#💬〕general
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Yeah market value does matter
i think it will take of real quick once open beta arrives, once it hits more viewers and active streamers on twitch/youtube things will go real quick
this would make a market cap of 30b
Illuvium is not meant to be just a single game but a gaming ecosystem that this DAO wants to develop to such a level that it can compete with gaming juggernauts like Blizzard, EA or Riot.
In 2020 Activision Blizzard's annual revenue was 8 Billion USD. At the time of writing this, their Market Cap is 64 Billion USD with a small dividend yield of 0.50 percent.
Illuvium offers 100% revenue distribution to ILV token holders according to their stake and with a max supply of 10 Million ILV to ever get minted, the revenue per staked ILV will increase with every additional game released.
wait for email within 24 hours
how to become a Ranger on the cord?
Marketcap is one thing but look we reached 2K$ with a trailer...
sweet
be active on discord
its a manual process so it may take longer

Ok HODL on
haha
Suit up astronaut
@long shell do you have a lot of ILV then ?
Illuvium is the first big AAA blockchain game that I’ve seen. I’m excited.
Stupid question: If I got selected to take part in the beta, how do I? The play.illuvium page just says I've been successfully registered still
You will get an email and need to follow the instructions.
Ah ok thanks. Don't seem to have got it yet so will keep an eye out
if you got selected today they mentioned it will take 1-3 days
can take up to 24hours i think
Nevermind
i have some
Ahhhh gotcha. Thank you. I'm happy to wait, not so happy if I was just too low IQ to figure out how to join:P
not enough to be rich xd
Maybe baby
Personaly I am looking for a good window to buy sILV2.. few days ago was a good moment. Let's see if I can find a window after land sale and before open beta mm
why not take ilv ?
3-4days ago is the best time, same here, i didnt expect it would hover around 250 ish
sILV2 to use for buying land
1 sILV2 = 1ILV buying power
Ilv makes more sense for who wants to invest a lot I would say (but I will invest on my player skills)
Gm
Who knows maybe it's enough to win a T0 tournament to be able to compete in other tournaments 😉
Gm
it will prob drop of again after landsale is done. time to stack up again before the next sale
you can check if your name is listed #📣〕announcements for the chosen beta tester, and for the email it would take more or less 24hrs to receive the email
Yes, my name's on the list - just wasn't sure on the next steps:) But waiting is something I can do, I've done it long enough with Illuvium already
Yeah because to pay land in silv2 is the best option
24hrs is a short time though we all waiting for the day where we can play the game
Totally!! You have my blessings sis 💪😎
anyway congrats and enjoy the beta, i envy you 
Thank you, hopefully I can be of some use - I work in game design on another NFT project so might be able to bring some useful knowledge to the table
still no news reg lands right?
Hopefully will come out within 24 hrs
by playing the close beta and reporting the bugs/glitch found is already a huge help, anyway what NFT project is that?
waaaa
Gm Gm
(More info)
sorry to ask but there is any news about lands sale ?
More info hopefully within 24 hrs
Not yet.
not yet. but expected within 24hrs
I hope they open more beta slots
They will have open beta eventually it sounds like
there is another batch
@harsh tartan is ur pfp directed at illuvium closed beta 😂
Profile pic
yes it is directed to the closed beta 😄 let me innnn
Hahaha
but i forgot im just a lurker for almost a yr and havent got ranger role lewl haha
Stoked to hear when the land sale will be!!!!
Haha. Same, mate.
Yep I feel, have been a lurker here for a while
Ranger role is easy ! What about higher roles ? 🤔
Where ur ranger role den 🤔🤔😉
i waited for so long, the only regret i have is i only bought a few coins from the public sale, which is the price manage to drop @ 80$ or even lower
Land sale date?
Soon ahah, give me a couple of days ;)
announcement within 24h
expected this week and they will announce within 24hrs
That’s still a good roi, I’m still waiting to buy my first ilv
Oh awesome! thank you
cant buy land cuz i all in lock everything to ILV and SLP for 12months
been watching some streams, i was wondering what the yellow bar was on the left of the hp bar
Ahhhhh shoot
That's Hyper 🙂
and what does it do?
i really love how the community reacts to the game, i guess all if not most of us love ILV
It can’t come soon enough:)
When filled, it empowers attacks and omega abilities in different ways. Illuvials gain hyper if you're effectively countering the affinities of your opponent's Illuvials with your own.
knock on my van at 7am like a psycho to wake me up and give me a ticket
Definitely one of my top most anticipated games.
deffently have high expectations
Once is released it will be hard to keep a good "play-life" balance 🤣
like thats something new lol
Which one is better? Land or ILV staking?
Hopefully it’s not something you have to spend like 10 hours a day on to get good illuvials
I need more play in my life balance
no just a thick wallet 👀 😂
i need more cash, and less play time maybe we can work something out here 
Not new but... well I kinda avoided big games during university. Crypto gave a good reason to invest more in the nerd side of me xD
Good call 👍 i took the opposite direction 🔥 
Omg i made it into beta 😱
gz 🎉
If play-life can simultaneously be work life, just call me a workaholic 😉
Ty fren 🤝
does NDA verification really take long?
Haha. So true.
That's the hope 😋
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
Why 😂
If I could quit my job and be a full-time crypto gamer, that would be the dream.
bc scoot told him its how to become a ranger
dont know why he wants to be a power ranger instead of a big bad beetle borg
Between various yield farming methods and actual game play, I sincerely think GameFi will make this happen.
I completely agree. Btw, like your “GodOverGov” tag. Is that a guild name?
the sad part is that 4 of us (my friends) only me who havent got the beta (2ndbatch), guess gotta raid them to play
And you shouldve participated more in the discord mr Survivor. ^^ obvious that you didnt get in without the role!
I think im almost level 5
You are a ranger already!
I expected there were more rangers in discord
yeah I gave someone 5 bucks
Wp
gm
but im not 5 level yet hahaha
how to be ranger?
Speak
You need to be level 5
Message about 100x and youll be a ranger. If you spam, you will be muted.
ok thanks!
Instead there are about 2000 rangers now
X D, Speak2Earn, new kind of game boys
good luck fam
how to see my current level?
#👑〕bot-commands
Go to #👑〕bot-commands type !rank
oh I need 2 more levels
hi
Ok
Land Sale will not be limited to 1 per player, true?
u can do it, just being active is more than enought
True 🙂
yeah also everyone seems cool
i want a t1 so bad for myself
t1 ones are the empty ones am I wrong
t0 is free version
play and learn brother
you cant earn from t0
give us access so that we can test the t1 lands :p
only from tournaments!
Really? There was a minimum requirement to be a ranger? What were the req
Hey all
tournaments from t0 land?
so if we reveal a t0 its good morning vietnam
10M tokens is the max supply right?
Whats the sILV2 supply right now anyone have it handy?
sry thought you were talking about t0 illuvials, no tournaments for t0 land announced "yet" 😜
Y'all are talking about different games I think 😛
we dont know what we are talking about I'm too high rn
wen email
where can I see the current starting prices for different tiers of land?
If I remember correctly, the max ILV supply is about 7m, once you take sILV minting into account.
I will auto-eat some food then sleep
do i have to apply for beta testing?
10M is the max supply. There are about 250K sILV2 claimed thus far that will reduce max supply by that amount. Most likely over the next few years of claims we'll end up somewhere between 7-8M total ILV tokens.
See y’all tomorrow
Wow
Cya Cyolopa!
you know the drill
That’s 🔥 so bullish
Cya saya @tidal ruin
Max ILV is 10 million. Theoretically if all stakers took sILV2 out of rewards then there would only be 7 million ILV because when sILV2 is taken as rewards sILV2 is burned.
Yep. That’s pretty much what I remembered.
Since which date sILV started minting?
I think it’s up to like 500,000 sILV2 that has been claimed now so true max supply of ILV is closer to 9.5 Mil
Really the amount that matters to most people is max staked ILV, so I’d say closer to 7m, rather than 8m.
Staking been up slightly over 1 year
Thank you for the info
I believe there are almost 2 years left to go
Hi guys, is Illuvium on polygon network for transactions?
By that time the hope is revdis keeps the engine running
Nope
What is it on? Surely can’t make lots of quick transactions on Eth
IMX… layer 2 of ETH
It will be on IMX
Are there any games at the moment operating on IMX?
I was playing Coolpets and it’s unplayable for engagement, not quick enough
Roughly 14-15% of rewards have been claimed as sILV2 thus far. I think it's a reasonable stat to extrapolate over the remaining 1.4M yield rewards, which would leave us with a total supply of about 9.5M ILV once YF has finished.
During Land Sale will bids be made public in real time?
Bids are purchases in a DA format, and you will be able to see when plots get sold.
Gods unchained and guild of guardians I think
will they be listed tho so that it's easy to access past sell prices?
Much appreciated
It’s actually just my common user name, but BTCo is a project of mine, and once I started that, I made that my primary discord identity. I kept the username for recognition
Yes
I will assume people will use sILV2 in the upcoming sales as well so maybe the supply will shrink even more by. The end of YF
I haven't seen the UI in detail, so I'm not sure if we'll have to rely on blockchain data or whether that information will be collated in the Illuvidex.
Either way, it'll be publicly available, as all transactions on ETH are.
ye just need some search if not on UI, tyvm as usual Blickter ❤️
Cool. I might check it out
Supply is already close to zero I heard
That's certainly a possibility. But then once Illuvium actually launches, there could be a bunch of stakers out there with the intention of claiming sILV2 so they can use that to pay for their in-game transaction costs... rather than using their own ETH.
I don't personally expect the sILV2 claim rate to increase, as there is added value in ILV holdings once revdis starts. Only time will tell for sure though.
Just my thoughts exactly adding that on top I think supply will shrink considerable from the 10M right now
Yep. Then if you are guesstimating total staked supply. Knock some off for lost tokens and some more off for people who just never stake their ILV. I prefer cautious forecasts, but 7m - 8m isn’t going to be far off.
Considering over half the YF rewards are already distributed, I'd be shocked if sILV2 claims exceeded 20% of rewards, which would leave us with a total supply of 9.4M ILV at the end of YF.
True as well. Will be a thought decision if you are actually a gamer and plan to use it as well. Decisions decisions…
Do 3 T1s beat a single T3 land in revdis?
me waiting for my beta access email... ^^
Over half? Oh my bad I though it was like 1/3 of it
Land doesn’t earn rev dis.
You can earn money selling fuel, but that’s different.
Ah yes. But then in terms of gas then?
Yes, I play Gods Unchained
Gotcha. That’s awesome and makes a lot of sense.
Plus other things as well
Smooth? Also, are there lots of transactions etc
If I had that choice I would go with one T3. Personally.
It's not a linear distribution. We're about 1/3 of the way into YF, but over 1/2 of the rewards are distributed.
Well to check transactions (it's easy and fast to do) just go to "tokentrove.com" and press rankings. Not sure what you meant with "smooth"
I’d like to play closed beta, but I got as far as the question about what graphics card do you have. Looking at my trusty 10 year old computer… hmmm. Guess I’ll wait for the open beta lol.
Trueeee! Thanks for bringing clarity to my brain
When you do a transaction is it instant? With Coolpets it takes like 10 seconds
In the Land Sale proposal that was passed, found in #📰〕governance-news there's a chart showing the number of fuel sites each tier has... and then on top of that, T2-T5 get an additional boost in the production of resources as well 🙂
Content creator @split lintel just did an amazing vid explaining this https://youtu.be/XgwO8waEp24
Illuvium Staking is a very difficult concept for many to understand but in this video, I help you decide if you should claim ILV or sILV2. I have done all the difficult calculations for you so you don't have to. Never claim the wrong rewards again when using Illuvium Staking.
Illuvium is an NFT crypto game that is Play to Earn. It is built on t...
To much excitement waiting for land sales 😅
Yes, it is:)
I agree.. the only way it might go higher than 20% is if the land or illuvials are selling for a lot of money in the market.
Working fine, little lag on a 2018 iMac with GeForce graphics card
Any of the lucky rangers got the beta yet?
Is there a date for the drop yet?
No but very very soon we will hear
Which card model?
Yeah, or if somehow revdis is low but sILV2's secondary price (and ILV's price) is high. There's some scenarios that incentivize claiming more sILV2 for sure.
I have to look. But on my 3050 i7 PC I had some bugs here and there like the entire board hex grid disappeared lol @agile tapir and I LOVE that toggle option idea if they could @little flax
Indeed! I would only claim sILV2 by misclicking 😆
That’s not a bug, that’s a feature. 😆
Has there been a date for the land sale?
It is in my eyes
It looks amazinggggggg
Announcement today
Addicting like everyone said 
I was one of the chosen for beta access. Where do I dl the game?
Looks good! Did you just get in the beta today?
I’ve had it
Enjoy it^^
What will it be priced in?
hey, is the emails still going out?
If you were recently selected, your account may not be ready or set up yet-- you should receive an email once it's ready though. Then next steps would occur when you log in to the website 🙂
how’s the game set up
Need to wait for an e-mail with instructions I think. I'm also waiting.
like axie, using the cards to battle ? or……
Join a guild like my ShinyShards ✨ and learn more , everyone in guilds are discussing it 😁
Okay, guess I'll wait. Thanks
!gameplay
Illuvium is a collectible NFT RPG game, and auto-battler rolled into one. There is an open-world RPG experience in the overworld, where you mine, harvest, capture, and fight Illuvials.
Once you have assembled your team, you can join the fray in the auto battler, where you strategically build your teams to beat your opponents in battle. The Illuvials possess unique stats, classes, and affinities. Your team's synergy—based on how you match their strengths and compensate for weaknesses—could mean a winning streak for you.
Think Pokémon meets TFT
Yeah thats what I tell my friends ^
Dutch Auction-- starting prices are set in ETH and that chart can be found in the proposal that was passed: #📰〕governance-news
But you can spend either ETH or sILV2 when purchasing the land plots in the sale 👍
Is the price of tier 1 land going to change?
you think I can get land for 1k?
Oh so it is a dutch auction nice! Im correct in understanding the price can infact go under the starting price
That's what I can pay🙏 Idk if it'll dip that low
Starting price is set at 2 ETH.
The way the Dutch Auction format works is that ALL of the plots prices are going to rapidly decrease every minute (for up to 2 hours) while they are listed... until someone decides to buy them 🙂
What pisses me off playing is is some Illuvials don’t go after the enemy that’s closest. For example, Ramphye pops behind your Sear and destroys him because your Sear doesn’t turn around to fight, he’s focused on goin after someone across the board
Can we see how many are being bought live? And how many are left
Every minute the price decays by 2.5%, so it's extremely likely that the sales price for land plots is less than the starting price.
Yeah, I know. I thought Kieran said he might propose to change tier 1 land pricing cause people thought it was still too low
Thats how assassins work in auto battlers 🙂
Here’s a tool for thinking about how the auction will look. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message
Certainly possible-- with the current token prices, you can see how the prices will look during the sale in the pinned spreadsheet found in #🎮〕illuvium-zero
@near pier maybe talk to Aaron and make a beta bugs report or discussion channel ? 
Still most epic bug 🙃🤣🐸✨
Anything could change by proposal, but at this point I kind of hope/think prices shouldn't change, since the starting price information has already been sent out to the community etc. There's also a pretty logical progression of starting prices based on each Tier's Fuel output. Any change should be done by IIP though, so if there is a proposal to change T1 prices, there will be time to submit feedback about the proposal.
As of right now, there's not a proposal active to do any of this.
Wish they actually went into battle
Thats amazing
Surely they won't change the prices this close to the sale.
I would think not, an issue like this would have been best brought up when the council approved the pricing IIP. It IS possible though.
Are the amount of players limited by the amount of fuel being produced on land? What if more people want to explore than the amount of fuel produced
I feel like the team will implement a display for something like that... I mean, makes sense to me to have it. But I'm not sure it is confirmed. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong about that though
ok I hope so
I also hope it don’t, it make the project look a little unprepared or disorganized for the people that will be coming in if changes are made last minute
not a bad idea...
for now posting bugs in the illuvium discord publicly tho is probs not the way
also you can always do a bug report within the game itself
There are 100k total plots of paid land, and only 20k are being sold in the first sale.
Without some weird shenanigans, that means only 20k people can play IL:Z AND earn from it (until more land is released in later sale).
Everyone can play IL:Z on T0 virtual (unpaid) land, but T0 land cannot earn.
Note that none of this affects people's ability to play Illuvium's main title and earn from it.
Yeah or report directly to me or support@illuvium.io
No I mean since fuel is used in the main title to explore - and there is a limited amount of fuel being produced from the land - wont that limit people's ability to explore if a bunch of people wanted to do it at once
95% of fuel is produced by the DAO itself, only 5% coming from the land people, there will never be a fuel shortage...
The DAO tap can and will mint more Fuel if demand exceeds the output of land. People might pay more for travel etc. under the current economics, but at no point will people be unable to play because there's "No Fuel".
oh. damn
good to hear
Yeah, that's one of the main reasons the DAO tap supplies a majority of Fuel. That would be a nightmare scenario for 99% of players in a mass adoption scenario, having gameplay held hostage by land owners who refuse to sell Fuel 😛 The team has done a really good job thinking through scenarios for stuff like this.
Oh gawd-- that would be...
interesting?
I also LOVE that they used the wrong word on that GIF caption
How to join beta ?
u pray 😂
You can register for beta on the Illuvium website, in the "Play" tab. After that, it's a waiting game.
What happens to the profits that the DAO gets from fuel?
You can apply on the Illuvium website!
A link can be found in #🔗〕helpful-links as well 🙂
The profits are ETH, which go to the vault, are used to buy ILV, and that ILV is distributed to stakers. Basically, normal revdis mechanisms apply to revenue.
Bullish on ILV
I can check the total number of sILV2 in etherscan but how can I see the number of it that have been bought or the remaining left ?
u have great vid on official Illuvium yt channel where kieran talks about economics
I've spoken with a dev about this, he said they have it on their radar, it's just not very high priority right now
Usually in auto battlers the backline wont hit the assassin until after they kill their initial target. Or is this a situation where its not switching to the assassin after killing its first target?
I agree, it can be hard to counter rogues. I wonder if there could be a type of Illuvial that predicts rogue movements at the start of combat and sets focus accordingly, so they don't do the 4 step lumber across the bottom of your side before turning and attacking the rogue.
If everything was able to do that, rogues would be pretty ineffective though xD
Generally counter is to corner your carry behind tanks so they cant get access to the carries when they leap
hey everyone. just saw that I made it into this second wave of beta. I should just sit tight and wait for an email or something to be able to play right?
just about to say that xd
Definitely, but with rogues who have strong AoE potential like Ramphyre, you sometimes want to keep them physically away from your carries by tanking them with an Illuvial, and positioning to achieve that feels a little bit obtuse.
The scenario being described is before the unit is in combat with their initial target. So it should always recalculate who the closest unit is while it's out of combat until it's in combat
Right now the timeframe before recalculating is probably a bit longer than it should be (this is the description I got from the dev)
Yeah, that makes sense. It'll be a fine line tuning that properly to keep rogues competitive but not make tanking them feel like a slot machine.
If the Illuvial is already fighting another Illuviual then yes, what you're saying makes sense
Sounds like something that could have been entered in the Last Illuvial contest!
Although... we wouldn't have really known about that rogue "issue" back then....
Yeah that's what they said, also check spam just in case
Yup, sit tight and wait for the email 🙂
great thanks yall!
very tough to do atm
But if it's on its way to fight one and something jumps right behind it, it should be intelligent enough to turn around and deal with the new threat
can confirm.
I found out about this yesterday
Gotta sit and wait a long time :p
Yeah, exactly
Waiting for the email to arrive... The roses smell good, food tastes better, my garden is looking nicer, my partner is looking hotter, life is good.
are we assuming we will be able to play today?
I certainly won't be
awhh..
Have I missed the land sale?
nope
Lol
announcement expected today
the 2nd to the last part 😂
I was so nice to her this morning, loving even... illuvium beta access makes me a better man...
Maybe they've done something different, make sure to give a compliment
Now I want the frog bug illuvial as a meme NFT
What countries are everyone from? I hope that doesn't count as personal information
Got I assume the rule is a protective measure and it's more for personally identifiable information
This is awesome! lol
iluvium makes us a better person LOL
anyway GN all gotta rest tomorrow is another day, see ya around
anyone watch anime here?
here
what series are u currently watching?
Watch what happens when you gain access, you enter Zen Mode... Everything changes...
spy x family is hypin atm
💯
willing to buy discord account that has access to beta
hi fam ❤️
jk
My backseat driver intuition will finally be put to rest as I can drive for myself. Just waiting on email lol
Congratulations!
what the benefits of illuvium guilds?
LOL that was gone quick
I promised myself I would behave after I got Beta
i wasnt able to read it all 🤧
guilds are amazing and helpful -psion.eth
That's right, I need to try one before I comment.
congrats to those who made it in the next batch of the beta
dont worry once i get my email you will all see me on the top of the leaderboards
just refreshing right now
I'm going to miss discord too, it's been a fun 2 months, my soul has been enriched.
gm
less time in discord more time in game... i feel that. gonna need a discord cliiff notes channel
🤣
excited for the beta access lesgo thanks sers
🥶
How to access beta test batch 2?
Hello
probably need to be ranger aswell
#👑〕bot-commands
have u guys seen the Elon Musk scam that's going on on youtube?
they put in Elon on an enterview and add some website and claim to give instantly doble the crypto that u transfer to a wallet
pretty realistic for some users that are not paying close attention
what?
This is extremely common. Scammers will take videos of famous crypto personalities, overlay some scam UI about sending tokens to some address and getting double back. They then use bots to like the video, which brings it up in people's recommended video feeds. Youtube does a TERRIBLE job of removing those videos quickly enough. In general, assume everything is a scam.
i'll go check
what level is ranger ?
5
level 5
Who’s still spamming their email like me
They have done this with Michael Saylor for months and they don't take it down, it's being done on purpose by the tech giants.
good call
First time i came up with that kind of scam, i'm astonished
It’s not that, it’s that they have so many pop up that they take time to be taken down
in portugal was the first time that type of video go to recomend's
It happens a fair bit on Facebook as well. You typically only have them pop up if you're been searching crypto-related stuff, 'cause the algo works that way.
That’s scary
They have plenty of time to censor the videos they want to.
That’s why adoption to crypto is taking so long.
Oooh, I remember when I was JUST getting into Crypto... one of the first things I saw was a video overlay like that for ETH with Vitalik talking somewhere... or something. Almoooooost got me 😵
Well it’s like those pirate movies sites, they do take em down but not at the rate you’d think, 1000 popup before they take down 1
People gets scared with so many scams
yeah this one almost got me aswell
I don't think it's worth it at all for YouTube to allow it, I just think they need to get better at removal. The scammers usually make it a live video, which is difficult to parse in real time to determine that they are using existing footage that belongs to someone else.
There's a reason those things don't show up as actual videos, they are always live.
With crypto there are significantly less safety nets
So people are scared cause impact of fault can be greater
It’s a cat and mouse cycle with removals
They had voice recognition for certain words censoring videos during the pandemic, it was quite sophisticated what they were able to censor.
Scammers get more savvy by the second
i want to level up but i don't know what to say here so
It's a lot easier when they are taking the time to process the video, as compared to a live stream. They absolutely have the capability of stopping videos from going up, but live streaming needs work.
They have thousands of people telling them live these videos are a scam, they've done absolutely nothing about it for a very long time, this is not a new problem.
It's a battle of hearts and minds for regulation, that's all I'm saying.
In fairness to YouTube, parsing live video for the entirety of the website would take a LOT of work.
I'm not saying they don't need to improve, but it's a hard problem. AFAIK no streaming service can stop people from streaming whatever they want for a short duration, until it gets reported and removed. And a short duration is all the time scammers need.
People have streamed some pretty terrible stuff on Facebook and Twitch in the past, so it's not as though YouTube is lagging behind tech wise.
They could add a short delay before a stream actually goes "live" during which they parse the video contents, but there are problems with that too. There's also a lot of potential for DDOS style attacks as soon as they start parsing live video. If people upload a TON of normal videos, the queue to get them all processed takes longer. If "people" all go live at the same time, it's an attack vector against YouTube's servers. Plus, it's not actually live, which makes any kind of interactive livestream clunky.
It's crazy to think back on that livestream scam I almost fell for...
Knowing what I know now... it's like, "Geez Remi from the past... what were you thinking?" 😂
Same boat hahaha
can we still apply for closed beta to get in later on?
I almost got got by one of them early on too. The "free money" mentality in some crypto communities is definitely dangerous when you're starting out.
Turns out there's no free lunch 😢
Yup! On the Illuvium site 🙂
Link in #🔗〕helpful-links if you need it!
sick thank you
Me neither 🤷♂️
oh sick i already registered lol back to waiting
Yeahhh exactly. Especially because the blockchain tech is so new and fascinating... and there really ARE fantastic ways to invest and accrue more funds... but just, not the "gimme this, I'll 2x it for you and give it back" kind of fantastic

Yup. I was in the sweet spot to get scammed too, I'd figured out the basics of Etherscan, and the scammer had sent funds to the wallet and returned double the ETH to their own wallets to make it look more legitimate. Still kinda surprised I didn't fall for it in hindsight. When you know just enough to be dangerous to yourself xD
Oof, I remember that. They had those transactions appearing right there on the livestream feed too. Jeeeez, it was like watching a game show 🤑
Congrats to all who got selected for next round of beta! 🚀
Hi iv seen abit of beta gameplay on yt and a lot of talk about moving to the next stage, but all I have seen is the battle mode, is there any timeline on the open word game? Or is that another part of the game all together that will be released separately to the battle mode?
Pb2 will include overworld gameplay, there is no date for this but could be estimated to be within 2 months
Any good news guys?
GM!
Okay cool. Thanks 🙏
Pb1 currently happening with more people getting in, land sale coming in hot, sILV2 on the rise, cogs are moving
Do I have to withdraw my V1 ILV to stake it again?
Morning Scruba! 
If your tokens were staked flexibly on V1 (without a lock period), then yes. You would need to upgrade to V2 as well as withdraw your deposits and restake.
Have all emails been sent out to private beta people from today? I've been refreshing my email all day 😔
Thanks
Up
No, I don't believe so.
It has been suggested to wait around 24 hours to get the accounts set up.
Anyone streaming the new round ? since im one of the only rangers that didnt get in xd
im in voice ready to go
OK. Keep seeing people on Twitter getting on today.
imma jump in in a sec
I see the masses have settled already. Has the next wave of clamor started? Wen email? 😛
Ah, no one answer my question 🥲
Iam not in too…
GMM
Hahah, yeah for the most part. That particular question has been coming through in a steady stream all day. Understandable though... it's exciting!
Did you get named in the list? If so, just sit tight and you should get an email with a link in the next 24 hours (should be less now)
Hey Rizky-- sorry about that! Are you talking about the Private Beta 2 which comes after the current phase? That would be the same application process. So if you already applied for the beta through the Illuvium website, then you're done.
Stay tuned to #📣〕announcements of course though in case the team has any updates to provide regarding that
Yes, my name on the list
Ok, thanks for info 😃
Ok 😁
i feel so bad for almost getting scammed
when will the private beta 2 release?
hllo
new to the community, whats the long term vision here if anyone can tell me... i would be very grateful
Like whats the best way to invest per say 1000 dollars within the community? buy token?
Long term, looking to be a game developing studio on par with activision/blizzard minus the sexual harassment and literal abuse. Governed by the community through a DAO, votes from ilv holders, make lots money, make fun games and eventually lead to a huge multifaceted universe of illuvium products
to basically building a pokemon/disney universe
Buy token or add liquidity for then stake on official website for long term gain
Not financial advice
lmao ofc thank you appreciate it
How do I get to level 5 so I can post a pic of some ILV art I made in community content?
Just engage in discord have discussions and it’ll come
maybe today announce
To reduce chat traffic
perfect I am a huge believer in conviction is built not bought so yea you'll def see me here more trying to understand the community... also is there a road map? and if there is have the devs kept up with the road map
It helps stop people from spamming thoughtless stuff, it also limits how much damage bots can do before they get hammered.
landsale in immutable x marketplace?
If you've ever seen a Discord on fire before, you'll know the stuff I'm talking about lol
How many people can play the beta? I thought maybe I heard 1000.
there was a live dev map that was supposed to be up for us seeing what's going on at any given time but it was messed up iirc so it got taken down at least temporarily and don't believe it's been fixed and put back up yet
The team is increasing availability over time. After this next round gets in it should be around 1k I think, but that's not like, a hard cap or something, just the current number.
kieran mentioned something like 1k then 5k, then 10k and after that open beta roughly iirc
🤞🏼
How long ago did the first beta invites go out?
Right on! Can't wait to have my son try it out for me haha! We are so excited, but patience is what we are good at. I'll just sit back and let the devs do their magic. ILV is the best performer in my portfolio at this time! Got in @740% apy 😁
Jelly! I didn't swap out of the ILV only pool until it the SLP was down to 400-ish haha. Hindsight xD
I haven't seen any game play in the last 1.5 months. Kinda don't want to spoil it for myself. The world looks amazing! Colors and attention to texture detail are off the hook! Is there a beta on Illuvium Zero? Guessing not since that will be all the land that hasn't been up for sale yet
I haven't got mine
Yeah regained 500 today….nothing out there like The quality of this game not even close
Preach
hey im trying to remove liquidty from a pool to put more into ILV
how do i find the pool on uniswap?
Sushi
Check the pinned messages in the #💰〕token
Shoots I did it last July, kind forgot how I did it. Think at the staking site it will send you to sushi LP
Been sleeping on the discord but so hype to play
Yeah, I think the testing for IL:Z will be after the land sale. I'm sure the team has been doing internal testing though.
Which one is better? Land or ILV staking?
That’s a very hard decision
Land for stability, ILV when tokens are bottomed out, ETH Lizards for generational wealth, Illuvitars for long-term speculation, Illuvials for generational wealth. You're welcome.
It's impossible to make an objective assessment on that without knowledge of the future. ILV's earning potential is better defined IMO, since Blueprints are kind of a wild card with current knowledge.
I met someone who had a Ph.D in economics who told me lizard pictures are the classic hedge against inflation, well with a sample size of 1 ETH Lizards collection he's not wrong!
Thanks..
When do eth lizards and Illuvials come out?
Or how do I acquire if they are already
ETHlizards are a separate NFT project which have already been minted and are available on Opensea 🙂
Illuvials come out when the open beta launches. No pre-sale or minting event will happen before that. So every is going to start the game at launch with NOTHING. Then you battle and capture the Illuvials in game to mint them to your wallet 
Ok that’s cool, so is there anything I can mint from illuvium other than land?
Also do we know the pricing on land?
I want to buy a good amount if I can
Is there any way to catch Illuvials rather than using shards?
Gn fam
wens beta 2 coming out
There is the ILV token of course... which gets you access to defi through Staking and Revenue Distributions.
Other than that, there are some collectors and cosmetic NFTs but they don't have a use in-game other than the emotes and the Moz4rt skins
Thanks
The NFTs that have been minted can be found below 🙂
All verified promo NFTs can be found through the following link:
gm mate
Please link me to land pricing
Nope! As far as I know, it will just be shards.
You can get shards for catching Tier 0 illuvials for free when you play the game.
But when you want to capture higher tier Illuvials, you'll need to pay a fee to "cure" the shard.
Ah, yes!
You can find the most recent details for the upcoming land sale in the proposal that was passed in #📰〕governance-news
can people hack you if you give them a transaction hash?
my name is not in the private beta list
I'm already a ranger, is there a 3rd private beta session? can i try it too? is there any hope ?
Yeah, they said they'll be opening it up further still
thanks bro
Has Illuvium ever stated exactly what materials will be able to be farmed in the overworld and if there’s plans to expand resources you can obtain in PVE?
just the starting price
yeah, people aren't expected to actually pay that
if you do you fucked up lol
but it drops like every second or minute, so it will be at that price for a very short period, so its not that fucked 😆
The price reduces real quick. Just my thought, but I reckon they will get picked up around 50% of starting price.
haha
Hello.
I haven't seen the date for land sale either. I think they are still about to let us know
This infographic shows it #💬〕general message drops all the way to around 4.79%
LAND LFGGG
Hey guys
Anyone get the beta email yet?
I haven't
Still waiting. I have never watched my email this closely...
Refresh all day
nope
First thing I check when I woke up, but not yet
Shiny’s has a couple at this point. My understanding there is tiny by comparison beta invites. Good time to research and watch the people who have for insights. Good luck to all.
So if this land sale happens before my ethereum clears (14 more days) am I fucked basically?
Won’t be able to purchase the first round?
hey guys
heyo
If you have no funds to use then you would have no funds to use.
But there will be a chance to buy on the marketplace from other people that bought and then want to sell them.
who knew an email account could captivate my attention 🤣
Sigh, no way to get ethereum instantly??
its usually instant for me through coinbase bank link, how are u doing it that takes 2 weeks, i havent seen that before
Coinbase has some ways to instantly withdraw. You can even purchase eth directly from metamask I think. But it’s expensive that way.
crypto.com you can
i love my crypto.com card
good customer service as well
Was dev blog updated?
Sadly not actually not instantly if you’re a new user. They force you to whitelist address for withdraws and takes 24 hours at least
I liked the card too and a long cdc supporter but they’re lowering the rates for the card, made so many ppl mad af
i don't think so, haven't seen anything new on the illuvium medium
Binance, From $$$ in Back to ETH in MM wallet can be done in 5 minutes (Aussie here)
OK. How many times ?
I've used Changelly in the past and it's been "instant" for me, not sure if there policies have changed though. Is it the fiat on-ramp that is the issue?
Now that we know city building is locked in, who is strategizing on Location VS. Tier? I assume the plots will launched at random locations throughout the map, so a strategy could be to capture clusters over specific tier. And looking for those key low plots between higher density tier 3 & 4 plots.
Was a about to suggest the same thing. Binance has been good for me over the last 16 months. You just gotta pay gas to xfer from binance to mm
Has anyone gotten their email yet for round 2 of private beta, or does it start tomorrow?
I'm a little confused how rev dis works for travel fees. My understanding is you buy it from the fuel/eth pool, but I know land owners sell fuel to that pool. Just confused if it goes to rev dis or land owners
big degens selling otherdeeds for 3.4 to try and mint PXN 
"this time it'll be different bro"
How 2 get listed for beta
dm me if you need code for Blur
100% of the proceeds go to ILV stakers.
Does the stakers include LP stakers?
the half of the LP that is ILV does get rev dis
cool, that's fair
thanks
Hello. I'm new here. Got staking set up with v2, and looking forward to playing the beta releases!
Hey guys
gm all
😄
any1 need blur invite code - got 3 left
ONly 5% goes to land owners 95% illvuium sells and gives back to stakers
WELCOME 🤗
✨ check out #❓〕faq , #🔗〕helpful-links and #🥩〕staking too!
It all goes thru the illuvidex market place so Illuvium can tack payments and revenue distribution
i havnt heard anything about if u have land and build it up, when sold, will the new owner start from scratch or have what was built on already?
So player buys fuels from the pool, 95% of eth goes to vault, 5% goes to land owners as eth or does it go through the vault first? Also land owners just sell fuel to the pool for eth?
good day, is there any announcement abt the land sale please? thanks
Hi fellow GFC!
im so sad they decided to increase the price of land
hey there!
It is just a starting price bro
if the lowered it to 1eth you would you just get bots to buy it all up insantly and we all lose
Stays built up across transfers
thats awesome
and increasing price sure prevents bots from still doing it?
Got accepted to the beta but going on a trip this weekend lol
no it decrease quickly over time
yes if bots bought a t1 land at 2eth they way overpaid and will lose money on secondary markets
you might as well stake ILV at those prices
correct if someone buys it at max price then thats better for stakers because that gives rev dis
sup mate
If it's bought in ETH
the amount someone pays influence how much is given back as rev dis?
Hi, I have not received email yet with instructions on how to install and play the beta. can you please help. How can I check to confirm.
@lusty mantle Check your email!
Still good if they buy in sILV2 as well as it reduces ILV supply
BOOSH
So no more whining about NDA being processed? 😄
FUCK YEAH WOAH DILLY MIGILLY
hahaha! Congrats buddy! Happy you finally got it
yes all in all its a win
It was less than 24 hours of NDA whining acutally. I was just awake for all 23 hours of it so it seemed like a lot.
its downloading
slowly...
yea they have withdrawal fee. 0.0016 ETH = about AUD$6
Your first 5 games, tell us everything...
100% is revdis
or show us live....
still refreshing my email.. finger cramps
I cant wait to hit that download button. It will feel like christmas
anyone know how long download takes? trying to get a few games in tonight lol
i cant wait to hit the download and watch it finish in seconds 🤣
nice congrats!
supposed to come in an email within 24hrs.. just waiting game
im on the list but no email yet
the number of simultaneous livestreams might crash poor discord...
What's the invite code for? 👀
beta and land sale date on same day... feels like Christmas
woah this is sad.. no one doing live beta stream right now? what then will I watch during my 15min break..
Congratz beta testers yohohohoho
Land sale date? You messin with us?
I need to go buy a better computer. Right now its Illuvium slideshow
i mean Kieran said we should get a date within 24 hrs so if anyone is messing its him... dont look at me
Ahaha ok
It is like in 10 more hours or so
Still to come...
You can do the first ILV gameplay PowerPoint Presso then 💪
wen emailllllll i wanna playyyyyyy
wen email wen land sale date wen mars landing
Should be fine If i talk slow. I was planning on buying a nice PC for Illuvium anyway. Im forcing an 8 year old macbook pro to power through it right now.
That's probably a really valuable test for the team TBH.
Gonna drop discord and everything else i have running and see if I can scrape by better.
☮️
shit
we gonna head to head
dont u hav it?.... 🤣
He has been streaming heaps 🤣
what date is this happening friend?
Nice
Gm👋🏻
Sup fellow Illuvials
Still refreshing
Afternoon all
mail when?:P
Wrong mouse sir to send those emails
https://c.tenor.com/O1KlBFjvCqwAAAAM/hamsters-wheel.gif
lolol
Patience is the key... 😂
When are NFTs expected to become mainstream?
I WANT MY EMAILLL
So land date within 6 hours?
says who?, they said announced within the week
me with the beta email
I am refreshing my mail every hour

👀
Good morning
samee
is there a place where I can get info on discord roles and how to progress?
mainly talking about rangers
progress on what
U need a lv 5 thats it
oh thanks mate
You just have to be active in the discord replying to messages and such
Yeah I want to be more active in here anyway. Cheers guys
i hope not just gm hbu gn
are you into any other games like ilv? tft?
i play magic chess more than tft
I don't play any games like this so I need practice for launch
magic chess is mobile
ill check it out
i need to grind 2 levels
Many people have said such as Frobei who was a professional TFT player. That he had to rethink how he plays in illuvium. The game seems like it slowly teaches you mechanics that will build upon eachother.
wht is it
i play tft too anyone else here lel, highest i got in tft was plat
its probably take a day or two
Meanwhile clean your keyboard
nah they said within 24 hrs we should get email
dust off your fans, delid your cpu or something
Dont get me started on that, i cleaned mine and discovered a hidden compartment i didnt know about, and ive had the thing for a year
no dust on pc, my pc is in liquid
that liquid is my pee
Still builds dust on the radiator fans
liquid cooler or submerged?
submerged with my pee
people are going cray cray
No shit lol
Still waiting for the mail
Should have seen crazy the chat was earlier, i couldnt keep up🤣
yea i try to stay off general
hello
When do you guys think they add the next players to the beta?
No idea maybe in two weeks or even in a week
to get selected is it just random rangers?
end of month ish
I think but you had to fill a form
the form is jus their website
ok makes sense. Good luck guys
You think the 5% share of fuel being produced by land owners could increase in time?
That’s unfortunate
I already got selected as beta tester just waiting for the mail but good luck to you
where did you see this?
Something that could come up in an IIP I suppose
No
how to become a ranger
Lv 5
More talking about the 5% comment. I saw that the 5 tiers have element sites, fuel sites and production boosts but didn't realise that specifically 5% of all fuel is from land
This game out yet?
I'm assuming the rest comes from battle rewards?
wow! thanks for the info
It’s in private beta
the DAO supply 95%
You can try to register on the website in #🔗〕helpful-links
Refreshing
Let's go!
But i cant not until i get it
Are we guessing land sale dates?
May 15? May 20?
where can I read more about this?
any update with land sale schedule?
May 21
#🎮〕illuvium-zero check the pins.
should be this week

What? Sounds like a random date you made up
Guess
🙂
Prob June 20
There will be a date announced soon. Maybe even as soon as today. Maybe this week.
Just give us a date even if it’s June. Damn been waiting.
So demanding 🤣
Been teased since October!!

Most games of this caliber take 4 to 6 years to develop. This game will be out with less than 2 years of development. We are getting spoiled!
And it's going to better than all the games that take 4-6 years
And they are even streaming it right now on Discord
good afternoon
at least by the time I get into beta I will have an excuse for being bottom of the leader board
I got beta, and using that excuse right now
Hey if you even get in the top 20 soon it’ll be a pretty good achievement.
I fear for my chances
are there any benefits?
right now no, as it is not open beta
dang
will not be fair for others
Being good will win you tournaments though.
its a closed beta, only approved members
rn? or when game goes public
There was a tournament for $1000 the other day.
😮
only for top place? or what is it
Whts going on in voice?
a rocket league pro won! XD
imagine a $100m prize pool
anyone else super excited for illuvitars?
Good Morning 🌄☕
Gm👋🏻
Very excited 😁
Me too🥰
Hello fellas
How do I get access to the private beta if I’m on that list for the discord batch ?
Wait for the email. Then you go to the website and be able to setup a login. And follow the next steps.
just keep refreshing
Arlen... Arlen where are you ?
Thanks ❤️ so excited to get my hands on it
Gn
hello. the developers said that the game will be released in the first quarter of 2022, already the second quarter. when will the game be released? I've been waiting for an open beta test for 4 months now. who know?
Q3 imo
can i get land with 7 silv?
Arlen will snatch it in a heart beat
Whos arlen
Yeah, if prices drop below 1.4ish Eth.
I heard june🤔
seems pretty reasonable
good ass 👍
just tier 1 tho right? i have no chance at tier 2?
nice hair
Who knows… depends how the sale goes. Maybe it’ll drop low.
oh so tier 2 might be in the cards ...
Check pins in #🎮〕illuvium-zero to see how the sale might work out.
Date should be hopefully announced in about 8 hours based on kiearans last post
wen emailllllllllll
has it been 24 hrs?
I know they are entered onto the list to get emails
over 17 hrs i believe
and then is the NDA? for me it took 1 day after that
i missed my ranger by 1 level. ugh. been in here since.. ever.
Only Fraggy talks to me in here .. i feel so...
@lusty mantle
anyone got their email?
1 level?
Probably not yet
not yet, Is there still an NDA portion after the email?
Announcement within 480 minutes
Its completely removed at this point
about topic ?
Land sale date
and then ILV probably starts pumping a bit lol
Any recommendations for content creators who focus on strategy ?
How do you check level
wen wen wennnn
check in #👑〕bot-commands it will be obvious
who say what about time with you bacase last anouncement talk just this week.
gm
Kieran wrote it on discord yesterday that the date will be announced in 24h
Why is Eth pumping? 
gm
Eth just following btc lead
You mean silv2
nah, im thinking we might see some people start staking thinking they can make a quick buck on revdis for minimal stake time

Hmm yeah oke fair
not saying they will really succeed in their expectations lol
You will get revdis on your vesting ilv too right?
do we need to play illuvium zero if we want to play illuvium ? is there any link between the two?
only on staked ILV from both pools, but only ILV portion of SLP in ILV/ETH
no, separate games
No, its just a minigame to gain fuel and elements and blueprints. Fuel is needed for illuvium travel but that can be bought with silv2 or eth as well
Yeah oke thx
so there is a link in between the two , you can farm fuel on illuvium zero that u can use on illuvium
Does zero have gameplay? Or more of a set up and let run,.like and afk game
its like a city builder game
Will need to start understanding everything better. I've been up to date with the main game but didn't want to dive too deep and make myself too excited to wait
Yes that is the only usefull link i guess. With blueprints you can make skins too but thats only cosmetics. I dont know the details about elements and there are different kind of fuels as well. I think there is an article somewhere
Looks like we aren't super far off a release though which is exciting. Fingers crossed for late q3
is there a different discord for it ? cause I dont see updates around it here
Do you have to buy an entire plot of land?
Look for the infoluvial dot io website, they have a lot of information
If you want to earn in illuvium zero yes
yes, not fractionalized
Dam, quite an investment.. thousands
Or less if you are lucky
resources generated will be used for all games illuvium makes going forward
Can be bought with silv2 as well
Dont get me wrong, I'm going to do it lol. just quite an investment
Floor starts at 2eth for cheapest land but it's a dutch auction so will drop a good amount lower
Waiting my 15 days on coinbase to be able to use my ethereum
Why do you have to wait? Seems weird
wennn emailll
i think you should wait announced.
Who dis
wat up illuvians how it going??
Have to wait because new account
Hi guys, how can someone be at least a ranger in discord role?
Can’t transfer funds for 15 days
where can I find requirements for each of the games?
Is Survival mode only allowed in Windows PC, I got a Mac lol.
Also I assume we need gaming PC for Overworld? anywhere they posted the requirements yet.
comment in chat :)
You can play on Mac. No specs yet, but medium to high spec will be needed to run the game well
hey does anyone know what game modes will be available in the beta?
survival
In the #👑〕bot-commands you can see your rank. You get exp for chatting
@lusty mantle did u actually get some sleep?
that is great news, my mac is pretty high spec. would that work for both survival and overworld?
I think so yes
ive never heard of a mac having "high spec" 🤣
gaming on a mac is ew tho...
There was a guy earlier who had a Mac he said it was low end and ran the survival mode well
apple doesnt care for gamers
I hear ya, but I rather put the money into land for now. instead of getting a gaming pc
ok thanks
But I can see only the rank
Not the role
@barren thicket @crystal root
the role is just being level 5 or higher
Perfect
Thank you
u can get a low end gaming pc cheaper than a macbook lel
hey guys it says i got into the beta, how do i play it ??
Need to wait for an email. Lots of people seem to be waiting for it still
Processor: 2.9 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i9
Memory: 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
Graphics: Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
What would this be considered these days in the gaming world?
This was in 2018, so most likely low spec by now
got it thanks
the graphics might be an issue with on board graphics, i dont have the beta yet, so i cant say for sure
thats a fact, but I already have the mac, gaming pc I dont have.
hello
Yes
how can i get twitter raider role
@warm abyss for reference, Ill be using:
4.0Ghz 12core/24t hread cpu
32 GB DDR4 4000 Mhz ram
RTX 2070 Super GPU
Once open beta hits, will it be better to grind Survival or Overworld for yield, maybe something else?
good place to look into gaming rigs these days with good price?
depends on ur luck in overworld and getting a dark holo i would say
if ur building from scratch, maybe look a redux prebuilds, or build urself if u know what ur doing
🙏 RNGsus
buy a decent gpu
no RNG here 🤣
i cant wait to see how it affects my hardware
Will there actually be earning in the open beta? I thought earnings wouldn't happen until official launch
GTX 1070 is ok?
Guess you gotta test the earning aspects of the software as well
atm no
No earnings in Closed beta.
Earning will start in open beta which is technically launch. It was always planned this way.
anyone know if DLSS is supported in beta?
Well then. Holos will be distributed on the same "map" for the players and no rng in spawning?
like i said the game is really heavy
You would assume they plan to make improvements on this. Not a major importance for them at this stage
no optimisation in beta yet?
I would have thought 1070 was plenty, but no optimisations yet.
thats all i can say
Game will eventually be optimized for even mobile so total potato pcs will be able to run it. Not there yet tho.
same map, but random odds
are u playing it?
So RNG then? Not sure I'm following 
random chances of dark holo, but my understanding is you will know from the portal appearance
All Encounters are randomized. You can spend energy to scan and see what illuvials are present before entering the battle
check out the latest volkin video about game play on youtube. he did a very good summary.
(this is for the autobattler)
Thanks guys
that sounds awesome :)
I recently bought a pc with a 1070 so I hope it is enough even in pixelmon mode
thats a dream GPU he has there
Someone knows if there are hardware specifics for running the game?
should be okay
Did they sad when the main game will launch? Cannot find anything on the roadmap
nop they will later maybe
Thanks man
Closed beta happening now. Open beta (launch) I would guess could be maybe in July/August?
Open Beta Q2
Says the roadmap at least
I have 6 3060ti GPUs. Hoping to use them for the game 😌
As Closed beta started later, I would expect that to be pushed back. It's all a guess tho.
Ah okay alright, and the game will come out short after the Beta?
hey fam
Open beta is launch where players can earn, start collecting nfts etc.
i dont know if they will earn nfts, might get wiped at full release
So Illuvium Zero should come out in May, can you directly earn the farm Tokens when you have land?
Yes you will be able to earn fuel/rss when you have land.
Closed beta is 100% wiped.
Open beta will have earning and nft collecting. It's been planned this way since the beginning. The only reason this could change would be if they decide to do some early-limited version of Open beta.
I thought they will wipe out the progress right before launch ?
Open beta will be considered launch
we will be in a perpetual beta
I know, I was under the impression whatever you progress/earn before launch it won't be valuable and you can't sell it as the progress will be wiped out
That's a testiment to how often the team will deliver new features/content.
Progress from Closed beta will be wiped.
still waiting for the mail
From zero/land as well
