gameplay-help

[signal apex]

Prolly gonna stay there for a big while

And the limited time fight they meant from those announcement thing is the ambushes they usually do in missions

[craggy minnow]

fatshark is on vacation right now and i doubt they'll take it away until they have something new ready to give us

[signal apex]

I hope they keep it there

Cuz I love coordinating with my team

[craggy minnow]

it might just stay forever!

[storm snow]

Good cuz i can't clear this on damnation lol

[craggy minnow]

i kinda expect there to always be one special assignment

more than that and you run into trouble with matchmaking

so this one might last until the next one is ready, and who knows how long that will be especially if its attached to 2 maps

[storm snow]

I just don't want the insignia to go away

[signal apex]

Imagine this twin fight is just preparing us for the wolfer fight

[craggy minnow]

i think even if they take the assignment away it will rotate back at some point? no reason to throw content out like that

[rustic wagon]

Why does it seem that da biggest umie’ is da boss

[fast urchin]

do shredder nades count for the non bounce frag grenade penance

[hard goblet]

They should as far as I know.

[pure kestrel]

Is it true that the twins have different vulnerabilities? The sister has vulnerability vs ranged and the brother melee?

[torpid kestrel]

Yes, their shields take 300% more damage from the opposite of the weapon they use

[pure kestrel]

Thanks

[crude pewter]

Does anyone know if you can do the orthus bell puzzle in a private match? will that still unlock hardmode?

[hard goblet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1185346095061139566/lpc58sjynh6c1.webp?ex=658f4693&is=657cd193&hm=e12a0fe85b43cee54b2c7abbc4d2a310126938c3627a428484ce75e3d99f0500&
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies/rinda-karnak
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies/rodin-karnak

[glad obsidian]

how can i get this full emote wheel?

[signal apex]

Mod

It's a mod

[hard goblet]

A mod grants you that.

[glad obsidian]

can other hear the yes and no?

[hard goblet]

Yes.

[frosty moss]

@half saddle @novel tinsel @glass lagoon

[fickle magnet]

does anyone know whether corruption resistance and corruption resistance (grimoires) stack? can you get up to 35% resist per curio and over 100% towards grims from 3 of them?'

[acoustic kraken]

Are you limited to a certain # of skill points on the tree?

[fast laurel]

maximum is 30 points, and its relative to the maximum level you can reach in game, which is level 30

[hoary vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-number-four-all-right-give-me-that-come-on-give-me-that-give-it-to-me-gimmie-gif-7477597058293030108

[woeful root]

Corruption res stacks multiplicatively

In general, reductive effects usually stack multiplicatively

[frozen dust]

tyy 😭🙏

[fickle magnet]

Thanks! Just to make sure. Let's say I take flat 50 corruption dmg from grim and I have 2x 20% and 2x 15% reduction. Does that mean after reductions I will have...
50 x 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.85 x 0.85 = 23 flat corruption damage?

[woeful root]

that's how the math will work out yeah

At least, I know that corruption res stacks multiplicatively with other corruption res, but I'm not sure if corruption res and grim corruption res stack multiplicatively, but its a safe bet to assume that they do

[craggy minnow]

My instinct is that regular corruption resist only applies to the speed the grimoire applies corruption not the level it caps out at

Grimoires don't do flat corruption, they corrupt you continuously until you're a certain amount of hp corrupted and the curio stat affects that cap

[woeful root]

Both corruption res and grim corruption res apply to grim res in the same way

And grims do flat corruption

They both affect the initial flat amount of corruption and the flat amount you get over time

[craggy minnow]

Grimoires corrupt to a threshold

Which is the only part of them that matters, does that get affected

[woeful root]

They both affect the initial flat amount of corruption...

[craggy minnow]

Have you ever picked up a grimoire

Or do you know what "flat amount" means

[woeful root]

Yes motherfucker, and I tested it in the psykhanium with the item spawner mod and measured it with a recording

[craggy minnow]

When you say "initial flat amount" do you mean "the cap to which it scales"

[woeful root]

grims always quickly corrupt up to some x amount that i forgot

after which it corrupts slowly

the former is what i'm talking about with respect to the "initial" amount

[craggy minnow]

I see

Why would anyone ever slot grim resistance then

[woeful root]

good question

[craggy minnow]

Not even good for grim runs lol

[woeful root]

i guess if you're in a premade or something or doing dedicated grim runs, but even that is extreeemely niche

dedicating a curio slot just for +5% corrupt res specifically for grims

[craggy minnow]

I'd rather spend the slot on toughness on most chars

[woeful root]

it's certainly one of the more mindboggling things

[craggy minnow]

I don't think xp curios drop at level 30 any more at least

The deadest perk

Its a really weird choice to have xp curios because they make progression a lot faster? But only if you know they exist

[woeful root]

and if you get them early enough

maybe they make more sense nowadays since you can pick a specific curio perk

[craggy minnow]

Yeah now the first curio you get you put level 4 xp on

[woeful root]

i guess if you're grinding out a new character to lvl 30 or something with mats in your shared wallet

[craggy minnow]

Even if its a new char its only like 200 plasteel or something

You should have that by the time you get a curio slot

[woeful root]

yeah relatively inexpensive

[craggy minnow]

The run from 21 to 30 with and without triple xp curios are completely different beasts

[woeful root]

you get like ~200 plasteel from uprising and malice so just some bit of searching should be good nuff

[craggy minnow]

I think you might need to do one malice run because i think it needs a little diamantine

[woeful root]

oh yeah

2-1 plasteel-diamantine ratio

oh right refining and all that stuff is cheaper for lower rating curios

not sure how much it scales but that should make it noticeably more cheaper

[craggy minnow]

Getting through malice with pubs on a level 8 can be tough depending on what class you're playing

[woeful root]

esp if it's your first character

[craggy minnow]

Pskyer especially has a rough time with low budget builds these days

[woeful root]

trauma staff being the first staff they unlock 😔

[craggy minnow]

I think ogryn is pretty easy you can be a toughness regen monster with like 5 skill points
Veteran and zealot both require a certain amount of melee skill to just not die in malice but they're doable

Trauma staff...

Low rating trauma staffs are not good

They don't kill small stuff with a full charge and they don't stagger big stuff with a full charge, and the charge takes forever

[woeful root]

🥲

[craggy minnow]

I think they should unlock as surge - vs - purg - trauma

[woeful root]

yeah, even without the stat scaling, the aiming mechanism takes some getting used to

[craggy minnow]

Its a shame its the first staff because i imagine people are excited to go wizard mode and then its the worst piece of garbage they've ever seen

[woeful root]

ikr

the amount of people turned off from psyker just because of that

[craggy minnow]

Its a horde control weapon that cant control hordes yet given to players who haven't played enough to understand its purpose

[woeful root]

dat 4m-10m outer radius scaling

[craggy minnow]

Give them the darth sidious staff that makes heretics explode

[still helm]

Anyone know if all the basic enemies in the twins fight (specifically hardmode) are unarmoured or infested?

Or is it a mix

[craggy minnow]

oh good question

i think they're the infested ones?

[hard goblet]

There's poxwalkers which are infested.

Scabs which have flak and unarmored portions.

[stoic iron]

there are both groaners and poxwalkers in the hordes within the boss fight, which are a mix of unarmoured and infested

[hard goblet]

As far as I know there's no groaners. Poxwalkers spawn during the gas phase. Scab stalkers, bruisers, shotgunners, snipers, and bombers spawn otherwise.

Scab ragers and Crushers also.

[stoic iron]

fairly certain I've heard some of the usual crying and begging from groaners while in the gas/fan phases

you could be right though

[atomic lily]

Anyone fancy helping me complete the penance "on overwatch"?

[carmine sedge]

is there a way to buy stuff that isnt visible in the vestures store? i missed out on the krieg outfits and I wanna buy them still

[stoic iron]

gotta wait for them to come back

i know in some other games that have limited/cycling cosmetics and other microtransactions you can try getting into contact through something like support to buy stuff no longer available if you have the currency on your account

[bleak hatch]

Do the assassination targets take more unyielding on their shields

Or is it just you know its own armor class

[woeful root]

the shield is its own armour type

[hard goblet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies/

[random lotus]

Hey, I have a general question regarding the Stamina mechanic for Darktide. I've been looking around, but I'm not certain I understand it just yet.

When adding more Stamina to a character, does it work like wounds where you get more segments to an existing amount, or does it actually increase the amount you have overall?

I'm asking with the consideration of making a character with the potential to sprint for a very long time, and wanting to see if more stamina is a good way to go.

[vocal nacelle]

overall its not wound like division

[random lotus]

Thank you!

[vocal nacelle]

stamina doesnt do much afaik

unless you are playing weird vet or zealot

[random lotus]

Yeah, that's more or less what I'm going for. A weird gimmick build.

[slender echo]

Stamina is pretty good if you're good with your movement mechanics and blocking/shoving. It's less impactful on psyker, especially since they can take the talent that builds peril instead of taking stamina while blocking. However Ogryn and Zealot benefit a lot from stamina, Vet is more niche, but it's still nice, especially with the aiming stamina drain perk. That said I wouldn't recommend going triple 3 stam curios unless you're really good with your dodging, or if you're speed running

[craggy minnow]

theres some weapons that really love a 3 stam trinket like dueling saber

which i think has 2 base stam

though to be fair i mostly use it because i like to sprint at enemies and stab them on psyker

[vocal nacelle]

i rarely block while playing ogryn

the only time i use block is chaos spawn or too late dodging crusher overhead

[craggy minnow]

Block push is very powerful

[slender echo]

You don't block on the most immobile block reliant class...

[blissful creek]

[mighty inlet]

> block reliant
> ogyrn
wut

[gaunt kestrel]

Has the flame damage been fixed yet?

[mighty inlet]

yep

just dont revive ppl in it

[gaunt kestrel]

Is it still bad, just not as bad?

[mighty inlet]

you can sit in it for a while now

[gaunt kestrel]

Ah okay

So they dialed back a little of the overcorrection

Was wild to be playing and like your big toe touches the green flames and you get downed

Another question, toughness stuff

There's toughness and toughness damage reduction, I assume that the latter just reduces how much damage a hit does to the same amount of toughness?

[stoic iron]

yes

[gaunt kestrel]

I see

[plush lake]

is anybody having new issues with lagspikes? I've never had it this bad but since the updates I've had lagspikes every 30 seconds

every mission, every server

[craggy minnow]

Yeah its been bad for me

Keeps screwing up attack timings

[mighty inlet]

if this was a lag spike then yes

[craggy minnow]

I have had some funny position reporting issues too yeah

[plush lake]

LITERALLY

THIS

sometimes they fucking go up in the air or down into the ground

and then I clip back into the server and get hit like 7 times

it's fucked

[mighty inlet]

doesnt help that their audio is broken 90% of the time either

[hoary vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-cyborg-magnetism-buggy-the-clown-monsoon-gif-18169826

[vocal nacelle]

Why you block when you can kill everything

Even with ogryn shield, you can still smash stuff with decent dps

[mighty inlet]

youre basically untouchable in melee if you heavy spam with shield

[vocal nacelle]

its not vermintide where block is good*** cough 90% block cost reduction elf***

or iron wall dwarf

[pearl valley]

Does anyone else find that when you ping an enemy it gets in the way of seeing where there head is? Especially when they are off in the distance?

[storm laurel]

yeah

if you have numeric UI there's an option to disable the skull when you tag things

[blissful creek]

[cold furnace]

what does the yellow skull mean on the cosmetic shop tab?

[fervent ridge]

Premium Premium Special Extra Expensive MTX

[stoic iron]

even premiumer premium cosmetics

[fervent ridge]

The premiumest, one might venture

[cold furnace]

are they exclusive/will return in the future?

[fervent ridge]

Of course they will return

It's just a visual thing to drive the sense of urgency and make you buy it now

Before it rotates out

[shell nest]

question, what do you get for finishing hard mode on the twins?

[wary horizon]

What the fak is this sudden fps drop that always get me killed?

ryzen 5600x
6700XT

[warm nebula]

I believe your packets are being devoured by Nidhoggr, the Net Serpent https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/07/10/los-problemas

[wary horizon]

?

I even updated it to latest drivers.

Currently using medium settings. Still will get that sudden fps drop

[random shore]

Anyone here for bell mode ?

[torn peak]

if you've beaten the twins on dam hard because someone else had the skip do you still need to do the puzzle for yourself?

[glad trout]

What does it mean when you've got multiple build tabs and it says something like "There's problems with the equipment"?

[torn peak]

Most likely you've upgraded one of the build tabs but not the others, this usually has to do with the curios

[jovial gyro]

anything i can do when game is lagging, eventually disconnect me? when i lag nothing is responding, i shoot things there is no bullet, i hit things they have no effect, everything with legs slide across the floor without walking. this server problem or my problem? i emailed customer service but their response is so slow , 3 days just for one attempt at fixing

[blissful creek]

atleast ur not getting random audio delay and invisible torso's.

[orchid quail]

is there any visual indicator for when you crit with a ranged weapon?

i know there is one with melee

[rigid wasp]

Different muzzle flash and, I think, sometimes different sounds

[orchid quail]

what's the revolver's one?

[rigid wasp]

Can't say I know it

I just go by "did it die?"

[round plover]

What is the best way to farm plasteel ?

[craggy minnow]

Damnation quickplay

Or the hardest quickplay you can keep up with

[glad trout]

Gotcha thanks

[lavish hazel]

From best to worst what are the best classes for boss killing?

[fast urchin]

Is this any good

[rigid wasp]

Could be better, but it's already pretty decent

[void forge]

imo, ogryn=zealot>vet>psyker

[sage crane]

Anyone knows how long will the Special Assignment (Twin Bosses + hard mode) will be up? like couple weeks?

[void forge]

It's permanent

[hard goblet]

We don't know. Fatshark has not confirmed or outright denied whether it's permanent.

[sage crane]

oh ok, thx u

[void forge]

I'm pretty sure a CM said it was permanent

[hard goblet]

The most we have to go on is a CM telling us that so far Fatshark hasn't stated it wouldn't be permanent.

Which is leaving the possibility open in the future that it can be removed.

Given that FS will be taking their mandatory Winter vacation soon though, you can safely assume it'll be around for at least another month.

[void forge]

#general-chat message

It's permanent

Or at least no plans to remove it

[hard goblet]

The qualifier "(for the foreseeable future)" is a conditional statement. Not really a strong statement of permanence. If FS had made it clear it was a permanent event, there would be absolutely no doubt about it and conditionals wouldn't need to be added.

[void forge]

Whatever you say bro, but imo if there was never any plans to remove it, that makes it pretty clear about it being here to stay

[hard goblet]

The fact you have to add "if there was never any plans to remove it" means you also can't be certain if it's permanent or not because you don't know what Fatshark's plans are. No one knows because Fatshark hasn't made it clear with a definitive statement one way or the other. That's why even CMs and mods have to leave open the possibility it could be removed at any time.

If it was permanent, Fatshark could easily dispell any confusion about it by just making an announcement adding that it's permanent.

[still helm]

Schrodinger's FOMO

[hard goblet]

From a business perspective it's an effective strategy.

[gray crag]

wouldnt be surprised if they do like the Vermintide's drinking map where it leaves and comes back once in a while

[hard goblet]

I wouldn't be surprised either since that's what FS implemented with VT and VT2.

But assumptions and FS have a tricky history so it's best to play it safe.

[vernal tiger]

I've seen people "disable" the mines the Karnark twins drop. How exactly do you do this?

[gray crag]

i dont think you can disable them, just proc them so they dont pose issues later

[hard goblet]

What do you mean by disable?

[plush lake]

does anyone else crash when opening melk sometimes?

[warm nebula]

I’ve heard it happen. Try coming to a complete stop in front of his shop, or at least not being in the sprint animation when hitting the interact button?

[rigid wasp]

real and true

[plush lake]

lmfao

[cinder root]

Hm, I admit I'm new to modding Darktide. I did the .bat and toggled the patch on, have the mod folder and put the names in the .txt file. But the mod options aren't showing up on the ESC menu, as far as I can see.

Can I holler for help?

[gray crag]

you dont put base or dmf in the txt file of mods

first time i tried mod, i did and had the same issue as you, removed them and it got fixed

[cinder root]

huh, I actually didn't include them

[gray crag]

then make sure you put the mods files at the right spot, check if you toggled the mods on again

you mean, included them in the list or in your mods

you need them in your mods for other mods to work, just not in the list

[cinder root]

Each mod folder is in the same 'mods' folder as dmf and base, and is in the .txt

[gray crag]

make sure once again mods are toggled

[hard goblet]

Inb4 the sacred .bat ritual was not applied.

[cinder root]

i promise it was, thricefold for good measure lol

[gray crag]

maybe close steam and retry

[cinder root]

well, it's registering them now, at the start menu

getting nil-value errors but it knows the files are present

[gray crag]

steam sometimes does that, needs to restart to work

[cinder root]

once more for the omnissiah

[cinder root]

Kindred, you have helped me beyond measure

three restarts and it has functioned at last

[wary summit]

No twins fuck off https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042864204052443206

[bronze axle]

anyone having issues with the sound? for some reason whenver i shoot all sound cuts out and I only hear bullets dropping

[hoary vessel]

Vaguely remember having that issue when the part 1 dropped but recently my sound becomes as if my character has headphones on

[vernal tiger]

Any tips for hardmode Karnak twins?

[frozen tendon]

Hi fellas!

Anyone for Karnak Twins on hard mode?

[gray crag]

use ogryn and veterans, zealot if good, psyker is meh, if using oggryn, go ripper

[vocal nacelle]

my sucessful attempt (2 times already) 2 ogryn(dps/tank) to hold each aggro, 1 VoC vet ads clear/elite clear/support , 1 zealot ads clear/elite clear/sub dps (as a sacrifice)

premades is better. more communication

[gray crag]

3 ogryns and a vet is probably the easiest comp for it

3 gunluggers with rippers and vet with voc

And the tag ability

The brother gets melted, the ogryns get access to 6 nades that wipe the screen

[vocal nacelle]

yes

[mystic hull]

Why cant I seem to finish "Make every shot count" for Vet? I've played countless missions where I know for a fact I haven't missed more than 2 shots with a shotgun and it still wont complete.... frustrating....

[gray crag]

Try the revolver

[mystic hull]

Any revolver?

[dusk barn]

are you exiting the mission with 0 ammo remaining?

[mystic hull]

correct... i even removed scav perk to help

[dusk barn]

hrmm

[vocal nacelle]

zarona

[dusk barn]

I managed to do it with shotgun, but that was a while ago, before the class updates. Still had to fight against ammo regen, and at the end of the match there were no more enemies but I had rounds left. So I just shot them into the air and prayed.
Thankfully I still got it

[mystic hull]

I remember it used to be 100% accuracy... but the description says 90% now

[dusk barn]

Yeah, thank god they changed it

[mystic hull]

The revolver choice did it. thanks @gray crag & @vocal nacelle

[kindred storm]

Can you unlock hardmode in a private match?

[tough bridge]

Yeah with another person u can do the bells in private to unlock it

[molten minnow]

https://youtu.be/9p70tP1k4WA?si=WUwUBbb8Z-uOfn0y

[jovial gyro]

does redacted penance mean we cant unlock them?

[quick remnant]

No they are still possible

But they aren't "normal" penances

[craggy minnow]

They're the og batch of penances that often encouraged bad gameplay or were just really hard
Some of them can only be unlocked in private games

[ashen owl]

How have so many people done the secret hard mode? Im trying so much and every group i match with they have all done it but im just dying in the first 2 minutes and even with 3 others who have done it making virtually no progress

[still helm]

It helps a lot to use certain team comps with certain talents and gear

[potent hull]

It took me 15 pug runs to do it.

Everyone seems to not do it the first or second time, but once you get a team that has all tried it before it works

[jovial gyro]

does brittleness stack? if all 4 team members use things that cause brittleness

[long stone]

I need help figuring out how best to beat the twins hard mode. I play ogryn and created a build focusing on toughness and taunting but also tried a gunlugger with fire bullets. The closest all of my teams have gotten is typically getting Rodin to about half health before something goes wrong

I can kite the maulers good, I can keep rinda occupied good, I feel that 3 zealots with chorus of spiritual fortitude or vets with war shout would be best but I just can’t seem to seal the deal. Any build ideas and team comp suggestions are welcome

[slender echo]

3 ogryns and a zealot are solid options. Honestly anything other than psyker is good. Having at least one ogryn is ideal. Personally on my zealot I go two health curios and a toughness curio (with max corruption resist on all 3).

Vets are good if they can deal with elites/specials, zealots are fairly solid but struggle with taking out those elites (but can absolutely shred bosses) and ogryns do a bit of both.

Also, rippers on the ogryn with good blessings are an absolute godsend in the twins fight. However if you do go gunlugger go for rending over fire, not only did fire get nerfed, but rending is wayyyy more important in the twins fight. Other than that it simply comes down to skill, coordination, and a good amount of luck

[lunar reef]

Is there an added reward to rerunning the special assignment missions or is it the same as normal missions of the same threat level?

[long stone]

Thank you, I’ll try to use your advice for later today

[minor marsh]

Gosh darn can anyone give me some tips on the secret hard mode

I am running it on every available class but it just seems pubs are so incredibly hard to pull together a good win

been trying for 2 days now 😦

Anyone know what class might be best to just help with everything?

I am seriously thinking psyker smite build might be best just to keep everything CC'd as much as possible but then again pubs lack damage for the shields to down them at the same time

[craggy minnow]

Play ogryn go left tree mostly

Use a 3b club probably

Smash to control horde smash to kill boss

Rippergun to hose down sword lady shield

[hard goblet]

In my experience, at least one Ogryn is mandatory either for taunt aggro control or for damage against bosses with stubbers/ripper guns. VoC Veterans are very helpful as the boss knockdown buys you additional seconds to keep attacking bosses without them reacting with knockbacks. In general the fight demands specific types of builds where everyone on the team is capable of both contributing to boss dps and is able to kill elites quickly on their own without relying on someone else. Your loadout will want one ranged weapon capable of high fire rate burst damage to bring down Rinda's shield and a strong melee weapon for her brother's that can also kill elites quickly.

You can tell if a particular group has a chance at the fight or not by looking at if they can get to the tox gas phase within one window of the twins' shield being disabled. If they can't deal enough damage for the phase transition, it's unlikely they have the dps to not die by attrition against the spawn waves of elites etc.

[azure zenith]

Is there a difference between auric maelstrom and non auric maelstrom, if both are on damnation?

[hard goblet]

Auric simply guarantees high difficulty modifiers such as High Intensity.

[hot tulip]

I decided to make a taunt ogryn to tank one of the twins, thereby allowing for the rest of the team to deal with the 1 remaining twin.
However the rest of the team of randoms keep dying and can't even bring one boss below half health.
Is my approach wrong?
Is taunt build a trap?
Should i just go for full dmg?

[hard goblet]

Taunt builds are viable. The fight will demand that everyone be capable of standing on their own against a variety of enemies and have good target prioritization/game sense.

It may be a loadout, build, or skill issue for your teammates in that case you're describing.

[hot tulip]

So, i should just keep trying untill i get a random team that can handle damnation twins?

Hm, ok

[hard goblet]

Unless you can find a premade in game or here in this Discord, yes that is the way.

[hot tulip]

I wonder if the fact that there is an extra "reward" for this causes players who aren't evenplaying normal damnation yet to play the twin mission

[hard goblet]

#gameplay-help message mentions other pointers for the fight.

[hard goblet]

It's possible that is the case for some players. The FOMO may be somewhat of a motivating factor along with the general collection of achievements/insignias.

[hot tulip]

What would be the best ways to look for discord groups for the twin on damnation here? Ask in General Chat? The Vox-lfg channels?

[hard goblet]

The #vox-lfg-lexicanum lfg channel that matches your region would be the sensible option.

[hot tulip]

Which one is EU?

Found it

Thx for your time, and your help!

[burnt rain]

anyone up to hel-p me with just a flesh wound penance?

[minor marsh]

holy crap

3 days of pubbing for SHM

on twins

and 45 minutes lfg

-_-

[molten tendon]

y'all i need help with twins

[cold moon]

You receive more ordo dockets currency for auric malestroms.

[lofty pilot]

anyone want to help me with the "gone bowling" penance? its driving me nuts

[burnt rain]

you still need a hand?

[molten tendon]

no longer

couldnt take it no longer

tried for like 5 hours with no luck

[burnt rain]

1 more round with me and my mate?

we doing it on heresy

[molten tendon]

thanks but no thanks

gotta do it on damnation

[burnt rain]

aight emperor be with you

[molten tendon]

likewise friend

[median panther]

When is a good point to start trying to push into auric? Just once youre comfortable with damnation?

[slender echo]

Honestly auric is purely for extra challenge. Some of the missions and modifiers can be fun and challenging, especially maelstrom, but there isn't necessarily a reason to push them outside of that extra challenge. There's no increase to materials, and only a slight increase to credits, which usually isn't worth it due to the extra time the missions take (since you can't just steam roll stuff).

So, to really answer your question, push for auric if you've gotten decent stated gear, you're comfortable with and enjoying damnation, and you want to challenge yourself, either to try and improve your skill or you simply enjoy difficulty.

[median panther]

Okay thanks, I might try some auric but mainly Im still enjoying damnation and just want mats/ordo dockets

Just wanted to start pushing for next jump but not sure if its worth if its not much more reward

[woeful root]

if you have a build that can DPS check special waves without significant risk, then auric hishock will be smooth sailing

something like an IAG vet or something

the only difference between an equivalent mission on the normal board and on the auric board is that auric missions have a smaller interval between spawn waves

though if the reward is your main incentive, be warned that the mats are still the same, and the docket reward is also the same if it's an equivalent mission (same difficulty, same modifiers)

[rigid wasp]

How do you unlock the shortcut for hard mode?

[cold moon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995700310

Anyone in your squad does the bell puzzle and the hard mode shortcut will be activated for the whole team after you beat the bosses. You can also do this on Uprising

[hot geyser]

Does anyone know which infantry autogun has the least recoil? I like them conceptually but I'm a total scrub with recoil management

[woeful root]

prob just the not-columnus ones

and making sure to stand still and/or crouch when shooting

[hot geyser]

[woeful root]

if you've used IAGs before patch 13 (or 14), you'll know that crouching used to bump their recoil all to heaven for some ungodly reason, but that was changed

i also forget if they've fixed this yet, but iirc IAGs are one of the guns where the iron sights don't line up with where the shots go once the recoil gets going, and you'll have to fix that with the weapon FOV mod by changing the FOV so that it matches up while ADSing

and/or getting the crosshair remap mod to add a crosshair while ADSed

[cold moon]

or use weapon customization mod and get a scope attached. not on nexus mods yet cause mod author wants feedback

https://discord.com/channels/1048312349867646996/1168063453416669284

[lunar nexus]

Any other zealot here that could quickly do the penance Just a flesh wound with me ? EU region on PC.

[hasty reef]

have you tried just being good at the game?

[stone plaza]

Does everybody in a party need the shortcut or just one person

[hard goblet]

The host needs it, then it will appear for everyone else regardless of whether they individually did the bells or not.

[stone plaza]

cheers

[eternal wing]

Graia infantry autogun while ADS has very manageable recoil

[loud spire]

Any confirmation on beating hardmode with every classes gives you a hidden penance completed?

Or even the regular mode, just with every classes

[hard goblet]

I've never heard of anything like that.

[loud spire]

Me neither, but someone brought it up. Now it's worth a try

[hard goblet]

Considering there aren't any other insignias or portrait frames that match the Orthus themeing we already have in the game's files, I don't find it likely that there's further rewards for doing it on every class.

[loud spire]

Yeah... could just be a title

[still helm]

What exactly qualifies as corruption damage, for the sake of the corruption resistance curio?

[woeful root]

things that make your health bar purple

affects grims, pox-walker/burster/hound attacks, etc.

[vocal nacelle]

there's grim corruption and corruption from dmg

[still helm]

I wasn't sure if it counted hounds and pox flamers since they have their own resistance, but good to know

[vital moss]

Anyone got a decent guide for hardmode twins

[hard goblet]

I don't have a guide, but I can chip in what I learned running with randoms and eventually clearing it.

In my experience, at least one Ogryn is mandatory either for taunt aggro control or for damage against bosses with stubbers/ripper guns. VoC Veterans are very helpful as the boss knockdown buys you additional seconds to keep attacking bosses without them reacting with knockbacks. In general the fight demands specific types of builds where everyone on the team is capable of both contributing to boss dps and is able to kill elites quickly on their own without relying on someone else. Your loadout will want one ranged weapon capable of high fire rate burst damage to bring down Rinda's shield and a strong melee weapon for her brother's that can also kill elites quickly.

You can tell if a particular group has a chance at the fight or not by looking at if they can get to the tox gas phase within one window of the twins' shield being disabled. If they can't deal enough damage for the phase transition, it's unlikely they have the dps to not die by attrition against the spawn waves of elites etc.

Rinda will aggro to whomever deals enough damage to her shield, the same as Rodin. Rinda will charge across the arena to close distance, so you can use that behavior to pull her off of someone that may need breathing room. Ideally the two people handling Rinda should have ranged weapons capable of bursting her shield down in a reliable manner since melee against her will be inconsistent due to her moveset and knockbacks.

[vocal nacelle]

what character and build?

i'd say psyker is kinda hard to deal with twins unless you are running melee psyker

[hard goblet]

Both of them take x2 melee damage against their health. Have carapace heads, one carapace shoulder pauldron, flak chestplates, and unarmored lower torso.

Rodin's shield takes x3 melee damage.

So in general, your melee weapon will be more effective at dealing damage to their health than your ranged weapon. Exceptions for gun lugger Ogryns.

[mighty inlet]

just bring 4 gunlugger ogryns easy win

[vital moss]

crit zealot.....

I'm not gonna make it

[hard goblet]

Zealots can work so long as you bring an eviscerator and use it well.

I personally think the charge works better than a relic zealot, but if you really think you can time your relics perfectly then you can try that too.

[vocal nacelle]

bring chain weapon and columnus

[hard goblet]

The columnus IAG mk5 is what I opt for on twins. Would recommend.

[vernal plaza]

TIL
Makes sense why both of them keep wailing at me while the corner hugger rando does nothing

[hard goblet]

Yeah if that happens, it's likely your squad lacks sufficient DPS and can't prioritize targets effectively.

[vocal nacelle]

Ogryn is still a good choice, there's a time where i aggro rinda and rodin while my teammate cleaning the ads

[dire plank]

So i need help getting Shocking Stuff achievement. Can i put that in LFG?

[vernal plaza]

Well its randoms so i dont expect much
Theres also a few runs where ppl hold medkits for their future marriage

[atomic brook]

the warp battery achivment makes me wanna die.

god i wish they would hurry up and implement solo play

[vocal nacelle]

Which one is that again?

[atomic brook]

300 seconds hold max warp charges

dunno if its consecutive or not

[vocal nacelle]

You aren't taking venting shriek right?

[atomic brook]

i am but i aint using it

i aint using any abilities

[vocal nacelle]

Your warp charge must stay at 6 for 300s

[atomic brook]

i have it at 4. didnt unlock six cause thats a bigger pain in the ass to manage

4 max warp charges for 300s as in no breaks in it at all?

[vocal nacelle]

Are you using warp kill or normal kill to generate

[atomic brook]

both

[vocal nacelle]

What, you can only pick one

[atomic brook]

wym? both normal kills and elite ones get warp charges

[vocal nacelle]

i meant soulblaze

[atomic brook]

no im not using that.

[vocal nacelle]

well good luck

[atomic brook]

actually now that i think of it, its not that descriptive.

does it mean killing an enemy WITH soulblaze as in soulblaze has to kill them?

or is it killing them while they have soulblaze on them

[vocal nacelle]

if you are using purgatus/voidstrike adding this and this

you can stack up warp battery pretty quick

[atomic brook]

i am using that but it didnt answer my question-

[vocal nacelle]

dunno ¯_(ツ)_/¯

warp siphon kinda hard to use currently

before class rework you get warp stack on any brainburst kill, even on normal horde so that penance is easy

[stoic iron]

it needs to be 6

[sour iron]

No, I got it a few days ago with 4, not taking the talent

[stoic iron]

never worked for me until I got 6

they must have changed it in a recent patch

[void forge]

Nope it's always worked with 4

[stoic iron]

mutliple times I tried with 4 and never got it but the first time I used 6 it worked so idk what to say

this was in patch 14

[void forge]

Well I've played since beta and this was never an issue

Maybe there was a bug when patch 13 came out that broke the penance though

[plush lake]

This isn't the first time it's happened, but I was in a strike team with 3 friends, almost done the finale and we all simultaneously freeze and the game disconnects all of us (error 2014) and my contract progress is reduced back to 0

Anyone have an explanation?

This shit keeps happening and occasionally only one of us gets disconnected (error 2001) for no reason despite being near the queued server (us east) and our discord call staying connected

[hard goblet]

It is one of the many moods of the machine spirit residing within Fatshark's cogitator banks.

Only the Omnissiah knows the sacred logic that drives them.

[sour iron]

No it works fine, got mine just last week
#psyker-class message

[craggy minnow]

Would not be surprised if it broke in 13 and got fixed, basically half the penances did

[polar thorn]

hi which quests are usually rerolled?

contracts that have a low probability or take too long to finish

[fervent ridge]

The 16 books one for sure lol

[vernal plaza]

Skip no death and books

[fervent ridge]

And the no player death contracts too since people are terrible

[vernal plaza]

The rest are pretty ok, mission finished (8) would be my pick unless you have small chars

[polar thorn]

i have 16 books and 6 no player deaths and i was thinkging those seemed like it would be hard

[vernal plaza]

Throw that away

[polar thorn]

thanks!

[vocal nacelle]

1 no player death is kinda good maybe 2-3 mission can finish it

[craggy minnow]

16 books is awful, no player deaths really depends on your teammates / how good you are at refusing to let them die

If im playing ogryn i'll basically always get all 6 within the 8 games

[vocal nacelle]

I don't trust pub , magical barrel always makes my pocket vet fly away from the cliff

[craggy minnow]

Books is the worsr by far though

It will take at least 8 missions if you only queue scrips and have people looking with you

[fervent ridge]

just a stupid big timesink

[wicked spoke]

I generally reroll to always have Plasteel, Diamantine, Monstrosities, as those are the quickest. I usually prefer Scabs and Dregs with Ranged (melee kills of these take twice as long it seems as most scabs/dregs are mobs a team will tend to mow down at range). 8 missions complete and 1 mission with no deaths I'll usually keep if I get it when rerolling to the above five. Grims/Scrips and 3-6 missions no deaths are always rerolled and sometimes 1000 dregs/scabs with melee depending on class.

[ashen owl]

Can anyone help me with Orthus Offensive Hard Mode?

[unkempt vigil]

You still need help?

We are trying it now, getting out ass wooped. Need some more vet players Instead of randoms.

[smoky swallow]

I did it regular damn (not trying hard mode lol) by having 3 ogryns and a vet lol

[unkempt vigil]

You beat hard yet?

[smoky swallow]

not even

[unkempt vigil]

Oh, nvm. Your not trying it.

😦

[smoky swallow]

got washed every single time. not trying it yet, I mean. I'm just humbled atm (tried it so many times)

[unkempt vigil]

Really need some help with it.

My fri ND and I can cat to about half with randoms, but then we get wacked as soon as the randoms go down.

[smoky swallow]

post in the "vox chanels LFG". some good people will join

[tough musk]

Can anyone recommend some YouTube channels for builds?

[craggy minnow]

I would honestly say not to bother with orthus hard mode unless you can clear auric damnation missions

Its spicy

[smoky swallow]

I can reliably clear auric missions but I still get (and got) filtered

[ashen owl]

Yeah can get back on if you’re still going

[smoky swallow]

I guess my issue is I tunnel vision on the bosses

[craggy minnow]

Yeah that's not good

There's strategic levels to it for comp and builds that matter too

But you also just need to have a base level of technical skill a lot of people just... don't i've found

[smoky swallow]

I get that

[craggy minnow]

Playing with scoreboard one thing i notice is that people, through tunnel vision and build problems, don't put out enough pure damage into the adds to keep them under control

I really like playing ogryn with a 3b club to cover that as much as possible

[noble tundra]

Hey guys

I notice my team usually falls apart when there are multiple armored enemies on screen like maulers and crushers

Whats a good tactic for helping the team out with those hordes

I have shit weapons for dealing with large groups of crushers

[quick remnant]

What class are you playing as ?

[noble tundra]

I usually go Zealot still working on Ogryn

I can sometimes get a few crushers with my evis

My flamer does Jack for those hordes

[plush lake]

Honestly I balance myself for whatever niche the team needs

If we have a shit ton of hordeclear I bring stuff to snipe and deal with elites/specials

[noble tundra]

Revolver I’m assuming

[plush lake]

Same with armor, if everyone if bringing horde/gunner stuff I'll bring a revolver, or a can opener ripper, or plasma gun

[plush lake]

I suppose

[noble tundra]

Mm

How good is the revolver against crushers

[plush lake]

Revolver works for anti special and anti armor but is worse for anti shooter

I like the infantry lasgun for anti shooter

[plush lake]

In my experience incredible with handcannon and surgical

Especially on vet

You can 2 tap crushers and vet can reach a 1 tap breakpoint

[noble tundra]

I don’t mind the rest of the hordes, even gunners, I just can’t deal with the crusher hordes in like tight spaces you know

Very cool

[plush lake]

On zealot if you want to run a flamer or shotgun for hordes I've found myself running chainaxe a bit more too

With fury the chainaxe can 1 tap crushers and without I think you can hit a breakpoint with thrust

Thunderhammer is great too for anti armor

So yeah

Lots of options

[noble tundra]

Im using that new evis and it melts but it takes a bit to work the full rev

[plush lake]

As for ogryn I run bullgryn shield tons cause the stagger is so helpful

As well as rumbler with adhesive

Puts crushers on their ass

[plush lake]

Ye I haven't gotten around to using it all too much

But it works

[plush lake]

Krourk cleaver is also incredible

Good armor dmg with the stab stab heavy slash

So heavy 1 light light

And hordes is push attack light loop

(You probably already knew I just felt like saying lol)

[noble tundra]

I’ll have to try the cleaver

And no i DONT know anything

[plush lake]

It's awesome

[noble tundra]

I got vet to 30 and never once used hadron

[plush lake]

If you need help with ogryn look at the ogrynomicon in the pins of the channel

Unfortunately none of the other classes have one but it's great

[noble tundra]

Or a weapon better than purple

[plush lake]

Kek

Vet is fun too

[noble tundra]

I like vet with the bolter

That was fun

And the krak grenades or whatever they’re called lol

Zealot is my first true class I guess

[plush lake]

To be honest

I'm not the biggest fan of the bolter

Krak grenades can be useful

But that's with 5 heavy asterisks

More often than not they just

...aren't

[noble tundra]

I’ll see if I can run the revolver with those blessings

[plush lake]

I run the Rashad axe and it deals with armor relatively well

[noble tundra]

I just want to be a better zealot

[plush lake]

If you can't get a plasma gjn with blaze away and gets hot

At least when it comes to armor

[noble tundra]

I have a hard time with rashad I don’t know what I’m doing wrong

It takes me like 7 strikes to kill

[plush lake]

If you know your team can deal with armor, I reccomend the infantry lasgun 1a or 12 (you are more vulnerable to getting hit in the back) or something more versatile like the columnus 5 (run the onslaught talent) or the mk3 or mk7 headhunters

They are all very fun guns and can deal with armor with the right build and critd

Crits

Except the lasgun

Lasgun cant

[plush lake]

Crushers?

[noble tundra]

Yeah

[plush lake]

Also vet and zealot fill different roles

On zealot I use revolver only as a Quickdraw to deal with gunners, crushers, what have you

On vet, I use it almost consistently the entire missiob

Mission<

**

[noble tundra]

Letting you know I’m screenshotting this

[plush lake]

There is a way if I recall to hit a 4 hit breakpoint for crushers

I don't know what you need for jt

All I know is the Rashad is good

Lol

@lime idol is a great guy and can show you towards that breakpoint among others

He also likes the helbore lasgun a lot btw

[noble tundra]

Lmao okay so I’m not exactly doing anything wrong it just takes longer than the evis haha

[plush lake]

(I pinged him so it might summon him at some point ) so yeah don't be afraid to give him a shout, he's axtive in vet a lot

[noble tundra]

Im used to deleting things with activating the chain and heavy hit

[noble tundra]

Sweet ty for the info

Ah the helbore

I tried it once and never again after that

[plush lake]

All good those are just my personal favorites: I have been running the latter three (autoguns) mainly along with plasma as a close 4th place, I also run the accatran laspistol consistently a lot too, with crits it can do decent armor damage but it's no bolter

But yeah those suggestions are mainly for like 1 crusher or so, you can help the team pitch in vs a mixed horde but you won't be killing all of them if you run the revolver or bolter for instance

Plasma is probably the best in stock for vet

[plush lake]

Me too lmao

But it's better than I thought

I need to try it again

[plush lake]

Np np

Last thing I'll say

My word is NOT gospel

Even though I have a shit ton of hours in vt2 and think I know darktide well, I still come and ask lots of questions

It's good to ask questions and find out what's good in recent patches and what not

So ye i could be totally wrong in some things

[plush lake]

On vet melee the new shovels do great against armor too

As well as the power sword 6

But the power sword has awful dodge range

[noble tundra]

Yeah I’m shit at picking out melee options for vet. Idk what to do with that class lol

It’s a mess

Just staying away from it for now

[noble tundra]

Damn why are the shovels so good lol

They seem boring to me design wise

[plush lake]

Yeah they are just shovels

Honestly the folding attack is why I use the mk3/7

I don't have a good mk7 yet

[noble tundra]

But they’re so good

[plush lake]

I only have a semi usable standard issue and mk3

[plush lake]

Indeed

Standard issue is good too

Brb

[noble tundra]

The folding attack with Ogryn is actually bonkers on gray lol

[plush lake]

Back

How could I forget

Ogryn shovels too

Absolutely incredible

I personally use the mk19 but I haven't been able to get a mk5

You can easily hit crusher 1 taps with crunch/thrust/carapace perk etc

[plush lake]

Vet?

I suppose

I main vet so it wasn't too hard for me, but I can see it

I might switch to maining ogryn tho lol

[noble tundra]

Shit this could be the one tap machine I want

[plush lake]

Easily

[noble tundra]

Still at 22 for ogy tho

[plush lake]

Only issue is holding heavy attack for a long time but

It does the trick

[noble tundra]

Gonna wait a bit before the hadron casino

[plush lake]

Crusher 1 taps aren't all too easy to get but when you get them they're good

[noble tundra]

I started an Ogryn because of the rock I didn’t know existed

[plush lake]

Don't expect to 1 tap on all weapons either right, similar to vermintide chaos warriors they are meant to be spongy

[plush lake]

Lmfao

Dawg I gotta run rock more it's so fun

[noble tundra]

One day I saw one pelting mutants with it

[plush lake]

I only use frag/box

[noble tundra]

It’s the best actually lmfao

[plush lake]

I need to use rock

Anyways yeah

In general like

Lots of weapons are viable for armor

[noble tundra]

Right right

[plush lake]

The Rashad can 4 tap but it's fast right

So dps is very high

For example

But yeah lots of viability all over the place

Just ask in the respective channels on specifics

People here are geniuses (unlike me)

I always come back and say "what's the best blessing and perks on ----?"

[noble tundra]

Lmfao yeah that’s me as well

[plush lake]

Ye

[noble tundra]

To be fair nothing is really explained like at all

Hence why I had like 10k+plasteel and never used it

Also I just found out last week that there are levels to each blessing lmfao.

[plush lake]

That's a good thing

I wish I kept my 24k plasteel

I busted it the immediate second I came back for patch 13

[noble tundra]

Ah i know now Im at like 4K plasteel and i DONT know how

[plush lake]

But I have been grinding lately so yeah

[plush lake]

Me too I'm at 8k

Just consistent damnation/heresy ig

[noble tundra]

[plush lake]

Ye btw if you play damnation

Not even auricw

Aurics*

You get like

Triple the plastee

L

Max you can get sometimes is like 700/800

[noble tundra]

Im playing more damnation after being hard stuck on malice with vet

[plush lake]

Yeah

[noble tundra]

My zealot can actually schmoove in damnation

[plush lake]

Trick is to just consciously search for it

Oftentimes I'll just run around like a madman and be like

"Shit I was meant to be looking for mats"

[noble tundra]

I appreciate all the plasteel at the end of the twins being in one room lol

[plush lake]

I love knife zealot so much

He's either really good or really bad if you play him improperly

I have found there's 2 main ways

[noble tundra]

Got any good links on a knife zelly?

[plush lake]

1. Crit (mercy killer, bleed, scourge, what not)
2. Backstabbing (shroud, ruthless backstab, etc)

I play the latter

And oh my god

It's good for armor too

Crushers can be 1 tapped backstab with a shroud crit

And all other enemies 1 tapped

[plush lake]

Wdym

Like a build?

[noble tundra]

Yeah

[noble tundra]

Ooo

[plush lake]

I mean I suppose I could show you my build later today

My build is NOT perfect but it does the tricm

Trick*

[noble tundra]

Oh yeah whenever No rush lol

[plush lake]

I say later cause rn I'm not home, I'm on my phone lol hence the dogshit spelling errors

[noble tundra]

Same

[plush lake]

[noble tundra]

Im about to knock out hehe

[plush lake]

Yeah like

For me personally

I prefer knife to thammer

Thammer is more consistent for armor dmg but holy shit is the knife mobile and good for gunners/shotgunners, or anything else mixed within a horde

[noble tundra]

Was never good with the invisible sneaky stuff but I should try this

[plush lake]

Shroud is also helpful for free objectives and revives

I was never good at it either I mainly run fury but God is it fun

[noble tundra]

I hate those maps where there is 1 gunner on each corner and they’re all shooting at the same time

[plush lake]

I talked on what I mainly run for vet, as for zealot I run one of the 3 builds nowadays: 1. Deathblow/headtaker heavy sword mk9 (mk6 works too) holy shit a fury crit build with cooldown reduction on crit is CRAZY for hordes, I'll show you when I'm home
2. Knife shroud, as said
3. Chainaxe as of late has been pretty fun too

I want to get better with thunder hammer, and I want to get a relic build at some point as well

[plush lake]

Lmao the fucking firing squads

Gunners absolutely wreck en masse

That's why shroud is so handy to just say "nah" and run up to them like that scene from monty python

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-run-running-gif-12275685

Just a crackhead with a knife

[noble tundra]

Lololol

Based

[noble tundra]

Oof that heavy sword

I just made a dc lol

Hell yeah tho saved

[plush lake]

DC?

[noble tundra]

Im knocking out now but ty for your help and my dm is open sah

[noble tundra]

Devils claw

??

Right

[plush lake]

Ah ok ye

[noble tundra]

Idk what the name is lol

[plush lake]

Forgive me I'm braindead

You're right

Devils claw

Ye they are great too

[plush lake]

Anyways yeah go do your thing, have a good one

Looking forward to showing you my shit later lol

[noble tundra]

Just swapped it today lol

Hell yeah bro

[plush lake]

Nice

[noble tundra]

[plush lake]

I gotta get a good one of those

[noble tundra]

I took off ds for shred

For now anyway lol

[plush lake]

Tried dming you and your dms are closed

Send me a friend request whenever you're good if you want

[plush lake]

Love me shred

[noble tundra]

Oops my b was getting a lot of crypto spammers 2 years ago lol

Sent

Gn dude ty for the help again 🙂

[plush lake]

Ye np mate looking forward to gaming

[signal apex]

Shroudfield or holy relic for hardmode

[plush lake]

To be honest depends on the team comp

But I'd go relic

It's so useful

[jolly lynx]

anyone to bells or Hard mode?

[near pawn]

Gonna be doing hard mode as Ogryn
What weapon should I use

I'm using a ripper gun btw

[graceful halo]

Hello, do you know where this badge comes from? I have it but I don't know how

[near pawn]

It was given automatically to pc players

There should be some other cosmetics along with that insignia

[graceful halo]

Thank you

[full fiber]

Hello, not sure if this one counts as a gameplay question, but maybe someone knows the answer here. What kind of performance in Darktide can I expect with CPU like 12700k/13600k? My current cpu starts struggling when I crank up settings like number of bodies etc

[vocal nacelle]

medium low

[wide panther]

anyone needs one more for orthus hm?

[candid sparrow]

Are servers having issues rn? Im getting disconnected while in mourningstar over and over...

[honest linden]

Is after mission dmg stats some mod?

[candid sparrow]

ye

scoreboard mod

[fast laurel]

Scoreboard mod and the scoreboard damage plugin mod

[honest linden]

Nexusmods for em?

[fast laurel]

Yes

[honest linden]

Any must have mods besides scoreboard? For beginner

[tribal drum]

A general thing. Where do I change the language in Darktide?

[runic loom]

For penances that mention something that has an upgrade (like brain burst or the box of hurt) do you have to use the unupgraded option

[wide panther]

anyone needs one more for orthus hm?

[wanton furnace]

Hi there.
Decently competent player LFG for twins hard mode.
Zealot/Ogryn player primarily.

[honest linden]

Any special reward from those Twins?

[wanton furnace]

Just some cosmetic stuff. Nothing special. Just really want the penance

[honest linden]

Another noob question, do the penances give you anything besides just shown youve done something?

[tall sigil]

What is the rewards for the hard mode twins except the balls?

[wanton furnace]

It's really just cosmetics/personal satisfaction

Kinda like achievements.

[honest linden]

Okay thanks for the info

Mostly after cosmetics since my beginner dude looks boring still

[tall sigil]

There is some that is very easy to complete and give cool skins. You can look at them an focus on certain penances.

[honest linden]

Ok will try to look through penances and find such

Gonna first see how these work

Yesterday my "Kill 750 dredgs with ranged" got bugged at 709/750

Now my similar melee one didnt even progress from 0

Missed out my first week weekly +1k reward because of it

[ember lodge]

If I get the mod that increases the character cap, will I still get weeklies for the new characters?

[eternal perch]

Looking as well, zealot/ ogryn

[wary osprey]

This game supports controllers on PC, right?

[hoary vessel]

Yes

[candid sparrow]

some of em give pretty sick drip

[cold moon]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-vanguard-pc-bundle/86360

[high cairn]

Thoughts? usable or do I just take it for Headtaker?

[hazy skiff]

i mean, you could make it work by switching melee damage perk out for flak or unyielding and rev it up for something like the thrust one or bleed stacks and focus on using the chainaxe for its special attack, yet the shredder value is 51% so it doesn't really synergise well for it.

so its really up to you, on how easily you're able to get plasteel/good weapons or not. Personally I'd scrap it just for the carapace perk and the 51% shredder but then i've a lot of good weapons already to choose from. I prefer to have a more flexible perks on my melee as well, usually flak+unarmoured/maniac.

[high cairn]

Yeah I was thinking of just tossing the Rev it Up and 8%

Either way, I need it for the Headtaker

[jolly lynx]

its impossible make a party to hard mode twins :_(

[misty quail]

can someone explain the strengths/weaknesses of veteran vs psyker? seems like their main job is to kill specials, right?

[hoary vessel]

Veteran is support/marksman that supplies buffs/ammo and targets enemies

psyker is a support/assassin that does shields and crowd control who can also drop dangerous specialists from a distance

Everyone’s main job is to kill specialists but specifically veterans do have the usual role of gunner and sniper duty

Psykers more or less just provide crowd support and shield if they have to be put into a hard role

[misty quail]

thank you! sounds like the veteran is for me. i appreciate it 🙂

[vocal nacelle]

one is killing heretic with a gun and the other killing heretic with magic gun

psyker is a vet with extra flavour technically

[rigid wasp]

Psyker doesn't get many direct buffs to guns, but have plenty of staves that do different things and can get funny toughness regen with warp weapons, as well as having their blitz be used with more frequency than veteran's

In contrast, veteran has funny shit like weakspot buffs, melee attacks speed, crit chance on dodge, stamina regen on dodge and other cool stuff

Their main job is what you make them do, which if you're playing with pubs is everything

You can make a psyker with dome, purgatus and smite and basically never lay a hand on a sniper

You can make a vet with a bunch of right tree stuff, toss in an autopistol and basically never lay a hand on a sniper

BUT

Psyker also has true aim and scrier's gaze to do some gun funnies

Warp siphon and disrupt destiny both buff gun damage if you so choose

The game's classes are mostly not funneled into hard roles like "vet does X and psyker does Y"

[young rampart]

I think Vet toughness is bugged again

Went down in 0.5 seconds

[hoary vessel]

I’m not sure if it’s bugged but there’s been a lot more sudden 100% toughness and hp damage specifically on my vet

Maybe we accidentally out of coherency or somethin

[hollow cradle]

how do critical hits(in guns) get calculated? i have a helbore mk 3 with a decent build and an lasgun kantrael mg xii with a good crit chanche and i cant just pick one to be a scaredy cat spaming crits on the backline of my team

sorry for my english, it aint my first language

[young rampart]

Glad to know im not the only one

[rigid wasp]

Critical hits get the critical damage bonus of the gun and apply it to the base damage, giving a separate damage that is added to the result, like a gun with 100 damage and 50% crit damage dealing 100 base + 50 crit

Crit damage perks and talents boost specifically that extra damage instead of the final one, which is why people hate the crit damage perk on weapons

[hallow bane]

How do you start a private game?

It says I have to be in a strike team, but that would defeat the point

[fast laurel]

You cant play a solo private game unfortunately

[hallow bane]

Then how am I supposed to get this armor?

[signal apex]

Get friends or help in this server to do a private game

They haven't bothered implementing a solo game like what they did in vt2

So yea

[vocal nacelle]

get a friend/squad

[sour iron]

You can start a private game with at least 1 other person in your squad, then toggle the setting in the mission terminal (press e to open the menu with the private game option)
You might want to get the bots killed

[hallow bane]

Awesome! Thanks for the help friends!

[haughty lance]

pondered this one too, it's basically a "kill a monstrosity on your own" kind of thing.
but yea, need a squad dealing with everything else while you solo it. Beast of Nurgle is probably the only one you can do this with without getting super sweaty 🤔

which is probably also why this is a private game penance. "solo" wouldn't work as the bots would just start blasting 😄

[sour iron]

Works on daemonhosts too, if you have a shield ogryn to take aggro that'll be easy

[storm pier]

Can I ask about any Darktide Mods here or what chat would be appropriate? I'm struggling getting the mod loader to work :/

[craggy minnow]

https://discord.gg/rKYWtaDx4D
Best results here

Also secret cool mods

[storm pier]

Yes, thank you. I found my way there already 🙂

[unkempt wraith]

Which blessing should I change to uncanny strike?

[glossy solstice]

limbsplitter for sure

[storm carbon]

There a reason to farm the Hard mode Twins? Like are they giving good ordo dockets or something

or just funsies

[vocal nacelle]

Golden skull insignia

[hard goblet]

For fun.

I already got my insignia, I'm just curious to help other groups/see what they're doing.

[storm carbon]

Farming, not killing once

[storm carbon]

Cool thanks~

[vocal nacelle]

Oh then just play normal one, can farm orange weapon in 7 minutes

Decent blessing rng farm

[storm carbon]

is that mission reward or emperors gifts

[hard goblet]

Same thing.

Completing a mission guarantees you an Emperor's Gift.

Damnation typically rewards you with orange weapons. Sometimes purple.

[storm carbon]

Still capped per week isnt it ?

[hard goblet]

No, it's not been capped for months.

They changed that many patches ago.

Unless I'm misremembering.

[storm carbon]

It might be bugged back to what it was

but its possible they hotfixed?

[vocal nacelle]

Dunno no one complaining about it

[hard goblet]

Can't say I've heard of this.

[storm carbon]

I've observerd it myself but I was not 100% sure

However a notable youtuber has also reported it, apparently even submitting a bug ticket to FatFish

||Claysthetics|| (if anyone cares)

[boreal spear]

Does unlocking HM for one character unlock it for the rest, or do i need to ring the bells for all 4 characters?

[vernal plaza]

Its been guaranteed drop for months ive always delete the gift instantly

[vernal plaza]

Cmiiw but isnt this one of the meh ytber

[vocal nacelle]

unlock all

[storm carbon]

no idea I just dug it up when looking to see about the Emperors Gifts weirdness

[unique veldt]

Any tips what to do with these regarding perks/blessings (for weapon specialist vet)?
Somewhat recently level 30.

My thoughts were
Autogun: Hit and Run -> Dumdum, Ranged Damage -> Flak
Plasmagun: keeping both blessings and getting 2 armour type perks but unsure which ones make the most sense?
Kinda lost on the sword, keep blessings as well? Maniac? Flak? Carapace?

[wary horizon]

Guys, The higher the difficulty, the bigger the exp?

[signal apex]

Ye

[vocal nacelle]

speedload to dumdum carapace to maniac/flak
volatile to blaze away crit to carapace/flak/maniac

you wont do much to carapace using autogun

[ornate basalt]

Anyone feeling like carrying a noob through Twin hard mode?

[idle kite]

does anyone have a link to a working shirtless mod?

[halcyon locust]

I would join with my Ogryn, but I can't carry

[near pawn]

There's a Mk X heavy laspistol (the new one) with all seventies but a 42% in ammo
Idk if I should get it

42% means 63/383 btw

[warm nebula]

That’s not the worst it could be. Brunt? Or Melk? If the latter, pass

[storm carbon]

just check out nexusmods

[plain obsidian]

Quick Question: Whats the better autoguns for veteran on Twins HM? I've been playing around with C.BR and its been working well for horde clearing, just not sure if there's better before i get too deep in resource grinding.

[hard goblet]

I prefer the CIAG myself.

But I only really used it for breaking Rinda's shield quickly.

[plain obsidian]

mmm- Right, Dumdum and uh-...

I know some people swear by raking fire

[hard goblet]

Honestly, the blessings don't matter terribly much but yeah you could run raking fire if you want.

I went with dumdum and fire frenzy.

But the CIAG doesn't really need blessings to do well.

[plain obsidian]

tbh i wish i.autoguns had run'n'gun 😔

But anyways, Thanks for the information. Cheers, soldier.

[kind maple]

got a question, a lot of blessings like Wrath or Savage Sweep or Devastating strike kind of have the same result(more cleave in this case)

how do you know which one tends to be better for a specific weapon?

[scenic ice]

Anyone willing to help me with the Twins Damnation Hard Mode Difficulty?

[stoic iron]

savage sweep is almost always the best option, devastating strike is terrible and wrath is for anything that doesn't already have enough cleave to hit 3 or more enemies in one swing (which is basically none)

[finite adder]

is there anyone willing to help me get the shocking stuff penance? no group in quickplay thusfar has been able/willing to help

[native sparrow]

Just start a strike team and post in the LFG chat saying which penance you want to complete

[nova fractal]

what does this symbol mean

[hard goblet]

I believe that's an indicator that they're in a strike team party.

[coral violet]

can multiple instances of shared blazing piety stack?

[jolly lynx]

Anyone willing to help me with the Twins Damnation Hard Mode Difficulty?

[final finch]

If you complete all the bells on uprising difficulty will that permanently unlock the hard mode shortcut on damnation?

[thin lava]

Is there like an excel sheet of the best blessings I should aim for each weapon?

[vocal nacelle]

Ask each class channel they have their own guide

[vocal nacelle]

Yes

[jolly lynx]

anyone to hardmode twins? I'm bored of looking for a good group :_)

[outer tartan]

can someone PLEASE get this message somewhere where it could be easily seen and found for future help-seekers? that one bug where your Darktide game files get Borked like it did for me all the way back then -- as long as it was External Drive connected via USB cable => you manually disconnect the HDD or SSD from rest of your Machine and could 0 issues reinstall Darktide, it was commented in OG Comment Thread on MC Forums

[prisma pilot]

does anyone know if running both ruthless backstab and uncanny strike works on the knife

[fast laurel]

Rending is capped at 100% and any extra rending you have are converted to 1% bonus damage for every 4% rending.

[wary osprey]

How does the parry work on the Catachan swords?

Just seems to block, I was under the impression if gave an auto attack on successful parry

[slender grail]

The parry is the special attack

[polar eagle]

has anyone else not been able to put the game into a lower resolution than 1400x900? id like to run the game at 720p for some additional FPS

I was prior to patch 13 or 14 and it just hasent been an option since

[strange fiber]

there's no great way to target specifi enemy types right? IE no obviously awesome mission for dregs when I have melee kill 1000 dregs

[slender grail]

There is a maelstrom modifier for only scabs, but not one for dregs.

[jolly lynx]

Finally I think I decided not to try it anymore, it is impossible to do the twins' hard mode with random people :_)

I don't understand why they haven't included a small search engine to do it in that way.

total frustration

[little flint]

can anyone help me with my game?

it keeps saying game is out of date and needs to be updated but when I go to steam to update theres nothing to update

idk what to do

[dense heron]

You may have already tried, but did you do the "verify game files" option?

[cloud island]

should I do carapce to flak or upgrade rampage?

[signal apex]

How to find a good hard mode team

[hard goblet]

Either luck through queueing in game or via #vox-lfg-lexicanum .

[rigid wasp]

CAN WE MAKE A CHANNEL MADE FOR THE TWINS EVENT ITS GETTING OLD

[fast laurel]

I don't see why it needs it's own channel. Considering this is the help channel

[mighty inlet]

just lfg

[carmine sedge]

what is the general difference between weapon MKs? I still have no idea to this day

[vocal nacelle]

dmg, moveset and anti elite or horde

[rigid wasp]

@fast laurel Yes its the help channel... I can read for your concidration..... its why I came here... there are no other spots for help in such matters. so if you are not going to be useful why are you talking

[honest linden]

If i have fully upgraded weapon, and i havent reblessed or refined, can i use those 2 slots to change both of its blessings if perks are fine?

[vocal nacelle]

yes

you can change 2 slot

[honest linden]

Ok, can then save my sword still as long as i just unlock the blessings for it then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022932651138625627/1187111192251084800/image.png?ex=6595b273&is=65833d73&hm=1942f80ce0365f492ae75eca9c7ea0da97bdee5a7c355512d34fe57c64a542bc&

Rampage and Headtaker for that like in the one above

Just havent gotten either yet as only hit lvl 30 lastnight

Best way to get those is just to hope they drop at Melk's or in shop? Or spend resources on other Swords consecrating em and hope to get that way?

[vocal nacelle]

better getting deathblow + rampage/headtaker

[vocal nacelle]

pray for luck

[honest linden]

Whats so good about Deathblow, what does the "ignore enemy mass" do in it`?

30ish more power from both blessings seems kinda strong for all situations

[woeful root]

the description for deathblow/brutal momentum is poopoo
if you kill an enemy with a weakspot, then you maintain first-target damage to subsequent targets hit (up to four targets)

so let's say your cleave distribution looks like 650 -> 300 -> 100 (650 damage to the first target, 300 to the second, 100 to the third and beeyond)
If you have enough damage to one-shot four enemies of a particular type, you will just deal 650 damage to all four

this means that you can kill four full-HP bruisers in a single attack

#veteran-class message

on the other hand, breakpoints really matter for it

[hard goblet]

Damage that would normally start decreasing after the Xth target hit will instead apply fully until the Yth target.

So Brutal Momentum for example gives you extra damage against weakpoints if you strike them while also preserving your overall damage application. This makes it supremely efficient for horde clearing and enables breakpoints.

[honest linden]

Okay thanks, no way to know these from reading just the descriptions of those

Especially as someone as fresh as less than week into the game

[hard goblet]

Yeah the game won't explain any of the terminology to you so if you don't have experience with other Tide games, it'll all be pretty incomprehensible unless you look for information outside.

The inspect feature will be very helpful for you starting out.

You can inspect weapons in your inventory and hover over the stat bars for more detailed information.

[honest linden]

My Vermintide 2 knowledge wont really help either if its hidden info like this

[rigid wasp]

Can someone explain the whole sacrifice weapon for blessing thing?
When you sacrifice a weapon, do you get blessings for that weapon and that rarity only or can you re-perk across weapons and rarities?

[vocal nacelle]

you scrap a weapon to extract the blessing you selected

[hard goblet]

When you earn a blessing, you add it to a stickerbook that allows you to reapply that specific blessing of that specific rank an infinite number of times to weapons within the same weapon family. i.e. Kantrael Infantry Lasguns etc.

[vocal nacelle]

and you can paste on the same weapon family

[rigid wasp]

Ah thanks yall!

[honest linden]

Shows 294 level there on that video?

I guess i need some mod that shows real level instead of just lvl 30 for all. Since im still total noob even though i hit my first lvl 30 lastnight

[hard goblet]

Yes. There's a true level mod that shows actual level based on accumulated exp which the game still tracks after reaching level 30.

[honest linden]

Installing as we speak 👌

[hard goblet]

That video also uses an enemy spawner mod for the psykhanium.

[honest linden]

Havent stepped there since prologue...

[hard goblet]

I'd highly recommend it when you're testing new weapons and blessings.

[honest linden]

Yeah i can see the benefits of it, i was just in hurry to get lvl 30 first so i can start actually crafting meaningful weapons

[hard goblet]

Understandable.

[honest linden]

Just used whatever Emperor gave me while leveling

Only crafted +10% exp curios

The moment i hit lvl 30, went to shop, and instantly picked that sword with 3x 80 and 1x 79 in the dmg stats, obviously sign from above to use it

[hard goblet]

I pray it doesn't end up bricked for you then.

[honest linden]

Well, perks are good i guess? So i just need 2 blessings and those i can guarantee to be good just by getting em from elsewhere first?

[hard goblet]

Can you post a screenshot of the weapon's stats and perks?

[honest linden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022932651138625627/1187111192251084800/image.png?ex=6595b273&is=65833d73&hm=1942f80ce0365f492ae75eca9c7ea0da97bdee5a7c355512d34fe57c64a542bc&

[hard goblet]

Ah yeah that's definitely a god roll for stats.

Very lucky.

I'm not familiar with the optimal blessings/perks though.

I'm sure the relevant class chat can help with that if no one else here is available.

[honest linden]

Yeah that would be Zealot, will ask a bit once i start unlocking those blessings for it

Currently my blessing list is blank

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth

This suggested Headtaker + Rampage

[fast laurel]

Headtaker and Rampage / Deatblow

[signal apex]

oh god

slaying judge

[honest linden]

So much hidden stuff in Talent tree too you cant know by only reading descriptions ingame

Like Fury of Faithful making you ignore enemy armor with ranged weapon for some seconds after use, so you can just autofire heavily armored targets down with some rapidfire weapon

Or Thy Wrath Be Swift applying to ranged fire too instead of just melee as it reads, so you can run to people shooting at you and not get slowed down

[vocal nacelle]

that combo is before headtaker nerf around patch 11-12

[honest linden]

To get those blessings, fastest way would be to consecrate some weapons of that type and grab their blessings?

[hard goblet]

Correct. Buy weapons from Brunt's and consecrate. You'll be playing the rng machine hoping for tier 4 blessings.

[honest linden]

Ill be fine with "just" tier 3 probably

I guess another reason to level more 30s too to access several stores

[hard goblet]

It'll depend on the weapon.

[honest linden]

Just got that browser extension to check shop

[hard goblet]

Weapons aren't shared.

[honest linden]

Blessings are though from what i read

[hard goblet]

If you want to subject yourself to that level grind, I won't stop you.

[honest linden]

Well i wanna see other classes than just Zealot too

I only have one at lvl 30 now

[hoary vessel]

can anyone recommend mods to do proper solo match? trying to explore details of the maps for lore and stuff, if im an asshole and missed this convo for so long lemme know just want to know what the people are using to do that atm

[honest linden]

Got that Deathblow on first try

RNG giveth

Problem is, i cant strip those both from it

So maybe ill have to use it instead

And just roll the perks better

[fast laurel]

good call yeah

those 2 blessings are pretty much BiS

[honest linden]

Was rolling those blessings for this slightly better one

But difference is so minimal, might aswell use the lower rating with the right blessings already in it