#🎮〕illuvium-overworld
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Yeah but there may also be an augment thingy
%40 😄
What were thr two encounter mods? Going from 175 to 619 sounds like an x4 rathee than +40% buff
Maybe they had an attack buff from fighters as well
slappin not a fighter
roq
Sometimes the classes increase power of all units, sometimes just the class specific ones. Who keeps track ^^
Not me at least
🤦♂️
I tried keeping track 2 years ago but things change all the time so i took a break and wait for things to be ironed out.
we keep waiting somehow :/
I'm getting the same problem. I can't bridge any ETH into ImmutableX at all from any EVM chains, not even from Ethereum itself.
Just temporary... showing same when i try.
Now
add me
guys
do you have errors now
in OW?
pressing "start" to start the battle, force closes the game
nvm, its just one encounter that has bug. tried to battle other encounters and its fine now
Not too bad!
could we get stats visuals back? Looking at sheets to evaluate the strength of an Illuvial feels terrible... I know OW isn't a priority, but this one thing should be
I'm curious, with auto drone runs, what will be needed, just crypton? What about shards and such? what happens with those?
It will be fixed in an upcoming update at the start of next month! I know it's frustrating, but the team are aware and will try nad have it fixed for the upcoming patch
There is a fuel rework comign soon. We don't have the final details on what it entails, but it will use that new system. Looks like all the fuels are combined into an easier to use 1 fuel does all kinda thing. You can see the icon in the recent podcast teasers
I'll find the pic for you hold up
Oh nice, I like that
Any word on what happens with the current fuel? Will it all be merged? (Should we be stalking up right now? lol)
Afraid I am not sure; I would assume that's the case. But I don't have the answer!
Sounds like we should be getting that info soon though - hints of March time
🦂
anyone know whats gonna happen to the shards?
No official info yet, maybe something will be including in the big update due for March, but I'd assume they are still used in Overworld, since normal runs are way more precise for capturing what you want/good stats etc.
But, again, we'll have to see. A lot could change that we're not expecting 👀
does anyone have an overall stater blossom guard spare]
We need that alpha
What did you need? Just a regular blossom guard?
He was beautiful floating along in Brightland. 🦑 ❤️
I clearly used all the luck for those seascorpions hehe
Just joking, but yeah that's so sad when you don't hit even one perfect trait
Let's see if they fix the Illuvial stats, I haven't played for a long time because of that... it's been 2 weeks or more...
I'm going to put more illuvials on sale at a very cheap price, which is why I'm not going to play anymore!
If you want any, send a private message!
not fixed yet. they said theyll fix it next game update next month. so maybe march 31
Next month 😅
Ssomething about the stats?
The latest we heard is the next big update will come early next month
still sucks, but pretty happy about my setup. Only checks for encounter mods missing.
so awesome dude!
🤦♂️
When I think about the things the game puts us through... I don't know, INCREDIBLE.
oh. that would be great.
the march 31 i said is just my own understanding of illuvium teams' "early next month" meaning. no offense boss
Thank you for your efforts dude GJ!
yeah, don't think about that or how bored I must have been 😄
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The upcoming fuel update, will my total of over 450k Crypton / Hyperion and Solon be merged?
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Will the issue with Overworld stats be resolved, or if not, what is the reason for that?
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What mechanics will change regarding shards, gems, ingots and essences? For example, will the weapon or Illuvial fuse system be altered?
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I understand that the drone system provides an opportunity for players with limited time, but we are unsure how it will impact the market system.
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Can someone from the team finally give a clear explanation? Jumping into updates without prior details causes confusion why can’t we learn about some of these things in advance?
players sell their setups, which they worked for months on, to bots and leave the game. Does anyone care?
atleast you did very awesome in short amount of time.
while illuvium is what. took another month to fix but before, they fixed it within few hrs.. but now, CHOSE to fix the stats "after" client update
1st: in fight
2nd: after capture
3rd: illuvidex
to 1st picture:
- shouldn't the in fight screen show the true damage based on level? Had to remove my level calculation for example for att dmg 217/(1.01^19) = 180
- omega 122 doesn't seem explainable 145 is the real level 20 value for this Illuvial and 120 would be the lvl 1 base value.
three different hp values:
in fight: 2439
after capture: 2408
Illuvidex: 2899/(1,01^19) = 2399,6
Based on the stat picture something above the base for 20% of 2400 hp should be right. Which would again mean that the in fight picture doesn't show the true fighting power and instead showes something close to base values, but not really base values in some cases.
And no, this encounter hadn't any relevant mods
Looks super strange to me, but at least I can work with this chaos to hit the stats more accurately. Still shouldn't this be more clear?
What are the hard to find skins
Pretty sure levels in overworld have been broken alongside the stats. Both should be fixed at the same update 🤞
I'd imagine the rarity just followed Tier + Stages, much like overworld rarity
So T5's are probably the rarer skins to research/create
Sorry, what are you referring too?
just caught this one in brightland ❤️
I'm checking the stats before "start of the fight" and not during it. During battle it seems that level bonuses are applied, so it's even harder to calculate what's going on
So to get them right, you just check the base stats showed on the illuvidex and compare them with the in-game before fight
Would love to have this info too
How adorable is that?!?!
Whats the best way to configure the controler settings for overworld. Right now it seems unplayable
He is. Now the question is do I keep him or risk him for better stats?
A wise lady once told me 'Gamble all the way to stage 3' 😏
Thinking of gambling these 2, please convince me not too 
But just imagine a perfect stat Holo Monarch. That would be incredible!!! Or a shiny Ghazotep!
I mean, no, no, don't do it.
BTW I am impressed with your ability to capture (collect - I guess it isn't a capture, they don't run or hide or anything) Flint Caps. I always tell myself I am going in just for plants and shards and then I end up getting distracted by Illuvials. I have almost no fruit left. 
Which one are you going to do???
It's not just you... I'm the WORST for just capturing illuvials and 'wastin' my energy lol.
I think I'll see which ones I have stronger stat illuvials to go with it.... I will keep you posted 👀
Let me know which one you do. I need to see what I have for Monkiers. Will let you know how that goes too!
Will do! Just saw I hav a DH Revo as well... maybe I go for the gyro 👀
This is my DH that I haven't gambled yet that I really want to. It has to be REALLY worth it. A DH perfect stat Blotto would be amazing though.👀
OOOOF, I really should do a long video of just gambling DH's
Would be intense to watch. Like a real scary film you can't help but watch through your fingers 
I'd be sweating prefusely though
That would be a great video. I would love to watch it! I would be so sad for you if they didn't work though.
That would probably get you views though right?
Just do a few. Maybe not the most important ones. I'm kind of scared I will catch a DH Rhamphy one day because I wouldn't want to try to fuse it but I also wouldn't be able to stop myself. 😂
Same... The thing's i'd do for a DH Ophisto scare me.... 
This is my best DH
Yo
I
Got an email saying i have free illuvials to mint. But when i login through metamask it just does nothing and makes me login again over and over
Am i doing aomething wrong?
its a scam
all emails about airdrops will be scams.
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Terribly fake.
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Hey community
When acquiring shards from runs, how abundant do they feel? Outside of trading?
Rate it from 1 to 10
1 is "Do shards even drop? I just buy them"
10 is "I'm drowning in shards, everytime I need one, 100 magically sit in my bags"
1 for T5
10 for t1-t3
9 for T4
The balance is out!
Tier 1-4 shards are very easy to get.
T5 shards are waaaay to rare, here is why. T5 shards are only good for catching T5 stage 1 Illuvials and that only gives roughly 50% capture chance. So you need 2 to get 1 tier 5 stage 1. I find on average you get 1 shard per run. Sometimes less sometimes more.
It is also pointless to use tier 4 shards on tier 4 stage 2/3 illuvials so you have to use T5 shards for them too. So you can see given the rarity why we are so lacking in them.
I would literally spend more money on tier 5 shards if I could, but they are so rare I can't. So it's actually a income bottleneck.
The result is I only ever catch high stat t5 illuvials cause if yoy use then on anything else you run out.
Of course you can buy more on the market place.... but ad someone with literally tonnes of fuel I can't actually use it because fuel doesn't buy raw shards and I can't spend it because I havnt found them
Do you optimize for them in runs? E.g. shoot more Lazurite/Tectonic Neovite than others?
pretty much how it is, i probably buy more than 80% of the t5 shards i use.
100% I'm at the stage where I only mine green or shard rocks. Have been for a long time
A stage 3 run basically looks like this
Quick scout of the area shooting all green rocks on the way, while looking for rare illuvials.
Catch the best ones, hopefully by this stage you have all the green gems and the large rock.
Then grab the rifts and shoot any white rocks or plants you need before the stage closes
This is accurate
i guess the problem is with the low catchrates.
The system basically wants that one has a chance to fail and don't catch the illuvials he just battled.
On the other side there is a player sitting who desperatly want that illuvial.
So he might try to get it a couple times with the same tier of shard as the Illuvial is but uses the higher shard to secure it in the end very often.
As my friend above already told, i don't really use a t4 shard anymore for T4 s2/3 and rather go directly with the t5 to save time and don't have to fail 3-4 times with a t4 shard to finally throw a t5 shard anyways.
everything is approximately the same as written above: t5=1, t1,t2,t3=10, t4=8.
Of course, I shoot all lazurit on the map.
But I don't buy t5 shard now (I did before). Due to the need for good traits, I don’t take almost 100% of t5 illuvals, they almost always have bad statistics. So t5 shards are accumulated little by little, but an average of 3 shards are spent on one illuvial...
Finding the shards shouldn't be the bottleneck. Your only limiting the amount of fuel people can spend minting them.
This is very helpful, thank you, looking for a few more takes from players at varied levels
Shoot green rocks meta, amazing hahaha
I'm very glad your looking into this, I'll tag some others who play a lot of overworld
@fervent topaz @steel maple can't see srfrdudes tag if anyone knows it
Any particular Stage of runs you're feeling this? Or is it S3 all day every day
Is it worse in one stage than the other etc
Tbh I have been buying t4& t5 illuvials from the market place because it is cheaper and easier than me trying to find t5 shards and dealing with multiple shard fails to capture even low stage illuvials
S3 all day every day 😄
I guess almost all people who can beat s3 encounters stopp running the low stages, since you catch the low tier illuvials in the high stage runs aswell, but get a shot at maybe encountering high tier illuvials.
Well its only really relevant for stage 3 runs, the likelihood of finding or needing to use a t5 shard in a stage 1 run is almost 0
I usually do stage 3 runs or stage 1 runs. If your after tier 5 creatures stage 3 runs are the only option.
I guess you could find the occasional t5 shard in a stage 2 run but it is still rare and you usually just end up finding more t4 shards there
S3. At other stages I only run after illuvials, because after lazurit from s3 there are enough shards
How do Master shards play into it? What's the master shard meta currently?
I don't understand what "master shard meta" is. I don't use master shards because I have nothing to spend them on.
Accordingly, I have... a lot of shard dust 😂
@queen bobcat do you need adorius 250% ? 10% movespeed 40% omega
Master shards I save for T5 stage 3 Illuviuals, or really good T5 stage 2 Illuvials. There isn't much else I would use them on
Even a Dark Holo T4 stage 3 I would probably attempt to capture with a T5 shard and use the master as a backup
but I would be slightly mad if that T5 shard failed and I had to use the master
Yes, that's true. I think the same.
i run only s3 runs.
as everyone said, getting everything other than t5 shards is easy. run usually looks like this: before run, scan for illuvials. mark rare ones on map. run towards big rock deposit to see if it contains t5 shard. shoot green rocks on the way. use remaining energy to capture smth if it is worth it. most t5 illuvials i skip since i would be only wasting those rare t5 shards. never find anything worth using master shard to capture, so i'm just holding onto them for now.
when you buy t5 shards from market and hold, and drop rate for them will be changed....
I actually do, buuut
I can give $80 for you xD
Nothing at the moment.... possibly soon
oh no
It seems I missed a lot of things! So is there any value in playing this game now?
😄
make it 70 today I will give you my adorius
i try 😄
aight I will wait before I change price
you can check on illuvials-dex if you want to see it
I mostly agree with Dr Spoon's ranking above. My rank would be 1 for T5, 10 for T1-T3 and 8 for T4.
T5 are too rare.
I am a green rock shooter but don't hunt them out on the map, just if I see them. I mostly buy T4 and T5 rather than get them in runs. The prices are low in the market for shards so I can spend my energy on Illuvials and plants (since I can't buy those in the market).
Approximately 90% of my runs are S3.
Master Shards I have made and also bought on the marketplace.
I have always known I want to make skins so will need a lot of T5 Illuvials. When I could view stats I would check the price of a comparable stat Illuvial on marketplace to the price of shards and that would determine which shard I used for a capture.
That said, there have been times I have overspent on a shard to capture my own just because I want it. I don't always play rationally.
It seems I missed a lot of things! So is there any value in playing this game now?
Can anyone answer me? plz
already did 🙂
yes
yes means?
there's weekly gauntlet events happening where you can win some ilv if you are good 🙂
obviously you can also still farm illuvials and try to sell them.
offer sent
enjoy 🙂
you too 😄
Sorry if I missed a lot of the talk around this subject already, and am just repeating stuff, I’m at work atm so haven’t got much time to back read…
But I’d say all shards are fine except T5. I have to buy around 80% of the ones I use, and I’d throw a lot more if I didn’t have to buy them tbh. I just try and be cost effective sometimes 
But outside of getting lucky with the larger deposits, I don’t see many of them per run. If any at all.
And I always try and shoot 90% green rocks if I am harvesting for shards
I would rate the balance of finding shards, including T5, as a solid 10/10. Who here finds T5/STG1 - T5/STG2 or T4/STG3 worth catching based on their daily STG3 runs?
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At least based on my own experience, in 1 day / 25 STG3 runs, the number of T5s I found worth catching never exceeded 3 or 4.
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In these 25 STG3 runs, I could find at least 8-9 / T5 shards, so I don’t see any issue with the balancing.
Of course, if players want to take their chances with 1x50 or below-average T5s, maybe the rate could be increased 🙏
That is a valid take....
I guess if they only want us catching the best T5s then the balance is right.
I havnt bought more than 5 shards, and I've only used 2 master shards.
I've played hundreds of hours catching over 950 illuvials. Still havnt got all the t5 s2/3 illuvials, it's a shard bottleneck. I could get around it buying shards, but that should be for the rich/time poor natural progression should be a option
T5 and Master shards should remain in the "very rare" category.
If I were to make a small comment based on the current market prices, it's clear that they are far below where they should be.
If there were a potential increase in drop rates, this could push them even further down in status. Imagine finding 3 T5 shards in every STG3 run throughout the day...
But your argument only applies due to the current rate of T5 appearance in S3 runs?
Partially, yes. Actually, if I were to share something interesting, I sometimes find 1 - T5 shard in S2 runs. For example, after doing 10 consecutive S3 runs, I enter S2 once (kind of like my ritual).
If I find 0 T5 shards in those 10 S3 runs, there’s about a 70% chance I’ll get T5 shards in that first S2 run. Just wanted to share a short anecdote 😅
So, to add to that, I assume most players are currently running STG3, which is why I find it appropriate to base my overall evaluation on that.
The probabilities in STG1 - STG2 runs are perfectly fine for me
0 T5 shards in 10 runs sounds like:
- you were not looking for shards actively
- a very rare statistical outcome
If you’d like to hear another idea, as you already know, the number of T1/T2/T3/T4 shards is quite high and has piled up.
Maybe the multiplier points we get when burning them could be increased... because I’m sure everyone has over 1000 T1/T2/T3 shards. (Talking about obtaining Master Shards.)
This rarely happens to me, but what I wanted to point out is that whenever it does, I end up finding 1 T5 shard when I run STG2, maybe it's just luck
hi guys, started playing again today after 6 months, can you tell me why i can not see my current season points, and milestone missions don't show the point rewards , is the season ended?
I should add that I’m less of the player who ‘catches only good stats’ - I tend to throw shards st illuvials I want to bulk my overall collection. So I probably use a lot more than others who target only strong stat illuvials
Can anyone tell me if we will gain XP in drone runs and in gaugelet matches?
Phorus: captured with T4 Epic shard <6.70%
Synalph: captured with T5 Resplendent shard <33.40%
Have they already fixed the game so that the statistics can be seen?
not yet, when you capture it's like a guess.
Solid Synalph! Congrats! 
I love the Dropbear 
This is a screen-resolution bug atm, change your screen to 'windowed' in the settings, and it'll appear. You can change it back after you've fused
Worked thanks
Bad one 🤣
Checking in - did the stats display ever get fixed? I haven't seen anything in the announcements.
Still the same as it was before; plan is start of March's patch
Seems there is a big set of updates planned for then, from what I've heard in AMA's/podcasts 👀
Sounds exciting!
soo cloosee
Wen OW Stats back?
Looks like I need to start researching for a Phyriox skin just so this little snake can do something useful😂
Oh btw Torial....
The DH Gamble failed
- Standard colour
BUT, we tried 
What happened to the Omega too?!?!
You were robbed.
Yeah pretty tragic 
It took the lack of omega from the DH, and that was it 
That's harsh. Try Monarch now.
Those are incredible!!! Especially the chicken!
....best in the oven?
You get so many DHs this is crazy!!!
I so rarely get them on my maps.
Don't worry, when multiplayer is here, we'll share the maps 
Hopefully we get your map luck not mine.
OOOF giving away the Quinx 👀
Are you fusing it???
Noo, that's what I'm giving away as the prize! The spin-the-wheel landed on it
I'll miss her
Oh no, that was too much!
Who won her?
I hope whoever it is really appreciates her.
Colby! I believe it's Aztec in here, and he was the first to enter and seems to have been in this discord from 2021!
I posted the vid in community content channel, cos X was giving me troubles uploaded a long video
Trying to tell me I talk too much
I am still sad for you that you gave away such a beautiful one but glad it went to a long-time community member. I missed your X post this time for the contest.
I had to laugh over X giving you trouble about talking too much though.😂
You will just have to catch another one.
I'm catching these DH's too fast, I need to at least let you catch my tweet first hahaha 
Yeah, sad to see her go, but all part of the fun and giving to the community!
might stop this method once I get a DH Ophisto though 
DH Ophisto could definitely have a fine print clause, I think everyone would understand that.
I'm curious how Drone Runs will affect the questing game... I think we need a new metadata setting, irrelevant to visual eye only the backend that it was caught via drone run???? Thus i can filter out if it was legitimately hunted
old capture but not bad
not enough info about drone runs to make informed guess's ...could impact economy in big way if implimented incorrectly
Yep automatic drones....no shards no consumables i asume...just take them illuvials Lazi and prices already adjusting all over the market...not fixing Overworld definitely helps. 🤦♂️
How sad...how sad...
Does anyone manage to play Overworld with remote controller ? 0la is asking in french.
Best person to ask is @timber saddle
I'm afraid I've never used a controller for overworld - always just stuck with Keyboard.
I know some where playing around with controllers in overworld some time ago, but since they're not officially supported by the team, I don't know how far they went in terms of working perfectly 
I did just find an old message from Rich saying to use reWASD - apparantly that works great. No idea if it still stands to this day though
he does have an open ticket.
he said support said they working on GamePad support.
Apparently the reWASD need to be a bought version to execute the action he needs to do which he doesn't have.
Most likely nothing changed yet.
ok
guys thx for the help but it's not for me it's for @gusty void
latest info of community members i saw it is just working with reWASD
Pretty nice for a Holo
I wish 
Maybe if I was brave enough to yolo fuse them with really good standard colours, but for now I have not risked it hard enough lol
I have a DH Artace that's pretty strong, but my fave illuvial is just my Holo Ophisto atm
No DH comes close to him
Holo Ophisto is awesome,the DH i would think is really rare
Yeah I donno if there's even 1 out there yet...
But boiii do I want one 😏
Looks like no Ophisto or Octius been caught yet 
No DH?
Who are we kidding,iam playing gauntlet in a few
6 for T5, 8 for T4 10 for T3-2-1
Blazenite will never not look cool 🔥
Even if it is a literal fire feathered chad who missed leg day
yes
Get him 
bad
There's no such thing as a bad Ophisto
ok for BP
good for a skin though
honestly this ophisto isn't too bad 8/10 damage wise and 4/10 defense wise
And you even encountered it in a Stage 2 run which is mindblowing!
WAIT I didn't even realise that, that's insane good luck
?? stage 3 + solon ^^
I use a generic Xbox controller with Joy2Key software.
I replied to you so you could translate to Ola. I do not speak french. Je nai parle francais?
I never paid attention to the grokko skin, it's too stylish
do you do only stage 3 runs?
Wish the movement and health were swapped but still a nice find.🙂
Mrcheeseman de la communauté ta dit cela à propose:
J'utilise une manette Xbox générique avec le logiciel Joy2Key.
How much do resplendent shards cost to craft in hyperion
I do, yeah. Unless I need some low fuse essences I sometimes speed run a couple stage 1’s. But always hunting in S3
1000 Hyperion
1000 Hyperion each to cure
Hello do I need 1 lvl 40 illuvial to fuse them to stage3?
what lvl or exp is enough
De même mais chaque fois que je saute le CHAT s'affiche.
Il aurait dû faire aucun ou un complet support manette.
Je ne peux pas utiliser JoyToKey a cause du bug Y (impossible a REMAP le CHAT)
Information about the issue or 0la with his remote attept,
le chat c'est l'équivalent à appuyer sur Y pour afficher le chat
english:
Similarly, every time I jump, the CHAT appears. It should have had no or full controller support.
I can't use JoyToKey because of the Y bug (unable to REMAP the CHAT).
The chat is equivalent to pressing Y to display the chat.
1 Illuvial lvl 38 and 2 Illuvials lvl 20 is enough to fuse a stage 3 illuvial
I know but whit a GamePad
The chat is Selected and wen you press A for jump the CHAT open
Its impossible whit a gamePad to press Forward+Jump
JoyToKey changé nothing
hopefully someone else can help you here:
Illuvium Staff can do nothing ( or a real GamePad support or NO gamepad support (JoyToKey can bé used)
Or able us to REBIND the CHAT (Y)
Unplayable for now , i wait for a Update (one more year maybie🤣)
I give up
But thanks for the help
And one more think
AZERTY playeur can't REBIND Z (so they can't use ZQSD to move camera)
That why we dont play Arena too (Big joke the dev team)
so this is an issu that need t be fix to players using remote can play... should be a priority fix in order to bring more players... direct impact here.
Feel free to pick the topic up again 🙂
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1321962657028505633
Assuming much? Second account :))) just my friend .
no secondary wallet 🙂
Look up in right corner
I just sent some shards to a pall... transaction says sent to secondary wallet.
It's just the pop up wrong.... it's fine the transaction went ok.
<@&821154860816793604>
Bug Report would be appreciated 🙂
And don't answer his dm's
Ok.
He's a scammer
Where report bug?
I see ... dang they everywhere 😕
You can create a Bug Report in #❓❓〕support
Yea sadly
Done hopefully it helps.
Hi, can I move up from stage 0 to stage 1 with just playing stage 0 or do I need to invest in fuel ?
Rich going to wake up with shit ton of T0 new shards on his account ^^ had to repro it on my account and used him as my target 
You need fuel to play any of the stages except 0
Only stage 0 are free to play
Ok, what lvls on illuvium is good to have before entring stage 1?
Levels aren’t super important when you enter stage 1, more important to have an okay team that synergies well
Thanks, I will look up how to get some fuel then. I think my team is ok for some fight but need a healer for making it better
this is great
Kukkulus DHs look so incredible.
Any of you controller users who are having trouble with the Chatbox in Overworld, go show this thread some support.
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1344386373385453599
Asked Grok to make an Illuvial for set 2, for fun...
Vyrathax
Deep within the lightless depths of the Abyssal Basin, Vyrathax reigns as a silent hunter, a remnant of an ancient cataclysm that fractured Illuvium’s oceans. Legends among the Rangers whisper that it was born from the collision of void energy and the planet’s primordial waters, a living paradox of serenity and dread. Vyrathax is said to feast on the fears of those who dare to explore the abyss, drawing strength from their panic as it ensnares them in its mesmerizing glow. Some believe it guards a sunken relic of immense power, though none have returned to confirm the tale.
It's kinda cute! 
Region - Abyssal Basin
Affinity - Void/Water
Class - Phantom + Predator
The biggest flirt in gaming history! Or is it pure desperation?
Watching DAU numbers plummet, the economy crumble, and the hype vanish is the result of a series of terrible decisions. Illuvium is doing an excellent job... at running away from its social responsibility.
Maybe it’s just easier to shut the doors, turn off the lights, and leave behind the investors who have supported this project since 2021. After all, admitting defeat might actually be a “profit” for the Illuvium team, right? I sincerely hope I’m wrong and that this new image truly represents the future of the game. Because in the present, there is nothing—absolutely nothing—of relevance.
Meanwhile, the market is full of new opportunities: cheaper, more innovative, precise, and transparent. The question is: will Illuvium fight back or simply accept its own irrelevance?
Go and listen to recent AMA's or podcasts. There is plenty they are doing, have done, or plan to do in the future.
I understand despair since markets are down horrendous, but this comes across a little strange to post. You are here more than most, you know full well there is plenty planned for the future of Illuvium - and much of that is coming to fruitition in the near future
i think this picture sums up nicely where the team is at.
I really understand you, you get a lot of benefits, don't you?
You can beleive what you want, but In fact receive close to zero benefits. I'm here because I want to be
You on the other hand, announced your quitting of the game, and have continued to fud it ever since for some reason.
Again, don't get me wrong, I respect your choice and your opinions. I just am confused by why you choose to post stuff liek this when you have more info than most
I can only assume FUD
I mean... yeah. Not sure what you are incinuating but 
If it's that I only say positive stuff cos I'm told too, you're immensely wrong. If I don't like something I air that frustration in a place it has an ability to actually make a change. Or if I had no faith, I'd have left by now.
Each to their own
I hope everyone is doing well.. 🙏 There was a post here that got 12 votes. If there is a suitable time, I hope we see an announcement or a live stream where these questions, or even more, are answered in detail 🤜🤛
Hi Dexter, doing great thanks! Hope you are too.
If you haven't seen already, Paz has started doing Q&A feedback threads, that he gets direct to the team. All of the questions have been getting answers back at the end of the week, so go post this in there and hopefully you'll hear back!
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1344221624156557333
Week 3 just started
Yes, ı'm good too, thanks, Kieran. I missed this, I'll check it out and then send the questions there
Rangers, It's time, the situation is dire... Hit the Overworld after checking in https://t.co/W4JixiVSiY
for this special ops event. Shellshock: Contaminated Crisis!! Complete the mission to save the turtles!
MISSION IS A GO!
@timber saddle I'll pick you up on the way out, my brother
wanted to know the answer for the fuel. i hope it will be treated as total of 3 fuels since its being purchased the same
do you think I'm doing FUD?
No idea what picking me up on the way out means, but I’m glad you changed your mind on stopping playing.
As for the FUD, I said I can only assume fud. Not sure what you think it looks like when you have 3000 hours in a game, announce you will no longer play, and then the following week post only negative comments.
Look at the message above that you posted with the screenshot; and then continued to insinuate I have some influence on my opinions here.
All is completely irrelevant at the end of the day, as I said you are fully entitled to all opinions and frustrations, but I am just pointing out what it may seem like
We are here to make the game better, together. You don’t have to make me some form of competition if that’s what you mean by picking me up on your way out…
We are here to make the game better; that’s why we all remain - because we want to see Illuvium succeed
So we aren’t actually supposed to run around and hit every turtle with a hammer until it breaks?
i think that was mario brothers, not warwick brothers. but give me the unreal source and a few hours...:D
bah, what i do with that pic, i made a mario brothers photochop with illuvials and warwick heads on mario and luigi some years ago
found it.. 7/23/22 but its tied to a onedrive not online.. bogus, good fun memeory hehe
Breach is meant to be a Sandbox to try out concepts for the MMO not supposed to be a stand alone game.
But it looks like a lot of fun.
Would be awesome to play it with other people

nice fuse
swing a sword by press 1 button lot of fun? do you play any other mmo?
just fused
Its a proof of concept not final by any means,weapons and combos will differ based on weapon choice and yes playing with friends is fun no matter what genre
Its pre Alpha
Sheeesh! What a banger! 🔥
Strong started Umbre is so deadly
Sad i didn't have full spead to even try...but came out amazing.
just in case you haven't claimed the free game in epic games.. World War Z aftermath
Status are already fixed ingame?
not yet bro
they said early of march. so maybe march 31 haha
it's just a joke my brother!
i still love this game and that's why i fight so much for everything haha
including! look what I've done for the project on my platform
Great to see + hear. Onwards and upwards together 
while your waiting for the patch, save the Turtles
why Illuvials are fungible
Steve would disagree 
Hey i just encountered a bug in OW. I lost the battle but was still able to capture the illuvial
yup, we have some issue with how game client calculates battles, server calculated it as a win (server rules)(this can happen both ways) (team is looking into it)
so you are saying that i can acctually win a battle, but still "loose"
yes
I just checked your profile. Impressive man, congrats on the Ophisto!
I was planning to sleep after fuse
now I cant sleep
...
fuse, no?
Ok stupid question. How do you equip a skin onto your ranger
Mouse over the armour, and press x I think then u can select from the available
I show the process towards the end of this video
A beginning to end guide on creating skins in Illuvium
From finding Bio data to minting blue prints to crafting and equipping your new skin!
#nftgamer #cryptogaming #illuvium #illuviumarena #illuviumoverworld #illuviumzero
pew pew pew
Thank you. 🙏🏻
fyi. filter on the right to just show blueprints..
Cheeky gamble fuses 😏
🤔
how many DH did you use?
liking the look of some of these dark holo illuvial but I cant see them even If I use solon fuel
my best fuse so far
sorry im dumb. can someone explain whats gonna happen, say i have 100 crypton. 100 hyperion and 100 solon.. then after the update. how much im gonna have? only one fuel with 300 pcs?
Is overworld off?
yes
I really hope illuvial Stats will be fix in the coming patch!!!
there will be a conversion rate
ohhh
nussa
So it overworld of for a few hours, days, weeks or months?
Was gonna play tonight now i see it's off
I hope it's 1o1 ... would make sense.
If not what? You gonna take half or more value just because? People bought that with money you know....
The patch wasn't deployed yet
wtf
so how are we supposed to test the patch?
is this how we do things now?
emergency proposals
townhall scheduled with just a mere hours before it happens
can't even test the game update
are we 4 real here?
i think a secondary townhall after 2 weeks of play time would be pretty good. At least one to give a breakdown of changes, expectations for the community. And then 2 weeks later people have accomodated to the changes, and they have actual questions.
First thing i said in the question thread was that i would need weeks to read the shared blogposts. Heck, i haven't even started yet 😄
dayaaammm
Came back to spend more money? Good stuff.
monster hunter showing how it's done.
Stats will be visible before capture 👍
👍
So i guess we getting our fuels based on how many runs we could have done...i a fine with that. Let's strive for a good update. Lots off changes.
i really hope this is the first and last
there are 3 fuels that have different prices.
the new price will be fixed.
and there will be changes to ingame cost too.
so i dnt see how it will be 1 to 1 conversion rate
first and last what?
emergency proposal
ah
no reason for it to be an emergency proposal
one could argue it's abuse of power to circumvent the community and vote in an unpopular proposal
i understand
On the runs it seems like...probably going to get same runs equivalent fule as we have...idk just guessing after i read.
yea the goal is to preserve the purchasing power
but i dnt have info on the formula or numbers
A lot of unpopular ideas are being implemented....i hope it's going to be for the best.
not everyone agreeing and unpopular is not the same thing, ser 🙂
Well for ex Automated drone has been voted against...why bring back?
during the process i can vouch that @sonic cloak always had landholders and ow in mind. And hes always try to solve the issues we have with the better outcome for the ecosystem
we had 2 roundtable meetings with council too
my number 16k$
different proposal... if i remember right those automated drone runs wuldn't have included illuvials.
Lvls on illuvial in question, shard capture not needed...i don't believe in 1milion years anybody is like yes just nerf all my shards go for it.
Walk around i see... anyway could go in a fun direction..i guess we will find out.
does Dualephs special attack scale with omega power?
is that a yes? @ashen furnace
yes
One could say that about any emergency proposal then. Are you saying there are no instances where it is important not to make a change without notifing the community first?
This case it would have provided a very easy opportunity for people just to scoop up as much fuel as possible right before the update. And inflate the fuel supply even more.
They are for worst case scenarios where the team has to act fast for the good of the dao, for example eco exploits.
Emergency proposals are not meant for what it is used for the first time now.
or is everything going live on monday? and there is no time to vote on or discuss the changes?
Was the full system not an issue to you?
i didn't say that
that's not the point
ok so how would you resolve it with out people front running. We could have shut everything down and then had a period of time to discuss the best approach moving forward.
possible way for sure.
Why would it be bad if people front run?
Why would people front run in the first place?
and still... why not just make the IIP now ... but an IIP not an EP?
Well I think you can imagine the amount of bonus fuel that has already generated when people were just accumulating back in fall. That is a lot of fuel to chew through. What would that do to the value of all the asset classes? we already have $5Ts
An IIP would be public. As soon as it was posted, people would start selling to themselves at the bottom rail as they already were maximizing the fuel output and increasing our "Fuel dept"
"Due to the significant risk of market manipulation, we had to enact this as an emergency proposal" @gaunt storm really?
what a joke
Feel free to answer the questions above with a better solution then
were you afraid prices would go up by ppl naturally buying fuel? Or what's this "manipulation" you talking about?
nobody knows, right? Fuel prices would be vastly different when just a couple people front run. We went down from 60x to like 19x with just 1 person buying fuel yesterday.
And isn't all that "bonus fuel" more or less just going to be burned now? meaning there wouldn't be a reason to frunt run at all?
How much Fuel is there currently in all accounts sitting which needs to be swaped to new fuel?
60x to 19x wow 
Whoever bought this fuel should come forward!
Is there a way to see how much fuel i had before it disappeared?
wasn't much... as like 1.5m
floor was always thin
will bonus multipliers be removed in the new system?
Ya you could sell your fuel on land at bottom rail to your self and get 19x for super cheap. I know many people who were doing it. Slamming that right before wouldn't help the value of the assets. It would just flood the market
There actually never were multipliers, just cheap fuel expressed as Bonus.
But yea, cheap fuel will be gone with a fix price
😏
whut?
bottom rail?
what are u talking about
such nonsense 🤣
there was alway a mininmum sale price you could put right?
That number likely wouldn't have been increased significantly. As you say, those who were aware did it already anyways
ah ok that's what u call the bottom rail
prices would rise my friend
not fall down
with this news
it would have actually helped heal the market
transparency always wins
release it now... please and ty
There were plenty of high tier plots that had fuel storage and would only sell as they needed it. There were some calculations done that if everyone dumped all the fuel sitting on the plots and potentially generating more fuel as it took the time to get through the iip process, we would have generated roughly millions of $ in fuel dept for 10s of thousands of dollars in revenue.
Dr.Spoon, I haven't been able to read much about illuvial levels, how to gain exp or ideas in auto drone runs. +++ can illuvial still be moved to level 60 for players who will do overworld runs manually?
can we learn these in town hall or can you answer them?
Please elaborate how that would impact revenue and ingame economy?
Maybe give some real numbers you used to calculate?
I guess we get some good Info in townhall soon
Fusion Costs adjusted for all Illuvials (e.g., Tier 5 Stage 3 cost: 32,000 Solon ➔ 6,000 Fuel)
thats $60
1350 crypton stg3 run cost -- 899 fuel $11
so t5stg3 / 6.000 fuel : $60+ ?
Is the testnet live following the 2 updates from this morning? I seem to get a server/client mismatch error or something like that
Am I really the one that thinks that paying 60$ to do a fusion is completely absurd?
nope, I always thought the crazy prices were absurd
Is pretty crazy tbh, but I am gonna hold my feedback until after TH and numbers are given for sure for conversions and such
But I pray it’s not actually $60 😭
I mean seems pretty clear. They pegged fuel to $0.01 so...
Sorry if I’m uninformed though, not had much chance to read over stuff today
No Filow, you are not alone 😄
Ahhh it has been given? My bad Filow
If we can get more T5 - STG2 in races with increasing odds, I can understand the $60 fuse cost here. What I mean is, I consider the possibility that we can create T5/STG3 with a much higher chance of 270%+ stats
I hope ;p
but in any case, this is a lot... I don't know, we'll see.
60$ still seems crazy to me. Got to hope I can just catch it directly. Especially if I'm looking to make a ranger and drone skin pair. Just to fuse would be 360$! 🤯
Anyone else getting this on testnet?
is the update live already on testnet?
I thought that's what this meant
Had a 3Gb then 16Gb update on Epic this morning for the testnet version
I mean, higher stages did need a slight boost. I found one T5S3 with 1000+ hours of gameplay. But I sure hope you didn't go overboard.
I don't really understand how we schedule a townhall for the same day, with an emergency proposal happening and without letting us test the patch.
this sure doesn't feel rushed at all...
We can do another if people wish in some time, we felt people wanted some explanation fast after we presented all that's coming
New client build not available yet as we had a bit of trouble. Will keep you updated as i know more
I don't think there's much to explain, the blog post was clear. What we need is someone with a clear vision on how to actually make this game succeed. In one day, if nothing changes, you guys basically managed to trivialize IZ and overprice once again the OW. And our council approved it.
thank God this was an emergency
so you could bypass community scrutiny.
No more bonding curve ? With ADR, now T5S2-3 will be common and unlimited. Rarity gave charm to the game. If everyone got an holo rhamphyre, it will no longer have any value.
Btw thanks for the details with rich.
Ah the good question I was hoping for
The answer i was hoping for 😅
Do your best, it can't be easy to balance it all.
Perry, will there be a compensation for shards/ess/gems? ı mean, I don't know, wouldn't it be possible to at least swap them for fuel or other solutions that you find fair, instead of throwing them away completely?
So in essence the bonding curve is still in place for OW runs, even though the "plateau" has been hit for most illuvials, but not for autodrone
Effectively, OW will slowly drift towards the autodrone over time in terms of acquisition cost
How do we tackle it? In essence quite simple: we "step function" autodrone with every Battle Pass. So future autodrones maybe the Tier 5 chance will be 1% lower, the next 1.5% lower, depending on success of OW runs
This is still not 100% confirmed but for the battle pass release that's what we're doing
Firstly we wanted to increase amount of T0s over time in a autodrone run but it just didnt feel right, I think this will feel better since its hardly noticeable
Your shards/ess/gems will still retain the same utility, you'll still need them for capturing, crafting, they just lose the ability to be traded
I haven't heard any updates about EXP-related changes in Hall Town. Could you provide some info when you have time? 🙏
- Will players who want to play the overworld normally, like before, still be able to level up their Illuvials to level 60?
- Is the EXP amount an Illuvial gains in an auto drone run the same as in a normal run?
- We know the stats display has returned, but as you know, in the last update, most Illuvials had their HP and Omegas reduced by 25%. Has this been fixed?
Will players who want to play the overworld normally, like before, still be able to level up their Illuvials to level 60?
Yes, additionally I'd like to tweak XP gain a bit though (in a positive sense) for lower stage runs, but want to chat to new game directors on how XP will work in the MMO
Is the EXP amount an Illuvial gains in an auto drone run the same as in a normal run?
Illuvials wont gain XP in AutoDrone, its your drone going on its own and finding what's out there, another benefit of OW runs I should have mentioned during the Town Hall, thank you
We know the stats display has returned, but as you know, in the last update, most Illuvials had their HP and Omegas reduced by 25%. Has this been fixed?
Not sure what you mean, either it's a bug I'm not across or it's the Leviathan change to stats we've made.
thanks for the answers 🙏 ıf I need to show a short example for the last question;
first photo after update
second photo before update -- %35 att dam - %35 hp - %30 OM ⬇️
there was no problem when we entered illuvidex, but when we entered the visuals and overworld for the game, we were playing with low statistics
do we still have to craft shards in this new update
It will be free to cure shard and you can use it only in overworld
so is OW offline now, only available for the drone runs?
Will be offline for a couple weeks while it gets tested with new economy changes in test build. Not live yet to test OW.
Oh so sad, I was lving it, but i'll try arena
How can you turn NFT s into not tradable? Are you guys doing ok? What makes us believe you can't do that to everything...this is to much. Do we know what NFTs stand for? Just because things are on immutable you can't just step on them....players spend time and money...NFTs are NFTs you can't just take them away 🤦♂️
Why even play the game when things like this can happen 😕 why collect NFTs when you take them away because....
No you are not alone.
I have 4 Rhamphites I have on my OW team right now that I have been leveling up, caught/bought Rhamphy's to do it so that I can make a skin. So what, each skin will cost me $240 or I go out and capture more Rhamphyres. They are easier to find. Great except I already spent money on this way of doing it. 
@sonic cloak I love u man but these costs are insane. You put the money pressure back into the OW. Every run i'll be min maxing and thinking how much each gun shot costs me.
Again...
Sad 
Just do a drone run then 😄
And get random crap no ty
hw much is the travel cost now?
Not for sale ever NFT or NOt
I wasnt convimced of drone runs but listening to the AMA I kinda like them now especialy as I cant play overworld cuz of the sprint chat pop up bug 😉
and I will certainly be testing out the theory of Labs on the cost on a full set 1 i caught a lot already so I will see how much it cost to complete my colletion
Speaking of MY collection ......Im glad it looks like they changed the name from Repository 😉
good job mod
What weapon and suit not nft's? How...this is ridiculous 🙄 Nft's can't just disappear because we feel like it. Dude why would people even play i ask you? Because you will make pr? Guess what everyone will know that you just took NFTs that people have captured/bought. Beta status doesn't excuse this behaviour 😤
$13.5?
hi
yea i personally wrote off my nfts because we have low demand.
i believe our goal should be to make necessary changes to make the games more appealing to players, which in turn will increase the value of our assets
imo, our biggest issue is we created NFTs then we created gameplay around them, it should be the other way around
create a good, appealing games and make blockchain tech to compliment them
so im trusting the team to do that
to do whatever necessary to make our games better
some web2 people pay stupid stuff for weapons and skins we will see how this plays out but atleast some of us have unique powerfull items
Dude this is not web2
transforming into
Ok but why steal? Those NFTs are assets right now cost money....that's basically stealing. You can't trade or sell....
Well that is ridiculous 🙄 they are way better web2 out there the idea was that iluvium is web3 now just steal the nft's BOOM it's web2 🤦♂️
I think their idea is to retain web3 element but attract web2 with the mmo lite and make best of both worlds give them a chance
i wouldnt call it stealing, but i get wht ur saying
That is my assets/NFT regardless i should be able to trade. The game could go to 0...that it's still my NFT. I have flipping Around 4000 shards CURED.... how should i feel? I'LL definitely make sure this is know...second time i feel like i am being stolen from. So if this mentally doesn't change new players will not stay long.
Play a Stage 3 run and see what's inside first, you'll notice in terms of illuvial value what you're paying for
$8.99 is the price of Stage 3
$0.20 for a Stage 3 run was unsustainable, sure you get a lot of gameplay for money, but what's the quality of that gameplay?
If you want to play a bunch, play Stage 1 or Stage 2 runs, they are more cost effective and vastly improved as well
Now I regret not having gained more XP. @timber saddle Will you do full stage 1 instead of stage 3 now? Maybe stage 0
And from the point of view of traits?
Hundreds of t5s3 with zero traits are not needed.
traits are stage agnostic
So they weren't changed? This means that 90% of everything in the location is garbage.
IF only the top 10% of illuvials in terms of traits are interesting to you then you can make that conclusion
Of course, the leviathan is made for this. I have enough statistics from all my races, there will be something to compare with in the new version. But still the goal is leviathan.
If a 85 TPI illuvial is garbage then I think we're doing something wrong on the Leviathan front
If you're a max trait collector then sure
Are we thinking off giving back something for the shards? I have spent Hundreds of thousands to cure them...this seems hardly fair....you take all the value out considering player don't pays fee in nex updates...i see that suits will be still NFTs...cool...what about shards?
It’s difficult to say now how traits will affect leviathan. We have a team of 8-9 illuvials on average on the board. Maybe 85 will be enough. That's why I didn't initially create maximum traits. 😅
on average I create everyone with traits of 40-50% (according to old figures)
Will do. I'll provide feedback afterwards.
Don't you feel embarassed for asking these questions when you just aproved an emergency proposal determining it?
Your shards will still have the utility they had before and still be a requirement for capturing, the curing cost has been distributed to travel cost
What do you mean travel cost?.... i cure a t5 shard with 1k fuel.
Do i get a discount on travel?
The game has been refactored to not require curing costs anymore. Previously the cost of capture consisted of curing + travel for the illuvial + travel for the materials for a shard, now its just travel + travel for the materials
The acquisition cost for illuvials has gone up by about 10x, so with fuel prices at where they were last couple of months you'll be fine on a cost basis
Yeah i know fuel has been going down lots needed fix...Still i invested quite a bit 😅 i hope your right . Wait so basically the fee is added to the value of the run in the future. Iff i get it correctly that would be fine then...i am still planning to play hopefully.
@sonic cloak is there no energy in overworld anymore?
does the proposal stated the amount of fuel needed for travel?
it only determined that fuel price is going to be at 25% of top rail
it doesnt say anythin about the amount of fuel needed to travel. so no im not embarassed for asking something idk
because afaik team is going to make adjustment to OW
we didnt vote on drone run prices as well fyi
as per IIP 39, rebalancing will be made by team
i believe we have to simplify the cost to just travel cost to make it comparable to drone run
easier to calculate too
So what i understand is... you play let's say value of run + fee for shards now that value will directly be added to the runs. So you start the run you already pay for shards and all drops as until now we cured them. So automated drones already pay for shards as do OW by just 1 fee that's more expensive hopefully value wise.
Stage 1 will be 24 cents, stage 2 : 1.50$, stage 3 : 8.99$ right?
2 days ago i paid a stage 3 with reveal all in solon, it was +- 20 cents for stage 3 + 30 cents for solon i think so 50 cents +-
VAOW
Luckily I had over 30 t5 shards in cured form, hope these won't be deleted 😅
normally you will get the fuel you used to cured back
If i understand correctly it's fine. You will have them basically like the consumables.
thats not in the emergency proposal that we voted on
let the council discuss this pricing
Yeah, not entirely sure how I’m gonna plan on doing runs for levelling now. I’m just gonna wait and see what happens with the next couple patches and go from there. A bit early to look at levelling strategies or run cost efficiency for anything in my personal opinion.
I just wanna keep collecting for now; didn’t expect levels to remain a power factor if I’m honest, but I’m not opposed to it. I got a couple ophistos at 60 already 
Yes, if the levels remain (and they remain), it is not clear how to further pump up your illuvials. S3 now costs about $10, and I got all the experience there...
We will get experience in gauntlet eventually. The system seems implemented but idk why its near 0 xp, maybe just place holders
I'll definitely play Gauntlett when Assets aka Iluvials are going to be played more....free i dislike 👎 it's a cool game but i sign up for Crypto gaming.
They said, they will improve xp gains on S1-S2
@keen dust you want this? I can give $160
No , thank you
So you approved the fuel price without even considering what price it would correspond?? This is getting worse by the day...
ok
how i connect overworld ?
it's temporary disabled
oh i have a fuel in my profile, am i lost my fuel ?
link testnet? illuvium?
Its on epic gamestore they greyed out version(not all have access)
You mean the illuvidex we used on testnet last year?
yeah
there won't be crypton solon and hyperion just fuel ?
The three fuels will still be a part of Illuvium Zero but they will be converted to a Single Fuel when sold
Is it 8 illuvial per run? Is that 20% less than a normal OW run? So basically i can get 9or10 in OW ? This a bit confusing...can't wait to play tho.
that's cruel, it's there but it's not haha
What happened to those who had old fuel?
@lilac coral
will be converted
not sure of the ratio
all fuel related interactions have been disabled
thank you
Lucky number
yes
team said purchasing power will be maintained
there are tweaks to the runs aswell
Only if you bought in the last week
Or with similar extreme bonus fuel
If you held fuel purchased without the most recent bonus percentages, then you paid Illuvium money for a product and they are no longer delivering that product to you. They are stealing from you, plain and simple.
aah ur right
i think we have to discuss the new pricing
Jag, you can't allow this. They have crossed an ethical line that should never be allowed.
Which one is it
They have gone from disappointing investors, to now trying to justify stealing from customers.
haha the best!
How to see your pending withdrawal? It not appear on tokentrove and even in illuvium site
Because of less run?
Well at the end of the day yes... fuel is being taken with whatever Math they see fit...even tho we paid. We paid for something now we get whatever they want to give us basically. Don't get me started on shards.... some sold better than illuvial now they just take them.
From Perry's comments, my understanding is they are trying to preserve the value of illuvial NFTs by retroactively changing prices for people who bought fuel and didn't spend it.
But he is saying illuvials will be 10x as expensive to acquire now, existing fuel in accounts will be cut back to the new pricing based on the last week's bonus fuel, and also that both people who bought fuel in the last week with a huge bonus and people who bought fuel months ago with much less bonus will all be able to somehow collect the same amount or more illuvials with their reduced fuel.
I don't see how these statements can all be aligned yet. I'm not sure if they're just intentionally making this too confusing for anyone to follow or what. If there was actually a complete example in the IIP that passed, or if it were humanly possible to understand this it would help:
Here's the only coherent example I've seen, from @nova bough, which seems accurate.
From what I can tell, it still plays out as Dr. Spoon described here:
@queen bobcat, do you still think this is the case or do you have better clarification now?
I could be wrong @deep minnow because I am just trying to figure stuff out too but how I read it is that each Illuvial will cost more but there will also be more rare Illuvials found in each run. The cost of Illuvials going up is going to be directly related to running out of energy in a run not by their rarity in the run. Also because of the increased fusion cost. More runs will have to take place to get each Illuvial. Basically they are trying to get the DAO more of the money instead of the Illuvidex.
If a dog keeps biting you, at a certain point why keep trying to pet it?
It's not the same whatsoever. That's cool...here is a offer we give now after we spend money be like we'll the offer was to good for you giveit back?....same was with Leader-board. Why keep changing things after such a short period. Honestly if you have bad actors just punish them not all players. No matter how i think about it the math doesn't ad up. You say the fuel is going to be more expensive if it'snl new....that's all were waiting for?
We're not "retroactively" changing prices of fuel, but I'm honestly not sure what that even means, fuel you bought last week preserves its purchasing power
You could get all Set1 illuvials at 50x bonus fuel for $30 if you knew what you were doing, we've changed acquisition cost through OW runs to be higher to preserve value of Illuvial NFTs
both people who bought fuel in the last week with a huge bonus and people who bought fuel months ago with much less bonus will all be able to somehow collect the same amount or more illuvials with their reduced fuel
I've never said this, I said if you disregard bonus fuel you'll be able to get more illuvials for your money now than previously, given you were talking about the amount of runs you'd be able to do in the FEX UI
hi all. there is information when they will launch OW???
Why didn't they refund the amount spent on purchasing the fuel?
You sell a product and when this product is in the hands of customers you simply change its value based on what calculations to reach that conclusion?
The right thing to do would be to refund the amounts in ETH spent on fuel purchases without counting the bonus.
And the customer can choose whether to buy the new fuel
Sorry why exactly would we disregard the bonus fuel? It's something you all sold.
I wouldnt disregard it either, but Mozeen was referring to the amount of runs we said you could do with that fuel, that was always based on the base amount, the bonus was speculative
Thanks for answering our concerns. It's a big transition...from what i keep hearing we're getting burnt just like the fuel...hope you understand the attitude comes from that frustration sorry.
I totally understand the frustration, there's many many player profiles and I try to be all of them to a certain degree so I can "feel the pain" firsthand and can make decisions while feeling that for a brighter future
I wasn't remotely close to shard hoarders though so especially for those I feel a new kind of empathy for
While I am likely going to get burned a lot by the fuel change, it's the change to make shards and other items non NFTs that will probably impact me the most. I understand the economy needed some kind of change though just not sure if this is the right way. It feels like a step in the wrong direction. But we will just have to see how it goes and test it out. I'll definitely be logging into the test to try it out trying to keep an open mind. But from the info we have so far, it currently feels like I probably wont continue playing. Of course I hope I am wrong though because I've always loved the game.
You are retroactively changing the amount of fuel required for the game.
You did say this, you said I can tell my kids who bought fuel before the massive bonuses were available that they will actually be able to get more illuvials now than they could have before the change. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message
And what are you talking about with disregarding bonus fuel? There's obviously no longer bonus fuel, but you can't disregard bonus fuel from the last 6+ months. That's all just fuel players own now, you don't get to disregard it.
as far as i understand it in an eli5 manner so far:
- While the old fuel gets migrated into the new fuel a multiplier gets applied
- The multiplier is calculated with the bonus factor of the last week and a "difference from pegging to eth before and now pegging to usd"
--> In numbers that would be roughly a 50 (bonus multiplier from last week) and a roughly 1.6 for the difference in the pegging, which results in a multiplier of roughly 88.8 - This means all fuel you had on your OW account + all fuel above 1k storage in IZ gets divided by 88.8.
What does this mean for you:
- If you bought fuel of the FEX with a bonus higher than 50x*1.6 you get some bonus fuel in terms of purchasing power
- If you bought fuel of the FEX with a bonus lower than 50x*1.6 you lose purchasing power
For example if you just bought fuel 1 time during the last week for exactly a bonus of 50x which cost you for simplicity sake 1.6$.
They delete your old fuel and buy you new fuel worth 1$
I'm not sure tho to be completely honest.
So far i haven't read any easy calculation example from officials.
Also i don't think @nova bough graphic is complete.
This is my current understanding too. I'm sure they know how much fuel was purchased and used vs not yet used. That would be a telling statistic. They could also share how much fuel was purchased above/below the 50x multiplier. For this new age of openness and transparency, it seems like they're witholding a lot of info and trying to make it too complicated for anyone to truly understand to avoid pushback
Bonus was never speculative. On the fuel exchange you could see exactly the price of a run and you could see (almost) exactly how much bonus fuel you would get. So you did know what you were buying including the bonus fuel.
simple question with all the future fuel changes did I lose money because I paid in a game that no one plays? or on the contrary I got ahead and I am rewarded because I supported the game by buying fuel when no one wanted it?
That’s reliant on if the games get new players or not. You gotta be the judge of that
Given that (so disregarding the massive difference in bonus fuel now and then)
You're ahead if you bought fuel and used it, behind if you bought fuel and didn't use it
What does that even mean?
I didn't use it, I kept it voluntarily to have an advantage for the future MMO.....
I had no interest in playing overworld I saved fuel for the future
You're not behind if you bought fuel and didn't use it, you're "behind" if you bought fuel above the 50x of the calc (to be more specific, the average fuel price of solon in the week before closing), you're "ahead" if you bought fuel below the 50x of the calc, using your definition of behind and ahead
Then (I believe), you will now be able to obtain significantly less in the future game with that fuel than you would have been able to last week, unless you bought it with one of the highest available bonus fuel multipliers
lol, I obviously don't understand yet
I hope they’ll decide to bring back receiving fuel in your OW account for the runs at least
How is the fuel conversion going to penalize people who received more fuel for the same $$?
I kept a lot too waiting to be ready for season 3 stuff. Bought it closer to the end of season 2 when bonus was a lot lower. I was fine with it though. Spending a good amount to hold around 300,000 total knowing I would be good for hundreds of T3 runs. Unfortunately though with this change, dividing that by 88.8, I won't even have enough for 4 T3 runs. Definitely sucks, but it is the risk I took getting so invested into the game.
That's part of why I'm worried about the future though, with that and other changes.
I didn't understand anything, I don't speak English, so as not to just merge the 3 fuels and leave the total on the players' accounts?
i think you’re missing the part where perry said that we’ve significantly increased what you get in each run to balance out the changes in cost
I don't understand
I'm not
of course perry can correct me if i’m wrong here 🙂
in my opinion that should be the only factor being calculated in
It's hard to quantify though, especially if energy is still the limitation
Here #🎮〕illuvium-overworld message, when you say "bought fuel above the 50x of the calc," does that mean you bought it with a bonus fuel multiplier higher than 50x?
I bought every time when the fuel was at x60
But things like T5S3 would be less rare so what you get for that energy is a lot more, so less need to do multiple runs etc
So what would you tell my kids here? I tried to keep this real simple, and the answer has a caveat of ignoring bonus fuel, which I still don't understand, much less would never be able to explain to my kids. #🎮〕illuvium-zero message
To further explain the question, they own x fuel. Of course they would own much more fuel if they had purchased last week due to better bonus fuel, but they didn't, so last week they still could have done what they expected in the game with the x fuel that they bought for market price at that time. Does this fuel conversion punish them again now for not having purchased last week with the larger fuel bonus?
Team, I trust you not to make me too poor, thank you in advance
The funniest thing about this story is that when the game was officially released, I paid a fortune in fuel. So I don't worry, I'll make up for it now with the bonuses for season 3, but no, I'm still doing the worst things.
actually... during dinner prep i realized that's not complete.
Since the complete bonus fuel gets deleted you get to a buying price of top rail.
New price is said to be arround 25% of the top rail.
So they have to 4x the new fuel in the end.
What!? 😮
sure
maybe perry can provide an easy calculation example 🙂
in your example 1 factor of the multiplier (bonus fuel) is missing, right?
Bonus fuel doesnt matter.
it does obviously
Bonus fuel is just a weird way of showing that the price is actually 50x lower
it's the biggest chunk of the 88.8
exactly, that's why all those with fuel reserves are upset 😄
In my example i obviously take that into account.
Your fuel is valued at 0.0069, but with a 5000% bonus fuel it is actually valued at 0.0069/51. And so your actual value is 0.000137~ ish?
And then you can do the exact same calculations.
#🎮〕illuvium-zero message here's the calc
Ignoring bonus fuel and basing the conversion off of the base fuel would probably hurt less people. (so everyone gets the same amount per $1 spent) It would definitely be better for people who invested into fuel earlier. Basing the conversion off the latest bonus is what hurts me and early buyers the most.
25% of top rail is the target acquisition cost for capturing all illuvials, there's some bonding curve on top as well
And yeah please look at Perry's calcs here. My example was a very dumbed down one. To ensure people understood what happened. It is complete, but you would need to understand that your bonus fuel would reduce your actual value by Bonus fuel%/100+1
(5000% bonus fuel = 50x +1 because you buy 100 fuel worth and get 5100.)
Hello, I play overworld, I registered on the testnet page but I don't know how I can play, I played before so I should be able to play the test, right? Can you tell me how to enter the testnet?
There you go @deep minnow
Was even already pinned 🙂
Overworld is not available yet, just arena.
thanks xd
Hello, I have a question. In the testnet, it doesn't connect everything I had in previous tests. It all appears on the website, but not in the game. Is this no longer available?
Wait until next week when everything for OW is up and running
someone good with adobe need to make an infographic
When will the game come back online
2 post up ser
Can't wait to see how my balance will look....honestly bought some fuel 2 or 3 months ago to like 300$ worth still had crypton over it as i did runs...this will be interesting 🤔
Found proof to ❤️ do we get the ledger back next week? I definitely want to make a math on it.
Ledger?
Like the buy orders.
Ahh the orderbook, not sure if that is coming back
Well it should definitely come back. But no worries i am a streamer actually i should find prof in videos if necessary as well.
imo Having a Orderbook on the front end is not good for onboarding Web2 gamers, needs to be one click, but have a separate page for the Backend orderbook for the people who enjoys that makes sense.
I understand but yes can be hiden a bit with just a button like you say.
today?
Truly the hero we didn't know we needed.
@oblique roost gm bro! please tell me who handles illuvium's partnership and marketing matters
ETA NOW!
You can dm me
Nice attack power on your Fludd, noob 
cant waiting to catch illuvials. hope back soon
Live now on testnet?
done
galvanized steel?
ru doing a roof ?
chicken coop and garden beds
Overworld how can I play
is it removed
...?
I was away for 1 month wha happened
so what happened to overworld don't have the energy to listen for 1 hour
I can't see overworld anymone
They closed it but whyy new updates..........??? or permanebt
I'd suggest having a listen when you have the time, as it's a pretty extensive amount of information for the future of the game + some ecosystem changes...
but a TLDR: It's going through a fuel redesign, and some other changes like illuvial spawn rates, some things like shards, essences, ingots etc becoming personal items, not NFT's and basically a ton of changes.
it should be open in the next 1-2 weeks once testing is finished, and there will of course be a #📣〕announcements once it's up again
A lot of the ecosystem is shifting though, so if you're planning on playing long-term, the AMA/town halls from recent are worth a listen
great thanks for shorting it down 
IT'S LIVE!!! LFG!
worth but can understand, because of poor english😂
I did just a couple drone runs and it seems that the Illuvials you get from there will have a really hard time beating those we got straight from the OW. At least those we got until now 
Keep in mind... Fusion will get basically the exception
Apart from that, seeing those snippets from Taiga Boreal or Halcyon Sea is so exciting!
Yea, Looks cool... Like the animation
I feel there's something missing
Like you would See the drone here and there suck in an illuvial....
It would be sick!
Okay, I'm taking back my words. T5s have a chance to be better than the one we capture in OW. This Octius is better than the one I have on Mainnet 
Remember Perry mentioned the rarity chances for Overworld runs are gonna be a lot higher now though 👀
We've gotta wait and see what these new OW runs are like compared to these drone runs I guess
Right, I forgot about that. I hope we can test it soon!
Rarity yea... But stats likely gona be the Same as adr. Or what we have had so far... Pure rng
Mhmm, hopefully the frequency we see some of the rarer ones compared to Drone runs, will give us a little advantage on finding the better stats
Since Fusion gets so expensive and with adr getting implemented, i guess we will See a Lot more good stat illuvials. Perfect stats on the other Hand will get Harder to obtain
But who knows how much stats Matters anyways... Last Info i read was something Like 80% skill 20% stats.
So i guess you are more than fine with good stats
Btw, I realized just now, that Testnet OW is up too!
EDIT: We can choose our team, but we don't have a gun, so technically it's still down...
no why lucky on testnet 
its working?
for testnet yes
can some 1 remind me, how to connect to testnet so i can try it out?
you can get this? haha
They may need a link to the sanbox testnet site.
the best catch hehe
Kidding
i get the same when i snip
not sure why
HDR setting on windows/monitor? probably
I have the G9 Neo and spent way too much time setting it up for gaming,iam afraid to touch anything now
oh yeah guys its not showing correct amount its charging you currently btw
on ADR
should be fixed tomorrow
thats why we havent announced its "ready"
i noticed,had 12K and then Zero
lol
99 and 1199
Which are the correct numbers from the blog post. Just shows 10 and 30 which is incorrect.
quite decent i would say 2xt4s2 and t5s2
24k fuel haha for this
i added the Ish at the end
baaaammmmm! 84 ophisto
so T5S3's will now be trivial?
if OW has 10x rarity then there'll be a T5S3 every run
hey everyone, i will sell a lot of my illuvialls of level 60 / rarity 96-99 send me a private message if you need anything we can talk.. thanks 🥂
OW has 10x rarity to what?
previous odds
I think
I mean I'm seeing T5S3's in here like they're hot cake
Ya
on average 1 in 8 Stage 3 runs 1 will show up or so
yeah one of them sends you away
sent me here: illuvidex.sepolia-illuvium-game.io/fuel-exchange
where did you click it
how to get fuel?
thank you ser
no free fuel? @oblique roost
send me your address
0xc55c7e26831cbe54b0ca666d370d7e8f00e9f4bc
thanks
ok here's my first impressions on ADR:
- Don't like the drum sound when clicking cards.
- The rarity border needs improvement. Simply making it by tier is somewhat disappointing. A phyri and a scoriox shouldn't both be orange just because they're T4. Or at least have different degrees of the same colour. Although you have both T3's and T5's using purple...
Hm...about 100$ to get t5s3. Not that trivial.
yes for the current prices it isn't
shouldn't TPI matter to the opening rarity?
I get a T5 scarabok with such vibrant purple colour and then it's garbage with 13 TPI
yeah... I gotta say I'm not really a fan of this. Too much shininess for no apparent reason. When everything is shinny then you leave no space for something that's actually rare to be noticed and exciting to click. I get that you guys want to make the pack opening feel appealing but this isn't appealing me at all. Just my 0.02.
As a comparison, the Beyond opening experience is way better because you actually know when you get a red border it's something that's rare. In ADR you just copied the border concept without really grasping what makes it good.
If it was me designing this I would attribute the border colours based on the TPI and the illuvial's stage instead of simply the illuvial tier. E.g. the top vermillia would have a blue border and the bottom vermillia would have an orange border. And if instead of a vermillia it was a vermilliare with a 92 TPI it would be an over the top orange border.
Not to mention that the illuvials already appear ordered by tier, so I don't see why you would slam border rarity based on tier on top of it...
not to mention the pricing, which is completely overpriced once again. It's hard for me to understand how you guys still don't get this. An ADR isn't like buying a pack of cards. When you buy a pack of cards, you own the card and you play with it in the card game, meaning you only need one copy. In our case, owning an Illuvial means nothing. There's no ownership involved, at least for now. What drives replayability is actually the stats. I don't get how this isn't obvious. These ADRs, along with Overworld costs, need to be way, way cheaper.
how to use the auto drone ?
how to buy the fuel ? should i use sep testnet ?
It’s all on imx testnet which does run off of sepolia
is theres a reward for doing this testnet or not ?
how about the arena ?
No. There are not currently any rewards.
pokemon tcgp booster pack is $1.
do u think we should go lower?
how do we get sepolia eth
There are free faucets online to get some. Or if you post your passport address, I can send you some.
0x8a15585a6e80d978583fec4ce9bb773e1aa202e6
Ive never used a faucet before
Sent )
Thank you!
Now just buy fuel on the test site and you are good to go
These drone runs seem a bit overpowered
They will be a lot more expensive than they seem right now
$12 each time for the stronger one.
still seems like alot. I dont think it should be 8 illuvials imo. maybe 2-5 and some stacks on ingots
getting an ophisto for $12 vs fusing one for $60. I guess fusing you can control its stats
Yeah, fusing will be mainly for people going for perfect stats most likely.
unless we are strongly incentivizing leviathan, price wise, stronger pack seems 2 expensive. there is simply not enough utility for illuvials rn. Solve utility problem, and it might be ok.
also i would like to see a in between option: rn you can choose whether to spend 1$ or 13$. that is 13x the price. we need smth in between. For me, sweet spot is ~5$ (just like beyond disks).
I'll say it again. Comparing ADR with a card game is nonsense. When you get a pikachu you own that card, you can play with it and there's not a better version pikachu they're all the same. When you get an atlas from ADR that atlas having a TPI of 10 or 100 is a huge difference.
When is overworld back online?
you own the illuvial and you can play with it.
in your opinion, how much is the pack price should be taking account stats RNG
That may be true for the MMO not for the arena. Regarding price, at least reduced by half.
Got excited last night to see I could go to a region but then saw I couldn't get a weapon.
than you dont play pokemon 😄
there is 213 different pikachu versions and each has the same power, but different card with different price.
So i dont get your point


