Builds for Space Wizards

[silk zinc]

Flaming shriek is to get the last ticks on elites in a huge group and set off a chain reaction with perilous combustion lmao. It's not for killing trash.

And to start off the warpfire stacks

Or top them off

And it's a horde game. Any problem can be solved with more DPS. Any wipe could have been prevented if you killed shit faster. Now, that's not the easiest thing to do, that's where handicaps like bubble come in.

Of course if you use bubble agressively, it becomes less handicap, more tool for DPS.

[fleet yacht]

Funny jokes, I see you don't take anything seriously but your ego
You're not the type to listen to anyone so w/e

[silk zinc]

Bubble gameplay is never going to carry an Auric mael 🤷‍♂️ , if you only play premade with a dedicated group and you like bubbling your boys, that's 100% great.

At the same time, if the group is good enough, you'll be in the bubble for half a second before they are in the next room.

DPS is the answer.

Now if t6 was an option, that'd be a different topic.

[fleet yacht]

Nonsense.
Bubble gameplay is the best way to group your team and win games. Coherency is how you win in this game, it's not all about DPS. And pubs are less likely to group, especially without a big bubble telling everyone where to go.

[silk zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/together-rykard-elden-ring-hmmm-demigod-gif-25591712

Together!!!

And then the game ends with 200 plasteel 😦

Cause you were always together.

[ancient marten]

Can't tell if this is ironic or not

[finite lake]

@fleet yacht @silk zinc I already run two builds with bubble, that's why I'm looking for a new one that goes around venting.

Weapons are dueling sword (recently knife, wanna try it) and surge

[covert patrol]

Yea I got skill issue. Even with shirk I blow up myself a lot lol

[fleet yacht]

Trauma staff gives me this trauma. It's nice to see other psykers do it in game too, reminds you you're not the only one.

[silk zinc]

Left ya a free point. You can also very easily swap the keystone on this tree to try the other ones.

General loop is to use surge 90-95% of the time, and then Smite + flaming shriek + smite when the map is drenched in high enemy denstity.

Hope for that perilous combustion chain reaction and just wipe out everything on the screen.

True Aim cause Surge and Smite both generate it atm, but smite doesn't crit, so free surge crit after smite.

Keep in mind Flaming Shriek + Smite is for auric t5s and maels. It underperforms on lower difficulties.

Also, Perfect timing works really well with knife. It doesn't matter if you hit anything, just that it crits, so using the charge attack knife run will generate stacks.

[finite lake]

Thank you! Will definitely try this build later when I'm home

[silk zinc]

You can also drop true aim for 6 warp charges, that's a more standard build.

Or drop true aim for more toughness gen if you are having trouble surviving.

[finite lake]

6 charges probably fits better. Will try without the toughness regen and see how it goes and if I struggle a lot will swap to that too

[molten marsh]

How can I improve this? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ac32690-8f59-4b9e-9be7-0859e6f26f5f/test-134?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[silk zinc]

Based on your preferences, this is how I would change it.

Mettle is really strong on purg.

Peril rduc is unneeded on purg.

Soulstealer also strong on a horde clearing weapon and you have two of them.

5% crit kind of important since purg's native crit isn't high.

Assail benefits a lot from crit too

I would personally use mk4 dueling instead of demios, but it's ultimately what you prefer for killing stuff like crushers and mutants.

Both toughness peril gen talents aren't great on purg because it's not really a peril heavy weapon.

[molten marsh]

Gotcha. I'll give that a shot. Thank you!

[molten marsh]

If I really want KD, what would you suggest cutting?

[silk zinc]

How often do you use bubble?

[molten marsh]

Every horde, sometimes more frequently.

[silk zinc]

So basically every cooldown?

Get rid of 6 warp charges

[molten marsh]

Nearly.

[silk zinc]

and put that in block

[molten marsh]

Danke.

Sanctuary would've been my go to, but that hurts too.

[silk zinc]

You can also drop toughness warp, given you have bubble and empathic.

Just pay attention during a game and see if you ever actually hit 6 warp charges reguarly.

The trait next to empathic evasion, I always forget it's name.

[molten marsh]

One with the Warp

Toughness damage reduction based on peril

[silk zinc]

Yeah, you don't really need that with emphatic and bubble

Ultimately, try both.

[molten marsh]

If I drop that, would it be worth going for the crit aura instead of the CDR aura?

[silk zinc]

For purg, kind of.

[molten marsh]

Bam.

That fills everything perfectly.

Thank you!

What is the curio standard?

I have been running 3x CDR/3x health/2x toughness/1x revive speed with 2x health & +2 stam on the main, but I'm trying 2x gunner damage/1x CDR/3x health/3x toughness with 2 health & 1 toughness on the main.

[silk zinc]

I like 2 toughness 1 hp. Some like to switch one of those toughness for stamina or wound.

I have a mix of sniper, gunner, cdr, toughness, health perks.

I would recommend 2 20% snipers and at least 1 20% gunner.

I also don't run bubble, so I dunno how worth sniper is for you

[molten marsh]

I run the same curios for everything. Don't feel sniper damage reduction is worth it. Just don't get hit (:P)

Felt the same about gunner damage until I started doing auric and there were a dozen gunners in just about every room.

[silk zinc]

Can't always avoid it on auric mael. 4 Snipers, beams through fire and little cracks in the level, eaten sound effects by endless mutant screams.

Ah I read your second sentence too slow

lmao

Yeah, I felt the same way

I think we all have that phase

[molten marsh]

Why do you suggest DS MK4 instead of Deimos?

Mobility, dodge distance?

[silk zinc]

Deimos is like a force sword version of mk4, but worse.

the super slides of dueling sword are nice too, esp after they got rid of unlimited force sword dodges.

[molten marsh]

Worse in what way? Damage? Precision?

I've given it a try, but it didn't feel better. Just different.

[silk zinc]

I mean the role of mk4 is generally speaking anti-mutant and in some cases crushers, maulers, ragers.

And it's just better at that.

You have to hit heads though

It can also horde clear in a pinch, if you are stuck in a corner at high peril.

Though that matters less for purg

With shred horde clear is actually pretty solid

[silk zinc]

demios is a lot slower too, not great in this game.

[molten marsh]

I see, I see.

I'll give it another shot. I actually like that the Deimos is… wider.

[lusty elm]

Anyone have an updated build for scriers gaze with infantry autogun?

[silk zinc]

#psyker-class message

He reguarly got 1 mil+ in maels.

[lusty elm]

thanks big man

[pliant steeple]

infernus dumdum is still the best combo on laspistol right?

[atomic spade]

infuris dum dum is a mmeme actually @pliant steeple

dum dums good id suggest ghost instead of infurn

[pliant steeple]

?? really, since when. i heard many times it was good

even on zealot board

the pinned builds suggest infernus/dumdum

[ruby gull]

read that name. never listen to em.
The only thing required for laspistol is dumdum. Infernus for is for extra damage on top of that, but other options are also good

[silk zinc]

Ghost on a psyker crit build? Kinda redudent.

[ancient marten]

ghost is nice for consistency, the crits and empathic arent as reliable as ghost

ghost lets you "face tank" multiple reapers

[atomic spade]

VINDICATION

[ruby gull]

holy fuck

the new laspistol

[ruby gull]

holy fuck
the new stims

you get to accidentally blow yourself up even MORE now

new laspistol my BELOVED

[hot eagle]

is gun psyker REAL!?!?

[ancient marten]

Definitely

[ruby gull]

gunker has always been real

[velvet saddle]

What would be a good set-up for new revolver scier's gaze magic space cowboy

[ruby gull]

probably the normal gunker setup still

[rustic igloo]

I've been loving your build so far, any chance for an update?

[rustic igloo]

❤️

[brazen badge]

Anyone have a Brain popper build mainly for that one penance that wants you to kill that monstrosity

And is there any key differences when using the force staff and the flame when going down the skill tree ?

[silk zinc]

Do you play pubs?
Do you hate not being in 1st place for Damage?
Do you hate switching weapons?
Do you hate not having infinite toughness when dozens of ranged units are shooting at you?
Well, here's a build for you, literally just spam Surge Staff and flaming shriek non-stop. That's it.
Which melee weapon? I'm sorry, melee?
Watch out for trappers, your brain shuts off with this build about halfway through the mission.
Do not smite in more than 3-4 encounters in a game. Just throw a couple surges to reach 85% and then flaming shriek for hordes.
Auric Mael approved. Feel free to grab KD instead of BM.

[supple ridge]

curious about the scriers gaze, how do you use it and how is it?

[ruby gull]

want damage?
want crit?

press f, shoot gun

[supple ridge]

yeah but it mentions using a surgestaff and such

[ruby gull]

that's a different person

original post says dueling sword voidstrike staff

so
want damage?
want crit?

press f, stab with dueling sword

or throw assails

[opaque jackal]

what would be a good support build? i like purg staff and combat knife foe faster mobility

I use bubble the most

[silk zinc]

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This one is solid, grond is also one of the better players. You can be sure it's better than a vast majority of builds. Switch it to bubble if you like.

If you have a good surge, you can also do this build, but replace with bubble. It really is braindead plus you are stunning things constantly with surge.

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[opaque jackal]

thank you!

[opaque jackal]

I could use purg or should I use the surge staff?

[silk zinc]

Which build you rolling?

Also I didn't notice your purg comment. I'd run something more like this for purg;

You can switch BB for smite for support if you like, but there's a lot of crossover with purg and smite

Plus BB you can take out bombers and snipers, the former being a big issue atm.

[cloud parcel]

Probably the strongest Gun Psyker build (imo):

• Assail: Assail is just strong with Gun Psyker; it frees up your ammo drag, and means that you won't have to be greedy with team resources as long as you pace yourself. Using Assail to manage most trash enemies along with your Combat Knife, whether low level (Groaners + Poxwalkers) or mid level (Stalkers, Riflemen, Bruisers), will leave ammunition for when you really need it; Elites, Specialists, Monstrosities, and the likes. Sometimes mag dumping into clustered trash is completely fine though. It's also one of your two best methods of regenerating Toughness; Warp Kills and Critical Hits, for Soulstealer and Mettle respectively.

• Combat Knife: This is entirely here for movement speed, high single target damage, and to help maintain stacks of Malefic Momentum. You're going to have to get good using the Combat Knife, but it offers incredibly high DPS vs certain targets, like Crushers, Maulers, Muties, Monstrosities, and the likes. Also, using Assail to stagger Trappers, Dogs, Flamers, and other dangerous enemies before closing in can mean an incredibly quick kill.

• The ideal combo for hordes is Push Attack > L2, simply for safety, but the push attack is very strong, and the follow up lights

• The ideal combo for single targets is any of the following: Push Attack Spam, H1 > H2, or H2 > L3. All of them have strong single target DPS.

• Columnis IAG: Columnus IAG is the highest DPS option in your kit with this build, making it ideal for deleting threats you need dead, and it's crit strings means you're constantly regenerating Toughness and gaining i-frames as long as you're hitting crital hits. True Aim, high crit chance, and Scrier's Gaze makes this incredibly easy.

• Why Empowered Psionics? Empowered Psionics instead of Disrupt Destiny due to Columnus' already high base performance with crit strings + True Aim, and since Assail can snowball with the Empowered Psionics Keystone; this, with Perilous Combustion, essentially makes it your "AOE".

• Why Prescience? Even more crit chance is always going to be good for this build, always. Seer's Presence doesn't do enough for Scrier's Gaze considering the countdown doesn't start ticking until the ability is over, and so stacking crit chance is the way.

• Why Flesh Tearer? Flesh Tearer instead of Lacerate as it allows you to stack bleed while targeting weakspots, and hits max stacks in 2 hits.

• Speed: This is one of the fastest builds in the game, but you need to make good use of your critical hits and Scrier's Gaze to make this effective; it could be even faster with Disrupt Destiny, but Empowered Psionics offers more to your neutral game.

• I-Frames: Empathic Evasion, dodges, and dodge slides are your best friends. Empathic Evasion triggers on any critical hit, meaning that every critical hit of the 4 shot long crit string on Columnus IAG will trigger the Talent, along with Mettle, meaning that as long as you're Toughness isn't outright broken, then you'll avoid hits and keep regenerating Toughness against ranged enemies for as long as you land crits. Get used to making a lot out of your dodges and dodge slides, too.

• Glassiest of Cannons: You will eat shit with this if you're not good at the game; it's entirely reliant on game sense and movement speed to keep you safe. You have to know when to give up ground and how fast you can move at any given moment, or you're going to be in trouble. High reaction speed is also a must.

• Buff Looping: Most of your damage comes from looping your resources; Assail, Columnus IAG, and your Combat Knife. Stacking up Perfect Timing with anything really, Malefic Momentum with either of your weapons, and keeping Peril high with Assail or Scrier's Gaze will keep you pumping out very high damage whilst looping in between each of your resources. Looping between all of them is the key to high overall damage, and consistently absurd DPS.

[silk zinc]

You ever use Scrier's for just assail or mostly ur gun?

[cloud parcel]

Mostly my gun.
I only time I ever use Assail in Scrier's is if I ran out of ammo and need something in front of me dead, or if I gotta RMB a Sniper or somethin'.

Scrier's is a precious resource, so draining it quickly with Assail isn't usually the play.

Also, using Scrier's with the Combat Knife against Crushers is another good way of using it.

Combat Knife crits hit like a truck, and higher crit chance means you're more likely to hit max bleed stacks in 2 hits.

[silk zinc]

Thx. 🙏
Did you try running the new combat knife on psyker yet?

[cloud parcel]

Not yet.

Brunt hasn't been kind.

[woeful basin]

Might I suggest, the revolver instead of the columnus?

[ruby gull]

revolver is too slow for gunker builds tbh

[woeful basin]

I beg to differ, given the new revolver. It's quite fast and makes for quick elimination of closer targets while using assail and melee for trash

Different playstyle though

[ruby gull]

personally, IAG still outdpses it with it's stupid finesse damage on close, and how many bullets it can push down range

the only thing I'd say for it is it's ability to kill crushers but

i use a dueling sword for my gunker. i already have crusher killing power

[cloud parcel]

No.

Columnus crit strings gives this build a lot of power, specifically on Mettle and Empathic Evasion.

It also allows for much faster stacking of Perfect Timing.

Crit once with PT, and you're already at 4 stacks.

[woeful basin]

Makes sense to me.

[ruby gull]

I don't touch PT

i just use assail as a toughness regain

everything else
good ol' dueling sword and columnus

[native trail]

any suggestions on a voidstrike/assail/shield build?

[fleet yacht]

It would prob look something similar to my trauma build just replace trauma with VS

Very fun build, I use it all the time makes the game very easy and I don't get sick of it:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad195df-69a4-4458-adb9-e31e8fdb85f0/trauma-psyker-2?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Assial + exorcist feels so nice looping between them

[native trail]

hm

anything that doesn't rely on a specific blessing on a specific melee weapon, and/or random crit?

[ancient marten]

Just roll flurry shattering and enjoy

[native trail]

...shattering?

i don't think that rolls on any psyker weapons

oh i think you meant rending?

[ancient marten]

Oh yea

Rending shockwaves or smth

[native trail]

also i do not like trauma staff, that's why i said voidstrike before

[ancient marten]

Void you can run transfer flurry but I personally feel it's quite underwhelming, surge is just too good

[native trail]

also, does mettle proc per enemy you hit or per projectile?

[ancient marten]

Per enemy hit

[tiny knoll]

anyone got a good talent tree for smite?, quite like the look of it

[half escarp]

https://imgur.com/a/byrPlWb

It's the first build

There's some other smite builds in there as well

[tiny knoll]

tyy

in general are his builds good?

[ruby gull]

did you just post

a claysthetics build

never follow anything claysthetics (or most youtubers) post, cause they're generally garbage

bruh fuckin blazing spirit and shred on blaze sword?
block efficiency on curios???
warp flurry over warp nexus?????????

crit strike chance on dueling sword

yeah no god this is garbage

[half escarp]

They are built around cheesy, fun stuff, as well as braindead meta wins

[half escarp]

There's a line between fun and bad

Lot's of the thrown together builds I've seen are considered bad

But when you can alr one tap stuff does it really matter how optimized it is?

[ruby gull]

claysthetics builds are built around being carried

never follow a youtuber's builds or 95% of darklantern builds. that's pree much the very simple general consensus

because god they have no idea what they're talking about

[half escarp]

Not really? I mean I know that sometimes you can't play the funniest builds with bad teammates but one shouldn't really be playing like a crackhead

[half escarp]

I'd agrue that very few YT builds are good for inspiration and a jumping off point but to each their own

[ruby gull]

Fun builds can also be good.

this is not one of them

[half escarp]

Dark Lantern I have to sort by upvotes otherwise I lose braincells

[ruby gull]

Even upvoted builds can be garbo

evidenced by the top rated zealot build

that one is
ok

but god there's glaring mistakes in it

[half escarp]

I said sort by it not live by it silly

[ancient marten]

People who know the game enough to make their own builds aren't going to be using builds on gamelantern, so naturally upvotes come mainly from newer players

[jolly blade]

/usetalents psyker 17;3|1,4|1,6|1,7|1,10|1,18|1,22|1,23|1,24|1,26|1,29|1,30|1,34|1,36|1,39|1,41|1,42|1,44|1,51|1,53|1,55|1,64|1,65|1,70|1,71|1,74|1,76|1,78|1,80|1,81|1

my gun/melee psyker build, alterating between using gun/melee with gaze for dps pump, shards whenever your inbetween scriers and dont have time to reload, but are not in melee, or for picking off snipers with charged shards

[silk zinc]

Yeah, if I need help I'd just find a good player in the community to ask stuff, no shot I'm looking at random builds on youtube or games lantern.

Esp not with all the videos that said Shield was S-tier lmao.

[ancient marten]

Shield is really good post 13 once it received massive buffs

With the bleed nerfs in 14 it's still a good weapon

[silk zinc]

The shield function is largely useless and in actual fact a negative, so unless it's higher DPS than normal clubs, it's not S-tier lmao.

[tiny knoll]

so where do people find good builds, just getting into the game so im fumbling my way around at the moment

[ruby gull]

uhhh here pree much
Just ask around in this thread or in the actual psyker chat

[tiny knoll]

tyty

[cloud parcel]

Shield is in fact S-Tier imo

Brutal Momentum + Skullcrusher makes it a goddamn power house for dealing with most enemies in the game.

But it's also a trap for newer players, since you don't actually want to use it like a Shield

[feral girder]

BM + SK along with bleed is just disgusting on shield, absolutely vile

[fleet yacht]

I too was strongly against the shield for a long time. But I have seen 2 ogrens out of 50 use it right. It can stagger lock bosses when bashing them in their weakspot, and deal really good damage and stagger if you just spam the shield bash.

[cloud parcel]

Shield does not stagger lock bosses.

You're thinking of Clubs.

Or, the Shield Ogryn in question was receiving help from a Voidstrike Psyker.

[fleet yacht]

Alright, I have to test this my self. I saw this happen to a chaos spawn and a beast of nurgle

[fleet yacht]

You're right, I can't do it

#ogryn-class message

[ruby gull]

wasn’t it shovel

That had the stagger of the sun with its special action.

[cloud parcel]

It got shadow nerfed right as the Club slaps got buffed.

[ruby gull]

was this like patch 13 or recently

Cause I was talkin bout since patch 13 and I forgot which weapon did perma stagger to bosses with next to no investment

[cloud parcel]

Patch 14 iirc

[ruby gull]

then yeah it deserved it

[ancient marten]

The introduction of the foldable shovels means old shovel is irrelevant for now

The punch isn't even that worth it anymore

[cloud parcel]

^

[proven burrow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ad74d07-865e-47b6-890e-2f09c969cd18/last-assail-psyker-on-earth?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
inject crits directly into my orbitofrontal cortex

[hot eagle]

are any of the top psyker builds on gameslantern any good?

[opaque jackal]

the general census that I get from people in here no.

[hot eagle]

hm

alright

idk what to work towards then :3

[opaque jackal]

I'm learning as I go

what do you like?

[hot eagle]

i think smite voidstrike dome is strong

seemed to work well earlier

[opaque jackal]

I will link what somebody posted for me for void strike

#psyker-class message

that link should take you to the build they sent me and it's great

I went with dome instead of venting shreik

you can probably swap perilous combustion and grab lightning storm so you can have that extra CC from smite

very good crowd control

Hope this helps

[native trail]

what is the most aggressive psyker build you can think of?

and is it gunker?

[ruby gull]

probably gunker

gunker or voidstaff

[half escarp]

Voidstaff? You literally are in the back lines until you need to whip out melee for 3 little dudes

[ruby gull]

if you're a coward yeah

[silk zinc]

Lemme just walk up to the rager and do my full 2 second charge 🙂

[ancient marten]

The best part of void is its lack of any falloff, making it great at range

It doesn't mean you can't use it up close, and it doesn't mean you have to use it up close

[thick elbow]

Not mine but it was the first build I ever used on psyker and it's still one of my favourites https://youtu.be/1unwbNyEdeo

[knotty mortar]

anyone have a good brain rupture build?

[proven burrow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ade35bd-2754-472a-ac96-a886469090f7/no-thoughts-head-empty?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

spam fire shriek and pop heads before the vet oneshots everything

[silk zinc]

I was bored, so I made a BB build and ran an auric t5. I used BB about 75% of the time, even when I probably shouldn't have.

Sword, something for horde clear like illy.

Ranged weapon doesn't really matter. Just need something to take advantage of the true aim whenever you are in a pinch. Guns are probably better.

Like if I was at max peril with a mauler in my face, I'd pull out my gun for a shot. Can also use a staff for quicker peril for BB.

2 shields gives 2 BB buffs on demand.

And lets you play really aggressive and just BB spam shotgunner in their facs.

[knotty mortar]

thanks to you both ill try them both 🙂

[opaque jackal]

I keep seeing shields. what does that mean?

[opaque jackal]

This text

how's this build for a purg staff and using Brain Rupture.

[thick elbow]

Any fun assial builds?

[silk zinc]

It's the bubble, but you get the left two talents instead of the right.

[silk zinc]

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Got my first 1 mil damage run outside of a melee maelstrom with this build.

[thick elbow]

Thank

[silk zinc]

Using EP BB but not getting kinetic resonence makes no sense.

Might as well go warp charges.

[opaque jackal]

okay so swap to kinetic resonence

[silk zinc]

If you plan on using BB a lot yeah, but with purg you usually go with warp charges.

[opaque jackal]

I just don't know what to play.

I want different weapon but idk what I like

I don't like void

[silk zinc]

Surge staff and Columbus MK5 are both strong and easy to roll.

[opaque jackal]

I have a surge staff. Haven't used it in awhile

just when I used surge I felt you have to use shreik

[silk zinc]

Flaming shriek does make surge pretty strong, yeah.

Pairs well with smite too

[opaque jackal]

does this have potential to be better than the other or should I just take that warp flurry blessing

[silk zinc]

depends on your stance of tier 3 versus tier 4 blessings.

First one is pretty good.

Having free perks is super nice.

I would personally grab tier 4 flurry off the second one.

For eventual use, but you can also just save it and pop a tier 4 warp nexus on it

And replace infested with flak

[opaque jackal]

I snagged the T4

I felt that was right

is that build in the psyker atheneum good ? example build part 1?

[silk zinc]

For surge? Not really. I'd do something like this. There's 2 free points, so dealer's choice;

[opaque jackal]

I will say I like combat knife a lot

idk if that changes anything

[silk zinc]

Knife is great

Not really.

DD is super fun with knife though.

[opaque jackal]

maybe both free points in both other perks in smite?

[silk zinc]

Those are pretty useless for right click smite.

[opaque jackal]

what's DD?

[silk zinc]

The right keystone

Bottom right of talent tree

[opaque jackal]

is surge usable with DD or warp charges just better

[silk zinc]

Surge is actually pretty decent at grabbing DD targets

But warp charges are definitely better.

[opaque jackal]

so I see a lot of people not take the last perk in the warp tree.

or builds I should say

I figured those 2 extra warp charges would be a must

[silk zinc]

If you are spamming flaming shriek, it's questinable how often you are hitting 6 charges.

[opaque jackal]

that's true

[silk zinc]

Also, a lot of builds really need that extra point

So dropping the 2 charges is often worth it.

[opaque jackal]

what 2 perks would you prefer?

[silk zinc]

I'd grab an extra 15 toughness and Battle med usually, cause I'm lazy when I use surge and like to just spam it into ranged mobs and groups.

Kinetic deflection and 2 extra warp charges is probably more "orthodox"

Kinetic deflection and wildfire is also an option.

[opaque jackal]

I feel this is more me lol

I do like the purg staff but I feel weak against range units and crushers and maulers.

so I don't like to use as much lately.

[silk zinc]

I play pretty aggressive and purg just doesn't feel that suited for it.

I play purg a ton before patch 13, but it feels like it's been left behind.

[opaque jackal]

yeah I tried to play it like that but your right. it just drops off vs maulers and crushers

so I don't play aggressive wit hit

I play more support with it and try to BR what I can

[opaque jackal]

I just don't use smite very well

[opaque jackal]

does blessings on weapons work on smite?

also any good psykers I can watch and see how they play? maybe I can see stuff they are doing and I'm not

[silk zinc]

@vale hound Has some good psyker videos.

https://www.youtube.com/@swaggarinoblackarino7347/videos

Probably better to ask in the psyker main chat

For videos of gameplay and stuff

[silk zinc]

I don't think so.

[ancient marten]

Jsat has like one video at the start of patch 13

I learnt alot from that one video though

I've been sleeping on channel sliding

[opaque jackal]

I like using surge staff the best and using smite but why wouldn't you want to use EP instead of warp charges?

[silk zinc]

Warp charges = peril reduc and base damage for everything.

So longer smite, more surge.

You can do EP, I've run it, works fine, but having surge damage is more helpful in bad situations.

[opaque jackal]

I of course didn't realize that

well thanks for mentioning surge and smite. I haven't used it in a few months and I'm having fun

I haven't used Trauma staff at all. I want to try that

[silk zinc]

Trauma with Blazing and Nexus is amazing

[opaque jackal]

yeah I just gotta get nexus

still waiting to see tha tblessing

[brazen badge]

Looking for a sciers gaze build that uses guns instead of staff anyone got any?

[thick elbow]

You mean gun-psyker?

[ruby gull]

gunker build yes

[silk zinc]

#1158835513789272126 message

[cloud parcel]

Doing god's work, pal

[vale hound]

Tru all youtubers are trash especially this dude agentchaos. Super bad.

[marble bison]

You don’t really make build videos though, just showcases of what you’re playing and how

[vale hound]

I am not cringe enough to claim builds.

[ancient marten]

Builds are like just playing the line game it's not complex enough to have fully original stuff

[thick elbow]

Found this build earlier, fucking absurd how good it is https://youtu.be/8sj-V9yVPFs?feature=shared

[vale hound]

Nah he got lucky.

[vale hound]

https://youtu.be/LIblNd7RN9w

Wow he got lucky again

[thick elbow]

Must be some luck huh

[elfin mulch]

Highlander psyker build I'm running.

Just press F and aim for heads.

I like the shredder as it procs your automatic headpops quite reliably. Revolver works fine too, though.

This is primarily a melee build, though. If your Gaze is on cooldown, lean into the weapon special and cleave them heads.

[cloud parcel]

Shredder is kinda shit.
You should replace it with a Columnus Infantry Autogun

Also, Slaughterer > Executor for Illisi Force Sword, too.

[sly knoll]

was this nerfed?

[vagrant cradle]

yeah

[sly knoll]

damn

https://tenor.com/view/michale-jordan-cry-gif-11250207

[pliant pagoda]

Columnus Gun psyker is fucking nuts

[meager sinew]

Anyone with a good Columnus can do well tbh

[muted ravine]

if i say didn't wanna use funny wizard swords what would be good to use instead

ive seen a whole lot of deuling sword use are they any good?

[half escarp]

Yes they are very good

[muted ravine]

alright thanks! any advice on which to use?

[half escarp]

Mark 4

[muted ravine]

thanks!

[sly knoll]

can u link ur columnus? i tried one on vet and it sucked monkey balls

[pliant pagoda]

Its good on psyker because of the damage buff perk

[sly knoll]

oh good point

i mean people like it on vet, but when i tried it, it was slower to kill than with my grap

[pliant pagoda]

Dum dum and uhh

[sly knoll]

unless im using the wrong version

[pliant pagoda]

Speedloader are my prrks

[sly knoll]

is urs the torrent version? i think that's the only one ya?

[modest hornet]

So ive been out of game for a while, is there a way to make purgation good currently?

[flint ocean]

I think that Darktide YouTuber Ryken made a video on Purgatus staff builds and tricks to get it to kill Crusher groups too (mostly Uncanny Strikes on a Deimos and using the Force Push to get weakspot stacks at range, plus stacking higher with Venting Shriek), but in practice, it's pretty hard to execute on a few Crushers at once to the point I'd rather just Deimos them

[wooden notch]

My blaze trauma build:

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9affd44b-9270-459d-b407-ec153c4f1c1b/blaze-trauma-3

Can do this for carrying on auric. Is built for auric/maelstrom

[wooden notch]

FYI, this is a primary trauma and sword build. I only use assail as I would BB or to take out a group of spread out gunners. Psy aura I don't get much value out of as I don't use shriek often unless it is a large horde or panic button.

[wooden notch]

Edited it to this since I am apparently leaving dmg out without perfect timing:

[half escarp]

Smite+ venting shriek soulblaze

[vale hound]

Xd

[half escarp]

It's fun Chaos you can't lie

[vale hound]

That tree is a bit too goofy for me but if it works for you

[half escarp]

It is very goofy but works very well in practice

[vale hound]

Only 3 points in warp siphon is so little.

Feels wasteful.

[cloud parcel]

Yeah

Warp Siphon is expensive to build into and expensive to reach, so you might as well invest

Don't half ass it

[half escarp]

Non blaze tramua build

@delicate fulcrum

[delicate fulcrum]

thank you my good sir

wizard

[half escarp]

Np

[spice dagger]

Trauma staff only has 12.5% crit with this build, taking the RHS crit talents feels like a waste (especially perfect timing)

[half escarp]

This is not a blaze tramua build :)

[compact tusk]

Hey, for blaze trauma, is it worth it to go for wildfire? I'm thinking something like this. The reasoning is that what wildifre + in fire reborn will generate more charges so I can shriek more, but it's really hard to measure if it's better than dropping wildfire for something like battle meditation, kinetic resonance or warp battery.

[vale hound]

Yes wildfire is op - from a blaze trauma enjoyer

Although I also run vampiric thingy rather than in fire reborn.

[compact tusk]

Then what's the point of wildfire?

Fuck it, going for warp battery and psychic vampire instead, just tried a melee scab only and it didn't melt everything like I wanted

[vale hound]

What? Wilfire is just extra damage.

[compact tusk]

Very little extra damage for a point you could put somewhere else for more damage

[vale hound]

[cloud parcel]

Honestly, Wildfire instead of Warp Battery hurts me tbh

I'd much prefer to have Warp Battery

[compact tusk]

Yeah, it should be a lot better

[ancient marten]

The only thing I notice about wildfire is that a psyker can just yeet and go, and the door/vent will constantly have burning trash

But at the same time it's like 1-2 stacks, doing like single digit damage every 1.5 seconds or smth

[vale hound]

Why not both? I have both on my build so you can have both too!

[compact tusk]

Because it's the only point I would want to sacrifice, pretty much everything else feels like it's too important to sacrifice for wildfire which isn't good anyway

Maybe I could sacrifice quietitude and go for essence harvest instead of inner tranquility to outweigh the loss of toughness regen

[vale hound]

I don't have soulstealer 😮

Wildfire too important to me.

[silk zinc]

LMB-only staff builds are perfect for both your fresh psyker and old.
Experience the sensation of inciting genuine terror in the lobby as they inspect your trauma staff.
And terror in ranged units as well as they will literally never be able to fire a single shot.
It's a true meta build(trust me)
🙂

[spice dagger]

im aware of that lol youre still wasting points taking the crit talents without any crit perks or blessings literally only 12.5% chance to proc those talents. perfect timing would never get to full stacks

[spice dagger]

i love that this lets u take a 300 rating trauma into the lobby bc 2 of the stats are worthless lmao

@silk zinc whats ur fav smite and surge staff build atm

[spice dagger]

warp battery is take it or leave it, especially if ur not playing auric maelstrom. ive rewatched a bunch of vods where the blaze trauma psyker only gets to 6 stacks 3-4 times in a game because u drop the charges so often with combat ability

[silk zinc]

#psyker-class message I ran this recently. Mettle and Smite Jump are unneeded, but I wanted maximum lazy meme vibes.

You could swap those for peril block

Well tbh lots of things are uneeded on that build haha

But it's so comfy and relaxing.

I'm scared to play it too much cause I fear I'll completely lose all ability to function as a normal psyker.

[spice dagger]

tyvm, does look comfy haha

[silk zinc]

It helps to do a run or two with all healtbars on so you can get a sense of how much damage EP smite is doing.

It can feel like it's doing nothing otherwise even when it's doing decent.

[spice dagger]

ill give it a whack

[vale hound]

Must be bad psyker pov.

[half escarp]

Nuh huh, I bet if you play heresy or above it'll be totally fine. Besides perfect timing is a staple psyker talent

[compact tusk]

@silk zinc Did you try it with voidstrike yet? I'm thinking it might be better because of the stat interactions with LMB.

Nvm, just read the tooltip for blast radius on VS and it doesn't seem to affect LMB

So trauma and VS has access to the important blessings, their damage stat seems to scale LMB damage equivalently and they have the same amount of useful stats (3), so it doesn't really matter which one you go for.

Surge staff has crit bonus, but no surge blessing, so I guess it's worse

[silk zinc]

I think it matters for when people inspect your weapons
Surge also doesn't have transfer peril, which for anti-horde/boss matters somewhat, but I don't know how useful it is overall.

[compact tusk]

Yeah the inspect factor is really important tbh

[vale hound]

Blaze trauma meme showcase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PRiD-sWsNQ

[compact tusk]

Let's give LMB Voidstrike another spin then

Nah, I'm too bad at handling gaze with staff

[silk zinc]

LMB with gaze just feels so awkward

it get's so jolty when gaze has been running too long, and then I just have to sit there and let gaze run out, then quell.

[compact tusk]

I started charging just to generate up to 100% faster and then quell and keep going

But that's too annoying to do mid combat

[silk zinc]

It feels absolutely sluggish mid-combat

Like I'm a DnD wizard asking my party to wait a moment as I leaf through my book and bag.

[silk zinc]

I tried the LMB staff without scier's and it felt so dookie. I think scirer's might be required, gonna try a few more times.

[compact tusk]

Haha yeah, with gaze it's easy to 2-3 shot gunners, without it not so much

[silk zinc]

I also found flaming shriek wasn't that useful. It's just too addicting popping hordes with the staff.

[ornate kayak]

Imo flaming shriek's best use has always been to clear out ranged enemies that are out of range of your Purgatus

or your fire Trauma

and giving the synergy with the soulblaze kills give warp charges thing

[silk zinc]

I like people always jumping in to LMB-only meme discussions with unrelated takes

[wooden notch]

I swear I just played with a guy using your meme build but acting like he doesn't know anything about the game lol

[silk zinc]

Unironic LMB build usage, based.

[spice dagger]

no mate, the difficulty doesnt matter. with that low of a crit rate on a trauma staff its just a waste

[spice dagger]

no, some of the best out there

[vale hound]

Wut

[spice dagger]

fairly self explanatory

[vale hound]

Sorry sir me noob.

[spice dagger]

are you agentchaos lol?

@vale hound id put you up there as one of the best my g haha

[vale hound]

Nope definitely not me.

I am being selfish in war.

[spice dagger]

[chrome totem]

why use trauma staff for this tho? why not voidstrike where the staff can benifit from surge for both LMB and charged attack?

[silk zinc]

(LMB)

That scoreboard is 100% LMB only.

Well I mean I meleed a little

But otherwise LMB only

[chrome totem]

pls consider my question again

what im wondering is not why you do lmb spam, i understand that its very powerful. what im curious about is why you dont use voidstrike so you can use charged attacks for crushers and deal big dmg with surge blessing? Cause surge for some reason, doesnt apply to traumas charge attack

[silk zinc]

My brother, the point of the meme build is to only use LMB

I just happened to have a useless Trauma with Surge. I don't tend to have useless Voidsrtikes with surg.

[chrome totem]

ah i see its a meme build

[silk zinc]

LMB spam is more effective than you'd think though, it was fun.

[vocal pebble]

https://streamable.com/xqqhbi i present this as an alternative to lmb spam

[wet fern]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_q7UiJh85CU&

Assail, Fanning Revolver. Congrats, you can now kill everything from ranged. Bring your favorite melee

[half escarp]

The funny charge spam

[half escarp]

I've only done this kind of crap with the aiming revolver

Going to need to try this

[wet fern]

The near instant reload makes it so nice. Crutian Roulette + True Aim makes it crit very often so Hand Cannon just wrecks crushers + anything else Assail has trouble with

It's great, outside of Assail Psyker I can't justify using the Fanning Revolver lol

[half escarp]

Some very complicated vet shit might be able to pull off smth similar

Not nearly as ez as spam funny blue rocks and then use spam revolver

I assume you use warp rider as well?

[wet fern]

Yeah

[half escarp]

Then definitely spam rocks and switch to revolver spam

I guess ds4 for melee would be best?

[wet fern]

I use Reshaad with Headtaker/brutal momentum. With enough DD stacks or with +25 flack/Unarmored your light attacks will kill 4 brusers/dreg melee with each light attack

The melee can be whatever you want, since you have a ranged option for killing any enemy

[chrome totem]

Is it heretical to dip mettle for while using voidstrike? I think perfect timing, soulstealer, perilous combustion and battle meditation are the most necessary perks. So as to partly offset not using mettle, i can run warp expenditure and get both perfect timing and battle meditation. I think battle meditation is very good just for the simple reason that it functions as a venting shriek for voidstrike: it lets me keep shooting for longer

[ancient marten]

I don't take meditation, it's fine to just quell a tic or two between balls

Also I would rather go DD, it makes your assail much better

[silk zinc]

I've been watching mettle a lot and even on surge it can feel not worth it at times.

[ancient marten]

Mettle is better than the alternative imo 🤷‍♂️

[silk zinc]

Probably, but it's nice to have build variety and convince myself otherwise.

[wooden notch]

Mettle is much less reliable than soulstealer on trauma.

I get perfect timing is fine for extra dmg, but I would much rather have soulstealer than mettle

[ancient marten]

I'm comparing mettle to (toughness on generated peril), since either are required for perfect timing

[spice dagger]

Mettle is bonkers on trauma because it hits so many targets

Every crit = full toughness

[wooden notch]

Soul stealer = every kill is more toughness. It may just be how I play trauma that soul stealer is better for me.

[compact tusk]

It probably varies depending on your current situation. Using trauma vs a horde of zombies and soul stealer is probably better, but vs a group of elites mettle probably has the edge because you can regen toughness while you kill them

[pure junco]

hi

this is good for surge staff?

barrage or flurry?

[marble bison]

Barrage is trash. Flurry is best-in-slot alongside Nexus

[spice dagger]

@silk zinc @vale hound it's time for smite only

[vale hound]

Yes it's op.

You play ep smite or warp charge smite?

[spice dagger]

I'm playing with ep

I'd prefer warp charges I think

More fire

Voice chat just went a little nuts when I sat there smiting a pogryn

[vale hound]

Best smite usage.

But yeah atlas prefer ep, I prefer warp charges for more creeping flames spamming.

[spice dagger]

EP just wasn't up that large of a percentage of smites, tbh. Not when you're using it on everything

Ima run it back with souls

[thick elbow]

Tanners not in chat, post smite builds before it’s too late

[silk zinc]

Join my OnlySmites for only $3 a month for all my smite exclusive content

[dire holly]

surge staff already stuns terrifying seems kinda redundant

[silk zinc]

#psyker-class message

[thick elbow]

Lmao fucking nice

[meager sinew]

Also don't all staves already do maximum suppression in a wider radius than terrifying

[chrome totem]

How do yall build talent tree for trauma staff with blaze + nexus?

[chrome totem]

Lol exact same here except for the last warp charge. I go soulstealer instead

u think the toughness gain from just quietude and mettle is enough?

[wooden notch]

It is for me. Not quite as cushy than stealer when I am in the middle of a horde but it still works.

[chrome totem]

you dont have shield either so its a little yikes

[wooden notch]

F*** shield haha

[chrome totem]

hmm

[wooden notch]

With shriek nothing is alive for the shield to block

[chrome totem]

i mean for blaze trauma, yes

Heres what I go for trauma with nexus + flurry

[wooden notch]

You can also run stealer as well in my tree and get rid of wildfire considering all it does is make things blue

[chrome totem]

thats good tho

more soulblaze stacks on enemies = good, right?

[chrome totem]

with assail nothing is either lol, its crazys strong

[wooden notch]

The dmg it does is kind of pitiful ngl. I guess you can say “everything helps” which is why I run it. But if you need better toughness regen than warp stealer can be an option

[chrome totem]

is it still pitiful if theres only 2 enemies next to the one u kill?

[spice dagger]

Shield is yikes

[marsh raven]

anyone got a good bio lightning build?

[silk zinc]

Normally paired with Surge staff

Get EP stack -> Smite till 85%, Flaming Shriek -> Keep holding Smite.
That's basically it.

[chrome totem]

wasted skillpoint on wildfire

[marsh raven]

thanks btw

[silk zinc]

Nah, EP smite has some pretty close breakpoints with ragers, gunners, etc. Having an extra stack spread and then upped to 7 with flaming shriek can make a huge difference.

Plus I've been running all healthbars on, it's a lot more damage than you'd think.

Don't @ me till you run all healthbars with wildfire

[chrome totem]

EP smite is not a playstyle. Smite is a tool to clutch games. Standing still and doing next to no damage just to freeze all the enemies is compensation for having bad teammates who cant deal damage or just being purely delusional in thinking constantly smiting is an acceptable playstyle. When you do need to buy them time because youre being overwhelmed, it's good. For the love of god do not use EP with smite. It is NOT a damage tool, it's a clutching tool for your teammates.

[chrome totem]

what are you smoking?? Smite doesnt have breakpoints!?!?!?!?

[silk zinc]

I agree it's a bad playstyle from a skill standpoint, but don't be silly. This is me smiting a majority of the time.

And this is a meme smite only run, look at the weakspots and crits

0 weakspots, 0 crits. Only time that can happen is grenades or smite.

I mean look, I'm mostly memeing with the EP smite, its a dumb abilty, it really is.
But it's absolutely a DPS tool when paired with Flaming shriek.

[chrome totem]

Damage alone ≠ being useful to your team. You are helping your teammates build bad habits by smiting everything for them. Use it as a tool not as a crutch for your teammates to melee without retaliation. Before you know it you hit max peril and they fuck up with their positioning and get crushered/ragered/gunnered.

[silk zinc]

First off, these are pubs, they are bad habits incorporated.

[chrome totem]

💀

[silk zinc]

Second, I really don't play EP smite that much to have an actual effect on the palyerbase lmao

If you look at my history, it's largely the same scoreboards being posted. Not because I have bad games with ep smite.

It's because I have no bad games with EP smite, and don't overplay.

When you can get smite to actually be a DPS tool, instead of just doing 200k damage like most smite users, the game is just... weird.

Smite needs a rework.

[chrome totem]

I just dont like that you are letting people win like this. Just to teach em a lesson, smite all game until the middle and then out of nowhere stop smiting the ragers and crushers and see them die like piggybackers. Let them suffer

[silk zinc]

I mean, I think you can make that argument for any of the strong psyker builds

[chrome totem]

nuh uh

[silk zinc]

Also, this last part is half the fun.

[chrome totem]

psyker cant always replace a shout vet

[chrome totem]

what, letting them suffer by suddenly not smiting? If so then im with ya

[silk zinc]

When the vet rushes in to melee the mauler group

[chrome totem]

Let them know they depend on you because of their skill issues and brain rot

[silk zinc]

Like brother, I'm running EP not warp charges.

[chrome totem]

[silk zinc]

It's a 2 second cast

[chrome totem]

[silk zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

Also, you are now legally obilgated to try EP smite with Surge

[chrome totem]

ew no

[silk zinc]

[frank coyote]

Assail + Voidstrike in Auric Maelstrom (I'm on the right)

I need to change one blessing, any thought on it or something I can change ? ^^

[half escarp]

Get warp rider and remove battle meditation

You have solidity

[compact tusk]

Assail and Voidstrike? Why though? They're both for the same thing

[cloud parcel]

No they're not?

[spice dagger]

Not remotely the same thing

[ancient marten]

i used to think they double up on the same role but they are nice together

nothing can beat assail in terms of shooter removal, especially if they are spread out across a room

while void is really good at bunch up things

[compact tusk]

Both are good at clearing hordes and both can be used to snipe. How do they not fill the same purpose?

[compact tusk]

Yeah, this is a point but how often does that happen where you don't have somebody on the team able to take care of it at all?

Going assail also means you miss out on psykinetic aura :<

[ancient marten]

i learned to live the non creeping spam life

[spice dagger]

Those aren't the only two situations. You have dispersed shooters, dispersed melee trash, dispersed gunners and quick moving specialists all of which assail does better, then you have all the bulwarks, reapers, crushers and maulers that assail can't deal with but void can.

You also cannot rely on your team always having someone to adequately take care of shooters for you whether due to team composition, your teammates dying or your teammates simply being pro-occupied dealing with other threats.

[compact tusk]

Doesn't lmb on VS 2-shot a shooter on a well rolled staff? It's not as easy as picking them off with assail of course, but it's not very hard either. Sorry, I just don't really see the reason for using assail with vs when they have so much overlap in what they're good at. Feels kind of like running illisi with purgatus.

[sonic loom]

voidstrike is for dense horde clear along choke points and single target damage (and snipes)

assail is for rapid horde clear, panic situations and auto aim snipes, plus it is a great complement to melee situations where you throw a couple shards, immediately switch to melee and the shards continue doing their thing while you melee

[spice dagger]

This has got to be a joke? It's not uncommon to have dozens of shooters, and they move. You'd have to be an absolute God to take down that many shooters with lmb in quadruple the time assail would.

[compact tusk]

I don't know, I usually just rush shooters into melee or get into cover to either shoot at and kill or suppress them, find a way around them or hope my team gets them.

[sonic loom]

well that "hope my team gets them" bit can be filled in with assail

assail is also great for casual downtime

[compact tusk]

Yeah that's a great use of assail if you're running something like a knife. I'm not against assail or VS, I'm just not sure about the combination.

[compact tusk]

True

Hoping my team gets them is also the last option because it's the one I rely the least on. Only playing with randoms can scar you, haha.

[spice dagger]

Assail is superior to or can impressively supplement all of these options. Assail is usable in melee. You could avoid melee entirely. You can more adequately clear from cover than if you just have void or another blitz. You'll be proccing empathetic evasion, soulstealer and mettle to allowing you to tank more shots.

Voidstrikes biggest struggle is when there's multiple dispersed enemies of a variety of types. Assail really helps plug this gap.

[vale hound]

Assail voidstrike works gud for me

[silk zinc]

Also Assail Voidstrike is kinda of needed with pubs because literally no one kills ranged mobs

That said, watching pubs get trickle killed by a lone ranged mob is pretty funny, "uh oh where'd your toughness go bud"

[spice dagger]

Just like every other sedition psyker

[ancient marten]

Assail and fun time with malefic momentum

[spice dagger]

I'd only pick it if I was using a gun

[compact tusk]

It'd be good with gun if you didn't have to drop psykinetic aura to get it, PA is just too good on gunker because gaze is amazing

[regal walrus]

Starting to get back into darktide and was wondering if there is a recommended psyker leveling build or does it not really matter til I start getting to harder content.

[sonic loom]

Ok so what you're gonna wanna do is fucking book it to Assail

then you can do pretty much what you want

[dire holly]

yeah play psyker for 200 hours then realize that every other class is better and cheaper to build up

[sonic loom]

No way vet is better than psyker bruh

[dire holly]

plasma gun

[sonic loom]

lmao

Voidstrike is infinite ammo

similar role

no self damage

And you have a whole ass blitz to accompany it

vet blitzes are real 😴

[wet fern]

Fanning Revolver is the best pair with Assail. It kills crushers/maulers/Reapers (the things assail doesn't kill) assail opens up Bulwarks shield for fanning revolver, it does great boss damage, and the best part is it reloads near instantly so you are always ready to assail or fan whatever target pops up.

[rapid halo]

If you like big damage psyker is like the best class there is.

[dire holly]

YEAH IF I COULD GET A GOOD ONE

[sonic loom]

Sounds like a you problem

[dire holly]

tru

[silk zinc]

You can literally run Smite-Only memes and out damage most of the player base in aurics, I don't think you can get cheaper to build up than that.

That's literally 0 gear required.

Surge and Purg staff are probably the most friendly weapons to roll in the game too.

Columbus Assail requires about the same level as investment, basically none.

[dire holly]

and you die anyways to the the first boss

[ornate kayak]

Plasma is almost infinite ammo, and improves your team's ammo economy due to Veteran aura. It also only damages your toughness at a tiny, tickle rate. It is paired best with Shredder Frag Grenades, which are, well, really really good, and you get a free one every minute with the most common Vet builds.

The only bad thing is if you have to reload during a high-tension moment

[plain apex]

when people compare voidstrike with plasma

[cold sapphire]

10 = 50

[errant wedge]

I wish we could pin notable things

like..warp battery tip pinned, basic build links to Gameslantern, just like a lil psyker index

[patent cloud]

ask the staff to pin they can still do so

[spice dagger]

What's the warp battery tip?

[errant wedge]

just noticed ppl ask about it a couple times a day

[errant wedge]

bet

[silk zinc]

The penance I assume

[spice dagger]

Ohhhh

[vale hound]

Pin this
"Blaze trauma bad pls buff"

[vale hound]

[vale hound]

But it's bad and do no damage just knocking stuff around

[silk zinc]

[marble bison]

tfw trauma is so bad you randomly queue into an empty lobby

because nobody wants to play with you

[vale hound]

Tru

[ancient marten]

if there was damage numbers you would see each burning thing getting 10/damage per tick

[silk zinc]

But if I crit again they die

[ancient marten]

yea 6 stacks should do it (eventually)

[floral dune]

Wish we had mods who played and could do that

[quasi violet]

Hi new here and a friendless loser on darktide. what would be a good build for the pick up public games I'm playing. As in most people have no mics, level and skill of partners is all over the fucking place, at least one person wanders off to find more loot. I'm not all the way to 30 yet but I'm looking for a build that does all ranges well and isn't made of glass? Not asking for much right? :p

[frank coyote]

try this: #1158835513789272126 message

[spice dagger]

@frank coyote I realise no one answered you about your blessings on the voidstrike

First, I'd chance +crit damage. It's a garbage perk. The way it works is if you do 1000 damage regular and then 1200 crit it adds 10% of the 200 difference leaving you with a 1220 crit. So adding flak or something is just much better. For the blessings I like warp flurry and warp nexus but honestly I've been iterating a lot on what I think are the best blessings. My issue with transfer peril is that it can make it tricky to hit 83% peril for Max creeping flames stacks

[ornate kayak]

Generally with Voidstrike the orthodoxy is you either take the old style spammer with Flurry and Transfer Peril, or the new style elite destroyer with Nexus and Surge

[spice dagger]

Yeah I've toyed with all of the above combinations decided that I like the consistency of flurry and nexus the most. The charge time just feels glacial without flurry, and if I'm running creeping flames transfer isn't ideal. Nexus flurry allows you high enough crit chance to make good use of mettle & perfect timing and has a consistent high damage output with high crit low charge time.

[frank coyote]

so this should be good

[spice dagger]

Yeah that's great

Are you running creeping flames?

[frank coyote]

creeping flames ?

sorry I still don't know everything about the game

this one look's also interesting

[frank coyote]

oh you mean the talent, yes

[spice dagger]

Yeah all I was gonna say is that transfer peril makes it hard to get up enough peril to get full use of creeping flames. It applies six stacks (the max) when you're at 83% peril and above

But honestly if you like transfer peril it's a great blessing

Especially while you're not super experienced

[frank coyote]

I just test a build without this, it was very difficult with the assail + voidstrike build

[spice dagger]

Yeah it's so much peril generatiin

[frank coyote]

maybe with transfer peril It's good

[ornate kayak]

If you are doing Transfer and keeping your peril low that way, why not run Shield or something

Void flurry is great hordeclear

You can probably get by without fire shriek

And you don't need the peril reduction / safety net aspect of Shriek then

[spice dagger]

It's not for the peril reduction, it's just that transfer is anti-synergy with creeping flames

[ornate kayak]

Yeah, it's one or the other imo

If you run Shriek, you want to run as hot as you can

[glossy cliff]

Whats a good build for early game?

[ornate kayak]

Assail is insane for early game

Most of the staves suck until you can get a high rolled one, and in particular Trauma also needs the right blessings. You can probably make Surge, Purgatus and Voidstrike work though, but when I levelled my Psyker I just used a gun (these days probably Columnus Infantry Autogun if you can get it, Agripinaa would be fine too, or maybe a laspistol)

[glossy cliff]

I found a build bubble smite support but early game I think thats pretty dumb huh 0 dmg and smite seems weird with no coms

[ornate kayak]

Infantry Lasguns are all decent too

[ornate kayak]

Yeah don't do that lol

Bubble maybe but I wouldn't start with Smite, there's nothing spooky enough to justify it below Damnation

[glossy cliff]

okay i was going to switch to assail or soulblaze build

[ornate kayak]

The Perilous Combustion node is very powerfuk

Powerful

So take that with basically anything

Apart from that, if you take Shriek, definitely take Creeping Flames too. Also very strong, but precludes the other abilities. But I think Shriek is best for beginners anyway (and most experts too)

@glossy cliff when in doubt, see here https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

It's an excellent primer for Psyker. Don't take the specific builds as being absolutely concrete, but do pay attention to which skills it says are surprisingly good or bad

Like, Perilous Combustion very good

Wildfire usually very bad

(With one possible exception that you don't need to worry about until you've hit 30 and are specifically trying to make a Fire Trauma, and even then it is very dubious)

[glossy cliff]

How do I use soulblaze?

Do I need a special staff?

[cold sapphire]

a bunch of stuff applies soulblaze
Venting Shriek (upgrade node to the shout ultimate)
Purgatus Staff
Perilous Combustion
Blazing Spirit blessing on the force swords, voidstrike staff, and trauma staff

[glossy cliff]

oh that makes sense, this build tells me to use trauma staff

but i need blessing

I saw someone casting a flame from their hand

[ornate kayak]

Purgatus staff does that

Good beginner and late game staff. Handles hordes with elites in very well. Bad range. Good stagger. Good auxiliary boss dps.

[static fox]

Is the finesse too low or is this worth upgrading?

[ornate kayak]

That's a good question Rhonda

[static fox]

Imma try

What does one want for the duelling sword, uncanny and shred?

[ornate kayak]

Uncanny 100%

I dislike Shred because my DS4 is a mutant assassin mostly

I don't get to farm Shred stacks

I have it and it works but I would rather have Riposte

[spice dagger]

Riposte is king

Shred is for tryhards

[spiral cliff]

rampage for horde flex and uncanny because it slaps, 2 poke mutants easy enough and light attack spam hordes into mulch

[ornate kayak]

1 poke, even

[spiral cliff]

in my case its a skill issue, have to fully charge with max warp charges and hit the head while in SG, so just getting a body poke that leaves them with 1 hp is also okay because allies will usually take it out

[flint iris]

finesse is rly important

cuz it affects your multipliers and gives you attackspeed

I wouldn't settle with any less than 78-80

[fresh turtle]

What kind of builds are you guys running for trauma? The ones listed in the Psyker Athenenum?

[ornate kayak]

I like bubble, brain rupture and enhanced psychinetics for it

With crit aura because I use Blaze trauma

With an anti-mutant melee weapon (I take Deimos for Deflector mostly but Duelling Sword IV is another great choice)

[marble bison]

BR, CDR aura, Shriek and EP keystone with Blazing Spirit Trauma

The Athaneum has solid build ideas, though

[ornate kayak]

Yeah, I think Shriek is a bit more popular for it

But both ways work depending in what you feel like you need more

[fresh turtle]

Yeah, I was leaning shriek, but didn't consider EP. Is that mostly for fast BB?

[ornate kayak]

Shriek doubles up on your strength and saves you from overperil incidents, Bubble corrects your weaknesses

Entirely for fast BR yes

Also it's the cheapest keystone

Since you always take Warp Rider anyway

Warp Charges are very expensive to run

[marble bison]

Fast and strong BR

EP gives BR a lot of damage

[ornate kayak]

Since they are under some bad filler talents to get there

Trauma has to BR quite a lot

I run Bubble mostly to give me more space to BR

[fresh turtle]

ahh gotcha. Appreciate the advice!

I usually run voidstrike, wanting to try something new.

[ornate kayak]

Trauma is functionally similar to Voidstrike but opposite in gameplay I guess

Another strong all-rounder with a high skill cap

Just bear in mind you will probably suck with it for a couple of games

It is worth the learning curve

[vale hound]

If you're based you run my build with blaze trauma for maximum damage and carnage.

[ornate kayak]

@fresh turtle See attached for my trauma build. Wildfire is very questionable but I think it works well enough specifically for blaze trauma (don't bother with it on purgatus)

[fresh turtle]

I'm into carnage, lets see it. 👀

[fresh turtle]

I don't think i'd ever played a build without solidity, but this looks interesting.

[ornate kayak]

Solidity is very skippable

[vale hound]

Build at start. Use whatever melee you want.
https://youtu.be/BmMGD1ev5rE

[ornate kayak]

that whole bottom left leg is just a point tax to get to warp charges imo

[fresh turtle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b55be7f-1b39-48be-ae42-2213ba91fe8d this is what i'm running right now, def room for improvement

So semi-related, but athenenum has damage as a low prio modifier for burn trauma, but everyone I see using trauma is using one with a 80% modifier

[ornate kayak]

I disagree with its take on that tbh

A blaze trauma doesn't stop being a trauma

you still need the epicentre to kill stuff

because 1: it's powerful and B: it doesn't crit every time.

[vale hound]

Yes bad advice. Damage is only dump on purga.

Although ideal dump on purga for me is warp resist so I can get high peril faster.

[spice dagger]

Remember that the atheneum is just one guys opinion. There's a ton of good information on mechanics but a lot of the stat modifier, perk and blessing choices in particular are highly questionable

[ornate kayak]

It was less collaborative than Ogrynomicon?

[compact tusk]

When I run blaze trauma 2/3 of the damage comes from the staff, so I'd say damage is pretty important

My numbers on the right

Slightly less than 2/3 but whatevs

Oh and I'm also running both PC and Creeping Flames, so the warpfire damage isn't even all from the staff

[silk zinc]

Sure, but the difference between 60% and 80% isn't 20%.

I mean it's definitely not a dump, but it can be a bit lower than optimal and not really matter for trauma.

[spice dagger]

This idea of the staff damage doing 2/3 and needing a high damage modifier also doesn't account for the fact that trauma will be massively overkilling a lot of things it hits. Even if you hypothetically did lose 20% raw damage, if that didn't affect the break points on lesser enemies you're hitting (which for most of them it wouldn't) you still wouldn't lose 20% of your total-mission damage

A 20% increase in staff damage might only cause a much smaller increase in total staff damage

[compact tusk]

I'm pretty sure the mod subtracts overkill damage, no? Yeah I'm not saying the staff is absolutely shit with 60% damage, I know a 20% difference doesn't actually mean 20% less damage. However, I wouldn't say damage is a dump stat either.

[spice dagger]

Scoreboard mods subtracting overkill damage is completely besides the point...

[compact tusk]

Is it? If part of the argument is that a lot of damage on trauma is wasted because of overkill and we see numbers that are with overkill subtracted and it's still a substantial amount I wouldn't really say it's beside the point

[spice dagger]

You're overthinking it.

It's simply that if something already one shots the majority of enemies, adding 20% damage will not increase your end of game damage by 20% because you're adding to the overkill and nothing else more often than not.

Eg if you one hit 30 x 500 and 10 x 1000 health enemies with a 500 damage shot you do 20,000 damage.

If you then hit them with a 700 damage shot you do 22,000 damage, which is only a 10% increase.

I'm not saying damage is bad, just that it gets diminishing returns as your damage gets higher

[ancient marten]

For me the most important metric is to be able to oneshot bruisers

With high damage roll you can get away with lower charge to oneshot groaners etc, more is good but not deal breaker

Performance against elites is mostly non-issue because with the amount of cc you can afford one or two extra blasts here and there, and no way you using trauma for boss damage lol

[spice dagger]

Yeah imo this is the most important reason to want higher damage. Anymore is icing and has a less dramatic impact than reaching that threshold

[compact tusk]

That makes sense!

So what is the % breakpoint for oneshotting bruisers? Shouldn't be too high if you account for warp charges and warp rider being active most of the time

[vale hound]

Around 73 or so for no warp charge bruiser breakpoint.
#psyker-class message

[spice dagger]

Bruis' 'er? I don't even know her!

[ancient marten]

Crusher?

[finite lake]

Does anyone have a good gun psyker build? Will be my 1st try at it and I'm thinking about going with a revolver, how does it sound?

[ornate kayak]

I see a lot of people using the revolver for that, you could probably do that as a more hybridy gunker build

I've only ever really done autogun psyker

[finite lake]

And what would be a good build around it? Never tried before and I'm kinda lost

[ornate kayak]

I could give you my autogun build

I'm not really sure about revolver

[finite lake]

Tried it and meh

Not that great

[ornate kayak]

With CIAG, scrier's gaze and disrupt destiny, your damage can be nuts

good with illisi too

but you're so fragile

[spice dagger]

Autogun is MUCH better than revolver

Las pistol is better, too

[opal drum]

i know im VERY late to the party but i do have a space cowboy build i could link you if your interested

[sturdy dock]

can anyone recommend a good brain burst build to knock out penances with?

[spice dagger]

Just take the brain burst talents and creeping flames.

[sturdy dock]

what's creeping flames? is that the name of the perk or is that wildfire?

[spice dagger]

It's a modifier for venting shriek

[hollow zodiac]

Brain burst + EP and you're set

[floral dune]

Spam malice

Ez

[floral dune]

Guaranteed ep on elite kill

Easy penance

My go to is low diff maelstroms at the last second so I can get gunners to shoot the shield

[storm adder]

.

[thick elbow]

Anyone have any new recon builds to go with the recent buffs

[spice dagger]

Talent tree builds? Same as any old gunker build

[sly knoll]

Man, this combo makes the trauma staff FAR more versatile

[cloud parcel]

Very overdue update to what is probably the strongest Gun Psyker build rn (imo):

• Assail: Assail is just strong with Gun Psyker; it frees up your ammo drag, and means that you won't have to be greedy with team resources as long as you pace yourself. Using Assail to manage most trash enemies along with your Combat Knife, whether low level (Groaners + Poxwalkers) or mid level (Stalkers, Riflemen, Bruisers), will leave ammunition for when you really need it; Elites, Specialists, Monstrosities, and the likes. Sometimes mag dumping into clustered trash is completely fine though. It's also one of your two best methods of regenerating Toughness; Warp Kills and Critical Hits, for Soulstealer and Mettle respectively.

• Combat Knife: This is entirely here for movement speed, high single target damage, and to help maintain stacks of Malefic Momentum. You're going to have to get good using the Combat Knife, but it offers incredibly high DPS vs certain targets, like Crushers, Maulers, Muties, Monstrosities, and the likes. Also, using Assail to stagger Trappers, Dogs, Flamers, and other dangerous enemies before closing in can mean an incredibly quick kill.

• The ideal combo for hordes is Push Attack > L2, simply for safety, but the push attack is very strong, and the follow up lights

• The ideal combo for single targets is any of the following: Push Attack Spam, H1 > H2, or H2 > L3. All of them have strong single target DPS.

• Columnus IAG: Columnus IAG is the highest DPS option in your kit with this build, making it ideal for deleting threats you need dead, and it's crit strings means you're constantly regenerating Toughness and gaining i-frames as long as you're hitting crital hits. True Aim, high crit chance, and Scrier's Gaze makes this incredibly easy.

• Why Disrupt Destiny now instead of Empowered Psionics? Since the update to it, it's so free to maintain and it's so easy to gain stacks with that it just ends up being free damage. All of the bonuses compile together to give you incredible DPS, as well as the ability to hit more one shot breakpoints with your Combat Knife and Assail ADS, on top of stronger Crusher DPS with the Combat Knife.

• Why Prescience? Even more crit chance is always going to be good for this build, always. Seer's Presence doesn't do enough for Scrier's Gaze considering the countdown doesn't start ticking until the ability is over, and so stacking crit chance is the way.

• Why Flesh Tearer? Flesh Tearer instead of Lacerate as it allows you to stack bleed while targeting weakspots, and hits max stacks in 2 hits.

• Speed: This is one of the fastest builds in the game, but you need to make good use of your critical hits and Scrier's Gaze to make this effective; it could be even faster with Disrupt Destiny, but Empowered Psionics offers more to your neutral game.

• I-Frames: Empathic Evasion, dodges, and dodge slides are your best friends. Empathic Evasion triggers on any critical hit, meaning that every critical hit of the 3 shot long crit string on Columnus IAG will trigger the Talent, along with Mettle, meaning that as long as you're Toughness isn't outright broken, then you'll avoid hits and keep regenerating Toughness against ranged enemies for as long as you land crits. Get used to making a lot out of your dodges and dodge slides, too.

• Glassiest of Cannons: You will eat shit with this if you're not good at the game; it's entirely reliant on game sense and movement speed to keep you safe.

• Buff Looping: Most of your damage comes from looping your resources; Assail, Columnus IAG, and your Combat Knife. Stacking up Perfect Timing with anything really, Malefic Momentum with either of your weapons, and keeping Peril high with Assail or Scrier's Gaze will keep you pumping out very high damage whilst looping in between each of your resources. Looping between all of them is the key to high overall damage, and consistently absurd DPS.

Update to this has been long overdue, but it's mostly just replacing Empowered Psionics with Disrupt Destiny

You can easily swap out Reality Anchor with Precognition on Scrier's Gaze too, but I prefer the uptime for the crit chance personally.

Other viable weapons for the build:

Or anything else really, but these are my preferred options.

I know they're really fucking strong, but the idea for this build is to be really fucking strong.

But ye, that's it.

[thick elbow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af3c2f1-4c33-40d1-bda8-2257b7ddbbe8/endgame-psyker-scriers-purgatus-build-auric-ready-guide-by-yobi

Interesting build I found

[marble bison]

Scrier's with WS keystone 💀

Odd choices here and there re: perk choices

[thick elbow]

That’s what I thought until I learned crits give 2 dots instead of 1

Constant crits, constant burn and frequent upkeep. Worth a try sometime

[storm adder]

scrier's purge build

[storm adder]

yes, technically it's +1 stack, not double. but it's unnneeded

20% crit chance only gets you to max stacks ~12% quicker on targets that even live that long

with warp nexus and your talent tree (not going scrier's) alone gives you full uptime for perfect timing and empathetic evasion, so you don't need any more crit chance, including the perk on the staff, it's unneeded crit, 5% crit is about 3-4% faster to hit max stacks, it's simply not needed when you have a proper staff at 76% burn

i could see putting on a crit perk at lower levels where you burn stat is lower, hence being more effective for stat gain, but I cannot support taking it in a proper endgame build

25% flak alone would be much better

same for duelist sword, you need 25% maniac damage for reliable mutie skewering and facing off against the buffed dreg ragers, the crit chance perk is wasted

If you want to run purge, 9/10 vent is going to be your best option unless you want the defense of shield. vent lets you overcap your soulblaze stacks by an additional 6 stacks and is a massive utility and peril cleanser

also, I don't find combat ability regen should be needed at all, with psykinetic's aura node, you get a bunch of cdr already for just playing the game, and you want scrier's to last a long time, you are going to have basically wasted cdr because you still have your buffs and you aren't quell'd and ready to scrier again

tldr, interesting build but it overvalues crit chance and has a few odd choices in talents (ie no kinetic deflection, taking essence harvest over inner tranquility when you already have 3 toughness regen talents

no toughness DR. skips the scrier DR, goes crit aura instead of cdr aura, so no one with the warp

i rate it a 3/10 build

OH YEA it's going warp charges

so ability cooldown curio perk is even MORE wasteful of a slot

[spice dagger]

Essence harvest over inner tranquil is absolutely correct for a regular purg build that has shriek... but with a scriers build it just screams "I didn't think this through"

[storm adder]

yea

it's a lot of autopiloting on "i get +1 stack on crit" without realizing how that actual comes out in real gameplay

[thick elbow]

I wasn’t the one to make the build so I do disagree with some choices but I’ll save any further comment for after I try it later

[craggy tide]

EP BB + creeping flames is the only way I can purg these days.

[dire holly]

same sis

[craggy tide]

Bro is acceptable.

I was just looking at top games lantern purg build, and it doesn't have EE. It's chooses KF over EE. I shouldn't be surprised and yet.

[marble bison]

Games lantern build quality is… questionable, as in any other build-sharing medium

But then you have people doing research like Pygex does and you are more willing to trust that, and eventually come up with your own conclusions re: viability of things

[signal flax]

Is there a more widely-accepted build repository, then?

[silk zinc]

Yeah just ask advice on the discord class channel. Or here.

Games latern is for sharing your build/screen shot of your skill tree.

[signal flax]

good psyker build for someone who's been away from the game for a long time? just coming back now and i'm sure all my stuff is way outdated

i suppose i should rephrase that to something simple to play while i re-learn everything

[silk zinc]

Gonna have to be more specific lmao, what kind of weapons do you have, how are they rolled, etc.
First I guess pick a major part of the you want to play;
So any of the 4 staves, gunpsyker, you wanna use assail or smite or BB, etc.

If you are looking for a simple build, Surge is always a good option

But I have no idea if you have any decent surge staves.

[signal flax]

is this any good?

[silk zinc]

It's okayish, damage is a bit too low.
You wanna swap barrage for warp nexus, and 8% ranged damage for Flak damage.

[signal flax]

surely it's usable for the time being though?

[silk zinc]

I mean you might miss some breakpoints is the problem. If you aren't one shotting gunners/shotgunners, it might feel way worse than it actually is.

But yeah, It's usuable.

Here's a standard skill tree for a Surge build

The general playstyle is spam Surge Rightclick, use Shriek at or above 85% peril basically on cooldown on any big groups.

All ranged mobs, regular mobs, bruisers, and snipers in that cone will die.

So long as you cast shriek above 85%.

Then you wanna pair it with a melee weapon with horde clear, like the Illusis force sword.

[signal flax]

oh, so just use surge to build up my peril and then dump it with the scream?

[silk zinc]

Yeah, spam the surge pretty much the whole time.

Very straightforward

[signal flax]

is this any good for my melee?

[silk zinc]

No. You want atleast slaughterer on Illusis or it feel bad.

I mean it ultimatlely depends on what difficulty you are going to play on.

I assume you are asking advice for auric t5s/auric maels, right?

Here's someone playing basically the same build;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05YaffhEJa4

[dire holly]

smh need some help getting ass

wheres agent

[reef kelp]

Joke build for maximum plasteel
(basically you move very fast)
#psyker-class message

[thick elbow]

Pfffft

[hollow zodiac]

I also need help to get ass tbh

I'm not that good with relationship

[languid sleet]

@still helm

[vale hound]

Best psyker I've seen.

[languid sleet]

@atomic fable

[wooden notch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d1c7c37-2acc-4d60-b975-81f71d2867be/blaze-blast-nuke-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Blaze Blast Build

[atomic fable]

I saw a voidblast build once

[languid sleet]

This is my exact build

I know you copied me and are trying to take credit

Wow

Just wow

|| /s just in case ||

[spice dagger]

Kinetic flayer lol...

Also inner tranquillity+empyric resolve is counter-productive imo

[wooden notch]

When it functions correctly (I still see it hitting a bruiser now and then 😐) it just spreads more fire/helps take out more quickly. Fyi, if you didn’t see it doesn’t hit random stuff anymore.

I also have no clue what you mean by counter productive

[spice dagger]

Seems obvious. Not enough peril to use shriek back to back for 6 stacks

You could take inner tranquillity and kinetic flayer off and pick up 10% crit from prescience and souldrinker

[wooden notch]

You don’t use shriek much with this build.

[spice dagger]

Oh you'd need one more point

[spice dagger]

WHAT

That's the whole point of blaze trauma

Nvm I guess we play extremely different ways

[wooden notch]

Have… Have you tried empyric resolve? I can get off 4-5 blasts in high peril over 2 before the update (where I DID use shriek all the time)

[spice dagger]

I didn't say empyric resolve isn't good?

[wooden notch]

No. But it seems like you haven’t been doing blaze trauma since the update. Which is all I have been doing

[spice dagger]

It doesn't seem like that at all

It seems like we play it differently, because I actually shriek a lot

If you're shrieking a lot (the whole point of the build) then you don't gain enough peril if you have inner tranquillity aswell. You struggle to hit 84% on the second shriek

[wooden notch]

I did shriek a lot before too. This build is for almost pure trauma play though. The “old” build is this:

Where you shriek a lot

I’ll just say. Don’t knock my build till you try it. I am finding it is actually better than the old play style

[spice dagger]

Bro maybe explain that your build is played differently from every other blaze trauma build 💀

It's also fair game to knock any build that includes kinetic flayer for anything but the meme

[wooden notch]

Used to be. Like I said. They changed how it works (theoretically). And I can’t get to soul drinker anyways unless I also sacrifice Psykinetic’s Aura which I won’t do. Flayer allows for greater controller of any elite/special.

And I don’t need KD

Get with the times old man

[languid sleet]

Nah

F spam

On top

[wooden notch]

F spam is easier for sure because this requires good blast play. But this build (you still shriek...) is just plain better

[languid sleet]

ur killing more slower

[wooden notch]

Uhhh. No? I am killing regular hordes the same (it seems like) but have better killing potential and cc for elites.

Think I am done arguing this cause I bet 100% you guys haven’t even done stuff with ER builds

[languid sleet]

if you have to say "it seems like"

[eager patio]

i want the perfect build to shoot lightning with my eyes

[wooden notch]

Just realized you are probably trolling me. As your /s earlier wasn’t really a /s. You actually did do a very close variation of this build earlier

[languid sleet]

the /s was more about how all blazze trauma builds are all pretty similar, i was serious about being a bigger fan of F spam blaze trauma

This is what im using for blaze trauma and ive found it works best with my ultra aggressive style of play

[wooden notch]

Guess I am leaning more into ER than you 🤷‍♂️

[languid sleet]

ngl idek what ER is

[wooden notch]

Empyric resolve. King of acronyms here 😬

[spice dagger]

Bro we're all experimenting with ER builds haha

[silk zinc]

This is like claiming you are a hipster because you have an iphone

Literally EVERYONE is running ER atm

[wooden notch]

Nah. It is from people criticizing a build with outdated data and/or not coming back with logic

[silk zinc]

You don't even have ER

Or am I confused?

[wooden notch]

You are confused?

That pic was the “traditional” blaze build

[silk zinc]

[languid sleet]

wanna play

my beloved