#🐟│fishing-mining
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About the Flow trees, now that I upgraded my axe to the fine axe, would I be able to take it down, or do I need help?
Got it! Thanks for the tip! I was fishing kilima and bahari for 3 days. Took only 15 glow worms to get the recipe from the housing plot.
You will still need help for flow trees. You need exquisite axe so you can solo small flow trees.
Ah, ok. I am working on palium to get the materials.
gotta restart, bugged rn
kind of, we have #1143270926394335282 for that kind of thing
Had anyone found a fix to the fishing redical not showing up?
Turns out it the brackets go away if you turn camera around lmao
I wish they would lower the craft time for glow worms, an hour per seems abit excessive
Do we know if they tweaked PAlium spawns? I used to find most of my Palium in the Hideaway Bluffs, but the last two days, I haven't found any there
You find them anywhere ironic spawns now
Yes. Pallium now spawns from any spot where iron spawns. The hotspots are now void with the new patch
Oh, neato
Is compass worthwhile to have now?
Any current data on efficiency of foods in Worm and Glow Worm making? What I can find, including Wiki, seems to be outdated.
I’ll bring this up with the wiki crew, ty for bringing it to my attention!
Wiki pages even state at top, that starred foods don't make a difference, and only in history, that they do since a patch. Seems value have not been adjusted after the cooked foods nerf...I've got badly burned on cheap Sashimi giving 4 Worms instead of close to 15, as listed.
Seens, that I've found the answer to my questions in Gardening thread: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tr5KdvomPxOsA93HC9S7vDdP_bnffWifpwwQPCectdg/edit#gid=0
It points out iron/pal so not really helpful rn
Ugh :/
Hi there I am wondering where to find palium these days?
Potentially on any Iron spot.
So not really trackable/spawnable anymore?
AFAIK, it's not 😦
is anyone else having issues with fishing? there are a couple ponds in Bahari and in Kilima lagoon my UI doesn't appear for reeling in, so I just lose all fish.
I've fished a lot in diff spots in the past 24h and I've had no such problems.
It’s happened to me too. I’ve seen quiet a few people mention it so hopefully they address it soon :/
Yay! I'm glad it helped :D
Yeah the fishing reticle bug is incredibly annoying
Fishing in the sky is quite interesting
Found 2 palium nodes in an hour today, yielding 10 palium. Both shared with me by other players. And I know the iron node locations like the back of my hand. Newbies are gonna struggle. It's fine for me, because I don't need it anymore. but I really think they turned down the iron/pal spawn rate too low. We either need fewer stones or more frequent spawns. If you agree, submit feedback!
yep, getting gold after the last (ohhh 3-4) patches has been a pain, now with palium included in the iron deposits... uppffff. Like you I'm far enough along I wasn't even searching for palium unless it was right under my nose...and I have enough iron to build a railroad around Palia!!! lol Gold tho... I need me some gold lol
i still have only seen 2 nodes total since 175
I believe you the RNG on palium spawn is just too low.
out of like 100 tries I caught about 3 fish, am not able at all to handle the mini game. even tried to change my mouse settings, but that didnt help. can't keep the fish in the brackets resp. when it gets out never get it back in in time. so frustrating. 
find a high spot, say proudhorn, and take some time to look down and around.
You can spot the big and medium Palium from far away.
If you dont seem any, move to next lookout point and repeat.
i jus saw my 3rd - and yeah I've done the check the whole map then stick to a couple of hills things to still not get any
Probably some other person in the server not sharing, relog to different server.
it's not just the issue of rng. Ppl are gonna mine palium, leaving iron/stone. So unless someone comes to mine those, that server instance is going to be bare. And since it takes a while for nodes to respawn, it's a lot harder to force spawn palium and not have it mined by someone else than say flow trees. This change is going to be terrible for new players needing palium for tool upgrades. And switch release will have new players joining game.
and it's going to get even worse once ppl are done with wind temple and get back to regular game play
i've got everything built right now, so i'll only be a problem for me if I finally decide to care about decorating or more recipes are added that need it. 3-5 bahari visits a day with 200 iron ore and 300 stone but no pallium is just the norm now
The new being a polite player meta is mining all the stone you see 
I have tended to mine the stone spots too, so other things can spawn there, in Bahari Bay specifically.
it already was, but just limited to the palium spots, so now it's expanded to the whole map. I have so many glass panes and light bulbs now
I am coming up against the issue of not having enough storage space in chests for all the things I want to keep on hand.
i feel like there should be enough chest space (at some chest upgrade level - highest? 2nd highest?) to have 1 stack of every resource + quest items in regular storage and one of everything in the lockbox
actually, maybe quest items and unsellable items shouldn't take storage space? I've got so many scrolls, bobbers, and things just just chilling
you can have 8? ironboxes and 3 lockboxes, thats quiet a bit of storage..
yup, only 300 spots in the lock boxes which isn't enough for 1 of every item (resources + fish+ insects + food + huntables) and the 10,000 regular store gets eaten up remarkably quickly if you keep enough things on hand to do the weeklies, replant, and keep up ammo
Could store the bugs in displays, but I gather you want to be able to use them in the future.
Food however, why would you store food ?
1 farming expedition (flow or ore) is a good 3,000 items- if you put everything in storage so you can craft with it that's a third of your storage full
worm farms are full (for higher gold return than just selling the food) and i'm already carrying a stack for focus after a 50x or 100x cooking party
Only you can tell if you are ever gonna need all that food.
I would sell it and buy lucky coins at Zeki.
I typically don't store much food(usually just a couple of preserves and fishing bonuses - right now it is 300ish star meat cuz I haven't gotten around to making steak dinners in a while) but getting skill coins faster via focus food and more gold via worms for lucky coins means not selling it immediately after making it - everything has a better return after crafting/cooking and the queues only take so many resources
A hoarders life is though..
heavy cookers and decorators in another server never have enough space 😆 hundred of every crop and resource constnatly turning over. I only have that problem if i'm after flow, palium, or precious metals since it gives so so many of the common resources, mostly I'm at 8,500/10,000
sorta hate the storage screens since there's no search, sort, or filter so there may be plenty i could get rid of while keeping a few of everything (for quests, wants, loves, bundles, recipes), but it's a pita to go through it all
I caught the Sashimi recipe today after weeks of fishing for it so now delusion is setting in 😂🤘
Ugh! Why did they change Palium spawns? I've barely seen any all day. 
@pine gale@agile sigil Haven't tried it myself, yet, but I've heard, that some players just dump and hoard their pies on dedicated extra plots.
I have 2 questions about glow worm finishing though.
- I'm OK doing regular worm fishing even without boosts and really comfy adding a sashimi, losing maybe 5% of starred fish. What boost setup would be recommended for glow worm fishing?
- Do higher level players usually set up to do their all their fishing with glow worms or are they still do a large part with regular worms?
Anyone having a hard time finding the unicorn fish? I haven't been able to spot one at all. I've spent 3 in game days searching for it at the cove but nothing. Am I in the wrong area?
Check if you’re fishing with glow worm, Bahari bay coast, daytime
Yes and yes 😭 all I get is tuna, black bass and moray.
Then you are doing it right, it is a very rare fish so all I can say is hope for the rng :( sorry
an hour running in Bahari now be like
May a question, how you get gold when you keep the Most?
Imma Baby hoarder, but also newbiee, so struggeling with gold
How do you have that much storage space? I am told by the game that I can only place 8 storage chests, and am maxing out at 3200.
you can upgrade you chests at the furniture shop
What is the thing I need to buy called?
copper storage chests or iron storage chests depending on how much gold you have
then craft them and place them
Does anyone know how ore nodes respawn? I keep seeing different answers on the internet and I am trying to test out way to get the most of Palium
As far as I know with palium, there is a cap on how many active nodes can spawn. So if you're in a dead server, it can be a bit of a chore finding all the nodes. Whereas if you're in a lovely server, sometimes you'll even see palium spawn right near you. Best method I've found is pick a mountain in north Bahari, and mine every node you see. Rock, iron, palium - and just do laps around it
Try recasting without catching fish it drives you less crazy
And you dont have to worry about clicking fast because as long as you dont reel in the same fish will come back so it can be a lot more relaxing to just check what fish it is, pull out, recast
Maybe it was sheer luck or maybe as a newbie it's easier for me to adjust, but even if it's not great, I still wouldn't call it a bad haul (using mainly @strong prism method).
guess Im just unlucky as always 
although I must to add, decreasing drop rate with decreasing sell price is a bad idea
they should rather decrease the price and let the drop rate be the same it was, or decrease drop rate but let the price be the same, imo
... or maybe I was extremely lucky. I just think, that we need to give it a bit more time before jumping to conclusions. Also this being a nerf for veteran players may actually be a blessing to newbies - vets knew where to efficiently mine Palium and newbies for quite a while had to learn the ropes, before really having any chance to compete.
It's not new... I've always mined everything. Most frequent miners do.
when they announced starstones they said they will be pretty much profitable and it will boost mining significantly
and they did, but now I dont see it as significant at all
I was always willing to teach newbies, If I can only get 10 palium in an hour of mining, and I know all the iron nodes by heart... how long is it going to take them? and you need that 10 for each exquisite tool upgrade, and a ton more for furniture making.
Im not even talking about palium rn, its another topic
its just was my morning run experience today, I barely saw any iron nodes aswell, mostly stone, and even mining all the stone i saw I got 1 Citrine stone?
need to pray more to RNG gods I guess
anyone got tips for fame ray btw? it's been a pain
This changed with the last patch. All iron/pallium nodes are on a steady spawn rate, which IMHO is way too low.
If you agree, please file feedback! This is going to be crazy when we get a ton of newbies with release on the Switch.
whats the fisherman's brew give? I don't understand
The ( ) size that has red / green indicator is slightly larger, so less difficult to catch a fish
Oh okay ty 🙂
You're welcome! 
I'm trying to get starred ancient fish 
GL
Ahh that's gonna be a hard one ): still finding it too hahah
i found yesterday 3 ancient fish in a row regular ones i was amzed
Good luck! Been struggling too on that lol
I got a starred giant ray yesterday i wasnt mad lol
That's actually insane lol
I wonder if there's any drop rate % after a number of fish cuaght
It's a total rng )): I also wish there's a pity at least for an epic fish
Could someone get back to my earlier questions, please?
was it like yesterday morning about this hour? cause I fished right next to a guy that caught one xD
yea, but i was alone if i remember corectly
On the little platform on the lake near Einar
i was the other side of the lake where the tailor stays at night
Aww that wasnt you then
yea maybe
Rng for sure i was trying to catch something else uncommon and took me more time than ancient fish 😛
oh wow haha
So, the difficulity for fishing is based by 2 aspects:
- the rarity of the fish you are trying to catch
- quality of the fishes (star quality is harder to fish than non-star quality)
Each bait gives you different fishes, there are 3 types of bait:
- no bait
- regular worms
- glow worms
higher bait = fish has more selling cost = higher exp gained
To answer your questions:
- I usually use "Minor Rod Health Booster" attachments and drink Fisherman's Brew, that's enough for me to get even the star quality Epic fishes
- If the purpose is leveling up, obviously Glow Worms fishing is more effective than Regular Worms. But if the purpose is to catch certain type of fishes, then you need to adjust it to your needs
@spring tartan Thank you very much, helps a lot in setting things up before possibly adjusting it a bit as needed later 😉
Is the Thundering Eel out the game? I used so many worms already and i don't get it 😦
No worries! The adjustment I mentioned is about changing your bait to the fishes you need
rng goddess is a B* this morning
I got it just last night hahah, should just be a rng
I used already 200 worms. 😦
I hate when it happens hahah, still wishing you the best luck!
Thanks 😄
first glow worm in a river and I get a starred flametongue ray but 100 glow worms in the lake and no sign of the ancient fish 
Fishing isn't showing the parenthesis...i figure it's a bug, should logging out and back possibly fix it do you think?
just zoning should help or even getting a ride from stables in the same zone.
give me your flame ray rng
Zoning worked! Ty!
Changing zones. Aka going back home or from Bahari to Kilima.
Oh okay and it helps with rng ?
It helps with bugs
im so tired hahaha
Holy butts, y'all...I just got the no reticle glitch while fishing, on a flametongue ray, and caught it anyways
JESUS CONGRATS
The chest upgrades are available at the register in tish's shop (not the guild store with tish, the one physically in the furniture shop)
- I've been playing since day 1 of closed beta so I've been able to sell resources, crafted items, and cooked food for longer and at high values as they've rebalanced
- cooking parties and honey lures
ok thank you 
NICEEE you win the game, congrats!!
Where can I get a striped surgeon
I keep forgetting to sell my Flint
Is there any fix for the reticle bug?
It's not appearing at all any time I fish, now...
sorry, new player questiion, does anyone know how i can use worms on my rod?
I think it's right click (anywhere) while you have your rod equipped and worms in inventory
ohh okay ty!
log out and back in or switch regions then come back
does anyone know how i can get an aqarium to display starred fish?
it's automatic when you place them! you can place via the menu on the side of the H screen or from your bag
ooooh okay thanks!
So.. I've been trying to get the Ancient fish for a while now, as it's the last fish I need for my achievement, but didn't realise I needed to complete the bundle first for it to be released into the world. So after a few days trying to get another unicorn swordfish. I completed my bundle. But the achievement "Something in the water" did not trigger. Talking to Einar or Hekla does did not trigger any special text either.. Am I missing something? 😮
do you get the achieve after the bundle, or is the fish now secretly added to the world and I get it once I catch one?
how to best lvl up fishing from 6.5 to 7? fiosh only in bubbled water or just fish and that's it? 1st or 2nd map?
anything mate, depends on type of fish you catch
glow worm near oceans have given good xp for me
bubbles do give extra xp I think since gold star
ty
interesting, try asking in #🤝│quest-help
did, no response
bunch of people stuck on the new temple, so my question just got drowned
someone on reddit said they had the same issue, but managed to catch the fish, but idk
Is there a particularly good spot or general way to find Palium? I've been searching for a while and only one node
not anymore, they appear like flow trees now, it has a percentage to spawn instead of an iron ore
so best way is go iron farming
Ah that sucks, thanks anyway
shout in your world chat, see if anyone is out mining
used to be in caves, and people would shout out, but now they are rare spawn and people tend to be less ..sharing
Well, they used to be a bunch of them in the very same spot quite often, now usually you see just 1 at a time, so shouting makes less sense... and people still often don't respond to Palium shouts, even if doing FT close by, I've tried.
I've noticed this too. I've shouted out in the past couple days when I've found any. I think I've had someone interested ONCE.
Is there any way to stop the fishing bug in the river in Bahari?
If you mean missing brackets, then zoning or taking stable ride clears it.
Okay thanks!
omg i finally caught my first epic fish after 14 levels of not even getting one on a line
lollll it was a quality ancient fish, but I didn't get the achievement to go with it, so you can't win 'em all
is fishing bugged again? i don't see the green safe zone.
Any area where a lot of iron spawns can be good, on the flooded fortress cliffs is where I saw like 6 palium today because there's a bunch of rock/iron spawns near each other there so you just break em all and wait
has anyone been able to fish? I don't see the green safe zone so i cannot trach the bobber. Not sure if it's only in bahari that this happens just like the always-long-cast bug before.
i feel like the change to mining pallium set the game back to being tedious....
Common bug right now
traveling or relogging can fix it
4392 oysters later and I FINALLY get the smooth pebble!!!
Agreed; I hope they adjust the spawn rate or alternatively make an instanced area that randomly generates ores like SDV's quarry. People don't exactly call out when they see Pallium like they do with flow trees, and ngl it's a little hard to see sometimes
Ore compass needs to be reworked. Tried it for the first time today. It highlights all iron and pal ore. Could not tell what was what with how full the radar was. Kept ending up at mini iron nodes. I don't mind it leading to iron but maybe change it to just large iron nodes so the radar isn't so overfilled and the tracking that node doesn't feel like a waste.
Yeah the ore compass isn't great - I thought it'd be for silver, gold, and pallium but it's for everything except stone and clay
Are Waterlogged Boots dropping recently?
Yeah, I got a few when fishing
Thank you!
I tried to scroll through all the comments of late in case someone has already said this but I didn't see anything so I apologize if this is a repeat. Since the first patch, when I cast into "fish bubbles" when it comes time to "reel it in" it just comes back to me, no fish hooked. Almost every time this happens. When I fish in regular water with no bubbles, no issue. Anyone else having this issue? It's driving me crazy!!
Are the home pond and Kilima cave cursed with no star fish?
Pyroflow Bobber obtained From Flamerod Bundle (https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Pyroflow_Bobber)
hy guys, any tipp for the void ray? i use right things, but more than 400 bait and nothing....
Sadly nothng comes to mind, except asking for refund on your current luck charm 😦
Circles difference is, that you get starred fish
I am someone who always reccomends recasting
It drove me less crazy
Except in the hotspots ripples of course
... but are you fishing in a cave?
With glow worms right
yes
Good good
im really unlucky
If you want to save worms you can let the fish go away
Pull out
Recast
As long as you keep the bobber in the water you get the same fish over and over so you have all the time in the world to check what fish it was
Then recast
I find it less stressfull and needing less consistant attention

finaly
RNGsus likes listening to our complains and at times even rewards us for them 😉
Omgosh I need this one! Where were you fishing for it?
Is striped surgeon hard to get?
Hi guys, does anyone know how to find palium? I was looking forward to getting the fine pick and finally mining it but now I can't find it anywhere 😢
It can spawn anywhere iron spawns in Bahari, but I've found very little since that recent change.
Okay, thankyou!
I recommend going to the cliffs in flooded fortress tbh there's a lot of rocks/ore deposits in a small area so break it all and wait for respawn
might also work with hideaway bluffs? there's clusters of deposits there too
its the same with flow trees, find a section with a lot of trees, chop em down, wait for flow respawns
Great idea, thanks! I will try. Need quite a lot for those investigator things.
This use to be the case before the last patch. They changed palium spawns tho so these areas are no longer dedicated palium spots.
They changed this on the last patch. Dedicated areas are no more for palium.
yeah its just like flow trees like i said
go to a spot with a lot of them, break/cut everything, wait for respawn
i didn't say they were the spots they spawned specifically, but that a lot of rock/ore spawns close together, so they can be farmed for palium like trees are
I went to flooded fortress yesterday and saw like 6 palium deposits along the cliffs
of course, not in the spot they used to spawn in, but where rock/iron is in general beause that is how it is now
I found some!!🤩
No, go fish with Einor.
I need to make the fine axe. It requires a standard axe. I thought that was the one I had. What do I do to get one? Thanks
Don’t know why out of everything this took me long but I finally got it at the lake with Einer LOL
i mean it goes makeshift to standard to fine, so if you have already upgraded from makeshift then you just need 5 iron bars and 10 heartwood for the rest of the recipe
When upgrading your tool, the process consumes your old tool.
Or to put it in anotherway, your old tool is part of the recipe for the new tool.
If you break your tool, i.e. use it past the repair level, it regresses to its former level.
So repair in time.
i cant see the little fishing circle showing whether my fish is in the circle or not, any fixes?
restart the game
Sometimes re-logging or changing servers can help
i just had to go home and come back and it was fine
sickkk i need a starred one too unu for my fish room
Fishing is still bugged for me even though my pole did stop casting into the next server LOL now the fish just jump off the line.
Does it only do it when you cast into the "fish bubbles"?
Yes ! you too?
Whats the respawn timer for iron/palium nodes?
circle back around and it should be respawned.
Yes, nearly every time I cast into the bubbles it doesn't pull in, the line just comes back to me.
Dang it!! So frustrating.
autofail bug, yeah, sadly common for a while now
made me lose a starred void ray once lol
Yes it is! I have been working on a quest for Elouisa for like 2 weeks where I need 5 starred uncommon fish and I still need one. I want to say that fishing in the fish bubbles works maybe once out of 10 tries. It makes it nearly impossible to get a starred fish.
Is there a trick to catch fish?
Somehow I can't get the hang of the fishing system... I fail all the time.
When fishing, the goal is to keep the bobber (not the fish) in the safe area (between brackets) and click+hold the mouse to reel in fish. Do not reel when fish is jumping in the air.
You can boost your fishing performance using fisherman’s brew, fish dishes and various hooks (only one hook can be equipped at a time; hooks have limited durability)
Yeah but I can't manage to keep the fish in this safe area. Especially when I have a bait equipped. :/
Temple question, if you dont want spoilers dont open
||Can you get the new fish starred or just the bug?||
try to get your hands on a fishing buff like fishermans brew or minor safe zone boost etc
yes, but you have to ||finish the extra temple room that opens after you're done||
||Got it in the meanwhile but thanks! ^^||
i just caught my first flametongue ray...but it's a quality. should i put it in the bundle or wait for my second?
id keep it if you want one to display
sounds good. no guarantee i'll ever catch another quality
on my 1st ever trip with glow worms I've got a starred Giant Goldfish, then on my 3rd I've almost pulled in a starred Void Ray. Fortunately, at least I've lost the Ray in a fair fight and not to the hotspots' bug, cause then I would be really upset. Btw, any way to minimize the bug's effects (loosing like 15% of my starred fished to it at least), starting to pull fast or a bit later, anything that would lesser a chance of the fish going away without even eating the bait?
on my third void ray, but the hypnotic moray still eludes me 
i'm about to have a mental breakdown fr. I have used EASILY over 100 glow worms and still cant catch the dang Swordfin Eel 😭
NOOOO I'm so sorry 😭 hopefully you have better luck going forward! Rng is so mean
Thank you ❤️
One day I'll get the unicorn fish and finally finish the waves bundles
the dream
congratz 🙂

I just finished the bundles, and I have a suspicion that using fishing boost food and effects also boosts fish rarity. I swear I never once saw the epic fish until I started using food/boosts and then I found them super quickly.
i have found 2 times the gigantic kilima ray, but i still haven t found tha ancient fish. the ancient fish chances to catch it are lower than the ray?
thats RNG baby

i swear to god, when i will find it ...i will place it at the entrance in my house 
I found one literally the cast after I caught the kilima ray, but I lost it 
nooooo
🫂
hi guys, where can i get the energized piranha? and what bait should i use?
Kilima rivers with worms anytime
so uh, I just caught a midnight paddle fish without being about to see the safe zone guides
and its starred
When does night end? at 6am or earlier? 3am? for fishing i mean
3am
oki
the dark blue part of the clock is night
okay i'm stupid... i've never even realized i could use the clock to check
i didn't even realize there was a clock there :))))))
i've seen it but never stopped to think "oh i can just check here" LMAO
been playing since closed beta, sometimes i surprise myself with how dumb i can be
lmao
Does it matter what bait you use to find makeshift furniture?
You can get them regardless but there's higher chance with glow worms and in hotspots
How many glo worms did it take you guys to fish up the sushi recipe? I’m starting to think it’s a myth. 🤧
Not gonna believe me, but 1,
Fished it up on my home plot with my first glowworm.
… you’re right. I DONT believe you!!! No freaking way it took you one try! 😾
I’ve been sitting on my home plot fishing for over an hour.
Dont know what to tell you besides perhaps give me your username..
Jae Lucky 🤦🏾♀️
I only want the ‘lucky’ part 😀
It’s hard out here and you’re making jokes. 🤧 i don’t even know what that mean 😅
Its ok, I know i was extremely lucky, keep at it, it will show up.
Thanks, me and my last 3 glow worms won’t give up.
Recast and you wont use glowworms
Unless you want to catch every fish of course thats valid
Drives me insane though i prefer recasting lol
Will be doing this, wish me luck
i'm trying to catch the giant kilima stingray for the cloudcurrent bundle but i keep seeing the same fish when i fish agh 😩
god yeah, it took me 3 irl days for trying to catch one
welp i have the exquiste fishing rod and even the same bobber to go with it bc i thhought that would help in getting one LOL
*thought
honestly? u just gotta keep trying
Make sure youre fishing in the right time
I recasted earlier for a bit and got a regular then did all the hotspots in the area and got a starred
Good to know its in that bundle so i have a use for the regular one
what time is best to fish for it
If you let a fish u dont want go intead of hooking it u dont lose to bait
Use paliapedia or the tracker website it makes it easier
Has count downs and availability timers
u want to try dawn, day and dusk
the wiki has times and locations
I love timers i find it helpful lol
i recast my rod when it's not the fish i want
Go to fish here and sort by kilima lake and "available" and its cool to just see a consise list
https://www.paliatracker.com/
Took me 3 days if not more to get one of the epic fish from the bundle just for the game to do the thingy where it swims away even though you pressed the reel in button
I was so upset
Autofail is my enemy
i got a sapphire, and saw that it sold for 1,5k 
Is there any way to avoid it? Left the game right after😂😂
fricking screamed of happiness
I have gone through over 1000 iron ore and never found a sapphire
this was the first time i found one, im in need of money so like 
I have found every other starstone day 1 of their release except that one
I just want the achievement lol
im missing 2
Have they officially said anything about something going on with all the Palium? Where did it go?
You can find it anywhere where iron spawns now
They changed it so they spawn everywhere iron spawns so like flow trees you have to be actively demolishing for new spawns
okay, so farming an area works?
i found 2 in flooded steps
I think flooded fortress cliff sides and hideaway bluffs are good spots to break everything in site because they have a lot of iron
Yeaa
another sapphire 

im trying to get the amethyst and the emerald now 😭
No, iron has a static spawn rate, now both pal and iron do. <sigh>
I cannot get the flameray for my life. I have tried for 5 in game days straight 3-6
it can be rough it took me a while of off and on trying
Not found pal OR gold in awhile.
I just caught it lol
hi guys, what is the most helpful hook to catch unicorn fish and giant kilima stingray ?
I caught it with the exquisite rod and no mods/buffs/food (apart from the glow worm of course) but from what I have seen, people like to load up to the eyeballs on gear/food/buffs so idk what to suggest really!
Hopefully someone can chime in with a good setup for it!
Hi guys, is fishing in kilima fixed? I've been trying for days to get the mutated angler for the bundle, finally 2 bite in kilima's temple but that horrible bug made me lose them
And for some reason I can't get it in Pavel mines
fishing in general autofails on hotspot/bubbles sometimes and fishing reticle ( ) disappears sometimes
Any good spots to look for pallium?
II was going to ask about that too. I used to just camp out at a few spots and mine throughout the day. Now with the change I don't know the best way. Does anyone have a mining route they would be willing to share?
Palium now spawns anywhere that iron spawns. I've found that the mines are usually super picked over, so I like to head up to the northern edge of the map and then hop along the tops of the cliffs there to get iron - should work just fine for Palium, too
The cliffs just south of Tamala's house are also usually a good bet for iron
(you can get iron in a lot of places in southern Bahari, too, of course, but I've found that those are usually more picked-over than northern Bahari)
Just caught one with glow worm and fisherman’s brew . . Have the emberborn bobber thing don’t know if that helped.
does the size of the node matter when looking for starstones?
I would've never imagined that a fish in a game can make me so happy lol
OOOO LUCKY! Congrats
Am I overlooking them or are there no fishing clothes in the rl store?
i swear to god if i get another quartz or onyx from these copper nodes 
just give me the damn emerald 
Gosh I just miss these old pallium spawns
I’ve been out here for an hour and didn’t spot any pallium
just mine iron nodes
and u might get palium spawned where the iron was
i have 14 quartz and 5 onyx, but no damn emerald 
I still miss two gems, the rarest gems. :c
rip
Lucky. :c I managed to get emerald and I got a very nice surprise with amethyst. So I'm still stuck with the missing two. Just wanted to complete that achievement. Lmao

i just want the achievement 😭
i mean, ig its good that i get other stones too bcs i can sell them
yea
but i just wanna complete that achievementtttt
currently got 3k worth of quartz
would the most optimized way be like mine an area and wait for it to respawn or do the whole iron route ?
try, try try until you finally succeed.
i just run around and mine every single stone i see
iron
stone
everything
currently. I got 19k worth of starstones in my backpack 
maybe I should start mining like cray... meh lazy. well I have switch now... maybe... maaaybe... tempted
ive been mining since crazy yesterday. Thats all i do currently
im in need of money
so
same. I'm gardening atm trying to get that income... but that's a slow going. lmao
pretty sure i was mining from like 10pm-3am yesterday
yeah, mining is quite fast. I sell the starstones i get, aswell as some of the stones i have bcs my chests are full 😭
currently level 14 mining, half wasy to 15 💁♀️
mining has become my life
How do I get fish, I lost one
I'm weird with all my levels, I want them all to be equal. lmao
currently mining is level 8
and fishing is level 6... I hate fishing T T
i was like that at first, but then i got too lazy
im fishing level 10 weee
my boyfriend says im addicted to palia. Idk what he's talking about 
trying to convince him to play it with me but he's just like "but theres no combaaaaaat"
This is one of the reasons I love Palia.
I like combat but not always so Palia is awesome. ❤️
yea, i like palia bcs i can play it while im studying bcs i listen to my school books. I dont have to focus on fighting and if i dont want to i dont have to do quests to focus on. I can just listen to my school book and run around mining or whatever and focus on the book
Nice ❤️
I just had the ||Ancient Fish|| on my fishing rod and then my fishing line snapped. Please send emotional support. 😭
CONGRATS! 
Wooot! You have done it! Now treat yourself to something nice for your success!
where on earth do i get a yellow perch and a bahari crab?
just got a rainbow trout for the cloudcurrent bundle. now to get the 3 oter fish but it'll be a pain in the ass agh 🥲
*other
Wouhouhou ! 😁
Just had a star ancient fish get away, I’m so sad
Why am I having a hard time catching a Kilima Greyling? Is this fish real? What am I doing wrong? 😩
I've done a lot of river fishing, and I rarely catch them. Not sure why, but they do feel waaaaay rarer than they should be. It is real, just gotta keep on keeping on. Personally, I find that the fish that can be caught "anytime" are the most rare. Not sure if it has something to do with the pool of fish or whatever, but 
Interesting, thank you so much!
Is there a link to the clay nodes?
I'm having issues...
I can't even mine in Bahari anymore...i've come across exactly zero palium since the update, a handful of stone, and 3 iron. Bahari is just empty of mining nodes now and it's frustrating
Do higher rarity fish give more xp towards fishing level?
Follow up question then, where's a good spot to level my fishing skill?
Probably the cave in Bahari Bay - I think, the fish are easiest to catch there and it seems not to run out of hotspots (cave in Kilima does not have hotspots). I also like to run along the coast and around the lagune in Kilima fishing only in hotspots.
Which leads to my question, with which I came here. Wiki says: "Each environment has a limited number of fishing hotspots at any given time." Does "each environment" mean each biome on each map (f.e. each river spot on Bahari map, which would explain cave's not depleting it's hotspots, btw)?
hi guys, i bring up again my ultimate question since i didnt get prompt answer :
what is the most helpful hooks to buy in Einar in order to catch epic fish ?
Well, sushi gives you max rod health, recovery I would probably not care that much about, so it seems like the choice is between safe zone size and speed - I would just experiment with both, cause this would depend on your agility - for a lamer, like me, size would be more important 😉
hmm interesting, fishing is also my weakest point, keeping the bobber on the bracket is quite difficult with mouse on PC so i think i will try with safe zone size, thanks a lot !
I'm just using minor boosts, but for me the brew (size) is certainly more useful, than the stew (speed).
Ok so kinda dumb question, but is there a difference between the starred fisherman's brew vs regular? (i.e safe zone size or duration)
Not in duration for sure. Size I also think is unaffected, but I may be wrong.
I don't understand why there would be the chance to make star versions then?
Hello fishing people. I tried to google this and I think I missed info about this, what exactly is the point of fishing nodes? 
can't even display it SMH
Same mechanics for all cooking/frying? Also, the price differs, if you decide to sell it.
thats how you get starred fish
Thank you!
im bad at going to bed
off i go i swear
I noticed lol
Going to bed is not the greatest problem, because I'm bad at staying in bed, lol
They say "sleep is for the weak" and I keep forgetting, that at 65 I'm already a bit on the weak side 😉
i use all the food buffs for fishing, even trying to get buff from other's while they're fishing, exquisite rod and a hook from Einar, still failed to catch unicorn fish and giant kilima stingray 
Well, the boost from other players only makes the fish bite faster - unfortunately no other effect on the minigame.
ah i see, i thought it was make the reeling time become shorter
AFAIK, no, but getting 1 fish is like maybe 15% faster altogether (with 5x boost).
shores of kilima
Fishing alone in Bahari cave I'm always afraid, that someone will sneak on me and push me into water...
I still can’t get the sushi recipe, void ray and unicorn fish
I have all star fish, but I don't get the Accomplisment. And i don't know which one i missing from catching because all the Accomplisments are black.. Sad
How do I catch fish, I got one but lost it
Also, can you access tutorials at any time?
Hold your fishing rod and cast it into a deep body of water
Or the long version here: https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Fishing#Mechanics
I've found some really huge fish in Bahari rivers. It would look splendid in a glass jar, but what bait should I use to catch it?
Does anyone know how to fix the bug where there is no highlight when you fish ?
I was told relogging helps
Does fisherman’s brew help when fishing?
Relogging does work but you can also just leave a map and come back
Whatevers faster
Thanks guys
I tried to leave to another zone and the same bug occurred while relogging is just fine
Bad luck, I guess. Zoning or just using stables so far has always fixed this for me.
Same ^
it does! it increases the size of the fishing brackets so it's harder for the fish to escape.
I thought so . . Somewhere in a recent video on YT someone said they are useless . . So I thought I’d double check. Thanks for clarifying! ☺️
If I use just 1 boost, I use the brew.
I’m a new switch player and thoroughly confused on how to get copper bars. Most YouTube videos and guides says basic smelter, but I don’t have the option to use copper ore in my smelter. I then saw another video that says I need the copper bar recipe (which I purchased) and use another different updated machine (can’t remember the name but I think you can’t get it until your like level 5 or greater with mining). Can some pls give me some insight on this?
You should be able to get it from the basic smelter. Try checking with Hodari and see if it lets you buy the recipe
I did buy the recipe but it still won’t let me use them in the smelter.
@waxen canopy when you're in the smelter does it show the recipe on the left? If not it might be a bug
It didn’t no. But I’ll check again today and see. Hopefully it was just a bug and it’s resolved now.
please can someone explain this marker?
when you fish next to someone, you get a buff that reduces your hook time, aka you hook fish faster
it stacks up to 5
iron spawn rate doesnt' change when more people mine it, and is really slow. I'm just going in and mining everything in north or south bahari, then switching to another map. I also filed feedback to s6 telling them the spawn rate is way too low.
Like a lot of you probably, I got this as a gift for linking my account on switch, can anyone tell me what it does? I think I'm overlooking it on the wiki 
Its just a froggy bucket decoration
Theres one by einar thats pretty beloved
Now we get our own
Like a mascot character lol
Oohh
I didn't know what that one was for either and I was attempting to fill mine with water like that one lol
Only thing you can functionally use like that is the well you can use medals in the gardening skill shop for from badruu \o/
But thats not until after level 10 gardening
Okay, well thank you! ❤️
Can you buy palidum anywhere?? I need it but can't find any
You can find palium in Bahari Bay only... or try request and see if someone gives you some
Yeah I've been all over the bay, I know there was a bug but idk if it got fixed
After the last patches i noticed that palium is much harder to find.. but unfortunately those are the only ways to get it
I'll keep requesting it haha
Soo.. is there like a rule where I can't catch more than one rare/pic per day or somethng?
RNGod plays cruel tricks
I know it sound silly to ask but like.. this fishing bug that doesn't display the reticle made me lose an epic and now I can't seem to see it anymore than once a day. Friend caught one next to me earlier; haven't seen it since.
i need to get the stormray for the cloudcurrent bundle but it's so hard agh
mine are bugged
😭 i dont wanna bother guessing what i need or recatching oigjhowiegjweg
though I know what sting rays i still need
theoretically i have 1 of every starred fish i have so far in my aquarium building so i could check em over in palia tracker
i remember getting a thundering eel from someone as a gift, and gifts dont count towards the achievement.
I wish their patch notes would maybe give more detail about drop rates when they change them? like maybe give us a percentage or something? I just want to know numbers sometimes not that it will change anything but I am curious 🙂
they dont tend to tell us numbers
theres numbers for waterlogged chests, theres numbers for friendship points, yaddah yaddah
mysteries upon mysteries maybe paliapedia has more answers
Wheres the best place to fish?
You kinda wanna fish everywhere to get all different types of fish
And use no bait, then normal worms and then glow worms
That way you get a great variety of fish (specially by fishing in a lot of different spots)
usually by water
Anyone know of a currently good strat to get palium?
We need it to make furniture but at the moment I'm only getting like 18 ore (3 bars) for around 2 hours
It kinda sucks cuz this way it'll take me years to make all the furniture I want
Any help is appreciated
Current strat being used is this
And yes I'm breaking the palium nodes even if they are not palium so palium will generate
Yes but is the lake better than ponds is the other places better than those 2 etc
Yes I had same experience seems Devs taken the palium for now. I wish they had left Proudhorn alone. That was a fun spot to get the Palium for furniture! Hope they put the spawn back there soon.
Ye I think they straight up just removed those spots which sucks
But I can see how they were op spots
Removing them completely kinda sucks tho, the rates right now mean we can't make furniture at all even playing 2/3 hours a day
Kinda really sucks atm
what ive found is there are different fish sure, havent done the math on which more money comes from but, fishing can be done without the fish circle, the fish circle seems to only raise your chance to get a "star" fish.. so justfish anywhere wait and stuff will happen
This route no longer works. They made palium spawn in the iron nodes, and changed all the palium nodes to these combined iron/pal nodes. But iron spawns a lot slower and never increases in response to players mining. So... yeah, palium spawning is super low right now, and there's no way to know if someone else came through and took all the pal or not.
I'm able to get 10-16 pal ores in a little over an hour of mining, but I'm level 150+ in mining and know the iron node locations really well.
I've sent in feedback asking S6 to increase the palium spawn rate. Other than that, there isn't really a strategy that helps. Do a big loop, mine everything, dont expect anything to respawn while you are still around.
Thanks so much, this is what I've been experiencing too
Iron nodes spawning palium is kinda crazy and definitely feels wrong but ye, Def not enough spawning
I'll fill a feedback thingy too
Thanks 😊
Fishing at spots will give more XP and glow worm fishing even more. I've done the math
In kilima best star fish I've got in one round is 18 fish and you can visually see your progress
Plus if you want to level up quickly just fish all spots the entire map then change servers and do it again. Works both kilima and bahari
Where can I fish barracudas?
bahari coast, evening and night , glow worms
Thx 
list of all fish and bugs
you can select/ deselect any fish you catch. it will help with the achievements
I need access
😩
I didn't know that page existed xD
sorry i created this before i knew of the website lol
But thx to both of you 

how does one actually turn fishing to profit
do you just cook it?
or sell directly
if i was just starting to fish do i buy worms since no worm farm
youll unlock worm farm at level 4 just keep focus up, you can also request some worms from others
At the beginning rather catch and sell fish, and then buy worm farm. Worms are kinda expensive to buy but you can always make request. When you will have worm farm, prepare grilled fish (more expensive fish will give you more worms) and put it into farm.
oh ok
Does anyone know how or when you get the recipes for ceramic and for the bronze bar?
You buy those recipes from hodari
Anyone fishing? - ign; Zenla Morella
Hi, where can I find oily anchovies and unicorn fish?
oily anchovies: bahari river with worms
Ohhh okay! I was fishing by the coast. That explains it. Thank you so much!
unicorn fish: bahari coast with glow worms during day time only
Got it! Ty!
day time is active in 7 minutes
👍
anyone know what time/how often mining nodes respawn?
caught my first radiant sunfish
I wish I could mine these!! 😣
hiii, does anyone know any tips for how catch a void ray? bc im -150 glow worms and nothing
its exhausting
Pray to the RNG god 🙏 also, to avoid losing yr worms, u can check what fish comes up and if it's not the void ray, just reel it back after the fish goes down again. Dw about missing out on the fish cuz the same one keeps coming back, u gotta recast for a new (sometimes same fish cuz they're common) fish to get on ur hook
Mining node don't technically respawn, they spawn in new places when the old one get mined. They can only spawn in empty spot that can host them.
People need to activly be mining all around
So if you just walk around and hope to mine only Palium... tough luck.
ohh okay, so the moment i mine a node in one place it spawns somewhere else on the map? is it always the same (if i mine a copper it'll spawn a copper) or is it randomized?
Copper would likely be copper i think? but iron can be stone or palium im pretty sure?
Or is thst not how it works
Is it like only a set amount of palium will spawn at a time that would suck lol
if i'm seeing nothing but rocks do i have to break them to get more ores to spawn?
Fishing is hard I just got passed the tutorial and all my fish run away
You get used to fishing just takes time
Yes - something else can't spawn in an occupied spot. Could just be stone again of course, but clearing means there's a chance for something else
I can not for the life of me catch a fish after the tutorial
what does a person have to do to get an emerald around here (lol)
Mining regular stones can also give you starstones, which while they aren't palium can be sold for bank
this is my SECOND mining run i'm already sitting on like 70 copper bars from yesterday 😭
Plus you always need glass/ bulbs
I basically always have my glass furnace burning through extra stone, so I can make bulbs to sell. It's a pretty decent markup on regular stone
Well, better than nothing anyways
can anyone think of any convenient uses for 358 copper ore (and counting)
Start making any deco with copper and decorate really
Helps with furniture level
oh that's true my furniture level is like 2 bc i forget about it
I do it with iron
Have lots of iron
Plus why do have so much copper? You should mine more iron cuz you get gold ore that way
Better than copper imo
i want an emerald
there are only so many ways i can get hassian's relationship level up
so, am i missing something about mining? how do the nodes work? ive been wandering around looking for copper and its pretty much non existent, ive got more silver from finding secrets than anything and cant do anything with it.
the only reason i have copper bars is cuz i can request them. is the respawn rate just that bad?
does anyone want to fishing together for week quest ?
i've been using this map https://www.paliamaps.com/pages/Kilima.php
from what i've seen there's always copper somewhere, but you might have to run around a lot to find it (there will be areas someone else has just mined with no nodes at all, and then there will be areas with five coppers in a row)
where at lenzeco
up to you , I just want to fishing 10 time for week quest
also, if you're online rn, i mined about 400 copper ore today so i could send you some lol (ign?)
barhari day time ?
shadowkid774
invite you already
also just run around killama for copper there sould be tons
i'm guessing you're HomelessBob, i sent a friend request (i'm altan)
thanks! and yea, ill find ONE randomly. then spend a week going through the mines or places where youd think copper would be. i just wanna upgrade away from the makeshift tools. now im ACTIVELY looking. still no copper
genuinely you may need to make a circuit of the entire kilima map
also yeah that
also add me so i can send you copper
or don't
but please let me know whether you want to like. soon
i meant to go to sleep
places with lots of rocks in the area 🤣
are you done with the copper requests
nah just run along the mountins in killima and you will find a bunch
yes!
Silver is a rare drop in copper ores and sometimes even helps to change servers if your not getting silver ore but I've noticed they are getting to aquire
thanks!
I get rare flowstones before I get any silver ore which is really annoying
what are flowstones ?
ill see silver littered everywhere when im over on that map. but cant mine ANY of it cuz i need the tool
probably meant starstones
they did lower the rate didnt they
Silver or starstones?
Plus some servers are better than others I have noticed
With gold as well
i just know its a mining node that looks silver, there was one blue one. all i get is "your tool isnt strong enough"
Yes it does
That's palium
It's not silver
well yea, i was meaning when im over there. im not over there now while looking for copper
I get no gold then jump servers and poof getting gold consecutive ores
My best run had 10 gold ore and just 200 iron ore
Before the update tho
i got like 3 gold ores after 20 iron nodes
this map is super helpful
the good old days mining pal
man still dont get why i cant upload images
what was all that you were selling ?
all loot form an hour of mining at flooded fortress
pal mining
the first pic ?
before the update tho
ohh sorry that was wrong pic
oooh
that was just a bin full of star apple jams
a pet project to kep me busy
doing a star apple tree seed now lol
i have 3 of those growing
getting like 75 star apples from harvesting them all lol
wilding
yeah im binge growing them with harvest boost fert too
yeah i put harvest boost fert water retain crops and grow boost and quality up crops all around my treess
i have harvested 2 times and watered them once xD
mine are a row of nine trees lol
lol
nothing fancy
i thought about doing that but i want max i can get
yeah 12 hours for a tree is alot of time
like i just harvested for 75 star apples
my harvests are above 200 😂
the harvest boost really helps
the more days you harvest boost the better the result
i didnt know that
a 15 % increase approx on trees if you boost all 12 days
thats insane
right i was about to go mining XD
pal on the mountins you know
yea i never mine there either
was wondering the same
silver ore first copper i mined LOL
noice
i can start making jam
Good luck
@hot beacon I don't know if this is what you meant, with what i said, or if you thought Stardew buuuttt I guess this is another example. Even with Stardews sounds. I prefer Palias fishing mechanics over Stardew (not modded fishing which makes their fishing easier)
but i put together this little video 🤣 shenanigans pretty much at the end.
I’d like to have a simpler fishing minigame, or no minigame at all. I’m disabled and following the rhythm is very difficult for me. The rest of crafting is easy because no minigames are involved, I’d like the fishing to be more like in Animal Crossing. (I’m in the temple of gales and I have to fish to progress in the story, and this kills the game and the fun for me)
HOw freaking difficult can it be to find a Flametongue Ray, I've used more than 200 glow worms 
If you wait for the fish to go underwater again you can pull the line back without using the actual worm
Just takes durability of the fishing rod but not the glowworm
Do I need to fish on specific locations to fish some christmas stuff? Or is it random?
you dont fish up christmas stuff
ignore that part of the patchnotes
they are either poorly worded or accidental lies
Hi 👋 quick mining question, are quartz and citrine worth holding on to for anything or is it best to cash them in?
bwa hahaha I got
so now I only have one left...
; ; oh and they can be gifted to villagers who has star signs specifically to them. Other than that, sell them. I always sell my gems. I need cash. ; ;
Also collect one of one gem each get you an achievement which I'm attempting to complete.
Though you can hoard them... some people do. lmao
Ooh that’s good to know! I dread to imagine how many different types of gems there are to collect though 
10 gems in total. >u>; some are so common and some are so rare... anyway good luck! ❤️
Thanks 
some people hoard the gems because the gold caps at 300,000
so if you never sell until you need money you are technically holding more funds in reserve
300k? thats it? this game is so expensive yet theres a cap on gold thats not 99999
guess that alos means that nothing can ever cost that much in any store either then
idk ive never capped because i always spend it and i make 40k gold a day LOL
when i got near 300k they released building clusters and building limit increase and i bought like a million buildings
Most beautiful fish as a cherry for those achievements 
asking for a friend... how do you make 40k a day LMAO
let me say in #🌱│gardening
anyone knows where to find the radiant sunfich ? ive been trying for days haha seems like i cant get it
I've gotten all of my flametongue rays behind Kilima Inn.
Hmm... so, I've been trying to catch the unicorn fish during "day". All I seem to be catching is the Black Sea Bass and Yellow Fin Tuna. Is that normal? I've gone through all the fishing spots
are you using a glowworm?
yes
Unicorn is a rare fish, so it'll take a bit of time.
i mean its a epic fish so might take a while sadly. The one time it popped up for me it bugged out so trying to catch it rn as well
I am aware but ar those the only two fish oother than the unicorn that can be caught with glow worm?
Radiant Sunfish can be caught in Kilima's rivers using a normal worm, at any time of day.
also this one
different baits allows different fishes in different spots and time of the day.
Black Sea Bass, Yellow Fin Tuna, Cactus Moray and the Blue Spotted Ray.
I like this guide for helping to find things and what to expect. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15g9wAkZwKahEIDu8rSSXzA_-wYDaax4MD4cYkDxaWrM/edit#gid=0
Ahh, hmm okay. thanks! I guess I have gotten poor RNG 😛
Yeah, the RNG can be a tad frustrating at times. 🙂
For catching fishes I suggest official wiki with biomes overview:
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Biomes
Small tip when you are grinding star fishes, fast travel or relog could reset start quality spots.
Ooo the filter by biome is nice. Thanks @tiny badger
It's too bad there's no... Fishing spot == 100% star and else 5% or something
Question, is it worth it to save star fish or better to sell them to make money? I know I can display them at home and might do that for some but was curious what others do
I suggest saving 1 of every fish you up fish/bug to turn in for quests or bundles.
You can place starred items in the world in your housing plot, so all the fish will be in tanks if you want to. Otherwise, you can sell them.
heres a mega guide for the game
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1krXJMX0oRhz02hpKRlRAvyljFbNXTxaoMtrfSza_weA/htmlview#gid=0
fyi paliapedia and the tracker website have count downs for when a fish's time is and then a count down for how long it's lasting
a how much gold now???
when it was first added it was 8000. they realized real quick that was probably too much gold if everyone abandoned every other job to try and get rubies from mining
Any tips how to get the mutated angler? I've been fishing in the caves for about an hour and didn't got any... am I just unlucky?💀
using worms right?
i prefer recasting over fishing up every single fish it makes me feel less insane
Makes me wonder if they should un-nerf the dishes and revert the Starstone prices. 😬
Cake parties lol
How do you get copper bars
level mining, talk to hodari, buy recipe
Getting copper to smelter machine and u need to buy copper bar recipe from hodari
I can’t find where piranhas are found in Bahari Bai...
Piranhas are in Kilima rivers
Oh, thank you very much!
2 types of piranhas
Both in kilima rivers yep
I read up on the chat, from literally 2pm, ( yeah lots of reading ) but I want to bring back the money cap convo, I never get to even 70k, cause I always spend it around 20 to 30k . LOL the first Event was so hard to save for the stuff I wanted. T_T as badly as I wanted multiple of some of the things I couldn't get in time. T_T
I got to like 50k , and spent literally all of it in a matter of minutes, and mainly was on the food, trying to get the star quality, and that plushie .... T_T 
Ok, can someone help me, because the Wiki is really vague and unhelpful on this, what counts as "Morning" and "Day" for fishing in terms of actual times?
I believe morning is 3-6am, day is 6am-6pm, evening is 6-9pm, and night is 9pm-3am
I have fished and placed every single star fish but I only got the non star achievement. Can anyone tell me if there was a star quality fish I might have received from a quest that I placed and maybe didn’t fish it myself? I don’t know how else to tell which fish will trigger the achievement
better to cook them to increase their value, then sell them.
Cooking, cooking , cooking parties. They can generate tens of thousands of gold an hour. I'm always at the cap, and have placed starred dishing worth 670,000 gold on various empty plots, as a way to save beyond the cap.
Any good routes for mining cooper ores?
Copper or can be found almost anywhere, but it gets gobbled up in well-traveled areas. Look around the edges on the east side of the map, or the northwest corner, or around the remembrance garden. If your Kilima map doesnt' have a lot of copper, change maps by going home and coming back.
Thank you 🙏
I like down past the dragon shrine and along the Whispering Banks area.
Hi, since one week and more, fishing epic fish is harder than the other time. I got always my buff with the 2 food. Is this normal ? Does they change anything about it ?
How do you farm palium efficiently after the changes? I have big problems to get enough palium now 😐
There is a route you can take but it didn't work for me
Best try with some friends and ask around servers
I don't think they changed anything. Fishing for me was always difficult.
Sushi, fish stew, sashimi, fisherman's brew and a minor hook. That is what I carry if I want to fish
They take up 4 spots and you don't need focus food
I haven't played since september (I had stopped due to frustration of everytime i went to get palium i'd be followed by a group who'd then swoop ahead and get the palium before i could) and now that i'm back its all already mined no matter the time I come in, and I'm so frustrated with how everything needs it and it seems to be even harder to get now
Not sure if you're aware of this change, but Palium can spawn ANYWHERE in Bahari that iron can. So you can't camp the palium spots because there aren't any specific locations anymore. Palium spawns like flow trees now. Any node can be one when it spawns basically. I usually find 2-4 nodes every time I go to Bahari, but you have to be on the look out for them everywhere now.
Yeah, it IS a lot harder now. I've filed feedback detailing how bad it is and asking them to find some way to increase the spawn rate. The iron node spawn rate was always slow and unchanging, now we got that for pal, too.
yeah I saw the changes so i ran around everywhere iron was and i got a lot of iron but never found any palium
yeah i'm glad theres no camping anymore so its why i tip toed back hopefully and i found it actually harder to find now
Hmm, I used to camp palium all the time, but I always welcomed people to join me, and moved along if there were three or more people already there. You don't know the spawn rate or the spawn patterns unless you've watched them for an hour. We were helping everyone. Spawn rates were significantly higher everywhere on the map when people were camping a few locations.
But I also saw the bots.... Only a few, but I get that the only way for s6 to stop them was to change the whole pattern.
oh i understood why some folks were and i meant the folks who camped so no one but themselves could get it i mean- or that group that would follow other people looking for it and then swarm the node first.
Yeah, I had nodes swiped by those swarmers, too. And it would be so much worse now, because the Switch players aren't as clued in to chat or able to respond. I still hope they increase the overall spawn rate, or the percentage of pal nodes to make the new system not as grindy.
yeah I just put it on switch (can't say no to cute frog outfit) but prefer pc because I can communicate properly because its a social game haha. but yes, definitely increase the spawn rate. I can't spend all day running around bahari in hopes of finding a node 😂.
I tried the farming of the clumps in Bahari, but noticed players just waiting on high points until the respawn time and they swoop in and collect. I am now extremely careful with using my palium bars. :/
i only have one bar 😂 I can't do any of my current quests because they all require palium and the entire time i've played since launch i've been able to make.. one bar.
Is anyone trying to find/farming (or trying to farm because I can't find any ore) palium? Maybe we can make a group with people so we can help each other and cover a bigger area or something?
Is there a trick to leveling up fishing?
i need some glow worms 🥲
keep your focus up and increase your focus boost with renown at the phoenix shrine
Where is the Pheonix shrine again? where i spend renown to upgrade my focus?
where you spawned into the game inside phoenix falls
always use at least regular worm (can buy from zeki), try to get perfect catch (+20% exp) and star fish from hotspots if they spawn nearby (double exp)
star fish hotspots are the bubbles right
yes
I just tried fishing and I no longer have the "safe zone" circle. Is this a bug or a new change?
Where do you get worms
New bug, common but intermittent. Usually fixed by relogging or reloading the map area.
Can buy them from Zeki, or talk to Einar, as you progress, he will sell you recipes for "worm farms" that let you create worms from food.
Thank you
Hey all,
Question about fishing. So I’m currently at Fishing level 5 and I’m noticing it’s taking a lot longer to level up now. I can purchase the recipe for a Worm Farm. Does fishing with worms give more XP for the Fishing Skill than it does without a worm?
What’s the best ways to level up my fishing skill faster?
always use at least regular worm (can buy from zeki), try to get perfect catch (+20% exp) and star fish from hotspots if they spawn nearby (double exp)
Different fish give different amounts of exp with glow worm fish giving the most. My best suggestion for increasing level is to increase focus max and percentage and keeping the base full
I’ve been doing all that (excluding the worm part) and the exp gain is going by slower (not a lot of fishing nodes spawn).
Okay so I would have to eat constantly. What’s the best strategy?
exp difference for no-worm < worm < glow worm is large. Especially if you fish in lake with no bait (worst exp)
So fishing with a worm does in fact give more exp. That’s what I was asking mainly.
Does the worm count as bait?
I like to cook a lot of the same thing so food only takes up a stack or two then I just eat it when my bars low
What food do you make?
I prefer shepps pie or apple pie they give me enough where I can eat one or two to fill my bar depending on ⭐ but it depends on what your max focus is
yes, for fishing those are the 3 options. here is exp data for fish: https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Experience#Fishing
worm fish should give around 50-100% more exp than no-bait fish depending on location. For common fish, ponds and bahari coast have best exp
I don’t have the recipe for either of those unfortunately. My Gardening Skill is level 3. My Cooking Skill is level 3.
Question I know that fish stew comes from fishing in the Bahari bay but does the recipe come from a treasure chest?
@analog stone it's fished up from a bottle
Why doesnt it let me put the copper in the smelter
@jovial parcel it doesn't matter what food you bring with you. I just like a stack of something so it takes up minimum inventory space.
Oh okay thank you. Also does it come from the bubbles or no?
Do you have the recipe? If you do are you putting in at least 5 copper ore?
Ohh i probably dont have the recipe thank you for helping
I don't remember if it was but it might increase the chance. I do remember using worms for it
Alright thanks. Good thing I got a ton of worms
I’m new to the game, so idk a reliable source of food for early in the game. I’ve been making grilled fish and grilled mushrooms to eat or sell.
I figured someone more experienced at Palia than me would know and could give some pointers.
I tend to make one recipe and stick with it forever until I find one that gives more focus. What's your current max focus? ( You can see it if you pull up your inv)
Ok let's see if you're level 3 cooking then id say Ramen. (Gives you 125 focus or ⭐ gives more) or fish tacos/hearty veg soup (100 focus)
250 max focus
25% Focus Bonus
Anyone else had no luck recently with palium? I’ve been farming for ages and have only got like 2 ores in the past few days.
@jovial parcel start off with the ramen and keeps stacks of that and increase your focus bonus and %s and cooking. They'll help level up your skills faster/let you unlock food recipes that gives more focus
Oof that’s rough. One day, I saw a small deposit of what looked like Palium. Couldn’t mine it though lol only have Standard Pick.
It’s funny you recommend ramen because ramen 🍜 is one of my all time favorite meals irl 🤣
It's clearly a sign! This ramen is a lot easier to make tho
What do you need to make it? I think I need to purchase the recipe
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Ramen here's the recipe. You should be able to buy it from Reth
Lol now I wish I could build a coop and make eggs appear 🤣
🤣 that would be fun to add cows and chickens. If you dont want to spend money on eggs you can make the veg soup or fish taco and just gather mushrooms and spice sprouts
Yeah unfortunately I don’t have a steady income in the game just yet. I’m working towards the goal of first being able to make a Glow Worm farm (to sell those).
And once my Gardening skill reaches level 10, I plan to make an Apple farm with the appropriate buffs. That’s when I’ll be making plenty of gold quicker.
At that point, I’ll be able to afford to continuously buy ingredients for food like ramen.
same
Currently, I’m selling grilled fish and tomato seeds (from making too many with the seed maker).
Where do I find Anchovy?
Oily anchovy? Bahari rivers with worms
Anchovies yuuuum a bit much but yum. 😅 the saltiness eeeeeeeee
I do love the fishing in this game though
time to get level 7 fishing in Bahari, so I can get glow worm farm
Still can’t get a sushi recipe
are you using glow worms and fishing in a pond?
God this 5 fish quest for Elouisa is one of the most tedious things I've encountered so far xD
So that means you haven't done the bundles yet
I surprisingly got mine from the pond on my plot (using glow worms) good luck!!
idk if you were told but don't forget to increase your focus buff and always have focus in your bar
try doing it at home
if you're catching everything you can put the fish away in your storage box a lot faster and if you have an anvil and toolkits can fix your rod yourself too so you don't have to be switching maps, might save some time
or if you're recasting you're probably already good
i love recasting
Is pallium just like impossible to find right now? Or maybe someone just mined this server?
A little while back they changed it from decent spawn rates in specific areas to static spawn rates everywhere iron can spawn, it is much more rare at the moment
So lovely as soon as I need more for a project 🤦 so I should likely just run around the cliffs and all for it, tysm! Funny how they wanted to make mining more profitable with starstones then completely obliterated mining it seems
they also assumed changing palium like this would fix the lack of palium problem, ironically
Hey there 👋 Any tips for increasing leveling speed?
Yeah, thanks for the reminder. I wasn’t told to always have at least some focus in my bar. I was told that people typically eat to have their focus bar maxed out. Ofc, I might be mistaken 😅
the phoenix shrine
I hope they implement fishing boat parties like FF14
Aight so.. I'm sure people have mentioned this before but there are way too many posts to scroll through. Anyone have any ideas on how to catch the void ray? I've been in the bahari mine and the water ruins Day, Night, Morning, Evening for multiple hours. I'm at fishing skill 11 with glow worms, catching 100+ fish and finally got to a point instead of wasting GWs I'm not hooking and just recasting until it pops up and it has yet to appear. Did it just get removed all together?
the mine i caught it yesterday or the day before
glow worms took ages
im having trouble getting the giant goldfish
I got that in the Pond next to the farm pretty easily
I think this void ray is my last fish I need for the bundles 😦
thats where i been trying lol no luck
Maybe we need to swap hahaha
lol for real
Do you know if rare spawn rate is effected by catch rate? or is it just random at cast?
you can catch the mutated angler there too if you havent got that one
Yep, I've gotten the angler
i have a feeling its with catch rate
i think the game can tell how much times you fished in that spot recently but i really dont know
hm
recast instead i can't reccomend it enough i know you want to catch fish for money and leveling too but the sanity you lose doing that XD
recasting is relaxing
wym by recasting? just cancel it and do it again until u have the fish u need?
does that not use ur glow worms?
yes you do not lose worms if you let the fish go and back out and recast
Doesn't use a glow worm if you wait for the fish to let it go
you also see the same fish come back every time if you don't real in or cancel so you have infinite time to peacefully check what fish it is
If you don't reel it back in though the same fish just tries to snap at it over and over again
i got 2 unicorn fish in one sitting recasting while i was eating dinner with my other hand XD
it takes way less attention and focus
nice hha i still need one of them as well
Chests however you can't seem to cancel from what I can tell and it uses the glow worm bait so.. when i'm recasting over and over again those are about all that takes my bait away
cool going to have to give it a try
Yea, just let the fish let it go, reel it back in, and then cast it again to reset the fish spawn
ahh works nice
lets see if i can get this goldfish now lol
do the different bobbers actually do anything or are they just for aesthetic purposes
Just aesthetics from what I can tell
What really changes are the hooks attachments for boosts, worms for different types of fish, Morning/day/evening/night, Pond/lake/river/beach, and rod
schools of fish have better chance of yielding rare fish or no?
Schools are just for higher quality
I do get a lot of chests from those though
is it then possible that I need a better rod to catch certain rare fish?
I have the lvl 6 fine rod atm but after an hour in the water all I get in the cave are Albino Eels. Not catching them, just waiting for something else to jump
no thats bait and location and time of day related but fishing does get EASIER with better rod so you're more likely to succeeded
So I went down a bit of a rabbit hole and made this, as well as ones for bugs, bundles, and daily gifts. Thought there might be someone else here who might like it- just make a copy of it in your own drive. I use the fish and star icons at the top to mark which ones I have caught. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRLq9xPp2A5KcrdjeodzyNARfsbigToR7OkrVHp_V28/edit?usp=sharing
Does the ore compass work on copper? Need silver for emberborn stuff.
no cause its common LOL
Palium has really been impossible to find now. Holy crap
Yes, please give them feedback on their feedback form. Every little bit helps.
I know they changed up the pal spawns but did they completely get rid of nodes in pavel and hideaway? I barely see any nodes (pal stone or iron) in the old pal spots
I cant find any palium since a few patches:(
They rearranged all the nodes yeah.
Its so annoying:(
where do I find the ancient fish? the lagoon?
omg I just found palium xD I have to complain more
what is respawn time for palium?
ayooo got my ancient fish
Hi, hi! Just curious, I was wondering if there were any guides or tips on ettiquette when it comes to Palium hunting?
So far I've been calling it out in chat for others to get when I see it, but I just got to the point in the story where I should be able to get it, myself. Does everyone hit it at once, or do you just whack it once, or how does the collection feature work when there's multiple people hunting around or showing up to one location?
hitting it once guarantees you get the loot so people tend to make sure everyone who wants it hits it once if possible so if you are bothering to call it out and share it then that's the way
also you can always get palium yourself regardless of level
if you are casually playing and just pick it up and move on, you're fine
no one is expected to always share, you don't always have the time nor should you feel pressured to bother
all people ask is you don't go around sniping it from others when they're already waiting and sharing
Ahhh okay, rad, rad, I was wondering how that works.
Thank you very much! I like to call out when I can since it seems to be a pretty desired resource from my time wandering around aimlessly in Bahari, but that makes a ton of sense and takes some pressure off.
Thank you kindly!
I didn't realise that you only have to hit things once. It's only been a few flow trees, but I feel dumb for not realising.
To be fair, I don't think I recall seeing it mentioned anywhere in game. (I could have missed it, though; maybe on a loading screen?)
I'm just learning it now as well.
try being in bahari at midnight game time, a grove of several trees spawn and people call it out when its found and wait for like the ENTIRE server to show up lol
lol I need to upgrade my rod and use worms. I'm at bahari and the fisher next to me is catching eels and tuna. I'm getting...sardines
hang on i need to open up this channel for myself #🍳│cooking-foraging
there we go, posted a grove screenshot: #🍳│cooking-foraging message
it's kind of nice to see though, that the servers are encouraging a community spirit with things like the pallon ores and cooking parties, etc
it does go both ways, the community also has to make it a community
they do a pretty good job
The community's been very lovely that I've met thus far, it's very lovely to see.
Lots of community & sharing in-game and in the discord itself.
sad some people complain "this is more of a single player game" when honestly that's their own decision
but I digress
someone change back to fishing/mining topic before we get in trouble 
I just spent 2 hours trying to find Palium I now have 133 iron, 162 stone, 100 flint and 1 palium.
I am struggling
I just finished crafting my Fine Pick, finally!
Iron's a little hard to find in Bahari, haven't quite gotten used to the locations yet, but gonna go see if I can hunt some Palium with it.
glad it worked for you there's a bug where upgrading axe makes a sawmill instead 
I'm loving mining
and fishing. I had neglected it a bit, but having to do oily anchovy quest reminded me that I don't do nearly enough fishing
Oh goodness, I don't need more sawmills, my rapid button pressing when getting into the crafting table has already given me three of them!
That's good to know! I'm glad it managed to bypass that bug, just got to remember to repair it before it breaks!
Ohhh, I love fishing. I'm such a sucker for fishing mechanics, and I really like the way the mini game plays out.
my only beef with fishing, and it's kind of a big one. Is fishing only stacking to 5 in bag
Ah gosh yeah, it's not too bad once you get a couple of bag upgrades, but I always seem to hit Overflowing before I know it if I'm not paying close attention. 
yeah, my big goal is to somehow buy the 25k copper storage chest recipe
no idea how I'll reach it
I also need to use up the stuff I hoard
luckily, fish is useful for buttering up Zeki
it doesn't take long tbh
just save what you get instead of spending it
honestly i made a newbie alt and bought like all the bag upgrades and all 9 soil plots really quickly by mining copper while crops grew
only took like 2 irl days
so i imagine copper chest wont take too long if you're consistantly making some kind of income
I think you are able to get storage fairly quickly
upgrading it all the way seems pretty balanced with need, at least it was for me and I'm a bit of a hoarder
i ignored iron storage, still, to this day, never needed iron lol
I run about 9700 and flex day to day so I need the space lol
lol
I did a lot of bug catching early on, and sold lots of flint from mining, it adds up over time. Farming is a great way to make money though, especially when you get access to preserve and pickle making :)
I feel that hehe
Is quartz worth hoarding?
sell sell sell
all gems/starstones were introduced to make mining a profitable skill to balance out with the other skills that are profitable
they are also giftable, but there are other gifts
when the fishing brackets are appearing, what is best way to fix the bug?
if you mean they are gone, leave the map/zone, then go back usually works
if it doesn't then have to relog
thank you! i'll try that out
yeah. they are gone
makes fishing extremely hard, lol
yeah no XD very bad bug
zone reset worked! thank you!
[GAMEPLAY and MECHANICS Observations and Opinions will follow, DISREGARD if uninterested] Based on my experience before and after the patch, it is painfully more difficult to find Palium nodes now. Iron Ore must be mined to have a chance to spawn Palium nodes, and Palium no longer spawns at it's own independent places. Those who have enough iron already are essentially forced to mine iron anyway in hopes that when they come back, Palium would have spawned. To make things even more difficult, the Mining Compass item detects both Iron and Palium making it even harder to focus on Palium Ore. Is this difficulty and increased rarity deliberate? What are the intentions of the developers with this change? And what is the general consensus of the community regarding this topic?
I mean everyone agrees it kind of sucks lol
Just send feedback about it they tend to listen to the masses when possible at least eventually lol
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