🗣news-post-talk

[split mica]

RIP all the others

[zinc shard]

Hello can someone help me for delete a bookmark on doomsday

Pls

[torn ore]

Go to the book mark list. Then to the state section

[zinc shard]

Perfect thanx

[nocturne oyster]

Is there a clean image of the new Doom map?

[chilly fern]

#🆚doomsday-expedition message
Like this from hela?

[nocturne oyster]

found in #🔥game-general

[nocturne oyster]

Yours is better!

[novel geyser]

Ok so there was a glitch, which wouldn’t be the fault of players, and now they want to fix it in such a way that players will be penalized - many of whom probably didn’t even know there was a glitch?

When a business makes a mistake, it should be fixed in such a way that it doesn’t hurt customers.

[lean oak]

I am not shocked. I am pretty sure you could slap a PNS dev in the face with a 3 ring binder full of great business practices at this point, and they would look around and ask the other devs in the room if they felt a breeze. Most games would have simply given out extra to everyone and made players happy. PNS seems to thrive on player discontent at this point.

[brazen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/chicago-fire-stella-kidd-breeze-i-do-feel-a-breeze-wind-gif-8632229518684961638

[tiny pier]

Worst part is people didn’t even get back the stam they put into the event. That on its own is a blatant crime

[urban kettle]

More PnS epic fails..smh

[dull patrol]

I'm a wait for people to come out and defend this one.
Cause at the end of the day they are punishing the players for the developers mistake because it gave the players something they would have had to drop unreasonable amounts of money on otherwise.
Also since they aren't refunding stam they are hoping to force people to buy that as well, and to try and repurchase what was just taken away from glitch they didn't even know about.

Time to leave another suggestion about off wk roll back and this.
Despite their oh so generousconcessions and all the positive feedback, they did listen to us /s

[novel geyser]

I’m concerned about their recent message saying they’re going to remove curios. I paid for the bird in the first event and it had better not disappear. As for their error, there is no harm in letting people have what they got. It would create good will but that’s something the company either doesn’t understand or care about. 🤷‍♀️

[torn ore]

As far as remove curios. It’s only from the benifit of the exploited masks

[lean oak]

WOW! I just read the message you are talking about, and they are going about this in such a bad way. They are acting as if a bunch of players cheated rather than it being an error created by the game. Generally what I have seen in games before, is that if the issue lies with the game/devs, they fix the issue and compensate everyone, no removal of items BS. If the issue is players cheating/injecting, then removals/bans. Unless this were a very, very small portion of the player base that way over exploited the bug, I just can't see this being a good way to fix this type of issue, especially if they end up screwing up someone's account that paid for anything. The likelihood that they cause just as many issues as they fix with a heavy handed approach is high IMO.

[dull patrol]

But they gotta punish players for benefiting from a mistake on their end that allowed them to get something (without even knowing) that the developers want them to have to PAY FOR!
They do not care about their players.

[lean oak]

Agreed, and it is totally dumb. They limit the number of items you can buy in the shop anyways, so even if some players got a bunch of extra masks, it isn't going to suddenly allow them to not have to buy stuff in the other events to max out this curio set. They limit the number of masks you can get daily, the masks don't always drop, they limit the number of items you can buy in the shop... yet they want you to spend unlimited money on everything. Just like the stupid changes to Hunt Mastery and Might Week, and pretty much everything else they do, they just keep placing limits on item use/cost reduction and increasing the monetary cost of everything. Then they screw up in favor of the players one time, and would literally burn the world down to take back the little bit of extra scraps the players got in order to make sure we didn't get anything extra. I didn't know about the bug, and I didn't get any extra masks, but I don't begruge any players that did and think that they should get to keep them.

[dull patrol]

They will read that and goooo ohhh good idea players will love it 💀

[lean oak]

Good grief, you just red flagged your own red flag, lol. Or is that death flagging your own red flag? Or red flagging your own death flag? I am not sure, but I think you created a flag loop of some kind...

[dull patrol]

I did something that's for sure.
I should delete that post before the devs get wind of it

Ok nothing to see here devs no more crap ideas for your book of Worst Ideas Ever 🫠

[brazen kite]

I get the why of calling it an exploit but tbh... had i had any stam to kill Masked Guardians odds are i wouldn't have even notice. I'm sure some did and took full advantage with intention but most i doubt intention so makes calling it an exploit feel "wrong" when in reality they didn't thoroughly test their code. If that was a rare thing okay but it isn't rare at all, perhaps some of the copious amounts of money spent on the game should be invested in better QA before releasing bad code.

[novel geyser]

Yes, I know. I don’t have a lot of trust in this being done well, particularly since it shouldn’t be done at all.

[novel geyser]

I actually did know about the issue but I’ve not joined many of the special monsters because I’m in a partial boycott of special events (started with the anniversary events). I decided that the stam cost wasn’t worth what was on offer. I’m glad I did because the demand on stam this week is horrible.

[high mauve]

Even worse is they didn’t give stam back that played the game how they set it up.

Trust is definitely beyond broken. Be curious what the next thing they dangle at us with a bait and switch.

[novel geyser]

This is just another reason not to do the special events. I started skipping during the anniversary events because of the might week change.

[somber patio]

Yeah, here's a question:
Why do you have so many stamina heavy events scheduled at the same time? Pretty crappy way to treat your customers.

[azure frigate]

Doomsday sucks

Since you said speak freely…. I will. 😂

First of all the timing was terrible! There is too much happening at once: showdown, ace, firefly, and off events.

Second, it feels like I have to pick between keeping the resistance up or getting universal wrenches for the tech. Like was adding radiation really necessary? -_-

Third, having 20% permanent deaths after the event if you cannot heal the troops is not a good idea because some bullies could zero you towards the end of the event because they can. Then you loose 20% of those troops you worked so hard to get. So make an option to speed up the healing kits production with diamonds or something.

Forth….sigh bring back res tournament because that is more fun than doomsday.

I am not resting my case just yet

If anyone can see me, give me a sign

[dull matrix]

They aren't bullies if you get hit in a touching zone and you don't have nap👀

[azure frigate]

Then I will rant some more tomorrow

[azure frigate]

Yeah but still a rude move

[dull matrix]

Not really

Don't sit unbubbled there. Kills is 1 of the quests

[azure frigate]

hides in safe zone

[high mauve]

Leadership should have posted where you can be hit at.

[dull matrix]

Yep

As soon as we hit PvP we had warnings out

[high mauve]

We’ve been putting bookmarks and alliance and groups messages so folks know.
It sucks getting hit, but it’s not the end of the world. The goo for the heals grows fairly quickly. Make sure to do your dailies and then a certain percentage comes back healed on Fridays. 😀

[dull matrix]

We have a few someones I had to ask to die less since itsonly 2 weeks this time

They crack me up tho

[high mauve]

End game may be ugly for a lot of players.

[azure frigate]

I already see it

[dull matrix]

Mmmmmhmmm

[azure frigate]

At least with wk you get a speed boost for the troops you lost

[high mauve]

Definitely helps on the rebuild.

[azure frigate]

Doomsday doesn’t offer that

[high mauve]

It doesn’t but it offers good to heal all your troops. You don’t loose troops until it’s over

[dull matrix]

With how spicy first dd got for us I definitely gauge first if im going in unbubbled to hit stuff. If I do I sit behind my alliances big if he's there cause I get scared🤣

[azure frigate]

Well I guess I get to go back to the times of living under a bubble in the early days. Ahhh fond memories of fires around. 🥲

[dull matrix]

For higher rss tiles being closer its not too bad

[bold cape]

20% get healed weekly too

[azure frigate]

I apologize for my terrible grammar

[bold cape]

Just adding

[azure frigate]

I only mentioned the stuff I didn’t like, the free heal is good

Ik I am just already fed up with it already. 😒

I spoke freely ^^

I can go on all day about it lol

[torn ore]

[azure frigate]

Just ask about a certain event I will be honest. 😂

[torn ore]

Not problem with that

[azure frigate]

XD

Oh great now I am getting threats to sign up for wk

Hold on

Back

[torn ore]

Welcome back lol

[covert stirrup]

Exploiter... really harsh term. I ended the "refresh" with TWO masks...despite having purchased boxes and run many lairs. No way can go from 2 to 100 for the red in a day.... sorry do not see how I am an exploiter and being completely penalized as a result. But if that is how PNS views me wouldn't surprise me given the odds of events and what it actually takes for me to win the top rewards (apex weapons, apex bios, etc....)

[covert stirrup]

This is the third big "error"/adjustment PNS has done in the past few months.. is PNS purposefully doing this to exploit the players... something to think about...

[novel geyser]

Let me see if I understand this correctly - there was a glitch in the Guardian event and some players might have taken advantage of it. So, to make it right, the developers have opted to take away anything gained from that glitch, even if you didn’t even know the glitch was happening. But they’re leaving the shop open an extra day and allowing us to buy items, which is really a further penalty to players? No hey we messed up and we’re sorry, here’s an extra day on the shop and let us lower the prices for screwing up? No effort to actually do right by their customers?

[brazen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/self-high-five-high-five-yes-nailed-it-i-nailed-it-gif-2106375516209438201

[tiny pier]

Do the brick hammers convert to rock hammers after event?

[tiny pier]

When they say the customer is always right… that’s a class PNS skipped

[novel geyser]

Someone answered me in the game chat channel - looks like they do

[tiny pier]

Okay thx foggy

[torn ore]

Yes

[torn ore]

This event. I think the walls and pass are unique. But interesting.

[dull matrix]

I actually like the pass idea and the mountains

[unkempt plover]

I kind of liked it better when footholds opened at different times

It makes it hard for everyone to participate when it’s always same time.. when there are so many different time zones

[torn ore]

It is odd that they are not staggered.

[urban kettle]

I don't think the pass/gate ones should count towards your daily building numbers.. Especially since it's zero points

[unkempt plover]

It’s just a lot going on cuz we got this event, ace, showdown.. fireflies, and then we had the masked guardians that I gave up on quickly

[urban kettle]

It is way too much at once and all stam heavy.. it's ridiculous

[queen onyx]

I am not a fan of everything opening at 4am every time

Last time I had someone the morning, some afternoon, some night, then the horrible 4am ones.

[urban kettle]

Right.. we have people missing out but will reset buildings too like before for them.. but was better last time to split the responsibility

This virus crap can go.. We have enough to do

[unkempt plover]

2 weeks is too much too 😄

i know it was shortened but still. haha

[novel geyser]

I don’t mind the radiation but there need to be more ways to get vials and there needs to be more of them freely available. Doom is already hard enough for a lot of players unless you’re spending, it doesn’t need to be made harder.

[azure frigate]

Yk what, why not I make a bingo card and play PNS bingo.

What should be on it?

Free space is purchase pack 😂

[urban kettle]

I was noticing some requesting they want tags for Doomsday.. There are 10 tags in the bookmarks with a choice of a different flag. I personally use 1 for each Sonic per alliance, 1 for the Faction Mill and that leaves 4 you can use to mark the next attacks or like me have fun tagging people with fun stuff

[narrow hearth]

if you are a big alliance, and can take it it seems like a good idea. If you are matched against alliances 4 times your size, and no access to the pass, and the areas behind, it does not seem such a good idea

[dull matrix]

i think its a good idea either way. its a neat blocker that means you got to be smart about where to move and what to take. especially since a pass counts as a foothold and you are pretty limited on footholds in the beginning

[narrow hearth]

if the matching would work, i would agree, this way it is a punishment for some teams, and a blessing for others

[bold cape]

Definitely have to replan differently, since the passes have to kept to maintain the territory beyond it

[dull matrix]

We all get affected by it weak or strong wtf

[high mauve]

If you’re an alliance with one pass, then it’s definitely in your best interest to get the pass and put your faction base on the other side of the pass, otherwise it’s baby in the corner time if a stronger group takes it and you can’t defeat them.

[narrow hearth]

yes, and if you are strong you benefit from it, if you are weak, then a punishment, that's what I said. As @high mauve said, baby in the corner time. I get it that you don't feel that way, well lucky for you. With the passes and the areas blocked behind it, even the NAP negotiation is more tricky. In the previous version you had a good chance to negotiate even up to level 4 or 5 lands, because the map was allocated that way. Now lot of lands locked behind

[dull matrix]

I don't know what's happening here or why we are complaining cause I like the strategy behind the mountains and passes

Since you know it prevented you from clashing right away but ok...😂

[bold cape]

Nap territories can be adjusted once all passes are open, just a bit more math

We will have to do some redrawing of the map most likely

[dull matrix]

I am now questioning if they wanted pvp right from the get go🤣

[bold cape]

Just need 2000 points for max rewards for any faction except #1 and #2

[bold cape]

I love it

[dull matrix]

I don't mind it but it's nice to not be right away😂

[bold cape]

The pace is so much better, was so boring last time waiting around

[dull matrix]

I am just here for the gear p2s and large tiles🤣

[bold cape]

Im gonna miss those tiles!

Gathering all 9s right now

https://tenor.com/view/chewing-character-chewing-character-hd-chewing-character-hd-gif-22077966

[dull matrix]

I love swifting the big tiles😂

And then right back out to em lol

[narrow hearth]

you are not complaining, some people like it, so does it mean all of us have to like it? I am just trying to put it into a different perspective. If you are the baby in the corner, and all passes are controlled by teams where you have zero chance to beat, what is the strategy for the areas behind?

[dull matrix]

Now you are just talking in riddles

What is happening here lol

[brazen kite]

Smaller faction over matched to larger don't stand a chance factions?

[narrow hearth]

Ok, try to make it clear, we are a team sitting in the corner, passes controlled by others, so we have zero access to areas behind, so technically for us the event is over after 2-3 days. We can go there run higher lairs, or gather rss, but that's it. So there is no more strategy, no more planning. Is that still a riddle?

[bold cape]

Some factions are nice and share some don’t unfortunately

[narrow hearth]

for us it is funny, cause the big teams can't agree with each other for other area NAP 😂 therefore no overall NAP lol so our neighbors are just" no overall NAP so let's discuss later"

[bold cape]

As long as you get territory in the end for faction rewards, that’s the best rewards anyways

Hopefully they will work something out

I’ll draw them a map if needed 😂

[high mauve]

The issue for team 1 is if they’re weaker than team 2 and 3 is that they need to get the mountain pass to the left. If they don’t get that and then set their faction base on the other side. If another team (2 or 3 in this example) swoops in and takes those territories, and that pass, then team 1 has no chance to go further.

The hope is to try and negotiate naps.

[narrow hearth]

lol i stole your map from here, so try to make it easy, for them but still no agreement haha

[brazen kite]

We have one faction way on the other side of the map that I feel terrible for. They only had one area in addition to their safe zone bc one faction didn't get on board with nap for lvls 1-4. If your situation is similar sorry, that stinks but that is the natureof some ppl. I'm just glad that one faction is literally on the other side bc they don't seem like fun to deal with at all.

[bold cape]

We are the biggest faction on the map, there’s zero reason to take everything
It’s super easy to get everyone enough points

[high mauve]

Some have state they’re war states and don’t nap…

[bold cape]

Oh it’s war ish until the end, but then everyone can take their share 😆

[dull matrix]

Thanks for actually talking and not frustration talking for once

[narrow hearth]

which is ok, this is a war game at the end of the day. What i was trying to say that for us, the passes made the NAP more complicated, and because of the passes the lands are more limited to us, so no I am not a big fan of the passes.

[bold cape]

True, the passes definitely make it more difficult to preplan nap

[high mauve]

Oh they definitely made it more complicated. Just giving an example where it can be bad news for a much weaker team.

[dull matrix]

We have a baby faction under us I just wanna cuddle and protect they won't do no harm

I am not completely rude😂 DD is violent if you don't have a nap and are weaker there is a chance you get cornered👀 but I do find the passes and mountains an awesome addition but I love strategy 😂 but hearing smaller factions are already cornered yea thats a side effect we saw it last doom too. There is always the option if you got stuff to reset it when the big alliances are maxed on buildings or not looking👀 🤣

[high mauve]

But will they? Some like to punish folks for “whining”

[bold cape]

Will they take the share?

The offer is on the table , if they don’t take it, not our fault tbh

[narrow hearth]

i was not frustrated, i guess i just was not clear enough explaining, so my apologies

[dull matrix]

They usually say sharing is caring...👀 🤣

[bold cape]

We are, just not until the end 😂

[dull matrix]

I feel that lol

The faction we took something from is currently trying to shield the foothold touching the 1 we took

[azure frigate]

So by saying “community” is it the whole game and discord? I assumed it was that and my answers were surrounding both.

[bold cape]

That’s my interpretation as well

The game, facebook, discord combined

[azure frigate]

Oh good 😅

[bold cape]

Can’t go wrong with including everything

[azure frigate]

Ikr

[azure frigate]

spills coffee whoops 😅

[bold cape]

[azure frigate]

Whoever created or thought about doomsday, I will toast all of your bread and put it back in the bag.

[copper badger]

🤣🤣🤣

I will help you

[raven trench]

The balancing is really very badly done, we end up with players who are in the world top 20, so it's no chance, the quests of the 2nd week are the same as the first and it's a shame because it's too repetitive

so yes review the balance for the next one put the top 100 in the world together, because the first one was the same, unplayable

[torn ore]

Who did you end up against

[prime smelt]

Definitely would prefer harder competition 😕 our opponents are way too small

[torn ore]

Next time you get hof and mof

[torn ore]

Ah my beloved sunshine!

[raven trench]

in addition to being too loud, they are disrespectful towards the little ones and that's what's a shame

[kind echo]

Doomsday seems like an event that is fun for 1/8th of players and just sucks for everyone else

Also, the bigger marches make it kind of absurd the amount of damage that can be done by the massive players in a single hit, like I don't know how this is remotely ok. I know there is still time to heal some including the 20% heal tomorrow but this player is still likely to lose a significant chunk of might after the event ends, unless they are willing to spend over a million diamonds on healing

As a suggestion for the future, I don't think war hounds should be allowed to be used for attacks on other player's sanctuaries

[torn ore]

[bold narwhal]

Can’t wait till DD is finished 🥳 Totally ruined majority of our Alliance Events as our strongest members left to join one of the Top 5 of our state. Even though it’s their personal decision to do so, I’m so happy I withdrew my application to join, especially since understanding the spending that’s been done in order to be helpful/competitive to my state.
I’m just thankful at least this time I wasn’t forced to play like last time 🙌🏼

Positives - I’m not in a Top 5 Alliance & forced to participate. - They shortened the event from 4 weeks to 2 week. - Decreased my spending & if spending, buying ‘useful’ items for my growth rather than an event necessity.

Negatives - The whole event. - Strength, member numbers & participation levels for Alliance events when other members leave to participate in DD. - Aligning DD with Showdown………..
1 Billion Trillion Gazillion % the dumbest idea EVER. - Unbalanced match making, for majority of events, not just DD. - Minimal rewards versus effort/time/money required for participation.

Nearly forgot…. Reverse the ‘optimisations/improvements/💩 show’ formally known as Improve Might/Off Week. And I guess I’ll continue to patiently wait for Devs to actually read & implement * anything * from the Game Suggestion channel 🤩

[warm crystal]

we're on the same map! 😄

[young kestrel]

Our matchups took everything from us so we don’t even get points 🙄 love that for us 🤣
It’s a war game but when you’re outmatched it makes it super hard to fight for anything. We could take from a smaller state but they only have 1-3 spots so we’re waiting a bit to see if a better opportunity opens up. The bigger state can win & still share because right now we’ve got 0

[young kestrel]

Tell me about it 🤣 we’re steady holding 8th place instead of 2nd like we were because #1 team waited till we were sleeping to zero everyone that could, taking rss spots and all our towers 🙄🤣 so now 1/2 our bigs are nearly zeroed. Majority of the #1 state have t13/14s still.

[alpine wind]

u can place a warhound on ur wall if u haven't done so already

[azure frigate]

I can?!? Perfect 😈

Let’s see how is my progress…

Somehow my faction upset the wallet whales in the teal team and might take all our buildings.

Then I am not even a quarter through the doomsday tech

[azure frigate]

Please do and bring extra toasters!!!

Also everything is too stam heavy, how do they expect people to have fun?

The battle chat is basically like speaking into the void so I started ranting in there about how doomsday is going. If you are matched up with 408, say hi to me!

Feel free to rant there too lol

[bold cape]

Toast?

https://tenor.com/view/chewing-character-chewing-character-hd-chewing-character-hd-gif-22077966

[rugged hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/jimchi-jim-chi-asmr-jimちasmr-toaster-lets-go-make-some-toast-gif-18469359

[azure frigate]

Yeah let’s go find a dev!!

They need toast 😂

Every piece of bread in the house

https://tenor.com/view/gametime-gameday-football-letsdothis-gif-2737325527404022429

[dull patrol]

Doom is exhausting. And I'm still waiting on a roll back for off week.
Rewards are still crap and their concessions were not good enough. Quit screwing your players over.

[dull matrix]

dooms doomsy doom

so much gathering... so much yummy coins... support tech maxed...not enough violence

[brazen kite]

Week 1 was exhausting with so much going on but week 2 has been better. Maybe next time it can not be starting with showdown and a zillion other things all at one time.

The 1 minute march to destroyer from anywhere was nice

[dull matrix]

I found after day 3 stam stuff calmed down I had no more issues

I didn't notice the destroyer change I ported onto it lol

[brazen kite]

It did calm down but for me then came planning wlk, running wlk, yada yada wasn't until showdown ended that it calmed down but a lot of that is self inflicted. 😂

[dull matrix]

Omg I am so glad it wasn't our host time I felt bad for host we hosted last dd and i was losing my mind🤣

[brazen kite]

Thankfully we have amazing neighbors and a reliable variety on Captains, honestly running it is one of my favorite parts of the game but added all together it can be a lot.

[mellow nebula]

How is this a fair match-up in Doomsday?

Faction Overall Might Rank

• Pink - 520 bil might
• Teal - 354 bil
• Purple - 334 bil
• Blue - 321 bil
• Orange - 218 bil
• Us - 178 bil
• Lime 156 bil
• Yellow - 95 bil

Fair would have been similar overall might, right?!

[bold cape]

Happens

Pns matching can be fabulous and the complete opposite from event to event

[mellow nebula]

Agreed

But…discouraging

[bold cape]

Agreed

[azure frigate]

Yikes!!

Definitely not balanced

[brazen kite]

Doomsday thoughts.
Week 1 was exhausting and that kind of sucked some fun out of it but it got better.
It would have been nice to know matchups a little sooner so naps could have been in place sooner taking some pressure off.
Match-up were a bit hit or miss and could definitely have been better for a lot of groupings.
Having the good stam purchases available throughout would be a nice add.
1 minute to destroyer was a good change.
6 weeks was too long but 2 weeks feels a bit short, maybe 3 would have been better but I doubt factions that were over matched and shut out would agree but could be better with improved matching.

Oh and the matching period going an extra day past what was shown in event was kinda meh but was whatever.

[devout jackal]

I think it would be more fun if you couldn't attack things (HQs, Tiles, Footholds) from safe zones. If you want to attack, man up and take a risk

[bold cape]

What if you only have the safe zone?

[devout jackal]

You can always still go into adjacent territories. If you want to attack you have to open yourself to risk

[bold cape]

I disagree, if an alliance has zero chance to hold extra territories they should still have a way to annoy others 🤷‍♀️

Everyone outside the safe zone should expect to be hit

I doubt if they are put into a corner they have much to really do damage with

The risk you take confining them to the corner without a chance of rewards

[exotic dagger]

Doomsday shows people from the worst side. Top-level whales just do whatever they want. All other factions are locked inside their home territories while there are free areas on the map. This is the same issue as before. Unfair matching and 0 chances for average factions to survive.

[tiny pier]

Diplomacy goes a long way

[torn ore]

Yeah.

[tiny pier]

We allow other factions to get their quests

No reason to be dicks

[prime smelt]

Some factions started hurling insults. Enjoy your safe zone!

[tiny pier]

Yeah we have one of those as well 😂

They aimed for the win, broke agreements and now they are surrounded

[torn ore]

I allowed too. But the other big alliance didn’t lol

[prime smelt]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes

[torn ore]

There were a lot of insults. I’m sure there will be more after level 8

[prime smelt]

One started begging after insulting us for a few days to remove their land lock 😂

[azure frigate]

I just watch from the safe zone

[azure frigate]

I have my popcorn ready for that 😂

https://tenor.com/view/lilnouns-nouns-lil-nouns-dao-noggles-gif-27131043

[split root]

😆

[unreal crown]

There’s definitely a lot of interesting emotions that surface in this event lol

[chilly fern]

True. I like doomsday and the additional radiation is good to Deal with if you have the tech for it.

[queen onyx]

Ending with 500isj red and 480 blues

Early tech and doing max lairs everyday helped.

[torn ore]

That was the best part. Maxing everything. Only spent 20 dollars

Didn’t even have to buy fuel

[azure frigate]

I am probably glowing like a glow stick from the radiation. Lol

No normal person can keep up with it

[torn ore]

Your right. I used the first week my farm to keep my main alive. But also you needed to do tech

[chilly fern]

I needed the first 2 days help of my farm for the radiation. After l leveled the tech and joined the lairs i didnt needed help anymore and stayed alive alone. Just friday i didnt joined enough lairs and died due to radiation 😵‍💫🤭

[halcyon prism]

Can you guys direct me to the discussion about the coins? I swapped for the federation coins in the doom shops so I could have a few for the holiday doom recruitment. It doesn’t take the federation coins and I can’t figure out what to do with them. I can’t even find the gold coins for the recruitment event in the store. Sorry so confused

[bold cape]

Look in Noah’s tavern

There’s an extra column

[halcyon prism]

Wow. Ok! It’s not in the timed taverns?!?! Wow. Ok

Thanks

[bold cape]

It’s confusing 😆

[azure frigate]

“How was doomsday?”

Me:

https://tenor.com/view/elmoerc-elmo-elmoarmy-elmofos-gif-7653063194150917692

[torn ore]

Loved it

[vital falcon]

I like this event too and wish I could spectate other dooms maps. This is the first event I played that I can actually tell a story about what happened

[bright sequoia]

This was me!

[oak mesa]

Love it

[vestal flax]

I liked doom but there were a lot of people including me who just couldn't keep up with the radiation part of it. I needed 2 more epic WH, would like to see apex added maybe next doom. And speaking of apex I'm 3rd yr and have never made an apex nanoweapon yet, bad luck idk.. ❤️😅

[gray gate]

This is how we spend Halloween at my house every year, with an annual trip to the Pumpkin Patch!

[torn ore]

I love the costume!

And cookies 🍪 😍 and snacks

[obtuse sage]

I hunt dinosaurs and clowns, and ultimately, clown dinosaurs. So successful at times I get chased out of town.

[split mica]

Going all in! Awesome!

[warm shadow]

Is there showdown next week?

[dull matrix]

Yee

[dull patrol]

Another off WK showdown with the new crap system.

[torn ore]

I add it to my reports weekly.

[dull patrol]

Fingers crossed I guess.

[torn ore]

Yeah. Just keep suggesting it and we will keep putting it in reports

[dull patrol]

And I guess I will boycott again. I have not upgraded, opened or done anything since this started. Hopefully by next showdown for off WK it will be reversed. If not then I guess they are just going to make us all eat crow and consider their concessions as enough.

[azure frigate]

What happened with showdown?!?

[high mauve]

Nothing

Appears they don’t like they can’t double dip as easy with showdown and off week (might week)

[bright sequoia]

Tell all your friends to be riders and problem solved 😂 shooter and fighter impossible to build from scratch with the disaster that might week is now. I like to think of it as the week I don’t have to play

[high mauve]

I learned that off the original might day rewards…

[dull matrix]

i still double dip while complaining it is not worth it lol

[bright sequoia]

I just play Destiny 2 🦆

Then some poor soul wants to know why I’m in team chat complaining about something called might day 😂

[high mauve]

Do they mute you when you say “skulls for the skull throne and blood for the blood god”?

[bright sequoia]

Depends most of the people I play with are from PNS lol they are used to it

[bold cape]

[high mauve]

He has a gif for it…

[paper ice]

TC if you upvote my potato march suggestion I will be team TC for one day

[bright sequoia]

Deal

[bright sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/khorne-skulls-for-the-skull-throne-blood-for-the-blood-god-gif-18272573

Disappointed at the lack of DOW40k knowledge. I thought you would love painting table top figurines

[high mauve]

Maybe you can get one crocheted?

[bold cape]

I’m working on miniatures right now, snow is coming this weekend

[high mauve]

Yall have a mild winter last year. Know our southern Idaho folks said it wasn’t bad.

[bold cape]

Oh it will be north pole worthy this year 😂

[high mauve]

That’s the best. More snow the better.

[azure valve]

I need to see snow this year

[novel geyser]

Please do not send any snow or ice to Texas. Y’all can keep it.

[torn ore]

It’s not bad.

[novel geyser]

Yes it is.

[azure valve]

Considering TX has areas that flood if you sneeze and an iffy power grid, I'm inclined to agree with Fog

[bold cape]

I’m doing it!

[torn ore]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

I don’t know who gets worse now. Hela or me.

[high mauve]

Aren’t there two seasons in Texas… summer and January (ice)

[novel geyser]

Mostly accurate.

[high mauve]

Also pretty sure yall don’t have insulation so pipes freeze easily

[dull patrol]

I'm in Michigan and I do not want anything to do with cold. Or snow. Or ice.

[torn ore]

Which city

[dull patrol]

Saginaw

Great Lakes Bay region lol

[torn ore]

Hmmm wayyyy to close

[dull patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/map-let-me-see-pirate-curious-confused-gif-15664094

[torn ore]

I am in the tri cities

But I love winter here

[dull patrol]

Yup Bay City, Midland Saginaw has a lot to offer

Not to mention all the other small towns with stuff.

[torn ore]

Crazy. I am in midland mall right now

😂

[dull patrol]

I used to do Snow fest sculpting but not anymore

I'm in Saginaw getting a giant burger at the VFW 😂

[torn ore]

I had Vietnamese food

[dull patrol]

Midland mall is actually coming alive sagianw mall not so much.

Have you been to Peter and Chais in sagianw? Not Vietnamese but their food is just

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-okay-great-meme-just-perfect-gif-17526416213440755600

[torn ore]

I don’t go to Saginaw lol

[dull patrol]

There's another guy in my new alliance in in 695 that's in Bay City lol

Wow discrimination 😂 you should lotta great food here

[torn ore]

Dangerous city 😅

[dull patrol]

Eh not really you know where to go.

But you gotta swing by t least once and try Peter and Chais. Their Thai food is fantastic and they are wonderful people.

But I was just in Midland last weekend for the antique fair.

[torn ore]

Nice

[gilded epoch]

I take 3 musketeers, Reese's cups and jolly ranchers from the kids. Decorations I would like to see would be
Skeletons
Pumpkins
Witches

[dire basalt]

I hope there is a cool Halloween house that is actually obtainable!

[bold cape]

https://tenor.com/view/theprowler-york-peppermint-patty-theman-gif-16968764512796046988

[bold cape]

Can never have enough pumpkins

[gritty solstice]

How do you actually talk to customer service now? It is so hard to get past the AI response.. I signed to play nuka and it put me still in the state but with the icon on the bottom left to click to leave nuka . this has happened before. Now I am going to miss nuka rewards

As you can see on the bottom left, the icon to leave the nuka event is not clicked..

It has done this before.

[torn ore]

Email them

[gritty solstice]

As I said, you can look on the bottom left and see that I am supposed to be in nuka at that point in time but I'm in the state

[inland birch]

Dear Commander✨️

You seem to be in need of contacting Customer Support (CS). May I suggest one of the following options:

Option 1 | In-Game
Tap on 'More' (gear icon, bottom right of task bar) > Settings > Help > Contact CS. Submit a new ticket by clicking "My Tickets" at the top right corner.

Option 2 | Email
[e-mail]
You will need your UID, which can be found under Settings > Account

IMPORTANT NOTES:

• If applicable, include any/all relevant information related to you and your issue:
• Screenshots/video of the issue(s)
• Screenshots/video of expected outcome(s)
• Proof of purchase

**Please be patient when waiting for a response. CS is NOT available 24 hours a day. **When high volume / game-wide issues come up, replies to tickets submitted may take longer to arrive. Thanks again for your patience!

[gritty solstice]

Thank you

[brazen kite]

I know it's a bit late but I had something similar but opposite (kinda)happen leaving water war map last week. Swapping characters and going back or closing and reopening helped, might be worth a try if it happens again. The seamless transitions setting might play a roll/help but tbh it just dawned on me so haven't tried it to know for sure.

[azure frigate]

I love peppermint patties

[gilded epoch]

Also have an idea about Noah's tavern be a haunted house

[chilly fern]

Ohhh haunted house during Halloween season? Sounds great!

[brazen kite]

I know it's only the 9th but can we have Halloween nownownow

https://tenor.com/view/tobi-tonton-upset-stomp-stomped-gif-11961427

[azure valve]

As nice as it would be to have Halloween already I want to enjoy the spooky season before they start pushing Christmas down our throats

[unreal crown]

You mean you don’t like hearing Christmas songs the day after Halloween? ….lol

[unreal crown]

I agree with you!

[azure valve]

I deliberately go out of my way to avoid Christmas music year round

[unreal crown]

I don’t blame you! Halloween is one of my favorite holidays and Thanksgiving is constantly overshadowed by Christmas. I feel bad for Thanksgiving. 😞

[modern quarry]

anyone know if megamarch works in tundra? Had another member ask

[modern quarry]

I am in canada, so thanksgiving here happens before Halloween. It's actually this weekend

[unreal crown]

Thanks for the reminder! I have family in Canada. And it’s a bit early, but have a Happy Thanksgiving!

[modern quarry]

Thank you!!!!! I let Halloween overshadow Thanksgiving here too, lol. decorations in house have been up since mid-September

[mellow vector]

it does not

interesting that it doesn’t list the mecha skill there cuz this is my tundra march size

[split root]

I love that idea!

[split root]

I know, right? I make sure to do as much as I can for Thanksgiving. I really love it. And I mostly love that it's NOT very commercial still!

[split mica]

Yeah thats pretty cool!

[azure frigate]

As someone who works in retail I completely agree! I don’t want to hear that cursed Christmas song anymore. 😭

Don’t ask what it is because if I say her name it will summon her. 😥

Also about those tavern coins….

https://tenor.com/view/cell-smart-im-not-a-hoarder-im-a-prepper-gif-15795767

[neat galleon]

Did they seriously show as a part of "Improved Might" series in a bulletin today? The new Might week is pretty much my reason for leaving the game

[bold cape]

#🩹patch-notes this?

[dull patrol]

Did that get altered or is there more than one bulletin? I thought it said reduce points for some tiers

[torn ore]

Not this one. A previous one I thought It said that

[dull patrol]

It did and now it appears it doesn't.....

[torn ore]

I just opened my eyes

Was probably a typo and they corrected it.

[dull patrol]

One of my alliance members tagged me a 5:26 am. So I'm not sure when it got altered. I looked at it around 6:30 and it still said the same as his post.

That's a hell of a typo

[torn ore]

🤷‍♀️ you have your rankings back

[dull patrol]

I will believe it when I see it quite honestly.

[torn ore]

And a new avatar frame.

[dull patrol]

This has been going on for months now. And I won't give any compliments to them if they do roll it back because it never should have gone on this long.

[torn ore]

I’ve put this in my reports. And yea. We need to see what it looks like

[dull patrol]

I wonder if they are going to make it a cumulative ranking like ace wk

[bold cape]

Surprised they are actually bringing back rankings

[torn ore]

We can only speculate how it will look.

Let’s just wait and see

[bold cape]

Yup

[dull patrol]

Yah the frame thing gives me vibes if it being like ace wk.

[bold cape]

Speculations just leads to tons of DMs of questions and rumors 😂

[torn ore]

All those go to Hela

[bold cape]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[torn ore]

I just get weirdos

[bold cape]

I’d actually prefer that 😂

[bold cape]

Oh I still get those too….

I’m tempted to get up after the patch and look at the Halloween stuff

[high mauve]

Here come the complaints that ranking for achievements is harder 🤣

[bold cape]

Always with any and all patch notes

[dull patrol]

At this point I'm just gonna assume it will be terrible and hopefully be mildly surprised if it's anything above that.

[high mauve]

Seems to be a running theme 😂

[torn ore]

It’s a patch. Always complaints. Maybe complaints that they didn’t want the ranking back lol

[dull patrol]

If someone complains they don't want rankings back I'll assume they are a bot lol

[high mauve]

Depends what the rankings bring 😂

[dull patrol]

I hated the whole thing and I honestly can't see even attempting to look at objectively any benefit or good that came from his whole thing.

[torn ore]

Rewards

[high mauve]

Money for someone

[high mauve]

The same old ones or a frame?

[bold cape]

Sparkles?

[high mauve]

Sparkle frame could be fun

[torn ore]

And sprinkles

[high mauve]

What about nano skins? 😶‍🌫️

[torn ore]

Don’t think I’ve ever seen a suggestion

[bold cape]

Go away

[high mauve]

Love you too

[mellow vector]

gonna have to start calling you loki with ideas like that 😒

[high mauve]

Knew it was his counter strike dream collab item. Why I mentioned it with everyone mentioning rando things 😂.

[queen onyx]

Rankings is terrible when the bracket you're in is horrible. Rankings is good when your bracket is pretty relaxed.

[high mauve]

Is ours relaxed or scary?

[queen onyx]

Mof dominated no chance hell

[high mauve]

Oh… they’re still in our division. Change to might week made me forget 🤣

[rough fox]

lol. I still like the idea of March skin decorations.

Imagine the Severed Feet March skin with red Boots or Ruby Slippers

[high mauve]

Dress them up for Halloween 😂

[queen onyx]

Zee wouldn't like that. He likes the toes out.

[high mauve]

He’d want them painted or in chacos

[lean oak]

I highly doubt they are bringing back the same ranking rewards. It will be worse than what we had previously in every conceivable way, and include the frame so they can tell us how wonderful and improved it is.

[high mauve]

Maybe the frame will sparkle and have sprinkles on it 😂

Smoke and mirrors 😂

[high mauve]

It will be a complete believe it when we see it situation.

[lean oak]

And maybe it will have 100% stats on it too, lol.

[high mauve]

1% is being gracious 😂

[brazen kite]

Dare I think this is an indication of the return of off week's former self?

[torn ore]

This is probably a special one. For the extra module modifications that they added.

The new one will have a frame

[brazen kite]

Oh darn, I forgot about the frame

I miss the daily nanotube infusion

[bright sequoia]

The ranking in ours looks about right from before

If they keep same thing

Module day might not be the one you want to rank for a bit but otherwise not bad 😂

I think #1 in our bracket is locked down tho……

[brazen kite]

Even in the harder bracket you can grab top 5% reasonably easily and finish with a lot more than the current 2 hero IIIs for similar effort.

[azure frigate]

Oof

[bright sequoia]

I spent 5 years waiting on these guys lol just know when to push 🤣

[azure frigate]

I don’t think I saved up enough to pass one of them

[bright sequoia]

Normally tho it is around 30m for 3rd

Just when they release something new That you don’t try to rank

I blame Hella

It helps me get through my day

[azure frigate]

I am saving up to shoot for first place

I am pretty sure it is possible?

[bright sequoia]

Watch your rankings for a few months and get a feel for it then tell your state when you are going to push so they don’t blow by you. Also as long as they keep it the same Top 3 is all that is needed for the achievement

Don’t push before the last 15 minutes

And have all your numbers infront of you so you know when you are beat and can save for the next time

[azure frigate]

It is going to take me a while to get all the stuff I need

Will be watching closely

[novel geyser]

So they’re changing the achievements again?

[dull matrix]

I guess only time will tell?

I am waiting to see next week before judging but I am already slightly judging

[brazen kite]

I got prematurely excited, guess we'll see next week.

[novel geyser]

I’m judging. I don’t believe in waiting. I will, in fact, pre-judge.

[neat galleon]

I'm anxiously waiting. If it's good, I'll start playing again rather than just doing my daily quest and no spend

[azure frigate]

There are ways to have fun without spending XD

This Halloween event is going to suck!

Like an actual scary costume please

I want scary not revealing! 😑

[chilly fern]

I hope to get her at least up to +3 so i can equip a core on her

[torn ore]

Let’s hope!

[cold hamlet]

Super cute 🥰 I just had to too, lol

[solid yarrow]

Awsome another passive character 👌, but just a little annoyed that 95% of my passive players only 1-2 frags.😒

[cobalt plaza]

Merci la carte bancaire

[azure frigate]

Hey that is mine too I don’t even have half of them unlocked

[radiant relic]

Is the nano weapon available for the character or is that later ?

[torn ore]

We’re not exactly sure what event will release the nano weapon

Yet

[radiant relic]

Okay thank you

[bold cape]

After October 29th

[wary prawn]

Just in time for Halloween

[modern quarry]

anyone have a handy screaming pumpkin to lair conversion chart?

[dull matrix]

Screaming Pumpkin

lvl 1 = zombie lair 6
lvl 2 = zl10
lvl 3 = zl20
lvl 4 = zl25
lvl 5 = zl30
lvl 6 = zl35
lvl 7 = zl40
lvl 8 = zl43
lvl 9 = zl45
lvl 10 = zl48
lvl 11 = zl50
lvl 12 = zl 53
lvl 13 = zl 55
lvl 14 = zl 58
lvl 15 = zl 60

If you are a fighter this chart might feel wrong lol

[tidal raptor]

Came on here to look for this thanks Blue!❤️

[unique wraith]

Hello, I have a question about the Core Preset Feature, I just unlocked it but I don't know how it works and what effect it has.

[torn ore]

@prime smelt might use it

[prime smelt]

Allows you to easily swap between core 1 and core 2 in the hero page

Go to hero page and there’s a core preset button

Core 2 is never active unless it’s brought to core 1. Also it swaps all core 1 to 2 and vice versa.

So very useful for economy heroes with troop core in slot 1 and an economy core in slot 2. Change it when u need to say build or research and swap back for troop cores.

Big whales might have two cores for fighter shooter and rider cores but generally it’s not as useful in this situation.

[unique wraith]

Thanks, I got it.

[quasi shell]

Would like to have another preset so one can be all training.

[brazen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/stickergiant-thumbs-down-hate-it-this-sucks-lame-gif-26624000

Off Week Ranks

[dull patrol]

I can't even anymore.
No change to pt requirements, no change to rewards just rankings with enhancement material??????
I just can't even understand the complete disregard...... The insanity at this point.

[brazen kite]

Honestly, that's just a complete slap in the face compared to what we used to get. Felt better not having it than this pile of steaming uselessness.

[dull patrol]

It really is. Pt requirements are the same, still no nanotubes or solar panels. And now we're supposed to fight for top ranking for a frame and enhancement material?????
How stupid so they think we are, very apparently.

[lean oak]

Honestly, this is about what I expected when they announced it. Their responses regarding the event have made it pretty clear they have adjusted it as much as they are willing. It sucks for those still working on these heroes, but they probably feel like new players won't know any better, so they won't complain, and those of us that complained about it, will either quit the game or just keep chugging along. I am sure they have studied their metrics and felt like they will continue bringing in enough new players to offset any loses over this. It is the only thing that makes sense at this point.

[dull patrol]

Well it's completely insane. I am now sitting on a mountain of hoarded and saved boxes, joy coins, speedups red etc and I know if I touch any of it to upgrade it will all be wasted. Sure I will be upgrading a bunch of gear and gaining in might but the losses that will hit me with the cuts to hero frags makes the other upgrades worthless. No one has stopped complaining and the reason why they made this change is still incomprehensible. No one complained about off WK. If they felt it wasn't worthwhile for their whales then add in options to level up some of the new heroes. It seriously dives me to consider quitting, which they wouldn't care and then just makes me mad that I was dumb enough to hang around as long as I have.

[brazen kite]

What most have said... we want the old ranking rewards back. What PNS heard.... they want rankings. What we got... 💩 🤬

[novel geyser]

The problem is that, at least in here, it was the same people complaining. Some people might have complained to CS but I suspect most grumbled and did nothing.

[bright sequoia]

They didn’t change the ranks at all

The ranking is a fake rank with no benefit but a temp frame

That was a middle finger to everyone asking for the return to the old system. May as well write a new fake survey that says we all like it

[prime smelt]

This is achievements, not ranking on might event

They never said they were changing achievements

[bright sequoia]

They were synonymous

There is 0 point to ranking if it isn’t for the achievement

[prime smelt]

Yes, however it’s actually easier to get achievements now

[bright sequoia]

Top 3 was lower

[prime smelt]

An example hero events would be in the 100+m points now u only need 36m

[bright sequoia]

Hero was 33m when I got it

For 3rd place

[prime smelt]

It hasn’t been 33m for a long time

[bright sequoia]

In the last 6 months it has been

Just have to time it

Probably depends where you are paired I suppose. But in the 400s on average 30-40m was 3rd place on a slow week

[prime smelt]

"generally" it's easier to get achievements, maybe in your individual situation the old event is better, for the majority the new achievement system is "generally" better

[bright sequoia]

The reward for it is also much less

[prime smelt]

personally i'm missing a couple and it's much easier than saving 10,000 boxes for gear or mod achievements

[bright sequoia]

You used to be able to get more hero cards for pushing

[prime smelt]

well yes, might event's have not changed, that i agree

not that i need them, but i can understand the angst

[bright sequoia]

My point was they paired well and you need a ton for specialties so it was very helpful to have

The new system there is essentially 0 point to participating as the rewards don’t match the output

[prime smelt]

yep, totally agreed on that, i saw the frame was timed and laughed

moved on quickly from it

[bright sequoia]

I personally just like gambling so that’s why I liked getting achievements thru ranking 😂 but my major gripe is that you can no longer push that event and net anything close to the old way.

[prime smelt]

must admit getting chip/cube back in old system was thoroughly enjoyable, i think i was at 350m points or something ridiculous, saved a lot for it

[mellow vector]

yes and no

and hero upgrade could be hit or miss

[queen onyx]

This one doesn't really count but is hilarious if it was part of the top 3 achievement event.

34 boxes comes out to 1,020,000 points soooo

[dull patrol]

The fact that they are still making it so that you have to use more RSS for less frags and less rewards is insane.
I don't even know how, when or if I will ever be able to upgrade again. I have so much saved but it all be for nothing because the frags I will get will be half of what I could have gotten under rankings. And I'm supposed to find with that? I'm supposed to suck it up and spend more?
No solar panels, no nanotubes. And pt requirements compared to the old ranking are more than doubled for less rewards.
Hero day was the easiest for me to keep track of. 6-8m pts got in top 1% 15 frags and decent rewards. Now it's 12m pts for only 14 frags no solar panels no nanotubes?

[wary prawn]

#📝game-suggestions

Slap this here as well. We know how ranking was loved and how players want it back.

[nova haven]

These rank rewards are absolute 💩

[high mauve]

The frame is kind of lame for being top 100. 5% troop hp. Do better PnS…

[honest cairn]

Its a waste since in the old system you could easily get 6-8 frags a day. Now its a pain

[pseudo glacier]

I personally do not care about frames and I do care about getting frags at the rate I got them prior to your new might event, period.

[honest cairn]

So screw Zeph and Phoenix. I only care for Lady M now

[brittle bane]

This is just another example of how devs ignore feedback and player input. I've lost more players and have so many frustrated with the game they over the changes to might week that they feel the game isn't worth it anymore. Everyone feels ignored because all feedback I've seen has said bring back the original rank rewards, not this sad attempt for a frame. People want to improve their heroes and the new system makes that basically a year long journey to get minimal progress.

[pseudo glacier]

We want frags not frames

[honest cairn]

Glad i got the twins on star last minute before the stupid change

[pseudo glacier]

I have 6 accounts needing twins and lady m🤦‍♀️

[honest cairn]

Oof...

Forget it...

Glad all my five accounts got the Lady

[pseudo glacier]

All are +7 where they will stay for another year

[honest cairn]

Just insane

Especially for the younger states. You just got the twins and this happens

[pseudo glacier]

I skip might week on most because rss used will not complete 11

It is sad that they want feedback but do not listen

[raven trench]

The new system is really bad, 2 frags or even 4 frags when we could win 6 to 8 before, and now you're giving us a framework with 5% HP for the 100 best... it's not surprising that more and more people stop playing given what you're doing. It's not motivating, personally I don't do the lady'm week anymore, it's really not worth it now

[quasi shell]

2 frags for Twins. Just do the min. Like building Leah from BL. Was getting 6 Twins frag for a bit more. I can't imagine anybody paying for the extras, so the motive is seemingly otherwise.

[pseudo glacier]

The people who are going to spend money for things like solar panels are going to do so without adding purchase options to might week also

[mellow vector]

the problem with this is that the cost involved to get the twins frags is higher than the cost of the requirements to get Leah frags

[hollow lily]

I absolutely agree with you on that kills. We really should still be able to get more frags for free though

[quasi shell]

Not really tho. Many BL events are a hard pass. All the off-week-might events are easily doable at the phase-10 level if you have boxes, pit, ruins, etc. For a few years, I passed on 1/2 of BL but did all these at 30% rank level (~2.5M points). My heroes are +8 for it.

[mellow vector]

and 2.5m points in the improve night events when they were a top 1000 ranking system wouldn’t have gotten you enough frags to +8 for a few years so the comparison ends at completion of phases, not the rankings

[brazen kite]

Glad to see new names on the topic, we need more people talking about it and the new 💩 ranks basically says, this is it so unless people get a lot more vocal nothing will change.

[honest cairn]

Problem is that sadly enough people still buy the damn two passes giving garbage rewards

[rotund lake]

Competing for something that's temporary is a hard no for me

[honest cairn]

I mean....just look at this 😂

Phase rewards are also trash

[hollow topaz]

I think the ranking rewards should be larger. I like the idea of making it possible for more people to earn shards, even at a cost, but i feel that the ranking rewards should be higher.

[dull patrol]

Then if they want to add that purchase option to off WK make it OPTIONAL, add it to the OLD RANKINGS SETUP, and make the rewards WORTH the absurd price point.

31m points to get 14 frags. That is INSANE and no way more achievable than attempting to stay in top 1% or 5% under old rankings.

[quasi shell]

They are. Phase 10/11 is all there is in these events now. That's it.

[honest cairn]

Same here

[dull patrol]

Impo the whole reason they went after off WK is because they were looking for a way to force people to spend. Shooters and off WK are the safest group to do so too.
I do not think even they would go after riders and Ace WK. Also the rewards for off WK were too good and they don't want people to build hqs without having to buy.

Right now I have 300 Joy Coins which would easily put me in at least the top 5% at worst top 10% which would be 10 or 8 frags. Now that nets me 6m pts and only 4 frags.

To get 31m pts you need 6,200 promoter II which is 3100 promoter II boxes

How is that reasonable in any way shape or form.

[dull matrix]

i feel like people always forget they have tried going after ace before lol

[dull patrol]

Have they? Well I have been here 2 years now so if they did it has not been during my play time.

[dull matrix]

but for some off reason they are being more stubborn about reputting off week back into place

[dull matrix]

yes and id like to not re see they screw with it again lol

ive been playing over 4 years ive seen some stuff lol

[dull patrol]

I'm sure. I just figured with the amount of rider heavy Asian alliances that Ace Wk had not been messed with. Neither WK need to be messed with any way shape or form. Anything that restricts access to heros that are required for the most basic foundation of the game is insane.

[dull matrix]

we used to have a different order of ace week. they also tried adding spending too it as well it caused a majoy off balance. they definetly tried last 3 aces i think someone might have more details was pretty crazy

[dull patrol]

Like this causes a major off balance. I have cut back on my time major since all this has started and haven't even really paid attention to ace wk.

[dull matrix]

i do both weeks...well i do whatever lines with SD... diamond dayevery 4 weeks has been my clutch for keeping heros growing for improve might series

[dull patrol]

I am one of the unfortunate players that was half way to lady m +8 when all this crap hit. Twins are only +6 and Phoenix is still at +7.

[dull matrix]

i got lady m plus 8 right before the update im chilling with a plus 6 twins and phoenix

[dull patrol]

I got into the system of saving everything and opening upgrading on off WK showdown. Gave me the best rate of hero frags to RSS spent.

[dull patrol]

Ohhhh lucky you I'm at 252/500 and not happy about it at all

[dull matrix]

my whole system for past year is hoard-->open during SD kind of sucks we ask for ranking back due to losing alot of materials and they think this top 100 will bandaid everything its a joke

[dull patrol]

Yah I have skipped my opening spree for every off WK showdown since this started.
I just grab speed up quest, 176 bios, mystery shops, nano boxes, helps. But no gear, no heros no chip cube nothing.

[honest cairn]

Totally me

Secret shop is gold

[dull patrol]

I'm sitting on so much stuff. So many lair boxes, 4000 promoter II boxes all my hero stuff, 320 joy coins now, 160 bio schemes.

I'm not touching any of it until I know it won't be wasted.

[simple surge]

How many times are you going to tweak the "new" rankings system before you realise we just want the original back.

[sweet ridge]

It’s not. And I keep saying this kills the game. A new player can’t even grow anymore.

[dull patrol]

No they can't. And being a new player is hard. Even if you do land in a new alliance but are still completely new to the game there is so much info to take in, retain and remember. Early mistakes are made with what to save, open etc etc picking troops type. Now with these rewards mistakes by new players is costly cause there is no room for error and the rewards are terrible and attaining heroes is almost impossible now. No one is going to pick shooter and the number of fighters will drop as well. Which does benefit the rider heavy presence this game has.

[errant flower]

I have only been playing for a year and many players who have played longer comment about how much harder it is to grow heros, it seems like even in the year I have been playing it's gotten more difficult with Leah, Lady M, Zephyr, Phoenix, The Twins

[errant flower]

However Wali has been easy to get to +8 if you focus effort on Ace

[cyan thicket]

I think they massively over estimate how much we care about frames. Absolutely 0 incentive to rank. Tbh I didn't even realise they reintroduced rank rewards to these events until I saw this update on discord
I already have all the ace and might week heroes to +8. Leah too. They need to introduce new heroes for those events, and give us more for break loose. And not just passive troop skills on them.
At the moment I have no interest in completing events, the hero specialties to consume excess frags is not inspiring at all

[dull matrix]

is it bad id still prefer to go back to ranking top 1k over whatever is happening currently for off week?

[high mauve]

Get more frags…

[dull matrix]

Yep...

[brazen kite]

Anyone ever go back and read the original pre-release announcement? 🤮

[torn ore]

No reason to go back. We’re living it lol

[high mauve]

And the survey said it was an overwhelming success 😂

[torn ore]

I’m not even sure I’ve ever seen anyone in my alliance buy the second column

[brazen kite]

It neither improved nor increased my rewards, quite the opposite

[dull patrol]

I had forgotten it's been going on since July ughhhhhh.

No this has done nothing except fully cut off my spending. The only thing I have bought since July is the 1.99 dog sticker.

But hey good on you PNS drive away moderate to light spenders. I have other hobbies give me more money to throw at pokemon and one piece cards and other collectables. Ya know things that I can actually hold and won't one day go poof based on the whims of poor decisions makers.

[bright sequoia]

I appreciate PNS making me bitter enough to stop spending. My jeep project is progressing much quicker now 😂

[brazen kite]

Did you see the new Monkey D Luffy question in Fox quiz? 😂

[dull patrol]

That's fantastic for you. And yah it has I have been able to put some more money away for my jeep restoration project too so I guess go ahead PNS keep being dumb😂

[dull patrol]

Really??? No I haven't gotten it yet I still keep getting the same old same old 😂

[brazen kite]

Saw 2 or 3 new mixed with old between a few accounts but yeah lol, hopefully you get it soon

[dull patrol]

Well that will be interesting. I really don't remember seeing any new questions this last time but I'll have to keep my eye out now.

[silver solstice]

Soooo basically they're bringing back rankings to try and force us to spend because they think we're gonna be so desperate to rank? Smh

[split mica]

You dont need to rank per se, you just need a certain amount of points

Not that it makes it much better

[sweet ridge]

The ranking only gives bad rewards not frags, but the time events had a rank those were good but idk when they show up

[brazen kite]

#📝game-suggestions message

Lol 4 months, not weeks but I can't edit 😭

[pseudo glacier]

Oh no

There are so many suggestions to roll it back over there, yet pns ignores these and tries to put lipstick on a pig. We will not be satisfied until you roll it back to the original.

[brazen kite]

It sucks, the mods put it in their reports regularly but I don't know how to get them "PNS" to understand. It's like it casts this huge shadow over every day every other week, people are still bothered by it. It's one of those things that makes people say, "I can't be bothered", it discourages growth and ultimately increases the attrition rate. Some days i want to stomp my feet and scream like a toddler, it's just frustrating and I can't figure out if PNS simply doesn't give a damn or is completely clueless but it's feeling more and more like they don't give a damn.

[pseudo glacier]

Their goal is to make money by coming up with more ways to make people spend, sometimes it seems more important than the enjoyment of their players. There are people who are going to spend, and if that makes them happy then that is good, but I'm working class with bills to pay, do I spend sometimes, yes. But I can not spend all the time, let's please make this game enjoyable for all of your players

[umbral mantle]

As someone who ranked 2nd in gear day and in new dev day, nothing about the ranking rewards motivated me to defend the ranking or try to take first. A 5% troop frame and some small amount of g/c/m enhancers are meaningless to me

[sage shadow]

Now i only do the events first page, that gives me 4 frags, and thats it. To do all the way you have to spend too many resources. The ranking doesnt motivate me in any sense. The frame in my opinion looks good but its not worth it, its not a permanent one... I would also like to go back how it was. My heroes progress was faster with the old events. I'm just sad I couldnt make lora&jessie+8 while it was the old event, now i'm just struggling to get those 500 frags. 😑

[ruby sedge]

I ranked 30th yesterday and I only did so cos I was close to my upgrade and pushed a little. The end rewards were bs and not worth it and im looking at my poor Lady M and the twins and they starting to look really good at +7... lol
(I didn't buy the 2nd column either cos it was a bit much for some mod boxes and a few frags)

[ruby sedge]

I've never heard the term lipstick on a pig but thank you cos I'm adopting this lol

[pseudo glacier]

You're welcome

[quasi shell]

Event rewards, mecha parts, and holos seem to be drying up. They pushing a new medieval themed game (not pnc)?

[west goblet]

I only use permanent Frames, the second line is too expensive

[azure frigate]

No just no :/

[spare oasis]

Is there a break loose event break down?

[warm crystal]

#🗓regular-events message

this might be what you're looking for! 🙂

[spare oasis]

Yep thanks!

[cyan flame]

I think the heavy spenders ruin it for the those that can only spend a little bit here and there, imo if there were more ways to get event special items or even say a better chance when attacking zombies or lairs you’d see more happy engagement but instead we get all this monetized and shafting of the free players I get it some things are exclusive but more options to earn the same things while doing things free would be great

[nova haven]

Never gonna happen

[bright sequoia]

Sadly would not be very profitable so won’t happen

[high mauve]

Remember when the big bigs got hurt by revenge res. Then they took it away 😆.

The game devs and management seem to like their high paying players more than those that don’t pay much 🤷‍♂️

[azure frigate]

The sugary phantom event sucked

Another hero that is impossible to obtain and not worth the effort to

[torn ore]

Well easy to obtain. But hard to grow

[azure frigate]

You just got lucky with the diaries

[torn ore]

Even my farm got the hero. The diaries were easy to get in all the events they gave us

[dull matrix]

As f2p this was the best event series for unlocking a hero

[torn ore]

You only needed to get to 17 to unlock her

[azure frigate]

Maybe I am just cursed

[torn ore]

I think I was at 14 after the first event

[dull matrix]

All 4 of me got lilian and that rarely happens

[azure frigate]

They may deactivate the hero later so what is the point

[dull matrix]

It's not a collab

So incorrect

Optimoose and bumble are the only 2 that have that possibility of deactivation

[torn ore]

They have only done that to RE. And that was some issue they had with capcom

[azure frigate]

So only with the collab ones?

[dull matrix]

Yes

[azure frigate]

Okay good

[torn ore]

Will 2 months left wonder if we will still get another transformers

[dull matrix]

Said end of year so probably soon

[stiff thorn]

So I'm having a huge brain fart...can someone please remind me where to activate that sugary phantom avatar ? And yes, I ranked top 50 ...for the life of me I can't find it 🤣

[stiff thorn]

I respectfully disagree, I was able to get Lillian to double stars +7 ...got epic nano and she's my best hero right now. To me worth it 😊

[torn ore]

Commander screen. Press your commander picture

Then change avatar

[stiff thorn]

Oh gosh....how did I not see it 🤣🤣🤣thank you @torn ore

[azure frigate]

For f2p doubt it

[torn ore]

FTP I don’t think even +2

[brazen kite]

Didn't they get replaced with usable heros? Or am I thinking of a different set?

[dull matrix]

yes sembello, amelia, hanna and ginny replaced RE

i actually prefer their designs

[split root]

That's awesome you got to +7!

Nicely done!

😊

[stiff thorn]

Thank you 🥰

Great defense hero

[bright sequoia]

So the might week buffs for Valiant is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. They aughta fire who ever is coming up with these ideas. I want someone to love me half as much as the devs love a might week with terrible rewards.

[azure frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-south-park-loser-you-suck-angry-gif-21522247

Bruh this update sucks

Get rid of ittt

Boooooooo!!!!

Hey devs did you know that if you put out updates that upset players they will leave? 😱

Tic tock….

3-19-2027

3:45 est

Actually that time is too generous 🤣

[cobalt olive]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-touch-a-thing-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-dont-put-hands-on-anything-dont-touch-nothing-keep-perfectly-still-gif-21430791

🤣

[lean oak]

Have you seen the movie The Wolf of Wall Street? I imagine the devs of this game must be like the guys in that movie, running the company while baked on prescription pain meds and blow, because it is the only thing that explains some of the decisions they make. Plus the amount of revenue this game generates would allow them to act like it as well, right down to the midgets on a spinning dart board and the 'ladies', lol.

[prime smelt]

Understand the frustration over the updates but keep it civil pls #📚sanctuary-rules

[lean oak]

I meant that as funny haha, not funny mean. 🤣

You can delete my message if it is against any rules.

[prime smelt]

Could be interpreted either way. Just be careful 🙂

[azure frigate]

It is like when they tell you to not itch the scratch but do it anyway.

[brazen kite]

After the tragedy that off week continues to be months later, these 13 words are terrifying tbh

I seriously doubt the ability to actually understand players needs

[lean oak]

Seriously, it is like reading the opening lines to a horror novel at this point.

[azure frigate]

Scarier than Halloween!!!

[brazen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-scooby-doo-gif-2682703097173351184

[dull patrol]

The whole update can be summed up as them looking at what players have asked for and then doing the exact opposite.

And ok look another WK of off WK being absolutely terrible crap.

[torn ore]

I wouldn’t mind more prison and more rare earth levels

[lusty flume]

FTP makes you more difficult gameplay, I know what to do

[brazen kite]

Can we add more ruins levels to the wish list

[azure frigate]

The pit is overcrowded so yes new levels will be needed.

I would do the content creation thing but due to them ruining vc, they don’t deserve my knowledge of the game.

F2P is very difficult and the new “improvements” make this a lot harder. I been on that for the majority of my time playing. The only times I spent was to get researcher and builder gear.
I been around for about 5 years and since nano weapons were introduced was when things started going downhill.

Big corporations destroy anything they get their hands on smh.

[dull matrix]

May be difficult now but definitely finding ways round the annoying updates

[quasi shell]

I've asked for this a couple times in suggestions: stuff we have maxed like heroes, nova, UC, etc. Looking at a mecha stuck at lvl30 for months now and forever without parts/boxes again, too.

[torn ore]

Can’t really say they ruining VC without knowing what the changes even are. Let’s wait and see

[dull patrol]

Considering their past improvements, on events no one has complained about..............I don't see this one being any different from their past blunders.

[azure frigate]

I don’t have to wait and see to know, I just know it’s going to be a disaster.

[bold cape]

Gotta wait for patch notes 🤷‍♀️

[brazen kite]

I mean even a blind pig finds truffle occasionally. I don't have high expectations mind you but going to at least wait till it's live before assuming it's another miss... i just wish they had a better historical pattern with regards to spin vs reality.

[torn ore]

Always wait and see

[dull matrix]

I disagree with the wait and see

Especially after they screwed up off week id rather jump to conclusions as well something is gonna not be good about it

[bold cape]

Expectations aside, as long as this doesn’t turn into a rampart chat of speculations.. all good

[dull matrix]

Oh I had no speculation just preparation for the worst after ummm off week🤣

[bold cape]

Been playing 5 myself and remember how impossible it used to be to get frags for Leah before changes

Plus losing rss in Nuka, res etc.

[torn ore]

Last time we had a valiant conquest change, historically speaking, They gave us more states and more rewards

[azure frigate]

Oooh I remember that very clearly

[torn ore]

Top 500 for Leah frags. lol. And 1000 for off week.

[bold cape]

Yup

[torn ore]

I neglected Leah

[azure frigate]

I rarely can rank in those events

If you complete the event you get 2

[dull matrix]

Break loose is only good to finish the phases and give up

I hope we get better bl weeks soon some of em been annoying

[azure frigate]

My Leah is more than halfway to +4

[dull matrix]

I'm on the climb to plus 8 it is taking ages

Maybe 2 more years

[azure frigate]

Oh yeah I forgot that it takes 500 of them to +8

Nooooo ;-;

[dull matrix]

I'm only in the 300s🤣 it's really the worst climb and I thought plus 6 was bad lol

[high mauve]

You can get a max of 18 frags a weekend. So quickest for you will be 11 ish weeks. If you average 10 a weened then it will be 20 weeks.

For me it helped when my ace heroes and might week had its “upgrade”. I could focus solely on Leah frags.

[dull matrix]

Right now I'm averaging 4-6 frags a week with how bad break loose has been I've been trying to up it on good weeks

Not working well

[brazen kite]

And made it so in state hits aren't permanent, that was a good change

[torn ore]

That’s a good thing

[brazen kite]

A few months before the change we had one in the wrong place at the wrong time and got zeroed during a group hunt, poor guy went from being Underwater Noodle to evaporated noodle almost instantly. Was very happy with that change.

[prime smelt]

VC with real death, those were the days

brutal

[high mauve]

Stupid purges…

Let’s kill 2 mil t9/10s for 2 mil food

[rugged hazel]

So many folks with red/yellow color blindness, those were the days lol

[prime smelt]

I must’ve lost at least 1m T9 😂

If not more

[rugged hazel]

totally!

[prime smelt]

Growth was hard those days

People have no idea how good they have it now

[torn ore]

One time a state guy burned my farm. Killed all my troops. Gave me 20m food to help recover

But he wouldn’t give it to my farm. Had to go to my main

[queen onyx]

A while ago I would have zeroed someone and said "oops", but retirement has me just going for them kill points now.

There were a few in state players with questionable messaging history that I likely would have zeroed in my prime.

[torn ore]

Retirement?

[queen onyx]

My, my retirement state. We sit back and eat caramels while watching movies.

[crystal dune]

Transferring that would make me stabby. Even with a high transport allowance 😂

[high mauve]

That’ll be fun for some

[full atlas]

Encore une merde🤣

[torn ore]

Exciting

[split root]

That was a good change, for sure!

I'm glad my state didn't really go for the purge thing.

They talked about it, but never did it much before the leadership of the state decided to ban it.

[split root]

For sure! I'm trying to get to +8 too.

A little less than 400 frags left to go.

😜

[left anchor]

If we stop this absurdity of 5+ speedup break loose in the same week, we could go a little faster 😤

And it's not hard to prevent same type of BL to happen more than 2 or 3 times in the same week 😢

[fickle bough]

The frame is not worth chasing. The benchmarks in off week are not worth reaching. My zephyr is dying 🙃

[prime smelt]

Give it mouth to mouth?

[fickle bough]

That's for Scarlett 😂😂

[prime smelt]

Getting through that metal helmet might be hard

[patent urchin]

What exactly is a "pre battle" phase of valiant conquest? Please don't tell me that they are taking the last thing in this game i enjoy and are breaking it....

[cinder crescent]

Ulti 279 is fckn crazy. Dont know how to do

[bright sequoia]

Luckily they didn’t make any appealing cosmetics with the prison theme so I don’t need to worry about the pre battle phase 😂

[paper ice]

You dont want the ride on lawnmower?

[bright sequoia]

I’m not from West Virginia 😂 the methy decor doesn’t appeal

[paper ice]

Why west virginia?!🤣 what did that state do to you tc?

[bright sequoia]

You should see how much they charge in tolls to drive on the one decent road in the whole state

[paper ice]

They probably gotta pay for all their ride on mowers

With the built in leafblower on the side

[bright sequoia]

To many DUI’s so the Toro is the only option for getting them smokes and 40s

[paper ice]

🤣🤣

[high mauve]

Figured you’d get Marcus’s dom suit

[paper ice]

[high mauve]

He may not want it since it does have a Wolfenstein enemy theme to it…

[paper ice]

🤣🤣

[wispy oriole]

hi WLR

[azure valve]

I've seen people drive to the store on tractors and riding mowers in Florida where I live so it's not just West Virginia

[bright sequoia]

Don’t besmirch my home state ! We have enough weirdos 😂

[azure valve]

I live here too

I can besmirch all I want

[bright sequoia]

Fair enough I live in NC and in the mountains all bets are off 😂

[azure valve]

But they're so pretty

[bright sequoia]

I prefer flat land thank you very much

[paper ice]

I recommend nebraska

Flat

[bright sequoia]

Snow

[paper ice]

[high mauve]

Oklahoma…

[bold cape]

😈 😈 not far from me

[queen onyx]

What is snow? All I have is grass, sand, and buildings.

[paper ice]

I can show you!

[high mauve]

What you can eat during the winter months if you spend too much on doom…

[torn ore]

Hopefully with new rare earth I can move up lol

[azure valve]

I much prefer mountains

[azure valve]

I think he's basically saying he wants to come back to Florida

[bright sequoia]

He is

NC is flat where I live but it snows sometimes and that’s to close to death for me 🦆

[queen onyx]

I beat lv. 10 pit but the people in lv. 10 pit make me stay in 9.

[subtle wolf]

So this upcoming tundra Tourney? Only the top 729 alliances across all servers are allowed to compete?

[warm crystal]

Yes, that is correct

[dull patrol]

So another update that removes a mostly even playing field from the only event left that offered a mostly even playing field.
Valiant before everyone starts the same and you can all pretty much do your own thing based on your schedule and HQ lvl.
Now you have a whole week of stress for a one day even and your performance sorry your SPENDING LEVEL and STATE SIZE determines if you get good valiant and RSS opportunities or absolutely nothing. Last place state has to wait 30 MINUTES????? There's hardly anything left after 30 minutes.

Who the hell is coming up with this crap.

Oh wait the morons trying to figure out how to force spending and give more handouts to big spenders

[bright sequoia]

All this effort to make people spend on might week because the new format is a flop everyone knows not to spend on. Mabye recognize that the old format was better and don’t ruin other events with Time locks to force people to spend on it,

[high mauve]

I’m still not doing might week

[dull patrol]

Same I have continued to boycott. Which also means I have not upgraded anything so my HQ is currently a waste of space cause I am offering no growth for my alliance.

[high mauve]

I just upgrade how I see fit and don’t give two figs about the might week events 😂. If they match up, cool I get a few points.

Definitely haven’t wasted speedups on might week for might week.

[dull patrol]

I wish I could do that. But I don't have lady m, phoenix or the twins +8.

[novel geyser]

Ok, so let me understand this change to Valiant. Players have complained, repeatedly, that’s changes keep being made that disadvantage smaller players and states and the developers have opted to put out yet another change that does exactly that. They’re fast to reassure everyone the rewards don’t change but the reality of it is, they do. It will now be harder for thousands of players to earn the personal and alliance rewards. Giving stats buffs is interesting and not necessarily a bad idea. Preventing players from playing, is. What’s the point of even playing the game if you can’t do the events?

[dull patrol]

They just literally want to weed out anyone that doesn't spend or whose state is smaller.

This literally puts on massive target on the backs of states that don't put out the money they want. Who knows what they try next with that data. Ways to cull states that don't perform

[quasi shell]

VC has always been the best event. Does anyone know what 5-day pre-event entails? How you or your State get points, etc.? Placing 1st would be great; 2nd OK,; 3rd not good; 4th/5th forget about it.

[lean oak]

What I find funny/ironic about this, is that players have asked for years to have rotating or some kind of varying start times to VC and WK so that they aren't always favorable to the same time zones. Always excuses or reasons why it won't ever happen. Yet here we are, the devs decide that as a perk some states now get to start VC sooner than other states, lol.

[high mauve]

All we know is this. It says personal points count towards state point. Prolly similar to the pre doom events.
#📄bulletin-notes message

[novel geyser]

I was assuming it was basically like the old state ranking, your points in might week event go toward the state total.

[paper ice]

This is why I sleep in every valiant, and most times just wake up on fire

[quasi shell]

Ok. Probably State points in Hero event, New Development, etc

[high mauve]

Says Monday through Friday…

[quasi shell]

As master of obvious: this will change whole dynamic of start. Instead of freeforall with folks flying out all over to hunt, what will 4/5 of states' starters do? Hunt invaders.

[gusty fable]

They won’t be able to because they are already the weakest and now they’re even weaker. Soon enough, there will be an item to purchase to break shields. Calling it now

[dull patrol]

And then a special shield that can only be bought to resist this new shield breaker.

[high mauve]

And get stuck with war frenzy if they try to defend

[brazen kite]

Shall we define your? Cause maybe it should say our whale's needs instead of your?

[stray seal]

So if I’m reading this correctly, you’re going to penalize whole states with a delayed start?!?

This is the worst idea I have ever seen!!!

Are you kidding me?!?!?! The first 30 minutes of VC are instrumental for players to collect the necessary resources they need to upgrade and now you’re putting a gag order on them?

Is the goal to make people walk away from the game?

#📄bulletin-notes message

Even if a state does the best might week ever they could still be penalized based on who they are matched with!!!!

And I have been told that people wanted this. They asked for this?!??! Who?!?! Who are the people!?!?!

Because I can guarantee you that nobody that I have talked to about the proposed changes for my week ever said that they wanted something like this.

[bold cape]

I don’t get up everrr

[stray seal]

VC and WK start at 1am or 0100 for me! I literally get NO sleep on WK weekends. But I can at least play for an hour in VC and then go to bed.

But gagging states for not doing well in one event is NOT the way to make it ”More Enjoyable” for everyone.

[paper ice]

I mean, fair, im not arguing with ya lol
I know people arent going to like it at all

Tbh I agree, but it doesnt effect me cause I dont vc usually anyway lol

[bold cape]

I find my best loot towards the end
I just don’t get up for vc ever at the start since I get up for wk

[stray seal]

That’s why we love ya!

[bold cape]

She’s mine !

[paper ice]

[stray seal]

Not if I can steal her!

[bold cape]

[paper ice]

[bold cape]

[stray seal]

😘

I will take a farm.

[bold cape]

I wanted shorter rallies or shorter frenzy…

[stray seal]

I’m good with a Lil Rage!

[paper ice]

I actually burned my one farm and haven't logged into it in a month

[bold cape]

Ohh I need to shield the lily’s

Lils

[exotic furnace]

This completely!! Not an ideal solution, but even having it rotate by 6 hours would be nice to help accommodate everyone. 5:00am start time for me currently with time change, which I find sucks, but I know it's earlier for others. Something like 5:00am, 11:00am, 5:00pm, 11:00pm would accommodate more of the world?

I'm using eastern time, because it's what I know. Lol

[dull matrix]

I don't do vc I bubble and sit unshielded. I'm too lazy for VC. 😂 I personally don't mind start time cause we get the decent reset time👀 this feels like they are tryna do whatever they can to make us do off week😂 no thanks

Revert off week and then I'll do off week

[exotic furnace]

I normally wait until around lunchtime to participate in VC; I need coffee before I do anything. Lol. Last VC, I found an account with 1b food open; I have enough food for all of the pre-requisites I need for HQ38 now, just need the freakin nanotubes.

[dull matrix]

Ooooooo. Yea personally when I used to raid for rss I could go later in the day and still get rss. Start isn't the only time

[novel geyser]

Some of you may remember from the might week changes that we encouraged people to upvote suggestions, this time is no different. There are quite a few up, including this one #📝game-suggestions message. You know what to do!

[novel geyser]

We also suggested another way to offer the buffs, which aren't necessarily a bad idea. They're just not fairly applied. #📝game-suggestions message

[azure valve]

Can I borrow her?

[azure valve]

I like your suggestion

[azure frigate]

Hey PNS…

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-last-wish-death-whistle-hood-gif-9893935255528933629

[torn ore]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-maddie-gif-496156557473884277

[modest wagon]

[modest atlas]

This is a massive kick in the face to a lot of players. Not everyone likes valiant, but for a large number of players its the event we look forward to. In my opinion its the best event in the game. For the regular participants it is imperative to be online and able to jump states at the start to maximise kills. For the states that do not spend to be penalised by missing the start is an ABSOLUTE JOKE. when I read this i thought i had gone back in time to the 1st of april!. I know that we dont have a great deal of penders in my state, and for that reason I cant see us getting rank 1 very often if ever. Which means I will miss the best part of valiant from now on, If I cant do avliant any more I dont really see what the game now offers me, I have been a loyal player for 5 years. I dont spend big, never have but I do spend monthly. If my ability to participate in valiant as I always have is taken away, I think my passion for the game will also be taken away. It kina has already just from this announcement. If this plan goes forward in the way I have read and understood the announcemnet, this could well be the end of my gaming time in PNS. Which I am pretty sad about if I am honest. And I am quite sure that there will be a great number of people who feel the same way. To me, this just looks again like a money grab tactic while screwing over the smaller players. When will the devs understand that all the smaller amounts of money that the smaller players spend add up, and by losing the smaller players they in turn lose revenue. I just cannot understand the business plan. All the changes recently seem to alienate the smaller players, which causes them to quit, which results in less revenue for the Devs. If thats the plan then GOOD JOB DEVS.

If you havent noticed. I for one am really not happy about this proposed change, and I am sure there are many others out there that feel the same way. This is such a big change to one of the biggest and most popular events in game. I just cannot see how this is going to be a positive change, and could be the beggining of the end for a lot of loyal players. I am almost lost for words, (clearly not judging by the essay I just wrote). Please DEVS, reconsider, this is by far one of the worst proposed changes I have seen in my 5 years of playing!

[hollow flicker]

Apart from the fact that they of course want it to earn them extra money I am completely baffled by these proposals:
I do not believe anyone has ever asked for anything like this
Why are extra buffs needed? You are as strong as you are. Find players on your level or weaker to hit. Unlike doomsday the match ups are generally pretty good to allow for this.
A delayed start, as has been said many times, will simply penalise states who don’t have massive spenders.
Ok some personal kind of rewards if they really must - join or don’t - just as long as it doesn’t prevent a fair valiant
For many it is the best event. They have messed up so many others! Please reconsider this and just leave it alone - I am sure the vast, vast majority would be happy if no changes were implemented

[novel geyser]

There are quite a few suggestions asking for this change to not happen and I worked up something that spreads the buffs out in a way that’s fairer than what’s proposed. #📝game-suggestions message

And this one #📝game-suggestions message

We’re asking that there not be a time delay at all.

As we saw with might week, if they want to change an event they’re going to change it. What we can do is find ways to improve the changes.

It’s very important that a wide range of players speak up here or message CS. If we add constructive changes, we can get improvements to what they’re trying to do.

[torn ore]

More speakers and contributors the better

[brazen plume]

It feels like the push is to have mega alliances instead of developing and building alliances. I do not care for this approach. I understand top players need specific ways to keep them engaged and interested. But you are demoralizing your “6th man on the team” and making it impossible for them to benefit snd jump. Tundra tournament was a great way to take bigs out of the mix and skim the top. Remainders get to stretch and be bigs while tops are occupied. Do more like that please.

[violet wadi]

I can’t agree with your comments enough❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[autumn geyser]

from what im reading, it seems like ALOT of players complained about valiant conquest and now changes are being implemented. if people didnt complain, it wouldnt have changed.

i dont even come on discord much. i have had no problem with valiant conquest and now changes are being made by dissatisfied players rather than ALL of the players in pns who mostly dont come to complain.

[autumn geyser]

please dont put such an idea in their heads, they will do it and make it worse for everyone.

[autumn geyser]

you guys know how we now have the alliance bulletin with the option for a poll? pns should send a worldwide poll that lasts a month instead of asking here since discord probably only has 1/1,000,000 players that actually read what is going on or even gets on discord.

[rustic pivot]

Discord is definitely not the best option for polling these changes. There are a lot of areas where discord is not allowed, or so I have been told by many players.

That being said, I am opposed to these changes. This is certainly aimed to benefit the players that spend a ton of money. I spend on average of $50 ( US ) a week and by no means have the money to keep up with others. The vast money being spent is one way the game has become unbalanced. Huge players are choking out the small players in the game already. The disparity is palpable and there is no chance for growth when they are constantly outmatched. It is seen in every state, empty HQs and entire alliances litter the landscape, because they simply quit playing.

If you want to make positive changes and make your player base happy, fix things like Water Wars matchmaking. I used to enjoy going and battling it out for positions, but lately, my alliance, which has 1 player over 1 billion might, has been matched against alliances with atleast 5 . We get a NAP agreement and then just sit in our NAP buildings because we can't even attempt to compete.

Try helping the entire player base instead of the 2% that spend tons of money. I have seen way to many games destroyed by wallet warriors and the devs don't make any attempt to keep the balance.

[mint agate]

The new rule pertaining to VC I think will be a good thing. I think it can even out the advantages of Demi gods and the others we have a chance to get in to battle and ultimately receive resources

[rustic pivot]

It will actually make it worse. The big money players are the only ones who will benefit. This will end up causing more people to quit playing.

[novel geyser]

So some players get the full event while others get less, and don’t even get good buffs just because their state doesn’t spend is ok? What about players who have limited time to play and get up just to play and they may not be able to do that now? What’s left when all the big olayers have already wiped everything in 30 minutes? You get a lousy 10% gather boost and have to spend hours trying to get points. If players can’t get enough points their alliance points suffer so will they even be able to get all of those rewards?

[mint agate]

It would depend on the state’s unity from what I read

[novel geyser]

Y’all are also forgetting the individual and alliance rewards. The devs have said those won’t change but if they’re harder to earn, then they effectively do change.

[mint agate]

It’s based on 3-4 states in each ranking so if your state is united and work together then you have a good chance of getting in first

[novel geyser]

We don’t have this information yet but I suspect it will be some sort of return of the state ranking system so your state’s performance on events during might week determines your ranking for VC. If that’s the case, the most active states and those that spend will benefit the most. The average player or those speaking up for them are exhausted by this.

[novel geyser]

No they don’t. It’s highly likely that spending will skew this. If your state isn’t a big spending state, you’re likely going to be out of luck.

[rustic pivot]

If they want to balance the game, entice people to be active, and new people to join and continue playing, they need to create a more balanced platform across all events.

[dull matrix]

5 states

So that leaves 2 states starting 30 minutes later able to do stuff for VC there should not be a staggered time

[azure valve]

United means very little when you're up against a state with one spender who can drop more than your entire state

[mint agate]

I will re evaluate the full message I always welcome new ideas.

[azure valve]

My state is very united and we have a fair number of spenders but we frequently get matched with states that have much bigger pockets

[mint agate]

That I will not disagree with I have seen what your talking about in the past

[novel geyser]

If the events to determine ranking were skill based and had no purchase element then that would be fairer, but that’s honestly quite unlikely.

[mint agate]

Ps we are always looking for active players and alliances

[azure valve]

#✅alliances-seeking-players You can post here for recruiting purposes 😁

[dull matrix]

With knowing the fact they screwed up improve might series and seems they are trying to push this week... I dont think anything will be very pleasant bout this change

[novel geyser]

Cutting the time and giving all the best buffs to the top ranking state isn’t fair to all players. The suggestion I posted spreads out some of the buffs so that every state gets something more than what the devs offered.

[novel geyser]

Yeah, that’s the assumption a lot of us are working with. Based on what’s already been released, I don’t think we’re wrong.

[azure valve]

It's a good suggestion

[novel geyser]

Thank you! I did that instead of working. 🤣

[azure valve]

lol

[novel geyser]

I was trying to type emails while my brain was like well what if…..

[dull matrix]

And when you think back to when they announced improve might changes we all knew that was bad too

[novel geyser]

Yeah and it took us months to even get it partially fixed. It’s still not fully fixed but people didn’t want to speak up so it was the same handful of people and it’s hard to keep that up without help.

[dull matrix]

Yep which is part of the reason I slowly started adapting to the changes and finding work arounds. Not enough helping cause it didn't affect em

[dull patrol]

Yes unfortunately is was the same handful of people being vocal.
I also 100% agree that they are solely implementing this change to force participation in off week and to try and force the purchase of the packs attached to it. Hoping that the state alliances peer pressure each other to spend.

[delicate jacinth]

I hate the changes to valiant. Stop fixing things and events that are not broken and start fixing the things that need to be fixed. It's fair that everybody starts at the same time they have the same chance to go out there and hustle and get what they want to get. People in the US are waking up in the middle of the night to be able to do this already, why make it even more unfair and lopsided? All they're going to accomplish is make it to where less people want to do this event at all.

[vestal flax]

Are the ones who do not bubble up and score high still going to count on vc day when they get attacked or would that still be considered defense when they lose 5 mil troops? I prepare and others do too I'm sure for vc a few days prior with upgrades and things. VC is my favorite event, but hate when people won't bubble then win no 1. I am hoping maybe at least receiving prep pts towards it could reduce that? Unless I misunderstood the entire thing... possible.

[rocky birch]

So here are my questions.

1. Is vc prep week being held in a different battle field like dd?
2. If yes, do we get our troops back hourly, daily or have no troops until prep week is over?
3. If not a separate battle field that means we need to bubble for a whole week?
4. During prep week are our rss up for grabs like it is During regular vc day?

[brittle totem]

VC is my favorite event and they are out to ruin it all in the name of additional profits. I understand this is a for profit business but when everything in the game becomes about money it becomes counter productive. The changes to Might Week already slowed growth for the majority and this change is set to do the same. The average players are feeling alienated and interest and excitement for the game is waning. I personally think they are better served by focusing on the majority and going for a high volume of small spenders than just focusing on the big spenders. The big spenders are going to spend regardless. Let's stop these types of changes and focus on enhancements that improve game play for everyone.

[azure valve]

It's not a battle. It's how your state ranks in off week events.

[rocky birch]

Ty

[kindred rune]

You know what's crazy, I've read back for the last hour and all I have seen is people damn near begging you to not change VC.
The horrible part? Every single time you have done one of these "feedback chats" people exclusively hate the changes and then you just do it anyway. What's the point in even asking if you clearly don't care in the first place?

Its a terrible idea, whoever came up with it on your team should be fired. Every single time you make changes like this you lose players. Eventually you will completely kill the game and then what? If no one is left to play it what profit are you getting? Your marketing team is a literal joke and they should all be ashamed of themselves for being so blatantly short-minded.

[bold cape]

The point is to collect feedback for our weekly mod reports

Devs don’t read discord

We compile it into our reports

[kindred rune]

Oh so its literally a waste of time. Neat.

[torn ore]

Not a waste of time.

[bold cape]

That’s your opinion

[torn ore]

The devs do read our reports atleast

[kindred rune]

If it changes absolutely nothing, and they do these dumb things anyway, then it is literally, factually a waste of time. Not an opinion.

[bold cape]

🤷‍♀️

[torn ore]

Like she said. That’s your opinion. We’re not here to debate negativity. We’re here to discuss the issue so we can write reports and relay the information

[azure frigate]

As a wise man once said: “if it is not broken don’t fix it.”

[azure frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-cat-waving-wave-paw-gif-11249423921160715390

Here is my opinion for your reports mods and I will try to keep it as PG as possible. So yes these changes to vc are absolutely garbage and very unnecessary. This is just going to make another boycott happen and I have my popcorn ready. Anyway here are my problems with the so called “improved” events:

1. off week: the rewards are not worth getting all of those points. The packs are very stupid like who is even buying them?

2. Tundra/tundra tournament: scrap this event completely and bring back res tournament.

3. I been noticing more and more events that only buying packs gets you prizes, apparently people like them?

4. VC: get rid of those changes and leave it alone!

I am not done yet just the beginning…

If you want more just ask me questions I will answer.

Oh yeah for now there are too many events happening at once.

The only recent update I liked was adding extra levels to the pit. I won’t go to them but it gives a better place for the whales to go and give more players a chance to gather.

[novel geyser]

We tried to get better packs or pricing for them because they’re not going to get rid of them but if they were of better value then they wouldn’t be such a slap in the face.

[azure frigate]

I should’ve added that detail lol

[novel geyser]

I personally don’t mind adding in opportunities to purchase additional items if they offer a real value and are not a requirement to complete the standard events. I think holiday events have gotten to be too much of a money grab, though. We used to be able to get nameplate and frames for free or cheap with some activity and now they’re locking them behind paywalls. If it’s not a collab, it should be available to the more players. I get collabs costing more but anything like the anniversary events? No.

[azure frigate]

Strangely I noticed that these recent updates caused this server to look like a ghost town as well, clearly shows that a lot of people left the game. If I quit I would lurk around for a bit then disappear.

[novel geyser]

I’m only playing until my friends quit at this point. I’ve already slowed spending considerably and have stopped spreading my accounts around to be able to play with all my friends.

[torn ore]

I just wrote it in the report for you

[azure frigate]

Yeah when all my friends go, I go

[azure frigate]

Cool

I consider you a friend Kaz 😂

[azure frigate]

I am pretty much done moving

Tickets cost too much and very annoying

[lunar jetty]

So having been so bitterly disappointed at recent 'improvements', I am concerned that this 'improvement' to VC may in fact actually be terrible. There's not any detail (that I've seen) as to how states earn these points to get what is effectively a head start in VC. I honestly just don't really see the point in it.

[azure frigate]

There is no point

[high mauve]

Only logical sense is might week changes failed, and to show they weren’t wrong having a daily pay to play section, they will try and force folks to buy more stuff. Thus you have the “privilege” to play earlier and have more boosts for a fan favorite event if you spend more money on an event that is not great.

[azure frigate]

Puzzles and survival? More like pay to survive!

[azure frigate]

Like the prisoner event thing, you have to pay money to get the commander skin.

[dull patrol]

This. They are deciding that instead of acknowledging they were wrong, apologizing about the off week changes and rolling it back, that this is the hill to die on. So instead they RUIN another event in order to force participation for off WK by making your success in valiant tied to off week participation. And then also hoping to stoke conflict between alliance in a state who are upset at those who can't/won't/don't want to spend, breaking states and then also identifying which states don't align wit their spending goals.

[high mauve]

Commander skins always cost. Games always been no adds for pay to win. Just some of the changes that they tell us are for player benefit, don’t seem to benefit the player 😂

[high mauve]

In my uneducated opinion they’re trying to get folks to move states.

Costs less to have servers gone than maintaining for an alliance or two

[patent urchin]

I just spent about an hour back reading this section and I would like to take the opportunity to thank our mods for the effort the put forth into giving us any real voice with the devs. Keep up the great work guys.

[torn ore]

[bold cape]

It’s a pure business move, you see what you can get away with, then adjust to “please” the customers and their opinion.
Can’t blame them, makes a lot of work for mods though 😂 for volunteer work

Google Prada safety pin 😂

If business can get away with selling a brass safety pin for $650 why would they sell it for$1?

[dull patrol]

Ah yes the good ol corporate business practice. Get blood from a stone and sell the person their own shirt.
A actual good practice that I couldn't actually blame them for would be to actually build something with the players in mind....but I guess the thought process that being generous in their events, rewards, with march skins frames, improving odds of nano crafts, and odds of pulling perfects in times etc would actually encourage spending and loyalty of the community. But no forcing spending and stripping rewards seems to work well, so why be generous.

But I don't spend anymore, and if anymore of my close friends quit I'm gone and this will be my one and only lapse in judgement mobile game.

[bold cape]

Devs are not players

What looks good “on paper” rarely translates into some beneficial

[dull patrol]

Yah I'm not touching that defence for this insanity they are pulling.

[bold cape]

I compared my logs from last vc when I was actually up at the start
And still got 75% of my kills and rss after reset

Why I sleep in

Best loots always have been late after reset for months now

[bold cape]

Not defending it, just looking from a different perspective

[torn ore]

So, will we know the 5 states before VC

[dull patrol]

Yah and I'll finish by saying that none of these even looked good on paper.

And when anyone personally find their best loot doesn't change the fact that states will be punished by a time delay based on state spending levels, and that they are trying to force off WK participation.

[bold cape]

15 minutes frenzy, plus rally time, that’s 1 state to hit

Then hives use ally shield, it’s a waste to get up for me and most of my alliance tbh

Most rein for points or we hunt later and throughout the day

Now, reduced frenzy time or reduced rally time, that would be an incentive to actually compete in the might week

Delay and gathering boosts…not going to make me invest in off week

[torn ore]

We need to be very precise when we ask for stuff. Not just “change vc”

[bold cape]

Scrap the delay boosts

[torn ore]

Need to say “add 1 min rally”

[bold cape]

1 minute rallies 🔥 🔥 🔥

[dull patrol]

One thing that I know players have been very precise about asking for is to rotate start times so that different time zones can get a benefit.

[torn ore]

That’s probably never going to happen

[bold cape]

Aye, 3am is awful

[high mauve]

Don’t know how you play game on mst. When I have to be in Idaho falls, it kills me.

[dull patrol]

That's never happened though.
Players were very specific about wanting off week rolled back, we were also very very very specific about what pt requirements they needed to lower the new format too if they were really that desperate to keep it. That didn't happen either.