better-mc-fabric

[echo kindle]

the only special part of paradise lost is the moas

they are cool to ride

and they go pretty fast

[oak fossil]

oh also this is kind of a misc question but if i edit the quest book does it affect it for all players on the server?

as an admin, its my own server

[past pine]

@oak fossil im not really sure how editing the quest book works but if what you do is on the server side it should apply for all

[sudden bay]

yes it does. You might have to save it before it takes effect though

[oak fossil]

great, i wanna make some custom quests for the server members to complete

how do you save it?

/ftb_quests reload or something?

nvm just found it

[wicked mountain]

crystalline flower saves time and reduces anvil cost compared to villager trades, since you can put up to 3 new enchants on the same book with it

[echo kindle]

its also extremely expensive

[wicked mountain]

the twilight forest progression system is pretty much self-contained in the twilight forest. I get the feeling it's kind of similar to a really big adventure map - figure out this riddle, go fight that boss to unlock X Y and Z area, that sort of thing.

[wicked mountain]

in xp, sure. but if you have a mob farm it's fine. I found one of those crypt dungeon things that had 5 zombie spawners within 11 blocks and that thing basically pours XP

[jovial bane]

is there a way to use better minecraft on a server?

[wicked mountain]

install the server modpack on the server using the powershell script (you're going to need powershell access), and make sure the clients use the client modpack. However major incompatibilities occur if you add other common server mods like Essentials, so I don't recommend adding anything

[jovial bane]

oh so its locally not on a server?

[sudden bay]

there is

[uneven night]

does better minecraft work on mac?

[jovial bane]

is there documentation

I've looked through plenty of youtube videos but

[sudden bay]

!serverinfo

!server

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[wicked mountain]

oh and probably the bumblezone item i use the most is the bee chestplate, which is like permanent jumpboost and MLG landings with no need for precise timing. It's great for early-game equipment

[winged wind]

does better minecraft work on mac?

[night birch]

yes

[winged wind]

is there like compatibility stuff we need to do or something?

[night birch]

have no idea, I don't own a mac

I just know it works because others have done it

[winged wind]

bruh

its not working for my friend lol

thats the only reason i ask

[sudden bay]

!moreinfo

[blissful stump]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[winged wind]

1. no

frick wait

1. no
2. prism launcher
3. 1.19.2
4. bmc1 fabric
5. launch game, then join a server.
6. no
7. ill ask her to do that
8. no not yet i will tell her to do that

[meager yacht]

!tps

[blissful stump]

Please click this link and follow the guide. If you are using a server host such as Bisect, you may be limited in your options and instead have a checkbox to use Aikar's Flags, which will also work:
https://github.com/brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks
If you can not launch your server/game after using these flags, then remove the word java from the start. Also, make sure you are using Java 18 on 1.18.2 / 1.19.2 and Java 11 on 1.16.5. These should be downloaded from Adoptium's website.

If lag persists, do the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[meager yacht]

no

its a modpack not a mod

!alternates

[blissful stump]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL.

To install ATLauncher, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATLauncher does not see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "New Instance". Click "Ok" on the opted out mods warning, then click "Open All" on the manual download screen.
7. Let the mods download, ATLauncher will grab them from your Downloads folder and automatically add them to the modpack.
8. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATLauncher, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATLauncher and paste the Saves folder there.
Because ATLauncher downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATLauncher also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATLauncher installed.

[meager yacht]

none of those errors mean anything

#faq

[lone prawn]

just the server lagging af, im guessing bc its aternos and not a paid one

[meager yacht]

!server

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[meager yacht]

yes

[meager yacht]

we cant help without #7

[meager yacht]

we offer no support for aternos whatsoever

!server

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[meager yacht]

paid & free

[sudden bay]

chorbrun

[lone prawn]

thank u

[wooden root]

hey, some tree blocks, after I joined a server, started like flashing, as if the block was visually bugged

is it because of modernfix

(I ask it here cause i played this modpack)

also, I replaced the modpack's version of modernfix witht he most recent one, since it was outdated

if anyone could help

[night birch]

you aren't supposed to update mods manually like that, they can break modpacks, revert it back to the version it is supposed to be and then see if you still have the same problem

[pliant knoll]

Has anyone ever had that special crosshair go away and change back to the old one? I dont know what I did but I dont have the special one anymore

[meager yacht]

!alternates

[blissful stump]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL.

To install ATLauncher, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATLauncher does not see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "New Instance". Click "Ok" on the opted out mods warning, then click "Open All" on the manual download screen.
7. Let the mods download, ATLauncher will grab them from your Downloads folder and automatically add them to the modpack.
8. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATLauncher, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATLauncher and paste the Saves folder there.
Because ATLauncher downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATLauncher also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATLauncher installed.

[tiny dew]

atlauncher fan club

[pliant knoll]

How is that supposed to help with the issue Im having with the crosshair

[meager yacht]

you are missing resourcepacks

you didnt install correctly

[pliant knoll]

But it was working earlier

[tiny dew]

the message implies it was there before

i wouldnt even say implies

it just says it

[pliant knoll]

I fixed it. Needed to re apply something

[meager yacht]

no

thats not how it works

it needs to be in a specific order

[jovial bane]

I get this when starting up the server anybody can assist

[meager yacht]

you need the modpack installed clientside

please read #faq for modpack installation

[jovial bane]

oh i need fabric installed ok ok

[meager yacht]

no

you need the modpack installed

please read #faq

[jovial bane]

understandable

[tulip sail]

anyone has a server that i can join

[night birch]

#community-servers-info

[tiny dew]

lmao

[night birch]

Better than Infinity 1

[tiny dew]

i also got this

[night birch]

gg

[shrewd wolf]

i was gonna say "how in the heck" but nvm.

minecraft logic

or modded minecraft logic

[tiny dew]

i got depth strider 4 though so at least i have that

nvm its also useless 😔

[night birch]

rip

[tiny dew]

except it makes my enchantment purple so useless isnt the right work

more like freaking epic

[shrewd wolf]

i got jumpscared by hot sun lichen

💀

[neat cosmos]

does anyone know a code to remove a curse of binding item

or a way to get rid o fit

[tiny dew]

is this something to keep you safe when youre afk lol

[night birch]

Believe you have to die with it on

[neat cosmos]

worth it'

[blissful stump]

how much ram does my mc server need for better mc fabric?

[meager yacht]

how many players

[meager yacht]

i guess so lol
i feel like its a trinket or armor piece you're wearing

[blissful stump]

2

[meager yacht]

4-5gb

[blissful stump]

i got 16 that's plenty 😄

ty

[meager yacht]

do not allocate more than 4-5gb

it will make the server laggier

[blissful stump]

o...

[blissful stump]

ive made this mistake before haha

[meager yacht]

yea it happens lol

[blissful stump]

how do i make it have less ram i'm using sparked mc servers

[meager yacht]

change the -Xmx arg

[blissful stump]

for me or the server i'm sorry lol

[meager yacht]

the server

[blissful stump]

where do i do that?

[meager yacht]

java args section

in dashboard

[autumn arch]

what channel has the link to take you to the website that lets you see the ip of a bmc server again?

want to try out a bmc server

[meager yacht]

#community-servers-info

[autumn arch]

thanks

[meager yacht]

you dont have the same modpack installed as the server

period

read #faq for modpack installation

[coral shard]

i did download 1.19.2 version of fabric

[jovial bane]

Is there a way to change information on the discord RPC

[meager yacht]

cool

[meager yacht]

the config file

[coral shard]

it worked after reinstallation but my server keeps crashing how do i fix that?

[meager yacht]

!moreinfo

[blissful stump]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[meager yacht]

there are 8 questions

please answer all 8

[coral shard]

1. didnt change any files
2. atlauncher
   3 )1.19.2
   4 )v18.5
3. well the server randomly crashes either loading the chunks or after leaving and rejoining the server
4. one the server lagged out but after 2min it as back orking but soon it crashed saying "Times Out"
5. Embeded file
6. i didnt check that

[meager yacht]

please read the readme in the server files

[coral shard]

i did i am using linux os and using the start.sh file to start the server

[meager yacht]

you are also using java 17

[coral shard]

yes

[meager yacht]

the readme says to use 18.

[coral shard]

it says 17

for me

[meager yacht]

yea i just checked

looks like sharkie put in the wrong one

just switch to java 18

make sure to get the 64bit one

[coral shard]

ok i will try

[jovial bane]

Hmmmm I haven’t found it

[rustic shard]

how do i add someone to my claim i need help

[meager yacht]

read the quests in the questbook

[jovial bane]

@meager yacht sir where is the configuration file for the discordRPC is it via clientside or serverside

[meager yacht]

the config folder clientside

[autumn arch]

How do you join a bettermc server?

[meager yacht]

same way as normal vanilla mc

[autumn arch]

didnt notice the multiplayer button on the main menu, dont ask how

never played a server

[autumn arch]

Why won't BMC1 open for my friend? Every time he opens it, it instantly crashes, he had 6 gigs of ram allocated which shouldn't be causing any problems since he has 32 gigs of ram. It crashes as soon as it opens even in the base modpack with no extra mods added.

He also has java 17 at the very least downloaded

[meager yacht]

!moreinfo

[blissful stump]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[autumn arch]

1. No he hasn't, but when he did add extra mods it still crashed
2. He tried curseforge launcher at first, it happened with that, then he tried ATLauncher and it still happened.
3. He's playing 1.19.2
4. He's using the 18.5 version of the modpack
5. Launching the game
6. He did once but it crashed the moment he set the game to full screen
7. A crash report isn't sent when it crashes
8. He didn't follow the performance guide simply because he doesn't need it since he has a very good pc already.

He said he'll try updating his gpu drivers later to see if that fixes it

This wasn't happening with him 2 days ago when I tested out my performance in a small multiplayer server that he set up

[sudden bay]

read #7 again slowly

[autumn arch]

Oh wait, lemme ask him rq to send me it so i can send it here

Might have to wait until the morning considering he's probably going to sleep right now

nvm here's what his latest.log says

pretty sure he had some extra mods for this one

but once again it was happening with the base modpack too

[meager yacht]

the game is started

there are no issues here

do not add mods to the modpack

[autumn arch]

it was happening when he didnt have an extra mods added either

[meager yacht]

then i need those logs

[autumn arch]

i asked him to start it up again without any extra mods

if it works this time then i dont know what was wrong with the other times he started them up without extra mods

he said he was gonna redownload it to ensure the extra mods are removed

It started up, but then crashed when he entered fullscreen again with no crash report like the other times

once again, the base modpack

[meager yacht]

#announcements message

[autumn arch]

ill send him a screenshot of that

also when he used curseforge the exit code was -1073741819

but it didnt produce a crash report either

anyways im heading to bed

btw the friend was @raven forge

telling you just incase he experiences any other issues (btw if you're wondering why he didn't just ask himself, he was busy doing other things)

[sudden bay]

Just follow the thing Chorb sent. If a crash report isnt produced send the latest.log.

[wicked mountain]

the latest log Gaming posted earlier doesn't even have the exit code

[sudden bay]

ok and?

[wicked mountain]

There's no sign of a crash

[sudden bay]

Does the game launch then?

[wicked mountain]

idk, im not the person involved. I'm just pointing out that the log was posted.

[sudden bay]

That was the old latest.log before he followed the steps.

[wicked mountain]

My guess is that windows is killing the program for some reason

[autumn arch]

the game launched when no extra mods were added but crashed the moment he entered fullscreen

but in other cases, even when no extra mods were added, the game crashed right as it finished starting up

i googled it and that exit code means outdated drivers, so that's mosre than likely the cause

anyways NOW ill head to bed

[sudden bay]

That was part of what Chorb sent.

[hazy apex]

you can automate it as well by having an item generator use a dropper to drop items into the flower which will eat the dropped item. Use an observer at top to turn off the machine when flower is at max tier.

[lone prawn]

@meager yacht if i self-host on my pc like u recommended, can it cause lag for me in other games? or in internet? i’m a streamer so i need to know if i’m risking it by hosting on my own pc
if that’s the case, could i host on my laptop instead?

another question, if i were to pay for a server in bisecthosting, how big of a server would i need to get? is 5-6G be enough for better minecraft 1.19.2 for around 5 players?

[meager yacht]

5gb is enough for 5 players yes

[meager yacht]

you would need a good computer & good wifi to host + stream + play

[hazy apex]

Are you in pile of pollen block? It should only be applied when you're in that block (filled up to eye level for stronger effect)

It sets the invisibility stat on the player to max in hopes of hostile mobs not seeing you (unless they touch you or saw you previously before you hid yourself). It will however make all angry bees lose track of you always

[still veldt]

Im using atl launcher but i still get randomly kicked from better mc, no exit code this time

it runs perfectly up until the kick aswell

so it doesn't seem to be a performance thing

anyone know how to deal with something like this?

[meager yacht]

!moreinfo

[blissful stump]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[still veldt]

no, only bsl shaders

atl launcher

1.19.2

playing the world for about 30minutes to 2hours

there is no crash report

and yes i followed the performance guide

[meager yacht]

please read #7 slowly

and answer #4

..

[still veldt]

there we are

[still veldt]

wow haha

i did that

hahah

[meager yacht]

[still veldt]

hahah so funny look at me i dont even computer fr

cringe

[meager yacht]

well

your logs are full of OpenGL errors

i'd suggest updating drivers

especially gpu drivers

[still veldt]

oh word will do

[sudden bay]

[pulsar pawn]

whats the ip ?

[sudden bay]

? #community-servers-info

[pulsar pawn]

@sudden bay is there an active better minecraft server ?

[sudden bay]

you can check it.

[native granite]

Better mc fabric -bmc1

[pulsar pawn]

@sudden bay can u just give me an ip of bmc server please ?

[sudden bay]

check it yourself and stop pinging me please.

[pulsar pawn]

i did check and there was only one

active

[sudden bay]

Then theres your awnser.

[flat tide]

can you pick up blocks ?

[elfin nebula]

Does Better Minecraft allow transfer of armor/weapon enchantment to book?

[lone prawn]

does anyone know the dia y level in better mc?

[dark canyon]

did u just replaced better mc by prominence 2 ?

[blissful stump]

How do I move this

the block info

[hardy valve]

do u maybe know how to fix that?

[sudden bay]

same as vanilla

[sudden bay]

No, Only plus

[sudden bay]

change jade config

[lone prawn]

wat is it then

[wooden root]

does anyone know why my game doesn't finish loading?

this didn't happen to me yesterday

the loading bar gets to almost the end, but then it resets itself

I tried reinstalling java and the modpack but nothing

[sudden bay]

#faq performance guide

[wooden root]

i cant find my specific issue

[sudden bay]

follow it

and dont click on loading screen

[primal valve]

can anyone tell me how to hatch the dragon egg? tried to look it up but only ever shows people playing the plus version

[sudden bay]

get the fame efffect

[dark canyon]

aok

[late mica]

Where can I find tea bushes? Please help

[elfin nebula]

Does Better Minecraft allow transfer of armor/weapon enchantment to book?

[primal valve]

how do i go about that?

[sudden bay]

read questbook

[uneven night]

is there an enchant limit in this mod pack?

[sudden bay]

yes but u can use the dragon anvil if it gets too expensive.

[autumn arch]

Yeah he updated his drivers, so it was a drivers issue

[autumn arch]

i believe it has charm, so it should

yes it does have charm

im assuming that's a charm feature, but it could be a feature with the vanilla tweaks mod

[night birch]

It's charm

[wind fiber]

how do your bring your worlds to 1.20

[sudden bay]

dont yet. Most mods are not ported yet

[wind fiber]

alright

ill just wait then

thank you

[chilly jewel]

how do I allow people to interact with my claimed chunks in xaero (I use essentials+ for multiplayer btw) (also 1.19.2 bettermc)

[blissful stump]

Hey how do i get better enchant levels i slapped some bookshelves down and it didnt do anything (1.20)

[lethal ferry]

Enchanting is the same as vanilla, iirc

[jovial bane]

my server has this message Mod biomemakeover is shipping outdated structure files, which can cause worldgen lag; please report this to them.

then

it crashes my server im for sure going to up my ram

[meager yacht]

you dont have the same modpack installed as the server

[meager yacht]

yes

[meager yacht]

same as vanilla

[meager yacht]

no

[meager yacht]

jade mod config

[meager yacht]

you dont have the same modpack installed as the server

[meager yacht]

ignore it

that has nothing to do with your issue

[meager yacht]

!moreinfo

[blissful stump]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[peak furnace]

Hey guys, just saw a villager with vein mining enchantment and just had to try it out, although it does absolutely nothing? Cant seem to get it to work, is it bugged?

[meager yacht]

not bugged

hold the ~ key

please read the tutorial quests in the questbook.

[peak furnace]

Oh fuck right

Legend

Are yo just always online Chorb man youre a legend for this mdo

mod

[meager yacht]

i am perpetual

[craggy badge]

Does anyone know what the mod that allows you to reroll on the enchantment table is called? it like costs a couple lapis and a lil xp

[lethal ferry]

easy magic i believe

[craggy badge]

perfect ty!!

[wind fiber]

did they take away cheats?

me and my friends liked tp ing to each other

[lethal ferry]

Who is they? If your talking about a server contact an operator on that specific. There is no official server so we cannot help here. Otherwise please clarify your issue

[wind fiber]

No I mean my own world

I don’t have cheats in my own world

I thought with the new updates they took it away

[peak furnace]

Can you change the names of waystones?

[lethal ferry]

How are you playing with a friend without a server?

[wind fiber]

I’m playing on my own right now

But I do play with my friends

And it’s without a server

[night birch]

yes

[wind fiber]

I own the world

[peak furnace]

How lmao

[night birch]

well, there's not that much on the gui, try clicking the gear

[lethal ferry]

How do you play with them though

[wind fiber]

essentials mod

[lethal ferry]

Essential is incompatible with these modpacks

!lan

[blissful stump]

LAN is untested and unreliable, we suggest you set up a Local Hosted Server with the Server Pack of that Modpack and Version.

[wind fiber]

Wdym?

It works just fine

[night birch]

it doesn't

[wind fiber]

I was using it earlier??

[lethal ferry]

Remove it or people here can't help you 🤷‍♂️

[wind fiber]

Are you saying that’s why I do not have my operator permissions?

[wind fiber]

Okay I’ll remove it

Just give me a min

[lethal ferry]

You can still play with your friends without it and ppl here can help

!server

[wind fiber]

Okay I just removed it

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[wind fiber]

Okay I’ll get a server in a little bit

But can you by any chance help me figure out how to get my operator perms back?

[lethal ferry]

You can give yourself operator through the console of the server

[wind fiber]

How though

[lethal ferry]

Just type: "op username" in console and enter. Remove the quotations and use your in game Minecraft name in place of username

[wind fiber]

It’s not working

[lethal ferry]

That's how you do it, don't think there is any other way

That's all I know of, sorry. Just wait for a more knowledgeable person to get on I guess

[wind fiber]

Alright thank you for your help

[meager yacht]

no

[meager yacht]

please elaborate

[peak furnace]

Do lectern villagers not give efficiency in this modpack?

[meager yacht]

they do

[peak furnace]

Man im super unlucky then

[wind fiber]

i do not have my op permissions

no commands work

[meager yacht]

you have to type the command in your server console

you dont have permissions because you arent opped

in the powershell window type op usernamehere

[wind fiber]

what is my server console?

[meager yacht]

the powershell window that opens with the start file

[wind fiber]

im sorry but i dont know what that means

[meager yacht]

!server

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[meager yacht]

this is how you host a server

[wind fiber]

yeah its not a server

[meager yacht]

yes

i know

you were told to follow the directions and you didnt

[wind fiber]

i did

[meager yacht]

no

you didnt

you just said "its not a server"

!server

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[meager yacht]

you need to do this if you want to play with friends

[wind fiber]

i will

i just want to fix my own personal world

i will buy a server after i fix this

i got rid of essentials

[meager yacht]

to enable cheats on a singleplayer world, press escape, open to lan and "allow cheats"

[wind fiber]

wait its still not working

do i click start to lan world?

[wind fiber]

i tried it again and it worked

tysm

[sage orchid]

hello i recently downloaded the v18.5 and wayy less structures generate compared to other versions is this an issue or were they reduced?

[meager yacht]

not an issue

just reduced

[sage orchid]

what version could i download that still has the massive amount of structures that used to be generated

i just feel that the game is too slow now

[knotty thistle]

Check out my girls build in our survival world

Question: The winter season came and went and our lake froze but now wont un-freeze. Any ideas on how to melt the ice or stop the water from freezing again

[night birch]

not sure if there's a way to stop water from freezing, but you can place a torch

[jovial bane]

My hostinger server completely shits itself when 1 or 2 people join the server
I recieve this message when the server startup or a player joins
Server may be overloaded at 10264ms and 205 ticks behind!

I have 8GB of ram and allocated 7.7GB of ram almost to 8

No logs are shown due to the fact it completely crashes my manager

I've also had an issue where the server also shuts down after a while of playing with 4+ members together

no logs are shown

I believe this is a hosting issue

I need some sort fo clarification on this does anyone have a good idea or solution to my problem

[peak furnace]

What type of villager do you need to get fortune in this mod?

Librarian doesnt seem to drop it

[blissful stump]

Is it safe to run on curseforge app? Because of that hack thing that happened

[night birch]

yes #announcements

[meager yacht]

do not use an old version of the modpack

period

you can just add more structure mods if you want them so badly

[meager yacht]

not a modpack issue

your server host is bad

[jovial bane]

Is bisect really the move !??

[meager yacht]

yep

[woven stratus]

when you have a golden fish and simple lure, do they stack when you have them in your inventory or does only stack once?

[lyric sluice]

guys vein mining is just an enchanting right?

it's not like other modpacks

[jovial bane]

Suggested Ram?

[meager yacht]

how many players

[meager yacht]

yes

[jovial bane]

10

[meager yacht]

10gb

[jovial bane]

Premium or Budget ?

Or that’s my preference ?

[meager yacht]

up to you yea

[clear urchin]

Hey, anyone got any tips on mobs that give good xp i can use for spawners?

[normal vine]

which java version does bmc 1.20 support and is preffered to use?

[river bone]

powershell doesn't open for me to open the server

how can I fix that

[upper trellis]

Getting this error on my mc server using better mc fabric. does anybody know how to fix?

[river bone]

this pops up and instantly closes for reference

[normal vine]

if you are using win 11 try this

[river bone]

I am not but I will try

thank you

[normal vine]

hope it works

np

[stray finch]

Hi guys - i kinda need help: So i got items from for example mc dungeons weapons - and they got like 30 attack damage - yet if i craft hem they do something like 9 dmg. Is there just no point in crafting gear in this modpack, or can i somehow make geart that scales like the one i dropped from dungeon?

[river bone]

It did ty again sir

[normal vine]

glad it worked out for ya ^^

[fallow tide]

Hey all. Just a quick question. I downloaded the modpack yesterday and I have no idea where to find diamonds. Google tells me to mine at Y-64 but i reached bedrock higher than that

[stray finch]

in new version bedrock is at -64

[fallow tide]

then what is the best Y level for diamonds? or am i doing it wrong entirely?

[peak furnace]

Ive found them pretty often at y level -53

In the undead Crypt is there any good loot aside from Iron swords, bones and emeralds?

[fallow tide]

i could use that as a guideline

[peak furnace]

@meager yacht Yo man how do you get fortune and mending inn this mod? Like which villagers will sell it

[meager yacht]

same as vanilla

[meager yacht]

you dont have the same modpack installed as the server

[meager yacht]

!windows11

[blissful stump]

An update to windows introduced a new security feature that prevents powershell files from running on your PC. This is great for your security, but not so great for our server start scripts, which require powershell to run them. Fortunately there is a quick fix for this!

Run powershell as administrator, then run Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned. Read the prompt and press accept. This will allow us to run scripts.

Next, navigate to your server directory using cd path/to/directory (for example: cd C:\Users\Username\Documents\Minecraft\Server)

You can now run the server by double-clicking the start.ps1 file, or typing .\start.ps1 into the command line while in the directory.

IF THE ABOVE DOES NOT WORK, TRY THIS
Run the command Unblock-File -Path .\start.ps1 in the same powershell window. This will allow the start script to not be blocked by windows, and run freely.

If all else fails, a manual installation should work:
FORGE 1.16.5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIjisWyxU-8
FORGE 1.18.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R610M102X0U
FORGE 1.19.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HD0ibIpO-A
FABRIC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2W1Xb7nLKo
Make sure to Install the Server in our ServerPacks so it can use the correct files.

[peak furnace]

Librarian isnt showing it at all but

[meager yacht]

thats not a mod in the modpack

[peak furnace]

Re rolled for about 25 minutes

[meager yacht]

same as vanilla

[fallow tide]

for vanilla it's -64, but here -64 is where bedrock is

[blissful stump]

Hey i saw there are guard villagers when i was exploring can you make them with a type of workbench or something? I cleared out one of those huge walled forts and am turning it into my own little village and think the guards would be a nice touch. With that how do you "breed" villagers again?

oh yeah im in 1.19.2

[lethal ferry]

Breeding is the same as vanilla. And to make guards give a jobless villager a crossbow or sword. Then you can open their inventory and give them armor, shields, etc

[blissful stump]

Ty very much

[meager yacht]

thats not the case

generation in the modpack is the exact same as vanilla

nothing is changed

there are mods that add new biomes but world depth is the same

[fallow tide]

all this for 4 diamonds lol, i'd swear it used to be easier

[tiny dew]

Its y-53 or someting near there

-64 is bedrock in vanilla too 😭

[fallow tide]

i'm on exactly -53

now it's evolved to this

[tiny dew]

But why you are strip mining post 1.18 is something i dare not ask

[fallow tide]

i've got 14 diams i think

[fallow tide]

i'm used to the old ways

and i get lost in caves

[tiny dew]

Look for an aquifer

[fallow tide]

a what

[tiny dew]

Water cave

More diamonds generate because they are not exposed to air and are visible

[lethal ferry]

Diamond generation was changed with the caves and cliffs update. Diamond is much more likely to generate and in bigger vein when covered by other blocks and water counts as a block

[fallow tide]

that's interesting

i have no idea how to find a water cave but i guess i'll just explore

[tiny dew]

Also when you find an ore mine around it too because they frequently generate diagonal to the ore since 1.18

[fallow tide]

oh no

[hard ginkgo]

hey, is there any block thats creates mist? something that will suit graveyard

[lone prawn]

are the orbs supposed to glow in 1.19.2 with shaders? they glow for my friend but not for me

[echo kindle]

Or just vein mine it

[spare otter]

how do i summon the obby boss

[tiny dew]

the one in the end?

eye of ender

[median pumice]

anyone know if i can bring the nightmare horse back to the overworld it doesnt teleport with me when i take it through the portal

[blissful stump]

Is there doctorat dart frog mod in this pack?

[blissful stump]

That's a sick screenshot

[limpid anchor]

Anyone else get the bug that when you're in your questline and you enter your inventory there's no way of going out other then alt+f4?

[lethal ferry]

It's a weird soft lock, I've gotten it before, somehow I got out of it, don't remember now though

[limpid anchor]

Such a shame, if u ever come up w the solution lmk

[median pumice]

Lol thanks

[flat tide]

when adding more mods to the mod pack will downloading server pack be fine?

i want to add this

or is there a easyer way?

[sudden bay]

there is no easier way

[sudden bay]

that will not be affected.

you do have to add create fabric to the serverpack after installing though

[flat tide]

oke:D

plis help

[patent egret]

when downloading the modpack it gets stuck on validating manifest files anyone know the fix?

[boreal hollow]

Gamers, I am not sure if this is the right place to ask. I am sorry of its not...
Is anyone able to guide me or tell me how to increase the Backpacked mod, amount of slots? or is it default?

[daring spoke]

Anyone has any guide like to do list

there is a lot of content

[sudden bay]

questbook

[daring spoke]

Wow

[sudden bay]

no fr thats all there is

[lethal ferry]

You can craft tier upgrades

[boreal hollow]

Everybody says that, But I have not seen any upgrade, any guide, nor even text about this. Would you please guide me? 😦

[lethal ferry]

use rei

[boreal hollow]

I did, I do @backpacked and theres nothing

[lethal ferry]

u need a frayed backpack first, then you can upgrade to iron, then gold, etc

[lethal ferry]

its under a diff name, just type backpack

[boreal hollow]

Nor Frayed gives me any result

@lethal ferry any last suggestion? 😦🙏

[sudden bay]

[boreal hollow]

sadface

[sudden bay]

The thing is

Backpacked isnt on Fabric

neither is jei

[boreal hollow]

Huh, let me confirm I might of missed the thread

[night birch]

Yup, they are playing forge

#better-mc-forge

[boreal hollow]

Yup, you are right

[sudden bay]

[boreal hollow]

My apologies

[sudden bay]

dont worry abt it

[night birch]

All good

[boreal hollow]

Ty

[wind fiber]

what does a soul star do??

[sudden bay]

Its like an eye of ender that leads you to bosses

[sterile thorn]

guys is it possible to use shaders in BMC2

[sudden bay]

Yes. Shaders should be built in

[sterile thorn]

I see

gracias

[sudden bay]

Iris yes

You should see a shaderpack option in your menu

video settings

[small stone]

Tom's Simple Storage Mod is not working

https://imgur.com/a/qVYNn2o

[night birch]

need to force load the chunk/chunks that it is in so it can work in any range/dimension I believe

[small stone]

I don't think it is that, because My simulation distance is in 64 chunks and it doesn't work 300 blocks away ( I set non-beaconed distance to 256 instead of just 64 )

[jovial bane]

[25.06 20:25:59] [Server] [Server thread/WARN]: Viggne moved too quickly! -4.628489762556285,0.756759288177264,-8.864807969994217
[25.06 20:25:59] [Server] [Server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 3254ms or 65 ticks behind
[25.06 20:26:07] [Server] [Server thread/WARN]: Viggne moved too quickly! -8.26504568259736,0.04353562014750878,-5.749312143276256
[25.06 20:26:17] [Server] [Server thread/WARN]: Viggne moved too quickly! -8.17431301457674,-5.694561548248785,-2.942047808274083
[25.06 20:26:20] [Server] [Server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 6718ms or 134 ticks behind

is this a major concern i have a 10G server with bisect

[echo kindle]

just place a level 4 beacon

[night birch]

just try force-loading the chunk and then see if the problem persists

[small stone]

I have

I have speed 2, which can only come from a level 4 beacon

[echo kindle]

the only thing that doesnt work if the chunk isnt loaded is when u close it the items wont be updated until the chunk is loaded again

like if u put an item in it while the chunk isnt loaded

[small stone]

How do i do that

[echo kindle]

it wont shut up in there until the chunk is loaded

show up*

[night birch]

open up the map, right-click the chunk and force-load it

[echo kindle]

at least thats whats happened to me

[small stone]

???

[night birch]

xaero's map, open up the full map

[small stone]

This del

[small stone]

The option doesn't exist

[night birch]

yes it does lol, I've played many modpacks with xaero's, check your keybinds

[small stone]

You're just making this up

[jovial bane]

is this a concern or not

[small stone]

I don't believe it to be

[night birch]

Sick, I'll show you a screenshot then, since for whatever reason you won't believe or research it

[small stone]

does any of this say "force load the chunk"

[night birch]

claim selected

then I believe you can force-load it after

[small stone]

You should have said that before, but thanks

Well thanks, it's working now

[uneven night]

i aint ever trusting a sculk snapper again bruh

[sterile thorn]

So I'm guessing that the quest book is not ported to 1.20 BMC yet?

[vernal quarry]

how do i turn off gui blur?

[clever forum]

keeps crashing on good pcs, anyone had the same issues?

[night birch]

!moreinfo

[blissful stump]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[clever forum]

I guess maybe deleting the custom entity models and colormatic should be deleted?

it works for the others tho

[daring spoke]

what is your system just curious

[sick forge]

is it possible to get fortune 5 or looting 5 in the modpack?

[sudden bay]

yep

[sick forge]

where do you get it?

[sudden bay]

I know Goblin Traders can trade items 2 levels above their Vanilla levels.

[sick forge]

oh okay, this must be pretty rare right

[sudden bay]

When I played on Forge, No.

If you do come across a Goblin Trader. They usually have those trades.

Atleast for 1 up Vanilla levels Goblin Traders always have those.

[sick forge]

ive only seen like fortune 4 and efficency 6

[sudden bay]

They trade 5 dragon heads for that up 2

iirc

[sick forge]

oh okay

[sudden bay]

It might be a forge only thing

Not sure

It should be the same though

90% sure

[sick forge]

yeah i dont see why it would be different it is the same mod

[flat tide]

when i add create mod it crashes can some one help

[grim sparrow]

Playing better MC 1,is there a good way for farming xp?

[daring spoke]

what is the major diffrences between forge and fabric version

[timber olive]

is forge or fabric better

[clever forum]

rtx 3070 intel i7 107000 16gb ram

[daring spoke]

idk im playing fabric

[daring spoke]

nice system but idk

[clever forum]

yyeah its really weird

also

[daring spoke]

about problem

[timber olive]

i’ve been playing forge but idk what’s the difference

[clever forum]

in some points, i have like 500fps but it feels like 50

(165hz monitor)

[night birch]

I wouldn't delete mods, usually breaks modpacks

[pure basin]

I've been having some problems with the Tom's Simple Storage mod. Is this a place I can ask some questions, or is there a better area to do so?

[night birch]

yes, you ask in the channel of the modpack you are playing

[sick forge]

what armor is better than warden armor?

[echo kindle]

dragon armor

dragon scale

[pure basin]

Recently, I built a hefty storage area that I've attached with cables and connectors and it works great when I'm within a relatively close distance to the terminal. However, after I made my maxed out beacon right next to the terminal, the inventory vanishes from the remote after I move too far away. The terminal will still open, but if I'm not nearby it, nothing in the inventory will show up.
I've forceloaded the area where the beacon/terminal is and the terminal recognizes that it should be available throughout the overworld, but it still won't show the inventory. Any tips? I've connected the terminal to the beacon with a connector too if that helps.

[blissful stump]

hey i just wanted to follow up on this because the server is still very laggy

im not sure why either

[sudden bay]

!tps

[blissful stump]

Please click this link and follow the guide. If you are using a server host such as Bisect, you may be limited in your options and instead have a checkbox to use Aikar's Flags, which will also work:
https://github.com/brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks
If you can not launch your server/game after using these flags, then remove the word java from the start. Also, make sure you are using Java 18 on 1.18.2 / 1.19.2 and Java 11 on 1.16.5. These should be downloaded from Adoptium's website.

If lag persists, do the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[lethal ferry]

Spirit mod spawners

[jovial bane]

is there a good performance mod

for bmc

[night birch]

all of our modpacks are fully optimized

[sudden bay]

The modpacks already have performance mods included. For better performance follow #faq performance guide.

[autumn arch]

Im still confused where i add the line, do I just add it anywhere, or is it under where the possible commands are

[sudden bay]

Line?

[lethal ferry]

hes prob talking about modernfix. if so the performance guide tells you exactly what file you add it in

[autumn arch]

yeah i was talking about modern fix

but that doesnt change that im still confused whether i put the line anywhere, or under the possible commands

[sudden bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaVImhkveU8&ab_channel=Pofuduq

[autumn arch]

im also talking about the modernfix commands you set to true

[sudden bay]

Open the modernfix-mixins.properties

from your config folder

then edit

on a new line

add

mixin.perf.dynamic_resources=true

[autumn arch]

ok thank you

[sudden bay]

and if u want u can

add 1 more line

put

mixin.perf.deduplicate_location=true

save it

[autumn arch]

and which java file do we download here? .msi or .zip?

i dont think i saw it mention which one on the performance guide

oh wait nvm im just blind

i also notice it says the temurin java version wont work with the curseforge launcher, but if i want to make my own modpack for me to play using curseforge launcher, how would i be able to do so?

would i just have to uninstall the temurin version and reinstall the official java version

[echo kindle]

Richhhhhhhhh

[sudden bay]

Do not ping staff.

2. Aternos is not supported self hosting is free and easy to do

!server

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[spark sail]

@brittle egret

Please refrain from Excessive use of blacklisted words!

You now have 5 points, the next trigger [10] will get you timed out.

kaput_ has been timed out for 5m
Reason: Excessive use of blacklisted words

kaput_#0 | 1078216182643040347

[sudden bay]

hm

[jovial bane]

I'm having a ongoing quest called "buzzier_bees:honey_bread" and its a missing block within the game!

how do I fix this for my server!

[worthy coyote]

That kind of error is usually when server and client don't have the same version btw

[calm nacelle]

mod list?

[jovial bane]

?

is that a question or ?

[calm nacelle]

oui

Where is the modlist located

[jovial bane]

are you trying to help me or asking a question im confused

[meager yacht]

remove Create

[meager yacht]

check the mod page

[meager yacht]

#faq

[meager yacht]

!alternates

[blissful stump]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL.

To install ATLauncher, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATLauncher does not see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "New Instance". Click "Ok" on the opted out mods warning, then click "Open All" on the manual download screen.
7. Let the mods download, ATLauncher will grab them from your Downloads folder and automatically add them to the modpack.
8. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATLauncher, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATLauncher and paste the Saves folder there.
Because ATLauncher downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATLauncher also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATLauncher installed.

[meager yacht]

you need to frceload the chunk

[meager yacht]

!tps

[blissful stump]

Please click this link and follow the guide. If you are using a server host such as Bisect, you may be limited in your options and instead have a checkbox to use Aikar's Flags, which will also work:
https://github.com/brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks
If you can not launch your server/game after using these flags, then remove the word java from the start. Also, make sure you are using Java 18 on 1.18.2 / 1.19.2 and Java 11 on 1.16.5. These should be downloaded from Adoptium's website.

If lag persists, do the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[meager yacht]

the mod doesnt exist for 1.20

[meager yacht]

remove the blur mod

[meager yacht]

!moreinfo please answer all questions

[blissful stump]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[meager yacht]

there are 8 questions, they are there for a reason

[meager yacht]

then dont add create

[meager yacht]

#faq

[meager yacht]

#faq

[meager yacht]

just use atlauncher

[meager yacht]

check the modpackindex website

you dont have the same modpack installed as the server

no

use the latest

read #faq for modpack installation

send a screenshot of the server console

[echo kindle]

aternos

[meager yacht]

we offer no support for aternos whatsoever

!server

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[echo kindle]

looks like it

[meager yacht]

you didnt install the server correctly

[echo kindle]

my bad

[meager yacht]

your server has no mods installed

[celest harness]

Hey, do the goblin traders despawn outside a certain range, or do they persist?

[meager yacht]

you need to put them in a cage

or a boat

or they will despawn

[flat tide]

so the was a problem with the newest create mod version breaking other mods reverting fixed it all

[echo kindle]

insane

soul cages are actually insane

[warm hollow]

is the exp output good?

[echo kindle]

xp isnt what i care about

i get like 1 skull per minute

sometimes mroe

[warm hollow]

huh

yeah rn im running with 2 ultimate zombie spawners n the xp output seems severely nerfed since the last time i played this pack

[jovial bane]

I'm having a ongoing quest called "buzzier_bees:honey_bread" and its a missing block within the game!
how do I fix this for my server!

[meager yacht]

please just describe your issue

instead of pinging someone randomly and asking them for help

thats not how you install a modpack

you dont create a folder anywhere

please read #faq for modpack installation

[quick crest]

Just wondering anyone have tips to reduce loading times on BMC fabric 1. It’s not awful, but way slower than 1.16.5 bmc was

[wicked mountain]

Mod name INMIS, search for "backpack" or @inmis

[lethal ferry]

They are playing the forge version that's why nothing was showing up

[meager yacht]

#faq performance guide

[echo kindle]

update java

[meager yacht]

please

read the readme

it is named "readme" for a reason

[sand tinsel]

you have to install the right java jdk

Also Im having trouble connecting to my friends server, we have installed it right and enabled port forwarding on his firewall but I still can't connect.

[meager yacht]

send the error

[sand tinsel]

its an connection time out

[meager yacht]

https://www.canyouseeme.org

[sand tinsel]

it says its not open

but we don't know why

[meager yacht]

so you didnt portforward correctly

[sand tinsel]

Im ask him to recheck

[sand tinsel]

thank you, hes an idiot

he forgot to add it so it didn't save

wasted 2 hours

[meager yacht]

update the geophilic mod

[autumn arch]

How do you allow another player to do things inside your chunk claim

[meager yacht]

its okay

[tame oriole]

Whenever I load into BMC 1 this is what the world and blocks look like, does anyone know why?

[meager yacht]

how did you install the modpack

[tame oriole]

curseforge

[meager yacht]

shaders?

[tame oriole]

no

[meager yacht]

!alternates

[blissful stump]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL.

To install ATLauncher, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATLauncher does not see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "New Instance". Click "Ok" on the opted out mods warning, then click "Open All" on the manual download screen.
7. Let the mods download, ATLauncher will grab them from your Downloads folder and automatically add them to the modpack.
8. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATLauncher, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATLauncher and paste the Saves folder there.
Because ATLauncher downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATLauncher also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATLauncher installed.

[rustic shard]

i need help my grave is in someones claim and i cant get it back

please help

[night birch]

hmm, you'll probably have to ask that person to invite you to their team

[rustic shard]

they are not online i havent seen them online in like 5 days who knows when they plan to get on

[night birch]

then you'll need to talk to a server owner or an admin that has OP on the server about getting your stuff back

[rustic shard]

is there anyone on atm that can help

[night birch]

Well, seeing as I'm not in whatever server you are playing in, nor are we in charge of that server, I can't answer that lol

You will have to consult whoever is on the server or if that server has a discord then ask there

[oak fossil]

how much is missing between 1.19 and 1.20 bettermc?

[night birch]

Not sure exactly, my guess is still a lot

[autumn arch]

I invited one lf my friends to my team and they werent able to do anything in my chunk claim

[night birch]

how did you invite them?

[autumn arch]

Through the ftb teams menu

[night birch]

better mc fabric has open parties and claims for chunks, ftb teams will have no effect

so

you do this

/openpac-parties

a command

#better-mc-fabric message
for more commands related to that mod as you might need them later ^

[autumn arch]

Oh, thank you

[median rampart]

is there a way to suggest/request mods added to modpacks?

[blissful stump]

are these things supposed to be hostile or what

[sudden bay]

#suggestions

[wet acorn]

how do i fix this?

[sudden bay]

1. by not using Essential

Essential is not supported. Self-hosting is free.

[meager yacht]

!server for server hosting

[blissful stump]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[half willow]

I allocated 10gb

how much is recommended?

PC =
16gb ram
gtx 1650 4gb
i7

idk what i7 is

[meager yacht]

please follow the full #faq performance guide

[half willow]

ok

[clever forum]

1. no
2. curseforge
3. 1.19.2
4. v18.5
5. happens randomly
6. no
7. done before
8. yes

[meager yacht]

please read #4 slowly

and answer it

[clever forum]

yeah sry wasnt on pc, gimme a sec ill check now

[clever forum]

v18.5

[meager yacht]

theres no issues in this log

your game didnt even close

[clever forum]

wtf?

idk then, it just crashes

maybe pc sided issue

[meager yacht]

is there a file named hs_err_pid

[honest path]

hi, i have a problem, my minecraft world crashes when im exploring the end, how can i fix it?

[meager yacht]

!moreinfo

[blissful stump]

Hello! For us to properly help you with your issue, you will need to answer all 8 questions below. Post the answers in this channel:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Send the crash report file into this channel. Right click the modpack, Open Folder, and navigate to the Crash Reports folder. Drag the newest one here. If there is no crash reports folder, do the same thing with the latest.log file in the logs folder.
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[honest path]

1. I added some weapons, armors and client mods
2. Curseforge
3. 1.19.2
4. V18.5
5. Flying across the end
6. No
8. Yes

[meager yacht]

you need to answer #7

and list the mods you added

[honest path]

i need to send the .rar right?

[meager yacht]

no

[honest path]

this?

[meager yacht]

you are playing on a very old or a heavily modified version of the modpack

remove the uwrad mod

or read the text in the crash report and do the config change it says to do

[honest path]

ok thanks

ill try

[honest path]

what is this mod

i cant find it

[meager yacht]

a mod you added

[honest path]

i dont have any mod with that name

[sudden bay]

Unsafe World Random Access Detector

[honest path]

aaa ok

thanks

[strange pilot]

where can i see the dimension of betterMC 1?

[lethal ferry]

Quest book

[echo kindle]

soul cages are balanced

[still veldt]

does anyone know how to fix gl errors, other than updating your graphics driver?

mines fully updated but im still getting a lot of gl errors in my logs

[small stone]

thx

[proper sun]

I'm currently running a 1.19.2 better MC fabric server. I would like to try to update it to a 1.20 one however. I'm worried about the mods that are missing and what impact that will have on terrain that is already generated on the 1.19.2 server.

anyone have any experience with this?

[celest shard]

im stuckon loading terrarin

[wind fiber]

okay thank you

[jovial bane]

My Minecraft users are having an issue with the nether when we get to a bunch of mobs fps just drops is there way to optimize there game so it that won’t happen.

I already have the pre world generator for fabric, now I need to figure a way to optimize either the user and server to have a almost flawless experience.

[shell spade]

hey the enchant vein mining doesnt work to i have to do something special to activate it ?

[proper sun]

That's exactly what i was thinking. Do we know if that's part of the roadmap for Better MC do they intend for us to be able to update from version to version?

Cool thanks for your time!

[celest shard]

im stuckon loading terrarin

[blissful stump]

Anyone had success adding MCDiscordChat? Server keeps shutting off when adding to mods folder

[lethal ferry]

#faq performance guide

[lethal ferry]

there is a keybind for it

[celest shard]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP

im stuckon loading terrarin

[rapid wing]

how many people online

[limpid anchor]

on what tool do I put my sunfire enchant on?

[sour relic]

can anyone help me with the glitch

it like glitches items and makes them stretch im on a single player minecraft world 1.19.2 fabric

[wet acorn]

oh i’ve been having that bug too

[sour relic]

rlly? do u know how to fix it

[wet acorn]

no nobody has helped me 😭

any helpers on?

[limpid anchor]

?

[echo kindle]

netherite farm

[jovial bane]

I've done the following

and i still have a hardtime rendering next to big areas full of mobs

[rich kraken]

Can I convert a fabric world into a forge world

[limpid anchor]

?

[echo kindle]

wrong channel i think

[limpid anchor]

OH THIS ISN'T PROMINENCE

MY BAD

[sage imp]

does the ui error in the top right when you first launch the modpack on 1.19.2 matter at all?

[late mica]

I just got full soul crystal with wither skeleton's. Gonna do it as well

[late mica]

What is this mob?

[echo kindle]

make sure the room is 11 in all places

ender warthog

[late mica]

I already have a place built

[echo kindle]

oh ok

ender warthogs drop an item that can make netherite scraps

[late mica]

Broken

Gonna do that as well

Thanks for sharing

[echo kindle]

yep

[fleet spear]

how close are we to 1.19 -> 1.20 world safe?

[sour relic]

anyone know how to fix this

[night birch]

I see nothing out of the ordinary

[blissful stump]

Does any1 know how to craft a new quest book?

[night birch]

Open you inventory, look top left

[blissful stump]

Ok

[sour relic]

surely it isnt normal for it to glitchj like that

[blissful stump]

What do I do next?

[wet acorn]

that seems sooo annoying fr

can anyone help her

@sudden bay please ):

[sudden bay]

why me?

._.

[wet acorn]

oops wrong person

[sour relic]

do u know how to fix that becauyse my whole inventory glitches

@jagged spindle @thick seal do u know how to fix that

[sudden bay]

Stop pinging staff.

[night birch]

Click on the book lol

[night birch]

How did you install the modpack?

[sour relic]

on curseforge 1.19.2 fabric

the app

[night birch]

!alternates

[blissful stump]

If this command was run in response to your question/issue, it is likely because switching away from the launcher you are currently using would fix your problem.
From our experience, the most stable launcher by far is ATLauncher, also known as ATL.

To install ATLauncher, do the following:
1. Go to https://atlauncher.com/download
2. Install and run the setup, then open the program.
3. Login to your Microsoft account that owns the Java Edition of Minecraft from the Accounts tab on the right. This process is 100% safe, as it goes directly through Microsoft. ATLauncher does not see your account credentials.
4. Go to the Packs tab on the right, then click "Curseforge" on the left.
5. Search the modpack you wish to download.
6. Click "New Instance". Click "Ok" on the opted out mods warning, then click "Open All" on the manual download screen.
7. Let the mods download, ATLauncher will grab them from your Downloads folder and automatically add them to the modpack.
8. Go to the Instances tab, and click "Play" on the modpack you downloaded. If you ever see an "Update" button on the instance, click it.

To transfer your Curseforge world to ATLauncher, simply right click the modpack on Curseforge, or click the 3 dots, then click "Open Folder". Copy the Saves folder, then click "Open Folder" on ATLauncher and paste the Saves folder there.
Because ATLauncher downloads the exact same files as Curseforge does, your world will be the exact same and you will be able to join the same servers. ATLauncher also works without an internet connection (after you've installed the modpack, of course), and does not have any bloat from Overwolf. You are free to uninstall both Overwolf and Curseforge with ATLauncher installed.

[blissful stump]

i lost my original book and i need a new one

[night birch]

There should be a book, top left after opening the inventory

You don't need the item lol

[sour relic]

do u think this would work

[stiff pelican]

Search for the quest Book in JEI, hover over it without your mouse and press "A".
Should Pop up in the upper left corner

[night birch]

That's why I did the command for it lol, it should work

[blissful stump]

Thanks lol

[sour relic]

alr ill try it thanks

[sour relic]

just said the atllauncher cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified im on mac

nvm

[sour relic]

do i install better minecraft fabric 1.19.2 or do i do smth else and what do u mean by the manually part

[night birch]

the command I sent has exactly how to install it, it's pretty easy

[sour relic]

yea ik but on the 6th step i click new instance and it says for me to install it do i do that and after that how do i do the manually part

[night birch]

literally just press the "okay" button when it tells you to, and then click "open all" on the manual download screen when it finishes installing the rest, you will see it, just please follow the steps, the command has the instructions

[blissful stump]

Please click this link and follow the guide. If you are using a server host such as Bisect, you may be limited in your options and instead have a checkbox to use Aikar's Flags, which will also work:
https://github.com/brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks
If you can not launch your server/game after using these flags, then remove the word java from the start. Also, make sure you are using Java 18 on 1.18.2 / 1.19.2 and Java 11 on 1.16.5. These should be downloaded from Adoptium's website.

If lag persists, do the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[sour relic]

ive done the manually part do i exit of the browser download mods or willl it not continue installing

[night birch]

if the mods have installed in the browser tabs then you can exit

[sour relic]

ive got the downloads they automatically installed but ik it says itll automatically go to downloads for it can i just clear them of my google thing at the bottom or no

[sour relic]

just closed it and it said it wasnt installe

[night birch]

you should've checked every browser to make sure that the mods were installed...

[sour relic]

i did? 4 mods itds askin me to install n 4 mods were u said it was automatically transferredn and told me to close it so i did

[sour relic]

ive deffo got them installed but it wont move from the downloads from browser part

[opaque oracle]

hey friends how do i turn off this feature that shows items in my inv at all times?

[autumn arch]

Go to the inventory hud+ options and turn off Inventory Hud

Alternatively you could move it

Just go to the 4th set of options which allows you to move where the inventory hud, armor hud, and potion hud display

[opaque oracle]

where is inventory hud+ options?

[autumn arch]

Press esc, then click Mods

Then search up inventory hud

You should see it

[opaque oracle]

ahh tyty!

[autumn arch]

Np

[sudden bay]

press i

[sour relic]

ive just completed it but its still got that glitch

[blissful stump]

Please click this link and follow the guide. If you are using a server host such as Bisect, you may be limited in your options and instead have a checkbox to use Aikar's Flags, which will also work:
https://github.com/brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks
If you can not launch your server/game after using these flags, then remove the word java from the start. Also, make sure you are using Java 18 on 1.18.2 / 1.19.2 and Java 11 on 1.16.5. These should be downloaded from Adoptium's website.

If lag persists, do the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[sudden bay]

Luna Ghost Studios

[echo kindle]

Rate my trophy tower so far im getting every armor set rn

[elder spear]

@meager yacht yo ur probthe only one that knows

do u know how i fix the sword of feyr from vansihing when i log or die?

i got keep inv on but it works diff since it aint in my inv when deployed

[night birch]

don't ping staff, and this is the wrong channel

[elder spear]

oops mb

#medieval-mc-fabric

[wicked mountain]

The files that were downloaded by the browser should be moved by the launcher. You can just ignore the downloads panel in chrome, since when the files get moved and chrome doesn't know where they are, chrome can't do anything with them.

If the launcher still hangs out on the "download manually" screen that means you must have missed one or two, would recommend checking carefully to make sure you clicked "open all in browser" and not just one or two of them.

Alternatively, they may have been interrupted during the download process, or sometimes chrome fails to properly rename files, or perhaps because chrome does rename files when they are complete it didn't trigger the launcher to move them; try re-downloading the ones it's saying it doesn't have, or moving them out then returning them the specific downloads folder ATLauncher says it's checking.

[clever forum]

sry, yeah it said im out of ram, i assigned more to it but i figured my browser is eating up almost half

[meager yacht]

ignore the errors

[meager yacht]

#faq performance guide

[meager yacht]

hold the ~ key

[meager yacht]

then use a different link mod

[meager yacht]

online what

[meager yacht]

this looks completely normal?

[meager yacht]

whats the bug

[meager yacht]

exactly what steps did you do

[meager yacht]

ignore it

[meager yacht]

not very

[jovial bane]

game is running fllawlessly

i did the steps

[meager yacht]

update your gpu drivers and follo wthe performance guide

[jovial bane]

working great for my users and myslef

myself

[meager yacht]

be patient

[meager yacht]

dont ping ppl

[meager yacht]

you didnt install the modpack correctly, read #faq for modpack installation

[meager yacht]

so whats the issue

[wicked mountain]

Is this what you're talking about?

https://github.com/MrCrayfish/GoblinTraders/issues/73

[echo kindle]

i just tamed a sculk snapper and now its crashing my game and server every time i join

[meager yacht]

/kill @e[type=deeperdarker:sculk_snapper]

[echo kindle]

thanks

but my server host has a thing that kills the mob causing the issue

so i dont need to do that

(i just found out)

[midnight sage]

Is this a support channel?

I went into some snow when I had this "Cold parchute" equipped and now I am perma frozen

[wicked mountain]

well, that makes sense. They will accept enchanted tools, at least, although they will give a new tool with the new enchantment (ie you can't transfer old enchantments, so use a grindstone first). They also do not accept tools with any kind of damage (ie with a durability counter)

I generally use the crystalline flower to get my enchantments just before I do the trade with the goblin, so I don't have to worry about having extras

[midnight sage]

Can anyone help?

No idea what could be causing this I drinked milk water put myself in lava

[wicked mountain]

put a torch on the floor and stand on it

it's from the frostiful mod. if your temperature gets too low you'll freeze to death. Supposedly enchantments like "enervation", or standing on "sun lichen" will give you heat enough to survive, but I haven't been able to test it myself. Standing in a hole with a torch at my feet, while wearing wolf fur armor (not bear fur) did work.

[meager yacht]

that feature is disabled

it only occurs in powdered snow

[wicked mountain]

I do know that both times i froze to death it was after being in powder snow, and the other features are things I read about, but I can confirm that campfires and lava do nothing to warm you up. I also know that I didn't die when i wore wolf fur armor.

[midnight sage]

Thank you 🙏, I'll try it later