I meant too slow to "^"
#psyker-class
wind spruce
Is mousewheel what you're using to switch weapons?
lethal lagoon
There's also the little guy past emphatic evasion.
wind spruce
The 5% ranged damage node apparently doesn't affect soul blaze
austere crest
i main primary fire that ranged node makes hell of a diff XD
wind spruce
Which is interesting
lethal lagoon
I feel like you use dagger enough, at least from that clip, that you'd be hitting true aim alot
austere crest
depends on enemy
lethal lagoon
So lots of true aim
austere crest
lmb to rmb is a solid combo alot
but like maulers/ragers just primary to the face they go down fast
kind of low damage high rate of fire as a thought process
wind spruce
If you're using surge tho you've got a high chance the true aim stack is wasted
lethal lagoon
That's true
lethal lagoon
Very true 
wind spruce
Tyty
austere crest
np
wind spruce
Ikr
lethal lagoon
austere crest
i think alot of times, a bunch of primary fire ends up being faster than a charge or swapping, but it depends on how hard u go, bc its basically a front line build that pushes like a zealot but primary fire instead of stabby, its really good backup for knife zealots
Xd time, 3k hours
lethal lagoon
I have a lot of hours, but a lot of it is AFK time.
I have a bad habit of leaving games open and not playing
But I'll be damned if I let it time me out
radiant frigate
how many is a lot
lethal lagoon
1.4
austere crest
i do that with mourningstar sometimes, jsut waiting for reset and forget
wind spruce
Mine is at 2.7k from that habit
lethal lagoon
My real hours are probably 500-700.
austere crest
but its only ever like 30 min max
lethal lagoon
I did it a lot while working from home, basically add 8 hours but never had time to play a game
wind spruce
I'll have darktide open all day while wfh, atleast i used to when I needed weapons
lethal lagoon
^
My curios are stacked though FRFR on CAP on God, $3 a month OnlySmites, Sub now
austere crest
nothing beats taking out a horde while charging at it full speed, and running directly through it like a lawn mower back and forth
wind spruce
Do you take requests 
lethal lagoon
austere crest
haha ill sub
radiant frigate
i am sitting at 431
wind spruce
nothing beats taking out a horde while charging at it full speed, and running di...
It did look hilarious in your orthus vid
lethal lagoon
I was staring at the stamina bar that never hit 0
wind spruce
What does the top of your talent tree look like skud? Everything ticked?
lethal lagoon
austere crest
wind spruce
I like it, and especially like that you didn't take the garbage toughness on peril increase xD
austere crest
so it gets peril generation reduction, and quell 10% chance, so you can shoot for a really long time, tap quell and it goes to 50ish and go right back in it with a couple seconds downtime
XD
2.5%
just kill something
unique mist
This is peak psyker gaming and no one can convince me otherwise
bruh
wind spruce
Yeah I like it. I've been trying void assail without solidity but it's pure cope
austere crest
THE POTENTIAL
unique mist
literally schizo
wind spruce
2.5%
It's not enough. People advocate for it in scriers builds but in my testing it's only yielding 40% toughness back over a full scriers including the reduction from battle med (and thats with my absolutely lawnmowering a horde to extend scriers out for ages to maximise battle med)
Better off critting twice with the columnus lmao
austere crest
i like stupid clutches like this https://youtu.be/TLElFw6Tur8?si=OsOcoC6ON2Mf33Ds&t=254
radiant frigate
This is peak psyker gaming and no one can convince me otherwise
i support this
lethal lagoon
You inspect someone in the mourningstar and this is their build, what do?
They are clearly prepared and ready for level 40 content
austere crest
You inspect someone in the mourningstar and this is their build, what do?
this is everything
lethal lagoon
i like stupid clutches like this https://youtu.be/TLElFw6Tur8?si=OsOcoC6ON2Mf33D...
Brings me back the old days when you could rez with deflector 
wind spruce
i like stupid clutches like this https://youtu.be/TLElFw6Tur8?si=OsOcoC6ON2Mf33D...
Disgusting
austere crest
Brings me back the old days when you could rez with deflector <:HmmApproves:1038...
omg i remember deflector
that is the blessing that teaches psykers to take bullets and not slide XD
lethal lagoon
Oh you died and 8 gunners are shooting at you, don't worry friend, i'll get you up
wind spruce
Brings me back the old days when you could rez with deflector <:HmmApproves:1038...
Just use someone's twin to block shots
austere crest
😮
wind spruce
Who would do such a thing
lethal lagoon
Who would do such a thing
austere crest
This feels like a inside joke
lethal lagoon
I have literally no idea what he means
wind spruce
Skudie
It's what you're doing in your clutch
Melee twin is blocking ranged twins fire
austere crest
oh yeah
lethal lagoon
Oh, i thought there was a joke to it.
wind spruce
Hahahaha
austere crest
thats how u win hard mode in general, kite the melee to the ranged to take out the heavies
lethal lagoon
i have a joke
🪞
feral verge
@spice veldt
austere crest
i did that level for like 2 weeks straight helping randos
its good excersize
idk how to spell
lethal lagoon
I tried to help people with hardmode for a bit but no one seemed to want to run it so I just went meh.
feral verge
i played with arco yesterday
austere crest
the level is fun as a chill level
wind spruce
i played with arco yesterday
R u ok?
lethal lagoon
Legally speaking, my brain can not see spelling mistakes until I hit enter.
austere crest
right? same
wind spruce
ADHD brain go brrrrrr
wind spruce
no cuz its hard having to carry arco
Sending hugs
austere crest
psyker keeps me playing at this point, i just want a melee staff
feral verge
psyker keeps me playing at this point, i just want a melee staff
i would love a staff rework
lethal lagoon
It's such a waste of space for the staff special to be nothing
feral verge
make all current staff's lmbs do something unique
feral verge
make all current staves melee special do somethign substantial, or better yet, be unique from eachother
lethal lagoon
I'd love a 10 man raid
austere crest
yoo
lethal lagoon
Like twins but 10 man
feral verge
psyker, more than any other class needs new weapons (staves)
austere crest
or escorting something through endless hordes
wind spruce
psyker, more than any other class needs new weapons (staves)
Yiis
feral verge
we've been stuck with the same 4 since launch
lethal lagoon
or escorting something through endless hordes
austere crest
i think back4blood had something similar, but nothing like darktide owuld be
austere crest
yeah
lethal lagoon
Cargo I could go for
wind spruce
We haven't had a single new weapon since launch iirc
austere crest
like a tank or something, or uninfexted civilians
wind spruce
Not counting marks
austere crest
the deimos/illisi
wind spruce
Although illisi and deimos basically count
lethal lagoon
They could implement a horde mode in like 2 days flat
wind spruce
Technically new marks, right?
lethal lagoon
There's already a bunch of maps that have "hold" areas too
austere crest
i think diff altogethr because obscurus would be a diff type too, just all force swords
like eviscerator vs chainsword? is that comparable to force sword variants?
lethal lagoon
Illy Mark 8 
wind spruce
I agree in terms of on the ground mechanics difference, but not in terms of technicality
They share blessings
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448>
you stink
austere crest
truee
wind spruce
Like the Agrippina, colomnus and graia autos have different names
mighty fractal
sleepy psyker gaming
i actually just let a crusher overhead me instead of just
pushing him with my sword lol
unique mist
new marks should count
wind spruce
new marks should count
It depends
unique mist
the new hand cannon mark is basically completely different to the old one
mighty fractal
hmm yes i will trauma stagger him with an uncharged blast
austere crest
i actually just let a crusher overhead me instead of just
been there, when u jsut dont give a fuck haha
mighty fractal
fun fact: I only got pick n mix that game after 900 hours of play
wind spruce
But I want more cool psyker stuff
austere crest
remember the EP bug with surge, those were the days
wind spruce
More melee stuff for psyker would go hard
mighty fractal
Force dagger, force maul
austere crest
illisi is still the meta?
lethal lagoon
Remember when people thought EP bug with surge was balanced
mighty fractal
force axe
unique mist
Remember when people thought EP bug with surge was balanced <:whatthefuck_heresy...
it was
wind spruce
illisi is still the meta?
I haven't touched it since pre patch 13. It was all I ran for months
mighty fractal
Staves are a bit more limited, though a port of Sienna's beam staff would be obvious
mighty fractal
especially since an existing Psyker spell on tabletop is... Molten Beam
mighty fractal
illisi is still the meta?
Depends. Illisi is still good for horde clear
austere crest
it was
it was.impossible for the rest of the team, esp paired with endless shards
I feel like its most well rounded for psyker
mighty fractal
Deimos is one of Psyker's best single target options
austere crest
oh yeh
mighty fractal
simply because heavy 2 blasts ass
last sinew
what's a good set up for a palpatine build?
austere crest
ogryn
lethal lagoon
it was.impossible for the rest of the team, esp paired with endless shards
I literally did my whole team's damage with the bug, didn't use it after that.
My overkill was the same as the second place's damage
lethal lagoon
what's a good set up for a palpatine build?
austere crest
yeah i felt pretty bad tbh
austere crest
it was so much, that anyone that saw the surge whether bugged or not would just dip
lethal lagoon
Worst part was I had wanted to run EP Smite/Surge since patch 13.
And it was completely bugged for months, and every new patch introduced a new bug.
So I never really got to till months later.
The -50% damage bug hit me hard, cause I thought I could finally use surge/smte
lethal lagoon
what's a good set up for a palpatine build?
Also, here's probably the most orthodox surge build if you don't like the one I linked.
unique mist
Also, here's probably the most orthodox surge build if you don't like the one I ...
no smite perks?
lethal lagoon
no smite perks?
Keep in mind this crashed my game, so no normal match is going to have this many enemies anyways.
lethal lagoon
The build I linked though is a surge build with smite for emergencies
austere crest
FOR EMERGENCIES
lethal lagoon
Not me running my meme ep smite build during our game
wind spruce
Any heretic breathing is an emergency to atlas
lethal lagoon
you have to admit, that elevator section where they were all trapped up there was funny
lethal lagoon
smite perks also buff surge
That's old news bud
austere crest
and then i saw the trauma one time go full bar, and i just pushed it off
last sinew
I have Smite, Seer's, Shield, and Empowered
I also have both augments for Smite and have turned the Shield into a dome
lethal lagoon
Shield and Smite is my least favorite combo in the entire game.
lethal lagoon
and then i saw the trauma one time go full bar, and i just pushed it off
So much corruption
wind spruce
That's old news bud
I assumed they patched this out when they fixed the EP bug
last sinew
Shield and Smite is my least favorite combo in the entire game.
why's that?
wind spruce
Bc 10% damage on surge would always be worth taking
lethal lagoon
I also wasn't sure sometimes, like "did you get caught on purpose, do I wait for shriek, do I wait for someone else to shriek?"
wind spruce
why's that?
Too much defence, not enough range and damage generally
unique mist
I assumed they patched this out when they fixed the EP bug
no way they patched it out
lethal lagoon
Smite stacks really well with flaming shriek
unique mist
reeee
lethal lagoon
why's that?
No synergy
lethal lagoon
it was so weird not immediately getting dogs off
It felt like a comedy special everytime a dog came by lmao
last sinew
No synergy
in what regard?
lethal lagoon
in what regard?
I can't really prove a negative to ya, Smite by itself is just a dookie tool. It's needs venting shrieks with fire to support it so it's actually worthwhile.
austere crest
I also wasn't sure sometimes, like "did you get caught on purpose, do I wait for...
that was me too
lethal lagoon
Otherwise your team is basically playing man down
Shriek also basically doubles the length you can smite
austere crest
and it leaves you really vulnerable despite stunlocking lots of stuff
i see too many times smite user get destroyed by a groaner to their left or a trapper etc
lethal lagoon
Smite honestly needs a rework, doesn't fit with the game, but while it's here, you need flaming shriek to pair with it.
austere crest
yeah you're right
lethal lagoon
It's super odd, whenever I run my meme ep smite build, I feel like it's a different game
austere crest
i hate the animation down time with smite
idk if it can be canceled, but its like way longer than the rest to start
wtf time zones are we in, its 6:30 for me lol
mighty fractal
I'd rather it be a single attack rather than a long channel
channeling smite promotes bad/boring gameplay, even if it's just Old Surge 2.0
lethal lagoon
How I use smite pretty much(ignore the healthbars, I was testing wildfire)
lethal lagoon
wtf time zones are we in, its 6:30 for me lol
fellow my time schedule is completely fucked 
austere crest
Surge used to be like 7 stunned 2 damaged ish if I remember
austere crest
fellow my time schedule is completely fucked <:thumbsup_ogryn:106345272730218092...
Ditto
🖤
mighty fractal
I don't remember the old target cap
Only that elites/specials would eat up the cap
lethal lagoon
I constantly slide dodge forward with smite because honestly I'm bored and it seems to make my team push forward
I don't know why I've been addicted to playing smite the last couple weeks lmao
mighty fractal
it's mindless fun
mighty fractal
fun to indulge in, sometimes
wind spruce
i hate the animation down time with smite
It's also really clunky to start on slides etc
Makes it so much less fun to use
lethal lagoon
Smiting while sliding forwardish is super satisfying though
You can see it at the end of the clip
wind spruce
Yeah I'd just like to be able to utilise left click while moving a bit more
Doesn't work out how I'd want it to
lethal lagoon
Left click is just weird
I don't know what they were thinking with it
It has a weird delay, weird animation, just fucking weird
I see people claim to use it for disabling trappers, dogs, poxbursters, etc but it's just way too awkward for me
austere crest
How I use smite pretty much(ignore the healthbars, I was testing wildfire)
I like wildfire, I think smite just goes against the grain a bit, the far gunners adhd me so hard
Yeah if u have clip, I can’t picture sliding into smite with that “vwoom “ hand motion
Sliding with trauma and clearing Halls bit by bit tho - makes the voices happy
lethal lagoon
Sliding with trauma and clearing Halls bit by bit tho - makes the voices happy
I meant sliding "into smite" as in sliding towards where I'm smiting.
wind spruce
I see people claim to use it for disabling trappers, dogs, poxbursters, etc but ...
I definitely use it for that but it's just shit compared to if I could do it while sliding effectively
lethal lagoon
The initial cast of both left and right click can be awkward, I dunno if there's a solution to it.
I'd love like a 2-handed hadoukin that just makes a crusher's heart stutter
Make lightning hands melee and skill based
austere crest
I meant sliding "into smite" as in sliding towards where I'm smiting.
Ah gotcha
That would be sick blitz
Like a void strike beam but FAT and staggery
lethal lagoon
Gimme some Psyker power fantasy stuff, but skill based. Kind of the opposite of patch 13 
austere crest
Can still dooo it but doesn’t hit the same for me anymore
hearty crane
Let me turn into a daemonhost for 10 seconds instead of blowing up 
lethal lagoon
Wrack and Ruin on BB hit
austere crest
That would be insane
austere crest
I miss that
lethal lagoon
I just straight up ran a BB build with that
urban sandal
Let me turn into a daemonhost for 10 seconds instead of blowing up <a:UNLIMITEDP...
I always thought it'd be cool if there was a modifier that spawns a chaos spawn or something if you blow yourself up and fully die
lethal lagoon
Bring back wrack and ruin
Wound psyker build when they finally drop the patch that makes psyker explosions an Ogryn Nuke
I'm ready
austere crest
https://youtu.be/0n4V6InwLws?si=2_gK4CJXl8nuXs8M I had no idea what I was doing at this point, but wrack and ruin with wildfire was epic
lethal lagoon
I don't want to watch it, but I can't help myself
I remember when I first played in beta and stuff, I didn't of course know how much stats changed staves, so upon finding out they sucked, I just BBed
I loved BB
austere crest
I see now how much the fast bb didn’t process on ult
Kind of like when venting shriek does nothing at all at the worst possible time
I still like them, but only use them on bosses/ogryns really
lethal lagoon
I ran this to get a feel for the old days
Double shields with BB is actually pretty fun though
lethal lagoon
Kind of like when venting shriek does nothing at all at the worst possible time
It really do be doing that
austere crest
I ran this to get a feel for the old days
seems like a fun one tho
feral verge
there's a good chance that if you use venting shriek when staggered, it will do nothing
lethal lagoon
seems like a fun one tho
it really was. I'd pop a shield in front of a shotgunner pack and BB them down till PC kicked in enough
austere crest
like when YOU'RE staggered?
lethal lagoon
Felt like a combat mage
feral verge
like when YOU'RE staggered?
yes
austere crest
interesting
thats good logic to keep in mind. I also wanna know how this can be avoided in general
lethal lagoon
thats good logic to keep in mind. I also wanna know how this can be avoided in g...
Oh I found a similar bug during my blaze trauma testing
austere crest
i feel like i heard that about being staggered before but maybe forgot
austere crest
Oh I found a similar bug during my blaze trauma testing
this happens whenever i need it defensively in the worst moment
plucky flax
I've been enjoying beed lawbringer shotgun on vet. It's kinda based.
plucky flax
Sounds like skill issue.
austere crest
lol
lethal lagoon
Sounds like skill issue.
plucky flax
austere crest
there is jank somewher in every game, i just hate when the jank makes u die
lethal lagoon
Also, psyker explosion looks so cool from overhead
lethal lagoon
There's really nice attention to detail
If you watch some of the vids in slow motion the pressure wave is so realistic.
lethal lagoon
<:pepesurrender:759374139055931393>
austere crest
when the game is impresive, it really shines
they did get really nice physics in darktide
especially for dogs and muteys
lethal lagoon
The feel of the combat is honestly insane, there's nothing like it.
austere crest
it ruined every other game
lethal lagoon
Imagine a long form RPG with this combat
austere crest
yes pls
give me the mechanics, i wanna take em with me
played battlefield the other day, my brain just stopped functioning
lethal lagoon
I wish there was a thing where companies sold their combat systems or something for other companies to use
plucky flax
3 vets 2 running stealth. So based.
rigid sky
I wish there was a thing where companies sold their combat systems or something ...
Imagine Darktide having the nemesis system
lethal lagoon
Imagine Darktide having the nemesis system
Whoever gave them that copyright needs to go to jail lmao
Imagine PUBG copyrighting battle royales
rigid sky
Doom copyrighting first person shooters
lethal lagoon
Jeez
rigid sky
Pong copyrighting computer games
The worst part is WB just sits on the copyright and does nothing further with it
lethal lagoon
Greeks copyright half of computers with 0
lethal lagoon
The worst part is WB just sits on the copyright and does nothing further with it
Man that was such an amazing game series, honestly kind of held back by LOTR
I feel like they really wanted to get more fantasy and magicky, but couldn't.
AC feels like that too
clear bridge
I feel like they really wanted to get more fantasy and magicky, but couldn't.
Odyssey got pretty magickey
To its benefit
That game is fun as hell
An imperfect ubisoft product of course
But a bit of a diamond in the rough
lethal lagoon
Odyssey got pretty magickey
Right, but it felt held back by the fact that it still had to be "real"
If they just went full myth and shit, hnng
clear bridge
Yeah...
clear bridge
That does have the benefit of things feeling super cool when something like the Minotaur DOES show up tho
You've spent this whole gaming having... maybe a shockwave
Eagle sight
clear bridge
Real low magic
clear bridge
Cool as in a taste of what could have been
Idk, kinda? I'm not saying it's better, but that kind of restraint is very cool
It gives a good vibe
But
Would I prefer wild Greek shit
Just a crazed Greek mythology game?
Oh my god yes
Holy shit
lethal lagoon
I don't mind magic being rare, but it shouldn't be rare because of AC
They tried a greek Breath of the Wild clone, but that was just dumb.
lethal lagoon
Just a crazed Greek mythology game?
I mean they know it works, given we have god of war, I wish they had just sent it with odssesy
clear bridge
Yeaaaa
Alexios is such a fun character
Kassandra is okay too, but Alexios is peak
"Chiare! You look like you have a problem."
"So you want me to kill all the sharks!"
I could listen to that man talk about nothing all day
Such a goofy character
lethal lagoon
I kinda of think it was a rare case of both dual characters being good.
Both had their scenes where they shined more than the other
That said, I think Kass was better as Deimos, Alexios came off kind of whiney as deimos.
clear bridge
Kassandra Deimos was scary man
Good shit
I could see him being whiny
...his best Deimos vibe would have to be like... Jared Leto joker, yknow?
Which is weird
Because he has some fire when he needs it
lethal lagoon
Kass was brainwashed as Deimos, Alexios was... sheltered maybe?
clear bridge
But I feel like it's best when he briefly stops being goofy
clear bridge
Always being menacing... can't see it
cosmic sigil
Also, here's probably the most orthodox surge build if you don't like the one I ...
that looks like my revolver + illisi melee build lol
hearty crane
What are peoples thoughts on the 'Illisi'?
cosmic sigil
it's a very good at horde clearing
bold badger
i never get tired of watching multiple heads getting lopped off in a swing
dreamy sinew
sucks it's so fucking heavy
I feel like I have a ball and chain fused onto my ankle
but it balances it
rigid sky
What are peoples thoughts on the 'Illisi'?
God tier anti-horde, decent at anti-single target too
If Illisi was on any other class it would be overpowered.
If you use a gun or a Surge Staff, you probably want an Illisi.
Potentially Void too.
For the other staves it is redundant.
cosmic sigil
with slaughterer and ustable/uncanny yeah, it's a light saber
and you have a good blessings, 5 dodges
primal plume
rigid folio
im really new to this game, do you guys know any good youtubers that do guides for builds so I can get started?
cosmic sigil
You could check Ryken 14
He made some good videos about basics
Check the pinned section too. For the steam guide.
rigid folio
oh we have guides in here as well, thanks 🙏
rigid sky
im really new to this game, do you guys know any good youtubers that do guides f...
For Psyker and Ogryn, there's the Atheneum and the Ogrynomicon
absolutely invaluable resources for beginner siblings and brutes
for veteran and zealot, idk, ask the discord servers until one o'them jellybrains comes up with a guide for it
but also, before you start playing above Malice level, just slap some points together and have fun with it lol
you can swap talents freely when not on a mission
Building weapons and curios is more of an investment (and also largely pointless before level 30)
rigid folio
but also, before you start playing above Malice level, just slap some points tog...
thanks a lot, my psyker experience so far is just spam smite and get carried lol
rigid sky
thanks a lot, my psyker experience so far is just spam smite and get carried lol
see, if you had a guide, you'd know that the way is to spam assail and carry everyone :)
but it's good to try all of them out
Assail is absolutely nuts pre-Damnation if you want to play the game on mega-easy mode
it's balanced and still good at damnation
but it's broken as fuck below that
I'd also recommend not bothering too much with force staves before level 30, because they can be some of the most stat-dependent weapons in the game.
The game gives you access to the Trauma staff at like level 4 or something but it's basically worthless until level 30 with a god-rolled one
(at which point it's probably the best ranged weapon psyker has)
Purgatus and Surge are a little better for low levels
maybe void idk
but at least not trauma
bold badger
psyker definitely shines after level 30 when you can get higher rolls on gear
rigid sky
that shit's called "trauma" because you try it at level 5 and then it traumatises you out of playing psyker
rigid folio
lmao yeah standing still casting an aoe skill while being smacked by a horde defenitely less fun
bold badger
learning how to dodge properly is invaluable on any class but you really need it for psyker to avoid getting downed in situations where you're getting surrounded by enemies.
rigid sky
lmao yeah standing still casting an aoe skill while being smacked by a horde def...
Psyker really teaches you to dodge
mostly defensive dodge
dry oar
Does surge apply to secondary fire?
rigid sky
imo Ogryn teaches you to do the aggressive dodges because of the heavy attack focus
but that's weird
hearty crane
Full wound Psyker with the intent of only ever blowing up
rigid sky
Does surge apply to secondary fire?
Only on Voidstrike, not on Trauma.
dry oar
rigid sky
For Trauma your build paths are either Blazing Spirit + Warp Nexus or Rending Shockwave + Warp Flurry
and of the two I greatly prefer the former, both for effect and for fun factor.
dry oar
What does blazing spirit do?
sullen sphinx
Fire to rival Purgatus
rigid sky
which isn't actually that much, but it applies to anything that the Trauma hits
including the guys on the very edge of the effect zone who otherwise receive very little damage
It makes it lean more into the mixed horde annihilation side
while the rending shockwave version leans more into softening up elites
although the Trauma staff already has great armour piercing
so you don't personally benefit that much
slim lily
Has anyone tried mk2 force sword?
sullen sphinx
Flurry one can deal with hordes as well, especially with warp charges
rigid sky
Has anyone tried mk2 force sword?
Which one is that, Obscurus?
slim lily
Yea
rigid sky
If it's Obscurus, it's a sad medium that's worse than the other two options
dry oar
Honestly, I'd rather take Rend Shockwave + Warp Flurry solely for consistency, never liked relying on crits
rigid sky
used to love it when it was the only one
rigid sky
Honestly, I'd rather take Rend Shockwave + Warp Flurry solely for consistency, n...
you're spamming enough Trauma blasts that at least some of them will crit. Also you're edging with warp nexus.
slim lily
What’s the difference between that and Deimos mk4
rigid sky
The real problem with blazing spirit is that it's easier to mess up and unalive yourself.
I had to reword my initial comment because I think the server thought I was advocating suicide >_>
dry oar
Lmao
rigid sky
What’s the difference between that and Deimos mk4
Deimos is much much better at killing single targets with the L1 H2 combo
sullen sphinx
Obscurus is a balanced one, Deimos more into single damage and Illisi more into horde killing
slim lily
Ohh I seee
rigid sky
Obscurus in theory should be better at horde killing, but Deimos actually isn't really any worse than it
Obscurus is basically about as bad as the worst side of both of the other force swords
It used to be the strongest psyker weapon too lol
and it's not even been nerfed
slim lily
That’s sad to hear : (
rigid sky
it's just the other two are so much better
slim lily
Then I m just gonna use the other two then
rigid sky
they've obsoleted it
sullen sphinx
Back when it was a single Force sword it was neat
rigid sky
I used to love its janky ass swing pattern
that light attack string which has that random "fuck you in particular" poke
aha, it wasn't the word "fuck" that blocked my message, it was the accidental suicide reference
sullen sphinx
lol
But yea, it's janky, and now I'm not sure if there's a reason to pick it at all
rigid sky
But yea, it's janky, and now I'm not sure if there's a reason to pick it at all
Ultimate hipster value.
radiant frigate
not really one i can think of
sullen sphinx
Flex your skill
rigid sky
stick it next to your achlys combat axe, your tactical axes, and your devil claw I in your cabinet of terrible oddities
radiant frigate
i still have an antique obscurus
rigid sky
i still have an antique obscurus
Hadron ate mine
radiant frigate
deflector/slaughterer
rigid sky
because deflector
radiant frigate
450-something total level
radiant frigate
it was the one i used in The Before Times
rigid sky
but it's FUN
radiant frigate
back then maybe it was
now you have toughness options other than "explode heads"
rigid sky
I feel like it's more valuable now, even, if you don't run the shield power
since gunners and reapers are buggy assholes atm
radiant frigate
how so
sullen sphinx
Yea, it can be neat, but I prefer mobility of the dueling swords, just to run from them instead
rigid sky
they push you back even if they don't penetrate toughness now
Duelling swords are nice because they 1-shot Mutants on their first attack in the string too
Deimos is a little more unwieldy
you have to prep the H2 or get them after the sidestep
DS4 just fucks them in the face on their charge
sullen sphinx
And IV pattern actually solid against hordes with overhead light attacks as well as killing stuff with one poke
rigid sky
And IV pattern actually solid against hordes with overhead light attacks as well...
It's just so quick
it's like a long combat knife
radiant frigate
idk i have had mutant oneshots with my illisi too
rigid sky
and you look like such a spooky weirdo when you hold it
rigid sky
idk i have had mutant oneshots with my illisi too
Impressive, on Damnation?
maybe somebody else shot it first? Or perhaps you crit?
DSIV and Deimos do it consistently, which is what I want
rigid folio
dueling sword with the blue stim increase attack speed is amazing
sullen sphinx
dueling sword with the blue stim increase attack speed is amazing
"I am knife Zealot now" mode
radiant frigate
ds4 i am not particularly fond of
but i suppose it has a place if you use your staff for hordes
or assail or whatever
rigid sky
but i suppose it has a place if you use your staff for hordes
Same as Deimos
rigid sky
Purgatus and Trauma are hordemulchers
radiant frigate
power up, sidestep, light
rigid sky
You don't need melee for hordes at all with those
radiant frigate
which is why i am team voidstrike
radiant frigate
i would also take deimos over ds4 any day
rigid sky
Deimos with Trauma and DS4 with Purgatus
sullen sphinx
I prefer DS4 with Trauma and use it to quickly reposition from troubles
radiant frigate
i guess it does make you run fast
sullen sphinx
And quick Smite RMB to push stuff away if needed
rigid sky
I like Deimos because Trauma stuns stuff for my set-up more, while DS4 is faster swap-stab for a charging mutant which doesn't interrupt the flames as much
But I think they're interchangable
If one works, the other will too
Force swords have almost as good dodges as Duelling swords too
sullen sphinx
Yea, that's true, and Force swords are good if you need to quell mid-blocking without swapping to your staff
sullen sphinx
Too bad we can't use shovels, I would like some shovel Psyker build
rigid sky
Force Shovel
sullen sphinx
But yea, Force Greatsword or some other heavy two-handed Force weapon would be neat
rigid sky
I don't think a psyker would ever dirty their hands with one
Waste of an INCOMPARABLE MIND
sullen sphinx
But I want a big bonking stick in my dream
eager token
what blessings for deimos anyway
i should get me a good one i just have a lame one with rando blessings
sullen sphinx
I like Deflector and Slaughterer/Uncanny Strike on it
rigid sky
I don't like Slayghterer for it
If you're getting stacks then you're using it wrong imo
eager token
i have deflector on my illisi for cheese and tanking demonhosts prob dont want it on deimos
rigid sky
I like Deflector more for Deimos
eager token
uncanny for sure
rigid sky
But Deflector depends on the rest of your kit
eager token
does Deimos attack as fast as illisi?
rigid sky
It's redundant if you run Assail or shield imo
It's moderately fast with its main combo
Maybe average
Illisi is relatively slow from my experience but I tend to spam heavies on it
austere crest
I wish there was a thing where companies sold their combat systems or something ...
i live. and Fortnite did this with their engine, you can build games based on the movetech anf stuff now
prime elk
So H-L-block-cycle?
iirc illisi horde clear is light-heavy repeat
no wait
heavy-light repeat
there you go
haughty star
Tbh it cuts through stuff so bad with the specials lmao. If you got a high peril resist one spamming special is just as easy as a p sword
queen trout
Just put slaughter and shred or uncanny on an illisi and you can light spam hoards
prime elk
been trying haymaker mk6 knife
and... i actually really like it lol
feels way more consistent than i thought it'd be
quasi junco
assail or BB for traumablaze build?
proven crest
bb to save points and get cdr talent
also genuinely not terrible as a sniping tool
especially with how freely you can spam ult with kinetic resonance and warp charges
and psyk aura
and wildfire
eager token
mans really posted the same staff 3 times
austere crest
personally i look for quell speed as the dump stat and make up for it with the skill tree node
i think your 533 seems solid, if you dont mind a little more chaotic stick with the warp resistance. The 536 looks strong, if you don't mind a little less crit bonus.. i like the perks on the 533 but unyielding is like the third best. The 513 gives up too many modifiers in my opinion (ive spent 30million ordos on surge staffs trying to get perfection, its never coming)
feral verge
how have you spent so much
surge's gotta be one of the easier to roll for
due to low blessing count
austere crest
Wait the 513 is like the same as the 533 but less perky
feral verge
low luck stat
austere crest
how have you spent so much
literally for modifier tweaks
trying to get all 80's with a quell dump stat, and everytime I get it , it shitrolls.
like this
OnlySurges, and a rediculous amount scrapped
feral verge
mine
austere crest
The tiny bit of damage difference makes a noticable difference with primary fire, my 380's usually get those damage/crit, or like a 64 damage and i get pissy
feral verge
yea it feels good, for a surge staff
austere crest
this one is the one i main for now its... alright
feral verge
lmb spammer? based
i prefer lmb spamming on a staff with surge blessing
does more dps with surge blessing
than surge staff
austere crest
crit bonus make run n gun most effective on surge, its almost every other shot at high peril
i wish surge had surge lol
feral verge
yeah that'd be amazing
austere crest
Run-n-gun is the blessing I'll die by, its so fun and strong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypVexGw9Xrc&t
i think in game i round it all off though, BB's are clutch with ogryns, knife is clutch, in general
i think general im a really chaotic player tho, reliable, but clearly she's out of her mind
compact bluff
praying they one day fix the run n gun blessing being bugged and inaccessible on laspistol
feral verge
i respect that
austere crest
praying they one day fix the run n gun blessing being bugged and inaccessible on...
recently tried on revolver, its fun, just such low mags
i cant belive how strong that thing is tho
feral verge
Seeing you play makes me wanna lmb spam more
it's slept on
austere crest
yeah
feral verge
i still reccomend surge + warpnexus blessing on a trauma or voidstrike staff
for general play
higher dps
compact bluff
recently tried on revolver, its fun, just such low mags
i will never not run agripinaa revolver with run n gun
austere crest
most of my vids on there the past few months are all refining stamina/run-n-gun build, some are... questionable
I sai this last night, but blasting through hordes like a lawn mower is the biggest thrill, or charging a gunner squad at full speed, between the impact/stagger/rate of fire, not much beats it. Low damage, high fire rate is weaker break points but still fast and bountiful kills
plucky flax
Run-n-gun is the blessing I'll die by, its so fun and strong https://www.youtube...
Do you live in a fish bowl? Me eyes
austere crest
this was the sketchy vid
compact bluff
the biggest thrill to me is when i dodged off a ledge into a vault bug into a knife stab onto a random gunner it was stupid fast
austere crest
Do you live in a fish bowl? Me eyes
indeed!
austere crest
the biggest thrill to me is when i dodged off a ledge into a vault bug into a kn...
flying stabbies are the fucking best
i feel like i have no mercy
compact bluff
the thing is if you dodge into a vault midair, and get the random bug where you jump on vault, it keeps the speed on top of the jump boost
eager token
63 crit bonus is kinda eh anyway
primal plume
63 crit bonus is kinda eh anyway
eager token
weird
i would rather have worse quell speed
or warp resist
i dont think its bad by any means
primal plume
id prefer tier 4 blessings though
smoky mulch
what's the meta on voidstrike? warp nexus and, sustained fire? does susstained even work with it on the larger charge up blast?
austere crest
i think it would be Warp Nexus + Surge or Warp Nexus + Warp Flurry. Sustained fire has always felt off situationally to me. Blazing Spirit and Nexus for the meme, Blazing Spirit and Run N Gun for the lol
Albeit- it's actually quite fun BS with RNG on trauma and voidstrike, but just doesn't crit enought imo
leaden mulch
which one should i replace with unyield?
radiant frigate
what's the meta on voidstrike? warp nexus and, sustained fire? does susstained e...
nexus/flurry or nexus/surge
you can also channel the power of flame with surge/blazing spirit
but i suppose that is not recommended
eager token
i have a surge voidstrike and a weak spot quell peril voidstrike i rolled 10% weak spot dmg on as a perk
feral verge
which one should i replace with unyield?
specialist
eager token
quelling peril on weak spot is just never ending free void strike spam lol
fun for chill games
radiant frigate
@plucky flax you're the resident blaze trauma enjoyer, how do you feel about this
leaden mulch
have anyone try blazing spirit with void strike?
plucky flax
<@150967101836886016> you're the resident blaze trauma enjoyer, how do you feel ...
Is okie.
radiant frigate
have anyone try blazing spirit with void strike?
Yes
it works fine for me but it is hard to say how much of that is blazing spirit
leaden mulch
I wish surge staff have blazing spirit
mighty cipher
The cowards at Fartshart need to put Blazing Spirit on the Puragtus staff.
OH YEAH, is it a know thing that if you pull someone out of a net while they go down it INSTANTLY revives them
lethal lagoon
i live. and Fortnite did this with their engine, you can build games based on th...
Yeah, UE5 and the marketplace is pretty great in that sense.
mighty cipher
Altas I know you’re a techy man. Is the above glitch some freak incident, thing that needs testing, or a known bug.
long wharf
probably an edge condition on player interaction lag
long wharf
wait, what?
lethal lagoon
I waited just enough
lethal lagoon
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376> Altas I know you’re a techy man. Is the above g...
I can't find what you are talking about either
Oh I see it now
So in the creature spawn, "player help" is one hotkey for net and downed
Knowing fatshark, there's copy pasted code
lethal lagoon
There might not be, but if you had to bet on if they just copy and pasted without thinking about it, I'd be a winning man
mighty cipher
”Babe, new Darktide clutch tech just dropped…”
It’s scuffed but an effectively instant revive that costs a wound is actually really neat.
Now the question is was lag a factor.
long wharf
of course
lethal lagoon
I could actually test this in the creature spawner, to see if lag mattered.
Just gotta time a crusher overhead and a net
long wharf
the lag between server seeing the player go down and the rescuer interacting with the netted player to rescue them
lethal lagoon
Maybe use fire and a sniper
Oh no I got it, just stand in fire and time the trapper spawn
mighty cipher
When it happened to me the guy was getting ass blasted by like 3 gunners
lethal lagoon
What was the timing between net and down?
Like he got downed during the unnet anim?
mighty cipher
He was in the net, I started to free him, he goes down, I finish freeing the net, he gets up revived.
So yeah
long wharf
definitely a bug with the client not resetting the interaction once the interaction should be invalid
that's been that way since release
happy little accident.
lethal lagoon
But does it work in the pysch
long wharf
who cares?
mighty cipher
Probably, but it’s still theoretically replicable.
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
who cares?
Excellent point.
mighty cipher
But does it work in the pysch <:hmm:982948419121332224>
So it’s not lag dependent?
lethal lagoon
So it’s *not* lag dependent?
That's what I was wondering
long wharf
likely not
lethal lagoon
Yeah, I'm guessing lag might just make the timing more friendly.
mighty cipher
But does it work in the pysch <:hmm:982948419121332224>
I read that wrong, I flipped the does it first time around. I plead Woopsie.
lethal lagoon
Oh, the help button in creature spawner makes you immortal, so can't test 
mighty cipher
Lmao
We could probably hop in a private and test it that way
Even more scuffed but hey, closer the the situation that created it.
Sup Arco
lethal lagoon
I feel like timing the net anim with a death would take quite a while
mighty cipher
Some form of fire or crusher overhead might do the trick
long wharf
trapper and fire should be all you need
lethal lagoon
Unfortunately, I don't really have unintrupputed time at the moment.
That's what I did in the creature spawner
Unfortunately the help anim in the mod blocked damage
spice veldt
oh yeah, the player being helped up should be invincible right
lethal lagoon
Wait in game too?
spice veldt
i'm pretty sure
long wharf
why would the rescued player be invincible?
spice veldt
idk but that's how I remember it
probably because for reviving downed players and preventing their healthbar from ticking down as they get picked up
and they kept it for players who have been trapped i suppose or whatever reasoning
mighty cipher
oh yeah, the player being helped up should be invincible right
I vividly remember hearing them go down while still in the net.
lethal lagoon
and they kept it for players who have been trapped i suppose or whatever reasoni...
crtl c + crtl v probably
lethal lagoon
I vividly remember hearing them go down while still in the net.
So they got downed maybe right as you hit the button, so maybe server lag is required?
spice veldt
lemme see if i can find footage of a trapped player getting revived in fire to see if i'm right
mighty cipher
So they got downed maybe right as you hit the button, so maybe server lag is req...
There was a delay between me starting it and them going down, I don’t remember if I started right before he went down or if he went down right before I finished.
sinful peak
worth upgrading or dmg too low
lethal lagoon
worth upgrading or dmg too low
Probably a bit too low, but will still work really well as a blaze trauma
I would personally upgrade this.
spice veldt
eh screw finding footage i'll just use bot spawner
marble crater
Upgrade for blaze
long wharf
the sad thing about blaze trauma is that it doesn't feel good to blast things and they not die
at least with rending trauma, things are dying
rigid sky
at least with rending trauma, things are dying
They die with both though
The difference is more that with Blazing it damages stuff on the edge too
long wharf
rending trauma definitely kills quicker
spice veldt
blazing trauma dclaw W
the 400iq move is to run blazing spirit + rending shockwave with skullcrusher on dclaw
apply brittleness and skullcrusher with trauma for maximum support
lethal lagoon
the sad thing about blaze trauma is that it doesn't feel good to blast things an...
But the raidus
long wharf
yeah, but the things that really need killing benefit more from rending
which you're doing in that radius as well
lethal lagoon
spice veldt
i'd definitely take rending with my builds since i primarily always use assail + duelling sword or on melee maelstrom, but i'd say it's more of a toss up in pubs whose damage output is questionable and if you're not making use of it on your other weapons
long wharf
I guess
tulip kettle
i love how i go to bed at 2am last night
get back today and there is a million reddit posts and buzz around you guys exploding stuff in the psykanium 😄
but for real wtf that trauma radius thats insane
lethal lagoon
but for real wtf that trauma radius thats insane
I like watching the difference between 53 and 80
Is so huge
lethal lagoon
Yeah
Also in slow motion, the animation is so well done
With a pressure wave and everything
lethal lagoon
Yeah, I'm not posting this one to reddit
plucky flax
(don't get my toy nerfed)
lethal lagoon
^ 
upper sun
is there a dump stat on trauma?
tulip kettle
damage lol
upper sun
🤔 what about warp? how low can it be?
lethal lagoon
For blaze? Damage is a tiny dump.
tulip kettle
nah but for real not really, i think warp res and wuell are less important
but still important
a dream trauma for me would be 80dmg, 80 radius, 80 charge speed, 70 quell, 70 res
lethal lagoon
I was just about to say that
plucky flax
No dump stat but warp resistance can be lowest at 60 something.
upper sun
I tried messing around with the greys i had i dont think its for me
cant get used to aiming the lmb attack
queen trout
you can get up to 80% movement speed buff on psyker with these 4 perks + rev it up on chainsword. you could even the speed boost on ogryn ability on there too
austere crest
atlas im still fucking with levels to see the height
foggy junco
best compliment from psyker C:
austere crest
and wher it misses with the funnel in the midsection
foggy junco
and wher it misses with the funnel in the midsection
is that a power dagger?
austere crest
is that a power dagger?
hell yeah
foggy junco
now we need power shovel next
austere crest
atlas im still fucking with levels to see the height
it really pays off to slap hordes at a bigger distance
austere crest
now we need power shovel next
😮 dont tease me, i already pput the shovel on my knife just for placebo lol
from this location it is unable to reach these spots
lethal lagoon
atlas im still fucking with levels to see the height
Did you mark the elites to see how tall it went?
👁️
🫣
feral verge
precognition is better than riposte
i'd agree
who is saying otherwise
never heard anyone say riposte was better
hollow current
mostly a reddit thing I think.
austere crest
Did you mark the elites to see how tall it went?
👁️
🫣
y u being smarter than me
lethal lagoon
y u being smarter than me
I wonder if it's 15m, 30m, or just some random number that has nothing to do with shriek's range
lethal lagoon
here we go blaze trauma bros...
austere crest
U want me to tag the ones closest to wher it falls of?
lethal lagoon
My thought process was to tag and then stand underneath the one closest to where it falls off.
Height wise
austere crest
let me see if i can get a path
lethal lagoon
Are you using spawn tweaks and then creature spawner?(and solo)
I was actually thinking magi would be great for this(magi world's number 1 map)
Cause you have adjustable elevation with either the elevator or the stair area aboe the medicad
I just don't know if it's tall enough
Oh I guess the stair area here works too
hollow current
full of mostly dumb/uninformed takes
yeah when i read the psyker advices on there i feel like they're playing a different game
spice veldt
precognition for enlightened assail users
lethal lagoon
All dicussions here are also implied to be about auric t5/auric mael.
Where as reddit you never really know if the person claiming something is good even plays t4.
static needle
I feel like zarona revolver is simply too slow for gunker. You have no way to remedy that slow reload. Youre better off just running laspistol, or am i wrong?
static needle
Where as reddit you never really know if the person claiming something is good e...
to be fair, in #veteran-class, you cant make that assumption either
lethal lagoon
I've only ever really been in Ogryn or Psyker 
hollow current
I feel like zarona revolver is simply too slow for gunker. You have no way to re...
I'm a las pistol gunker. love it. especially when the force push goes through walls.
good way to deal with dogs and bursters in tight situations
static needle
same, also a laspistol gunker. Super fun to one shot gunners on the regular
with DD
hollow current
I really like DD.
lethal lagoon
Revolver covers assails flaws
It's also nice if you don't feel like running scrier's
static needle
I really like DD.
DD is best keystone in general, ye
Only use warp charges for trauma staff since it eats a LOT of peril
and quick CC and dmg is important
static needle
not at all true
lethal lagoon
DD makes my 
monkey brain go brr
static needle
DD is very easy to keep up
feral verge
you can spend the whole game with constant 24%dmg
static needle
just aim 
feral verge
DD just randomly stops working
this
static needle
you can spend the whole game with constant 24%dmg
or the whole game with 2x weakspot damage and murder everything
static needle
DD just randomly stops working
tru, they need to fix that. Doesnt happen often to me tho
feral verge
i murder everthing regardless
austere crest
Are you using spawn tweaks and then creature spawner?(and solo)
creature spawner and will of emperor, basically same
yeah i tried that first with magistrati stairs in first vid, but this one had more verticality with the opening stairs
then i realized i can spawn them on walls so nothing matters
feral verge
i jump, in an effort to extend the vertical range
idk how much it helps, if at all
i try to get ontop of crates and shit too
lethal lagoon
hmm, even 15m might be wrong
lethal lagoon
then i realized i can spawn them on walls so nothing matters
So that bugged for me, some walls work some walls protect them from shriek
austere crest
i jump, in an effort to extend the vertical range
i cannot tell if it actually makes a diff
lethal lagoon
Okay, so I'm getting 10meters atm, will have to check elsewhere thoough.
What about you?
austere crest
the heigh/depth are basically idential as the width of the cone the whole time
radiant frigate
very epic
austere crest
i got this fam, hardcore
tulip kettle
dont go on reddit
while this is COMPLETELY true, i would suggest that precog is, in fact, not better than riposte.
eager token
riposte chads rise UP
lethal lagoon
So flaming shriek should be 10 meters in height.
Jumping doesn't seem to matter
It seems to be a cone as well
vertically
Is what I think I discovered
I made the semicirle too big
fuck
wind spruce
i jump, in an effort to extend the vertical range
Jumping definitely helps as well as holding down left click when throwing
wind spruce
The cone should come to a point at the base of the semi circle, not at the edge
lethal lagoon
A box would help for sure though
lethal lagoon
The cone should come to a point at the base of the semi circle, not at the edge
This is for vertical just to be clear, but yeah, the cone is probably deeper in
wind spruce
Are you sure it flattens off 😮
wind spruce
Very interesting
lethal lagoon
Well, I don't wanna say "I'm sure"
Cause spawning enemies on the wall can be a bit wonky at times.
And I can't get my no skill CD setting to work
So testing is slow
wind spruce
precognition is better than riposte
It's really not
lethal lagoon
Oh here's a good test, what if the bottom target is 30m away, but the top target, simply by virtue of math, is then 31/32 away
Does 10 meters still apply.
Ima go check
wind spruce
I fkn love that we're still testing this haha
feral verge
Jumping definitely helps as well as holding down left click when throwing
im talking about venting shriek
spice veldt
kamehame ha
lethal lagoon
kamehame ha
That's the name I have it saved as 
tulip kettle
i love that this all started
because i tried to make a damaging shriek build
and you guys are such hamsterbrains that youre here 24 hours later working out if its a vertical cone
spice veldt
come for deez nuts
wind spruce
It also started because atlas claimed it was a tube like a scrub
