servers along with the layoffs.
??
tomorrow is the update
What do you mean layoffs?
Where a company decreases their workforce
I know that. But S6 is layoffs?
There was an article about industry wide layoffs. It's not that unusual (although not something I support) in practice for game companies to layoff some staff after a big rush is over. The article quoted something like 10% for s6 layoff but we have no confirmation afaik of how many people work at s6 and what types of roles were laidnoff. Same article went on to scrutinize larger scale practices in the industry giants.
I don't know their source for the s6 layoffs other than allegedly two laidnoff employees spoke with the journalist.
they've had 8 slots for hire for the last 2 months
heh no one has applied for QA xD
I knew about larger industry, but didn't know S6 was, thought they were moving full steam ahead š
Yeah 
too many staff for a first time company tbh, was inevitable
salut a vous est ce que qq peux me dire si je suis le seul a devoir réinstaller palia régulièrement je vous remerci
non, mais ce n'est pas courant
I canāt get to my house? Is this happening to anyone else? Limited time to play and I was hoping to get some goals done
the servers are struggling this morning š
en plus la je reste bloquer sur instaling palia et je ne sais pas si ca vien du serveur ou de mon PC
Hopefully they get them up soon
There is the no way home bug it seems. But also the servers are struggling a bit on/off over the last few days
Time to get into Palia via grueling tester work!
When I try to go home I get the message ābeacon not connectedā or something
So what we've been doing since earlier in the year then š
Listen, we can't spell QA without QA(schefield)
Ce sont probablement les serveurs, ils ont des problèmes aujourd'hui. Ce serait peut-être mieux tard, mais ils font une mise à jour demain et ça devrait être bien mieux après ça.
Does Palia come to the š©š°switch eshop?
merci ginger je vais essayer d'ĆŖtre patient
I just went on the plot H menu to buy a second plot and found that I have a total of 3 already. where did the other two come from??
de rien š
If you go to your switch eShop, are you able to wishlist it?
Nope :/ I canāt even search for it:(
via playing the game, if you want the gazebo you'll wanna buy 2 more anyways, so lots o plots!
ahh right. I'm just glad I could save the 50k for now š
yeah do all that last, when gold is trivial š
Oh hmmm I'm surprised. I just searched for it for US region, Switzerland, and then Denmark (wanted a comparison), and it doesn't show up on the Nintendo eShop website. Hmm
English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Simplified Chinese, Spanish, Traditional Chinese on the Ninty site, then other languages later (S6 ref)
Exactly š¦ I really wanted the game to get to the danish eshop xD
Maaaan
Womaaan

Anyone else having issues with Palia chat ATM?
i can't even connect to the game 
I'm pretty sure that this is because they don't have a set release date yet. One of the CMs said so a while ago, but i can't find the message. It may have been in the old channels
when with the servers be down for maintenance?? Says 8am Pacific time which is 16/4pm, but i was able to enter? Is it today??
I'm able to wishlist it on the US eshop 
@fossil verge tomorrow 8 am pacific
tomorrow? okay tyy
#š¢āpalia-news message The time given is your local time
why is the server down for maintenance when there's a full patch tomorrow!!???
Servers are up, maintenance is tomorrow for the patch 
they just put out the notice in-game too early/worded poorly
I really wish the "only show new announcements" button actually worked
press that big red button mave!
my screen showing https://i.postimg.cc/xdMqYxsJ/palno1.jpg

They sent the message out a day early
It will be tomorrow
cant login tho......
common issue as of the last few weeks, might work after update, might not, who knows \o/
Some people have success after trying a few times.
The message is posted early because people have been upset in the past about not being given due notice of patch downtime
Honestly i dont think people even read notices
yeah, i kept pressing login, got in now i think
Theyd only read them if they had s funny joke, theyd close it, see everyone else laughing or commenting on them, quickly go back to read the notice because they got fomo
Problem with timezones is that not everybody is on the same date or day of the week . "Tomorrow at 9AM EST" should be ok, if they can't do local time in game.
But even that gets messed up due to today being different for people, making tomorrow not precise.
everytime i pressed login, it made a beep and the message flickered, on try number 7 i got in...
the current in game notice specifies PT though, making it more confusing right now than it would be with a date because it was only 3 hours ago. making it sound like it's down right now
I would like to live in a world with universal time 
if they put the server is going down in x amount of hours then it wouldnt matter what time zone youre in?
Correct but they'd have to constantly update the message. ( I assume the message tool isn't very robust )
update every hour wouldnt be out the way, anyhows, im off playing now i can lol, fingers crossed tomorrow that Eshes quest is debugged š
This happend for my brother last night! I thought it was hilarious. I was stuck in T-pose and other guy just chillin in mid air š it was only for him tho
⨠Just another day in Palia #cozy āØ
Yeah, gunna be honest, this is about what Winter looks like where I live until like January or February.
However, I do think it's likely that they didn't have the time/resources/or desire to transform the map grass to a white snow texture and give all the trees a white snow top layer.
I'm hoping they do it, because seasons would be a big draw for this game. Especially if they can tie it into farming gameplay.
But, I'll take anything over nothing at this point
If they can't get everything done all in one go I'll take it in parts.
Is it true we don't share on here with nodes that you do you basically now? Cus I thought it was about community if so I suggest pvp
..what?
we must pvp the nodes lex!
People are saying that s6 said they don't have to share palium nodes with anyone anymore
They becoming very rude with us when we ask nicely to share
While it is very nice and friendly to share nodes, etc., we also have to remember everyone is entitled to play the game how they want to so that can be playing solo and taking the node for themselves. Sometimes people are in a rush and donāt have the time to call it out, have their cameras at a weird angle and donāt see others. Iām giving people the benefit of the doubt and assuming everyone is nice and Tish approved
Guess itās just me today. Cool
Maybe change servers?
Havenāt gotten on today. Did you look in #š»ātech-help or #š¤āgame-help
How would I change from an NA/US server to EU
Sorry. That was for the person having issues with nodes and solo players
Ah
There are many players having issues with all sorts of connection/syncing/partying, no itās not just you but there is an 8 hour maintenance tomorrow to attempt to fix some of these (we hope)
Yeah i thought it got patched last time
Sometimes one patch messes up another fix
Well the vpn worked. Great to know that now
i wonder if they even test if the patches work before sending them out cause it really feels like they dont and send it out, just hoping for the best everytime
Happens with many game companies.
Iāve lost all hope when it comes to the game working as intended
I was not the genius who thought of this this morning. Wish I could credit the right person, but I don't know who did it. I climbed up to a ft grove and right there in an opening was a honey lure! It was an ideal way to pass the time, work on my bug weekly (which I never get) and my bug w/friends weekly (also never get). I even leveled up. Pure genius!!!
Just be super careful theres other bugs that are being caused by trying to switch from na to eu and eu to na 
I hope their 8 hour maintenance window is long enough for them to solve everything they hope to 
Adding snow, by swapping out entire materials or adding a snowy look on existing materials, in Unreal Engine is actually a fairly easy task. The devs could have easily made it without consuming much of their time, which makes it a pretty odd decision not to. Maybe it's because they're based in California and not used to snow, I don't know. But I do know that a snowy Palia would have been awesome.
Happy halloween everyone, a little late btw
Anyone who had the "EU homeplot unable to leave" but and have it fixed? I'm NA but I had to use EU VPN just to log on today
server problems s6 side, no workaround, keep trying or take a break :/
I'm ready for new furniture, got enough to craft a bed and 2 chairs. š¤Ŗ
Man, I need some new furniture in this game, bad.
And not like 1/3 of a new set that could barely make a single room.
the rest of the emberborn set would be nice to start off with
I agree. Especially the wall that I saw got datamined.
I want all the walls ||the pebble one, the wooden smaller one, the phoenix one and the dragontide one||
Honestly same Tired of unfinished furniture sets
A new proper set with little trinkets and stuff like Makeshift but not a 'findable' one...
You are talking about the same team that had to delay beards because they were causing lag.
Didn't S6 fire like 10% of their team or something? Might explain why things are how they are if the people who worked on certain things & know how they worked aren't there anymore....
I 100% agree, which is why I'm HOPING the idea is that this is a transitional biome as for MOST people who experience a cold holiday season the snow doesn't hit till near the end of the month, so HOPEFULLY they are preparing the map for that transition and will swap it out before they go on holiday.
If not? It could be more than just "swapping textures for snow"
As they may want things like snowman making, snow angels, or any number of gameplay elements to go with it. Not to mention modeling all the trees and houses (as well as our own) to have snow on them will be a LOT more work than just swapping a snow texture on the ground.
However, I'd personally rather have snow on the ground and nothing on the trees, etc...and they can just add the rest later.
Not to mention I'd love snow as a weather effect.
End of the day, nothing is ever as simple as just a quick texture swap. Everything else has to inform that texture to create a sense of the image as real
Already pretty annoyed that they added snow piles but yet we can't just make snowballs from them we have to buy them? Kinda ridiculous and world breaking
Given Makeshift set has all but disappeared from my loot table, and Rummage set gave me two recipes and then literally nothing of use ever again...AND the Zeki gambling mini-game.
I'm frankly tired of RNG gambling as the only way to collect anything I actually want style-wise.
Why the most mundane objects in the entire game are the hardest to acquire is maddening
Why I have to check a pile of sticks once a day every day just to make a Laundy basket is just comical. Should replace them with items that make sense, such as stick theme'd chachkies or nature related collectable display items for landscaping.
Not a whole wooden towel rack
Makeshift set has this same problem....but at least it has the excuse of you collecting thrown away junk

Also, why does the Valley Sunrise set need 5 freaking ceiling lamps!?
Also, I thought it was just me that got a couple cool things from the first few rumage piles, and then got nothing for two weeks.
Oh how naĆÆve I was.
As they may want things like snowman making, snow angels, or any number of gameplay elements to go with it.
as much as i would like it, i really doubt it (at least for this winter).
The only thing they announced are the snowballs, which pretty sure will be a smoke bomb with a simple snowball model and new hit effect.
I hope most of the devs are working on the Switch adaption and they will be allocating more resources to adding content after that.
I have no issues with the makeshift items there are some nice items in that collection. I do have an issue with the rummage pile like most obtain items/quests the first two weeks and now just getting basic every day I can obtain on my own.
I have also had an issue with Zeki mini game as yes I know you can get a coin basically buying from Zeki shop but if I want to get the furniture items or display items it can take 100ās of coins because most of the time it is fireworks, crop items or cooking items and for them to charge 10k to buy a coin and receive these types of items is absurd.
Once people find a way to make a profit to obtain coins in this game it is immediately nerfed. If you want to nerf something, nerf some of the outrageous prices on items 10k for a painting , expansions (30k-100k after awhile) and so on. I know you donāt want people to get to the end game fast but also have a balance.
Adding content allows your community to prosper and enjoy the game.
hoping for much more content in the update tomorrow. are we just getting the winterlights stuff or are we also getting the new temple? anyone know?
bleh i wish i could connect these two w/ a hallway but nahhh
Yep wonāt work tried everything to attach large to a small does not line up
can't even make an L shaped hallway. very sad
like who has a long hall that goes from one room to the next? halways are supposed to have doors on each side. what they gave use are closets
i guess this is neat
yea this looks GREAT /s
hallway sections are ok for a halfbath, but then a small room is too big for a full bath :/
the lack of doors on the bathrooms is funny to me
maybe we'll get a dedicated bathroom... room.,.. in an update
ok now this is a bruh moment
I HAVE A RTX 3070??
its about ram not graphic card lol
I HAVE 32 GB OF RAM??
you must have a lot open for you to exceed memory then lol
what do you MEAN 3 adobe products and like 150 chrome tabs is too many???
I have 16 and have only had that happen once with illustrator, youtube, and some game open
this just isnt true, since last patch many have had this issue and its a palia problem
TO be fair, i wasn't joking about the 150 tabs
ive had that happen once and i wasnt playing palia at the time
usually palia is using around 3k memory now its around 5-6k
doesnāt happen every time i play either only sometimes and most often around the flow groves 
my palia is around 3k rn
its definitely a RAM thing, that palia may or may not help exceeding lol
yup thats where it should be, often in bahari since last patch though its getting to 5-6k super fast and iāve seen quite a few mention it so idk, happened a couple months ago too but was resolved after the next patch
hope tomorrow will be a successful time for the devs š
Anyone else think that Sifuu's wife Taylin might still be out there.. ? It could be a fun thing to develop further in the future.
Is it normal for river specific fish to be spawning in ponds?
Does anyone know if there's somewhere I can look up the text from the romance quests? I'd love to re-read the story Hassian tells about the stars when he asks you to meet him in his grove, for example.
The official Palia wiki has quest dialogue
Oh, I found it, thank you! I was looking at the character dialog and not at the quests themselves.
No but a couple ponds in bahari are bugged and can give river fish
Does anyone want to decorate my house for me? I will pay you in a amethyst. I have all the furniture I just dont like decorating im uninspired
Good to know. I'll use Kilima's ponds for now
You could make a party in #1143270926394335282 and invite the first 10 people over and give them artistic license to decorate with the furniture you layout on your plot
I just counted all the quests in my completed section⦠185!!! A HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE!! Show me a game thatās in beta w that many quests!!!! I still have 3 to do at the moment. And some undiscovered.
I would LOVE to know how many quests are actually in Palia!?! 300?!
I could! No need to even pay me I love decorating!
If you wanna see my plot for an example add me, my username is the same as on here 
Added you š
I think I got the pulsating key quest again but I'm pretty sure I did it
Jina doesn't seem to care for it so it must be a bug
I think they're too ingrained in how WoW and LoL did not have actual seasons ever and all the seasonal celebrations were like this, just decorations added to towns that NEVER change in looks in World of Warcraft, or how League used to have a winter map 200 years ago but now it's "too much work".
for a life sim??? this is the choice you make for a LIFE SIM?? I just cannot understand the devs truly
They be like āPalia is like animal crossingā and then do this
seasonal maps should've been added from the getgo Not Going To Lie
and it should affect farming, but there should be a mid-late game greenhouse and all seeds should be available at the underground maybe but at a higher price out of season? nd then in-season crops r gotten at the general store like usual
thag alone would add a lot of life to the game :((
I just want a dragon to ride
Did you guys see the xmas decorations above Zeki's house front door? Other NPC houses too?
Not that I noticed. Will have to look when I log on later
Ahh!! My game just took a hard crash!
Can agree with seasons affecting gardens, tho I think after they hit a much larger crop variety. Having seasonal crops would shake things a lot given the whole 'puzzle' nature of crop buffs.
Not entirely sure about seed pricings but they'd definitely help newer players avoid planting off-season crops
Overall though the feature would be really fun to watch ASDUHASHUD. If there's other skills that can be affected by seasons, you'd have a dynamic shift based on season such as cooking meta. All exciting if the in-season options can add variety without being an overall nerf
Might steal this idea.
Does anyone know if there will be anything Palia related at Dreamhacks this year in Atlanta?
You are the first one I see playing Palia on Lenovo Go. How does it run? Native resolution or everything on low?
Had some ideas about housing plot. What does everyone this of this idea? It's a little technical. I did submit this to S6 via the website so hopfully it will be considered
The housing plot itself - not including buildable area - can use some work. Specifically, I think it could be completely reworked. I am aware this will take some doing but I think it will be MUCH better than the current. Hopefully faster?
Currently (to establish record only), from Kilima's side, there's the gate, instance trigger, and the narrow(ish) path to the plot. On the housing side, there's the gate, instance trigger, path back to Kilima, and the clearing. The entire thing is an instance.
SO, my idea involves redefining what the "plot instance" consists of. Most importantly, you'd only keep the buildable area as the actual "instance". The plot board to visit others would just swap out building areas. This of course would require, to keep code sane, the mailbox and sale bin to be movable and placed inside the building area. Next, make all the meshes (except buildable area) a part of Kilima zone. Next, extend the path leading to the plot clearing, making sure it curves in downward direction - starting at an angle and going about 100-120 degrees to provide proper cover. Instead of the zone triggers on either end, you would have three on Kilima's side. Having the path sloped downward allows the clearing to have higher cliff faces. Also leaves room in case S6 ever decides a buildable two-story house would be cool to have. At the end of the path, right before the clearing, use a swappable rock wall mesh to cover the void when unloaded.
trigger1: load geometry meshes for the clearing. This is placed at the swing gate.
trigger2: load plot instance. Placed around 10-20ft past the gate to allow completion of clearing.
trigger3: Unload both the clearing and plot instance. This one is placed in front (closer to the village) of trigger1 so that if player hits trigger1 and then decides to leave right away, the plot is still unloaded as normal. Would probably have to force abort the task from trigger1.
The idea is that the player doesn't have a loading screen between Kilima and their plot. It also eliminates the need to keep reloading all the meshes that never change. Can probably load the instance in this order too: trees+bushes+rocks, structures (rooms and tents) and mailbox+sale bin, fences, and then everything else.
I think there are missing colliders behind the lighthouse -.- I allready fallen in the floor in two different places
It's been like this for a while hopefully today's update will fix it
I find it kinda hard to visualize what you want to do tbh. You want the house only be a separate instance while the mailbox and shipping bin are basically in kilima?
i can“t even use the unstuck thing in the Chat -.-
If you go towards the Lighthouse you can jump up
I am DESPERATE for some form of cantina or cafe in Bahari - these grove chops are making me lose focus like crazy and I'm not the best when it comes to remembering to take food with me. Reth honey, please sell a franchise across the border - mumma needs her lettuce soup! 
Yeah a dedicated place to relax and socialize might be nice

lettuce make some notes
What stuff besides new quests are added in this patch?
A Palia code bugs spray can to carry with you.
Guess no Palia for me today. Will be working and going home and arrive when the patch is starting and go to bed an hour before it ends^^ Hope the will fix the climbing bug or maybe doing something big like seperating shoes from pants
When it “s happen, I go back home
Who's got patch bingo card duty tomorrow 
/sprays down the channel with flame... okay I know that word is not getting past the automod, uhhh, anti fire chemicals lmfao
Will the snow be enough to put out the dumpster fire the discord will inevitably be as is tradition, we shall have to see 
I would love to hear if/when you get a reply regarding this! o.o
Absolutely agree with this! I am really surprised that S6 didn't utilize a persistentworld setup with their zones.
sometimes I wanna get into gamedev just to read assumptions people write on the forums š
the reason you have a loading screen is because your plot is a 25man server shared with 24 other people.
the reason it takes so long is because of matchmaking, actual map load takes 4 seconds and the plot is streamed after loading in
your "comlpete rework" (avoid using this phrase if you want any developer of anything ever to treat your suggestions seriously) completely breaks multiplayer aspect of housing plots too but I get it, the game's barely multiplayer so it's easy to forget how it works 
any chance anyone can help me out here, i can't leave my plot
welcome to the club. EU or NA player ?
eu
Same. Have this issue "unable to connect" since mid October and three tickets at support.
I can't even join game since yesterday. They have a flaw in their infrastructure or way users are allocated to servers. Happens to me also when I come back from Bahari with invent full (or not) and teleporting to Kilima. Obviously there are not enough instances of servers to host all players.
I have little hope they will fix this with this Tuesday patch (US time).
Would be curious to see how many users with this issue are in EU on "EU servers".
Using a VPN to NA did cure it on some occasions for me. But I'm more and more convince the issue migth not be networking (DNS) related at all. More like a design flaw from the begining in users/maps/instance of server relation. I love this game but the way support did address my tickets make me want to throw stones I get from chapas.
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Strikes me how smooth it was to load after login and change maps at will at begin of beta in August. It went down the drain since. My guess the "unable to connect" happens when the game can't find a server free slot for you to join (at load or map change). I saw a change in perfs when Epic users joined by the dozens.
Commenting again to ask how many quests there are again in the game??
I counted all mine quests and thereās 183!!
No idea sorry. May check when I get a chance to get in again. Proly not before Wednesday my time. If I can.
Does anyone know if the pelia is live in the switch yet?
you're forgetting that nothing gets unloaded on your plot (we're not talking about culling) and that each plot has a what 4k items limit or whatever? you can only cache so much, and if you prioritize house buildings you still will never ever have a smooth load experience if you want to stream 500 different meshes and place them on 4k positions, with real time shadows
this is not that kinda game for such hardcore approaches, this kind of loading has to be extra optimized, think of it like gta vi level of optimization, never going to happen
What are you doing with quest items? I still have Einar's pebble pile and the Phoenix Fortunes although I finished those quests...
I throw them into Storage
Me too, but they're taking away space and I'll never need them again ._.
they take 0 space (save for the odd item)
yeah, I didn't mean it in a literal way š I just meant they're lying there in the chest with no use.
I completed everything questwise in the game for now and have ~210 + there are a few quests, that I was not able to do bcs they trigger if u mess up a quest and start an additional one, one of subiras new friendship quests for example
Mhm of all the "befriending" quests that you only get if you didn't max out all NPCs at the same time
Or don't give a pebble to Eianar before getting a quest prompt to do so, don't have the right mining level check for one, etc. I've given up on trying to have all quests haha
At least the reward for "Pebbles for Einar" is just a bit of renown and friendship š¦
i thought there was a pebble that we're supposed to get, too?
Ah that you just get from a certain dialogue response with Einar while chatting, Werelex will probably clarify haha
You get a shiny pebble decor if you pick the water personality dialogue option when he asks you how your day was on one of the lower friendship levels. The dialogue never comes up again and if youāre max friendship with him I suggest you make a ticket so that they mail it to you
I was literally typing it already

Iām so predictable
I'm max Friendship and made a ticket and they just told me "you'll get it at some point" lowkey was offended š„²š
At some point? When???
Idk man I sent my max relationship with him they just mailed it to me
I keep saying I never recieved it to place it and my reports just get closed š
Lol youāre getting gaslit by Palia support
Do you have to have all shiny pebbles to turn them in?
Figured i'd give it a break until the invisibility bug is fixed so i can definitively say I did not recieve it
It is fixed actually lol thatās why I made a ticket as soon as the patch dropped, I was so jealous of other folks and also they didnāt let the rest of us have the pebble
No, you can gift them at your own pace. But right now I suggest you hold on to your pebbles because the achievement with them is bugged.
I still have the broken lute quest item and not deco, the same for pebbles, all sorts - I just don't trust that it'll be sorted so I don't bother š
I could not place the pebble. It is invisible.
They sent me this literally 3 days ago T.T so that's even worse ahaha
thanks, i'll do that after they get through today's patch
You canāt get Badruus lute unless you make a ticket :/
Yes they didnāt announce it I had to find out from other players
But yeah i figured the pebble was like Badruu's lute, fixed for some and not fixed for others
correct, I dont' believe they actually will so I don't bother ticketing \o/
They did send me the new lute after a ticket
i've yet to be broken down. probably because i've only been playing since october.
Ah gotcha! Thank you!
still have new player stars in my eyes lol
What about Jina's flower Pot? Still broken?
yup
Ooh i sent a ticket for the lute and the pebble, got both sent to me in game mail
Same
They hate me 
my one and only ticket was ignored and the logs broke the form itself, then I just ignored the entire thing and carried on with my day š
I want to place the pebble, the flowers and the lute, please.
I placed Jina's flowers and they were invisible and then disappeared completely and I wasn't able to pick them up again. LOL. Badruu's lute worked for me, though, and I was able to place it in my house.
My first ticket was about Hekla lying to Einar that Iām cheating on him and the support said Hekla is just jealous because she wants Einar to herself and I was like ok this is canon
honestly i think it depends who you get as the support worker because a friend also got memed by one and had to send in all logs/pc specs, screenshots etc and only then after a week got it sent in mail 
That is a rather cool move of them. Very interesting plot line.
I literally just said hi i never got Einarās pebble decor and that was all, no logs/screenshots etc 
Damn what not even sending pics of the friendship tab? Are you privileged or what?
Pookie you should tell them your 3k Palia coins disappeared theyāll believe you 
They check my account info with 1000 played hours and just automatically send, no questions asked 
I joke btw pls ily Palia support team
Oo thank you so much for that info!! So many quests š¤©
it's weirdly quiet in here today
wait a few more hours for the servers to go down 
i bet the patch notes will be once again, a big nothing burger

christmas decor, snowballs, approach of achievement fix and cosmetics, nothing more to expect, like we know that for weeks now xD
snowballs we gotta pay for too š
and they are only edited smokebombs, don't rly care about them, at least we need to gather the decor and don't throw gold at the register
is there any way to track what shiny pebbles you have found and given him, or just look on the wiki and check each spot?
no way to track them ingame
Did they remove the option to choose from three silhouettes when crafting furniture or is that a bug?
why not have snowballs as things you pick up from ground, only Zeki could charge for snow lol
not all furniture set have those, moonstruck for example iirc
cause s6 hasnt figured out the technology to do that yet
You just gave Zeki an idea 
moonstruck do, im currently working on that set, if you havent go the silhouette's then you have made it all?
I just started the kilima set and it would just give me a recipe instead of choosing
omg Hekla's SL quests are heartbreaking 
Oh no i hope the new Asia Pacific server won't lock me out from other region like EU server to NA 
Any idea if more uses for reknown will be added? I'm dropped off playing a lot, because I'm capped and don't wanna complete achievements and just lose the rewards. Have they said anything about adding additional things to spend it on?
I hope the update unbreaks the controller stuff today
Unpopular opinion, the game needs a lot of optimization tweeks, a lot of bugged, glitched objects and places where you fall through the ground, i m happy that we get content update but. would be nice to also have these kind of updates. So my RTX 4080, won't lag on Unreal Engine lmao.
It won't lock you out. It will just priotise you there.. You can switch to another region via a friend sync in that region
at this point S6 is just trolling 
Gravity is non existent in Palia
I mean the distinct lack of shimmerflies
