🎮〕illuvium-zero

[sharp jolt]

Buying a cosmetic for $300 lol. Each to their own though

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-automaton-robot-laptop-oil-gif-7384339337185613233

[thorny crater]

you should see charizard cards....i sold my 1st additon one i had in 2008 for 50$ to pay rent

[vernal estuary]

RE: Fuel... I have 3 perfectly balances T2 lands. Paid the price of what a T3 costs now. I don't see any ROI of them ... I'm looking but can't see it.

[tribal zealot]

yee you should of seen how much I was making selling dota2 skins

[thorny crater]

mines 13 years at current fuel prices lol

[tribal zealot]

just can't cash out from the system

just credits to buy more games

[thorny crater]

40+if i go after BPs

free games is legitness

https://tenor.com/view/funny-smile-cute-legitness-real-gif-17153951

[ionic sierra]

My T1 has 3 hydrogen and 1 crypton. I wonder how many crypton I can harvest each time I mine at level 201. How long does it take to get to that level? I'm at level 111.

[thorny crater]

oo crypton nees carbon

yours going to have to take up space to make carb convertors

[vernal estuary]

Mind sharing your sheets, I really need to sit down and re-calculate before I rage quit this project. I really really don't want to.

[thorny crater]

at make lvl on a t1 i think is going to be 1.6 million/24h(without path bonus) time frame

just got my t1 to lvl 9 so do not have a lvl 6 fuel yet mine is also crypton

[thorny crater]

I can send you a Downloaded excel version if you like in your dm. but i dont hare links to anykidn of icloud networks I am on

I was supossed to do that for someone else and for got lol

[thorny crater]

ill prolly sell that second ont and the bottom middle soon

[vernal estuary]

Yes please do

[thorny crater]

here is a t2 i went BPs on...its very hard t scan bps on it. Im just start to get my fuel but but need to max all the passive convertors still

you have to stragtize on this one.

t3+ i dont even have to think lol

[ionic sierra]

why do you have crypton converters if you have crypton?

[thorny crater]

upgrade costs are not cheap

[vernal estuary]

no they aren't

[thorny crater]

scanners are stupid high in crstyal cost. for a t5 was 21 mil

pft

had to get the stoagre, only have two to lvl 9

which cost engeeir build lvll 9

its all cost

time really *

[vernal estuary]

I need to redo all of my layouts... but irl already consumes me

Those are no where near maximized for efficiency.. just a balanced adhoc mosh posh

[thorny crater]

redoing plots is HARD

[vernal estuary]

yeah it is

[thorny crater]

time consuming and takes a good minute. but look for Hamster's plots on here. his/hers is 🤌🏼

pretty much down to a science

[hazy tartan]

3700 credits!?!

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/making-it-rain-gif-617522917670078816

[vernal estuary]

Right! Where is my revdiv on those sales ?!?!!

[thorny crater]

apple took 30% tax

[vernal estuary]

Google FTW

[thorny crater]

37% went to the feds

lol

[vernal estuary]

haha

Wait.. how do feds get non u.s. - decentralized taxes ... hrm... consipiracy.. we just blew up the world

[thorny crater]

ah im from the USA sorry lol

different per country

[vernal estuary]

me too

[thorny crater]

this helps too

[harsh dew]

Is it possible that the bug is related with the missions ?
I noticed more lag as the numbers get biggers when collectings resources and the mission appearing on the left side it's creating some lag, Iphone and Browser.

On my Iphone, it's was lagging just a little bit at middle range and in the end the mission was making my application to close.

Have you guys considering this aspect when investigating why the game is not loading anymore ?

[plain hamlet]

Guys what’s the best strategy to maximize on fuel production for a T2 ?

Full converter for passive fuel generation ?

[vernal estuary]

I'm in VA, we just had a storm tear through here. No primary internet until Oct 4th.. Despite the midatlantic trunk east coast fiber interconnect practically in my backyard.

[thorny crater]

dont know if its the best but here is mine, fuel focused just got to lvl 9 this week. just need to make all converters and fuel banks and then just collect until futher addon/updates

[thorny crater]

oh dang thats not goods. Hope it all works out for yall

this will be a little be better with the eff %s and what fuel is there

path bonus is 17% right now

[plain hamlet]

Thank you bro ! Is there a maximum number of converter we can have ?

[thorny crater]

um there is but i do not remember lol

[plain hamlet]

Ok I’ll upgrade my nexus 9 tomorrow max out my excractors then I’ll just build converters erveywhere I can with power stations that’s pretty much it ?

[mortal bough]

5 days to get nexus 9 built

[thorny crater]

for fuel focused plot yes. I put more Cyprton convertors on this one becasue 1, i do not have all 3 fuel producing builds and 2 i want to travelmore in OW lol

for now

[plain hamlet]

Really ? It’s written 24h

[thorny crater]

things are coming
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[plain hamlet]

I have 2 Hyperion and 1 crypton so I’ll go hard on Solon and crypton

Is there a chart or something else showing at each stage how much each structure produces ? Or something similar ?

[thorny crater]

if you have not played some OW id say try it ut before maxing land, it take a bit. this was you can see...oh it take 1500 solon to fus a t5 satge 1 mon

and oh it takes 10 hyperion to cure one shard etc etc

[plain hamlet]

I’ve played a little bit but don’t really remember which one is the best to produce

[thorny crater]

im going for what i will have fun with so if your goal is profit i dont think ill help to much on that note lol

im banking on that rare illuvial find, or finding ways to support arena more.

[plain hamlet]

Good job it looks neat ! And 20% it’s great, I’m at 8% at the moment but I haven’t really tried to optimize anything yet

[spice vector]

Nope, missions is actually completely asynchronous to all gameplay by design (which is why there are sometimes small delays between actions + missions updating, usually no more than 1-2 seconds).

Think we have a release coming for this early next week for this and a few more loading issues 🙂

[vernal estuary]

It will.. just I can't play or watch p0rn. My phone be downloading images like p0rn in the 80's - 2minutes to see hair, 5m to see eyes... 10m to see the face... 20m to finally see cleavage... then right about 30mins in... you see clothes and scream wtf... nud3pic1069.jpg was sp@m!

[harsh dew]

Waiting patiently

[thorny crater]

Is there a way i can get the api to fuel production values, like this level produces this currently etc. Just so I can dynamically calculate what i'm trying to do

my goal:
I want to make my first website to just calculate land profits based on user inputs.

nothing crazy this is just for fun.

I tried immuta scan but i forgot fuel is not an nft

this way if the DAO updates fuels i can have those numbers automatically. if not it is what it is. ill figure something out

[rotund forum]

It is a bit time consuming but I did not find it hard, I re-did my plots by basically selling the level 1 powerstations and deleting roads. That gives you a lot of space so you just dump everything in 1 corner and start building in the other corner. In my case I had 3 scanners and wanted to put in 5, which is not easy… but you have to start with them to optimize the %. I also build in podariums and a garden area although that is future stuff (might as well plan ahead). I’m quite happy with the results.

[thorny crater]

i didnt want to wait on time for building power stations again lol i was at lv 8 when i decided to go BP for a t2

[rotund forum]

But l1 powerstation is one minute, it is not that much time to rebuild those. That is why I deleted them. Plants were actually worse because they keep coming back and the first ones are all 5 minutes to remove

[thorny crater]

true the deeathly plant queue lol

here is where i want the illuvium data. it doesn;t have to be polling like crazy, like 3 every 5 mins-10mins or whatever.

[hoary gazelle]

would be crazy if there would be ilv sandbox for developers. i see so many motivated people in doing crazy excel stuff and codings. And in times of ai everybody can give it a try. maybe so community can help the team. i mean people are motivated and if people have enough sparetime to spend in dev something what can help the project...

[mortal mural]

Impressive I did 22 on a t2 but I think 3 are not at max output efficiency

You can actually get more net fuel on max converters but you start to get like diminishing returns on ROI when not doing a max eff
Output converter. The investment on higher fuel output gets more and more expensive at the upper limit

So I thought 22 was fine. For now

[thorny crater]

Im using ai not to do the code for me but to help me learn

[thorny crater]

i purposely want more power stations...cause im deleting those for gym other buildings to come

[mortal bough]

Yes, 120 hours upgrade time. 24 hours is refering to the airdrop emergency resources.

[thorny crater]

oof

did that at lvl 2 or 3 too

[mortal bough]

My recommendation is to leave the "audio" settings alone. I adjusted mine and though the sound effects were pretty cool. Reloaded back in to the game about 5 minutes later... and started getting glitchy loading screens.

Turned them off and all good

[tall crypt]

anyone know where I can widrawal ILC from Mileston?

[ionic sierra]

What is the maximum amount of crypton that can be mined in a t1 each time you mine at its maximum potential?

[wispy prism]

I think a sandbox would be cool, yet take it to the next level, have a world outside of illuvum, where people are free to build whatever, yet have to use/transmute the resources of illuvum.
A few people have had similar ideas, I think down the track, like maybe when all the regions are done it could be worth re-visiting in ernest. ☺️

[spiral ravine]

I am not able to build new structures because of those fucking plants! I removed and then 2 seconds after they grow again! I think i have removed at least 30 plants! What is going on? I also send a bug issues report to developers but not even an answer! I don't have all this time honestly

Is there any developer in here?

[serene iris]

I had the same problem... if you keep farming them they disappear eventually. It's pretty annoying

[ionic sierra]

is it a t1? how much crypton! what is the reason you are not selling it if I may know?

[rotund forum]

Has anything been said about the next IZ update, including blueprint minting, podarium functionality, and megacities? I wonder if it will be one big update or several minor ones.

I think last thing that was said was somewhere mid november?

[stable minnow]

How do you get Path Bonus up to 20%?

[spiral ravine]

Do you think that if i keep remove they will disappear?

[spiral ravine]

Is a T3 and i am not selling because i need to upgrade the structures as quantum fabricant, converters and extractors

[rotund forum]

yes, it is a queue, once you get through it no new ones will appear and you can build without a network error. Try removing the same tree every time which will only take 1 minute instead of 5 for a fully grown one

[rotund forum]

a lot of buildings all connected to a road.

[stable minnow]

all my buildings are connected to a road, but can only get it to 12%

[rotund forum]

I think you need to get pretty close to the max amount of buildings which is 200ish

[stable minnow]

Thanks, that might be it

[spiral ravine]

ok thanks

[spiral ravine]

Are there people able to selling it nowdays?

[rotund forum]

I just checked. I have 150 buildings and it is 14%, one 164 buildings and it is 16% and then I have one with 181 buildings, but it only has 14% again. For me space is more important than reaching a higher percentage so not all is connected to a space consuming roadnetwork. But basically the math seems to be 110 buildings connected 11%, 190 buildings would be 19% etc. Since the top is 202 buildings 20% is the top for now. I don´t know when megacities come how that math would work, because if you have a 3x3 you could with current rules build something instantly. And fuelproduction would be instantly, so that is never going to happen.

[rotund forum]

yes you can sell, but it is still in decline. Last weekend I could sell 10k fuel for 13$ and now 10k sells for 10$.

[thorny crater]

Creat a ticket. It’s a plant queue bug. The more tickets created the faster it will be fixed.

I added a solution of “if a plot is loaded plant should not be allowed to grow” I think would be the easiest fix.

[rotund forum]

I haven´t checked really lately but I see revenue distribution was done anywhere from the 16th of september till today. But if they distributed 150 eth that would mean there was only 13 eth revenue in 13 days, so 1 eth daily since then, when in august it was 4-5 eth, and beginning september it was 2,5 eth daily. Anyone else keeping score of this?

[rotund forum]

or just max 10 plants. I remember first beta you come in after a month and it was just one big forest, there was no limit then, just the screensize.

[spiral ravine]

Exactly that's the point!

[spiral ravine]

That's a shit to be honest! If is in decline is not a good thing for the project itself. What do you thin about?

[thorny crater]

It’s a 19:1 ratio. Every fuel you sell 19 more or made

Even with a higher player base I don’t see how that works out.

Instead I’d much rather if I sell a fuel the dao just takes the 95% fee/tax and I get my 5%

It’s much simpler. Also the bonus system right now is.
What fuel is priced at vs the different. Bout two 7 pack bundles and got 8000 crypton as a bonus.

Very confusing.

[hoary gazelle]

yeah would be cool but also would take a lot of time to give us the opportunity to develop stuff on our own. But anyway it would be great if some comunityprojects around ilv would start just as you do or scoriox where devs, who have sparetime can vest their time in to make ilv a greater universe.

[spiral ravine]

I don't understand anything honestly!
The fact is that there are too much few players and the price is super down so i don't understand how we land owners can earn from that

[fierce jetty]

Did anyone have errors like this [Oops... something went wrong. Please reload the page to try again.]
on the illuvidex fuel exchange?
I'm trying to cancel my sell orders of fuel but it keeps giving me this error, I think this is the reason I can not enter my plot in illuvium zero because it's stuck in the fuel exchange.

[serene iris]

It worked for me, took a fair while tho

[spiral ravine]

Ook thanks

[hoary gazelle]

Anybody more than 18 extractors on T1 with optimized positioning ?

[thorny crater]

It’s beat is why there is no players.
Arena- lacks lobbies, leader boards, tórneme mrs and betting
OW- lack community interaction, raids, nguildes/clans, story is not done, no quests are there, illuvial need have have something gained by gaining exp instead of just fusing, eeds more action battles instead of chess.

Zero- needs gyms, maybe other way ppl in the other two games can do things so they can benefit.

All this is being worked on now

I am a zero and OW player only. I come from web2 and I will never work a 9-5 so other can get an ROI.

I don’t care about ROI at all.

I think arena needs to be top priority. Then ow then zero

Zero supports OW and OW supports arena.

This way the arena is the perfect player for crypto peeps and gamblers making bets based on battle skill/matches. High rush hishbreward

Ow is the story. This is where people can get attached to the chats of the game. I want people to cosplay illuvium at comic cons

Zero if it were up to me would be something like this. I’ll grab my TLDR link from feedback. Basically decentlozed land but not so sandbox creat whatever you want

#1269137697939652659 message

It got voted down because I’m trying to get F2P hooked so they can spend money.

While other just want thier ROI.

Like another idea. I don’t think plants should cost energy. But all should be NFTsz yeah the price would be lower on the markets

But I’d buy the f out of some ring nuts right now

[mellow quiver]

Should the Blueprints, bio and facts I minted in the last season show up in my in game inventory now?

What Tier plot is that, I don't see any resource in that city?

[hoary gazelle]

Cant send a Pic in Here 😦

But why you have them so Close ? I have ways more space between

[mellow quiver]

Makes a tidy layout when they are not scattered though the centre like mine

[hoary gazelle]

I dont Care about the Bonus at all
I dont get in there too often so i dont wanna max Out time i wanna max Out Output per farm

[mellow quiver]

efficiency = redundancy 🤟

[hoary gazelle]

sure but i am student and having 3 jobs so i dont have time and power to log in every x days. i dont play for selling fuels. just for having a "free battlepass" to travel the ow. so weekends i just want to collect and than do some runs with it. next week maybe same. but about time i dont care that much so i dont care if its 5 or 6 days. but the count of converters is important for me

[mellow quiver]

I'm still waiting to upgrade my graphics card to play OW. What are the fuel prices like at the moment?

[hoary gazelle]

as i said i dont care about selling or getting back any money as 90% of people here. i like projects like ilv more what kieran sees in it. people with vision are hard to find as i know by myself and if they succeed its more motivating for myself so i tank money in it to stick to projects where people realize their vision. So Landowning for me is to be able to invest one time money to get the opportunity to see how the vision is going forward. And as you know, when u invest any amount of money you will come back earlier than if ure not 😉

So back to my question. If ure not interested in maxing out the pathbonus whats the most you would be able to get in there. And to your pic u just send why its possible to have solonconverter and hyperionconverter directly next to eachother with 150%?
Just over energy ? Egalizes this the whole field bonus ?

[hoary gazelle]

yes i hope i am not a student my whole life ;D but who knows.....

okay nice! so 134% is a good call. ill reach out when i max it. I will try some plots with and some without pathbonus to make an sheet for that.
i am at 18 converters without any energy (bc pushed nexus from 5 to 7) and have some space left. So i think when i even get one more field with the energy i can get around 24 to 26

and besides that a 19h collect is stupid af 😄 i mean u really want every day to wake up just for claiming and than go back to sleep ? i mean if it would be 12h you would do one in the morning and one when u go to sleep. if u are accurate and do this every day on minute u have 5h sleep and a game is the timetable of your sleep. that is not what i think a game should take care of ;)) ( if its not your job🇩🇪 )

[hoary gazelle]

thx for this info i will give it a try.
your second message.... ya what to say about this .... just delete that.
the pathstuff yes i get it, just dont work out for me, maybe for others its better 🙂 i dont complain on that.

[spiral ravine]

I don't know anything of this. In your opinion will become true?

[timid sorrel]

The truth is the team already knows this game is not going to succeed. They are just putting in the minimum effort so the community doesn’t see past the charade…waiting for their time to make an announcement such as “we tried our best, we love our community, thanks for all the ETH but we are halting all efforts on Illuvium, it’s been a nice run, bye”. They got their $.

[spiral ravine]

If is like that i am gonna sell the land

[spiral ravine]

How can you be sure the game is not going to succeed?

[tall crypt]

Fuel go to 0.0000001$/unit.

[spiral ravine]

I don't understand why everysingle project i decided to invest money and time fails...i don't understand

[tall crypt]

They say they hired an economist to reverse the situation. The measures take time to implement. The great Kieran continues to play at the top of the dome. Too much power in the hands of one person.

[spiral ravine]

This is not a decentralized situation

[tall crypt]

They are all failing. Axie, Illuvium. They are very beautiful but economically they are not profitable.
Before, the initial bubble effect worked and now, due to excess competition and little entry of new users, nothing works. In May they launched an airdrop, if the user does not touch a single ILV of the airdrop it is impossible for new users to approach. Decisions in the hands of a few who fear that their own participation will be diluted.

[spiral ravine]

So better selling the land?

[tall crypt]

Nooooooooo. Not now. It will arrive more better time and will go to 600$ newly. I'm buying more. Whales are acumulating 133$ it's very cheap.. The big gamers of illuvium will convert a landholders.

[spiral ravine]

I bought a tier3 more than 600 dollars 2 years ago ...is worth it thousand of dollars

[timid sorrel]

Are there any positive signs the game is doing well? Players keep leaving, fuel prices are slowly approaching $0.00, the game feels like alpha/beta yet supposedly it’s been officially launched. No advertising. There are very few people that find this game “fun”…who would want to play this over TFT or League of Legends or Call of Duty? Only players here are from countries where minimum wage, they can barely make more here than working on a farm. Also influencers waiting out their paid contracts.

[tall crypt]

Don't tell lies. Tier 3 have never been worth $600. You make it up.

[spiral ravine]

That's amazin so what the fuck are we doing here?

[spiral ravine]

2 years ago i paid 7k euro man what lies?? is the truth

[tall crypt]

7000$ yes but You said 600$

[timid sorrel]

Tier 3 cost over $3000 during the initial sale.

[spiral ravine]

I said i paid more than 600 dollars man!! Read well

[fierce jetty]

Crypto games are still in development and no where near established games or game studio's ofcourse the game is still kinda shitty and buggy, but the final product may as well be a hit, just wait for it to become better and better..

[tall crypt]

I paid more 1$.... concrete a single price. Now a Tier 3 are 1500-1800$

[spiral ravine]

So what do you suggest to do?

[timid sorrel]

The team will run out of $, or make a decision it’s not worth their time/waste of $ to continue working on this before it ever becomes a “hit”.

[spiral ravine]

How can be better time if is failing man? I don't understand this controversy you said

[tall crypt]

And why didn't you dare to say this here a year ago?

[spiral ravine]

Didn't you invest in the land nft?

[thorny crater]

Sorry I was blocked for 6 days for a bit for those comments lol

[tranquil sparrow]

wait for 6 months boss said 🙈

[thorny crater]

But yes I think they will deliver. Look at what they did. OW is so freaking cool to me

[spiral ravine]

This comment is not so negative boh

[spiral ravine]

It is cool but not so efficient

[thorny crater]

Yes it’s boring right now, but it’s beta.

Beta for me is the thing like IMX ISSUES, or sending money to the wrong wallets this will stop all F2P player from playing

[timid sorrel]

That’s another thing, when you speak truthful here about how terribly the team has mismanaged $, made poor decisions, refused to listed to their customers, you get banned.

[thorny crater]

First time that happened

And I been talking like this since july25th

I give credit where credit is do, the team imo is doing great, but we have a long way to go for mass adoption

And I was supposed to be muted for 6 days. I reached out and within an hour…here I am lol

[spiral ravine]

Bah i think that is better selling now than wait go to zero

[thorny crater]

That’s who I traded out too lol haha

[tall crypt]

I have said that fuel is going to go down. 3 weeks ago I said that with fuel you could buy accessories and Illuvitars, that would create demand for fuel. I have not yet seen such a measure implemented. Regarding lands, tier 1s have remained above $400 for 2 years. The implementation of the game has taken them to $130. It is not time to sell land, even if they produce almost nothing, they are working. At market prices the 20,000 lands are valued at $9 million. On the other hand, the ILV tokens at market price are valued at $400 million. It is clear that the flow is going to go from ILV tokens to lands. No matter how bad you say the game is, it's not bad and the lands will be worth much more. Summing up. Only the disappointed sell and it is classic panic buying with low prices.

[broken roost]

Tokens get 95% revdis and lands 5% though

That's why the total value difference

Just saying

[spiral ravine]

Yeah i just care about ROI

[thorny crater]

Full disclosure.

I am a F2P player. I just started ff16, restart cyber punk bc the anime was SO GOOD, and I put over 300 hours into eldin cause my buddies and me love doing co-op pve and pvp.

I play as a way to except the world’s bs, have some laugh with my friends, and just decompressor.(worked this weekend and the boss’s EAM push erased all my work. I’m f’n pissed right now cause he didn’t have back up enabled)

[spiral ravine]

Ok got it so maybe during this next bullrun prices of land will increase?

Great

[thorny crater]

That said. I invested or gambled in this game because I love the teams vision, thier progres they can to make a 3d self control game like OW. That I want to HIGHLY support arena with.

plus the digital ownership aspect is a-plus. I want Illuvium to be sued by google bc google will not want to pay people for the data they mine.

I hope this game changes govts policies on who owns the data, and if it is sold the creators should get x% of profits lol

https://tenor.com/view/imagine-john-lennon-may-dreamer-im-not-the-only-one-gif-4410375

Hell like 2+ billion of USA citizens records just got released to the world bc of some stupid florida company illegally scaling websites where their security was shit.

So privacy is gone anyway

[tall crypt]

Look what they say about this character locked behind bars. Children come here. This is the classic landholder who cannot stand the pain of seeing prices drop. He can't stand the pain and decides to sell. That is usually the sign of the end, there are fewer and fewer like him. Weak hands sell on dips.

[spiral ravine]

Why do you talk about me in third person?

[tall crypt]

This factor will be change.

[spiral ravine]

I am in crypto field since 2017 i know what means see prices go down i had money during the drops even in 2020 covid panic selling...I stayed with my money and after got the results! But in the web3 games i don't have so much experience so be carefull about what you type cause you don't know me

[inland shore]

Are scanners broken? I run 10 daily and have not picked up one biodata in more than 2 weeks

what is even the point of land anymore

fuel is worthless and cannot pickup blueprints

[radiant sky]

i run arround 25scanners on my plots and i usually get 0-1 biodata.
something does seem a bit off.

[tall crypt]

So, why do you recommend selling to someone who bought at $900 now that it is at $130?

[spiral ravine]

Because if things are going to the shit is better than nothin

[inland shore]

thanks for supporting their pockets i guess

[spiral ravine]

If i buy eth and prices fall down i am sure that i have invested in a strong maybe the strongest project in this field. Can you say the same with this game?

[inland shore]

An all the team can keep saying is "wait 6 months things will get better"

yeah ok

talk is cheap

[tall crypt]

Well, at this price it is not sold. You have to be professional. And responsibly when you buy you hold on. If we buy just because without thinking, we sell because so as not to lose everything. If you have lost 80% when it rises again you will lose 300%. It's not going to shit.

[broken roost]

Well my napkin math says it should be roughly 36$

9Mx100/5
Divide that by 5M tokens

[spiral ravine]

It's not about feel comfortable with the pain of the prices go down, is just to understand if the team and the project are still valid. THose are 2 different things

[spiral ravine]

Well you didn't understand anything man! Sorry if can look arrogant but you didn't get the point about what i mean

[spiral ravine]

Are you sure will rise again? I look a lot of negative comments in this channel

[tall crypt]

This is the question. "years of hard work are enough to exhaust the team. An entrepreneurial team is not the same as a team that manages what is done. One thing is created and the other is made to grow. These skills do not reside in the same people

[spiral ravine]

And what is the answer to this question? I am curious to know it

[tall crypt]

It can't get any worse. Discord doesn't have the final say in the game. And the team sooner or later (they are very slow) will implement improvements that will bring the lands back to a reasonable value. Imagine if they say they want to spend $2 million buying lands?

[spiral ravine]

Yeah i can imagine but for now are just thoughts. I mean i am not able to find a good place where read strong news from them

[tall crypt]

Actual temps= improve. Next team = grow

[spiral ravine]

Ok so now is not the time to sell i got it! But reading some comments i was a bit scared about it so sometimes i don't know what to think

[ocean haven]

if you want ROI you should look into beyond insted

[spiral ravine]

Since i am not a gamer but an investor so my goal is earning

[spiral ravine]

looking what?

[ocean haven]

faar better ROI then land

[spiral ravine]

I don't understan what project you mean

[ocean haven]

illuvium beyond

[tall crypt]

Learn to read and go to your house boy. Do whatever you want.

[spiral ravine]

I don't know what it is. Is it connected with the land?

[spiral ravine]

Why do you repeat what i text?

[ocean haven]

bacisly a collection, like collecting pokemon cards

[ocean haven]

not connected to land

[spiral ravine]

Did you know water is wet? I discovered today

[tall crypt]

Our conversation is not real. It is a translated version

[spiral ravine]

ok thanks man

[tall crypt]

Play Illuvium and you will de-stress.

[spiral ravine]

I am not a gamer

[tall crypt]

must create a passport account illuvidex point illuvium point io

[spiral ravine]

ok thanks but for the moment i don't want add other things

[tall crypt]

You arrive here for touch eggs?

[spiral ravine]

Don't know exactly what you mean to touch eggs but just for earning from my land man

[tall crypt]

Tocar los cojones

[spiral ravine]

At least boobs if possible

I don't understand why you are so against me

[broken roost]

well firstly you don't need to know how much revenue is comming in or how much fuel a land sales, because you already have the ratio which is 95 to 5 and you know that 5% divides into 20k (or 9M value) and 95% divided into 5M tokens as you suggested game revdis

you are calculating ratio between token and land, ratio is what matters

i dont know what you mean by weird fuel accounting. At this point we could just ask chat gpt

fuel isnt even relevant her

btw my napkin math is much closer to reality, which doesnt prove it right but it does suggest you are either smarter than anyone holding ILV or something is odd

[dire pier]

Crypto doesn't care about revenue. Even stocks don't

What's the revenue of doge?

But you love to hyperbolize and act like you know what you're talking about

Cool, now explain why you are such a miserable human being

[broken roost]

thats true but far from the topic i think, we were discussing what should be the token value compared to land value given that we know the ratio of revenue distribution which is what supposedly gives them value which we have to assume true, if not there isnt much sense to discuss it

actually not far from the topic, just part of the premisse

[dire pier]

Or are people who masturbate to their own FUD actually very cheerful irl? Idk, I'd rather figure you out than talk about a ridiculous "premise" that crypto needs revenue to have value

[broken roost]

people are different, you like to discuss some things, i like others

or so it seems

btw anyone knows when next ama is? I'd like to ask if there are any plans to return value to fuel or we are just letting the market decide from now on

[spiral ravine]

That's an interesting question which i would like is going to be answered

[tranquil sparrow]

Daymn Fraggy's out

[keen maple]

Hi, is it possible to get both the Drone and the Armor blueprint from doing research? And, is it possible to get multiple armor blueprints of the same illuvial, or just one?

[autumn ridge]

eyy first stage 3!

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/knocked-up-comedy-romance-paul-rudd-yeah-gif-3465970

[versed warren]

Its unfortunate to see so much fud around the project, we need more gamers not investors. Anyone whos played or anticipated a game before would know that features don't happen over night and that betas are usually full of bugs and never polished. Illuviums state in my opinion is that they have 3 solid foundations that now need to be expanded, shifted, and polished. I am heavily invested but thats only because I like the IP and vision of this game. Im looking long term, 5-7 years from now. Actual reasonable times for a AAA game to be developed and hit mass markets. Most of you, not all, but most seem to think only one day in advance and it's not going to help the team progress further when theres so much fud. Keep giving your opinions but consider if its going to improvethe project, or if your just looking short term for a money squeeze.

[broken roost]

gamers are investors that invest in fun. Game is not fun so there arent many gamers
By investors you probably mean people who invest in profit, there isnt much profit so investors are either complaining or leaving. I dont see how thats unfortunate, thats just reality

[timid sorrel]

What gamer would want to play this mess? Look at land for example, this team charged people $1000 for the cheapest land during the sale, and for having faith in the team and investing, you get a piece of land that is nearly worthless today. $1000 for something that generates fuel, and it takes what, a few weeks to get enough fuel to play the Overworld 1 time?
Even if you have a T3 land, it takes severs days to play the Overworld one time. Name 1 other game where a “gamer” has payed $1000 for a “membership” and only been allowed to play the game once every few weeks without paying more $?

[versed warren]

https://tenor.com/view/i-rest-my-case-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-my-point-exactly-i-prove-my-point-gif-20021831

[thorny crater]

Me

I’ll buy your land 50$ for t1s, 100$ for t2, 150$ for t3, and a t4 I’ll go 250$ each

Since “it’s going to fail anyway” is what I’m hearing. Then get what you can while you can

I’m going out like this if Illuvium’s does go bankrupt a year from now

https://tenor.com/view/boat-gif-16540205977504960360

[vivid cipher]

There’s no denying that land prices have gone down. And I’m not trying to down play that.

But stating that the cheapest land was sold for $1000 is a misrepresentation of the sale. Cheapest would have been minted for closer to $630.

And secondary sales during the actual land sale were occasionally even cheaper. Due to how sILV2 worked and how minters were able to turn an instant profit through secondary sales made in eth even when selling at less than their mint price.

It’s also a lifetime “membership” that is transferable that was never guaranteed to enable playing OW often using fuel from land.

But it is certainly not ideal. But that’s also how percentages work.

[keen maple]

Anyone?

[rotund forum]

it is not unusual. I have my 50 clicks of fun every morning (25 scanners 25 biolabs) and yeah 0-3 is about the rate. 3 on the good days 0, 1 or 2 on mayority

[rotund forum]

yes, you can get 4 droneskins although there seems to be a bug they are aware of and only 2 appear (bach and Mozart), and as for the suit you can get several from the same illuvial. You can also get 5 facts per illuvial (which are basically misses).

Ehm is this an error, got the same blueprint?

[keen maple]

Awesome, thank you! Is it known how many suits one can get per illuvial? Will the Illuvial disappear from the research option once all the blueprints have been minted?

[hoary gazelle]

Well spoken 🤌🏻 People here never developed something and because the team was overmotivated to launch the game before full development done. Now people spamming problems and bugs and missballancing of stats and so on. Team needs to focus on base and all the other stuff can get done over time. Just leave the people working. And also most decisions are made from perspective of an investor, not an gamer. More important to catch more people to illuvium than getting more paid features and complicate things. Cheers!

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-gaming-time-when-is-gaming-time-gamer-gamer-chair-gif-24791444

[rose thicket]

Well stated. Any other rational to justify the state of ILV is naive or attempt to spin into a made up narrative.

[thorny crater]

consumer experience is 100% > than ROI at this time. But you can play every part of this game for free right now

only reason to pay is to ry and make money right now lol

if its boring, well yeah, there is low consumer experience lol

[timber sapphire]

Do you need higher lvl scanners for higher stages or just need to be lucky?

[thorny crater]

each lvl is a tier chance to catch. cant go higher. so a scanner 3 cant get t4 or 5

[timber sapphire]

What about stages?

[thorny crater]

oh yeah you can get all 3 from that tier. like i got atlas stage 3 from a scanner 1

been seadrch that bp for 2 months and nothing

but im never gunna give up lol

samwe with his stage 2

[timber sapphire]

Can you get a higher stage before the lower one or do you need the lower ones first?

[thorny crater]

oh good question....i never paid attention sry

[timber sapphire]

I've only got stages 1s so far

[thorny crater]

biodata and BPs are rare

[timber sapphire]

I'm trying my best with 2 on my t2 plot

[thorny crater]

at launch i believe they had them come to easy. im glad they made them harder to find tho

oh yeah you have to startize on a t2. id say max everything first, but not all your scanner/labs

reason

[timber sapphire]

I wasn't able to look for them at that point so I was kinda screwed after

[thorny crater]

a t1 biodate will cost a t1 lab price, but if you research on a lvl 5 lab that same t1 will cost a lb lvl 5 price.

[timber sapphire]

Yeah I only need to max a few converters

[thorny crater]

on my t2 i went lvl scanncers 1,2,3,3
labs 1,1,2,3,3

labs stil a work in progress tho lol

[timber sapphire]

Yeah I only have t1 biodata at this point so don't need higher lab yet

1 lvl 1 scanner 1 lvl 3 scanner, 2 lvl 1 labs

[thorny crater]

noice

what fuels?

[timber sapphire]

For extractors?

[thorny crater]

yeah like my t2 has 3 hyerions lol

i wish iwent for 1 of each

[timber sapphire]

2 hyperion 1 for travel, forgot the name

[thorny crater]

nice crypton

[timber sapphire]

Ye

[thorny crater]

my favorit casue crypton is for travel and hyperion is for shards aka poke balls

[timber sapphire]

Ye, but also lacking solon was hard to build sometime

Can't imagine with only 1 type of extractor

[thorny crater]

gota get those solon converters up lol

[timber sapphire]

Ye I got 4 I think or 5

I hope we get an option soon where you can rebuild your whole town with your buildings. I need to readjust a lot of the powerstations and so annoying with the little space I have left now

[thorny crater]

my two t2s

one is on BPs left the other on thr ight is fuel focuesed

the left is choas lol

true. a brand new company doing a the first 3D cruypto game is going going to be easy

and web 2 gamer im here for the story and experience i hope it brings

web 3 is about roi

or at elast 80-85% in this channel are for sure

they make me want to quit....but i already commited to se it through

those who want out i say go, not for me but for thier mental healthy. it cant be easy. I have about 8 k in this project, including prfits i made in ETH(6k), and i have ZERO emotioanl ties to that money

pun intended

I just thought it was a goreat Idea and took a gabling risk.

ok and if IMX cradsh with 1 mill players

f2p would leave yesterday

they have major bugs to work out, plus sign up and cashing out

both are WAY to hard. it should be like a casino. quick and easy

i agree on the art part though lol

hell FF16 i can barley play at all

i have to put it on low setting. like ftw. and some combat is just so glitch no matter what. at least this game i can "kinda" stream wiht it

[timber sapphire]

They had a million subsribers 2 years ago when they were supposed to launch but I think a lot lost interest due to all the delays

[vivid cipher]

These are exactly the sort of statements that we don’t allow on the discord. Telling the future and reading minds and disparaging the work being done by dedicated team members. I’m gonna see if ChatGPT can figure out how to show your displeasure without being so toxic.

[timber sapphire]

yeah we are no where near a million

that was only signups tho for the first few closed betas at the time

but Kieran is saying 70k players now too so maybe it was less at that time as well

total

no way sustained

i barely play and im already 1300 in leaderboard

[vivid cipher]

I recommend that you try something that would keep you from breaking the rules the next time you feel like this.

It’s important to take a step back and consider the value you’re getting from various gaming options. For instance, you can buy Minecraft for $40 and enjoy it indefinitely, or even access free-to-play games like League of Legends that offer quality experiences. Many top-rated games offer premium services for $5-$10 per month, giving players plenty of value for their investment.

In contrast, Illuvium’s land pricing, which starts at around $600, may not seem to offer the same level of value to many players. This disparity raises concerns about the future of the game and the pressure the developers may have felt from investors to push forward despite challenges.

There’s a risk that the game may never meet the expectations of both players and investors, leading to potential disappointment down the road. It would be reassuring to see more transparency and effort from the team to ensure the game can thrive in a competitive market. But, I don’t think there’s anything that will help at this point.

[tardy falcon]

Been busy with stuff... Any word on new things for Zero?

[broken roost]

Absolutely

[plucky venture]

That is completely accurate. I could not blame anyone who has had their limit of over-promises and under-deliveries. The things that keep me here are (1) that I have more patience that most folks, (2) the founders are mostly still here and still seem to believe in the vision, and (3) there are signs of progress.

[radiant sky]

not really

[sharp jolt]

Didn’t get to read the initial comment, but what rules did they break in game?

Edit: ah, they broke rules in here nvm

[plucky venture]

I mean ... they are NFTs. lol

Most of us wanted "Pokemon for grown ups." And so far, this ain't it.

[mighty raven]

can someone help me? why cant i build a scanner? even tho i have the required materials?

[lyric lodge]

Mate do you know there are many players who cannot even play their plots for weeks now, there are soooooo many bugs in zero alone, imo these stuff should have been sorted out way quicker

[opal thistle]

Maybe you need just a little bit more....the round up sometimes is deceiving.....what material appears in red?

[mighty raven]

yea its okay now i figured it out

[lyric lodge]

are these maxed out ? How much dollars do you make in a day from fuel ?

how much dollars does T2 make per day ?

[thorny crater]

0

Fuel one in the right not max out but will only be sending my self fuel.

On the left I just search for bps

I do not care to sell full right now.

[lyric lodge]

really ?

[thorny crater]

Yeah I don’t put nothing for sell

[lyric lodge]

so what does a maxed out T2 make per day in fuel ?

[thorny crater]

50 fuel per fuel type plus whatever you passive converters give you

[lyric lodge]

like i mean what is is aboutr in dollars ?

[hazy tartan]

What amount do you want?

[lyric lodge]

as much as possible ofc

[hazy tartan]

Maybe 75 cents a day, I’m assuming a lifetime length ROI on my T1 so atleast a bit better than that

[lyric lodge]

So a T1 makes 75c or T2 ?

thanks

[hazy tartan]

T2

T1 I might get a quarter a day

[lyric lodge]

thats not great ! thanks !

[graceful siren]

Could someone explain how I sell fuel? I’ve found “send fuel to overworld” but how do I convert it to eth?

[mossy peak]

if i buy a land, do i also take the progress of the land? or does it start from scratch?

[tired aurora]

it's reset

[radiant sky]

You have to sell fuel in the fuel exchange on the official Homepage.
Go to Marketplace #🔗〕helpful-links and then fuel exchange

[vivid cipher]

There have been a number of people that have said they’ve got an issue. I don’t personally have access to the support tickets so I don’t know how many would fall into that category. But yeah that should be fixed asap. I don’t know if it’s a single issue or multiple. Nor do I know what is causing any issue or issues that could be causing it.

Hopefully these players report the issues to #❓❓〕support on the website there or in game and share their plot id.

[radiant sky]

might not be unusual, bot not really in line with

[broken roost]

i can tell you with much confidence my scanner running at 100%efficiency is not finding bps 41% of the time

[thorny crater]

Yeah I couldn’t tell anyone what it makes cause I don’t sell lol. For now anyway I’m hungry for stage 3 runs….but I’m patient

[thorny crater]

I get a biodata once ever 2-3 days

Bps come from labs

But there are even harder to get

Which is good. Cause those who want fuel money won’t go for them, meaning less supply.

If illuvium ends up “going to the moon” good ole 2020 days lolz, then it’ll be so dope to have them

If not. Those who sold fuels asap would have made the best choice

Just found another biodata but failed all 5 labs lol but here is where I am at

This is a t3 btw. Fuel is NOT a problem at all

I’m going straight drone baby. Only armor I want will be the atlas s1-3

[radiant sky]

5x 100% scanner?

[thorny crater]

I keep my scanners around 80% labs are 150 tho

Let’s see

Starting left going clock wise scanner levels are 2,3,4,5

T3

[rose thicket]

Around two days ago, I finally got responses from support for tickets I submitted ~60 days ago. None of the replies were substantive. I am not sure if there is any means for accountability or to seek managerial review?

[rotund forum]

I redesigned my plots from scratch to have 5 scanners of minimum 90% efficiency. Most have 92-93 and some even 100%. But even so, finding new illuvials is a luxury nowadays. If you leave them at 80% it will be an even more difficult lottery to win. It’s both a nightmare and some fun entertainment to try to optimize the numbers on your plot.

[radiant sky]

mmmh... i always thought i'm just super unlucky. but last 3 days i kept note of what i got and it mirrors what i felt.
So either i'm just really super unlucky or there's some kind of weird bug that might affect some scanners/plots in a certain situation.
Anyways, i keep noting 4 more days so i have at least 7 days of data.

Super curious if it is an exponential decline in chance of success when efficiency decreases or is it linear.
Or are there certain treshholds to be met to get to the next stage of %success rate.

[rotund forum]

I don’t remember who said this here but it stuck in memory; dry season. There can definitely go by days of very bad luck up until the point where you are now starting to wonder if you did something wrong in a previous life or if the scanners are bugged. And then you have one day where you suddenly find a whole bunch of things. Hopefully you’ll have one of those days tomorrow or the day after to restore your faith

I’m still waiting for my first T4-5 stage 3, they must have an extremely low drop rate, although one guy here got his ramphyre, it is actually the only one I have seen who has a higher tier stage 3 so far. I started to think they were not available yet. I still think a lot are not available yet, same as blueprints.

[radiant sky]

na, have seen all t5 stage 3

[rotund forum]

In zero?

[radiant sky]

i get that.
but it's not just a short term thing.
Checking it since the update, i successfully scanned 40% of what i should have gotten statistically.

[radiant sky]

yes

i mean before patch you had like what, 75% chance of success if i remember right?

[thorny crater]

since the new update i think i found 3-4 BPs

[radiant sky]

yea same

didn't pay much attention to those since we anyways don't really know the odds.

[rotund forum]

But where can you see if someone has one? I mean if they don’t post it here, there is no way of knowing, no?

[radiant sky]

yes, but they got posted.

[rotund forum]

I need new glasses then probably 🤓 😅

[radiant sky]

Titanor
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Dualeph
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

Rhamphire
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[rotund forum]

I stand corrected! 😅

[radiant sky]

Adorious
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[radiant sky]

and there are a lot not posting shit in here 🙂

[rotund forum]

Yeah I imagine. I try to read up every day here but apparently not very efficiently 😂. Congrats to all who got lucky 🍀

[broken roost]

yeah i meant biodata

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-wanna-brag-but-i-will-spider-man-peter-parker-tom-holland-spider-man-no-way-home-gif-25180077

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-waiting-for-colin-jost-saturday-night-live-go-for-it-just-do-it-gif-21131379

[thorny crater]

Dat me

T2 flex

I love me some atlas

https://tenor.com/view/world-atlas-gif-10507928

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/smite-atlas-guardian-titan-gif-1458129283519060414

[timber vault]

hey does anyone know the easiest way to see exactly how much eth they purchased each plot of land for during the original sale?

[radiant sky]

click your land on the dex and then the activity tab.

[timber vault]

and then? it doesnt show price on there

[radiant sky]

it should

oh, it doesn't anymore

[timber vault]

oh lol

[radiant sky]

guess you have to check immutascan... check the wallet you bought land with

[timber vault]

weird it doesnt say the price on there either

[rotund forum]

why would they remove this info? odd

[radiant sky]

on etherscan you could probably check the money that went out that day, but not sure how to connect it to a specific land you bought 🤔

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-know-idk-dunno-no-idea-no-clue-gif-22858277

[vivid cipher]

Not something I know the answer to. I’ll ask.

Usually I find that there’s a way to continue the conversation in the email thread with support. Or at least to respond and say it’s not satisfactory

[timid sorrel]

Very strange indeed lol.

[mortal mural]

Is there a reason you go full drone skin?

[radiant sky]

i guess speculation about buying behaviour of people interested in skins.

[tulip fox]

@radiant sky Hello ser. Is there any point to do Missions 1.10.? Season 3 will be paused right? Or should I still complete missions? Or today is the last day?

[radiant sky]

today is the last day of season 2

yes there will be a pause between season2 and season3

[tulip fox]

Ok so no need to compete missions tomorrow right?

[radiant sky]

idk if there are any at all actually.

[icy thicket]

I gotta upgrade my Scanners - 1 week and have not found the last Tier 2s i am missing, those two need to get up to Tier 4 since i am almost done my tier 3s also

[inland shore]

So there’s no reason for people to play overworld?

[thorny crater]

Wild guess honestly lol. I’m just hoping drone kind of go for counter strike knife skins go for.

[grand silo]

whats the difference between the gold and blue blueprints

[karmic mica]

drone is yellow, armor is blue

[grand silo]

thanks

[mellow quiver]

How do you get coin credits now? Trees no longer provide. Is the only way to purchase in the app.

[feral ginkgo]

W or L?

[digital cloud]

Leveling up is the only free way at the moment

[mellow quiver]

Ok im not getting any on level ups, what's the template, e.g. credits per 100 levels or something??

[untold igloo]

Somebody has the Problem with stuck in a login loop?

For just one plot

All works but one of my Plots like in a login loop

[fierce fern]

Have the same problems on 3 plots

But does it matter at the moment.

Looks like its doomed anyway 😄

[thorny crater]

Blue is armor gold is drone

[rotund forum]

my 50 clicks of fun today. All repeats, zero BP just some facts.

[untold igloo]

Since Today also?

[tardy falcon]

rough on those days... had a couple of those days in a row too

[lyric lodge]

some have not been able to play their lands for two months and do you know what really annoys me , they have said NOTHING, like they are trying to hide, shhhhh dont tell anyone, lets no advetise this - nothing, no announcement , no acknowledgment, nothing, not even compensation or if they will give us credits, not a word, thats unacceptable. Dont you think ?

[lyric lodge]

more rough for those who cannot even get into thier plots for months

[digital cloud]

It's usually 1 per level. Some levels offer more. I think every 10th level gives something like +5 or +10? Don't quote me on the actual number though

[silk patio]

How many points do you have on s1 guys?

[fierce jetty]

Haven't been able to play my land either for 3 weeks, no response on the ticket even though I come up with reasons it might be not playable..

[thorny crater]

Anyone else maxing out the zero point transducer?

I getting ready for the bp update and do now want to be waiting lol

[thorny crater]

400k+

[radiant sky]

but you got some nice biodata 🙂
got an atlas BD today and a slashin fact

[timber sapphire]

How many levels does it have?

[grand silo]

glad you asked im wondering this as well

[radiant sky]

on the low tier, i'm with you 🙃

[rotund forum]

I noticed that between august and september I gained only 1/3 of what I sold in fuel in august... but in september I spend half my fuel on science so the fueldrop was actually not THAT bad as it seemed 🙈

[rose thicket]

If this is accurate, then the ILV economy is about three orders of magnitude away from reaching sustainability with monthly revenue if they reduce to a $1M/mo burn and payout RevDis.

[thorny crater]

I am guessing 5

For 4/6 plots yup just fuel lol

[silk patio]

How to get blueprints?

[radiant sky]

research biodata

[thorny crater]

build a scanner - scan for bio data -> build a lab -> research bio data for either a drone or armor but only a 5% chance of succeedinhg

[silk patio]

Thanks for the info. how about claiming the rewards for season 1?

[grand smelt]

Hello, Somebody knows, if is possible to pass fuel into my different lands in illuvium zero? For example, send fuel from my Land tier 1 to my land tier 2. Thanks!

[radiant sky]

not possible (at least not at the moment)

[radiant sky]

what about it?

[silk patio]

When is the claiming?

[silk patio]

I see my rewards of 1ILV

[radiant sky]

i don't know when it gets updated.
I guess we will have an #📣〕announcements

the vesting already started

[silk patio]

Oh i see

[vivid cipher]

Yeah there should be an announcement that addresses “wen claim” sometime On the 1st

[knotty sable]

I found a T2 illuvial on a lvl 1 scanner. So dose this mean I can also find higher tier on my lvl 1 scanner?

[vivid cipher]

Was it tier 2 or stage 2?

I don’t imagine any higher tiers would also be found.

[frigid stag]

Can I Connect my land to illuvium zero on my iPhone ?

Thank you 😇

[rose thicket]

ILV's fully diluted market cap is still ~$400 million w/ BTC.D at 57.33% and ILV grossing ~$20K/mo. Only in crypto is this possible.

[grand smelt]

Thanks a lot!

[thorny crater]

I know we talked about this but i am for and against it lol
for - because i don't have a mega city or took the time and $ to get it
against - because those who did take the time and $ i would feel for them. would make mega cities, to me anyway, obsolete

[lyric lodge]

and the team just wants to hide this, like its not even an issue#

[hazy tartan]

What if mega got to do it for no cost and others had to use transducer and spend (burn) x amount based on how much is being sent… could even do something based on distance apart on map

[lyric lodge]

no wya re they going 60x revune any time soon

[lyric lodge]

oh and even the plots are can play are broken, you move a tree and you cant build anything there, its very pathetic and I am so annoyed they wont even post an announcement to acknowledge this and advise how thye going to compensate us....just.........crickets

[vivid cipher]

It’s supposed to be implemented as player to player and not just a fake bot market. It does not seem to be a priority but it should be on the list to do still

[harsh dew]

Waiting on the update to fix it

[real salmon]

I cant seem to get over 141 credits for some reason. any ideas

[lyric lodge]

Why does the team not least make an announcement acknowledging they know players can't get into thier plots ad the plots that do work ....only halve worlk as you cannot building Anythung new and what form of compensation they are going to provide instead of pretending there is no issue s d trying to swep it all under the rug ?

[lyric lodge]

Ah your lucky you can even get into your plot

I hope you understand many of us cannot even access the land we paid for

[thorny crater]

yeah buying a plot at level 201 sucks lol

i wish we could see that plot before buying them, or have the option to list as can view

i think thats being worked on too

[lyric lodge]

Oh yeah join the group and some waiting 2 months to get fixed at the least the ones I can are OK.....oh wait can't building anything on them either..

Awesome

[harsh dew]

2 months.... this is not good at all if it's the case. It's kind of priority since the land is a Milestone in the Illuvium Universe.

[lyric lodge]

and radio silence from team as if its all just a myth. just seep it under the rug, no talk of compensation , when it will be fixed, just crickesa

crickets

[harsh dew]

Better talk to the illuvium council about it. The will rise up the concern with proper words and objective.

[vivid cipher]

Just saw that there is some back end work being done on this

[lyric hamlet]

We don't do pinned updates in this channel no more?

[spring bay]

any advise to build more stuff? I want to reach to 19/20% cooldown reduction 😦

hard to connect the path when there is not space.

structures build 176/202

[lyric hamlet]

Get rid of all the paths and shift everything to a corner to maximize all the dead space

Obviously leave space for the paths but shift as much as you can

Why do you have power stations around your HQ?

[spring bay]

Oh I did that today cause I was running out of time I need to priorize the 19% to be able to push the research to complet the mission for the airdrop

[spring bay]

and i have a death space here but I can't build anything because of the rift

here I can build, but I don't have a way to connect a path. here where I point with the arrow

here a more clean picture with the perspective of path building

[untold igloo]

@vivid cipher why the Support is not Answer the Tickets? I can not play my Plot because of this stupid loop wtf

[onyx scroll]

had similar issue after a month of not being able to play i just got back in and i lost all my resources and workers opened a ticket again and still no response

[fierce jetty]

They only responded after I sold my land 😅 but only asking if I actually sold it or not. Couldn't play my T3 for 3 weeks so, im out.. 🤣 things move to slow.

[untold igloo]

Wtf thats sounds Terrible....

[untold igloo]

Crazy So they Know about the issue and dont care...

[icy thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-assemble-will-ferrell-seashell-blow-gif-20525265

[knotty sable]

Can we do anything with blueprints yet?

[mortal mural]

Not yet until they can be minted

[icy thicket]

COMMUNITY COUNCIL = FEEDBACK POST

So just to sum up some of the feedback here that i have been seeing regularly.... please correct me if I am wrong:

• Problems with Lands (multiple unique issues)
• NO responses to tickets (.... or not yet = long delays)
• Problems been persisting for weeks to months without resolution = land unplayable
• Lack of Communication or regular updates (could include "known issues") - being sure to pin updates for ease of access if posted in this channel vs. Announcments 📌

Feel free to reply to this post to ensure I see it. We have a weekly meeting every Wednesday and I will be bringing this up in our topics this week 😀

** Since most Zero players spend time here in this Channel, it might be useful to test this out and see if it works this week ^^^ ❤️ **

[icy thicket]

Yes, No and 😬...

• cannot be minted yet, therefore no usecase in game
• since they cannot be minted, they cannot be sold or seen on Illuvidex (except for Alphas pre-launch)
• "technically" all you can do it stockpile them and get as many as you can now to be ready for when they are active

There should be advance notice before they are available to mint so everyone knows the process and can be prepared to mint right at go live!

[mortal mural]

Stockpileeeeee alll blue priiiiints !!!! Hahaha I am having fun with Iz actually. I feel bad for people not being able to play

[knotty sable]

Ok, is there a set number of blueprints we can find? I just got all my fuel sites at level six. Trying to figure out if I want to focus on harvesting fuel or working on blueprints.. I have two level one scanners at the moment.

[spare veldt]

Can we at least see what the skins will look like

[icy thicket]

Many are in #🚰〕leaks and #💥〕leaks-discussion

Not sure they are ALL available to be seen yet... but if so we can bug the team the LEAK em like they are illuvitars wave 3 😁

[icy thicket]

To each there own 😉
I am not sure it has been fully shared yet... but assuming it is similar to Alpha Season, this could be multiple per illuvial - I am personally getting one Drone Skin and one Armor Skin for each and then moving onto the next one .... so far, still haven't gotten 1 & 1 for a single illuvial yet lol

[radiant sky]

for each biodata you can find a blueprint for each drone (4 drones) and each suit line t1-T5 (15 suitlines).

[radiant sky]

• would be nice to get a list of all missing blueprints.
  like we just got the info by the way from theo when talking about drone blueprints that 2 of them are bugged and not available but no answer to what else could potentially be missing/bugged.
• would be cool if all skins would be available to see. At least in OW at the forge, but ideally in Zero and homepage (marketplace or in games section) aswell. So all parties involved (BP producer, skin crafter, buyer) have direct access to the looks of all skins.
• would be nice to have small patches with fast hotfixes, like the one with landplot loading, or the converter showing it's done even if it isn't, or building cost and time not correct etc.
• written info (ideally ingame, but at least in a blog or whatever) on how systems work. For example power system, efficiency system, blueprint system... like can i get multiple of the same Biodata/blueprint, is the decrease of successrate linked to efficiency linear or exponential and/or are there thresholds to be met similar to output of fuel etc. .... or the FEX, for example what happens if i cancel a half fullfiled sell order is it shared sales or does the DAO sell all and landowner nothing, are they working with priorities if half fullfilled sell orders get undercut, so it fullfils it first before the one who undercuts gets sold.

Some they might already be working on, but most stuff is affecting players right now or since months and often let them just speculate or rely on empiric data shared here from community members or here and there when a team member who knows all that hops in and shares some wisdom.

But in general, info on how IZ works and what buggs there are is spread here and there in this channel over months, some assumptions sometimes wisdom from teammembers and sometimes assumptions from teammebers 😄 .
Having 1 place to see all that stuff would be super helpful

[vivid cipher]

No that’s not been happening

[prisma trout]

@icy thicket
You are absolutely correct. Please help

[obsidian bronze]

One question I have is does upgrading your scanner do anything other than let you upgrade the data bank? It seems like it would maybe increase chance of finding biodata or maybe make it more likely you would get biodata on higher stage illuvials since it costs more to scan? I have a L3 scanner and it never seems to find anything...

And overall, it would be nice to have a written guide explaining how IZ works, and not just at a high level, but getting into specifics.

[vivid cipher]

Support will have included your issue in the list with those facing the same issue. Which would be addressed by the actual devs when it’s on the top of their priority list. The plot loading issue is apparently currently at the top of the list. And I think I read that a global backend fix is already being tested.

[radiant sky]

leveling up your scanner lets you find biodata of higher tiers.
for example if your scanner is lvl 1 you only can find biodata of T1 Illuvials.
if your scanner is lvl 3 you can find biodata of t1-T3 illuvials

[icy thicket]

Beat me to it 😉

Scanner level 5 is needed to get tier 5!

Thanks for feedback BTW
Will review tonight when I am on my computer and jot down my notes

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-point-gif-23257114

[radiant sky]

have a ton more, but not in my head 😄
Already writing on an extended feedback for Zero in general... soon posted in #1020759212172775464

[icy thicket]

2nd part would be a "major" guide which I believe might get someone tied into the "repository" where it explains all the buildings

Otherwise, right now the best guides are via content creators and dedicated websites (I know zero had been a a bit "neglected")

[obsidian bronze]

Gotcha - that makes sense...I think I've just been unlucky and my L3 just hasn't caught anything. Guess I'll start upgrading those things so I can get some higher tiers. Thanks for the response!

[icy thicket]

Then myself and other council members will see it as we are looking over all feedback ideas to see if there is anything that requires "proposals" (too many abbreviations so this will be all encompassing)

[icy thicket]

Make sure to check your EFFECIENCY

Scanners need to be for away from every other building
Lower percentages really do not find anything

[obsidian bronze]

Yeah, I've got two of 'em tucked away as far as I can...one's a full 100%, and the other 89% or thereabouts.

One little tidbit - I discovered that the Podarium doesn't reduce the scanner's efficiency, so I dropped one of those over by them just for fun

[icy thicket]

I got mine tucked away also... but nowhere for plants to grow 😆

[slim topaz]

totally off topic for anything, but can someone tell me what the "transfer fuel to overworld" thing is? e.g., from Crypton, it says like $1.34 or something. Does that mean I pay $1.34 to send fuel to my overworld account or does that mean I'm getting $1.34 for each Crypton I send (which seems a bit too good to be true).

[spare veldt]

Tease Something each week as part of a countdown to them being available.

[little moon]

I believe it's the value of fuel that you currently have based on current prices

@radiant sky can confirm 👆

[slim topaz]

So that mean all my croton is worth $1.34 if I transfer all of it?

And how is that transferred to my wallet?

[radiant sky]

if you transfer it you just transfer it, you don't earn with that transaction.
The price you see there is what that amount would be worth at top rail prices.

[fair temple]

finally something in here that i can relate to xD

[subtle frost]

I have not found a single Biodata from my singularity scanner from my T2 land after like 4 tries

is that normal?

[little moon]

the chance of finding anything is 5%

[subtle frost]

I found so much before from T3

did they reduce the chances?

[little moon]

nope, it's always been 5% chance

[fair temple]

scanning is 41% chance at 100% efficiency. So about 2/5 that you get anything. With 4 tries, that's a 60% chance per scan to fail -> 0.6^4 = ~5% chance. So not unreasonable

once you hit the 15 tries and no biodata, then it's time to become concerned 😛

[subtle frost]

hmm.. okay

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/im-concerned-klaus-hargreeves-robert-sheehan-the-umbrella-academy-im-worried-gif-26251389

[ruby merlin]

@radiant sky

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/sup-baby-yoda-grogu-gif-25118331

[ancient nacelle]

Does anyone have an idea what will happen with biodata when megacities are combined? With upto 9x each biodata in the data banks would there be a function to burn/fuse/combine each of the same type into a special version of that biodata type?

[simple lance]

does anyone know if there is a limit on labs. trying to add a sixth and it won't let me, even though I have plenty of what's needed.

[mortal mural]

5 is max

[simple lance]

thank you

[mortal mural]

5 scanners is also max

Converters is 12 of each but some people said that after 35 o33 (can’t remember exactly) it would not let them build any more converters

35-33 total I mean. But after 12 it won’t let you make more of that type of converter

[foggy sage]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mean-girls-lindsay-lohan-limit-does-not-exist-gif-14555807

[broken roost]

I very much doubt this percentages based on my experience

[mortal mural]

Sometimes I find nothing sometimes I get 2 biodatas at a time

Sometimes I get blueprints without facts

Some I got 5 facts no blueprints

I’m just thankful I got some blueprints lol

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pray-rngesus-beg-gif-14727259

[dire gust]

hi, I want to buy land but I don't have full information about this subject. Where can I find a detailed article on the subject? What is the approximate daily fuel income according to the land class?

[olive abyss]

how much was the original mint for land?

[strange pivot]

Can someone tell me when this part-time fuel sell/purchase system with bonus is replaced by an order book? This system feels wery non-transparent and strange

[pure fable]

what are the costs of the last material lab upgrade? (to max level)

[minor ermine]

Hi everybody i try to build the hydrogène pump but i Can not. All is red in the field. I assume this is because i have no lake on my field. How to modify it? Thank you in avance🙏

[thin wolf]

If you do not have a lake, you can make a Converter to produce hydrogen from carbon or silicon

[ancient nacelle]

@thin wolf and @radiant sky guys who do we ask these type of Q's to? #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[rotund forum]

Not bad catch today, although biodata was all duplicate.

[thin wolf]

Good question, I do not know the answer to that.

[thorny crater]

I never got dupe biodata before…unless I deleted one and it comes back

I been search atlas stage 2/3 for about two months and no BPs. I’m staying to think they are bugged. That’s around 60 days of researching them

That’s all I got in that time

[rotund forum]

yeah, I don´t delete anything anymore, as it just keeps coming back and dimishes the change of finding a cooler one.

[rotund forum]

My best guess is that you´ll just have duplicates. I had duplicate biodata on one plot and I still have duplicate blueprints on another. I thought it was a bug but now just thinking you can sell them off once that option becomes live. Don´t think they would make special blueprints for that for the time being. But that is just me, might be very mistaken

[radiant sky]

i guess the devs have an idea 😄
But official info about mega cities says no, there is no such thing planned as fuse or combine biodata.
You can however burn them, but thats a normal feature, nothing to do with MC's

[radiant sky]

i got an alphie today

[radiant sky]

don't think biodata will be mintable.
To my knowledge there are no plans to make biodata nft's

[thorny crater]

I did the same exact thing xD

[ancient nacelle]

Yeah, just seems to be wasted resources and a missed opportunity if nothing is done with multiples of the same biodata. I figured the delete option would just be for making space in the data bank. Once the Mega city function has been enabled I can't imagine there being the ability to get multiples again. Unless of course the city is dissconected.

[rotund forum]

I think once you “fuse” it there is no way back to having 4 or 9 plots seperately

[radiant sky]

i saw people having multiple of the same biodata on 1 land, I don't know if it is a bug or a feature tho.

[rotund forum]

Don’t want to rub it in but the biodata I had double was an Alphie 😂. Deleted it though and never occurred again since then

[ancient nacelle]

Yeah I had that once on one plot. I believed it to be a bug. I'm just thinking now with my MC I'll have 2 T3's and a T2 that have many of the same biodata.

[ancient nacelle]

I would think it could or should be able to be dissconnected. I guess we will find out.

[radiant sky]

Haha obviously had to be him. My first T5 i BD i found.

[rotund forum]

Expensive Alphie 🤑

[radiant sky]

Whole science thing is super expensive.
thinking about stopping it on all tiers and just sell fuels.
might rebuild it for set2, but on set1 it's already messy and i'm way behind since i just started scanning couple days before the nerf.

like that's my t4

others are collecting their last couple missing BD...

[thorny crater]

Lvl 3 is max for that transcender thing. I am BP ready baby

https://tenor.com/view/uzi-time-baby-uzi-time-lady-deadpool-deadpool-deadpool-and-wolverine-gif-16857931688847770310

[thorny crater]

4/6 plots do fuel.
T3-for BP is fine
T2- for BP I regret

It’s way to costly and we have to be super strategic

My current t2, not organized well it was my first plot I worked on. But until there is a better reorganize feature it’s staying like this lol

BP plot

Vs this one where I can easily add more converters if unwanted. But kept it like this for a reason

Fuel only t2

Only two builder on the fuel only one but basically just need to max converters and banks then I’m done building until updates

Eh. I say the opposite. If player base and consumer experience goes up.

They’ll be worth it. Unless illuvium fails. Fuels seller made the best choice but still lose in the end lol

Why? They are hard to get so less will have. Aka supply is low and if demand goes up so does price. Unless the opposite happens where there super easy to get and supply is stupid high. And no demand. I say keep them very hard to get and I hope less go for them honeslty

I say fuel seller will “lose in the end” if illuvium fails cause I doubt you’ll break even in the cost of land. Unless maybe you get today’s prices? Even then it’s a stretch

So in my eyes worth the gamble.

[radiant sky]

Yea, the overshoot of droprate in the beginning likely wrecked the whole market for set 1.
Then they also deleted the stages, cutting down 45 possible armor BP's to 15.
I guess there won't be any high tier/stage BP that will be a monopoly.
With the fuel cost attached it is questionable if it is possible to offer them so cheap that people buy, but one can still make profits out of it, keeping in mind that there are likely Illuvials needed to be burnt, dyes and other mats to be crafted.
And then you get 1 Skin for 1 Armor line.
Whereas in beyond, you might even make a profit while buying a skin you likely can attach to all kind of armors.

[thorny crater]

Ah crap I wish beyond was never made. I never played it yet just bought a disk to support Illuvium Never opened it lol

How much y’all making in fuel?

Total by day

[radiant sky]

yea totally

[thorny crater]

Ok f me then lol

[radiant sky]

just hope they make infinite levels with infinite stat increase

[thorny crater]

I’ll do my math on a t3 on why I’ll go BP

game has 1 year to not go banrupt. if i sell straigh fuel on my T3 itll take 8 years to break even

i lose

[twilit bough]

I am exactly like you. Also thinking to stop. Too expensive and I barely get anything. It drains like a third of the production with 5 scans and 5 labs

[thorny crater]

if im made fuel profit only id still lose money floor the other 7 year worth on one land.

so i am betting on consumer expepernce going up and this game become like fornite skin sales or counter strike

[thorny crater]

oh yeah i did not do that

all lvl 5 scanner and lvl 5 l;abs is crazy

[twilit bough]

I will keep them lv5 but just won't do runs

[thorny crater]

its a lose lose...except one lose(fuel) only give me a little comfort....i don't like comfort on gambling bets lol aka investing

high risk high reward and everything crypto is STUPID high risk...i love it and hate it lol

ok im done yall have my number id like to see everyone else

[radiant sky]

the only other thing is, what do you do instead. build converters? 😄
i can see the converter game on low tiers, like where you can double the fuel production on a t1.
But on a t4 you increase the total production by what? 15%?
and thats overall.
if you delete now science structures you can add what, 3 more converters? maybe 4 not even on max efficiency? That's like a fuel output increase of 1%

[twilit bough]

By 20%. And the amount of converter depends on the amount of fuel deposits that are not of your landmark.

[thorny crater]

A little more than a year* they have 12.16 months

This is why I ask for numbers.

With current expenses

[radiant sky]

20%?
How many converters you have?

[twilit bough]

Not deleting the structures. Just not running them. 16x3 per 10 structures to get nothing most day is not worth it

[radiant sky]

i should really start doing spreadsheet shit again 😄

[twilit bough]

Any converter increase by 20% at 180% efficiency

[thorny crater]

The ONLY reason I want to stop bps because I think there are bugs with some of them. Has anyone got a stage 2/3 BP for atlas?

[twilit bough]

Never did one for zero. Not necessary

[radiant sky]

i think i understand you wrong

[outer beacon]

Hi how can i earn illuvium in illuvium zero?

[thorny crater]

Cause 60daya and no BP is weird

[radiant sky]

i'm talking about the total fuel output of a land.
On a t4 one converter doesn't increase the total fuel output by 20%
1 converter is like 4.5% of an extractor and you have 9 extractors on your t4

[twilit bough]

Since the nerf maybe 2 BPs. Some fact. But the main issue is for those that didn't scan before that nerf

[radiant sky]

agreed

[radiant sky]

you also were waiting for 2nd wallet support?

[twilit bough]

The total max fuel output of a t4 land is 180*9.

For every fuel deposite not of the landmark you need to converter to move from 150 of the non landmark fuel to the landmark fuel with the 20% bonus

[thorny crater]

Ah well agree to disagree. I love the negative talk. I buy then and when people get all hyped I sell to them.

So more BPs for me. I’d still like to see everyone’s daily fuel sales lol

[twilit bough]

Only the old one are sellable right ?

[thorny crater]

For now

And I don’t even sell those lol. But new they would be cheap

[twilit bough]

At the end of the day we will all have the same higher level armor and people will care about the stage3 tier5 skins of those only

Who need a skin of tier 1 stage 2 on an average armor you will barely use

[thorny crater]

That’s what I’m working on now lol. I think atlas is bugged tho

[twilit bough]

Skin is really for OW. Barely visible on Arena

I got one bugged too. No picture

[thorny crater]

So y’all argument is fornite doesn’t match the most of its money from skins, even though they do, because everyone can buy the same skin?

[thorny crater]

It’s a younger generation thing. I too don’t understand it but who cares. A market is there for it so I’m going after it skin sales that have no value at all other than….what they say now is swag still a thing?

Mainly I’m betting on Illuvium’s success. Not seeing what I can get right now.

[twilit bough]

Saying a market is there is very optimistic. Definitely no market now but yeah hopefully there will be

[radiant sky]

cosmetics can be big in a game, and often are.
just not sure Zero cosmetics are the desired ones for their pricing and usability.

[twilit bough]

Yeah doing the same bet.

[thorny crater]

For illuvium no. For fortnight/cs2 absolutly

[twilit bough]

The main issue is that many player like to sell everything at a loss. You can get anything on the illuvidex way cheaper than With a run

[thorny crater]

See if they can buy other skins out side of zero.

The game is a waste of time and should have never been invented either.

[twilit bough]

You need just one dude selling the skin cheap for the same BP you have

[thorny crater]

I’m starting to see a trend. Beyond, zero, so far from this mornings chat, is starting to be worthless all together

We don’t supply fuel the dao does,

19 to our 1…if I have 18 why do I need your 1

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-stay-woosah-breathe-breath-gif-15684768

[thorny crater]

Then now I’m hearing there are other skins that can be bought when Bo’s were supossed to be a one Bo only.

[twilit bough]

Bo?

[thorny crater]

After this morning chat. I gunna say Illuvium is spreading itself to thin. To many money grab idea to get Mor income for further development.

[twilit bough]

If you meant BP. They never said BP are unique. Just hard to get and so many of them

[thorny crater]

10000% they did

That was a recent change

Ah yeah I’m starting to see the failure of the game now

[twilit bough]

Nah. I am here since the beginning. All land can get all BP but you have low chance to get each and you have so many that few will get the rhamphyr stage 3 of good armor for instance. But the longer set 1 last the more will have it

[thorny crater]

But I’ll stay to the end anyway. This 8k investment since 2019 may just be a loss. I’m ok with that I don’t have emotional attachment to it

[twilit bough]

Sets were to change every 3 months, then 6 then every year and now more but not defined.

I just bought a megacity so I am dumb too

The hope is that we are playing axie before it was famous

[inland shore]

Well at this point scanners are pointless. I cannot get them to find anything to save my life

[thorny crater]

100% were supposed to be "copyrighted" aka unique

i was here back then too

im might be complaining right now but same lol. I want someone's t4 for 1k lol well after this talk now 200$

[radiant sky]

that was like a very very early draft i guess.
Was already changed when i joined this discord arround the landsale.

[thorny crater]

That idk, but won’t look it up. I was here for land sale then after I back out of chats and crypto, still buying btc/eth every check but out in a cold wallet to forget about.

When I came back on testnet I heard about it. But not before land sale

Won’t look it up right now*

[twilit bough]

Good find. But that's just him not explaining well. It has been explained by Kieran and Aaron on many podcasts at the time. He should have said printing right of skins instead of copyright which, yes, give that idea of uniqueness

[thorny crater]

Still going to focus BPs just going with my gut. That said, I have 4 plots going striaght fuel lol. So I’m lucky enough to have both worlds going

[thorny crater]

I could have sworn Arron or Johnny had said it. Just don’t have time to go look.

Nonetheless I do hope we are all successful.

[twilit bough]

I would be happy to be wrong on that though. But just the many BP we got in alpha (that are not even unique to alpha) show that BP value will be inversely proportional to the length of a set. And set will be long

[twilit bough]

Honestly, maybe they did. Many things were said in opposite way several time...

Then I was told " if it is not on the announcement discord it doesn't count" lol

[thorny crater]

True true. I’m still proud of the team and believe in them

Ow is a master piece. It’s boring yeah but who cares the foundation is there and even has shooter capabilities.

[minor ermine]

Thank you i already have a converter but it does not producer a lot as it can not be upgrade. Do you have a screen about field with a lake? Thanks 🙏

[radiant sky]

you should be able to upgrade your converter, so it produces more.
Also if the efficiency is high enough, you can convert one element into another with profits.

[radiant sky]

just realized the same and wanted to ask if others have the bug aswell 😄

fuel and element converters, right?

[minor ermine]

Thank you so much i did not see the upgrade was possible, mybbad🙏

[spice vector]

Fix coming 🙂

[prisma trout]

@radiant sky
Yes, I have the bug as well. It's very frustrating to not be able to produce enough fuel just to upgrade my plot no matter how hard I try on my T1 land. Sheez!!

[radiant sky]

Fix is coming, as stuart mentioned above.
Yea, T1 is a hard task but that's just what they supposed to be.
Citybuilders are a marathon, not a rush.

i also get the feeling like you are the one to blame 🤔

[prisma trout]

@radiant sky
Thank you. I was spoiled, I suppose, with the alpha. It would be great to have that version restored.

@south mural
🤣

[radiant sky]

😄 i bet.
Tbh. i feel plots are still built out too fast. Might be because of the initial boost they gave landowners first weeks after launch that i'm thinking that way.
Like imo there should no t1 exist 2 months into the game having already nexus 9.
But it guess most people would think the other way arround, more like finish the whole thing in the 8 weeks we are in 😄

https://tenor.com/view/kenny-south-park-kenny-south-park-kennyaboba-turtle-gif-24341391

[undone phoenix]

I can play my plot again! 🥳

[radiant sky]

Haven't really crunched numbers yet, but high tiers always paid in a reduction of overall fuel output for that advantage.
I guess every high tier landowner would give up that advantage of a subpart of set 1 gladly to increase it's total fuel output.

[whole spear]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-21960775

[radiant sky]

can't just base it on fuel sites and the Science dilemma is another topic on its own 😄

[mortal mural]

I had some of those too. But was hesitant to share since I maybe wasn’t a understanding the underlying method

[radiant sky]

1 week?

https://tenor.com/view/justin-timberlake-snl-saturday-night-gif-26491818

[mortal mural]

I also think it was all too fast. I remember playing clash of clans it took months to progress but I’m not sure if it’s comparable

[radiant sky]

even if someone speeded up everything with tokens, basically deleted the building time, it's still not possbile because of fuel generation.
Dude likely lied to you big time.

however as i said before, give the t4 their 40x total fuel output compared to t1 and you likely have nobody arguing against the build out speed changes.

[rotund forum]

Exactly. I came to the same conclusion. Removing them is not worth the stretch but I may in one point stop research just to have more fuel to sell. It would however remove the fun aspect of zero completely. Just selling fuel is boring af. It is a game afterall, entertainment. If you see it at this point purely as investment… you’d be better off buying any stock or eft or shitcoin and probably make a lot more.

[thorny crater]

Took less than a month to get to stage 9 on a t3.

I just max my last building today to now it’s just collecting/selling/Transferring only left as things to do.

Which I am glad tbh lol

Bps(is my investment side) and I wanted fuel for OW. That’s it. If bps bomb at least I have fuel to play was my thoughts

[rotund forum]

Yeah that sucks, I remember an iranian guy/girl who needed vpn which cost quite a lot with their salary just to be able to play since their government blocks it. He/she got cut off from one day to the next.

[spice vector]

We didnt change anything related to network settings like this 🙂

[untold igloo]

Finally my Plot Loop shit got fixed 🙏

[rotund forum]

Ah ok. I stand corrected but I sometimes forget to turn off my vpn and there indeed was a time it didn’t launch due to “security reasons” if my memory serves me well. Haven’t checked lately though but glad if it is not an issue.

[spice vector]

We silently turned off the vpn restrictions with the caveat that we might turn it back on if the bots come back and become a problem

we left the country restrictions in place because sanctions

[rotund forum]

Anyway, I think the golden time of vpn is over soon anyway. I move around and I follow some programs on tv, which I can’t watch while abroad. It worked fine for years but now vpn detection software is getting pretty standard. Soon we’ll all be needing Starlink to avoid these issues 😅

[icy thicket]

#📣〕announcements message

Best news I read today!!! 🔥

@harsh dew were you saved?!?!

[harsh dew]

Can’t wait to see if I can play my land again!

[rotund forum]

Without free airdrops and with a need to pay bots will not return I imagine.

[harsh dew]

Saved ? What do you mean ?

[rancid turret]

Finally got my F2P plot back after not being able to load it for a month

[tranquil sparrow]

At least it gets satisfying

[icy thicket]

Able to play the game again 😉

[icy thicket]

You got some gardening to do ser 😆

[rancid turret]

Ya so many plants and it is now quite far behind my T1 plots as well.

[inland shore]

So what did they nerf this time?

[stuck vine]

dont have any think more to nerf

[icy thicket]

My Tier 1s are VERY behind.... 😆

[rotund forum]

nerf the trees! max 10 at a time

[rancid turret]

I want to buy more plots I just need more money and it looks like the airdrop might fix that. How many plots do you have? I only have 2 T1s.

[icy thicket]

1 tier 3, 8 tier 1s
2 are maxed from my bro playing
6 above I need to work on 😆 I am dedicating 1 day for each and will get them up to speed (hopefully!)

[knotty sable]

Dang, I can barely stay on top of my 1- T2 plot. Once everything is maxed out I might buy another.

How do you get your efficiency above 100% on a scanner?

[harsh dew]

A Scanner can't go above 100% Efficiency right ?

[radiant sky]

you can't.
was a typo in the patchnotes.

[knotty sable]

Ok thank you

What’s the cost on a level 5 scan?

[inland shore]

Scanners are broken anyway

[harsh dew]

What ? How , what did you mean ?

[harsh dew]

18 of the 3 types of fuels.

[knotty sable]

I have two scanners at 100% efficiency on my T2 plot. Both are working just fine.

[inland shore]

And finding nothing

[harsh dew]

In this case why don't they just make it simplier and only show the real % of chance to find something with the scan ?

Players don't need to know the backend part.

[hazy tartan]

Just bought my t2 for the same price as my t1 beginning of august 🤑

I’d be an idiot not to, turned out to be a lvl 201 max nexus with l6 fuel collectors already just gotta get some optimization and slam in converters

[pure fable]

what is max amount of scanners and labs per plot?

[radiant sky]

5 scanners
5 matlabs

[foggy sage]

Working on my last material lab then i will have all lands maxed out

[bleak maple]

Is there somewhere we can see the exact changes/adjustments to the f2p plot lands?

[sharp ridge]

+1

[radiant sky]

No

[radiant sky]

That looks pretty clean 🙂

[sharp ridge]

hahaha there is no time

I'll handle it asap

[bleak maple]

So it's intentionally being hidden? 😅

[radiant sky]

I wouldn't say that.
Probably thought it's not bring worth mentioned, or didn't had time to write detsilef patchnotes, but rather release the fix asap

[knotty sable]

So far I have found 4 illuvial’s bio data. 2 armor blueprints and 2 facts.

[tall crypt]

Very unuseful.... With 2 storage of elements is enaught. 2 storage at 9 level is good.

[lean comet]

sorry how do you sale you extra fuel?

[sharp ridge]

I got lots of benefits while accomplishing the daily missions, so it is quite opposite.

[hazy tartan]

Ludicrous building by the previous owner of my land, who builds 140 buildings for a 8% time reduction

[distant lodge]

Am I just seeing this!!!

So happy!

[sharp ridge]

are you f2p?

[distant lodge]

No

[sharp ridge]

so why did you shocked?

[distant lodge]

I didn’t realize the transfer was implemented until now, just happy to finally move my resources

[sharp ridge]

that's great

[whole spear]

Any issues? today after the patches?

[cinder lodge]

I made myself an overview with all the blueprints, illuvials & facts that I found so far

Is there for each illuvial 18 different kinds of armour?

And what about the drone skin? 1 for each illuvial?

[open stratus]

Gl rearranging that

[hazy tartan]

Gonna be a headache, but not as much of a headache as leveling it entirely

Atleast it had a ton of uncollected missions to get me back to max resources fast

[tardy falcon]

Worked fine for me this morning 👌

[unborn basalt]

whats a good land for just making fuel to get to S1+? saving to get a land and wanna make sure i get the best i can so i can be free of S0

[unborn basalt]

but also thinkign of uses of fuel in other ways, taking the time onthe land no matter the start up (i love ity builder also) you will have well over your starting investment with a flow of fuel youll never need to buy. imt hat kind of long term invester

[tall crypt]

Define a lot...1 Ilv / mounth

[unborn basalt]

IE: i plan to buy to play for long term, not to roi

also easier to play zero while working on calls at home vs playing illuvius trying to read scripts xd

hence why im playing OW now to try and save and plan correctly for a land i only need to get stage fuel on

i know, but i also have to factor if anything sells from said stages as well after the fact of using the fuel to maintain it. and thats a factor i rather eliminate the risk of

still new to the game as a whole, hardly played 5 days before milestone removal killed my drive since i did suits t3 and weps half way to t2

[twilit bough]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-gif-20530397

Burn the land used by bots to create more scarcity

[sharp ridge]

Lol I admire your imagination but it's way better than that.

[thin sphinx]

hey all quick question can i send fule from my over world to my zero game to use on my owned land?

[opal thistle]

No, you can only do it the other way around

[hexed abyss]

And no market-place building, that we had previous Zero version.... Why no P2P fuel trading? Even take 5-10% tax, I don't mind. Much better than selling for 1/4 to 1/3 of the fuel buy cost on illuvidex... "But your choice to sell...", yes I know, but it wont sell otherwise... What happens when fuel storage full? We gotta sell for nickles or stop mining/playing...

[tall crypt]

starving to death.

[prime raven]

finally i can login to my plot again after 1 month loading plot issue.. thanks !

[sharp elk]

If fuel is worth nickles that is what you can sell at.

I agree that they should make the real market price more clear.

[olive abyss]

How did the road bonus work?

Can someone explain please

[verbal igloo]

It provides a passive time reduction to the activities of the structures that are touching the path network

the more structures are touching it, the bigger is the bonus

[hexed abyss]

yes, a market is a market, but when land-owners have to compete against each other to sell at lower price (otherwise wont sell) and OW players are then able to buy cheaper fuel + getting bonus fuel is that a free-market? I don't think so, it favors the buyers.

anyway, love the illuvium world as a whole, and I have been staking for years.... but the fuel market is biased as I said above

[sharp ridge]

Not a single day 😉

[rotund forum]

I was still lacking ANY T4 or T5 stage 3, started to seem pretty much impossible to find them and yet today I got not one but two Biodata´s 🥳 🥳 . Nice catch 😀

[sharp elk]

Of course it favours the buyers. You are producing a product that almost nobody wants to buy.

Pick your metaphor but you are basically trying to sell tap water standing next to a drinking fountain.

[hexed abyss]

trying to sell tap water? you lost me there mate... I didn't invest thousands into Zero land to be selling tap water... 🚰

[open stratus]

The absurdity remains that the DAO prints 19x out of thin air. Nah that's not the problem though

And this ridiculous bonus system needs to be gone. Just tell everyone what the number is. Or let land owners sell it directly to the DAO, which then sets price based on demand.

[thorny crater]

Mega cities. If they do put in trade plot to plot it make mega cities basically worthless…excep if they did a t4 x1 and t1x3 and the t1s get the 900% t4 bonus.

Then it could be ok I guess.

[rotund forum]

I think it would not be 900% over the entire plot, I imagine it to be an average value. But nothing has been confirmed on that as far as I know

[thorny crater]

Yeah true I’m speculating

[sudden zinc]

@carmine pond GM! Do you know what the average amount of ILV Token for preseason 1 was? I played neartly every day, but the system shows me zero!! Maybe something due to the change to passport?? My initially wallet is not the same address as now the passport wallet address? Any idea? Thanks!!

[woeful gate]

hey! quick question about paths... do anyone know if you need to completely surround a building so that the speed bonus takes effect? or can you leave the corners open? or what is the criteria?

also, is there any place where more info can be found about buildings and the game as a whole? I'm finding a complete lack of documentation but that might just be me not knowing where to search

[woeful gate]

just touching a path is enough, no need to surround the buildings?

[verbal igloo]

thats correct

[woeful gate]

@verbal igloo @south mural and is the path bonus stackeable? meaning, if I put a path on a side of a building that adds 1% and another long path that adds lets say 5%, will the building take just the 5% or both? (essentially asking: should I fill the empty squares left around my plot with 1x1 paths or just leave them empty?)

thank you very much! and one last question... is it possible to use my fuel crates (obtained from holding plots some time ago) on ILV zero, or you can only transfer fuel out of zero, no way in?

[little moon]

The fuel crates you got for loyalty holders can be claimed and used in OW only. You can't transfer it to IZ. Once you claim them, you can't sell them.

[thorny crater]

One more t1 to get to lvl 9 just got this one done yesterday. Just need to make our converters and banks

[woeful gate]

how much fuel is this one producing per day for you?

[knotty sable]

Any reason why I would need to max out my element sites if I’m producing enough for the demand with all my fuel sites at max level?

[woeful gate]

how could he produce more fuel on that plot? O.o

[cloud lion]

Anyone experiencing the same problem with mine? When I try to click dredge on the solon extractor it does'nt start the activity even though I have enough silicon, energy and etc.

[open stratus]

Probably lacking power?

[thorny crater]

Yup hamster is correct. I can definitely do more. I’m not for two reasons.

1. new features. I want to delete power stations and not converters if gyms/other building become available
2. the % aspects has change 3 times since July 25. I don’t want to think about it lol. So I do 150% and those that don’t make it I keep at lvl 2-3, t1s only, for lower fuel conversions when I need

So depends on your goals

[open stratus]

Yeah there was talk about power station levels affecting efficiency. Hope that comes to fruition

[spice crystal]

Can't generate fuel..

[knotty sable]

I had the same thing happened to me with a bunch of element sites on my land. I had to contact Support and it took about a month before it got resolved..

[vivid cipher]

Click on the fuel extractor. How much power does it have?

They all look pretty low level power stations to me

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/power-dragon-ball-gif-14144919

[vivid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/heman-power-gif-14969607

[mortal mural]

more power is almost always the solution

[knotty sable]

You would think upgrading your power stations would help your efficiency. Being that when you add more power stations next to each other, it gives you better efficiency

[river ingot]

Geez, Just hopped in and to see everyones land setups is disheartening. I've just been casually playing with my T1 and T2 and I'm so behind. lol

[foggy sage]

I am the chosen one. Selling it for 1btc

[timber sapphire]

That's biodata, not the blueprint

[median oasis]

if we dont own a plot and we just use the free one available, are we able to use the resources from this in the overworld at all? or is owning a plot required to use items in the overworld?

[thorny crater]

Nope

[radiant sky]

Zero f2p is mainly for getting to know how Zero works before you have to pay for a Land nft. In future there might be more Fun, social activities and competitive pvp/pve features implemented.

For now:

• you can't sell any assets generated on your f2p plot yet
• you can't use any assets in other Games than Zero itself yet

However, you can:

• play for Fun
• play for Airdrop missions
• play for possible future features.

Also the tokens you generate with Level ups are Account bound. If you one day decide to buy a Land you can use those tokens to Speed that Land up or buy builders there.

[median oasis]

appreciate the response! Good to know that me getting to lvl 30 wont entirely go to waste if i decide to grab a plot in the future!

[radiant sky]

It's also nice for airdrop (paused atm) but last season people Made a good amount of points with the f2p plot

[median oasis]

thats awesome to hear!

[foggy sage]

Give it time my son i will jave every drone and armor blue print and we all look cool

[spice crystal]

I had to add 1 more to start but it's a scam . Everytime I upgrade i need 3-5 power station .

Upgrade for some reason doesn't work .

[lethal wyvern]

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[spice crystal]

Upgrade doesn't seem to work.

[spice crystal]

They are low lvl but i meet the power requirements and some

[open stratus]

Yeah balancing is key. If they get it right with the amounts so you can't abuse it - higher penalties for proximity etc

[vivid cipher]

That’s an odd one.

What version of the game do you use iOS, Android, from epic games?

When was the last time you updated the game? Is it possible that you need to update the game?

[thorny crater]

what lvl is the fuel building...there was a bug that says you have full power but you don't.

I keep all powert station lvl 1 except one i have to get up to lvl 9 once the building is lvls 6

[vivid cipher]

It sounds like they are all level 1. And he can’t upgrade them. Very strange.

[broken roost]

anyone found a fix to reappearing plants network error?

[vivid cipher]

Is it the same old plant or is it a new plant spawning?

[broken roost]

clear plant to make room, move building to that space, game logs out, new plant appears

but i mean this has been going for months

you HAVE to be aware of this bug

[vivid cipher]

I suspect that you have a bunch of plants backed up that are supposed to grow immediately after you remove the last one.

Possibly try to keep removing plants. Don’t stop until there are no more plants.

I don’t know for sure though.

[broken roost]

i've seen people talk about it here tens of times

[vivid cipher]

Seeking clarity that’s all.

The crash is obviously an issue. But the plants are intended to spawn.

As if the expected gameplay is to keep and maintain a little plant garden

If it’s consistently a friction point for players then perhaps game design will look at it. But with plant spawning being tied to the yet to be implemented podarium and mutation system I doubt anything will be changed with the spawn system until after the full features are added.

[thorny crater]

weird

[sharp jolt]

Wait, they did that on purpose? If so lol

[vivid cipher]

I mean mutated plants will give you fuel I think.

So… yeah. It’s not a long term negative. But I get that it’s messy at the moment.

[lethal elbow]

Hi, what is the difference to buy a land on the illuvidex and tokentrove?

[radiant sky]

they should grant dye's 🙂

[radiant sky]

fees

[lethal elbow]

Ah, that is why on the illuvidex are just a little bit cheaper, thanks

[verbal igloo]

they should give both resources and dyes 🙂

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-woah-andy-dwyer-chris-pratt-gif-14973712

[radiant sky]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1290736426861727844

when you have some spare time... 🙃

[verbal igloo]

just to make it clear, not sure if it can give fuel, but it should award elements besides dyes

[radiant sky]

time for a big element sink for endgame 🙂

[mortal mural]

time for training grounds

[radiant sky]

i guess all the time spend besides ironing out bugs is for podarium and MC's.
But maybe we soon see a GDD about training grounds? 👀

[lethal elbow]

But if the game is on immutable X why on the illuviDex asks for eth on zkEVM?

[mortal bough]

I have the same issue. Try to build a path after clearing the plant, receive a network error, plot reloads with a new plant and my path is gone.

[broken roost]

Yeah it's been an issue for months now

[radiant sky]

what do you mean exactly?
Illuvium is nothing on zkEVM and i never get asked to do something with it when interacting with illuvium...

[radiant sky]

seems like you have your "plant-buffer-storage" full of plants which instant spawn as soon as there is space for it, because they had no place to grow.
Idk if it is a bug or a feature tbh 😄
You can clear all plants, reload plot and repeat until that storage is empty and no mor plants spawn.

[lethal elbow]

Ah, now I understood, I am connected on Illuvium with passport and my eth is in metamask. So I almost send eth to passport zkEVM instead passport immutable X. Maybe is better log in with metamask on illuvium but I don't know is is possible and if will read the things on immutable X. The passport when linked metamask only showed the nfts from immutable X

[lethal elbow]

I see it is possible to connect with metamask, and I believe that if I buy a land the passport that is connected with metamask will read it and I will not need to send it to passport, right?

[radiant sky]

yea, if you buy a land and it is on your metamask, you can link that metamask in your passport settings as 2nd wallet with read access only and play your land on whatever device you like 🙂

[lethal elbow]

thank you 😀

[mortal bough]

That makes sense, plot is near optimum at this point so not needing plants to provide resources, so the weeds have been piling up. 😂

[thorn whale]

Do you need to purchase a land to start playing zero?

[mortal bough]

No there is F2P, but no monetary value is associated with the land or anything it produces.

[radiant sky]

haha... i guess we all know that feeling 😄

but the respawning stage 1 plants are at least harvested fast.

[wicked horizon]

Has there been any feedback on the passive generation of fuels? Nuking them seems to have had a substantially negative affect on land ownership?

Or maybe plants start spawning fuel instead of resources once you’re maxed your plot as the resources hold far less value at that point?

[open stratus]

It was really just to stave off the lack of demand for fuel, all it did was cheese everyone off and delay the process for a few weeks. AFAIK nothing has been said to rework the fuel amounts, only to give fuel more utility

[mortal mural]

All I know is I’m maxing all element extractor even though I don’t need them lol

[mortal bough]

It would be nice to increase the fuel production to what it was pre-nerf.

[radiant sky]

AT some point there will be Element sinks ingame... Better sooner than later, so it doesn't feel Like Elements are just being wasted when you have nothing to build anymore

[mortal bough]

The goal was to catch the falling knife (fuel price), it did not seem to work. So yeah, I would like back what is mine

[radiant sky]

Likely won't happen until there is a significant stable increase on the demand side

[vivid cipher]

It has been said that the fuel production at zero launch was boosted to help reduce the time it took to get the plots up and running.

[radiant sky]

Those were nice Times to play i heared 🙃

[mortal bough]

Ive heard that reference before, but no documentation of such has been provided. Seems like an easy answer to subdue the concern. Can you provide some documentation of this, has to be documented somewhere.

[vivid cipher]

Hangon. Let me write some documentation and share it.

https://tenor.com/view/im-kidding-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-joking-gif-25925069

I don’t have anything like that. I’ve never looked through the production values on the dev side.

[mortal bough]

Yeah, so maybe lets just stick with the facts, fuel production was nerfed in an attempt to stop the fuel price from falling, it did not work. Fuel production should be restored and the company building the game needs to create more demand to bring the price of fuel up.

[vivid cipher]

Someone might have that historical data and the dev side conversations about deciding on things like that. But I don’t really.

I don’t think I’ll take the time to find it either. The reality is that in game production amounts have Always been intended to be varied through the use of multiple levers.

[mortal mural]

I ll just wait for team to cook something cool. It doesn’t need to be of utility to the rest of the economy. I can do with a mini game or something to interact with other zero players.

I actually like playing zero knowing cool things are still coming

Illuvials collection is slowly growing in me though. The more I watch others play overworld I wanna play too.

Which is a problema since I don’t have time for that

[vivid cipher]

Illuvihub did produce this tool that tracks fuel prices over time.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1nQtyjnkcQBtWkkiJxQLx5saXODA6NF8i8sPmsxbkLBE/htmlview?pli=1#

prices seem to have reached a rather stable range.

[radiant sky]

#📣〕announcements message

Jesse is right, it got buffed before it got nerfed

[mortal bough]

@radiant sky Thank you, but this does not say fuel production was increased

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-zero-patch-notes-1-0-3

[timber sapphire]

yeah they are probably gonna start working on that in half a year. and implemented in a year at this pace

hope they increase the zero team soon

[grand silo]

personally dont have a clue but does anyone have any ideas on how a leaderboard could work for Zero?

[radiant sky]

read the patch notes ser.
Passive and active fuel generation of converter were buffed.

[radiant sky]

sounds reasonable.

There was always the plan to impelement element sinks for lategame.

[timber sapphire]

hope we get better timelines for when such a thing will be implemented

[radiant sky]

besides, adding new stuff where landowners might need to rebuild their base to some extent to profit from it shouldn't be called a rug 😄

[timber sapphire]

why would there be a leaderboard?

[radiant sky]

idk... when did timelines actually help 😄
were more counter productive imo.
if they are too long people argue they should it more prioritize, if they too short the feature gona be delayed.

[mortal bough]

@radiant sky @vivid cipher Can we stop saying things that are not true now in response the the fuel production? Fuel production was nerfed by 4x and that is a fact (technically theft). It was not buffed or increased at launch.

Land owners are justified in seeking recourse.

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1288646794292756590

[timber sapphire]

they should just give realistic timelines. idc if it takes a bit longer, im here for the long run. but the lack of communication is not a good thing. gladly they are improving that tho

[radiant sky]

theft is a big word 😅

[timber sapphire]

he was talking about the converters, not extractors

[mortal bough]

I try not to sugar coat things and just call it how I see it

[radiant sky]

yea i agree, communication has for sure space to improve.
Rumors say ICC tries to put a finger on that. 🤞