beta-season-test-chat

[somber oyster]

Ohhh environmental wise 100% agreed, I actually left some feedback yesterday about bringing maybe the flying boats back too (and the little swings in the air).

My tinfoil hat theory is that the sand we see at the entrance (behind the gate) is to connect the two “rivers” so maaaaaybeeee

[olive forum]

Great idea!

[bleak mural]

I hope the flying boats and air swings don't come back myself, because then aviary would feel more like a big attraction than a home village to me

[olive forum]

That way the aviary will become emptier

[orchid knot]

I'm a bit disheartened at the cap for furniture, I know it's probably so things run more smoothly, but creating my current space last night felt more difficult than the first space I made because the limit was lowered

[bleak mural]

well, we'll surely have more space in our actual home :0 that's just a little spot so I don't mind the cap there, but it's true that some creations aren't possible there now

[bleak mural]

I think the aviary is already full of life personally! not to mention we've yet to see the café in its full capacity, our actual homes, the two areas covered in the clouds on the side of the village, what used to be the Revival closet room, the new big sand area around the spawn platform... and probably more in the future!

In other news, I really hope we get something like the daily litter pickup in aviary on a bigger scale, cause I'd love to feel like I'm doing something to upkeep the village everyday in some way

[orchid knot]

no please I don't want litter duty

[bleak mural]

it's either social services or rent bubba, your choice

[orchid knot]

But I already helped rebuild Aviary, why can't I get complimentary housing for being a founder

[bleak mural]

because your "complimentary housing" seems to be as big as the village itself

[olive forum]

The current aviary is:
Small
Not many interactions
I hardly enter the houses, only the event house

I imagine that the lack of interaction with the place has made the aviary less desirable and the players are still in the old Home.
The place lacks interaction, something to do and not just serve as an empty lobby.
Even the Season of Assembly location has interactions and the aviary doesn't.

[rich silo]

eh it's not that small compared to homespace
it's gonna expand with time so let it cook

[somber oyster]

It’s actually all valid though, the game and the experience it brings is different for everyone. While I personally think the Aviary is engaging, I can understand why others may prefer different looks / features / designs

[rich silo]

I look at aviary as more of [giving players more core features of sky they've been asking for for years] so it's better to have something compact and functional vs hugely big and does nothing

[vale temple]

I was gonna say "aviary small? Always feels empty like a ghost town in there" I super wish they'd increase amount of graykids that could be in there (no festival tech). Original home always feels so lively because it's small so the server size feels fine. If it's home I'd like to bump into people more. If I want to be alone I go to hidden forest and sit under a tree or something.

[odd gust]

ngl, the only reason I set my Home to Aviary in live is purely b/c of the shops that let you try on things to see if you'll like them any or not..

It feels too big in a sense, even w/ all the spirits.. I 100% understand the skids who say it feels empty and stick to og Home

[rich silo]

Tbh I stick to home because everything is compact and also perma night is a godsend XD

• Closet lighting is good for outfit reqs

Aviary lighting is waaaayyyy too dark for getting any nice pictures going

[odd gust]

I honestly may switch back to Home. the Aviary is pretty, yes but..

way too big for smth w/ hardly any skids in it. That and you have to run across the map after talking to a TS JUST to put smth on.. AND to the gates when you first log on if you have Aviary as your home

at least w/ Home, closets are direcly next to the TS and so are the gates for easy access.

[rich silo]

Also I close and open the game a lot and iirc if your return is set to aviary you spawn at- yep

That's why homespace is way more efficient you just get straight to what you need

Then when I decide to run into aviary it's a pleasant surprise when it's my favourite lighting BECAUSE IT ONLY LASTS 5 MINUTES

[odd gust]

I can understand why the shops are part of Aviary, as it's smth new for the newer skids and can give a reason to transition

but gosh, I wish we had smth a bit similar in Home

speaking of the lightning, the sunset in Aviary whiplashes me half the time b/c it's so sudden--

[rich silo]

I think it's fine
To me aviary is just home dlc lol
It's also really refreshing to me after many years of sky because it's such a [meta] area that goes into things regular sky seasons cannot

[haughty plume]

I feel like Aviary needs more light creatures. Maybe a manta flies overhead sometimes or something. That would help it to feel less empty

[tulip veldt]

didnt we have light creatures very early on when we had the swings?

[rich silo]

Yeah then people's feedback was it was too much BOOM BAM POW for quest 3

[chrome coyote]

aside from the new spot, have they actually added anything for the season yet ?

nevermind i just read up

[limber nacelle]

Not to our knowledge, not yet at least. If you're talking about cosmetics.

[chrome coyote]

ah okay, thank you

[covert gulch]

Sure hope that all the furniture doesn’t cost hearts currency in future updates. That’s a rare commodity in Beta 😳

[haughty plume]

Hearts are hard to come by in live too not making it easy on shy players

[vale temple]

Shy players asking for a heart so they can buy a bed in aviary store and stop sleeping on the stone floor of their house:

(They don't it's too scary)

[tiny lintel]

Well it's been a long time since smthing uses heart currency , ascended/normal candles and tickets were way too aubused

[unkempt flower]

As a general reply to this, this isn’t meant to be combative, however, hearts would be so much worse for things like this, mainly because it is NOT a currency you could just buy like IAP, I feel if they keep it as only using hearts as currency to get the items, the lack luster barebones way of begging for hearts is going to perpetuate and get worse. If, with this update, they made it easier for players to get hearts in a more realistic and obtainable fashion, that’d make my opinion move on it. As it is, it takes weeks, months, for new players to get enough hearts for next to anything at all. especially from the constellation at home, or, from friends. A reminder that TGC directly discourages their user base against “heart trading”, so… It’s ultimately just telling users that using hearts is a novelty since there’s no other way to obtain hearts.

[orchid knot]

I'm guessing because they've changed how shared creation hearts work, the lack of hearts won't be as big of an issue going forward - I've surprisingly received a lot of hearts from the workshop space alone. I know others have had the same experience too, I can't say it's been the same for everyone, but since that change at least it gives another way to gather hearts both from friends and strangers in game. I don't think having the nesting furniture cost hearts will be as big a thorn in our sides as we anticipate, but we're also used to hearts being difficult to collect so it's natural to be overwhelmed by items costing hearts because of how much time we've initially spent collecting them prior to the share creation heart changes, etc.

[tiny lintel]

It's like an indirect way of tgc saying: "Go do more shared space"

[orchid knot]

I think it's like, they want hearts to still be a meaningful gift in some way so being able to gift them for shared creations we enjoy it feels like a purposeful interaction as opposed to just gathering hearts like any other currencies in the game.

As for props and items costing hearts, I've noticed it doesn't often happen outside of base game items and it's more for items and emotes that have a lot of purpose and way of enhancing our gameplay rather than just for something of cosmetic value.

I think the whole nesting season is about just that, enhancing our experience in Sky with something that has been a very heavily requested theme for so long - giving us homes.

I also think it's not necessarily about buying everything out at once but investing in the items we really want and creating our own spaces that suit us best. We don't have to buy every single furniture from the store, we can collect hearts and work towards specific things we enjoy the most. I'd assume everything will be permanent too, there's been no mention of limited items so we have time to save heart gifts from friends and such.

[limber nacelle]

Me about to dip half my hearts on random pieces of furniture:

[tardy ruin]

Doot! I think? I just got a IOS notice

[limber nacelle]

Huh? Maybe check it out first?

[tardy ruin]

Build 251199

[limber nacelle]

Yeah it just might be new then cause I got a different one on Android.

[limber nacelle]

It looks like there's a prop in the Carpenter's spirit tree now. Other than that everything else is still WIP.

[bleak mural]

There's 12 new wooden furniture!!

And it also seems like they cut out 5 stone furniture if I'm not wrong, I'm counting 60 total new furniture instead of 65 with the new wood ones!

[frail merlin]

yeah looks like its a bed!

[past robin]

Awww my carpet floor was yanked (I didn’t move it last update) But I can’t click/drag any of my props to remove them or rearrange. Anyone else? Already sent to feedback, just in case.

[tulip veldt]

Woo more plants!

[bleak mural]

Ohhh, the small wall light and the cup and pan holders are gone!

[tulip veldt]

Is it bad I don’t want to take down the hamster run cuz no one’s seen it yet cuz the refresh button is still missing?

[bleak mural]

And also the plain wall board and old towel racket are gone!

[blissful grove]

What the....🤮 Some items from my space went away. They decreased the limit. Can't put them again 😪

[rough lion]

these new items look so nice, they seem to address all the issues people had with the stone furniture!!

[odd gust]

Oh my god, the wooden furniture, I'M IN LOOOOVE

[civic sapphire]

#beta-screenshots-videos message

Remebrance 2.0? Naw bro its Assembly 3.0

[golden ore]

Naw it's Remembrance 2.0 + days of style: interior edition.

[bleak mural]

I'm really loving the season so far :D

[civic sapphire]

Pls I hope later in the season we get our own personal space.

[dusk willow]

I'm assuming that the wooden items are what we'll be getting from the seasonal spirits for Nesting (hopefully alongside some cosmetics and emotes too )

I'm kind of into the idea of having a few seasonal furniture items added for future seasons. Imagine for AURORA we had little fan posters added, or for Moments we would have had little crystal items added. Little mementos to add to our homes to showcase seasons we'll be a part of

[rich silo]

it's been a long time since there's been so many props on seasonal spirits

omg nasty the posters as carpets fr step all over your fav's face (or put on the bed if it lets us and it can be a duvet)

[rough lion]

i definitely hope that new housing furniture items will be gradually introduced in other seasons and days of events after nesting as well

[dusk willow]

Performance posters on the wall next to your bed 😩 I was there!!!

[bleak mural]

I'm gonna be real, I don't think we're getting any emotes nor cosmetics outside of ults

[rich silo]

it reminds me of when TS props were first being a thing and all they did was use existing items in sky to add to old TS trees
would love to see more new season specific new props as well yeee

like imagine we go all animal crossing and can customise the bed to have seasonal inspired colouration like postman's cape design

[civic sapphire]

I guess I can be ok with that for just one season, I know there will be a tidal wave of dissappointed people. Maybe the cosmetics are the friends we made along after all.

[royal oyster]

I want to play beta on my iphone

[shell fossil]

There will be UGs, but the big focus for this season is the housing feature, so that and all the furniture items will be the main thing this season, similar to how Revival focused on building Aviary!

[rich silo]

imagine if one of the UGs was a welcome doormat

[civic sapphire]

Ultimate gift: T H E H O U S E

[olive forum]

,A good change
Forest themes are something that Sky is very fond of and that suits the premise of the game
Even more so as the furniture was too "grey"

[royal oyster]

I’m a beta tester from a long time but I’m on $200 samsung android, its scary how experience it on it, I have Iphone 14 pro max as main phone but beta play beta, Tired of waiting

[rich silo]

NO WAIT
THE UG HAS TO BE A DOORBELL
RING IT BEFORE ENTERING

[dusk willow]

🥺 Limited event-related furniture items you can buy from the furniture shop... cauldrons around halloween, christmas trees around christmas

[civic sapphire]

Sago I am sure the camping event happening in Live right now are preparing players for the Nesting riiiight???

[rich silo]

I want a replica of the cackling crab mega cauldron at the exact same size please and thank you

[shell fossil]

I can't really go into all the things we're brainstorming, so... WAFOs, anyone?
🧇

[civic sapphire]

Actually Im starving, I need wafo. 🧇🧇🧇

[shell fossil]

My personal crusade is a replica of river worm fren, but we have the 0.25.0 builds to get through first

[rich silo]

I still like the implication that aviary is the closest to modern day time because otherwise that wooden furniture would not be a thing I swear

[limber nacelle]

I just hope we're getting clothing too. I'm not too fond of just props since I never use them. I just hope this season gives me a reason to use them and it's looking like it but I'm not sure about things right now.

[past robin]

I would also like a replica of grumpy river worm!

[civic sapphire]

Me having more clothes in Sky than real life 🗿

[rich silo]

replica grumpy worm would be like a venus fly trap where unsuspecting players walk across it in the realms then suddenly get tossed around like a chew toy

[jade jetty]

put it in prairie to catch unsuspecting moths

[limber nacelle]

I just find myself using clothing more than props. But relatable.

[past robin]

Feisty cat but bigger 😂

[untold junco]

I don’t use props either but i like collecting them

[rich silo]

but why haven't we seen krill plushie in sky yet though
how could grumpy worm get plushie rights before the og

[civic sapphire]

Ebi the Krill representation needed

[lavish matrix]

Because. Friend shaped

[spiral lodge]

Will there be more seasonal props than seasonal cosmetics?

[untold junco]

Or a moth plushie

[jade jetty]

what if we get a whole real krill

[rich silo]

if we get a whole real krill can we also get a whole real king tuna I want to place the absolute unit everywhere

[civic sapphire]

WE MAKING OUR DREAM HOME WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[spiral lodge]

perfect season to introduce a bird plushie 👹👹

[untold junco]

Or reintroducing elder bird

[civic sapphire]

All I need is a Sky art gallery inside the game, like a little museum in the office.

[rich silo]

WAIT
CAN WE GET THE FRIGGIN AXE AND HAMMERS IN YETI'S CAVE
CAN MY WISH FINALLY BE FULFILLED AND WE GET THE WEAPONS IN WASTELAND

[shell fossil]

If I don't have a doorbell, maybe in my apartnest I'll put a shared memory recording of me playing the Family Mart konbini jingle

[lavish matrix]

Apartnest

[rich silo]

but sago only you can see and hear it, no one else can hear you enter but you

[shell fossil]

[rich silo]

I just had an epiphany while writing my feedback

what if we could have little mini models of sky structures you know how like when you go to tourist sites they have mini models of like the eiffel tower or coliseum, that but iconic sky structures like a mini diorama

like imagine if we could have a downsized version of the gondola towers they can double as street lamps!!!!

[waxen oyster]

Do the wee woo with the flute

[orchid knot]

I knew that revival spinny would become key spinny 🧠

[weak meadow]

ah we gonna have another category just for furniture right? im sooo tired of the forever red dot in the back prop category

[rich silo]

I think my nesting shared space ended the share timer cuz it's unpublished...time to make a new masterpiece

[orchid knot]

shakes prop wardrobe WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME? STOP BLINKING AT ME

[rigid kayak]

Now that we'll be able to have kitchens... we're one step closer to baking in sky

[high atlas]

Cooking season!!

[rigid kayak]

I will bake for my friends one day and make the ultimate cake

[orchid knot]

okay who ate my sink and cups from my shared space

AND MY MANTA AND BLANKET TOO

[covert osprey]

Still no cosmetics.. 😭?

[untold jacinth]

So next season, any cosmetics or emotes? NVM-

[rich silo]

the new props look like they're from Grounded the acorn shell furniture items XD

[olive forum]

I hope it's not on the same level as the UG from the Season of moments

[rich silo]

@atomic spade from my understanding, the heart cost items in the workshop will be permanently available after the season is over, and the wooden ones will belong to TS and come back in future

[open sparrow]

I would love if the ultimate gifts were furnishings It would be very fitting

[orchid knot]

What if ultimate item is a dye kit and we can change the colour of our furnishings LEMME HAVE PURPLE PILLOWS

[lavish matrix]

OURPLE PILLOWS or plants

[atomic spade]

Ahhh~ I think it would be nice to have them come back for new moths someday I'm happy to have a lot of furniture! btw There's no cosmetics at all, so I'm seeing some sad reactions 😂

[orchid knot]

Also I know this is an event item, but nature box has a green blanket folded up outside of it - give it here tgc I want to have all the blankets in all the colours in my nest

[lavish matrix]

Probably there'll be some, maybe just fewer since there's still the ultimate gift items awaiting to be added

[echo mauve]

I actually hope smth as usefull as a dying kit becomes a UG all UG's have alternatives or dont have an important function so its not as bad missing out on them but smth as usefull as a dying kit would be....horrifying

[open sparrow]

I would feel very sad for new players if they weren't able to recolor their furniture because they missed out on an ult

[covert bison]

No I don’t think they should make dyes an ult share the dyes with the other players too maybe last quest can open a dye or paint room.
Also the new items are so nice I love the paintings

[orchid knot]

Come to my house I'll dye all your furniture for you if you missed the season, but it will be all purple

[rich silo]

making dyes UG would go against the entire principle of sky of making things not pay to win (for the most part)
like it would be a detriment to the entire playerbase lmao

[open sparrow]

I think that having the stone furnishings available on a shop rotation after the season is a fantastic idea, kudos to whoever decided that! Many games also implement something similar

[orchid knot]

it was a just joke though cause it's unlikely we'll ever get a customisation feature like that

[rich silo]

I do like that the wooden items are seasonal based cuz it gives it more of like
prestige™️
ALSO THEY'RE ORANGE, ONE OF MY FAVOURITE COLOURS

[echo mauve]

Im so hyped for decorating my own living space aughh i hope we get BOOKSHELVES

[haughty plume]

I feel like the wooden items shouldn’t be orange, or should at least be a different shade, so there’s more contrast

[echo mauve]

I would have loved to see green accent colors (i like green) but i also love the joyeus colors of the current colors to!

[urban coral]

I’m confused by the stuff that’s for sale as hearts. It’s the same concrete looking stuff that shows up in the shared space in the shop? It’s permanent items? Or spells? But they don’t show in your closet. Then where do you “use” them? Do they show up as available in your other shared spaces?

[orchid knot]

They're available in other shared space shrines, I gotta still check actual portable spaces brb

[urban coral]

These are all like props but not props. Just shared space props. Usless outside? Cause in the shop a bench and a rug show in the normal prop menu

[orchid knot]

Yes they also appear in shared space spells automatically so I'm guessing either they won't be added as props in wardrobe because why do we need to plop a bath down in the middle of a candle run OR they just haven't been added there yet

[urban coral]

Wonder if they gonna move the other useless stuff like the bookcase and big tent to be just share space props

[orchid knot]

bored players in social areas when they can't bookshelf people at random:

[urban coral]

Anybody buy any of the stuff from the invisible spirits? Are we good? I got 250 candle burning a hole in my pockets

Are the only things in the trees these wood props?

[hearty wigeon]

who else HYPED for the upcoming season quest in 10 days
i am beyond obsessed

[orchid knot]

so are stone props available permanently because stone is easier to source than wood in sky or?

[spiral lodge]

Whaaattt iffff

We get a mannequin where we can store outfits I’m too lazy to switch back to my main outfit every now and then

[orchid knot]

If they made that and I visited someone who had anubis mask on display I can't promise I won't steal it

[waxen oyster]

bubba go to sleep I’m not a fan of the whimsical wood sofa 😭

[orchid knot]

Omg wait what if we could hang our masks on the walls like in the shop, I'd have weasel and deer and birb masks out

[covert bison]

The mannequin things are a little scary but storing outfits would be good

[waxen oyster]

My Anubis mask would finally be a useful decoration because I rarely wear it

[orchid knot]

grabs it

[hearty wigeon]

i hope they lower the prices for the furniture 😭😭 like how am i supposed to get that many hearts what-

[waxen oyster]

What if you could have 4 mannequins with favorite/interesting outfit combos, and maybe you could copy them from other people

[orchid knot]

The stone ones for hearts are permanently available so you can just save up and collect them over time

[waxen oyster]

They will stay after the season

[hearty wigeon]

what are yalls biggest wishes for season of nesting?

[orchid knot]

the nest to be made out of actual twigs and fluff

[waxen oyster]

So I think our personal nests should have closets at least

[hearty wigeon]

deffo

i am eepy

[willow eagle]

more furniture you can interact with i want to actually cook on the stove

[waxen oyster]

I made a coffee shop in the aviary season shared space, and I noticed a glaring lack of cups and other utensils

[spiral lodge]

Omg I’d have all my rhythm masks and performance masks out

[hearty wigeon]

im so jealous

[spiral lodge]

So I wasn’t going crazy when I saw that the coffee table had no cups??

[orchid knot]

Wren ate them

[rich silo]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
I made a second guide cuz WIP icons are pain enjooyyy

[rich silo]

hangs chibi masks everywhere as my kills of the enemy

[waxen oyster]

Wasn’t there a larger mirror? I thought I saw someone make a tv out of it

[visual pewter]

One of my favorite things about the game is creating shared spaces and this season has got me super excited! The wooden furniture looks absolutely gorgeous!!

[rich silo]

they're so niceeee
such good curved shapes

[orchid knot]

they remind me of drift wood

[rich silo]

the thought just occurred to me
could we have like a flip button to reverse the design if we want to use it the other way around
like mirror the design

I feedbacked immediately after dw

cuz the log lounge chair is great but like
what if we can flip it....

[visual pewter]

That would actually be amazing, certain pieces of furniture might "fit" better if it was a flip rather than a rotate

[ionic pendant]

I've already been wanting to be able to flip some head accessories to the other side of my head and such, flipping the furniture designs would be great too. ^_^

[olive nimbus]

helppp, I just realize the spirit place, why is one of 'em with a bed

[rich silo]

the other wip icons are likely to also be furniture items since no cosmetics are previewable

[olive nimbus]

sounds cool :0

[rich silo]

there's also like 12 whole wooden props available truly season of ikea

[olive nimbus]

@hearty wigeon well, I mean there's a bed in the photo in #beta-screenshots-videos i put 🍉

[hearty wigeon]

Yeah isn’t that normal? Am I missing something aaaaa

[olive nimbus]

well, we don't have a bed like that yet, not that normal 👀 (for me

[orchid knot]

It was mentioned in #beta-announcements that they've added seasonal furniture that is wooden so I'd assume all the WIP items in the season trees are the new wooden furniture since the furniture at the guide desk is the stone stuff

[lime nova]

The wooden texture looks pretty 😍 cool

[rich silo]

there are two beds (and they were roommates)
one is WIP icon which is the stone one, and the one with icon is the wooden seasonal prop!

[olive nimbus]

sounds cool :0

[golden ore]

I feel like i'm browsing an ikea catalog while looking at Cy's furniture potato log.

[orchid knot]

I like the wood furniture, I like the rustic style of it, but the current texture looks a bit plastic to me

[rich silo]

I did make a second guide for what all the WIP icons are so feel free to use it
#beta-screenshots-videos message

hopefully the way I've labelled it is clear

[lime nova]

Oh maybe its polished

[orchid knot]

but where did they get the polish?

I'm just assuming wood texture difficult cause not a lot of wooden things in game

it just reminds me a bit of wood veneer as opposed to real wood but more plastic

[rich silo]

I'm just like LET ME STAIN THE WOOD LIKE IN ANIMAL CROSSING
DARK LOGS

this is like minecraft beta when there was only one tree type

[golden ore]

TGC really pass-locked a bed.
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[rich silo]

to be fair it really is a gorgeous bed
and people can get the stone one for hearts so it's a good trade off

[waxen oyster]

I thought you meant the undo button, and after I understood what you mean, I still think we need an undo button

[rich silo]

undo would be nice too yeah

[visual pewter]

They took my shelves!!!!!
TGC really said NO to the loft

[somber oyster]

It makes sense for the showroom to have a lower capacity prop-wise, I’m sure there’ll be enough space in our nests

[visual pewter]

Oh no, I mean it's not even in the prop list anymore
Or at least I can't find it anyway

[rich silo]

no you're right, the shelves are gone

[west salmon]

we got another season without emotes lads

[visual pewter]

#beta-screenshots-videos message Thank you for finding that Cy!!! That makes sense now. But because I spent all my hearts I will have to just wait until live

[rich silo]

when painstakingly making a guide pays off cuz you remember every item in the list

[shy rock]

I don't mind this because the emotes list is massive and I can never find anything—

[rich silo]

my pain on phone with 3 columns and it takes YEARS to scroll

[shy rock]

Exactly! It's agony looking for the right emote! Maybe i'll painstakingly make a guide so I can remember all of their locations

[weak monolith]

So if i understand correctly.. this season won’t have any cosmetics??.. only furniture? what does waffle mean

[odd gust]

no idea why my message got beaned 😭 but ok-- didn't say anything bad ;w;

but the waffle basically represents "wait and find out", aka WAFO! they sound similar

[ashen sonnet]

From stone age to wooden age

[weak monolith]

Oooh that does sound similar 😂 i had no idea, thank you!

[rich silo]

I'm making a new build and it is so time consuming but it's going so well

running out of building blocks be like

[mental salmon]

Wait so they got rid of performance's big forehead!?

[tranquil atlas]

Do we need to complete all aviary quest to join new season?

[somber oyster]

No, I checked on my alt. I was able to see the new season but my alt started Q4 (didn’t complete it).

So either you can see the new season when you’ve at least started Q4, or it’s before that

[tranquil atlas]

Ohhhh that's great!! Tyy

[solar lark]

paid dlc to expand the house 😌

[rich silo]

the Haus™️

[balmy tapir]

From just how the empty displays looked like for the seasonal trees I figured it'll just be all furniture.
Hurts to be right

[uncut ginkgo]

someone know the next ts that should come in 6 days?

[lofty crypt]

I'm genuinely concerned by the prices for the f2p items this season

Like- everything is in the 15-30 heart range, and as a mostly solo player that number is UNOBTAINABLE.

And if the devs make us have to buy the furniture to decorate our nest with i will actually cry.

[rich silo]

#beta-discussion message
well here's the beta ts list, which is like 8 behind live

[lofty crypt]

Sry for ranting but like... I genuinely think tgc has seen a few players get over 200 hearts and they were like "oh if THEY could get 200 hearts, then surely everyone else can too. RAISE THE PRICES FOLKS!"

[orchid knot]

It's not really impossible for anybody to save that many hearts though, it just takes different lengths of time, but the items aren't leaving after the season so they're something to invest in whenever you want to

[trail notch]

Yeah

[royal oyster]

Eh

I miss old seasons those were really good Ultimate gifts and capes, before aurora, Now it seems like they are trying to fill the gap

[trail notch]

Good enough for me. I was waiting for housing system almost 4 years now

[royal oyster]

I’m waiting for a Satan like Black cape like Krill cape since Shattering, 2 years now

[shy rock]

Is there less space in the workshop shared space now? It's saying my shared space is full and some items have actually disappeared.

[covert bison]

Does anyone know if the shared spaces let non friends view before 3 likes? I feel like the new heart system has potential for people to get hearts more easily but if they dont have active friends, will strangers be able to see the creation to send a heart?

[lofty crypt]

cough cough solo players cough cough

[rich silo]

I think it follows the old system of publicly viewable after 3 likes because I made my initial build late and it didn't get traction until more friends liked it

[royal oyster]

Yes, They can see and send hearts

[covert bison]

That’s the difficult part I think. Id like to make shared spaces in remote areas for people also exploring but no chance of 3 friends visiting and liking it and it will be worse for solo players

[rich silo]

I play largely solo and the only hearts I get from live are from lighting back constellations like

if you invest in creating friendships some are just lighting back and never interacting otherwise and that gets you p far tbh

[lofty crypt]

Well for me... getting a heart from lighting people back usually takes me a month PER HEART. so it would take me over a YEAR to get even one of the season's f2p furniture (used the wrong word there cuz I'm dumb)

[lofty crypt]

There's just one issue with this though... I'm not talented enough to make things people will actually like and I'm sure other people have the same issue too

But I just... I don't wanna seem rude by just begging for hearts

Well... I guess I'll try using a message boat in live to see how well it'll work there. But my point still stands that the props are pretty pricy. Especially with the sheer quantity of em'

[bleak mural]

#beta-screenshots-videos message I love the basegame furniture we already got, but the seasonal furniture has so much more life and much more complicated shapes :0 it's so impressive to see all this added so close together! I love every piece

[orchid knot]

We don't get hearts from the amount of likes anymore and we never got 1 per 10 likes, you've just got some generous friends or strangers gifting you hearts via your shared memory

[lofty crypt]

Oh so my pain with getting hearts and the prices of the f2p stuff IS reasonable then BJWWFUGUFJA

[paper jackal]

How to play in a beta account

[rich silo]

Read #beta-faq

[orchid knot]

Well it's valid and reasonable to have different opinions and experiences, you can leave feedback for devs about your concerns for the heart prices

[rich silo]

Tbh as long as they're not 150 hearts each anything is better lol

[lofty crypt]

They sure ain't 150 each... but with most of em' being 15 to 30 hearts each? it QUICKLY rounds up to around that much due to just how many of them there are. (But anyways time for me to send a message to the dev team's trash compactor)

[rich silo]

What do you mean most, have you even looked at the prices properly
They're under 15

[lofty crypt]

Literally the lowest priced prop i saw was 8. The rest are usually around 15 to 30. I'm not kidding. Did you look properly? I genuinely don't wanna be rude but I just- i can't be calm if that's what the prices are GOING to be. (OK I checked again and the lowest priced prop i see in my pictures of the prices is 4 hearts. And guess how many props have that price... 1.)

[bleak mural]

the lowest-priced furniture is... well, free there's 3 extra free furniture, then the lowest prices are 2, 4 and 6
it's definitely a lot collectively if you want to get every furniture piece, but I think some people are forgetting that some of the furniture is just slightly different versions than others, not to mention that as things look we'll be having some free started furniture - 16 free ones to start with, it seems, while 37 buyable anytime/in rotation - and also of course the nicest furniture is in the season trees, several of which will be free

the point is, everyone will have choice if they want to, you'll have more if you have a lot of hearts but newer and less heart-rich players won't be left in the dust too, you surely don't need all the furniture to make the nest of your dreams in my opinion!

[rich silo]

Realistically not many players will just straight up buy out everything yeah
You just get the things you like and roll with it

More stuff = more choice, which is a good thing

[blissful grove]

[bleak mural]

I think the total cost of every furniture piece is 418 hearts right now?

I think the big table, two giant rugs and big kitchen sink counter might be the ones that cost 30 hearts each and I don't think I need any of them, except for one of the rugs maybe

[waxen oyster]

As a hoarder I’m buying everything except the manta pants

[rich silo]

I'm curious if it's only shared space specific or they will appear in the closet individually and have a back prop appearance

[waxen oyster]

Lmao imagine hauling a whole bed with you everywhere

[rich silo]

You can already haul an entire boat (gondola) so not far off

[somber oyster]

Hearts are a difficult currency to obtain, so I do understand why people feel like the prices are quite high! However, everything in beta is WIP and even the prices can still change. We just started testing the season, so feedback on everything is definitely encouraged and everything can change.

With the seasonal props, I think that also lessens the need to buy every other prop in the workshop. Nonetheless those “base game” props will be available permanently, which means we have time to buy all those 14 rugs .

Tldr: we have time, we don’t need everything. Our spaces can only hold so much props aaaaand we probably have some other non-Aviary props to start with building our Nest.

[rich silo]

I'm likely just gonna get the designs I like and peace out
Even if I can afford them all, it's better to just stick with the ones I like if there's so many variations

[shell fossil]

Mr. Sunshine, could you clarify this for me? Did you get 15 hearts from other players who sent you a heart through this message, or are you tracking the number of regular "likes" it gets and you see a heart pop up for you to collect with every ten regular likes?

[lofty crypt]

WH- 418 HEARTS? I GET THAT CHOICE IS A THING BUT JEEEZUS

[vale temple]

400ish hearts for all furniture? I'm gonna buy everything in live!! finally my hearts will have a use 🗣️

[limber nacelle]

418 hearts? Well... I have 439 in Live.

[somber oyster]

For now, yeah. But again, everything is WIP and we’re haven’t even tested the 2nd quest yet so all can change

[peak portal]

Are the wooden props going to be in the seasonal spirit trees or will they be bought somewhere else (as of now)?

[haughty plume]

Y'all have 400 hearts in live? I have zero

[somber oyster]

Okay wonderful discovery but Pere and I found out you can bring someone in your space just by holding hands? If this existed before I’m blind, if it didn’t: this is so great!

[tulip veldt]

i might do a bit of a rebuild to fix the unaligned and missing bridge bit

[proper bear]

I have nothing to buy beside ts so my hearts are stacking up

[tulip veldt]

ok i have fixed it!

[somber oyster]

Omg I’m hoping I’ll find it again

[tulip veldt]

we're in it now

[somber oyster]

I’ll be there in 5

[tulip veldt]

\o/ (if anyone else wants to hampster roll, come visit!)

[covert bison]

Right now the wooden things are the items we can use for making a display in the new shop. I don’t remember if it’s in the tree. The stuff I saw in the trees last I checked had WIP icons and I didn’t buy it because it didn’t show up for another player who bought it. But… I’m guessing it’s the wooden items that are in the tree. Some one correct me if not.

[buoyant heart]

As the #beta-announcements post states, the wood furniture items are Seasonal and purchased from the Nesting "Spirits" (the four empty showcase spaces in the Nesting Workshop in Aviary).

[spiral needle]

Happy Revival to Aviary, Happy Revival to Aviary, Happy Revival, Happy Revival..! Happy Revival to Aviary!

[astral magnet]

the furniture costing so many hearts is insanity i calculated 391 hearts to get all the furniture

[bleak mural]

I'll do a little furniture recap since a lot people may not know all of these yet :0 (some numbers aren't guaranteed to be 100% accurate, sorry!)

• So far we have 65 furniture in the shop, 53 of which are "base-game" (will be permanently obtainable) and 12 of which are seasonal exclusive
• The base-game furniture are distinguishable from the seasonal ones because the former are made of stone and blue cloth, while the latter are made of wood and orange cloth
• Of the 53 base-game furniture, it seems like 16 will be free and given us to us from the start, while 37 will be obtainable from the carpenter shop in what seems to be a future rotating pool; which ranges in price from 2 to 30 hearts, with the exception of 3/4 freebies
• The total cost of the base-game furniture so far is of 418 hearts
• The seasonal trees seem to only hold furniture and no cosmetics

[orchid knot]

#beta-announcements they'll be in the season trees as far as we know so far

[peak portal]

Thank you!!

[bleak mural]

wdym bubba?

[orchid knot]

ignore me, discord did the thing where it loaded halfway up the chat 😭

[spiral needle]

[bleak mural]

skybot said okay bet...

[orchid knot]

skybot bullying me as usual I see :(

[chilly turtle]

so uh.. who’s exited for next season?
a season without cosmetics or emotes..just props all the way
I feel like they’re taking quite a risk with this season tbh..

[half estuary]

This season won’t have cosmetics???😭😭😭

[tulip veldt]

there's been zillions of people hoping to have a house of their own so i think it's gonna go over well 🙂

[bleak mural]

I'm suuuper excited myself!

[half estuary]

It’s shocking knowing there will be no cosmetics. I just read upper massages (🤦🏻‍♀️)

[chilly turtle]

I feel like shared spaces are rather niche, they tried making them work for 2 seasons(assembly and remembrance) and it hasn’t really taken off imo.
the current camping event must be testing excitement for shared spaces..
maybe more people are interested in them as I can see from my friends (most of them haven’t even built anything there it seems)

I do think it’s good they’re willing to take risks on seasons,
I just hope events will support it by adding enough new cosmetics (and..it’s unheard of but.. hopefully also emotes)

edit: also haven’t seen new instruments for a while (no the 4-buttons drum didn’t count for me..xD)

[orchid knot]

There are so so many people who have always wanted to create a home in Sky, I really feel like this season will be a positive experience for a lot of live players regardless of a lack of cosmetics or emotes

[somber oyster]

Me too! It’s very different but I like it. Feels good to not have to run for candles to get the cosmetics, feels different with props for some reason!

It’s just so engaging to me, normally when seasons are active I don’t really go to the seasonal areas that much because there isn’t a lot to do (with a few exceptions). But I find myself opening beta and just spending hours on end either talking with friends in a space, scrolling through spaces or just looking forward to see what players have created. I like it

[chilly turtle]

I hope actually seeing the choices of nest layouts and locations will get me exited..!

[orchid knot]

I don't think missing cosmetics from one season will be such a negative thing either, it's not like we have a lack of cosmetics in game already and we keep getting more through events which will overlap with the season too, I'm really interested in them changing things up and really focusing on giving us a season where we can have a lot of options to make our spaces cozy and fun!

[somber oyster]

We need…… those little cups and teacups…. As props…..

[orchid knot]

I'm really excited for this! Hopefully soooooon

[chilly turtle]

I wanna see a really intricate colorful carpet as a seasonal item

[somber oyster]

With flowy tassels!!!

[chilly turtle]

…and it doubles as a cape (jk.. but imagine tho..!)

[tulip veldt]

rideable carpet

[chilly turtle]

I think there’s lots of potential in being able to use items in multiple ways, like placing down a sheet or instrument for any visitor of the space to use.
also placing down the little mochi bunny, bird.. , shoulder crab or jelly..

[somber oyster]

Oh my gosh yes, can I use that suggestion for feedback? Placing down a music sheet and an instrument I would LOVE this SO much

[chilly turtle]

sure!

I know it would definitely make me much more motivated to build spaces to share the music..!

[rustic walrus]

Been looking through the beta with my bf who has access and the new season seems so geared towards vets, newer players don’t have many cosmetics yet and it would take them over a year to unlock everything, 6 months if they’re just unlocking enough to furnish a home it’s exciting to see what those with plenty of hearts will create with it though!

[balmy tapir]

Yeah, very much nothing to look forward to

[brave tangle]

Wait so we only gonna have furniture and no outfits this season? 👀🥺 hm kinda excited but kinda sad because i was excited for some new outfits xd

[limber nacelle]

I'm gonna be brutally honest. If this season is just going to be only props as well as seasonal content only containing props, I'm not going to be a very happy person. I don't interact with shared creations, if at all. (The exception is shared memories, though.) And if this season is going full-on props only and all we're doing per quest is just building/making shared spaces inside new facilities, then I'm honestly not going to partake in these activities and may even take the much-needed break from Sky.

I've tried interacting with shared spaces, I really have. But there's just... nothing interesting that I feel about them. One of the main reasons I play Sky is also for cosmetics, I don't care about props that much. I'm just going to hold out a little hope that this season draws me in but so far, even though this is only the third build I believe things can change. I'm just giving my opinion so far and it CAN and WILL change.

Here's to hoping that this season has something that it can redeem itself to.

[chilly turtle]

definitely drop this whole message in feedback

[balmy tapir]

The thing is, with outfitting, you get to take your craft with you, you get to run around as this little guy. With shared spaces, you build a thing, with still very much a tedious system and a lot of time, that is gonna just stay here, you build it, look at it once and leave.
I do see the appeal of building a little nest where you can hang out, but I just don't see much interactions happening there, I prefer to go places

[cosmic vine]

friendly reminder that you don't have to actively engage with every season you are presented with if you know you won't enjoy them
don't let the fomo get to you, taking breaks is healthy and won't make your progress so far explode into smithereens

[chilly turtle]

mnn.. not only does it take more time and effort to build a shared space, they also just disappear after less than a week, compare that to an outfit which (okay, can also take me hours.. ) but I get to wear it as long as I like

[balmy tapir]

Sadly I have sky autism so I'll just have to be mildly bored the whole season. At least I'll get to use all the other stuff I bought previously

[olive forum]

I have a theory that the pass itens are not going to be interesting
Since the Season is focusing a lot on the props, and not on the Season Pass Itens

[orchid knot]

We don't know if nests will operate the exact same as shared spaces though, I wouldn't expect them to expire

[limber nacelle]

I'm not sure whether or not it's worth it, I wrote this in the heat of the moment and while my thoughts are just scattered now that it's out there, I'm going to wait at least a couple more builds before I make my decision to send feedback. I will let them cook and then I will give my feedback. For now though, I'll just see what's going to be included in the season pass.

[chilly turtle]

you clearly stated it’s your current impression, I think this is especially important for them to hear sooner rather than later when it’ll be too late to do anything with it as the season will be about to go live..

[limber nacelle]

I suppose you're right. Even if it's only the third build, I guess I'll say something.

[orchid knot]

I do also understand that frustration and disappointment of those who prefer the usual season set up with cosmetics and such and folks who don't enjoy the whole shared space creation stuff, but like Jaws said we don't have to interact with something we don't enjoy and I think it's impossible for everybody to like every single season tgc put out. It's nice to see that they're exploring something that's been a big want amongst a majority of the community though, even if it lacks in the usual format of emotes, cosmetics, etc.

And as always we're still just in the first iterations, so any and all feedback is valid and helpful

[lofty crypt]

Something I kinda wanna mention... I genuinely hope that the nests will be full on proper private servers. Cause I do NOT wanna see a bunch of unlit skykids floating around in invisible hammocks or invisible swings constantly honking. I want PRIVACY IN MY OWN HOME IT'S THE BIGGEST GRIPE I HAVE WITH REGULAR SHARED SPACES.

[chilly turtle]

looking at the usual number of items a typical season has, all this one is missing is a couple of ults and it adds up to some 14-ish items which is typical.. so I think it’s safe to assume there’s nothing else planned to unlock during this season

[orchid knot]

Well they did have that test feature during the first build with the public, friends, and private only thing in birds nest so I wonder if this will be how they cater to the variety of wishes

[lofty crypt]

Wait they did? I never went to the bird's nest in the first build so I had no idea

[orchid knot]

I'll see if I can find any photos or videos of it, it was like diamonds that appeared as green orange and red iirc

[jaunty meadow]

I do not like this season😭 I’ve never been really into share space/memory at all, so this season is kinda 😴 for me. Also the seasonal furniture doesn’t feel as good as the hearts furnitures. They have more shape yes, but the bed and the couch have a similar shape on the back. I was expecting a bit more exciting furniture since we pay 10$ for a pass (Even more for some countries) like maybe a sink that make flow water, or a oven lighting up, maybe a flower pot that add little butterfly flying around it. Like I was expecting better for this than just « Hey here, a bed but in wood😃 »

I’m also more excited to get emotes, and a season without emotes feels empty. But hey, if you like it good for you

(Just sharing my feel and though about the season, don’t go on my throat please, we have different opinion)

[balmy tapir]

I may sound disdainful, but in the end I don't have any strong emotions about this season. Just a whole lot of nothing, since nothing is of interest to me. I'll have to be content with events and what I already have. Maybe they'll finally release the pc version and we'll get dancing performer, who knows. It do be interesting that they're doing something new, I wonder how it'll go in terms of engagement

[orchid knot]

This is one post from PiBi for the now removed open and closed shared space feature in birds nest #beta-screenshots-videos message
I definitely remember seeing other posts too

One from Casey too #beta-screenshots-videos message

Another from Dingus of the red closed version #beta-screenshots-videos message

[chilly turtle]

I think the glowy glowy branch light is really fancy (except for the metal legs sticking out of it..)

[limber nacelle]

I really hope that Nesting has a redemption arc later down the pipeline, so while I have submitted my thoughts and first impressions so far, I do hope that things do change. I know it's hard to cater to everyone in a game, and yes I have felt that personally in my own life, but I'm sure they can do something that makes everyone or at least most people happy.

[tidal willow]

I'm personally not a huge fan and will probably skip out on this season when it comes to live but I definitely do love seeing everyone go ham in their spaces, it's always nice to see other people be creative even if I might not personally enjoy it myself I have a couple of friends who are huge fans of building their own lil space so they'll definitely be happy about this season haha

[limber nacelle]

I'd send this in feedback too, I really hope we do get emotes even though it's not looking likely again.

[odd gust]

pls msg don't get beaned... Huzzah 😭

As someone who has played Animal Crossing and ADORES getting to customize my own living space (I also did this in Genshin when the teapot got released (teapot is basically our own little realm rather than just a small space to decorate))

I don't mind the Nesting theme but... at the same time, knowing that there won't rlly be any cosmetics, emotes or anything besides props (yes, I know there's events as well, but they only offer so much)

While I can be creative and usually adore games like that... I for some reason just can't get into Nesting, even though I like all the props. Perhaps it's b/c, like other ppl have stated, I never interact w/ shared spaces unless it's to recharge light or smth

[tidal willow]

Ohh i feel like this too ! I couldn't put it into words but you put it perfectly

[balmy tapir]

With outfit items, I was able to find at least a few I like every season, or something else to enjoy, but if it's all furniture, it caters to only one demographic, so it's not really surprising that it feels limiting

[orchid knot]

genshin teapot based

[jaunty meadow]

When they introduce Share space/memory in around Assembly, I was kinda excited, and it’s actually peoples who was making those shared things that make me hate them😭

Exemple : Place them where we need to click and have to hide them because it annoyed me

So even if it’s a separate home, I’m kinda « Ugh » when it’s about share space/memory just because I have too much issue about peoples putting them everywhere that shouldn’t be place

[finite anchor]

I'm honestly not too hyped for the season right now either, I'm pretty neutral towards it. I still don't know if I'll buy the pass or not and ig I'll just have to wait for the next updates to see!!
Shared spaces aren't really my thing and I also don't plan on spending all my hearts on the furniture.
So either I'll like this season enough to buy the pass or I won't buy it and enjoy a small season break 😌 I'm happy that people who enjoy building shared spaces get to enjoy this season

[covert bison]

I would like to use shared spaces and player creations more but a lot of changes are making me avoid player creations. Since they added the bar of likes, scroll arrows and follows it seems more and more like social media…which I didn’t like. I still used it after it for daily meditation quests only but the last straw was the clapping and cheering being added I don’t want that when I like something and I don’t look through the items as much. I only interact with player creations for testing purposes, in beta but I don’t do it much in live anymore.

I love seeing people’s creations this season but sky is a game where you have to farm a lot and sitting in the shared space with my friends isn’t as helpful as candle running with them so I don’t see myself using it. In live I have not even made a camping space, only looked through a couple of them.

[limber nacelle]

I'm glad that some people share my opinion too. If I wanted to get the interior designing experience I could just boot up Animal Crossing and it would offer so much more to it than Nesting offers. I'm not trying to sound mean about it, but this just feels like Sky is trying to lean too much into interior designing. Something that the game isn't really about. It's more about exploring and always has been. Sure you could say that exploring the different props counts, but in the end what functionality do any of the props save for a few do? In Animal Crossing, you had cool interactions like for example a mannequin that lets you change your look or give your look to it and fro, and storage items that act as closets for your things. Heck even the microwaves, ovens, and toasters could be turned on and off, I know such things are hard to implement in the world of Sky but I'd like those interactions.

[rustic walrus]

It’s bittersweet because it seems to be a skippable season if it’s not your cup of tea or if you just don’t have the hearts (both cases apply to me), but also seasons are highly anticipated and a beloved aspect in sky, to go avoid engaging with one for 3 months will be a bit sad and empty

[jaunty meadow]

I think I’ve heard the hearts one are gonna be perm in Aviary, a bit like the base constellation, a long term goal

[frail merlin]

yup its mentioned in #beta-announcements

[rustic walrus]

True, but newer players like myself usually strive to finish constellations / spend hearts on Days of items they don’t have / unlocking ts top branches. It makes acquiring furniture an even more distant goal than 6-8 months

[limber nacelle]

Yup. Now the game feels like a 2 year goal that most people aren't willing to put themselves through.

[chilly turtle]

as a veteran with 1500+ hearts even the current selection they added isn’t going to drop me under 1k hearts.. I’m glad they’re adding something to spend some on

[tidal willow]

Was gonna say this, let's not forget hearts can be very hard to get for some people bc of lack of friends or other reasons. Really hoping the prices are gonna change even if they stay in Aviary, it just feels like a very slow and tedious process just to have fun in a game that's supposed to be more of a chill type of game ykno what i mean? ^^'

[echo mauve]

I personally enjoy that tgc is trying to do something different with what its offering for this season. Im a big fan of having my own personal space that i can just idle in and pretend to sleep wich is what i hope the nests will be. A private space that you can chose if a friend can visit or not. I get the opinion that its boring but hey atleast its a good 3 months worth of no nons stop grinding! Im excited to be able to decorate i love decorating in games and it may be bare bones at the moment but this is the first build where home building is the for front of the season abd we'll most likley receive a bunch of furniture items along the way

[balmy tapir]

Big agree, I really dislike how things slide around when you like something, and the clapping. Does make me want to touch things less.
Like, personally I think being able to place shared spaces was a huge upgrade, for the grandma burner or the lil hangout spots. But I engage with those very much occasionally, and build none of my own

[somber oyster]

I really agreeee, I have the same experience! Ever since the remembrance update to shared spaces, I have been really loving them. All the more because I can play music sheets in a shared space without ‘bothering’ others who may not want to listen to other players playing music.

Making a space your own is something I’ve wanted in Sky too

[lavish matrix]

It's nice that a shared space can provide a quiet place for your own
Plus I'm excited with the prospect of creating a private place for your own

[somber oyster]

I’m also not that bothered personally with the furniture costing hearts; I’m 100% sure there will be many players out there helping out others and sending a little (anonymous) gift their way once the heart update goes live

I was really surprised by how many strangers just sent me a random heart through my creation, and it prompted me to do the same

[odd gust]

just got back and wow, a lot of ppl agree w/ the Animal Crossing replica feeling-

Things is, what I love abt Sky is seeing everyone's unique Skykid. I have nothing against Nesting obv, it looks wonderful. But it's also just not my cup of tea Love seeing everyone else be super creative though!

I don't mind passing this Season by, as it gives me a chance to take a breather from Sky a good bit aside from Candle Runs

[somber oyster]

And when you do feel like making your own nest, you’ll know that there’s always a space waiting for you!

[echo mauve]

Im of the opinion its a bit unfair to call any game using home decoration mechanics as a animal crossing clone. Allot of games have this mechanic and i never really hear that complaint for it. Sky feels like the perfect game for this sort of thing yes its about adventuring and making friends. But how i have come to view it its also about finding yourself a home in this big world full of mysteries. Through out your many rebirths and journey across the world of sky i think it makes sense to have a place thats just for you to unwind after such a harduous adventure or day grinding for candles and getting krilled or crab bonked if that makes sense

[limber nacelle]

I'm just hoping Sky doesn't steer too far away from its own genre of it being an exploration game, it's about discovering new and old things alike.

[echo mauve]

I dont think sky will so far i think the current like "schedule" for seasons with aviary might be one season where we work on avoary village and expanding it and one woth a new location to explore with a storyline that makes you want to explore

[odd gust]

I don't mean to call it a clone, just that the aspect is similar to it is all, and w/ how Sky is, it just feels a bit limiting for those not big on home decor

[frail merlin]

yeah i was thinking about that too
there are a lot of players with 100s of extra hearts with nothing to spend it on but theres still a big part of the community that has about 15-50 hearts on average and are still deciding between buying the chibi mask or a new cape or saving it for an upcoming event/ts

but im not sure what would be a better way of going about it maybe making the props cheaper would help

[echo mauve]

I think a solution would be to have maybe a more consistent way of getting hearts in bigger amounts? Idk if that makes much sense i remember one of the devs mentioned that hearts are supposed to be personal and given only as gifts from friendship but maybe just having an activity one can do daily to get hearts could be nice and also helpfull to more loner sky kids

[maiden basin]

Afaik, only one heart is achievable for each creation despite having hundreds of likes. Unless they changed that in the update, must have been players who sent you hearts

[bleak mural]

I myself love what this season is shaping up to be so far. I think the fact aviary is becoming such a comfort space will make the exploration part even better for me, as I'll always have the tangible idea of "home" as a real one in my head while going in all the realms for my daily routines and events

[lavish matrix]

Even since aviary was released, I've seen many people wanting a place there to call their own home amidst the shops

[jade jetty]

I am pretty glad they're giving us a little place to make our own home, and I know a lot of people were asking for it. It's not for me, and I'll probably take a step back and chill this season, but it's nice that we have that option now ^^

[olive forum]

Aviary still needs more structures to make it more viable
In addition to interactions with the place

[haughty plume]

Maybe it would be nice if we could get hearts in Orbit from spirits that we've 100% completed. That way it's still friendship, in a way, and it's still something special that you work towards. But it's also more accessible to shy solo players and people who just feel bad about asking for hearts and aren't offered them normally. It could reset every week when Eden resets, maybe?

[rustic walrus]

Vets with surplus hearts definitely have a huge advantage, even if newer players put in time to make as many shared spaces as possible, there’s no guarantee they’ll get hearts. Just making the furniture cost candles and having a few handful of props cost hearts likely would have been more feasible for new players. With so many other things requiring hearts it’s not really feasible for them to participate in a timely manner

[somber oyster]

(Beta where is the rock today…..)

[olive forum]

If the Ultimate Gift is a transparent plush Cosmic Manta, I'll buy the pass!

[brave tangle]

:0000 that’s such a good idea’!!!

[crystal swan]

Whether the furniture this season will be replicated

[rustic walrus]

Increasing the frequency of double heart gifting events, having a small mailbox where writing to friends (or our future self) gives daily hearts, rewarding players with a heart if they do 3 acts of “skid self care” like going to the hot spring, interacting with spirits, sitting at a bonfire, etc. Main issue with hearts is you have to rely on others for them, and they don’t always come through. Can take a week of gifting hearts to get 1-2 sent back

[echo mauve]

OOOOH YES YES!! these are great ideas!! def put that in feedback! (and i will do the same)

[shell fossil]

Before the beta changes that allow a player to send a heart to the person who made a player creation, you could only receive one heart after a creation got a certain number of likes. So for example, on a message shrine daily quest, say you got a heart once you reached 10 likes—you wouldn't get any more hearts after that first one, no matter how many likes you got.

But back in January in beta, starting with build 243366, when we added the ability to send hearts through player creations, "likes" would no longer result in sending or getting a heart (#beta-announcements message).

[uncut ginkgo]

So no cosmetics for this season?

[chilly turtle]

A whole warehouse of props but so far nothing new to wear no..

[lofty crypt]

tbf, this is a prop based season. if the devs are planning on adding cosmetics, they'll probably be more of an afterthought, as the furniture is the main thing for the season and thus should be tested first

[rough lion]

considering the nesting guide is wearing the revival ult cape, it’s possible that that’s a placeholder for a cape ultimate gift for this season - but of course we wont know for sure until the ult gifts are added to beta 🧇

[dusk willow]

I do hope that each "spirit" will have one cosmetic based on their namesake, so the mason could have a pair of workpants, the upholsterer could have a little tape measure neck accessory over their shoulders :) probably unlikely but just a few cosmetics added would make all the difference in people who may not be super interested in the furniture side of the season

[buoyant heart]

I know there's a lot of mixed feelings and disappointment that Nesting is so heavily prop-based and appears to have no emotes so far, but I think it's a refreshing change of pace without straying too far from the "usual Seasonal formula"! I'm also really excited to see how Aviary will continue to evolve and to see exactly how our own nests will work :>

Cosmetics are a lot of fun and I totally understand feeling disheartened by a lack of them, but it's nice to have a break from adding more of what the game already has plenty of, so that it can expand on other interesting features.

(I enjoy the Spring Camping mini-event for the same reason, in addition to how there's no stress over collecting stuff.)

Of course, not everyone will feel the same, and I respect that lots of folks will view this as a boring Season or the perfect time for a Sky break, but that's okay! There's always another opportunity for something that's more to your taste in the future, and a variety of opinions and thoughts in feedback is very important.

[sage sapphire]

I feel a bit guilty for writing this but here goes:
I love a good shared space. I love seeing players creativity, discovering new props and pieces, having a cute little nap on a hammock etc.
But to me, shared spaces have never felt permanent. That's the beauty of them- find them in a fleeting moment, enjoy them and gain inspiration.
This season is giving similar vibes which I don't like. If they are going to put in the time and effort to create these beautiful pieces of furniture, do we not deserve a permanent place to showcase them i.e a permanent, fixed home? Idk man, this doesn't feel right to me. Home is meant to feel safe and private- this isn't giving that feeling at all.

[dusk willow]

I'm pretty sure we're getting a home aside from the shared spaces. The nests to the left of aviary village definitely look like a little apartment complex

[sage sapphire]

I hope so, that would be adorable! Little village apartments, give a wave to the neighbours ahhh cute

[blissful grove]

Felling relaxed A whole 'Season of Tranquility' for me, who doesn't have much? creativity, doesn't know how to put a prop/item properly in a desired angle

[prime umbra]

I wish the whole room was functional like functional stove, bed, shower….

I feel like playing “the sims” on sky

[shell fossil]

I need to head out, but yes—I mentioned in the first 0.25.0 updates post that the "nests"/housing area would become available later. Those will be in a beta build (#beta-season-test-chat message)

[slow jackal]

Are we sure there will be little to no cosmetics this season?

[visual pewter]

No one is certain about anything at this point. Except for the devs and they aren't spilling (yet)

[rich silo]

props are taking up a huge majority of the seasonal spirit tree items right now so cosmetics will probably on the smaller side significantly I reckon
but can only wait and see

[visual pewter]

For me shared spaces are a form of expression. I don't necessarily create mine for other people, I create them for myself. If other people also enjoy them, then that's just bonus. I don't play musical instruments, I don't have the talent (or enough dexterity in my fingers LOL). But shared spaces allow me to be creative and expressive just as instruments allow Sky musicians to do the same.

I literally spent hours creating my little dollhouse and I'm actually excited to do it all over again in live if I am able. We have shared space sculptors that can create something completely different and amazing using what once appeared as household items

Cosmetics are also a form of expression. I do understand that a lot of people expect that cosmetics should be a part of every season, so I'm not knocking anyone for wanting cosmetics. I guess the only reason I'm posting this is because I want to offer a different perspective to people that feel like this is not "Sky" enough.

To me this is just another art form.

[rich silo]

no one has poked my zoo build ingame yet but at least people here have seen it

I think also since events have had an increase in cosmetics it offsets seasons in a good way
Like there's more variety for yearly returning items Vs waiting 3 years for the TS to come back

[visual pewter]

I spent hours trying to find your tractor and I never could

[rich silo]

Shoot me a QR in DMs so you can find future builds?

[past robin]

Cy can I also send a QR? I’d love to be able to see your future creations!

[rich silo]

Yes send them ^^

[visual pewter]

Sent!
And thank you!!

[lapis loom]

i being able to make my own decorated room but also the props you can buy with hearts look kind of dead in the grey tones and the room itself is dark grey stone, maybe it would look better and warmer with a wood floor or roof? idk i know sky hasn’t used wood a lot but it would give it a cozier feel ig whar are your guy’s thoughts?

[rich silo]

i've been getting so many hearts from the shared spaces so it is a way
but the initial bottleneck not benefiting solo players is a struggle yeah

also when my shared space [expired] my build stayed so I could just publish it again, it doesn't go away

[visual pewter]

I think everybody keeps getting confused about placeable shared spaces and permanent shared spaces. The shared spaces that we create at the big diamond, those don't disappear unless we reset them. The one that I have in live at the forest treehouse, it's still there and I haven't touched it for at least a month. It might disappear from rotation so my friends can't see it, but all I have to do is just reactivate it and it'll be available again, but everything is exactly the way I set it.

[sharp dagger]

I've feedbacked about this before some time when the changes to the whole system hit, but honestly removing the "friend liked = visibility" requirement altogether (even in its lowered state) would help alleviate the major hurdle of solo players being unable to have any sort of visibility when creating shared "content" in Sky. There's already no longer a material benefit to the "certain threshold of likes equaling out to an earned heart" anymore outside of just getting higher visibility, and in all of the times I've attempted to browse in hopes of finding more spaces that don't find high favor through likes, the only time I ever come across any that fit in that range is if they're fortunate enough to have at minimum one like period. I only ever see zero likes/me being the first like when giving my friends' content a like in hopes others would see their ideas and creations as well, but there are a lot of times they never get beyond even my single show of support, too, as this also happens in my own attempts to share just as equally.

While I understand it serves as a quality filter, with the way the changes to receiving likes and hearts from everything, it also continues to actively be a huge barrier to players that just don't have the friends that are engaged enough to even stop and like their messages, whether they're active, inactive, or even really exist. I honestly feel it wouldn't hurt to try new ways of being able to filter and interact with creations with less likes as well, whether it alternates between most/least popular or something.

I can't claim that it's a surefire answer, but it's not as if hiding and reporting options aren't accessible should the like requirement threshold be completely wiped... just like we were all able to test out the limits of the comments system, it would help to also be able to test how that extended visibility would affect the creative spaces as well, IMO.

[solar patio]

Uhhhh I've got a silly question:
Sagomay used a brand new word "seasonal-limited" in this update note. One of my friend is keeping telling me this words mean those items won't come back...
I doubt it, but anyway I decided to ask about it.

[rich silo]

seasonal limited just means the usual [when the season ends the spirit trees go away and you need to wait for TS to come back]
it's not like this is a collab season so there's no reason the stuff won't come back

[brave tangle]

I still feel like people wouldn't send in live strangers hearts for 3 candles, just thinking about how people refuse to do heart trades with friends for saving up for ts and ts group and events so i just genuinely doubt anyone would send hearts, i feel like in beta it's different because people can get more candles and not everyone focuses that much on cosmetics there, so i dont really like them taking away the 10 like = 1 heart

But this is just my opinion xd

[rich silo]

The live playerbase is waaaayyyy bigger than beta and like
I've had random hearts come in from strangers so I'm very certain it will still be successful

Also events don't really take candles anymore so that doesn't apply as much
Hearts a bit more yes but candles no

There's plenty of people who don't scr in beta so they are just broke™️ I've seen that happen lol

[blissful grove]

In live, people use alt for getting hearts

[rich silo]

And that's against tos and is a bannable offence

[brave tangle]

I mean old items are still for candles and they are not cheap either xd just bloom almost all capes are around at least 80 if not a 100 candles, and rainbow event with 170 candles with cape i still feel like a lot considering you don't have the ts and other spirits that are coming xd

[rich silo]

I've skipped that cape the past 2 years XD
The only reason I'm getting it this year is because I've collected all the TS lol

I'm not trying to diminish the reality of the struggle of currency because I've been there and it does suck but from what I've seen, once a creation gets going, it really gets going in ways you don't expect

I do agree that taking away the daily medi reward is counter productive though

[brave tangle]

Yeah, i made in the past shared spaces and notes and there were more then a lot of times when it didnt even reach 10 likes xd im just concerned that with this update that little chance of getting at least one heart is gone too xd

[rich silo]

Unless... They finally phase out daily medis and it's not a thing anymore
Cuz it's been a VERY long time since there was last a daily for it

[brave tangle]

Oh true.... Nooo but i loved medi quests
And getting a heart for it was the cherry on top :c i hope at least they keep it for that

[rich silo]

They were a very specific ptsd for me LOL because the only way to guarantee a heart was to make a medi right at reset because people don't tend to go back and poke others messages
I didn't get Medi hearts anymore after they changed the UI for it

[brave tangle]

Since it was a while for a medi quest to come up i kinds forgot about it :c im sad because there was already a bug with it in the past not giving hearts and they finally fixed it and now its gone again 🫠

I think it would be a good match the 2 option together, if the goal zo get more hearts why take away the past system instead of building on it 🥲

[rich silo]

Sounds like when they fixed the trapped manta in boneyard to have the play button to free it and then after that the free the manta daily never returned

[brave tangle]

Ooooo i didnt even know about that bug :0

[rich silo]

It wasn't really a bug but more like if you merged with someone who already freed it you would have to reload the area to get the daily complete

[brave tangle]

Ooooo interesting :0 i guess i missed that one xd even tho it sounds interesting 😔 i hope they will bring it back

[rich silo]

You know what I don't miss from that era
4 person handhold daily

[lavish kestrel]

silly question but will this season just not have any cosmetics at all? (other than the guide's)

[rich silo]

From what I've noticed, there's 2 slots for cosmetics on 2 of the trees, then the rest will probably be on the guide

So there will be some but not a lot, it's heavily skewed to furniture

[rigid kayak]

I agree with the struggle of heart currency in sky live. A lot of players struggle getting hearts, especially since a lot refuse to trade hearts since they wanna save their candles for ts. Seeing the prices for some of these items in beta has me worried about new players as I've said before. It's hard to get hearts after getting all the hearts from spirits and guides. They supply a good amount but typically those hearts go to their constellations. I've done shared spaces and memories but I think only 3 times I've been able to get a heart from them. The requirements get higher but it's starting to cause an imbalance in veterans vs. New players.

[rich silo]

Don't they need hearts to get items from TS though as well

I'm also curious about the supposed imbalance because there's definitely long time players out there who are just as broke
So it's not so much a problem of old Vs new players than it is just plain old [people don't have the time to commit to the game sometimes]

[rigid kayak]

Yep, some don't go put of their way to get the hearts, I used to do that I'm the beginning cause it felt impossible to get enough hearts. However others do trade with friends, but usually leave out new players. I'm not too worried about veterans because they're more secure in how they obtain hearts and candles, mostly new players who don't get a lot of chances for hearts from players.

[lofty crypt]

i feel like if they're gonna make the props cost hearts, they should at least limit it to 5-10 hearts maximum per prop. cause having a bunch of props that cost 15-30 hearts each mostly is just RIDICULOUS

[echo mauve]

Is reminded of the 30 heart flower crown of days of love....dread

[rich silo]

It's 15, not 30

[echo mauve]

Oh my bad then

[covert bison]

I’m pretty poor in live game because I am too lazy to candle run consistently..the only reason I get hearts is I sometimes lead other people on candle runs and then they light my star. It’s a legitimate way to earn a good amount of hearts. I don’t remember the last time I got a heart from a player creation in live game…

[rich silo]

I haven't traded in a long time but I regularly keep up with lighting people back so I get a heart every 2-3 days
If anything I'm losing candles because I've been giving them away for fun sometimes

[lofty crypt]

something i've noticed is that most of the people defending the harsh prices seem to be veterans that have played the game for a while, and probably have a decent amount of every currency to not be worried.

[echo mauve]

I have seen the argument that with the prices its something you can work for with time or help with veteran heart sinks. But to me i really think this season would benefit from low heart costs. Aviary is most likley the first season many moths and casual players will start off with and the nests is mostikley only the third season for many. It just feels like itd be more fair to the many new players and help them not feel discouraged to see big costs for so many items

[orchid knot]

Not all older players have an excessive amount of currencies though, I don't really think how long you've played is so relevant as much as people just view the process differently - to me the stone items appearing in the regular guide shop just feel like an extension of base game content which is there permanently and something to work towards over time. Regardless of how long I've played or how much currency I have, that opinion would remain the same. In fact I've played nearly 3 years and I've yet to complete all base cons because I know they're there permanently and therefore I can do other things first and not feel so much pressure to buy everything outright from them - so I just feel like the furniture thing is the same.

[covert bison]

I’m hoping it will be like the display shop where you can test making a shared space with the items without needing to buy them. Then if they really like it, they can save up and be able to use it elsewhere in the game. It will be sad for new players if they are too poor to buy anything and their nest is empty.

[rich silo]

Shared spaces everywhere already give you free props to work with so I think they'll be fine

[orchid knot]

It's interesting to me that the focus is new players finding it difficult to save hearts though when it's vastly different these days in getting hearts - there's way more guides to be able to grab hearts from, there's changes to the system of receiving hearts through shared content, not to be all when I was young, but kids these days have a lot more ways to collect hearts so I think it's not unfair to have them as a price for the furniture

[rich silo]

That's assuming the regular player looks that stuff up to begin with
There's all kinds of playstyles

Also ultimately (though solo players suffer) sky is a game that is incredibly social based so you would need to use candles to make friends to get hearts like that's just the core of the game
And that extends to shared creations

[orchid knot]

Also, all the dusty old vets I know who have mass amounts of candles are the type to want to help newer/poorer players save up hearts and have an excess of candles to throw at shared content so chances are they'll be the ones yeeting hearts around for anybody struggling

[covert bison]

The ability to send hearts directly isn’t in live game yet, maybe they will add it during nesting season but they might wait and make more adjustments

[rich silo]

It would coincide well with all the new basegame expansion items

[covert bison]

I hope they will put back getting 1 heart from a certain amount of likes before it goes to live so that poorer players can still help out without spending candles

[orchid knot]

It's not you're right, but I feel like it'll come soon if these items do go into live for all hearts, it would be a good timing thing to introduce a new way to earn hearts, I don't think tgc have ever done one thing without adjusting another - like when AC costs went up in friend trees and elder masks dropped, we had shards to offset the sudden spike of needing more AC

Plus it's definitely intended for this year if the roadmap blogpost was anything to go by, iirc they addressed changes to shared content?

[rich silo]

You say that but they chucked out the 150 heart BW capes as is
Though if memory serves, shared memories were a thing then

[covert bison]

I agree it will probably be added once the nesting season comes to live, it’s a very huge change so I think they started trying it earlier for more feedback

[rich silo]

Bubba they made Eden harder but didn't give us the rest of the elder masks

[orchid knot]

Tbh eden is scaled to reflect the fact we have like 200+ wings and elder masks pre-existing, eden has been too easy for too long imo

[orchid knot]

I honestly think that would be a good one for meditation quests specifically because those were very easy to work as a team with friends to get each other one heart after 10 likes you know? I left feedback about that a while ago actually

[rich silo]

You can... Get to the end without 200+ wings though...
If you're gamin

[rich silo]

You say that but everyone cursed the hell out of crawling when shattering was about

[covert bison]

I have put feedback about it also. I think the meditation quests would be a good place for it but I don’t see why they can’t add it to everything like it is now, it is only one heart from a lot of luck and people liking what you made without spending. But my experience with the player creations is I’m liking them less after some changes. I mostly use them for grandma or the honking recharge spots and those are leaving now as well

[orchid knot]

Exactly my point though, eden has been somewhat easy for a while even with crawl changes and such - it wasn't as fun if you're wanting a cake walk to the end with all statues, but it's been doable with below 200 and with elder masks and stuff so these current changes to me are just like yep scaling it to our current capabilities

[rich silo]

There's still gramma shared spaces if you know where to look

[orchid knot]

I'm guessing they have a reason for only having one heart system tied to shared content, it would make sense to players to just keep the old system and add the new one on top because weeeee guarantee of one heart and then additional hearts from gifts, but I'm guessing they have discussed that too and decided on just using the new system for reasons

[orchid knot]

devs look away

[rich silo]

Quick toss them fossil gremlin as distraction
Distract with cuteness and chaos

[past robin]

I will be using “distract with cuteness and chaos” in my everyday life from here on out.

*sorry- not seasonal test related. Will not happen again!

[covert bison]

It doesn’t guarantee a heart though it seems like a lot of luck

[orchid knot]

it's okay the devs are already looking away since I asked nicely, just gotta-

mods look away

[rich silo]

bubba same distraction tactic what are you doing

[orchid knot]

to get back to actual season stuff though, I can definitely understand the apprehension for the heart prices for furniture, but I do think it depends on how you look at the process for getting the items, I think the whole point is to be able to work towards them over time rather than just grab all the things immediately and make the best "hey mtv welcome to my crib" nest from the get go. In any game with home stuff you have to save and work your way towards lots of furnishings ~~unless you're a motherlode fan in sims ~~

[rich silo]

yeah like shell shock aside, they’re there forever it’s not like the limited timespan of event items

it definitely feels sad to not have as pretty of a base as early but tbh that still also applies with event items now since people buy tickets to get cosmetics early

[fading hazel]

Since we use hearts can we place purchased furniture in shared spaces in any location or is it only possible in aviary area!???

[rich silo]

if you bought the item you can use them anywhere outside of the workshop shared space but also inside it

[fading hazel]

Welcome to IKEA season

[orchid knot]

I think as well how we look at aviary/nesting as like oh this is new content to us, but in time it'll tie into base content for new players in future so I think it'll be easier to digest for them honestly - like sure it'll be a shock totalling up everything (it is when you sit and total base cons lol), but I really do think if people look at it as like oh this thing is here permanently and gives me something to work towards outside of new seasons and events then it's a long-term goal and isn't just about MUST COMPLETE NOW

[rich silo]

yeah that was how I looked at constellations because when I joined, tier 2 capes were already a thing and it wasn’t so much of like “oh no that’s a lot” it’s like well i can just take my time and prioritise my spending better

[somber oyster]

Im backreading a little bit, and you actually have a really good point. As Aviary is meant to be the new “start” of Sky, a townhall consistently used by players but also the place new players will see for the very first time, it could definitely benefit from a lower heart cost.

I remember as a new player barely getting the 14 hearts every two weeks for TS emotes, let alone finishing constellations. Understanding the value of the currency in Sky took a while.

It’s a double feeling for me: on one hand, I understand that building your nest takes time and experience. Over time, you collect more, but it would be nice if there were more props available for a lower heart cost.

However, there are a few basic free items we can get, too. But it would be cool if we have some standard featured props available to decorate our Nests with (just like in shared spaces, there are always “free featured props”).

[echo mauve]

i got so surprised by the @ i wasnt expecting it but yes! the way your wording this is definitley much better explained then how i felt about it so thank you!

[somber oyster]

Yeah you really voiced it well and got me putting myself more in the perspective of a new player.

I said this before too, but the hearts on the trees of past guides should remain free indefinitely. New players should be encouraged to experience the storylines of Sky, and if they can get rewarded by a free heart after completing a quest, that would help them a great deal I feel

[rich silo]

for science i’m making a guide of how many heart cost items are in what cost bracket because the discussion has been thrown around without clear discernment so stay tuned

[somber oyster]

Hm, I wouldn’t write off the arguments here as if they were written without ‘clear discernment’. Especially when it’s about new players and the time it takes to understand the value of currency in Sky

[chilly turtle]

as a vet player with something like 1000🕯️1500💛 600 ac in live
I kinda wish they’d add so much stuff nobody NOBODY could have it all, it would be interesting to have to make meaningful choices in where I spent my currency instead of always having plenty to unlock everything as it releases.
unlockable at any time tho, so there’s no time pressure..

.. I suppose there’s some players that have much more saved up as I do..
but uhh, imagine once you own a cosmetic there’s a dye shop which can sell you alternative color versions for a cost comparable to the original cost.. it would be so much possibilities that the added up cost would always go up faster with new items releasing as any currency can be earned.
such a thing would effectively destroy the collect-everything mentality..

edit: this could put all players new and old on equal footing again as nobody will be able to get everything and so we’ll all have something few others have.

[past robin]

I agree! Hearts from completing quests from past guides should remain free. Especially because in order to complete Aviary, you have to complete a lot! When I came back to Sky after my break, I was fortunate because there were only a couple that I needed to do- but as a brand new player, I can absolutely see how that would feel overwhelming. Having the hearts be free indefinitely would be a small reward for completing those.

[rich silo]

why did that get beaned what was wrong with it

anyway wanted pure stats of low vs high cost items is all, for clarity

[rich silo]

dude I have 3k candles and adding more stuff that costs a lot just hurts me inside lol
moth me would be dying
all other moths would be dying

[spiral needle]

[chilly turtle]

I kinda understand hahaha, ever since I hit 1k candles I feel the need to reduce my heart-giving philanthropy to save up until I’m back at 1k+ …
same thing for hearts lol

[rich silo]

for me as long as I float above the 3k number anything is fine I have enough XD
yeet hearts everywheeereee

I realised after I first hit 1k that it was the stability of the never changing first number that gave me the biggest relief cuz you don’t need to see it just drop like mad whenever something expensive comes along
but also it’s such a grind to get there if you buy out events and ts along the way (that’s just how I played the game)

[spiral needle]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @patent breach. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[swift moss]

Where are the new spirits? And this season is in the new home area right?

[waxen oyster]

No spirits or cosmetics yet. Yes the season is in aviary

[stoic prairie]

ah

[vale temple]

I want a season furniture that's a jar of leaves and twigs and it has a stick bug light creature in it

Bonus if interacting with it allows it to come out of jar and sit on our head until we put it back or exit our house (it'll automatically go back).

[cunning hearth]

you just reminded me, if they are gonna make a home system, a pet system and farming system would be perfect

[mystic portal]

Help

[crystal swan]

That may require more energy and only make players more troubled.

[lusty flax]

i mean, if i had a pet cat on sky...... i think my life would be complete.....

[crystal swan]

Perhaps it will be realized in the future

[devout fractal]

…..Or, they could just make everything easy to collect without spending hundreds of hours on the game

Like i think see what ur saying but honestly this specific idea feels like a bandaid solution to a completely manufactured problem

Like. It Works but i still wish sky didn’t have the absurdly time consuming grinding it has

[rich silo]

re: missing items in closet
it's probably not put in yet but like man how many new props are there in total rn
8x4 = 32
32 + 12 + 3 = 47 total new props....that's a LOT

I added up based on the current roster of workshop purchaseable items + 12 new seasonal items

[prime umbra]

Sooo the new season is basically sims simulator now

[bleak mural]

it's 65! there's 53 basegame furniture and 12 seasonal

[rich silo]

I said current which was what I saw yesterday, I have not seen the full list

[bleak mural]

ohhh, alright :0 my bad

[rigid kayak]

One thing I miss from beta revival is the cute scarf the Steward had for awhile l. It turned into a cape but I thought the scarf was so cute too

[nocturne cloak]

I have just downloaded the beta . And it appeared server error due to too many players . What should I do!!? pls help meeeee

[rich silo]

don't double post the same message in both channels

[nocturne cloak]

oh i see

[crisp cedar]

I just saw a sky kid try and try and try to lose their winged lights in Forest only for a helpful sky kid to turn up to provide them with light. They kept running to different places, only to get "helped" in the end.

I almost forgot to do my candle run, since this was too amusing to watch.

[somber oyster]

@covert bison Im screaming!!!! They changed more!!!! #beta-screenshots-videos message. I have several questions

• So instead of burning the cast, there’s now a hand icon?
• you saw a new cutscene prompt in isle??? Was it at prairie too??
• were the cutscene candles in isle mandatory, or optional?

[covert bison]

•The one with the cast first you inspect the darkness (maybe to see that it’s bad) and then it teaches you how to use your candle to burn it away (flame icon)

•there was a cutscene/message right as you enter isle from aviary explaining that it’s the first realm. The first wing is no longer at the boat and is behind the spirit door flying tutorial place . The spirits don’t show up until you try to enter the spirit door to get the light and fail because you don’t have it yet. Then it explains the spirit door (I don’t know if this is new). I never reached prairie so I’m not sure if there’s a new cutscene there

•I believe the isle mural cutscene candles were optional, I had to light at least one of the sets to see the mural

[keen hare]

Whats the new season called

[crude forge]

season of nesting

[keen hare]

——-_____—————

Good thing I left this game

[tulip veldt]

we only have a very preliminary version of seasonal stuff. we don't know what the spirits will look like or what the cutscenes will be for the season

[crisp cedar]

I don't know how I feel about the furniture being all hearts. It would be hard for newbies who won't have a lot of hearts or candles.

Maybe if there was a shared for hearts it might help.

[tulip veldt]

i do think there is still a huge pressure on moths for candles between friending people, normal constellations, travelling spirits, and events

hearts is pretty much just candles x3

[rich silo]

Pressure aside, basegame has long needed new content added so
It works out

I'd imagine when T2 capes were first introduced the same argument happened and here we are

[tacit trellis]

Heya i wanted to ask what is that uhh snail thingy
I think it's in the new area in Prarie (i forgot the name of the season 💀)
What is that thing
I saw on insta that it could kill u

[tacit trellis]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
This thing

[golden ore]

Wigglyboy is a new dark creature and depletes your light when nabbed he wants to play, doesn't kill you.

[tulip veldt]

he just wants to give hugs with his tiny arms and/or mouthparts

[tacit trellis]

Aww

Is it a part of a season lore?
I need to watch some spoilers

[golden ore]

He's part of Days of Nature atm.

[tacit trellis]

Oh i hope he will stay

[odd gust]

Idk if I'm surprised or not that ppl keep asking abt seasonal cosmetics, considering Sky kinda built it's part of its foundation around having a unique skykid to explore the realms w/

Don't get me wrong, the furniture season is nice and interesting, but goodness..

[boreal grove]

Well the furniture is fine and like be creative on shared spaces but the way that we can get some furniture by buying them a hearts is hurts and imagine that there's no purpose of carrying them, just display.

[odd gust]

season testing is still early so

I'm sure there will be improvements overtime

[mighty gale]

I don’t mind, it’s a nice change if for once a season is about something else than collecting outfits and expressions. I already have so many of them that I don’t even use, but I have no cozy nest yet. Very excited for this content

[cloud ocean]

Yeah, I can appreciate TGC wanting to expand a different aspect of the game in this season. Naturally, it’s not gonna click with everyone…. I’m one of those people whom this season is not for. I don’t see myself winding down at the end of the day in my room, logging in to play for a bit, and then just… spend time in a digital room

[golden ore]

I'm in a different boat, it's a clash of events. I have intentions to get an actual house this year and spending money on digital furniture just feels weird.

[solar lark]

Same, also it would be nice if it was purely a prop season so I can take a break from the season

[orchid knot]

rattles nesting guide GIVE QUEST TWO

[zenith dust]

I love creativity, decorating and building etc. in games I play.. but I really enjoy getting to wear new cosmetics in sky and stuff every season.. only getting furniture this upcoming season is kinda sad for me. I know others will probably enjoy it but it's just kind of a let down for me 😔
Maybe if there were a couple cosmetic items i wouldn't be as sad about it but idk..

[orchid knot]

If you haven't already, it's a good idea to share your thoughts in #beta-feedback

[keen hare]

This game rlly needs a different approach

Is it gonna have 100 seasons or what.

[vale temple]

God I hope so

[orchid knot]

One million seasons!!!

[golden ore]

100 seasons would be around 25 years of content

[dim cedar]

1 BILLION seasons!

[rich silo]

I don't mind a purely furniture season
Basegame needed stuff for a long time and it seems like a good way to implement it (cost aside)
As of late when TGC adds something to the game of this scale they've been packaging it as a season

Also there is a ridiculous amount of cosmetics in the pool as is and events are adding way more to it so seasons don't need to have as much of em

We are still missing the ults + two items on the spirit trees so only time will tell how do

[rich silo]

ooo it took forever but my shared space finally shows my most recent build's stats

[uncut ginkgo]

if this season doesn't have cosmetics i might skip buying the pass for the key necklace

[heavy mist]

Hey

[echo mauve]

Side eyes fortnite

[spring swift]

I do think that making the furniture season main currency being hearts is gonna be quite difficult. Especially for moths, and more casual sky kids. Although it's not as tough in the early days of sky (was there), but it's still difficult to get hearts even now.

Either, there is an easier way to get hearts but not make it too easy (have some of the difficulty), or use a different currency altoghter (which is a bit too much, since we have a bunch of new currencies, like the tickets)

[odd gust]

I don't even see why we'd have to use hearts in the first place if it's a Season. Why not use seasonal candles like always?

Just putting the thought out as always, wafo 🧇

[brave tangle]

Because those will stay not like seasonal items? 👀 like even after season ends

[odd gust]

unless I've misunderstood you? apologies if I did

this is how ik I'm not awake yet, I did misread your thing, apologies--

yea, an easier way to obtain hearts would be nice honestly, considering solo players like me try to not use up all the ones from the guides we can get

[rich silo]

yeah if it's seasonal candles then...man that's 50+ props you're waiting to come back 😂

[brave tangle]

Fr xd and in the meantime people just wont get any props for their home? Xd like for years? Xd empty house would be sad for a moth ngl

[odd gust]

I'm not fully "alive" yet apologies

[lofty crypt]

Ik I've said this several times, but I'll say it again... I HOPE WE CAN JUST USE THE FURNITURE FOR FREE IN OUR OWN HOME, and that actually buying the furniture is just to use them in other shared spaces in places like prarie and the treehouse and such i have plenty of props in live and I'm still worried about being forced to get the furniture for my home due to how pricy that stuff is.

[rich silo]

I do think regardless like
it's great that you can try every single prop in the workshop to see if you want it before buying for yourself
realistically people are only gonna buy the pieces they like, much like irl furniture shopping

[rich silo]

tbh getting them for free in your own home defeats the purpose of making them purchaseable for hearts to begin with
you just buy the pieces you like

[lofty crypt]

BUT THE PRICES DUDE, AND I HAVE A SEVERE ISSUE OF WANTING AS MANY OPTIONS FOR DECORATIONS AS POSSIBLE

[rich silo]

then save up for them

[tulip veldt]

i am seriously alarmed by how many people apparently go into stores and buy...everything?

[rich silo]

pere it's the return of the start of covid, when all the paper tissues vanished /hj

[astral magnet]

its a video game, not real life. people in video games like to get everything as that's a key point of most videogames for a vast majority of people. its an escape from the real world, not an alternative. prices are ridiculous at the moment and with how tedious hearts are to acquire it would take the average player (someone who just wants to relax and play with friends etc) a VERY long time. It feels like its catering way more to older players and puts even more stress on newer players

[cosmic vine]

who's gonna be stressed over not having enough for the, idk, a chair that's 1) always there and 2) can be substituted by plenty of stuff
it's like saying the expensive ball game from the passage guide puts stress on new players, or the 150 candle race prop in the aviary
unless a player is super into home decorating, I don't think anyone's gonna care that much
just like many people don't really want to complete their constellations and so on

[lofty crypt]

i... I genuinely can't believe how many people defend these prices. I just can't believe it.

[astral magnet]

that just sums my point up. more people would buy stuff if it wasnt so ridiculously priced

[rich silo]

also if you looked at my cost breakdown guide, there's actually a lot of lower heart cost items so it's still accessible to peeps
much like how every game is as well - you do need to work towards the things you want to obtain. Sky doesn't really give you any inherent advantage to having props other than bragging rights + more options for decoration so like
it's fine to just skip for your sanity

as much as the argument of stress on new players is there, I feel like as long time players it's also our responsibility to encourage them not to stress as much about it and enjoy the game outside of [oh no there's so much stuff to get]

[tulip veldt]

the thing that i find offensively expensive is levelling up friendship emotes

[rich silo]

I feel like realistically most people complete their favourite constellation if they even have one then don't touch the rest

[tulip veldt]

if i make a couple of new friends and want to get a new seasonal friendship emote? hundreds of candles

[rich silo]

god pere it's an entire TS worth to get up there

[cosmic vine]

of course it would be nice if everything was free or one heart each, but I think it's obvious that the furniture follows the pricing of the pre-existing props, and, unless they shake up those as well, I don't see them changing much

[rich silo]

tbh unlearning completionism is great mental health boost
not holding all items sacred, esp for things that will come back/be there forever

[tidal willow]

I mean,, I would love to complete everything in the game that requires to have hearts to even afford it, but it's just near impossible to keep up with at the moment, I only started playing last year around this time and it's not really that easy when you want to get a lot of things, it just feels like you're expected to grind out the game to have everything when I thought this game wasn't supposed to be like this unless I am completely mistaken I do think it would benefit a lot more if a lot of things on this game costed less, I think a lot of people aren't happy with the pricing because of how much there is which the currency is also time consuming to get and it altogether costs quite a bunch

[rich silo]

I do think it also has to do with what kind of friendship circles you hang out in or spaces in general like
moving away from the AAAAAAAA MUST GET ALL helps reduce fomo I find

not to say people's friendships are invalid but just something to think about

[tulip veldt]

i did 100% tears of the kingdom tho 🙂

[lusty flax]

i personally like having something to look forward to and saving up for, especially hearts, because when you've played a while you stock up on hearts so quickly

[rich silo]

I do agree that there needs to be a better way to earn hearts because the daily medi being borked is like oh boy
that thing has helped a lot of people (moth me)

[lusty flax]

fr, im curious how that would look

[rich silo]

like the fact creations don't go public until at least 3 friends like it is a bit
idk
like if you're not that familiar with people you've friended it feels awkward like forced interaction

[tulip veldt]

i think i always was helped out by seeming to make a bunch of friends who light back

but no one ever likes my messages so i literally leave the exact same thing on every message shrine quest now

[lofty crypt]

this is all genuinely hurting me so much, the fact nearly every beta player justifies the high prices as "oh just save up! Just forget they even exist! Don't worry about the 30 heart price tag for a rug while hearts are hard to get! The prices are fine for vets like me that have over 500 hearts cause I can afford them all just fine!" While everyone just seems to look at the prices from a veteran's point of view that's actually invested in the game. From a new player's perspective, the prices could potentially be SO bad that the new player could feel intimidated, think a lot of shop prices will wind up being like that, and then leave for good.

[finite anchor]

idk i can kind of see how these prices would be discouraging for new players. it's not even about buying everything, but rather about checking out the workshop (in the tutorial area basically) and immediately being greeted by a wall of items that require tons of hearts.
i get that hearts pile up for older players but i just hope it isn't too off-putting for new players

[tidal willow]

There definitely needs to be more or/and better ways to earn hearts because i think that's the issue right now, if it were a bit easier to get i think newer players would also be able to keep up with older players who have saved up more over time than they need to spend

[rich silo]

I did daily trades up until I got the last T2 cape and have been purely coasting on lights and sporadic gifts since

[lusty flax]

i think the two things can be true at the same time. as a person who has played for a long time, i like saving for things like these. at the same time, i agree there should be an easier way at obtaining hearts in sky

[rich silo]

I do wonder though, because in beta every day it's increased in the amount of props
when it gets to live maybe the timer will be longer? nature of testing and all that

like if the prop count increased every week that may be better?

[tulip veldt]

i mean, it took me a long time to save up for the teal tier 2 cape? it is inevitable that you have to save for things you want

[rich silo]

my personal hell with pink t2

[tulip veldt]

and now i have it...do i wear it?

[finite anchor]

i think even if it increases every week that will be too much for the average player, or what do you mean?

[lofty crypt]

But that's the thing. That cape IS ONE item. The furniture is many, and having too many goals and things to decide on can wind up becoming too overwhelming. And it's not that easy to just forget the furniture exists especially when you take a moment to account that shared spaces SHOW OFF PROPS, WHICH SHOWS THE FURNITURE, WHICH CAUSES YOU TO REMEMBER IT EXISTS

[rich silo]

no that's what I meant
or it can be rotating every week of like a batch of 8-16 items perhaps
but then people wouldn't know when the thing they want appears and have to rely on guides

[somber oyster]

It’s pretty hard to put myself fully in the perspective of a newer player, but I understand that seeing a bunch of ‘expensive heart props’ can be discouraging.

Everyone’s game experience is different, and while opinions from some members in beta chat may be different from yours, please know your feedback and how you experience the game is valid nonetheless!

I do want to say that it might be a relief for other players to know those props aren’t going anywhere and will stay indefinitely

[rich silo]

tbh for me the moment I learned I didn't need the T2s to complete constellation I was like OH THANK GOD

[thin badge]

Is anyone else having the issue of unlocking season items only to not see them in the closet? There’s no other bug reports about it so- I’m wondering if I’m just doing something wrong?

[tulip veldt]

i dont think the nest furniture items show in the closet yet (do they show when you go to make a shared space?)

[rich silo]

like truly the furniture props are like
they're not there in a way of [you absolutely need this item to progress in the game] like constellations
they are just there to look pretty and that's a nice relief to me

[thin badge]

There isn’t anything in the known issues that say not to unlock stuff yet- but I’m worried I broke my game but doing so

[tulip veldt]

look all i apparently need is hamster tubes and maybe some shelves for ramps 🙂

[rich silo]

that's been happening since the season started, but also consider there's like 50+ props they added and they all need back prop versions so they may not be added for now because that's a lot of work to resize and rig to the skid model

[past robin]

Was just there last night rolling around again. Just for fun. 🤣

[thin badge]

So am I okay in unlocking some stuff?

[lusty flax]

@/cy i like that the most about the furniture items you need to get with hearts, we are given lots of options for furniture already as it is, and i see the ones you need to pay for hearts as like, something cute to look at but not absolutely needed

[rich silo]

it should be! I mean worst that can happen is the trees reshuffle and you need to buy back nodes again but that's it really
seasonal items usually don't freak out, it's the ults that are more sketchy

this is just my guess based on beta history but shouldn't be considered fact, just wait and see what happens imo

[thin badge]

Noted, thanks cy

[rich silo]

it makes me think a lot of my first season I joined on, assembly
like I thought I needed the props but I only got them later only to not use them so it's also like

it's a learning experience when you buy items you didn't end up actually liking so you learn to prioritise currency for what you want (but for me I get stuff anyway because I like things )
but it was a relief to me that those items were there and I just agonised for the next two years waiting for the rest of the assembly spirits to come back

[tulip veldt]

me: getting masks when i literally wear the owl mask 100% of the time

[lusty flax]

cy i think that rly brings up an interesting conversation around "fomo", cuz personally i was like that with iaps for a while until i realized wow! i do not need to go poor over this

[rich silo]

I am waaaayyy more picky with IAP now than my first year of sky haha (though those items have come in handy for outfit reqs so they have regained some purpose though I do not care for them hoho)
so I apply the same IAP mentality to event items

I've skipped the 175 rainbow cape for 2 years it's time for me to finally get it for I have all the past TS (except you know who)

[cosmic vine]

to be honest, speaking from the filthy rich vet perspective, I'm not planning to buy any furniture unless I really like it or need it for something
I'm not a shared space person, never was, but if one day I really feel like it - I'll splurge on some carpets, why not
but I just personally don't see any pressure to get stuff (not even for the bragging rights like for the t2s)

[tulip veldt]

i am a little worried that the discourse will turn into a fomo thing about how shared spaces with rare/ultimate/iap items will get more hearts

[rich silo]

I like decorating so I'm definitely grabbing my favourites when they show up
will I get every carpet? eventually
but will probs prioritise on the designs I like first

[covert bison]

I don’t think props should rotate since it may be hard to know what price to save for.

I think the season will have something to offer the new players though even if they have 0 hearts, since the display area is already fun to build stuff if you like that. We haven’t even seen nests yet but people are already doing a lot with the display maker. I also could have sworn there was a free pillow or some other free items I saw, so a nest could still be warm for 0 heart moths.

[rich silo]

there were 3 free props and the pillow was one of them I believe, the plain one?
then there's a table

[tulip veldt]

so i kind of hope there will be sort of a days of fashion thing where there's a feature of ults sometimes

[lusty flax]

Filthy Rich Vet Perspective

[rich silo]

honestly workshop shared space functions a lot like the aviary closet - it lets you try out items you don't own to see if you like it first

[cosmic vine]

just being honest 🏄

[rich silo]

it is also nicer to have everything available in shared space to poke at vs 50+ spells lol

[limber nacelle]

Wasn't there Days of Style? I haven't read through this conversation yet but correct me if I'm wrong.

[cosmic vine]

okay but I would actually love if the workshop display had previews for the ts / quest tree / etc props, it could really help people out and not make them waste candles on the mini lantern from the wise parent

[rich silo]

jaws you clearly haven't seen my latest build smh
IT'S A GOOD TURTLE HEAD, IT HAS A LIL EYEBALL

[cosmic vine]

i am blind in my third eye

[lusty flax]

@/ jaws i agree, for my s/o who is a newer player i put on all the current ts cosmetics for them to review ~~before they perhaps make a bad purchase ~~

you didn't hear it from me

[rich silo]

I will not accept slander for the wise grandpa prop it's cute

[lusty flax]

i guessss they've got a wise lantern..

[rich silo]

you don't need to judge it by whether you want it or not, it's just cute 😌

[cosmic vine]

I'm sorry cy, this is the only ts prop I feel safe bullying

[tulip veldt]

not the stickers?

[cosmic vine]

I AM THE NUMBER ONE STICKER FAN

[lusty flax]

i think out of the most recently added props to the ts, i think the stickers are kinda low on my list of wants

[rich silo]

not the deflated assembly pillow?

[cosmic vine]

okay you're so right, I forgot assembly existed

[lusty flax]

HAHAHA

[rich silo]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
behold thy turtles

[lusty flax]

omg cy the lightbulb is genius

[cosmic vine]

awww those are very cute
I am okay with wise now, moth trauma forgiven

[rich silo]

can also double as ice cream or a microphone
open to interpretation shape XD

tbh I didn't expect to be able to use the herb gatherer jar either but it's just small enough to be arms

[tulip veldt]

herb jar was good for setting up a cafe

[lusty flax]

i'm really excited to see more builds utilizing all kinds of furniture to create something unique im a sucker for crazy cool builds

[rich silo]

once the timer for my shared space ends (I can no longer check comments again lol) I'm gonna make another one
I had an idea that like, the wooden sofa on a diagonal would make a good sailboat

[tulip veldt]

things i would like: lock angle, and elevate

[lusty flax]

i wish there wasn't a timer 😭

[rich silo]

tbh this situation rn is similar to the mischief IAP hell of doom now that I think about it

[tulip veldt]

was that the 'way too many past items, but actually the players want all of them' thing?

[rich silo]

In a sense of [mega wall of items] is like a sticker shock effect

[finite anchor]

it really is
the total heart cost is almost equivalent to completing all constellations and even if it may be motivating for some players, it's probably gonna have the opposite effect on others

[lusty flax]

i don't think they would lose anything if they a) make hearts more easy to obtain if they don't lower the prices, or b) lower the prices in general

[tulip veldt]

(meeanwhile, when you get to the end of scr and you are missing half a candle:)

[rich silo]

I don't think the prices need to be lowered, they're pretty reasonable
but obtainment method improvement yes

[tulip veldt]

i think it's pretty obvious that this is a long term addition to aviary, not meant to be obtainable during the course of the season and something to be worked on for a while

[rich silo]

~~when will they add the rest of the elder masks I swear to god ~~

[lusty flax]

so true they've been on vacation for too long

[tulip veldt]

maybe we can have...shared shared spaces! which you can combine inventories with a friend 🙂

[covert bison]

I agree about more ways to get hearts…
Maybe they can let you earn some amount of hearts from guiding players to spirits. It could be abused with alts but that is already against tos and it could help moths not be ignored

[tulip veldt]

aka: the roommate update 🙂

[lusty flax]

i was thinking maybe like, every day you meditate and receive a heart or something? i think maybe why they're hesitant to make hearts more easily obtainable is what u mentioned with the alts breaking tos, i'm trying to think of a workaround for that

maybe after reset there's a heart or smth scattered around the map where you gotta do dailies?

[rich silo]

it has to involve other players helping you is a core component of hearts

[lusty flax]

true! maybe apart from the four seasonal candle dailies, there could be a separate daily quest to do involving players in some form, that would grant you a heart

[covert bison]

Maybe opening multi player doors could give heart pieces

[lusty flax]

ooooo, no more evil chibis leaving me at the 8 player vault door

[somber oyster]

Maybe it can have something to do with Aviary: after turning in your dailies at the Spirit Café in Aviary, the OG quest giver grants you a heart for helping the spirits with their quests

[rich silo]

mmmmm
I don't think so....
but a mini fetch quest of some kind could work? like a group activity centered in aviary

[somber oyster]

Idk I think it’s pretty cute, might go well with reworking the dailies system. Quest giver closes the shop and gives you a heart, very cute!

Your idea is nice too, but doesn’t seem very accommodating to solo players in the long run maybe

[lusty flax]

here have a coffee and a heart 😌

[tulip veldt]

(its a latte with a heart on top)

[rich silo]

well if they force matchmaking in aviary then it could work out honestly

[vale temple]

I hope our house has some wood floors in em like the furniture is made of wood. So long as it doesn't look like the passage masks wood

[rich silo]

it is cute but it's more like
you didn't really do anything to help the QG so why would they give you a heart

[echo mauve]

For helping others and the fact the you did warms their heart and decide to reward you

[rich silo]

....but they usually don't gift hearts for that kind of reason
like idk if you already get 4 candles from dailies why would you get the heart on top of it it feels lackluster

[rose schooner]

What

[echo mauve]

I dont see whats lackluster about it? Its a nice reward for you having helped out all of the spirits who had a quest

[rose schooner]

Did anyone invite me?

[rich silo]

and you already got the reward from the spirits so why would you get another
sky has never really given rewards in that style

[limber nacelle]

I think we're looking too deep into this situation. Skybot about to post a "LOOK FAM, IT'S NOT THAT DEEP" picture.

...or not. That was lackluster.

[rich silo]

like hearts from past seasons are because you completed a big story point in order to progress there
hearts from basegame spirits are just there, hearts from TS are because the hearts from past seasons worked towards ults
like they have meaning and you have to work towards them in some way

heart from QG is like well you did nothing

[echo mauve]

I do think its not that deep plus a daily heart is just nice in general after helping all the spirits and the guide just wants to thank you for helping them all out

[rich silo]

you already get thanked by the individual spirits so why does the qg owe you anything, they're just serving the spirits

[echo mauve]

Because you where nice to their customers?

In terms of the world of sky itself the skid could just chose not to help out but we do and thats a nice gesture that the quest giver also appreciates

[rich silo]

idk to a regular player it's like "oh sweet free heart without doing any work" they wouldn't look at it that way

[limber nacelle]

It's nice to see that the Quest giver returned in some form. I know some folks were upset they were gone but hey, here they are. Serving up a nice cup of joe for their customer spirits.

[echo mauve]

Irs not free work if you have to complete all the quests first???

[rich silo]

as I said, you already get a reward for the quests, which is a candle each

[echo mauve]

Idk if im badly expressing what im saying or not at this point since i dont think my points beings heard all to well.

[uncut ginkgo]

I'd take this since hearts as a currency still feel like too much of a grind and also outdated in a way

[echo mauve]

We cpuld also easily just implement a quest that the quest giver gives you themselves and you get a heart from that

[rich silo]

I just don't think it's meaningful if you get a bonus heart out of nowhere for completing dailies like
you're already grinding for candles it's not that deep
and the concept of sky is to give to others, so you use those candles to give hearts to others, that's why it's a heart

therefore the guide you didn't do anything for, so it's like why would you just get a free one for doing nothing, you didn't help them specifically, you only helped the spirits

ALSO
homespace players wouldn't see this at all, it's just a rock shrine so what's the benefit

[lusty flax]

what do u guys think, about after reset, there will be a sky animal like a manta or a jellyfish that's stuck in a dark plant or needs help with something else, and after you assist them whether it needs a player or on your own, you receive a heart?

or your heart meter gets filled quite a bt

[echo mauve]

Ohhh thay could be super cute!!!

[covert bison]

I think the aviary spirits should give different quests than the daily quests

[heady bough]

Honestly I would suggest to lower the heart prices since the game tells you to give them to your friends but stuff being so expensive in hearts says the opposite

[rich silo]

ah good ol free the manta daily that got fixed then never returned

[heady bough]

For example some capes cost 50 hearts you would need 50 friends to randomly give you 50 hearts that's very unlikely to happen unless you make trades with them

[lusty flax]

it could be like, oooohhh skidssss i heard there's a mantatee that needs heeeelppppp, you could get a heartttt

[echo mauve]

Or heck maybe we could have hearts be resetted on quest spirits. youd still have to relive the quests to regain the hearts to make it fair

[past robin]

It could be something as simple as a new multiplayer puzzle/quest/game. Whether it’s a daily thing, or an every other day thing, or it’s in the same map as cakes. And those who choose to help all get a heart. Something like assembly quests. Those who want to do it will receive a heart. And those who don’t need hearts don’t have to participate.

[echo mauve]

A d reliving spirits is a big aspect of the game and could be fun for players whod like to relive the seasons again in a way

[rich silo]

stares in the distance the people who just stand around getting thrown by the wigglyboi and don't help and thus the shard can't be completed in peaks and all those who just piggyback on red shards and only swoop in at the end

[lusty flax]

@ / cy those people will say things like "i did SOO much you are SO welcome"

[rich silo]

I curse them in my heart every time

special hatred shoutout to the people who never help on carry quests and only swoop by to log the quest then do something else

[lusty flax]

omg, or what do you yall think of within the aviary shops, you could help the spirits within them cleanup the shop or clutter, and you can perhaps find a heart buried beneath some clutter

[past robin]

There will always be those kind of people. Or the people who purposely don’t help in 8 player elevator/oreo area. I don’t think there’s much we can do about that (unfortunately). But I feel like a puzzle/game that you can choose to do makes the most sense. But I’m also out of caffeine so what do I know

[rich silo]

tbh I look at that like wow who buried their murder here

but yeah the reason I'm against just being able to get the thing as is is like
like hearts are hard to earn for a reason and it has to match up to that and involve community, not just spirits
like sky is a social game and earning it through the help of other players is a core part of gameplay

like if you just find a heart randomly without doing much then it's like the heck what was the point
like it takes away from how (though tedious) sky makes you grind for that

like the payoff needs to match the investment

[lusty flax]

cy how would u feel instead of just gaining a heart, your heart meter fills up kinda considerably after completing these hypothetical scenarios?

[balmy tapir]

Hearts are meant to encourage social interactions, making them just another grindable currency kind of misses the point

[rich silo]

I'd be good with that, it'd be less OP

[vale temple]

I still think there needs to be a middle ground. Like yeah interacting and socializing and getting extra hearts would be a way to speed it up, but I think there should be a way for players to get them if they don't want to directly trade or make more friends to speed up light piece hearts.

They're a friendship currency and we are friends with spirits. There's no reason I can see why we shouldn't be able to do something to help them all to be able to get even one heart a day or a week at minimum for players who have anxiety or might not want to bother their friends for heart trades.

[rich silo]

sky is anti introvert fr 😔
we all know this because crowd mode is hell lol

[rich silo]

well that's why the shared creations updated where you can get more hearts from other people, like that's a thing
(I do wish it wasn't the only way to go about it tbh)

[somber oyster]

True, hearts are a hard-to-obtain currency. Which is also why I understand that people feel very strongly about the heart costs this season.

I personally think that if SoNesting is integrated in Aviary in a way, it could benefit from lower heart costs.

Shared space creations outside of the work station or other shrines aren’t free either. You have to buy it, and even then there isn’t a guarantee that the space gets enough likes to go global. Social creations aren’t meant to be created to get hearts either

[vale temple]

Yeah I kinda wanted to emphasize helping spirits though to get em. They count towards our do x with a friend quests so I think if some new more elaborate/harder daily quests or something similar were introduced we could do those to either fill our heart meter from them to earn either 1 heart a day or 1 heart a week depending on what TGC would feel is better,

[rich silo]

ya know I made this feedback years ago but like
if making a shared space was a daily that would be nice

[tulip veldt]

i dunno, i am pretty sure that would result in a lot of low-effort ones, and what are people who go in groups gonna do ?

[rich silo]

ooo it could be like
ya know how shattering brought AC outside of eden, I think we could definitely do with an alternate similar method of earning heart fragments in that way instead perhaps?

[vale temple]

Oh maybe going into nesting area it could be like happy home designer we get a prompt from them to design a house layout or something for a particular spirit and use furniture and get a heart/fill the meter a little . Maybe that would be too easy though

[rich silo]

I think we need more dailies that encourage sending hearts or heart gauge fragments to other players, is the gist of it
cuz medi seriously carried that for ages and now it's gone missing

[somber oyster]

As the Daily Quest system is changing, I really think earning heart fragments or hearts through dailies and interaction with Aviary would be beneficial

[somber oyster]

That’s what I meant here ^ too, haha

[limber nacelle]

Me placing exactly one sink in the Spirit's room and immediately expecting a heart fragment:

[vale temple]

"send light to 40 friends in under 10 seconds" reward: 1/2 heart meter fill

[rough lion]

ok, here’s my idea: gaining hearts or light for hearts from helping strangers. specifically other players who you aren’t already friends with. it could be things like lighting someone up who’s been extinguished, helping pick up their lost WLs, other things like that. this would A) keep the social interaction and helping other players aspect of hearts intact B) make collecting hearts easier for solo players, as you wouldn’t have to make friends to do this, just help a stranger C) discourage abusing the system with alts, since you could only get the reward by helping players you haven’t added

[rich silo]

wait listen what if
when it's a friendship daily like high five a friend, that gives light instead of wax
like that makes way more sense to me

INB4 THEY RETURNED THE HELLSCAPE THAT WAS 4 PLAYER HANDHOLD-

[vale temple]

Spirit just sticks a heart sticky note to ur head and makes u go away 🤝

[somber oyster]

It’s kind of similar to the shepherd system from way back, or at least it kind of reminds me of that. But then without the ranking

[vale temple]

The real question is when do we get a mask that's just a piece of paper stuck to our face with a smiley face on it

[rich silo]

that just makes me think of people who make alts to get that going regardless if it requires strangers specifically like
you can just merge together through a mutual person

[rough lion]

i guess, but that seems like it would be a lot more effort than the current ways of abusing the heart system, which are pretty much just make an alt, add them as a friend, send hearts

[rich silo]

either way ppl will break tos if they want to 😔 (we should move on from this topic though)

I'm gonna hold out hope since they added 50+ props that they have some idea of how to address the currently 500+ heart cost of props that doesn't solely rely on shared creations because not everyone (me) regularly uses them in live to begin with
cuz right now it seems heavily leaning into shared spaces in that way

[limber nacelle]

(Is it really 500+ hearts?)

[rich silo]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
I've been doing the math, though my main intent was to show how the lower cost items have more value since they're cheaper and more numerous

[lusty flax]

oh lord have mercy

[rich silo]

it's a lot 😂

[limber nacelle]

Well damn. I'm gonna be losing all my hearts this season then if the costs don't go down.

[terse hemlock]

I'm not sure if I'm softlocked out of the season or hard locked out of the season or what but I can't get into the furniture shop because I haven't completed through the first four quest at aviary and the aviary guide is stuck and won't give me the second quest so I'm not sure what's going on. Is this bug? Or am I missing something somewhere that I need to complete for the second aviary quest? I'm unsure what is going on

[spiral needle]

Happy Revival to Aviary, Happy Revival to Aviary, Happy Revival, Happy Revival..! Happy Revival to Aviary!

[covert bison]

Try going into the first building on your right from the friend stars maybe, and if there’s a spirit there try burning it. The guide stopped helping me when I was doing the quests and I was also very confused. 😭Then at a different part it stopped working again and going into every shop then breaking nest lever seemed to complete the quest. If it isn’t any trouble for you, maybe you can take video for Sof since she is interested in the new aviary quest system?

[somber oyster]

Yeah from Burd’s video it seems like Enchantment is hiding in their shop . You can find the spirit there indeed - I’m super curious for the changes!! But I also hope you’re able to complete the quests so you can participate in the season 😭

[covert bison]

If it doesn’t work then I’m wondering if the quest order is the same for old accounts and when they changed the order in the new update whether something broke

[terse hemlock]

#beta-screenshots-videos

[covert bison]

Oh I see that shop isn’t open for you yet

[terse hemlock]

it was previously. i was able to enter and do the first quest

[somber oyster]

Ohhh! Hmmm. Did you revive Rhythm guide? And burn all the plants in the hairshop?

[covert bison]

Do you remember what quests you’ve done so far (like the spirit for the hair shop or candle collection)

[terse hemlock]

i finished the first aviary quest and i can enter the hair stylist but thats it

[spiral needle]

I’ve been missing the Rhythm guide recently, and I don't know why... can we pay them a visit?

[terse hemlock]

i can't seem to be able to start the second quest or relive the first quest

[somber oyster]

Oh, so weird! What if you restart your game, and then try Quest 3 (so lighting the candles at the bell shrine to the right of the entrance)?

[terse hemlock]

i can't even get to the third quest with the bell shrine. i need to do the enchantment guide second quest but its not letting me start it.

[somber oyster]

Burd said that they had to do the bell shrine quest before enchantment for some reason! Is there any prompt to start anything there?

So strange!!!

[covert bison]

In the new update they made the bell shrine before the enchantment spirit and the guide helped me so maybe the update has messed it up for older accounts that started in the old order

[terse hemlock]

that'd be super weird but i'll give it a try and see if theres anything there. i send what i'm seeing in the aviary guide's menu in #beta-screenshots-videos and i''ll see if the bell shrine comes first

[somber oyster]

Oh yeah! The second quest already started, I hope by logging in again it works for you (either the enchantment hut opens, or the bell shrine thing will work) 🍀

That will be a fun bug report 🤣

[terse hemlock]

thats what i was hoping but i can open and close the app or leave and reenter aviary as much as i want but theres nothing around the bell shrine and theres no statue for enchantment guide nor the shop or furnature store open

i was hoping to avoid a bug report and it was something fixable with some community help but i'm starting to think i might need to fold and submit as a bug

[somber oyster]

Yeah…. That seems like something that shouldn’t be happening 😭. Have you tried pulling the lever from the nest house thingy? (It worked for Burd)

[terse hemlock]

in reference to burd's message in screenshots: my account isn't new. i've had a beta account for almost 2 years i just haven't been active in beta until a month ago. i started my beta account early 2022 or late 2021 and got through the realms up until i needed to go to eden then quit because android bugs were really bad

[terse hemlock]

all that does is break the lever. it doesnt open anything or let me do either enchantment or candle shrine quests

[covert bison]

The nest lever seemed to help in a later quest (after enchantment) when the guide broke and stopped helping again

[somber oyster]

Ah sucks! I would definitely send in a bug report about it, as beta players right now are unable to make local / new / alt accounts, there are but a few testers who actually experience this bug. So I highly suggest letting the devs know. Hopefully you can play the season soon 😭

[covert bison]

I think maybe it’s because your account is older and the order of the quests has changed after you activated the quest (so the one you activated can’t be done anymore). I hope it can be fixed soon so you can play the season

Yeah I can’t access the moth account now or make a new one to double check

[hearty wigeon]

Are some people able to open the nest door??

[somber oyster]

Nooo sorry my wording was wrong, breaking the lever somehow helped Burd’s moth account progress in aviary quests 🤣 there is no logic to beta sometimes

[covert bison]

Well I don’t know that for sure but it seemed to

[brave tangle]

There was a doot? 👀✨

[covert bison]

I think the changes happened in 0.25.0 249731 (update that brought the season and mentioned changes to new player experiences) but my video is from current build 251199 when I was briefly able to make a new account, i wasn’t able to before or since then (so no update at least for me sorry for the confusion)

[brave tangle]

Oh i get it xd i got so excited that we can finally open our little nest tho 🥲 lets hope its soon xd

[modern spruce]

It takes forever 😔

[dawn barn]

just to confirm, we are gonna get cosmetics for days of nesting right>

[vale temple]

Ults have been confirmed I know that. But that could also mean props.

Sagomay said ults would be a thing in a past message.....

#beta-season-test-chat message

They've been confirmed 💀 we don't know what they are but they will be there.

[stiff sundial]

what ults?

[open sparrow]

#beta-screenshots-videos message I'm so glad other people feel the same, the wallface gives me trypophobia with all the windows I hope the design is just a placeholder and that it will be updated! I may submit a few alternate designs as feedback

[uncut ginkgo]

Can anyone please explain what are UGs?

[orchid knot]

Ultimate gifts, the items we receive from the season guide after completing all the season spirit trees (the items cost season hearts and aren't due to return after the season ends)

The current deer season in live for example has the guide hair, pants, and cape as ults

[keen hare]

Me wondering when we’ll get double cosmetics and cheaper TS prices

[cosmic vine]

well, double the zero still equals zero, so i think nesting won't leave you disappointed

[rich silo]

so after some research
total t2 cape cost was 729 hearts at the time of dropping
prop workshop is currently at 542 hearts

will it grow to about 700 hearts by the end of it

[atomic spade]

I'm sure there will be kids who will be sad to not buy many pieces of furniture 🥺 I have to do cr hard and share hearts with my friends on live

[rich silo]

I might actually ask around to see if I can heart trade again just in case cuz man
this is getting real close to my current max count 😂

[shy rock]

I would love to see a pendant display as one of the ults (like the one shown in the workshop). You could display different pendants that you own. It would make sense as an ult because you have to have a pass to be able to get the seasonal hearts for it.

The prop workshop is at 542 hearts?! I don't even have that on my Live main account anymore 😥

[rich silo]

currently yeah
don't know if even more will get added

[odd gust]

There's already a good bit of furniture, isn't there? 💀

like, idk if they'll do cosmetics for the seasons any but I've seen a good amt of furniture from the beta pics channel- idk what else they could think of

[rich silo]

there's still the ults (2-4) and two missing spots on two of the spirit trees

[somber oyster]

@ripe spire Hi there, I deleted your message. Please don’t discuss leaked or hacked content here; if you saw this on another app, please report the user to Stellify in DMs.

Thank you!

[rich silo]

will talk in #beta-discussion since that's the chat for this 🏃

[true blaze]

Haven’t been on in awhile and can’t figure out how to get to the new season. I might be dense.

[somber oyster]

Have you started at least the 4th Revival quest?

[true blaze]

Ruh roh…perhaps not. I need to do Eden don’t I? Thank you!! 👻💕

[somber oyster]

No you don’t! You have to at least start the 4th quest (meaning you just have to make sure the quest is “active”).

But for now: can you see the seasonal intro in homespace and until where did you progress in the Revival season?

[true blaze]

Revival is for aviary, correct? I just checked, i did the first 5 quests for that. I did see the seasonal intro. I went to the left in aviary where there’s a play button. ▶️ but then nothing happens once i press.

[somber oyster]

Ohhhh! You need to go into the shop across from the Rhythm shop

(If that wasn’t entirely clear to you, definitely leave some beta feedback about it. The season starts in a new shop that opened!)

[true blaze]

Oook! Thank you. I will do all of the above and appreciate your guidance.

[orchid knot]

Am I the only one who keeps running past the season workshop I do it less so than originally but sometimes I'm just on autopilot following the paths and run straight past

[tulip veldt]

are all of the items we can use now in the shop? I wonder what would happen if they kind of change daily thru different ones like say, nook shop

[rich silo]

I'm gonna keep checking until the rotation resets, not sure how far it'll go

[crisp cedar]

Hopefully more colourful furniture appears.

[vale temple]

It would be cute to have a table with a plate of bunny cut apple slices and butterfly perched on one.

[waxen oyster]

Not seeing any changes to the season

[orchid knot]

pink candles in the workshop I hope that's not a missing texture and we're actually getting pink candles because they're so so pretty

[waxen oyster]

Yeah love the candles! But man they didn’t update the diamond

[high atlas]

Ohh they put the different buttons for the shared spaces in a pull down menu. That's so nice!

[waxen oyster]

Where I’m mainly concerned about not being able to refresh the shared spaces

[glacial falcon]

Is anyone else experiencing not beng able to progress quest from the Steward?
I really want to see the new season it looked so fun! 😭

[golden ore]

Which quest are you stuck at?

[covert bison]

I saw some other players having this problem too

[austere flume]

^ I’ve been reading every bug report as they come out. It seems like new players and accounts who didn’t interact with Aviary or its quests before the first patch that added Nesting content have been getting softlocked at quest 2. It’s possibly due to some changes with the Enchantment spirit, like where their relive statue is placed(?)
This is really bad and I hope this sequence issue gets resolved before shipment, otherwise any players who are in the group that start in Aviary may not be able to progress in the game naturally. Possibly even participate in the season. Assuming that AB group split for new players starting in Aviary still exists.

[covert bison]

The other day I tried making a new live account to see what was different about the aviary intro and it started me in the home space so maybe a/b testing is continuing (I don’t know the difference between them but I thought one starts you in aviary)

[covert bison]

I agree… Idk how I briefly managed to make a moth beta account but there have been changes to the aviary quest order. (Location of the enchantment spirit is changed to indoors, bell fixing is now before enchantment quest) so maybe that’s the problem for older players who didn’t finish aviary having their progression locked

[austere flume]

It will be a serious issue if it hits live. Like, almost gamestopping issue, since new accounts from a certain time window may be roadblocked so early and some players who were inactive or chose not to interact with Aviary (i know this was a real demographic at some point before event shops were implemented in Aviary only) may get blocked out of season participation. So I hope a resolution is reached/development is aware.

[covert bison]

Freshly made accounts are at least able to progress to isle, but players with older accounts made before the change are saying they can’t progress and won’t be able to play the season (the guide on the new account wasn’t helping me but I managed to do the quests)

[orchid knot]

aww why do we only get to place one wooden bed but you can place two stone beds

[covert bison]

Spirits cut too many trees and there is a wood shortage…

[glacial falcon]

I'm stuck with 2nd quest which is the enchantment guide, so the problem most likely stem from there.

[covert bison]

Did you do quest one recently or a while ago?/can you post video of what happens?

[glacial falcon]

I have done the first quest two days ago and I don’t know how to show you the full screen of the video without parts of it being invisible

[covert bison]

It’s ok, I’m also wondering is your account old? 2 days ago is after the change in quests happened I think

[austere flume]

This issue started as soon as Nesting content was implemented #beta-bugs-ios message

[rich silo]

The update killed my shared space again so it's time to make a new one I guess

[waxen oyster]

I saw yours after the update Cy, you just gotta rename it

[rich silo]

Yeah I mean like, I have to republish it, but I'd rather just design something new as an excuse it's fun

[waxen oyster]

Haha yes that makes sense

[glacial falcon]

The account is when the last beta invite happened so maybe 6 months?

[rich silo]

It's also fun to see others find my shared space

[urban coral]

I dont seem to get much of a refresh of new spaces. I see like the same 10 - 12 over and over. Also pretty much crash after like going thru 15-20. Want to find all the cool creations :/

[waxen oyster]

Yeah and I’m actually enjoying the comments both on my shared space and on others’

[covert bison]

If you can, you should send a bug report with this info so that the developers can be aware of the problem and fix it. I hope you will be able to finish the steward and play the season soon

[waxen oyster]

They did increase the limit just a bit

[past robin]

I still can’t click on a piece of furniture/prop in my shared space to rearrange or delete it. I have to clear the whole thing and start from scratch. 😭

[glacial falcon]

Have submitted a bug report so just waiting! 😭👍

[orchid knot]

Made a new shared space, it’s simple but beautiful

[waxen oyster]

They recently changed how that’s done. In live you tap on a hand icon to change the position of a prop. In this update you just tap on the furniture for the menu that changes the location to appear

[past robin]

Tapping on the furniture doesn’t do anything for me unfortunately.

[urban coral]

I hope that dresser is placable in all shared spaces and becomes the item everybody uses in their rando shared spaces that are strew all over the realms. Be nice to change outfits or back props on the go.

[spiral lodge]

Hoping the ult of the season isn’t like
Actual cosmetics

[rich silo]

Ngl I hope one of the ults is also furniture that would be funny
Like had enough of them? HAVE ONE MORE

[spiral lodge]

Key prop

[rich silo]

Keyblade

[spiral lodge]

Key weapon

[rich silo]

Unlock everyone's shoelaces

[ancient jay]

Maybe the real Kingdom Hearts is the nests we made along the way

[rich silo]

Imagine if it's a chair hairstyle like a pompadour but it's an upside down chair

[spiral lodge]

Chair cape when

[flat gulch]

Nah, table cape

[rich silo]

I made chair and sofa cape happen with my second shared space build

[rich silo]

Put them in every red shard location like "did you forget your elder mask well look no further change right here"

[golden ore]

Have it handy when one elder mask breaks then switch to another one on the spot.

[rich silo]

If only we could make shared spaces in Eden that would be so clutch

[limber nacelle]

That could be too OP for Eden.

[rich silo]

I already just close the game and reopen to get to stormlocked closet and switch 🏃

[fervent marsh]

guys

anyone knows days of nature hair price predition?🥹

[brave tangle]

Wait there is a dresser? 👁️👁️

[cloud ocean]

Yes #beta-screenshots-videos message

[brave tangle]

Thank you

[fast crest]

Guys few hours ago I saw someone list out all the hearts prices for furniture like 30 times 8 blah blah blah

Does anyone have that list

[somber oyster]

We ask beta players to withhold on making price guides, or guides and maps in general. This means there aren’t any guides available anymore.

[fast crest]

Ahh that makes sense on why I can't find it anymore

[rich silo]

it wasn't meant to be a guide but it could be easily interpreted as one yeah
you can still screenshot the UI yourself and count it out tbh, just don't post it

[snow storm]

Guys, i saw that closet and i was immediately underwhelmed by it cuz i thought it would be a closet where we can put our desired stuff into

But i had an idea, what if this closet works kinda like a "Favorite Cosmetics" section, where you can put only the ones you desire inside it?

[somber oyster]

What closet?

[snow storm]

the closet mechanic from the new update

[rich silo]

there's a new prop that behaves like a closet, it looks like the old long table cabinet
#beta-screenshots-videos message

it's bugged for me though and only shows 4 places to sit instead of the closet icons

[somber oyster]

Ahhhhh okay!

[rich silo]

sof can I dm you

[snow storm]

Like, as it's a closet, i thought it would be great if you could put only the stuff you want inside it

Instead of just having the entire list of cosmetics with you everywhere you place it 😭

[shy rock]

Fingers crossed: Quest 2 has the guide bring us to that board in the back and it behaves like three quests in one

I see the UI for many of the props have icons now and that makes me very happy!

[bleak mural]

#beta-screenshots-videos message I also prefer the candles from before, but I like the bigger changed furniture a lot better!

[covert bison]

Wow the furniture changes look very nice, more like the technology I expect in sky! I agree the old candles were better and it seems the candles being pink is a texture issue since they’re white in the room

[bleak mural]

buut, now that I think of it, the candle bunch on the shop's counter has different candle shapes than ours... might be a bit of a stretch, but maybe we'll be able to change the candle type? :0

[cunning hearth]

no more drawers 🫡

[bleak mural]

I like this new style of the new furniture a lot, it has a lot of character to it :D and fits with the rest more now!

[cunning hearth]

honestly im amazed when it comes to these kinds of designs, as a modern man, i could not comprehend and design what constitutes as traditional without doing research into it

[somber oyster]

Haha, I bought the music sheet but unfortunately it didn’t show up in my inventory AND I was able to “buy it again”. So it just took 15 hearts

[bleak mural]

the stock of furniture seems to have gone up to 50 now... out of 53 basegame ones
does that mean we won't have any free ones?

[somber oyster]

You didn’t get the free ones in one of the last builds?

[bleak mural]

I did! I'm just counting for them haha
I meant moreso like... a "starter pack" of furniture we immediately have

[somber oyster]

Ah okay then it’s probably they’re just not showing up because you got them

Huh? Ah you mean in the showroom?

[bleak mural]

I really thought we'd get at least a dozen of the base game furniture the moment we got our house so we could use those, but it seems we may not get that

[somber oyster]

I think it’s too early to tell because the Nest isn’t open yet, and it’s just the showroom we can do things with.

If you mean the showroom not having all featured props: that’s possible, I had to buy shelves. I wouldn’t think it’s because we won’t get those items, but more that it’s probably a bug in beta

Good reminder for everyone that when anything feels off, not intentional, weird: please send in a bug report!

[bleak mural]

no no, I mean, again, having a bunch of simple base game furniture being immediately available to us when we unlock our nest, because that would make more sense than having to buy all of it, but given that now the amount of things you can buy in the shop almost perfectly coincides with the amount of base game furniture, I'm thinking we might indeed get 0 furniture for free

but yeah, it's still all WIP as usual, so we'll see what happens!

[somber oyster]

I don’t think so; you already took the free furniture so it makes sense for those items to not show up.

I’m not sure I follow the reasoning . They don’t show up for me in the shop, because I already bought them

[ancient jay]

Yeah, I still have pings going on in the instrument closet but nothing new is there

[balmy wind]

I hope they give us the option to buy the “modern” kitchen too 🥲

[orchid knot]

Wait, there's a music sheet?

[somber oyster]

Yes and no! Yes it shows as text, but no you don’t receive it if you buy it Kotoeri showed it here too: #beta-screenshots-videos message

[untold jacinth]

I'm asking a genuine question: what is the point of buying the next season pass? Eventually building in our homes may become a little redundant, with nothing from the season to show for it. Currently there are no cosmetics or emotes which was a large factor in why the sky community didn't like shattering that much. I personally don't understand why they would do that again

But I'm a sucker for cosmetics so I would atleast like to see something more than just the season pendant.

Also, what is there to do in the season? decorate a home which costs so much. So in the mean time, what will the sky kids be doing outside of that? There is no enotes or outfits or even any replay value it looks like.
And in terms of saving for the new furniture, it is time consuming with a lackluster of ways to earn hearts.

This is just my opinion so far, and I don't think it's going to be one of sky's most memorable seasons. It just looks like an update more than a season.

[limber nacelle]

Even moreso that new players who join will only get a select few pieces of furniture. It's just unfair that we're looking at like a potential 500 heart catalog of furniture and new players will just be watching the older players buy most of what they can afford. It's a lose-lose situation. As someone who has about 430+ something hearts in Live I'm already dreading the fact that, while it will be there forever presumably to buy, it just feels like a taunt to me to get what I can to express myself.

I like expressing myself as a heroic figure, so like, I got all the things I needed in terms of cosmetics already since Light Whisperer showed up in Live, but expressing myself through props doesn't do quite as much justice as if I were wearing cosmetics.

I don't know, this season leaning on props heavily is a leap of faith on TGC's part, it feels like they're trying something new but at the same time we've been over shared spaces quite a lot now. That's 3 seasons worth of content specifically about shared spaces.

I want more seasons that lean into the old fundamentals of Sky, such as why everyone is generous and altruistic towards one another, (if you read some of the hints about Sky, it says everyone is brought together by a spirit of generosity.) I want to know some more about this "spirit of generosity".

Not only that, I want to know things like why Eden is not so habitable and that one day there's a discovery of a lost group of spirits that tried making their own home there, stuff like that.

I'll send more feedback later when I edit this down to a piece of feedback, but yeah.

[balmy tapir]

I don't really mind there not being emotes, we already have so many of them. Shattering had really impressive cosmetics at the very least, and revival ones were pretty good too.
This furniture-only season doesn't inspire me much either. How often do you change your room layout compared to how often do you change your outfits

[crisp cedar]

I think that if the items are going to cost hearts, then there should be more events that give you hearts. You can light friends, do heart trades (skybot I'm not promoting this, so don't ding me ) but that will be hard for newbies or even people who just casually play this game.

I did like shattering in that it gave you ascending candles in a different way. Maybe if there was a daily event where you could gain hearts that would help a little.

[balmy tapir]

They changed how hearts from shared creations work so you bet they're banking on that

[cobalt solstice]

I'd also love more lore and story telling of the origins of sky with characters and emotes that make sense. At least if we are doing a prop season of household items we should have some emotes like brushing teeth and hair or tucking a friend into bed emote with friendship tree 😂

[astral magnet]

whats going on with the changes to the furniture? they were all just straight up downgraded no more cute kitchen...

[rough lion]

a lot of people felt like the furniture looked too modern and out of place in sky, so i think the changes were addressing that

although i agree that the little cluster of candles got a big downgrade, not sure why those were changed

[tidal willow]

hmm
if they're planning to add a lot of furniture (esp the ones costing hearts), they could add both more modern look for those who crave it and the less modern look

[cloud ocean]

This is probably an odd way to do it but… why not have some furniture cost hearts and some cost candles..? Maybe some others can cost Eden candles?

[willow eagle]

I guess there is a place for the modern furniture, but I want it to fit with sky.
The old furniture is okay but to me it look like something from brutalist concrete furniture.

[mighty gale]

There are still two props that look out of place to me; the wood electric looking lamps (cy’s potato log, last picture: #beta-screenshots-videos message )
I wish the lightbulbs would look more like the light orb prop, it would feel like a “magical” light source rather than electricity.
I feedbacked it already but I was wondering if anyone else here felt the same about these lamps?

[rich silo]

They are still just regular orbs though, just that they're on a little pedestal inside the shell

[rich silo]

Tbh I've seen that happen even before I got anything from the workshop (I never bought anything from it) so it's just freaking out as is

[vale temple]

I hope the ults are good since we don't seem to be getting any cosmetics 😥 I also fear how live might react when they see it's all props lol

[mighty gale]

Yeah, the little pedestal looks like a lightbulb socket, then the cable like an electric cable, I can’t unsee it 💡

[golden ore]

I think that is supposed to be a ceiling lamp.

[rich silo]

tfw you're trying to build a helicopter and it's conflicting with ceiling lamp

[past robin]

Noooo 😭

[devout venture]

Random thought that came to mind about hearts but wanted to throw it in chat before feedbacking it

I as a solo player, even if ive been around for a while, struggle to get hearts regularily but i also stop and help skids who are looking around for spirits when i can. What if (at a maximum cap of 6 daily but better lower like 3) if you take one player who is asking for help finding a spirit (with the button) through at least one spirit in a realm they havent got and then up to the temple you are awarded a heart for taking the time to help out other players.

[rich silo]

casey go to bed

[echo mauve]

I think this would be super cute honestly!! And itd give players i guess a bigger incentive to actually help those requesting where spirits are (on another note i see your a fellow...stuck at home person 😏)

[devout venture]

( im am forever trapped at home yes )

But yeah its very bare bones but would be a concept to flood the heart market for those who are worried and also not really easily farmable by alts (im not endorsing them skybot)

[orchid knot]

I do wonder though, it could be exploitable with alts if people created them just to guide a "new player" around to gain a heart - I may just be thinking cynically though

I do hope for more ways to get hearts from interacting with other players though since they're meant as a more meaningful currency and it would encourage players to interact more often maybe even with newer players who do feel a little lost when they're just starting out

[rich silo]

staging shared space with actual skids:
staging shared space with pots, vases, and lanterns as lil characters instead:

[devout venture]

thats fair. thats sorta why i prompted the two restrictions of a daily limit and having to manually guide the player fully to the temple. its prbbly programmable but it will take a bit of effort to do that ^^;

[covert bison]

Id like this and heart fragments for helping strangers with doors (maybe more needed players at the door=more fragments?) Can encourage helping others at certain places where chibis often skip. Or helping with Oreo=1 heart. Many moths get ignored trying to summon him

[orchid knot]

Heart fragments at doors would be wild cause so many people would stop chibi falling inside for once

[devout venture]

plausible with daily limits in place yeah

oh no imagine. heart chevrons

[rough lion]

i think at the end of the day, literally any way of gaining hearts that involves interaction with other players can potentially be abused - i don’t think this is a reason to not have new social ways of gaining hearts

[covert bison]

Probably only earn fragments once per door each day. Kind of like collecting candle wax, helping other players in sky could slowly increase heart bar. (Sorry for so many typos I’m tired out lately )

[rich silo]

mandatory fragments at 4 player doors in vault please I beg
that would get people to actually help

[devout venture]

devs could possibly coincide the update with this seasons release as a way to continue the exploration idea Aviary started so it still sorta tied back in

open doors to find (buy) furniture!! key=door hunting

[drifting eagle]

Does this season have seasonal cosmetics for our characters or only props and furniture (so far)?

[covert bison]

I think only props so far besides the seasonal necklace

[drifting eagle]

Okay I see, thank you

[rich silo]

still missing two nodes on spirit trees n ults so ye

[open sparrow]

Two player doors open automatically when there's someone already inside (at least in prairie) I wonder if the same mechanic can be applied to four-player doors to combat the vault problem

[rich silo]

Man now I want to build a crane but I've already completed the current build

[hallow pendant]

Is it just me or are the plants upside down

[slow kite]

Is the beta server full rn?

[brave tangle]

Yup, or at least thats what others has been saying

[slow kite]

dang i need to wait tomorrow, and checking if its not full or no 😦

[brave tangle]

Pff well good luck for that xd and remember not season related topic should go to “beta testing discussion”

[echo mauve]

Okay but thats so relatable i once scolded a chibi for trying to clip through the ground when all we needed is them for the 4 player doors and it was so frustrating. They did end up helping but it took allot of me emote scolding them 😤

[somber oyster]

Yeah, you can check what’s currently being tested in #beta-announcements! We only saw the first quest though

[covert bison]

@burnt coral no cosmetics so far, besides the season pendant, only props are added

[rich silo]

there are no cosmetics in beta for nesting
if you see those posts, report them to @/Stellify in dms

[dusk willow]

Skykea uniform when? Sky blue + white instead of blue and yellow

[rich silo]

chibi outfit is the ikea bag cuz they are small enough to fit in those
just put two holes in the bottom

[rich silo]

okay but listen that bag can also store a BLÅHAJ and that's what it's all about

[tulip veldt]

we do need a BLÅHAJ for plushie mini golf

[rich silo]

omw to draw sky BLÅHAJ plushie 🏃
I need a break after staring at this bg illustration for hours lol

[tulip veldt]

you could launch it at the hole like a dart

[rich silo]

pere hand over your beta skid you will do the launching

[tulip veldt]

oh uh, hang on

[rich silo]

(if not it's okay, I'll just draw another mothy skid XD)

[tulip veldt]

there you go in screenshots

i guess i could make a better blahaj outfit 🙂

[rich silo]

can I dm you to show the general scene sketch?

[tulip veldt]

sure

[somber oyster]

#beta-screenshots-videos message regarding early Aviary testing: at that time, so many people (myself included) thought Q3 changed too much.

It was dark, gloomy, the area didn’t have music yet and everything was super grey. Then we literally just lit 3 candles and BOOM: mantas, birds, super happy music, light, flying boats.

It didn’t make sense to have such an immense effect just by lighting 3 candles . It may look good now that we had soooo many good changes to the Aviary to compare it to, but at the time it really didn’t feel right.

As Aviary is constantly improving, definitely head to #beta-feedback if you have thoughts about it

[tulip veldt]

hey when i am done with my live dialies, can someone do the friend passes along dailies to me in beta to see how that goes?

[past robin]

If I’m still on when you log on, feel free to come find me!

[somber oyster]

Ping me when if needed

[tulip veldt]

@sof can i try it with you ?

[orchid knot]

broken ping

[somber oyster]

Yes logging in! Oops I just saw because I wasn’t pinged

[tulip veldt]

weird

[somber oyster]

Bubba can you come online I already did quests and can’t give Pere quests (if you have time!!!!)

[tulip veldt]

you guys have no idea how hard it is to not click on that shrine over there

[orchid knot]

Oh yeah omw!

[orchid knot]

Automatic brain see button brain wanna click, I feel you

[tulip veldt]

have you done quests yet today?

[warm ocean]

Can anyone see the new items in their closet once we buy them? I bought a bunch of things from the "spirits" but I have no idea what I bought because I couldn't see them in the tree and still can't in the closet to even take them out and set them down to look at (I understand the icons are still WIP).
How do I find out what they are to be able to comment on them?