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scarlet dew
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realistically when inor ults u have a moment to grapple to narnia

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some very bad terrain or some house

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but usually he will be able to catch u so u only buy some time

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he has pretty insane movement

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so generally if u dont have ult that counters inor

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u are basically dead

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and not many ults counter him

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the gameplay against him is basically same as against other transformers

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just he has the best mobility out of all

empty swallow
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good players get a good grapple away and i pretty much forget about chasing them and focus on those who did not react on time or on peel

empty swallow
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u just need to recognize the attack animations to know the timing at which to dodge

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and the inor can try to mix you up, at this point it is your reaction speed that matters most

scarlet dew
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the stamina u have is not sufficient to dodge everything

empty swallow
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vs good players i mix it up by doing empty jumps, weird angle attacks so it's harder to see animation etc.

empty swallow
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and in this time you can double jump grapple away or scale rush

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i told u, enemy inors can't touch me in ult form, because i know this character and his attacks

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u can perma kite him 1 on 1

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he relies on his teammates to stagger for him

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as fast as he is, every single action he can do is reactable, his V1 F being probably hardest to dodge

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subtle animation and fast speed

scarlet dew
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problem is when i play against rivelia who knows what he is doing

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its doomed

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if i try jumping or scale rushing i just get imapled by spear throw

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and die

empty swallow
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a good player will make it hard yes

scarlet dew
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and when rivelia goes on somebody he is basically mega dead, even in rift

empty swallow
scarlet dew
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where people have mortal defiance pop for 1k and big hp pools

empty swallow
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after he is transformed, if u do a double jump or if u try to grapple away, or god forbid you double jump into grapple, and inor is not stunned/in recovery animations, you are asking "LOOK AT ME PLEASE KILL ME"

scarlet dew
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yep exactly

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thats why i said u have a moment when he transforms

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and u better hope u have some really dogshit terrain in the vicinity

empty swallow
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i havent run into rivelia on inor yet so i cant comment, but it sounds same as me

scarlet dew
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that being said

empty swallow
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if i commit to one person

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unless it's someone with giga survivability/mobility

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they are likely going to die

scarlet dew
empty swallow
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bc i know how to throw people off their dodging

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not bc inor is op

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most inors you can just dodge on reaction

scarlet dew
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if inor knows what he is doing, best case scenario u will take a bunch of damage and waste a bunch of abilities

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worst case scenario u just die

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the fact he can dodge

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makes him far more difficult to deal with

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classic transformer counters like tessa arent so good anymore

empty swallow
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there are plenty of counters

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maybe you dont run them in your comp

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but i run into them all the time

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half the time, my ult is just to help my team survive the enemy team's ults

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and to turn it into a fight without ults for anyone

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he is also relatively easy to kill in transformed state

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a couple CC abilities and some focus attacks and he's dead

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especially valda spears that increase damage taken

scarlet dew
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valda spears dont increase damage taken

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the only ability that increases damage taken is tarka fireball

empty swallow
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oh yes you're right, i mixed it up

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soak reduces dmg dealt, not increase dmg taken

scarlet dew
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yeah and its just 5% anyway

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most of the time soak is just liability

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when it cleanses burn dmg

kind ginkgo
frosty dagger
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idk why i cant dodge viper combo after she does the silence f skill then do 2 longsword vertical attack

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i try to dodge her uppercut after that cuz i know the combo isnt true but somehow i still get caught by it

kind ginkgo
frosty dagger
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it was one second of me actually dodging it then the next second, still get caught

kind ginkgo
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Then it's ms, yeah

frosty dagger
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what a game

kind ginkgo
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Time to swap to LAN games 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

finite burrow
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What’s the best glyphs for Valda now?

empty swallow
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if u have a video

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i can tell u what happened

empty swallow
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they could've just tech chased u

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u can catch someone after their dodge

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if u know they're gonna spam dodge

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u just time ur attack right and get extra damage

stone jungle
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Can justina freeze ppl in blue focus with some glyphs?

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with her V1 dashes

umbral monolith
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think she can if she uses the AOE first

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dont remember the interaction exactly tho

scarlet dew
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so it can freeze even in ability focus

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she does aoe ice mist around her

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when doing this

stone jungle
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Aight thx

lament lance
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what glyph should I use for viper? and what abilites should I use?

frosty dagger
# empty swallow they could've just tech chased u

they didnt tech chase at all, its just uppercut after that, tried to dodge it, well its not even a whole second (i exaggerated it), but it was noticeable for a few frames that i dodged it but i still get caught by it

frosty dagger
wanton nexus
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is viper ning good for solo?

finite burrow
kind ginkgo
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Just go with what u feel that might be fun to try for the moment

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Trial and error is the way

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For sure there are some players like @empty swallow that know the new system better tho 👍👍

umbral monolith
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atp just play akos

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combo starter, combo breaker, combo extender, heal, hyperarmor

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mobility, chase

empty swallow
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and im trying cooldown vs rage/s

kind ginkgo
umbral monolith
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no selfheal

stone jungle
umbral monolith
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his ult was a combobreaker no?

stone jungle
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ah jeah okay I thought he got one for his F now

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AIght got enough of valda who should I play next?

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Yoto, Lannie, Kurumi, Viper or Tessa (all in duos)

kind ginkgo
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All good picks 🤔

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Id maybe put Lannie a bit down the list tho, she's super fun, but they keep nerfing her

stone jungle
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True

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the dmg reduction nerf was devastating

kind ginkgo
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More the old ult nerf on infinites

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Now that 70% to 30% dmg reduction was the fatal blow

stone jungle
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Jeah that just changed her compete nature rather than just being a nerf. Went from a combo queen to being a survival character above all else

stone jungle
kind ginkgo
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Justina will always be strong

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Personally I find her a bit boring, but you can do some cool stuff with her 🤔👍. (Her play style does not work well with mine)

stone jungle
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Hmm I mean I Mostly play characters like valda to survive a bit longer once my mates dead or smth. Usinbg combo extenders / starters

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Tessa just has cool voicelines in English and is a chill char to play. Zai is jus sick cuz chainscythe while Yotos ult is super satisfying and has great potential imo

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And they all got drip without my wallet bleeding for it as much

kind ginkgo
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Yoto is super strong indeed

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Zai is meh, I'm personally not a fan

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Tessa is easy and straightforward 🤔👍

finite burrow
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If anyone plays Valda please let me know what glyphs you using 🙏🏻🙏🏻

snow coyote
vagrant hamlet
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does anyone has any screenshots of new glyphs from cn pros?

stone jungle
scarlet dew
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looks usable

stone jungle
scarlet dew
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although idk if cooldown is better than 40% rage/s

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thats a ton of rage

stone jungle
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Jeah thats what I though too. Ive only played like 5 matches yet tho so cant rly say much. In general chat some1 send those in but idk from wich cn player it originates from

scarlet dew
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how useful was the sprint?

stone jungle
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So far Its kinda meh. I mostly play duos so it didnt rly save me from being staggered as I rarely have enough stam to use it. For movement in general i havent tried it out as much as it needs aton of stam and just blue canceling is faster imo

scarlet dew
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thats what i was thinking

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the stamina refund looks more beneficial

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also i'd put 1 point in dodge after parry

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with abundance of long range weapons like knives and whipsword

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having gap closer to release parry can be quite significant

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i kinda want to try it out in zai ult

stone jungle
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true coul be interesting

scarlet dew
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but going full red rage + full green rage

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that seems scary

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i think in yang u can just ult twice

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with that setup

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and u can get green focus + 10% DR in ult

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or 20% DR

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or big distance in green

stone jungle
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Maybe

scarlet dew
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i tested little bit green focus

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looks pretty nice

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it will probably not save u super much from tech chase

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but should be good enough to not get 100-0'd before u ult

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green into ult or F

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should be nice

stone jungle
scarlet dew
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i think its probably more significant for chars without combo breaker

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like inor

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or if u play justina f1 v2

stone jungle
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Idk who to learn next rn

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Is feria good in duos?

drifting pollen
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In case anyone was curious about Tianhai's glyph board... nothing changed aotsmirk

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Rage build till my heart is filled

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Ult bot till the gods rot

stone jungle
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tuff

kind ginkgo
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I'll test Sunday evening and I'll come back with a possible Tod using green focus 🤔😂

stone jungle
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Wich F and V on akos? Also does some1 have glyphs for him?

lament lance
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Have you guys found the viper build now?

gloomy brook
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what does can dodge befre counterstrike combos mean, they remove the ability to cancel the initial strike?

umbral monolith
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it does literally what it says it does

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you parry, you can dodge towards your opponent, you can do the counterattack

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without it if you dodge after parry you lose the counterattack

modest kernel
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If anyone plays Wuchen, Lyam, Temulch, Inor... please let me know what glyphs you using for solos and duos ❤️ ty

quaint citrus
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Do anyone know kylin glyph?

queen glen
red relic
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Yo guys who are the best characters for solo

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Been one tricking justina but I've been losing so much fight where it's ult for ult cause of all them golden focus its hard to play around

fallow venture
jagged dock
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What is a true ranged shot ? I want to learn Feria

slate sierra
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True means that something is guaranteed to land unless the person has a combo breaker. So for feria if you hit someone with her F2 you can follow up with a musket shot for example that they can’t dodge because they are still staggered from the F2 shot

scarlet dew
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i think this green focus glyph is kinda garbage

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i played 2 games with it

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i did not activate even once

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and i played without combo breaker

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and one time i was getting mega juggled by 2 ppl

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in dreadful wail

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and it didnt even reach meter

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i saw the purple sprint used just once

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in all the games i played

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it did nothing

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the rage path glyphs are crazy

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u basically ult 24/7

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its insane

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and purples are just solid

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u get stamina for days and grapple distance

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and optionally u can get dodge parry

slate sierra
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yeah I don’t think I’ll ever run green focus.. as far as green tree goes.. 40% initial rage is ridiculous 😂 obviously you only get the profit of that once but the rage/dmg taken is still good

scarlet dew
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ye 40% initial rage is mega good on start

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but also...

slate sierra
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It’s also very funny on things like Tessa if you wanna be toxic and ult instantly lol

scarlet dew
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if u have last rage glyph

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if u parry someone at start

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u gonna get 52362464534 rage anyway

slate sierra
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Yeah I’m not saying it’s more optimal than red

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Just funny & huge adv in hot dropping scenarios

scarlet dew
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i think full greens with 20% dmg reduction on ult

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is pretty solid

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but green focus just didnt do anything special

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and i was lacking stamina

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i literally didnt trigger it 1 time

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in 2 full games where i win lobby

slate sierra
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Yeah on my initial rage Tessa page I have the dmg reduction on ult instead

scarlet dew
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and i never seen enemy trigger it

slate sierra
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Esp since she ults so often

scarlet dew
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one time there was kurumba

slate sierra
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Def doesn’t feel bad

scarlet dew
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that got the green focus activated

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at 1 % hp

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spoiler: she died

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maybe money path could be interesting

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for 7% dr and attack

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for something like zai

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but idk man

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early and middle glyphs on money path

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they are ugh

slate sierra
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This was my “as much rage as I can fit” Tessa page 😂 and I was ulting so often it was crazy

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I know I could axe the stam and go red but honestly this was so much rage I feel like i don’t need more

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I’m gonna try a purple/red page and see if I prefer that over the green. Old glyphs I usually took rage/dmg taken since the values were a higher % than rage/dmg dealt

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but obviously the middle and final red nodes are also jam packed with rage which could easily offset or surpass the % difference

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At the cost of the huge initial rate advantage ofc tho

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Rage*

scarlet dew
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tbh this is not too much rage

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just when u start game

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u have ult basically

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the last rage glyph tho

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it goes fully insane

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and 40% rage/sec

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also is insane

hexed crane
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Any suggestion for Viper trios?

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F is Yushan strike

jolly kelp
jagged dock
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Is feria decent/usable in solo duos and trios ?

jolly kelp
jagged dock
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okay. should i always use F2V2 ?

jagged dock
quaint citrus
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Glyphs for kylin?

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Trios

jolly kelp
empty swallow
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zai would be one of the best users of this

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juggernaut, 16 atk, plus this

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scary

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some dmg reduction jades and even with the dmg reduction ult glyph

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would be rly hard to deal with

empty swallow
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u could run the combo break for solos

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but for team modes, the silencing shot is very good

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u can ask penemue more for feria tips he plays her a lot

jagged dock
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thanks but yeah i feel like F2 is too fun to use

chrome cliff
chrome cliff
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it's only for team modes

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f2 doesn't do anything in Solos apart from third party engage

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in other cases you're playing a character without abilities

jagged dock
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ok

solar lava
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can someone share the gylph that u are using for akos Kylin_hearty

alpine forum
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anyone got a gylph build for solo's tarka ji?

gritty bone
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vast jay
alpine forum
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that was what i was guessing

copper orbit
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What’s best glyphs for kurumi/zip?

snow latch
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best glyphs to do everything ?

fervent yarrow
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I login and the glyphs are all reworked again

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That's crazy

slate sierra
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Yeah, it’s a bit early but def a lot of Red + Purple tree combinations

fervent yarrow
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The 24 coins per second is actually kinda insane

gritty bone
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onyx ridge
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Can anyone share lannie glyphs for duo please Kurumi_Helpmeout

worthy venture
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Any good Viper glyph builds

gritty bone
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jolly kelp
empty swallow
jolly kelp
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ye

empty swallow
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you have nitro, you mind changing your profile pic and banner for this server? the server is pg13 rated meaning there are kids here

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@fervent yarrow

worthy venture
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Both please

empty swallow
worthy venture
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Many thanks

lament lance
empty swallow
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use it for viper

lament lance
empty swallow
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yes

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u can also try green if u want to hotdrop insta ult

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but i don't like this path personally

quaint citrus
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Akos trio glyph?

lament lance
kind ginkgo
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This might be of use to check out 👍

gritty bone
lime skiff
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this might be a stupid question but how do i handle/counter inor wans ult? so far i either simply died to it or sometimes when i react fast enough i managed to get away and wait it out lol

empty swallow
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there are characters that directly counter his ult with abilities

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for example justina, shayol, valda, lannie, tianhai

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outside of that, the moment he ults, you need to react and grapple/scale rush away to safety

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and if you can't do that

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spread out and get away from the rest of his team, so he has to fight you 1 on 1 because the worst thing you can do against inor is be grouped with your team

karmic wolf
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friendly reminder that this only works reliably if you are connected via LAN to a node with a NASA PC

empty swallow
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38ms ain't that crazy and this is just tap dodging my friend

finite shard
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how should I use Akos's ultimates

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I'm not particularly bad at the game I ussualy always win either way but his ultimates never really means anything in a fight when I use it

solar lava
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its pretty similar to tarka ults tho Tianhai_KimchiDerp

rancid fiber
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solar lava
little cargo
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Go ask someone else, I am absolutely out of touch Matari_Pepe_Laugh

solar lava
little cargo
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Joke aside, welcome back and if you have anything to ask, just ask

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Especially with all the new weapons, rework and new character

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to the point your name is no longer ironic

solar lava
rancid fiber
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👍

lime skiff
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i guess its just down to practice and being able to react faster

inor wans ult is the only ult where i felt kinda helpless and died the most to so far

jolly kelp
kind ginkgo
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The faster you manage to get away, the better

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Going up buildings makes it significantly harder for inor to follow you aswell

lime skiff
empty swallow
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i hate her so much lol

empty swallow
lime skiff
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thanks so far everyone, these tips were actually really helpful!!

empty swallow
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well for me that part came from playing inor

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i know the timing of his attacks and how long his recovery animations are

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where my friends panic and die to him, he can't touch me

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so you might benefit from trying inor in practice and getting to know how his ult works

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even if he marks you with lightning you are very safe unless you make a mistake

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the rmb is slow, against good players i always need to play mindgames and fake them out to misdodge first before i can hit them

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you need to make a mistake or get staggered by his teammate to get hit by it

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like with tianhai grab

lime skiff
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i will def try playing him!

gritty bone
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hihi

gritty bone
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anyone

quaint citrus
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Yes

quaint citrus
gritty bone
quaint citrus
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me night owl

slate schooner
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Who do yall recommend for new players

gritty bone
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?

quaint citrus
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in training

alpine forum
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tarka ji solo?

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do you spec into green?

jolly kelp
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40% starting rage

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Really good

quaint citrus
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Hadi glyph?

gritty bone
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too much 40%

quaint citrus
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Huh?

jagged patio
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Viper guide<3 looking also to learn everything i can about her to be a sucessful main

alpine forum
gritty bone
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40% so fast v

little cargo
quaint citrus
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Best for early fights

gritty bone
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yes

gritty bone
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hard play , i like hide

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no like flight

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xd

jagged dock
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for people who play supports in trios, who do you play in solos ? is kurumi the only support that is bad in solos ?

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any tips for kurumi ? when do i use her tether ?

kind ginkgo
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Kurumi is bad in solos only and mostly because she has a kit that relies on an ally

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Overall you want to tether your ally whenever they are fighting; the choice on whether to heal or to teleport or to empower,.. is totally up to you after that

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The most important skills to have and develop with this character are :

  1. Staying alive when enemies chase you. A kurumi, as any support will get chased down on sight
  2. Positioning and decision. You need to be able to position yourself in a way where you can be useful to your teammate and where your ultimate is in a good ground for them (basically where they are fighting)
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Plus a few general things that work pretty much for any character

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As to how to play kurumi, there are a few nice guides on how to play support I reckon. Even penemue's video on how positions for trios work explains a bit 👍👍

gritty bone
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i see

jagged dock
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thanks

gritty bone
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thanks too

quaint citrus
gritty bone
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xd

drifting pollen
gritty bone
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wow

loud lichen
empty swallow
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your link itself heals HP

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and when you cancel the ability it heals extra bit of armor, or gives dmg reduction, both are situationally used at a correct timing, or you can jump to your teammate and combo break for them

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u use what the situation demands

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and your ult is just to keep your team alive when they're about to take too much damage

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it rapidly regens your team's armor

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though if you use it too late they'll die even while standing in it

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and the ult can synergize with other elemental attacks

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like tarka can turn the healing circle into a burning circle

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common combo

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but kurumi is an enabler

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she keeps her team alive so they can do more of what they already do

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she has almost no tools for herself

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so your gameplay outside of using abilities needs to be good

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a bad kurumi is just a free defenseless target

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a good kurumi is someone hard to kill who makes her teammates hard to kill

gritty bone
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i see

teal bay
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hi, i'm trying to figure out if Zai is good or not, is she a random damage dealer or has some good mechanics?

kind ginkgo
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she is really straightforward. her main focus is the ultimate which gives her a weapon that deals aoe dmg, possibly burn aswell, and that can't be parried

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her downside is that she is a bit weak in chasing down opponents, but once she ults no one pretty much can fight her in a direct confrontation

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cc is her enemy, but aside from that, she's quite strong at low levels of gameplay usually

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till two seasons ago, she was part of one of the main comps for trios in professional gameplay. atm shes solid, but not for solos i'd say

scarlet dew
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she's only ok if u can dodge majority of stuff thrown at u and u are effective at chasing down people

teal bay
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so ig its using her is not the best idea

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played only valda since i started playing so its kinda difficult to use any other unit lol

glossy ore
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best yoto hime glyphes?

olive sun
# glossy ore best yoto hime glyphes?

general page is good enough
if you can manage without the stamina stuffs then you could reduce purple and take rage/dmg taken & starting rage on green tree

glossy ore
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tough frigate
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Lannie Gylph and allat in Trios?

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I really like her shes super fun

gritty bone
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?

kind ginkgo
slate sierra
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Lannie def struggles in trios though

hexed crane
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Any Zai main to give me any feedback?

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Thanks in advance

scarlet dew
gritty bone
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hi

loud lichen
gritty bone
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^^

wheat panther
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hi im pretty new to the game, I main valda cui and dont know what to do in the glyph page, can someone help?

empty swallow
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you got it the wrong way around

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besides that keep it

wheat panther
gritty bone
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i see

wheat panther
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or anyone else who knows the game better than me :-:

loud lichen
empty swallow
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u can use this setup for almost all cases

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especially damage dealing characters that have a useful F ability

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the purple part is universally good for everyone

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grapple distance and stamina recovery

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chasing, moving around, running away and neutral

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red part is to recover more ult, specifically for doing damage/combat actions/killing and reducing F cooldown

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it's a damage-dealing combat focused glyph board

wheat panther
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thank you so much

glossy ore
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best inor wan glyphes?

dense warren
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Was about to ask this myself lol

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Probably something with rage

civic nimbus
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Anyone know anything about Lyam, he doesn’t seem to have as much as the others is he that new?

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2024 release, I figured he would have more. I like his kit and hoping I didn’t waste my hero coin

olive sun
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have much of what?

rocky dove
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Lyams pretty strong he has a bit of everything CB pull Cc

civic nimbus
rocky dove
civic nimbus
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The Yama one is my favorite other than the red Lambent. But I don’t think I will see that for awhile

loud lichen
solar lava
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hi guys, what f and v for cyra in solo/trios, what are the gylphs for her ty ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

gritty bone
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xd

loud lichen
gritty bone
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^^

little cargo
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That's all I know of her

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V1 seems to be more dps focus and V2 is more CC focus

solar lava
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Do i just take default gylphs for her ?

kind ginkgo
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Still he's been out and about for about 1 year

little cargo
stone jungle
lime skiff
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currently i like to play lannie, zai, kurumi and yoto hime. can anyone recommend which characters of these characters are good for solos, duos, trios? i also dont mind explanations as to why if someone wants to take the time ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

empty swallow
empty swallow
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zai kurumi yoto good for trio

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i've yet to see a useful lannie in trios

finite burrow
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What ult is better for Tessa in solo and trios? I’ve recently started to play Tessa

slate sierra
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V1

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The CC is much longer and allows for more time to capitalize with coordinated blues or set up for a combo

lapis matrix
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Do we got an updated list of recommended glyph pans that we can pin in this channel?

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For each hero

snow latch
#

where in the game can i find each characters marital weapons

little cargo
snow latch
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That is the weapon that the character is best suited for or the suggested weapon that they would normally use

kind ginkgo
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only place where you got locked weapons is pve; but every character can play any weapon; after all it's rng drops, if it weren't the case it wouldnt make sense

loud lichen
acoustic badger
little cargo
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it is just how you use them

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There are combo that character+weapons specific, however you can just play with them indenpendantly most of the time

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But if you don't know which weapon to master, try all of them seperately and see which one you are more comfortable with

empty swallow
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u use what u find

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some characters have combo starters

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those are good with weapons that have strong combos

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tarka has a greatsword infinite combo

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justina and valda and lyam can do ToD with some weapons and their ultimates, feria has a good combo with f2 and bow

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those are the exceptions

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but in general there is a way to make every combination work

lapis matrix
empty swallow
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scroll up for 2 seconds

jolly kelp
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mike and sr team have came out with their glyphs now

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pretty much all the glyph plans i posted in this channel when the update first dropped with some slight changes

stone jungle
#

How do I do the viper restand?

lapis matrix
#

Thank you@jolly kelp

deft quail
#

Whats the best Glyph plan for Zai?

jolly kelp
deft quail
empty swallow
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zai one is so tanky if the focus one works with her ult focus attacks

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i actually wanna test it now

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the focus dmg reduction glyph doesn't work on focus attacks

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now i will test if it again works only on the first attack or all white attacks

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with glyph from halberds v v

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without glyph

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no dmg numbers when the bot hits me, this is the best i can do rn

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looks to be about 20% so i think this time they fixed it to make it work on all white attacks that hit you while charging

stone jungle
#

Is Zai viable for trios? If yes what kinda comp does she play in?

rocky dove
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3rd player could play flexible

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Probably healer or Cyra

loud lichen
slate sierra
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Zais trios comps were
Zai, Matari, Zip
And then
Zai, Matari, Cyra

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But she’s fallen out of favour recently, since she struggles a lot against transformers and we just got a new one (Inor)

teal bay
#

best gylph setup for justina?

hidden marten
#

anyone has glyph for solo?

finite burrow
empty swallow
#

what is the infinite yoto ult combo input

rocky dove
chrome cliff
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viper zai matari

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zai matari kurumi

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zai valda hadi(v1)

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zai temulch kurumi

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can probably also make experimental comps like zai tessa wuchen(v1)

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zai is generally best with matari and a support, but she can also work with valda +1

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the valda version struggles against temulch though, which is why running a temulch counter or your own temulch are handy

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every once in a while, npbl players come up with a new unexpected zaichopath comp

frosty dagger
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Can someone help me with disengage glyph, I'm playing as tianhai in trio with disengage build but when I get staggered, I don't see the disengage accumulate at all.

willow vault
#

glyph for kylin?

finite burrow
willow vault
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thank you

fervent plover
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ive noticed alot of the glyph guides dont put any points towards shared fortune or blessed, are these not worth it?

loud lichen
solar lava
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is cyra a good champ recently, she isnt as strong as i felt when i had to face her Tianhai_KimchiDerp

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should have considered her state before buying skin xdd

stone jungle
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Imo there's no best pick. Cya is one of the better picks tho

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Cyra

kind ginkgo
slate sierra
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V2 Cyra is super strong

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V1 still has its uses but overall I think V2 is better now

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V2 allows for hella damage and healing + a safety net for your team, as it’s pop will dazzle transformers too so it’s effective against Inor if he’s trying to hard stick on one of your teammates

teal bay
#

this aight for justina?

finite burrow
teal bay
frosty dagger
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Can someone help me with disengage glyph, I'm playing as tianhai in trio with disengage build but when I get staggered, I don't see the disengage accumulate at all.

kind ginkgo
frosty dagger
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does it also work

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in custom ranked mode

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cuz when i tested there

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it also didnt charge

kind ginkgo
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It does charge afaik

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I haven't seen it in ranked tho

jolly kelp
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cn used it for first day no-one using now tho

final spruce
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When playing trios as Viper Ning, is one ultimate/V ability better to use, or is it down to personal preference? I've been using the stun, but all the top Vipers I'm running into are using the silence instead.

kind ginkgo
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depends on the comp you are running

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if you are playing a cc heavy comp like telmuch viper then stun is better

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otherwise if you are just there for silence, then silence it is

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both ults are good

solar lava
wraith frigate
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that's skill cd reductionTianhai_Pepe_Hmm

solar lava
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nevermind then Matari_Pepe_Laugh

fading zephyr
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any zai guides ?

kind ginkgo
wet galleon
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xD

acoustic swan
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anyone have tips for justina gu ? i cant hit anyone whit the dash and focus attack, i keep either focusing too early and cancelling the dash, or miss the dash

kind ginkgo
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She's really just a hero you need to practice to get the hang of 👍

acoustic swan
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damn

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ok

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thx

kind ginkgo
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As for the dash into focus, you mean when you freeze someone?

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Because when you dash into someone that's in a focus stance you will only stagger them briefly. This gives an opening to start a combo, but without the freeze you can't unleash a guaranteed focus attack

empty swallow
empty swallow
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it's all about knowing timing

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practice the timing for focus release, but more likely for combos, players generally know they need to hold blue to not get frozen

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or practice double/infinite dashes

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by cancelling with space and whipping ur camera 180 degrees

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v1 justina can be very rewarding if you are fast and if you practiced

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she can also kill someone off of one combo starter with the right weapon

empty swallow
#

yeah

iron spruce
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trying out kurumi, whats the f ult setup and if you do your umbrella you cant really attack can you?

olive sun
iron spruce
olive sun
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yes, keep tethering or lmb or rmb, depends on the situation

iron spruce
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whats a good glyph for her?

olive sun
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i don't play her so idk, but i believe it was discussed in this channel before

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just search for ''kurumi glyph''

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and read the conversation to know why her glyph is like that

iron spruce
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yup thats what i did thank you i appreciate the responses

jagged dock
#

Any tips using tianhai or yueshan ? I find myself struggling to hit opponents and not knowing what to do if they disengage

slate sierra
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Honestly as a transformer it’s really up to your team to hold them down. If they start spam grappling/scale rushing away during your transformation animation there isn’t anything you can do by yourself. They just need to choose one person and hold them as best they can to provide stagger so you can land the grab or get on them

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As yue or Inor you could try practicing your movement, I’ve never seen you play so I have no idea what your skill level is, but it’s the only thing you can really do on your own.

acoustic swan
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thx to u both, didn’t even know she stunned when someone is focused…. @empty swallow @kind ginkgo

little cargo
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Tianhai you can somewhat time your projectile grab with your opponent grapple away but that is easier said than done due to people often cut line of sight before grapple

acoustic swan
stone jungle
#

whos better for duos and trios? Kurumi or ziping? My mate plays inor and/ or temulch. I usually also play cc chars like justina or tessa or viper but a healer would be pretty neat

stone jungle
#

like a complete version of that tt

empty swallow
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when you dash through 2 or more people, it doesn't consume the dash

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so you can infinitely dash (until your ult duration runs out)

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so long as you keep dashing through more than one person

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and there is nothing they can do about it if you do it correctly

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deadliest weapon for this is greatsword, you can just dash lmb dash lmb dash lmb dash lmb

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and it does massive damage

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but this requires a bit of practice and muscle memory

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and enemies to be stupid enough to misposition vs justina

acoustic swan
acoustic swan
stone jungle
empty swallow
#

no

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enemies

stone jungle
#

aight makes sense

empty swallow
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so the worst thing you can do vs justina v1 is line up in a straight line with your teammates towards her

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if u do this and justina has a brain cell you all die

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it's my main callout to my teammates when justina uses v1, don't line up

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so if ur a justina main

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u need to learn to do this

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every time u see an opportunity u could destroy a team

stone jungle
#

Jeah my mate often plays Temulch and I Justina. Works pretty damn well. Third teammate is just kinda a flex spot

empty swallow
#

yeahh

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temmy and justina can kill for sure

jagged dock
indigo mulchBOT
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🎉 | Sourballen leveled up!

acoustic swan
empty swallow
#

but

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for justina

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it's key to have good mechanical skill

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u need to practice your mechanics

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your micro

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justina with v1 is a pure skill issue character

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if you have the skill you will do great

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if you don't, your ultt will feel like it's bad

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so practice a lot

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until it's effortless

scarlet dew
#

v1 justina is also scam character depending on ping and fps

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dash into combo starter should not be true

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but its true in majority of cases

empty swallow
#

wdym not true

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it staggers

stone jungle
scarlet dew
empty swallow
scarlet dew
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yeah thats my point

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if everybody had proper ping and hardware

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it should never happen

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same as if u hit someone with heng sword lmb blue

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the guy who got hit should be able to hold blue

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but its not the case a lot of the time

acoustic swan
empty swallow
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combo is more dmg if u can do it

vast jay
#

does wuchen ult spirit blades scale with weapon tier?

acoustic swan
empty swallow
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Universally

empty swallow
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Its not hard

acoustic swan
#

btw if i use valdas F ability that locks opponent, not the combo breaker, but the one u can shoot, can i enter a combo?

acoustic swan
empty swallow
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You just combo them long enough but not fully, and dash after the freeze immunity runs out

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Some weapons can do infinite easily like knives

acoustic swan
empty swallow
acoustic swan
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thx

mighty fox
#

Can you still do the katana infinite combo with tarka ji ult or has it been nerfed? If so how many times is it still possible? I'd like to practice it but I need to know whats still possible 🙏🏻

rocky dove
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I think 3 upper cuts is the limit on stamina

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Other that that play around with float ideas

mighty fox
rocky dove
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Stamina management, I think 3 is all that can be done before having to do something else to recover then get them into another juggle

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I don’t think we have many tarka mains here but @empty swallow might have a better idea of how to explain it

empty swallow
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i dont play tarka

mighty fox
rocky dove
small grove
#

Hi, is there a tier list for solo mode? All the ones I see are dated

empty swallow
#

could try inor too

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tarka can work

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the rest i wouldn't use

finite burrow
wet galleon
#

xd

small grove
little cargo
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But I don't think you will fight any real players before you could max out the glyphs point

loud abyss
#

Anyone got a good glyph setup for tessa? For both duos and trios. She's one of my mains but currently focused on valda this season

fervent plover
#

is there a good glymph guide for kurumi?

stone jungle
#

Glyphs for Zai? (Duo/trios)

indigo mulchBOT
#

🎉 | Bird leveled up!

earnest star
stone jungle
#

How good is feria in duos?

loud lichen
kind ginkgo
#

but consider that in duos pretty much anything works

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as long as you are comfortable

earnest star
stone jungle
earnest star
lapis matrix
#

Does anyone know why most of the qr codes i try to import from that naraka wonderland website dont work ? Most of them either say customization not detected or import failed errors. Is there something im doing wrong?

finite burrow
lapis matrix
#

So it wont work if i just add the naraka logo to the picture?

finite burrow
lapis matrix
#

What does convert it mean?

finite burrow
fervent plover
#

Any of y’all got
Tips for Kurumi

rocky dove
wet galleon
#

a

grave scaffold
#

how im supposed to counter iron wan as zai?

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keep distance and constantly be elivated?

slate sierra
#

Zai struggles with transformers, ideally you want to kite out his ult and then re-engage with yours. If you ult before or at the same time as Inor he will just focus you and knock you out of your charged attacks

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Zai is really hard to play in the current meta tbh. Transformers and characters like Kylin, Cyra hard counter her. You have to be really good at spacing and dodging since pretty much every ability in the game can knock Zai on her ass or CC her in her ult, and Zai ult doesn’t offer any added survivability like other ults do (Kylin mortal defiance, Cyra healing or additional healthbar depending on V variation, transformer full health reset, etc)

stone jungle
#

And wich F is better?

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And any glyphs?

scarlet dew
#

the only thing u can do is instantly leave

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and wait out his ult

fervent plover
#

im going between kurumis 2 F abilities is there one that is better?

rocky dove
fervent plover
gloomy brook
#

on a few transformers its fine but lately its been the case for so many heroes

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inor, cyra, kylin, reworked tarka zzz

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stuff like justina and shayol is actually fun and interactive

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and not just gold focus checks

empty swallow
empty swallow
loud lichen
gloomy brook
#

those rubberband to shit as well

wet galleon
#

wow

solemn osprey
#

Hi, do you know any detailed video guides for the Adventure mode, for example, on how to choose the right Jades and upgrade them? (Main hero: Yoto Hime)

proper parcel
#

ello, I kinda just joined, any tips on Zai? C:

kind ginkgo
solemn osprey
kind ginkgo
kind ginkgo
#

Np Kylin_hearty

chrome cliff
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it's what literally every beginner zai does in duos

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aim up against people who jump to punish them

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note that the big burn cannot be aimed up

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if you play the damage F, find yourself a matari teammate and save your third F for escaping as a soft combo breaker (you have at least 3 Fs per fight, 1 from the start, 1 from matari ult refresh, 1 from your ult refresh)

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have her link with you in execution combos

chrome cliff
#

hit air combos, i have matari perspective but you can see and hear what zai does

proper parcel
chrome cliff
acoustic swan
#

any glyphs and/or tips for tarka ji?

kind ginkgo
#

State*

acoustic swan
kind ginkgo
#

Nop the other one

acoustic swan
#

oh

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don’t understand it tbh

kind ginkgo
#

Fireballs are generally thought to be underperforming

acoustic swan
#

yea they do less damage than i though

kind ginkgo
#

If u want good tips for tarka I recommend checking DunkingDonut's stream

acoustic swan
#

ok

kind ginkgo
acoustic swan
#

and zai?

kind ginkgo
#

Reaaaally straigjtforward

acoustic swan
#

yea

kind ginkgo
#

The only issue is when the enemy starts running away

acoustic swan
#

js tried her out after a long time

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easy win

kind ginkgo
#

She's a noob stomper usually

acoustic swan
#

yea

kind ginkgo
#

When enemies understand better the game, not really

acoustic swan
#

can hit uppercut combos too

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yea i figured that out

kind ginkgo
acoustic swan
#

js 2x horizontal, uppercut and air horizontal spam

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and a focus to finish off

kind ginkgo
acoustic swan
#

worked quit well last game

kind ginkgo
#

Just release in their face, they can't parry anyways

acoustic swan
#

wait fr?

kind ginkgo
#

Zai ult is golden focus, it's not parriable

acoustic swan
#

btw, which is better V1 V2

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the one that burns?

kind ginkgo
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Burning one

acoustic swan
#

oh, i played the other one

kind ginkgo
#

The other one I know no one that uses it

acoustic swan
#

lol

kind ginkgo
#

Consider that burns ignore shield, they burn real hp

acoustic swan
#

ohh ok

kind ginkgo
#

Hence it's super strong in itself

acoustic swan
#

ok ok, and F

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the combo breaker is better right?

kind ginkgo
#

Here for each and every character

acoustic swan
#

ok thx

kind ginkgo
#

Np Kylin_hearty

acoustic swan
#

btw

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do u know if the NBPL caps got given out?

kind ginkgo
#

No idea tbf

acoustic swan
#

don’t see the results but the tournament is finished no?

kind ginkgo
acoustic swan
#

ok

kind ginkgo
#

I haven't been following this one, had a bit of my plate

acoustic swan
#

thx for ur time

kind ginkgo
#

Np 👍, always happy to help

wet galleon
#

wow

chrome cliff
#

in team modes, v2 is better usually

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you could make an argument for running v1 with ziping and matari for lifesteal, but burn is gonna be more useful

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since it disables enemy ziping

cloud jay
#

hello need glyph guide for trios

hearty quiver
#

Inor Wan is such an annoying character, how do you even counter his stun and ult?

spice kelp
#

What is the waterwheel ?

slate sierra
#

It’s propped up by boxes, if you melee or shoot the boxes the wheel will roll down the valley and it does a lot of damage to anyone it hits.

mighty fox
#

hey guys which zai ability (f not ult) is better and why?

slate sierra
#

In team modes F2 is valued more than F1. Zai is what we call position 1, she is an aggressive character usually first into the fight. F2 allows her to be very aggressive since you can reset it by ulting as well to really stick to someone. It also applies burn which is useful in cutting healing from characters like Ziping

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F1 is really only played in solos, where you don’t have teammates to peel for you.

mighty fox
#

okay got it thx for the help~ Kylin_hearty

acoustic swan
#

any specific strats for tarka? like a mechanic or anything

little cargo
#

He can cancel his animations as long as it is not stagger, so you can do ridiculous things like dodge out of getting parried, cancel your recovery. At the same time when you are in V, if you input a dodge while running, you will do a palm attack that starts a combo

pine creek
#

Guys why do I no longer see Hadi in matches?

rocky dove
kind ginkgo
#

To*

wet galleon
#

x

pine creek
kind ginkgo
#

TBF it's hard. U buff the dmg and he's top meta, u don't touch him and he's average.

#

Issue is that there simply are better characters

chrome cliff
#

and you can't do that anymore

#

hadi is currently played in NBPL trio comps though

#

he is a good character there

#

his cube can trade with viper ult and he also generates survivability against inor

#

viper and inor are currently the biggest concerns in trios, and hadi can deal with both

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so if anyone tells you that hadi is a bad character in trios, they are probably uninformed

#

people tend to overreact to nerfs

#

hadi went from being SSS+ to A tier in trios

#

he is still better than a lot of other characters

chrome cliff
#

we have hadis in pretty much every game

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in solos i understand though

pine creek
pine creek
pine creek
loud abyss
#

I dealt with a hadi player not too long ago in solos

chrome cliff
#

if you know what to do at any time because you've observed enemies and teammates, you can pick up a new character within a few days

#

only some characters have a really high skill ceiling

#

for example, it's very difficult to play viper, feria, monk, takeda and kurumi well, even though it's easy to figure out the basics

#

justina too i'd say

#

these characters are either very unique or constantly targeted by every enemy, or both

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i'm not including characters that aren't played in trios here

#

this list isn't complete, just sharing what came to mind

vapid coral
#

Hello, I be seeing Justina players dash multiple times when there up against a lot of players.

What I want to know is how are they doing it so fast. Everytime I do it, it’s so slow. Like what are they pressing to do it so quick?

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Hopefully someone can help me

jovial ocean
#

Coming back to the game after a long break, what’s the best upgrades to spend the glyph points on?

frigid pagoda
#

any glyphs for solo player viper ning and zai? I'm newbie.

snow coyote
frosty apex
#

Sup guys! Back to the game after 2 years, any tips on Takeda Glyphs?

wet galleon
#

x

pine creek
#

Guys isn't is a bit unfair how you can't escape Inor's ult at all once he catches you? or am I doing something wrong?

finite burrow
kind ginkgo
#

In what kind of place is the fight happening?

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Structures? Open terrain?

ocean jewel
#

What glyphs should I use for inor

pine creek
# kind ginkgo Depends, who are you playing?

I usually play Temulch, and it was mostly in an open area, there are trees, but sometimes I'm fighting his Duo and suddenly I find myself trapped in a loop of stuns unable to break free at all, I find it annoying

kind ginkgo
crisp flame
#

hey hope y'all doing well, I started playing Takeda and I'm not sure what skills I should run I'm currently using F3V1 or F3V2 Solo/Duo/trio but I'm still not sure

little cargo
#

V2 for Takeda is considered as the biggest noob bait due to flashy yet useless compare to his other V

crisp flame
#

oh okay nice thats gtk thank ya

wet galleon
#

x

olive sun
ocean jewel
#

Which version of inors skill and ult is better

livid abyss
ocean jewel
#

Wow thanks

little cargo
ocean jewel
acoustic swan
#

when is the new character releasing?

olive sun
#

in like, 8-9 hours

acoustic swan
#

damn, ok

wet galleon
#

go

novel night
#

For Matari, what is the best setup for glyphs, ability, and Ult? I mostly play duos and trios.

I've been trying to save her ult for scenarios when I have to escape (like wuchen teleport for reset), rather than to do damage, but I feel like I'm missing lots of value and don't get to use it often. For her ability, I'm using the double blink one right now, but I don't feel like it adds too much to the gameplay for me.

Any help would be nice 🙂

little cargo
# novel night For Matari, what is the best setup for glyphs, ability, and Ult? I mostly play d...

Most character can make use of the default glyphs. As for Matari, you said you are playing mostly duos and trios, you might want to bring V1 to counter Viper's V, you are using her F1 which usually not helping in team mode, F1 is usually used in combination with her V in solo to extend comes mostly, F2 can be charged to knock back enemies and save your teammates when they got jumped.
These comes from my experience, at the same time I have not played Matari for a while so I might be a bit misinformed, some other might provided better insight than me but I hope this help.

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Oh nvm, check pins Matari_Pepe_Laugh

wet galleon
#

hmm

tall edge
#

I think xuhuan’s F1 great for escape upwards. I can’t seem to land the attack consistently after the enemy head bonk though. Any ideas how to hit the enemy better with the F after the head bonk?

mild aurora
#

.

icy echo
#

cool char btw Kylin_hearty

little cargo
brazen sequoia
#

I’m a newbie started today, what character is op or what’s meta?

rocky dove
#

Meta rn is inor

#

But if you want basics start with viper zai or kylin

little cargo
# brazen sequoia I’m a newbie started today, what character is op or what’s meta?

Picking a meta character and meta weapon will not really help you when you are just started. You will get filled with bots a lot in the beginning, every weapon, every character will feel broken, but there will be a point you will match against good player who will make any weapon, any character seems useless. My advise is to have fun and find character, weapon that you enjoy playing instead of going for the meta choice

brazen sequoia
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Awesome thanks man

little cargo
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When you get a feeling for the game, wanna learn more about the gameplay, mechanic, feel free to ask here. For now just have fun

brazen sequoia
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Great game so far, enjoying it

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Doing lots of solos and duos to level up

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Sound about right?

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Or what type of game mode to start with

rocky dove
brazen sequoia
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Yeah sounds good!

ocean jewel
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What’s the best glyph setup for inor

median quiver
feral fern
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F1+V2

plush fern
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Anyone knows what "Alliance" is for during games?

olive sun
# plush fern Anyone knows what "Alliance" is for during games?

''In Quick Match and Ranked Mode (below the Asura rank), when teammates leave the battle early in a multi-player team, the last remaining player may use the "Alliance" tag in the Bag page to join forces with other players. If the requirements are met, the player initiating the Alliance will form a new team with other players for that match.''

kind ginkgo
glossy ore
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glyphs for xunhuan?

acoustic swan
kind ginkgo
vernal wigeon
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Any good builds for Yoto Hime??

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Mainly solo at this point

shut marsh
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any good yoto hime glyphs ??

vernal wigeon
lament river
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Hey, can anyone share with Inor Wan glyph?

kind ginkgo
empty swallow
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ive sent it like 20 times

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would be good if this was pinned

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this is overall good advice

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and this is what i use

kind ginkgo
distant pelican
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pinned Kylin_hearty

rapid pond
kind ginkgo
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Ty Kylin_hearty

plucky quiver
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ngl

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new hero is mid asf

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his combo break being on ult is so dumb

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cuz his ult isnt even that good

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compared to akos ult its nothing for solos

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and compared to other trio ults, his ult is also nothing

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can be combo broke off

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tanked with ult activation gold frames

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tanked with any gold frame rly

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stoppable by walls

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so like???

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compare that to any other ult

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and u realize how bad it is

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naraka did new hero dirty

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if viper silences him mid charging

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he is as good as mince meat

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cuz he cant cancel charging