💬〕general

[sage falcon]

In what way? So I don't have to watch it literally gimme one sentence

[sonic dagger]

• we have much more emphasis on OW after palworld. OW was just a pack opening before palworld
• "illuvials hunting"
• future plan to make auto battler in OW optional
• recent amas and vid talked about palworld.
• keep saying palword is good but we are better because of graphic, lore and nft.

i can already imagine the narrative they gonna sell is web3 palworld riding the coattails of palworld

[sage falcon]

This is great news actually

[sonic dagger]

just count how many times the word "palworld" was mentioned

[sage falcon]

I was saying before I won't be able to ever play illivium at all if it is just.autobattler

[sonic dagger]

yes. its a bit funny that some people are bashing barron in the comment

[sage falcon]

Do you mean Kieran

Or was someone else mentioned

[sonic dagger]

kieran, andrew, rich

i havent watched aaron's

[covert violet]

we need armored mechs, palworld doesn't have armored mech

[sage falcon]

We need palworld

Everything else can fuck off

[covert violet]

palworld certainly would have a wider audience but i don't know, doesn't the novelty wear off after awhile

[sage falcon]

I would have thought y'all had grown out of gaming altogether idk

[sonic dagger]

nobody cares about novelty, we just want to blow some sht

kieran is playing mavia

[sage falcon]

There's nothing else to play

[covert violet]

i hear ya, that primal instant gratification...but don't you get tired of blowing shit up after awhile

[sonic dagger]

im grinding mavia

[sage falcon]

Thoughts?

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-freedoms-loudly-murica-shouts-gif-22619276

[covert violet]

i don't touch mavia either, seems like one of many clash of clans clones

[sonic dagger]

many bugs
game progression is tied to wallet
im addicted

its a nub move to tie game progress to wallet

[sage falcon]

Excellent. Said in Mr Burns voice

[sonic dagger]

they incentive people to download the game, idk pretty premature imo. must be to get that trending on appstore and tweet

[sage falcon]

Probably

Anything that helps

[nocturne basalt]

Legit email to migrate?

[sonic dagger]

migrate what

[nocturne basalt]

iIIuvium CDK upgrade: Migrate now and secure your exclusive airdrop

[sonic dagger]

use the official links #🔗〕helpful-links

[nocturne basalt]

That's what it said on the email

[sonic dagger]

sc@m

[nocturne basalt]

I thoight so.. there's nothing announced. Thanks

[covert violet]

weird, I thought this chat would be more busier as we get closer to launch. did regulars stop coming?

[sage falcon]

We aren't close to launch

[covert violet]

it's already feb., time is just flying by

[sage falcon]

I know it's crazy. I remember being pissed off with a Q4 2023 launch date

Now it's been and gone haha

[inland turret]

Gm

[young bone]

Gm

[low rivet]

gmgm

[young bone]

🙂

[normal python]

My proficiency is the launch of illuvium will coincide with the second coming of our lord and saviour Von neumann 🙏

[sage falcon]

This is a very proficient prophecy

[dense zealot]

Wow! You should change your name to Russia

[split lintel]

Ew @near pier

Chump base

🤣🤣

[young bone]

Is this Mavia?

[split lintel]

It could be.

But yes it is

[young bone]

Haha lol.
How do we check it out?

[sonic dagger]

im on a strike

900 trophies, was about to upgrade to HQ4 and they booted me out

[split lintel]

Booted u out?

[sonic dagger]

lost 30% of gold and they increased the gold requirement for HQ upgrade

yea if ur playing long enough u will get booted

[split lintel]

Step 1. Google play store. Step 2 do tutorial. Step 3, scoriox creator code

[sonic dagger]

so people can attack u

[split lintel]

Oh yeah it disconnected u

Super duper weird

Yeah they dropped the ball on a crap tonne of basic UX

But my sights are set on their speed to fix it

[sonic dagger]

and they have a bug

ur supposed to get a shield after being attacked once

[split lintel]

Its 50/50 with me

Sometimes I have 20

Sometimes I have 1

[sonic dagger]

rip

[vocal folio]

yeah, sometimes i get attacked like 20 times in half a second of being offline, and now i can't get attacked for the last 20 minutes...

[lament trail]

It’s Saturday night guys

Get off the discord

Go get some ass

Go Newtown or The Ivy

[gilded prairie]

What's the insider video? I want to see it too

When is the zero reset

I did not get all the blueprints

Only 10/45

[warm lantern]

yo @ripe geode did anyone report the game frozen and neither pc restart, reinstall, etc. fix it yet? /is there a fix?

I have been asked about it, didn´t encounter myself

[ripe geode]

not like this no, it sounds like a hardware issue if the whole PC is restarting (overhitting, broken drivers, dead fan/pump, power supply) they may be many couses, if it was not you, could you ask this person to make a support ticket, we would need to troubleshoot a little (get crash logs, pc specs etc)

[warm lantern]

thx

[livid marten]

Is the world or is the world not in a constant state of war?

[gilded prairie]

Minting window extended ?

[worthy juniper]

Tournament tonight is cancled due to low Sign-Ups!
We will reconsider Ruleset, Timeframe, Format and other factors and come back with a better and bigger one in the near future! 🙌

[jaunty timber]

Hey, i am stuck in a game with smartass, round didn't start.. We can't surrender or do anything. It was around 2 hours ago and it's still same for both of us.. Is there anything we can do?

[ripe geode]

unfortunately not right now, please make a report thru in-game reporter, we are collecting all incidents like this, team is working on this issue, and information on how many ppl are encountering it, will help a lot

[jaunty timber]

Thank you for quick response, appreciate that. So we just report and wait? There is nothing on the backend you can do?

[ripe geode]

yes, for now just a report, right now we do not have tools to reconnect you guys (just alt-F4 if you dont have option to surrender)

[jaunty timber]

Okay, thanks for your help. Have a nice day

[fluid storm]

Do you drop resources after getting death from Dome Collapse?

[jaunty timber]

One more question, is it possible to somehow disable our auto logins on main accounts, so we can relogin on main devices? I guess we have no life and would like to play on other accouts but we can't even logout

[ripe geode]

you mean this?

[jaunty timber]

Yes but i can't get to this screen, when we run the game it goes back to reconnect or surrender screen. If i click on surrender i get 'wait for the server response' in the low right corner and if i click on reconnect i go back to the game

Because the game is automatically loging to our main accounts on start. Smartass is wondering if we can somehow disable that autologin part so we can play on other accounts

[ripe geode]

have you reported it? could you make a short vidof you logging in and not being able to surrender?

and send it to us

[jaunty timber]

Sure, where do i send?

i did report

[ripe geode]

open in game reporter (B) submit a ticket, and respond to an email you will receive with vid attached

[haughty osprey]

literally every match since the update who ever i play against just does the polar bear in the middle now. what did they do , over correct the balance situation?

[red geyser]

I doubt that very much.

[red geyser]

But i think there are still 3 hours to mint in the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game

[red geyser]

Looks like someone else figured this out… #❓❗〕community-help message

[sonic dagger]

maybe people are busy playing mavia lol

[grizzled kraken]

so i have a tier 1 land am i still able to mint stuff with it?

still learning the ins and outs of illuvium

[red geyser]

If you have blueprints in the game already then yes. You have maybe 3 hours to mint them. Just go to the game. Open the blueprints. And click MINT. No actual chain approval is needed. It’s just in game action.

[grizzled kraken]

ah then I guess I missed out I just got the land today

i guess ill have to wait for a reset?

[red geyser]

Correct. Feel free to play and see how the #🎮〕illuvium-zero game works though. Good to get practice in before the on chain production gets started with public launch.

[grizzled kraken]

when is public launch?

[worthy juniper]

Q2

[covert violet]

make the cash prizes bigger while you're at it

[worthy juniper]

this is a community run event. i think 600 bucks ain't bad price money considering that

[fierce vine]

$600 for a one night tournament ran by the community is pretty good imo. Thats a pretty good wage depending how long it takes of gameplay

[sonic dagger]

ww have an iip to grant 100 ILV

[fierce vine]

Hopefully it’s redirected from the terrible influencer campaign

[covert violet]

whose idea was that anyway?

[fierce vine]

No idea I just know it isn’t working and is a terrible idea. Not sure why we’d push marketing in an area that isn’t insanely friendly to web3 and without a way to return that money into the ecosystem. Would be better after overworld is only a couple weeks away and I doubt we are a couple months away at this point

[manic osprey]

Or, maybe you are just wrong 🤷‍♂️ Tarren said they were happy with the numbers it produced. But I'm sure you "know" better...

[fierce vine]

They must be pulling numbers that aren’t on YouTube or Twitter or discord. You can see how many people are subscribing and on a channel and it overall didn’t change. Even if it changed 500 people that’s an extremely expensive pay to return ratio for marketing campaigns. Especially when 500 is like an increase of .07%. Also even if it was a respectable amount you don’t have any way for that increase in numbers to lead to revenue

[manic osprey]

One of the most basic rules of marketing is that on average, it takes 7 times to see something before a person buys. This is the entire business model behind TV and billboard advertisement and there is no accurate way to measure results immediately. But it's important to start exposing as many people to the game well ahead of launch, even if they don't bring revenue immediately. By the time launch comes, many will be ready to buy.

[fierce vine]

While that’s true if you don’t know your launch date and have delayed several times you should start these type of campaigns much closer to actual launch and use data to research the most money and time efficient methods to gather the views.
Plus I think most web3 knows about Illuvium so at this point it isn’t spreading the knowledge. I haven’t really heard anyone outside this community that wants to play arena so you’re marketing the aspect of the game the least amount of people want. What you need to build right now is reputation. Ilv biggest hit to its reputation is the delays. So any marketing money spent should be towards reputation building and not towards getting viewers that won’t convert to money spent.

[covert violet]

maybe launch is closer than we think

[manic osprey]

When the game launches, no one will remember the delays in the past. They either want to play or they don't. And you bet no one wants to play arena if they don't know about it. Hence we need to show it. Also, streamers can do OW as well, not just arena. "any marketing money spent should be towards reputation building" - this sounds like a handjob without the payoff...

[shadow lake]

hello, when is the point reset on the ILV arena leaderboard?

and where can i see how many games i have been playing and all that?

[fierce vine]

You would have a difficult time finding someon in the GameFi space that doesn't know about illuvium and know about Arena. Also this entire campaign is a handjob without hte pay off lol again there's 0 way for the money to be returned into the ecosystem

[tepid fossil]

👀Howdy'O Folks!!
How are you all doing in this beautiful day, you adorable people?

[next nova]

hey guys

just got an email about an airdrop is taht real lol

i mean a claim

[ripe geode]

its a scam, do not interact with it

[next nova]

lol thought so, just checking thanks

[long zinc]

change frost asap....this meta is pretty boring!!!

[neon crown]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-gif-20541523

[red geyser]

There will never be an email that provides the only link to do anything on chain. Every email link like that is going to be a scam. You’ll only ever need to go to the actual illuvium website that you should already have saved somewhere. Or use the links in #🔗〕helpful-links

[next nova]

Yeee went to the website first to check lol. Comment in here to double check also

[elfin cave]

So we are in Early Access now - does this include Web3 features?

[novel oak]

yes, nothing is hooked to the blockchain

[novel oak]

#📣〕announcements message

you can check match history on illuvial master .com

[fading sentinel]

Hey guys. I would be interested to hear about you guys think about my OverWorld Overhaul piece I put in suggestions tab. Scoriox posted it on my behalf

[junior blaze]

You seem quite sure that it “isn’t working”? Can I please ask how you came to that conclusion and what data points you’re looking to confirm your premise?

[fierce vine]

Discord Twitter YouTube twitch numbers, unless a few hundred is a good amount for 100 ilv a week

[junior blaze]

I see. You’re also missing, Facebook, Instagram, Medium, Telegram groups and TikTok (+ some others)

Are you also looking at non English content? And the number of downloads that were driven through the creators?

I ask you to please understand that the team aren’t trying to waste time and money with bogus initiatives. If after looking at numerous data points in a holistic manner, we came to the conclusion it wasn’t ROI positive, we would stop the initiative.

So far the creator rewards program has exceeded my expectations with the results which I’m honestly happy to see.

[fierce vine]

Are Facebook and Instagram large drivers of gamefi? Figured the most important ones would be the ones that have to do with gaming. And yes I’m looking at all aspects of how viewers get to us. If this is the case can you start releasing dau so people can compare before and after and show metrics? Because so far the numbers show there’s a change of a few hundred that can be attributed to weekly ebb and flow.

How many net views was Illuvium getting prior to the campaign compared to after and what’s the weekly change?

[junior blaze]

Please tell me what is the preferred social media platform for South East Asia (which is a remarkably large market)?

[junior blaze]

“Net views” is not the main kpi we are focused on with this initiative.

[fierce vine]

Is it just based on that? Shouldn’t it target market area and where users flow into web3. Since Facebook and Instagram aren’t known as reliable sources of crypto knowledge and isn’t really a driver of crypto

[fierce vine]

What’s the main kpi

[junior blaze]

Do you mind specifying what platforms you believe we should be focusing on and which ones we should ignore?

What platforms would successfully target market area? And which ones wouldn’t?

[fierce vine]

Honestly marketing in general right now is a waste since we are so far out from launch. No way for users to bring money into the ecosystem and we are less than a year on the runway. Arena won’t be a driver of users so should wait until OW is fully marketable.

Biggest piece of marketing will be earning

Get big names to play the game once you can earn. They pick up a rare illuvial worth a lot of money. That’ll bring in more people than any other campaign will

Web3 only cares about earning. If there’s no way to earn, no way to bring money back into the ecosystem it’s just a waste

Web2 is likely a year or two away from actually adopting crypto

So stuff like twitch is going to burn money in general

[junior blaze]

I see, to make sure I understand your point of view, you believe we shouldn’t be doing any marketing initiatives right now as there are no benefits to doing so without the the DAO being able to generate revenue. Is that correct?

[fierce vine]

Well, ones that don’t cost $7500 a week would be better. Unless we are weeks away from full beta then burn away. If we are 6 months then any users/hype gained will be burnt out by then away even if its successful

[junior blaze]

Im very open to hearing suggestions that maybe we have overlooked if you have a list of ideas we could consider?

[fierce vine]

Gotta go eat dinner but is there anything wrong with waiting until release date is actually official and making it so they have to mention release date is x with a minimum snippet they have to talk about release date if release is coming up. Making it so videos have to get a minimum amount of views. I assume you already have that last bit and already have a limit where after x time if no users/viewers are gained the campaign is cut
Other thing is I’m curious how well TL campaign is going since I’d think they’d be the best out of anyone to bring in views and users

[junior blaze]

Again, I just want to make sure I understand you fully. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Your suggestion is “wait until there is a release date offical” and then start doing marketing?

As I mentioned, I’m very open to bringing some of your suggestions to the team in case we’ve overlooked some potential marketing strategies or initiatives. Just need you to share what they are the key objective (kpi) for the initiative.

[eager river]

Definitely not too early imo. I like the influencer thing and am hype af after Aaron and Kierans recent longforms. Lots to get excited about and looking forward to the hunting mechanics

[elfin cave]

Do we know when web 3 elements will be integrated?

[sonic dagger]

easiest way to settle this is to publish the marketing cost vs DAU and retention

otherwise its just hearsay

tbf other games are doing creator reward too. im sure we will support this if we can see that the initiatives are bringing considerable DAU

what is the conversion rate tarren

Cost : 266 ILV / week
Benefit : DAU? Retention?
What is your kpi?

[red geyser]

Not exactly. But the plan is sometime in q2

[sonic dagger]

hoping a testnet for PB4

test the integration

2 months to go

[crystal olive]

I don't think your reasoning is misguided at all. But here's where I think going early is really beneficial. It's goes far beyond any metrics, it's more psychological.

Once Web3 really takes off, there will be hoards of people flocking into games, but then also flocking out at a similar rate. This could be because they're confused, they don't think the juice is worth the squeeze, or they see another influencer video and keep jumping to what they think are greener pastures. The shame of all of this is that people will be leaving Illuvium without even really understanding all it has to offer. We obviously don't want that. By getting them in early, before the hype cycle, we can get them into the ecosystem as a whole, understanding the procedures, the lore, the value proposition, the future aspirations, all of it. You can get them to really buy in now, so they won't just leave for the next shiny object. So by the time things get crazy in Web3-land, we'll have even more hardcores who will likely have gone and have told their friends too. And if some of those people also happen to be influencers....

[fierce vine]

yeah it would be really easy to show how successful it was if DAU was published, KPI published, retention # were published. For now it just seems like a burn without any return. @crystal olive I'll try to respond in a bit sorry can't read all that right now hanging out with the little lady before bed

[gentle egret]

I want to use my illuvials on my land on Zero as well....

😉

[crystal olive]

No worries. I think marketing goes far beyond metrics personally, so I'm not in a position to debate those.

[errant osprey]

Hi, can anyone tell me when Illuvium zero game will go live? Or still in testing phase?

[dark flame]

q2 if we get lucky late q1

[young bone]

Well said.

[young bone]

I see it the same way. Trickles lead to floods and the more we can get out there the better. There will be a massive campaign when the team is ready to go.
I think the focus DAU is too heavy ATM as we don't have a full game loop.
Even if we just get people looking, learning about the whole ecosystem, having a small play or just enquiring, a long with not hiding the web3 aspect is a plus.

[crystal olive]

And most Web2 franchises take the exact same approach. You hear about the game well before it's released, and for good reason.

[ruby nova]

This game looks awesome I wish they would use ICP to make it fully on blockchain. Don’t really want to pay the gas ETH fees as well. Mobile sounds fun

[timber torrent]

noneed for icp already inprogress

[sage falcon]

2025?

[rigid reef]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-maybe-gif-20413224

[red geyser]

imx is nice ⤵️

[narrow vigil]

Immutable X - Layer 2

Illuvium utilizes Immutable X as its layer 2 solution, providing cost-effective transactions. This means that minting and trading Illuvials will be free of network gas fees, while only transferring funds between the Ethereum Mainnet and Immutable X will incur gas fees. By reducing the cost of transactions, players can maximize their potential gains.

[lusty mantle]

[red geyser]

Good morning

[lusty mantle]

So with Grant leaving, is Illuvium labs still located in UAE?

[sonic dagger]

investors look at DAU

[pearl crest]

No they are moving it to North Korea

[lusty mantle]

Can a <@&795142782133207063> confirm this?

[sonic dagger]

lol

i was called names, not sure the bot is still up

or moderation is as strict

[trim basin]

Have we considered capture power as a variable between shard levels?

[young bone]

Yep I understand that.

[young bone]

Licking of the foot butter?

[lusty mantle]

It's the best

[simple patrol]

Salty

[sage falcon]

Wen Kim Jong Illuvial

[sonic dagger]

wen jag easter egg

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-easter-egg-easter-egg-hunt-simpsons-gif-13718359

[sage falcon]

Wen Jag Bucks in game currency

Jag is lore

[split mirage]

Hello I've received an Illuvium NFT (airdrop 500$) in Immutable it's a scam?

[narrow vigil]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[lusty mantle]

It's always a scam, no free stuff here

[narrow vigil]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[split mirage]

Ok ty!

[sonic dagger]

our friendship

[lusty mantle]

Everything has a price

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-wallet-i-am-broke-no-money-no-cash-gif-24120042

[elfin fractal]

....

[hard linden]

anyone giving scholarship?

[inland turret]

Afternoon

[vast spear]

From what I know, Polemos do it on their lands.

[hard linden]

ok copy

[umbral hearth]

Gm

[wispy kindle]

gm

[burnt flower]

i am stuck on my 2nd acc now

both accs stuck in the game

[red geyser]

How has your interaction with support gone? What’s your ticket?

[near pier]

Gm

[burnt flower]

Ticket #20201. There is no answer ..

[red geyser]

Sorry to hear that. Thanks for opening the ticket. Should help get that issue fixed

[civic carbon]

help me i have e-mail about rewards
this site is scam?
illuvium-rewards io/ rewards php?

[narrow vigil]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[brave forge]

hola alguien en español

como hago para poder jugar

necesito algun tipo de acceso

[lusty mantle]

Just download the game from the epic store

or ask in #1025487808225345596

[analog thistle]

Is there any place where we could follow game stats? I dont know how is it going since the launch

[storm rain]

No

[analog thistle]

And whats the general view on the game launch?

[lusty mantle]

I generally view it on my computer screen

[analog thistle]

when is illuvitar sale expected?

[limber arch]

Hello 👋

[red geyser]

Emails are always scams

[fervent idol]

I have been very negative about illuvium lately, and I insisted A LOT on having Illuvials roaming around OW.
I just listened to the latest Kieran interview and he said they will be in the OW before open beta. That is good.
When is open beta expected?

[sonic dagger]

Q2

[thick jasper]

Wen PB4? 😄

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520

[noble dagger]

I'm feeling like Palworld just saved Illuvium cause it showed exactly what I was thinking OW should look similar to.

[rough mauve]

I bought an apple mac min m2 pro with 16 gb Ram 512 ssd is this enough to play the game ?

[red geyser]

Should work.

[gilded prairie]

Is palworld good or something

[noble dagger]

It's the top selling game of all time at launch.

[tiny latch]

Yes absolutely.

The game play loop is really good

I beg the devs can take notes immediately. There is no need to experiment. There's a formula that works already.

[cinder birch]

Yes, I also hope so much that they will bring this forward to 2024!!

[rigid escarp]

its not realistic for initial launch tho

[tardy horizon]

Hero’s of Mavia hit 1M downloads. We were well ahead of them for a city builder.

Thanks to all the land holders that cried when many of us wanted to include raiding in the game.

If you’re building a game of interoperable games it might be an idea to make the lore so lax that you can literally create any game the community ask for.

[charred lily]

overated like a mem coin in crypto.
the overall quality is catastrophic but like a good fast food, it gives you a lot of dopamine

[tardy horizon]

About a year ago I pitched a new take of clash of clans.

It uses the overworld and Illuvium zero assets.

Your base in in the Overworld, it’s like COC though as a main character in 3rd person you get a new view. You can use Mozart to get a higher view to construct your base.

You use portals to enter other regions and raid other bases in a combination of 3rd person and top down isometric view.

[covert violet]

yeah that's what it is, hits all the check boxes for gaming instant gratification. In terms of longevity, i don't know.

Personally, I think Illuvium can be better. It's harder to learn but more rewarding if you put in the effort.

[charred lily]

it can be, with money and 2 or 3 more years

[covert violet]

this team did have many things on it's plate. once the ecosystem goes live i think we'll forget about all the delays and complaints

[young bone]

Maybe, yet then you may as well just call it Roblox v2 because that's what will happen.
I think they got the right balance with the gaming IP proposal.

[sage falcon]

Damn they missed that release too? Painful....

[sage falcon]

First mover advantage is huge and gone...

[manic osprey]

Have you put your money in Uranus yet?

[sage falcon]

We live in a society that longevity does not matter... people got 5 seconds time span and move on to the next. It's just today's reality.

[young bone]

My feelings are thats more about the type of game. Illuvium has a long term vision to build a game that people will stay in. They are not the only ones doing this. We haven't seen quality games in their fullness yet.

[young bone]

There is always churn in games. Churn leads to long time players

[young bone]

Lol.

[sage falcon]

Discord ded

[vast spear]

https://tenor.com/view/youthere-jimcarrey-lookingforyou-gif-6618647646222427570

[sage falcon]

Complaining because there used to be cool people here like Alberto and telloooo

[vast spear]

I feel like is empty as well.

[sage falcon]

It is

I said some shit and then went to class and came out and checked and my comment was the most recent.

[raw portal]

hi. im cool too i promise

[sage falcon]

Not just because I was talking utter nonsense

[sage falcon]

Welcome to the family, we've been waiting for you

The only time you WON'T see the fly is whilst you're holding the spray can

And you'll always leave the spray can in some ridiculous spot

The spray can:

[raw portal]

i dont buy that
flies fear me by default

[sage falcon]

You must smell like the opposite of shit

Not me. I stink

I'm a 5th generation heir to some of the foulest pheremones known to pseudoscience

[raw portal]

yes, i grow roses under my bed

[sage falcon]

Welcome to leaving the family. You don't fit in here ser

How many caravans have you built?

[young bone]

I'm here

[sage falcon]

Finally. God

[raw portal]

3
1 for me and 2 for the roses

[sage falcon]

You absolutely cannot judge the quality of a game's graphics based on how active their discord is. Ok.

[sage falcon]

Sounds fake

[young bone]

I have to go to the shops in bit though. Then I'm going to jump in.

[sage falcon]

Xxxxxxxx

[raw portal]

its not. im building the 4th one for the illuvials

[sage falcon]

Waste of money but ok

[raw portal]

its not my money. the illuvials pay me

[sage falcon]

Have you ever been arrested for second degree homicide

[raw portal]

yes. the rose community did it when i forgot to water them 1 day

[sage falcon]

And have you bred your own Siamese fighting fish

[raw portal]

no?
fish smell bad ew

[sage falcon]

Just getting to know you

[sage falcon]

Almost racist

[raw portal]

i mean i grow the roses for a reason u know? fish dont fit in the picture

[sage falcon]

Alright you sound boring

Next

Where's Albertoo

[raw portal]

X_X

[remote sentinel]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1203783775541137478

[teal marten]

gm

[topaz holly]

Is anyone preparing a public response to what Vetimore said?

Has anyone told you before.... that you are quite the character @sage falcon

[sage falcon]

What happened to your alpha queen account I can't find it

[topaz holly]

Alpha Queen Account? 👸 🤔 💭 🤔.... I have no idea what that even means

I personally have no Alpha Queen as of Yet....

I guess I'm not one of the cool people who know what that means

[sage falcon]

Genuinely liked that account and thought I was following

Maybe it's gone

DM me

[narrow vigil]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[topaz holly]

Chill out Moz4rt.... sheesh!

I tried its autoblocking me

I sent a friend request also

[sage falcon]

Hmm lemme check

Try now

[topaz holly]

Got it ✅️

[woeful socket]

Hey all. I started with Illuvium around Aug 2021. I took a good sized position and staked everything I bought. At first it was the ILV pool before moving on to the Sushi pool. Sadly I just sat down to do taxes and I realized I've been hacked. My MM wallet is at 0, my sushi is at 0, and my Illuvium rewards (which should have been pretty sweet by now) are at .022 ILV. Interetingly, Aperture shows I have remaining position of ~2..6K . I'm wondering if someone can take a look at this and help me put the puzzle pieces together.
I took an 8K beating on ILV, so not happy all around, but I would like to figure out why Apeture shows me a glimmer of light

[oblique slate]

Very sad to hear that. I'm not exactly sure which metrics this application uses to check balances, but if you have any open positions within the stake, it might be detecting that. Since your case is more complex, contact support at #❓❓〕support so they can take a thorough look with you.

[young bone]

I thought about it, yet he wouldn't take me seriously.
Maybe someone whom he respects.

[woeful socket]

THanks Tariq

[thick cedar]

Sad to see someone who was on council go off the rails

[topaz holly]

I was more just wondering if there will be an "official statement" ?

Is there anywhere that shows info about all the roles people can get in here?

[thin elbow]

Official statement about what?

[sage falcon]

Oh vetemor is right I said the same thing yesterday illuvium is not a full web3 blockchain game it's just some metadata on chain

Nothing secret about that? But vetemor is very very guilty of pumping ILV and making absolute nonsense predictions on token price years ago. Where is his integrity?

Of course founders had all insider info on delays... and not scoping things right, overspending, no proper focus... we all know that.

[manic osprey]

What about your integrity? Fudding all day like there is no tomorrow.

[sage falcon]

I show facts and data

[manic osprey]

You talk nonsense.

[sage falcon]

Agree just someone his opinion... everyone needs to do their own research

[young bone]

Yes, such as your opinion.

[sage agate]

Urgent: Claim Your Unclaimed Rewards Now !

Received this email subject, is it scam?

[narrow vigil]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[dusty plank]

Yes, it's a scam.

[fierce vine]

What data did you provide? Not arguing I just don’t see where you posted data. Also if we are being technical nfts really are just metadata on chain. There’s ways to get around that and have everything be fully on chain, ie inscriptions, but Illuvium isn’t really doing anything different than other gamefi projects

[sage falcon]

Provided a few screenshots, wallet addresses, quotes from people, ways to simulate buy and sell impact. Etc

[young bone]

Sorry FoxPhoenix, I'm going to re-reply as I felt I came across a bit arrogant.
Personally I don't feel it's warranted, yet I believe if the team feels it is, they will.
I think I'm just getting over all the recent negativity.
All people have to do is play a few other web3 games, look around at other blockchain games that are building the same way Illuvium is and it becomes apparent where they are now and where they are headed.
You could always ping Aaron or Keiran. If you think it's needed.
I'm pretty sure one of them will answer you.

[lusty mantle]

What did he say

Found it

[split lintel]

Why would they?

I like many of the points he made, but they don't invalidate Illuvium? Does every game need blockchain, probably not, I'd say a majority don't. But it doesn't make Blockchain or web 3 bad in nature? It's just another technology to use

[old folio]

What did vet say?

[thick cedar]

everyone has varying degrees on what the success of the game should be like, just can't wait for OB to divide fact from fiction

[old folio]

damn

[lean sigil]

lots of negatively lately

[topaz holly]

It wasnt meant as an opening of a can of worms that I mentioned it

[glossy elm]

Vet has strong opinions, yet every time they're discussed thoroughly both within Council and with various Admins he folds and agrees.

[topaz holly]

just wanted the Devs to know

[lusty mantle]

Just sharing what people are talking about 🙂 I don’t really give my opinion here anymore since I don’t wanna get banned

[topaz holly]

i checked prior to mentioning it.... He doesnt exixt in this server... if he did, I would have directly pulled him aside and asked him myself

[glossy elm]

He and his clique of edgelord haters should move on and get a life

[lusty mantle]

That’s the spirit

[glossy elm]

It's the same shit, he throws out some edgy post based on misinformation - His fellow council members as well as the admin team waste precious hours talking through his feedback and explaining why he's missing the mark, only to do it all again 3-months later.

Every admin has spent hours of their time discussing Vet's proposals, showing him respect by listening intently, and ultimately voting on his proposals.

[plain delta]

We had a basic version of Arena done in Unity, before we changed to Unreal. That was 2020. The backend pieces have taken much longer than we estimated and I've said that for a long time. In the end it's our fault and I'm not making excuses. But there are a lot of people that think they know things that they don't know.

[lusty mantle]

Next time you post the screenshot, now I’m getting the replies 😆

[lean sigil]

sooooo kieran in last ama said we will see illuvials in OW for open beta...thats good news, hope we can push them off cliffs lol

[plain delta]

Certainly not meant to be a reply 'at you. Just responding to stuff with is demonstrably false.

[topaz holly]

oops ... just tell them it was my fault ..... sorry

[tired hazel]

How about we scrap everything

and build Illuvium moba

where the gameplay involves paying real ETH

[tiny latch]

What do you mean? They had success on their initial launch.

[lyric pumice]

Damn more drama😭 not that it’s unwarranted idk anything about it

[lusty citrus]

I find it hilarious someone can think that making Overworld was the wrong choice even after seeing Palworlds success. Baseless claims make the author seem oblivious to the gaming ecosystem.

[green mirage]

hmm, I wonder what happened to him

[old folio]

open world action adventure/survival is like the biggest genre

[covert violet]

just a disgruntled midget

[lusty citrus]

So far Scoriox’s poll proves this point

[storm rain]

Ola

Buenos dias

[small coral]

I haven't seen much of vets video content lately but he seemed so chill in ones I've seen in the past, it's weird to see him low-key rage on Twitter/discord lol. Kinda out of character from what I've seen in his video content

[old folio]

I thought the same lol

[small coral]

@plain delta saw your recent amas, you're definitely not the "boring one". I've always enjoyed watching your amas, very well spoken and passionate about illuvium so always great to see 💯 I did want to ask you mentioned there was an AI balancing the game, is that currently being used to balance the game or is it still being built?

[old folio]

Good question, was also wondering this

[storm rain]

Pls delay kukkas

2hour

[plain delta]

Still being built. I think I said that on the AMA. We use data to do it, but it's manual.

FYI there is a counter to frost that people aren't playing. But also we are doing a patch asap to tone it down.

[young bone]

I want someone to find the counter. Maybe it's been too easy and now they can't handle the heat 😁

PS that was a cheeky challenge for the players out there.

[plain delta]

Let's be clear. There should be MANY counters. And this is on us to get the balance right. So I'm not trying to say it's all good because something has one counter.

[small coral]

I haven't been able to play recently cause my monitor is f'd. But frost is water and air right? First that comes to mind would be double plant, I've forgot the name

[dense grove]

Verdant
I tried it. It didn't work but that could also be my placement tbh.

[small coral]

Keen, great idea to balance it that way

[small coral]

That's right, it was my go to when I was playing. Ranger with plant shield, paired with sloth. Then Archie as well, real easy to way to get 3

[young bone]

I get it. It was tongue and cheek with a little bit of jab. Trying to throw some fun in the mix.
I'm not very good at PvP, yet even I noticed the difference.
Usually I can have some matches that leave me feeling fulfilled even though I still lose.

I'm feeling we could do with a fun injection and some connection.
Perhaps a community vs team PvP event next patch.
With some kind of, ridiculous teams only, rule.

[rigid escarp]

i think what we really need, is a lot of communication about progress moving into the next months, imo we are entering a few critical months.
and i think there is a lot of value in taking us with u guys more closely on the road to launching OB.
It could legit be anything, short video's maybe a stream while working talking about stuff.
i like the ama's and talks we had over the past 2 weeks, q2 is soon, we will need the blockchain part out pretty soon so we can start testing.

having a closer view on development, will get rid of friction.
it will create a more stable relationship, and more understanding if we run into problems (or delays).
if we delay after months of ''soon'' meme's it will be a absolute RIP to the community.

we cannot afford more delays

[plain delta]

I'll strongly disagree with this one. The closer we've had people to the game the more friction there has been. Sometimes to an unbearable amount. No team is as accountable to the community as us, and that's fine. But sometimes it can be good to not have someone on your shoulder telling you why THEIR oppinion is the only one to follow, especially when there are many different ways to do something and many focal points of the games. It's not easy to deal with sometimes.

[normal python]

It's healthy to have these conversations though. Agree or not there's still questions web3 need to answer about the technology in gaming

[rigid escarp]

Ye fair i get that, but its more about absolute key systems, not the details.
Maybe its just me, but i feel like i know nothing about what the actual progress is, meanwhile we have 5 months left to hit q2 launch.
i understand we have the games playable.
im just worried about the time we will have left for testing, we will need a pretty decent amount of time to properly test our blockchain work.

[plain delta]

Releases will come much faster now. With new features. That is probably the best way for you to know our progress. Things will happen much more quickly as the puzzle pieces fall into place.

[glossy elm]

There is healthy debate between two individuals that want to work towards the betterment of the product and there is sharing misinformed bs on social media.

I was the first one to send a DM to Vet thanking him for the stance he took on Overworld Pricing/Price Rails, because it forced a conversation and ensured we were able to justify a decision.

[small coral]

Completely agree, with a normal AAA game we get maybe 2 or 3 trailers before launch and that's literally it for communication, maybe one or two 15 min interviews if we're lucky. I think people are eager just cause they've invested money, but we should all collectively take a step back as a community imo, for everyone's sake. A watched pot never boils

[rigid escarp]

listen man, i get it and its not about the details and the actual direction of the games. i think 90% of the community is happy with pivots and new directions taken.
its more about the key systems that make a q2 launch possible, blockchain being the biggest hurdle i see we need to tackle.
we need extensive testing to make sure we are not launching it with exploits in it that could break the games and or the economy.
we need time to properly stress test, and work on issues we find.

5 months is not a lot of time, just saying

The struggle comes from that the investors are the customers for now. its hard to mix those 2.

[forest warren]

Vetemor is right in the sense that assets are not on the blockchain. If illuvium goes down. Server goes down. What will I have left ?

Can I create a game using illuvium IP ? No. Illuvium will go against or need a partnership.

Even if IP wasn’t an issue, can I create a game using illuvium assets ? No. I’ve to rebuild all assets.

Even if I could, would I ? No. - all project made money selling nft, why reuse the nft of another project ?

This big ownership thing work only if

• illuvium is a success
• illuvium never dies

It diminish massively the argument innit ?

In the meantime, I can use my magic cards, even if magic the gathering goes down and die. I will always have my cards at all time and can reuse them whenever I want.

Ok vetemor wording was a tad direct and put in a very straight forward way, but message shape aside, the meaning behind is correct.

Happy to be corrected though, just my thinking.

[glossy elm]

No, we store files on AWS and utilize CloudFront, a globally distributed network of servers caching assets across the globe with 99.9% uptime.

[forest warren]

And I don’t really see all you’ve done guy go open source, like, ever. Even if illuvium goes down.

[forest warren]

You need to pay for it ?

[glossy elm]

Sure, I'm referring to the idea that 'Illuvium goes down' , the entire global network of servers would need to drop.

[forest warren]

Well it have a cost and any cdn have a cost, so no money, my “assets” are reduced to 0 and 1 and a dead link.

That’s the point of ownership…. Again my magic cards can still be played and resale to be played by someone else.

No money, no server, no asset. I own a dead link.

[glossy elm]

Sure, I don't disagree

[forest warren]

So I own my asset, only if illuvium lives.

That’s just what I’m saying.

[crystal valley]

how long does it take for eth bridged from eth chain to land in imx?

[glossy elm]

The Collection would still be live on Immutable, and you would still own the NFT.

If you want to get into semantics 😅

[forest warren]

Yeah no but we talk ownership lol

Have to be clear

[split lintel]

Just thought I'd provide some semblence of evidence

[forest warren]

That it’s ownership only in a specific case

[glossy elm]

Ultimately I don't disagree with some of what Vetemor has to say, but he always twists fact and truth to fit his hate-filled, edgy 'hot-take'

[crystal valley]

yup, even if illuvium shuts down, someone can create a pokemon collecting game that uses your illuvials, nfts are open for everyone and are immutable on the blockchain

[glossy elm]

Considering we did nothing but treat him with respect and spent hours talking him through reasoned decisions, it's garbage to be honest.

[forest warren]

Ahhhh I admit the looks and feel may be perceived negatively. But the underlying facts ….

[glossy elm]

He states Arena dev only started 6-months ago? So I provide our Release history since 2021

[split lintel]

That's hard to hear 😦 I know how hard u work Nick

[forest warren]

It’s like if I own a lambo, Lamborghini goes down. I can still drive my car.
People will reverse engineer parts for me to repair.

[split lintel]

I mean Arena dev 6 months ago is a weird statement. Obviously putting the illuvials into survival mode is a part of that development cycle

But its all a matter of perspective

[glossy elm]

I enjoyed working with the guy, I don't see why he can't come with well considered, even-keeled and actionable feedback.

[split lintel]

I can reverse engineer most things 🙂 Spent 6 months training on some pretty crazy software. Kinda wish I did that full time sometimes, such a whacky profession

[forest warren]

Ok that I don’t know, I am on the ownership thing, because I always though it’s a bs argument used by a lot but when you know a bit the tech behind, you know it’s not the reality of things.

Again, if illuvium have money to pay for server, then no issue.

But here we can deviate into the blockchain decentralization topic 🤣

[forest warren]

Yeah sure, but as I said, it’s better, chepaer, and will make me wayyyy more money to sell my own NFTs.

[fierce zealot]

Greetings guys. Could you help me with this information?

How do I know which are the tankrs, assassins, long distance characters, melee? Etc

[forest warren]

3 years waiting, people are on edge.

Gentle reminder, he fucked up his life for you guys based on your release timings… he quit his job and all that at the time to give everything to illuvium. I can understand the guy isn’t shaping his message to be accepted easily.

I’m not here to debate this though.

Let’s just stay on the people are on edge thing 🤣

[spring hollow]

Well i was the one he initially sent the message to on Whatsapp that he then screenshoted to post on X for an unknown reason, that's why there's no filter. If that helps for anything...

[glossy elm]

Left his job based on a startups release plan?

[spring hollow]

This was his own decision though and blaming anyone else for it doesn't make sense imo.

[glossy elm]

Ultimately, I only wish him well. Don't get me wrong. I just dislike the thought of people with a voice spreading misinformation because the DAO has to work twice as hard to share all the good we're doing behind the scenes.

[forest warren]

Give him the respect you expect him to give you. It's difficult, but ultimately the best way to bring the discussion on a adult-to-adult stance.

[glossy elm]

As I say, I've spent hours speaking with him and enjoyed those interactions.

[forest warren]

I'm sure you did.

And understand it's hurting when people attack

[spring hollow]

I have no clue how right or wrong his claim is.
But just to make sure, let's say the DAO would have a serious and legitimate doubt on that, what ways would the DAO have to verify? Is it even something we can verify? I don't think we have somewhere stored everysingle previous internal build do we?

But also with all due respect and aware of my own ignorance on what challenges the team had to overcome when building PvP.
It does seem a bit weird that from April 2022 release of PB1 it took then 18 months to go from that state to the actual state of PvP so even though i don't support those claims, also can't blame people for thinking so.

[rigid escarp]

i think it slowly slips into everyone's mind, that these upcoming months are critical, if we launch in q2 lets say in JUNE worst case.
we will have 6 months of runway left.
that leaves us with very little time to pivot when the revenue sucks, and we cant maintain our costs.

u cant really blame anyone for overheating at this stage, its just time to show results, put our cards on the table and get the system working

[glossy elm]

Definitely

[eager river]

My first reaction was, this dude is too salty, wtf. But it may actually be necessary to get a bit more clarity on the subject of ownership. I mean it is the number one distinctive element, the entire '(r)evolutionary' aspect, actual ownership of assets. I know the stance Kieran has taken on it, but the more I think about it, I may actually be helpful to get a clearer understanding about what it means precisely within the Illuvium ecosytem. The rest of Vet's points I don't care much about, I can understand his frustration but that's about it

[rigid escarp]

Im not very happy with the runway, ofc we can sell our soul again for VC.
its so important we manage to launch before the bull run, and we can obtain VC in the middle of the bull run on our own terms.

[glossy elm]

I'm going to have to head to sleep, but I'd be keen to talk more about ownership tomorrow

[young bone]

That would be awesome. I have little knowledge on the finer details of this area.

[eager river]

Appreciate that have a good night's sleep man. With regards to future options with the ownership, would love to see that be discussed but for now I understand just getting to OB

[rigid escarp]

The shorter our runway is, the more VC will realise we need them and we will have to bend for there terms again.

[eager river]

Way more important to not fuck up with the blockchain implementation though

[spring hollow]

That is a fair concern.

[rigid escarp]

Oh ye for sure, thats why im trying to ask for updates on the core systems, but we get none.
I can only assume we got it under control.
IMO we need extensive testing, and we need time to work on flaws.
5 months left to q2 release and in my mind, we need months of testing

[young bone]

Even with all these concerns and fears, does it help to be in that space.
See the negative move forward with the goal. Fear can crush things.

[young bone]

Id say they are fully aware of this.

[rigid escarp]

i think its pretty valid points that are being made, and i dont expect the team to constantly defend there work, its not healthy.
but i also think we all feel the need of results and generating our own income to sustain our costs.
we cant be on VC welfare forever, nor can we keep asking the community to buy more X or Y.

[young bone]

I have been considering what you said about ownership.
Please correct me I'm wrong, yet everything in life is an illusion of ownership.
Wow could end and everyone loses all their time and money.
Your house could burn down or be destroyed by flood, you lose all your cards.
The internet goes down everywhere catastrophe.
All we can do is live with what we have.
Do the best to mitigate loss and stay focused on the goal.
That's a rule for everything in life. Or we would all end up in heap of misery and give a fuckery.

[rigid escarp]

the example for me is, as a illuvium maxi for the past 2 years, ive chosen to invest new money into other projects, altho my preference would be ILV.

[young bone]

I spread my investments from the beginning. That's the number one investment rule I learnt in my 20s.

Nothing is ever 100 percent certain.
With vet he chooses fear based communication instead of constructive discourse. So we enter the conversation in a negative space.
Yet from what I've witnessed with the ILV DAO and community over 3 years is it builds stronger from these events. I wish it was different sometimes though.
We don't see the affects we have on the people actually making the game.
In the other games I've invested in. This conversation would never happen. Team members simply wouldn't engage in them.
That's the decentralization part.
The ownership part in all its parts will definitely be interesting to discover more about. I've never thought too much about it. Because ultimately it's something I know little about and ultimately may have little control over.

[storm rain]

ey i want to say a thing

[young bone]

Say your thing Cappa

😁

[rigid escarp]

i still think we have the best team, and strongest community.
im still here, the money is still in, but i just wanna see results so bad.
its probaly part of being in the final stages towards a major launch, just nerve wrecking.

[storm rain]

We live in a world in which anything that has value becomes a business, ownership is not bad, it educates you to know what you have and its value.

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-tate-tate-andrew-toxort-hu-gif-26567443

[young bone]

Cappa ❤️❤️❤️

[young bone]

I want it to succeed so badly. Not just for me, yet for everyone.
The vision, the ideals, the amazing game.
The willingness of the team to share with us and the amazing work they have done to create what they have in 3 years.
Like wow! No one is even close to ILV.

I can't even imagine the workload they have had.

[normal python]

My concern isn't that illuvium doesn't have the potential to succeed. My concern is that the project doesn't have the time on its side needed to realise that success.

Each month that goes by is another month with no revenue. The project simply can't carry on like this for much longer

[terse plaza]

Any support team here I need help

[boreal gale]

Fun fact, most banks now rely on AWS/Azure for their infrastructure, without that, you dont see your bank balance.

[rigid escarp]

#❓❓〕support go here, dont respond to dm's, they are all scammers.

[narrow vigil]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[rigid escarp]

Ye, when we launch in q2, we have 6 months runway left, it leaves us with no time to pivot if revenue sucks.
its just time to get revenue, we running out of time

just hope we are in for a suprise, we launch the test version very very soon, we test for a good period of time and we go live.
im just not convinced we have the time to test and adjust/fix flaws if we get a test version of it later then this month.

[pseudo flint]

IMO (btw not replying to you directly . Just quoted to add the image you posted to my reply) of the project from someone following this since 2021

OVERWORLD is and always has been the Main game Crown Jewel, Keystone of the ILLUVIUM franchise . It is ILLUVIUM it is the dream and what will bring in the people . I believe it is where the majority of time will be spent on

Could have launched by itself ON TIME and been successful and profitable as a exploration and collection game it didn't need anything else ( like they turned beyond into )

Arena is nothing more than niche side dish assets and only for the niche sub group who like pvp and ** "e-sports" is even less than that again** for these who like "watch "competitive players and seem to need to "prove " themselves in a public form. It way to complex and IMO should have had more AUTO and FUN mechanics.

Example three rows melee ranged support does not matter where you put them just throw your illuvials on the fields and the best team wins so that someone doesn't need a master degree in arena to know all the intricacy .

Zero is nothing more than just a limited edition ( 100 000 lands) mini companion game proof of concept they took 5% from one revenue stream ( ** $50 000 per million taken from the ILV Stakers revenue for the land owner revenue pool ** ) as a " bonus" to entice people to play it really was not mean for anything more than than proof of concept to build a mobile game at the time but seem to have helium pumped into it so it seems bigger and more grandiose "investment" that its original intent,

Beyond is just the Illuvitar concept PFP project - again helium injected and changed to appear larger than intent

[old folio]

@near pier player #s soon?

[small coral]

Isn't this the exact same with every single other game ever made lol?

Except with other games you never even got to own them

[mossy grove]

Theres ‘working on it in the background’ and then theres ‘prioritising it and working on it full force’

Considering about a 2 year gap from PB1 up to Arena Beta and now its apparently being reworked and that rework will be done in 3 months?

Either im dumb and cant understand how that could take 2 years and suddenly a rework in a few months or something doesnt add up

Also about 4 month before Arena came out Kieran was asked in an AMA how Arena progress is going and answered something like “we’ve started prioritising it 2 months ago and its still in the early stages”

I may be paraphrasing there slightly but “in the early stages” and then 4 months later its out… but apparently its been developed for 2 years?

You can be “working” on something in the background for decades or you can be “actively working” on something in the foreground

I’m not trying to spread fud, just saying things how I see them, not tryna be “edgy” just was discussing all these in a private chat w a friend and thought the take was worth sharing, so i shared it, nothing more too it, its not done w malice I just like sharing my opinion unfiltered publicly and talking shit out w anyone that feels like discussing, sorry if its grating or whatever but also not sorry

[mossy grove]

In response to this 👆

[pallid dune]

That makes a lot of sense imo. You might take a couple years to get all the assets for the game ready and get the building blocks in place. But I work in software and know that a rework is not done in 4 months. A new feature like illuvials in the overworld isn't added in 4 months either. I heard the team did a PoC for this a year ago, but from what I can make of it, they didn't actually start working on it "full force" until a few months ago.
All this goes to show that we won't be releasing in q2. Not in a polished state at least.

[forest warren]

Absolutely but when you use ownership as the most important argument to explain "Why blockchain" and it's being crush in 2 sentences, you've no more selling arguments.

Again, there is no need to be different than other to succeed. What I say is that if we want that to be a selling argument, we better have it rock solid. Currently, it's not.

[sonic dagger]

wow

took a break from grinding mavia

and discord turned into this

[sonic dagger]

hi vete

[wraith ridge]

Ownership means, you own the characters and game assets and play them in multiple games, instead of paying for a new game or a game pass.

It should be obvious to anyone following this project.

It has also been 100% obvious from the beginning, that nobody (except the DAO) would own the source code or the IP nor that all game interactions would be on the blockchain.

Anyone making this into a HUGE issue now, wants to spread fud. Doesn't surprise me that Vetemor is involved.

[forest warren]

That's a bit too far fetch to me, absolutely true and I agree with you.

But ownership is "possessing something". An Illuvial on the blockchain will be medata, that's it. You won't be able to use it, play with it, display it. So you will own a bunch of data.

For mainstrem, this ownership thing need way more strengh than that.

Again: if Illuvium fade and die.

If Illuvium strive then yes it's all unicorn farting rainbows.

It just difficult to justify to someone a bit techy that he "own the asset"

When we don't own the 3d model, if illuivum goes down then your nft goes down, etc. etc.

[young bone]

So are you saying you would like ownership to do whatever you want with it? Or that hasn't been defined. I think I remember one of the team saying, it wouldn't be like that. Like we can't just use the metadata how we want.
This is similar to most games out there.
I'm not sure why this is an issue so close to launch. When really our support should be behind them succeeding.

[small coral]

Isn't it going to be on the imx chain?

[young bone]

Yes Nick said that.

[forest warren]

If I remember only Start Atlas have developped pieces of their code fully on the blockchain, it means that servers goes down, SA labs goes down, you can still use your assets, they are there and the code of the game is there, you can keep running it, people can build on top of it.

Very different

[forest warren]

I'm not saying it's an issue.

It's a way of building the team have used.

My point is, as selling argument, it's weak. We need better reason to play the game than ownership.

Because this argument isdestroyed easily.

It'll never convince mainstream.

At least, to me it won't.

Happy to be wrong though.

[small coral]

My interpretation is that the team made 'making a good game' the first priority

[forest warren]

And that's great.

I'm not talking about that at all, but that's great.

It just won't stand any chance to convince people as main selling point.

[small coral]

Gamers spend so much money on games to buy something that's 100% digital. I don't think gamers have a problem with it

[young bone]

I think most people would be looking at it differently like not really even think about blockchain and ownershio that way, Im guessing you'd need a fair bit of knowledge for that or even how you use it.. perhaps the term just got taken up and used out of its true meaning within the blockchain space.
I'm keen to learn more.
Yet would rather focus on the near future.
For someone that does understand it, I can see why you like it to be clarified.
How do you explain the way it is now though. Ownership may be the easiest way to get the concept of what Illuvium is to people who lack that technical knowledge?

[forest warren]

Yep.

Exactly my point, it won't convince them, and can't really be used to gain traction with mainstream.

[young bone]

Thanks for clarifying. 🙂
Maybe it's something to pin for later.
It kind of reinforces for me how hard it is to connect this new tech to everyone.
Small steps I guess.

I do feel quite seriously though now is one of those times to do what we can to support the whole team to get through these next few months, with some of their sanity intact.
Imagine having thousands of bosses all on your ass. All with different needs and wants.😅

[sage falcon]

There's new tech, and then there's this

[young bone]

Lol

[sage falcon]

That's more than an hour

[forest warren]

I think, like a lot of tech. People don't give a shit.

I'm in deep discussion these days, EDI, File transfer, API .... in the end ... no one cares what's underlying, they jsut want things to work.

Blockchain, NFTs, crypto, it's a tech layer. Ownership don't matter.

[sage falcon]

I might own an Illuvial but it can't be used unless there's a game

I don't own the game

But I do own the token. And it's supposedly autonomous

But I can't force Labs to keep existing

[young bone]

Yeah I think you are right. Personally there is only so much information I can handle, and if it's something I can leave to 'trust' and it doesn't affect me too much, I'm going to let that go.

[young bone]

Thanks for the chat. Lelahel.

[young bone]

Nope. We can certainly put our energy behind the team to propel them forward.

[sage falcon]

I entered the chat and jumped in, sorry

I don't even know what you were talking about

I just needed to show you the Eminem video

[forest warren]

For mainstream they need a killer narrative to cut trought the crowd and sell the products

[young bone]

Yeah, I don't see mainstream web2 yet.
Yet stranger things have happened.

[small coral]

The lore is meant to be 💯

[young bone]

Haha it was a nice distraction.

[small coral]

Cinematic trailer will hopefully raise some eyebrows

[young bone]

It sounds so intriguing. Cant wait

[young bone]

Yep. From the TL streams there were a few quickly interested, some that changed their minds after Aaron, Nick and Keiran answered their questions.
My thoughts from what I see around the space. Web3 first some web2 audience. The game gains traction, super mainstream 😍 maybe even viral.

[small coral]

Yeah I think when they have bigger and bigger prize pool tournaments it will get more and more attention

Also you just know the media will eat up "gamer catches holographic ramphyre worth $20k"

[dense zealot]

Everything is resting on the amazing strength of the Lore? Whoever penned this probably can put Philip K Dick top shame.

That's a lot of pressure - is the team so confident they have this?

[small coral]

Hahah didn't say that

[young bone]

Omg yes!! Imagine the massive TL tournament. Huge prize pool! Massive audience.

[dense zealot]

Lelahel is correct - the ownership thing doesn't pass the sniff test.

[young bone]

Can we move past that now.

[dense zealot]

Sure I can

[lapis igloo]

When is open beta?

[dense zealot]

I honestly hope they can find something solid to hang their hat on. Maybe lore is it... Thats a big leap though.

[young bone]

It's been time for me. Last thoughts, what I see in illuvium is the potential. They have kelr building kept delivering. There isn't much more to put in to get the game rolling. To me they have proven they have what it takes time and time again.

[inland turret]

Gm

[young bone]

I think it will be the 3 games working together in sync that will be the clincher.

Night all.

[dense zealot]

Maybe. Good night I should do the same

[sonic dagger]

the IP is owned by illuvium labs pty ltd, a private company, not the dao

[dense zealot]

Just realised the time

[wraith ridge]

Yes, thanks for clarifying. But I don't know how things would play out, should this private company (registered in Dubai?) go out of of business. Especially since the DAO is now also registered in Dubai and they work together.

[eager river]

Mostly same for me. I do really understand the frustration people have with Illuvium 'going wide' approach. For example, Beyond is ok for me, pretty neutral about it. However the website experience can be heavily optimized. It's quite sluggish on my laptop, and some bugs with filters etc. However I would not want them to prioritise this now, at all. Which leaves a sub-par browsing experience, and no sight on improvement. Anyway I'm very positive about most of the rest and happy to see where they take everything. Also like for them to just shield themselves off mostly and focus on the right priorities

[sonic dagger]

last time i checked, the IP was registed by illuvium labs in sydney, australia. afaik illuvium dao is yet to be registered in the UAE pending VARA

[eager river]

Also might be brave browser/my side of things

[wraith ridge]

You are right again 🙂

[dense zealot]

No its the same for me.

On three systems different OS and configs. Very buggy

[sonic dagger]

most NFTs are just hyperlinks.
the only nft u really "own" if its fully-onchain, which is not the case in ilv. the in-game assets are more like "rights to use". the only diff from web2 is the IP owner (ilv labs) allowed us to trade the in-game assets in marketplaces. please cmiiw

nothing to be concerned or discussed in length imo

its just jpegs, make your profit and move on

[dense zealot]

Should not be an issue when the assets are just a few cents or a buck or a few bucks for the really good ones

Or if you have a big market position like Steam... but even then GOG picked up customers because of uncertainty

[eager river]

But it IS the #1 selling point. So it would help whenever it would become clear how these assets could be used over different games at least. Not a prio right now but I do think it helped somewhat the way Vet has brought this up. If Kieran wants to consistently use it as the number 1 selling point then it would help to make it more tangible, asap

aka just confirm the kart game 100% 😉

[dense zealot]

I agree totally. There are ways this could be addressed. I personally would suggest clearing it up if this is a selling point of differentiation before the market points at projects masquerading as decentralised or web 3.

A Kart game sounds like it could be fun. Sometimes being fun is all you need.

[boreal gale]

Don't pay your rates or taxes and then you see who really owns your house...

"Buy and Own your home" is a major marketing line used by banks.

[rigid escarp]

ok listen, lets stop this ownership shite, lets focus on launching a game connected to the blockchain first ok.

what exactly are we gonna do about that now?
lets just build the game again but this time on icp, sure
lets get a product out and start generating revenue.

[dense zealot]

They have I think.

[rigid escarp]

soon

https://tenor.com/view/nfa-not-financial-advice-gif-14958757866583322990

[dense zealot]

That's less than half of what I paid but OK cool...

[charred lily]

around Open Bêta 😀

[dreamy mortar]

Hello everybody! When I access the website, some of the lettering appears white and some black. Since the background is dark I have a really hard time reading it, when I can. Where could I address this issue? Is there a channel for this or do I have to contact someone specifically?

[sonic dagger]

"the american dream" same as "breakfast is the most important meal"
its just marketing
and we should use any means necessary to sell some jpegs lol

[pearl crest]

How's the future, lambo owners doing ?

[rigid escarp]

Future Lada owner, sadge

[boreal gale]

Breakfast has such an interesting history...

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/forza-horizon5-lamborghini-huracan-lamborghini-driving-in-dirt-off-road-driving-gif-23434467

i have lambo

[lusty citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/apes-car-swag-money-gif-20294812

[minor mica]

Please don’t at last only if they say they plan on making the multiplayer FP shooter game first. A racing car game went help the numbers like a shooter will. Palworld proved that. Gamers like to Kill and fuck shit up lol a racing car game would be a cool mini game

[white sand]

dont give them ideas

let them finish what we paid for

first

[topaz holly]

If you are complaining because you bought $ILV at its peak and now your bag is in the red .... this isn't the place for that....

Crypto currencies will fluctuate....

At least this currency has a process which ensures it can only rise in value over time

[livid marten]

Breakfast there to slow down your system and make you into a corporate drone easier

[sonic dagger]

works well with the formal education system

[pearl crest]

What's a corporate drone ?

[livid marten]

I barely eat anything in the morning anymore. Just a little chicken or rice and then it’s a toss up if i eat much of a lunch. Workout after work and then I feast

[sonic dagger]

school is a factory to produce ready to use tools

change my mind

[pearl crest]

I never eat breakfast and I always wake up around 10-11h anyway.

[sonic dagger]

how do u work at kfc at that hour

AHA!

[pearl crest]

Night shift

Last time I woke up from an alarm In the morning was like 4 years ago

https://tenor.com/view/tate-aikido-gif-1698466879726485648

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[near pier]

Gm

[sonic dagger]

Gm

[pearl crest]

Mid night Gn 😴

[red geyser]

@deft parcel do not get scammed. Do not trust links.

Just go to the actual Illuvium website that you have saved in your bookmarks. Never trust links to claim or mint or connect

[deft parcel]

OK thanks

[lusty citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-minion-what-monday-happy-gif-25716360

[sleek wind]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/791148476218081321/1199556508665524306/GM.gif

[calm cypress]

gm

[sick granite]

gm

[simple patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-cute-dog-gif-2404046011272047514

[hybrid vault]

gm

[wet marlin]

gm

[burnt echo]

gm

[summer crypt]

Can we go back to before the new patch? 😭

[carmine island]

Good morning guys

[tender kraken]

Good evening

[thick jasper]

Why is Kieran kicking people out of his alliance from Heroes of Mavia?

[vale burrow]

good afternoon

[thick cedar]

Having a This is Sparta moment?

[lean sigil]

good to hear kieran is playing a fun game... wish illuvium was that fun 😂

[hallow kraken]

any pb4/testnet update?

[near pier]

Not anything past whats been in AMAs and townhall

[near pier]

A fix to Bears and Frost is coming

[summer crypt]

Yay!

[molten agate]

Good morning or evening everyone. Whereever your from, salutations to you all and I hope you all are enjoying your time here. I'm new and wanted to express myself in a voice chat with the developers as soon as possible.

[sonic dagger]

about what

[molten agate]

Stuff

[sonic dagger]

lol

Bugs?

[molten agate]

No

[sonic dagger]

or collab

[molten agate]

Investing in your amazing project

[sonic dagger]

oh

[hallow kraken]

found the townhalls and AMA's skipped talking about pb4. they just talked a lot about what is happening after open beta. It was great to hear from the founders. However, I am just as lost as to when anything is going to happen in the next few months.

[sonic dagger]

the community can help answer your questions

#💰〕token

@molten agate

[rigid escarp]

https://www.youtube.com/live/Ay9M3DEMtnk?si=60RaDGLb01rxz7BH
its the best i can find. at the start

[molten agate]

Please feel free to join me in voice. I'm going for my morning walk and then I'll be here ready to answer any questions you may have about my investment proposal 🙂

[rigid escarp]

damn this guy is serious

oiler

[sonic dagger]

wait, u want us to invest in you?

[molten agate]

Opposite way

[sonic dagger]

im so confused rn

[rigid escarp]

we talking 6 zero's?

[sonic dagger]

why are the dev be asking you questions

[molten agate]

Things don't just happen, things happen just!

[sonic dagger]

i hope the team can join u in vc

no promise

[dim grove]

good morning

[rigid escarp]

rich is on it, what a chad

[sonic dagger]

i gotta listen

[near pier]

lol

no response

[rigid escarp]

oiler ready to 2x the runway

[near pier]

You miss every shot you dont take

[sonic dagger]

we are saved

[oblique slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813013833400582154.gif?v=1

[rigid escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-cope-seethe-cope-seethe-dilate-cope-coffee-copeuccino-gif-25827917

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-16565229595323670098

finally we can get our moba

mobile moba

[hallow kraken]

appreciate the link. Already listened to it however. I'm excited for that release that Aaron talks about. Hopefully it is later this week. But what I am looking for is pb4 when all the games are connected and on testnet. Then we know we will be a few months away from Open beta. imo

[hearty jacinth]

good evening guys

[molten agate]

Hey Alpha.

[dim isle]

good evening

[near pier]

gm

[young bone]

Hey Slice,
Pb4 is before the release of OB roadmap says Q2.
The team will give us a solid date when they have one.
Game development is not an exact science.
The answer to your question has been given. Please respect the team and process.

[young bone]

Damn I broke the chain.

Gm

[worthy juniper]

gm

[steel finch]

Just saw vetemore's tweet. Has he gone rogue vs Illuvium? Lol

[novel oak]

Vet is just opinionated.

[lusty citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-wink-michael-scott-happy-face-satisfaction-gif-24411526

[sonic dagger]

gtg guys

[lusty citrus]

Imagina the Poodle moth crop dusting in the OW

[young bone]

Lol. Or the dust from its wings makes you dazed, or blinded.

[tawdry harbor]

some site where can i get comps ?

[young bone]

Call out to all those who love this game, what they have achieved and where they are headed.
Illuvium is so close to having a full loop.
Put your voice out there to show your support.
Let them hear you!
Com on!!!

[near pier]

#🎨〕community-content shares a lot and in #🎮〕illuvium-arena

[tawdry harbor]

ty

[spring sierra]

how likely is it that illuvium will launch the full blockchain integrated game in Q1 csondering Q2 is the set date

[lusty citrus]

I would hope for Q2 but if it happens sooner then that’s awesome

[young bone]

Do you mean PvP builds?
Have you checked #🎮〕illuvium-arena there are a few people sharing builds.

[tender kraken]

The game is going to be great. The ILV token will do well. (Although not nearly as well as if they had launched earlier).

All the people currently giving up hope or spamming doom posts will be exactly the same people who in 5 months time will be saying that they never lost faith, were long term stakers, and were always just talking for the good of the project. 😏

This is what is going to happen.

You are welcome. 🙂

puts crystal ball away

[young bone]

I'd prefer Q2 to have more testing time. Personally I never attach myself to the dates as hard lines. More like movable goal posts. I just want them to release when the team feels it's ready.

[young bone]

Haha lol yes, like those that pushed hard for Arena PvP and now they always thought OW was the most important thing.
I appreciate your crystal gazing.
❤️

Oh this is exciting. Lots of good info in token right now.
#💰〕token message

[pallid zealot]

Q2 of 2024 or 2025?

[boreal blade]

Gm

It’s weird how I can’t get the discord point for the farming

[novel oak]

defiantly not Q1 since the team wants to get Illuvials in the OW at Open Beta

Which I dont mind waiting for.

I think they need to be in there for Illuvium to gain traction with a broader audience

[young bone]

2024

[young bone]

What do you mean? Farming?

[pallid zealot]

What do you think are the chances? That’s so close. Could you imagine?

[young bone]

I think the chances are high.
Yes I can definitely imagine. ❤️

[pallid zealot]

Do you have an updated timeline?

[red geyser]

From December

[pallid zealot]

So minting will take place proceeding the open beta launch?

[young bone]

What are you referring to when you say 'minting'

[red geyser]

Open beta launch will be the first chance to capture illuvials that will be minted.

[desert depot]

Is everything ok with the server? I'm stuck

[near pier]

Please create a bug report #❓❓〕support

[hoary bramble]

My game is stuck in reconnect/surrender screen. Can anybody help me? I cant play

[hoary bramble]

We both got this error

[near pier]

Yeah if you can create a support ticket so we can help you there #❓❓〕support

[pallid zealot]

Catching/minting illuvials

[pallid zealot]

I honestly cant believe it’s almost here

[peak trench]

gm

[small coral]

Dayum didn't know that, that's awesome

[novel oak]

Kieran said it in the Illuvium Insider

[sonic dagger]

confirmed not Q1?

[small coral]

Yeah, it's on the updated roadmap

[sonic dagger]

other than roadmap, did they say that explicitly in recent amas or insider

that they will wait for illuvials roaming

[split lintel]

I think Kieran said something during insider

[sonic dagger]

can u confirm? its like 1.5 hours i need to re listen

[sonic dagger]

thx g

[livid marten]

From my understanding roaming is planned open beta while combat changes will come later if I more or less understood Nick in token chat.

[rigid reef]

@near pier was dropping some hints today suggesting it more like catching as opposed to hunting

[near pier]

all I said is hunting implies you don’t just catch

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/elmer-fudd-very-quiet-vewy-quiet-hunting-wabbits-gif-21896551

[lusty citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/quiet-elmer-fudd-gif-22364720

Shhhhh it’s atlas season

[rigid reef]

and you've only experienced catching, yes?

[neon crown]

https://tenor.com/view/gwent-gwent-card-skellige-raging-bear-gif-13783745

[near pier]

I’ve experienced both

[rigid reef]

ok then, hunting confimed if there are multiple possible outcomes

[red geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hulk-throw-bear-battle-gif-14543297

[neon crown]

https://tenor.com/view/thisistheonedude123-bears-gif-18779976

[crimson egret]

where can i see the arena leaderboards?

[near pier]

The play website

https://play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard

[molten agate]

Hi everyone, I'm live on my stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne6Cs4WdN4g

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlOhSt_qW0

[normal python]

Post in #🎨〕community-content

[green mirage]

your question should be is Q2 enough lol, this is not gonna be an easy quick feature to add

[normal python]

Is it as shown in the trailer with Titanor? Illuvial attempts to escape through a wake and the ranger has to tag it with a dart in order to follow it and battle.

[restive notch]

Does the illuvium mavia alliance have a discord channel or just chatting here

[young bone]

What makes you think they are adding it quickly? As though they haven't already been working on it.

[green mirage]

Tbh, I don't care if it makes to the ob or not. I know they are testing this, but I think it's probably still in an earlier stage. It is a more complicated feature. I'm sure it will get there at some point

[young bone]

I don't mind if it does or doesn't either. I just find it interesting a lot of people think it was something that has only recently been thought of or worked on.

[green mirage]

It was discussed a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure they said they weren't gonna make it until later. But I guess they recently realized it's pretty crucial cos the overworld is pretty boring and also the success of pal world

[young bone]

Or just maybe they have always been working on it.

[obtuse patrol]

Idk. They really didn't seem like they were going to (if they ever did it would be one of the things they did way after launch)

[green mirage]

I highly doubt it, they would have openly confirmed it a long time ago. Cos this is a big deal

[young bone]

Not nessesarily.

[obtuse patrol]

The OG community made many suggestions, that was the top one. The overworld is boring and empty with nothing in it. That's been the overall sentiment forever really.

If they were going to put it in, if they were even working on it, they definitely would have been bragging about it

[young bone]

Well we will find out soon.

[obtuse patrol]

Definitely. No chance they wouldn't have capitalized on that opportunity imo

[young bone]

There is actually a lot that has been kept a secret.
Why it's coming is pure speculation.
It is coming is all that matters.

[green mirage]

Or not, I can't care less. That's not on my top list rn

[obtuse patrol]

What is top on your list?

[green mirage]

Have a live ob

[obtuse patrol]

Literally am never here, just randomly popped in to read the chat and saw something interesting

[obtuse patrol]

Ob?

[green mirage]

Open beta

[obtuse patrol]

Ah, mate that's 25 months behind right now, I assume it's otw. Sometime soon, couple weeks maybe

[green mirage]

Try month

[obtuse patrol]

*Kieran literally said a couple weeks 25 months ago so...

[glossy elm]

Is this in relation to Illuvials in the Overworld sorry?

[obtuse patrol]

I think that's what they were talking about. Illuvials in the overworld. (Like palworld)

[glossy elm]

Illuvials in the Overworld (Illuvial Hunting) has been in development some months prior to Palworld release.

Open Beta will include Illuvial Hunting, and Post Open Beta we will work on that action-combat style.

[sonic dagger]

lol

we'll see

[obtuse patrol]

Interesting. Well, I'm curious to see how that'll turn out. Also curious to see if it gets delayed now, once again, due to that not being completely finished.

You guys have set a pretty big precedent of delays, I honestly think whenever this game comes out everybody from years ago will be genuinely surprised.

Of course with that comes added expectations...

[green mirage]

That's for the best

[sonic dagger]

imagine fading jag

[green mirage]

Less focus on the complicated AI which is the most time consuming part. Just get the collision and movement

[sonic dagger]

prob not enough time to do the AI

i dont expect deer hunting simulation

[obtuse patrol]

I mean, basic AI can be done in a month easy. By someone watching tutorials. Professionals should theoretically be able to toss up something that makes it engaging in double that time.

Also, this game never would have been shit without overworld illuvials. So glad they "decided" to wait until they had them in the overworld to launch beta

[sonic dagger]

time works differently here ser

[obtuse patrol]

Oh ik lol. I just pop in every 6 months or so to see what's going on.

Maybe slightly more frequently.

[lusty citrus]

I’d be happy with duck hunt to start

At least I know where the crit spot is on attipo 😉

[glossy elm]

To be fair, we're building the foundations of the Illuvium ecosystem, 35+ projects since development begun.

We're reaching a point where most projects are complete in their v1 state (i.e. the core functionality we require for the Interoperable Blockchain Game).

As projects are wrapped up we can reallocate resource and deliver the next that much quicker.

[lusty citrus]

That’s an enormous workload and definitely commendable for being a first time studio. Many established web 2 studios take 4 to 5 years to put out games.

[sonic dagger]

duck hunt confirmed.

[fervent idol]

wen open beta

[lusty citrus]

No official date but Q2 seems to be the goal.

[fervent idol]

good

[obtuse patrol]

You realize that's extremely poor resource management though right? The only thing that mattered/matters is the base game.

Also, 35+? There's the shitty disc opening (not sure that counts as a game, it's a loot box simulator). There's zero... which is a mobile game. There's the arena (which is part of the game for overworld).

Am I missing something? Where's the other 31

[obtuse patrol]

It's not commendable. It's stupid. There's a reason web2 game companies do it the way they do (and big ones STILL fuck up)

[lusty citrus]

Blockchain requires many different approaches not just making a game. They have website, imx integration. They are working in unreal engine with ow and arena.

Also unity for IlV-0

There is no blueprint for how to make a web 3 game

[molten agate]

When we all stop blaming everything we have to work with and start working with it instead of fighting against it. It's like walking around in summer saying, 'don't you hate this heat' or in winter 'damn i hate the cold'... Lets just face it Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy and Let it Go... Let it Go 😉

[sonic dagger]

i hate summer flies

[sonic dagger]

and pollen

[lean sigil]

I was watching a streamer play OW... it looked really boring ngl

and I normally love open world games

[lament trail]

Shitty weather guys

Feeling like some hot chocolate

[sonic dagger]

looks fine to me

[lament trail]

No Aussie sun

[sonic dagger]

thats like a nice sunny day in melb

[lament trail]

Hahahahaha

No one cares about Melbourne

Melbourne is wish.com Sydney

[sonic dagger]

i can finally wear my shorts

WTF

TAKE IT BACK

[lament trail]

Ask a random guy anywhere on the planet if they heard of Melbourne

Everyone heard of Sydney

Finding nemo was based in Sydney so that should tell you everything you need to know

P Sherman 42 wallaby way Sydney!

[worthy juniper]

i heard of melbourne! it has a high cost of living

[lament trail]

Nah we beat Melbourne in that metric as well

[timber torrent]

probably got flushed down the toilet ....lol

[timber torrent]

I went to america they said where are you from i said Perth ...they siad "AH" is that near London ...roflamo

Ima wating for crystal to comment

@agile tapir Im disturbed ....im just wondering why Im always asked to sit in the "bebot" seat in the jipnee

[noble sand]

What about Radelaide!

[timber torrent]

no dialect 😉

[molten agate]

A little assistance in voice channel. I'm about to play OW and would like some input into the how to and why please!

back in 5

[young bone]

I'm about to stream so happy to assist

[molten agate]

Awesome, good to meet you T

twitch.tv/lit_now_investments

[wise marlin]

hey guys

hi hi hi

I want to know the "mint price" of 1 Land NFT in Illuvium, does anyone remember it?

[sonic dagger]

bottom was 0.3 ish

[inland turret]

Gm

[hazy quarry]

About 0.35 eth

[young bone]

Thanks for jumping in Fubar ❤️

[quick root]

Do u like the game? Do u play it regularly?

[novel oak]

Yes and yes

[agile tapir]

hahahaha! Shouldnt you be flattered? 😄

[fierce gorge]

Gm guys

Which the difference between "Hyper" and "Omega" in illuvium?

[sweet wing]

yellow vertical bar gives you hyper based on affinity benefits vs the opponent. Omega bar is the bottom horizontal bar, Illuvial uses the omega power once it's full

[fierce gorge]

Thank you!!

[worthy juniper]

little addition to mozeen. once the hyper bar is full the illuvial gets bonuses. you can check it out in the graph on the left side here:

also the blue bar, often refered as mana in other games, is called energy. once it is full the illuvial will cast the omega (ability) which gets empowered usually by omega power (ability power)

[burnt flower]

2nd week snapshot in 8 hours?

[red geyser]

No. #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

The first snapshot was basically 24 hours before the rest will be

[lusty citrus]

It’s gonna be cool to see the new hyper aura/animation when illuvials go hyper and it will definitely make it more noticeable

[azure dune]

Hey does anyone know if Xbox controllers are compatible with arena?

[hollow mist]

greetings how's everybody doing

Did the Land holder group get deleted ? Why so ?

Oh it did not

[near pier]

I use one yes but I had to get some software to help me program it to my liking

[near pier]

No it didn’t

[azure dune]

Thanks Rich

[burnt flower]

oh, thanks

[still urchin]

anybody got a quick recap for me of where this project is with Arena, Overworld and beyond? Investor here and just wanted to see where things are at.

[terse plaza]

Any support team here I need help

[fathom quarry]

Hey family. Haven’t been around in a while. What’s new?!?

[obtuse patrol]

You added 2. So we're now at 27 things left to explain. Unless he counted every single season of beyond individually, and every single beta phase individually, I don't see how you get to 35+ projects. Throw in staking and governance and you're at like...25 left to explain.

Unless they literally have 30 things out there that's never been leaked or talked about...

Mind you, illuvium literally has not "released" anything. It's all private this and private that. So, if there's really an unseen amount of 30 projects that'd be something shocking that nobody would ever expect, considering the base game has been taking SOOOOO long.

I feel that maybe, just maybe, he used the term "projects" in a different way than I'd expect him to.

[spice prawn]

What happens to ILV and SILV2 that is staked when that program sunsets and expires?

[oblique slate]

The stake doesn't end; what ends are the rewards. The revdis continues as usual, and ILV and SLP will still be used to receive revdis. Nothing changes, just as SILV2 continues to function for direct purchases with the DAO.

[thick jasper]

#❓❓〕support

[lusty citrus]

Im no game developer. I know multiple teams and projects are needed for one game and they are dealing with multiple games. You can DYOR. Throwing shade at developers does not help the project progress. Constructive criticism delivered in an pleasant manner can make a difference. I’ve learned that if I don’t like a game to the point where I criticize it constantly then it’s time to move on to another game. Games are to have fun and entertainment.

[sonic dagger]

gm

gn

lol

sup

wow

betty

i see

[simple patrol]

Betty is ima

[sonic dagger]

what is love?

baby dont hurt me

no more

[simple patrol]

Don’t hurt me no more

[sonic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-love-gif-22200319

good times

good chat

good night

[simple patrol]

I miss Betty

[lusty mantle]

me too

[sonic dagger]

i miss fraggy

she was fun

[simple patrol]

Me too

She was my bestie

[sonic dagger]

mod fraggy wasnt fun tho

[lusty mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/khaled-best-we-the-best-good-dj-khaled-gif-5348416

[simple patrol]

Mod Fraggy was the all seeing eye

She’s knew how to answer all questions

[sonic dagger]

mod fraggy prolly hold the most mute in the history ever

[lusty mantle]

Easy, please contact #❓❓〕support

[simple patrol]

My salty little friend

[lusty mantle]

certainly took blame for a lot of mutes

[sonic dagger]

i heard mod fraggy was muted

[lusty mantle]

Go to bed Jaganite, you promised

[sonic dagger]

im brushing my teeth

[simple patrol]

Good night Jag & Frag
Sleep well

[lusty mantle]

gn mom

[near pier]

brush them well

[simple patrol]

Gm Rich

[sonic dagger]

i just found out that u need to floss really deep into the gum

[near pier]

gm

[near pier]

I just got some of those birds that clean your teeth for you

[sonic dagger]

i love birds

tasty

oh rich

hows the namaste guy

[lusty citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/flossing-my-teefers-homer-simpson-going-to-bed-getting-ready-gif-12142538

Jag IRL

[worthy juniper]

fo real? who said that

[young bone]

Hey Crypto child, I'd suggest watching some interviews from Paz and Scoriox for recent updates.
Then listen to some amas and townhalls.
Check illuviums YouTube sites and check #🎨〕community-content

[drowsy snow]

Hello world

[hearty jacinth]

good evening

[young bone]

Morning 🌞

[lusty citrus]

Good afternoon 😃

[manic osprey]

Or, you are just misinformed. Beyond is not in beta.

[hoary bramble]

My main account is bugged. When i open the game, it automatically starts the game in this account. How can i use another account?

[gusty spire]

is there an updated roadmap somewhere?

[glossy elm]

@near pier I saw someone discuss deleting a saved folder to remove the auto-login, do you know the specifics of that work around?

[ripe geode]

Hey
To remove autologin, type this in your file explorer:
%appdata%/../Local/Illuvium/
And delete the save folder, this will reset your game settings to default allowing you to input new login credentials

Also please make a bug report from in-game reporter 🙏

[upbeat depot]

when this pvp weekend ends?

[teal marten]

gm

[young bone]

Gm

[old folio]

Wen January player #s

[inner topaz]

Gm

[charred lily]

hi Kieran. let's talk about your tweet about Hunting illuvials 😋

[inner topaz]

It's very exciting

Just seeing them is awesome

[astral brook]

where is the nexus channel?

[thin elbow]

#1201578413530558534
This one?

[shrewd lagoon]

Good day mate
I'm Jay a Blockchain developer from webberland. Can we have a moment of your time.
I have a web3 development service to discuss.

[astral brook]

Thanks...I don't see it on your list of channels...

[pearl crest]

How's the future trillionaires doing

[rigid reef]

https://tenor.com/view/top-g-is-back-gif-8609828592402970104

[uncut flicker]

guys where i can check rank?

[young bone]

Its exciting to hear its exciting !!

[lusty citrus]

Link for leaderboard

[sage falcon]

Unfortunately I'm going to have to report this NFA to the SEC

[sonic dagger]

LOL

ur getting that push notif about me daily?

[sonic dagger]

wen

[lusty citrus]

Someone stockin the Jagster 👀

https://tenor.com/view/hedgehog-sonic-sanik-running-gif-4601984215150332246

[sonic dagger]

always

[slow crag]

Hey guys I just received a email for free minting
IG it's sus
Is there any announcement for this?

[sage falcon]

Yeah. Keeping tabs on ma community boi

[red geyser]

Turn it off ma’am

Freaking autocorrect

[red geyser]

Any email with a link to some call to action (mint, claim,…) is going to be a scam

[near pier]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-maam-donald-winthrop-the-oval-i-beg-your-pardon-pardon-me-gif-20603195

oh mai

[icy parrot]

guys sorry im new, what do i need and how much do i need to spend to play?

[near pier]

Dont need to spend anything to play right now