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What does these element sites gives in land.. planning to buy lands
have they thought about hosting the game on epic games store? it would bring in a wider player base
Im sure that would be a longer process, delaying the game even more
In the absence of a clear roadmap I've set my own personal date for everything still to be released by illuvium. My date is 13:00 UTC on the 24th of March 2025. Any releases before then I consider a bonus
is that your birthday or something
frequent bug of this bot
got scared but i was like ima go buy
that's the spirit
bout to buy high sell low 😆
Rip your dream
People use epic games store?
No. There’s nothing like that going on at the moment.
It’s locked in the contract. It can’t be moved. But if you lose your keys then whoever has them will eventually be able to withdraw and transfer your deposits.
Yes I just got borderlands 3 for free on epic and played few hours that's nice
It's my birthday today actually, now that you mention it! 😉
Fraggy it's a new day
HAPPY BIRTHDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY 

Thanks Fraggy 🥳
$bals
@lusty mantle, you have no balances.
lol
Ryan! Happy birthday man. I'm glad you were born. Immutable is changing the world, literally
Happy birthday Ryan
#👑〕bot-commands
You teached it with f and not F ?
We all are 🤝
But yes, gaming is the first vertical.
The whole world is going to become tokenised, this is just the beginning
Thank god
Happy birthday Ryan! 🥳
Yeah I mean everyone is awesome, but immutable + GameStop partnership kinda just changed the planet.
Literally corrected the variant timeline we split off on when Harambe got kilt
My thumbs are lazy. If I want proper punctuation I go to the computer.
gmgm
Happy Birthday!
Sounds like you @lusty mantle 😄
Just ask yourself, is future-you going to be disappointed in the decisions present-you made today lol?
Lol
Probably
Correct answer
❤️
What are mega cities.. not able to get the idea of it !
Damn son tier 3 land is 5k+ in halcyon. What the balls
You want the short or long answer

How does the land work? Can we buy some?
On secondary, imx, yeah
You got ghosted
Hella did, I had links ready and everything
Now when they respond in 3 hours just send them all wrong information
Reminds me of back in the day when Kyle swiped left on me. Yesterday, yesterday was back in the day.
Lol I just make random comments so if someone ignores me I’m used to it by now. Probably better for my image if people ignore 90% of what I say
You're blue, I couldn't ignore you fi I wanted to.
I can't find it on os
Ye gotta look on imx marketplace.
Matt are there any chameleons in the game
there could be, might be hard to find
No but there’s one that kind of looks like one. Even more than what fraggy linked
Alright so, either that post is bugged, or that is the best troll I've ever seen because the post is invisible.
talking about the komodo line?
Fliish
theres no "running out of time" u can buy whenever u like. If you want to test alpha, youd want to get before that, if u want to earn fuel profits, wait till full economy, ur choice
still like the komodo line more lol
Tbf that's nothing like a chameleon lmao other than 4 legs
Never saw these before 
Needs a tail that curls down, two turret eyes, a tongue pouch on the chin, and 24 toes
no matter what anyone ever says, terror birds are officially called chocobos in my mind lmao
could owner of 774,404 crystal shores please list it 😉
OK so I'm absolutely addicted to pho irl. Have had it twice a week for like a decade. But I'd 100% opt for Phoscyon here
What's so good about that land fubar
I cant see it since I'm in mobile
Long
Or can I. Haven't tried hang on
You can try in #🛒〕land-dex
Komodo is sweet. Stage 3 is basically just me
A megacity is a very large city, typically with a population of more than 10 million people.[1][2] Precise definitions vary: the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs in its 2018 "World Urbanization Prospects" report counted urban agglomerations having over 10 million inhabitants.[3] A University of Bonn report held that they are "usually defined as metropolitan areas with a total population of 10 million or more people".[4] Others list cities satisfying criteria of either 5 or 8 million and also having a population density of 2,000 per square kilometre.[5] The terms conurbation, metropolis, and metroplex are also applied to the latter.[5]
The total number of megacities in the world varies between different sources: The world had 33 according to the UN (in 2018), 37 according to CityPopulation.de (in 2020), and 35 according to Demographia (in 2020). About half these urban agglomerations are in China and India. The other four countries with more than one megacity are Brazil, Japan, Pakistan, and the United States. African megacities are present in Nigeria, Egypt, South Africa, and the DRC; European megacities are present in Russia, France, the United Kingdom, and Turkey (also in Asia); megacities can be found in Latin America in the countries of Brazil, Mexico, Colombia, Peru, and Argentina. Some sources identify Tokyo's Greater Tokyo Area as the largest megacity in the world,[3][6] while some others give the title to Guangzhou's Pearl River Delta.[7][8][9]
I was gonna say, stage 3 komodo has seen some shit
Is it related to illuvium?
Probably not. But here's your long answer even though it's short https://youtu.be/f-F1OU22zoo
🚀🌕 Pre-register now: https://cutt.ly/illuvium
Join our community: https://cutt.ly/illuviumdiscord
ABOUT THE GAME
Illuvium is an exploration looter and collectible autobattler game built on the Ethereum Blockchain, releasing on PC and Mac in 2022. Play and earn in a graphically-rich, vividly-realized sci-fi adventure and conquer the wilderness t...
Thanks
nvm, saw wrong one
Lol no... never ever😂
Xoxo
Like I said, prolly connected to his other plots, or he needs it to enable a megacity
If you buy land do you get beta access?
Honestly the reason I haven't bought land yet is because I'm not wanting to get stuck and not be able to buy the surrounding land. So I'm prolly gonna opt for a bulk purchase if anyone's selling what I need
its not in a position for megacity with what land has been available yet, cant make a 2x2 with it
If you buy land you get alpha access iirc, when alpha releases
Surrounding land?
Snap you're right. I didn't even notice that, good call
what you looking at that with its no showing the other plots ?
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, last thing I want is to buy a plot like the above and not be able to make a 3x3
Doing the trivia is the only way to get access to the pre alpha that people are playing now?
Nah
thats on illuvidex, did u post wrong location or did i look at wrong one?
Be active in here, get to ranger rank (check your rank in #👑〕bot-commands), and then fill out the beta form in here somewhere and you'll be likely to get access to the next round of invites in a couple weeks or so
Ughhh.. i m still very confused about it🥲
OK I'll explain as I understand it. Somebody yeet me if I'm wrong
Thanks for the info!
If you have 4 plots of land in a 2 by 2 formation, you can enable what's called a "mega city". This means that all FO your resources can pool together with bonuses such as those given by landmarks.
Landmarks are tier 3+ structures that give 100% increase resource generation / conversion efficiency for a specific resource
correctlocation my ildex looks nothing like that looks like yours has some filter on it thats not showing sold blocks
theres honestly nothing definitive as an IIP hasnt been written yet for it
Benefit being, if you pick up 3 different t1 lands that all have crypton nodes for example, and your 4th plot has the crypton boost landmark, all of your tier 1 plots now have that boost too. Big money. Probably.
hs ur right lmao
Damn didn't knew about it
The only caveat is they have to be in a 2x2 or 3x3 etc.
Actually idk if etc. Applies, I've only seen them state 2x2 and 3x3
So all my plots should have to be in same region for it ?
Nah they have to be connected and make a square
Think they should be in same region, as don't think regions connect to each other.
So you need a 2x2 or 3x3 (approved so far) to make a square in the map
I think i need to go into details more now !..
Using the photo above, these two layouts would be two separate mega cities
if owned by a single wallet
Correct
And if any of the one has boost.. it will be applicable to all lands ?
All lands in that megacity
So if square 2 on the left gets a boost, square 1/3/4 in the left side would also get it.
from a landmark specifically as far as ive heard
The only boosts I've seen are tier 3 and tier 4 lands. So be prepared to be balls deep in $10k plus for the smallest megacity
also they share resources and I think buildings, so it's easier to build, share resources and get bonus
You can do mega without the landmarks too. Idk why you would, but I barely know anything yet so maybe there's reasons
@lusty mantle are u excited to join the PCMR?
If the lands are of different tiers.. still it will be applicable?
Yes
Nice
You just need to own a square
What I'm curious about is if you make deals with people in squares around you. Offer to alliance up. Then you can make giga cities and everyone benefits from everyone else's bonuses.
The what
Pc misfit race
Nice one !
arent u getting a PC?
The 1 wallet is an issue tho should really trust them might have more scams that way
He's replacing the one he smashed during Kyle's internal marketing meeting
I should be getting new computer 28th
its a PC right?
Mac
And then we get zero alpha?👀
Nah it's not a big deal. There's nothing new about that concept. I will likely host a couple myself.
oh dear
ew mac
I'm really stoked about this game! I just started checking it out a day or so ago. I was telling a friend I wish there was something like Dota auto chess type of game on chain and I can't believe I stumbled across this!!!! Like a dream come true!
All official dates will be posted in #📣〕announcements 😏
Device specs for playin IZ out yet?
There's a million ways to go about alliances. Having a treasurer who holds the properties is standard practice in many industries.
abstract megacity 3x3? lmao
IZ should be able to be played on a phone so don't think computer specs will be that high
Fraggy can you confirm that mega cities can go bigger than 3x3
4000 series will suffice
How the alliance would work tho ? U must have the same wallet to make it possible!
What's up with all the screenshots, I feel like @signal bear is here 
I can't, council would have to vote on that.
OK np.
I'd rather keep the alliance thing under wraps until. I get it figured out, then I'll make a video about it prolly.
On my way to subscribe you
what u subscribing them to?
I think I preferred it when ILV only went up. 😖
But now we can buy a ton more
@plain delta check your dm
he does, u dont hav to tag him, speaking from experience
Okay mate 🤝
If I have 2 plots of land in different areas does the fuel that is produced in each all enter into one “main account”? (Ex. I can use Solon fuel produced by land A, and use it to build or upgrade something in land B.)
good question , dont know tbh
Don't think so
It all goes to the same wallet
All fuel is sold to the DAO, and you buy it back. If you have a mega city, you can freely transfer fuel between adjoining plots
Think you will have to pay for the transfer. It's said that it works as a real city, if your cities are far apart, you have to pay shipping
And the point of a megacity is also to not have to pay for transferring resources
good morning fam

just create an account on someones and name it "Add User"
i dont know bout simba, but zazu is doing great xd
Did he finally retire from the pride lands?
yeah he joined mufasa in the fields of kings 😄
REMEMBER
Shit. I like that little squirt
Good morning and good Wednesday everyone
voxies cant move
ok
when moon?
have you heard of the restaurant on the moon?
Got to wave 18 and made the leaderboard for the first time 🎉
congrats
any tips, i typically get to only 11-12
if u rlly want leaderboard, jus play at the reset time for each day XD and try to get fast
are element counters important or the composition of the elements more impt
saw the project on instagram and decided to join, but late to here
late for what exactly?
game isnt even out, nor is economy, so ur def not late
idk what is happening now
that makes more sense ;]
its great time to learn, illuvium is just building rn
the lands are sold old, so what's next?
Illuvium zero alpha, openworld beta, so forth. The land is around mint or some lower too, so ur not late to buy those either
but it is pricy
plent of land on the secondary market some still at reasonable prices
you could always chill and get better deals. if u dont plan on investing, The free2play options wont be for a while, so you got alot of time to learn and such
ok
It would be a great time to pick up ILV at bargin prices and steak
Happy hump day champions, hope your week is going epic.... about to have a kebab so life is super sweet right now lol.... stay amazing
the game looks more promising than pixelmon tho
That's no challenge
there's a game called Pixelmon .......the comparison hurts
Pixelmon didnt even have a good game out, nor any decent gameplay. The creator bought the design off another dev xD
lots people got scammed by the project
but a NFT in goblintown is like kevin from pixelmon but better
Im still on meds after the iluvium land sale Im still trying to bring myself down from the high
well, i wouldnt call it a scam, more like a failed project. People didnt know what they were investing in, fomoed the dutch auction. Later realized its ran by a 19-21 year old kid, that doesnt have the experience, more on the investors fault. But yeah alot of ppl lost on that
still dating my rich neighbour's in crystal shores
Cheers bud. Don't think I'll be up there long. What time does it reset everyday?
I believe 12:00 UTC
00:00 UTC
my 2nd guess was gonna be 24:00 utc kek
15.5hrs left 😂😂😂 I'll definitely be off! Glad I took a screen shot 🍻
Still buzzing though. Only my 3rd day (deck) with the beta, my 1st time not referring to the help charts and my first attempt at today's deck. Happy with the progress and getting hooked on this game. Never played anything like it before
the beta is a ball buster ........not sure what the equivalent is for the girls ....but it daily kicks ya but
its now abot positioning .........iluvials on the board and timing
seee which iluvial can run away the fastest
The leeks make me extremely excited for overworld release
Trust is the word and the team have already earnd that many times over
What happen closed to being depressed
Everything is crashing fam, I’m losing all my money
The new overworld footage is... 🔥 Not ready to release yet, but we're excited to share.
@worthy juniper having a stream on Youtube, teaching everyone how to play the Alpha, go hard on comment and like 👍 show him some love
bruhhhhhhhhhhhh
can you wait until we filled our bags
😂 love that one, have to steal it lol
Wow didn’t think we’d see price again from when I first bought ilv
balancer reunion
Yo how are people in the beta get to wave 17 wtf :D im getting clapped wave 8-9everytime
Anyone panic dumping their ILV/ETH? Oh wait, can't do that if you're staked out-!
Am I allowed to post twitter links here?
That depends what is in the link 😏
Not sure how DAO handles these situation, but it’s one of the main concerns I’ve always had in the back of my mind and it has occurred, so I just wanted to link the scenario that has actually occurred.

Keep up the great work all. Game is looking amazing. Bear markets are where the real projects show their true value!
just dont look in market next 1.5 years. will sleep better. have fun with life, buy some coke and chips
Draft bill doesn't mean final bill FYI. Before people get too stressed, this is also the time when crypto lobbyist step in to rally for changes, etc.
It will be interesting to see unfold, but will still take a long time for their proper policy development and implementation
I understand. I just want some visibility into actual case-scenarios cause I always think of extreme cases. If I can’t link the twitter, the content you can google is:
Merit Circle DAO vs YGG Tim Conners
Ahh I think we're talking about different things! You're talking about the refund bit?
Pretty much! Huge stakeholder(s) doesn’t necessarily = good faith actors 😄 there was another case scenario that occurred some time ago for a different scenario.
either coke or gas
pick one
Haven't read that one yet - will be interesting
Have they already streamed overworld?
Not to the public
good, have not missed it
well we got a short video on december
Morning fam, and @lusty mantle

How have you been
hello!! gm
Stuff happening at work, we will see what happens
Hi guys, My name is Victor. I am from U.Today (top 5) Crypto Media. I have a business proposal for you. Could you pls share marketing email or say the right person whom i can discuss it with?
Dont get fired 😆
Check out the #❓〕faq
Not worried about that
Hope it all works out!
whats your job?
Geez, at least take me out on a date first
She does cosplay as sushi atlas
(819,318) im waiting ya at my land
to ban u
Hi Victor ru guys hiring?
i can push some pencils
im too old for kitchen hand
fluffers are always needed.
Never too old to clean toilets
Rude ! Ouch !
What is rude about that? I do NOT want to see your house
programmer . easy money
not if u got the smarts of a toaster
whats going on bros
its not hard, just need to learn a bit
thats anything in life xD
Binance is hiring 2000 people
guys some land plots being sold on penSea
nice
is it legit or scam
there is a legit collection
but not rlly worth trading on OS for the land
scam
Selling tier 4 for 0.15 eth
i rather rob elderly
thats probs a scam
Scam
Coinbase is firing that so
thanks guys
the legit ILV land on OS only has like 9 in the collection
OpenSea currently not even supported for land as is on IMX (L2)
You can take the wallet ID of the imx collection and paste into opensea to see the legit land collection
right
@lusty mantle i was so bad at the trivia with kieran, was about to cry
Oh don't cry, I don't think I knew anything
Haha
@lusty mantle opensea.io / collection / illuvium-land-v2 This is the legit OS collection right? Mint contract is the immutable x: bridge, its based on the ILV contract collections ID from ILV land on IMX (0x9e0d99b864e1ac12565125c5a82b59adea5a09cd)
It has a sale of 0.011 and another of 0.01 lol
If it is, that's freaking cheap 😄
thanks but I thought that they are limited and will finish at some points
right, theres no liquidity for it there, but all the address add up to legit
I wouldnt buy there mate
im not buying, nor is it about that, its about validity and providing the right info. Understanding etherscan and how things work is important too.
Ye true
Btw ETH is going to 400, im not buying anything these next few months
Fed is gonna destroy the whole market
Cant wait, im excited
You forgot NFA
hi all i am from shibabets community
Anyone else still buying ILV 😅 😆 ? Or did I play myself
Hopes it hits $1.2k-$1.5k again 
What’s this about initial investors having to relock after the initial locking period?
We were locked up through the ATH back in November/December now have to suffer being locked again? For the benefit of new users not losing value if things go tits up?
you can check on #809220563397902346 for the ongoing discussion. And having = no other option
what is the minimum videocard needed for this game?
The team is still optimising everything so there are no specs released for now
i see, thanks
Poor debate, it shouldn’t even be one.
ILV/ ETH pairs aren’t losing much value. It’s Eth that is bleeding out.
I’m an original investor, I had to sit through the ATH with all of my tokens locked up. Then the landsale happened before my tokens unlocked. I’ve already been shafted. Especially since the hack happened, if anything I’d have been better off not staking at all.
It’s a poor discussion, you can’t make fake promises then change them on demand to lower the risk of new investors.
You could have claimed sILV2 and get free land 🤷♀️
What exactly changed?
Why would I claim silv when I need to make my money back by earning rewards from ilv?
The price dropped stupidly after the hack
I’ve got nearly the same amount as my initial investment
And it will increase with the game
There has been no change, the IIP doesn't state a change and is just been discussed about locking
You know this is a long term investment right?
Because in the land sale sILV2 was valued as ILV. You are complaining you had no funds for the land sale.
The whole ordeal was that when your tokens unlock they still earn reward based on if you@leave them on the platform
They still do?
They do indeed, but new people want to change it to cover themselves from us all dumping if we decided too.
Why would anyone dump now?
They do?
Even if that changes that won't be implemented soon
Oh yeah I’m not worried about it
And you know how long soon is here
I’m just not seeing the point that to earn revdis in the future I’d have to lock again
After already putting a year into this project
Well i kinda get it but dont want it changed as well
Yeah of course, they want to make it more stable which is understandable and mitigate risks.
So you doubled the amount of tokens you had to begin with? Who doesn't like to double his bank account in 1 year? 😄
But I already went through the ATH and everything not being able to touch my tokens.
I more than doubled but that’s not the point
I’ve made a shed load of money from the project
I mean, I’m still above profit even in these times@
But you want more? 😄
But I don’t think it’s fair just because someone’s heard about this project last month, that I have to restake to earn.
The current IIP is mostly talking about the RevDis distribution schedule and parameters. No major changes are being proposed. Please see #809220563397902346 📌 for the IIP draft. Please note that the discussion section of the PDF is ONLY for discussion and not about things to be implemented now.
But what specifically do you want people to do about all this?
So we should make an IIP where they stop building and just hand over the money to the people that got here first?
I now should be able to earn rewards with my tokens jnlocked@
No just sell me my plot
ould the owner of 774,405 crystal shores please list it 🙂
I asked from the wromg plot earlier I bought it yesterday 😂😂😂😂😂
In terms of Eth value, Illuvium land plots have currently by far the strongest floor prices. 🦾
Not sure if I should be happy or sad about it ?! 🙃
same, without buying on seed or preseed or whatever
hi guys when will the initial seed investors' ILV be unlocked? Any specific date
15 days
30th
thanks man
But even then, most of us are going to leave our tokens on the platform as no one wants to sell at this price 🤣
that is great to hear
but i might be buyuing more on that date
same reasons
Might as well, perfect price to do so
just preparing my funds, 15 days is great
The price is now lower than when the staking platform wAs released
yea, i have staked ILV, tough man
but i have faith in this project
I will just keep buying
Oh yeah definitely
whats the whole cycle day range
Do we know something about the dev blog?
wen tier 5 land sale ?
No updates atm
How can we buy stuff for the ranger in game ? i don't find ..
Shift + right click
oh nice bro!! thank you
IM CRAVING SOME BETA RN
@lusty mantle now that im a ranger and i am not patient when can i expect the call for Beta... im gonna lose my mind
Last people got invited 2 days ago? So probably gonna take a few weeks
Can't do that with ETH. Checkmate, crypto.
This is blockchain ser, people would see. I don't accept bribes 😉
Not at all
I'll make sure to keep removing your name so you can relax and enjoy life
This is best time to invest.
My wife, son and the company i owm and run would love that . But if u do so... just know that i have a certain set of skill ...
how long does it usually take to withdraw eth from imx ?
i wish I had more money available to ape in ILV
It used to be up to 24 hrs .. dont know as of 2022
around 12h
Me enjoying other ppls illuvium beta gaming 😟
your turn will come bro!
I know i know ... im just bored af
yeah i understand :/
Can anyone tell me what council members are getting paid to actually do? The only member that has put some proper hours into being productive for the dao is deraji (aside from kieran). 5k a month to agree with the community sentiment on proposals which have been piss easy is an absolute joke and could be spent elsewhere to actually help development. Im sure there are some members who do behind the scenes, and if so why not make that work known? Because I have been here for nearly a year and still have no clue what the council do day in day out that warrants such a salary
The dao is suppose to make dessicion not to clean around ... so i guess as long as they make desicions ahey r doing their job
Hello to all, happy to come in the new community! And I hope I will be able to test thge game soon
!welcome
Welcome! Wondering where to get started?
The #🔗〕helpful-links and #814084157713940482 sections have everything you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information.
Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date:
U think this is a good use of DAO funds?
I ment the council
And yes... i have faith that the desicions for councils salery and eveything else is well earned .. as its not easy to be available 24/7 for a project and not be apretiated
Plus most members of the council bring with them bagage and networking so that along its worth
P.s not financial advice 😆
@mossy grove hey mate might sound harsh here but i wanna pursue whats best for the dao. Do you believe the work you have put in to the council has warranted $5k usd a month, with a total for you of 45k after this current epoch. If so, how many hours a day do you devote to the council? And what does this work involve exactly. Cheers
streemin in voice
Hello gals and guys vetemor here... you are the future and ill see you there
Wait I thought it was 5k per epoch (10k in this case)
Per month
Good morning, friends! How is everyone doing?
5k usd per month. The ICCP-1 which reduced it to 5k per epoch was shut down completely by then seated CMs
It is an absurd amount for the work required
thank god cd is gone in this channel
U probs could cos ur a popular youtuber tbh
Hahahah I did run for council and did well but it wasnt meant to be
I mean 5k a month is twice as much as I earn on my 9-5
Not trying to piss on anyone here but thats a sad state of affairs if popularity is the main reason for someone to be voted in
It is definetely a crazy salary when the only official responsibility is voting a couple of times
politics 101
Dude that a years salery where i live
It is. Council is a joke in its current state
I mean hasbi we have the ability to vote out anyone we want. If a council member isnt doing their job we are here to govern that. And there are some on the council that dont do much. I'd argue Vetemor is the most connected to the community out of everyone on the council
I have wondered how much better we would be if we used 25k a month for marketing and giveaways instead
Fat fingered. Good morning humans
We dont have the power to vote anyone out. Thats rested on the CMs. We only have the power to vote someone in.
I thought we could lynch council members?
sorry I just like the word lynch
Im not targeting a council member. The pay should be reduced as a whole and I trust vetemor may come forward and speak out against the amount the council is paid if he truly has the daos best interests in mind
played a lot of town of salem back in the day
He has mentioned this to me before, he always has the daos interests at heart
Nopes. CMs are the only ones who are accountable to each other. They vote on their pay, length of term, and who to kick out.
Hmmmmm yeah I think there are systems that definitely need improvement
Well the politicians we voted into the gov that failed the economy gets paid high for little work done
I think dick kings will handle a lot of it
Here is an idea... lets make a deutch auction for their salery and the community decides how low they get paid
That'll show them
I know you are kidding
but do you really want to underpay someone so important
I rather overpay tbh
What importance?
They are our direct line
Agreeing with community sentiment/kieran? Its not hard
without the council we have zero control
You think you have control over gov policies?
Dude if u know anything abt company boards u should know that they make the most with the least time invested ... but their desicions have impact and consecuenses so ... its not as easy
dont compare it to government please
U think the DAO should be paying 300k usd per year for the council?
wait till he finds out
No obviously not. But its not such a simple topic obviously
Theres several ways to look at it.
- Make their responsibilities commensurate to their pay and make them accountable;
- Have some type of minimum requirements to hold a seat;
- Lower their pay to be commensurate to current responsibilities;
- any combination of the above
Just ideas.
how many hours does it take to agree with Kieran?
I like the idea of more accountability
I think the council rn pre game launch will be unrecognisable post game launch. Making changes that may need to be reverted is a bit silly
yeah, regardless of whats proposed for CMs a mechanic for accountability should be in any of them
could write or suggest an IIP to change council wages but most likely it wont pass like the previous time when ILV was pumping high
I believe that the value of a council member is on what he/she can bring into the council. What have they done in the past or are currently doing? If the creators decided before to give a big payout to council members, then as long as they are happy with the council, why change it?
What is the value on them on council? Good question. What is the council doing day in day out? I couldnt tell ya
Im sure a lot of ‘behind the scenes work’
100%
Admittedly, Im sure theyre setting their own internal meetings or discussions on things but ultimately, whats asked of them by the whitepaper is to vote on proposals.
If we assume the council is a farce and only there for the legal deniability that the team wasnt just doing whatever they wanted to do. Then the question is how much does the DAO want to pay for this performance art?
its not a farce
Shouldn't this all be in #809220563397902346
But that's a double edged statement. If by some miracle we end up on the Council, why would we want to get a lower pay?
i think most former council members would disagree, maybe you will too at the end of your term
Well if u truly had the daos interests in mind you would probs feel guilty of the overpay and realise that money could be better used elsewhere. However I will not claim moral high ground, i would take the 5k a month and run, and that is why i do not claim to have the daos best interest in mind or run for council
Thats self serving. DAO should be deciding on what the CMs should be paid. Now say people are turned off by the pay then it might be a fair assumption that theyre only interested because of monetary benefit rather than to serve the purpose.
Coming from a corporate job, I never thought to ask the higher management what they do and why they get such a high salary.
One will lead to the other im sure 🤣
Cause youre an employee not a stockholder.
So what are we here?
This is far from a corporate enterprise if u havent noticed 😂
Investors which can be likened to a stockholder maybe?
True Hasbi. But I'm trying out different analogies. Since no one here is a certified DAO expert who can say, "this is the way it must be..."
when unlock?
My last job was in sales. So yes, I did give daily, weekly and monthly reports.
Pre-seed and seed tokens? June 30.
seed and preseed got pushed back i think? voluntarily*
It was originally MArch 30.
oh right thanks
Well those corporate higher ups probably worked for a degree and then worked several different roles to yhe top?
or was the child of the owner. COO lol
Any of you legends able to stream some game play in a bit?! Would love to watch while I have my coffee
If the wife lets me out of bed. I’m being forced to stay against my will 😅
Most probably. Which is why I mentioned that Council members are hopefully voted in based on what they did in the past or are currently doing, in order to add value to the council and devs.
I understand! I will keep an eye out on the server in case you manage to break free 🤣
Do stay, but no details hahahahaha!
Is their value/contribution to the dao worth what they are currently getting paid is my question.
The way I see it is like a mentor/mentee relationship. The Council is like a mentor and the devs are the mentee. So yeah, any amount, as long as mutually agreed, is ok.
What has the council done previously that has given u that impression?
I've never really looked at the council. They were just there since I joined. I vote when asked to vote, then go on my way. The closest I got to a council member is @split lintel and I did vote for him because of what he has done for our guild and Illuvium in general.
Ok, I'm back. Was fighting with my boss on the phone 😄
Also, do you not think they would provide the same value they are right now if we halved their salary? We could use that money for an extra dev or two and speed up developement
Oeh you have been active here
Or we can just tack on more responsibilities and accountability to them that would make the pay commensurate.
As i said, a mentor-mentee relationship does not work the same way. If the mentee offers a specific amount and the mentor agrees, then why not? What's also good is the council changes frequently, so newer minds enter and hopefully, fresh ideas.
Yeah id be keen to hear suggestions on what that might entail. Hard to put a number on hours when the whole team is built on the principle of being paid for efficiency which i agree with, regardless the council should be putting in some proper hours for 5k a month to make sense.
Same. Good use of dao funds andrew is 🤣
whts going on general
imma back read
average salary for USA is 5.7k a month. How much difference it is from council? Do we just pay the average? Do you have specific complains? Are you looking into other countries salaries as the expected salary in ILV project?
If anything, he should probably get a raise xd
Lemme know, tldr 😄
You think council works 40h / week?
Bad analogy. Employees work set hours and/or make money for that company. They have targets and KPIs to hit and are subject to accountabilities
yeah as if I really work the 40 hrs a week
Fraggy: enough with this leaks!!
Boss: I will leak whenever i want!!
Fraggy: You will not!!
Boss: I will!! I warn you Fraggy, dont limit my leaky side!!
Fraggy: OK!! You can make one leak a week!!
Boss: Imposible!! I will explode!!
Fraggy: Explode away!! I dont care, i need silence!!!!!!!!
Boss: I think i have to leak...
Fraggy: Dont you care!!!!!!!!!!
Boss:...
Fraggy: I warn you!!!!
Boss:...
<<Grand Warwick posts jpegs in #🚰〕leaks >>
Fraggy:...
Grant is not my boss 😉
Gleam giveaway winner announced??
All winners got contacted by email
If you say bad analogies, I'm just saying what are the facts to lead this discussion?
not announced twitter??
I imagine people don't like spending so much money on purple names that only show up when there is a vote (if you are lucky or they get enough pings to remind they have to vote)
is that 5k per month per person on the council?
so 75k per 3 months the DAO is paying 5 people, i guess it is wroth discussing?
maybe we can outsource it
Nope, don't think so-- emails were sent to the winners though 🙂
Definitely, did not get that from your average salary comment but heres where it all started:
I might be pulling these number out my arse, but I think the DAO has 2m~ish in funds? or funds enough for 2 years time, forget the wording, and 230k per year is going to the council, uff
We have to have guidelines of what we expect from them. And pay accordingly.
If there is no guidelines then we need them first, before we start discussing if they are doing less than expected
Think there is 24m in stables now
There is thru the whitepaper which just states they vote on proposals
According to him they probably get payed 50k, no idea where he gets his numbers
okay, never mind scoriox then 
So it needs to be addressed, evaluating someone against no guidelines is just an opinion. If it is well structured, it will be very easy to demand if they are doing or not there job.
As well, the pay needs to match the job description (activities)
Seems like people are mad at how much the council is paid
Yes, this comes back every 3 months. You'll get used to it.
Actually gonna be 6 months now
Yup in agreement with that. We either lower pay or tack on more duties and responsibilities. Easier to do the latter since CMs vote on their own salary
Personally I am not mad at what they are getting paid, however, if we look stricly through the interest of the dao, and not the livelihoods of people on the council, i think it is fair to say that the DAO needs a significant reason to pay 5 people 230k per year
wtf are you saying USA average salary isn't 5.7k at all
Feels like something I'm going to skip entirely. Politics aren't my thing
whats all this silv2 doing sitting here? https://etherscan.io/token/0x7E77dCb127F99ECe88230a64Db8d595F31F1b068?a=0x7a47f7707c4b2f2b1def04a47cd8681d48eadeb8
and I am not saying the reasons are not there already, I just dont know those reasons personally. Thinking, articulating and voting can be done by almost anybody
I believe average pay in the us is $20x”40hr”=$800x4wk=$3,200
Chilling
yeah that sounds more reasonable
Like a villain
So we agree all council members should give me 1k / month and we drop this?
Got my vote
Looked it up rather than just throwing numbers out 😂
Will be hard to be so inactive with me council pay 
yep
If council members want to keep 5k I'd like to see some indepth analysis of what they are bringing compared to who could be hired otherwise
How about they should get paid as much as a lead mods :)
You think they work as much as lead mods?
I'm not sure anyone planet wide works as much as lead mods in a server like this
i think lead mods are here 23/7
You know I don't think that 
Nah that's also not true 🙂
so its 24/7 then
Shit I’d be a council member and take 3k. Vote for me next time and I’ll tell you what I accomplished in the month
lead mods love their job so they never work a day in their life.
🤣
Said noone ever
yeah, tell that to the "wen" people
speaking off, fraggy, wen t5 auction
Hmm maybe I should run again in 6 months and just already say "I don't want to get payed extra for this".
Fraggy are you an elected official
No
Who are the elected peeps
#📣〕announcements look for the election results
Vetemor
Deraji
Sheep
Santiago
Kieran
there were hanging chads
I thought Kieran owned the place lol
He is a co-founder but also got voted on the council
you can delete bruh 😆
Less fun that way
Kieran has no power here muahahahah.... when he is on on the council x,x
I own my mistakes
I like the cut of your jib
Lol
For council, people have to vote you in, its not a job perse
I think y’all woke up sir Grant as well as sir Kieran…
they sleep?
They just don't sleep
I mean, politicians only mingle with their peasant voters during election times, and then they're back to jerking off with lobbyist money.
So
Depends who it is, he seems like he has a brain. I think he is there for a reason for it, so best you don’t question. To get in there you’ll need to be known in the community
I have no idea what you just tried to say
That’d be an awesome super power
So unhealthy
You indirectly asked why he is in the council
No, don't think I did.
But if you didn’t need to imagine what we’d accomplish
He is just asking as people want to see more activity on council
You tagged the wrong buck
Get a 3th job
I think I did hahaha
Btw guys make sure to tag @near pier a lot today. Freaking using me for his trivia questions
It was a great Trivia tho
I keep missing trivia :(
we will have a new time next week
GET HIM
Wen?
Cool, maybe I'll be able to remember this time
I can stay up for the current time, I just forgot twice in a row
If you click "inetested" once the calendar invite goes up it should ping you for trivia
I coulda swore I did

The market is so bad people want CM salary cut
cmon man we know its a charade, it's the illusion of democrazy.
ps: ill do the charade for free just saying
And I still wouldn't vote for you 
It's hard finding people who don't want to do it, but would do it really well if asked super nicely.
you couldnt wouldnt vote for me because i wont nominate myself
will u do it for free?
lol
It's ok boss, muted him
3rd time the charm
wb
How can i help you good citizens
*3rd RD
Ok so next time we move up from 1 min to 5 min
Nooo
its like 5th but 3th
Did she say "Daddy"?
Is it wrong?
da daa
Papa
damn i got a tmj
Why are we tagging @humble trail
Because i am cool
cool @humble trail
Hail the Mr Trivia
Congrays garf
When will you aim for the role?
what role
The Acid green one
Garf TM
Trivia master? Im baked most of the time
Sounds good right?
why would i compete with the god all knowing infoluvial
It's more like Shamrock green... allllll luck 🍀
can i get Troll Master role instead?
Aw. The shamrock emoji isn't even the same green
Are you saying he got lucky?
Thats a pretty good fit indeed! 😄
That's called "Lead Moderators"
Hey rem

When you streaming next
Remi gonna do Hottub stream on Twitch

No?
@lusty mantle wanna switch jobs xd ?
@fading hatch what happened to merit circle cant find it on twitter
These numbers don't seem to be adding up 😅
That's the quote that used to be on all my math tests. Right here.
wdym
Hey zazu. What's the report
Based
Bump. Just wanted to make sure we have visibility and the team has formed a conclusive opinion on it.
play on a ps5 all day and try to find reported bugs 😄 since you where fighting with ur boss earlyer lets switch 😂
report?
well we have a lovely day 23 degrees celcius, A small sliver of fear in the market, some fudspreading degens on discord. But for the rest everything is fine ser
its just sitting there, we should either burn it or use it?
Hello🤝
Copy that zazu thank you. Hyenas are after pride rock again
i will send out fraggy to deal with the hyenas they piss themselves only thinking of her 😄
No thanks
wow
The community rugged YGG by forcefully buying out their token allocation at lower price because 'they didn't contribute enough lmao' even though the team said they have good communication with YGG
There are different unlocking schedules based on which vested tokens you're looking into.
There's a pretty good explanation pinned in the #💰〕token channel.
Link here: #💰〕token message
@zenith fable have fun at the after party. Wish I could be there
I'm not at NFT NYC unfortunately
Robbie & James Ferguson are having talks there tho
Not too fussed to be honest, always will be many other events and future years 🙂
Yeha just wait until next year when blizzard sells blizzcon to immutable.
So we know the exact mechanics of land leasing yet? I'll sign an nda, idc. I just need to get to work on this tool asap
How do we know the game can guarantee the 210 % apy
Where are the returns coming from, that’s why I’m worried that our locked ilv eth might not be safe ?
Where did you find that number
The slp pool is giving that
Hey guys can anyone help me understand $SILV2? Like, whats the purpose of it and why would I buy it instead of $ILV
DAO could be the end of a project
Blizzard is too busy cashing in on games like Diablo Immortal to worry about getting into this space.
Yep
sILV-2 FYI
Buying silv-2 has nothing to do with the DAO
the sILV-2 token can be officially used within the illuvium ecosystem no mater how its obtained
You need DYOR to find any information about unofficial pools and unofficial value graphs
-** sILV -2 is NOT an official investment and it was never intended to be traded or speculated**.
- the only OFFICAL way to get SILV v2 is though staking rewards <--------------------------
- Illuvium DAO will NOT be making an official pool for sILV-2.
- to find a unofficial sILV -2 pool exists DYOR to find it
- the official sILV-2 contract can be found in #🔗〕helpful-links
- just because ERC-20 token DOES NOT inherently make it "officially tradable"
FYI: Trading sILV -2 will
- be unofficial
- not be supported by the DAO
- be at your own risk
- have inherent risk
ILV: it is a governance /staking token ( RevDis & yeild farm passive income) You can't buy anything with ILV
**Fuel ** will be the main currency when the game starts . You buy Fuel with ETH only
sILV-2 (** the illuvium gift card**) officially only obtained though staking rewards choice is the token you can use as an Alternative to fuel it can be used for any non Fuel ( you cant buy fuel with it) non player ( you cant buy anything off another player with it) in game fees , or equipment costs.
sILV-2 will always = <market price> ILV
As well as Official events the admins deem it eligible ( like #🎮〕illuvium-zero Land sale or Illuvitar sale )
ETH : - fuel and anything other player related off the illuviDex (not yet released)
Hey. I have 2 questions about the future of lending:
- Will there be some requirements to lend land, like activity? Could be frustrating if someone lends land, but will be inactive after some days.
- Will Illuvials also be lendable?
isnt blizzard owned by microsoft now?
yield farm
they mint new token for stakers
as for Renting land in #🎮〕illuvium-zero I would not expect anything right away .
Johnny | Illuvium — 04/21/2022
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message
I would not recommend account sharing
ideally we will tie sharing/renting/etc in to all kinds of systems like friends, guilds, etc...** but its not a priority right now**
For overworld other than some comment that it will be available nothing has been confirmed Illuvium devs are making anything "in house"
Polemos may have a solution for you sooner although there is no eta for this or details on how exactly it will work but Polemos is developing a smart contract automated nft staking system and removing the manager role completely you can find out more in the white paper #899655780033261639 message
Alright, thanks a lot! 👍
so if its not supported by the official game why did we have an option to buy land with it? This is so confusing
If they don't yet they will soon. Deal was made a few months back.
its explained in the explanation.......
its was alternate reward intended for stakers only to be used as a gift card in the illuvium ecosystem that's why you can buy land and other in game non fuel non player related purchase
Thanks bud
One las question if I may
Nevermind haha I think I got it😅
So renting mechanics aren't available yet.
Where can i read the proposal regarding staking and revdis changes?
Pinned in #809220563397902346
nothingas far as illuvium howevery if you look at the Polemos white paper there is a " blueprint" of sorts that hasd a description on how it will work
Guys, if i`m in a (Beta_Entrance) list. What should I do? Am I a beta-tester or something else?
Well I can't work off of third party speculation. So my original statement maintains relevance lol
You likely are not in the beta
Where can I find some information?
Hang tight
You will receive an email to download PB1
if selected
ok, thanks a lot
Yeah I can't find the post that has all the beta req and sign up info
Need this bad boy to spit it out
!beta
Secret information 👀
there is no info on #🎮〕illuvium-zero rentals land because as previous post it has not been confirmed in devolvement yet.
Yall prolly took it down since there's not gonna be another round of beta invites.
99% sure I saw a literal Dev on video talking about renting land to people being a built in feature.
DAYUMMM the beta is cool , tbh i wasnt expecting such good graphics and no bugs , i still didnt get the synergies and elements right , but wow , really wow
Johnny | Illuvium — 04/21/2022
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message
I would not recommend account sharing
ideally we will tie sharing/renting/etc in to all kinds of systems like friends, guilds, etc...** but its not a priority right now**
iposted this previoly this is the offical illuvium dev.
Not eveything you see in a ama
Yeah you've posted that 4 times now
well if yyou saw it before thennn......???? what else do you need help with..
For the 5th time, that statement is irrelevant to my question
Kieran tweeted about this
you answer is no and there may not be info for an unknowjust becase a de4vs says somthing does not mean is 100% offical or going to happen it may even be dropped.
Again it doesn't even remotely answer the question I asked solar

is the email I received regarding open beta legit?
Maybe
If you log in on the website, you can also see if you have access or not.
So renting mechanics aren't available yet.
@Taylor Shawn | YouTube
So renting mechanics aren't available yet.
no they are not avaiilable
they are not even being officially developed yet
there is no eta when they will be devopled
just becase you herd somthing some where does not make it set in stone fact.
yup I do
Ah my poor sweet summer child. You are new here. 
it came from beta@illuvium.io
That would be the official domain 🙂 Congrats!
Solar is big on if its not in #📣〕announcements then its not official. Even if the founder himself who tweeted it out.
Well he is right, it's not ready yet. I like like to watch Solar making friends
btw all official launch dates will be posted in #📣〕announcements
mabey becase it not?
Rebel bots guild ay. Alright
Not saying it is or it isnt. Just stating facts on where you stand on these things 🙂
I think the miscommunication was my fault. I didn't specify that I was asking an actual Dev. And I also didn't specify exactly what information I needed. So my bad solar.
I have no problem taking responsibility
He's new.
it ok but what i told you was accurate if your waiting for a land rental system build exclusively by illuvium you'll be waiting a long tome as it been said by the illuvium dev who working on it it not a priority was just trying to help.
OK thank you
👀
why the nft price be tanking every day
Go to tradingview and look at the BTC chart
I slept and forgot if I asked. Fraggy. 3x3 is the largest mega city size currently approved yes?
I'm not even sure 3x3 is already approved tbh 😛
What about a 4x4
I'm sure that's not approved yet
O.o man.
Did you receive the mail today?
actually it was few days ago. I only just asked now
I think they have been send out 2 days ago
We need the CRYSTAL SHORES article. Only region left!
It may never come 👀 Or if it does, I assume it will be a pretty barren article...
why?
I See. I was full of hope, that the ppl who filled out the pinned Form, were already going to Be invited.
Congrats anyways
I want to see what zero looks like for shardbluff I feel like it’s going to be sexyyy
Crystal Shores is intentionally left quite the mystery-- I think that may be a land we will be required to explore when the game launches if we want to see what it has to offer (as opposed to the art being fed to us in an article).
I could be wrong about that, but it seems to be the general "vibe" from the team whenever Crystal Shores comes up. The livestream between Andrew and Rogier covering all the regions had a veryyy short segment on Crystal Shores haha
Got it, but it would be nice to have that article, even a barren one... some concept art and description... even if they don't put the map, like the others...
I personally like that Crystal Shores has all of this mystery and would prefer to not have the article, myself! 😄 But maybe I'm weird
Ah but was this said in #📣〕announcements? 😋
Bro my chameleon wildin
maybe we will play till 2025🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
Crystal Shores is full of crystal meth. Mystery solved
Is that why Kieran is so silent?
Can you build a sketchy lab in your dirty garage on your plot there?
i got a better idea, build a mobile meth lab and park it in the middle of a desert

Fraggy can I dm you
My DM's are open
@lusty mantle where is your land located?
That should be easy to guess
Yeee I feel stupid, of course you wanna snag Atlas
Pls whats sILV2 contract ?
Should be in #🔗〕helpful-links
@plain delta Can I dm you sir?
@split lintel I've got a T3 89% land 🙂 Thanks for the calculator!
Can i still use sliv2 for the Next Land Sale?
yep
Thanks
and for illuvitars, and other in-game purchases.
Okay thats Sound Great than i will use the actuell price to buy it
Instructions unclear
There’s no illuvials there just Walter and Jesse
Welcome back
How was it
Wonderfull tbh, was so long since I wasn't on a pc day and night
You can but I sometimes ignore people.
Np man I don't blame you
And just like that we're back to reality 👀
The opportunity to send me all your lands
Ok, I'm gone again then
where hav u been
just the usual market crash
and some politics
how horrible of you
Hi,

sup mates, can't find illuvium lands on open sea. They are available only on Illuvidex?
is that really allowed cuz if i was @lusty mantle i would not be allowing that, but thats just me tho 🤷🏿♂️
Correct
and token trove but then have to pay a bit more in fees
Should not try to compare yourself with highly intelligent AI
Shi mb wont happen
SORRY
OMG THERE IS NO CHAT TIMER
how did i not see that
such a w
Immutable X market also, but at the Illuvidex is a little cheaper.
@warm hemlock @warm stag @gentle egret thanx mates!
How to transfer my Assets from Metamask to Ledger?
just be carefull with this one, if someone offers you to help thru DM, its like 99,9% scam
Pls reply this
scoriox done a vid on yt. using token trove
what assets do you mean exactly? ETH, ILV, land, staked ones?
good point. i just presumed they were on about land.
lets see what we are dealing with here ^^
ahh, so i would go with mobbsy's advice
then yeah check out scoriox on youtube. he done a tutorial vid, using website called token trove.
ya ez on tokentrove. Search for the "Transfer Token" function
whos mobbsy lol
your uncle
must be a legend
good ol' Mobbsy
Can't i transfer via illuvidex or immutable x?
so no tier 5 sale
i have 2 eth to spend to try to get the tier 5 land
i think i have a good shot
That bug bounty thing is a great idea
max 2.5
no tier 5 ?
a marketing tactic to try to drive the price of tier 5 to the max potential. let hype die down and let people collect more eth so we can drain them again
im just saying yall no need for all this. im a serious buyer of tier 5 but i dont see what the wait is about
Security
Andrew, head of marketing, did say in an interview they wish they could have sold those T5 plots right after the main sale event. With the hype it would have been fantastic. It's really all about security
Security is the most important factor, so audits getting 2nd look i believe
Not that im aware of.
Game is going to be released this year ? Thats for 99,9% ?
Nothing is announced yet
Look #📣〕announcements for futur announcements about this
Italy
I wish I knew how to code
Oh there’s goes gravity
Can't be that hard, they hired @fierce vine
Won’t give up that easy
I am going to bring some people here to invest dont want to say something wrong thats why i am asking :))
Always soon
Hey
It's true
Gm! Why ILV has crashed?
it has not
It’s a glitch
Look at the BTC chart 🙂
Fuck yes
Really wasn’t that long ago when I was buying at $700
Really looking forward to the opportunity to cost average down hard
When was that ?
Might sell the wife and kids for some eth
Im sure they will understand. You can buy them back when your new assets appreciate lol
I know right they have to understand. Ima go see how much I can get for them at a pawn shop
GM fella's!

Sell the wife now .. and get it later with twice the kids.. lol