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He is. And I quote, āIām afraid Azzie may kill me in real lifeā 
It was⦠tongue in cheek
@misty sinew please tell Plop he is dead to me until he edits his post in state discord
And he still hasn't changed it 
Soooo. Special dispensation to light him on fire right?

Yes
I hope you face us during WK
Come come
I don't. Y'all would kill us
But you could hurt plop and that is worth it
Also we are nice
Most of us at least
I mean the chance to catch chain with his bubble down during Valiant might be worth it
Iām super nice!š„°
That is entirely possible
Or also plop tbh
True
Just send a bunch of shooters at him
What state are you in?š¬
Why?
Ok. Never mind then.š
Anyway.
Lol
I hope it happens and we face you in WK before you come visit B.L
We just took our first state in months last WK so who knows
Sheās coming to BL?šæ
Nice
Aoi is where the partyās at š¾š¬
The wind is being pretty rude
You can talk to the wind??!?
I'm hoping we get a bit more active. Weeks of NAP get boring after a while
I lost 54 mš.
I started at 860m
I only lost 11 which is way more than usual for me because I donāt solo hit anyone huge. But I got it back. Someone didnāt super rally so I got pretty messed up.
But kept my infirmary pretty empty
So probably like dead dead it was like 10m on top of that
But I healed during so I forgot to check
I had a bunch of speedups so I filled infirmary with t1s, deep with t11s, cleared regular infirmary and filled halfway with t11s
I'm back up past where I started because of showdown
I think at max my infirmary was probably 60% filled
I filled my regular towards the end
Nice. I am also. And plus side is I made pea mad because I got to 700m first, and that was with having to retrain what I lost lol
Wasn't paying attention cuz I was at a concert
I am trying to work
Nobody is stopping you, slowpoke
You're distracting me
Howā¦
By tagging me
So in other words tag you more
-_-
I did no such thing
You were telling people to distract you by tagging you⦠at least thatās how I interpreted it. š¤£š¤£
That is the exact opposite of what I meant
Anyone have an example pic of how the sanctuaries should be spaced a tile apart in the mud for WK (a real pic not a diagram)? šš» š
The pins will have the best source of layouts.
there wont be a real pic since its depends on the tiles on the mud too.
Rather than cramming the wasteland a layout like this works the best. Takes half the hqs to fill the mud and leaves no room to park in between.
I love it when people fill wasteland
ā¦and when they forget about their bubbles and they pop ⦠you just see em get roasted š±
Ours are pretty good about bubbling but we did have one forget last time. Sigh.
How I make all my points
I sat and waited until the last 5 minutes last time. Shields dropped. Hit all of them lol
Thanks so much!!!
Can I know when the prize of wk is due date to claim?
You get 24 hours to claim it from start to finish
Ok thank beauty
Thatās always nice. The issue I have is that everyone is so worried about the mud that they donāt think about leaving camps in their place⦠now the muds all covered but there are a ton of open spots in the grass where enemies can park.
If my state loses the hub...do we still get the 300% training boost if we kill our troops in another states turrets?
My state is planning on losing Wasteland to go down a tier. Everyone is worried about how the 300% training bonus works
If you check the pinned messages, there is a graphic created by one of our mods that explains everything
Ok..I will look
I looked and showed
But
They all insist the fast comeback is not automatic
Does the winner of the hub have to turn this on...
Then let them be wrong š¤·āāļø
You can only train people who want to learn. Otherwise you are just wasting your own time š¤£
Youāll be able to lol. If they insist theyāre right then let them look like fools ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
any news about WC? any changes?
u know something?
oh wrong channle
Have a question in regards to the fast comeback boost⦠just noticed the fine print. ā120% of might depleted via Zenith Tech Hub battle casualties (excluding casualties caused by turret attacks)ā. When they say caused by turret attacks, do they mean when another alliance is holding a turret and the missile hits the turret, or do they mean when a player sends a march at the turret?
The losses from the turret hits themselves don't count. So when the turret fires on the hub those losses don't count towards fast comeback
Thank you for the clarification. Like most states if we try to make a deal we usually say turret hits are fine.. wanted to make sure that was the best way of handling it.
What is the best way to set up the turret?
Depends on the state - some do one troop type for each tower - some do mixed and some will have nap towers and one free for all.
Have a look at the state bigs that are participating and sort of gauge it from there
Does anyone know the coords in the turf where the port in boundary ends? Covering the green is only as effective as your coverage and without knowing the edge we canāt stop porting in
Never heard of this before..
Iām not sure I understand your question. You would have to go to every side of the map and completely cover it with camps every 4 squares to stop porting in, period.
People direct relocate for WK. Meaning they choose their spot, itās not random.
Yes I am aware - but there is a limit as to where they are allowed to port to, do we know what that coords line is?
And itās not that hard when you have most of your hives around the Hub and all farms have min 4 marches to cover gaps.
You said boundary though. That would be the entire map. They can port in anywhere on the map at all. As long as there are 4 empty tiles.
Thatās why I said you would have to cover the whole map, end to end
I coulda sworn ages ago there was a limit to where on the map they could port to. Not for valiant obviously, but for wasteland
I have never tested this because it would be stupid to be in the far corner and send a march at the Hub
It would. But you can go anywhere.
Hrrmm. Ok.
Can you please post this in #š¦bug-hunt and without the chat ss please. Thanks!
Will do
Do you get fast comeback and/or state boosts if you lose the hub during wk?
If you lose hub fast comeback automatically starts and there won't be state boosts, no titles, and no Governor's Award boxes
For other information please look at the pins. š
There is a great chart posted in #š®video-showcase
If your state becomes a slave state, in two weeks are you matched against the same state that took you over?
It isnt called a slave state, and typically if you lose your hub you wont face the same opponents again
I AM PISSED TO NO END! My state was matched with State 215 last SvS and they have 2 strong 40s while my state has none...We were slaughtered. And today we were yet again matched with 215 and are being wiped out yet again. We still don't have any 40s and their 2 40s are even stronger. NEVER MATCH STATES WITHOUT 40S WITH THOSE WITH 40S. BTW not one word about rallies...THEY DON'T WORK!!! š” š” š”
That's just the way the matchup happens. My state is matched with a state with like 6 40s. Our biggest player is 39
Why are you double posting
Twice as upset
Probably
I hate when the matchups do that unfortunately there's not much that can be done about it if you're in the same league
Because getting up at 0445 hrs to deal with this shyt is fracking wrong!!!
Then lose WK a few times to go down in points. You matched based on points. If your state canāt compete and relies on NAP to be where you are, then maybe your state needs to be lower in rank. Not every state likes to NAP every weekend, it gets dull.
We're currently getting slushied so I totally get it
So give up on everything immediately to avoid 40s because my alliance and state try hard...utterly stupid advice.
Itās not the end of the world to lose. States do it all the time for that reason and you are saying yourself your state canāt compete. But also, #šsanctuary-rules if you donāt like, you donāt need to be rude
We're currently stacking our turrets with t1's just so that they can't get any points sometimes you just have to lose
It sucks unfortunately
Weāve all done it
I have a Masters Degree in Air Warfare and History, USAF Officer. So I have forgotten more about strategy and tactics than you will ever know. When I speak it is backed with 20 years of experience and I am not being rude, just accurate!
This is a mobile game.
Ahh the "Run home to Mama response"...lmao
Not at all? Just saying maybe those of us who have a lot experience at the game do know what we are talking about. Your background is great, it doesnāt mean we donāt know what we are doing.
There are pretty game-specific strategies that you probably wouldnāt do in real life. Stacking with T1s when youāre struggling is one of them because T1s donāt give points to the other state.
I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces.
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I donāt know what any of this has to do with pns lol
Triple upset. Also posted in suggestions
How long do you get to pick a gov after winning
If gov'ship is handed to wrong person, can it be corrected? for some reason it didn't go to the r5.
No
No it can't
2 hours I think
Thank you
Cracks me up because I think we have at least 3 40s that have now visited my state maybe four. We're not complaining about it
War happens
Think thatās considered spam
I think he stopped talking
I think he stopped complaining
Maybe he was onto something though. Matching based on HQ levels...be states full of nothing higher than hq21s lol
Sounds like a snoozefest
But it would be "fair"
War is always fair
2 hours
No, once assigned it cannot be undone.
I'm diamond in Apex, soooo...
Pretty sure war is never fair.
You didn't use the sarcasm font!!
There's a font?
Not that I know of lol
Just felt stupid and was pushing the blame on Azzie
I think its the alternating caps lock
I've gotten them for $0.99 before. Guess I'm a lot weaker than you š
Too late Hillside šš
I saw that
Got that one today
Normally I get the 99 dollar one
Y'all making me feel bad. Like I need to get a lot bigger.
You get those when you fail at attacking. Those are consolation prizes š¤£
Or get hit really hard. Those I get every ResWar.
No. I won and got it
I have gotten them when failing to defend also š
I hit someone for 17m vs my 1m. And just got that
Win? What is that? Lol
Usually I get it my first hit in VC
First hit? I usually only get hit once and then come here for the rest of the day
Iām not small. I made 600m+ rss last VC.
Nice.
Dry state now and they gave us again
I figured you were significantly bigger than me.
Kazumi plays in the same Nuka I do
Far away from gerber
I mean, with a few upgrades I could also be in that bracket but would have to hide out by the level 1 mines
You can handle 3s
My 40s keep resetting their hub every hour lol
Lol
Are you in my state?
It's where all the newly minted 35s and 36s like to flex
But you wonāt make a rank on 1s
Ahhhhhh. Ego problem
We keep getting reset to keep the battle going. Got 2 40s hanging out in our mud - was 3 earlier
Still want to feel strong even though they are the small fish
I see it was ichi vs no1 vs cyra
That had to be interesting
I bet that was interesting
I imagine he is still upset
Rambling incoherently about air tactics
At the beginning our 40 stated he didnāt like the ānapā since there were no tower hits or something like that. So he hit their towers. Then nothing for 7 hours until they reset our hub 5 min before over
This time. Not same mistake
Sounds like they were begging to have a long day
Why are they dense. Let me guess. The first time it happened they reset your hub and you reset theirs before 8 hours?
Did they think they were going to get away with it?
They started gloating ālooke what we didāā we know how to handle 40sā. Nothing since we cleaned their state on VC. Or now since 3 40s are sitting there
We never hit their hub. So at the end of 8 hours they reset ours and kept thereās secure
I thought he was complaining about being matched against 40s though
This was last time. They werenāt upset then
He was, they got matched against again
Well he made it sound like he was upset then
I mean this time yes. They will be upset.
So they didn't lose their hub last time and he's mad because he got matched with you guys again and this time you're giving them a taste of Their Own medicine?
Rewriting history to make his point
Hey! Be nice
That is nice
Yeah. We donāt forget
There were much worse ones
Makes a lot of sense now
I still find it funny.
I've been on the wrong end of a super long WK before. No sympathy here
I used to like it but all the drama that went on in our prior state ruined it for me. The constant crying about not getting points, and then about how hard the sign up was and it was just never ending whining.
Lol
Sign up?
Y'all don't do in state sign ups for wk?
No
We started to sign up so they could best optimize everyone
First come first serve. Then rotate after points
Ahhhh. I think that would just be chaos
The crying started about 15 secs after WK started. Wasted diamonds, didn't get in, then it was a constant barrage about wanting their points and how they wasted their time even showing up. It got so old
The sign up was to help schedule when people needed to be there. It didn't really make it any better
I complained before because our 40 was always late to his tower. Then had to make room for him
Yep but I heard it when she was sleeping
Swift and me would dm each other to stay sane
That's understandable though. Should of been on time
Are you all on same state?
Same alliance, even lol
Oh boy
It did actually help a lot once we used it. People still didn't entirely listen all the time but it got far less worse. Less whining. That was part of why our uninvited guests pissed me off. They were trying to upend something that had just started to work out.
They were the saviors we never knew we needed
And our current state has none of that. Strike team and defense all in one alliance and they tell everyone except a few R4s and strike team to stay quiet in chat the first 20 minutes
It's worked out well
I feel too smol
Players your size have joined
Especially strike team, I mean all I ever really do is reinforce.
You should. It's fun.
I'm too smol
Then I am miniscule
I already told you the game lies
I have a question. Do we still get the WK rewards if we are listed on top 50 and we quit the current alliance before WK ends?
The idea of strike teams are appealing
Top 50 alliance?
For which one? Kills? Casualties? Occupational? Yes you will still get rewards for those
Great!! Thank you for the information
Here's me, eating my pizza, reading the drama after all three states completed in exactly 8 hours. Boring. Now we're debating resetting our own hub if it happens again so everyone that wants occupation can get it.
That's is up to you and your state.
If youre expecting everyone to stick around for another 8 hours just to make sure you still end up winning your state and the other states to adhere to the NAP after securing their hubs just so that players can get occupations points... vs securing your hub, governors awards and states boosts for the next two weeks... then have fun with it.
Otherwise, its better to switch players out once other players have their occupation points or reduce the number of troops players send so that more players can get in.
No point debating the pros and cons here - we just happened to have a situation where we could have done this. WK start is at a bad time for many, so didn't have time.
Well, you made the comment on a public server. So, a reply was bound to happen. I just stated what can happen if you did choose to do that.
Well for many couple new debatable. Since majority are from Asian counties. So itās perfect evening time
I greatly appreciate all my asian friends in game. One of the reasons I play is making more friends across the globe.
Dittoo!
Question if we attack folks in the same state but different alliance will we get points?
No. It clearly states on the how to earn kill points that it has to be foreign units.
Foreign units couldn't that also mean different alliance?
No. Since youāre against foreign states.
Players can get their casualties points by attacking any of the hub and turrets. Since that is based on permanent might loss. So their troops need to die and not go to the infirmary.
Itās why most NAP terms include sending small marches to turrets. Itās to get those casualty points
āāā
But if you want kill points it needs to be foreign troops.
I have a question. I was in the mud for our state and I was shielded and just farming resources. I kept getting attacked and towards the end I had a lot of units killed. I get that they are gone. I thought wounded would just go back after WK ended. But Iām still in the dreaded deep healing for a ton of troops. Werenāt they supposed to be restored after the game? And nothing is in the alliance infirmary. Just a little confused.
No, they only get restored after valiant, rw and clash war.
During WK, if they get attacked some will go in the infirmary, and deep healing center and some will die.
Ah okay-thanks!
Does fast come back activate if a governor is not appointed after the 2hr deadline to appoint one?
If the gov isn't appointed by the R5 of the winning alliance, game will appoint one for that state.
Thanks for the info @brave pier
Honestly, you guys rolled over early into the match. I personally reset your hub and towers a few times by myself, and Iām not that big. Your anger should be at the lack of cooperation of your state, not mine.
Question: only governor can assign reward boxes to participants? Or aide can do so? If it is, how?
Boxes are Governor assigned only.
Dear MOD, so sorry to bother, but do you know when does the Wasteland King trophy result updates? The trophy that decide your rankings (gold,platinum,diamond) Thank you <@&742285797725569104>
They're usually updated after the event ends.
Theres a chart pinned in this channel to help calculate if you recall how many trophies you had before and what the end result was of your WK
(...and as a side note: there's no need to tag @mod for questions such as these. mostly for discord emergencies and some game emergencies)
Thank you, understood
Did anyone experience shield drop before expiration during this last event?
Weāre you in the mud?
It was one of my players and yes. He was. And he is a stickler of perfection. I would bet my life that he put up proper shield
I know it happens cause I had ine drop on me once during the event. So I know it happens. And this player is so dedicated but seems to get crap luck. After one of the upgrades. All of a sudden he could no longer do the same level lairs that he used to. Dropped like two levels. I almost think his account is cursed
Can you explain more or point me in direction of finding more info on this
My bad, I gave you wrong information
Does anyone know what is used to specifically calculate the 300% fast comeback training time?
So attacking a turret or the hub, or being attacked while occupying a turret or the hub, unless the attacks on the hub come from turret fire.
I get what counts toward the fast comeback might numbers. I was wondering about the actual training time reduction. This part does not seem to add up
Because it's off your base training time
Thanks. The numbers still seem to be ambiguous
So question if your home state is bubbled due to taking another state. Does that bubble stay as long as you have the enemy state or does it have a timer?
The bubble on your hub will stay as long as you continue to hold the enemy hub. No timer.
The only one that has a timer is taking your hub back. You get a 30min bubble.
Thank you
What are the negatives of another state taking over your state during WK?
No titles. No boosts.
And the abyss taxes go to the state that took yours
I boycotted transferring when our state was taken lol
So if your state is taken do you drop down in rank?
Sometimes. Depends on your trophyās
Do tell 
Check the pinned messages for the breakdown
@waxen oracle
Thank you.
hello
does anyone know if you can leave your alliance and join another alliance for wasteland and NOT lose your rewards and standings for alliance showdown
?
Just as long as you come back to your alliance before showdown is over, you can still get your rewards and standings.
Just make sure you complete your current quest before leaving your alliance otherwise it will be considered a fail and you dont get the chance back.
You will be unable to do showdown while your in another alliance.
Thankyou so much for your help
What happened to showing since in morning I build more than 200 and i purchased unlock 430 but I didn't get reward open
Am reported in contact us but didn't reply me anything
@lapis cosmos @fading prairie @cinder patrol @brave pier
Did you build towards the monument
Yes
Your system message will tell you how many times you sent.
Or better yet. The in alliance ranks
And i unlock 430 but I didn't open that
And you personally have sent marches to it.
Yes madam š„
Try logging out and using the fix tool
If it doesnāt work. SS copies of your transactions. And the monument. That says how many stones you have. As well as your system messages saying how many times you have sent
And a ticket
Didn't working something showing to me unranked
@fresh prairie
Unranked
In Bottom the table
But in gift pack in Lev 10
Blue box
My transaction today
Then pace a ticket in
Try to solve it
Means
Place a ticket to CS
If you checked all the right areas. Sent marches to the monument.
Could take some time
Still build in troops
Building troops had nothing to do with this event
When you click on this how many times can you send marches
You have not sent any marches to the monument
You have 430 stones?
Weāre also in the wrong channel. So the mods might find us.
Any missing purchases go through CS. Be patient
Ok madam š
Good luck
To unlock what your alliance have reached you have to hit a certain personal point amount to unlock / access all the rewards too.
And please next time you have a question related new event or game, try to post it under #š„game-general. Thx =)
His alliance has. They are on level 10. Heās stuck on 1 š
He wasnāt using them right
From his ss, he never have once sent a stone to the Monument. That's why he's not collecting the rewards. To be able to unlock lv 2 he have to build 5 more times.
Yeah. We figured that out.
Q: sending T1s to ATK a Hub/Turret, do you get points?
What points are you looking to get? Casualties? Kills? Occupation? Points for fastcomeback?
For Casualties & Kills. Does killing your own T1s count towards Fast come back?
You will get casualties points for t1s (but you get points based on the amount of might killed, so it can take A LOT of t1s depending on your goals). You probably wont get any kill points unless your stats are high enough that they can actually kill any of the troops in the (often full) turrets.
Your fast comeback is an extension of the amount of might lost while attacking turrets/hubs (excluding any loss from turret shots on the hub).
Ahhh gotcha for some reason I thought T1s doesn't give points fullstop
appreciate your help 
T1s wont give Kill Points to those in the turrets. That is why some people use them. To prevent others from gaining anything while you still get points.


Good to see you Azzie 
You too Mamma 
Hello. I am talking for server 544. We had two weeks ago the first zenith war. In a few hours are we going to have the first state vs state war? Or it's still a zenith within state.
If you go in event center and in upcoming you see wasteland king, you'll have your first svs. If not it will be the zenith war again. =)
Oki. Thank you for your reply
Why does wasteland King have to be so often? Like can't it be once a month so people can recover?
Your want 1 gov for a month?
1 VC?
No thank you that sounds no funš
Yes
The good thing about wk. is you donāt have to participate if you donāt want to. So you can do it once a month
Or sleep through every one like I do and get points later if there's a full nap𤣠š
I just woke up
Lol
I usually try to find the people in the mud that let their bubbles drop. Otherwise I haven't done a WK in a very long time.
I've been up since a little after it started š
I usually always work until@an hour after it starts
But donāt worry. I always on time lol
I consistently get stuck in a turret
Me too. But I woke up. Not in one lol
Right now I just have a guy sending t4s at like 6,000 a pop
What happened?
I'm only getting marches of 2k t4s at my turret
Why do we even have riders in the game at this point
I'm just trying to get my frame but this scary rider main won't let me
Not all riders are scary. I'm fluffy.
Hey! I'm a rider
You both should be ashamed for the torture you bring upon fighters
Fighters are my secondary
With how often I kill them, I'm inclined to agree about the torture
Can someone explain me the taxes system when my own state got occupied by another one? When and for what i have to pay taxes?
It's the abyss taxes
30% for hq hits and then whatever your trade post is at
Hmmm...sounds fun. 𤣠š
𤣠𤣠š³
Ok and for what? Just for gathering and attacking HQs?
Transferring rss and attacking hqs
Not for gathering ressources?
No not gathering. When states taken I go on a transfer boycott
So if nobody would transfer Ressources and nobody would attack someone they get nothing? š
When we won our wasteland how fast comeback is being activated? Automatically at some point or manually by governor?
If you won, governor has to manually activate it. See the chart in #š®video-showcase
Yep pretty muchš š¤£. There's also the option transferring 1 at a time I your desperate enough š
How long does the R5 have to assign Governor before it auto assigns?
2 hours I believe it is
2 hours.
Thank you
Hello everyone, i need some help. We secured our Hub and my friend appointed himself as Gov as it was agreed by the state, but for some weird reason, the Gov title went to someone else, a farm.
How can we fix that?
Wait til next wk
That farm can't transfer the Gov title?
Nope. Stuck with it for two weeks
@fresh prairie in our state if you want to be Nap you help with WK but we fight with other states and they try to restart us and we try to restart them it's a fight for 24 hours so it's not fun ever 2 weeks to lose half your troops or more because of this and not only that, but it's on top of Ace showdown brake loose so by the time wasting can starts. You have no resources and no speedups
Sounds like your state needs a new strategy imo. There is no need to fight for 24 hrs every 2 weeks. That is insanity.
We send t1s when it gets to that point and go back to sleep
If we turn on the 300% boost now, will it still add to the might limit for our members that are still fighting turrets?
yes
I have troops in deep healing for the first time in probably about a year.
Sounds like a bad state lol
Actually I love it. I moved here from a state that was invaded but since they changed the migration rule the state's great
I didnāt know you even had infirmaries. Lol
I have never skipped a single WK, ever
Ah. I lied. I skipped one. But I sat on the blacktop. And that was to keep my alliance protected but we were done with that state.
I always lose troops. Itās pea who doesnāt like to. Not me.
I have skipped every WK for I don't know how long. Too much whining in my old state soured me on the event.
I have question, if no one occupies the hub, from either in state or out of state, who does it default too?
Lol Ala I was just coming to ask
Lol I went to 2 different servers looking for answers
No one has ever admitted to it happening to share the results. Typically, someone ends up marching. Often, someone will create a burner character to do just that š¤£
Well so far no one has entered hub in this state so we'll keep you posted lol
Please do. Last WK one of our opponents definitely wanted to lose their hub. Neither of the other states wanted that (were both ok with holding or losing our own).
I spent hours watching burner accounts get created to march on the hub. And the continuous efforts to prevent that by burning those accounts and trying everything possible to prevent it from happening. It was kinda awesome. Lol
Well only got about 9hrs left of wk, so afterwards I will pm results to you
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How can I get my state to be in that global coalition nap thing. Tired of being in a get picked on state but I'm super loyal to my alliance
Global nap?
Each wk. we make negotiations.
It's some global coalition thing
Most agree. Some donāt
No the state that is messing with our hub said they can't attack other state due to the global coalition
I always assumed that was some myth rarely here about it
The last 2 wasteland my state has faced has got picked on because of ut
Yeah I heard something knew. Yeah there is a coalition. Not sure how to get in
It's something so rarely talked about. So details probably definitely protected a bit lol
Ugh it's making me want to quit this game
It happens though your gonna get your state taken and your gonna face losing your hub
The other state has got nap because of it
Everyone has a play system I just boycott transferring if states taken
Not much help able to be given with these situations especially that thing your looking for
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I want to join the nap coalition now too lol
Lol
⦠I just want a nap š“ after WK, everyone deserves a nap.
Wk still going
Yes the naps with fuzzy blankets and comfy pillowsš¤£
Is it the Japanese Guild?
So I know matchups are based on the grade your state is in⦠but is there any additional criteria within the grade, or is it just completely random luck?
Matchups are typically based on closest trophy score. Beyond that, nothing that has ever been stated or confirmed (a lot of rumours that are 99% certainly wrong).
Ah okay. Last couple matchups we have got have been excruciating. Took a state a month ago, stayed the same grade but have been getting a lot more action than usual. Thanks lol
Sometimes you catch states on upswings, sometimes you get states trying to work their way down rankings.
Sometimes states are less organized for whatever reasons, and sometimes they are particularly motivated.
We get the ones that donāt want to take our hub but keep resetting it so they can attack alllllllllll day. I donāt mind a good battle but we all gotta sleep eventually š¤£
Oh, Iāve been that state. My opinion of those days wont make you like me more š¤£
Haha I donāt believe you. I like almost everyone. Just ask Gerber 𤣠but staying on topic, i appreciate the info. The game info page and the pinned posts here that I have seen mention the grade but nothing further. Thought it wouldnāt hurt for more clarification.
Glad I could clarify your question about matching.
I will say, from one persepective of the states dragging things out, it provides more opportunities for a greater portion of the state to fully engage in WK when their schedules allow (not everyone is able or willing at the start time). In addition to giving a chance for more players and alliances to have somewhere to play and earn their rewards, it was a way my old state tried to balance styles of play. The majority of players strongly wanted a full NAP state, but that didnāt attract the strongest players to be able to defend the state during SvS events and to deal with rogue issues. So the counter proposal was to offer WK as a time to burn things and encouraged some stronger agressive players to join us and not get frustrated at the lack of action the rest of the time.
That was exactly the issue that lead to taking a state. Some people (myself, included) were starting to get bored with the same old nap. Personally, I felt that if Iām waking up at 4am to do the event, I want to actually do the event as it was intended from time to time. Just not for a full 24 hours š¤£
No arguments there š¤£
I am glad we had a NAP this week, but when I was asked by the incoming governor about what I thought of the deal, I gave my honest feedback about my thoughts on only being able to send limited quantities of low level troops, without heroes, to only certain turrets etc.
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I despise being in the hub for naps⦠no points other than occupation
Yeah, I can definitely understand the boredom and frustration in that position. I do remember when my last state came across a WK opponent with the same mentality we did, but with 3 or 4 times the top might that we did. There were some awkward conversations after that WK š¤£
Troops are meant to be killed. Plus they eat too much and get lazy with all the naps they take⦠I ever see you in wk, I will sacrifice some troops to your turret/hub š„³
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Does anyone know if you get casualty points if you get attacked on a tile in the mud?
Answered in the other channel š
How is the winner of the hub determined if nobody holds for 8 consecutive hours
Alliance that has been holding i for the longest
So if there are 2 alliances it doesnāt count
With my alliance and our ally we have the longest hold
But the opposing state has 10 hrs over all
I don't believe so, no. If someone else has been holding it for more time than either of the two, they win
Then they win
Ty!
If it's the same alliance from the opposing state that had been holding it
Yes
Trophy changes when you have successfully defended your state's Zenith Tech Hub but didn't occupy any foreign Zenith Tech Hubs:
GOLD: 200 -> -100
PLATINUM: 0 -> -200
DIAMOND: -150 -> -300
LEGEND: 0 -> -400
Trophy deduction when your state's Zenith Tech Hub is occupied by invaders:
GOLD: -150 -> -250
PLATINUM: -200 -> -300
DIAMOND: -300 -> -400
LEGEND: -300 -> -500
So Wasteland King is going to be a nightmare week after week now?
Why is 300% boost active when event isnt even finished what we lose now doesnt get added to the boost like it should be
Because your governor started it if you guys kept your hub.
Any losses will be added to the total. Our governor started Fast Comeback at Reset. I killed a bunch more cars after that and my total went up.
in future itās best to either ask people not to leave the hosting alliance before the governor is appointed, or to wait until the rush of people leaving has ended.
i believe people leaving the alliance automatically updates the list of members in the code - even though itās not immediately visible if viewing the member list at the time - which causes the list youāre looking at to be prone to glitching as itās accounting for lines in the code that no longer exist
Need clarification. The documents here say the state who occupies with longest time (if none has 8 hours), but game says alliance. Is it all alliances in a state added together for total or is it based on longest holding alliance?
See no. 2.
Itās longest occupation time period. Occupation time is calculated on the length of time each alliance spends in the hub. So itās definitely just the alliance, not combining alliances from the same state, otherwise the occupation times for those alliances would combine under a singular occupation time period for the state when looking at the occupation list
That is what i thought, but the wording says "state" on many informational sheets here and we has arguments happening, so wanted to clarify
Can anyone explain the governor spot and how to obtain it. My state has the HUB and i'm in the alliance that secured the HUB, but it doesn't have a governor selected or give anyone options to do anything?
The r5 has to give out the title
The R5 of the hosting alliance has to appoint a governor. They get 2 hours from the end of the event to do it. Or from when you win your hub
Didn't give an option to do so
and I was promoted to R5 as well as the previous R5 leadership before I was given it
If you switched R5 during that time period the game sometimes glitches. It should Auto appoint the R5 If nobody picks. But changing who that is can cause problems sometimes.
You guys won your state?
Yes. 196. We tried setting it before the R5 swap and then when it wasn't giving the option to select governor we swapped then it after the swap for about 10 minutes nothing and then it auto selected the previous R5 . . . š
Oh then itās done
Once it selects the gov you're kinda stuck.
this is going to make lots of people not want to participate at all again, and maybe even quit the game
It does get added
Why? WK used to actually require fighting. Then they changed the system and gave us grades and everyone started gaming it by losing on purpose etc. So now the fighting will actually come back. A LOT of people have been bored with WK because they reach platinum and thatās it. Itās boring. And for legend itās worse because itās just the same states all the time.
I think it will make it better for some of us who can't compete at the higher tiers.
My opinion is that troops are replaceable. Theyāre meant to be lost. Itās paper might, our troops. People are so precious about them. We get a lot of speed ups just for doing phases of events, donāt even have to finish. And we can stock up daily on 99 hour speed ups.
i remember when my state first took another states hub and thought we were the shit
Me too. It was a loooooong battle but it was a bonding experience lol
You used to have to really try hard back then lol
then we got fād in the ass by nowhere for 8hrs the next wk
We know we can't hold out against multiple stacked 40s. So we fight when we can and hope they don't reset our hub 3 times
But I like the fighting.
Ah that only happened once but yeah you never knew what was happening next weekend. Never knew where you stood.
I like the transparency but I donāt like that itās encouraged complacency
yeah you gotta know when to call it a day
always go in with an idea of how much youāre willing to lose
Yeah by the end of yesterday we were throwing t1's in the turrets
They had no intention of taking our state
Weā¦May have reset two states like 5 times yesterday
so was my state
yep same lol
The one of the 40s was nice enough to let me kill a bunch of his troops on a tile so I could get all my points
i got most of my kill pts early just after getting my occupancy pts
I got beat out of my turret early on
before the first changes to wasteland it got to be very expensive to participate and the rewards are not good enough and people were wanting to quit then
Then the current system at least made them not quit
Now it goes back to the bad old system where only big spenders can afford to play
So it is pay to win again and people will leave
found 2 popped shields on the blacktop back to back and ported straight into the other state before iād pulled my march from the turret lol
events are optional š¤·āāļø
I donāt see how. We have a lot of f2p who participate. Itās not about spending. Itās about what you prioritize. If you donāt care about or like WK, you wonāt participate. If you care about and like it, you will still go and have fun and it will work out.
donāt fight with what you arenāt willing to lose
Every state is going to be moving. It just means you'll have good WK and tough ones. Gives people a chance to play and others a chance to sit back
I care about WK so I prepare for it. I think of what to expect and I get ready. Thatās what ACE is for, in my mind. Itās prep week.
We have a bunch of F2P players
thisssssss. iāve never missed a WK since i was big enough to participate. thereās been a number of times weāve had WK and i was still trying to recover what i lost in the WK 2 weeks before
People who see WK as just another event and a way to get points are going to be mad. People who like WK and see it as a core event that promotes state bonding and gives them the chance to fight and be aggressive and meet new people and not just a āI got my points Iām done see yaā kind of thing, probably wonāt mind as much.
now i set myself a hard limit of what i am willing to lose (based on speedups im holding, and speedups i can get from potential rewards) and stick to that
I've still got troops in deep heal
I usually do but I got left in a tower yesterday when I had to go offline and then someone weaker than I am super reined it. Sigh.
last night we had a newer player to the state blame the captain of the turret he was in for getting super rallied (and they sped in fast) and not kicking him (even though the captain only had time to kick 2 ppl) cuz now he had āa million troops in his infirmariesā
but he went to the other state to hit turrets for his casualty points before sending a march to occupy
and his march size was only 285k to boot
so not quite sure where the blame for the captain comes into play š
ouchhhhhh
iāve soloed turrets i wouldnāt have been able to otherwise because somebody saw my march incoming, panicked cuz the captain was offline, and supered over them
Always a poor choice
I lost way more than I would have even without being supered because of my own stats. I donāt understand why I wasnāt kicked from the tower with everyone else but oh well. I know the other person wanted to stay.
i somehow missed all the big hits cuz they would always manage to target a turret i wasnāt in at the time, or iād be interstate, or iād have moved to another turret based on who was marching on it and what they sent, and then a big hit would come to the turret i just left lol
so i was 1st for kills but 52nd for casualties š
my biggest loss during wk was hitting a tile to get the last of my pts for the frame š
Do you have to take the state to not get the deduction or just occupy it for any length of time?
If you plan on taking another state you need to occupy the hub for 8 consecutive hours or have most time in it
I mean for these changes. They donāt want us to nap, so it says occupy and not take.
Oh im sorry didnāt see the patch notes on that.
Can any Mods answer?
You occupy the state by taking it. Until you secure the hub, you are trying to occupy it
So unless you take over a State, you will get a deduction?
That is Stupid!
If that is it.
95% certain that is the case.
They just want you to battle to the end so you have to spend $$, resources, and more time.
Itās getting to the point that unless you are well off, you will never be truly successful in this game! Sad for many players that canāt afford to keep up!
But if you look at all the states now, it seems like 70-80% of them are actively trying to either stay at their ranking or drop down anyway because they want to avoid fighting and losing troops. So this change really just makes it happen faster and easier for the growing majority of people who seem to simply train troops for decorations
If you drop on purpose, then that puts the smallest states at a disadvantage. I know they are only about profit, as all businesses, it just seems a little wrong to me. Just saying. Oh well, we really have little control of what They do. Thanks for the info.
Strategy
When an alliance has multiple billion might players and you donāt, No Strategy in the world will make a difference.
And those that have 2 billion+, forget about it, NO chance!
Again, just trying to get the info. Thanks again and Happy Hunting everyone.
The strategy is to assess your opponent and know what you are and not willing to sacrafice for what is overall, very little gain by keeping your hub.
Lol. I just go for shinny things I donāt use š¤£š¤£
LoL.. thanks again Hillside. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
What people are trying to avoid is going up against pro gamer ichi who will drop millions $ into the games he plays and other players who are big spenders
Hillside already did and heās still alive. You just know when to fold. We have all come up against people we canāt beat. Use T1s and give them nothing
Dang, When I drop a $100, my wife is not too happy!!! millions???? Canāt even IMAGINE!!!!
LoL
I mean if you have enough money, spending it doesnāt become an issue š
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Yeah we know that but if u want to have fun then u avoid said people
If I had won that 1BIL in mega millions trust, I would not spend more than I already spend today in PNS. Hell, I would invest in the company. LMAO
I still have fun. Itās just dependent on your outlook.
I genuinely have fun hanging out with the other people in my state.
Depends on the āpeopleā.. lol
Iād love to face ichi again. It was a blast. And as much as Iāve been playing a long time, I donāt spend.
I do have fun, and frustration, and mad, and ā¦. LoL
When I find players who have clearly spent their way to get to where they are and have no clue what they are doing, those are the best ones to smash into and show them their money would have been better spent on lattes and french poodles š¤£š¤£
LoL
i would definitely buy shares in 37games lol but i would definitely spend more on the game too š
Like i say people try stay where they are for a reason so they might find alot of complaints with that part of the update lol
37games may make 16mil a month from PnS but promoters donāt come cheap š
Those are the best people rushed hqs are so fun and usually hold alot of rss to steal š
i love zeroing a march of t11s from a rushed 35 with t9s š
Think id just start my own game š ud have the money to fund it
i love my pns family though id definitely stick around lol
U dont have to quit šš just run ur own and play pns
with the amount of time i spend playing pns i wouldnt have the time for both š¤£š¤£
If i won the lottery id gain more time as i wouldnt be working š
So i could play same amount of time and run a company š
iād go stir crazy without work i take more than 3 days in a row off and i dunno what to do with myself
ur company would become ur work š
Hi is it possible to give the same person a rulers box and a loyalty box?
Not from my experience, you can only give one.
Thank you š¹
I forget which State it was, but we once ran into a State that didn't occupy their Zenith 4x in a row.
How are WK states paired? We have those in our state that would like to lose to rank lower and move down to get more manageable VC. But from what I remember in a prior state I was in, youāre paired with another state that scored the same as you so you could be facing a state that is older with higher HQās regardless. The largest HQ we have are a couple HQ35ās, but weāve seen states with multiple HQ35-37 the past two WKās. They donāt even bother to have mudfillers.
Yeah you seem to have it
Based on your state score. You can see what yours is by looking in the upcoming events, and reference the current sheet pinned here for guidance, but also note that the points are changing as per the newest update.
Just wait. All the nap states will be going down in rank
Cool we going down, I donāt think everyone is willing to lose troops
A question was brought up on scoring. Will personal points and state points also impact pairing? Are they independent or dependent to overall results on scoring.
This is the score that counts WK matches
Need more people in legend leagueā¦ā¦ almost always the same 9 so we always see each other
@stuck sequoia move to another state , maybe a weaker one
Nah i dont mind it but would be nice to have a few more states.
@stuck sequoia 180 has never taken a state I'm in 180 , we could have but ppl are scared of moving up
I love the legend rank. Great rewards with the frame and now comes with new char frags also
Mystate never will unfortunately
I'm kinda glad I only see you guys in Nuka
Every sunday at reset
Reset is the best time
Getting alot more busy thoā¦
Tsk tsk
Iāve been doing better in Nuka lately
For our first zenith war, are sanctuaries in the green protected? Similar to wasteland king? Or can they be attacked by other alliances?
In zenith war, it is all in state, so everything can still be attacked by in state players.
With the WK game change forcing people to attack hubs out of state, developers should have instituted the built in place holder like for Res war and Clash. Either they are not realizing the issue that twice as many people will be out of place or their goal is complete hub devastation with attackers getting closer kill advantage.
Though even when they can port to the edge of the green it still takes forever for them to get to your hub unless they're willing to use speed UPS. And if they're willing to use those most likely they don't care how far away they are.
To gerberās point the distance doesnāt really matter THAT much for bigs that want to hit your hub. They will use speeds to hit at a specific time or whenever they feel like it from practically anywhere on the map.
Itās a battle. You are meant to cover your gaps and be strategic.
Yes please fill the mud
We do a pretty good job of it and have had very few incidents of people having shields drop. People camp out and wait and get nothing for it and it makes me happy.
Lol. I forgot to renew shield on mini a couple of wk ago. First time Iāve ever maxed rewards from a sanctuary hit! Spent a couple weeks getting troops out of deep heal though.
For alliances that have a WK participation NAP, how do you determine adequate participation
What do you mean? We just rotate whoever comes. If you donāt get it. Wait.
There are states that base NAP off of participation in WK. If you donāt participate, you arenāt protected. So Iām wondering how people determine the participation level of an alliance. My old state had a method but itās a bit convoluted.
Oh yeah. Our old state was like this. There had to be like a minimum of 3-5 people
The state Iām in did this once. Itās kinda a pain but the split it up like brackets. 90-100 alliance members needed 20+ in the mud 70-99 needed at least 15 and so on
Since we're a full nap State ours just involves farming rights
hola donde dieron la placa de walking dead
Solo tienes que preguntar en un solo lugar. te conteste en el canal #šŖš¦espaƱol
Ours was based upon sign ups for grey, sign ups for tower/hub, and actually participating.
It wasnāt so much convoluted as a PITA.
Since it was always the same alliances participating, the NAP list is now semi-permanent. You can be removed for not having enough participants, and you can be added for actually participating, but no more worrying about bubbles popping while in the mud or anything.
Can I get confirmation on points...if we continue to occupy our own hub, will we continue to accumulate points and move up ranks?
Depends on what rank you're in
Platinum
I believe in platinum you will lose points if you only have yours.
That's been my understanding... until you get back down to silver
It's probably going to encourage more fighting in platinum
during WK, if other state attack our base - can they plunder our rss?
Yes, but first hit and you port out of the mud and then you cannot be hit
thank you
If they win. They donāt port if the attacker loses
Yes, but you also donāt get rss when you lose an attack either
If you lose your hub In diamond league and do not take a hub, do you lose both 400 trophies for failing to defend and 300 trophies for not capturing so 700 trophies in total?
Think it's just the 400
We do a point system and all alliance must submit screen shots 60 points total to get your alliance in nap. 5 points for actual fighters in WK 3 points for hqs in mud and 1 point for camps and this camps have to be strategically spread out so you canāt have 10 in a tight formation.
What if a governor activates 300% fast comeback boost after 7 days. can players in that state still train troops from casualty points obtained from zenith wasteland?
Where can I find details in terms of taxes to be paid if we lose WK?
It's the abyss taxes so the 30% hq hit fee and the transport tax you have on your sanctuary
Thanks! Is there a link / page which mentions this. Havenāt been able to find one ( maybe not looking in the right location )
I havent actually found any info for this. This was info handed down through players and that's how I know about
Appreciate your help š
It's in The Big Book of Unwritten Rules Vol 6.
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We do the math on it. Scout a target, hit them, see what you get of what was available. Thatās the only way people have found out.
Thanks! š
šany answer to this question?
It can be activated anytime within the governor term of 2 weeks
I'm trying to read the scoring but I'm a dumb. If we only keep our hub, and do not go to another hub, we will still lose points, right? As long as no one occupies it at all, it's +500? Or what.the.butt
Please be mindful of your language #šsanctuary-rules And it depends on your grade. If you do not occupy another hub besides your own for gold or higher, yes you will lose points (that is what it means by the āno hub occupiedā column; your own hub doesnāt count). The 1 hub occupied that the rules refer to means another stateās hub. So if you occupy 1 other state hub, you get 500 points.
Easier way to understand the points you gain or lose from hub occupation (thanks to Kato for the original idea)
All states have this. Or all states will eventually have this.
If your on a new state you may not have matured enough to have it yet.
Think you posted this in the wrong place
What happens if a hub is completely untouched for the entire WK event? Does the state rank down or points unchanged?
No one has ever actually admitted that it happened, so we donāt know š¬
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Would it be beneficial for states to agree to a nap in which they all occupy each others hub for a few minutes and then leave?
Why? And then not occupy your own hub at all?
I would think occupy means take. Donāt quote me
Occupy means take. Think of it as who occupies the hub for the 2 weeks between WK instead of being in it for a few minutes.
That's what is meant when they are referring to occupying hubs for the trophies
It definitely does. Occupy refers to the 8 hour consecutive hold or longest hold overall that results in the building coming under your allianceās control permanently for the duration between wk and the next one.
Iāve been playing this for over a year and a half. I have yet to ever see a 4-way wk. Totally makes sense that it would happen unless they made states wk-eligible in threes. Has anybody had 4-way wks more than once?
Not more than once, but we had it a couple of months ago. Iām sure there are people who have experienced it a couple of times.
Thatās probably the misunderstanding. We were debating in our alliance whether it means take or just occupy like in wasteland conquest, where you get points for the time you occupy. Thanks!
Ok this doesn't seem correct considering all the other info and how long I've been playing. A state doesn't lose points if they occupy your own hub only. Reference Frog King: ***Occupy means take. Think of it as who occupies the hub for the 2 weeks between WK instead of being in it for a few minutes.
That's what is meant when they are referring to occupying hubs for the trophies*** So according to what that says and the way it has been, you don't lose points for defending your own hub. That is the main goal, defend your own hub.
That is confusing compared to the patch notes
You are still occupying a hub even if it is your won hub
I mean if you didn't occupy a hub then why do you get occupancy points for being in your own hub
The difference I already see between notes and picture is the tier rewards all being 500 or 800 or such for each catagory.
The only thing I see changing is the points given out have decreased from before
Oops looked at it wrong lol
Thought in patch notes I changed the capture to
Reading it while also just waking up lol
You lose points if you only occupy your own hub unless you are silver and below. The patch meant to encourage fighting. It used to be diamond tier being the only one that loses point for not occupying other hub. So everyone was funnelling to platinum.
#šwasteland-king message
This is the old system.
Well sorry but I'm not staying up playing a game for 16 hours plus just to do this. I have a life besides this game!
How many troops will you lose trying to occupy 2 hubs ????
You actually don't have to stay up 16 hours. If you are currently in one foreign hub, your own state hub will be shielded as long as you stay in one foreign hub. Doesn't work if you are in two foreign hubs. So you can just throw t1 taxi in your own hub and occupy the foreign hub.
We taken hubs before while still having to defend ours
That didn't happen with us when we did it before. We still had to defend ours on top of getting another states.
Turrets still can fire the shielded hub, hence t1.
There was no shield!!!
Point 5.
Did this a few times, most likely your state didn't stay in the foreign hub.
It is correct. You lose points for occupying only your own hub
As my own alliance mate Frog King said, occupation means control. So if you do not occupy (conquer) another state, and only take your own, the new rules mean you will lose points.
It is a visualization of the patch notes
So guess they will be losing a lot of players then! I've already seen a decrease in players.
I havenāt noticed this. There has been more consolidating of power, however.
Iāve noticed this considerably. Iāve seen a lot of players quit lately
Let them quit. Nobody is forced to play this game. That is their choice
We always get the quit remarks after an update lol
And a lot don't quit. I probably would have if I didn't actually like the people I play with
I love my team and the state I play in. But do agree with AJ
Does anyone have the link to the wk nap server
Naps wonāt be as popular, now that you have to occupy another hub to keep and earn points
Still asking for a friend lol
Think itās invite only? Iāve wanted to be there myself
Is it 100% that you will lose points if you only take your hub?
Yes
Thank you Kazumi.
Question⦠it shows 3 tech hubs point system. There are only 3 states. So⦠occupying your own state is one of them?
Pmcrash
Occasionally there's a 4 way match up
@earnest vigil
I see now. Thank you.
Another question please. So if we hold our own hub (which is -200) and take another hub (which is 500), does that mean the total is 300?
No. You only lose 200 points if all you do is occupy your own hub. If you take another, you get 500.
Thank you so much. It is not as easy as anyone think to take an opponentās hub and defend oneās own. So what if we win the enemyās and lose ours⦠as in a stalemate. Same as just defending our own. Is that 200pts each?
In most cases people would tend to go back and defend their own. Nobody has ever come in and said that they won a hub and lost their own, so I really don't know.
Thank you. Will there be a state infirm?
No, same rules as usual.
When is it considered you've occupied a hub? Does this mean you have to take the state or just take the hub and occupy it for a certain amount of time? Since this is a new change that goes into effect tomorrow does anyone have any insight into this??
Iām sure they want to force us to do the whole 8hrs.
They want us to burn our troops.
Take it
This is a foolish way to lose a ton of troops. Also, we are working with conquest as well. Greed runs strong
What are troops for? Also conquest you get 90% back
And you get a 300% boosts for lost troops to turrets and hub kills
Not everyone has the speedups to gain back the troops lost. Also you must lose a high amount of troops to gain points in conquest, which requires speedups as well
The new wk force us to battle and encourage us to be solid as a whole state. Teamwork. Thats why every state should be at peace and didnt attack each other on the same state.
You donāt have to battle. You can still keep your hub. Just will lose some points.
As far as I know, they have not changed how to occupy a hub: 8 consecutive hours, or longest cumulative time.
So if you have occupied the hub but not taken the state, it will still cost you points? It seems that the game should recognize that you've occupied the hub, once it scrolls the notice that you have occupied the hub. We should not have to take the state to be considered as occupying the hub.
You have to take it. Thatās how you occupy
Yes you have to take the hub, but do you have to keep it.
Yup
Yes. In order to be considered as having taken a hub you must occupy it as I stated above. That is the only way.
And, unless my memory is wrong, when you first start occupying a hub, yours gets a shield for as long as you are in that foreign hub. If you get kicked from it, or leave it, the shield drops on yours.
so I guess they want this event to actually go 24 hours. Rather than those who work out a NAP and end the battle in 8 hours.
BINGO!
Well doesn't that just suck...
They probably got tired of everyone nap nap nap.
I meanā¦.it is war lol
Oh, I know. I downloaded it for the match 3 aspect. The ads lied!
Lol. Looks like neither of us got what we wanted since a town is certainly not what my sanctuary looks like.
Looks like a mess since that update that squished everything over and down.
Update is acceptable. We are going to nap.
Lol. One of mine probably will. The other has had azzh**** the Last while who would rather keep it going 24 hours, without taking a hub. Those full 24 hour events are exhausting!
So occupy=colonize?
Occupy means hold their hub.
You canāt go back and forth between your state and theirs. You canāt give them their boosts. You canāt collect rss on their state.
You only get the taxes from sanctuary hits and transports.
Your alliance name doesnāt even show as occupying the state in the leaderboards.
All it really means is more rss tax for you, and more trophies.
We contacted CS and we are trying to get clarification on what is the minimum occupation time on an enemy state
I guess the points needed for all rewards changes next wasteland? Or maybe not at all š
Think like this. You only get points if you take hubs. You get zero points if you just occupy for a little bit
Minimum occupation.
More time than they have had in their hub. How much clearer?
It doesnāt have to be all at once. It can be 39 seconds here, five minutes there as long as your total time equals more than their or the other state if they are trying to get it as well.
But the minimum, if you want it all in one go, is 8 hours straight.
335 took all the states šš
Don't knowš but in the rewards I don't see any changes š¤
Occupy means take. As in conquer.
The points were not set to change. We got Nataly frags as rewards now.
does anyone know the fast comeback 300% cancelled this time?
Nothing changed with fast comeback
How do we locate the new Wasteland Hospital so that we can heal our troops? My wounded arenāt showing up in my infirmary or the alliance hospital. Thank you
There isnt one. There is a Wasteland Conquest hospital. Nothing changed for Wasteland King.
That is what I meant. Sorry if posting in the wrong spot. Iām a grandma. LOL.
The event happening right now is not Conquest. That was the one earlier this week with all the states
I know. My state is in the middle of Wasteland King, but no one can find the Wasteland Hospital
Thank you
So if I canāt find my wounded, are they dead?
Okay. Thank you. Wow, so many killed. Iāve lost over a million in might.
Yeah thatās going to take a bit to rebuild š¢
S76 and s80 are under his control š¤Ŗ
Thank so much
Again, you are confusing 2 events. There is no hospital for Wasteland King.
There is a hospital for Wasteland Conquest.
Not the same event
Um, a million in might is nothing. Iām down 100m right now š¤£š¤£
Whoa!! You must be waaaay more powerful than I.
No, just stupider š¤£
Hillside is a " all in " type š
So many shiny things to chase. If you donāt go full speed, someone will get them first. Lol
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When you only sleep 3 hours before WK, sometimes things look a lot shinier until you have a cup of coffee and realise that 1.8m troops went chasing after things and forgot to come back š¤¦āāļø
𤣠yeah well... only look after not before your coffee next time š
what level hq is required to join feast?
20
Am I missing anything? Thereās really on 1 spot to get Nataly frags fromā¦. Canāt even get 10 every two weeks
Governor can grant box which contains it as well, depending on your league grade, higher league grants more frag.
Thanks. Missed those š
Be nice to your Governor
Can we use fast come back during next ace? Or it has to be used today? Thank you
Wrong channel to
Wrong channel?this not wasteland king??
I try to be a good Rok š
How many days is fast comeback. Canāt remember
i dont remember either
Anyone know how long fast comeback lasts? Looking to get it to last till new dev š
Oh my! Are there no longer points for taking casualties in WK? When did that happen?
Nothing changed. How did you lose troops?
Casualty to turrets.
Or hub
72 hours
Thank you!
I had to find a screenshot between sending myself enough rss to replace my 1.8m dead/injured troops before nuka. Lol
Can the fast come back be used next week?
It can be used any time during the 2 weeks before the next WK
Thanks hazumi, I was looking in the wrong place, durr. Couldnāt find it through the WK event tab š
Thank u azzie
Hurray for another 24 hour WK...
With the new point format, do you have to take the other hub fully or just occupy it for some time to receive grade points? Example you sit in another states hub for 2hrs but they end up being governor of their state.
Fully to count as occupy
Just learn that if I send my farm to my mains tower I get points š
Say what now??
We had a 4-way 2 times in a row and it SUCKED!! Much easier to deal with 2 alliances than 3, and with 3 you run a greater chance of a 24 hour contest because it's inevitable that one of the 4 won't want to cooperate and work to get the highest points with the fewest casualties.
I was wondering about this myself. If our hub went completely unoccupied for the entire 24 hours, who would have the hub at the end?
I saw two instances where there was only 2 states today
So mind blown when I hear there were some with 4
We celebrated that we only had 2 opponents today, we didn't get a full NAP for the day, but it was done much quicker. The biggest might player of all 3 states decided he was finished playing, and since we were the last ones to get our shield, he stayed in our state and chased away anyone that threatened to reset us again! š
Unfortunately even Iām bigger than both the other states. So we havenāt let anyone have their hub yet lol
I would rather have 4 then 1 š
hello~ can someone help me understand WK scores? our state was in the platinum rank. We lost our hub today and didn't take a foreign hub. Based on the chart, we should have been deducted -500 total (-200 and -300), but we only got deducted -300.
What am I missing?
It doesnāt combine like that. āNo hubs occupiedā means your own hub was the only one you occupied. So you lost the correct number of points. You would lose 200 only if you occupied your own hub.
@livid cedar
ah that helps a lot. thank you.
Why the T12 has priority to heal?
You can use the sliders and select what you want to heal. As for listing it always lists the best troops first.
Anyone familiar with the T1 infirmary trick?
It usually puts the largest troops on priority
Thank you for the hint
Alright. Thanks for this information
Your state activated Comeback. Do you will train T1 or t11?
I lost 100m might with t11
I would train t11 today to also please the ace Commandeur and get nice points there š because today you get more points for higher t units... but dont forget to activate right talents, training boost and cost reducing
But i dont have t11s now... i have just a small hq 31 šš
Depends which trick you mesn
Your fingers will fall of trying to replace 100m in might with t1s. It will happen long before Ace is over too š¤£
Fill infirmary with T1 and use deep healing instead. My question is, letās say I had 200k T10 go into deep healing, did all of that count towards fast comeback? Iām assuming it did because I had way more points for fast comeback than I normally do.
Yes, as long as they were still through turret and hub attacks. Any troops beyond your regular infimrary are Dead. Deep healing and alliance infirmary recover dead troops for you.
I do this all the time, but I use t9s since that is all I have š¤£š¤£
I typically hit tiles while grumpily waiting for my turn in a turret, filling my infirmary in the process (whatever wasnāt full already from abusing my troops), then by the time Iām in or hitting turrets, 100% of those loss count. If you use First Aid at the point your regular infirmary is full, it saves more troops into deep healing and counts those towards fast comeback too
Awesome, thanks! I thought so, but just wanted confirmation. I have 27m in fast comeback which is way more than I normally get.
I have helped a lot of people fill their infirmaries with taxis before. Kinda feel like Uber some days trying to destroy the Taxi industry š¤£š¤£
Hello, I have a question. It says - 300 points even though we kept our hub, knowing that we are on diamond level
They updated the point system to promote fighting.
Started this weekend
I was just looking at the update, thank you šŖ
So many states have been trying to drop leagues faster these days, so many are happy ish about it.
We need to drop. Can't compete with beefy 40s yet
We have two dead states ugh
We have one with ichi as one state against us... so.... valiant i will not drop my shield š¤£
Just a heads up for all states, we were up against s255 had nap with them and alliance RAV broke nap so careful in future dealings with 255 because while their word as a state may be good their RAV alliance will not hold true to it
Ohhhh. I know some of those that went from 14. They wonāt stop for 24 hours either lol. Ruthless
They are all pretty fun and nice and friendly... but i dont like to get burned, also not if they are nice to me š¤Ŗ
This 'new' wk system will only do 1 thing, funnel everyone into gold and silver. The WK rewards, I.e the frame and nataly frags are so out of reach people don't bother.
It's more important to have control over boosts, boxes and titles. Naps will continue to be life until there's a fundamental change
Blue Stacks and macros for the win.
My 14 year old computer barely runs google chrome š
You can try FB Marketplace - people are always getting rid of computers, some for free. Anything within the last 5 years can run BS.
I donāt think thatās true at all. States have already started to conquer more. You can conquer, NAP a few times without dropping grade, and then conquer again.
Depending on your points
Will be interesting to see that's for sure
The 300% fast comeback, is that automatic for every state post-WK win or lose? Or does a conquering state have a choice to activate it for the losing state?
Yes. Should be automatic if you lose
Thanks Kazumi! šš¼
Maybe Iām thinking wrong about this but wasnāt the 66m points for the last reward supposed to be lowered?
š disco never gave me a notification for this. So itās not supposed to change then?
the governor reward box gives you alot
I saw unfortunately my state governor doesnāt share
Mine did š
Mr mod do you know anything about point requirements being lowered?
If I sit in the mud during WK and someone hits me would I get casualty points?
Casualty points, yes. Fast comeback, no.
A headache. Yes
Danke für diese Art von Fest.!!! Schämt euch....
Feast is junk. Robbing people who pay for gifts and canāt claim
They have limited the gifts in the feasts, it is scandalous! I won't be buying any more packs until this is fixed.
Stop trying to tag everyone in a 111k person server and stop spamming the same messages in multiple channels.
This is wasteland king
Maybe if the game wasnāt so cheap we wouldnāt feel this way. You are speaking to a symptom. Not the cause.
Iām keeping the discord in order as is my job.
Can you clarify the math for me? If my infirmary is full, and I send a march of 300k, 90k will be permanently lost per the 70/30 rule and 210k that go into deep healing are considered dead and qualify for fast comeback, correct?
Fast comeback only counts might loss in turret/hub attacks, but does it also count death from defending hub/turrets?
Yes to all of that, with 2 notes.
Most people arent actually 70/30. Your miraculous survival changes it. Mine is about 81/19. You can check a battle log of yours to confirm (and if you use First Aid, it also raises the ratio).
Defending counts, as long as you are not counting Turret Fire on troops in the Hub. Regular defence does count.