psyker-class

[flint pawn]

👍

On a different note, I genuinely didn't know Surge staff actually did ok damage to Monstrosities until today lol

I frequent Auric Damnation and never once thought to actually try it and see, whoops

[supple dock]

yeah surge is pretty solid

like you won't get first place

but you'll be in second or third

[plucky flax]

I always get first place.

Even in monster maelstrom. 196k monster damage with surge.

[ripe obsidian]

Jeez, did this patch add way more gunners and shooters? Feels like every match is just a firefight for 20-30 minutes

[supple dock]

there's no way you get this without playing with people who have 2 left thumbs wtf

i believe you but damn

[radiant frigate]

pondering a return to gunner/bomber/flamer resist

[supple dock]

i think corruption resist on psyker is really underrated

[radiant frigate]

i am currently running that actually

gunner toughness corruption

[supple dock]

mmhm. cause corruption is a flat amount, not a percentage

and since we have like 165 hp...

2 bursters is enough to kill kill you

lmao

[plucky flax]

That's why you run hp.

[analog agate]

Yeah, maybe I notice it more because new map is gunner heavy. But old maps also feel like more gunners

[radiant frigate]

triple hp, triple hp/toughness/corruption

become B E E F Y

[plucky flax]

Sorry I lied it was only 186k

[marble crater]

Fraud

[plucky flax]

256 smol shooters killed.

[radiant frigate]

is that surge smite

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I just did an assassination and every single hallway was full of bullets

[plucky flax]

My surge build so it has smite yes. Though I don't use smite.

Maybe smite once every 3 games.

[supple dock]

bruh everyone in this match except for you definitely had 2 left thumbs lmao

it's still impressive

but the fact that you did so much damage says more about the team

[plucky flax]

EU pub players are built different.

[marble crater]

Hey!

[upper sun]

hero

[upper sun]

2x gunner 1x bomber

I keep getting shreded by a single fucking gunner

[radiant frigate]

triple or nothing

[upper sun]

i need the bomber resist on psyker tho

[radiant frigate]

that is to say, triple

[upper sun]

most of our move speed is from talents

and the bomber slow hurts esp hard on psyker

[haughty plank]

Is this any good on psyker?

[upper sun]

idk if its good in general

[opaque tulip]

Looks good to me but I’m also not a meta person

[upper sun]

impact isnt super useful on psyker

[opaque tulip]

I’m blind to the meta

[haughty plank]

I never used a catachan sword

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[haughty plank]

Any of you used it in the past? I'm all for force swords, this is a first time pick

[upper sun]

savage sweep is good unyielding you can live with

[plucky flax]

Blessings you want are rampage/shred/savage sweep/the other cleave blessing.

[upper sun]

id trade infested for flak and slice for rampage?

[plucky flax]

Depend on if you need the cleave or not. If not go rampage shred for more damage.

But illisi is so OP if you want horde clear sword.

[upper sun]

savage sweep rampage clear is on par with purge

gets kinda stupid

[haughty plank]

I was trying animations and it has a weird animation combo

[analog agate]

Is uncanny just overall better on illisi over unstable power now?

[haughty plank]

To clear i have to alternate light and heavy constantly

[upper sun]

yeah thats normal

i think the clear for it is L1H2?

[haughty plank]

Yea I am seeing it now

[plucky flax]

I don't run uncanny nor unstable on illisi.

[upper sun]

the vet guide has the clear combo for all dclaws

[haughty plank]

It is shit against armor

[analog agate]

Yeah. But I position myself where I don’t need deflector

[plucky flax]

You are too good. 😭

[analog agate]

Soooo good

[haughty plank]

Where did you take this?!

[upper sun]

vet guide

[haughty plank]

From where

[upper sun]

its pinned in #veteran-class

its really good

[restive ice]

it’s getting an update soon

[upper sun]

57 pages and the author is like 1/4th way done

[haughty plank]

It is a long read....

Well I know what to do while I'm on the WC

[upper sun]

just control F to what weapon you wanna know about

[haughty plank]

Thanks guys, you have been very useful

[upper sun]

np

[ornate hamlet]

justr use a kgnife

[upper sun]

theres also a psyker guide btw pinned here

[hearty dagger]

so i just learned

That the shockmaul absolutely shreds through Captain shields

[ornate hamlet]

I want to focus on surge, I really like that T4 perk, but what would be the optimal blessing/perk combo given this? I think the second blessing is good, so that leaves perks?

[hearty dagger]

Just keep tasing them and that shield just disappears

[ornate hamlet]

Thinking flak and maniac

[plucky flax]

Surge trauma

[ornate hamlet]

Dont underestimate it

[marble crater]

For lmb spam please ask Atlas

[hearty dagger]

Just had a thought

[restive ice]

surge run n gun

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-heist-gif-23353762

But I cant drop that sustained fire though

Its so good.

[hearty dagger]

Puncture/Deadly Accurate or Puncture/Run and Gun

[plucky flax]

Surge and sustained fire trauma.

Clearly one of the build of all time.

[ornate hamlet]

Oh my god.

This thing ANNHILATES Maulers

[plucky flax]

With left click?

[ornate hamlet]

YES

[lethal lagoon]

Perhaps it's time to dust out my old LMB build

[ornate hamlet]

Scrier's gaze build, not using buffs or active buffs.

[lethal lagoon]

We have a different defintion of ANNHILATES

[ornate hamlet]

Let me elaborate

Compared to must other rapid spam LMB weapons out there, this one is solid against these enemies for what it is.

The difference is huge.

[lethal lagoon]

Don't quote the old magic to me, I was there when it was written
#1158835513789272126 message

The surge change should be impactful though if you aren't running warp nexus

I wanna grab run n gun + transfer peril might go kinda hard too

[radiant frigate]

blazing surge voidstrike time

[lethal lagoon]

The main issue with sustained fire is you gotta pause to reapply it

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah don't test lmb staff spam against laspistol 2 or columbus.

[lethal lagoon]

You can one shot gunners

With lmb. Plus everyone get's supressed like crazy.

So you lower the vet's DPS by a lot

[restive ice]

good

[brazen rampart]

Doesn't the rmb on trauma knock down gunners, even when they've posted up?

I don't know why you'd bother with suppressing them when you could do that.

[restive ice]

when the entire map is stairs

[brazen rampart]

Though you could flick your mouse around like a maniac spamming lmb to keep a horde of shooters suppressed.

[lethal lagoon]

Ignoring the fact that I'm discussing a meme LMB-only build

I think you are vastly underestimating how much supression LMB generates.

Literally every ranged unit on the map will cower before you

[brazen rampart]

Oh, no, I'm not. I'll whip out my voidstrike and just spam lmb at things when I'm closing distance.

[lethal lagoon]

[brazen rampart]

Is there a problem?

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

[brazen rampart]

Going to cry now.

[near wyvern]

Bolt Pistol is nice for Psykers change my mind

[brazen rampart]

Bolt pistol is nice in general.

You get the precision of the zarona with a full reload every time and don't exactly have to compromise on damage without blessings taken into account. (hand cannon, namely)

[near wyvern]

The bonus on staggered enemies is nice since you can throw an assail to interrupt + stagger and then hit them with the bolt pistol to finish off

And the bleed on hit is BiS

[near wyvern]

Yeah the bolt pistol for Psykers is what Agripinaa revolver dreams to be

[upper sun]

less broken?

[lilac ridge]

i put the shots always explode with bleed 4 blessings on mine and its really fun

use it mostly in my SG builds for that 40% damage hehe

[brazen rampart]

If I'm to be honest, it feels like bolt pistols were meant to combo with zealouts and vets.

Specifically their stealth builds.

What with the blessings on knives and the perks they get.

[sacred crane]

im not gonna lie, i love how dumb the voicebox cosmetic is

[lilac ridge]

its a very literal voice box and thats what makes it awesome

[jovial juniper]

It has an AoE great-ish for keeping DD stacks

[hearty oak]

Its a soda can that you decided to eat for a tiktok trend and it got stuck like that and you got called for a mission

[lilac ridge]

advanced chroming

[sacred crane]

And now this concludes I'm keeping the voicebox on

[lilac ridge]

also make why so serious jokes with the can face, its fitting.

[patent wing]

ive tried all possible blessings on the bolt pistol and the best is bleed and exploooosion

but in the end ciag > all

[upper sun]

what about pinning fire OH WAIT xdddd

[patent wing]

kek

[cosmic sigil]

No

[jovial juniper]

Gonna be honest with you, Ciag is not helping me keep 20+ stacks of DD

[patent wing]

explain urself

[stable silo]

my cursed laspistol and my cursed heavy sword on my zealot

[patent wing]

ciag can kill a chaos spawn in under 15 seconds, while bolt pistol needs like a minute

[hearty dagger]

Ciag is good for dumping damage quickly, but there are better options for literally anything other than rapid firing

[upper sun]

AAAAA EVERY QUICK QUEUE MISSION IS THE NEW ONE

[patent wing]

ciag can restore enough toughness with 60 shots in a mag, while i can restore like what, 10 toughness with 8 shots?

[upper sun]

FUCK OFF I JUST DID 3 TIMES IN A ROW

[cosmic sigil]

Hammer can kill a boss in less than 5s so hammer > ciag?

[hearty dagger]

Plus Thunder Hammer can basically one shot bosses, doesn't mean it trumps literally every zealot melee

[patent wing]

dont play it that way or is ur hammer ranged

[upper sun]

hammer good

[hearty dagger]

Voidstrike immediately fills my toughness bar to full

[cosmic sigil]

You propulse yourself with the hammer. It should count as ranged.

[patent wing]

after 5 sec charge xd

[hearty dagger]

Imagine full-charging

[patent wing]

30 shots for a crusher, 2 mags for a chaos spawn while i regen enough toughness to face tank it. also kill a reaper with like 10 shots?

[hearty dagger]

With what setup?

[jovial juniper]

They also "nerfed" Ciag so now it's "harder" to keep infinite crit due to True Aim

[patent wing]

so and what are u going to kill with a 2 sec charge? trash hordes maybe but no ogryn or mauler or rager

[hearty dagger]

Headshots still knock them on their ass.

[patent wing]

just unyielding cara and dumdum

[hearty dagger]

Literally no buildmaking required?

[cosmic sigil]

With the same Crit string as the graia, this one become even better comparatively

[patent wing]

for boss you need scriers gaze

but i didnt account for DD

[hearty dagger]

Immediate L

[patent wing]

if you have a stacked dd its ok without i guess

[jovial juniper]

Graia recoil control my beloved

[hearty dagger]

So what i'm hearing is this should nuke more or less anything, with just a bit more shots since it doesn't have carapace/unyielding?

[near wyvern]

Hopefully I can showcase you tomorrow when I get my video out that it's very good on Psykers as well

[patent wing]

without disrupt destiny stacks without warp charges

11 sec

[brazen rampart]

What is psyker chat arguing about now?

[hearty dagger]

Ciag

[near wyvern]

The explosion only applies when you kill a target and it's mostly stagger. I use the bleed + extra damage on staggered enemies. Allows you to two tap ragers to the chest and you can combo off from an assail interrupt into boosted bolt.

[brazen rampart]

What about it?

Good, bad, paints the target purple, what's the argument?

[near wyvern]

Now do the same while it moves

[hearty dagger]

Also while getting shot at by gunners

While getting horded since 95% of the time a boss comes with one

[near wyvern]

What is there to argue on Columnus IAG? It's still the monstrosity DPS king for Psykers even after the nerf

[fresh reef]

I forgot how much fun pairing the wall with purgatus is

[hearty dagger]

Yeah it's god tier dps, though my main gripe with it is while it's good at dumping shots in point-blank range, it tends to eat shit at anything slightly past medium

[patent wing]

the problem is the toughness regen mechanic on psyker. its shot based, not dmg based. therefore all guns with high fire rate and mag size are good

[near wyvern]

Which is when you switch to Assails. Columnus is your panic button. Press LMB to wipe the floor.

[hearty dagger]

Sure, it can nuke a reaper faster than anything (except maybe revolver), but if it's far away you're gonna eat ass

[brazen rampart]

Why the hell would you magdump into trash if you've got assail equipped, though?

[patent wing]

its really good to open up bulwarks

[hearty dagger]

Assail tends to be wonky with targeting in my experience, which is also where my gripe with Ciag comes from. It's going to suck if you get pinned down anywhere outside your comfort zone of short/medium

[near wyvern]

Just equip the dagger and spring slide to close the gap

[brazen rampart]

You'll generate far more toughness just throwing a handful of darts than you will spraying down trash.

[vestal fulcrum]

Malefic Momentum stacking is one thing

[brazen rampart]

You have a melee.

[patent wing]

im not a zealot

ranged only

[vestal fulcrum]

Melee requires you to approach the enemies

[brazen rampart]

And last I checked melee doesn't require ammo.

[vestal fulcrum]

ranged - you whip it out, you shoot some, go back to Assail

[near wyvern]

The trick is to hold RMB, aim slightly up and jump, then release. Specials and Elites have larger models than trash so it latches on them like a magnet when you do that

[patent wing]

0 melee dmg is the best

[hearty dagger]

I don't care what the ciag propaganda says, beating the shit out of anything with my shockmaul is prime entertainment

[patent wing]

deimos > all

[near wyvern]

also spamming jump while throwing LMB is a good tactic

[vestal fulcrum]

Deimos is cringe, Obscurus is the new Deimos

[brazen rampart]

I just don't see the argument for using ciag on psyker when you've got assail.

[near wyvern]

Still haven't tested the new buffed heavy on Obscurus

[tired estuary]

assail doesn't do funny boss dmg

[brazen rampart]

Like yeah malefic exists but you've also got melee attacks.

[patent wing]

with deimos im 3 shotting crushers, while knocking them down WHILE also mowing down a horde with lmb spam

[near wyvern]

Ciag is your Assail on steroids

[brazen rampart]

A few pokes with a ds or some slashes with a force sword and you'll keep malefic going high always.

[hearty dagger]

Problem with the force swords is when you take them, Morrow personally takes a wrench to your knees so you can barely fucking move at the same speed as anyone else

[near wyvern]

But they don't regen

[vestal fulcrum]

It's nice. Much easier to chain single target combo, whereas Deimos requires you to constantly block/swap cancel

But the hitboxes of the combo on Obscurus are

...

very janky.

[patent wing]

true true but u have high range push

[near wyvern]

What the fuck, you use L1 H2 for Deimos not block swap cancel

[vestal fulcrum]

If you are in something's face, you will have a hard time hitting the weakspot without camera shenanigans

[hearty dagger]

Yeah, i have a long range push but my problem with it is i am so fucking slow

[patent wing]

did you try 80 mobi

[brazen rampart]

Frankly instead of ciag I would use a headhunter autogun.

[vestal fulcrum]

and then what do you do after H2?

[hearty dagger]

It's a force sword not a goddamn ball and chain on my ankle, how come the priest with the heavy evis outruns me?

[brazen rampart]

But that's just me.

[hearty dagger]

Yes but running 80 mobi on a melee is kinda eeeeh

[brazen rampart]

Faith.

[near wyvern]

Deimos L1 H2 spam

https://youtu.be/6v6uUZI6T5c

[hearty dagger]

Plus, if you run a deimos, you might as well just run DS4

[vestal fulcrum]

That's not L1, though, that's L1, H2, <some other L attack looped>, H2, etc.

[hearty dagger]

Easier moveset with no need to do some block cancel bullshit, equal if not higher damage

Plus higher movespeed so you don't feel like a grandpa without his wheelchair

[near wyvern]

Not really. Different purpose. DS4 is more mobility and DPS, Deimos is more defence and burst, excellent for mutant conga lines.

[hearty dagger]

Regular mutant conga or mutant wave conga?

[vestal fulcrum]

both?

[hearty dagger]

Since i've trolled the shit out of mutant waves with DS4.

[near wyvern]

Yeah but you just throw in the light after the H2 to quicky access the H2 which is like all your DPS

[hearty dagger]

Still one taps and the alt attack can stun them out of it

[vestal fulcrum]

Yes, I see what you mean now, I had always assumed that by L1 H2 spam you meant L1 H2, BC/swap cancel, repeat

[near wyvern]

My H2 one shots regular mutants without additional buffs

[patent wing]

also deimos h2 is oneshotting muties without buffs

[near wyvern]

On head shot

[patent wing]

xddd

i should read before i write

[upper sun]

can it without maniacs?

[jovial juniper]

Oh that does explain why BB seems to target them amidst a horde

[patent wing]

nop

[near wyvern]

Why. You came here to lead not to read.

[upper sun]

i remember reading something like that in the guide

[near wyvern]

See the table in Atheneum for the rolls you need

[vestal fulcrum]

Going back to Obscurus H1:

[upper sun]

anything short of triple 80 wouldnt work i think i tried 79%s

[vestal fulcrum]

These are the numbers against unarmoured

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i have 2 gripes with non-illisi force swords

[vestal fulcrum]

for comparison, here are Deimos' H2

[hearty dagger]

The moveset is needlessly convoluted and the mobility is so ass that usually by time you get to melee someone else already beat them to death

[near wyvern]

If you have +special +maniac you don't need perfect stat roll

[upper sun]

"Deimos can reach Mutant one shot headshot kills with the 2nd heavy with the following values without any additional buffs."

[patent wing]

nah first target, dmg and finess all 78 and still one shot muties with +mutant

[upper sun]

did you mean here buffs and is talents or buffs as in perks?

[patent wing]

buffs as in talents i think

[upper sun]

ah

[near wyvern]

Buffs as anything that is on your buff bar

Or talent nodes etc

[upper sun]

well even with t3 maniac its relatively easy if you have a passable deimos

[near wyvern]

Just wielding the weapon

[patent wing]

nah wait finesse needs 79

ft and dmg 78

[upper sun]

yes i said passable deimos

[near wyvern]

Should be slappable Deimos

[hearty dagger]

Also hilariously enough

Every deimos psyker i have ever seen never actually uses it

They're all either pure staff or pure smite

[upper sun]

HEY

[near wyvern]

The ones I see use special against mutants and it makes me cringe every single time

[upper sun]

i hold block and run away like a pussy sometimes

[gilded viper]

Hey what do you want on the shotgun +flak and like what?

[tired estuary]

idk thats just most psykers with their melee

[hearty dagger]

Personally, Maniac

[plucky flax]

I use my deimos for the special activation.

[near wyvern]

+flak +maniac

[tired estuary]

ds4 psyker holding surge on a single crusher

[hearty dagger]

You aren't really touching carapace with it anyway so might as well go for special nuking

I once saw

A psyker

Somehow do every possible wrong move

[tired estuary]

only once?

[plucky flax]

Sounds like Unsanctioned Psyker.

[near wyvern]

If I bring an Illisi it's only for stroking

[hearty dagger]

So guy is running Surge staff, assail and a melee that i barely saw

Uses the surge to clear the chaff

Throws assail at carapace

And tries to do surge staff after he gets swarmed

[tired estuary]

I still think you should be able to jerk off every force sword, not just illisi

[near wyvern]

That's gotta be the best Psyker you have ever seen

[hearty dagger]

If i bring a melee it's most definitely for beating the shit out of everything in sight.

[patent wing]

i cant one shot muties with that thing

[quartz barn]

melee = movement tool

[patent wing]

when lock remove

[hearty dagger]

Crusher? Gets the stick.
Bulwark? First he gets tased and gets beaten with the stick
Rager? If it's one, gets the tase and stick, if more than one, gets rapidly assailed

[quartz barn]

use void even when in close range cuz aoe stagger

[hearty dagger]

Also i've been 2 tapping muties with the funny bonk stick

Tase into High Voltage overhead wipes them hard

[near wyvern]

Which is why I live my knife 6. Mobile. Tanky AF. Decent against trash. OK against Crushers. That's all I need for my melee.

[hearty dagger]

Haven't really run knives in a while

[near wyvern]

Real Psykers bonk their enemies to assert dominance before killing

[hearty dagger]

I remember getting Untouchable on heresy with a knife as melee psyker at some point though.

[patent wing]

pygex, did you try haymaker uncanny mk6?

[plucky flax]

Crit damage

[quartz barn]

staff special my beloved

mfw staff bonk crit hits twice because surge

[near wyvern]

Yes, unfortunately the attack speed is not high enough to make haymaker worth it. You want Flesh Tearer + Uncanny. It's both more single target and horde DPS.

[patent wing]

yeah i use that. thought so

[hearty dagger]

Currently my bonkin' stick

Kinda bricked but i refuse to use anything else for ideological reasons (it's my first 380 roll and i will die before i replace it)

[near wyvern]

My first 380 was an infantry lasgun, the MG IV pew pew gun. Too bad infantry lasguns are in a bad spot right now.

Still have it tho

[hearty dagger]

Also man i love this stick

I swear to god the bolt pistol and bonking stick feel like they do better with enforcer armor on

[near wyvern]

Yeah it looks fun, haven't had the chance to try it yet since I first worked on the bolt pistol

[hearty dagger]

Word of advice

[near wyvern]

Cause the visuals are so chad

[hearty dagger]

Go for Indignatus, not Agni

[near wyvern]

Yeah I tested the move sets, mk III is clearly superior

[hearty dagger]

Indignatus sounds like it would have the wonkier combos but it's straightforward as hell and you have infinite overheads if anything needs bonking with extreme prejudice

[patent wing]

is the lock remove truly coming btw?

[hearty dagger]

Yeah

[patent wing]

or do u just meme it

[tired estuary]

"crafting rework" is coming

[hearty dagger]

Crafting system overhaul at the end of summer replaces locks with a modification limit

[near wyvern]

Yes, there is official response stating exactly that

[patent wing]

wat is mod limit

[hearty dagger]

So you can put on any number of changes as long as it doesn't go over the limit which you can upgrade

On the preview it was like 100

and perks and blessings were like 20s-30s

Though you can upgrade the weapon

Which also raises stats up to a possible maximum and raises mod. cap

[near wyvern]

@patent wing
#📢news-bulletin message

[hearty dagger]

You can't upgrade it higher than your weapon mastery

[patent wing]

nice ty

[hearty dagger]

Which is how you unlock new blessings to put on your stuff, it works kinda like a skill tree from what i saw

[patent wing]

so i can unbrick my deimos

[hearty dagger]

Yes.

You can unbrick your deimos to brick it up instead

[sterile grove]

what are good perks for the bolt pistol?

[lethal lagoon]

Does that mean gold is going to be an even bigger bottleneck because now we just need the perfect grey?

[hearty dagger]

Puncture is definitely good, and people are saying the one that makes it explode on hit no matter what still works

[hearty dagger]

Dunno

[near wyvern]

+maniac is what you want with 4 stack bleed on the blessing slot

[hearty dagger]

Apparently weapon marks are also getting nuked

[near wyvern]

The rest is not as vital

[plucky flax]

You need 100 mil dockets to buy a red 100 all stats weapon.

[upper galleon]

yesn't, everything has the same endpoint so you can invest gold into existing gear instead of buying more greys

[hearty dagger]

So what you'll have instead of Mk2, mk4 and mk5 dueling swords is just a dueling sword that you can swap between mks

[lethal lagoon]

Oh they are letting us upgrade stats?

So just a normal crafting system

[hearty dagger]

Up to a possible maximum per weapon, yes

[upper galleon]

yes that's the expertise system if i read correctly

[lethal lagoon]

[sterile grove]

yea im gonna have to waste my hard earned plasteel to get a tier 4 of those

gloryhunter is good yea?

[hearty dagger]

But when you get the weapon you are able to see how high it can go

[near wyvern]

To a limit. It seems every weapon will have a randomly rolled max stat potential and you can upgrade to that limit

[hearty dagger]

So say it starts at say 40% and maxes out at say 70%

You can upgrade it up to that max

[near wyvern]

I suggest at least T3 extra damage on stagger so you can 2 tap ragers to the chest

[plucky flax]

100% all 3 damage stats blaze trauma

[hearty dagger]

Though considering you can expertise upgrade weapons even at gold, what the fuck are the max stats on this thing?

Assuming Fatshark doesn't nerf it for me to unnerf

[near wyvern]

That is how the current iteration implies

[hearty dagger]

I would do terrible things for 100% finesse and penetration.

I need 100% finesse and penetration so i can escalate the police brutality.

[near wyvern]

Max penetration

[hearty dagger]

I have a chemical need to go to Nurgle's Garden and bash his skull in while yelling cloaker lines from payday 2

Speaking of, i still need to set up my cloaker soundboard so i can meme with it in pubs

[near wyvern]

Payday 2 is super fun in VR

[hearty dagger]

If only i was a zealot main so i could enhance the cloakening

[hearty dagger]

Ooooh fancypants rich mcgee over here (fuck you)

[near wyvern]

It's such a chad moment when you are reviving a team mate with one hand while going gangsta on your AK on the other hand

[lethal lagoon]

Aren't VR headsets just the cost of a console?

[near wyvern]

Yes but then you gotta add in the rig that runs it

[hearty dagger]

Getting an oculus for me is like

13k

Cheaper if i buy in some shit that sounds offbrand as hell

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah I guess.

[hearty dagger]

Like i can get a shinecon with controllers for 1.4k

So i do not trust the quality of that considering that raw price difference.

On a different note, i feel like changing the name of my Psyker from a random generated one to a different one so i don't run into other people with the same name as me, y'know, be unique

But i've had Montov for so long that it's become kind of iconic and i don't like the implications of the personality scourge

[marble crater]

Keep Montov and add something else after it

[lethal lagoon]

MontovDeezNuts

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

Change your gender and make it Montovy

[hearty dagger]

You see, i'm one of those weirdos who like to write background lore for their characters

[flint pawn]

oh ok

[hearty dagger]

And uhh, i feel like someone on Tertium would be very confused about suddenly having two moms

[lethal lagoon]

[restive ice]

warp storm

[hearty dagger]

Tzeentch pulling some warp fuckery to make some random imperial kid have 5x weakness to any sort of "your dad left for milk" joke

"Your dad left for milk and came back with milkies"

[upper sun]

my favorite talent

[hearty dagger]

Also i like Male Savant more than Female Savant

[upper sun]

he came back with 200k melkbucks
you can not spend them

[flint pawn]

Just another day in Darktide

[hearty oak]

Having a good ol time with the mk 6 recon and its buffs

error code 2014: Fuck you and your fun, your mission was aborted

[hearty dagger]

Ngl, if we get red items it would be cool if we got some less performance related but just wacky modifiers on weapons

like say,
"Selva Oscura"
"This item will have random perks and blessings every mission"

[upper sun]

-100% infested +300% carap on a purge

[hearty dagger]

lmao

Honestly you could call that maybe smth like

"Warp-Forge's Flames"
"Unarmored enemies take no damage, armored enemies take 500% damage"

[upper sun]

ciag with +4000% power but -99% ammo cap

[hearty dagger]

Actually if you changed it and made it have like one mag with the tradeoff of every bullet hitting like a bolter/revolver round, that could be funny

Call it something like "Lucky Mag"

[upper sun]

[hearty dagger]

Or since it's the columnus, 10000% mag capacity but reload speed so ridiculously slow that you would be reloading it for ages

Like just comically large mag

Holds the entire ammo capacity of a columnus in it

[upper sun]

1 minute reloading time

[hearty dagger]

But Emperor have mercy on you if you ever need to reload it

[upper sun]

exi stance vet would laugh at you

[hearty dagger]

You could maybe mitigate it by say, making it reload on kill or having it passively load rounds itself while not in use

[upper sun]

we're like at least 2 years away from this type of shit

when did vt2 even get chaos wastes?

[hearty dagger]

Pretty late i think

Tbf that's one thing that people who keep comparing DT and V2 tend to forget

[upper sun]

yeah it just got verses

[hearty dagger]

VT2 took a long fucking time to actually become as good as it is right now

[upper sun]

6 year dev cycle

[hearty dagger]

Honestly, i feel bad for the Vermintide series now.

AoS really fucked up WH fantasy

[upper sun]

darktide has 4 more years to be good or im demanding a refund

[near wyvern]

I have my hopes for the item update

Cause the gameplay is already there

The balance IMO is already better than VT2

It's just the fucking grind to get to new weapons and things

[upper sun]

ye still needs more modes weeky events mod support something like twitch mode

[hearty dagger]

Ngl i don't think even the item update will really mitigate the problem since DT's main problem is it's gameplay is good, but there's not enough content

[upper sun]

i wonder what theyre gonna cook up

[hearty dagger]

At least it's got, in my opinion, more replayability than V2

[upper sun]

itll help new players not wanna claw their eyes out while trying to build gear and test out blessings

[hearty dagger]

Since with V2 levels were kinda cut and dry, though with DT there is at least some degree of variance

[near wyvern]

One could say the same about Helldivers 2 yet I still mainly play the 2 back and forth. I like to carry people through hard shit.

[hearty dagger]

Tbf Helldivers 2 doesn't have the problem of lacking content

By content i mean things to do

[upper sun]

HD2 has its own problems

[patent wing]

the grind keeps us playing

[hearty dagger]

Even a HD2 MO is viable for that, while Darktide ends up getting age-long content droughts

[upper sun]

in 2-3 years once the angry meme game crowd leaves and lets the devs balance it its gonna be a great game

[hearty dagger]

Ngl after the latest balance patch HD2 already feels a lot better.

[patent wing]

they should allow private servers; and i will invite you all to mine where theres no pee sword and no pee gun

[near wyvern]

I am maxed out on anything but level and super credits so.... Yeah there is the major order but it's all the same. Go to this pseudorandomly generated planet surface, do the sides, get the loot, do the mains, get the fuck out.

[upper sun]

its down to 40k from 400k

[hearty dagger]

Feels like the balance team finally took their heads out of their asses and realized they're not fighting against the playerbase

[hearty dagger]

Mainly as backlash from the sony thing.

[upper sun]

actually maybe in 6 months its gonna be great

[upper sun]

when was that?

[hearty dagger]

2 months ago, people are still whining about it though.

[patent wing]

never understood the helldivers hype tbh
i mean 3rd person gun-combat is just lame

[hearty dagger]

Like "ooooh they just pulled wool over your eyes oooooh"

[upper sun]

its been dropping before that

[lethal lagoon]

Sony backlash didn't touch the steam numbers at all actually.

[near wyvern]

It keeps certain type of people playing. I used to be one of those people years ago but now that I actually have a life I only play to enjoy not to get that final 2% from a slot machine.

[lethal lagoon]

Game was just dribbling players for a while, nothing was really wrong, there just wasn't much to do.

[hearty dagger]

3rd person gun combat is fun as hell when gun feel good and bigger gun so big you can explode yourself

[upper sun]

nah i get it having to wait 8 minutes and watch 10 intros click 12 agreements and log into 3 accounts to play a game is annoying

[patent wing]

to easy in 3rd person

[upper sun]

i stopped playing ubisoft games because of their trash launcer

[lethal lagoon]

Material caps and level caps were too harsh as well, so playing felt less rewarding.

[upper sun]

also sony accounts arent avilable in many countries mine included

[hearty dagger]

Not really when:
You get overrun by bugs
Weapon-penetration gets you fucked up
You suddenly have to run because a dumbass just called an artillery barrage directly on top of you

[upper sun]

if i had the game i would have been locked out of it

[near wyvern]

Another great stat picture for another trash video game site to be overly enthusiastic for a regular player count curve on the field of video games.

People test it out, majority moves on, only small minority sticks around and goes on it harder than on anything else in life

[lethal lagoon]

Give people titles for prestiging and the game would kept much more of it's audience.

[patent wing]

just hug him

[lethal lagoon]

Not really. It was a very slow and gradual decline for hd2.

[upper sun]

people who baught the game in grey countries got locked out of the game

[lethal lagoon]

Nothing like darktide for example

[hearty dagger]

Oh i'll hug him alright. With big dakka.

[upper sun]

thats why people were mad

[hearty dagger]

Wackily enough

[patent wing]

man i really have to restrain myself from posting bannable jokes here

[hearty dagger]

For some reason there have been two times where a majority of the community got absolutely hit with misinformation

[upper sun]

@lethal lagoon can you react with nodders to madrigal real quick?

[patent wing]

but you all know what i would write after clad said "thats why people were mad" right?

[upper sun]

you can take it off now

free nitro

[hearty dagger]

1: Some guy claimed his rocket ricochet'd back to him, when you could clearly see he got hit by a separate missile from behind and people were in outrage.
2: Some other guy claimed that people in the countries where the game got delisted couldn't play the game anymore and despite multiple people claiming otherwise, they all still believed it

[upper sun]

damn i should sell a bot that does that

[patent wing]

whats the nodders apu?

[long wharf]

The sad truth is that FartShart doesn't have the capability nor competence to put out content quickly enough to retain more casual players for more than a couple weeks

[upper sun]

I agree

[hearty dagger]

To be fair they also kept making shit for Verm2

Like a new map for Karak Azgaraz

and Versus mode

[near wyvern]

I would say that LUA spaghetti has something to do with it

[long wharf]

I'd say it has a lot to do with it, but that's also entirely FartShart's fault, too

[upper sun]

also awful version control

[hearty dagger]

Though ngl while it's cool that they're still updating Vermintide, it also sounds kinda ridiculous

[upper sun]

warren door bug is back baby

[hearty dagger]

Ubisoft has released at least 6 flops in the same time as Fatshark has worked on Vermintide

[near wyvern]

Well yes. Doing template style design on a functional programming language instead of OOP is the software design world's equivalent of shooting yourself in the foot.

Not to talk about the naming issues

Which is just asking for trouble

[hearty dagger]

Spaghetti code is best code

[long wharf]

I'm convinced that FartShart's idea of source control is deciding which workstation to grab code from.

[upper sun]

left4dead 1 had such awful code loading screens had to load the map multiple times for it to work

[near wyvern]

Who wouldn't like a good Bolognese, eh?

[hearty dagger]

Imagine a game completely immune to hacking and datamining solely because of how stupidly it's coded

[upper sun]

i think spaghetti code is part of tide gameplay athis point

[hearty dagger]

You guys wanna know something fucking hilarious?

[long wharf]

Inextricably linked at this point

[hearty dagger]

I preordered this game so that i would be aboard the dongliz express of a fatshark launch.

I somehow got through most of the game's lifespan without even seeing the dongliz express at work

[weak sapphire]

What headgear should I pick for my psyker

[hearty dagger]

Besides fairly recently

[upper sun]

why cant we get cool bugs like the plasteel refund

those are the bugs i want back smh

[long wharf]

The beta helmet

[hearty dagger]

I had a fucking poxburster jump out through a wall on the carnival map

[long wharf]

Hopefully you never removed the ogryn one from your psyker

[weak sapphire]

https://ibb.co/Kh4PMDK

I want matchy matchy

[near wyvern]

Something really ugly so you have something to start a conversation with in the elevators

[weak sapphire]

The new mic in mouth thingy is ugly. I wonder how they eat with that.

[near wyvern]

I love the Beta helmet. I like to run that whenever I go a lasgun run and I advertise myself as a B tier veteran. Should probably make an alt Psyler just for that

[brazen rampart]

The shroud ones are nice. One is a simple mask, one is a mask + visor, and one is a mask + visor + psi collar.

[weak sapphire]

I use lasgun with infernus on my psyker on maelstrom :>

INFERNUS

[hearty dagger]

Through the magic of the druids

[brazen rampart]

If only infernus was good.

[weak sapphire]

It is good

[brazen rampart]

It isn't.

If the stacks somehow converted to soulblaze, it would be good.

[near wyvern]

The helm we got for the Aquila shit show with the re-breather and welding goggles

[weak sapphire]

Well lets put it this way. There are of course better options. But its not bad for the purpose I use lasgun

[weak sapphire]

Ill just stay with the rebreather I think

[brazen rampart]

Otherwise, it's a very mid DOT that you won't even be able to get much use from because either the target dies from the shot that lit them on fire itself or someone else kills your burning target.

[near wyvern]

Asking for advice and sticking with original solution, what a chad

[weak sapphire]

swaggering out of the room

[brazen rampart]

If psyker had an aura that converted normal fire to soulblaze, that would be nuts for infernus.

[weak sapphire]

Im using my lasgun for bosses since the build I use is overall not a boss dmg build. I suppose i could take raking fire as alternative but for its purpose it works great.

[near wyvern]

Infernus was good for monstrosity damage but since they keep just nerfing and nerfing it it's starting to fall into that "won't even notice" category, sadly

[brazen rampart]

For boss damage I can see it being useful but only because it doesn't have the issues using it on other targets has.

[weak sapphire]

Yeah, agree on smallies though.

I suppose its like everything else: "It depends" 😄

[near wyvern]

It can work against reapers but that's pretty much it

You sometimes get a random tick kill against an elite but yeah

[brazen rampart]

I do seriously mean the psyker aura thing, though. If you could convert all normal fire to soulblaze that would be huge for working with teammates.

[weak sapphire]

Yeah

[brazen rampart]

Imagine the amount of damage a psyker and zealout could do together with that.

[near wyvern]

31 stack soulblaze is a bit much tho

[brazen rampart]

I can cook off half of any monstrosity's hp with one mag of my flamer, imagine that all being soulblaze...

[buoyant maple]

Got buffed this patch

[near wyvern]

Soulblaze actually does half the damage of burn

[brazen rampart]

Yeah, but now it's not fire, it's soulblaze.

Meaning you can now stack normal fire on top of that.

Turn a boss into a living torch.

[near wyvern]

They even have both a global gap of 31, the thing is, burn can only be applied from weapons and they have a lower hard cap in the blessings

Where as soulblaze from talents (perilous combustion and creeping flames) only obey the global cap

[brazen rampart]

I would've figured you could do both at the same time.

31 stacks of both fire and soulblaze, together.

[near wyvern]

So if you had 4 Psykers, 1 first topping up the flames with a purgatus to 15 and then all 4 shouting you would hit 31

[brazen rampart]

Anywho, that could still have some insane workage in hordes because of wildfire.

[cosmic sigil]

it was hard to pull with two sb oriented psykers (trauma and purg)

[near wyvern]

Nor really because of all the wildfire bugs

[brazen rampart]

A few puffs of a flamer, you convert it to soulblaze, wildfire does the magic for you.

[cosmic sigil]

so alone...

[brazen rampart]

What bugs?

[near wyvern]

Just look at the entry in Atheneum

Don't want to write it up again and again year after year

[patent wing]

btw best gunker build is with brain rupture but it consumes so much ammo that its only playable in solo xd

[near wyvern]

If you don't know what Atheneum is just say so but prepare your mind so it doesn't explode from all the peril

[gilded viper]

What y'all running on the bolt pistol?

[patent wing]

trash bin into columnus

[gilded viper]

Cool, so any actual answers?

[near wyvern]

+maniac and 4 stack bleed on hit are viral

Extra damage on staggered enemies and +flak is a nice bonus

[patent wing]

bleed and explosion or bleed dmg

[near wyvern]

Chill, let people read and type

[patent wing]

for what breakpoints u want maniac

i didnt see any

[near wyvern]

The explosion description is faulty, it triggers whenever you kill stuff. It also mainly just staggers, the explosion damage is around 10-20 per target hit.

[gilded viper]

It was more the sass I responded that way, if I wanted a colomnus build I woulda asked

[buoyant maple]

Flamer 1HS

[patent wing]

doesnt work for me with +maniac

ah wait wrong flamer

[buoyant maple]

With DD stacks / warp charge +dmg stacks u should be able to hit it

[patent wing]

yeah needs buffs

[patent wing]

wasnt meant that way
issa just that ciag does everything better

[near wyvern]

• maniac with 4 bleed stacks, extra damage on staggered enemies and then you take warp battery with the +5% ranged damage node and without any peril (at 6 warp charges) you fan do:

1 tap head:

• flamers, trappers, bombers, snipers, gunners, shotgunners

2 tap body:

• both ragers

3 tap body:

• mauler
• mutant

4 tap body:

• reaper

Reaper is also 3 tap head

With more peril you need less warp charges if you pick warp rider as well

[patent wing]

(except opening up bulwarks, i will give you that point, but it needs the explosion perk)

[patent wing]

and we use that WC calculation to simulate dd stacks?

[near wyvern]

I use those warp charges as in I use warp charges. The weakspot and crit bonus are very low on bolt pistol so the crit and weakspot damage from DD ain't gonna carry you far.

And also you get nothing for boosting body shots apart from crits

[patent wing]

where can we see the crit multiplier of the weapno

[near wyvern]

Open weapon damage table and compare weakspot, crit and crit weakspot damage to regular damage.

As an example revolver deals 3x damage on head versus body. Bolt pistol deals around 2x, so half as good as for the revolver. (3x - 1x = +2x, 2x - 1x = +1x)

[gilded viper]

And what exactly makes Colomnus good? Certain blessings?

[near wyvern]

True Aim form the talent tree

The good blessings are just a bonus

[patent wing]

btw the explosion perk does work at least in psykaneum. i can open up bulwarks in melee distance with it, but not without

[upper sun]

good dps accurate hip fire nice crits

[gilded viper]

What even are the good blessings then?

[near wyvern]

Check Atheneum

[upper sun]

dumdum and fire frenzy/death spitter/raking fire

[patent wing]

#psyker-class message

blessing: dumdum is most important; perks as you like. personally i prefer unyielding and carapace.

many also play flak and maniac. or flak unyielding

dump stats are mobility and ammo

[near wyvern]

@gilded viper

This is best enjoyed in small parts

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[patent wing]

we should give you a special color name

[near wyvern]

At least my profile icon has somewhat similar colour to the logo on the guide? Ain't that enough? 😅

[upper sun]

just make pygex a playtester we need a psyker out there

[near wyvern]

It will take all credibility out of me, I would be "one of them" not "one of us"

[upper sun]

change is best made from within

[patent wing]

but you would get featured like the guy with the ogryn guide

[upper sun]

fatshark has a hard on for ogryn

[near wyvern]

Yeah but Ogryns are so hierarchical

We just vibing around the edge of sanity here

[upper sun]

they keep spamming the guide while all they have to do is fix ogryn mantling/mobility in general to make people play ogryn

[near wyvern]

Ogryn mobility ain't that bad

The spring slide is funny as fuck

[upper sun]

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/business20/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/d/b/db649894c5b00c27825a2166dc36bd5beebb1fa4.mp4

[near wyvern]

Cause you don't really lower your model so shots just phase through

[upper sun]

me trying to move in the new section in riser

[near wyvern]

Next time leave the bag of chips in the valk for the return trip

[upper sun]

fatshark collision meshes are the stuff of nightmares

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-slide-crouch-drennt-gif-16208176206711016442

[upper sun]

unlocalized to you too

[near wyvern]

I love the unlockalised string in the end, icing on top of the cake

[patent wing]

https://tenor.com/view/surging-power-megumin-gif-21882552

@near wyvern the videos are showing the diff between explooosion and no explosion

[near wyvern]

You don't really want to spend 3 ammo to open a Bulwark when you can do that with assails as well

[patent wing]

how tf does assail open up bulwarks

fake news xd

[cosmic sigil]

so Pygex with the bolt pistol you recommend the good ol shriek + warp charges build?

what about the shotgun?

[near wyvern]

LMB and RMB can both do it but it's easier to do with RMB if if is in your face. Lock in and throw it away above their head so that it goes around the shield or curves from behind. Sometimes you gotta land 2 to open it.

[patent wing]

doesnt work

[near wyvern]

Modified battery gunner from Atheneum (33.2). Drop True Aim, the speed node and Toughness regen for the dome, go for fully upgraded assail instead of the smite and come down for the dome via malefic momentum, crit aura and the +5% ranged damage node (keep soulstealer and perilous combustion).

[near wyvern]

Haven't tested the shotgun in real builds yet

[lyric burrow]

shotgun feels fine although i havent done a ton of testing yet

would deffo take assail though

falloff is notable on it

although generally your taking assail with gun anyway

[near wyvern]

Yeah it doesn't work in grinder when it's idle. It might if you enable AI but it will work in actual games.

[patent wing]

doesnt work with AI and i never saw it working ingame but i will try it

nah i cant xx

[hardy raft]

didnt the buff to stagger resis for the ogryn variants all across the board made it impossible to open up bulwarks with assail?

[near wyvern]

🤔 that's a good point, will have to check that again now then

[hardy raft]

if you didnt update the guide

most likely you cannot open it

it used to open on psychiarium

now they wont budge

at all

[near wyvern]

Cause it was definitely possible some patches ago.

(Link timestamped to relevant part)

https://youtu.be/1qF5JthpWXg?t=761

[hardy raft]

this was back in carnival, yes?

rinda boss onn normal missions

[near wyvern]

Yup

[hardy raft]

then the bulwarks wernt buffed to smitherens

assail wont work against bulwarks now

[patent wing]

dont see how it opens up there, i only see some stagger

[hardy raft]

they are too resistant now

[hardy raft]

it used to open up

after they buffed the stagger resis of bulwarks, massively, now it cant

best bet if you have a force sword is to do the PA cause that knocks them down regardless of what they are doing

[near wyvern]

But even then, you shouldn't use 3 ammo to open a Bulwark and hope someone follows up

If you wanna open them for team use a duelling sword or BB

Or smite

[hardy raft]

smite is kinda bad on bulwarks

[patent wing]

ah yeah at the beginning i see it opening up but wasnt sure about team members hitting it

[hardy raft]

only because they have 4.8k health now

[patent wing]

i can kill it with 4 shots with unyielding

[near wyvern]

Not of you have a zealot in byblade mode and they are about to ruin his day

[hardy raft]

still nukes everything else though cause EP smite was megabuffed

[hardy raft]

zealot kinda dying breed when their kit was nerfed

crit reduction didnt get any compensation...

[near wyvern]

I still take guaranteed rager 2 shot

[patent wing]

rager 2 shot works without dmg on stagger too

[near wyvern]

Bulwarks are nothing but walking closest. Ragers molest you.

[cosmic sigil]

it's good you don't have to use crit cdr and if you do, knife is not really affected

[hardy raft]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-balh-blah-balh-bla-bla-shut-up-bro-gif-25742861

[patent wing]

unless there are 5+ of em

[hardy raft]

i hate bulwarks

[patent wing]

ahh some1 understands me

[near wyvern]

Just don't go stand in a corner

[patent wing]

they will make the corner by themself

[hardy raft]

i pick thunderstrike instead of brumentum

for my shield

just to fuck with bulwarks whenever

[near wyvern]

Only if you allow them to. They follow you like a puppy on leash.

[hardy raft]

hitboxes forces you to move like that

ragers arent much better

[patent wing]

yeah but u still 2 shot ragers on body

[hardy raft]

but you can in theorey stagger them

[near wyvern]

Use the force hitboxkin

[hardy raft]

to elaborate on this, opening up bulwark shields is p free with a shield(just push twice) but you cant do push-push-PA-H1 to stagger bulwarks even further and kill him in 1 cycle

[patent wing]

anyway the biggest problem the bolt gun has, is that it does not generate toughness like a ciag or accatran

[near wyvern]

But in the end after bleed the second blessing doesn't matter that much

Especially if you have +flak and +maniac

[hardy raft]

ciag also doesnt

nor acatran

[patent wing]

60 shots which can give me toughness per crit

[near wyvern]

You can get the toughness on elite kill for it if you want

[hardy raft]

mettle. fair.

[patent wing]

vs 8 shots which can give me toughness

[hardy raft]

only ones that do the best with it is... autopistol(inspiring barage) and bolter variants(gloryhunter)

[patent wing]

u can facetank a chaos spawn with ciag mag dump

[hardy raft]

and revolvers i guess

[near wyvern]

But with toughness regen on 3 curios, puppet master, soulstealer (+ assails) and essence harvest I have no toughness issues with the bolt pistol

[patent wing]

toughness regen only works in coherency

[near wyvern]

Yes

And while not near melee mobs

[patent wing]

i always assume that my team is dead or play solo straight up

[near wyvern]

Well that's easy you have toughness packs walking all over the place then

[patent wing]

but yeah, elite kill toughness would be nice i think.
i always think about toughness regen on hit as some form of lifesteal

[near wyvern]

Each elite & specialist is 30% (essence harvest) and trash packs are free to pick up with assails (mettle + soulstealer)

People are so locked up on DD they forget essence harvest is a thing

DD is amazing, don't get me wrong, but on weapons which have high crit and weak spot modifiers

It makes big numbers go up big

But on weapons with lesser crit and weakspot modifiers, it makes small number go less small

[patent wing]

yeah true with bolt pistol the wc path is ice

[near wyvern]

All the way to warp battery along the right side of the keystone is the way to go for the bolt pistol

[hardy raft]

im glad psyker gets a shotgun now

even if it can be scuffed

[near wyvern]

It doesn't need to crit cause it hits so fucking damn hard even without a crit

[upper sun]

fuck shotguns give me staves

port all vt2 staves

[near wyvern]

We got staves at home

[upper sun]

staves at home :surge

[near wyvern]

, * bonk *

[upper sun]

GIVE ME UNIQUE SPECIAL ATTACKS

[upper sun]

GIVE ME AN AOE STUN FOR SURGE AND A RAPID FIRE MODE FOR VOID

[hardy raft]

tbh surge is great

imho one of the most unique staffs psyker has

[near wyvern]

Surge is good yes, shines a lot in the infinite smite build for kill stealing those warp charges

[hardy raft]

vet: killsteals you back

[upper sun]

surge is pretty fun though its the only staff i explode on 😭

[hardy raft]

i rely on revolver for such menial activities

[near wyvern]

They gotta reload, I don't

[hardy raft]

plasma:

[near wyvern]

Also, the biggest reason Psykers are op:

They gotta aim. I don't.

[hardy raft]

its still slow

i use revolvers for my EP smite build cause of it

gets killstealed every time

[near wyvern]

I used smite revolver when smite gave True Aim stacks, it was hilarious

[hardy raft]

it did what

[upper sun]

cant wait to put elite on my baby

[near wyvern]

When they fiddled around with the smite and surge staff targeting things for the VFX they accidentally made it deal damage to different body parts.

The end result was that surge staff was targeting limbs half the time which made it randomly deal 50% less damage. Same happened to smite but the difference is less dramatic when you are dealing 60DPS to begin with.

But the neat part was that smite (and surge staff) were able to target the head as well. And when you smite a horde, if only took a second or two to top up True Aim due to the amount of heads you could hit.

[hardy raft]

so free crit

[near wyvern]

That went on for a good while before they managed to make the damage back to how it was but keep the visual.

[hardy raft]

imagine that with

DB manstopper

[near wyvern]

Yeah sound be funny

I can't get manstopper cause I am too high lvl. Gotta wait for shop to have it.

All my guns roll T3 and above

[hardy raft]

i made a alt

to farm it

kekw

[near wyvern]

What level is the shotgun unlock?

Cause I considered that but was thinking how high I need to crawl in the mud

[cosmic sigil]

Around 10 IIRC

[near wyvern]

That ain't that bad I guess

[hardy raft]

20

for psyker lvl19

vet is 22 lol

[near wyvern]

Fuck, I'll just wait for crafting update or shop to drop it

[hollow current]

Give me servers that don't drop me first.

[near wyvern]

I have all classes at max already

[near wyvern]

Not that one

The double barrel

[cosmic sigil]

so sad you can get it on other shotgun so quickly

yeah

[hardy raft]

raising my 6th class tho

[near wyvern]

The double barrel doesn't share blessings with regular shotguns

[near wyvern]

Why

[hardy raft]

not it shares any semantics

[hardy raft]

tier 2 blessings

[near wyvern]

All for nothing when the crafting update comes

[patent wing]

https://youtu.be/nmCIGtGq7zs?si=9t3p4cPYMGMZTcOl&t=15

can i have this as a staff

[hardy raft]

crafting update is said to be transferred from the blessing pool we have to the XP of the crafting update

better start collecting tier 1 and 2 blessings

[near wyvern]

I'll just buy off the shop

[hardy raft]

yes

[patent wing]

wat

[near wyvern]

And what I don't have I will deal with it

[hardy raft]

but for getting specific shit(like flechette) is a good idea

[cosmic sigil]

i know

[hardy raft]

your trolling man

[patent wing]

why

[lethal lagoon]

I'm kinda thinking it might be more fun to just experience the new crafting system

[hardy raft]

i will anyway

cause

im poor

[cosmic sigil]

if you have only t4 it would be stupid not to get all tiers during the transfer

[hardy raft]

and dont have tier 1,2 blessings

[lethal lagoon]

Like you are already going to get a huge boost, there's no need to up it higher.

[hardy raft]

nor i have money to spend buying one

[near wyvern]

I'd rather play auric damnation than go to the desert towns to get my shit

[hardy raft]

id gladly take desert towns to get 500k plasteel or something idk

[patent wing]

auric maels but only grey weapons and no points

[lethal lagoon]

BTW, anyone buy anything good on sale?

[patent wing]

what would u pick

[upper sun]

THRUST 4 LEARNED

[hardy raft]

unfortunately thrust is bad.

that stat is near perfect tho

[upper sun]

nuh uhhhhhhhhhhh

i see thrust

i get thrust

simple as

[hardy raft]

its bad

[upper sun]

ur bad

[hardy raft]

HV/SC does more leverage

[patent wing]

we already tried it and thrust is ok

[hardy raft]

than thrust

[patent wing]

irosk coming to tell u

[wind spruce]

I think it's pretty much guaranteed that even if you have every tier 4 blessing unlocked for a weapon you won't get enough xp to immediately have tier 4 after the update

Thrust has its place

[patent wing]

fun fact im lvl 320 as psyker and i dont have uncanny 4 for duel swords

[wind spruce]

It's absolutely not bad

[patent wing]

game refuse to give it

[upper sun]

-100 mastery

[cosmic sigil]

how so? that would be such a fuck you to all players

[cosmic sigil]

i waited a year to get thrust 4 on the hammer

[mighty olive]

dang, so all the new outfits look like iron man except psyker, which i play the most xD i dun like the psyker one, but is good drip this week

[wind spruce]

That's how I interpreted the dev blog

[cosmic sigil]

Also i spent millions trying to get it

[wind spruce]

I'd have to look at the wording again to justify it

[lunar hollow]

to be fair here, as a very loose guess there'll be systemic things that means even if you start with all t4s from existing blessings you still have other ones to earn

bloodthirsty/manstopper/ceaseless barrage etc are getting stats added (or getting nerfed) to be in line with a tiered system

so there won't be tier-exclusive blessings anymore

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA QUICK PLAY WONT STOP DROPPING ME IN THE NEW MISSION

played it 4 times now

[lethal lagoon]

I actually really like the psyker one as a standalone, but it definitely feels like we got relatively shafted.

[lunar hollow]

a lot of those tier-exclusive ones atm are t2/t3

so even in the most conservative sense you'd still have those to unlock

[cosmic sigil]

yeah and i am ok with that

[patent wing]

guys is there a VR mod for darktide

[hardy raft]

sunder

bloodthirsty

[upper sun]

tbh we all knew that was bound to happen eventually

[patent wing]

fat shark pls

[cosmic sigil]

i am not ok with having to get t1 and t2

[hardy raft]

tier 3 bloodthirsty is like the

funniest shit

80% crit

why

[lunar hollow]

i mean it really depends on what "progression" looks like for a player with a head start

it seems like you'll be able to go over the 380 max base rating

[upper sun]

i dont even want to

just give me my perks and blessings and fuck off

[hardy raft]

they wont

[upper sun]

i have a bricked 380 base of almost every weapon

[hardy raft]

some rumors about weapon mastery points gonne be earned like current grenade/skill specific penances

which means do dumb shit over and over

[tawny raptor]

wsg fellas, i havent played for abt half a year can anyone gimme a run down of what the meta for psyker is rn?

[upper sun]

thats fine

as long as i get a possiblity of getting what i want at the end

i spent 4mil dockets trying to get a surge

never happened

[hardy raft]

well do you wanna get thrust 4 by

killling 10 monstrosities with the hammer

[upper sun]

to get mastry points on the new eapons

err mis read that

in game

yeah i dont think its gonna be like that

just play the game

[hardy raft]

eh

some of the grenade specific penances

or the aura penances

made you do so

not farfetched to expect this would be any different.

[upper sun]

well

i already have all the gear i want

killing 10 bosses with my hammer to get that extra +5 % unyielding is a big deal

but i think its just gonna be play x games to go from any t3 to any t4 depending on your mastry

[hardy raft]

hope its like that

[spice veldt]

depends since penances so far is just cosmetic stuff

presumably they're going to be smarter about gameplay stuff

[hardy raft]

eh

its fatshark

i dont trust them

[spice veldt]

that's fine

but i trust playtesters to some degree

[lunar hollow]

i have enough faith that if they do decide on a bad-feeling progression system theyll listen to the playtesters when they say "this fuckin sucks"

[spice veldt]

it's important to set the context of our current crafting system in the fact that it's a makeshift system that they made for the launch

the majority of patches has been fatshark fixing stuff and so far it's been a good net positive direction

if nothing else, the general skeleton of the new crafting system seems like it has more to improve on than what we currently have even if they mess up

[lethal lagoon]

All staves good, creeping flames OP, scrier's gaze with guns OP.

[upper sun]

tbh

game doesnt need a carrot and stick

[lethal lagoon]

If you use smite with a shield, you will be visited by a night terror.

[upper sun]

all the time they spent on crafting could have been spent on something else if they jsut removed the locks

[lethal lagoon]

"they"

It's 1 dev.

[upper sun]

poor thing

i weep for them

[lethal lagoon]

I refuse to believe there's a team working on this game.

Except when they pushed out the talent tree update for game pass

[upper sun]

its 1 dude making the game

and 199 making collision meshes

[cosmic sigil]

yes, like the bolt pistol

[upper sun]

its fatshark they dont know how to make rangedweapons

and all the playtesters are ogryn/zealot mains lmao

bolt pistol could use some qol changes

[cosmic sigil]

jsat is psyker i think

[upper sun]

maybe if they made the push then shot combo do extra damage

[cosmic sigil]

what baffles me is that i don't really have a problem with the boltgun handling, on vet and zealot

[haughty star]

is this a useable LMB staff?

[upper sun]

sir thats an 0/4

[haughty star]

for LMB ?

[lethal lagoon]

Blazing spirit surge, stamina crit chance

[haughty star]

it's got at least 1/4 cuz transfer lol

[lethal lagoon]

[haughty star]

lmao

[lethal lagoon]

LMB memes is like one of the few times crit damage isn't complete dog shit.

It's only dog pee

[haughty star]

i was watching a couple videos and it seems racously hilarious lol

i think the milkman wants me to go farm a voidstrike lol

literally never used the thing

[rustic hare]

Apologies if this has been talked to death already, but what's the consensus on the new firearms for psykers? I've been messing around a little bit with the bolt pistol but I haven't used the shotgun much. Is there a psyker build that their good with?

[hardy raft]

head assail shotgun was good

[rich spindle]

scrier's gaze makes guns gooder

thats about it

[hollow current]

Here's a short explanation on Scriers Gaze.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1212179925797310555/scriers_gaze.png?ex=667f4787&is=667df607&hm=4e4a09379eae1b9e2bbd42a0f7e8f71f02c7cd254138dd8d1060025d496dca47&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1083&height=966

[upper galleon]

so they gave electrocute a 10% brittleness debuff with the shock maul update, and smite and surge also get this

https://tenor.com/view/kang-the-conqueror-kang-variants-many-kangs-multiple-kangs-kangs-cheering-gif-13082239200333412930

[lunar hollow]

thats cool

[upper galleon]

smite abusers watching as they get buffed somehow every patch

[lunar hollow]

the pickaxe pulls get a 10% damage buff when u tag an enemy with em

[upper galleon]

it also stacks with this

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark won't rest until support psykers are actually real

[upper galleon]

SUPPORT Psykers please continue sucking ass and convincing fatshark smite sucks ass

had a "support shield smite" psyker today using the smite lmb

watched him try to push back 3 ragers from my downed body and fail miserably

meanwhile now EP smite+ soulblaze vent psykers will be killing entire mualer packs in 7 seconds

[hardy raft]

did anyone confirm this

with code or whatever

also smite buff. jesus

[upper galleon]

according to theorycrafting unless i'm just spreading rumors like an idiot

ANOTHER SMITE BUFF

LET'S GO SMITERS LET'S GO

[hardy raft]

thats the one i spread dummy
but from what i know of i heard that one from a betatester

can we ask magician to confirm this

[upper galleon]

hmm

it should be easy to test with a debuff viewer and surge staff

surge staff can't brittle nromally so

[hardy raft]

dont surge deal wild damage

[upper galleon]

test with saul, test with smite