better-mc-forge

[pale olive]

But I don't?

[viral garden]

yes you do

have you gone to the end and killed the dragon?

no

you're in a cave

[pale olive]

I'm looking at the items

There are no dragon eggs other than the fire dragon one

[native radish]

And the ender dragon

[pale olive]

Searched it up and it's not there

[hidden lagoon]

search in creative mode dragon egg and all the different dragon eggs should appear

[native radish]

It doesn't show up, but it still spawns and you can turn it into an dragon

[pale olive]

Ah wait really?

[native radish]

Yes, kill that dragon, get the egg, place it somewhere, right click and it will hatch after like 20 minutes

[pale olive]

Is there any way of obtaining the other dragons without creative?

[native radish]

The eggs spawn in little shrines in a few biomes I think

[pale olive]

I mean yeah, but if I look in here none show up

[hidden lagoon]

different blocks will transfer the egg into the corresponding variant, for example ice blocks change the dragon egg to an ice dragon egg

[pale olive]

Ooh wait really?

That's cool

[viral garden]

the time you've spent asking why JEI doesn't show the dragon egg you could've killed the ender dragon already ^_^

[pale olive]

My guy, I don't know why you're choosing to be rude over this. The others helped me understand plenty more than you did

[pale olive]

Could've explained it rather than just saying that I do and leaving it at that

[native radish]

Also, does anyone know what you can do with the dragon post taming? I can't get it to sit and such

[hidden lagoon]

Use a bone to make it sit and feed it fish to make it grow

[weak gale]

Does sm1 know how to get the ring of ghosts?

[glad oasis]

Uhh, so I got this error message from GDLauncher trying to launch the latest version of the pack..
https://mclo.gs/iloilJP

[modest gorge]

my friend and i are trying to run BMC3 but its not really qorking, anyone have a fix?

[weak gale]

Does sm1 know how to get the ring of ghosts?

please

[obsidian adder]

why can't i consume somnium

it wont show up

[viral garden]

You've given literally no information whatsoever

[viral garden]

craft it

[viral garden]

You added a mod

or you updated a mod

[weak gale]

I would if there was a recipt

when I click on the RIng nothing shows up where I can find it or how I can craft it

[modest gorge]

okay, chorb. whenever my friend and I try to load any world whatsoever it crashes before we get into the game. wwe both have the same issue so it couldnt be our computers.

[viral garden]

what mod is it from

[viral garden]

!moreinfo

[grand gate]

Hello! To better diagnose your issue, please answer ALL of the following questions:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? (Adding/removing mods, changing configs, anything in the Resourcepacks menu)
2. What launcher are you using? (CurseForge, GDLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. When does the crash happen?
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the file here. If not, is there an exit code? (On CurseForge, right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq!
9. To reiterate #1. did you install install the Modpack through a launcher or did you download the Server Pack or use the Server Files as the Modpack?
10. To reiterate #2. did you use a cracked launcher like TLauncher?

Please attach your latest.log file to your message as well. This can be found in the logs folder.

[weak gale]

abyss

[viral garden]

then go to the abyss

[weak gale]

bro are u serious lmao

[viral garden]

Yes

[weak gale]

I have everything u can have from the Abyss

but I still need a recipe or anything to know how to get it

I cant even find anything on Youtube or the Abyss Wiki

[viral garden]

i found several things lol

i'm pretty sure we just disabled the recipe

i wasn't a dev then so im not too sure

[modest gorge]

1. no i have not 2. curseforge 3. 1.19.2 4. v12 5. when we try to load into a game sometimes sooner 6. no 7. yes one does 8. no i didnt read it BMC1 worked flawlessly so i didnt think id have to. 9. no i installed through curseforge 10. no i didnt

[viral garden]

i can not help without a crash report

please read #7 again, slowly this time

[weak gale]

In the past u could craft it in the Werkbench but know they changed it and I cant find anything

[modest gorge]

there is no crash reports folder

[viral garden]

you just said a crash report generates

"yes one does"

so i guess it doesn't

send the latest.log then

[modest gorge]

latest log as in my exit code?

[viral garden]

no

[viral garden]

please read this again

at the end, the bold text

[modest gorge]

lol you want a copy paste of every thing?

[viral garden]

no

it specifically says to attach the file

[viral garden]

#faq performance guide

[modest gorge]

and what woulod you have me do over there, open a ticket?

[viral garden]

what

its a performance guide, you read it

[weak gale]

Can u help me with the Ring of Ghosts?

I even tried the Old Workbench Recipe but it doenst work

[viral garden]

the recipe is disabled

i told you already

[weak gale]

And how do u get it

[viral garden]

you cant

the recipe is disabled

[weak gale]

okay 😦

[rocky hound]

Does better Minecraft plus have all the things that better Minecraft has ?

Just more armors and structures ?

[west hamlet]

Yeah, it does. At least, description says so.

Does anyone know, how to fix the issue where mods are in datapacks menu? I googled it and found out that it probably caused by a brocken mod, but I didn't even modofy anything myself.

[viral garden]

#faq

[viral garden]

not an issue

ignore it

[west hamlet]

But when I try to reenter the world, game says that it can't load datapacks.

[viral garden]

!moreinfo

[grand gate]

Hello! To better diagnose your issue, please answer ALL of the following questions:

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? (Adding/removing mods, changing configs, anything in the Resourcepacks menu)
2. What launcher are you using? (CurseForge, GDLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. When does the crash happen?
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the file here. If not, is there an exit code? (On CurseForge, right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq!
9. To reiterate #1. did you install install the Modpack through a launcher or did you download the Server Pack or use the Server Files as the Modpack?
10. To reiterate #2. did you use a cracked launcher like TLauncher?

Please attach your latest.log file to your message as well. This can be found in the logs folder.

[viral garden]

https://xyproblem.info

[rocky hound]

Is there a wiki for the armors and items

[viral garden]

no

use jei

[jovial flume]

does vein mining works on this modpack?

this one option

[viral garden]

yes

otherwise why would it exist

[jovial flume]

so its only for ores or it should work with all blocks?

[viral garden]

all blocks

[jovial flume]

so its not working for me

[viral garden]

read quests

please

[obsidian adder]

is there anyway to make the ring of flight last forever

or get infinite flight

1.16.5

[rocky hound]

Should I pre generate the world before playing with my friends ? Or will it break anything ?

[viral garden]

!pregen

[grand gate]

https://youtu.be/UkkIpZSUnr4

[gritty tusk]

My ultimine seem to be broken somehow - i normally get the option to scroll between what kind of shape i wanna break the blocks, but currently it just shows "ultimine active" and no options. Anyone experienced this and know how to fix?

[viral garden]

#828720399101591613

[gritty tusk]

oh

[obsidian adder]

can you get infinite flight in this modpack

1.16.5

[fierce jewel]

can someone help me

i have a shockbyte server on this pack

and its on the right version\

when i go to join the server it gives me a weirds message

on mc

[viral garden]

You understand how little this helps right

[fierce jewel]

ill send a ss

i was just waiting for a response

[viral garden]

how did you install on serverside

how did you install on clientside

[fierce jewel]

what

i just set the shockbyte version to better mc 1.19.2 bmc 3 v11

and downloaded that version on forge

[viral garden]

update to v12

how did you install on clientside

[fierce jewel]

whats that

[viral garden]

Client-side refers to operations that are performed by the client in a client–server relationship in a computer network.

how did you install the modpack on your pc

[fierce jewel]

i just went on forge

and downloaded it

[viral garden]

!define

[grand gate]

Curseforge - Refers to both the Curseforge website and Curseforge Launcher. The Curseforge Launcher is a modded launcher used to play & install modpacks. ATLauncher is a better alternative. All modded launchers can be used to install & play both Fabric and Forge modpacks.
Modpack - A collection of mods. "Better MC 1.19.2 Forge", for example, is a modpack.
Mod - A .jar file which modifies the game in some way. "BetterEnd", for example, is a mod.
Forge - A mod loader which allows you to use Forge mods.
Fabric - A mod loader which allows you to use Fabric mods.

[viral garden]

how did you install the modpack on your pc

[fierce jewel]

im sorry man i really dont understand

i just clicked install on forge

im new modding and java as a whole

[viral garden]

!define

[grand gate]

Curseforge - Refers to both the Curseforge website and Curseforge Launcher. The Curseforge Launcher is a modded launcher used to play & install modpacks. ATLauncher is a better alternative. All modded launchers can be used to install & play both Fabric and Forge modpacks.
Modpack - A collection of mods. "Better MC 1.19.2 Forge", for example, is a modpack.
Mod - A .jar file which modifies the game in some way. "BetterEnd", for example, is a mod.
Forge - A mod loader which allows you to use Forge mods.
Fabric - A mod loader which allows you to use Fabric mods.

[viral garden]

please read

[fierce jewel]

i did

[viral garden]

forge or curseforge

[fierce jewel]

im brsainfarting

curseforgew

[viral garden]

two completely different things

[fierce jewel]

my bad

[viral garden]

update to v12

[viral garden]

,

latest is v12

your client is likely on v12

and the server is on v11

[fierce jewel]

wrong ss

only options i have to choose from

[viral garden]

shockbyte is bad so they dont have v12 yet

[fierce jewel]

i only chose it because they r cheaper

[viral garden]

you can complain to their support team or downgrade clientside to v11

[fierce jewel]

the game and server version are on v11

[viral garden]

were you ever able to join

[fierce jewel]

no

the server on different mods work

but not this one

[viral garden]

complain to shockbyte support

not our issue

[fierce jewel]

mb

[viral garden]

its ok

not your fault

[fierce jewel]

you think it would work if i used fabric

because support team is on different time zone

and ikm impatient

[viral garden]

go ahead

[stark zenith]

Is there anyway to improve chunk loading speed? When I'm walking, there's no issue. But when flying, I tend to outrun the chunk loading after a bit

[viral garden]

#faq performance guide

[stark zenith]

Done pretty much all there is in that guide.
It also mostly seems to focus on lag and fps, which are not an issue.
I'm averaging 400fps. It's just the chunk loading that seems to be slow

[viral garden]

!pregen

[grand gate]

https://youtu.be/UkkIpZSUnr4

[clever robin]

What's the best weapon and armor in this mod pack and what enchant to put on it?

[dense ruin]

Ultimerite is the best, but it will take you a while to obtain it. As for the enchants, you can see what they do by holding shift.

[sturdy citrus]

Cannot find nature dungeon even with / locate any thoughts ? How I can get to one

[viral garden]

make sure you're in the right blue skies dimension

[clever robin]

*bosses

[primal finch]

would anyone know why this pack won't open in curseforge? just freezes infinitely while doing memory heap

[viral garden]

#faq performance guide

[primal finch]

thanks. I have a pretty beefy computer with enough ram allocated. i could load better mc fabric fine but not the better mc forge ones

[cerulean forge]

tried to run better mc (forge) with the addition of minecolonies (and the needed addons), but the server keeps crashing. Didn't find any solution yet, any ideas?

https://pastebin.com/0PKgqXYg

[deft citrus]

any solution? error to download

hm, after like 3-4 tries it worked lol

[heady ginkgo]

Why was it so hard to find chickens in this goddammit

Took me 3 hours of actively searching in unexplored areas

[fair ibex]

Hey guys. I'm running Better Minecraft Forge MC3 1.19.2. I'm having a bug where dragon eggs are not spawning in chests. I watched a video where people were finding them in large chest in battle towers but in my server the large chests are completely empty.

[vale hemlock]

How do you open backpacks pressing b just opens up my waypoint

Nvm got it lol

[hidden lagoon]

They're probably disabled in the config

[fair ibex]

Do you know how to enable?

nvm i found it in the config

[crystal cape]

Do any of you have any suggestions on what mod to delete so I can get better frames?

Esp the particles ones

[whole tinsel]

Hello im still having issues with structures spawning in my better minecraft world all i see are villages and pillager watchtower and camp/outpost i dont find any dungeons or anything even after looking for a while with creative. I use curseforge app i tried using a different one which is ATLauncher it didnt fix anything

[hybrid pasture]

Hey i have some problems with this modpack. Fabric played just fine but Forge just doesn't create a map. It's stuck at 0%. And the data packs (almost all of them) are red and it's saying their meant for an older version. I use ATLauncher. Idk what to do tho. NVm i figures it out. It had only the default 5gb of space. Increase that to 8gb it works now

[alpine basin]

so basically i tried running better mc forge on a macbook pro 1.19.2 (i'm pretty sure) and with a migrated microsoft account

[dense ruin]

The villager zombie spawners found in the wild in BMC3, do they only work in light level zero?

[alpine basin]

and when i tried to create a world it was stuck on 0%

i forgot to explain the complication sorry

[whole tinsel]

.?

[alpine basin]

idk how to fix it i can't even play it

[hybrid pasture]

Bro didn't u see the comment right above you

[alpine basin]

OH

I"M BLIND

[hollow granite]

hello

[trim mason]

did they remove vein mining in v12 ??

[viral garden]

what's forge server starter

[viral garden]

no

[viral garden]

#faq performance guide

[robust hound]

soooo, does this mod still have backpacks, waypoints, alexs animals etc. I dont see it in the mod lineup anymore on forge?

[grand gate]

how fixe this

please i want play

[cerulean forge]

I figured it out, i had to delete my config folders on the server and on my client.

[viral garden]

that's a very bad idea

configs are important

[grand gate]

.....

[viral garden]

yes it has all of those

[viral garden]

!alternates

[grand gate]

We suggest using one of these two launchers for several reasons. They are considered far better than any other launcher. When installing a modpack on either launcher, do it through the Curseforge tab within GDLauncher/ATLauncher. You can transfer your Curseforge save to GDL/ATL. Because you are downloading the exact same files, you'll still be able to join the same servers and worlds.

ATLauncher - Slightly harder to use, works offline, fast and efficient, has more features. Can be downloaded from https://atlauncher.com/downloads

GDLauncher - Easy to use, works offline, does all the work for you, very simplistic and sleek design but it feels bloated to make it look nice and people do have issues with it. Can be downloaded from https://gdlauncher.com/en/download/

[cerulean forge]

Worked fine and it reinstalled the configs byitself

[viral garden]

it regenerated the default configs

not the ones we changed

you're going to have significantly worse FPS, many stability issues and conflicts

the configs are important

your original issue likely just needed you to relaunch the game/server

[cerulean forge]

Then ill look how i can reimplement them on my nitrado server

[viral garden]

deleting configs isn't going to fix anything

[crystal cape]

Thank you!

[trail vessel]

hoglin farm?

[copper juniper]

my better mc 1.16.5 when i start it up it just says saving world and then crashes can someone help me?

[viral garden]

!moreinfo

[grand gate]

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, )
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the **file **here. (Right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[rare igloo]

Is it necessary to activate something in the config so that dragon eggs come out in mineshaft?

[novel sorrel]

Hello i have been having a lot of trouble downloading the newest version, i get to the point where it says installing packs 2/6 and then it stops. the install just stops. no warning, it doesnt say anything after either and i have been trying the past 2 days. i can download other modpacks but for some reason i cant this one, is there any kinds of solution to this? i just want raccoons bro

[viral garden]

no

[viral garden]

!alternates

[grand gate]

We suggest using one of these two launchers for several reasons. They are considered far better than any other launcher. When installing a modpack on either launcher, do it through the Curseforge tab within GDLauncher/ATLauncher. You can transfer your Curseforge save to GDL/ATL. Because you are downloading the exact same files, you'll still be able to join the same servers and worlds.

ATLauncher - Slightly harder to use, works offline, fast and efficient, has more features. Can be downloaded from https://atlauncher.com/downloads

GDLauncher - Easy to use, works offline, does all the work for you, very simplistic and sleek design but it feels bloated to make it look nice and people do have issues with it. Can be downloaded from https://gdlauncher.com/en/download/

[rare igloo]

I went into creative and teleported mineshaft chests many times and did not find any eggs

[viral garden]

unlucky

[rare igloo]

Are they very difficult to get or do they not come out directly?

[quaint quest]

hello guys, is there no explorers compass anymore? or anything simillar? i remember long time ago there was but idk if it was removed or replaced with something else?

or what would be a good way to find dungeons if explorers compass is removed?

[viral garden]

the W key

and control to move faster

[quaint quest]

what about bosses? is there a compass to find the bosses?

i swear that was a think while ago

or maybe i played the fabric version back then? im not sure

[novel sorrel]

None of them worked:(

[viral garden]

elaborate

[rare igloo]

!help

[grand gate]

🚫 stard1890, that command is disabled in this channel.

[viral garden]

?

[tribal kite]

guys how do i use thuner striker?

[torn hill]

whats the mod that disables endermen's agro twords endermites

[viral garden]

attack while crouching

[tribal kite]

thanks

[compact gale]

!shader

[grand gate]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/customization/complementary-shaders
Alternatively,
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/customization/complementary-reimagined

[dense ruin]

Bro what the hell is going on with these spiders, I thought they were supposed to be passive during the day

I swear, I'm in the middle of the garden, growing my wheat, minding my own business, when all of a sudden a spider attacks me, completely unprovoked. This has happened 3 times already

[weak gale]

Can sm1 tell me how to get Hollow Crystals?

[dense ruin]

Legit searched for 'hollow crystal' in JEI and couldn't find anything. What mod are they from?

[hybrid pasture]

Do you need a full set of ultimarite (idk how it's called) to gain the boosts ? Or only a piece. Cuz it s a pretty big grind

[dense valley]

Will there ever be Better MC 1.19.2 plus? ☠️

I'm using translator

[viral garden]

no

[dense valley]

☠️

I understood

[loud haven]

Anyone know why my backpack went from 36 extra slots to 9?

[viral garden]

update the modpack

[grand gate]

what does this wierd green effect mean in the twilight forest?

these green square things just start covering my screen when i approach hydra

[atomic narwhal]

read quests, you have to progress twilight in order

[grand gate]

got it, thanks

[alpine basin]

how do you allocate

[atomic narwhal]

the performance guide tells you how

[alpine basin]

!performance

[grand gate]

Make sure you have allocated the correct RAM amount. Overall, you can allocate 8gb if you have at least 12gb of ram total. The #faq has guides on how to allocate ram. You can remove the mods dynamicSurroundings / ImmseriveFX and SimpleRPC. In addition, you can try a more lightweight launcher like GDLauncher or MultiMC, guides are in the #faq on how to use them.

[viral garden]

no

#faq performance guide

[alpine basin]

i'm on mac

:|

[atomic narwhal]

you allocate ram

in the launcher

......

has nothing to do with mac

lmao

[scarlet rock]

Failed to download file.
Name: labyrinthine.ogg
URL: https://resources.download.minecraft.net/b8/b83bbafa9799680da24f10215de2c40b73ce1fe3
Error details: transfer closed with 685735 bytes remaining to read
Filename on disk: b83bbafa9799680da24f10215de2c40b73ce1fe3
Path: C:\Users\maxan\curseforge\minecraft\Install\assets\objects\b8\b83bbafa9799680da24f10215de2c40b73ce1fe3
Exists: Nonexistent

what is this error

[viral garden]

!alternates

[grand gate]

We suggest using one of these two launchers for several reasons. They are considered far better than any other launcher. When installing a modpack on either launcher, do it through the Curseforge tab within GDLauncher/ATLauncher. You can transfer your Curseforge save to GDL/ATL. Because you are downloading the exact same files, you'll still be able to join the same servers and worlds.

ATLauncher - Slightly harder to use, works offline, fast and efficient, has more features. Can be downloaded from https://atlauncher.com/downloads

GDLauncher - Easy to use, works offline, does all the work for you, very simplistic and sleek design but it feels bloated to make it look nice and people do have issues with it. Can be downloaded from https://gdlauncher.com/en/download/

[alpine basin]

how to play multipplayer in better mc forge BMC 3

!multiplayer

for free btw

[viral garden]

!server

[grand gate]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[left sundial]

all my resource packs got disabled in the forge 1.16.5 59.5 version, does anyone has the list of pre enabled ones?

[viral garden]

reinstall

[alpine basin]

is that specified for windows? Or is it mac and windows

because i use mac and when i watched the video he was on windows

[viral garden]

then run the start.sh

[teal urchin]

please make sure you do chmod +x start.sh first

then do ./start.sh

[gloomy sail]

is there like a map to find the temple in the deeper darker or is it luck?

[alpine basin]

what is chmod?

[teal urchin]

its a command

to change the permissions of the file to add execute

meaning

you can run it

you can alternatively do bash start.sh

[proven kraken]

Hi can anyone help I am using the essential mod and can not see the essential buttons on the main menu

[viral garden]

do not use the essential mod

we offer no support for the essential mod

there is no reason to use the essential mod

!server

[grand gate]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[proven kraken]

Lmao besides it being free and running better then bisect which is ass

[viral garden]

self hosting is free

and it's impossible for essentials to run better than bisect because that's not how a server works lol

there is no situation in which makeshift LAN is going to run better than a dedicated server

[proven kraken]

Well I have issues with bisect and none with essential so whine ig lmao

[viral garden]

what issues with bisect

[proven kraken]

Poor performance desync and delay rubberbanding all the issues with a shitty server host

[viral garden]

none of those are bisect issues lol

they have 24/7/365 support

you literally choose where your server is hosted so i see no reason to blame this on bisect

[primal finch]

i cant get past the loading screen when i run better mc forge 1.16.5 not sure why. have tried on curseforge and at launcher now. have never had this issue

[viral garden]

#faq performance guide

[primal finch]

i checked - unsure what the problem would be - dedicated 8+ gigs to it on both launchers. i have 32gb ddr5 ram

[viral garden]

read & follow the full performance guide

do NOT click while the game loads

let it load

[primal finch]

yeah just let it hang out for 20 min. just freezes on memory heap and nothing changes

i have a 13900k / 3080, just weird

[cerulean forge]

is there a mod to change weather and day/night cycle in the better mc pack?

like, changing it that day last longer and rain appears less frequently

[scarlet timber]

What's the difference between forge and fabric 1.19.2 medieval?

[untold grotto]

why can't i add optifine 1.19.2 to this modpack

[teal urchin]

!optifine

[grand gate]

It is highly advised to not use Optifine, as it is very glitchy, will increase loading times to upwards of 10 minutes, and will decrease your FPS substantially. All Luna Pixel Studios modpacks come with shader support without Optifine via Oculus on Forge and Iris on Fabric. Optifine is also incompatible with all of our modpacks. The game will not launch with Optifine installed.

If you are interested in Optifine alternatives for your own gameplay, you can find a list here https://github.com/LambdAurora/optifine_alternatives
Note that a majority of these mods are already included in our modpacks.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046333354259259422/1046337216609271858/unknown.png

[teal urchin]

thats why

[manic olive]

is better mc 1.16 better than the latest one?

[weak gale]

yes

Can sm1 tell me how to get Hollow Crystals?

[rare igloo]

Hello, I have a better minecraft server on a 1.18.2 pc and the ports are forwarded in the firewall and the router and I get out of the wifi and I go and with the public ip it lets me in perfectly but it doesn't let my friend put it on Can't find the server, could it be a problem with your antivirs?

[viral garden]

#faq

[viral garden]

#faq

[viral garden]

check if your ports are open, there's websites for it

[rare igloo]

yes

[coral hare]

If my friend can join my server, but I can’t join his and get connection timed out, who’s ports are supposed to be open?

[rare igloo]

but neither the image nor the motd information appears, but for me on a different wifi yes

[weak gale]

Can someone please tell me where to find Hollow Crystals?

[viral garden]

your friends

[coral hare]

Thank you

[deep quiver]

would like to do auto restarts via a mod thats server side only any recommendations?

[viral garden]

!alternates

[grand gate]

We suggest using one of these two launchers for several reasons. They are considered far better than any other launcher. When installing a modpack on either launcher, do it through the Curseforge tab within GDLauncher/ATLauncher. You can transfer your Curseforge save to GDL/ATL. Because you are downloading the exact same files, you'll still be able to join the same servers and worlds.

ATLauncher - Slightly harder to use, works offline, fast and efficient, has more features. Can be downloaded from https://atlauncher.com/downloads

GDLauncher - Easy to use, works offline, does all the work for you, very simplistic and sleek design but it feels bloated to make it look nice and people do have issues with it. Can be downloaded from https://gdlauncher.com/en/download/

[tacit fjord]

Help, Better Mc forge 1.19.2 wont open

[viral garden]

!moreinfo

[grand gate]

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the **file **here. (Right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[loud ether]

so when trying to host my own server everything appears to load correctly except the rotten creatures pack

this error just keeps repeating

could this be an issue that i have java 19 but not 18?

[teal urchin]

unlikely but 19 is not tested nor recommended for minecraft

drop down to 18

as for the config issue

try deleting the config file and letting it regenerate

[loud ether]

its still doing it only difference now is its showing the server as online on my other pc

[grand gate]

hey does anyone know why better mc forges modpack is like 90% "made for older version"? im running everything on 1.19.2 and the whole pack is for 1.19.2

[grand gate]

only like 10 of the mods are actually usable in the pack for me^

[viral garden]

that's not true

just because it's red in the resourcepacks menu doesn't mean anything is remotely wrong

ignore it

[grand gate]

ahh okay

[teal urchin]

its a 1.19.2 bug with the dataversion

the packs work fine

[loud ether]

any other ideas on fixes? its saying config files are mismtched when trying to join but everythings the same

besides on the server side having 5 bak files and not having that on the client side

[teal urchin]

mismatch means configs are missing from either client or server

how did you setup the server

and how did you install the client

[loud ether]

i installed the client with the curse forge app on my laptop - installed the server pack using the curseforge website and then ran it using the start.ps1 file

using my desktop for the server when i goto the server configs i have this which these arent on the client side but if i open the actual configs everything matches and is the correct default

[teal urchin]

strange, you sure both are the exact same version?

of the modpack

[loud ether]

yep BMC3 1.19.2 - v12

ive posted in the rottenc reatures discord too hoping for maybe an answer + gonna try medievalMC to see if it works inside a different modpack

[teal urchin]

try a fresh reinstall of the serverpack + use ATlauncher

[loud ether]

i have

[teal urchin]

curseforge launcher can sometimes download things wrong

oh? still said mismatched configs?

[loud ether]

its not a client side issue its a server side issue

the client works fine

its the server i cant get to run it properly

also having the same issue in the medieval mc pack

[viral garden]

are there mismatched configs or is the server not running

two completely different things

[loud ether]

this is the server console for the medieval

[viral garden]

the server is started

[teal urchin]

im pretty sure the server has already loaded

[viral garden]

there are no issues here

[teal urchin]

the error isn’t preventing startup

[untold olive]

i need to make a 1.19.2 world that has only 1 biome on the surface but the 1.19 cave biomes underneath anyone know how?

[viral garden]

finding pupfish chunks mean mobs are spawning and the world is generating lol

generated, not generating

[loud ether]

right one second

ill try the atl launcher

alright well idk lmao third fresh client install allowed me to connect to the server

[wraith inlet]

Hi i just launched better minecraft in forge but a am getting lag spikes and fps drops.. i do have a fairly good computer setup so at least i would assume i should be able to run it

i haven't added any shaders and put most of the video graphics like in medium-to-low setting but everytime i move, it drops to 0 fps

here is the one i downloaded

[teal urchin]

follow performance guide in #faq

[hybrid pasture]

How do u get soul stone ? It doesn't have a recipe or any info at all

[untold olive]

i need a mod that removes the biomes that i tell it

for 1.19.2

[viral garden]

#faq performance guide

[warm sigil]

Any reason sophisticated core would be in conflict with any other mods? Trying to add storage draws and better backpacks to BMC forge 3 1.19.2

[wraith inlet]

welp, im still getting lag spike after following the performance guide in #faq

[untold olive]

complementary

[warm sigil]

Ye complimentary is good, turn view distance down to maybe 10, and change the shader settings to potato, all pop less lag

[wraith inlet]

it is the one im using, i tried to disable it. the game runs but after 10 secs, again lag spike

let me try tweaking some setting

[teal urchin]

!tps

[grand gate]

Please click this link and follow the guide. If you are using a server host such as Bisect, you may be limited in your options and instead have a checkbox to use Aikar's Flags, which will also work:
https://github.com/etil2jz/etil-minecraft-flags
If you can not launch your server/game after using these flags, then remove the word java from the start. Also, make sure you are using Java 18 on 1.18.2 / 1.19.2 and Java 11 on 1.16.5. These should be downloaded from Adoptium's website.

If lag persists, do the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[teal urchin]

set those jvm flags

and run a spark profiler using the command above

[wraith inlet]

setting this in curseforge app?

[teal urchin]

yeah

[wraith inlet]

ok let me close the minecraft first

ok set. let me rerun the game and run this spark profiler

ohh it crashed lol

[untold olive]

bruh 20G?

[teal urchin]

oh from the args

[wraith inlet]

wait yeah that was i was about to say lol

[teal urchin]

man i need to update that

command

[wraith inlet]

pasted the wrong args

[teal urchin]

also please remove the “java” from the beginning

and “-jar server.jar nogui” from the end

and obv tune the memory to your liking

20G is a tad too much

8G is plenty

[untold olive]

is there no mod that lets me say "these biomes, dont generate them."

[teal urchin]

not that i know of

[wraith inlet]

ok set it properly

[teal urchin]

should be

oh for cf

you change memory from the bar

the one where it says Allocated Memory

so you can remove the Xms and Xmx from the additional args

cf wont even use them iirc

[wraith inlet]

ohhh

ok let me remove them

thank you very much! after applying that java args, my fps is consistent

its been 10 years since i played any modpacks. and then i saw this

[balmy cobalt]

anyone have an idea why is the server crashing?

[viral garden]

!mclogs

[grand gate]

1. Locate the requested file
2. Upload to https://mclo.gs/ and save
3. Copy and paste the link here

[lunar tiger]

whenever i try to create a world it uses like 80% of my cpu and my pc overheats and shuts down

[cerulean forge]

is there any way to regulate or turn off the rain? It almost rains every 2min

[viral garden]

#faq performance guide

[lunar tiger]

says nothing about cpu usage or how to limit it

[viral garden]

read the full performance guide and follow all steps

[lunar tiger]

i have but more than half of the tips dont benefit me unless i can actually create and join a world

[viral garden]

that's not true

lol

[lunar tiger]

please tell me how entity render distance will affect my ability to create a world

i dont even think the term cpu is mentioned once

you cant even tell me how to limit the cpu usage xD

it just instantly jumps to 80% and crashes

but thanks for the help i guess

[viral garden]

google exists

you're just as capable of googling that as I am

[lunar tiger]

i dont think if i google how to stop bmc3 from crashing and using up loads of my cpu it will show anything

if i make the amount lower

surely it would crash easier?

[viral garden]

you asked how to LIMIT

not reduce

In Windows 10, 8 and 7:
Go to Task Manager.
Right-click the process for which CPU usage is to be limited. Click Go to details.
Now, the detail tab will appear. Right-click the particular process, choose set affinity, and choose the cores which you will allow the particular process to use.

there, I googled it for you

[lunar tiger]

i know that but if it is trying to use 80% then surely if i limit it, it will just struggle more

[viral garden]

but you asked how to limit lol

anyway, follow the performance guide and don't click while the game loads - just let it load

[lunar tiger]

okay then, how do i reduce how much it is using

[viral garden]

every method is in the performance guide

you can also play one of our fabric modpacks for better performance

or play on a #community-servers-info

[lunar tiger]

its just stuck on 0% created

[tepid flume]

hey the other day i was asked why i was using such an early version of BMC and i said it was because i enjoyed the heavy dungeon count. basically the dungeons were everywhere and various types. i was told the later version also had the dungeons by one of the devs here. i have spent 3 rl days going through biome after biome and no joke have found a total of 2 dungeons... where are all the dungeons????

is there a setting in the files i can adjust to cause more dungeons to spawn?

[viral garden]

every person complains about too many dungeons

[tepid flume]

guess that makes me nuts cuz im the opposite never enough dungeons XD

[viral garden]

if you obsessively want structures just play #medieval-mc-fabric

[odd spruce]

hi everyone, I am currently trying to setup a server with a modified version of this modpack (I removed some mods and added a few others), so far in singleplayer works perfectly fine, the problem is when setting up the server, if I try to launch it it does not work, it says a bunch of text that I do not understand and my only option is "press any key to close"

[viral garden]

what text

what mods did you add

what mods did you remove

[hybrid pasture]

I see what u are saying but on fabric there s literally a windmill every 3 minutes so u can play that . It doesn't really bother me .it gets kinda boring tho

[odd spruce]

good, I'll get you the details shortly

[tepid flume]

ya im on forge and found 1 windmill in about 60 biomes 😕

[hybrid pasture]

I'm on forge too. Played fabric for like 4 days and finished everything :)). It was so easy to get diamonds and netherite. It got so boring tho. This version has that vanilla grind which i like. You don't get resources that easily. But yea the dungeons are pretty rare. I even used /locate to find 2 specific ones cuz i needem them to evolve and they were so far away

[odd spruce]

this is the text:

[tepid flume]

yup thats my issue, understand too many but now its so light you run for days in rl to find a dungeon making progression a tooth pulling experience 😅

[hybrid pasture]

The only problem for me is the nether. In the end i found some and in the overworld u don't really need dungeons for quests. But the nether has like 4 structures you need to find that are rare and it's impossible. I found the awful ghast dungeon like 6 times but the nether keeper or the netherite monstrosity is nowhere to be found. The config is so weird. They give me like 6 dungeons of the same boss but no other boss

[odd spruce]

these are the mods I added:

[odd spruce]

and I do now know exactly which ones I deteled but if I recall:
-Mods with new structures and dungeons generation
-everycompat (made it crash because it tried to compatibilize everything from macaw
-upgraded netherite
-frosted friends
-backpaacked
-skinned lanterns
-bamboo eveerything
-FTB quests along its core
-simple storage network

[tepid flume]

oh i know even with /locate we could not find the monstrosity lol i swing a bit some days i just wanna build while others be a loot goblin and it saddens me i cant be a loot goblin in this

[odd spruce]

as previously mentioned, it works perfectly fine in singleplayer, I tried lanplay (worked 95%) but ya'll said that it just isn't worth it

[deep quiver]

would anyone know how i would auto restart a bettermc forge server if using autorestart forge mod alongside bmc?

[vernal bison]

!optifine

[grand gate]

It is highly advised to not use Optifine, as it is very glitchy, will increase loading times to upwards of 10 minutes, and will decrease your FPS substantially. All Luna Pixel Studios modpacks come with shader support without Optifine via Oculus on Forge and Iris on Fabric. Optifine is also incompatible with all of our modpacks. The game will not launch with Optifine installed.

If you are interested in Optifine alternatives for your own gameplay, you can find a list here https://github.com/LambdAurora/optifine_alternatives
Note that a majority of these mods are already included in our modpacks.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046333354259259422/1046337216609271858/unknown.png

[vernal bison]

what files do i need to take out of better minecraft 1.16.5 to add optifine

[viral garden]

!mclogs

[grand gate]

1. Locate the requested file
2. Upload to https://mclo.gs/ and save
3. Copy and paste the link here

[viral garden]

!optifine

[grand gate]

It is highly advised to not use Optifine, as it is very glitchy, will increase loading times to upwards of 10 minutes, and will decrease your FPS substantially. All Luna Pixel Studios modpacks come with shader support without Optifine via Oculus on Forge and Iris on Fabric. Optifine is also incompatible with all of our modpacks. The game will not launch with Optifine installed.

If you are interested in Optifine alternatives for your own gameplay, you can find a list here https://github.com/LambdAurora/optifine_alternatives
Note that a majority of these mods are already included in our modpacks.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046333354259259422/1046337216609271858/unknown.png

[viral garden]

!server

[grand gate]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[tepid flume]

is there a trick to use vein mining? got the book put on pick axe stood and squatted and it dont work

[deep quiver]

set the key within keybinds

[viral garden]

hold the ~ key

[tepid flume]

ah thx 🙂

[deep quiver]

@viral garden what can i put within the start.ps1 to make it restart the server with the Auto restart forge mod?

[odd spruce]

i saved the latest log, now what should I do?

[odd spruce]

I would go with the free method if I could change the mods, I tried using the serverpack with my selection of mods and it happened the same thing, all that text in the console and closing is my only option

[viral garden]

!mclogs

[grand gate]

1. Locate the requested file
2. Upload to https://mclo.gs/ and save
3. Copy and paste the link here

[viral garden]

read

[odd spruce]

ah, i see, sorry

https://mclo.gs/RazhpTb

https://mclo.gs/5w0EQDU

This one is the debug log

[viral garden]

please read the readme

you can't use java 19

[odd spruce]

oh true, it should be 18, right?

[viral garden]

yes

[odd spruce]

i'll try using the correct one and I'll update you

thanks!

[balmy cobalt]

can anyone help me why my better mc server is crashing?

[viral garden]

!server

[grand gate]

We suggest renting a server from Bisect Hosting:
Approx. $10 - $25 a month depending on what plan you choose. You can also get 25% off with Code LunaPixel.

Go to https://www.bisecthosting.com/LunaPixel and order a plan which fits you. We suggest 1GB per player but nothing lower than 4GB as the server needs at least 3GB to run.

Go to #server-hosting for more Info!

Free Method: (This is hosting on your own PC and it can come with issues that's why we suggest Bisect Hosting)

1. Download the serverpack from Curseforge's website
2. Right click the start.ps1 file and click Run with Powershell
   To join your own server, type localhost into Direct Connect.
   This video explains the process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuGUbVbLsDc
   The server IP address is your Public IP Address, which can be found by googling my ip address

If other players are unable to join, find a portforwarding guide online.

[balmy cobalt]

?

[viral garden]

oops

wrong command

[viral garden]

!moreinfo

[grand gate]

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the **file **here. (Right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[balmy cobalt]

---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Why is it breaking 😦

Time: 2023-01-28 00:51:19
Description: Accessing LegacyRandomSource from multiple threads

didnt modify in any way

just crashes randomly server has enough resources

3gb ram always spare ant more than 50% of cpu spare all the time

running 1.19.2

[untold olive]

anyone know how to use biometweaker to remove all biomes except the caves and one on the surface?

1.19.2

[viral garden]

!moreinfo

[grand gate]

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the **file **here. (Right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[viral garden]

answer all questions

or i cant help you

#7 is important

an excerpt of a crash report is never enough

[exotic mirage]

hi

I'm trying to create a server with some friends but I can't find the 64bit.msi file in the zip file

What I can do?

[viral garden]

what

theres not a file called 64bit.msi lmao

[exotic mirage]

what

[viral garden]

you're supposed to go to the adoptium link in the readme

scroll down

and install the 64bit .msi file

its not a file called 64bit.msi

[exotic mirage]

oh

hahaha

ok but

[viral garden]

it is a 64bit java installer using the .msi file path

[exotic mirage]

the page where I try to create the server asks me for a .jar file

but how can I get it if it does not appear in the zip that I download

I'm using minecrafthosting and multicraft to make my server

[viral garden]

why

[exotic mirage]

why what?

i need a .jar for multicraft

[viral garden]

why are you using multicraft and "minecrafthosting"

[exotic mirage]

idk a friend has a subscription on the page

[viral garden]

unzip the zip

run the start.ps1

the jar generates

[exotic mirage]

I already did it but the jar disappears

[viral garden]

wdym it disappears

[exotic mirage]

look at the image, I already ran the start.ps1 and if the jar was generated but then it disappeared

[viral garden]

"if the jar"?

im so confused

was the jar generated or not

[exotic mirage]

nop

appeared for a few moments and then disappeared

[viral garden]

do you have hidden files enabled on your PC

and check the libraries folder

[exotic mirage]

The hidden files are enabled, I will check the libraries folder

[tepid flume]

9 long hours later and i FINNAALLY got an efficiency book.... ive never had to do it for that long to get any level of eff book ever in years of playing... my server hates me 🤣

[lethal ginkgo]

What is the difference between Fabric and Forge? is it something I will notice as a player?

[viral garden]

#faq

[balmy cobalt]

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
   Didn't do anything fresh install
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
   CurseForge
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
   1.19.2
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
   server is v10.5
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
   Seems to be happening randomly
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
   It happens randomly
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the file here. (Right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
   Attached it
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in faq?
   Didn't see anything about server optimization so now, because on client side everything is good.

[viral garden]

10.5 is old

update the modpack

you're 2-3 versions out of date

[balmy cobalt]

ik, didnt want to bother updating the server, preinstalled from the host and yk its easier for me to dropdown a few version than update the server

nothing should break right? because its still the same version but just a dif build

[valid flower]

Anyone know how to make a backpack

[balmy cobalt]

open wuest book and left click on the backpack

it eill show you the recipe

and you always have all item recipes just search up the item u want hover it and press r

[valid flower]

Which one?

[viral garden]

yes

just update the modpack

[balmy cobalt]

oh the quests are diff

go into your inventory, search up backpack

hover it and press r

[valid flower]

Says that it's disabled

[viral garden]

there are 20 other backpacks

directly to the right

which are from a different mod and do not display that message

[valid flower]

Do you know which ones the normal one? Because the rest are dyed versions of it

I can't seem to find the original backpack

[viral garden]

the recipe will show you

[valid flower]

Oh ok

[grizzled flint]

Ive been trying to play Better minecraft 1.19.2 but it keeps on crashing when creating a world

[viral garden]

!moreinfo

[grand gate]

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the **file **here. (Right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[quasi abyss]

hey im on version 1.16.5, how do I turn an aether dragon egg into a ghost dragon egg? I placed it in complete darkness literally ontop of bedrock and it did not switch

[glad ingot]

how do i get my inventory off my screen?

[woeful pewter]

can some help me find what better minecraft version this youtuber was using

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5berUwy9tg

[viral garden]

press i

[glad ingot]

ty

[willow silo]

Hey all,

Just looking to see if anyone else is currently experiencing any crashes with BMC3 1.19.2 v12
Currently seem to be experiencing crashes on a privately hosted server, this is occuring when opening chests.
Taking a look over the debug logs it appears to be related to loot tables and generation, though I can't really give anything further than that at the moment.
Is this a known or common issue with this current version?
Are there any possible fixes suggested for this? been playing the world for a while and hesitant to restart.

I have also been noticing performance degradation on the server.
It is running on a public service, been allocated 18GB of RAM and is running on Ryzen 7282
So I don't believe this is going to be due to a hardware limitation, debug log doesn't provide much helpful information.

[valid flower]

How do I transfer my items?

[hearty temple]

Anyone have issue with stuttering and freezing? I have a really good computer and I cant seem to fix it

[willow silo]

Specs?

[hearty temple]

Intel Core i7-12700 / RTX 3070 / 16GB / 1TB SSD + 2TB HDD

[willow silo]

Hosted server or local save

[hearty temple]

Hosted server

just me and my partner

my game is fine

[willow silo]

Are you running on the standard RAM allocated to the game, or did you increase it?

[hearty temple]

I've increase it

-Xmx6048m -Xms256m is what its at the moment

[willow silo]

When you mention stuttering and freezing, is it the world generating and things taking a while there.
Or your game itself running at lower FPS or locking up for a moment.

[hearty temple]

Yeah I'd say FPS is dropping and its freezing/locking up

for a moment

sometimes stops completely

[willow silo]

I'm personally running my game at 12GB of RAM.
Its currently sitting just over 6GB of usage, so you are potentially hitting memory limits.
Push it to 8GB and see how you go?

[hearty temple]

reinstalling the game now to see if that works but just seeing if anyone else experiencing it

yeah Ill give that a go

[willow silo]

Running around I was peaking 9GB of usage, so likely going to be your limitation.
Large mod packs destroy memory usage in my experience

[viral garden]

need crash report

[willow silo]

Sure, where would you want that submitted

[viral garden]

!tps

[grand gate]

Please click this link and follow the guide. If you are using a server host such as Bisect, you may be limited in your options and instead have a checkbox to use Aikar's Flags, which will also work:
https://github.com/etil2jz/etil-minecraft-flags
If you can not launch your server/game after using these flags, then remove the word java from the start. Also, make sure you are using Java 18 on 1.18.2 / 1.19.2 and Java 11 on 1.16.5. These should be downloaded from Adoptium's website.

If lag persists, do the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[viral garden]

send the file here

[willow silo]

Here you go

[viral garden]

uninstall java 17

install java 18 adoptium

!tps use these args

[grand gate]

Please click this link and follow the guide. If you are using a server host such as Bisect, you may be limited in your options and instead have a checkbox to use Aikar's Flags, which will also work:
https://github.com/etil2jz/etil-minecraft-flags
If you can not launch your server/game after using these flags, then remove the word java from the start. Also, make sure you are using Java 18 on 1.18.2 / 1.19.2 and Java 11 on 1.16.5. These should be downloaded from Adoptium's website.

If lag persists, do the following command ingame:
/spark profiler start --only-ticks-over 50
Then, send the link in this channel.

[viral garden]

https://adoptium.net/temurin/releases/?version=18

[willow silo]

Unfortunately we can't modify the jre, its hosted by gportal

[viral garden]

its likely OpenJDK 17

and that causes crashes when opening chests & generating a map

hmm they're actually using adoptium 17

which is an odd choice

you can try removing Canary?

server is definitely trying to generate a map in the chest

[willow silo]

I'll backup my server and try removing canary

[willow silo]

Removed Canary, unfortunately same issue
Locked up our server, but it didn't completely crash out.
[06:45:20] [Server thread/WARN] [minecraft/MinecraftServer]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 51600ms or 1032 ticks behind
Freezing is much better than crashing, appreciate the help.
Testing on a second chest it crashed out again 😦

[silk viper]

Is there a way I can add the Replay Mod in the forge version?

[viral garden]

yep

delete the fancymenu mod

[silk viper]

is that it?

[viral garden]

yes

[willow silo]

Just tested with Java 18 Adoptium on a locally hosted server, unfortunately crashed there as well

[tulip osprey]

I have a question about better MC 1.19.2 server after windows 11 update and i can't run server, is there a solution ?

[viral garden]

!windows11

[grand gate]

An update to windows introduced a new security feature that prevents powershell files from running on your PC. This is great for your security, but not so great for our server start scripts, which require powershell to run them. Fortunately there is a quick fix for this!

Run powershell as administrator, then run Set-ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned. Read the prompt and press accept. This will allow us to run scripts.

Next, navigate to your server directory using cd path/to/directory (for example: cd C:\Users\Username\Documents\Minecraft\Server)

You can now run the server by double-clicking the start.ps1 file, or typing .\start.ps1 into the command line while in the directory.

IF THE ABOVE DOES NOT WORK, TRY THIS
Run the command Unblock-File -Path .\start.ps1 in the same powershell window. This will allow the start script to not be blocked by windows, and run freely.

If all else fails, a manual installation should work:
FORGE 1.16.5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIjisWyxU-8
FORGE 1.18.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R610M102X0U
FORGE 1.19.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HD0ibIpO-A
FABRIC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2W1Xb7nLKo
Make sure to Install the Server in our ServerPacks so it can use the correct files.

[silk viper]

It's not showing up T-T

[viral garden]

you removed the fancymenu mod jar?

and you added replay mod 1.19.2 Forge?

[silk viper]

added it into my mods folder right?

[viral garden]

ok yeah replay mod has no forge version lol

its fabric-only now

[tulip osprey]

yup

[viral garden]

as of 1.14.4 they pivoted to fabric only

so you need to play #better-mc-fabric instead

same process, remove fancymenu add replay mod

[silk viper]

awww okay thank you

[tulip osprey]

THANK YOU

[manic olive]

my game crashed breh

[long moth]

Hi, is there no sleeping mod in Better MC [FORGE] - BMC1 1.16.5 v59.5 at the moment? I can't find one and all server players have to sleep to skip night. If not, which one can I use without breaking something? Thanks.

[manic olive]

is it better to get netherite gear before beating the ender dragon or diamond gear is alright?

[hidden lagoon]

even iron gear will do fine

[manic olive]

oh

[untold olive]

fabric is more stable forge has more choices for mods

if you choose forge download OCD Shaders not Optifine

forge

but i mean you re asking in the #better-mc-forge

[trim mason]

i killed ur gast in twilight forest but it didnt count

[untold olive]

yea

is this your first time?

wow

wym

if you have curseforge installed you just need to create a new custom profile and then theres a list of all the mods you can put

you can also choose to play a modpack made by someone else

[dawn notch]

Starting the game does this

any fix?

I have reinstalled Java, allocated Memory to it and everything

and of course reinstalled the modpack several times

[manic olive]

i think he meant from where to download the modpack

also there are multiple different versions of better mc forge the one you showed is in the latest version of minecraft most people like the 1.16.5 version because its fully fledged

and also the 1.16.5 has a caves and cliffs backport mod so you can still find the caves and the warden but the world height isnt ported

[untold olive]

my modpack is basically done but i cant for the love of god make the world one biome while keeping the cave biomes

[untold olive]

like if i could at least make the structures and modded ores spawn that would be enough

but even if i tell them to they dont

[untold olive]

are you on a laptop or desktop?

[fossil flint]

hello! What steps should I follow to update safely my server hosted in my PC?

I mean update the modpack

[fathom umbra]

how do you add the shaders without optifine

like what mods allows that

[dreamy oriole]

its built into optifine

[fathom umbra]

i ment without

somehow this pack allows it

@dreamy oriole

[dreamy oriole]

no idea

[fathom umbra]

darn

found itr

[untold olive]

the ores from create and immersive engineering dont spawn in the desolation biome mod anyone know the reason? [1.19.2]

same with structures (yung structures, graveyard mod)

[woven burrow]

Hello, does anybody know if chunkfinders work with this version of better mc? looking to build a slime farm

[still yarrow]

Hello guys , i got the ultimerite sword but this makes bugs the server ( when i hit a monster the game freeze and cameback few seconds after) , do u guys know this bug and have a solution ?

[vale light]

hi. i have an issue starting the server. when i start the server with powershell, it would complete, but when i start up minecraft, it doesnt connect to the server. while watching all the things load in powershell, i noticed a lot of things said "error". at the end when it was preparing the spawn area, it never loads to 100%. it just stops completely at 98%. i tried downloading a new server pack and just starting the server from scratch, but nothing fixes it. i thought it could be a hosting issue, but i already checked and redid everything and it looked fine to me. i havent started the server in months, so idk if something changed that i wasn't aware of that is now not letting me host the server anymore.

it doesn't give me an error code or anything so i dont really know what to look for..

[violet grotto]

do yk if i can play iwth friends without buying sm

[rocky hound]

which world generator does this modpack use for nether and end ?

and how can I disable the whole tree breaking when I crouch

[teal urchin]

falling tree mod or tree chop

one of thise

[untold olive]

i need to make a mob from another mod spawn in a specific biome but the mod doesnt have a config file

nvm i just modified the mod itself

[cloud fulcrum]

are there any tameable mobs or bosses?

[untold olive]

ok so-

immersive enginnering ores do not spawn

the world only has the desolation mod biome

[viral garden]

that mod is not in the modpack

any modifications you make to the modpack are up to you

[untold olive]

wym

[viral garden]

immersive engineering is not in any of our modpacks

[untold olive]

yea i was asking for my modpack

[viral garden]

#off-topic

[gloomy agate]

why does my bmc always crash when i click singleplayer v 1.19.2
8gb ram allocated JAVA updated

[viral garden]

Do a full windows defender scan

disable windows defender and any other antiviruses

restart your PC

do not open ANYTHING besides ATL

launch the game

[glad oasis]

Game crashed when loading a new world. Here's the log:
https://mclo.gs/Nef2NvD

[viral garden]

!moreinfo

[grand gate]

1. Have you modified the modpack in any way? If so, what did you do? (Updating/adding/removing mods, changing configs)
2. What launcher, or program, are you using to launch the game? (CurseForge, ATLauncher, etc)
3. What Minecraft version are you playing? (1.18.2, 1.16.5, 1.19.2)
4. What version of the modpack are you playing? (v11, v9, etc)
5. What steps are necessary to reproduce the crash? (Launching the game, exploring the world, etc)
6. Have you ever gotten past the point where the crash happens?
7. Does a crash report generate? If so, send the **file **here. (Right click the instance, Open Folder, and go to the crash reports folder. Alternatively, post the log's text on mclo.gs and send the link here.)
8. Did you follow the Performance guide linked in #faq?

[glad oasis]

Aight, here we go again..
1.) Updating some mods, some mods removed that caused crashes/lag, no configs were changed.
2.) GDLauncher
3.) 1.19.2
4.) V12
5.) loading a new world
6.) no
7.) yes, file is above
8.) yes..

[viral garden]

#1 is your issue

[glad oasis]

Carryon was causing the game to not even start. I removed it and it loaded, but then crashed when starting a new world.

[viral garden]

i can not offer reliable support when you have a heavily modified version of the modpack

every mod that isn't updated was causing crashes

and you just updated them

so i don't know what to tell you

removing mods is also not a good practice

[glad oasis]

Yeah, that's understandable, but was hoping that you could maybe help me out by figuring out what the issue might be. I have no idea on how to read the crash reports..

[viral garden]

there really isnt any info in this crash report lol

[glad oasis]

Oh, damn lmao

[valid flower]

What's the best y level to mine diamonds at?

[viral garden]

same as vanilla

[valid flower]

12 or -65?

[viral garden]

are you on 1.16.5 or 1.18.2+

[plucky plume]

Guys i need help i build a pigman farm above the nether roof but nothing spawns. Why?

[compact gale]

!shader

[grand gate]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/customization/complementary-shaders
Alternatively,
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/customization/complementary-reimagined

[odd atlas]

yo im in a server for BMC 1, how do you go to the abyss because im unable to craft the unstable obsidian

[atomic narwhal]

you don't craft it, read quests

[odd atlas]

😮

thanks

[dark anvil]

I just got Better MC Forge, and when I put items in my inventory, they stay fully visible when I close my inventory. It makes it very hard to see. How can I fix this?

[viral garden]

press i

[dark anvil]

Thank you. Out of curiosity, which mod is it that does that?

[viral garden]

inventoryHUD+

you pressed the button to enable the extended inventory

so it enabled

lol

[ripe siren]

Out of all the mods in better minecraft, is there any better transporation method other than the default vanilla ones?

[warm sigil]

Any way I can get sophisticated backpacks to work with better Minecraft?

[viral garden]

add it to the mods folder

[warm sigil]

It conflicts and crashes at world gen

[viral garden]

i need a crash report

or latest.log

[warm sigil]

2 mins

[warm sigil]

Apparently 12 hours and 20 extra mods later they work now 🤣

[gloomy agate]

works thank you!

[ripe siren]

what'swhat's one of the really op things in better minecraft that i can grind my way towards?

[atomic narwhal]

ultimerite, if that is in the pack

[ripe siren]

lemme see

[ripe siren]

isnt that jus netherite with upgraded features?

surely it's not that hard to achieve

[atomic narwhal]

set bonus

[ripe siren]

what's something like really challenhing

netherite freelo with beds

[atomic narwhal]

#1065584702330773554

nothing is challenging in any of the modpacks but here imo

Well, nothing that straight-forward anyway

Grinding is not a challenge, limiting yourself is. Or playing a modpack that's very hard at the beginning.

[ripe siren]

hmm

i see

thx

[broken pivot]

i have a question how can i use freshly animation in this mod pack

like were can i find the settting 4 costum entetis

[odd atlas]

dragons are so glitchy ngl

[paper orbit]

how to add Mending to my Tools?? i can't use anvil to do it

how to use backpack?

[left sphinx]

right click

[viral garden]

press b

[viral garden]

send a screenshot

[left sphinx]

is sharpness or slayer better?

[empty oracle]

did i miss something with iron golems in MCJava? I built a villager trade hall around a zombie spawner, modified so that the villagers arent being terrified, just trying to get passive spawns to go fight the zombies that are spawned, or is this maybe a mod pack effecting it?

sorry, cant differentiate from mod pack and java since i dont have as much experience with it compared to bedrock.

[paper orbit]

thanks, the wrong keys binds cause this problem

[pastel garnet]

Is there no recipe for the void totem? The quest book has a task to "craft a void totem" but I can't seem to find a means to craft it.

[viral garden]

how did you install the modpack

step-by-step

and the stalwart dungeons diamond hammer probably doesn't allow mending

[paper orbit]

but.....

[broken pivot]

???

Plis does someone know howM

[viral garden]

how did you install the modpack
step-by-step

[paper orbit]

i use multiMC Launcher, i'm sure all steps are right. Maybe a BUG?

[viral garden]

How did you install in multimc

what did you do

[paper orbit]

ohh, i find the problem, the book is fake

[viral garden]

How did you install in multimc
what did you do

answer me

[neon wind]

[paper orbit]

https://multimc.org/#Download on officical website

[viral garden]

and then what

[teal urchin]

[paper orbit]

unarchive the ZIP you download

[viral garden]

yeah thats wrong

you used the serverpack

thats for servers only

you're missing 50+ mods and all the resourcepacks

please switch to a launcher such as ATLauncher

!alternates

[grand gate]

We suggest using one of these two launchers for several reasons. They are considered far better than any other launcher. When installing a modpack on either launcher, do it through the Curseforge tab within GDLauncher/ATLauncher. You can transfer your Curseforge save to GDL/ATL. Because you are downloading the exact same files, you'll still be able to join the same servers and worlds.

ATLauncher - Slightly harder to use, works offline, fast and efficient, has more features. Can be downloaded from https://atlauncher.com/downloads

GDLauncher - Easy to use, works offline, does all the work for you, very simplistic and sleek design but it feels bloated to make it look nice and people do have issues with it. Can be downloaded from https://gdlauncher.com/en/download/

[viral garden]

feel free to transfer your world save

[paper orbit]

thanks for answering

[cinder jacinth]

What's a base shield to make a Tetra shield? Been trying shields but no luck so far

[viral garden]

?

[cinder jacinth]

I'm trying to make a shield with the Tetra Workshop/Workbench, like most things (Except belt) you start with a "normal/vanilla" item and modify it

But I'm being unable to do that with shields

[viral garden]

Tetra isn't in this modpack

[cinder jacinth]

OH snap I'm in the wrong channel, mb

[pastel garnet]

Is there no recipe for the void totem? The quest book has a task to "craft a void totem" but I can't seem to find a means to craft it.

[clever matrix]

how do you add shaders to the forge version of better mc?

[viral garden]

drag into shaderpacks folder

[clever matrix]

i did that but its not worknig

do you need specific shaders or somting?

[viral garden]

no

all shaders work

you need to activate them in video settings afterwards

[hidden lagoon]

you don't have to craft it, just have to obtain it

[pastel garnet]

Thank you for answering. I presume it's similar to the vanilla totems, that it's not craftable then. I've jumped from v6 to v12, so I'm accustomed to crafting the "purple totem" manually.

[clever matrix]

how do i do that

[viral garden]

open video settings

shaderpacks

enable it

[clever matrix]

i went into shaderpack settings and it said (off) [fallback, check your logs for details]

[viral garden]

send a screenshot

[broken pivot]

Any idea some help plis

Is it possible or not

[viral garden]

What the fuck is that

lmao

[clever matrix]

luk

[viral garden]

are you configuring a datapack?

[clever matrix]

lul

no i downloadad better mc off of curse forge and it came like this

[viral garden]

no it didn't

[clever matrix]

only thing i changed is putting the mod pack in

[viral garden]

you added that shaderpack yourself

[clever matrix]

i mean shader

[viral garden]

!shader use one of these instead

[grand gate]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/customization/complementary-shaders
Alternatively,
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/customization/complementary-reimagined

[clever matrix]

ok thank you

[clever matrix]

they worked!

[fossil spruce]

how do i back up my world ?

[viral garden]

/ftbbackups command

[fossil spruce]

It says unkown or incomplete comand

[viral garden]

you need cheats on

and make sure ur typing it correctly

[fossil spruce]

Thanks

[fierce bough]

hey hey all, is there a way to hide armor?

[safe juniper]

is there any faithful like or higher res packs that work on bettter mc 1.19?

[plucky plume]

Guys i need help i build a pigman farm above the nether roof but nothing spawns. Why?

[unborn field]

Hey everyone, I recently installed v59.5 but suddenly it tells me modpacks are made for a newer version of mc, the pretty moon and water are gone for example. Can I somehow get this back or will better mc just be updated these days?

[viral garden]

what?

[unborn field]

this might be a super stupid question but im kinda lost 😳

[viral garden]

"it tells me modpacks are made for a newer version of mc"
what is "it"
what specifically is "it" telling you

"the pretty moon and water are gone for example."
what specifically are you referring to

[cyan shoal]

yooo

anyone wanna play?

[unborn field]

sorry, sorry, ill send a screenshot, just a sec 🫣

[viral garden]

#community-servers-info

[viral garden]

that means nothing

ignore it

those are resourcepacks, not modpacks

they are disabled for a reason

there is no reason for you to be in that menu in the first place

lol

[unborn field]

oh okay! i thought it was connected to the water looking like basic mc water again 😬

okay ill get my grubby hands outts the menu then 😂

[viral garden]

!reload

[grand gate]

To reload textures and sounds, press F3 + T. If this doesn't bring up a loading screen, do the following:
1. Press escape and go to the Resourcepacks tab.
2. Move a Resourcepack on the left of the screen to the right.
3. Move that SAME Resourcepack back to the left.
4. Exit the menu.
If step 4 does not bring up a loading screen, do step 2, then step 4, then step 3, and then step 4 again.

[unborn field]

loading screen came but water still looks the same, do i reload until it fixes?

[viral garden]

that wouldn't do anything

all of the resourcepacks that should be enabled are enabled

[unborn field]

i suppose ill just live with it, its not ruining the game after all 😌

[balmy cobalt]

anyone know what could be happening, i would be mining and vein mining suddenly doesnt work for me, but works for other ppl on the server,

[unborn field]

thank you for your help, chorb! 😊

[balmy cobalt]

.

[vital silo]

sometimes when i have played for like 1 hour, it randomly just freezes my entire computer, and i have to restart it. Anyone knows how to fix?

[sudden bronze]

how much ram would i need to run a server and play mc with shaders at the same time?

[viral garden]

shaders do not affect the server. how many players?

[viral garden]

#faq performance guide

[sudden bronze]

arouund 7, maybe 10 if i bring more friends

[viral garden]

8gb then

[sudden bronze]

like as 8gb for the whole system of just to allocate to the server

[viral garden]

the server

[sudden bronze]

daym

lol so how muchj would u need to run a better mc server + play with shaders + enough ram fopr te rest pc to use?

[viral garden]

16gb in total

[sudden bronze]

rlly? doesnt shaders take up alot of ram aswell?

[viral garden]

no it takes up GPU mostly

[steep ruin]

hey, how can i gain a higher reputation towards the town villagers so thati can open their inv etc?

[gusty epoch]

Hello, my friend and I play on the 1.16.5 version but he has a bug when the launcher finishes to build the modpack, but rather than having the menu of the modpack, there is a water sound, then a world loading screen with "saving wolrd" written, then it crashes

It is really strange, may we have some help please ?

Error: java.lang.RuntimeException: Error computing listener list for de.keksuccino.fancymenu.events.RenderWidgetBackgroundEvent
This is his error and the exit code is -1

[hollow pecan]

From the mod Frozen Up how are you supposed to acquire the Cloud Jumper enchantment?

[cosmic whale]

U right click them if they have a job like librarian or butcher lol it's vanilla

[steep ruin]

I meant guard town villagers

[cosmic whale]

The guards with swords?

I'm pretty sure they're basically iron golems they just kill stuff

[dusk ridge]

Hello, I just wanted to ask, when ever I try to craft something, my server crashes. Anyone experienced something like that? Can anyone help me to solve this problem? Thanks

[hidden lagoon]

do a raid and get the hero of the village effect

[hollow pecan]

anybody have an idea?

[steep ruin]

That mod doenst work well tbf, a lot of the features don’t work

[pale olive]

Which mods should I remove to use Optifine?

I keep needing to constantly wait for chunks to load. Never have this issue with Optifine

Also this happens

[teal urchin]

xy problem

follow performance guide in #faq

[cosmic whale]

!optifine

[grand gate]

It is highly advised to not use Optifine, as it is very glitchy, will increase loading times to upwards of 10 minutes, and will decrease your FPS substantially. All Luna Pixel Studios modpacks come with shader support without Optifine via Oculus on Forge and Iris on Fabric. Optifine is also incompatible with all of our modpacks. The game will not launch with Optifine installed.

If you are interested in Optifine alternatives for your own gameplay, you can find a list here https://github.com/LambdAurora/optifine_alternatives
Note that a majority of these mods are already included in our modpacks.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046333354259259422/1046337216609271858/unknown.png

[broken pivot]

How can i use fresh animation on this modpack

[cosmic whale]

you cant

!optifine

[grand gate]

It is highly advised to not use Optifine, as it is very glitchy, will increase loading times to upwards of 10 minutes, and will decrease your FPS substantially. All Luna Pixel Studios modpacks come with shader support without Optifine via Oculus on Forge and Iris on Fabric. Optifine is also incompatible with all of our modpacks. The game will not launch with Optifine installed.

If you are interested in Optifine alternatives for your own gameplay, you can find a list here https://github.com/LambdAurora/optifine_alternatives
Note that a majority of these mods are already included in our modpacks.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046333354259259422/1046337216609271858/unknown.png

[cosmic whale]

**Optifine is also incompatible with all of our modpacks. The game will not launch with Optifine installed.
**

since that mod requires optifine you cannot use it

[teal urchin]

iirc impossible on forge yeah

as above

fabric had a custom entity model mod

that has support for fresh animations

not forge tho

[open scarab]

how do i know if i should pick better mc forge or fabric

are they both the same modpacks?

[stark zenith]

Anyhow knows how to tweak the valuables for When Dungeons Arise in Better MC 1.19.2 v12?
This used to be a config file in 1.16.5 but apparently not in 1.19.2 and I am really annoyed by the frequency of some building and the fact that I have these insane huge structures at spawn

[unkempt zodiac]

Hi there 👋 I'm using BMC3 Forge. I added ore excavation for vein mining and for some reason when I mine trees it does so incredibly slowly. I couldn't find a setting within OE on it's own. Does anyone know what's going on?

[teal urchin]

#aureljs-projects

[stark plover]

hi my game keeps crashing whenever i attempt to create a singleplayer world

im on BMC3

It gets stuck on 0% and crashes

[teal urchin]

performance guide in #faq