🎮〕illuvium-zero

[uneven pulsar]

yes the 1st - some region was banned

also ppl who minted lands for 20 eth+ and sell 3eth never come back)

[atomic zealot]

I'll be honest, I'm glad I sold my land

[foggy sage]

so does that you mean u swipe your card every time u want to play?

[atomic zealot]

Overworld?

[foggy sage]

yea

[atomic zealot]

When I do play, basically that or from sales of items (I'm still in red) lol

I def think dumping land and using eth to play overworld maybe better

[mortal mortar]

can u guys start dumping fuel or sth? its too expesive to play..

[foggy sage]

flip lands and take the eth to play sounds faster as well

[knotty idol]

prices are going down overtime

[mortal mortar]

yea but stll... dont wanna w8 few months until its playable

[atomic zealot]

ROI is worse... basically you can buy fuel cheaper than what you paid for land imo

[uneven pulsar]

i think for t4 10 month good ROI but now i unersdtand it can be years

[foggy sage]

looking at like 5 years min according to my toliet paper math,

[uneven pulsar]

t4?)

[foggy sage]

yup

basically then take that and play overworld

[uneven pulsar]

but guys one moment we have limit with storage))

i think will be time when we will burn our resouces)

but i think soon will be traine ulluviums update items

[small sundial]

Don't worry, there is a whole team working on the project and with people who work in finance. They have everything planned out. The capture ration decreases. We will have to spend more fuel to recover the Illuviaux and the prices will rebalance

[atomic zealot]

That's what I did...

The problem is how much cash they burn each month...they need 9M a month or studio shuts down.... after 14 months we MAYBE big maybe generate enough rev to cover a single month of expenses

That's why I think overworld is safer and better ROI if there is any

[uneven pulsar]

i hope but we want a little bit stability))

[foggy sage]

alot of pressure knowing if the studio fails thats it we all go to 0

[small sundial]

Let's give them time, it's only been 2 weeks since the game was released. It's normal to see the march moving forward at a crazy pace

[silk parrot]

My argument is the DAO is taking 95% while everyone is happy, playing and excited.

It quickly becomes people don't want to play if they can't make any money so the player base falls off quickly and then both the DAO and players are making nothing together.

Maybe the answer is in the middle but for the game and the players I would say a better ratio would be the DAO selling 1 fuel for every 20 players made. That is the way you keep your players, people buying illuvials, land etc... Again I think it would be healthier to take 5 or 10% of 50k for years while increasing players than to take 95% of 2k while decreasing players and values of everything.

I am sure the data will point the devs in the right direction I just hope they are proactive instead of reactive when they see it happening in real time.

[atomic zealot]

I think there's a bigger problem with the game, there no sight of any ROI and the team has said you'll make SOME of your money back not all. Anyway I'm gonna play overworld when I can and it's a safer bet that way

Yup, that's why IMO overworld is safer than zero

[silk parrot]

The other part of the problem, besides the DAO taking way too much from players in my opinion, is the lack of sinks.

There should be sinks for everything in game, illuvials, resources, equipment etc.... maybe even ones where you have to destroy way too much stuff for a minimal gain ( players love to max or gain an advantage even if it is ,01% better )

ok enough babbling from me... off to enjoy the game. Wishing luck to the devs they get everything right because I love the game and how the land, overworld and arena all intertwine.

The one thing I think the devs did get very right is how the games intertwine and realizing it has made me appreciate illuvium as a whole 10x more.

I started playing zero and first thought this is a little boring and not deep enough. I played Overworld and thought this is great but how many times can I do this over and over? I played Arena ( usually not my style ) and thought ohh this is actually kind of fun and there is so much to do to get a little better.

When I realized that last part, suddenly Zero took on another level of desirability for me to get my lands up for fuel to do t1 or better runs. Suddenly Overworld became a little more fun trying to get those illuvials that would give me that slight edge in Arena...

That is when I got really excited for the future because there is so much room to improve everything. It is also when I really started to hope the devs got it right because this is the only crypto game I could see me playing for years.

That is also part of my plan, plenty of time to enjoy the game exactly as is while the prices come down and the devs can start to change what is needed. During this time I will grind higher with the game in the current state ( very fun ) while hoping the problems we see developing get addressed asap instead of after the fact 🙂

[burnt viper]

Seems to me some Zero players who never earned before and are now earning. Demanding things that could risk others games and Illivum😂😂

Sell the fuels, price the fuel cheaper, LET more players come in and continue playing

Land owners should just sacrifice their desire for quick money so that users are firstly acquired and the game stays alive

Companies go in debt for years to acquire long term users, they don't get greedy within a month or two, to get short term profits

[sage bough]

As a T1 player I just wanted to say - ya'll are selling fuel?!?

[burnt viper]

I bet there are players who are waiting for cheaper price and also zero land owners waiting for more utilities and long term vision. So your correct.

[hazy tartan]

Price could always lower, could also increase in the same breathe. Bought a t1 with a crypton rift two days ago as my first because I figure even at cheaper it’s worth it for me to get started now so I can get production started, any fresh land that would be bought brings along a steep time curve to any significant fuel let alone returns

[silk parrot]

Anyone selling any of that good stuff? 🙂

[true rampart]

nah im just maxing out land first

sold 0 fuel

[rain breach]

I can't even produce fuel fast enough to upgrade my buildings. No way I have fuel to sell...

[burnt viper]

Yeah, I found also with this experience. You can easily powerlevel lands and be ready for any changes made in the future. I'm maxing my plots and will wait for the future strategies

I imagine they will make it difficult to max level (than it is already now) in the future.

[small sundial]

You know that it takes around 3 months to optimize a T1

[silk parrot]

very steep, I bought a t1 land with crypton on it... it was built up very nice, but I reset it when they had the bug with bought lands not working.

Think it is fixed now, either way I should have waited for the fix... it takes quite a few days to get going but then it gets better after you get some fuels coming in.

Edit - I bought the land, even knowing land prices would probably drop before the devs could make any economy tweaks, because I am enjoying the game. I wanted to start building etc.. eventually paying for my own t1 runs. For me, the prices of fuel will not matter when my land gets to that point since I will be using all my fuel for myself anyways.

[hazy tartan]

This is the way imo, changes made will rarely hurt someone who has maxed their plot, add on the added value of a developed lot vs fresh and you can offset most of what would “drop” in price

[arctic flower]

Yeah, but at least let us to use our small amount of fuel for the Overworld game. I mean to craft some shards, to travel and so on..

[hazy tartan]

I think the value in land is developing it, the start is a bit slow but definitely speeds up once you get it right, I played clash for years so I’m actually loving the building and planning aspect a bunch. I imagine there will be future players who can’t be bothered with this aspect of the game and will pay a premium for fully developed land they don’t have to touch

[burnt viper]

Heheh, I'm embarrassed that my new leveled up (level 79) plot is nearly matching my level 110 plot lmao 🤣

Like i said, drop the price down to the lower guard rails and drop it further down and let players play

The supply and demand will be discovered eventually, and overtime demand will increase

[timid sorrel]

"Market Price" of Solon is 0.0038 not 0.0065 like it says on the Fuel Exchange...why is this not updated as the floor for each fuel changes?

[foggy sage]

lol T1 player selling fuel might as well be a free to play plot hahhahha

[uneven pulsar]

))

[timid sorrel]

Anyone that hasnt already tried selling Solon and other fuel, is going to be driven mad trying to sell it....having to CANCEL and REDO sell orders over and over again until you hit a price where it will actually sell.

This is TERRIBLE user experience.

[minor pilot]

Game is not even 2 weeks old 🙂 give things a chance

[foggy sage]

u dont have cancel u can update the order

[timid sorrel]

Bro you are way too high, list for the lowest allowed price otherwise it will NEVER sell.

0.0038

I will save you the frustration.

[foggy sage]

brother if i could i would pay some to take it

[timid sorrel]

you are TOO HIGH. 0.0038 is the price for Solon where itll sell

[minor pilot]

create another account and keep buying fuel 🙂

[timid sorrel]

you need to come down 10 units

[foggy sage]

i got a hot tip solon about to pump

crypton to 0

[timid sorrel]

lol ok, good luck, your order will never fill

[burnt viper]

Where can i join this Fuel Guild with Alpha Signals hahaha

Has the big cartels of T4, T3 joined together lmao

[foggy sage]

its in my paid Solon Kings Discord we are gonna corner the market

we need to other wise we will all kill each other alot blood on the streets right now we need a leader

https://tenor.com/view/pablo-vibes-gif-27108667

[burnt viper]

That's the concern for the Team, the DAO and Council to consider, It's nice outsourcing such issues to people who do it for ourselves

Maybe the DAO shouldn't be allocating money for Marketing and Paying Influencers (this early)

[barren ore]

where can i get some calls options for this

[uneven pulsar]

we need a game function to destroy enemies power station) and will be high price

[foggy sage]

that would be cool land owners could fall into 3 gangs SolonKings CryptonCunts the HyperionLadyboys

the next game should be a GTA style game were u run around destroying other peoples lands

[uneven pulsar]

))

[burnt viper]

what would someone who has all of three types be called lmao?

a Zero Hoe?

[foggy sage]

they would be the outcast know has the ZeroHoe, zero loyalty to any of the 3 of kingdoms

https://tenor.com/view/exodus-moses-gif-18019076

imagine riding into a mega city with SolonKings at your back all on top of Rhampheys burning the other cities down to the ground

[uneven pulsar]

do y have 2 t4?

[foggy sage]

i think so

[timid sorrel]

bummer

lol

[tall canopy]

Is there a graph of how many bio data can be found at each level of a scanner?

[uneven pulsar]

i think you need to buy my t4 and will be king of 3 of kingdoms

[foggy sage]

3K sir

[timid sorrel]

in 69 years youll get your $ back on 1 of those T4 lands...

[uneven pulsar]

y made mistake in 4k)

[timid sorrel]

keep listing that Solon for prices it will not sell and it might take 420 years...

give or take 69 years...

[foggy sage]

the hell u talking about boy

[uneven pulsar]

you are rich

[timid sorrel]

lol there you go, you lowered it! i am proud of you. wow .0036 for Solon the floor dropped again

[foggy sage]

the bottom is 0 for fuel yall be ready season 2 stage 3 run will pay you money to play lol

[foggy sage]

0 reason for solon in the game outside of a big craft that 0% of the player base will ever get to

solon is the forgotten child in this game

that solon scanner thing is a waste of time and is not worth it

[rain breach]

Why I'm seeing these prices?
Shouldn't they be lower if people are selling it lower than this?

[foggy sage]

needs to be a "Solon Boosted" run where ur drone ability has a 25% reduction gun ability 25% reduction show all harvest and mine nodes, show mega nodes, show stats on illuvial on the map etc

[burnt viper]

I was trying to elaborate, that maybe once fuel prices is very cheap for average player, it might be better to start marketing and influencers too.

[timid sorrel]

Yes 100% they should change! Those numbers are wrong, they need to fix it...

You cannot sell for those prices.

[grizzled remnant]

Can we have an explaination about why silv2 don't apply the same rules as ETH ?. "Same value than ILV" my **

silv2 purchases are disabled from the real free market prices ?

[strange pivot]

What about fuel crates? It says on the fuel crates for example 15USD worth of fuel. if people are selling for 0.004USD per fuel, if I claim crate, I get fuel for that price, not for 0.0063USD right? Which means in total 3750 (15/0.004) fuel and not 2380 (15/0.0063)?

[grizzled remnant]

Prices are 0.065 indicated
Real prices sell offers are 0.04.
When buying with ETH we got bonuses that will ties your value from what is in sell.
When buying with silv2 we got the "Fake Illuvium price 50% more expensive to buy with and no bonuses from the real market price".
Is that a way to burn money and the silv2 to your community members ?,
I'm angry about what i'm seeing with this fuel exchange

[grizzled remnant]

@hearty cradle would love to know if council members are aware and that is "normal"

i think that fuel that come from silv2 is 100% providing by DAO and landholder get *** for their 5% on this part. that's why it seems more complicated to have that kind of "free market".. but seeing this for me is a joke.

[timid sorrel]

no you just get the set amount of fuel in the crate

current pricing doesnt matter

Exactly. The way it is currently setup is a complete joke.

[strange pivot]

What do you mean?

[timid sorrel]

"Market Price" - do the people on the ILV team even know what Market Price means?

[grizzled remnant]

no you get a set amount depending of the ffuel price. as the crate contain "$". but i think its defined from the "custom illuvium pricing 50% mmore expensive as for the silv2 than the real free market.

[timid sorrel]

there is a set amount in each crate, current fuel price has no bearing on what youll get from the crate when you open it.

[grizzled remnant]

no there isn't a set amount in the crate. the amount vary depending on the value of fuel

[timid sorrel]

no it doesnt, T3 lands for example get a crate with a little over 5000 fuel in each crate

it doesnt matter if the "market price" is 0.00001 or 0.0063

itll have 5000 of each fuel type in it

[strange pivot]

No the quantity fuel u get has to vary depending on the fuel price, it has to, how else can it be worth 15 USD if the quantity fuel u get is the same but price of fuel decreases?

[grizzled remnant]

didn't try since but it should vary. otherwise it shouldn't be a "15$" worth of crate

[broken roost]

should i be able to see the 15 alpha blueprints here if i have them in imx passport wallet?

hmm, then whats stopping my research to find the same bp over and over again?

[uneven pulsar]

Interesting

250 vs 175)?

[foggy sage]

whats your efficiceny at ?

[uneven pulsar]

oh 100

[broken roost]

@hearty cradle sorry for the ping. Would you know if there is any plan in changing how blueprints work? As for right now it only costs solon (so money) to craft skins. Hence anyone with one blueprint can mint infinite skins as long as its profitable (so a little over the money you need to craft them). Might aswell have 1 guy have 1 of each blueprint at this point

[foggy sage]

thats why get that to 140% and u will like the outcome better and 150 if your man

[uneven pulsar]

that better

[broken roost]

thats.. crap. I thought holding to blueprints would be rewarded by being able to increasingly find better ones

thanks for the answer

[foggy sage]

now your a man

[broken roost]

how is it guaranteed? you still need to research wait 24hs and see if you even get one

[quartz salmon]

So I have found multiple biodata for the same illuvial and @last falcon mentioned that this is a bug and that you should only be able to find biodata once for each illuvial. So I assume you can research and find multiple blueprints (i.e. armor and drone) for each biodata.

[keen ruin]

It seems that there is a bug on the IlluviDex website, looks like with (floor) T3 plots.

Once they bought by someone the price will stay the same but you cannot checkout and buy the plot again, it seems like they are still listed.

[broken roost]

i said ''be able to find better ones''

[broken roost]

yes we already got 3 blueprints for each biodata on alpha

not the same

[quartz salmon]

I agree we need some transparency on what is going on with the fuel pricing. It is a black box. I don't like on the buy side that we don't know what the bonus will be or even if there is one until you actually buy. The sell side is a mystery.

[broken roost]

you said we would be guaranteed one. Im saying you CAN find one

its not about the chances. Say you own stage 1 archie blueprint, then you are able to find stage 2. Otherwise you just won't, nothing to do with chances and %

[hearty cradle]

ill ask the team about this.
its supposed to burn illuvials right?

[spring jetty]

i wish there is a chart of how much fuel are being sold everyday

at what price etc

[broken roost]

im not sure what its supposed to do but this way they are utterly useless xD

thanks.

[flat steeple]

T1 fuel hurts my soul

[foggy sage]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hug-baller-energy-bbq-bigballerenergy-gif-26753691

[hearty cradle]

yea

[thorny crater]

im just getting to nexus 6 lolz

[flat steeple]

Nexus 7 is going hurt. 80 Hyperion

[foggy sage]

what does a stage 6 150% efficiceny t2 fuel extractor produce?

[dry otter]

I don't think that anybody is at lvl6 already!?

[thorny crater]

exactly one i just build all those converters

[willow delta]

Any news on loading screen fixed?

I don’t even care if they reset my land as long as they can get it to work

[flat steeple]

Upgrading them to stage 2 fast I assume?

The fuel needed to upgrade storage sucks

[random siren]

6 eth worth of fuel each day for the past 4 days

[spiral ravine]

Hi Guys how many hours per day is necessary play? Because i see that every 2 minutes i have to claim carbon and hydrogen...i can't stay all day long to claim

[flat steeple]

Upgrading = longer claim periods

[rapid vault]

Is there a support section for land issues? I have a T1 with a Hyperion extractor that is stuck. I started the extract process 2 days ago and it’s made no progress.

[spiral ravine]

What do you mean with upgrading? The structures like nexus etc...?

[knotty idol]

did you check if its getting enough power?

[austere tendon]

got my first blueprint today - how does it work as I'm new to that side? you can scan once per 24 hours, then other buildings you can mint the drone skin/suit?

[flat steeple]

Anything that extracts a resource

[knotty idol]

when you get higher your claim times increase, so you dont have to manage as much throughout the day

[spiral ravine]

Ok thanks and in the beginning how many time per day is necessary?

[rapid vault]

Yep. Even built an extra power supply just in case and still nothing. Its overpowered now

[digital wasp]

why aren't daily missions scored? Extract Hyperion and extract Crypton were not counted for the daily missions (240+240 points)
07.08.2024

convert silicon and extract crypton were not counted for the daily missions (240+240 points)
06.08.2024

[rapid vault]

Well….now that I say that it’s making progress now. It seems the power UI isn’t accurate. It always showed enough power but now that I powered all the power supplies up It’s making progress now 🤷‍♂️

[thorny crater]

not me. I learned the hard way to not make them stage 2 so fast. task 20 other fuel instead of 10...wait to do that when you hvae to much fuel

[solar goblet]

I made Research Biodata on my land, but nothing has been updated on the site in the Daily Mission section? Does everyone have this problem or is it just me?

[flat steeple]

I meant more for the passive fuel. I kept 1 of each at stage 1 for the 10-9 fuel conversion

[thorny crater]

thats what i am doing now l too lol

[spiral ravine]

Guys how can i increase the power of the CONDENSER plant and Photodisintegration plant? I mean in which position they need to stay?

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-brain-gif-24918687

[digital wasp]

yes - something is wrong with the missions - with the daily ones in zero and with those from illuvidex. So far no answer from support (already reported 3 times)

[spring jetty]

are they all crypton lol, cos my fuel arent selling at all

[exotic breach]

Other fuels don't sell as well.

[foggy sage]

its because other fuel arent needed as much as crypton

solon has very little demand outside of big ticket items that 0% of the playerbase will ever craft

[spiral ravine]

Which fuels sell well?

[foggy sage]

Crypton>Hyperion>Solon

[flat steeple]

Crypton Lords for the win 🏆

[foggy sage]

if ur land doesnt produce crypton highly recomend u just sell it and get one that does

[spring jetty]

the team needs to work on balancing the game, like seriously

[foggy sage]

the other fuels are going to 0 asap

unless devs change that but that is gonna be so far down the line

[exotic breach]

None atm.

[spiral ravine]

My land is a tier 3 with 3 cripton sites

[spiral ravine]

ok thanks

[foggy sage]

https://tenor.com/view/got-game-of-thrones-kneel-down-bow-down-pay-respect-gif-15450588

[spiral ravine]

Is it good? ahah

[foggy sage]

its the best a T3 can get

can make some fat money with that compared to the other 2 lands

[spiral ravine]

is even better than a 4 or 5?

[foggy sage]

better then a 69

[spiral ravine]

why?

[foggy sage]

cause it is crypton rich my boy

[spiral ravine]

for the 3 sites?

[foggy sage]

yes sir

your T3 is gonna be worth more then basically most T4 at this rate

[flat steeple]

This hurts my ocd

[thorny crater]

im going blueprints.....i dont give a crap about fuel right now lol

[foggy sage]

XD then i wouldnt own a land cause it aint gonna look sexy if u want it all min maxed

[spiral ravine]

My god is not so easy to get that...organize the spaces and routes is hard for me

[thorny crater]

whasts hard for me is know which builds are which. Like i have to go by times to take of repeater and what not lol....or worse i miss a fuel/building and did not repstart the production process lol

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-leg-shooting-foot-epic-fail-gif-15187504

[spiral ravine]

how can i increase the power of the CONDENSER plant and Photodisintegration plant? I mean in which position they need to stay?

[foggy sage]

all are max efficiency except the green circle, that one was in a spot i found a few days later and was able to just get a free 153% converter with out effecting anything so i figured why not

working on my next T4 that i got monday should be nexus 9 by tonight

and also yes that has the 20% path bonus as well

and yes the path is touching all buildings that have a production/research function

[spiral ravine]

Ok but do i have to clear all plants and stones?

[pearl marten]

Solon is more of a 'late game' fuel... once rewards in arena and leviathan will be live people will need perfect stats illuvials, the best equipment and most of the weapons... so rest assured there will be plenty demand for Solon

Now people are mostly making runs to 'catch em all'

[cerulean veldt]

anybody notice these fuel bundles

[solar swallow]

Anyone know fix for "A network error occured!"?

Cant sell building so im pretty much blocked with any actions atm

[flat steeple]

Yeah, noticed them on the first day. Seems very pointless to me

[spiral ravine]

Is it important to make airdrop with nexus?

[flat steeple]

I’d say no tbh

[stoic rapids]

whats the market clearing price for selling crypton right now?

[spiral ravine]

Because in the main goals there is collect 10,000 carbon collect 10,000 hydrogen etc...

[flat steeple]

If only it was fuel instead

[spiral ravine]

I have got it only one bundle but i don't know why

[spiral ravine]

what do you mean?

[flat steeple]

That it would be great if it gave you each fuel, rather than resources. When you upgrade the Nexus the amount always stays at 1k

[spiral ravine]

you mena that the fuel i have from 130 dollars will be 1k dollars with nexus upgrading?

[flat steeple]

If you can’t produce each resource, I’d go for the airdrop to help yourself out a little

[foggy sage]

so worth

[spiral ravine]

But what is the aidrop? In which consist?

[shell rose]

Hi, do power station level impact efficiency, or only COUNT and LOCATION?

[flat steeple]

It just gives you 1 k of each resource. Carbon, silicon, hydrogen.

[real ice]

why can't sell buildings?

[spiral ravine]

So i do it only when i don't produce it anumore

Is there also the risk that i can't produce it? Is weird to be honest

[flat steeple]

Whenever you want, it just takes 24 hours

It’s free

[spiral ravine]

But for do that i lose some resources

[flat steeple]

No it’s free

[spiral ravine]

But is this good to do to enhance the plot?

[flat steeple]

That’s for you to decide

[spiral ravine]

It's in the main goals like is a thing forced to do i don't know

[karmic crag]

I think this is a common error, i have it too, i think we're just waiting for an update to fix it

[foggy sage]

im still a firm believer in the "Solon Boosted" Runs, make it 50% of the crypton required to run the respective stage. and give something along the lines of lower drone/gun ability CD see the stats of the illuvials in the map filter ore and consumbles so that that you can see exactly what you want. increased stamina maybe increased energy per run increased radar range

[karmic crag]

only count and location, but they need power to opperate, just not increase efficiency

Can anyone explain how gas sale works to me? I have many pending sales that arent' being picked up. is there a marketplace where players buy from set offers, or are those listings just pulled from cheapest price from a pool going to next available purchaser?

[mossy sorrel]

cheapest go first... free market, if you're fuel isn't selling, the price is probably set too high under current conditions

[thorny crater]

oh does anyone have a break down of what each building upgrade needs?

it sucks i can not check when the budiling is active producing and i did not write everything down. SO i have to guess if i have enought or now

[foggy sage]

there is already a sink

its called the market place

sink your solon get pennies in return

[teal void]

is anyone selling fuels atm i didnt sell for 2 days also i set far below the market price

[foggy sage]

market has changed cancel the order and set ur pirce accordingly fuel is now .000000000000000001

[little moon]

@whole spear so when we max out at level 201, we don't get the free credits anymore for leveling up beyond 201?

[stoic rapids]

I mean what we need is a large playerbase in arena and overworld who are putting money in because they find the game fun

thats the only way the illuvium economy works

[thorny crater]

ok went back though old chats and non one knows lol

going to reset my free plot and figure it out there

[foggy sage]

jesus christ those number are sad lol 122 viewers oh fuck

[stoic rapids]

122 twitch viewers 2 weeks after launch? we need a massive marketing push

[thorny crater]

exactly none will pay if they don't enjoy the free version first.

[stoic rapids]

it's DOABLE, autochess is a popular genre

[thorny crater]

but 80-99% oif the argument here is about ROI return and hardly any about consumer experience.

[stoic rapids]

I hope they're able to market to people who actually put money into games they like, and not people viewing it as a low-wage online job. That's what crashed the axie economy

[thorny crater]

thats what that game was axie. i was curious what happened to it

[knotty idol]

they could also change the 95/5 ratio as well if demand is low. for instance the could do 90/10 and then fuel demand from the zero side would essentially double (i assume this is works)

[stoic rapids]

there's no point in pressuring devs to give us landowners more % from fuel sales if on balance arena + overworld are losing more money than they're bringing in. Fuel would go to $0

[foggy sage]

trust me fuel is already going to 0 fuel sellers trying to extract as much as they can then move on to Axi3D

[stoic rapids]

well people are going to sell all their fuel no matter what once they've maxed their plot

the basic question is can illuvium get some combination of PAYING arena + overworld customers from 1) collectors, 2) highly competitive players, 3) casual players who want to speed up progression

if people are grinding overworld only to resell everything they make, they're actually a net drain on the DAO/developers. DAO could be selling that stuff to players themselves and spending the profits on marketing / improving game

[unborn osprey]

Are there no gold rewards after level 175?

[stoic rapids]

the average return on a run in overworld has to be negative in terms of resale value for the economy to work - it has to function more like a very involved gacha spin

[uneven pulsar]

Its web3 everybody sells everytjing

somebody bought t4 120eth, somebody sells resourses

[analog basin]

I still haven't sold any fuel whatsoever. If I have to keep dropping the price in an attempt secure a sale from my T3 then why do I still have to pay the full price to get the fuel into Overworld? This means landowners are losing on every fuel sale [Even if I could complete one] if they want to use in Overworld. I know we are still early days but I am already getting a not good feeling about this. Spent over $8000 on 3 plots of land and zilch ROI so far. WTF is going on here?

[oak ruin]

What does the podarium actually do, other than increasing annoying plants spawn rate???

[analog basin]

Increasing annoying plants spawn rate that's it lol

[stoic rapids]

the demand for fuel from overworld is <<< supply being produced from lands x 20

but the DAO taking 95% isn't the problem, the problem is there aren't enough players

[tribal zealot]

yee they should of had something in place to allow us to use our fuel on launch

[analog basin]

I get that, the 5% thing, so that's it then? Yes not enough players, this is the source of the bad vibe I'm feeling.

[stoic rapids]

it all comes down to how many people want to collect illuvials, either just to own them or to battle them in arena

we know people are into that core concept from pokemon etc

if there's high demand for illuvials, then there will be high demand for overworld to produce them, which will cause high demand for fuel

[analog basin]

100%

[tribal zealot]

forcing us to sell and buy back is silly

[analog basin]

At a loss too

[tribal zealot]

exactly

[analog basin]

I'm a landowner with 3 plots but I'm not going to be playing Overworld if I have to use my own fuel at a loss. Not going to happen.

[knotty idol]

it is quite silly

[stoic rapids]

devs said very recently that allowing landowners to port fuel to overworld is a high priority, Id expect to see it soon

[pearl marten]

Well we had fuel crates especially for that

[tribal zealot]

that was a bonus. Im talking about the mechanics

[pearl marten]

It's almost done
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[pearl marten]

Yeah there was a lot that could've been done - just have a bit of patience until they smooth things out.
When did you ever see the simultaneous launch of 3 games being flawless?

[unborn osprey]

Any idea at what level do gold rewards from level up stop?

[unreal heath]

can you tell me how can i rent some plots?

[pearl marten]

Wdym?

[stoic rapids]

fuel is headed to zero very soon

[pearl marten]

@south mural what were your expectations?

[stoic rapids]

because supply is constant (technically, growing for now until lands max out) and much higher than current demand

[karmic crag]

At higher levels of nexus, plants produce a pretty solid resource max. I think some of the plants i've harvested are like 1.5m resources. might end up being a good play for T1/T2s that are short on resource generation. Just hypothicising, and not sure what actually increases harvest value of plants, but noticed that as my plot advanced, the take on plants grew significantly.

[stoic rapids]

by emphasizing airdrops, they're marketing to the wrong customer base

[analog basin]

At least $1 a day ROI on $8000 investment maybe?

[foggy sage]

jesus 1$ lol why so high

was expecting maybe .25

[analog basin]

Funny Bunny

[pearl marten]

Illuvium is not designed (and was never the case) to be a cash grab(farm and dump) in the 1st week so you can move to the next web3 project to do the same.

I've spent/played/sold and bought and still am.. yeah the demand is not like in the first day but have patience. Arena rewards will be live .. Gauntlet and Leviathan will come out and be more polished .. marketing will kick in

[stoic rapids]

we have to get the sort of people who buy pokemon games or spin genshin impact gacha wheels

[pearl marten]

ROI should be around 2years... so you will get there no worries

[analog basin]

I do hope you are correct. Not a good first impression though have to admit.

I have been in several WEB3 fails. I know the vibe and this worries me.

[stoic rapids]

we need illuvium to be on the front page of the epic game store

[foggy sage]

agree first week in and its already like is this game DOA where are the Esports tournys and arena battles

[stoic rapids]

but maybe the devs are still trying to polish gameplay a bit before they do a big marketing push

[foggy sage]

ILV "Scavage for eth" lol some of us feeling that

[pearl marten]

Yes i agree ... things could have been better (and i'm here for 3.5 years now) ... mistakes have been made
BUT ... we do have 3 awesome games (remember they're still in BETA okay? they aren't finalised) ... Overworld is years ahead in quality to almost everything there is in the web3 space but have patience - team is working at full speed to polish and solve things

[analog basin]

Do you have more money than you should have then maybe lol

[karmic crag]

I was hoping this too, get live balanced, then push marketing, but marketing didn't hit my expectations in a hype run

[analog basin]

Writing off your T1s already.

What $700 worth Poooof and its gone..... guessing at what they cost you.

[tribal zealot]

Yee I would say most of the landholders have lots of patience. I have no doubt they will eventually include it but the concern needs to be discussed.

[analog basin]

Well I'm not happy doing the same with my 2x T2s and my T3.

[karmic crag]

I think the biggest miss for me is linear progression breakthrough points in OW gameplay. there is no fun element to work for to gain progress breaks. you can just buy a few cheap stage 2/3 Illuvials to have a decent team and then hunt for the super rare stuff. The super rare stuff is great motivation, but i wanted to see more progress breakthroughs (like a pokemon trainer that you have to beat to proceed to the next zone)

OW just seems to sprawling and aimless, I need a reason to explore and more of a goal to build a team of illuvials to overcome

[pearl marten]

These will come too. DOA def not - as i said but maybe i should quote Aaron here
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[karmic crag]

I love the art and environment, so not trying to shoot down everything they did, but still waiting to feel motivated

[pearl marten]

Yeah i totally agree and no one is stopping us - i myself have been angry a few times and expressed my disappointment around here
All good as long as we keep our heads and try to be polite

[karmic crag]

Land was always a long term play on ILV value

There was no other play with land that I saw

[stoic rapids]

yeah talking about land ROI mostly misses the point. devs will definitely take care of landowners if game does well, if game does poorly we lose everything

[thorny crater]

if they can find that consumer experience grind aspect, like palword, hell divers 2, wow, etc. where people dont mind the grind then we are in business. but its has to be on the free version, that shows what people are m,issing out on from the paid versions. IMO

[rapid tartan]

land owners cannot sell fuel yet, I've also been trying for days, and at a range of different prices, including the exact market price, it appears its not hooked up fully

[stoic rapids]

personally I'd like to see them do some big prize pool arena tournaments to get the word out

[little moon]

So first land is free but i have to buy the rest? €250 for a land is this right?

[analog basin]

While I agree in principle and yes that is very true people mostly don't care about the project, draining it dry is the priority. Already been in a few with this mentality and lost a boat load of crypto which on hindsight I should have just left in Bitcoin. However after saying that I did expect a little more income return on Zero than $zero. I'll wait and see what happens and I hope Aaron is correct.

[stoic rapids]

well the question is what happens at fuel = $0

[pearl marten]

And remember - they will still have to sell 80.000 plots along the way - they have to make land a good asset
And look what Kieran mentioned he would like to see with land so there's a lot of potential
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[stoic rapids]

if people are like "oh hey this is a fun game, and it's effectively free!" and tell their friends, fuel and everything else bounces back

[dry otter]

We are only at the beginning!

[stoic rapids]

if the playerbase can't grow at $0 fuel it's over

[pearl marten]

I feel you and yeah we have to have faith in the team!

[flat steeple]

Anyone figure out how to use their blueprints?

[stoic rapids]

the problem is nobody is going to buy the 2nd tranche of land if the first batch lost 90% of its value

[pearl marten]

They're not live yet (afaik) ... i mean some of the alpha BPs can be used but not by all - i'm in the same boat

[analog basin]

That just cant happen. They can't do that and dilute the OG landowners. That would be game over for sure if they did that.

[tribal zealot]

didnt they say they wont proceed to sale land atleast 2 years?

[pearl marten]

Yep

[tribal zealot]

i heard it in one of their ama

[analog basin]

Well anything else would be a suicide move.

[tribal zealot]

yea for sure

[stoic rapids]

if arena/overworld don't on balance make money, land goes to 0. doesn't matter whether DAO exploits us by printing more land or not

[analog basin]

Suicide then.

[stoic rapids]

well I'm still hopeful they can attract lots of arena/overworld players

fuel will bounce back if the arena/overworld playerbase grows fast

[analog basin]

I have been waiting since early 2022 have a load staked too which is hurting also. Maybe my expectations where too high but I had a lot of faith in this time she would be different. Married 3 times so maybe I'm not very good at judging stuff lol

[stoic rapids]

I think if any web3 game is going to succeed it'll be illuvium

[analog basin]

Agree if this fails the whole concept doesn't work

[tribal zealot]

they have enough runway to make their next game... and supposedly it will require fuel too

[karmic crag]

I think this is all supply and demand driven. They will hold lands until the demand for gas needs more land to produce it. If gas goes off, my guess is they make and exception and sell sooner (but in that case all the OG land owners are already winning in value ROI). This is probably unlikely, so they'll hold as long as they need to to get gas to sell a good rate. A 50% dilution of gas pricing is the result of 2nd sale and they won't do that until they feel like the game is too expensive and gas prices need to be driven down by increasing supply generated by land holders

[stoic rapids]

doesn't necessarily cut prices by 50%

supply is fixed, doubling it could cause much more or much less price decline

[pearl marten]

Exactly

[karmic crag]

maybe, but it quite literally doubles supply of gas if you have 2x plots creating it

[stoic rapids]

but agree in principle

[karmic crag]

We are pretty secure in the selling of more land, that is not a threat at all since it just wont' happen until the game and land owners are genrating a resonable ROI

The risk is completely related to OW being a flop since that is where gas is spent

[stoic rapids]

exactly

meanwhile, in #🎮〕illuvium-overworld

if

Im not disagreeing with you

[balmy tinsel]

When will we be able to transfer fuel to our land for use in OW ? For season 1 or next season ?

[stoic rapids]

I'm hopeful that if they market outside the web3 space, they can get people willing to spend money on arena/overworld

[stoic rapids]

if they really need money to keep the lights on, they can reduce DAO's take from 19/20 to 9/10 and sell a second set of lands without affecting fuel price

[karmic crag]

I think land is actually at about 65% of overall capacity. The T4s will generate the lionshare of gas, and T4s are almost maxed. I'm playing mine fairly casually and i'm working on final upgrade of mines

[stoic rapids]

same, that sounds about right

my solon sold! going to buy an enormous ice cream with my $10

thanks web3

[karmic crag]

I think T3s are pretty close too, and T1s will never generate much fuel, numbers just arent' great on T1s, I thinkt he switch to fuel cost for scanning nerfed the best play for T1s (blueprints). I think they will even struggle to break even at scanning costs

With the new metrics (which i actually really like because I didn't like converters outproducing mines in the beta). we will see T4s and T3s continue to increase production to +20% using converters, but as soon as mines are done, i think their capacity is pretty close to 80%

[foggy sage]

T1 selling 50 solon a week for 3 cents

[karmic crag]

id prevoiously thought t1s might be great for posting up about 10 scanners, but now that would cost 300 units of gas (at level 1 scanners) which is not going to be anywhere close. I'm guessing a t1 level 6 mine generates something like 50-100 units of gas/day? and then converters gain you maybe another 100 per day? I think a t1 maxes around 200-300 units of gas per day and at higher scanner levels will eat about 5 scanners worth of gas

[foggy sage]

gonna retain alot of land lowners XD

[hazy galleon]

My t4 is now max nexus. The airdrop from the nexus still only produces 4k of each element which is kinda silly

[radiant sky]

The airdrop was just implemented if someone messes up AT the very beginning, so he doesn't get stuck

[karmic crag]

i think the point of airdrop is to bail you out so you don't get stuck without a converter, i agree, it could be meaningful, but I dont' think it needs to be more than that to act as a bail out

[pearl marten]

Yeah T1s will struggle to maintain more than 1-2 scanners running (max at lvl 1-2 -> lvl 3 upgrade costs 400 fuel)
Also they (and not only T1s) will struggle because of storage space - issue i've raised here with the team
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

I mean 1 Data Bank cost 200 solon to build and you have space for only 5 Biodata/Blueprints .. so with 1-2 scanners running you will basically need a data bank at 2 days or so which isn't sustainable

[hazy galleon]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[pastel crater]

does any of the Science buildings will do somethink in F2p plots ?

[karmic crag]

yeah, i agree. I'm playing a t3 and a t4, so i don't mind the tilt towards them, but requiring gas for buildings in such high quantities, especially science, definitely nerfs t1s. T2s are still a solid play for science though, i think they generate enough to sustain science momentum

but I think a t1, even in a balanced gas price world, is choosing between $2/day in gas sale or running 2-3 scanners/day

[radiant sky]

No worries... I think you can't build 10 Scanners anyways.
If the guys are right in here it got capped at 5 scanners 🙃

[pearl marten]

Yeah but if you don't want to sell much on the market for T2s ... my main concern is with the Data Bank which we will require a LOT

[solar swallow]

any idea when there will be some fix for "A network error occured" when trying to sell building while at 202/202 structures?

[pearl marten]

wait there's a cap now for scanners?

[karmic crag]

good to know, Probably helps the balance. maybe converters should be capped too? I've alwasy been annoyed at the converter massing for gas generation, just gets tedious

[radiant sky]

No News i'm afraid

[karmic crag]

that error is for selling any buildings at any level, but i agree with the Wen question because i've been a little stuck too and am no longer overbuilding my lands since i can't sell

[radiant sky]

Multiple people mentioning 5 is Max.
Couldn't try myself

[true rampart]

@high sleet have you done any math regarding if its better to max boost a couple of converters or spam max converters at like 80% each ?

[karmic crag]

just save up for next nexus level and don't overbuild

[solar swallow]

But contacting support will help with it or there is just no fix for it atm?

[true rampart]

whats the converter max ?

[karmic crag]

i'm sure they know, but more tickets may help get it done sooner ?

[radiant sky]

I wouldn't CAP any Building tbh.
You can solve spamming Problem with changing min efficiency from 50% to 0%

[radiant sky]

If i remember right it was 12... Maybe it was 9. But you also have 3 Kind of them so it's not tooo bad

[pearl marten]

To boost one converter to 150% (one that is not close to its own resource extractor) requires 18 power stations ... so def multiple lower efficiency ones
see here: #🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[waxen kiln]

I cancelled this sell order, but the fuel is not added back to my fuel (in game it's still there), so now I am not able to sell it again. I has been 8 hours ago. Anybody know how to resolve this issue?

[pearl marten]

12 of each type

[karmic crag]

this is actually wrong I think. Any converter below 100% is actually loosing fuel, not gerating it, so if you stack a ton of 80% ones, they'll all be turning 100 fuel into 80 fuel i think

[true rampart]

you dont need 150% to get max output but i get what you mean

[karmic crag]

So, the math would have to at least generate over 100%/ converter

[pearl marten]

Even if it's capped to 5 .. basically you have to build 1xData Bank every day to keep up with your science - remember BPs also take up space 😄.. 100% needs balancing

[true rampart]

7 max output 1 low output

[radiant sky]

There is no negativ passive production 🙂

[karmic crag]

oh, yeah, forgot about the passive

[true rampart]

ill do spam 80% converters on my other land and see which one produces more

[radiant sky]

Just Make it infinite storage

[karmic crag]

i was just adding the conversion rate which would lose gas at 80%.

[cerulean nest]

In my experience fuel does not get removed from your in-game balance until it is actually sold - so that 600 should never have left your in-game balance

[karmic crag]

My money is on converters needing to be around 120% effeciency to really productive, because then you can both passive and active generate

[pearl marten]

I wish they take into account our feedback ... Theodor said he's going to bring this up with the team

[true rampart]

active generation is useless ... you just need 1 at 150%

[waxen kiln]

It is not, the issue is that it doesn't show up anymore on the balance of the fuel exchange. Even though it was not sold, I cancelled the sell order

[karmic crag]

do they run both at the same time? or is passive only working if converter is not actively running?

my understanding was that you can run both

also, is passive genreation impacted by efficiency rates? I hadn't confirmed that yet

[pearl marten]

Yep true .. i think it's at about 144% or so - but i don't have a max lvl converter sso i can't do the math yet

[radiant sky]

They can run at the same time

[cerulean nest]

Oh sorry I misunderstood your issue. If you have no sell orders, and your in-game balance and the amount showing available for sale on the fuel exchange are different then all I can think of is to refresh the fuel exchange webpage; if that doesn't work then report it as a bug I suppose.

[karmic crag]

I have a level 5 converter on a t4 land, granted it's boosted by landmark to 180% so it throws it off, but i's passive is 260 hyperion/ 288 hrs. when i run it actively it generates something aroudn 80 hyperion/24 hrs.

[pearl marten]

I just raise the ones that you can put alongside the same extractor type .... rest of them for passive at 50-60% eff whatever and save the space for something else

[karmic crag]

I see the active generation having as much or more potiential than passive, and yes, to torrex comment, for sure put one next to each gas extractor of the same type for this reason

[pearl marten]

and how much does it require to output those 80?

[true rampart]

your running 12 converter for each fuel ?

[pearl marten]

hoping to get to that but not yet .. i think i have like 6 of each type for the moment - i want to upgrade these to at least lvl 3 before adding more

[karmic crag]

i mean 80 is the net increase. I think it costs like 500 and produces 580. can't see exact numbers

[pearl marten]

Okay i get it yeah .. pretty good output

[karmic crag]

since it's running right now

[true rampart]

what tier you got ?

[pearl marten]

T3

[true rampart]

nexus ?

[pearl marten]

Lvl 8

[true rampart]

nice

my dumbass bought 3 t1s instead of 1 tier 2 or 3 ... never knew how hard the t1s are but hey ... at least i can experiment with stuff having 3 diff lands

but would deff swap for 1 t2

[pearl marten]

Oh definitely .. and seeing your image above you seem you're doing a great job! 👏

Think most of the hardwork is done already 🙂

[karmic crag]

I'm pretty sure the end play is going to be for higher effiency on conveters as top priority, and then filtering in some 80% ones. I think there will be no point in converters in the range of 85-110%. I'd imagine you either go for +110% to get active gen going or else let them sit at 80%

[true rampart]

im def a tryhard when it comes to stuff ... plus zero is super chill to play

[pearl marten]

You use them only for the passive .. but who knows time will tell

[true rampart]

yeah but active generation is only good if you have multiple fuel sites like in your case

in mine i assume max converters 80% is better

[muted saffron]

hi mate

i’m unable to load my plot. just get the background grass of the plot with no buildings for minutes and then the app crashes. tried on 3 diff devices (pc/mobile) still same problem. can’t play the game at all. it’s been a day already and no response from ticket

[true rampart]

but like i said ill have diff lands doing diff strats and see how it goes

[barren turtle]

The fuel market is concerning…. Has anyone sold fuel yet? I tried but it just sat there

[muted saffron]

anyone with the same problem?

i can’t play the game at all

[true rampart]

working fine for me

[pearl marten]

I mean i for ex on a T3 i have 6 extractors so i aim to bring the converters close to the extractors to 150% eff as it's easier ... rest of them (even at 50%) for passive -> once we'll have them at max we'll be able to do some math and see if it's worth it

[pearl marten]

And in time who knows .. maybe you ll be able to swap for a T2

[karmic crag]

this is true, need to be patient to see if overworld play increases. Gas production ramped up pretty quickly and OW gas spend did not, now we wait and hope demand for gas increases

[barren turtle]

Maybe they should Nerf the F2P gains in overworld.

[karmic crag]

no, they're necessary, just a part of the adoption process and it will take time. Strategically, launching the game with a smaller player base and ironing out a few wrinkles before a massive marketing push is good sense. I hope this is the intention (and not a failed marketing push). The only solve that might have worked is to make building build times a lot slower so all us land owners took longer to get antsy. that might have been the real misstep here

[radiant sky]

Have to wait for Support.
Team is working on it

[barren turtle]

Put an AD in the Super Bowl!! 😂😂😂

[muted saffron]

ok thanks

[karmic crag]

would be fantastic to see, but probably a miss, that works if your player marketing base is all gender/ages/interests and US based. Don't know a ton of overlap between football fans and gamers

[paper flame]

Is anybody able to sell fuel?

[stoic rapids]

yeah - you need to change the price to below what is recommended

[austere tendon]

whats the blue print process just so I know? scanner, then materials lab first? and what is data bank for?

[teal void]

i dont think so i try it for 2 days and nothing sells also far below the market price

[bleak maple]

How do we research Biodata?
I go to my Materials Lab, but it's just a blank screen. There's nothing there to let me research

[stoic rapids]

I sold some this morning

[teal void]

ok thats good for you for what a price

[stoic rapids]

the lowest possible 😬

[teal void]

what is the lowest possible?

[stoic rapids]

try entering $0 as your price, it'll say hey you can't go below $X

[teal void]

ok i will try🤣

[foggy sage]

pretty soon it will though XD

[paper flame]

Why is this happening?

[green osprey]

We cannot even use it for ourself

Shame

[oak ruin]

be patient

we will

just store your fuel for now

[stoic rapids]

fuel supply >>> demand right now

fuel will trend toward zero until overworld playerbase grows significantly

[green osprey]

Will see…

[teal void]

i currently find it very sad that as a landowner i have to buy fuel even though i produce it myself.
I have to buy it to play in the overworld but I can't use my fuel myself, but nobody buys it either, so it's not really great

[oak ruin]

and possibly gets another use

[hidden tangle]

This f2p is making $4 usd an hour thats crazy

People will flood in and screw that up

T0 was not suppose to make anything and be a test

[teal void]

are there any statistics about the player count atm?

[hidden tangle]

One guy during scoriox stream said he was making $4usd per hour farming tier 0 overworld

Its fine to make money but $4 per usd money for free is dilution

Even lumiterra just opened nobody is making $4 an hour there

[oak ruin]

i am playing the game, trying to create the strongest possible illuvials. this is a game, not a job

[teal void]

yes ofc but a bit ROI would be fine ,, wich fuel you use atm?

[oak ruin]

if i make a beat stage 3 illuvial and decide to seel eventually, might be worth a bit

i am still finishing the fuel crates i got lol

[hidden tangle]

When all lands are maxed out producing fuel

What price do you guys think fuel will stabilise at?

Considering whether buying land is worth it? In the case of tier 4, does it do anything besides producing fuel?

[oak ruin]

many improvements and featurews coming to ILV ZERO

lands will have more value in the long term, with gyms and more potential features, other than blueprints etc

this is all just the infancy of illuvium

[hidden tangle]

Thanks my fren

[stoic rapids]

devs have said they're aiming for 2 year ROI on land

[tall crypt]

You have to sell it at 18 and buy it at 26. Man, man, what a world you live in. We live in a world of herbivores and predators, how can you bite the lion.

[oak ruin]

i am not selling anything until i have maximum drone gear and beast illuvials to compete in leviathan. then i start crasfting, fusing and selling excess hehe

[restive ermine]

Does anyone have a map of the large ores in the Desert?

[chrome aurora]

How do we complete the ILV zero daily missions ? for example, I have converted 50 solon today (my daily quest was to convert 25) and it still appears at 0/25 in the illuvidex ILV zero mission tab

[oak ruin]

finding a slappin at crimson wastes is madness hehe

poor penguin

[hidden tangle]

Very fair thank you

[pearl marten]

I found 4 earth Illuvials in Halcyon (1% each 😄 ) but Aaron confirmed % per region wasn't set yet

[oak ruin]

i dont mean illuvium zero in this case hehe, sry, but yeah, got archie at sharbluff

[pearl marten]

They are working on this currently and will be online shortly
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message

[pearl marten]

Oh okay i see 😄 ... good catch though

[unique magnet]

Tier 4 just listed quite a bit below the rest just FYI

[raven ginkgo]

Is it possible to find illuvials in free lands?

[upper seal]

if you work out the current ROI it's still over valued

[foggy echo]

Does anybody know if power stations increase the efficiency boost as they upgrade? Or just power?

[pearl marten]

Only the power

[exotic ibex]

Stupid question but can I get my land off of imx ? Can I transfer it to a different wallet

[subtle frost]

you can get a stage 2 biodata with a level 1 singularity scanner?

[void geode]

First time scanning and got nothing, this normal?

[subtle frost]

maybe

I scanned 5 times

and I got 4 biodata

is that normal?

just luck I think, I am not sure the chances

I am in Halcyon Sea

[void geode]

I'm just hesitant on scanning again since it cost 10 of each fuel

[subtle frost]

I am guessing you are in lower Tier land

like Tier 2?

[analog basin]

Anyone else have stuck fuel extractors. I have a Solon Dredge that simply wont produce Solon. Crypton Gate works fine so does the Hyperion Extractors. Loads of power stations around the Solon Dredge and I have tried moving them about which sometimes kick starts it but then when I log off and back in again it's stuck once again. I've put in a ticket but now I am producing 2x-3x the other fuels and no Solon as it refuses to budge. Frustrating it is.

[void geode]

I'm on the free land

[pearl marten]

Yep seems like so ... it isn't clear yet how the scanning system works - i think at some point you couldn't have gotten the stage 2 without/until successfully researching the stage 1 blueprint but maybe it has changed
@bitter glade @verbal igloo Any details about this?

[subtle frost]

I guess you can focus on upgrading nexus and other thigns first

my stage 2 I found is missing a photo.. I reported it

[pearl marten]

I have a scanner that is stuck

[subtle frost]

LOL also just reported it on X

also anyone upgraded your level 7 Nexus to higher level?

[analog basin]

Just general teething bugs then. Hey Torrex think we were chatting earlier about fuel sales. I managed to eventually sell some fuel but at rock bottom price Duh. Never mind lets see how it goes.

[radiant sky]

afaik biodata doesn't follow a tree where you have to find y biodata before being able to find x biodata.
Only restriction biodata should have as far as i remember are:

• Only tier 1 with a level 1 scanner and then you need to upgrade scanner for higher tier biodata
• You should be able to find a biodata just once.

[subtle frost]

but I only have Level 1 scanner and I got stage 2

[pearl marten]

so with a lvl 5 scanner you can find a Rhamphyre biodata and start researching the BP without the rhamphy?

[radiant sky]

tier and stage isn't the same thing. 🙂

[radiant sky]

as far as i know, yes

[subtle frost]

okay.. so.. I have T3 land

does that mean I can get Tier 3 illuvials biodata

[pearl marten]

On the bright side ... you sold it congrats 😄
But still we do have to have more patience

[radiant sky]

it's not depending on your tier of land, it's depending on the level of your scanner

[subtle frost]

okay I will upgrade my scanner to level 10

[pearl marten]

Hmm... doesn't really feel like progression then 😄
And honestly it takes away from stage 3 BP rarity

[subtle frost]

so I will get Tier 10 illuvials

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-good-luck-gif-20034388

[subtle frost]

love that girl

LOL

level 2 scanner here we come in 16 hours

sad

[radiant sky]

well the chances should still be way higher you find a rhamphy than a rhamphite.
and chances to find a rhamphite should be way higher than you find a rhamphire.

So it's unlikely you find rhamphire before rhamphy, but possible.

[subtle frost]

does singularity scanner need power?

[radiant sky]

But that's actually super old info... like beginning of alpha s1 info 😄

[subtle frost]

I am thinking if I should build one beside that scanner

[radiant sky]

test it

[pearl marten]

It does

[subtle frost]

okay..

thanks Dr. Spoon

I will..

Thanks Torrex

Anyone reaching 1,000 REsources per day generated?

[pearl marten]

Ofc it does ... but i would like it to be more difficult - not in % to find the biodata but more in 'investing' in research .. as it seems a bit more natural to have a progression system imo
Find stage 1 biodata -> get the blueprint and then you can find stage 2 biodata ... but yet again i do understand that it works something like in OW where you can find stage 2/3s without any prerequisites

[pearl marten]

There are people that produce more than that (with fully built T3s and def with T4s)
I'm barely hitting that nr at the moment

[subtle frost]

they probably bought coins

I am not doing that well.. just normal

only playing when I have time

[pearl marten]

No worries .. you'll get there eventually 🙂

[subtle frost]

trying to reach 3.5 million silicon 😦 waiting for a few rounds of production

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[subtle frost]

rookie number 😦 so sad

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-i-know-that-feel-bro-pikachu-gif-15485156

[subtle frost]

pika pika

at least it is balanced

I need some patience

I have not used any coins for speed up .. waiting for 400 coins to add another worker in T3

I am thinking if I should get 3rd worker for T3 or 2nd worker for T2

[tall crypt]

The information you provide is insufficient. You don't say what power the plants are. You must level them up to 2500, 3500... You also don't say what level the extractor is at (red at 700/1000?). It does not depend on the fact that the extractor needs 1000 and putting one of 1500 is not enough. You have to put much more.

[hasty topaz]

Guys if you have a fuel crate and you open it but you don't have space to receive that amount of fuel will the rest of fuel get lostGuys if you have a fuel crate and you open it but you don't have space to receive that amount of fuel will the res

Will you just receive the amount of fuel permitted in your storage for example your storage is 100 for each fuel and you receive 700 of each from the crates will you lose the 600 fuel in difference

[hearty cedar]

It stays in your wallet, does not go to your land.

[glossy tendon]

how much crypton can i produce per day with best land ?

[hasty topaz]

Can I transfer the amount needed to my land

And thnx for the info

[random siren]

Has anyone had the "bug" your session has expired and it logs you out and then your progress resets? It started happening today

[hasty topaz]

Hello mate for extra assurance info the fuel crate if you open it those fuel goes direct to your land and loose the exceeded amount your storage in the land or it goes direct to you wallet then you can transfer tot he plot the amount needed

[exotic ibex]

Do I have to send my land from imx to my meta mask wallet to play my land in zero? Because it's not showing up

[simple dove]

Hey guys, is anyone else not receiving passive income from anti solon converters? My other converters get passive income but not my anti solon ones

[hasty topaz]

Yes

[hasty topaz]

Me too

[simple dove]

Your other converters working?

[radiant sky]

It gets added to your passport, can't use that fuel for zero

[hasty topaz]

Tero you mean in the plot

??

[hasty topaz]

Yes other are giving passive but the anti is not till know I was going to wait till 12utc to see if it gives before I announced here

[simple dove]

I have waited 5 days and most are above 100 percent efficiency

[hasty topaz]

I have them on 144 percent

[simple dove]

How can I report and get them fixed?

And solon added back?

How many days have you waited?

[hasty topaz]

Well I noticed yesterday

So am gonna wait more now to see if today's it gives me

Passive income

[simple dove]

Its put me way behind production

[hasty topaz]

Yeah I know

[hasty topaz]

So the crates when you claim them it goes to wallet you can't use them in the land or what

??

Fuel crates

??

[radiant sky]

Yes... Should have been "Zero", sorry

[hasty topaz]

So you can't use them in your plot that's lame it's just for selling

So what's your advice selling the crate or opening it and selling each fuel apart

??

[little moon]

If you play OW, you can use it there

Not on your land

Before using it in OW, you need to claim it

[terse remnant]

Am I the only one who has misclicked more than once, twice, or three times on their extractors and has sold their buildings already upgraded to level 3, 4, or even 5? Am I the only one who thinks that the sell button and the mine shouldn't be so close together? xDD

Has this topic been discussed anywhere?

[void geode]

Do you have to start and complete an Illuvial Scan within the same day to get credit for the daily? I did a scan but didn't get rewarded for it

[terse remnant]

i know that feel xD
Obviously it's our fault for being absent-minded, but maybe it's not a bad idea not to put them together in the future, I think there are a lot of absent-minded people in the world xD

[open stratus]

Almost done it a number of times now

[heavy hamlet]

Gotta boost production and storage to avoid bottleneck. Seems way too soon to level up scanner

[open stratus]

Change the colour of the sell tab

[simple dove]

Are you having the passive income for solon bug?

[wraith garnet]

any update on when 2x2 or 3x3 plots?

[radiant sky]

Don't really wana give financial advice 😅

[foggy bison]

Yeah, the last couple of days. Luckily, I never lose more than about 15 seconds of progress.

[heavy hamlet]

You'll run into the temporary problem of not producing enough resources to drive scanner activity, fuel extraction, and other upgrades until you get more storage and production sorted. You're setting up for a bottleneck problem

[random siren]

Same but wife is finding it annoying lol. I logged out of our account from my phone to see if it helps

[subtle frost]

your wife is playing?

wow.. you got a good one

[hasty topaz]

Am asking for your personal opinion not financial advice am not gonna make you responsible for that chill out just your opinion on the matter this fuel can be sold right in the market and what about if I buy in the market some fuel can I transfer them to my plot for use

[exotic ibex]

Does anyone know how to transfer your Ilv land from immutable to MM. I can't find the nft I'd #

[foggy bison]

LOL, mine doesn't even know!🤣

[subtle frost]

that you are playing

she thinks you are a kid

you play at 12am under your blanket

and stay on the toilet too long

[terse remnant]

I didn't know there was a bug about it, but yes, I haven't received a single passively, even though I used it to convert.

[radiant sky]

yea i get that.
One could argue to sell as many fuel as possible since price is decreasing, more land starting to play soon with 2nd wallet support.
On the other hand there might be incentives soon for buying and farming for good assets for upcoming tournaments, leaderboards, revised airdrop board, other events.

No, you can't bring fuel into zero for now. This might be a possible feature in future.

[foggy bison]

I restarted my Solon Dredge in the doctors office today!
Two Solon every two hours is absolutely killing me!🤣

[thorny crater]

Found a bug that i can repeat where do i report it?

it gives resources too i think, i cant tell for sure tho

eveytime to sell the hyperion Lathe it does that, the resource for the sell go up, then when i click ok the screen flashes, and the build comes back

ah i was used to pushing the b button sorry i got it

[silk parrot]

The science part of paid lands... The biodata thing where you can find blueprints...

Is it just blueprints or can you find illuvials themselves like when you capture in overworld?

[thorny crater]

just BPs

did anyone do something like this before?

i just did this t0 just to see, REALY sucks without 3 builders lol

idont want to contine...ive been spoiled haha

[wary notch]

Is there a limit to how many converters I can build of a certain fuel?

Seems like I cant build anymore converters for crypton, but I can for solon or hyperion.

I have not reached any other limit like structures and do have the resources

[fervent slate]

Daily Mission cannot be completed...

[unborn osprey]

No gold rewards after level 175???

[thin dirge]

What does upgrading materials lab actually do? All I can see is that research costs 50% more but the chance of finding something is still 5%

[cloud pecan]

can we fix zero daily missions not registering pls

[livid wing]

guys, was thinking about getting a land, is it worth it right now?

how's the game, take too much time?

[lunar shell]

yes, i just got +50 credit when reaching lvl 200

[unborn osprey]

I haven't gotten +1 last 5 level ups...

[flat steeple]

I’d hold off for now

Buying $ILV would probably be a better investment

I’d let it drop to at least $22 before even trying to buy

https://tenor.com/view/cry-happy-gif-27461684

[livid wing]

oh i see

[twin oracle]

What is the order to build to scan illuvials? I already have singularity scanner, now I should go with materials lab, and then zero point? Can you help me?

[livid wing]

i wouldnt actually buy it, im on a community who has a land since mint I think, and they offer it to me to manage it since I played a lot of overworld and arena for the airdrop

i didnt played Zero tho, so would need to learn it from zero

but considering no risk, is the land profitable rn?

even if it takes that hard start

[flat steeple]

At this point I regret even buying my T1 land at auction. It does not do anything.

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rainbow-imagination-box-gif-11902316362590532272

[livid wing]

got it

i like resource management

[flat heron]

My T4 plot got serious problem after I brough it yesterday

1. Some building cannot do any action like production or move
2. The hyperion balance on fuel exchange was -177. When I produce using hyperion it will throw error like "Cannot use locked resource"
3. I cannot even reset the plot, the plot remain the same after I click the reset plot button

someone have same problem as me? I have already report the bug in game. Do not know how long it will be take to fix the problem

[silk parrot]

sorry was afk, ty

[sonic gazelle]

what time do daily mission reset

[silk parrot]

I bought a land about a week ago, had same problem and they were aware of it.

I didn't see any mention of it but thought it would have been fixed by now. I reset my land so I could play, thought I made a mistake since it takes a very long time to build.

Maybe it really hasn't been fixed yet?

[twin oracle]

How to increase singularity efficiency? I already try some power, but never change. And it's already on the best spot

[flat heron]

I cannot reset my plot

[long ivy]

Move other buildings (except for power stations) at least six spaces away

[twin oracle]

Hmmm thanksss ❤️

[foggy bison]

Did you upgrade your Power Stations or did you add Power Stations?

[twin oracle]

I add power stations, only have one. But it's really close. Look:

I will change to far. I didn't know about those six space away. Is this for others industries too? Must be far away?

[foggy bison]

Add more Power Stations. It takes a lot of them!

[tribal zealot]

yeee N8 by end of this week

[twin oracle]

hmmm perfect. I will do that. I only have singularity from science. What is the best to build next, materials lab?

[tall canopy]

Is this a graph of how many illuvials you can capture per scanner level?

[atomic zealot]

How much did you pay?

[foggy bison]

What level is your land?

[livid wing]

and what about fuel production, you can sell it in game?

[flat heron]

around 3 ETH

[atomic vortex]

so is it true that free to play land will not be able to use the fuel it produces?

[livid wing]

lmao

[atomic vortex]

isnt that the point tho its not suppose to be easy its a game??

[nimble lichen]

scanner(scan for bio data) >> materials lab(research found biodata for facts and blueprints) >> data bank(storage for biodata and research efficiency)

[twin oracle]

Nexus VII, land level 166

[twin oracle]

Perfect. Thank you a lot

[atomic vortex]

yeah i do too but i been grinding free land

[foggy bison]

Sorry, I meant T1, T2???

[atomic vortex]

do the prices fluctuate on the land market?

[twin oracle]

T1

[random siren]

what device are you playing on?

[foggy bison]

I've been told that it's not a good idea to do both fuel and biodata on a T1, that you should only do one or the other. For example, I have a T1 and I'm only after fuel.

[flat heron]

Mostly PC, sometime mobile

[twin oracle]

Hmmmm. That make sense. I will think about that

It make sense, since you need fuel to use scan. Maybe I will scan after finish all the rest. But thank you for help

[random siren]

try logging out of the device you are not on and re logging in on the device you want to play on, this helped me with a bug, not the one u have but worth a try

[foggy bison]

My Nexus hits Level VI in about 40 minutes. I haven't yet decided if I should upgrade my Engineering Workshop to Level VI or upgrade my Quantum Fabricant to Level II.

[livid wing]

but the fuel we buy com fuel exchange come from land owners selling it?

[flat heron]

Thanks mate. Just tried on my mac. no luck. It seems like a database level issue

[atomic vortex]

isnt that the point there should be a reserve and we shold see how much fuel is in it? so supply demand takes over?

[atomic zealot]

Damn that's alot

[random siren]

shoot, deff make a support ticket

[flat heron]

I have reported in game. Is there other way to report the problem

[random siren]

that is the best way!

[gray vale]

So is there a way to cycle daily goals? I am stuck with a goal I can never possibly complete....seems like a major oversite if there isnt a way.

[atomic zealot]

There's no one buying fuel unfortunately and overworld isn't generating enough to keep studio afloat.

[gray vale]

not surprised. thats what happens when devs dont listen to common sense.

[mighty nexus]

[foggy bison]

Dude, knock it off!

[flat steeple]

[atomic vortex]

haha u guys are funny tho

[young nacelle]

I think is still early to sell fuel unless pump a lot of credit. just saying.

[flat steeple]

….You have to ask?

[atomic vortex]

long term mindset guys

[flat steeple]

You forgot the “ “….

[compact nebula]

Is there a bug on daily quest? Some plots reset and some didnt except for the clear 5 plants quest

[gray vale]

Thats not how games work unfortuantly. They are all FOMO. and typically peak player count is withing first month of release. and Illuviuls is...weak

[young nacelle]

yeah T4 and T5.
my opinion maybe for T1-T3. haha

[atomic vortex]

All of the games are in Beta?

[young nacelle]

especially for those without paying for credit.
even slower. haha.

[gray vale]

yea "beta" yet fully released lol

[flat steeple]

@south mural , take that rodent off

[atomic vortex]

i think you are misunderstanding the mission

[young nacelle]

T1 with credit or not?

I mean paying for more credit.

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/my-nemesis-mortal-enemy-rival-enemy-arch-enemy-gif-13269855

[little moon]

Can I give someone Hyperion

Or does it have to go directly to the DAO

I'm borrowing a friend's plot. He put the plot into my address. Can I send him fuel and stuff

[grand silo]

very nice setup

[little moon]

Dude! This is fantastic.

What resources do you have on this plot and how long does it take you to mine Hyperion or I mean how much do you get per 6 hours at nexus 7. I'm currently upgrading to Nexus 5, but am only level 43. T1

[flat steeple]

The DAO, taxes like the government

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-now-girl-calvin-payne-house-of-payne-cmon-now-oh-come-on-gif-23368137

[foggy bison]

Oh man, super jealous right now, my friend! My Nexus hits Level VI in about 10 minutes. I can't decide if I should upgrade my Engineering Workshop to Level VI or upgrade my Quantum Fabricant to Level II on a T1.

[thorny crater]

riddle me this batman...what's my goal

[thorny crater]

looks like my message can not be loaded or was deleted

[mighty nexus]

[high sleet]

Nah was waiting to see what some of the level 6 numbers look like. As far as I can tell a mixture of both is the ideal play

[subtle frost]

I tried giving it some love

I think it is just the plaec you placed it. it needs to be a place with no colours

[young nacelle]

Only can sell fuel 🥲
if really can do that, awesome ❤️

cool, I have 1, stick to original. imagine how slow. haha

[foggy bison]

Are you saying I might want to add a second Hyperion Lathe and 9 Power Stations with my Nexus VI upgrade? Maybe getting Nexus VII is more important than Engineering Workshop Level VI or Quantum Fabricant Level II... With a T1, I'm thinking I could really use 52 more buildings.

[young nacelle]

I will see how it goes.
Maybe I'm enjoying the process. :,D
Personal question, the hamster, really yours? ^^

[mental wing]

so is the fuel selling function working? Listed my fuel below market and it still hasnt sold yet

[onyx relic]

why my daily quest in website doesnt apply?

[foggy bison]

I have 1 Solon Dredge, which is my only natural fuel, which gives me 2 Solon every 2 hours. I have 1 each of the other two fuel converters, but don't use them now. Can't even remember why I needed them, maybe to update my silos to Level V??? My 1 Hyperion Lathe has 12 Power Stations around it, which got it to 129%, so at least it would convert 10 Solon to 10 Hyperion, rather than 10 to 8. So maybe I'll build 1 more Hyperion Lathe and 9 Power Stations. If those Power Stations don't get me up to par 10 for 10, I'll steal other Power Stations from other places, or just put up with the poor conversion. I already have 10 Hyperion, need 70 more. That'll cost me 70 Solon which will take ~ 3 days (not including sleep). The only fuel I'll need is Silicon for the Solon Dredge, which I can easily keep up with. Thanks for your insights!

[twin oracle]

Nice. My nexys in on level 7. I always update quantum to update my exctractor fuel, and upgrade engineering only after that. My extractor is on level 3. Will updgrade on two days I think to level 4.

[subtle frost]

LOL

[tribal zealot]

if we can use our illuvials in the future to battle on our lands...GG

[high sleet]

YESSSS RTS PLZZZ

[mossy sorrel]

what changed? how come the zero quests are no longer linked to the game?

[flat steeple]

Sonic adventures 2, Chao tournaments. Same concept for Illuvials but better and BOOM, we got some good side entertainment! (Stats would definitely be used here)

[foggy bison]

That's what I love about this place! My Fabricant is still L1. But I already have 4 out of the 5 Crypton I'd need to upgrade it. I could probably have that last guy passively by tomorrow morning. Then upgrade Fabricant to LII, upgrade Dredge to LII, buy a second Lathe and a bunch of Power Stations. Thank you @south mural and @twin oracle !

[tribal zealot]

yeee i'm here for it

[foggy bison]

@high sleet in the house! Sorry, I've had way too much caffeine today!🤣

[twin oracle]

niceee. Let's gooooo

Nexus VII you can build 102 industries. It's amazing

It's almost the double from Nexus VI

[flat steeple]

Someone start a IIP for this . @bitter glade any thoughts of this being a decent idea? 💡

[twin oracle]

Yeap. It's starting to become huge

Level VIII must be insane. Tier 1 won't have space for that hahaha

[little moon]

Can you please re.screenshot this with Power displayed? Just out of interest. This looks so cool.

[fleet moss]

hi, the land cannot be opened， how to solve it？

[young nacelle]

a lot of power station there.

[twin oracle]

nice.

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[twin oracle]

converter at 150% gives how much? If I convert 10, gives 11?

that's a good idea

[high sleet]

I am on a red bull rn lmao

[high sleet]

How's it going Steve

[flat steeple]

Unless they actually listen to the holders and increase efficiency for upgrades…I doubt it tho

[foggy bison]

Fantastic! Having a lot more fun than I deserve!

[high sleet]

Hahaha glad to hear it I think?

[high sleet]

Whats up Juju?

[flat steeple]

How goes it bro

[young nacelle]

how is the taste? never try that before.

[shut wave]

Hey! Been watching your youtube videos. Very helpful! Can you make a video about illuvium zero fuel economics, sale forecast etc. The previous ones are outdated 🙂

[flat steeple]

Has there been a IIP for power stations upgrades also increasing efficiency?

[high sleet]

I enjoy, but it fcks me up

[silk parrot]

L3 needs 149%

[young nacelle]

I'm thinking if someday allow landholder to 1 button click remove all the building and re-allocate all of if 1 by 1 for design^^
like clash of clan? haha

[high sleet]

I am getting this question a lot. Trying to uncover the potential fuel output first, waiting on some screenshots from people

As soon as I am confident I will smash out the video

[foggy bison]

Exactly, 129% at LI will get you even par 10 to 10.

[high sleet]

You had some issues with something, I'd love to hear more 🙂

[twin oracle]

hmmm, that's interest. I will work to try something like that on converters. Thanks

[last tiger]

All buildings are at 150%?

I have all my fuel extractors at 150% and I'm not getting the extra 😢

[flat steeple]

A decent amount of us have talked about it in the past few days. In #🎮〕illuvium-zero & #🗻〕land-owner chat. The excessive amount of power stations required to increase efficiency is wild. Why is it that upgrading these structures do not increase the amount of efficiency they yield to other structures?
Also the way power flows through these power stations to other structures…is weird. I can have a station that powers 2 structures evenly, but having another structure just within reach still pulls power away from it(requiring an upgrade) even though there is another power station joined to the hip of this structure.

Dang that was a lot, my bad

[last tiger]

In your fuel extractors at 150% are you getting the extra fuel cuz I'm not

Extractors

This is my current build

[foggy bison]

Yeah, I learned the hard way - upgraded lots of Power Stations to LIV with no increase in Efficiency anywhere. Lessons learned.

[flat steeple]

Yeah I informed someone else about this a few days ago. I thought everyone noticed this at the start

[foggy bison]

Hey, what can I say, I'm a noob!

[little moon]

Fuckin awesome

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/were-learning-together-pksparkxx-learning-together-thumbs-up-like-it-gif-17879559

[last tiger]

I have them at level 2 and it says 6 fuel at 150% should give more or I'm tripping cuz it was like that back in the day

@south mural

[flat steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/not-today-satan-hamster-beat-up-lion-king-take-that-gif-18766840

[last tiger]

Oh my bad I get it now thanks brother

Yeah you are totally right the fuel display info was different in older versions on the game and that got me confused

[glad mango]

Did they change the timedout amount. Keep having to restart

I wish they would put land sale offers right into the game so people see if they have offers on thier plot

[young nacelle]

sounds good

direct link from website to game

[neon light]

The Illuvidex page is using up a lot of CPU, MacOS, latest Chrome

Im on this page fuel-exchange?tab=sell

idle, not doing anything on the page (not clicking), have 3 listings open
happens also when I dont look at the tab

cc @bitter glade

have been observing for a few days now, happens quite often

[magic lichen]

anyone knows how do I get plots purchased 2 years ago into current Illuvium Zero game?
or it's just beta at this point?

[karmic mica]

it seems as though many of the bugs on the marketplace are ImmutableX related - i wonder if the memory usage is part of that too?

[glad mango]

Have to migrate the account they were purchased on

[karmic mica]

you'll need to migrate your IMX account, this announcement should be a good place to start: #📣〕announcements message

but the game is not in beta any longer, it is live

[magic lichen]

yeah, they are on eth wallet
thank you for response though

is there any docs on that for land specifically

[quaint prism]

Secondary Wallet support is in the testing phase, per the team. So it should be coming soon hopefully

[magic lichen]

and do I get it right, resources mined there can be used for travel, crafting etc?

thank you so much!

woah, figured out I can fuel my trips using lands
better late than never🔥

[karmic mica]

yeah, you're still very early to the game. depending on your tier of land it'll take a few weeks to get to meaningful fuel production

[magic lichen]

I'm hearing people can sell now
so you need to run it through market it seems

[chrome harbor]

Is there someone same problm as mine. My daily mission wont reflect on there site eventhough im done. How to solve?

[timber bolt]

Can we use our fuel crates for ILV Zero? If so, how do we move the various resources to show in game?

[magic lichen]

I wonder if that's just 'organic' economy

oh shit, there are crates too
so many insites in 10 mins

[vivid cipher]

You list your fuel for sale and then wait for players to buy it. But for many of the the listing there are other lower priced listings so it’s not being purchased by players.

Demand is not meeting the supply being listed. Unfortunately one issue that makes the system especially difficult to see what price land owners should be listing their fuel for is the fact that you don’t really know what other listings exist. It’s more like a double sided blind action.

I’ve given feedback that improvements should be made

[timber bolt]

Thanks. I recently deposited some funds through IMX to buy resources for Zero to speed up builds. How long does it usually take for funds to show up in passport?

[little moon]

Seems like it would be easier to just everyone throw it into a pool

[queen igloo]

Completed daily/weekly task not registering on illuvidex.illuvium.io Mission tab when I check
Report sent in game

[timber bolt]

Can I buy Solon, crypton from the illuvidex and use it in ILV Zero mobile?

Much appreciated, friend 🙏

[pearl dagger]

When are we going to get hotkey functionality - such as F1-F5 for toggling visual canvas' on and off, ESC for getting out of a menu, etc?

Wrong answer 😉

It's built with Unity, so adding that is a days development easy

[lapis gulch]

Hmm. I've had issues I load up my season missions for zero and I get a quest to harvest carbon. And I have already done so like 20 minutes ago and it doesn't count.

btw having season quests for stuff that costs 24 hours is really bad. Like scan/research.

You cannot complete those if you're not kinda prepared in advance for those. It's a bit frustrating.

[still dagger]

Yeah, missions are not working properly right now... Did the 24hours scan/research and nothing, missions not completed. They did something the day of the Overworld/Arena updates that affected Zero missions.

[minor pilot]

Can you change your buy price on the fuel exchange ?

[pearl dagger]

Perfect, keep yelling about it til it happens 🙂

[bleak maple]

I understand gold coins are a common pool for all land plots in your account, but what about builders?
If I buy extra builders, can I use them on all my land plots as well?

[exotic breach]

Only on one.

[versed warren]

Any news on when i can play with my assets that I own in my cold storage?

[vagrant heron]

I am also just waiting for this news. Don’t care about anything else right now lol. Wasn’t the last status that’s it’s in final testings? I think it was said on last Saturday or so.

[versed warren]

So many more lands will be played after this crucial implementation is in place.

[vagrant heron]

Yea. I was thinking whether I should move some little plots over to start with them but then I was thinking it could cause issues maybe transferring back with builders or resources or whatever so I decided to just wait it out

[silk patio]

Can i build 2 singularity scanner and materials lab?

[mossy sorrel]

yes

[silk patio]

Okay thanks sir. What to focus when i reached nexus 7 on illuv zero?

[mossy sorrel]

depends on what your goals are.. whether you want to focus on scanners or fuel production

i would put more emphasis on fuel personally, at least for a few weeks, level 1 scanners will probably only get your T1 biodata everyone has, so don't need to rush it

[silk patio]

What about im focusing on the missions to get points?

[mossy sorrel]

there aren't many points to get in zero... and it's been bugged for 2 days, can't complete quests

[silk patio]

But this sounds good also

[silk patio]

Im targeting the weekly missions 👀

[mossy sorrel]

you're playing your own plot right? or the free one

[silk patio]

Yeah the free one

[mossy sorrel]

oh.. then yeah, just do missions then

[silk patio]

Do i need to get more plots also?

[mossy sorrel]

you don't have to... other plots will cost money, it's up to you if you want to get them if you enjoy it

[silk patio]

How much it costs if ever? Sorry im new here thats why i have many questions 😅

[mossy sorrel]

2 days in a row the daily missions didn't work... but apparently i completed the weekly.. maybe it happened on monday

[mossy sorrel]

depends on which tier you get, prices can range from 300 ~ 10000 USD

[silk patio]

I saw here that theres a marketplace for the plots and it costs much money

[mossy sorrel]

those plots will allow you to sell fuel, where as your free one does not

[silk patio]

Did you already invested here? How much did you spent as of now?

[mossy sorrel]

a lot...

[silk patio]

Oh okay

[mossy sorrel]

yes

[thorny sentinel]

can someone explain to me wad does upgrading material lab, zero pt transducer, data bank does? cant seem to find wad are the improvements from upgrading these buildings

[solar swallow]

With level tiers You can research higher tiers of illuvials

Data bank more space

Zero point I guess when minting will be available then same like lab

[kindred monolith]

Yes it is really frustrating 😤

[mossy sorrel]

wonder what they did to break the link... -_-

[solar swallow]

A network error occurred when trying to sell building is frustrating

Daily mission and weekly goal rewards are not really a thing when You will have developed land at any tier

And can't get beyond 201 anyway

[vivid cipher]

A good question. I’ll ask

[thorny sentinel]

thx man appreciate it!

[mossy sorrel]

does data bank not provide more data space?

[thorny sentinel]

i guess that would makes sense. but not sure abt the others tho

[mossy sorrel]

materials lab allows you to research higher tier biodata

i haven't upgraded my data bank yet... cause it costs 300 solon... not sure if it was intended to cost that much or still waiting for a fix

[thorny sentinel]

LOL thats insane man

[thorny sentinel]

oh does that mean if its not upgraded, a stage 1 material lab will not be able to research T2 onwards illuvials?

[vivid cipher]

That’s correct. I knew that one but forgot. lol

[thorny sentinel]

i see i see.. cool

so i assumed for zero pt transducer the upgrade works the same way? to mint higher tier illuvials?

[mossy sorrel]

And 300 Solon is only for level 2 data bank….

[thorny sentinel]

does it make sense to just build more data banks instead of upgrading? assuming u have sufficient land space haha

[mossy sorrel]

If it gives 300 spaces, the. Maybe it’s worth it..

[vivid cipher]

I’ll see if I can find the intended costs in game docs…

[mossy sorrel]

Yeah, can probably replace a few power stations

[mossy sorrel]

Great, thanks

[thorny sentinel]

my T1 progress is so damn slow man LOL. builder is almost always on standby cos theres not enough resources for upgrade

more of a garderner role tbh clearing plants

[vivid cipher]

Welp… I usually don’t know where to look and have failed once more.

[mossy sorrel]

haha

[young nacelle]

Make coffee ☕

[foggy sage]

do all buildings count the same towards the path bonus

IE a power station contributes just as much as the nexus does when counting towards path bonus

[vivid cipher]

Yes

[fleet jacinth]

if you're a simp like me you can buy a second builder for 20usd

so connecting all your buildings with paths increases your speed of everything?

i was wondering how to increase that % thingo

[vivid cipher]

Yeah.+ 1% for every +10 buildings connected to a continuous path

[primal swift]

Nooob here. Been building like crazy. So, we aren't yet able to sell any of these resources yet?

[foggy sage]

can we get a counter next to the path bonus to let us how know how many buildings are needed before the next % increase

[vivid cipher]

Only land owners can sell their fuel on the fuel exchange

[vivid cipher]

Use the game report issue button to give that feedback

[cunning surge]

Hey guyz. I have a problem with daily quest and weekly. I have a quest to extract carbon, but i cant complete it bc my land doesn't have that resourse. And becouse of that i cant complete weekly quest. Since i cant complete it new quests doesn't appear. So is there any chance to cancel quest?

[fleet jacinth]

i had the same issue, i thing it's bugged or pay to win, converters don't count towards it

[cunning surge]

Yep convertors doesnt count... Any info from the team?

[fleet jacinth]

yep my converter doesn't count towards it

i dont have silicon on my site yet i've converted passively and actively over 1 million silicon

it could be intentional to promote the purchase of higher tier land, or a bug in the code

[verbal igloo]

GM

[fleet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-confused-gif-7441776660901104597

[verbal igloo]

This is currently an issue on our side, users should not receive goals that cannot be completed. We are working towards fixing it

[fleet jacinth]

good to know i'lll pass this on to other users in this channel when i get the chance 🙂

[fleet jacinth]

it's a bug the teams aware of, they're fixing it as we speak

[cunning surge]

Yeah good to know

[primal swift]

I am a land owner.

[solar swallow]

It does

[vivid cipher]

Ok. Then you can sell fuel on the IlluviDex on the fuel exchange

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/fuel-exchange?tab=buy

The SELL tab. Not sure why it linked to the buy tab.

[primal swift]

When I switch to "sell". Only the choice of "Land" presents.

[vivid cipher]

Click your land

[foggy sage]

Now if this dont get you hard IDK what well

[primal swift]

Ok, I'll try it tomorrow. Been on this all day

[upper seal]

i think we need arena on mobile asap to get more players. give it 2 months when most of the current players have full illuvial sets and T3-T4 plots at full production. there will be zero demand for fuel. Id guess we have a month of making anything from fuel sales. The current Arena game isnt bringing in enough demand for illuvials.

[karmic hare]

Mission progression for Zero missions is still not working properly. I'm starting to think that the team gave up on fixing this. lol

[twin knot]

Well done! Do you find anything with your scanners? You are prioritising fuel extraction your scanners have a low efficiency...

[foggy sage]

Fuel>Scanners IMO

not yet i just finished this like 20 mins ago

still need to upgrade all fuel sources to max as well get the resources up a few stages

this should produce about 6500 fuel a day

[karmic hare]

Extract 100 Solon as a daily mission. Well played guys. lmao