💬│palia-discussions

[warm python]

Like if we keep going "later tho", and then later comes, and later... They're gonna lose a lot of the player base they currently have and are gonna have to start from, well, not scratch but definitely without the former support, when the game is "done"

So that's honestly gonna be even more money they're gonna have to put into marketing if they've lost a lot of their beta audience

[scenic siren]

Yeah the way I read this is they might add a few more options to the starter/free wardrobe but are completely against having any kind of earnable clothing. As someone who much prefers clothing to house decorating it’s really disappointing

[uneven crane]

I really find myself struggling to understand exactly what kind of game they were trying to be. I have a distaste for games that heavily push "daily" tasks, which this game does by only being allowed to gift an NPC once per IRL day. I don't want to feel forced to login every day, but this game does that.

With Maji Market, you can play the event once per IRL hour, which is hard for myself to plan around because I really can only focus my time in spurts - not for 5-10 minutes every hour. The game doesn't really respect my time, especially when considering crops only grow once an IRL hour - an apple tree takes almost 30 IRL hours to achieve all the harvests. If you can only play for an hour a day, it's a month for the entire growth cycle of the tree, and like two weeks before the first harvest? That's a long time.

And to see every patch come out with more cosmetics and even more bugs? I like having things to strive for, but the RNG of a lot of the things the bundles require are just too low for me to be able to justify the time investment to get. Plenty of other games respect my time more than Palia seems to.

The AMA from a few weeks ago was really disappointing too.

[gritty socket]

The alternative is that they over-promise and get bopped for not reaching the goals

[undone mulch]

meanwhile the marketing people are just there trying to keep the budget going by selling clothes and plushes and they don't have any idea what's going on with either the optics of the game or the mechanics of the game and don't know why people are upset with them. it's kind of a three ring circus going here and everybody's the clowns by accident

[west marlin]

i wonder what happened to beards 😂 its been like a month or two since it was first mentioned lol

@gritty socket thats not the only alternative. They could just be like many other games and have a clear planned road map and work towards it. Id' rather have some understanding of the vision even if its not 100% realized, instead of just hearing hopeful promises of *'they'll maybe someday fix it eventually' * for every single issue that's ever raised

[undone mulch]

so yeah, no heart. no centralizing force driving the game forward. just clown

[gritty socket]

They were just mentioned in the September dev letter

[hollow bramble]

Everyone stop debating and watch this https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cw_i6l7rkyP/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

[west marlin]

ya. true. it was just as whatever 'on the horizon' means in the last two dev letters too, thats the joke. they've been promising it for a month or two now.

[uneven crane]

my poor headphone-laden ears

[hollow bramble]

I cant stop watching it, he moves perfectly to the music

[north wing]

Couple things that should not count as a building structure, koi pond, windmill, and the fireplace. If you cannot walk inside of it, it should not count as a structure. What do you guys think?

[young plank]

i would just like to not have limits at all when it comes to decorating

[west marlin]

i imagine they are limits set for the switch version, we'll have to see what performance on the switch looks like before we get any hope in upping that limit

[undone mulch]

i think the limits have more to do with the game trying not to crumple under the load and less about zoning laws

[uneven crane]

Or for renown, which isn't explained - many of my friends have lost an unknown amount of renown because they didn't know there even was a cap 😭

[gritty socket]

Eh, you say this, but you'd eventually run into performance issues. Folks are theorizing that part of the current plot lag is fence related, for example

[dense ermine]

And yet just an update ago... no issue.

[neat marlin]

yeh, it is impossible for anything that uses a server to have anything with no cap

[north wing]

Also planting an apple tree should not reguire farmland, especially since we can plant other trees anywhere and harvest them.

[young plank]

oh odd i dont though and i have tons of fences on my plot but i get it lower end computers prob cant handle it. This game isnt really set up for lower end computers

[west marlin]

the amount of players i know who have 0 idea what the shrines are about is staggering. they really need to do better to tell people to user their damn renown

@dense ermine there's always some justification 😂

[uneven crane]

I only knew about the cap because I hovered over everything in the menu early on, so I attribute it to sheer dumb luck that I didn't lose any renown 😂

[gritty socket]

Again, that's just what players are suggesting as the issue, and I'm not throwing it out there as any sort of justification

[outer atlas]

friendly reminder to collect your kitsuu loot

[neat marlin]

no it is in fact causing a lot of lag server side, again this has nothing to do with anyone's computer, because it isn't stored locally but remotely on a server. Of course there is some issue with servers right now, but the idea of no cap would mean it would eventually crash as things accumulate

[west marlin]

oh no the amount of client side control on this game would blow your mind, if it was a load on the client side i wouldn't be shocked at all

[dense ermine]

They have until release to smooth out all the rough spots. Lets see if they can manage before December 2024.

[uneven crane]

Have you been following certain .. forums in recent weeks? I haven't been watching much the past month or so, were there any new developments?

[neat marlin]

nah if it is 100% on client side, then it opens up it being easy to mod, which isn't a bad thing but I don't think it is atm

[young plank]

I mean its already happening no? so adding switch isnt going to help them. just look at ddlv on switch. its a nightmare

[west marlin]

It is. 100% it is. And it ties into @uneven crane question that this game is so broken as far as hacking/cheating is concerned its not even funny 😂 S6 hasn't made much leeway if thats what you wanted to know Terios

[undone bone]

Using this as an excuse to complain about how they should add more tutorial things like teaching about forageable loot timers. The anxiety of learning about this by players getting upset at you for not knowing and picking the dari cloves before everyone arrives

[gritty socket]

Honestly, foragables need a visible timer of some kind

[west marlin]

@uneven crane not my screenshot, but id say those guys are having fun

[young plank]

188?! holy 👀

[uneven crane]

188? That's rookie numbers

[neat marlin]

then that would mean that obviously s6 never need to introduce unlimited cap cause you can just do local modes to increase the things you place on your farm XD

[west marlin]

I wouldn't be shocked if the cheat enginge people can already do that today tbh

[outer atlas]

their name says it all

[tender yoke]

also the amount of people that don’t know that flow trees and palia are even shareable. i’ve seen so many stupid arguments in game because of this. new player has no clue they’re shareable, someone sees them, new player proceeds to get flames in chat

[gritty socket]

Yeah, there are clearly some server-side checks. Probably not enough of them, but...

[young plank]

prob i wouldnt doubt it with the stuff i already seen on my palium routes its crazy how s6 is not taking this serious

[neat marlin]

I'd look forward to that honestly, the above I think someone mentioned it being just positional data sending hack, different to increased item limit

[west marlin]

Hey @thick sundial how does it feel to have been banned longer then a confirmed hacker?

(this email isnt for me, I found it on the cheater forum)

[uneven crane]

is it sad that I'm not surprised?

[undone bone]

FOR REAL!!! People are so mean to players who don't know things that the game doesn't tell them!!! So much for the 'friendly and cozy community'

[thick sundial]

They just cant handle me I guess. 1 ur mom joke: 4 week ban. Break game: 72 hours <3... I cant help it Im popular

[neat marlin]

the game does tell you to go to shrine and pray though. The reknown cap is still annoying cause I capped when a lot of npc reached a certain relationship lvl at the same time, and I didn't realise it was capped

[uneven crane]

unrelated to anything, just how my brain works - but now I will have "Popular" from Wicked stuck in my head for the next three hours

[junior nacelle]

Can i ask if anyone have experience not getting the mahi market arch ? I have finish it but still wasn't able to get it

[dense ermine]

Banned longer than a hacker? Seems fishy.

[outer atlas]

#📢│palia-news message they said the players that rewards were not being granted in the last few weeks. they will be sending them to everyone affected via in-game mail
so hopefully you get your reward

[west marlin]

so excited to get those bonus tickets....after the event ends... 😂

[warm python]

Just gotta wait for the eventual next time... Whenever that is... If one is still even playing then

[gritty socket]

They could maybe make the cap visible in the UI instead of a tooltip

[tender yoke]

i imagine they’d probably do an event for halloween maybe? or christmas possibly so maybe that’ll be when we see another one lol

[neat marlin]

yeh or just tell me when it is close to cap, like you are close! use it

[west marlin]

I'm banking on the rushed switch release completely stalling the progress of the game, so im gonna say its unlikely ill still be around but who knows 😂

[uneven crane]

maybe the game could like actually TELL you there's a cap, and give you a big honkin' warning when you're close to (or at) the cap, like most games do? xD

[gritty socket]

Halloween event seems a bit too soon, but I could see a Winter holiday thing. We'll probably see dialog hinting at it a patch or so prior, though

[worn snow]

like it does w the inventory thing

[junior nacelle]

Thank you for that i was afraid i will not get it for decorations😅😅

[uneven crane]

if people on PC are having performance issues, I can only imagine how the performance would be on the Switch ..

[outer atlas]

i would still take a screenshot of everything though just incase they mess up and dont give you the rewards

[west marlin]

you guys ever worry you'll accidently post ur rp posts in the wrong discord channel 😳

[uneven crane]

I still don't understand why there's even a cap on renown in the first place, you can get like hundreds of renown from a single quest completion in some cases, and given how squirrelly I am with keeping track of things being close to cap.. It's SO easy to lose on 100+ renown by accident. It's really punishing for seemingly no reason

[warm python]

FRICKEN ALWAYS

[west marlin]

o-oh
yah, see...thats what im scared of accidently posting here....something like that 😂
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[warm python]

LMFAAAAOOOOOOOO

[tender yoke]

squirrel brain solidarity, i lose track of that stuff so easily. i easily forget to refill my focus and i’ve had a couple times where i’ve forgotten to repair a tool or two 😭…

[gritty socket]

Yeah, they posted that in #🍵│reth’s-kitchen as well

[outer atlas]

and in newbies

[north crystal]

I have a hard-learned tendency to quadruple-check where my RP posts go

I don't need no one seeing my business, had to pull the cord on too many guilds in the past already 🤣

[west marlin]

well uh at least they're only kissing i guess

@north crystal man what would i do if i posted it in my warcraft guild chat...im the damn guild leader, i just cant bail 😂

[gritty socket]

But, surprisingly, not General! At least it was cropped.

[warm python]

Imetrius you cursed us with that line of conversation

But fr I always have to like quadruple check too.

[outer atlas]

maybe because it might get picked up quicker by the mods... thats my only guess

[north crystal]

Oh only kissing? That's not that bad

Not compared to some of the mistypes I've made seen

[uneven crane]

I'm more prone to accidentally message the wrong chat/channel on mobile, because sometimes mobile Discord is confused and thinks I'm somewhere else

[west marlin]

i do take full responsibility for the pony incident. I was tempting fate 😔

@north crystal just to be clear i didnt post the kissing ponies ok i just somehow feel like i willed them into existence with my conversation about misposted rping

[uneven crane]

it really was impeccable timing 😂

[tender yoke]

that’s why i always triple check where i’m posting lol

[gritty socket]

@north crystal I'm pretty sure it was a cropped image, so I wouldn't be so sure! I've developed a bit of a 6th sense for that sort of thing.

@west marlin i mean, the whole thing was perfect comedic timing. IMO, we needed the laugh

[west marlin]

the timing couldnt have been better lol

[outer atlas]

no like so... what almost happens to me is discord can be laggy on the phone so when im trying to like click into emotes or whatever sometimes its bugs out and brings up my photos and i almost send some random pictures makes me wanna cry and almost gives me a heart attack when it happens

[warm python]

All hail weird pony person. Sort of. Just for the laugh.

[west marlin]

its sooooo scary espeically if you copy and paste something long and spicy and all of a sudden you're in the wrong place like nooooooo 😰 discord please

[uneven crane]

sometimes discord shows me the chat logs of a DM but shows I'm in a server's channel, and I never know whether it's the DM or the server

[gritty socket]

Discord is held together with tape and hope at this point, I feel

[outer atlas]

so i have a copy and past for cake parties i send to people when they ask what a cake party is... and one time i thought it was my last copy and paste.... it turned out to be a spicy meme

[warm python]

That's why I have a habit after every single time I copy paste something (even if it's completely innocent) I copy a few random letters afterwards just so I don't have anything spicy (or just, any RP really) on the clipboard LOL

[west marlin]

actually so real....

[uneven crane]

this is actually really smart

[warm python]

Bigbrain move

[hollow bramble]

Y’all outing your ERP ways 👀

[warm python]

Unrelated (for now I guess), I've watched an embarrassing amount of one piece eps in these past three days

[hollow bramble]

I’ve binge watched like 5 seasons of AHS

[warm python]

Nice LOL I've seen a handful of eps of that at some bar I used to go to. Meanwhile I'm up to ep uhh 75 of one piece. Which gives me like.... A thousand to go...

[hollow bramble]

Yeah I can’t ever get into naruto or one piece because the episode count is insane (meanwhile rewatches attack on titan four times)

[uneven crane]

what is AHS? I feel like I should know what that stands for as someone who watches a lot of anime, but I am flummoxed

[warm python]

I've avoided OP for years and years despite it being my bestie's fav cause of the amount of eps but the live action got me super interested and got me in finally lol

[outer atlas]

american horror story

[hollow bramble]

No no, American horror story. Not anime this time 🤣

HORROWWWWWWW @outer atlas

@warm python I may watch it eventually 🫠 but I feel like I missed the train long ago

[uneven crane]

oh, I VERY incorrectly assumed it was an anime LOL

[outer atlas]

wait it was actually it? i lowkey thought i maybe it did stand for an anime and i was trying to figure it out AHS is good though

[hollow bramble]

Yeah I’m kind of obsessed with Sarah Paulson ughhhh

[warm python]

I'd def suggest checking out the live action at the least! Eight eps and even though it makes some changes from the show it's a really good adaptation imo, some changes made it better even

[west marlin]

American horror story the anime would be rad tho

[warm python]

Ugh I gotta wake up early tomorrooooow

[outer atlas]

tish got some kind of dragontide sponsor

[warm python]

Lord those backgrounds always make me laugh

[chilly abyss]

lvl 99 romance with badruu

[warm python]

Omg I didn't see that since I'm on mobile

[gritty socket]

Does... Does Delaila know? (But yeah, I've had dialog and the UI glitch out on occasion, too. Not often though)

[brisk spruce]

at least it didn't also glitch to say "Auni" like someone else's did the other day

[gritty socket]

Yeah... it probably just picked the first name in the table, which when arranged alphabetically would be Auni. I've always loved trying to puzzle out why bugs happen

[chrome fern]

I think I'm at the point in the game where I just want my own Ormuu

[north crystal]

They're very groovy, I dig them

[topaz fulcrum]

Hello Palians. I love old fasioned way of spawining flow trees. I love to deforest area to make then randomly spawn. So I have a question. With new patch we will have only new way of spawn them (Group of trees ONCE an hour a irl day) or that will be just add on to randomly spawn of trees after choping area down?

[high bear]

Has it been mentioned anywhere what Einar's other Oneness(es) are ?

[faint elbow]

What is the redacted redacted the devs are talking about? Anyone have a guess?

[neat marlin]

have to wait for patch notes i guess, unless a dev would grace us with their presence

[kind gazelle]

Currently out of their shift so we'll have to wait next week for the patch notes. 👀

[neat marlin]

oo, a mod replied to me, my day has peaked~

[gritty socket]

I know Einar himself mentions ||all of the options he gives you are his Onenesses||, but other than that, people have been speculating a bunch in this thread: https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1138281435132866693 The Palia-lore section is one of my favorite places here. You find out so much.

[solemn cedar]

Also, can we have a proximity alert where if someone is x far away it doesn’t just disappear as you run towards it? I had 5 briar daisies disappear on me as I was 3 secs from them 😭

[chrome fern]

I believe it'll just be the groves according to the Dev notes, I didn't read anywhere that they'll continue to spawn randomly after chopping trees

[fathom radish]

i don’t see it implied anywhere they won’t continue to spawn randomly, especially since they spawn in both maps right now not only bahari where these groves will be

[zealous pike]

are you noticing slower farming on flow trees? it's feeling slow now ><

[topaz fulcrum]

Hope so

[chrome fern]

Yes!! It took me a forever trying to farm them, only to get three which was unusual for a full day's work!

[zealous pike]

T_T same
@scarlet kettle everyone lol X_X

[scarlet kettle]

Is anyone else having major lag while editing their home/garden?

[zealous pike]

today it worked for me for a while, but it's been mostly lagging so bad i can't do anything

[chrome fern]

I'm sure I said "I didn't read anywhere..." 😂 thank you for your input

[fathom radish]

yup but i was suggesting the opposite, you didnt read that they will continue to spawn and i’m saying that i didn’t read that they won’t continue to spawn, so could go either way but i’m sure they will continue to randomly spawn

[scarlet kettle]

Yeah, it's bad bad. I'll have to wait. To move 3 plots it took me 10 minutes.

[robust mortar]

Hi guys, do you know how can I connect this 1 large room to my house? Like in the picture I want to connect my large room with either left or right side of my house but it says something is blocking the way. I did not know that it will blocked my new room, I thought it would be automatically connected. So what should I do to be able to connect my room? Should I buy the hallway or something?

[outer atlas]

Hello so the harvest house doesnt like rooms diagonal to it ..its just silly and buggy lol but here is a workaround https://reddit.com/r/Palia/s/1TsgiDUGIe

[robust mortar]

Ah ok so I need to buy Hallway then. Ok tyvm 😄

[zealous pike]

or you can build the 3 connector on the outside of anything
take the three larges and attach them to the medium in the image
then move the three to the other side
or whatever arrangement, just has to be moved to the correct location

[fickle torrent]

Any ideas for what the new decor part of the uppdate on tuesday will be? I really want books and other cozy decor items😁

[cinder wave]

It did not imply anywhere they wouldn't spawn. If anything it merely sounds like a chance for people who do not want to farm random pops, they give us one sure chance to get flow every palian sun cycle 🤔

[fathom radish]

yep thats exactly what i said haha

[fluid quiver]

Could possibly be the fire set that they hadn't added yet

[robust mortar]

Is there something I can put in the middle of my room beside table? I already have 3 tables and a lot of chairs so I want to put something but I cannot find anything because its all table 😦
I am thinking like recreation furniture, maybe like Billiard table or something 🤔

[fickle torrent]

I really hope they add new furniture that are less fancy 😁

[lyric night]

decor enhancement could also mean that they'll add their talked about features like visually opening cabinets etc. maybe we will get that and no new decor

[robust mortar]

I am hoping something beside dinner table XD
I already have a lot of that

[median blade]

You could change the layout of your room to have the couches not on the edges, you could google modern room layouts for ideas

[fickle torrent]

Yes, that is a possibility. It will probably come at a later date then😃 I do love what we have already☺️

[lyric night]

hope we will get a huge exterior update in the future, more fences, more outdoor decoration, pathways, bushes new tree heights, that would be an insane and needed update

[robust mortar]

Nah I wont change my current layout. I want when people come to this room, they will find something that can be played. I mean like Billiard in the middle of the room is awesome or maybe something else that we can play with it (I know even there is no mini game mechanic of the game, just the model is enough).

[steep idol]

you have the arcade machines

[robust mortar]

o.O Really we can put the Arcade Machine in our house? Where to get that?

[broken barn]

Is this fish even real???

[fair bough]

whatss the difference between house and harvest house

[outer atlas]

You have rooms.. small medium and large ... the harvest house is your main structure the one you start with then you use rooms to build off of that harvest house(one with the stone stairs and higher ceiling)
You can only have one harvest house per housing slot

[fair bough]

o

[lyric night]

legendary rarity from zekis black market for 60k

[idle remnant]

I think I would love it if there were more varying shades in the dyes available for recoloring furniture.

[chilly abyss]

hey guys, anyone know if blackmarket revamp will add more items to the shop? or just a graphical update for the area?

[lyric night]

there is no info on that but glow up sounds just like a visual upgrade

[distant pagoda]

i actually liked the random flow tree spawns and thought there was enough already
as the post says "more flow has begun to churn throughout the land" i think the groves might be additional to the random trees

[digital lance]

welp.... I have been running around all of Palia collecting those loot chests thinking they sucked because they give you a chest that did nothing... so I deleted all the ones I had sitting on my land since I was saving them for whatever not thinking of it... and I only just now realized you could open them 8) I'm so mad at myself I want to delete my account lmao.

[cinder wave]

No waaaaaay 😭

[digital lance]

yeah that was like 30 chests found and gone. I wasnt aware they could also be opened

[prime pawn]

noo, the ones you place as decor you can't open like the ones you get from fishing. the only thing you lost is them as decor objects

[digital lance]

Yeah, but its items I still missed out on. 😒 Silly, but frustrating.

[olive ridge]

out of the 10 new spicy recipes do we know where to get ||the last 2 that you can´t buy from the cooking guild or the one you get for completing the bundle||?

[tardy obsidian]

Did they fix bugged crop bonuses not applying because game thinks 2x2 and larger crops are 1x1? Asking because I haven't bothered with farming for like 3 weeks now

[limpid mortar]

I have read this on the dev update " And we haven’t forgotten about one of our most popular requests, your downright demands, to [REDACTED] [REDACTED]. We’re just as excited as you are! 💪🌭💗 " what does this mean ? Indont understand

[urban junco]

how to have the 100 years egg and star lettuce soup please?

[lyric night]

unknown, maybe they're not ingame or just nobody came across them yet

[lyric night]

the redacted is a placeholder, post will probably be updated when the devs are back to work on monday

[autumn basalt]

What if Singularity Six added a pet shop to Palia? The could turn bugs and fish into star quality so you can add them to your house as pets, or just sell them. Also it could add chappas as pets too and add a new towns person to freshen up the town a bit. Just a thought.

[buoyant patio]

Hi Palia. I was wondering if there will be a name change coupons that will be available maybe sometime please?

[celest maple]

what does it mean ? Cake parties aren’t going anywhere.

its food so they cant move anyway

[narrow eagle]

"And we haven’t forgotten about one of our most popular requests, your downright demands, to buy more premium outfits. We’re just as excited as you are! 💪🌭💗 "

[tired ingot]

You could try putting in the middle a display case from the homestead set I believe it's from

[lavish cave]

Excuse my dirty screen and computer, but what do I do? I was on it and then I logged off and I’m logging back in and this is popping up.

[frozen vault]

scroll map out then screen cap it

[fathom radish]

i got an answer from someone at s6, the last two recipes are not in the game yet sadly, same with the new furniture recipes also not in game

[pale cosmos]

Seemingly not being connected to the internet might have something to do with that but also #💻│tech-help

[celest maple]

who ping me

[fossil pollen]

Pebbles

[exotic sundial]

Read patch notes, disappointed to see no mention of the many fishing bugs still occurring for many players.

[analog zenith]

Fine, I'll bite...what fishing bugs?

[celest maple]

lets go play Paela

[coarse hearth]

Is the game not laggy anymore? its one of the reasons I stopped playing for a bit

[warm python]

Lag hasn't really been fixed yet, you can give it a shot tho? there's a patch in a few days also so idk

[celest maple]

its like in building it take all the day to do place some fence lol

my restaurant will be cursed finnaly

[coarse hearth]

Editing my house which has become my number 1 thing now, is a nightmare. 5 fps during doing that.

[spark glacier]

I limited the lag on my plot by picking up all my fencing.

[coarse hearth]

For me to limit the lag, lmao. It would require great sacrifice. there are... A lot of things on my plot. Lmao. A lot.

[lyric night]

we will hopefully get a fix for that in the scheduled biweekly patch on tuesday, they have to fix it. Its already taking too long .-.

[exotic sundial]

@analog zenith I don't know how to link to channels, but there's fishing node issues under suggested, issue discussions. Essentially you try to reel in a fish, it immediately returns line to you, no fish, bubble node disappears. I haven't been able to fish at bubble nodes for weeks. Many other people experiencing it too.

[coarse hearth]

It just sucks because I can't host a cake party because of it. It makes subjecting people to a lot of lag

[limpid tartan]

Could the redacted possibly mean farm animals?

[analog zenith]

Interesting, I haven't seen that one. I wonder if it's a lag/mouse issue

[lyric night]

maybe an empty plot with just the needed stations could work

[coarse hearth]

pls no. Then what would I do with this?

https://forms.gle/eA6TQmVz2QnXyWuQ9

[gentle dragon]

anyone else try to place the chest Trish gives you it just gone now?

[lyric night]

I can place and replace mine, maybe try placing it in an empty room and pick the whole room up

[gentle dragon]

no its completely gone, not on my plot and not in my inventory

[lyric night]

have u placed it inside a room? then pick that room up through the H menu and right click.

[gentle dragon]

no, I was placing it outside while I was cleaning my personal inventory

[lyric night]

The only thing I could suggest now is try relogging. Look closely through ur chest if its maybe there, otherwise u can open a support ticket

[celest maple]

ah opening time

oWo not bad the last

[onyx bloom]

Her flower pot disappeared as soon as I placed it but the chest is still where I put it.

[solemn glen]

How long were you fishing?

[celest maple]

idk i just didnt opened chest since one week

[solemn glen]

Oh okay, pretty cool tho

[hot temple]

I mean... strong arm hot dog has to be romance sifuu and hodari imo lol

[celest maple]

i cant read it but it speak about the new chest palium ?

[exotic sundial]

@celest maple I don't remember seeing anything about that. I was mostly focused on seeing if they even acknowledged the fishing issues at all.

[lusty light]

Its sifuu single?

[hot temple]

I dont think theres anything about palium chests

Yes, Sifuu is single lol

[celest maple]

damn i need definetely more space

[abstract egret]

what do you do with all the empty treasure chests???

[jolly idol]

There’s mention of separating your inbox into three which will make your holding room a lot bigger

[onyx bloom]

Throw them in storage

[hot temple]

theyre decoration so either give em to tish for gifts or use em for decor (also decor/furn doesnt take up space in storage)

[lusty light]

Ohh she is a widow

[celest maple]

hmmm. so basically its a chest empty in a chest empty in a chest empty in a chest empty in a chest empty in a chest empty ... etc in a chest full Lmao

[abstract egret]

thank you so much, i didn’t even think about gifting them to tish!

[small rune]

I wish we could have the Maji Market food recipes after the event ends.

[hollow bramble]

can you actually do this? like Matryoshka dolls?

[tranquil star]

A couple of them (the onigiri and the poke bowl), you can get doing Maji Market stuff, so there are at least 2 you can keep after the event ends. But I wouldn't mind the mochi one myself 🙂

[small rune]

Like I would love the recipes to Delailas sweets. 😊

[tranquil star]

Might happen someday! Hard to say. But I don't think it's gonna happen this Maji Market at least. They did say that the event would be back, so there may be another chance later.

[sleek fulcrum]

I would also like to unlock Delaila's sweets

[west marlin]

Lol

[lusty light]

i guess i will stop playing

[onyx bloom]

I was going to log back in after the patch, if they fixed the lag and collection issues but if I hold out a bit longer they give me free stuff?

[junior wasp]

How lonbg were you gone? 😂

[wicked jolt]

Anyone been able to find hot dog and crab gumbo recipes yet?

[west marlin]

It's not mine it's from reddit, and it's desperate 😂 I do want that plush tho

[sinful sky]

guys do you know if there's any problem with the sushi recipe?? I've spend more than 200 GW and yet nothing...

[onyx bloom]

The only problem with it is that it is random.

[sinful sky]

then I must have the worst RN T_T

[junior wasp]

I've seen posts on Reddit that have claimed they used 1000 GW to get it

[sturdy dust]

Are the gifts for today not out yet?

[onyx bloom]

It took me 300ish of actively only caring about the recipe before I got it so no idea how many casts could have gotten it. I got the unicorn in 20ish of actively trying for it. Fish Stew was 300ish but sashimi was 9 casts. It is random.

[lusty light]

they are out

[west marlin]

I got sashimi and fish stew right away, but no sushi

[junior wasp]

It's under NEWS

[marble girder]

In Bahari right now, and after collecting a full stack of sweet leaves (x30), I had to show some restraint by not picking up two more that were nearby because I didn't want to start a new stack, because once I start a new stack I feel like I have to complete that and just didn't feel like running in circles anymore.

[tiny sequoia]

YO!!! why the game keep crashing?

[onyx bloom]

Aliens

[tiny sequoia]

Fatal error: [File:Unknown] [Line: 440]
Pure virtual function being called

[tranquil star]

You might find some help here: https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1135680775698792488

[viral fog]

anyone know how to get other rugs outside of the chapa rug? i've been trying to get rugs i see other people using but cant seem to find the recipes

[sleek fulcrum]

rugs are sold in zeki underground market

[viral fog]

gotcha!

[celest maple]

is it only hate the white chappa ?

[tiny sequoia]

thx

[tranquil star]

Right now there aren't recipes for the rugs, but you can find them via Zeki

[south nest]

anyone goet good farm layouts that incorporate the corn and chillis?

[chrome swift]

Try asking in #🤝│game-help

[south nest]

will do thanks

[fluid prism]

Really wish we could buy Sweet Leaf. This game kind of turns into a Sweet Leaf collecting sim if you are trying to maximize certain things.

[latent rune]

I thought u could at foraging guild?

[small rune]

I think it costs 3 foraging medals from Ashura. IIRC

[fluid prism]

@latent rune @small rune I wasn't aware of that... I don't have many medals though, so that will be pretty limited. I'll check it out.

[glass plaza]

Are fireworks useful? or can i just sell them?

[sleek fulcrum]

some villagers accept them as gifts

[fluid prism]

They're good for marking where flow trees are found 🙂

[tardy obsidian]

ikr? I hate it that I have to harvest half of Bahari just to make more of dragontide fern planters

[glass plaza]

how do i get into cake parties? ive never done one before

[fluid prism]

@glass plaza #1143270926394335282

[warm python]

Just nerfed/balanced but some people be acting like the sky is falling

[sleek fulcrum]

Happy birthday to the ground
https://i.imgur.com/gLZD3RN.gifv

[warm python]

I'M AM ADUUUUUUULT

[tiny wagon]

I'm maxxed on focus and focus bonus. I find myself burning thru food pretty fast. What kind of food do you guys make and carry around?

[onyx bloom]

Pickled potatoes and sashimi

[celest maple]

sashimi give 100-200 ;-;

[warm python]

I'm almost out of pickled potatoes and potatoes in general..... so idk what to do next lol. maybe now that cake is gonna be balanced people will actually do cooking parties for foods like focus food instead of it being 99.9% cakes so I cant find focus food parties?

[onyx bloom]

Cake is the best focus food, too

[celest maple]

can we buy corn ?

[tardy obsidian]

apple jam lol, if I had to play the cooking minigame every time I wanted to mine 10 stone nodes I'd probably stop using food at all and mod the focus meter out of the UI 😂

[sleek fulcrum]

apple is da wae

[onyx bloom]

25 Gardening and 10 for the rest and the actual level isn't really important. I'm maxed on renown so levels are just a number that I can put on my CV.

[pure trail]

Anyone dislike hunting after you leave kimila for bahari bay?

If you dont have great aim, you need a slow arrow for how fast they are

And that takes 1 slow arrow, 3 iron arrows, and swapping between arrows is clunky

[celest maple]

can we buy corn in shop ?

[chrome swift]

I think you can only buy seeds from ||Zeki's General Store|| but I could be wrong 😮

[pure trail]

You can buy them from badrus shop at his farm, there's a register

[ocean tartan]

I really hope they add more modification color options too!

[tiny wagon]

@tardy obsidianamen

[hollow bramble]

omg we have corn now?@!?!?!?!

[warm python]

Yeah I loathe it. I was not happy when they were like "okay we're also gonna put less of the weaker deer now!" so you gotta deal with chasing those insert things I can't call them without cream hitting me with a mallet across half the darn map

[shut finch]

can someone tell me how to post in lfg? I can never comment to join cake parties

[onyx bloom]

!LFGparty

[opal cypress]

How-To: Use the LFG-Parties Forum

1️⃣ How to view the forum
Head on over to id:browse to make sure you have it checked as a channel showing up on your sidebar!

You will also need the LFG role to create any new posts in the forum. Please understand this is to keep things organized.

2️⃣ How to participate in an existing thread
You can view all the active threads in the forum. Feel free to join any that have the "Spots open!" tag. (Note: tags are self-organized by the thread-maker, so they might not be accurate). You can click into the thread and send a message!

You can also use the tags found at the top of the forum to filter what posts you see, or the search bar itself.

3️⃣ How to create a new thread
Make sure you have the LFG role! You can obtain this by heading on over to id:customize and finding the question that asks which channels you want to join.

This will grant you the needed role, then you can now make a thread in the forum! As a good party host, please make sure to be accurate and informative in your post, especially with your tags as this is how other players can find the right party to join in. Thanks!

[pure trail]

XD. im going to see how much I can get from rare hunts with the horn, but sadly Ill probably drop hunting altogether even though it was my favorite skill when it started. Its just way to much of a headache hitting a deer that runs so fast, makes sharp random turns lmao

[onyx bloom]

So intuitive, it takes that to explain how to do it and still triggers slowmode cool down. This place makes zero sense.

[warm python]

You ain't wrong

[celest maple]

we are agree its a bug ?

[ruby flower]

there nothing in the back?

[celest maple]

ther is grass 🤣

[ruby flower]

😅

[junior wasp]

I just work it into my palium /flow tree/hunting circuit.

[fervent wing]

Has anyone been able to find the sushi recipe since the latest patch? Feels impossible

[warm python]

A few have, but the vast majority of people seem to be having more trouble than ever so something may be bugged

[brisk spruce]

yes, people have. I made a brand new account because I was skeptical and found it on that too, but my main account is around 900 worms now with no recipe so it still feels like something is wrong

[gritty socket]

Honestly, I enjoy cooking enough that if you ever need a cooking buddy, I'm game

[warm python]

Customer service seems to be giving inconsistent answers as to whether there could be a bug or not. I've seen people told that it's an issue they're aware of, i've seen people told "git gud"... Giving me big grubhub /pizza emote energy /sobs

[gritty socket]

I mean, that's the big issue. it could be a bug, or it could still legitimately be runs of bad RNG

[fervent wing]

I guess we'll have to wait and see, and hope for the best with the next patch

[cinder wave]

Many speculate something happened to Sushi recipes rarity rate. It just feels weird it's literally rarer than any epic fish now

[glossy dock]

I should've rushed thru furniture making when I had the chance 🪳🛠️. Now my storage is full, I'm 2/3rd near the gold cap and I'm too busy to sorry thru my storage. 😭

[outer atlas]

Speaking of customer service I now have 4 people on my damn ticket... 3 support and a developer gimmie fishy
Idk how they will fix it ... like will they give my account the achievement? Thay sounds easy enough..come on now quick quick hahahha

[fervent wing]

Yeah it's quite funny, I have found a lot of giant goldfish, but no recipe

[warm python]

Oh no I totally get that! Being disappointed is absolutely okay. Lord knows I was when my money makers got nerfed. But you can still do cake parties with your friends, they probably just won't give a morbillion gold anymore but I imagine they'll still be lucrative

[brisk spruce]

The only big issue is that their customer service can't give consistent answers, so it leaves us all confused. If they could consistently say "yes it's bugged" or "no it's not" or "it's bugged for some people, can I see your logs to confirm if you're one of them or not?" then we would know if there's something wrong or not by now.
Their communication continues to lack in important places...

[solemn glen]

Anyone else smile real big when Hekla says "My Jina needs me" ?

[outer atlas]

Rotate your camera and try that way... sometimes mine does the same

[gritty socket]

At this point, I'm still relatively forgiving of their CS. Part of this beta is working on adapting their current systems to a much larger playerbase, since every other test before open beta had limits on invites. Hopefully they expand and improve their CS over time, though, because people are going to get fed up eventually.

[brisk spruce]

I had to deal with it firsthand so I am less forgiving. It was a very much frustrating experience being on the player end of that ticket and knowing so much more about the game than the person responding to you. Even one of their canned responses was wrong.

[gritty socket]

That's entirely fair!

[warm python]

idk, I think if there's an issue SO many people are having lately like the sushi thing, there being zero consistency among support regarding it isn't something you can just wave off. There doesn't seem to be enough communication between the teams; you have this we've talked about for example, the social media team happily posting pictures of all the colored chapaa plushies when the colors being wrong were already a known issue that people were extremely frustrated about (which really felt like shoving their face into the mud especially considering how bad chapaa chase was at the time)...

[glossy dock]

What was wrong with the Chappa chase before ? I only started after

[gritty socket]

It was more competitive than the devs likely expected it to be at first

[brisk spruce]

you know the group bonus? that didnt exist. it also spawned about half as many max chapaas per game. everyone was completely on their own for their tickets

[outer atlas]

Only 100 would spawn instead of 200
The spawns were smaller so people would stand at a chapaa spawn and spam F
No one was running around and having fun
No one got extra tickets at the end only the tickets for the chapaa you caught

[glossy dock]

That doesn't sound very chase-y

[brisk spruce]

it's much better now, it actually feels right for a cozy social low-competition type of activity. there's some competition, because you can still get more tickets if you catch a lot solo, but it's not a dire necessity (for the sake of completing the event/getting the prizes. obviously everything is decorative so nothing is a true "necessity")

[gritty socket]

Yeah, the team listened to a lot of suggestions from the community, and implemented a few; IIRC people here suggested a group credit thing like it does now. IT's nice, because even if you show up late, you can just grab a chapaa, turn it in, and at least get something

[ruby flower]

Ok 👍

[outer atlas]

They closed my ticket and said its solved after they just said a developer is currently investigating my logs you best reopen that bad boy back up

[gritty socket]

I wonder if they closed it because it's being escalated to a dev?

[outer atlas]

Maybe.. I just dont want them to forget about me
Since it says solved

[brisk spruce]

especially since yours is an entirely separate problem lol...

kitsuu reminder btw. I almost forgot mine

[gritty socket]

I kind of get why, but I wish we could put a few things on the rock garden. I want to make it into a proper shrine, with candles and offerings

[brisk spruce]

it doesnt help that I put mine behind my crafters because I was too lazy to move everything around lol

[glossy dock]

Is Maji dragon in the register plushie different from the one in the ticket booth?

[brisk spruce]

yeah, different colors slightly and different sizes. here's a comparison #📷│old-palia-screenshots message

[onyx bloom]

Did you just bring an in game spat into Discord? Wow.

[coarse hearth]

I was looking for where this came from and I was disappointed

[onyx bloom]

It was like when my granddaughter makes sure her mom is within earshot before yelling at her brother, trying to get him in trouble. Nothing good ever comes of it.

[coarse hearth]

Cream, you better be writing to tell me you are sending me a proudhorn star antler

[celest maple]

i just found a stone in palia

[glossy dock]

Why did I pick blue as one of my primary colour schemes. 😂 Now I gotta buy it too. 😂

[gritty socket]

I also like blue, but I'm probably not going to be able to get it in time. There's always next time though

[glossy dock]

The smaller one is the ticket one right?

I actually don't really like blue irl. 😂 I'm more of a red, purple and pink (shocker) fan. But Idk blue looks good in the game engine to me and I wanna eventually make a water and aquarium themed mansion once I've spent all my renown on my focus.

[brisk spruce]

yeah the small one is the ticket one
I'm a blue, red, purple fan irl

[gritty socket]

I also just want a bunch of plushies for my ingame bedroom. I'm more of a fan of cool pastel colors, lately, after a while of never really thinking about what my favorite colors even were

[glossy dock]

I wish we had a pokedex style tracker in game for fishes and bugs. Cause I really do want to catch them one.

The only color that I don't like is Orange. 😂 Because orange is basically just brown but turned up to an 11.

The only orange I tolerate is Hayley Williams dyed orange hair. 😂 the only orange that matters.

[outer atlas]

i had to put mine at the front so i have walk past it all the time lol because i would just forget about it

[gritty socket]

...I resemble that remark, if you look at my icon XD To be fair, my design inspiration was 'pancakes' so...

[brisk spruce]

yellow would be my least favorite color. there's just something about it

also there's achievements that kiiiinda help you track which bugs/fish you've caught, but they're also buggy atm so... eh..

@outer atlas I'm probably gonna have to do that soon, I just didnt wanna move everything my laziness knows no bounds

[outer atlas]

you're a grandparent and you blocked me... the conspiracy thickens

[glossy dock]

Can't trust those 🍌 🍋🐤

[gritty socket]

oooh... that reminds me, I wonder if we'll ever get citrus trees

[glossy dock]

Lemon tree 😍😍 lemonade & keylime pie

[outer atlas]

lemon trees would be so cute next to my apple trees.. but only if we get more plots

[sleek fulcrum]

boo cake, down with cake, no more cake

[chrome swift]

kindly post this in #1143270926394335282

[hollow bramble]

this is what i mean by you being a contrarian 💀 you were just saying the opposite

[outer atlas]

Cream

[brisk spruce]

some people just like to keep the fire burnin

[sleek fulcrum]

are you saying that I was pro-cake previously? I think you might be confused, I'd like to know what you think I said that you interpreted as pro-cake

[onyx bloom]

You can argue both sides of an issue without being or showing to be either pro or con.

[strange oak]

does zeki ever go to the underground since the market is up?

[outer atlas]

he does 🙂 he will be at both places... 10pm-3am in the underground and 6pm-3am in the market
though some people have reported and issue where sopme npcs dont move for days

[brisk spruce]

I need strawberry plants smh. the whole cake recipe needs to be redone. those are strawberries not blueberries

I agree that citrus trees would be nice though lemon meringue pie is one of my favorites

[lyric night]

people found files for strawberry seeds in the file, so we will get them sometime soon

[brisk spruce]

ah I had heard of some being found but I completely forgot the list lol

[outer atlas]

there was some good stuff in it but i will not repost because i dont want to be banned

[lyric night]

with the amount of upcoming crops I hope we will get more soil also, like ||14|| crops more on 9 soils, nope xD

[brisk spruce]

we need more soil anyway even just a little

[gritty socket]

You know? It's odd that some recipes use wheat, and some use flour, when it would make more sense to just have flour be something that's either made during the cooking step and not an item you have to buy, or make it where you can make your own flour out of a grain, and don't need to use something like Wheat as an individual ingredient. It's just a bit inconsistent.

[brisk spruce]

I have made that exact complaint before, although shorter lol fully agree there. idk why we turn wheat directly into dough with only a rolling pin for processing in some recipes, and in others we mix flour into other stuff for batter... I make bread irl and it's bizarre to me

[gritty socket]

Yeah, I imagine it's because we don't currently have a way to process grain?

[sleek fulcrum]

If there was a machine to turn wheat into flour, what else would the machine do? It wouldn't make much sense to introduce a whole new machine just for that

[brisk spruce]

I actually see it the other way around, I don't find the point in forcing us to purchase flour from Zeki when we grow wheat. I'm not even saying it needs a machine. It's the disconnect between the two that's the bizarre part when both things should need to be processed the same before you can turn them into the batter/dough

[fading loom]

Seeders only seed, mills only mill...

[sleek fulcrum]

yes but the seeders can make seeds out of all of the crops, so the machine has like 10 recipes. A mill would only have one recipe for wheat

[fading loom]

And corn, rice, potato... there's more than one kind of flour

[gritty socket]

Nah. You can make flour out of corn or rice (EDIT: and potato). It'd be an abstraction, but a lot of things in this game are. Or, make it where the "dough" step can accept any grain, and get rid of flour as an item. It's really just a case of needing to pick one, instead of having it work half one way and half the other

[sleek fulcrum]

It could take different inputs but would still only output flour. The seed machine and preserve machine have multiple outputs that are not equal to each other, potato preserves and apple jam are not interchangeable. If a flour machine made 'corn flour' and 'wheat flour' they would just be different names for the same interchangeable ingredient, so for all intents and purposes it is only making one product

[fading loom]

Multiple inputs with a single product sounds like worm farms, which we already have

[sleek fulcrum]

Worm machines have different fertilizer outputs depending on the input, and those are not interchangeable.

[gritty socket]

Yeah, I think I'm more for getting rid of flour as an item, and making it part of the cooking steps. It would also make it where you could control for inputs in some cases. IDK, I'm fine with either process, but I just hope they pick one before launch

[brisk spruce]

what station do we make ground spices on? mixing station? let us mix wheat first to turn it into flour, then roll it into dough. this works for any other potential type of flour. there, problem solved with zero extra stations

[sleek fulcrum]

Changing flour to a baking step would add 3 more steps (and so 3 more positions) to cake party, indirect cake party buff.

[gritty socket]

It would make an extra cooking step - which the timer would need to be lengthened to account for - but that sounds like a decent idea.

[brisk spruce]

flour is an item already, just make it its own recipe where you convert wheat -> flour and nothing else. it doesnt need to be this complicated

[fading loom]

Much like grist mills irl I'd prefer to set and forget like seeders. Standing at the mixing station would be dull af

[onyx bloom]

And we could bring a cow to cake parties for the milk!

[brisk spruce]

I don't disagree but diagnul's complaining about having a machine that does a single thing even though it's stupid that we have to buy flour for cake but somehow turn wheat into pie crust just fine. all I did was offer an alternative using available stations.

[gritty socket]

Like, the way they have it isn't gamebreaking or anything... it's just a bit confusing at present. I only started really thinking about it now that I'm planning on cooking up some crab pot pies

[fading loom]

I appreciate your creativity. I am suggesting there is more utility in another crafter than any alternatives I have heard thus far.

[sleek fulcrum]

I'm not against the idea of flour being changed, and I think it makes perfect sense to have a machine process it, but I don't think it makes sense to add a machine that only has that singular purpose. For example leather isn't made on a loom but it wouldn't make logistical sense to make a tannery machine whose singular purpose is to make leather, so it was bunched in with the fabric machine.

[gritty socket]

Clearly the solution is to use the Glass Maker

[lusty light]

Make the mill not only give flour but also give pearls when we put shells in them

[west marlin]

bro i opened another 30 zeki balls and only got the same stupid two tables ive already gotten 3 times over now

[fading loom]

Using existing crafters, best option seems to add onto the seeders. They process plants, let them grind flour too.

[sleek fulcrum]

How wouild you tell the seed machine to make flour out of the wheat instead of making wheat seeds?

[brisk spruce]

the glass maker already feels useless to me as is, just give me a damn mill and give it recipes for multiple types of flour

[gritty socket]

I mean, they can always add more things to do with it. My thought would be gem polishing, if/when we get gems

[fading loom]

Idk just spit balling. As I've stated I'm in favor of a different crafter

[torn sphinx]

Anyone experiencing headless T-posing?

[onyx bloom]

That has been a thing for forever

[viscid path]

Hey guys, is there anyone else who can't even log in to the game?:)) I keep getting this "Unable to connect: Client travel experienced failure. Please try again." error message for 3-4 days already, but today it became worse, client is loading for such a long time like 5 mins average, then crashes. Any solutions? I reinstalled Palia but still.....

[gritty socket]

Not lately, except briefly on load of a new zone... though I did see someone zooming about unloaded during Chapaa Chase an hour ago

[torn sphinx]

Yea, I've never had the issue but my friend is plagued with it lol

[onyx bloom]

Is there an error code? This would probably be better to ask in #💻│tech-help Lots of smart people hang out there

[outer atlas]

yes... but whatever you do... dont visit a wardrobe while tposing because it will change your characters appearance and gender
https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1149067859046182913

[sleek fulcrum]

If they are going to add new single purpose machines then I hope we get a smoker so I can make some 12 hour sernuk brisket

[steep idol]

[gritty socket]

More specifically, it resets your player model to a default. And since we currently don't have ways to change base level appearance (it's supposed to be coming), you're stuck with it then.

...I just got jumpscared by my Chapaa Pillow. While precision placing it while standing on my bed, as soon as I found a spot where it couldn't place, the camera positioning just zoomed right on into it. It was great. Got it put where I wanted it, though

[dense ermine]

I did that once just after the game was released in open beta. For whatever reason it reverted after a loading screen.

[gritty socket]

hmm. Is it me, or is the Fine Axe a lot darker than the other tools? It's almost impossible to make out the model detail (TBH, this may be more of a lighting thing)

[hollow tree]

Is there a looking for group thread for cooking parties? I don’t see one 👀

[gritty socket]

Ok, yeah, it's just that it takes shadows really harshly

[onyx bloom]

!LFGparty

[opal cypress]

How-To: Use the LFG-Parties Forum

1️⃣ How to view the forum
Head on over to id:browse to make sure you have it checked as a channel showing up on your sidebar!

You will also need the LFG role to create any new posts in the forum. Please understand this is to keep things organized.

2️⃣ How to participate in an existing thread
You can view all the active threads in the forum. Feel free to join any that have the "Spots open!" tag. (Note: tags are self-organized by the thread-maker, so they might not be accurate). You can click into the thread and send a message!

You can also use the tags found at the top of the forum to filter what posts you see, or the search bar itself.

3️⃣ How to create a new thread
Make sure you have the LFG role! You can obtain this by heading on over to id:customize and finding the question that asks which channels you want to join.

This will grant you the needed role, then you can now make a thread in the forum! As a good party host, please make sure to be accurate and informative in your post, especially with your tags as this is how other players can find the right party to join in. Thanks!

[hollow bramble]

omg i downloaded the life tragedy addon for the sims 4 and jason keeps walking around the lots and killing people 💀 unhinged

[onyx bloom]

That doesn't seem cozy

[dense ermine]

Might be cozy for Jason.

[outer atlas]

you can find cake parties here #1143270926394335282
also If you are unable to type in LFG you'll need to grab the LFG role in id:customize
You can also right-click the Palia server and put a checkmark on the "Show All Channels" option if you haven't and wish to do so

@dull marten flowtrees can only spawn if their spawn is free so its best to gather up a group or solo and cut down areas of normal tress so then the flowtress have a chance to spawn

(omg i read your comment wrong! im so sorry i thought you said how to farm for flow trees lol so sorry)

[dull marten]

anyone down to farm for flow trees?

[hollow tree]

Thank you so much

[dense musk]

I wish the volume settings were different. I have it set at 0.1 and it's still too loud for me, but if I turn it down anymore, it's off. I think there should be more range in the volume settings. It would be really helpful for folks who get overstimulated easily.

[dense ermine]

Have you tried opening Volume Mixer and adjusting the volume there?

[merry palm]

Yeah i think we have more than enough volume options both in palia and on our computers

[deft violet]

I hope one day we get to have windows like hers.

[dense musk]

No, I haven't. Is that in the game?

[merry palm]

Thats on your computer, usually hidden by the carrot at the bottom right on your computer taskbar next to the clock.

[dense musk]

Thank you!

[pure trail]

Do we know if the devs are aware of apple tree bug where boost harvest fert isnt working? Just dont wanna report a bug thats known

[analog zenith]

It's closed now but you can check the #1135683325227446393 section

[glass plaza]

how do i activate nai'os first romance quest? i talked to him nothing and got no mail

[outer atlas]

you may have to wait a day 😄 6am usually

[glass plaza]

in game day?

[steep idol]

yeh, either 6am or 6pm

[outer atlas]

Creams status

[steep idol]

its better than 'fish panik'

[chrome swift]

I have exactly 432 reels. None of them are sushi

[outer atlas]

I wonder what # velran is at now with sushi

Omg stop it! The think fish emote! I need

[chrome swift]

AHAHA here you go~

[warm python]

Fish fear us
Sushi hates us

[steep idol]

Hmm... yes... sushi hates us

[chrome swift]

I'm coming for that sushi

[outer atlas]

[steep idol]

feel like this is you guys when someone mentions sushi

[warm python]

So how have you cuties been doin this evening while I've been out

[onyx bloom]

It was quiet

[outer atlas]

Unblock me and maybe we can have a conversation so it isn't quiet

@warm python I see you're lighting fires in general again

[steep idol]

Relika isn't the only one lighting fires

[glass plaza]

where do u get oily anchovys?

[outer atlas]

Bahari bay rivers with normal worms
(Tamalas pond is bugged and acts like a river also)

[raw jungle]

hey discussions, what're we discussing

[glass plaza]

ahh ty ive been randoming fishing and was confusede

[raw jungle]

everyone must be hustling cake parties tonight

[warm python]

I didn't realize the phrase "optional minimap" was so controversial LMAO that's why I usually stick here

[outer atlas]

Can confirm I am in a cake party while watching shrek
And getting people blocked for talking to me?

[analog zenith]

Some people just try really hard to argue with other people even if they don't really have anything to argue about

[narrow eagle]

Dang anyone else really enjoy making sushi all the time? Just a really fun recipe to have

[onyx bloom]

I think the cake thing has a different part of the population on edge lately.

[dense ermine]

How dare you suggest an exploration game with a map have a feature where you don't have to continuously open your map to see where you are going.

[steep idol]

yeah i really love having the sushi recipe

[warm python]

I'm just the worst!!!

[onyx bloom]

She wasn't even advocating for it. She just interjected that making optional should be ok. Instant side eyes in her direction.

[warm python]

The fact that the immediate reaction was "Yeah but what if they put in a machine gun" like okay I'm out lol

[steep idol]

No way someone actually said that T_T

[analog zenith]

Quiet you lol

[raw jungle]

okay but I gotta say that bulbasaur emote is adorable

omg cuteness overload hnnnnnnngh

[dense ermine]

The reactions in general are kneejerk at best. It's like anyone who suggests something is hit with the same broad brush that people complaining or outright trolling are. Don't like the UI? Here is why you're wrong. Don't like a certain bug? It's in beta !

[outer atlas]

I read the whole thing when it was going down and I just couldn't... my eyes were blinking but couldn't react

[onyx bloom]

I was told I shouldn't complain because I mentioned a bug. I should be grateful the game exists.

[raw jungle]

soooo frustrating how complaints are silenced so much.

[outer atlas]

Damn wish I could react and sympathise with you but im just so toxic you know

Its the same for the cash shop.. we don't hate it... but a lot of people think we just complain and hate it

[steep idol]

I sympathise with you

[dense ermine]

I do understand why they're quick to counter them because it is astounding the number of bad actors that come in specifically to stir the pot, but... dude they know us. Some of them post in this channel and still it's like we're just run of the mill randos.

[merry palm]

A lot of complaints are definitely bad actors and basically copy paste.

We had several people say "this game sucks its dead s6 is just money grubbers and im never playing palia but im gunna stay in the discord server"

[dense ermine]

Particularly the "cash shop is a scam", "but but 30-50 mil budget", and the typical "bad game, bad devs" trolls.

[onyx bloom]

Clipping was a big one today, I noticed

[brisk spruce]

I don't think desiring a minimap, even from a random unrecognized user, can be justified as assuming they're a bad actor though... everyone should actually read complaints before brushing them off imo, otherwise just ignore them outright

[warm python]

Yeah, silly stuff like comparing an optional minimap to optional machine guns, huh?

[gritty socket]

Yeah, those are the sort of people who I'm just so tired of, whether here or in general. If I've seemed snippier lately, that's why

[merry palm]

See? Bad actors out of the woodwork. No one mentioned minimap here

[worn snow]

that was so strange to me...

[warm python]

Guess I'd better take some more acting classes before my next audition then

[dense ermine]

Minimap should be forced, not optional. Not able to be moved. Also we need guns to one shot sernuk.

[raw jungle]

ye but a lot of us that are like, "cash shops needs to be improved, here's why" got our hands slapped just as much as them. I literally responded to someone asking why the complaint, and I explained in thorough detail, and had three people jump on me -_- and it's like... that wasn't an invitation to debate, let alone a comment that deserved to be squished. it was an explanation to this one person asking.

[worn snow]

i also think the dismissal of people u dont like as "bad actors" is lazy, but yk

[outer atlas]

It was mentioned earlier

[merry palm]

I mean you have two people pop up and try to pick a fight over a discussion that already ended while also making up a strawman so thats kinda a bad actor in my book dude.

[onyx bloom]

That is specifically in relation to people that seem to suddenly start parroting the same complaint. It happens regularly, here.

[brisk spruce]

You must be referring to yourself because I actually read the conversation #💬│palia-discussions message

[gritty socket]

I mean, I'm not doing that. It's just that... Ask yourself. What does "This game sucks and is a scam" - which I have seen almost verbatim here before - add to tbe conversation?

[raw jungle]

heck. (I love your name btw)

[outer atlas]

Oh thats why you blocked me? I complained too much about my damn wallpaper with my hallways

Let me put my wallpaper back up please and thanks s6

[dense ermine]

Oh no. You aren't getting away with that one. There ARE people who come in specifically to stir up drama and do so efficiently. Has nothing to do with not liking them, but their tactics are known and simple to replicate. Want a demonstration? It's exceedingly easy as the people in general are simple to bait.

[worn snow]

no i wasnt referring to u!! sorry i was talking ab the other person

[merry palm]

Not really, i discussed this in general so its just someone running over to discussions chat to whine after about it afterwards. Now you two are trying to pick a fight about it again by switching channels?

[brisk spruce]

I was not in #💬│palia-general, I hang out here. I responded to what was posted here.

Also, referring to specific people, especially regular users of the channel as "bad actors" is not "discussing the idea", it's discussing people

[raw jungle]

pfffff I have one wall of one room, wisteria wallpaper. I changed out that wallpaper twice, and completely removed it. it doesn't have a wallpaper to remove and it still shows wisteria
at least the wisteria is pretty, but it doesn't go with that room anymore XD

[warm python]

Nah he's talking about me because I mentioned the machine gun stuff here since this is where I hang out lol. I mean it doesn't bother me, I'm just amused

[worn snow]

man that's so assumptive of what i was saying when i was referring to the person who was mad at us for talking about minimaps. 🧍🏻‍♀️ im not trying to "get away" with anything, pls chill out it is indeed just a game.

[merry palm]

Well of course, the bad actor thing comes after the conversation once you have a reason to consider em a bad actor. You dont brand someone as that from the get go

[gritty socket]

It happens here too, and it's tiring.

[gleaming owl]

Has there been any chatter if anything will be done regarding renown and what it will be used for after you max your shrines and writs out?

[warm python]

No word atm

[dense ermine]

Just a game? This isn't just a game... this is a beta. This is a testbed full of potential and we aren't mere players. We're testers for the devs' grand design! It is an honor, and one that should not be taken lightly. They even thanked us with palcats... do you not see the generousity of the devs?

||I'm joking, it's chill, enjoy the game <3||

[west marlin]

I wouldn't call them bad actors just because they aren't happy players... They're are very few if any legitimate trolls in the chat our chat. General on the other hand seems to attract people who only want to say they hate the game in leave after that, and I'm not sure if they're trolls but they sure don't stick around to stir things up lol

I saw someone in general last night getting called a troll for saying there should be combat 🙄 all too often people mistake differed opinions for a problem and not a discussion

[brisk spruce]

That still does not follow "discuss the idea, not the people" so you should reconsider calling specific people bad actors. Regular members here are generally not bad actors. Disagreeing with people does not make someone a bad actor. Moving a conversation that you would like to continue into #💬│palia-discussions, where it belongs, does not make you a bad actor even if no one else follows.

[worn snow]

im horrible at tone 🙁 garfield is this /j or /srs 😰😰

oh u clarified omg thanks

[outer atlas]

Cream

[merry palm]

Well yeah they're a bad actor because they dont discuss the idea.

Relika is acting this way now because i said "saying something is optional to handwave conplaints isnt a good argument" in general so now they're going on about machineguns. They havent addresses that one point at all.

[warm python]

Cream

Keoul I said I didn't want to discuss this with you anymore

[worn snow]

this is what i was trying to say, i didnt mean tht trolls dont exist or anything, just that i (someone who usually lurks) dont think that these members who i see a lot r some of them.

[gritty socket]

Eh, I've seen a few people still whip out 'dead game' or 'lazy devs' sort of rhetoric lately... which I'd rather not see. It's not something you can really 'discuss', after all. More 'scream into the void' XD

[chrome swift]

My gentle Palians, I think it's time I leave this gentle reminder of Community Guideline 1: Respect and kindness above all. We respect healthy debate, but we will not tolerate argumentative discourse. If you find a discussion unproductive or unkind, please know that it's alright to disengage and find something else to do in the meantime. Remember, discuss the idea, not each other.

[dense ermine]

If we are to keep with that perhaps bad actor is a bad descriptor. People posting in bad faith is an issue. Framing it that way presents their actions as the issue and not the person as the issue.

[onyx bloom]

I'm done here. Whenever a conversation starts, someone shows up stirs the pot then here comes the green people.

[worn snow]

yeah ig when ppl say "bad actor" i assume they mean "troll"-- which maybe isnt what everyone means there

[merry palm]

Im talking to kali not you relika 🙃

[gritty socket]

Yeah. It's better to look at it as bad faith vs good faith arguments. I try to stick to the latter - key word being 'try'

[outer atlas]

We love and respect the "green people" they're called moderator's even though you cant see this message but they do an amazing job here looking after 300k+ people
🐢

[worn snow]

i do have a question, does traveling get easier later game? i have (slight spoiler? idk) ||the glider|| and stuff but do we get any speed boosts or anything? i'm incredibly lazy in all video games so i could be a baby but i do find moving around a little annoying (especially, not to bring up an old debate, sans ||machine guns minimap||.)

[dense ermine]

But my main point stands. General is highly reactionary, almost to an absurd degree, over anything that isn't 100% organic free range positive vibes. That is an issue in and of itself.

[rain carbon]

Don't make me post the cursed Pineapple Pizza GIF

[west marlin]

Even if they said that - which when I search those terms it's more people using them in your context then actually using them in a negative one - they'd still not be trolls or bad actors.... Mods have made it clear players are allowed to express their opinion even if it's not a super positive one.

Like I hate to break it to you guys but the prime time trolling is dead and gone, discord conversation is cooled off, very little actual trolling activity left. Most of the people who legitimately hatred the game aren't here any more.

General gets what few actual trolls pop by but what I see more often then not is one person making a mildly disagreeable statement and getting picked on by a dozen others for not being cozy enough 😂

[warm python]

Bring in the true chaos

[gritty socket]

There's fast travel. I'd personally love mounts eventually, especially if we get larger zones in future

[brisk spruce]

@merry palm Relika frequently posts in here in good faith. Calling someone a bad actor does imply that they're always like that so there's no legitimate reason to call Relika a bad actor.

I wasn't part of the conversation in #💬│palia-general and I don't give a hoot about the conversation in #💬│palia-general. But you know what I do want? A minimap. And we've discussed minimaps in this channel before. Now bring on the minimaps!
P.S. Sorry this took to long to type, I was on my phone and it is dying. I moved now because it made me mad

[dense ermine]

That fish emote is glorious.

[outer atlas]

Turtle!🐢 can we atleast get a turtle sticker please?💚

[west marlin]

Like literally the other night general was up in arms cause some guy asked for combat, as if the palia team hasn't said it's a possibility or something 😂 no one cared to listen to the quotes from S6 and instead just got their pitch forks out cuz buddy wanted something that wasn't cozy enough

[steep idol]

Turtle My sleep schedule is finally fluffed up enough

[worn snow]

i feel like the palia discord would do well with "salty" and "sweet" channels-- i.e. one for ranting and one for gushing. esp bc i do totally get wanting to gush ab ur favorite game, and wanting to protect it like its a baby, and all that (i have a particular popstar i feel that way about...) but a lot of ppl also want to criticize stuff. neither feelings r bad at all, but they do tend to butt heads s lot idk

[chrome swift]

I am going to leave you guys with a gentle re-

[warm python]

Oh no cream broke

[steep idol]

I think the sushi got to cream

[worn snow]

is it just the fast travel to ur house or am i missing something?

[west marlin]

Idk if I can get behind that idea lol Listening to alternative opinions and ideas and thoughts that are different from your own is a good thing tho and very few people, especially now this deep into the launch, are suggesting things, or being critical without legitimately caring about the game

[brisk spruce]

oh no. I read this and looked up at the turtle sticker and now it looks like very strange sushi to me 😨

[gritty socket]

You are! You can go to any stable (marked with a horseshoe) and teleport to other ones for a modest fee

[worn snow]

how did i miss this........?????

[dense ermine]

Merge general and discussions for one day.

[west marlin]

What kind of sushi are you eating my dude

[brisk spruce]

speaking of the stables, give me one in my house! I want to go straight from home to bahari bay 😭

@west marlin I think the fishing has gotten to me... 900 worms in

[gritty socket]

I forget if there's a pop up the first time you go near a stable. If not, there should be

[merry palm]

There is absolutely a legitimate reason when you discuss a topic in general then run away to discuss it in discussion after saying several times "i dont want to discuss this anymore"

You're also missing context from general which you acknowledge so obviously that gap in knowledge changes your point of view

[worn snow]

yes-- but i think it's okay to want to be happy ab ur favorite game even if its imperfect. and just wanna gush about stuff sometimes, and not hear people criticizing stuff. like, everyone could see both channels, just u could hang out in one or the other depending on ur mood.

[outer atlas]

Some people did ask for pvp 1 day only pvp

[gritty socket]

@brisk spruce : You could gate it behind a Ranching skill, get a quest for your very own Riffroc

@worn snow : may I suggest #🍵│reth’s-kitchen ? It's good vibes more often than not

[merry palm]

The chat cd in chill is a nightmare tho

[warm python]

Is this where we brandish the blockglock at you

[west marlin]

Idk why you're still going on about this when it's become personal and that's against the rules.

@worn snow I mean right now the entire discord is filled with channels that only allow cozy vibes it's really easy to engage in that content, easier then to engage in any discussions

[brisk spruce]

I would totally take it merged with a ranching skill. if it doesn't get added within the next month that will be the only way I'll accept it anymore (just a joke, I just really want ranching)

[gritty socket]

I mean, people complain about the game in Cafe at times too, believe it or not... it's just that the channel culture is less... volitile?

[worn snow]

i agree, i just think it might b helpful to explicitly say this one's for positivity this one's for criticism just so everyone can have what they want

@gritty socket oh dw, im good!! i just wanted to spitball something ive seen in some like, subreddits n stuff

[dense ermine]

They can and should add a minimap in game. It can and should be optional. It does not need to be moveable or customizable beyond that. If you like it use it. If you don't like it then do not use it. The benefits it would give to people outweigh the risk of annoying others with an optional toggle in their settings menu.

[west marlin]

They really should label general and discussion that way @worn snow lbh lol

I find general kind of dull and the rest of the channels have such long cds it's kinda like you're just talking to yourself 😂

[brisk spruce]

This is also super common in a lot of games, including it being toggleable, so it's not even out of any realm of possibility other than what S6 wants in their own game.

[covert cairn]

It would be soooo awesome to be able to see what items we need for the temple bundles in the lil tab screen where the quests are so I can quit accidentally selling stuff I need to turn in lolol

[worn snow]

i agree, esp since ppl rlly do get v reactionary in general.

[outer atlas]

I personally put my items from the bundles into the locked storage so I don't sell or use them
i also have this on hand to make sure https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Bundles

[west marlin]

I don't disagree I just think the fact that S6 has never commented on the many requests for maps makes it pretty clearly that they're sticking to their artistic descion to not use one

@worn snow id rather people who have something controversial to say, come here, because for the most part they won't be talked down to for it. And general can continue an uninterrupted stream of 'who is the best boy'

[gritty socket]

@brisk spruce I want Ormuus, I want Pekis, I want to not have to pay Zeki

@dense ermine Pushing back on this slightly for the sake of discussion; where would they put it without over-cluttering the UI? Especially considering Switch users in the future?

[covert cairn]

yeah but I have to run back to the temple everytime I want to check and see what the bundles are! I guess I shall just have to google it and keep that pulled up on the side.

[worn snow]

have it be a tool, maybe? like u pull it out like ur hoe or fishing rod or smth

[dense ermine]

You get a detailed day/night cycle clock or a minimap. Digital clock stays regardless.

[west marlin]

Yeah the big ugly day/night tracker could be done away with.

[covert cairn]

Also the limited storage is affecting my soul as a professional foraging hoarder How am I supposed to live, laugh, and love in these conditions!?

[brisk spruce]

Right?? Let me live my self-sustaining dreams

Agreed with the day/night tracker swapping places with the minimap while keeping the digital clock if it were an option. I have a hard time seeing the day/night tracker in a glance anyway (colors issue) so I never use it as is, I would prefer a mini map there

[west marlin]

I think the reason they won't bother is with the map size and npc clutter you would rarely get any additional information out of the mini map that you don't get out of the full map and the compass. Like if you took a smaller version of your local area of the map standing in town mid day, you'd see nothing but npc icons lol

[warm python]

Yeah I doubt they'll add it in but hey a girl can dream

[pure trail]

Id be happy with the map being open and becomes transparent as you walk, so I can use that instead.

[dense ermine]

I guess you can just put nav markers on the map for yourself and use the compass as well yeah?

[brisk spruce]

it would have helped me learn the maps faster. it took me a lot longer than normal just to figure out a general sense of direction but the big map is too hard to use while moving so that's a problem for me as an alternative

[west marlin]

I don't think it's a bad idea lots of people ask for it, I just fear that with the lack of reply from S6 about it, it's unlikely.

THEN AGAIN who the heck was asking for an obstacle course so lol who knows

[gritty socket]

Yeah. And it works pretty well! If you nav marker a villager, it tracks them.

[brisk spruce]

Because of the way the fire temple was laid out, I still think the obstacle course is likely to help test for something in the future. Maybe another temple, maybe something else.
Could be wrong though

[west marlin]

I could tell they were really surprised by the Chappa chase anger, with how meek and timidly they introduced the idea tho "ohhh don't worry you don't have to do it no prizes just fun haha please don't be mad"

so I don't think think it will until they are sure people won't riot

[dense ermine]

Honestly I have no idea. Most have been asking for bug fixes to issues that have been around for a while. Glad they finally got around to fixing the cake bug that printed money. ||For legal reasons that last bit was a joke.||

[brisk spruce]

Have you seen how many changes they make that people riot about? I'm not sure that actually matters to them for initial releases of things instead of just attempting to smooth things over afterward lol

[gritty socket]

People will always complain about changes in a MMO. Sometimes the complaints are even warranted! XD

[west marlin]

Lol yeah, I was making good money without them but I'm built different. 💪 I hope it's not too bad that people don't do cake parties anymore. It's really the only meaningful community experience. Exceot maybe for flow tree farming but there was something unique about the experience of someone setting up a really cute baking area and showing it off to 15 other people that will be a shame to see gone.

@brisk spruce yeah but even the 'I love this game S6 never makes any mistakes' fans were peeved about the Chappa chase

[dense ermine]

My main fear is all the potential nerfs around it. Glow worm farms, gardening, possibly even bug catching could all be effected given how they decide to nerf it. Edit: Not announcing how they are nerfing it does not sit well with me. I don't like surprises.

[outer atlas]

if they nerf my apples

[tender abyss]

I haven't seen this furniture recipe? Is it real?

[west marlin]

Yeah that's what I hate about Nerfing things that only the top ends players are making bank off of, it often really only hurts the casual players.

Like suddenly everyone's apples are worthless 🙄

That's why I thought they were going to be more tactful about it, but we'll see

[brisk spruce]

Pretty much I'd say they're generally all warranted as feedback though, the devs can decide how or if the feedback changes anything (based on positive vs negative comments vs intent)

[gritty socket]

It's not like cake parties were a raid boss or anything though. i'm given to understand there's a relatively low barrier to entry to parties, so it could spread quickly through the community as the way to make money

[west marlin]

I fail to see a problem with making the only community focused activity in the community focused game accessible and profitable...

[junior wasp]

I've been looking for fire root to make chili oil dumplings, and I'm just about convinced that they are extinct now

[twilit sequoia]

I'm a casual player who progresses very slowly. I generally only hear about the good money making tips when it's been nerfed. I'm constantly out of gold...

[lofty coral]

anybopdy have some garden planner screenshots that are really good for making money??

[dense ermine]

Well... given their options and working within game mechanics a nerf to the price of the ingredients is on the table. Changing the recipe to limit slots people can cook in is also a possibility. To eliminate more gold out of the economy a silk nerf potentially could happen.

[gritty socket]

That's another less talked about issue with cake being too good. Resource drain because everyone wants just those ingredients

[outer atlas]

the little table and chair are not in the game but everything else is ravenwood and moonstruck
the blue thing on the shelf is a friend 3 reward from book lady caleri

[west marlin]

As long as there's no anti cheat and at most a pitiful 3 day ban for downloading a cheat engine that lets you cap goal with one button press, I think any efforts to balance the economy is pretty moot and usually only burns casual players as people who mini max will either find a new way to create the same gold value or quit because the game is suddenly too slow and stale for them

[junior wasp]

Once you unlock glow worms, build a bunch of worm makers. Put the fastgro fertilizer in the shipping box, fish in your pond at using glow worms and sell those too

[lofty coral]

people using cheats doesnt affect you at all. let them unlock everything and get bored and leave the game while the rest of us have fun and enjoy it

[sleek fulcrum]

It certainly affects other players when they cheat during the chapaa chase.

[west marlin]

People cheering for the cake nerf are gonna be really surprised Pikachu face to find out that it'll probably hurt them too. But we'll see what they do.

I wouldn't be mad if they made it so oven duty didn't get a cake and you had to have the recipe to make it tbh that would be fair and not hurt anyone who isn't making cakes and cut down on free rides for newbies

But anything else will possibly nerf all recipes with those ingridents and farming and foraging and no one's gonna be happy then

[twilit sequoia]

I'm still trying to figure out how to use bait. Did I miss a tutorial?

[lofty coral]

how do they even cheat in that lol???

[merry palm]

Right click with fishing rod equipped

[limpid hamlet]

They should just nerf the number of people on a plot... just a group and not 15 people.

[tender abyss]

make a dowsing rod. It's one of the few things it detects 🙂

[sleek fulcrum]

I don't know the precise details of it but it allows them to grab chapaa at seemingly any distance so they can just stand next to the pen and grab chapaa that are 50 feet away repeatedly and getting 70+ chapaa in one round. There are videos of it happening,

[outer atlas]

https://streamable.com/zmerq6 this is how they cheated
this is not me dont ban me i am just a humble little girl

[west marlin]

Easily

[lofty coral]

WOW ive never ran into that lol. thats insane. ive bought every item from chappa chase and never seen this

[twilit sequoia]

Thanks. Wish I could just right click on the worm in my inventory (without needing fishing rod equiped), it works for everything else that way.

[junior wasp]

I wish I could fine-tune it to filter out morels!

[merry palm]

The same thing happens for arrows and smoke bomb type so be wary of that too

[tender abyss]

omg! I was wondering how ppl would come up behind me & take it right out of my hands! @junior wasp it doesn't detect morels only brightshrooms

[west marlin]

They're usually smart enough not to do this, this guy was just demonstrating the cheat tool.

Because S6 has no anti cheat the only way to get banned is to get reported so it's likely you'll never see people cheating unless they're bad at it

[sleek fulcrum]

The order of the worms or arrows in your inventory determines which one is the "default", so you can rearrange them if you want

[warm python]

We talking about butt chapaas again? /looks at the image posted

[gritty socket]

It's worth mentioning that in a majority of cases, you're looking at latency, not cheats

[west marlin]

Yeah even on the west coast the latency sucks
I'd guess it's lag 9/10 times over cheating

[analog zenith]

Yep. Latency looks a lot like hax

[warm python]

Yeah def most of the time it's latency but they apparently just updated the main cheat program to have the butt chapaa option a few days ago according to That Forum

[gritty socket]

The number of people cheating in this game is proportionately small. It's also worth remembering that, even if S6 adds stuff to catch cheaters, it's not going to be mentioned in patch notes; that'd be giving the game away

[outer atlas]

i live in australia... my whole life is a latency

[clear lintel]

Yall, is there a way to tell how many hours I have in Palia?

[west marlin]

Yeah but the cheater fourm would know instantly. They data mine ever update entirely and update the tools each time. From my understanding anticheat systems are very obvious to cheaters lol

[gritty socket]

There's a reason every game has cheaters; it's an arms race

[raw jungle]

I'd heard that task manager should have that info, but I don't see Palia listed for mine.

[west marlin]

Yeah shocked that S6 didn't have the industry knowledge to know to not build their game without server side validation, it's basically a free for all with what the cheaters have access to

[lofty coral]

whats the best focus food after the patch? is meaty stir fry still the go to?

[merry palm]

The nerf for cakes is probably money related so id say still cakes for "the best"

[tender abyss]

So is there some reason that every server I try someone is standing where the spice sprouts grow waiting to pick them all? is this a thing now? I hate camping so much

[remote dune]

I did not know you could wallpaper the outside of your house

[lofty coral]

you can harvest them even if they get them though?

[sleek fulcrum]

it might be an unintended side effect of nerfing preserves focus, more people are cooking the "cheap" meals of which many use spice sprouts

[raw jungle]

are they actually, or did they go afk? I've been afk in that field a time or two ^^;

[brisk spruce]

I also randomly afk while foraging lol can't say I've ever seen someone standing still waiting for spice sprout respawns, it spawns in two fields and usually one of them is respawning when I look

[tender abyss]

not if I'm just comign back from logging in also it seems to be the same acct or maybe I'm not able to change servers by logging out & in - also I believe once they are picked, they despawn soon after

[raw jungle]

fair... I'm honestly surprised they're camping that, that sprout is so easy to get

[lofty coral]

^^^

[outer atlas]

logging out and in does change servers but you can be unlucky and get the same server

[tender abyss]

right? usually - but not today - I think it has something to do with them telling ppl to do their cooking this weekend

[brisk spruce]

they only said that for cake though, didn't they? cake doesnt use spice sprouts

[raw jungle]

that's what I was thinking, figured I was missing something though ^^;

[sleek fulcrum]

so do you think the new cake recipe is going to require 1 dari clove or 3?

[outer atlas]

one heartdrop lily as a topper

[tender abyss]

I can't think of another reason - maybe someone's paranoid LOL if they're going to require dari for cakes I hope they make them less rare

[brisk spruce]

honestly no desire to make real predictions over whatever change they're making.
also love that Aylee has joined the decorative heartdrop lily bandwagon

[dense ermine]

It'd be better if more cooks meant more output with the same ingredient cost for everyone. Probably not the best way to fix the issue though admittedly.

[tender abyss]

honestly, I don't plan to focus on cooking until I can do batch cooking

[sleek fulcrum]

apple jam best food

[gritty socket]

I doubt we're getting a batch cooking option other than maybe campfire food

[brisk spruce]

I think the only reason campfire cooking has a chance of it is because it has no minigames and therefor functions similarly to the workbench. will be interesting to find out if they do go for it 👀

[gritty socket]

And honestly, time management wise, if you really want to make campfire food in bulk, you're better off just making multiple campfires and bouncing between them

[sleek fulcrum]

the campfire does have cooking times that vary based on the recipe though, batch cooking would eliminate that

[gritty socket]

Unless each item is queued like a crafter, but that won't automate well without changing a lot... like the UI, for starters

[wintry bay]

but what if i was new in the game, and i wanted to make a bunch of mushrooms... i dont want to wasted necessary resources on making a bunch of campfires

[tender abyss]

REgardless, cooking needs an overhaul b/c it's downright tedious

[sleek fulcrum]

2 campfires works out well

[brisk spruce]

I mean, the cook time for the campfire can be increased depending on how many you're making, it doesn't necessarily need a queue.
Secondly, the campfire also doesn't allow burning so there's really no reason it needs to be treated any differently than the animation for crafting at the workbench. It already doesn't function like the other food stations do.
(I could see it going in the direction of swapping the UI for the hopper style UI though)

[sleek fulcrum]

it probably wouldnt be too much work to turn the campfire into a typical crafting machine, some of the recipe that take multiple ingredient might need to be moved to the crafting table or oven, like the fishing drink

[merry palm]

They should move fishermen brew off the campfire tbh

[gritty socket]

Thing is, if they were to make campfires in the world usable, then suddenly fisherman's brew and weak focus foods have a use to be craftable at campfires

[sleek fulcrum]

maybe they could introduce an upgrade to the campfire, like a brick grill

[merry palm]

Sounds like a stove with extra steps

[brisk spruce]

every time I run past one out in the fields it kinda irks me that they arent functional, even if I don't have anything to cook at that moment... lol

[sleek fulcrum]

the stove is a completely different ui and crafting process though

[gritty socket]

Like usually you outlevel campfire food hilariously quickly... but if it was something I could make while doing something else, it would be appealing. Maybe the reason it isnt has something to do with keeping the cooking clientside so you wouldn't have to wait if someone's using it?

[brisk spruce]

so much else is already client side I think it's more likely that they either had an odd bug when trying it, or didn't think people would want it, or just haven't gotten around to it yet (they were likely placed by environmental artists before the UI was functional)

[dense ermine]

We need an ice cream machine.

[sleek fulcrum]

down with cake parties, up with soft serve ice cream cone parties

[merry palm]

Inb4 icecream cakes

[dense ermine]

It'd be a great way to process preserves into something more useful with an extra step and a couple more ingredients. Like cooking, but not boring and potentially automated like preserves.

[brisk spruce]

oh man... I need a new cake recipe. I need carrot cake. dumbed down one or two layer

[merry jungle]

no 4

[warm python]

Every baker must bring a heartdrop lily

[gritty socket]

I'd love breads. Just simple loaves of bread. Or... oooh, cornbread

[junior wasp]

We have onions. All we need is black-eyed peas

[dense ermine]

And a chili recipe if we don't have one already.

[merry palm]

Stuffed chilli peppers?

[junior wasp]

oh shoot. Sernuk chili. Since we don't have beans, we don't have to worry about people ruining their chili

[dense ermine]

We'd have to have a recipe with beans and a recipe without. Both equally good for focus with text in the tooltip about humans once upon a time disagreeing whether or not beans had a place in chili.

[brisk spruce]

this is the way. in-game chili war

[junior wasp]

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Stuffed_Phoenixfire_Pepper Speaking of which, are 4 pepper bushes in the garden overkill? I skipped apples and blueberries this time

[merry palm]

Probably, i think apples gives better cash

[glass plaza]

is nai'o broken? i reached lvl 3 romance and no quest has shown for over a day

[thick sundial]

I wish this game was like not totally busted I got flowers from Jina from a quest and then I put them down and they disappeared and now they are gone 🙂 That is great

[junior wasp]

Heckla was jealous and stole them

[thick sundial]

It was for the picnic quest and then she insulted me by saying Hekla made her lunch instead and now I don’t even get a reward - this is off the rails I got screwed twice bro

[dense ermine]

Look, you don't understand. This game is in beta. The glorious devs have allowed us to share in their vision, and we should be thankful they're allowing us to even be here. Remember we're not just players but also testers as well and we should expect bugs. Even horrible game breaking bugs that make no logical sense and completely destroy immersion that could have simply been avoided by making quest objects unable to be placed. You have to understand this is a new company and give them time to work it all out. Better things are on the horizon, promise.

[simple violet]

unblock vic

[thick sundial]

@dense ermine hurt fr fr

[dense ermine]

My block list is and has been empty for around 2 years now. Genuinely confused.

[simple violet]

nvm we think its glitched

[thick sundial]

I can’t see your message above it’s not visible to me but I can see this one - I’m shadowbanned fr

[dense ermine]

Staring at seed maker, chest interface opens... wut?

[junior wasp]

If this mutant cross between a chapaa and a Ferengi thinks I'm going to give him a gold bar for his infernal and obviously illegal machine, he's nuts

[gritty socket]

They're not gone, just not visible. If you grab the room it's in and store it, it'll grab all the items in the room as well. Then just keep it in storage till it's fixed

[thick sundial]

Yeah I did try to grab it and its just gone - there is no item there that I can grab and its invisible. Also maybe I do not want to take down my entire kitchen I spent time decorating just to get a tiny flower pot that doesnt have a texture.

[merry palm]

Have you left your house and come back?

[gritty socket]

Well, that's valid, but then you are going to have to wait till they fix it

[neat marlin]

I couldn't even place it down even if I tried

[thick sundial]

Maybe by 2050 if the world is even still here by then

[dense ermine]

Awfully optimistic. Both that it will get fixed and that civilization will be around by then.

[thick sundial]

I wonder if I’ll be able to decline friend requests soon

[neat marlin]

I accept them then yeet them~

[dense ermine]

At this point I'm losing track of all the workarounds we have to remember just to keep the experience in game functional. Edit: my ultimate workaround is just gardening and running loops around Bahari.

[outer atlas]

I also couldn't place mine down... I would press place and It doesn't even show up lol... stays in storage

[pseudo thistle]

Finally bought the Well 😄

Farming level 55 in case anyone was wondering 😛

[thick sundial]

My workaround should just be to uninstall LOL

[nocturne lagoon]

Way to go! Let me know if it works out "well" for you. 😉

[dense ermine]

inb4 people telling you "this isn't an airport you don't have to announce your departure" like it's the hottest comeback ever imagined

[merry palm]

Did something happen? You seem kinda angry rn.

[tulip wagon]

I thought all geese were angry.

[dreamy yoke]

Good to know! I was trying to do the math today and gave up. Hopefully get there soon. Farming is kind of limited

[gilded widget]

BETA thats what happened...

[thick sundial]

Bahari Bay chat is truly such a wild ride

[dense ermine]

Nah, just commiserating with a fellow Palian about the state of the game and discord.

[pseudo thistle]

Lol it does. It can be used to refill your watering pail too

[merry palm]

Ah just Palia eh? fair enough

[merry jungle]

is it the only thing that can?

[dreamy yoke]

So cute! Did you spend any other farm medals before getting that?

[dense ermine]

It's a placeable water source which is amazing. Means you don't have to run back to the water pit if you place your garden out back anymore. Working towards it myself and it looks really nice too.

[thick sundial]

It’s so hard to get and it makes me sad

[celest maple]

Why can we see the grass inside. >.<

[pseudo thistle]

I'm pretty sure it's the only guild reward that isn't purely decorative.

@dreamy yoke I spent a whole 20 on fertilizer a long time ago.

[dreamy yoke]

Hmm okay so I guess I still have to find a bunch! I haven’t spent any because I wanted to wait for the other cool farm reward. But then I found out this has a use

[outer atlas]

Nice!!!
I can't wait till I get mine.. I got the wallpaper first so I'm still saving
But its going to be so worth it since my garden is out in my backyard

[thick sundial]

Fuzzy carpet floors good - hard solid floors bad.

[dense ermine]

I miss my fuzzy fields. I know everyone hated them, but I thought they were neat.

[pseudo thistle]

I moved my garden to RIGHT NEXT to my pond for convenience a long time ago. Might be time to move it again now that I have the well. Shame the well can't auto water crops or something 😛 But I'll take it

@dreamy yoke I'm fairly sure I haven't missed a single weekly gardening quest since the second week of the game either. So it takes a while to get to this point. Another 2-3 months and I'll be able to buy out everything else probably.

[dreamy yoke]

Looks like I only need 270 more medals! Not that bad when I consider the weekly medals. Okay not too bad.

I want to move my garden but also I don’t have enough outside stuff to make it nice. I want a flower garden 😓

[gritty socket]

Dear lord, someone in General just went off and either got modded or banned

[dense ermine]

Someone with an axe to grind and a metric ton of alts?

[gritty socket]

Yep. They were spamming F U reacts everywhere for no reason I could discern. I call people here out on occasion, but we're still infinitely more behaved than General lately

[dense ermine]

What a weak trolling attempt. They should feel ashamed for being so terrible at the art.

[pine lake]

Hard to believe that the well from farming tokens will take 3 months to get if i dont miss a week

[pseudo thistle]

The foraging rewards are just as rough. Need 3020 tokens to buyout farming and foragine guild.

At 120~ token a week plus the 400 or so you get from getting to level 50 in a skill it'll take like half a year to buy them out assuming you actually grind to 50

[gritty socket]

If they don't increase the medal rate at least

[warm python]

Y'all I'm just trying to get a hat for a Halloween costume and every one has reviews saying they're too small

[sleek fulcrum]

it is a fairly common strategy for early access titles to have very grindy stretch goals to keep people occupied while there is a limited amount of content available, and then relax the grinding in the future as more content gets added

[gritty socket]

That's why I'm honestly not fretting too much about my progress, and deliberately playing casually

[dense ermine]

Kind of hoping regular crabs get a recipe. The crab recipe sounded neat until it required vampire crabs.

[neat marlin]

I used regular ones??

[dense ermine]

... wait seriously?

[gritty socket]

You can switch out certain ingredients by clicking on them in the recipe display

[sleek fulcrum]

if a recipe will take any crab but the only crab in your inventory is vampire crab then it can look like the recipe requires vampire crab, however if you have multiple type of crab then it will show you that it takes any crab, and clicking on that will allow you to specify which crab in your inventory to use

[gritty socket]

Yeah, I gathered a bunch of crabs last patch when the crab meat was first leaked unintentionally, and now it's going to pay off

[dense ermine]

Oh my god I'm dumb guys... This is twice this channel's cooking advice has helped me.

[neat marlin]

well if you complain enough someone somewhere will tell you the solution XD

[vital depot]

What's this?

[pine lake]

sonic

[glacial drift]

Proudhorn fart

[junior wasp]

That's where he takes off running and leaves a trail of fire like the Road Runner

[vital depot]

Byeeee, fart.

[warm python]

The elusive glow chapaa

[glacial drift]

Proudhorns are well known for crop dusting, you gotta watch out for them

[proven spear]

question, for moonstuck Grimoire, i have the whole moonstuck set, but cant find recipe for this.... thought made before but cant find now, is this a bug?

[dreamy yoke]

That’s odd, I just checked and I can see it in my work table list

[proven spear]

where roughly, what is before and after it

[vital depot]

Now I majestically fart. Okay, I'm done.

[dreamy yoke]

I found it in the middle of the rest of the set. Try scrolling down to the bottom cause sometimes they are not in order. I have some stuff form raven wood all the way at the bottom not with the rest of the set

[hot temple]

You get it for crafting further so you probably have the set but have a couple things uncrafted

[proven spear]

did that, went through every item, i remember seeing it unlock so long ago. but can't find. I have ALL sets crafted, so i should have it

[dreamy yoke]

Strange! I just checked again and I have mine between the moonstruck wall shelf and the nightstand if that helps

[junior wasp]

why is it so impossible to have the furniture recipes sort by type alphabetically\

[glacial drift]

With the crafting UI update I'm sure it'll be a lot eaiser to find things. the current system isn't great even with the limited set of stuff we already have. Getting more will only make it worse.

[proven spear]

nope. and all my items say crafted (check mark). what on earth... is this known bug from before?

[dreamy yoke]

Better yet why are the homestead ice box and pantry different shades even when coloured the same 😭 it’s driving me nuts!

[glacial drift]

I hope this patches Decor update puts the flowers in the ranch water basin

[hidden fjord]

I hit level 4 with Ashura but it wont let me ask him to be my shep, any idea why?

[proven spear]

finish the quest?

[solar crown]

do we know what this is about? strong weiner love?

[hot temple]

Sifuu and Hodari (romanceable) probs

[glacial drift]

I think it's only for Hodari though

[hidden fjord]

He hasnt given me a quest, I hit level 4, went to ask him to be my shep and there is no option there now and no quest

[tranquil star]

As soon as you do his level 4 quest (which can take a tiny bit of time to trigger), you will have the option for him to be your shepp again -- but you can't ask him until the level 4 friendship quest is done.

[elfin pivot]

Out of context or with context this is very questionable lol.

[hidden fjord]

Ok thank yiou very much!

[merry jungle]

are they lowering the stacks on amo?

[elfin pivot]

My understanding is that they will have their own bag/storage system seperate from your normal bag space.

[tranquil star]

They're adding a whole new tab for arrows/worms/etc that will hold that stuff, so in theory once you level that up you could have even more.

They're also adding a quest item tab.

[merry jungle]

yeah but the screenshot shared had the stacks at 24

[outer atlas]

Quest item tab will be so handy since some quest items you need on you to be able to turn the quest in... and I just never wanted to carry them around lol

[untold sluice]

I don't want to believe they'd describe Hodaddy as a strong weiner, but it's not wrong.

Who has a propensity to enjoy hot dogs?

(Also why is the chat timer still at 1:30 minutes that's ridiculous)...it's like they dont' want to have a community on here

[elfin pivot]

Well it's beta, if there is an imposed limit then we just give feed back that it's silly. But it's more likely that it was just a number of items made/placed as a placeholder. Until we actually get that feature and notes worrying about it is not worth the energy since it was said these things are planned to happen over the next few months.

[gritty socket]

Hodari means hot dog in Finnish, IIRC

[merry palm]

the man's name is hotdog?

[tranquil star]

Remember, "hot hounds" is also a recipe that's on its way into the game and I'm willing to bet that also means hotdog.

[untold sluice]

I'd [REDACTED] his [REDACTED]

[warm python]

Ayo?

[elfin pivot]

You can say you would eat the man's hotdog recipe.

[gritty socket]

I feel like that one should have been in this patch, though?

[winter abyss]

is anyone having trouble buying coins in the premium store? clicking on the amount i want and click on pay with card, nothing happens, if i click on pay with paypal, nothing happens

[errant inlet]

I feel like rare and epic finds like the Long Nosed Unicorn Fish should be able to be displayed regardless of its quality. its nearly impossible to get one

[merry palm]

Well that explains why Najuma spends all night in the workshop

[tranquil star]

Depends on what the devs were referring to with the arm/hotdog/heart. If they meant Sifuu/Hodari romance, great -- but if they didn't, it's theoretically possible that the hot hounds recipe's finally coming in. (Although they didn't put a pic of a crab so crab gumbo might still not be there, we'll see.)

[gritty socket]

Honestly, I'm all for a weird mushroom forest. It can still be plenty gloomy and dangerous... anyone who's played Morrowind can tell you that

[untold sluice]

Won't judge till I'm there, I'll just say the art in the title screen/paintings isn't what I expected from the things people say about it

[gritty socket]

I'm just excited to hopefully get a new zone in the next... couple patches, perhaps? It's clearly too early to actually announce it, but... the anticipation...

[outer atlas]

I love morrowind
Ehhh now I wanna play haven't played skyrim in like 4 months also...

[untold sluice]

I wouldn't expect it till Switch honestly, they may not want to release it till they know what the Switch limitations are...same for a lot of things related to beefing up the world

[celest maple]

is anyone laggy when they continuously move furniture ?

[west marlin]

Morrowind is the best, there's a great mod pack on nexus that gets you right up and running. I've never been so engaged in a game as I was in morrowind

[warm python]

Yeah I'd be shocked if they added in a new zone before switch release. That stuffs gonna be tricky as heck as is

[merry jungle]

fix ; plumbing

[outer atlas]

Yes!!! Ahh you're speaking my language nexus mods is my go to

[brisk spruce]

Re: Elderwoods When I want something scary, I much prefer when it doesn't look like it's trying to be scary. It still has a chance of being done well!

[untold sluice]

If that's what the youth are calling it these days

[dense ermine]

Giant spider boss to get silk threads from?

[merry jungle]

its a me mario

[untold sluice]

Also going from Bahari with a heavy orange color scheme into Elderwoods with another heavy orange color scheme feels a bit repetitive but again..who knows what the general tone of everything will be

[warm python]

aight nerds I'm home and here to be annoying more

[merry jungle]

birds of a feather lol

[nova pivot]

No, but I smile real big when Einar tells me "My pebbles like you!"

[balmy glade]

hey guys i found out a super big thing

looks like pikachu

[barren salmon]

@young plank

[warm python]

WHO'S THAT PALIAFISH

[dense ermine]

New pet just dropped. Now we have to spend $50 to get walmart Magikarp to go on adventures with us.

[warm python]

half an hour till ffxiv live letter whooooo you'll all hear me screaming in agony from wherever you live if the patch date isn't october 3rd (since i'm leaving abroad on the 6th)

[young plank]

waaait your kidding right? i havent spent a cent on this game because im not happy with how the shop acts but that just makes me not want to spend my money at all now lol

[warm python]

We joke, we joke. (...I hope.)

[dense ermine]

I'm almost never serious.

[young plank]

ahaha i really want dog like pets ooh or maybe like a turtle or something

[hardy nimbus]

You Heckin Goose! Always joking around

[balmy glade]

i would want magikarp. 6 matching
i started playing this game only so i could harass the devs on twitter to allow me to have a magikarp farm on my plot, where i can raise them from little bambinos.
unfortunately, twitter is no longer in the existence

[junior wasp]

I want to teach my palicat to retrieve chapaa that I shoot, like a bird dog

[warm python]

Just give me a free rat or something and I'd be happy. The dream is a capybara tho but there's no way they'd put in something as amazing as a capybara in for free

[hardy nimbus]

Cheap Capybara

[young plank]

^ and then the shop versions could have cute clothes on them? or different colors?

[balmy glade]

perhaps there will be some kind of animal that looks like a capybara- but maybe better. infinite fantasy

[warm python]

give me dollar store capybawa and i'd be happy

[hardy nimbus]

every time i see someone's abandoned glider out and about, i pretend the magical sernuk finally came for revenge

[balmy glade]

it feels nice to stop and stare for a sec!! SO ARTFUL

[dense ermine]

The Crab shot down that one fairly hard but indirectly in the monetization blog. On another note I do thank the devs for adding a cooking recipe that uses crabs for that very reason.

[undone mulch]

we're still looking for the second crab recipe, which nobody is sure exists at this point

[balmy glade]

they confirmed it wasn't in the game yet! you can stop disrupting crabs!!

[dense ermine]

Never... they must pay for what they've done.

[undone mulch]

so they just like, outright lied in their patch notes or something? lol

[warm python]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[balmy glade]

END THIS MAD CRAB DISRUPTION!!

& @undone mulch they just had to check shortly after the update! um, you know, a mistake here and there isn't the worst thing. you must have so many crabs now!! 🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀

[outer atlas]

Both recipes aren't in the game.. same as for the emberborn furniture
Which was suppose to hehe

[undone mulch]

no wonder it was so hard to get patch notes from them in the first place, they weren't actually planning on like, ever doing them and they have no idea what's in the build

[dense ermine]

Painfully accurate and evident. Roadmap? They don't even have a road.

[warm python]

[undone mulch]

idk. everything else i could say is also uh, well, it would be uncharitable but at the same time there's no real explanation

maybe it's just an elaborate prank, like silksong. maybe i'm just hallucinating this entire thing

[livid yacht]

What's the best way to make money? I feel like I never have enough

[undone mulch]

well, for the next two days or so, there's a lot of panicked cake parties happening, and since nobody likes doing batter or sweetleafs, you can get in really easy that way

just make sure to sell all your cakes or cake byproducts before the patch

i will be holding onto a few of them just to see if the game gets super confused and creates a cake missingno (the devs are definitely not going to test what happens to prepatch cakes postpatch. i'm gambling on an overflow error bug to consume me)

[young plank]

oh right the cake patch is happening next patch. im kinda on the fence if i should join some or not im enjoying the struggles

[west marlin]

haaa 😂

@outer atlas good luck and have fun. all the mods worked without issue when i followed the steps it's called GV's OpenMW TR+OAAB+TOTSP+BCOM+Fixes

[undone mulch]

incidentally, they do have a roadmap, it's just marked by the only thing that makes it into the game on a regular basis

the clothing

[warm python]

We're beta testing the highway

[dense ermine]

I think I just witnessed a murder.

[west marlin]

ah yes, the two things I can count on every palia patch.
new paid clothing, and bugs.

[undone mulch]

look, if you have to get stuck in a tpose at the village gate fused to other players, you have to make sure that your character's clump looks better than the other clumps

either that, or as a form of entertainment, force other players to look at your dolly dress

[young plank]

ill have you know i look good t-posing XD

[west marlin]

bruh if i get that glitch and my character changes gender and gets even uglier and they dont make him a femboy again, im charging back every one of those useless outfits

[marble girder]

Hi everyone

[warm python]

FFXIV FRIENDOS, OCTOBER 3RD FOR 6.5 LET'S GOOO!!! /happy screaming and sobbing oh thank god I can play it before my vacation I did not want to spoiler dodge for like two weeks

[hardy nimbus]

Random question: how many preserves jars do yall have on your plots?

[warm python]

Four I think? I used to have three going with apples and one with potatoes back when pickled potatoes had better focus gain lolsob

[west marlin]

5

[hardy nimbus]

Oh I was wondering if it worth it to have more than the one I just got now

[pure rover]

Is there a benefit to casting your bobber out more?

[warm python]

Not that I've heard of tbh other than if you're aiming for a bubbly spot

[barren salmon]

think I have like....10?

[jolly idol]

I just made another so 4 now

[outer atlas]

I think I have 6 or 8 I can't rememeber... full of apples though

[dense ermine]

So beyond the cake party "rebalance", an emote, and some workbench improvements is there anything else in the upcoming patch? Not a fan of the phrasing of all this happening in the coming months when release is potentially in December. They have three months. Betting release gets pushed way back.

[gritty socket]

Release might get pushed back, but I was thinking about it, and while the game is planned to release on Switch around the holidays, I don't think the team ever said it was coming out of beta around that time. It might still stay in beta for a bit after Switch release.

We're also getting (needed) bugfixes, and it sounds like some decor interactivity? ...I forget, were the Star Stones coming this patch? (EDIT: No, but I did just remember the Black Market remodel)

[dense ermine]

So you mean their best shot at redemption, launching on another platform, is going to be blown by having the game still be in beta? Not sure how accepting modern console gamers are of that kind of thing, but it's their game I guess. Good luck to them.

Bug fixes are nice. I was hoping to see more of those than anything else honestly. Star Stones are a future thing possibly a month or better out from the wording. Highly unfortunate as mining needed a buff a month ago. A similarly useful buff would be making silver and gold smelt times more in line with how palium scaled in comparison to the other metals. Makes no sense in all honesty.

[gritty socket]

I mean... I've been taking the general pulse ingame and at other outlets, and.... it really seems like most people are fine with the game as it stands. Or, at the very least, more forgiving of bugs. I don't think they're at the point where they need to worry about 'redemption', when the game's not even officially released yet

[dense ermine]

From what I can see the opinions are mixed with the game being at least playable and moderately to very fun depending on what parts you like. I just hope the Switch audience is forgiving and patient with them. Us PC gamers can be a cynical and demanding bunch.
Most of the bad reviews and failings people point out are the game not being what they expected. Which is entirely on them.

[gritty socket]

I think where we need to be concerned is if we see consistent schedule slips of content. Not just "hey, we missed a few food recipes in the recent patch", but big ones. We're not there yet, and in fact I wouldn't mind if they went to a monthly sprint just to make sure they have fewer bugs to deal with (though some are always going to pop up as is the nature of development)

Always worth remembering that most of the time the team just wants to give the best experience they can. I'm thinking about this more thanks to seeing MattMcMuscles dropped a new video on what happened with the Saint's Row reboot (spoilers, executive meddling from Embracer Group/Deep Silver, and really bad working conditions again from Embracer/DS)

[coral geyser]

The games great, even better considering early days. Sure theres lots of bugs to squash but that is A-OK. The gaming community are just whiny in general. Can't make everyone happy.

I look forward to all the negative commenters banding together and release their free-to-play MMO to see how well they do!

[dense ermine]

Save those platitudes for general.

[gritty socket]

I mean, a good chunk of the people that are angry here and elsewhere just want the game to succeed, even if they're critical. Some have gone to the point that they're cynical, though, and while I'm not going to tell anyone that 'they should leave if they hate the game', there is something to be said for taking a break and seeing where they're at month or so from now if you're consistently not jelling with the game's direction. Won't judge anyone harshly if they decide "Hey, I'm not having fun" or "Game might not be for me."

[dense ermine]

But yeah, anyway that is true. I would expect less, much less, during the holiday season as well. If they're still pulling sprints during the last week of November and December I'd start to be worried about their working conditions. So far no major goals have been missed and that's a positive. We'll see how things are going around December. They even teased flares which is amazing.

[coral geyser]

Highly recommend taking a long a break. As long as possible. Feel free to critique when qualified and can achieve better.

[gritty socket]

And again, that all depends on when they plan to officially be out of beta.

[glossy dock]

garden plot suggestion for a relatively low maintence good potato pickling layout? i'm too lazy too cook. i'd rather chuck the potatoes into the preserve jar.

this is what i planned so far:
#📷│old-palia-screenshots message

[gloomy cradle]

I'd just like the game-ruining bug that I and many many others have been dealing with for a month to get fixed. And if they're working on it and having trouble fixing it, talk to us about it.

[gloomy cradle]

is the fruit important to you? you can do 100% water retain + 100% weed prevention and never have to touch it, if you want.

[glossy dock]

the fruit is temporary since i'm in baking parties a lot. but after the nerf i might just have one tree.

edit: i have a 100% weed/water farm before but i hated managing the onions and carrots for the layout took longer than just pickout the weeds.

#📷│old-palia-screenshots message

[gloomy cradle]

oh, for the 100/100, i just pick the crops one type at a time while immediately replacing them.

and picking out the weeds isn't the problem. it's the growth progress lost while the weeds are there.

just depends on your playstyle, tho, 'cause i barely ever go to my plot, just stay out for days at a time, so if mine aren't 100/100, i just don't get regular harvests.

[dense ermine]

Quite the ad hominem you got there. Try attacking my argument instead of my level of expertise. Because after all Discuss the idea, not each other.

[outer atlas]

^^^ exactly
Discuss the idea not the person
Rule number 1 #🔖│rules

[gritty socket]

Yeah, as someone who has been getting frustrated lately with people calling me a white knight when I'm really just trying to be mindful of the current development state of the game and the work the developers are putting in, this response is uh... not helpful? I get where it's coming from, mind, but still.

[gloomy cradle]

And look, I'm all for cutting devs slack early on and the whole "it's a beta!!!!" stuff, but at the same time, it's a fully open game with hundreds and hundreds of dollars of items in its cash shop. People aren't even asking a lot. Fix some egregious bugs instead of adding more. That's kinda it.

[brisk spruce]

forreal on the bug fixes. why can I still not delete these people from my friends list without blocking them outright 👀 or invite people to a party without a good chance of it just not working for one or more of us
I would take an update with ONLY bug fixes at this point because it's gotten so frustrating

[gritty socket]

I mean, the thing is, cash shop items are easy to have the modelers make while the coding team is working on other things (like fixing bugs). And as nice as it would be to have a patch free of additional bugs, I can pretty confidently tell you that never happens. There's always something that sneaks in because code is a pain.

[warm python]

Oh did I miss someone pulling the "well if you don't like it then leave and make your own game" card while getting ready for bed also did I miss a Matt McMuscles namedrop!! dude's one of my favs

[gloomy cradle]

Right right, but when they're making content updates with critical bugs, do you think they have a separate team working on those hotfixes than the team working on the preexisting bugs? I don't know what kind of resources they're working with, but it feels to me like if you're adding new features/content on top of a game that already has horrible bugs in its core features and the new stuff has new and different bugs, you're just spreading your workforce thinner and/or putting old bugs on the backburner to fix new bugs.

[dense ermine]

You're not a white knight. You defend with logic even if sometimes it does seem like a stretch due to your optimism. Certainly helps balance out the endless salt fest here for sure.

[warm python]

Yeah fr. I may not always agree with you, Flapjack, but you still at least hear us out and don't kick us out the door for our feels so you are still a good bean in my eyes

and yeah I've watched most of his wha happun vids, executive meddling can mess with a looooot of stuff

[gritty socket]

Yep! Saint's Row Remake Wha Happun? I haven't watched it yet, but the comments are full of people going "well, it would have been fine if they made a better game!" or complaining about "SJWs", so you know plenty of other people didn't watch it either, and they left comments! But it sounds like the real issue was executive meddling from Embracer and Deep Silver... of course the story's going to suffer when the management keeps forcing writing staff out because of poor working conditions

[gloomy cradle]

I'm just starting to repeat myself in here. I hope they give me something else to talk about soon. In a... good way?

[dense ermine]

Oh yeah I saw a bunch of folks crowing about the usual talking points on a subreddit that shall not be named regarding Saint's Row.

[gritty socket]

I've got it downloaded, and I'll probably play it when I'm at a lull from the other stuff I want to play. Volition deserved a better swan song for sure, but I want to at least hear what they sang. Because dammit, they were just trying to do their best under management that is now really swiftly crumbling because I'm not sure anyone has really grappled with how big the fallout from the failed Embracer deal is going to be. Expect to see a lot of studios they snagged either downsizing, being sold off, or in the worst case, being closed wholesale

[warm python]

There's def a big disconnect between people who just want to slag on a game without even thinking about it and putting their own awful attitudes on it, and then people like a bunch of us who criticize the game but based on what it actually is and all that jam and do love the game in our own ways. it's sad to see some think we're like the first kind of people but. the internet ig

[gritty socket]

I do think this channel goes a little too far sometimes, I have to say. I keep seeing "the devs clearly don't care" and sometimes I'm not always sure if those are just words borne of frustration, or what some posters actually believe. I just keep thinking that maybe it would be better if we tried to keep the temp down a few notches, you know? That said... we're still somehow better behaved than #💬│palia-general, despite being kind of the designated complaint channel, which is... Impressive? Deeply sad? A byproduct of us being a smaller channel than the general intake that is, well, General?

[warm python]

There are def people go too far. Just as people go too far with the defense like what we just saw before. I guess, at the very least, you know how us regulars feel even when we're being super pessimistic in a joking way lol

[dense ermine]

Seems like at one point someone must have silenced them with similar arguments, and they decided it was the right and proper way to address criticism instead of reflecting on how the argument used to silence them wasn't even an argument in the first place. Reminds me of when I was young and I had a balloon. This other kid popped a kid's balloon and that kid then popped mine. I asked them why they did that and their response was "someone popped my balloon, that's why." There was a choice presented to me. Would I become like him and go on to do something I don't like to others because it happened to me, or would I be better and not inflict the bad things I experienced on others? Really weird introspective moment for someone in elementary school.

[warm python]

Fallin asleep now, nn bbs

[gritty socket]

I wish that Twitter wasn't impossible to search nowadays (along with, well, everything else about Twitter), because there was a thread a while back called the Trashed Bathroom thread. To sum up, it posited that so many things are beyond people's individual capabilities to fix, so sometimes they lash out at what they can change instead, in this case the aforementioned (and metaphorical) trashed bathroom. While I'm not sure it holds water for every occasion, the general message stuck with me.

[outer atlas]

[dense ermine]

Used Google to find it. Main point seems accurate. We should be helping instead of hurting wherever possible.

[marble sierra]

PALIA WISHLIST

-Mounts (Riffroks) Palian Horses / Hoverboards crafted by Najuma
-Elder Woods doors open as an adventure zone allowing new creatures to hunt, new gatherables and trees and (optional) combat encounters to hunt the monsters (Flow mutated ancient humans) the NPCs keep talking about.
-Upstairs (second level) addition to our houses
-Doors for each individual room that auto open when you walk through them
-Archways and better corridor / walls meshing combos
-Sort button for our bags / inventory
-Silver and Gold upgrade for inventory in our chests (I keep having to sell and delete because of no room to store) example: silver chest 2500 per chest and gold 5000 per chest
-sprinkler system / rain that waters our crops
-Weather!!!
-Music box / sound system for our houses
-stepping stones / pathway design options to craft for our plots
-EXPAND SOIL FOR MORE AGRICULTRUE OPTIONS PLEASE
-Open a mine in our plots for personal cave mining that refreshes every day or palian week
-Zeke needs to open a shop in bahari bay
-allow us to mail ourselves stuff from random mailboxes placed all over the world
-different grass and field work options via lawn mower
-pools
-I have so much more, what y’all think so far?

[raw jungle]

you do already know about the copper and iron chest upgrades right?

[outer atlas]

Yeah give me a lawn mower please... I've played house flipper I'm ready for it! I'm a pro!😎

[fossil robin]

am i the only one whos suddenly insanely laggy when placing furniture?

[marble sierra]

…yes I’m level 400 and own everything lol that’s my point, 10,000 is not nearly enough space

[raw jungle]

fair! I'm not at that point yet, but I keep hitting my limit with locked storage. that needs upgrades too.

[gloomy cradle]

I'm down to 5,100 phoenix fireworks.

[outer atlas]

I'm just patiently waiting for chance to finish the essay they're preparing for heckingoose

[neat marlin]

I find the inv is ok if you just own 1 of everything XD (looks at 4k pheonix fireworks in the chest)

[fathom radish]

50 zeki balls later, my first plushie too 🥲

[neat marlin]

oo plushy

[dense ermine]

Fully expecting a breakdown of all the negative things I have said early on (if you look back there is some less than stellar stuff there I've chilled out since) and a carefully crafted and thought out argument explaining why I'm wrong on all of it despite my stance softening to being supportive of the game and devs (even monetarily) while still being pessimistic and joking about things that go wrong in game here. Good devs, good game, good community. Just needs time and more bug fixes. Mostly just worried this new fun things I got for free is going to go belly up is all. Probably won't but the worry is there.

[gloomy cradle]

i know this is not for screenshots, but what am i gonna do, go post this in screenshots?

[fathom radish]

i didn't read almost anything but the one thing you said about missing recipes etc, my biggest issue is their communication with it, why did i only get an answer about the 2 food recipes missing from someone on the community team in a discord chat but they didnt update patch notes or put a statement somewhere? everyone else will be wasting their time potentially looking for them like i did (hello over 1000 crabs) so their communication also needs work

[gritty socket]

I was about to say no dupe furniture, but then I saw the second pendant light

[gloomy cradle]

I think S6's communication is one of their worst attributes. 🙃

[fathom radish]

its rough because some things feel almost well communicated but others are severely lacking it would seem, at least to me

[gritty socket]

Can you link me to that? I'm curious, and it'll be good to have in the back pocket when other people ask

[coral geyser]

Oh do you consider the recipe missing? I just figured its time gated and to be introduced with relative content being released. Maybe just leaving some wonder and suprise instead of telling everyone everything before it drops.
Kudos to the people crab busting, a game always needs those hardcore secret discoverers, this one just didnt pan out.

[dense ermine]

And even that isn't too terrible all things considered. The flares proved that one to me.

[past summit]

is anyone getting lag spikes when trying to place decors down?

[raw jungle]

you can try removing fences, if you have them

[gritty socket]

Eh, it wouldn't be the first time things get missed when they were supposed to be added. It happens, but it's also demoralizing for players

[gloomy cradle]

yes, which makes it feel intentionally bad. 🥴

@dense ermine that's not communication, tho. that's listening to feedback. communicaiton would be talking to us about stuff.

[fathom radish]

#💬│palia-general message

@coral geyser i can't read tone very well so i'm not sure if you're being half sarcastic, forgive me 🥲
but yes they are missing, especially since in the patch notes they specifically say 10 new recipes were added, and never updated it to say actually 2 weren't added, they really are lacking with the communication when someone is going wrong

and my theory really is the crab gumbo will drop from crabs, at least i think that would be cool haha

[past summit]

i dont have fences on my plot

[coral geyser]

Oh yeah I would think so! Indie sized company producing their first game, thats chill. Miss away, I know I am not owed anything from them by playing their free game.

[dense ermine]

I mean communication goes both ways. They keep us updated on most of the bigger elements they have planned. And they do accept feedback and are supportive of emergent gameplay elements. It's a good thing to see. I wish they were more detailed in their dev updates but I get why they might not be able to.

[gritty socket]

I mean, the CMs do that, it's just not centrally located. If there was a way to have a collection of all posts from a dev or CM, that would help

[fathom radish]

but that's the biggest issue is the community team is replying directly to people and no one else hardly sees that comment they made, they need to have a channel dedicated to those answers so everyone can go look and see, or most importantly actually update the patch notes when things are bugged or not in game

basically im agreeing with you, im just a little salty about my 1000+ crab hunt so i need to rant a bit haha

[gloomy cradle]

But in general, I think my feedback on this game has become a little embittered by how long I've been plagued by this untrackable progress bug. I just want to be able to see what I'm missing. I want to know what to go for. I don't even know if stuff I've gotten since my achievements went blank will actually show as having been gotten once they fix it.

I also wish I had learned about forcing the game to run in DX11 before I had it crash 130 times in DX12. 🙃

[dense ermine]

You're taking this far too personally. Please stop.

[coral geyser]

Stop crying

[gritty socket]

I mean, you're set on crabs for like, ever now. I only stockpiled 30 or so in prep for the most recent patch

[fathom radish]

at least for me my achievements were still tracking even after they all went black, i just finished bug hunting both non star and starred this week eventhough it was all black, i hope its the case for everyone else too

[fossil robin]

wait why are we stockpiling crabs??

[gloomy cradle]

no, i can't complete achievements. when yours are blank, but something you have, if you hover over it, does it tell you what it is?

[dense ermine]

Make a valid argument and perhaps my tears will dry. Until then I'll just sit here and "cry"

[outer atlas]

I believe Deejay needs to come in here and start throwing some chapaas

Damn look at that... I summoned the ducky

[spring rivet]

**A friendly reminder of our server rule #1 Respect and Kindness above all. Let's focus on discussing the topic itself, rather than discussing individuals. **

[fathom radish]

it wasn't on purpose, i'm just convinced the crab gumbo recipe will drop from hunting crabs so i went way over 1000 crabs caught the last couple weeks before someone on the community team responded to me and said the two missing recipes are not even in the game yet 🥲

@gloomy cradle mine reset every time i log in in terms of showing whats under the black outline, so i cant see what was there but i've been tracking it on a spreadsheet since the beginning anyway luckily, but i can still complete the achievements because its still tracking my progress despite all black

[coral geyser]

Looking through this channel it's just so much complaining with no insight in to how to physically rectify. This whole thread reeks of edgelords. It's like a personality trait that maybe 5% if gamers adopt where if a mass of people say something is really good they have to talk crap on it just to show how cool and different they are.

• The game is free to play, it costs you nothing but your time which you can choose to invest anywhere.
• Indie sized dev team
• No one owes you anything when you play this early release game
• Its FREEEEEE

Bugs are fine, completely understandable, nothing I have found is game breaking. Frustrating, sure, like when I can't place furniture without the VRAM leak it surely is annoying. I could start criticising on public forums, or, go look that it has been reported through the appropriate channels and resign to "aw shucks, that sucks, oh well I will do some of the other 999 points of content until they fix it which will be quite fast in relation to the complexity of creating a whole freaking game".

[gritty socket]

Well, last patch people noticed "chopped crab" was accidentally added in as a prep item, so I knew we were getting a crab dish. Figured I'd get a step ahead

[gloomy cradle]

what i mean is if you hover your mouse over the black space, does the tooltip show up showing its name, etc?

[fossil robin]

ohhhhh

[outer atlas]

I would say the achievement bug is game breaking because we cannot make any progress on any achievement
Im stuck 😏

[gloomy cradle]

I just got a second starred giant goldfish. I'm gonna display them both in my house just to bother people.

[fathom radish]

no its reset every time i log in, can only see the black shadow no info, same with requests i can only request something ive gathered:hunted/caught that day

[dense ermine]

That's fine, but no reason to talk down to people. You have plenty of good points. Many I agree with might I add.

[brisk spruce]

imagine being able to point out flaws while also enjoying a game and not hating its creators. impossible, right? /s

@gloomy cradle There is no such thing as "indie sized", indie doesn't have a size limit. They're indie because they're a new studio, independent of any established studios. They do have almost 200 employees though last I saw when looking it up

[gloomy cradle]

What is "indie sized," btw? The only number I keep seeing people throw around is 200 employees and a supposed $50 million budget. If that's true, is that indie?

[fathom radish]

only thing i will say is it seems like the furniture storage issue absolutely is game breaking in the sense many cant play and were offered account resets for a mesely 150k gold

thankfully the community has rallied and found that emptying out your furniture’s storage onto different plots fixes the constant white room “server disconnect” and client travel failure

[dense ermine]

Indie is a term like beta. It's kind of flexible. Small business is more accurate given they do not have the same resources as an established larger company.

[gloomy cradle]

I mean, I know indie just means they don't have a publisher. It's "indie sized" I'm confused about.

[pale cosmos]

I came here just in time.

• "Indie sized dev team" - 200 people is indie sized?
• "No one owes you anything" - what this has to do with the stuff discussed here? People are usually voicing their negative opinions hoping the game will improve, not that they are owed something
• "Its FREEEE" - game being free with cash shop focus was a monetization decision, not a quality related one. Just becase it's free it does not get a free pass for everything

[gritty socket]

Oh, is it an overflow bug from having more in your storage than you should have had in thr first place? Because that's sort of what that sounds like (disclaimer, I'm not a game dev, and I haven't programmed in, like 10 years)

[fathom radish]

i’m not 100% sure but it lines up since i could make a new account and have no issues but as soon as i logged into my main then i had instant issues, when i finally got into my home plot on main acc i spam placed everything out of my furniture storage and like magic no issues, it was someone else who found it out but can’t remember for the life of me

it’s possible it’s only one item causing the issues i guess but no way i’m attempting to find it out for free

[dense ermine]

It's a bit deeper than just that it seems. Something else is going on here. Entitlement attitude, edgelords, extreme intolerance to any criticism... yeah I don't know but the problem does not seem to rest with us. All things considered we're on the same side here and want the game to succeed. Kind of confused.

[coral geyser]

Indie - Very! and its their first release and a new cozy MMO.
Devs don't owe..blah blah - It has to do with every whiner here, they gifted you a completely amazing and intricate experience and its early days. Don't feel like you need to complain that you havent gotten it exactly how you want.

[gritty socket]

Did you use the bug that was around in the first week or so to get more than 8 chests of storage? Maybe that's related?

[outer atlas]

cozy
Count 1

The namecalling is uncalled for btw

[pale cosmos]

I am speechless

[dense ermine]

Are you alright? I mean this seriously as one person lost in this chaotic mess of a universe to another... are you alright?

[gloomy cradle]

[gritty socket]

I... I need to sleep. Like, I already did, but now... moreso. Don't burn the channel down while I'm out

[coral geyser]

It is free and no PTW elements at all, think of cash shop as a way to send your kudos to the team.

Consider the intricacies of the game. It's very complex and presented well. As a full stack developer even the details like the NPC pathing and reactions to player interaction are amazing.

It's a lot of moving parts, its going to break a bit early on. That is understandable I would think?

[gloomy cradle]

Okay, but like, we can still talk about the broken parts.

[safe elbow]

Having read all that, this is the discussions channel, people are going to discuss things.

[brisk spruce]

no promises. might be heading that way (gn )

[pale cosmos]

Most other pages will give you the 5-10 range as the most common. 200 people is not your usual "indie studio"

You and I might have a very different ideas about what a "completely amazing and intricate experience means" and as I have said before the "complains" are mostly coming from the heart hoping the game will improve (it is beta after all - feedback)

[outer atlas]

Velran please! Nightmode what is that flashbang

[pale cosmos]

Strangely enough, my Discord is in night mode

[vast yoke]

"Reactions to player interaction" 👍