gameplay-help

[fervent ridge]

Those are some crazy perks

the blessing is good too

everything is perfect except the model

agri is still best infantry

columnus damage is a little low

[autumn crescent]

I see

[plain haven]

Im looking to understand how toughness works, looking for current information. Also trying to figure out how "Toughness Damage Resistance" comes into effect. Anyone know of any guides or anything? Googling is bringing up old info that helped, but may not be correct at this point.

[winter oar]

what does specialist mean

[plain haven]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?type=SPECIALIST

[tacit moth]

Hi everyone, ive got a question about rending. Obv. it should help against armored enemies but i coulndt find a good answer for unarmored/unyielding enemies. i was wondering if ruthless backstab would make a significant difference on monstrosities or even unarmored enemies

[plain haven]

This youtube video helped me understand rending. Bottom line, it wont help you do much more damage to something you already deal full damage to (unarmored) https://youtu.be/fIxOjj28cuE?si=taQVslERgIWsKq7L

Fair warning, there is math.

[fast laurel]

Do note however, that Rending is now capped at 100%

So having Rending applied to enemies you already dealt full damage towards wont give you extra damage anymore.

[dry crown]

Has anything ever been said about resource economy changes? I find myself swimming in Diamantine and always low on Plasteel, because even tho you tend to find more Plasteel it is also used a lot more frequently for upgrades. It's no dealbreaker by any means but it feels weird and counterintuitive to always be starved for the easy-to-get base material while having a huge bank of rare high-quality material

Even just having stuff like Re-Bless or the last level of consecrate cost more Diamantine than they do Plasteel would help

Also on the same page, do higher difficuly mission drop more resources or is it fine to stick to low threat when you're just trying to farm materials?

[plain haven]

I havent seen anything about it officially, but yes there is never enough plasteel :(. Also, higher difficulty will give you more resources. go as high as you can manage.

[fervent relic]

They do have higher spawn rates

Although it caps at damnation, so you don't have to play auric

[dry crown]

Thanks both of you

[autumn jasper]

which mod helps to see all bars with number and stats ?

[fervent ridge]

healthbar mod

[warm nebula]

Toughness is a percentage shield. All ranged damage removes toughness first, but a percentage of melee damage goes thru toughness.

How much? It’s based on how much missing toughness you have. For example, if you are on 90/100 Toughness, a melee attack that would do 10 damage does 9 damage to your Toughness and one damage to your HP.

[autumn crescent]

I love meth math

[oak cove]

so i have been wondering this for a while but what is the ideal method to farm out blessings? just grab a weapon with it if i see it in the armory, or buy a specific weapon from brunt's and upgrade it to blue?

[shell nest]

does auric dam quickplay give more rewards than regular quickplay on dam?

[crisp widget]

Does % damage against flak count only when hitting flak armor or any enemy that has flak armor somewhere, cause alot of enemies seem to be under the flak category

[quick remnant]

Only on parts that are flak

Most enemies have more than 1 armour types

[crisp widget]

arite so it's the damage type that shows up in psykanium when hitting the part that counts then I assume?

[quick remnant]

Yes. Gameslantern has a full part guide

[crisp widget]

arity thank you :)

[mossy smelt]

Are higher marks of the same weapon just straight up better? Wondering whether to get a Mk III or a Mk VI power sword on my vet

[autumn crescent]

what are the desired stats and perks on curios for veteran ?

[warm nebula]

No, they’re just a tradeoff between horizontal/vertical strikes, or fire rate vs damage per shot

[hearty mason]

Question, which perk should i change for flak or unarmored:

[fervent ridge]

1.5 stam to 25 flak

[autumn crescent]

@fervent ridge this good ?

ah frick

[fervent ridge]

as good as a columnus is going to get

[autumn crescent]

based

[round elk]

hey guys, do you know what a yellow exclamation mark is?

[quick remnant]

Something changed on that curio. Due to last balance ptch

[proven tapir]

If I extract a t4 blessing, do I get that blessing for all weapons going forward or just that one subtype?

[warm nebula]

Just the “weapon family”. For example, all three flavors of Recon Lasgun, but not the Infantry Lasgun

[quick remnant]

That one weapon type

[bitter oyster]

For Melk contracts, "Kill 1000 Scab with ranged"
Does Smite and other kinds of blitz count for that?

[winter juniper]

this gun looking like its worth rolling on?

[hasty elm]

are you guys using vortex to install mods in darktide?

[fervent ridge]

nexusmods darktide mod framework

[fervent ridge]

first perk isn't ideal, pass

[winter juniper]

ended up rolling on it

got this

[craggy minnow]

You can but its really not necessary and the framework is a manual install anyway

[vital oar]

hey my entire desktop sound just disappears as soon as i join a match somehow anyone know why that could happen?

[hasty elm]

is there a way to spam heavy attacks without long press mouse buttons? like bind heavy attack on certain key?

[fervent ridge]

then you'll have to long press that key

[exotic glacier]

Okay so there isn't really a tech help chat, but I'm running into an issue where my audio becomes garbled during hordes, especially when multiple specials and elites are involved, but after clipping the bug when it occurs, the issue isn't present on the playback of the video clip. What am I supposed to do?

[mellow quiver]

Hello. Is there any guide of how to setup the game to turn everything unnecessary to improve performance and decrease load on the system?

[inner flicker]

Auric can be one of many modifiers, so it depends. Hi-Intensity Gauntlet 4 would be harder than Normal 5, but Hound 4 would be probably be easier than Normal 5.

[glad trout]

Hiya peeps, I've tried to click on the menu to get the premium cosmetics currency but just get a (seemingly) infinite loading spin, is there any sort of work around or have I been drip filtered?

[inner flicker]

There isn't a strictly increasing scale.

[hard goblet]

Auric is simply a category that guarantees high difficulty modifiers. It's separate from the base difficulty levels of damnation and heresy etc.

[hard goblet]

Can't say I've heard of this problem before, sorry.

[glad trout]

Skill issue ig

[hard goblet]

Sounds like it could be a hardware issue with your speakers or headphones then since you're not hearing it on playback? It might be noted in the bugs or technical issues section of the Darktide forum.

[hasty elm]

where can I read up what auric level does to monsters hp/dmg?

is 4heresy level the same difficulty as nonauric heresy?

in terms of monster health

[exotic glacier]

My headphones are new is the only problem, and I haven’t encountered any issues with them prior

[exotic glacier]

All auric does is make the mission hi intensity + 1 or more additional modifiers, heresy enemies have heresy health

[hasty elm]

can I see some graphic on that?

[hard goblet]

Auric has no effect on the hp/damage of enemies.

High Intensity as a modifier for example only adjusts the spawn patterns to be more frequent, last longer, and have more enemies.

Enemy health and damage is determined by difficulty level i.e. Uprising, Sedition, Malice, Heresy, Damnation

[scenic field]

Does the toughness replenished by Vicious Offering stack on top of the base toughness recovered on kill, or does it replace it with it's higher value?

[hard goblet]

It's 7.5% of your total toughness.

That is added to the base amount you earn on kill if I remember correctly.

[tawny laurel]

Is this any good?

[sudden eagle]

Infernus to deadly accurate?

[fast laurel]

correct

[sudden eagle]

Thanks

[fast laurel]

Well you need to switch both of those blessings

One saving grace on the perks side is the Unyielding perk.

[hexed adder]

Two questions

1. Is there a point to killing daemonhosts? Does it have a hidden roll to emperor rewards at the end?
2. Other than challenge, what is Auric good for?

[fast laurel]

1. No

[stone trail]

what are the symbols for of the attack?

[fast laurel]

2. More dockets and experience

[hexed adder]

On xbox there is no prestige xp so, what's the point?

[hexed adder]

30 seems to be the hard stop

[fast laurel]

no one knows xd

[quick remnant]

It's FS

[fast laurel]

On pc at least we can just install the Truelevel mod to see our actual level past 30

I personally dont use the mod however so I still see only 30

[stone trail]

it's the same game as the PC it's even crossplay.
there can't be something missing

oh mods

[hexed adder]

I can't see damage numbers.

[stone trail]

how can 30 be the limit

[hexed adder]

30 is the limit, you stop getting xp passed it.

[stone trail]

why does the atta ks of weapons have these symbols and if you view details it will have like three or two

this game doesn't explain shit

[hexed adder]

I just got lvl 30 on all 4 classes and I am trying to figure out why I should try auric. Teams keep failing and I just feel like farming malice/heresy would be easier.

And more rewarding*

[quick remnant]

#gameplay-help message

[stone trail]

I'm on game help dude

[hexed adder]

^

[quick remnant]

Click the message and it send you to a specific message

Which explain the stuff

Or open the pins

[stone trail]

it's so low res I can't read it

[quick remnant]

Better like this ?

[dry crown]

I get the feeling Auric is specifically for groups who want something like "The ultimate challenge" a way for experienced players to try the hardest of missions

It's purely meant for tryhards

And I mean that in the good sense

People who go really hard into improving as a player, not whiny crybabies who rage and blame team for everything bad that happens

Also quick question, anyone have any idea of what a "Flash" mission is? I saw it on the "Mission" subsection of penances but never see it on the mission board

[muted wolf]

Thats the funny thing.
Damnation is easier than heresy for farming, because good players mostly play it.

I personally think what heresy should be default hard farming mode, and damnation merged with auric whatever, but we have what we have.

[stone trail]

what does grimore do?

[warm nebula]

Unreleased, unfinished mission

[warm nebula]

It gives you corruption over time

[dry crown]

Any hope it will get added in the future?

[warm nebula]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dry crown]

Shame

[stone trail]

what's that?

[muted wolf]

Purple bar.

[stone trail]

when you finish a mission it always looks frozen on that screen with the players for a little while

what's corruption over time?

[warm nebula]

Yes. It might be asking you "Merge Strike Teams?"

[stone trail]

where does or when does the game explain this stuff?

[warm nebula]

That's the neat part, it doesn't

[stone trail]

it gives me achievements for completing trust factor but how do you know what the chapters are the missions are just floating around the screen with expire time bars

the rating of weapons seems like it doesn't indicate that it's better

what's a warp attack?
that anything that gives you the % number

Warp Attack?
Peril Quell?

[woeful root]

basically yeah

[stone trail]

what's Peril?

[woeful root]

the number on your screen that goes up when you use your staff/blitz/force sword special

soulblaze (blue fire damage-over-time) also counts as a warp attack

[stone trail]

ok that makes sense thanks

soulblaze isn't Peril
warp causes Peril to go up

but what's soulblaze

oh I see it!!!

CLASS TALENTS

Ability, Blitz, Aura, Passive

oh this game is neat

[woeful root]

ye

soulblaze is this fire effect applied by some talents and the Purgatus staff (and other staffs if you have the Blazing Spirit blessing)

[stone trail]

I wonder what a Specialist enemy is?

[woeful root]

ctrl + F for 'specialist' on this page and you'll see which ones count as specialists https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[stone trail]

oh thank you

the Gain Toughness Damage Reduction of +10 to +33 based on current Peril.

do you think that means you get more reduction the higher or lower your Peril is?

[woeful root]

you get more damage reduction the higher your peril is

damn is the description really that bad

[quick remnant]

Yes, Quickpaw said it's still in the plans

[woeful root]

why couldn't they just indicate that you get more DR the higher your peril is

:(

[stone trail]

no I'm just a slow geek

[fast laurel]

some descriptions on the vet and zealot tree is also equally bad

[woeful root]

i do think that the descriptions could be improved

you may or may not run into other examples of fatshark description-itis in the future

[stone trail]

you can't zig zag over to Scrier's Gaze if you've chosen Kinetic Presence.
you can't go upward on the tree

[subtle ether]

This seems to me like a pretty insane roll, what would you swap? (I use this on a Vet build that's basically built for melee)

[stone trail]

I wonder why they won't let you have those skills together?

[rigid wasp]

Swap dev strike out

A tier 1 blessing has no business there

[subtle ether]

Is there a tier 4 blessing equivilant for it?

[quick remnant]

Build restriction, forcing you to chose

[rigid wasp]

There's dev strike 4, but at that point you're going overboard on cleave

[stone trail]

oh it's because Kinetic Presence does +5% to Elites & Specials
and then Scrier's Gaze does a lot of damage as well.

[rigid wasp]

Rampage and shred are two nice blessings for chainsword, depending on your build

[stone trail]

what do you think
+50% Dodge Duration does?

[subtle ether]

basically I've gone voice of command combined with full mellee skills, lots of bleed and crit procs etc

[fast laurel]

It currently doesnt work

[rigid wasp]

Based

[subtle ether]

Would you swap either of the modifiers?

[stone trail]

doesn't work?

[fast laurel]

yes

dodge duration doesnt do anything at the moment

[rigid wasp]

I could swear my knife was having nutty dodges, but maybe it's just knife

[stone trail]

I thought Dodge was just a quick little thing that is you dodge and that's it.
what would 50+% duration do?

[fast laurel]

Im guessing it increases your 'dodge' state for about 1-2 seconds longer afaik

so you have a few extra second or seconds to be still in your 'dodge' state, therefore allowing you to negate any incoming damage.

[stone trail]

"Weakspot Kills count as 1s spent in Scrier's Gaze."
? does thatean it extends the Gaze time, or reduces it?

[stone trail]

that's how I imagined it.
that seems useful

[dry crown]

Yeah "Dodge duration" sounds like extra I-frames to me

[stone trail]

Scrier's Gaze is 30s cool down.
so... a weakspot kill for only 1s more seems like not very much of anything

[rigid wasp]

It gives an extra second of stacks

It's unrelated to the cooldown

Gaze itself has no duration

[stone trail]

no Gaze is 30s

[woeful root]

it lasts until your peril hits 100%

[stone trail]

your Peril goes up for 30s
so Gaze does have durstion

[woeful root]

you can keep it past 30 seconds but it will be highly impractical to do so

[stone trail]

which is 30s
it says at the bottom

"Base Cooldown 30s"

[woeful root]

that's the cooldown

[stone trail]

oh is Cooldown how long till you can use it again

[woeful root]

ye

[stone trail]

it says the Peril build up is temporarily slowed down by enemy kills

ok what the.. what is
"Finesse Damage"? lol

oh.. I'm sorry guys

I googled some stuff.. this isn't as complicated as it looked

that guide about attacks is for PC
is special attack left trigger?

Blitz Attack?

[rigid wasp]

Finesse is crit and headshot damage

[warm nebula]

your grenade. Psykers don't get grenades, they get other skills, but they're still called "blitz"

[rigid wasp]

Special is the special action the weapon does, like the knife punch or chainsword rev

[stone trail]

is there a way to remove Wargear Sets?
I have 5

[stone trail]

oh thank you

[fast laurel]

Right click on one of the loadout icons

[stone trail]

Peril Quelled vs Peril Generated
what's the difference?

[fast laurel]

simplest explanation is quelling peril is you removing your peril, and generating peril is you adding up to it.

[stone trail]

"while below critical Peril"
what is critical Peril?

[rigid wasp]

97

[stone trail]

why are there exclamation marks on the talent tree when there isn't anything I can do that makes them go away?

[rigid wasp]

Fatshark

[frosty agate]

What are the recommended Curios on each class?

If anyone knows of course

[stone trail]

how many maps are there?

how can you tell the order of levels.
they just keep changing?

[rigid wasp]

There's no order here

We just do what pops up in this purgatory of a planet

[stone trail]

but I get achievements for finishing chapters so there must be an order

[fast laurel]

You cant really go wrong with 3x toughness or 2x toughness and 1 hp for each class

and perks are gunner resist, hp/toughness and whatever you wish to keep, or what youre willing to have locked

[fast laurel]

its rotational

[cosmic gull]

tried to search google with no luck, can anyone tell me what this 5/5 thing is for on the character select screen?

[frosty agate]

Wounds not worth?

[fast laurel]

contracts that you finished on this certain character

[fast laurel]

we dont really recommend wound curios unless you want to optimize Zealot martyrdom builds

[cosmic gull]

thank you so much Mail!

[fast laurel]

you are welcome

[gaunt torrent]

Is it possible to do Auric missions on Damnation only without waiting for the lower difficulty rotations?

[hard goblet]

What do you mean by "waiting for the lower difficulty rotations"?

[rigid wasp]

You just queue quickplay damnation

[hard goblet]

If you queue for Auric Damnation missions, you will only be sent into Auric Damnation missions on that mission board section.

[gaunt torrent]

Quickplay damnation is kind of too easy. I'd like to queue for Auric damnation all the time but most of the time when I get to the mission terminal all I see is Auric Heresy and lower

Question is, is there a way to avoid the Auric timer while waiting for Damnation difficulty to pop on the board again?

[hard goblet]

Uh

Do you mean this?

[rigid wasp]

I don't remember auric only having heresy

[hard goblet]

Yeah..

That's why I'm confused.

[gaunt torrent]

Oh, I am an idiot. It seems i only did Standard Maelstorm and I thought it was an Auric one

[rigid wasp]

🫵

[gaunt torrent]

Had no idea there are multiple pages on the board

thanks lol

[rigid wasp]

Yep

[hard goblet]

Lower left corner.

[gaunt torrent]

time to get my ass whooped now

Thanks everyone

[stone trail]

DarkTide crashed to the dashboard; I was modding weapons

with the Penances what are Thresholds?

is there anything you can do in the hub?
like can you chat with others?

[stone trail]

this game is great!
I wonder what other games are like this?

Remnant 2?

[naive kelp]

I can open my Chat, type in it but cant send something, why

[fast laurel]

Vermintide 2 also

[woeful root]

it's a bug that happens to me usually when i get disconnected and whatnot

fixes itself on restart

don't know of any other solution though

[carmine ermine]

any good?

[stone trail]

I like V2 but kind of only now because I like DarkTide.
I used to try V2 and I just couldn't get it.
swing swing swing, rats rats swing

the combat felt like it wasn't connecting

[west holly]

I need help doing the dead eye penance for the upper body

[rigid wasp]

If you don't see this, restart your game

[wooden schooner]

Any advice for what class to play on the harder difficulties? My build probably sucks but I’m lvl 26 zerker and 25 psycher and still feels like I just get melted/don’t cut it

[topaz badger]

I feel like all classes are pretty viable, just play malice/heresy till 30 then try to roll some weapons and gear before going into damnation

find a class build weapon combo that fits your play style, ranged dps sniping elites and specials, horde clear, tank, cc psyker or something

[wooden schooner]

Psyker is probably my favorite but I keep getting full orgryn lobbies and they seem to do a lot better than me lol. I die really fast while their fine with the hordes

[summer pier]

Brain rupture right click just altogether stops working after you use shriek with kinetic resonance. Anyone else experience this?

[hard goblet]

All classes are equally viable and survivability comes down more to your situational awareness and skill rather than merely what build you're running. If you feel like you're being pushed in at your current level of difficulty, my recommendation would be to go down a level and play missions until you can consistently get through 90% if not 100% of all encounters without taking any health damage.

The same techniques and knowledge apply at higher difficulties, there's just much less forgiveness if you get hit. So learning how to manage things like spacing, target priority, and dodging will help you not go down during hordes.

You may always want to look at what weapons you're using and see if their moveset is suited to addressing what you have the most problems with.

Some melee weapons have movesets more suited to crowd control and hordes than others.

You can ask the respective class chats like #psyker-class or #zealot-class about survivability builds if you want to give yourself more breathing room via the talent tree.

[summer pier]

@signal gate any idea what’s going on here?

[signal gate]

coding

[signal gate]

after doing some testing myself, it still works if you hold both m1 and m2

but

i stopped gaining peril

like, long after my F buff ended

[summer pier]

wtf

[signal gate]

oh

EP now gives 100% reduction

honestly that's a nerf

it should be halved or 75%

[summer pier]

actual spaghetti code at its finest

[signal gate]

cause then you can gain peril

which is needed

[summer pier]

yeah I suspect that has something to do with it

[signal gate]

for both venting bonuses and also warp rider bonus

[summer pier]

It happens without EP actually. It’s confined to the “Kinetic Resonance” talent for Brain Rupture

[autumn crescent]

what blessings do you want on MK4 Devil's Claw ?

[fervent ridge]

Rampage 4 + Savage Sweep 4 [3 is still fine] / Shred 4

Run it with the ult cooldown refund on crit talent if you are Zealot and you will have your ult every 4 seconds

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1164529007753171045/191023_Magistrati_Dclaw_Time.mp4?ex=654cc5a7&is=653a50a7&hm=933a12fa45370aaa5caa8f24d132eae738b41fa4e593474f537a54d84a82518f&

[autumn crescent]

Are these blessings good ?

[fervent ridge]

no

[autumn crescent]

what are the ideal blessings ?

[fervent ridge]

literally scroll a few messages up

[autumn crescent]

oof my bad

[onyx girder]

generally, psyker isnt the best at melee
you'll want to hang back and support the team in hordes with your staffs and skills
you can absolutely melee as him though, but your lower health pool makes it a challenge

that and you're comparing yourself to the tanks of darktide

[fervent ridge]

Light them up sparkead'

[onyx girder]

kinda wish one of the keystones for psyker was unchained's mechanics

could easily change the marked enemies one to that

higher peril = higher stats, health dmg taken is mitigated and shared with peril

[clever blade]

what's the difference between all the Lucius helbore weapons? like for model's 1, 2 and 3 what makes them unique to each other?

[little coyote]

fire/charge rate and damage mostly

[clever blade]

which has the most damage?

[little coyote]

3 is the slowest but does the most damage iirc whilst 1 is the fast without much damage per shot

[clever blade]

so Mk 2 is the middle ground between the 1 and 3?

[little coyote]

or the fast one might've been 2, anyways the big shot is 3

[clever blade]

aayt thanks

[little coyote]

np

[mental sequoia]

Keep or Dismantle? Would be using it for Sly Marbo.

[warm nebula]

I dunno, that’s kinda hilarious build. If you take Suppression Immunity in your class build, you’re kinda just saying no to lots of game mechanics

If only Run&Gun let you reload while sprinting

[cosmic wadi]

Why aren't there pox bursters in the meat grinder?

[warm nebula]

#justFatSharkthings

[clever blade]

if i surrender a blessing from a Mk 2 Lucius gun, do i get to use the blessing on the Mk 2 varinats only or to all lucius guns?

[cosmic wadi]

It's weird that sometimes my uncharged plasma gun shot will knockdown a pox burster, sometimes it doesn't

[warm nebula]

All helbore lasguns

[warm nebula]

Headshot maybe?

[fast laurel]

I'll keep it and just switch those 2 blessings

Most fitting blessings for it is Deathspitter and Fire Frenzy/Dumdum

[mental sequoia]

Interesting I did get recommended these blessings but I will keep an eye out for the others

[outer orchid]

What should I change for this dueling sword now that the rampage blessing is good?

[fast laurel]

Mark 4 pairs well with crit chance blessings actually

so you only need to change that Unyielding for flak or maniac

[vapid pivot]

a question, people can see Disrupt Destiny outline?

[fast laurel]

youre already doing full damage against Unyielding

[fast laurel]

I dont think so

[vapid pivot]

damn... thanks

[raven turtle]

Confirmed no

That's one reason why Disrupt Destiny is bad

Alongside the fact that it's bugged and that you lose all charges at once

[eternal flicker]

hi people, stuck on this one for a while, what does the blessing "Supercharge" actually do? it says plus 4 rending but is that a percentage or something?

other rending blessings seem to have a percentage but theres no amount on this one, just +4

[fast laurel]

it gives brittlneness on attacks to a target that is hit

iirc +4 rending is 8 brittleness stacks applied

1 stack is 2.5%. Which gives a total of 20% rending at full stacks

benefitting you and the whole team

[eternal flicker]

so if i hit an enemy with the power sword charged attack with this blessing, the whole team does 20% damage to that enemy through their armour?

[void forge]

Uh no rending does not apply brittleness. Rending is a buff that applies only to one person and brittleness is a debuff that applies to enemies

[eternal flicker]

its weird cause the other rending blessings like handcannon and ruthless backstab etc are x% rending rather than just a flat number, very confusing

[void forge]

Clamp to 16 stacks of 2.5% each, max capping to old 40% on each instance of buff (player/target) for a sum “normal” cap of 80%.

^from patch 13 notes on rending

[fast laurel]

Brittleness

[fast laurel]

CORRECTION: Supercharge gives you up to 16 stacks of brittleness

totaling a 40% Rending applied, benefitting the whole team

[void forge]

I never claimed anything about the blessing in general, just clarifying rending vs brittleness

[fast laurel]

easiest distinction is if its a flat percentage rending. Its a self buff and ONLY applies to you. Hand cannon and Ruthless Backstab is a self buff

Brittleness isnt a self buff however, its a reductive effect against enemies, and its benefits the whole team

[eternal flicker]

so supercharge and thunderous are roughly the same blessing?

except thunderous is on any hit

[fast laurel]

yes

[eternal flicker]

I see, thank you guys so much, this confused me so much trying to find blessings for the sword XD

[fast laurel]

Supercharge is a meh blessing and besides having a use case against tanky enemies like Plague Ogryn and other monstrosities

You want Power Cycler and Rampage/Brutal Momentum instead

[eternal flicker]

is slaughterer not recommended anymore?

[fast laurel]

Slaughterer is what Wrath is to Savage Sweep

Rampage is currently bugged right now, it applies the normal POWER increase.

Which if you havent already know, the in game tool tip is a LIE.

Rampage applies both the power increase AND the old damage buff pre Patch 13

[raven turtle]

slaught is ok, but BM is so much better

[eternal flicker]

it seems i will need to change over my old powersword XD

[fast laurel]

so with Rampage you get a 100% damage increase, with the normal 36% increase to stagger and cleave

[raven turtle]

On the other hand, you might not want to get Rampage, no get accustomed to it, and suffer from the fix when it'll come out (eventually)

[fast laurel]

Its still a 36% power increase vs Slaughterer's 40% increase at max stacks

a 4% difference

but this is assuming Rampage's power increase itself isnt going to get nerfed

and they will only fix the Rampage bug

[eternal flicker]

36% activated instantly in a horde is worth the trade by the sounds of it. If rampage gets changed to just damage then slaughterer will be better?

their needs to be a codex or something in game describing what power, rending and brittleness etc do lol

[fast laurel]

Thing is

[raven turtle]

That's what I was talking about, yes

[fast laurel]

the old Slaughterer was iirc a 50% power increase?

and old Rampage was fucking 17.5% damage increase

the gap is just too big that Slaughterer is just BiS before patch 13

[eternal flicker]

I have an actual idea of what im doing now XD thanks people, saved me alot of resources too lol

[fickle imp]

Is there a way to fix square names and chat?

[magic nexus]

is it me or the server is shite

i kept dc with 2001/2014 error

[fervent ridge]

if you're playing with chinese that's just how the names come

Because darktide doesn't translate their cn names outside of the boxes

[fast laurel]

There is a mod called Show CJK Glyphs however if you wish to see the characters

[outer orchid]

Why did they nerf pinning fire so hard?

From 100 percent to 25

[fervent ridge]

It was way too strong on shredder and bolter

so they gutted it to bring it in line with other weapons

[outer orchid]

Yeah but nerf it to 50 at least

[formal swan]

Because 100 percent was dumb

[outer orchid]

25 is a death blow

[formal swan]

Even 50 is more than the vast majority of blessings

[outer orchid]

It should be a T3 blessing

[formal swan]

Shredder pistol is still good and still can run pinning

[outer orchid]

Its worse than blaze away

[fervent ridge]

I don't like it either I was using bolter with heavysword and shredder with thunderhammer so the pf nerf killed both of my main builds

but you gotta move on

[outer orchid]

I spent over 60k plasteel farming for it on shredder and bolter

[fervent ridge]

'get fucked kid'

[outer orchid]

Yeah

[fervent ridge]

-fatshark, probably

[formal swan]

Both weps are still good on patch 14, you can keep using them

[outer orchid]

They need to give compensation

[outer orchid]

I only play maelstrom nowadays

[formal swan]

Yes

[fervent ridge]

I just moved on to devil's claw which is fucking broken baby woo

[outer orchid]

They feel very very weak at that difficulty

[formal swan]

You can 1 mag a monstro with bolter on vet lol

[outer orchid]

Yes that sword makes hordes into graves

[fervent ridge]

there are still kant shotty, agri brauto and flamer for the ranged options, but I'll definitely not play bolter in maelstrom anymore yeah

[outer orchid]

Really?

[formal swan]

Yes

[outer orchid]

What build?

Executioners?

[formal swan]

Left side

Ya

[outer orchid]

Maybe if u score all headshots

[formal swan]

The finesse value on bolter is high now

Benefits a lot from headshots

[outer orchid]

Hmm i havent used it since the last patch

[formal swan]

Sec

[outer orchid]

Ive only used plasmagun

That weapon is the god emperor's wrath itself

Shoots through hordes like a hot knife through butter

[formal swan]

#veteran-class message

Onemag

Plasma is easier to use but the monstro dps on it suggs hard

Better for specialist sniping though

[outer orchid]

Hmmm it seems u speak the truth

The reload speed is still too slow and the mag size is too low tbh

If i wanted to deal with monstrosities id play zealot hammer

[formal swan]

#veteran-class message

[outer orchid]

Bolter should be used by zealot and not vet i suppose

Since vet had plasma

[formal swan]

It's still gud against other targets

It's just clunky

[outer orchid]

Its not bad

Ill try pairing it with heavy sword on my zealot

[formal swan]

Plasma is just a lot easier to use since you just spam left click and have tons of cleave

[outer orchid]

Yes

[formal swan]

But if you really like Bolter the dmg is still there

[outer orchid]

It is

Thats never been its biggest weakness

Its weakness is how clunky and slow it is

[formal swan]

Pinning is still bis on it btw

[outer orchid]

And u only get 15 rounds

And poor ammo economy

[outer orchid]

Ye i still have my old setup

Cavalcade + pinning fire

[fast laurel]

Surgical

[formal swan]

Ya pinning surgical is best now I think

You even get 2second surgical

[fast laurel]

Treat the Bolter as more a heavy hitting DMR now

and Cavalcade incentivizes you magdumping enemies

[sudden eagle]

Which is more consistent or better on CAxes, headtaker or decimator?

[fervent ridge]

headtaker

[fierce harness]

is the max base stat roll still 400 on weapons? I not seen one since I got back into the game 2 weeks ago.

[quick remnant]

380

[fierce harness]

ty

also curious does doing higher level missions, and more modifiers affect the quality of items you get for missions or are you just as likely to get better items buying?\

[fast laurel]

we dont really rely on emp's gifts to get better weapons

I think yeah higher difficulties gives better rewards

and youre correct, you get better items from buying from Brunt

and NEVER buy anything from Melk's mystery slots

[spiral lava]

What perks do I run on this?

[nova viper]

Does Terrifying Barrage trigger sleeping Daemonhost?

[rigid wasp]

RIP that sword

[spiral lava]

Yeah it has happened to me

[fervent ridge]

25 Flak 25 Maniac

Also applicable for 90% of melee weapons

with very few exceptions

I.e thunderhammer wants 25 Unyield 25 Maniac/Cara

But pick any 5 weapons and 4 will want 25 Flak/Maniac

[spiral lava]

Thanks

[raven sable]

It’s good on the right team comp though generally you only need one person with it

Two people is a little redundant

And in my opinion it’s best to use with a quick weapon like a knife or Taxe

[pastel brook]

anyone know how fixe that error out of memory ????

only ever game i get that error and i did alrdy scan my memory in windows

[wooden schooner]

What’s the best class for just straight melee?

[quick remnant]

Zealot

[pastel brook]

zealot

[rigid wasp]

I'd go will all of them except ogryn, and because I didn't play ogryn

[fervent ridge]

Zealot, but followed very close by Ogryn

and in some instances Ogryn is superior

if a situation is unstable but not doomed yet, ogryn can very quickly correct the imbalance faster than zelly, but when things are truly doomed zealot has the best chances of pulling it back from the brink with almost 0 resources and mainly melee

[compact iris]

Should I lose Slaughterer or Rampage for Power Cycler here?

On another note: I've heard that Rampage is bugged right now and more effective than it probably should be. Is that true?

[hard goblet]

Considering your rampage is tier 4, I'd replace slaughterer.

Yes.

[tough dirge]

Anybody got some tips on how to do the Just a flesh wound penance?

[fervent ridge]

Magistrati oubliette low intensity heresy or damnation

stand in a fire at the start of game to go to sub 50% HP

Do not wait behind cover: charge gunner lines to pull them into melee

ignore mat pickups

Hold down W

[rigid wasp]

"Play zealot, but do it at less than 50% health"

[glad trout]

If I'm trying to get the 90% accuracy Penance on Veteran (but don't wanna play with quick play randoms) would I want to mention that in a lfg_nasa posting?

Feel that could be a mild hindrance to team

[solid kiln]

Do we know how the dagger blessing Executor works even if it weren't bugged with DoTS?

Does it work like the other % Power perks

Or does the word Level in power level mean it works differently?

[mossy smelt]

I just raw dogged it in quickplay running a melee vet with a plasma gun. I didn’t dump all the ammo at the start and instead just used it when I was sure I was gonna hit something

[glad trout]

Yeah I've been having issues lmao. I think I'll have a clean shot and then someone else just krumps the guy

I'm also doing plasma gun for now

[mossy smelt]

Plasma into horde and bosses is your best bet

That or roll at brunt’s until you get something that is single shot with abysmal ammo

[glad trout]

My current has one spare cell basically

[mossy smelt]

On overwatch was the worst one for me, managed to get it with infiltrate with two charges and the threat reduction modifiers. Though I only completed it when I realised toughness was not, in fact, a perfect shield

[glad trout]

I was lucky on that one and had a friend watch my back for a mission or two, knocked it out somewhat quickly

It's just this last one I'm having trouble with

[mossy smelt]

As long as you fire at things you’re absolutely sure you’ll hit like hordes and a beast of nurgle lumbering towards you you’ll get it done in no time

Heck, you could use a low ammo profane stub revolver. Not like you need to kill what you hit

[glad trout]

That's true yeah

I'll try a few more with plasma and if I'm still getting skill checked I'll try the revolver strat

Thanks for the tips/ encouragement!

[hasty elm]

can I do two the same missions? for example plasteel

when I alrady finished one

[hard goblet]

I don't believe you can have repeat contracts.

[weak sleet]

Am fervently hoping you can obtain one with more than 40% damage, ouch

But yeah, they're a super fun weapon

melt elites for days

[crimson wyvern]

is there a way to turn off none important dialogue?

[glad trout]

One day lmao

[exotic glacier]

There should be a setting in audio to turn off crit sounds

[carmine ermine]

any good?

is the blessing good?

[exotic glacier]

Weird, I thought headshot affected crits too. If it doesn’t though, that’s my bad, my apologies.

[vocal nacelle]

Rip out the blessing thats a very low blast dmg

[vocal nacelle]

Block to flak, perfect strike to brutal momentum

[still helm]

This probably gets asked a lot, but what exactly is rending?

[outer orchid]

Bonus damage to carapace enemies

[still helm]

Only carapaced enemies?

[inner flicker]

This explains rending, ctrl-f "Rending has changed a bit": https://www.playdarktide.com/news/patch-13-patch-notes

[blissful python]

Does anyone have a fix for the bug where you join an in-progress game and your weapons don't load in / you have no aiming UI?

[rigid wasp]

Your weapons have a base damage value for each attack, and modifiers associated to those attacks for each armor type, those ranging from unarmored to carapace

[vocal nacelle]

Basically armor piercing or reducing any armor

Affects all type or armor

[rigid wasp]

Rending will reduce that value by the declared percentage until you're dealing your base damage to that enemy, and then each 4% above that will give you 1% damage towards that armor type

It's also additive, so if you do 20% damage to carapace and have 80% rending, you'll deal 100% damage to carapace

And if you reach 100% rending, you will deal the entire base damage plus 5% because of the remaining 20% divided by 4

[wanton canopy]

do crit increase cleave ?

[vocal nacelle]

yes

[wanton canopy]

do you know how much ?

[vocal nacelle]

nope

[rigid wasp]

any update on the resupply allies penance getting removed or worked on?

[vocal nacelle]

they know

[cedar dune]

We came out the elevator and the pathway to the right is where the medstation is. And its the only path we came from and the only path we can go into... Is this unavoidable?

1 went ahead and walked hugging the wall but it still woke it...

[coral violet]

there is a ledge grab jump to the left of the airlock

not sure its possible with lowest mobility slab shield but everything else is pretty consistent

[cedar dune]

Yea the corner to the left of the elevator. Its open to the bottom. 1 tried to jump from it but fell and held on the ledge.

[vernal plaza]

To the left of the elevatoe, jump

[vernal plaza]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjtxQCxkNmCrwIRvk4WvSeYcUi1kxgw0o?si=MdPMe_c0BcddExBH

[autumn crescent]

I think this should be fairly decent if I get another good blessing/perk ?

I don't mind the 66% ammo because of shock trooper

[craggy minnow]

Honestly the two you have are good, so if the other two are trash its nbd. The modifier total is low but having a 35 in mobility means everything else is as good as most higher rating ones

If you like the gun itself you should be able to get it damnation-ready i think

[coral violet]

specialist damage is just a half of maniac roll

its really not all that great

[glad trout]

Are they any quality of life mods that peeps recommend running?

[little coyote]

Numeric UI is pretty great

And true level if you care to see if other people in your lobby are very experienced or just slightly experienced

[glad trout]

What's it do exactly?

Also I don't much care about people's experience so long as they aren't trolling or throwing

[little coyote]

Shows hp and ammo in clear numbers for every player in the match

Also effective dodges

[coral violet]

it just shows you a rough estimate of what you can expect out of the player

[glad trout]

Ah okay, that'd be kinda useful

[glad trout]

I suppose that could be handy but I just don't see myself caring all that much

I'm a very casual player so I don't expect all too much from the rest of the team

[lament pollen]

how do i find which maps have the curruptor

[little coyote]

For the achievement? Corruptors are the spiderlike machines with large single eye that show up after you destroy the three growths on three different tentacles

Can't recall the exact names for the maps with those though

[coral violet]

Relay Station TRS-150, Silo Cluster 18-66A, Smelter Complex HL17-36, Ascension Riser 31

[quartz dragon]

https://youtu.be/aK4zZ0SNPzc?si=vhj_gV9mSR3kfEJL Here’s 5 tips on how to push into Auric from a pro ass gamer hellll yea 😎

[clever blade]

if i surrender a blessing from purgatus force staff, is the blessing available to voidstrike and surge force staff or only purgatus?

[fervent ridge]

Only Purgatus

[clever blade]

i keep getting the same blessings on my anointed(blue) purgatus staff. Do i need to upgrade it further to get new blessings? im tryna farm

[fervent ridge]

are you level 30 yet

[clever blade]

yes

[fervent ridge]

hm then seems like bad luck

[clever blade]

damn

[left heron]

What do you do if your numbers indicate they are not good enough to play with you, leave the lobby?

[little coyote]

Nah I just know if I can trust them more rushing alone or similar or if I need to try to keep close and give support, just an early indicator. I'd never leave based on some arbitrary face value

[left heron]

Cool, I just got a character to level 30, got scared it was gonna be some elitist hell like Neverwinter became 🙂 Do you get more ability points after L30?

[little coyote]

Nothing special like that after 30

Just an extra number next to the base level to see how many overlevels they've got

And that alone rarely means anything, seen worse 30+250 level Vets than 30+2 level Ogryns

[left heron]

Thanks for the info. I will get the other classes levelled up first anyway, more fun for me to develop them than end game stuff with no real point other than better gear to get better gear, or is there more to post L30 play than that?

[glad trout]

Can you do penances in private matches?

[fervent ridge]

yes

[still helm]

Any idea how much rending this is in percentage?

[fast laurel]

its not a self buff but brittleness

max that you can apply with supercharge is 16 stacks

1 stack is 2.5% rending

[still helm]

I know it’s not a self buff, just didn’t know how much since rending is usually in percentages

[fast laurel]

so it benefits your whole team if you apply brittleness as opposed to actual rending that is a self buff and only applies to you

[still helm]

I don’t think it’s brittleness either, that’s.. brittleness. This is still rending, and it sounds like it’s only on that attack instead of applying it to the enemy

[fast laurel]

yeah its still technically rending

fatshark just doesnt use their own terminology consistently

[still helm]

Fair enough

I think I’ll have to test the blessing out to get a sure answer, if I can ever roll for it :p

[fast laurel]

its not the greatest blessing in the power sword's blessing pool when it has Rampage and Brutal Momentum also

[lime imp]

Fatshark lies

Rule no.1

[still helm]

Objectively, probably, but I personally have more trouble with armoured enemies than just a whole lot of enemies. It’ll depend on how much rending it truly gives >.>

[fast laurel]

it caps at 16 stacks

for a total of 40% rending, teamwide benefit

I have Onslaught active in the clip but you can still reach the max cap without Onslaught

[still helm]

Huh, you were right. Guess it really was just fatshark using the wrong words again

[cerulean badge]

Worth it to buy for a Zealot ?

[fast laurel]

yes

laspistol has next to nothing recoil so you can dump both mobility and stability

[cerulean badge]

What should I try to get/change on it ?

[fast laurel]

you want Dumdum and Infernus for it for BiS

Raking Fire is fine however if its what you got

your perks are set

[cerulean badge]

Alright ! Thank, better I can do now with actual blessing, will try it soon.

[true cape]

Is it possible to get Surge blessing on blue voidstrike staff? for weeks cant get it

[quick remnant]

possible yes, likely not really

[true cape]

so i need to craft only legendary staffs to get it?

[quick remnant]

No, but I would watch Melk for such weapon, and you would have higher chances of getting it on the second blessings (Higher tiers)

[spiral lava]

Can someone explain to me why bleed and fire isn't good anymore?

[fervent relic]

They do less damage

[hasty elm]

what does deathblow and perfect strike do? Whats hit mass ?

[slim citrus]

basically lets ur weapon hit more enemies in one swing

deathblowalso known as burtal momentum is rly good on axes cause u go from being able to hit one enemy at a time up to like 5 if u swing through there heads

[rigid wasp]

Is there anything I could have done in this situation? I was thrown out of bounds

Was annoying cuz I was the last one left

[void forge]

If you're the last one alive, no. You need to DC and reconnect to get back in bounds. Or get lucky and thrown back in bounds

Unfortunately if you DC as the last one alive the mission will result in a failure

[rigid wasp]

Damn, probably won’t happen again, unless that chaos thing throws me -.-

[hard goblet]

Every enemy has a hit mass value. This is subtracted from an attack's cleave for each enemy hit. It determines how many enemies get hit with an attack.

Ignoring hit mass means their hit mass isn't subtracted from an attack's cleave value.

[knotty wyvern]

whats cleave damage distribution?

[olive moon]

This any good?

[mental sequoia]

So I was wondering do certain blessings only show up in the first or second slot or can it be any? I didn't get a blessing i wanted for my knife so I was just gonna buy a bunch and upgrade till it popped up.

[final perch]

whats the best set up to get "Don't stop me now!" penance for ogryn

[hard goblet]

The chances of getting higher tier blessings is based on the base rating of the weapon.

And anecdotally at least, the higher the rarity you are consecrating to the better the chances of a higher tier blessing.

[ancient vector]

Apologies if this has been asked before: the Shattering Impact blessing on the Plasma Cannon says "Target receives X stacks of Britleness on direct projectile hit, lasts 5 seconds"
The plasma cannon projectile cleaves through like, a million dudes. Do they all get brittleness? Or only the first one? And how high does this blessing stack in 5s ?

[hard goblet]

I've only ever gotten a tier 4 blessing when consecrating to blue twice. It's possible, but very rare.

[mental sequoia]

I'd be fine with tier 3 I'm just aiming for a specific one

[hard goblet]

Then it depends, since the blessings have some kind of weight system for the likelihood of showing up. But there's nothing players can do to influence it.

[hard goblet]

I believe every single target the shot cleaves through counts as being hit, meaning they also receive the brittleness stacks.

As for your second question, it stacks to X and that lasts for 5 seconds.

[ancient vector]

so tier IV is basically a "I debuff every enemy in this corridor to take 20% more armor piercing?"

that seems really powerful.

[hard goblet]

As I recall, brittleness is just a form of rending that other teammates can take advantage of when dealing damage to a target. This is mitigated somewhat by the fact that crushers, bulwarks, etc. larger targets with armor have higher hit mass and thus you won't cleave through as many of them.

[mental sequoia]

Well that's my question do I aim to upgrade every knife to gold for the blessing or am I fine to just roll blues?

[hard goblet]

Brittleness on the poxwalkers/groaners you are able to cleave through isn't essential as weaker enemies will die in a couple hits already before brittleness.

[ancient vector]

As far as I can tell Plasma cleaves through everything forever

[hard goblet]

With mods that spawn enemies in the grinder for you, I think crushers have a hit mass of 50? I don't recall but I do know the plasma gun is not cleaving through a line of crushers.

[mental sequoia]

Cause I'm wanting Flesh Tearer so does that only drop in the second blessing or can it drop in either?

[hard goblet]

Applying brittleness is meant to be used against the heavy targets that take more hits to bring down due to them wearing carapace.

[hard goblet]

It can drop in either slot.

[mental sequoia]

Alrighty blue spam here I come

[hard goblet]

Blessings aren't really checking for slot number. There's nothing inherently special about the first versus the second blessing slot on a weapon.

It's more about the rarity of the weapon when you consecrate, and the blessing weights which we don't know.

[ancient vector]

Allright, I ended downloading the debuff indicator mod. You are right, Brittleness is applied to every cleaved target. But it stacks additionally each shot. Max I could get was 16 brittleness while fast firing but I dont know if thats the total because crusher die before the 4th shot

[hard goblet]

Oh you were asking about the maximum number of stacks.

Sorry, I didn't realize.

Yeah it maxes out at 16.

[mental sequoia]

Well it's all I need to perfect my knife for Sly marbo so if I can just roll blues and eventually get it I'll be fine

[hard goblet]

Either way you're spending plasteel. It's all a zero sum in the end I think.

I'd try upgrading to orange too

[mental sequoia]

Well I'd like to save more in the long run. I've recently used it all on 4 in a row failed full gold upgrades on weapons. So if blue give me the chance less spent in the long run.

[ancient vector]

I guess it does stop cleaving after a while :D

[royal galleon]

Does anyone have any idea why my "Dreg Cleaner: Kill every type of Dreg" penance would be stuck at 5/7? I've ran 140+ missions, I'm pretty sure I've killed them all by now.. I've only ever played psyker if that makes any diff? anyone dealt with it before? Thx

[hasty elm]

whats the difference between elite and specialist?

[hard goblet]

If I remember correctly, specialists will have a cue associated with them. Typically an audible callout or sound effect like the pilot light of a flamer clicking, or the "Sniper!" callout when it spawns, or the Trapper saying "Hello my pretty".

Anything that does not have that callout is and elite and is something that can be present normally in the map already like ragers, bulwarks, and crushers.

[hasty elm]

can a unit be elite and specialist at the same time?

[hard goblet]

No, they're separate categories.

[hasty elm]

so its better to get elite dmg cuz specialist die fast anyways?

[hard goblet]

What difficulties have you played at?

[hard goblet]

Typically it's better to get Carapace armor perks if that's what you're debating.

[hasty elm]

there are only two carapace units

I got a good roll on specialist but I oneshot them anyway so..

[hard goblet]

The carapace armor damage bonus is +25%, larger than the elite bonus and often the things that give you the biggest trouble are the enemies wearing carapace like crushers and (currently) ragers (maniacs) due to their health increase.

But obviously this is going to depend more on the weapon in question.

If you're on PC, you can take a screenshot with Windows Key + Shift + S and paste it in here.

Easier to evaluate weapons that way.

[hasty elm]

why not both

carapace and elite

[hard goblet]

Because the maniac and flak categories provide higher damage numbers.

And are also some of the most common enemy armor types you'll encounter.

Rarely is +10% enough damage to reach a breakpoint on a weapon.

But +25% definitely is.

[royal galleon]

all of them at least once, mostly auric damnation though

my guess is its something to do with only having a single operative? I guess I should try making an alt and killing them all to see if it unsticks it..

[summer pier]

nah trash it

[solid kiln]

does the crucis MK II thunder hammer count as a power weapon for the "master your tools" penance?

it says chain and power weapons

and im worried its not considered a power weapon due to lacking the word Power in it

[still helm]

If you re-bless an item with one you've earned, can you earn it again? Even if the modification limit is reached

[chilly thistle]

Im not sure im understanding your question correctly, but there isnt a modification limit for an item regarding the total number of times you can modify it. It just locks 2 things (perks or blessings) once 2 modifications have been made. After this, you can never change those locked perks/blessings, but the crafted ones can be changed as much as you want.

Also, once you earn a blessing, it can be crafted onto a weapon any number of times

[still helm]

Ohhh. Makes a lot more sense, thanks :p

[ancient vector]

what's better: Maniac and Flak, Carapace and Flak, or Maniac and Carapace?

if I'm going for only damage perks instead of the crit one

[hard goblet]

Depends on the weapon in question.

[ancient vector]

yeah I figured as I asked it

I guess for Plasma it'd be Maniac and Carapace?

since Flak gets killed fairly fast

[hard goblet]

I'm not actually sure if maniac makes a difference on plasma or not. How close are you to one shotting mutants/ragers/flamers?

[ancient vector]

i ll take a looksy

nowhere close

Im close to two shotting the berserkers

and close to three shotting the mutant

so I guess I really need Maniac

but I also really need a less shitty damage roll on my plasma gun :(

[hard goblet]

Yeah if it's bad that may be something you need to account for too.

[ancient vector]

very bad, but that thermal res :(

[hard goblet]

Oh wow, that's really not a good gun.

Your stopping power is below 60% too.

[ancient vector]

yep. Double downer.

[hard goblet]

Yeah I would be looking to roll for a new plasma gun with better base stats at that point.

[ancient vector]

been trying all day :D

[hard goblet]

I don't remember offhand what the stat breakpoints are for plasma gun. But I know #veteran-class knows them.

[ancient vector]

I think the dump stat is charge rate

so Im looking for something with good everything except charge rate

and ammo can stay at, like, whatever above 60

[hard goblet]

Yes. Though stopping power is by far one of your most important stats.

With numbers that low, you'd likely be able to get a better one in maybe 100-200k dockets spent at Brunt's.

[ancient vector]

you'd think so wouldnt you :D

[lofty vigil]

So are curios for health is 20% for max right? and is toughness 16% or is the build website right? And they go to 25% Health, 20% Toughness.

the highest i've seen on health is 21% and that was before patch. And i think i may have seen 17% toughness during beta.

[hard goblet]

The actual max is 21% for health, 3 for stamina, and 17% for toughness.

The build website hasn't been updated.

[dapper patio]

I'm getting the feeling that playing strictly support in this game is not viable. I know to do damage when I can and all, but I find more enjoyment buffing people and helping them succeed rather than killing things myself.

Is there a class that supports better than others?

I've played smite/barrier Psyker primarily, but people tend not to like killing the things that are shocked.

Apologies for shoving myself in here.

[hard goblet]

Typically in the "tide" games especially in Darktide it's more of a "each class has a niche they excel in which involves them being good at killing a particular category of enemy/allowing room for or setting up the space for other classes to kill what they're good at killing more efficiently". Psykers can be by far the most support oriented of all the classes in the game, particularly in terms of creating breathing room and controlling space.

I've had games with shield wall psykers that absolutely trivialized pox hunting grounds and mutant maelstroms.

But I've had far more games with ineffectual shield wall/dome psykers that never really timed them or placed them properly for effective use.

[dapper patio]

(reading)

[hard goblet]

In games where psykers do know what they're doing with those, as an executioner's stance veteran it's like a dream. No one ever worries about mutants or dogs as there's always a wall ready to intercept the incoming wave. Gunners and shooters can be safely removed with no pressure applied to me as I draw their fire allowing zealots/ogryns to flank them cleanly.

Smite psykers have the easiest time controlling hordes, dogs, mutants, etc.

There's a bit of a learning curve as I think people haven't realized yet that it's more efficient for them to engage the zapped targets.

[dapper patio]

Can verify

[hard goblet]

There's also smite pskyers that think that constantly zapping poxwalkers is helpful when the squad is already safely holding a nice choke to funnel them through.

Pskyers who understand when and how to use smite are leagues apart from those that just stand with their backs to a wall, never pull out their melee, and constantly just zap regardless of the situation.

[dapper patio]

Folks don't know either that you can shove with a zap too, so rather than holding it down, hit them with a zap and then deactivate on the pox dude

[hard goblet]

Often immobilizing targets can be counterproductive and even more dangerous if you'd be baiting your teammates to leave a good position to melee stunned enemies out in the open.

[dapper patio]

Duly noted.
So smite and shield combat are more about situational positioning than overall usage

[hard goblet]

Caveats of course for teammate skill. If they show they cannot handle mixed bruisers and poxwalkers, then yes they may want help from smite.

But yeah, mindlessly spamming them is at best an annoyance and at worst baiting your team.

The shields are very much about timing and situational awareness. You want to place a good dome? Figure out where your ranged squad members are. Figure out where the enemy's main gun line is. Place the dome to give them breathing room. Or place the dome to force gunners to have to reposition outside of it, preemptively cut off the enemy's line of sight.

Listen for sniper callouts, figure out where they are and use shields as insurance for crossing sightlines.

[dapper patio]

Barriers block sniper shots?

If so, is that the dome or wall that's able to do that?

[hard goblet]

Not sure if it's a specific talent, but they have for me as Veteran anyway.

[dapper patio]

Noted

[hard goblet]

The sniper wasn't firing, so the shield was treated as impenetrable.

Shields can also force flamers to move closer than they normally would before they start flaming.

They do not prevent bomber grenade flames from spreading on the ground though.

[dapper patio]

So enemies do react to barriers being placed. I didn't know that

[hard goblet]

Mutants can collide with a barrier and be stopped by it.

It forces them to restart their charging animation.

Dogs can be stopped by the shield wall as well.

Hunting grounds were a breeze with that psyker.

[dapper patio]

so, wall is stronger, but it takes more than one brain cell to pull off

[hard goblet]

Out of the two, I've seen the wall have greater impact.

But that may also be because more less skilled psykers gravitate towards the dome instead.

So I don't always get psykers who are good at using the dome.

[dapper patio]

im still used to priest gameplay in WoW, so when i saw the dome, I immediately thought two fold damage mitigation. but if the wall has damage mitigation and crowd control, i can see how that might be better overall

we're not coming across flying mobs (yet). I know those will arrive a couple years from now, but i dont think ill have to worry about those lol

thank you tons for the advice. i sincerely appreciate it

[nimble cliff]

Is there any way I can change grenades from down d-pad to left bumper

[cosmic wadi]

Why have I never seen toughness curios more than +16%?

[woeful root]

17% is the highest currently, and iirc they only exist at either 75/76 base rating and higher

[cosmic wadi]

Oh, what about health? The highest I've seen is +20%

[hard goblet]

Because the highest tier blessings on curios are rare.

21%

17% Toughness. +3 Stamina. 21% Health.

[cosmic wadi]

I've seen quite a bit of +3 stamina though

[hard goblet]

I do have more of those than the others. There's likely a weighting system to them.

[orchid quail]

are there only 2 "unyielding" enemies in the game? (that being the bulwark and the reaper) or are there other enemies that are classified differently but have unyielding "parts"?

[quick remnant]

The monsters

[orchid quail]

asking cuz i'm wondering why ppl take damage perks against unyielding enemies

[orchid quail]

what do you mean?

are bosses considered unyielding?

[quick remnant]

Chaos Spawns, BoN, Plague Ogryn are all Unyielding

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[orchid quail]

i see...

[shell nest]

do you get more mats in auric quickplay than in regular quickpaly on damnation?

[fervent ridge]

No

auric and maelstrom gives the same rewards as damnation, realistically usually 200-300 less

because you will either get wiped

or not have time to split up and go find plasteel in all the random corners

Nobody plays auric for mats, only for the challenge

[shell nest]

so it really is just for challenge?

[fervent ridge]

yea, you are isolated for 5 seconds and you'll probably die

it's very hostile for resource farming

standard damnation is where it's at

[shell nest]

damn... hi intensity shock trooper gauntlets I found more fun than the usual normal dam runs

[fervent ridge]

yes it's more fun for sure

[shell nest]

im at the point where im trying to find some fun in the game. sadge

[fervent ridge]

Then auric is where it's at

but mats will not be the group priority; just survival

[shell nest]

auric with randoms gonna give me migraine

btw whats the fastest mission type?

Raid, Strike, Disruption, Assasination?

if I plan to farm mats, i think it would be ideal on shorter maps and mission type

[icy nexus]

I think assassinations are shortest

[shell nest]

ohh okay gotcha. what would be the second to that?

[icy nexus]

No idea haha. Maybe I'll start writing down data now, I'm curious too

[fervent ridge]

magistrati oubliette is by far the fastest map

can clear it in 15 minutes in damnation and 10 minutes at lower difficulties

hab dreyko might be close if you're onpoint with your scan game

[shell nest]

ohhh magstrati? okay. those names are hard to remember hhaah

[fervent ridge]

the assassination map yes

[cerulean badge]

Got this bad boy, what should I change as blessing ?

[fervent ridge]

thunderous to Thrust IV

Specialist to 25 maniac or 25 carapace

whichever enemy type it is you have more issues with

mutants and dreg ragers for the former

crusher and maulers for the latter

after those changes you'll have a near-perfect crucis

[cerulean badge]

Thx , I got Thrust IV recently ! I will try this now 😄

[fervent ridge]

The only thing keeping your hammer from being an absolute godroll is the penetration; if defence was swapped with pen here it'll be so perfect

[vernal plaza]

I dont think current th needs maniac
You already kill mutant with charge heavy, not even thrust

[vernal plaza]

^, if youre willing to test it without maniac

[fervent ridge]

mutant is not the main threat

dreg ragers are the biggest melee threat at the moment in auric in my opinion

their damage, attack speed, mass, stagger value and HP was all increased

and then also their spawn weight

[vernal plaza]

Hmm fair enuff, havent checked their bp as i just gun them down

[fervent ridge]

mutant is already dealt with when you have Thrust 4

[vernal plaza]

Not even thrust required atm

[fervent ridge]

i've been getting these freakishly 6-20 stacks of rager spawns that I've never seen before and they basically down everyone non-ogryn in a couple hits it's ended a couple of my runs recently

[summer forum]

Are you able to re-bind or choose a different button layout on controllers? Ideally one that could let me put jump/dodge on the bumpers?

[wanton canopy]

before doing bug report someone can confirm if dodge-slide used 2 dash before patch 13-14 ? because it do now

[left heron]

Just hit level 30 with my first character and started work on her beloved Eviscerator and wondered what advise you would give to upgrade this. The Blessings seem a good combo, but should I go all in and boost crit's more with level 4 perks or boost a damage type? WHat is the most useful damage boost, IE versus Flak / Carapace / specialists / unarmoured etc???

[fervent ridge]

Toss it, this is bad

the ideal combination on Evis is Flak + Maniac and Rampage + Bloodletter / Savage Sweep

[left heron]

why is it 'bad'?

I would like to learn, not just do the meta 🙂

[hasty elm]

whats the penances bug?

[hasty elm]

same question, why is it bad

[fervent ridge]

The most common armor type in the game is Flak

The most threatening enemies in the game are usually specialists or melee elites namely the Trapper, the Flamer, the Mutant and the Dreg Rager which are Maniac

Higher difficulties introduce a modifier called Shock Troops where the spawn weight of maniacs are cranked up 4 or 5 times

Accounting for these two factors, Flak + Maniac are the best perks on 90% of all weapons in the game

Because with this combination you cover the largest possible base of threats

Since obviously you want your weapon to be good versus more enemies than less enemies

There are a couple of exceptions such as the Thunderhammer, bolter, flamer and plasma gun that prefer Unyielding 25 as one of the perks instead

But other than a single digit number of gear, 50+ weapons want Flak and Maniac

Groaner poxwalker only cover 2 enemy types and specialists also only a small handful, which is what makes your Evis bad

[glad trout]

Question: is your accuracy stat also linked to melee swings and grenades?

[void forge]

Negatory

It used to affect zealot knife throws but that was a bug and it's fixed now

[left heron]

This is what i asked, thanks. I thought my intention to change them was clear so didn't get what 'it's bad' was referring to 🙂

[glad trout]

Gotcha, thank

[hasty elm]

is the plasteel gathered for everyone?

[void forge]

Yes

[hasty elm]

the question is, why do you use these blessings and not the other ones?

[fervent ridge]

Rampage gives power which is damage + stagger + cleave

savage sweep gives massive cleave

Every other Evis blessings either only give one of the components above at lesser values or a stat that is not desired

so in terms of strength, rampage + savage sweep is just the best

Versus something like Impact, which will knock opponents over more

But as a player would you rather knock the enemy over or straightup kill them

[hasty elm]

how is power=cleave?

[fervent ridge]

Most players have decided killing is better than knocking over which is what makes those two blessings the best

power is damage, stagger and cleave

Power blessings are the strongest blessings in the game in general and any weapon with access to a power blessing will usually want it as their BiS blessing

thunderhammer wants Thrust (power), forcesword wants slaughterer (power), tactical axe wants headtaker (power), both bolter and shredder wants pinning fire (power), flamer wants blaze away (power)

There's a pattern there you can recognize

[hasty elm]

so even when your weapon can hit only 1 enemy then having more power will add cleave to that weapon?

[fervent ridge]

it will add damage, stagger and cleave to the weapon

you will hit harder, kill more, and knock away further the stuff you don't kill

[hasty elm]

do these evis blessing work on the initial swing?

or only after

[fervent ridge]

no, because you need to hit to activate the blessing to begin with

the only power blessing in the game that is hitless is Thrust

which is tied to charging time

[hasty elm]

is it possible to trigger it using only light attacks with evi?

[fervent ridge]

that is the way most people use to trigger it

lights to get 5 stacks

then do a heavy at 5 stacks and it goes through like 15 dudes

[hasty elm]

hmm

[hasty elm]

is the additional xp/gold reward already calculated in on the mission department screen when a mission has additional affixes?

[fossil vine]

Is the resupply allies penance broken for anyone else?

[fast laurel]

on Vet? Yeah its bugged, among other penances.

[fossil vine]

Fair enough

[glad trout]

Is the accuracy penance bugged at the moment or am I having a skill issue?

[void forge]

Skill issue

[glad trout]

Noted lmao

[hasty elm]

how to fix error code 3013

or 3001

[wooden flame]

how does 3rd and 4th shot in salvo work?
From the icon it looks like its 2nd and 3rd shot and if i charge too long it wont work

[fossil root]

deadeye penance is stuck at 4 out of 5 and ive killed hundreds of highlighted enemies and its still not fully unlocked

[void forge]

You have to attack any highlighted weak spot 5x in a row without missing

[hard goblet]

The game measures a salvo from when a gun's recoil/reticle bloom begins to when it fully resets. That is 1 salvo.

[celest wolf]

Should I keep my charge or get the power of Christ compels you

[void forge]

I prefer charge, especially with the stagger nerf

[quick remnant]

Depend on what you play like

[dusty vector]

does anyone know what happened to the devils claw mk 4 i cant find it in brunts armory

[quick remnant]

Saw your post

[dusty vector]

my post?

[quick remnant]

on the forum

[dusty vector]

i havent made one

musta been someone else

[quick remnant]

Oh then someone has the same problem

[naive elbow]

could someone help me with a no damage penance?

[quick remnant]

Is it on Psyker too ?

[dusty vector]

im on veteran i havent checked if its the same for other classes

[quick remnant]

Ah the post was on Psyker, could you do a screenshot of Brunt ? That way I'll add it to the post

[raven lake]

others have been mentioning it as well, it is not confirmed but we believe it was removed from the shop

no idea for how long or for what reason

[dusty vector]

oh alright thanks for lettin me know

[prisma canopy]

Does anyone know what these symbols below missions are for?

[hard goblet]

Highest level of difficulty you completed for that mission on your account.

[prisma canopy]

Ah okay thanks!

I assume the one with the 3 skulls is damnation?

[hard goblet]

The skulls are decorative. It's the number of chevrons that count difficulty as I recall.

Can't remember if Damnation is 4 chevrons and 1 skull above them.

[prisma canopy]

Can i still complete the redacted penances?

[quick remnant]

yes

[young escarp]

Can someone drop video settings board? Like which settings gives more FPS?

[whole geode]

@tardy patio mic broken should fix soon

[lost ferry]

So that last hotfix broke all my mods. Tried updating them, but nothing seems to have been fixed. It may just be that I'm new to using Vortex, but do I just have to wait until the collection or the mods update?

[quick remnant]

have you ran the bat file again ?

[lost ferry]

No, let me try that and get back to you

Hmm, nope, still no mods running. Unless... wait, shit, do I have to launch through Vortex to make it work?

Oh ffs, my load order completely blanked itself

RIGHT, now that that's done, seems to work

[glossy sapphire]

for a few days, this number has not changed. im pretty sure ive been doing data interrogation missions, including scanning with auspex. am i missing something here?

[hard goblet]

I believe those track you fixing the data interrogators.

[glossy sapphire]

oh

that makes sense

[blissful python]

Is this worth dropping 2500 melk bucks for?

[analog gale]

Has anyone had issue with getting voice chat to work? I'm on PC

[pulsar gust]

For riposte blessing
Do I need to dodge an actual attack or spamming dodge works too?

[hasty elm]

how do I know which mission types I have done for the penances?

like "complete each mission type"

[rigid wasp]

if u surrender to earn a blessing, is it shared to every weapon that uses that blessing or just that one kind of weapon?

[hard goblet]

Blessings are weapon family specific. I.E All Kantrael lasguns can be reblessed with Headhunter tier 4 if you earn it from a Kantrael MG XII.

[hard goblet]

The only way you would know is by cross referencing penances and checking the chevron icons under a mission on the board that tell you the highest difficulty you've completed that mission on for that account.

And that method isn't foolproof sadly.

[hard goblet]

An attack that would've dealt damage has to be avoided.

[hard goblet]

The stat bars are in god roll territory. The flak perk is perfect. Blessings would ideally be Surgical and Onslaught at tier 4.

It's not perfect. It's also a mk1, so take that as you will if you like that variant.

If you have nothing else, it's a better than average intermediary.

[pulsar gust]

Dammit
I'm not picking that than
Btw how is it on zealot since there are alot of talents that count as dodge and all

[blissful python]

I've never given helbore an honest try since I've been enjoying IAGs

might take it for a spin since I used to enjoy bolter and revolver way back

[hard goblet]

I don't play zealot so I can’t help you there, sorry.

[hard goblet]

Just know that the mk3 has the highest base damage and slowest charge rate. The mk2 has the lowest base damage and fastest charge rate. The mk1 is in-between.

[pulsar gust]

[hasty elm]

can you explain that again?

[hard goblet]

You'd look at these and your penances that tell you which missions you've completed. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1043910914027561000/1169377518650929152/image.png?ex=65552eae&is=6542b9ae&hm=cb71058608b4c5e9c24f117d52d58a282c7b493731e2d23b5fb37175f65729e9&

There's no direct way to check because Fatshark doesn't consider it important enough to implement a feature or menu for it.

[hasty elm]

so it tells me on which lvl max I completed the mission, but not mission type right?

[hard goblet]

By mission type what do you mean exactly?

Like, a Disruption vs a Raid mission?

[hasty elm]

yes

[hasty elm]

I got a mission showing on tier3 but I did a raid on tier5 already so I guess its just that particular mission?

[hard goblet]

Yes, the chevrons are mission specific.

And account wide.

[paper flint]

Chainaxe?

[white jungle]

anyone have an issue on gamepass / xbox where darktide is failing to install / downloads extremely slow and continues to uninstall itself. got a friend who has tried troubleshooting a ton of ways but after this new hotfix patch she started having this issue with darktide specifically on gamepass.

[hushed pier]

Got this on zealot. Any input on what second perk should be?

[fast laurel]

Maniac

[hard goblet]

Maniacs.

[hushed pier]

ty

[olive oracle]

I've been playing malice for a while now, any tips for how I should prepare for heresy/damnation, because I'd like to move up in difficulty and earn more rewards

[fervent ridge]

stay in coherency and focus specialists first

[rough mason]

does bleed count towards melee kills for melk missions

[scenic field]

There's a lot I could say, but I'll try to keep it brief. I definitely believe that the difficulty jump from malice to heresy is the biggest increase. You should know your class pretty well. From my experience, you want to become self-sufficient. Because the more self-sufficient you are, the more confident you will be. Also, don't panic, that can be a big one. Usually, the enemies that debilitate my team the most, or gets them wiped, are Gunners, Snipers, Trappers, and Bursters. So I am usually on high alert for those enemies and try to remove them first.

What I did was apparently a bit much, but it worked for me. I got the creature spawner mod and learned how to fight the different enemies and what attack patterns they had.

[cerulean badge]

Would you change something for a Veteran Support build ?

[fervent ridge]

It looks perfect the way it is

maybe maniac to flak, but both are just as good, so comes down to personal preference

[raven latch]

Can anyone clerify for me which enemies count as maniacs?