lore-discussion-spoilers

[frigid tinsel]

You joke but there’s blokes who believe that

[keen shore]

God I wish that was me

[graceful oasis]

Megabird is a local collection of stars, mantas, birds, jellyfish, and light… I think it’s a collective will and not a full entity…

[keen shore]

Waaa woo wooo mrouu ?

[raw crypt]

ome of those accouns dedicated to positing webkinz and beanie babies, soft and warm like lighgt

[keen shore]

Manta steals your phone while you’re using it and posts 10 blurry selfies of themselves in various stages of eating said phone

[gleaming glacier]

That is what the Flight spirits deal with daily

[frigid tinsel]

re: my thoughts on Megabird: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[keen shore]

So if Megabird has ancestor memories, then presumably they’d know how to use social media if you gave them a device, what would they post on it

[graceful oasis]

Ya imagine just the Ancestor spirits trash talking each other

[eternal totem]

Looks at spirittwt

[wheat cypress]

Woahhhhhh... what an image. Where's it from?

[graceful oasis]

Points at the corner of the image IGN video I guess.

[wheat cypress]

OK fine so maybe I'm not the most observant person......

[frigid tinsel]

This video in particular: https://youtu.be/i5hCV1CnSxc?t=229

[graceful lance]

I was watching Yu-Gi-Oh and its the Void of Shattering lol

I'll delete this if needed, just thought it was funny

[frigid tinsel]

The Void of Shattering’s humansona

[gleaming glacier]

Yoooo this is beautiful- is it real?

[graceful lance]

Void of Shattering secretly works for Pegasus

[graceful oasis]

And sends people to the shadow realm.

[graceful lance]

literally

[hushed steeple]

Yep. Just like the games story itself, so too did eden castle get blurrier and harder to see over development.

[gleaming glacier]

Kinda upsetting the castle doesn’t look like that anymore, it’s gorgeous

[hushed steeple]

I hear some say villain castle, others say disney castle. It looks like eden crown too. It may be wishful thinking. I say high tech castle.

[graceful oasis]

Eden is the capital of storm

[sharp lichen]

Is that still going??

[dry ivy]

ohhh ahhh why do they do this. I do want to get into this castle and now I want to even more

[graceful oasis]

Ok so…. I been to Eden today. I got a good look at the above of the space that reflects, and let me say there were rocks.
The new space we see has rocks, but it’s more of swirling around… So here is a dumb idea… The Diamond has Layers…

[dry ivy]

I really hope it has intimidatingly long halls, baroque-architecture, and enormously tall and elaborate stained glass windows

[dry ivy]

Sorry I just couldn’t not think of this

[dry ivy]

Jokes aside, do tell— I noticed the sky part of the Void the diamond spirit teleports us to had this water like appearance. It looks like the surface does when you’re underwater almost

[graceful oasis]

The rock swirling is different between both reflective areas, Eden one is very close, you can directly look up and see rocks swirling around, trying join together and then splitting apart. The Space we enter for memories and the event is quite distance from the above….

So in this theory, I can say that the Diamond has layers, and the dimension we enter in Eden is like a top layer somewhere, and the dimension we get send to by the Void is somewhere at a lower level…

This was my dumb idea, thank you for coming to my Ted talk about the Diamond onion

….Reads Bingo card Wait what is Lore chat Alignment.

[frigid tinsel]

this

[graceful oasis]

This somehow makes sense… The other chats probably don’t have this.

[autumn notch]

Poked my head in to feel seen- /lh
Smack dab in the middle of the left side

[graceful oasis]

What is with the /[Insert things]?

[violet sundial]

Tone indicators, that one means “lighthearted”

Ppl mostly use it cus its easy to have what u type interpreted not how u intended

[autumn notch]

Tone indicators! I use them when i get the feeling something I might say may come off as aggressive or not in the way I mean it to. You can look them up and find huge lists.

The one I used, /lh, means light hearted.

I used it bc I don’t regularly use that type of expression with lore chat. Didn’t want to come off as deffensive \o/

[graceful oasis]

I have seen many people type them, and I honestly didn’t know. Thanks guys and honestly I hope my tone comes out through my own text….

[sharp lichen]

That is an interesting observation: Why don't the other chats have this? I can otherstand for #general-sky-discussion and #cozy-sky-discussion, since they're so chaotic. #looking-for-group-live seems to be too focused on candles, and #outfit-requests on cosmetics. You can't really build an alignment chart for basic things such as #questions-and-help and #live-feedback . I'd at least imagine some meta things to be made for #sky-memes , #seasons-events-chat , and maybe #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat , but I haven't seen any.

[graceful oasis]

#sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat is currently several art commissions with daily members of that have the weirdest conversations….

[autumn notch]

Didn’t we get Baudshaw welcoming someone lately? Or am I thinking of the wrong person- cause there were a few folks in like- the last 4 weeks who were new-

mans got bad time-blindness so I could be wrong

[sonic ocean]

none of the other channels really have a community group. there aren't regulars, there are just people passing through, if that makes sense

[sharp lichen]

That mentioning it causes it to be filled out, and I have welcomed someone later, so boom! BINGO!

[violet sundial]

Not at all… fanart sketches chat is somewhat consistent though still not as much as here

[sonic ocean]

wait hold on i'm about to be the funniest person in existence

[sharp lichen]

Fanart sketches chat does seem the closest, but it does seem like a way for art requests, while in lorechat everyone's working together and having a good time. Any other chat's too serious or cluttered

[violet sundial]

I actually don’t like posting there sometimes because conversations are so… impenetrable. If you’re not already there for a while ppl usually just ignore you entirely and it hurts a bit

[sonic ocean]

bingo

[violet sundial]

OI…. BRIISH

[torn eagle]

I remember someone saying that we are very serious around here XD especially when you did math and someone commented yall like professors over ere XD

[wheat cypress]

Ahhhh I remember that

[sharp lichen]

I agree, loremath is fun sometimes. But 90% of the time it's silly conversation

[wheat cypress]

That was an amazing day honestly.... we got a pretty decent formula or two out of that didn't we?

[graceful oasis]

Diamond formulas.

[sharp lichen]

y=(0.5x+0.5)*z, where y is the number of power diamonds, x is the wing sets on the mantas, and z is the number of mantas

[wheat cypress]

Yep I found it in my notes

[torn eagle]

i actually forgot to ask this question

is the 0.5 taken from the mural? I remember there being a 0.5 counted due to the inconsistency of the number of manta wings to number of power diamond ratio

[wheat cypress]

It appears that only the initial wing sets of the mantas count as full units

[torn eagle]

I express my utmost thanks and respect

[wheat cypress]

Why thank you lol

And thus... I must make my exit to get some sneep snorp

[autumn notch]

Oh god there’s numbers- fried my brain immediately

[next terrace]

I wish i landed in this chat earlier tbh thsi is my kind of chaos

[tough coral]

skykid headcanon: artifical/electrical lighting will not only not give skykids any usable light, but will actually kinda mess them up by making them feel like they have more light than they do- this is because "light" in the context of What Skykids Use isn't rlly a scientific thing that's Actual Light, and it's instead an energy that comes with said light

[next terrace]

OOH

That makes so much sense

[torn eagle]

Therell be more chances to sips tea

[graceful oasis]

Get ready for Anything here…

[next terrace]

Ive uncovered the alignment chart and im glad theres just queer on there lmao

[graceful oasis]

So let me see if I can use this…. Sunglasses are beautiful things to block from the burn rays of the sun in sanctuary caves, 10/10 reason to not make eye contact to gosh darn crabs.

[copper saffron]

I think the Light is magic~

[floral grove]

Magic can still be utilised as electricity with a bit of imagination

[woeful crest]

I'm not sure where I read this but I remmeber something similar about insects, maybe moths, and how artifical lights in the modern times messed up their movements.

[leaden mesa]

I notice that burning dark plants release butterflies. Is this what everyone else sees…?

[latent lark]

This kind of tells me
A) they were looking to harness the power of the krills too
Or B) maybe they stumbled upon the krill as they were experimenting with the light.
According to the mural, maybe before the eden accident, perhaps the krill looked a lot different. The one here kinda looks like the mantas. (I’d they would draw the antennae sticking forward for accuracy if the krill still looked the same). I think they used to look like that spirit holding all the lanterns in the vault (unless that’s confirmed to be a different species) or something similar to that.

Sorry. I shouldn’t have pinged. I just wanted to reference the picture.

[latent lark]

Also has anyone discussed the underground krill in that one trial in the cave of prophecy?

Sorry for chatting so much. since the lore is open for interpretation, my writer brain is going nuts with ideas/stories that could be made from this game and sometimes i get excited so to share that i start dumping things here and there.

[nimble ingot]

You mean the Shadows?

[latent lark]

Yeah. I thought they were fuzzy krill.

[nimble ingot]

Folks have a couple of nicknames for them. 🙂

Not much is shown about them in the game, they are just a unique enemy of the trail, and have simple programming for them following a set path and not reacting to skykids. They are just a hazard to keep skykids on the move while wandering around in the dark.

It would be interesting to see how else they would behave in the world of Sky, though sadly, the game does not have much to show for us skykids.

[latent lark]

Very intriguing. I’m going categorize them as “native animal to the world that shares an existence similar to an earthworm”

[nimble ingot]

One can theorise that they are monster of the void. Acting like a demon with their dark and smoke like appearance, coupled with their fiery and unwavering gaze.
They make rumbling sound, similar to a rolling thunder. Though they consume any light they come across.

They may be similar to the smoke monsters from fiction and myths outside of the game.
Such as the creatures in the Raya and the Last Dragon.
Called Druun, they are interestingly known to steal the soul of living creatures, and leaving behind a petrified husk of the victim. Which strikingly resemble the praying statues in sky (while the statue kids in Eden have poses of being in pain, their situation may be related should the smoke monster theory have validity, though how they were petrified could still be a different process that achieved a similar result. That being the person is turned into stone.).

[nimble ingot]

sure, though possibly extinct, if the trail is a memory of the past and there being no smoke monster seen in other areas of sky.

[latent lark]

That is a great possibility!

Also maybe the eye of eden is the monster that did that to the children. Perhaps many were trying to get light from it all at once but it was too much so the eye snatched all the light back. (Well this could be feasible if it had sentience but it’s not so that idea is lost in the void)

[mossy bay]

Hey y’all does anyone have that picture of the king eating the orb? I have a crazy theory that i can’t tell y’all yet 🤐

[copper saffron]

yo wait i want to see that pic too

[mossy bay]

Nvm, found it..

[copper saffron]

ah, that one!
why cant u tell the theory yet?

[mossy bay]

Hmm i could tell you half of it but it wouldn’t really be very cohesive until the season of shattering is over

[naive flare]

Maybe he just hongry

[copper saffron]

he is eating the light itself

[outer hare]

bobbit- this was hilarious

May i ask where these shattering crebs go after the event completes? Headcanons and weird answers accepted but i do want to see if anybody genuinely has a clue, Do they waft off? Wait for their next shift? D i e ?

[copper saffron]

turn into dust to return to the darkness, ready to be reformed again in a next shard

[outer hare]

Avengers infinity war memory remembered thank you.

Another question is where do they come from? Was there just a group of crebs waiting in the void to come out every 2 hours and attack skykids?

[keen wren]

I saw someone say that the crabs are like hermit crabs that decorate their shells with random items. So maybe they are neutral crabs that were vibing nearby but when the shards fell they picked em up because they were sparkly and went full evil mode

[outer hare]

Ice kings crown from adventure time. Lore solved.

[keen wren]

Oh god

[copper saffron]

that's possible lol

[outer hare]

Thank you. This is the only reference sky lore needed and ever will .

[frail marten]

So guys maybe a dumb question but is there a place in the world wide web where someone maybe collected all the murals for each world? As screenshots?

I always thought they where beautiful but since i read things in this group the last days i want to examine them moreee :D never really thought to deep about them.. but woah

[outer hare]

YES there is, i believe theres a archive doc that salem made, lemme see if i have it but if i dont your going to have to ask them yourself ^^

[frail marten]

Is salem a member here?
Im pretty new :D will do if u dont find, thanks for looking! :)

[outer hare]

Yes a member here and online quite a lot, im looking for it now- ahh i dont think i have it sorry , im sure you can ask salem themselves if they have it. Im pretty sure its mentioned a lot and people do have access to it-

[frail marten]

Thank u for the search and the info tho! 🌈😇

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Murals

This one?

[floral grove]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQgj2Ii1A9p1kSly9rehvZU-fPsKtGazuEGvE3Od-Bg/edit

I found this one too, and the link works

[frail marten]

Oooh thank u! I will read through both of them :)

[outer hare]

there it is- gonna save that to my docs now

Bobbit ^^

[copper saffron]

ok so ive seen talks about the new blue shards that appear on the skykids when their light is drained
i think it's Darkness leaking out from within them.
it's a common theory that skykids are part Light and Dark. I think while the Light is their soul and their life force, the Darkness part is their physical form. when their winged light has been completely drained, they turn into statues, made of the same Dark stone as the new crystals are.
so when their Light has been drained, the Darkness begins to leak out and take the form of crystals. when their Light is returned, it can be 'melted' away and they go back to normal.

[outer hare]

bobbit

[floral grove]

That made me think, Sky Kids in their normal forms are a perfect balance of Light and Dark

If their balance completely tips towards Darkness (ex: getting drained, attacked, or damaged), they turn into statues

If their balance completely tips towards Light (ex: being reborn), they become invincible and start glowing yellow

[copper saffron]

yep. when overflowing with Light, they essentially lose their physical form and become beings of pure energy. when consumed by Darkness, they lose their energy and become still.

[floral grove]

And when we give the statues Winged Light, we sort of give them the opportunity to "supercharge" themselves to break free from Darkness

It's a simple concept but it makes so much sense I love it

[tacit bane]

you legend <3 /p

[torn eagle]

The dark light theory makes sense

Noted, Saved, Archived. Thank you for your wonderful insight

[wheat cypress]

No no it's OK I like this idea

[abstract badger]

I’ve been looking at shared memories and they don’t have the little glowing circle the skids have to indicate the presence of a candle—so they are clearly projections. Meanwhile, spirits have little orbs inside them that presumably represent their being. So that’s pretty cool.

I’m wondering about the differences between spirits when they were alive and skids today… physiologically, I mean

[dire agate]

For one thing, spirits have fingers and toes where skids have hand nubs.

[eternal totem]

Some spirits have mitten nubs, and some spirits have feet nubs (don’t ask how I know this)

[frigid tinsel]

Spirits are the disembodied souls of once-living ancestors. Skykids are alive so their souls are inside them

[visual lichen]

I zoomed in on my skid, they don't have fingers, and not nubs, it looks more like mittens to me hehe hehehe probably because thier scale is very small to the rest of the world and ancestor spirits.

[dire agate]

It's because they're made of caramel, obviously. Next question

[sharp lichen]

I will eat them all then.

[dire agate]

Next up: Season of Baudshaw Menace

[eternal totem]

What flavor is your Skykid then, mine is dark salt caramel

[slim plume]

Mine would be that really sweet Eclairs caramel

[dry ivy]

Skids strike me as maybe being chocolate flavored too

Mine is milk chocolate then 😌

[frigid tinsel]

krill behavior

[visual lichen]

Whatever they made of, they curl those tiny mitten hands into the cutest fists. Hehehehe

[sharp lichen]

My Skykid flavor is half butterscotch, half inedible stale Starburst

[eternal totem]

Stale cheetos fans where you at

[paper grove]

If you bite into my skykid, you’ll hear a loud crONCH and they’ll start to glow like a glowstick

[graceful oasis]

My Skykid tastes of Salted and pepper, minted chocolate.

[twilit stump]

(walks in) hey lore cha-
(walks out)

[hushed steeple]

Are we really talking about what Skykids taste like
Clay. My Skykid tastes like clay.
They're boring just like me

[deep osprey]

I always wondered why this boat in Eden looked different from all of the other boats...

[graceful oasis]

….Where are the Boat references?

[slim plume]

Is that a boat-?

[hushed steeple]

(Imma put this here bc Idk a better place to put it)
Not much of a theory but more so of a “maybe” kind of thing,
Dark plants right? Strange small or big nodes of a strange plantation that seems to grow just about anywhere in sky,
Due to some of the weird locations it grows on, I don’t believe It is a plant, but more so of a strange fungi, due to some of them literally growing on bones, and other places that would be strange for a plant to be there.
Plus, when you land on them, they sound sturdy and a little hollow, instead of a soft landing you would expect from an actual giant flower.

[raw spear]

With the way the rock is breaking apart shattering and giving us the season of shattering if there's anything inside of it it's going to escape soon and maybe the diamond in PNR is meant to protect sky kids instead of kill them but since we wander so close and darkness in sky acts like radiation we die anyway

And maybe the season of shattering is within the red diamond and the ancient memories we witness belong to The King. In order for there to be a memory there has to be a witness

[strange tapir]

Wait... Has anyone actually touched the diamond?? A long time ago I got really far into ||pnr|| and after the last sky kid I just kept walking but I wasn't sure if I was going nowhere or just walking into nothingness 🤣

[graceful oasis]

Discovered this thing….

[wheat cypress]

Yeah....... it's like empty.... lol freaks me out.

The way its laid out tho seems to imply that we are going inside

[frigid tinsel]

yea that's the season constellation, shows up every season

[keen shore]

Yep, that one! & Thank you sajain for posting the doc link! People only seem to ask about me when I’m offline xD

[rigid mural]

A similar but unpainted one can be found in the trench below the water of the Sanctuary Islands !

[keen shore]

oh god not again it returns to haunt me

[hushed steeple]

Imma be honest, the shattering season is probably gonna explain what the heck happened with eden, but-
How exactly did the king fall to the darkness is my question?
Concidering his mask is basically everywhere, I see how people respected him, and he just fell, somehow-

At this moment I'm just regoing through lore but it still doesn't exactly explain-

[frigid tinsel]

there's a bit of concept art that says darkstone corrupted the ancestors and the king. king especially cos they had a crown implied to have darkstone in it.

The Ancients enter a golden age and the Prince is crowned King. However, dark matter begins to corrupt the Prince and Ancestors.

A Storm filled with darkness was created from the explosion and corruption spread throughout the Kingdom. The Ancestors' Dark Stones curse the King's crown, trapping him in the storm.

however there's a lot from that concept timeline that is surely not canon, so take it with a big heaping grain of salt.

the alternative theory is that the king wasn't evil, just trying to save a dying civilization in a desperate attempt that went horribly wrong (see: contemporary Eden)

[rigid mural]

I liked how some people compared the Eden Elder with the Ice King from Adventure Time, since both got corrupted.

[frigid tinsel]

the Ice King literally had a crown that warped his mind and drove him insane but he kept wearing it cos he wanted to use his powers to protect Marcelline – that's a very apt comparison

[rigid mural]

YEAH EXACTLY
Like at first it was a choice because this power was needed, but that elder could have gotten changed to such a degree over time by their use of it that they (at least felt they) now depended on darkstone.

[frigid tinsel]

you gotta why the ancestors continued manufacturing power diamond despite the darkness it produced and the animal cruelty involved in the process. was it a simple wearing the pros and cons? was their situation so desperate or their greed* so strong that they viewed it all worth it? or were the majority of the ancestors unaware of the negative effects, with those who controlled the manufacturing benefiting from the massive ignorance? or did they come to realize the consequences too late, when their society was so advanced by power diamonds that they were unwilling to undergo the massive infrastructural change that would be involved in remaking their society not so dependent on darkstone technology? or were they so far removed from seeing light as sacred, viewing it now as a mere power source to consume?

mmm got rambly

[rigid mural]

Most of us still eat burgers from time to time, some of us wear makeup without checking if it's cruelty free, and we still benefit from animal experimentation for healthcare purposes.
Perhaps it was like this for ancestors as well ?

[frigid tinsel]

gosh then considering that if their king gave it all the a-okay, then how many ancestors just would've went along with it? did they fear protesting darkstone tech usage in the face of the king's power or were they so reliant on the king to save them that they just would've let anything slide in desperation? or was there ever an uproar, a resistance that was powerless in the face of the king's reign?

it's been a while since I watched Adventure Time but iirc young Marcelline did know that the crown was hurting Simon pre-Ice King, but Simon was the adult who took authority over a child to protect her during an apocalypse. again, every time Simon wore the crown, he did it in order to use its power to save themselves. even if Marcelline begged him not to. eventually it warped him so much that he just didn't take it off and it continued to lay havoc on his bodymind.

it could've been like that between the ancestors, the Elders, and the king. who advised against darkstone usage when its repercussions were known? who wasn't listened to?

[rigid mural]

An uproar or resistance ?

[dry ivy]

Yeah, I wonder if these means literal possession/LOTR ring kind of evil influence, or more like the elders and the king lose their morals due to temptation. The former idea is more magic-based and makes them the victims, while the latter makes them more responsible for their poor decisions

Tho maybe the former option does too since they might’ve known that dark stones had such an influence but ignored it

[dry ivy]

And as much as I like the LOTR option since it feels very dramatic lol, I keep thinking about this the concept art talks about the krill not being “evil”, which makes me think how Darkness as a force/element in Sky isn’t necessarily evil either?

Tho maybe it isn’t, and it just has poor effects on Spirit’s health, albeit having an important role in the ecosystem

Like how the Sun is good for us and fuels the world pretty much but too much of it is bad for us (radiation)

the sun is a DEADLY LASER—

[latent lark]

Oo i like that idea a lot! I too enjoy thinking the krill and other dark elements aren’t inherently evil!

[frigid tinsel]

Sky really feels like it's pointing at the current environmental crisis(es) so I'm gonna roll with the comparison.

because, yea, so much of our own society was built off the exploitation of human and natural entities. so much of our own society still exploits human labor and and natural resources to function. one can do their best to avoid personally capitalizing off the human, animal, and plant exploitation that puts products on the shelves. however for many people, they don't have the time, energy, or expense to do so. and because it's the foundation of one's whole society, it is a difficult task.

they are also just one person. while the more individuals who change their lifestyles can turn into a significant mass who have the power, on a micro level, it can feel hopeless in the face of macro-level forces (govenments, companies) that continue to keep things as they are because it is profitable or beneficial in the short-term.

it isn't hopeless though. as you pointed out, Flight is example of someone who used their resources in order to create an alternative that didn't harm the environment, that didn't utilize darkstone, and maintained the light ecosystem. unfortunately, they were either unheard or came too late.

[latent lark]

Or shut down by the superiors

Labeled a heretic or crazy

[frigid tinsel]

I like to think Flight guide had the support of Prairie Elder, being their former apprentice and all.

[nimble ingot]

It is interesting to mention with Alasdair mentioning the Flight season, that the spirits are, like most season spirits, are subtly detached from their respective realm. Some are more notable than others, though for the Flight season in this regard, they are one of the only spirits to live in an area, that is not beset with rain, nor shows signs of mining/lodging.
While the hollow nature of the islands may imply some amount of excavation, the islands are still floating and support a healthy amount of plant and animal life.

with the season spirits care for the animals, it does present an interesting relationship with the Sanctuary season spirits. Especially with the windvanes present in, or near, both season areas.

[latent lark]

so is sky kinda like a psa about pollution and climate change?

[nimble ingot]

I would see it as a fable of life.

[latent lark]

ah

[shy scaffold]

There are signs of sea level rising
Such as the place in Treasure Reef

[nimble ingot]

That, or the islands had sunk

[frigid tinsel]

Given the grasslands that resemble Isle from the Switch trailer, Isle seems to have been flooded by rising sea level as well

[nimble ingot]

If that would mean parts of the ancient Dawn is under the water, then I would support that theory.

[latent lark]

so it is somewhat then

[hexed saddle]

I think... and if the void was in fact in the imagination of our skykid influenced by light where memories come directly to him and that suddenly when he loses his light all those senses also fade away and so are plunged into darkness where they can't feel anything, and so the king where his light is is constantly sucked in by the giant diamond definitely stay there to prevent the corruption of the diamond from spreading and sucking all the light from the kingdom, which would totally collapsing the realm of sky to the ground and be pulverized by the impact or swallowed up at the bottom of the seas 😱

[latent lark]

what an unfortunate state

[dry ivy]

I have a question

So spirits have noses

‘Cuz why does the wasteland statues show them with noses

I mean they could be helmets, but those parts are meant to guard noses too!

I mean Im sure they have some organ LIKE a nose in their masks to have a sense of smell

[nimble ingot]

Yes, though due to the game's limitations and stylistic choices. Most characters would be presented without noses

However, with the season of Performance, the masks did include a subtle nose detail.

[latent lark]

also they're dead so they wouldn't have a need for noses now right?

[nimble ingot]

Probably not, though some masks may lend to the silhouette and flavour of the character.
For example, the admiring actor's beaked mask, gives them a sharpened detail that may lend to their cunning acting skills, or possibly a directive character as the beak does telegraph well with where they look.
Or the troupe greeter's hawk mask with a hooked profile, may translate to the spirit being stern, though a proud character.

That is what I like to interpret at the least.
There can be other examples, though these may hopefully carry my point across.

[frigid tinsel]

the need for a nose doesn't preclude the fact that the nose is a part of the face and the face is a significant part of one's bodily identity. if spirits' humanoid forms are a reflection of who they were when alive, then I don't think a lot of folk would realize they're ghosts and go "screw my nose."

[keen shore]

If I was a ghost and i no longer had a nose or mouth I would be so mad

[gleaming glacier]

I think spirits appear to have no noses cause everyone wears masks

[frigid tinsel]

even maskless spirits don't have noses, but that could just be a design choice to make sure rendering graphics is so heavy on mobile devices

[nimble ingot]

I beg to differ with the ever subtle silhouette of spirits and skykids.
Especially with considering the gloating narcissist's face

Although Alasdair is right about the game being limited with how much resolution/detail it can afford to provide with running on phones.

[frigid tinsel]

they're a fruit, they get nose privileges

[nimble ingot]

XD
I won't argue with that.

[raw crypt]

fun fact if u clip into the valley elder models they have noses so thats why gloat has one

[lyric isle]

elo lore people!!

[frail marten]

Hey lore chat! Got a question:

Why is there no king at the cave? I cant see him in any of the drawings (like on salems mural collection)

[nimble ingot]

Activate the braziers that you get after completing the fire trial.

They will reveal the rest of the mural for you.

[keen shore]

Yep! ^

[frail marten]

Oh i need to do that every time when reentering the cave to see the whole mural?

[nimble ingot]

Only if you want to see it, yes

[frail marten]

Umm sorry if this belongs to questions but, which braziers? 😅

These fires? Bc they all were lit when i entered
(Im german sorry if i dont understand heh)

[frigid tinsel]

there are some on the floating rocks

[frail marten]

Yes they are lit too 🤔 hmm

I will look around thank u again :)

Oh nvm i just had to fly to the fire 🙈

[nimble ingot]

apologies for not clarifying that.
Though glad to hear you got it 🙂

[upper prism]

You guys discussing nose lore?

[graceful oasis]

Wait wrong place gosh darn it. Sorry

[muted kettle]

Not real lore but whenever I summon the elders I like to imagine I’m consulting them on what to do w my next life, this time they told me to help out Sky kids with the shards

[wheat cypress]

This was wise advice lol

[flint tendon]

Did you know that the Mask and Hair are made of light the clothes and hats are made out of.. uh clothes (not sure if it is a lore tho)

[keen shore]

The clothes and hats are likely made out of light too, given they disappear to be replaced by the basic clothes (which might be part of our shell?) when our flame goes out?

[floral grove]

Clothes are an extension of the bodies of Sky Kids confirmed

[graceful oasis]

Some of the most clear lore we have because for some reason we like clothes…

[keen shore]

To be honest, our clothes being part of our shell so that they stay when our flame goes out is the preferable option here

[sharp lichen]

But our clothes don't cast any shadow, so I think they have to be made of light

[shy scaffold]

Natural extinction or forced extinction
Or caused by something else but why is there a bunch of bones of the exact same lying around in the same place?
My initial thought was the experimental theory (from the murals in Treasure Reed, and discussed earlier) that these were failed or undesired outcomes left here to die out
Another was a megafauna species were killed out due to unable to co exist with the Sky civilization, we do that too here on earth

[frigid tinsel]

That area is called graveyard.
A dumping ground for bodies

[shy scaffold]

Im aware

Thats why i had the thought

[keen shore]

The second area of wasteland looks a lot like a refinery; maybe this was the corpse dumping ground

Hence why they are so many krill there are well

[shy scaffold]

This place was some sort of industrial park

[hushed steeple]

it looks like that there were bigger and more powerful krills or another creature used to exist but with time they evoluted and the bigger ones died by natural causes or smth and turned into bones? my English really bad I can't ____(I don't know what the word is called in English) better than this

[frigid tinsel]

The area outside Forest Elder temple is called boneyard. Getting a similar vibe

[keen shore]

OOOO THATS SMART… I will forever wonder why krills are in one place but not the other, esp because of the whale bones in Boneyard

[soft timber]

appears I have this head canon where even though skids can take 'naps' on the ground or where ever they happen to be, they can 'sleep' for extended periods of time in the sky like little stars

[cinder flax]

Imagine if they did run off of solar energy and can store a whole lot of that energy for nighttime

[graceful oasis]

And just fall asleep and turn on battery saving mode.

[cinder flax]

The second it gets too dark or they get too low they just faceplant into the ground. Undetectable/hardly able to be detected by krills

[copper saffron]

Low battery
splat

[cinder flax]

I feel like that would've been Megabird's idea of how the first wave of skids through ||eden|| would've worked out. Then it realized "oh no, bad idea for how they're powered."

[torn eagle]

If the spirits parhelion color is the same as the ancient dark parhelion color (wait is it parhelion? Not sure anymore)

Evidence that the spirits are leaning more towards the dark? Representation that they are disconnected with the light perhaps?

Maybe the reason why they change colors when we spend ac on them is that once we spend ac we connect them back to the light.. maybe thats also the reason why its only after ascending them do they appear in orbit, connected with megabird, back to the stars

[frigid tinsel]

wdym by parhelion?

[torn eagle]

The glowing ring like thing you see in winged light and eden

I forgot if its called parhelion or smth

[frigid tinsel]

yea that's a parhelion but there isn't a "dark" parhelion cos they're lights.
I think I'm misunderstanding something

[keen shore]

I think they mean the blue glow around the glowing orbs in the ancient light area

[frigid tinsel]

ohhhh

[wheat cypress]

In the void area yes... the ancient light parhelion is yellow, and the ancient dark parhelion is blue

Also in relation to the topic before this... I've always had a headcanon that when we shut the game off, our sky kid goes to bed by going back up into their star in the constellation to sleep, because when a friend sees you offline you come down from your star 🥲 (yes this has lots of holes no I don't care because sky kids sleeping in stars when the game is off is too cute)

[floral grove]

If pre-calamity Ancestors found out how easy it is for Sky Kids tor return back to the stars, they would riot

[wheat cypress]

No kidding

Sky kids most likely have this ability due to a stronger connection with the Light, and maybe a special blessing from it

The Ancestors seem to gravitate more towards the dark as mentioned before

[floral grove]

Exactly

[wheat cypress]

I wonder if we could make like a scale of light to dark of Sky's inhabitants, the sky kids would probably be either smack dab in the middle or a teensy bit off to the light side

[floral grove]

Sky Kids would probably be not too far from Elders. Elders seem to be slightly more on the Dark side but they're still closely affiliated with the Light judging by the temples they have. Sky Kids, like what you said, might be a teeny bit to the Light. They can also be right in the middle since we can interpret them as a balance between Light and Dark; with one overpowering the other in certain situations

[floral grove]

This is what I mean in the last sentence in case it got confusing

[floral grove]

I also came to the conclusion that they're a bit on the Dark side because of not only their angular masks (signifying danger or darkness according to a concept art) but also because they're most likely dead. I interpret Light and Dark as Divinity and Mortality. If Elders were more on the divine side like where Sky Kids would theoretically be placed, they would have the ability to reborn (but they couldnt)

[torn eagle]

Spirits/Ancestors likely leaning towards dark because of their whole disconnection with megabird/the light through the usage of darkstone

Stated in my previous statement it could describe why they change color when you ascend them with ac and why they only appear in orbit after you ascend them... You connect them back to the light through ac

[floral grove]

They're just generally inferior /j

[wheat cypress]

Agree agree ... good points @floral grove

Was a little late to these but oh well haha. I also like your thinking of light and dark being like divinity and mortality, a perspective I haven't heard before but it's a wonderful way of thinking of it

I feel like it fills in some of gaps that thinking about it as simply good and evil presents

[floral grove]

A concept sheet of Light and Dark described being Dark as being indifferent rather than being evil so I guess the devs had never really intended Darkness to be a representation of evil

This idea doesn't always apply in the live game though. Crabs turn evil when exposed to Darkness but Sky Kids don't

[sharp lichen]

The question of Light vs Darkness morality is extremely hard to say and leads to lot of differing theories, and I can't come up with a sufficient answer for what is good and what is evil, or if both/neither are good/evil

[tough coral]

hi popping in to say that the prairie elder was in my (otherwise pokemon-related) dream last night, just giving a speech and being a cool dude

[graceful oasis]

Sips tea So We got two types of dark crystal levels. The Super charged red ones, and the blue ones. The reason I Describe them as super charged, is because they are on a sugar rush of light, and the rocks want hella more. Blues ones are more timid, since the difference is simple by still being dark in ways, but not draining your light, just holding it in… I think…. I honestly am just going base off my experiences with the two different types.

[floral grove]

The "King" and "Corrupt King" radiates "me in my freshman year vs me in college" vibes

[noble tide]

Saw someone talk about how when you hold a butterfly, it will eventually start glowing plink, which possibly means that it's over charged. But see, when you use the confetti emote, the confetti start of as the normal glowing color, but quickly turn to a shade of pink as they fade away. So to add to that theory, what if instead of us overcharging the butterfly, it's us not knowingly absorbing more and more of their light. Butterflies choose to give us light by surrounding us before flying away, but when holding them, they cannot do that. It's not really much of a theory, just a thought about one that I've seen here

[torn eagle]

Ho.. tru

[lean marten]

This made me think

If the power diamonds are made of darkstone, then infusing them with the right amount of light force allows them to be usable in mechanisms like gates, on the other hand when overcharged they become radical and red ending up with harming us

[hollow pier]

Hey Oldie Hage Jiisama here, wondering if there’s anything else I should add/edit in my canon lore google doc from a few seasons ago (which I see has been removed from the pins probs because I had neglected it or maybe cause of the latest pinned message?)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit

Recommendations for nicer formatting wouldn’t go unappreciated either

[copper saffron]

hey lorechat are u guys gonna analyse the poems on the new merch

[hushed steeple]

What do they say

[copper saffron]

3rd anniversary box:

Flowers in bloom will wither,
But the rose in your soul never dies.
The depths of dreams are a river,
Flowing from stars in your eyes.
Painting the spirit with color,
Stay true to our hearts in Sky.
thatskykid:
Infinite distance,
Unlimited time.
Our paths cross the stars,
Through an oasis of light.
Eternity is possible,
As I hold your hand in mine.
manta jewellery set:
I will place my heart,
On a manta for you.
A message in a whisper,
Under the silver moon.
Trusting it will reach you,
Across the ocean blue.
Nothing comes between us,
Because our love is true.
day and night pin:
The sun rises and sets,
The moon whispers quiet regrets.
Playful winds dance in the air,
United together,
Our courage expands.
love seesaw pin:
Sit with me,
Let go all the weariness.
Up and down,
Sorrows melt like lemon drops.
With you by my side,
All wounds will heal.
message boats memo pad:
A thousand words,
Placed on a golden boat.
Across the blues,
In search of you.
not all of them have much 'lore', they're just nice poems 🙂

but the last three i can find are the ones that are somewhat more interesting
kizuna ai keychain:

Wander in the land of desolate,
With my shadow lengthens behind me.
Searching for light with a backpack of love,
I am never alone;
Your footprints are next to my own.
lightseeker umbrella:
Where there is light,
We shall follow.
Where there are souls,
We shall seek.
Under the magical umbrella,
The true friendship we keep lasts forever.
imo tho the most interesting is the one from the nature turtle pin
An echo from the ancient wise,
Travels through eternal time.
Beneath an ocean crystal clean,
What wonders await unseen?
Sky warriors stand with nature,
Bliss of Light shines forever.

[hushed steeple]

Cracks knuckles, flexes fingers
I'm seeing a few symbolisms here…

[copper saffron]

i knew u guys would like them

[harsh pecan]

Woahh

[copper saffron]

there's a rlly good poet at tgc

[slim plume]

That was me! And good eye, I would never have noticed that!

That definitely puts a hole in my "overcharged Eden diamond" theory. Then again, with the dark crystals the red ones are the ones that drain your light while the blue ones don't. You could argue that the red ones need more light from you since they're already powered (I guess mirroring the butterfly and the player) and that the blue ones are too weak to do much, but wouldn't that make the blue ones more potent in needing light?

Anyhow, with the confetti emote, maybe instead of the light fizzling out like heat in a cold environment, maybe it instead evaporates (like a water drop in a hot climate?). I mean, the light confetti is essentially coming from us, and we know that our light is a bit different to real-world light.

I'm not sure though, I'm pretty sure the confetti emote stays the same even when you're de-lit (if you can emote while de-lit) so idk

[frail marten]

Hey again lore chat! :)

[proud fable]

hey lore chat :0

[frail marten]

Yesterday i looked at all the Murals (thanks to salem 😌) and i noticed that the light symbol is the same as the closet for accessories :o but why?

[torn eagle]

Now that I remember it isnt the spirit memory from confetti cousin collecting flowers in butterfly fields? For the confetti emote?

But then again you can argue that after we obtain the expression we just use our light to project the effects but im not totally sure about that 🤔

[proud fable]

Let me have a guess. So this is the light symbol (according to the game) and it shows the way when you tap on yourself and honk. However if we assume that our final destination is eden this symbol shows the way to eden. More specifically to the light in eden. I am going to suppose that there is a case where this light might as well be the skykid in the dark room. Now it is also speculated that that dude is also the king / prince. If all those stand (again this is based on lots of theories). We have

Symbol = shows the destination
Symbol= shows the light

SUM: (add those up) and you have that it shows the light at the destination (eden) or the prince. That being said the symbol could also symbolise the king / prince

This is also because of the murals in prophecy which show him at the top of the cave ( I dont have a pic rn) and his head kind of resembles it.

Having said all those we can somewhat of agree that the symbol may as well be the king. The king is an ancestor. In the picture I have sent in concepts skykids have the ancestors ability to use accessories and tools.

Because
a. The king was an ancestor and
b. He was once the deity (well technically this was the elder bird but at some point he was recognised to be somewhat of that) ruling OVER ancestors

That symbol may as well correspond to ancestors.

This closet helps you equip props, something only ancestors could do, so the symbol derives from this.

Note that this is just a theory with lot of speculation 💀 and concept art

[frail marten]

Oh lord thank u for that effort! :o i really like this theory, it calms my mind to know that ☺

But just for the Information i thought the star that shows when u honk is a little different 🤔 or do u mean that it resembles that too?

[graceful oasis]

The lightseekers like light and seem to search for souls… That mean either trees have souls, meaning they are living entities, or just light trees that somehow exist like Vault ones.

[hollow pier]

Could someone tell me where about what different colours of lights we can collect in sky? Candles/burning plants gives red light, opening clams gives blue light for example

Are there any sources of green/purple/yellow light? Beyond the rainbow 🌈

[outer hare]

bobbit, and the lights from season of enchantment

[outer hare]

I want to talk about extinct species in sky, about season of shattering and days of nature and every animal thing i can point out in 15 minutes of time. First of all, ||The king jellyfish we see when going up to orbit|| why dont those jellyfish go up to ||orbit/ megabirb|| already? ||Why are they just chilling making a path for us?||, I also want to question why the giant manta in sanctuary doesnt go eden? Do animals need clear sight of their direction ( eden ) to go? Because we see a somewhat similar giant manta in the final quest and i think also memory of flight where the giant manta seemingly heads off in eden's direction?. Now i want to see the difference between the king jellyfish in game and the ones ( i assume their king jellies ) of the ancient light of shattering, are they just really old or radiation zap make them big or something? How are these jelly created, ive seen theories of spirit animals in sky being the animals that survived the drainage of their power for crystals and theories that mantas are created out of moisture in the clouds but what about these jellies? It seems as if ( if these ancient memories are in the past ) that there used to be a lot of jellies... what happened to them? War? And the few remaining why are they alive, i think the same about the days of nature turtle who also doesnt appear in the ancient light statue thing but that might just be off aesthetics, but is the turtle a light animal and what happened to its species? Krills. The only pretty much full darkness animal according to the statues...how are they created? Out of radiation sure but whats with their lifespan? Do they have a lifespan? What keeps them from going to ||orbit||? Thats enough my brain is dead for tonight thank you ^^ 💜

[nova meadow]

its nearly 1am but im just thinking if sky kids are partially artificial, i think it was mentioned in kostas's videos that they may have a power diamond as a core. makes me wonder if perhaps the isle elder saw the destruction of the technological evolution and sought to create life out of it, thus inventing a skykid or sumn similar. not sure if its canonically right or whatever just seems like a cool concept to me

[dry ivy]

Wait—Skids could potentially be kinda like robots?? Like some sort of Astro Boy?

[stark quarry]

its not related to the tree but in the laidback pioneer ts hint its mentioned that they can see dead people and have gone to underworld and returned do you think they seek soul to help them across to other side?

[lucid egret]

What?? Where’s that

[signal basin]

So how much is everyone here freaking out over the new season?

[stark quarry]

Here

[sonic ocean]

of course the laidback pioneer can see dead people, they're dead

[stark quarry]

I don't know if i should cry or laughing 😭

[slim plume]

FOUL BUT TRUE 😭✋

[sonic ocean]

i think it'd be weirder if they couldn't see dead people

[slim plume]

Fair-

But also angst potential hold on

[stark quarry]

OH NO ANGST

[cinder flax]

Maybe they meant while they were alive, they did those things? Then it somewhat became their life goal to make the light seekers group?

It makes sense why they're called a pioneer, they worked on the way everyone perceived the after life after experiencing themselves

[slim plume]

Sky season where the Quest Guide still thinks they're alive and over the course of the season you have to convince them they're dead and help them move on.

Bonus points if the seasonal spirits are their past family and/or friends

I'm a writer if you're wondering how I came up with this so quickly

[stark quarry]

In my hc Polite scholar have relation with the lightseeker group because in their memory they summon a big light tree

The lightseeker qg maybe their student and polite scholar teach them to help a lost soul to cross to the underworld and give them peace they never get (example: people who died unexpectedly and still have unfinished business, people who lost and then deceased, fallen soldier who doesn't have family etc)
Maybe the lightseeker group plant the lil tree in all of the realm to remember the lost soul?

[wind sluice]

@frigid tinsel apologies for the ping but a friend of mine just stumbled upon one of your fics and shared it, I was like yo I recognize that name, may be a stretch but I wonder and it was YOU!! I just wanna say it’s some of the most beautiful work I have seen and is very compelling

I’m not even a fic reader and this was amazing brooo

[dry ivy]

What website is this..?

[stark quarry]

Want the link?

[frigid tinsel]

Yea I published a fic finally and, gosh, you’re so sweet, thank you very much for the kind words I had been teasing that one here for months and finally got to a polished final draft I’m proud of. I’m so glad you like it. It’s been so well received so far and I’m just in awe of all the feedback. Y’all are awesome

[stark quarry]

may i ask where i can read your fanfic?
Bitbit review make it sound interesting

[toxic delta]

My hc is sky kids are aliens

[dry ivy]

Ooh, color me interested. What fic y’all talking about? I wanna read it

[frigid tinsel]

You can read the fic here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/40284843
A musing about the Valley Elder(s)

[slim plume]

HELL YES IT'S ON AO3

[dry ivy]

yes please

[stark quarry]

Already send it to your dm!

[dry ivy]

Are they..? They do come form the stars, but I assumed their origins are similar to the Spirits origins

[dry ivy]

Oh! My bad! Thanks a mil

[stark quarry]

I only read a few paragraphs and oh wow

[toxic delta]

They be off world and non planet natives i guess, I like to think there might be other planets with sky kids on there too, some sort of space migratory race

[dry ivy]

Wow, I’ve never heard of this idea, but I like how different it is! Never thought about it that way

[frigid tinsel]

Arguably skykids are aliens to humans on Earth but skykids are not aliens to their homeworld of Sky

[dry ivy]

Maybe they’re next door neighbors with Little Prince’s asteroid hehe

[frigid tinsel]

Wosh, you thought about this, nice

[stark quarry]

Skykid is made from star if i remember

[toxic delta]

I just got the idea from the flying chains in orbit they remind me of birds in migration

[dry ivy]

I wish we had a sky kid alien invasion. Most wholesome alien invasion ever

[toxic delta]

Many lamps were harmed in this invasion

[dry ivy]

Imagine on the next moon landing an astronaut runs into a Sky Kid

And he’s not sure how to react, but then the little fella offers a hand, as if to say “wanna play”?

Then they play tag

[toxic delta]

Hold that thought I might draw that at some point sounds really wholesome

[dry ivy]

Oh HA— like moths

Skids trying to light themselves off of lamps and things and are confused when nothing happens

Tho I’m sure they can do some lights so as they can survive on earth relatively ok

[dry ivy]

Ohhh!! I’d love that aahhhh

[hushed steeple]

[keen shore]

something has been bothering me about the jellyfish shard memory. In it we see the jellyfish heading towards somewhere & like they’ve been frozen while moving, but in the real world they just hover in place and spin sometimes… they don’t go anywhere. why?

[stark quarry]

If there a house caught on fire do you think the skykid will gather around it for wax and also use it for playground?—

[dry ivy]

Haha—-maybe so? I don’t think they’d have a fear of fire

I think if they saw humans in distress because of the fire, they’d be concerned, and try to help them, of course

But yeah, their initial thought would be “ooh! What a great flying playground!!”

[frigid tinsel]

perhaps cos the hellyfish we see aren't under any duress – they are literally just chilling. whereas, if those jellyfish in the frozen memory were close to Eden when it initially exploded, then perhaps they had a moment to panic and attempt to flee, which is what they're swirling up to

[stark quarry]

Awww that wholesome
I can imagine skykid wearing firefighter hats saving peeps from fire
Their small sizes can also be great advantage
They can go through small spaces and save people through it and also their durability of getting hit really hard with big objects

I can imagine one on top of firefighter trucks goes "HEEEHOOONKKK HEEEEEHONMKK"

[dry ivy]

As we see from the stone statues in Eden (and the nature of Sky in general), Skids are very compassionate, self sacrificing creatures

They’d be the first to shield a human with their bodies from fire

[stark quarry]

THEY ARE JUST SO PURE AND INNOCENT WE MUST PROTECT THEM BUT YET THEY PROTECT USSS

[dry ivy]

I’ve always thought to myself how a skid would react to a human

They’d be so curious!

Such as our inability to fly, our squishy bodies versus being clay like them, and how we don’t (typically) do death defying stunts like they do every day

[stark quarry]

If skykid can protect human then maybe human can protect skykid by fighting the krilll and krabs? I mean we have a lot of weapon

[dry ivy]

I mean I thinks skids have encountered some facial features, such as noses...but I imagine our mouths would also be really odd to them lol

[sharp lichen]

Skykids and firefighter trucks will make an extremely annoying combo

But I’d imagine they’d love geese, sirens, anything that makes loud honking noises

[stark quarry]

I would think they would put their hand in our mouth to observe it—

[dry ivy]

I mean idk. Would a krill be impervious to human weapons tho we know in wasteland that the spirits might’ve fought back against krill with spears but we don’t know how well they fared

[stark quarry]

Imagine geese and a skykid have a rap battle

[dry ivy]

Ohhh I imagine they’d be best friends with earth birds

Do you think they’d have some sort of spiritual connection to our animals too..?

Or only the creatures in their own world?

[stark quarry]

We literally have bomb we can defeat em with ease!

[dry ivy]

Yeah, you’d be talking and they’d stare at you really intently and then all of sudden stick their hand in your mouth like a toddler

[sharp lichen]

I really don’t think so, our real world creatures aren’t really associated with the Light

[dry ivy]

But how would our tech interact with the elements of Darkness? krill seem to be made of the stuff

I imagine nuclear weapons and Darkness would not be a good combination

[sharp lichen]

Darkstone bombs

[dry ivy]

I mean the red Power Stone basically comes off like a leaking nuclear weapon already

[stark quarry]

Ah true true i didn't think of that the end maybe result in darkness explosion and darkness infection everywhere

[dry ivy]

We’d have to also theorize how Light interacts in our world. Would we have such elements in the fabric of our reality? They’d have to in order for Skids to be here I think.

[dry ivy]

Yeah....and I think Skids would be a bit freaked out by it

Tho then again they might look at weapons, and being impervious little creatures who see the afterlife as a location they often revisit, would think they are simply fun toys lol

They’d never use it to hurt anyone tho. I don’t think they’d even get they were weapons unless someone told them. Then they’d never want to touch them probably

[stark quarry]

Oh god i can imagine government using sky kid as a war weapon

[dry ivy]

gah noo this is getting too dark

Tho Skids couldn’t really be a weapon in my mind??? They can’t damage anything really. All they can do is fly and sing really prettily and share their inner flame with others to heal (at least in their home world)

[stark quarry]

IM SORRYYYYYYY I THINKS IT BECAUSE OF MY BRAIN HUNGRY FOR ANGST
And i also do a lot of angst fan fiction

[stark quarry]

But but they can—
Ah nvm i think its too dark

[dry ivy]

No it’s ok, I had some thoughts about how Skids would react to seeing a human bleed (I mean like, if a human got a paper cut or something), but I thought it was too dark to mention

Mostly I think skids can not having a kind blood (I think??? Unless their Light counts?) would be very curious about it

“Is this your Light, human?”

[dry ivy]

Oh

I’m both scared yet curious at the same time

You can DM me if you feel it’s too dark for the lore chat, (Tho then again, we’ve discussed angsty things on here a lot before so—)

[pliant parcel]

What if this game is an exaggerated reflection of our society? The way corruption changes a single person and therefore influences the world piece by piece, kingdom by kingdom. Even if the intention was to save and protect the people from the start (politicians) the greed and heartlessness intensifies until they are no longer themselves but a shell of who they once were empty and void of life, a void that continues to grow and damage everything in its path until there’s nothing left but darkness and broken shards of the world we once knew. Kind of a summary of it I’ll have to rewrite it and put a little more thought. I’m a new player and this has been the vibe the game has given me since I discovered Eden and learned a bit about the games Lore.

[stark quarry]

Hmmm do you think skykid have concept of injuries?
Do you think when they see us bleeding do you think they think its normal and its happend all the time?

[stark quarry]

I will dm it to you later if you don't mind

[dry ivy]

Well, I mean, Skids do know what it is like to be hurt and face pain. Losing their WL and turning into stone and getting crusted over by darkness seems like it hurts to me

Plus idk, falling somewhere and face planting on the ground (like when entering Wasteland) probably disorients them a bit, lol, even if it is not fatal to them like to humans

[dry ivy]

Tho yeah I think they’d think humans are durable like them at first!

But I see Skids as extreme empaths so they’d immediately notice a human looking like they’re in pain

oh gosh now I’m imagining a skid finding a badly injured human, and their first thought is to take out their WL to help

[stark quarry]

Thank god skykid doesn't have bone if they do they prob already became dust

[dry ivy]

Yeah, it’s amazing—I see skids as being almost stone like, so it’s amazing they haven’t gotten cracks or shattered

It’s extremely durable rock!

[stark quarry]

NOOOOOOOOOO
when they realize they couldn't help them they prob just stay with them holding their hand to give them peace for the last time making sure they will be remembered

[dry ivy]

Hdhshd yes

[dry ivy]

I imagine skids are very acquainted with the idea of death, in the sense they know it something not to be afraid of in journeying to the after life a lot themselves

They’d really try help a human understand this and calm them down

[stark quarry]

They can be used as hammer ngl—
"Hey honey did you see my hammer? I need it to put up a frame!"

"No i don't honey"

"Sigh while looking at a skykid"

Skykid: "man not again-"

[dry ivy]

And who knows?

We were able to see the Little Prince and usher him to his...after life whatever it was

Maybe a Skid and a human would meet each other in the afterlife too.

[dry ivy]

HA—-

[stark quarry]

The skykid already fed up with being used as tool

[dry ivy]

Heheh, probably, but I also see skids as being very kind and eager to help

Tho it depends on each one’s personality I suppose 😉

[stark quarry]

Bahahsk
Alright im going to sleep see ya pancake!

[dry ivy]

Oh okay! It was really fun talking to you. Sleep well!

[toxic delta]

I'd imagine if a skid sees a birthday cake, they would steal the candles

They would be appalled when told that they were suppose to blow out the candles

They would probably like all the light based festivals we do eg. New years, diwali, floating lanterns, loy kratong, 4 of July, the Chinese new years

[quick torrent]

Is there any lore or connection to the red candle our skid pulls out and the red candles scattered around sky?

[uncut pond]

There could be, but I don't think anyone is sure

[graceful oasis]

Hides in the corner as a Candle madman

[keen shore]

tysm for answering my question! was wondering if there was a connection b/t there being no visible living king jellyfish now and the jellyfish beig stationary,… what if they were just as migratory as birds pre disaster

[frigid tinsel]

Jellyfish: just keep swimming, just keep swimming

[keen shore]

YEAH, I thoroughly believe in velas light cycle theory and can’t think of a reason as to why jellyfish would be exempt… unless something happened to throw that off

[frigid tinsel]

Maybe skykids in the new jellyfish cosmetics should take over

[rigid mural]

I wish Jellyfish Whisperer could tell you about how jellyfish work

they feel a bit guilty hogging the conversation infodumping about their special interest until they realise they are surrounded by attentive lore nerds

[frigid tinsel]

Wonder if Jellyfish Whisperer knows elder jellyfish exist if all or most of them died out. They’d be a critically endangered species and there are only normal ones at Sanctuary Islands, at least currently

[gleaming glacier]

I feel bad for all the whisperers, they all have to know the creatures they whisper to have died out significantly

[frigid tinsel]

Crab Whisperer still got it good. Though wonder if they suspected that crabs were corrupted creatures

[gleaming glacier]

I wonder if she’s tried to uncorrupt her babies

[slim plume]

Memory Whisperer and Whale Whisperer don't even have spirits to relive, you just do something (burning dark plants on skeletal carcass, using Normal Manta Call on a small pile of bones) and it gives you the call 💀✋

[graceful oasis]

So what have learned is that they are super dead.

[slim plume]

Crab Whisperer is stepping over their corpses like "Miss Keysha. Miss Keyshaaaa... MISS KEYSHA! Oh mah [HJONKING] Megabird they [HJONKING] dead-"

[proud fable]

Hi

Could be! After all it is a common secret that the isle elder was eeeh like it or not kind of marginalised by others (ex he doesnt appear at the eden gate). Additionally in the concepts he was the only elder to directly guide skykids towards sky. They seem to be very affectionate and bonded with skykids, and the first person to ever guide us upwards to the other realms. Moreover he is not even surprised to see us in contrary to most of the elders (excluding vault).

There is already a theory that The isle elder was the one who brought up Alef (the prince / maybe eventual king too). If this really happened, he could have tried to fix his mistake and make something that looks like alef but is more pure and would walk on his footstep, taking the right path where he got wrong!

Personally the idea that the isle elder is a caring father makes me cry from cuteness
||Now let me destroy this feeling to whoever had it and remind you that if the above is correct he didnt even love us in the first place and created us as tools, who have emotions and can love - sent in a vain journey in the world of sky were the only alive things are krills that want your light and mantas that kidnap you||

[torn eagle]

you know Ive been thinking about the whole daleth is outcast theory... most obvious as youve said is the fact that daleth isnt found in eden gate

another is before i used to think about the enchantment lights... we know in prophecy that the base elements were given to four elders. Earth for Prairie, Water for Forest, Wind for Valley, and Fire for Wasteland. That leaves Vault and Isle as the odd ones out... but theres also the fact that theres two more enchantment lights that arent part of the base elements, the red and purple light. With purple light obviously being associated with vault that would leave the red light to isle

But when shattering became active this made me rethink about it... it seems more plausible that red light is associated with eden... Im still finding things to relate it to the vault projection of the king holding an orb, Im having a hunch that it may be the red light, or my hunch is wrong and theres no correlation whatsoever. Red light has always been prominent in eden tho, so thats that

Im also looking into TLP in a different perspective but its extremely vague so Ill let it be for now

[graceful oasis]

Sips tea Fluffy mantas should be in game.

Floofy mantas. Something that would be great for this game. Reasons why it would be is:
*They may use their fluff to ride to winds like cotton balls of cuteness.
*They can be drawn with moths to be hugged and worshipped for their greatest.
*They probably can come in many sizes and fluffiness, since we have giant and small mantas.
*We can find out how the Spirits have clothing, thanks to the power of shepherding the mantas.
*They can also help make more spirits and even a new season if we go and extend this concept.
Fluffy mantas would be a beautiful thing to add to this game and as such we need to convince TGC that it would be. Now the reason why such beings haven’t been added is because it probably hasn’t been thought of, or it isn’t going to fit into the world of Sky. I heavily disagree to this since Fluffy mantas would objectively make for a great flying beast we can hug on command, and ride like any other manta.
Would this work out? I have no idea, I just really want a fluffy manta that we can all draw canonical then with fancanons. They probably would be buggy as hell but they would be a great existence to have in game. So in conclusion… Please we need more Fluffy mantas.
They could also be made into the best orbs that can be hugged and such when you fall asleep, just make sure the fluffy is suitable to be hugged, people can be allergic. Like come on, Fluffy mantas could give more sales then even in game items, and we can make in games items based off of the fluffy mantas, like a head accessory, a hat or something. As well capes can be based off the floofy mantas and an outfit as well, like the cuteness just would make the game 10x more popular TGC. Please we need Fluffy mantas very badly, it would help the game, make the community more engaged, and we have a new animal that isn’t just fish, krill, or every other manta. We would have the greatest of the fluffy manta, and we need a pet one too.

[sharp lichen]

Concerning your point about the Isle and Vault Elders not being surprised, they’re also the 2 elders that didn’t get an Elemental Light of Prophecy. So maybe they both were somewhat ostracized, but Isle a bit more

[atomic lava]

does anyone know what the bones in the graveyard are from

[sharp lichen]

I think riding fluffy mantas could be how we ride regular mantas, only a bit closer, where there’s a connection but you don’t actually touch.

[nimble ingot]

[gleaming glacier]

Some giant creature that’s now presumably extinct

[proud fable]

Vault could also be because it was a secret place where not many ppl had acess and lets not forget thet technically isle is not that much of sky (most of it excluding maybe the prophecy cave). It is literally earth. After all even in game the text Sky (the logo) appears beween isle and praire

[graceful oasis]

Yes

[frigid tinsel]

ah yes, lorechat's mascot
(I didn't make these)

[graceful oasis]

Sips tea Now excuse me my job is done… I am going to throw that piece of text into wishlist and ideas.

[frigid tinsel]

I am struggling to comprehend the fact that there are folk here who are never seen the legendary wooly manta until now

[atomic lava]

it's so cute ! where did it come from

[frigid tinsel]

best left up to mythology

[rigid mural]

omg wooly manta

[atomic lava]

so we came up with it?

[frigid tinsel]

during Flight, lorechat was musing about the Flight crew's clothing looking like they were with something, but there's no sheep-like creatures currently evident in Sky. the result was a breed of manta that grew wool

[graceful oasis]

Why do I feel like I was involved somehow yet not.

[atomic lava]

ohhh thats cool ! i love fluffy manta

[nimble ingot]

Random theory:
What if the elders thought at first that they were the only elder left, until the skykid showed up?

Let me ellaborate.
When we start the game, we can not visit any other realm before Dawn. The first elder we meet is Daleth, with their broken mask.
They are humble and help the skykid get started with their journey. Furing Light Awaits, the elder used to bestow the skykid with thier cape, until at some point with the inclusion of winged light (stars) that would do that instead.
Then, we go to day and awaken its elder, who is surprised to meet the skykid with the flame. Seeing it as a sign, the elder may have deduced that if the skykid were able to make it to them, that means the elder of the previous realm is alive. So they send the skykid along to the next realm, hoping that the next elder would be alive as well.
This carries on to the Vault elder, who, may have foreseen the arrival of the skykids, or perhaps have been receiving the light from the other elders.

Once all 6 elders meet in the second vault scene, they grant the skykid passage to Eden.
This in turn may explain why the Dawn elder was not on the Eden gate, because the elders of the past realms may not have been able to reach them. So each one made their own efforts to seal off their temples, and the Eden Gate until they were able to receive a sign of life.

What makes this theory to expand upon is how the elders are only encountered in certain situations, and hardly have been updated since.
While the season would make references to them, there has at this current moment not yet an encounter with the elders themselves/directly.
||I have peaked ahead to the last parts of this season. Though will patiently wait till that has been formally released to the live game||

[nimble ingot]

Legend has it that they may have come from the bearhug hermit's soft fur.
Though the Wooly Manta is a beloved mascot of Lorechat.

[foggy lotus]

when woolly manta

[proud fable]

The lights are for me a verrrry weird case. First of all as you highlighted there are two lights in sky: the enchantment lights and the prophecy lights. If we take the lights of prophecy we have

Blue light = water trial = wisdom of patience
Yellow light = earth trial = wisdom of resilience
Cyan light = air trial = wisdom of balance
Orange light = fire trial = wisdom of Courage

My poor thoughts for this are that the realms each were given x lights (maybe for some reason maybe not thats not what i am going to talk about). Just a small speculation session: Almost each of the realms had a problem because of the lights they got - because they misused or overused them.

ex: Forest --> Wisdom of patience (maybe for power???) they lost patience and overexploited nature
Valley --> Balance ( Definitely not - for the most glorious era i wouldnt call that balance - poor / rich differences in the town layout - the underside of the city literally became a wasteland See picture)
Dusk --> Courage?? Yes obviously - too much tho to the point they had the means of having a war over there etc etc...

This could extend even further if we also associate
a) The above misuse for each realm
b) The theory of the 7 deadly sins and the corresponding sins for each of the misuses for the 4 realms

( I would do it but im too sleepy rn - i want your opinions tho o' mighty lore folks )

||also dont krill me ping is off||

[torn eagle]

fire light is orange btw not red

[proud fable]

bfiajhkdjfhakdsf im sleepy ty lemme edit it

btw good morning (in my timezone)

[sharp lichen]

First, we know that the enchantment lights and prophecy lights are related very closely. Second, we see how each Elder lost their virtue (Prairie sleeps, showing no tenacity, Forest rushes to get your light, Valley only cares about showing off, and Wasteland nearly gives up altogether)

[proud fable]

searches for the prophecy doc gimme a sec

[torn eagle]

baud is the prophecy doc

anywho now that you mention it that makes sense baud :0

[sharp lichen]

I also think that the Red and Purple orbs are just the natural mind powers of the Prophets, considering how much they uncover the future (red light) and use their mind (purple light)

[graceful oasis]

And if we stare at the clothes of Wind and Earth, their capes are severely purple for some reason.

[proud fable]

[graceful oasis]

Like I understand the first Prophet having like a water based cape, but the second and third Prophet have Purple capes? That just means they are important and have magic future sight.

[rigid mural]

i made this emote for my server just because they are sooo cute c:

[sharp lichen]

I do think all of them have future sight, but yeah

[wheat cypress]

I have deeply enjoyed reading the past hour of chat huhu

[keen shore]

I’m late but this was my only wooly manta contribution bc I could Not resist

[wheat cypress]

I had a theory for the whole Daleth exile situation but it was so long ago I'll have to rebuild it...

[frigid tinsel]

every time I see this I lose my mind, it's so good, and the quality of detail 👌 omg Salem, I love your art

[keen shore]

THANK YOU SM,
I want to visualize more theory stuff from this chat but I haven’t seen anything that caught my brain recently. I’m still shocked the wooly mantas got so far popularity wise because there’s so few of us here, but I mean, looking at their design I’m not THAT shocked

[nova meadow]

dont forget the butterflies they kidnap you too

[soft timber]

Let's just say the void foe the current season is concerningly larger than what I expected to be

[wheat cypress]

no kidding.... I kept flying for quite some time before I hit a wind wall, not to mention that this may very well be the same void that we find the light boi that we hug pre-orbit..... and thus, they're in there somewhere

[soft timber]

I felt this to the max, like I thought it would be like a small area but nope

[graceful oasis]

Sips tea So what what if the Void is in the Diamond and the Diamond has layers…

[rigid mural]

onions like ogres

[keen shore]

Eden Diamond canonically made of cheese

[wheat cypress]

I think this may be true honestly... not to mention also that the coloring of the elder's cutscenes is awfully similar, what if all the elder's are in there, and sky kids are able to tap into the diamond with their minds without going inside. That would explain how we meet light boi without our sky kid ever making it to the diamond physically. In other words, the diamond could very well contain a full other dimension with many pockets that each elder occupies, along with one for light boi and the ancient memories, and the new shattering area. Who knows what other abstract stuff is in there

[frigid tinsel]

maybe the Elders aren't necessarily trapped in their own personal pocket dimensions, but rather the void/limbo

[rigid mural]

no or else i would have eated it

[wheat cypress]

the diamond might exert a stronger influence on space than we think. it could hold a full void within it, able to contain all the elders in it among other things like memories without them ever coming into contact with one another

[nimble ingot]

Sky lore is like an onion.

[wheat cypress]

I actually had this concern before, regarding the prince in the diamond theory, how does our sky kid ever make it to the diamond if after the hug our sky kid supposedly cracks out of their rock shell, far from the diamond itself? This void theory would explain this, that the void (diamond) is accessible not physically but mentally

[frigid tinsel]

maybe the void exists on an adjacent plane of existence, close enough that we could fall into?

[wheat cypress]

If this were true, then we are accessing the void from our earliest sky days, coming into contact with it every time we meet an elder

[graceful oasis]

It probably does contain a entire dimension in some form because the amount of light inside it may have caused this. It holds memories and a hella lot of other stuff we don’t know about it. I believe the Elders are in their own spaces since if we see how their spaces are, they are connected through the candles we light up. The Diamond space is holding memories of the explosion and more, but it also holds different layers of importance. The Shiny boy of Eden is at a upper layer while the Space we get teleported to is on a lower layer. This is mostly thanks to both spaces Skies, The Shiny boy is a upper layer thanks to the closer rocks and more clear rocks. The other layer is far lower since the sky above is much farther away.

[wheat cypress]

agreed, and in some of the elder's pocket dimensions (iirc specifically isle and prairie) we can see the mountain far away, although this may be a mental projection of the elder's...... but yes you explained it very well @graceful oasis

[keen shore]

YEAH I’ve been saying limbo feels like an elder cutscene for ages, and if that takes place inside the diamond, which makes a lot of sense, then the rest of them should too. The shard memories also do

[wheat cypress]

the void in short then, contains ancient memories, elder's souls, the shattering area, and shiny boi....... this thing is massive lol

and somehow the void manages to keep all these separated, as if they were REALLY in different locations. Maybe the diamonds void is like an invisible reality to us and has the same surface area as the rest of the kingdom... idk tho

[nimble ingot]

you have a point.
The void in Sky, feels like its own realm, almost like Orbit.
Especially with how both are polar opposites and have limited way of accessing them.

As in, there is not necessarily a portal or temple dedicated to accessing the entire realm.

[wheat cypress]

also major point, this would explain why we cannot go to the shattering area directly in any way. We are forced to go not via realm, not via walking or flying, but we have to go via constellation. This could very well support the idea that the void isn't accessible, physically but rather mentally

[graceful oasis]

The Elders is probably connected to the Limbo, but have more control in some form. Since the most of Limbo we get to see is The Reflective limbo. The Elders are less stuck in spaces that can connect to each other, but need help be connected out by light.

[rigid mural]

Have I told you about the planes theory, cos it would be very interesting with those observations

[graceful oasis]

No, please tell us more.

[wheat cypress]

as in planes of existence? haven't heard of it but it would sound like it ties into this discussion

[rigid mural]

Basically, it kinda explains why we got trials and limbo, they're adjacent planes of existence; i illustrated that at some point and it really is easier to visualize it that way, lemme look it up (or redraw it)

[wheat cypress]

oh my gosh you're right... the trials have the same void coloring too don't they?

[rigid mural]

YEAH HERE LOOK

[white junco]

love this theory

[rigid mural]

it's one of my faves, credits to spade for the idea tho

[wheat cypress]

wowwww.... this is well illustrated... makes tons of sense, I wonder now with all this new info, how could we redraw this to include the void

[nimble ingot]

Most, if not all, opportunities to reach the void required meditation.
At the temples, the prophecy trials, eden (though dying and becoming a statue is an extreme measure for meditation), and even the guide or shards. (The Abyss Leviathan may also count, though garners the same restraint as in Eden's case).
It is also interesting to point out how both may have debatable arguments about the skykids visiting these realms are physically there, or just projecting themselves (either astral projection or a mental connection)

[graceful oasis]

Yep, different realms.

[rigid mural]

OH YEAH FUN FACT ABOUT THE TRIALS I THINK THEY SHOW A KIND OF TIMELINE

[wheat cypress]

ooooooooo

my brain is running around in happy circles rn... what a fun discussion lol

[latent lark]

Is that a fro in the second pic?

[rigid mural]

Water - very edenlike mountain with a beam visible from all the way to the start
Earth - beam is now surrounded by buildings, still visible from the start
Air - no beam, the end isnt entirely visible anymore
Fire - no beam, no visible end until you reach it

Feels to me like water is the origin with everyone happy, full of light and all is well
Earth could be the start of industrialisation with stuff built around the beam to harness its power (the buildings even float up or back down there)
Air seems to be when they lose sight of the light, things are falling apart
Fire is when darkness took over

[latent lark]

Ooo good observation

[white junco]

ohhhhh that makes so much sense. shaking you

[wheat cypress]

OWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH MASSIVE IDEA....ONE MOMENT PLEASE

[graceful oasis]

Honestly that is a good correlation.

[sharp lichen]

The Prophecy Stan approves! Maybe the Prophets didn’t know this at the time

[rigid mural]

or the trials themselves are the prophecy

[wheat cypress]

I SEE AN IMAGE CORRELATION HERE BUT I HAVE TO GO GET PHOTOS

[white junco]

[explosion sfxs] /positive

[graceful oasis]

The trials tell a story, without exploitation telling it…Looks at the games lores-
Ya this works out.

[white junco]

ooo can we maybe connect that with the intro text for each trial?

Trial of Water - Time divides each contender.
Trial of Earth - Tenacity reveals the way home.
Trial of Air - Master the harmony of heights.
Trial of Fire - Only the brave will attain the light.

[sharp lichen]

Eh, I’m not sure about this, since the murals paint a far different picture than the Triaos

[rigid mural]

Do they ?
Maybe the prophets saw something we didn't.

[nimble ingot]

These and the other void elder concept art, have a familiar feel to the fire trial.

[white junco]

it's the cave of prophecies. plural

[frigid tinsel]

yall were talking about planes of existence without me???

[graceful oasis]

Sadly….. yes.

[nimble ingot]

feel free to hop on in.

[white junco]

so where would orbit fit in with all the planes? the ground that you walk on sings the same song as limbo and the shattering void

[nimble ingot]

In the heavens as it seems like it when we ascend above the clouds.

[white junco]

oh btw. does the floor in orbit recharge you just like the shattering void does?

[graceful oasis]

Orbit is in space… so that totally means it is 10x more important then the void.

[graceful oasis]

No, if I remember correctly….

[rigid mural]

slowly when you walk towards the door

[keen shore]

I don’t think the trials take place in the Eden Diamond like the other “void like” realms because it wouldn’t make a lot of sense story wise, [like, how would they get there?] but I can totally see them inside a different diamond, maybe ones inside the statues or something. It makes sense that meditating would make them light up/start working if they’re in darkstone, because that’s how it works for darkstone boats too

[nimble ingot]

It is difficult to say.
Skykids tend to passively charge while in Orbit.
Perhaps it is just the abundant light surrounding the skykids.

[haughty wraith]

i thought it was the clone of you that recharges you, is it the floor itself?

[frigid tinsel]

you only recharge in frozen memories when jumping or landing on the floor, not walking across the floor

[rigid mural]

I think trials are just on another plane, perhaps closer to the elders

[white junco]

and the floor makes a noise every time you strike the ground. works with emotes, it's actually really cool

[lucid fable]

Hey, does anyone know how to learn spirits personalities more? I started looking at their sprites while reliving and previous ts hints. But sometimes there's a spirit with only few hints and no interesting sprites, like Provoking Performer

[frigid tinsel]

yea that's it. sometimes spirits will make a cameo in other spirits' memories or Days of Eventss but that's it for canon info

[rigid mural]

Provoking performer was featured in this year's Days of Fortune but that's it :(

[lucid fable]

That's sad... I'm really interested in spirits

[frigid tinsel]

fanfiction time

[white junco]

woo!

[uncut pond]

I personally believe the trials occur in a mindspace closer to that of Vault, since both share a very dream-like vibe, although maybe the trials are just a different plane more akin to the Elders' cutscenes

[lucid fable]

But without hints you know almost nothing about them

[rigid mural]

I like to think the Vault is closer to the Elder so yeah !!!

[uncut pond]

Yeah I like that theory too! But tbh the whole mindspace/reality layers/pocket dimension thing is probably one of the weirdest and most complex unexplained things in Sky

[white junco]

a couple spirits have personalities you can figure out by their cutscenes and general appearance, other ones you just kinda have to guess at

[lucid fable]

Yep ikr

[uncut pond]

It's very up to interpretation when it comes to most spirit personalities, for example a lot of people in this chat like to see Crab Whisperer as a complete menace to society

[graceful oasis]

That is funny to me for some reason

[uncut pond]

Another example is I personally like to see Mellow Musician as someone who generally seems chill but has like a "hidden" absolutely unhinged part of themself, the potential to go completely feral (see: how they got their cape)

[rigid mural]

you had to be there

[lucid fable]

And then it turns out that you all were wrong

[rigid mural]

im 100% right that crab whisperer would hold us upside down by the ankle

[slim plume]

They'd definitely do that and I'd be terrified

[keen shore]

it started when I was bullying vela w it and just kind of burgeoned, I think that started the cheese meme as well… although I have not been cheesed in ages

[wheat cypress]

OK ok so I went and got photos to show yall the imagery similarities, in water we see the mountain, that ones kinda obvious. In earth we see the asteroids and the diamond up close in a sense, because that's where the beam is. In air we see a similar shape in the ice pillars to that of Edens castle, and also the light child within it. In fire finally, we plunge unto the dark orb, whereas in orbit we plunge into a light orb. "Only the brave will attain the light"

[uncut pond]

I arrived to lorechat too late to witness most interesting events sadly, seems like you people have been having fun for ages

[rigid mural]

days of bloom 2022 in a nutshell

[keen shore]

I will never forget them beating us up and also laidback pioneer asking us for headpats, I lost it both times

[rigid mural]

real

[frigid tinsel]

so I had had the idea that darkness hides petrified spirits in an adjacent plane, which is why we can't immediately see them. it takes activating and following spirit memories to be able to see the husk. so the spirit memories are making us aware of this adjacent plane in order to find the spirits. but why does darkness take petrified spirits to this other plane?

what if darkness is native to another plane of existence that intersects with the Sky world? originally it could occasionally move into the Sky plane, hence why there are petrified ancestor spirits who seemed to have lived very early in the kingdom's timeline, but with the pollution during the kingdom's darkstone era, more "rifts" opened or that got wider and it became easier for darkness to drift into the Sky plane. since part of the darkness plane overlays the Sky plane, it's easy to pull

perhaps limbo/the void/frozen memories are squarely in that dark plane of existence. not even adjacent anymore, we are just in that dark plane. when we die, when swallowed by the leviathan, in the frozen memories, we are no longer in the Sky plane but in the darkness plane.

[wheat cypress]

Anyways I just spent like 10 minutes getting those screenshots but now that it's all put together its not that good lol

[keen shore]

I still have spades video of cw chibi falling somewhere

[slim plume]

Top 10 moments taken before disaster

[keen shore]

THIS IS SUCH A COOL IDEA ,
eating it

[wheat cypress]

yEs...... almost like the opposite of orbit. We enter the jagged diamond to the dark realm, and we enter the pure circle to the lightest realm in sky, orbit

[rigid mural]

OH YEAH THIS RULES

do you think the lightseekers would try to close these rifts ? since they seek light
because closing darkness rifts would make finding light easier

[frigid tinsel]

Trying to play a peaceful song when CW interrupted me

[keen shore]

revenge for your crimes

[slim plume]

The fact I recognised the song immediately

[rigid mural]

they are enhencing your song with crab sounds, dont be ungrateful

[wheat cypress]

I've loved today's discussion yall but I must be on my way... lol bai

[keen shore]

WHAT SONG IS IT, he plays it all the time and I have no idea what it is. I call it his ringtone

[frigid tinsel]

I was recording LoZ stuff for my LoZ friend

[uncut pond]

Void of Shattering really said "you're going to the shadow realm, Jimbo!"

[rigid mural]

ALASDAIR'S RINGTONE 💀
CACKLING

[frigid tinsel]

It’s Lost Woods OST from Ocarina of Time. I’ve never played any LoZ games myself but the soundtrack slaps

[sharp lichen]

This is Days of Bloom 2022 in a nutshell

[fair rock]

Is it safe to wonder how the each of the season spirits died and that the quest spirit for that season is the last of the group to die thus their soul is stuck in the world?

[slim plume]

Cannot believe that that was the first vid that came up with the search bar-

[keen shore]

Yes! Although it might be the other way around where the guide died first, as shown by the murals on forgotten ark evidencing that the guide there died before everyone else. Personally I think the difference might be a gameplay mechanic thing or that it’s something else but I have heard thst idea

[rigid mural]

I like these kinds of theories bc it echoes the graveyard grim beliefs, where the first soul in a graveyard becomes the psychopomp leading the others to the afterlife, hence why dogs or other animals were buried first so a human wouldn't be stuck here with that job

[uncut pond]

Imagine if someone buried a cat first and then whenever someone has to be guided to the afterlife the cat just ignores it

[rigid mural]

thats bc you didnt "pspspspspsps" them

[slim plume]

I have very dark headcanons (pun intended) on the Dreams and Abyss seasonal spirits (specifically how skater girl died and how Abyss Guide and Cackling Canoneer died)

[uncut pond]

It might just be my cat being weird but I have never seen my cat react to "pspsps", or anything else really

[uncut pond]

I can already tell what you think happened to Abyss crew but I'm interested to hear more about your Dreams theory

[fair rock]

Now that I think about if we went with what the person said about the quest spirit being the first to die and then guiding the others. Would it be wrong to assume that the skater girl's mother (the quest spirit for that season) to have died early of sickness after teaching her daughter how to skate and spin?

[lucid fable]

Also why is there "dying" spirit if they all are dead?

[rigid mural]

my cat doesnt react to anything but me meowing back and forth with her

[keen shore]

My cat reacts to me sneezing and laughing with a very concerned expression

[rigid mural]

Likely died before becoming a spirit, they could just look like that in the cutscene because it's a memory and not the real deal

[fair rock]

How do you sound when you laugh or sneeze??

[keen shore]

achoo! and hehe, like that
look up how foxes sound when they’re happy and that’s how my laugh sounds

[frigid tinsel]

Spirit memories depict the ancestors’ actions when they were alive. When dying, you are technically still alive for a time, so Fainting Warrior’s spirit memories shows them alive even though they’re actively dying.

As for why spirit memories show certain actions over others, I think it may depend on the location the wandering ancestor spirit petrified. I have a whole theory about spirits losing light and shedding their memories of being alive in their location before they petrify I don’t have to go into rn. Basically that light in Sky is tied to memories, so if a spirit loses light passively, they may be forgetting. The spirit memories we collect are the ones the spirits shed.

[white junco]

can you send me the video i don't remember this

[keen shore]

apparently it was someone else but for the life of me I cannot remember who. let me see

APPARENTLY IT WAS SLINK

[white junco]

TOO POWERFUL

[keen shore]

the baffled honk is what really gets me

I confused them with you, because you posted a video where laidback pioneer made fish noises

[frigid tinsel]

famous last words

[keen shore]

ALRJAODUAODJOSSODOFI

[frigid tinsel]

I haven't thought about the others

[keen shore]

rip shush … 💔 happier times for them

[gleaming glacier]

Oo? I’d love to hear them! I could make a guess on Cannoneer but I’d love to know the other two

[low spindle]

Are there images of what eden might of looked like before the storm? Or concepts of them,,

Im assuming this is where i ask since its somewhat lore and story related sfgbeja

[boreal hearth]

hands u the mic we are LISTENING

[frigid tinsel]

There is this clip seen from an IGN video on Sky: Light Awaits

[raw spear]

I like to think that the mother statues all across Eden are either technology from the vault or representation of the mother bird so she can be with us in our journeys

[frigid tinsel]

Mother statues?

[narrow crescent]

The ones that look like the home/return shrine and the ones that you light up just before and during pnr.

[frigid tinsel]

There are so many names for those

[white junco]

i think they look like skykids

the one at home is about the same height as a skykid using a huge spell (i think it was a huge spell i can’t remember very well) and the smaller ones seem to fit within the range of heights a skykid can be

[keen shore]

they remind me of night elder but I do think they’re supposed to be skykids,… the expression always throws me off is all
they also kinda have the shape of a skykid kneeling with their cape around them

[white junco]

i made sooo many graphics for these guys

i'm still really sad they removed that skykid statue in prairie villages, i was using that for lore

the pose reminds me of a couple different things

[regal forge]

Hey scaredy cadet has the same mask design as crab whisperer the stripe is just on the other side

[frigid tinsel]

Yea :)

[regal forge]

I vote they’re a cousin far enough from the main family tree they are simply classified as “removed”

[keen shore]

I really like the idea of the assembly kids being the lightseekers apprentices :] there’s the same number of each, their masks all match like that, and both are forest seasons . also I think it’s cute

[rigid mural]

YOU
I LOVE YOU
banging my fists on the table and pointing at you

[keen shore]

THANK YOU I REALLY LIKE IT AND I THINK IT IS SO SWEET!!

[rigid mural]

AND YEAH I LOVE THAT
especially because the shrines are kinda associated with light or safety (some carry fire, others help you teleport home, and the one at home holds seasonal candles and hearts

[keen shore]

Imagining the assembly scouts following lightseeker guide around like ducklings

[frigid tinsel]

Lightseeker ducklings

[polar forge]

Who has an image of the Eden kings crown (concepts or whatnot are oki!)

[frigid tinsel]

First is concept art, second is a promo image from Light Awaits

[polar forge]

inhale
PSPSPSPSPSPSPS EDEN CROWN COME HEREEEE

[frigid tinsel]

Which might’ve turned into this

[polar forge]

PSPSPS

[keen shore]

a substitute can be found in the prophecy ult mask if you are ok with going dog mode

[gleaming glacier]

STEALING THIS

[abstract badger]

Hey hey, my buddy Dwayne! (I call them Dwayne)

[keen shore]

WOOO! I’m glad you like it, I always get happy when people agree with & use my headcanons/theories :}

[torn eagle]

This made me have a double take on the masks of lightseekers and assembly and got very distracted so heres a very late acknowledgement

[violet sundial]

Personally I think at least some of the assembly kids could be the actual children of the Lightseekers spirits. Ash had mentioned it indirectly i think

[sharp lichen]

I've always theorized the Assembly Scouts to be inspired by Lightseekers, like role models, rather than being coherently related

[violet sundial]

Ohhh that’s an interesting idea too

Scolding student dreams of being a scholar + teacher and as such bosses around Botanist 24/7

[sharp lichen]

Especially considering how children usually look up to famed figures in the past and try to emulate their style, even if they don't know much about them

[pastel brook]

Using emulators is against the Sky TOS, @sharp lichen. Please don’t use or discuss emulators here.

[lavish spoke]

Do you have some images? It's the first time I heard of such a thing.

[white junco]

i do! it was on the middle island of prairie villages for a while before it was removed

[lavish spoke]

WAIT THIS?

[copper saffron]

YO

[paper grove]

It was removed?? :(((

[lavish spoke]

I didn't even notice when they removed it

[white junco]

i checked today, it’s no longer there :/

[lavish spoke]

I think it's been removed a long time

[white junco]

maybe 1-2 months at most? or maybe 3 months… i’m not sure i’ve lost all track of time at this point

[latent lark]

Has the dog been talked about lately? it seems like it’s the only living creature that isn’t light nor darkness. Like the last organic creature of the land.

[stark quarry]

This statue really assemble skykid and its look fairly new.. do you think a spirit put it there before it was remove?

[gleaming glacier]

Perhaps a statue of the Prince

[white junco]

the prince is never depicted with wings, i think it’s an ordinary skykid.

side note, this statue was supposedly introduced during early development of the guide feature, so it may not be lore relevant

[mossy brook]

heyyy lore chat… have any clue what happened in the sky kingdom before even ancestors were around? I’m curious and it’s been bouncing in my head for a while

[nova meadow]

A little old, but I forgot to add that you see this manta come out of the prairie constellation. This could hint towards the manta itself or mutated mantas originating from prairie and being taken somewhere else for experimenting

[torn eagle]

When does the multiwinged manta come out of the prairie constellation? /gen

[nova meadow]

wdym by /gen

[torn eagle]

Genuine

Its a genuine question

[latent lark]

There was the kingdom of the dark where the krill ruled. Once ancestors rolled around, they brought the light with them, burying the darkness underground until the ancestors discovered/tried to use the dark elements…at least that’s my interpretation (tho mind you i’m not caught up on the confirmed lore)

[nova meadow]

All the constellations are hung in the air on that floor of vault, when the multi winged manta flies in with the lanterns, it comes from the direction of where the prairie constellation is hung

[torn eagle]

Ahh thx for answering I understand now

[outer hare]

bobbit ^^

[autumn forge]

Hi lore chat

Im taking your headcanons and theories with me i am cherishing them

[keen wren]

Headcanons yoinked

[languid island]

So is it generally accepted that it's a manta too ( and it has two children as well)?

[proud fable]

Morning lore chat

[nimble ingot]

Morning.
Fine weather for it in Sky.
With a chance of Falling Shards though.

[gleaming glacier]

My least favorite weather

[slim plume]

Lmao I had to go sneep snorp but I will indulge now, even if it's a tad bit late.

I headcanon that the Dreams skater girl died before she actually had her debut in the Coliseum. How she died, I haven't really figured it out, but I am married to angst so I'll figure something out. Her memories are scattered all around (including Coliseum), but to actually see her debut you must meditate at an elder statue. Plus, once you meditate, you seem to literally be living in the moment with the skater girl (i.e. the spotlight shining on you and how you finish the performance as one act). Once you complete the quest, it says "You have experienced how the dream came true. Return to the Spirit in the village." I interpret this as you making the dream come true, as the skater girl died before she ever had the chance.

An unfinished dream, and you're the only one who can complete it.

[proud fable]

Oml help hope they shake my brain a bit to be able to make more head-canons

[nimble ingot]

Welp, at least the shards would enforce the idea of skykids helping each other lol

[proud fable]

||I was clearing one today and i told a skykid that honking attracts crab. Then they sticked to me and kept honking till i lost 3 wl ||

[nimble ingot]

Oof.

[slim plume]

Bruh

[nimble ingot]

welp, that may count towards that the lore of the skykid can only be meta, or have a duality between what the game intends to portray skykids, and how the players act as them.

[formal oxide]

hello everyone im popping in randomly to share a thought. yknow what woukd be fun. having like, a blog/app where people could have their own "tab" for their lore headcanons for sky. id love to read theories of individual players who have expanded ideas that could be long enough for a few pages but its so hard to track individual theories in a discord channel

[nimble ingot]

Fanon: Skykids can be cruel and evil at times.
Just like real life children can be.

No matter how much the world and all of its fiction would have children represent innocence and kindness.
Sadly, there is not means to fully remove the idea of children can be bad.
Bad children may vary in behaviour and motivation, based on their upbringing, choices and situations. Though most cases would include the child making a poor choice and acting accordingly.

[nimble ingot]

Indeed.
A place to curate the lore and post headcanons.
While some can remain in the general section, those that become part of a theory with more weight to it can possibly gain its own section to expand upon.

[uncut pond]

I'm sorry I just had to

[frigid tinsel]

If you consider skykids paragons, they could do bad things if they think they are doing good. Not necessarily convincing themselves that the bad thing is actually good, but but under the idea that their actions are “for the greater good.”

[nimble ingot]

True.
The lore of a true skykid may be a neutral creature with a positive force. Though a player as a skykid is chaotic and unpredictable.
Some may be kind, while others are indifferent. Some would help you out, and others would do what they can to make things worse.

[dire agate]

What are your ideas about the Vault of Knowledge and its inhabitants? We know they stored thousands of the power crystals in lanterns, and had an order of (telekinetic?) priests that may have also kept ghost mantas in the upper floors.

[sharp lichen]

Yes another skybot hater

[floral grove]

I like to think that the priests from Vault of Knowledge are blessed. When an Ancestor is blessed, they become affiliated with the Light. When one is affiliated with the Light, they can utilize Light using their minds. This might explain why the priests, the Elders (according to Forest Elder's cutscene) and the Sky Kids can use telekinesis to move the stones in Vault

The little stones might have been infused with Darkstone in order for them to be moved around with Light. We've seen fleets of gondolas be powered with Darkstone once they get activated with Light and we've also seen Memory Lanterns levitate when their tiny Darkstone pieces get lit by fire. I don't doubt that the special stones Sky Kids telekinetically lift and light up have Darkstone cores

Long story short:
The closer you are to Light, the more likely you can use Light as a way to telekinetically move items with embedded or infused Darkstones

[floral grove]

There's also a theory that Vault is one big illusion that the Vault Elder put up. The illusion is the multistorey tower that Sky Kids see and interact with while the real Vault is the room that Sky Kids end up in after the Vault Elder cutscene. It explains why the floors get architecturally irrational the higher you go and why you have to climb up a flight of stairs in order to reach Eden instead of it leading directly to Eden's entrance since we would have theoretically reached the peak of Eden from how high we traveled in Vault

[rocky granite]

A group of my friends and i have been posting our lore ideas on a shared instagram account for a while now so if you're interested its called that_edencore_lore we kind of just started it because there wasnt really a space for that aside from this channel

[formal oxide]

ill check it out! 💛

[floral grove]

Cool posts but what is this-

[rocky granite]

Hahahahaha um barbie has gotten out of hand

I forgot what started it but somehow barbie is shipped with venti and the king but also only when venti is bald because that obviously makes sense

[floral grove]

Bald venti sounds cursed

[rocky granite]

Yea I cant say it isnt haha

[timber pine]

Anyone know this One?

[floral grove]

I interpret that as an artistic depiction of the King showing/making the diamond that would sustain Eden with power. Probably the same diamond we see in PNR

The swirly things kinda remind me of the portal from Orbit though. Maybe the King made a portal back to the heavens for the Ancestors to return as stars?

[timber pine]

[frail marten]

Guys that may be random but why has the laidback pioneer the tear on his mask? It looks like the teardrop tattoos murderers go get themselfes o.O

[keen shore]

probably to reference the rain in forest! I remember something about the lightseekers masks being reflective of each realm they’re in, although I can’t remember where it was

[wheat cypress]

where on earth is this from ????

[timber pine]

Eden, after you enter the first room, look to the right there are some white candle

[wheat cypress]

it must be new then.... I've never ever ever seen that before

what a mural

[formal oxide]

yea, this mural was included in the season's update!

[wheat cypress]

@keen shore looks like it's time to update that masterlist of yours

[keen shore]

I have the pictures, I just keep forgetting/not having the energy to update it

[wheat cypress]

in time, in time

[keen shore]

the masterlist is a struggle, because it’s really helpful and I’m very proud of it, but very slowly it is becoming more of a chore than a passion

[wheat cypress]

ohh, well ya know I could help u with it 🙃

the lore community is all about group effort right? :

[amber sapphire]

what masterlist? can I see?

[keen shore]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQgj2Ii1A9p1kSly9rehvZU-fPsKtGazuEGvE3Od-Bg/edit this one! it’s a masterlist of every mural/mural adjacent thing in Sky… well almost every, I need to update it rq

[dry ivy]

Oh really? Interesting—!

[languid island]

About the Vault 5th floor cosmic creature with two children, to me it looks like a snail rather than a manta

[rigid mural]

sea slug :)

[slim plume]

Why is that so accurate to the spirit manta oml-

[wheat cypress]

oh my gosh it is

[nimble ingot]

Saw Angel Jellyfish and can't help but imagine them being in Sky ❤️

[bronze arch]

So what exactly is the “prophecy” from the Season of Prophecy?

[nimble ingot]

Either the arrival of the Skykids.
Or the Ancestors finding the Sky Prince/Future King

[regal forge]

Anyone want to hear my random list of sky expressions I’ve come up with?
Like how we say ‘kick rocks’ for ‘go away’
Or
‘Keep an eye out’ for ‘be careful’

[bronze arch]

Sure

[regal forge]

Brilliant.
The first ones pretty easy since we’ve seen sky bot say “oh my starry elders!”
Which is like an ‘oh dear’ statement or an exclamation
I think other additions could be “dear eden” or “Eden’s king”
For some drama
I also think
“The ancient trials” could be used as a way to say something is impossible or doesn’t exist.
Maybe even a ‘go away’ if you said “go pass the trials.” Or “when you pass the trials.”
If they’re ancient they’re likely only legend by now

[hushed steeple]

i was flying around season of flight area and saw stones being used as a way of getting info down, and im thinking that they used like a luminescent ink which imbeds into the stones locking in info.
and just like the diamond blocks in vault u view the message as a hologram 😄
edit: In mini form >:D

[regal forge]

I bet “unseal eden” would be a metaphor for something

“On the stars” could be another exclamation when someone scares an ancestor or something-
Maybe a promise? Like “I promise on the stars”
I just think the kind of metaphors or other ways of saying things we have would apply to this world too in a different fashion

[slim plume]

To be fair the one that I like to use for my sky kids is "By the Bird!" as an exclamation, similar to how we use "Oh my god!"

[regal forge]

I vote entitled people get nicknamed ‘Meg’ like megabird
Instead of ‘Karen’ you have a ‘Meg’

[slim plume]

OH MY GODS THAT'S AMAZING

Imagine all the skids actually named/nicknamed 'Meg' just standing around like tho 💀✋

[nimble ingot]

We can also include expressions around the word, crab as a skykid exclamation (like a swear word)
Like "Oh Crab!" or "You Crab tosser" (meaning, one who takes crabs to someone and lets it chase them).

[slim plume]

I feel like "Crab" would be the more casual swear while "Krill" would be taken more seriously.

I.e. "Find krill." being the equivalent of "Get lost." or smthn like that

[red needle]

I have asked this question in another channel, but why does everyone have white hair in the game? I am trying to find an answer to this…

[onyx swallow]

i think because it’s a neutral thing maybe

[red needle]

Neutral in what way?

[slim plume]

I think it's more of a stylistic choice. Not really anything to do with lore or whatever, the hair's just white because it is

And I think what the person meant by "neutral" is in how we don't have white hair irl (unless you're old and even then, that's only for some people). It's more 'detached' from our reality (as in there's no inherit bias/prejudice when seeing the white hair).

But maybe the hair's white because our skids are made of light? It'd make sense

[red needle]

Yeah maybe that too. I just like finding and exploring these questions, so everyone can have their own idea and make something out of it.

Aren’t other things made of light but have different colours too? Or maybe it’s like, all the colors make white and it gives this result.

[onyx swallow]

yes, like maybe it’s so they don’t exclude anyone, so they went with white, but i like the idea of our skids being made of light

[red needle]

That gives me ideas.

I am writing that down.

[frigid tinsel]

writing this down for fic

[slim plume]

It could also just be that it's the natural hair colour. We haven't seen anyone (Elders, Ancestors/Spirits, Sky kids themselves) with a different colored hair, so it's really just likely this is overthinking and everyone's just vibing with natural hair colour

[red needle]

Yes.

With the possibility to… dye them. Not saying more!

[nimble ingot]

fanon for my skykid.
When they run afoul with a krill, they tend to say "Bad Sushi" as an insult to them.
Especially when they feel like the krill would be using dirty tactics to get to skykids.

[frigid tinsel]

Oh I was referring to the skykid expressions lol

[onyx swallow]

also y’all we go bald sometimes eh

[nimble ingot]

In the concept art, there were options for colouring a skykid's hair, though that supposedly was dropped upon considering that while the player can customise skykids, the devs wanted the character to be recognisable as a skykid.
Ergo, no matter what the skykid has as cosmetics, they would 9/10 have dark skin, glowing eyes, have a cape and have light hair.

[red needle]

Oop-

[onyx swallow]

it be tough

[frigid tinsel]

True although Juggler’s hair has a yellow streak in it. While skykids’ hair may be white cos they’re made of light, maybe living ancestors had material hair which they could dye.
Juggler is the exception.

[polar forge]

Thank you for this info

[nimble ingot]

The exception to this rule with the hair would be clothing items (like hats), or accessories.
The Kizuna AI hair for instance has pink streaks in it, making it a little unique in that regard, although the majority of the hair is still that pearlescent white.

[red needle]

I need to find the concept art somewhere. It seems interesting, they would look a little bit more like humans if we give them coloured hair, indeed. (Even if it is green or purple) but there are ways!

[frigid tinsel]

Hair accessories are moreso clothing items rather than hair. While idk what’s preventing skykids from coloring their hair more often, they can project clothing of a variety of colors. Nothing stopping them from adorning them to their heads.

[red needle]

And that is exactly what my character is doing!

[nimble ingot]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

[red needle]

…I need this.

Thank you! They thought about nice hair styles too.

[inner cloud]

time to become a laser pointer disco ball

[nimble ingot]

yup, there was even an old livestream interview where staff mentioned that they went over a couple of concepts for skykids.
They ranged from human children, to creature like humanoids, golems, spirits, clouds creatures or even a few combinations

[red needle]

I hope they didn’t give up on these ideas or that they will find a way to do it in a way that’s possible I guess, sometimes it really feels like there aren’t a lot of creatures in the sky kingdom. (There are a lot more probably)

[inner cloud]

random theory but maybe it deals with our rebirth? Light colors show life and rebirth so maybe that’s why the hair is always (mainly) white

like after this season - since the theory is the shards are because so many skids are being reborn that Eden is going haywire - we can maybe get different colored hair because the cycle is messed up

[red needle]

A way to dye it maybe? It gave the crabs a free spiky red haircut after all. Would be cool but energy draining.

[nimble ingot]

From what I have seen in 2 years and from reading, watching, and learning of the game. I do hope they keep up the good work.

As Alasdair and I said with the juggler and Kizuna AI hair respectfully, some hairstyles may include a colourful detail 🙂

[inner cloud]

Yeah! The corruption and changes may cause something

[red needle]

Yes! And also I have seen that the black mask and other items changed colours, but with the cape?

[inner cloud]

Clearly - wearing things of corruption and things on the darker side do not make our skids bad/evil SO maybe the skids start experimenting more

[nimble ingot]

White can symbolise purity, innocence and affiliation to the Light in Sky.
While their bodies are dark, and they are susceptible to darkness, implying that they can become detached from the Light in certain situations.
Therefore, it may play into how the skykids are both a creature of light, as well as darkness

[red needle]

Non dangerous crystal hair from these shards.

I can only imagine.

[red needle]

If we ever get to see the king or the ruler ( elder from Eden) would their ‘hair’ be white too then?

[nimble ingot]

Personally, I enjoy seeing how the devs allow skykids to have various appearances. Like the player, the skykid can have varying personalities.

Some may enjoy looking tough, humble, strong, sweet, tall, short, dark and Light.

[nimble ingot]

Supposedly so, since there has not been a character with a different colour of hair.
Except the Little Prince, who is an exception.

[red needle]

Or maybe they will be Krill themed black/ red or something… I hope so. (I do tend to appreciate evil things.)

[nimble ingot]

If the white hair is a problem, there is always a hood/cowl/head covering.
Or a crystal like bald head.

There is this concept crop of the King at the least.

[red needle]

So is the King a title or do they have a gender? Because I have seen and heard from several people that spirits and sky children,… do not have a gender.

[nimble ingot]

Yes, TGC made it clear that most spirits and the Skykids were made with no gender in mind. Meaning for the skykids, the player does not have to bother with a 'boy and girl' skykid, but instead have a neutral base character that can go either way.

The elder have a similar thing going for them.

You do have a point when it comes to certain names and titles that have a gender associated to them, such as, King, Grandma, Grandpa, or Prince.
While the lore is open to interpretation, which lets the players to explore the game in their own way.
regarding the Lore from an objective perspective (iow. without bias), the spirits have no gender.

[red needle]

The neutral base character was the best choice and we don’t see that in other games a lot, so I am definitely glad about that.

It was just confusing you know when I was a new player everyone wanted to go see grandma.

And I was like: Who is grandma?

It is open as well, so players can just think about it their own way too.

[frigid tinsel]

anyone can be called anything regardless of gender. a man can be called Mom, a lady can go by Mr., an agender monarch can be called king

[graceful oasis]

Sips tea I approve of this bases and honestly… because honestly… We are star beings from a Thing from space that may have send us down to get light…. Would such beings need gender?

[red needle]

Well they are stars.

[graceful oasis]

Yes

[red needle]

Cannot do better than that.

[nimble ingot]

While Teth (forest elder) may appear feminine to some players, and have the nickname Cool Aunt, the no gender fact applies for the general lore.

One is not required to gatekeep/enforce the lore, hence the 'open to interpretation' mantra

[graceful oasis]

For we know is what if Forest Elder is the most buff elder out of all elders? They do work the hammer like it’s nothing. And Take the Light from us with good force…

[red needle]

Golden wasteland Elder?

[graceful oasis]

Wasteland Elder is quite Buff… but we can see that he is Buff, but military buff…. Wait what if all the Elders were Buff.

[red needle]

I mean valley twins too, with their spears, vault intelligence or wisdom? And more

[graceful oasis]

Honestly They are all buff in different forms.

[red needle]

All needed as well, you have the muscle, but the brain is important too.

…Or something like a brain. Or like a muscle. Because they are not really humans. You get me.

[graceful oasis]

Ya, and they kind need to work together to run a kingdom with a King of some kind…. Until someone decided to try and make the Ultimate lamp.

[red needle]

…Moths.

[graceful oasis]

The Diamond that somehow connects to a black plane of existence that traps light, and needs focus in some form to just be in there….

[slim plume]

Sky lore is literally an abyss I swear (yes, pun intended)

[red needle]

This season has interesting things but I will not spoil it. You will see.

[nimble ingot]

Sky lore is like an onion 🧅

[graceful oasis]

Well we have the lore abyss, the Abyss with the giant Krill in it(Gerald), and The other abyss

[frigid tinsel]

I like to think the Elders have different skillsets they specialize in. physical strength is not the only thing useful in, say, combat. or even if not all the Elders are good at combat and if some are, they are capable of fighitng in different ways

[slim plume]

Imagining Forest Elder with a war hammer (or any heavy weapon) gives me life

[keen wren]

So is dark stone/the red crystals like amber? The memories/light in the shards for the current season are apparently ancient/suspended so maybe it’s like a light trapping Amber?

[graceful oasis]

More like a Reflective, unstable rock…..

[nimble ingot]

Incoming random theory
What if the light kid we meet in the void of Eden, is not the prince/king?
It is odd how the figure would always match our height, and can be reunited to form our former skykid selves.
Recalling what was mentioned in Light Awaits about skykids can become children of the light, but start as children of darkness. What if the current game embodies that symbolism that used to be in Dawn (the start of the game), and now in Eden (near the end).

I wonder if the figure we meet over and over in Eden, and likely as several iterations for each skykid, could possibly be our skykid's soul as a full apparition, similar to how ancestor spirits would with their memories and ghostly appearance. While it is true that the figure is not transparent, of have other spirit like properties.
It is more the dark half offering acceptance to the light half that intrigues me. Especially when combined, they create a skykid, a hybrid of both light and darkness.

I have said it before in the past, though the origin and lore of the winged light (formally called stars), their connection to the skykid statues in eden, and their ascended forms in orbit, are nearly as elusive as the elders (albeit even more elusive as there is little to no concept art for them, strangely enough.

Think of it, we have more art and in-game lore of the King, a character that has been missing in the game for so long, than the glowing figures we encounter on a daily basis.

[graceful oasis]

When we get to the figure, we become a being that is flipping bright. The being inside is honestly just existing…. I know there is lore of a king as the bright person from the Murals, but I honestly don’t think they are the same thing…. We enter as a Being of dark and we need light to get out… I believe it something of a collective will of something, something powerful enough to get pass the darkness in the Void.

[keen shore]

So true, this is why I do not object to being called a short king even if I am agdenf

[graceful oasis]

I don’t reveal my gender and just exists as that a person.

….So what should be talked about now…

[wheat cypress]

very good point, that last bit

[gleaming glacier]

Season Guides maybe? They’re clearly different than the regular spirits

[graceful oasis]

Well ummm Rhythm and Performance are brothers.

[abstract badger]

Yeah, they’ve usually been visible leader figures but Abyss broke that pattern

[vague walrus]

I think tgc said they're cousins, not brothers

[gleaming glacier]

They’re twins!

[vague walrus]

Maybe, I just heard they were cousins

That's why they look similar, but I could be wrong

[gleaming glacier]

twins!

[keen shore]

They’re twin siblings, not brothers — as stated before, everyone in Sky is agender :}

[graceful oasis]

I have forgot but at least they are siblings.

[gleaming glacier]

We love the goofy performing twins

[mossy pagoda]

Simple question: it appears Isle is immune to shard events. Why is that

[sharp lichen]

It’s likely because it’s so far away. Think of it: Isle is also the only area with no dark plants as well

[mossy pagoda]

Mmm but weren’t there some in the cave- next to the temple- or did they change that

[frigid tinsel]

Cave under isle Eder temple:

[keen shore]

isle has dark plants in two separate locations, both related to rejecting voyager iirc

[graceful oasis]

Isle is most likely far away in distance. The places only appear at the end as well, not on the sands or Lower parts. Just on the cloud islands caves.

[sharp lichen]

Oh yeah, but even still, Isle seems like a neutral space to me. There’s barely any light, barely any darkness, just sand

[dry ivy]

Ohhh so that’s who the person was that he saw in the crowd at the very end. How sweet!

I at first thought she was his mentor

(And I know—they don’t have confirmed genders. These are just headcanons of mine)

[gleaming glacier]

Twin came to see them

[dry ivy]

Perhaps it is also the farthest away form the mountain. It isn’t in its blast radius lol

[dry ivy]

So sweet to how supportive they are of one another

Performance Guide was so happy to impress Rhythm

[gleaming glacier]

Valley twins sets are best twin sets

[keen shore]

They are confirmed genderless — not trying to rag on your headcanon, I don’t really mind it, just letting you know that there is a different b/t that and them not being confirmed at all :}

[dry ivy]

They seem to have more chaotic sibling energy compared to the Performance/Rhythm twins

[keen shore]

fun fact there are a ton of implied twin sets in valley, a lot more than any other realm (now that I think about it, I can’t think of ones who look like twins outside of valley)! I like to think it’s some sort of manifestation of the elders effects on the realm

[mossy pagoda]

Sports twins versus theater twins

[dry ivy]

Oh wait, really?

[fickle tundra]

performance/rhythm have "tiktok ""hot"" emo guy duo" vibes while valley twins have "WHY ARE YOU BUYING CLOTHES AT THE SOUP STORE" vibes

[dry ivy]

exactly

The Theatre Siblings have calmer vibes def

[keen shore]

Yeah! Most of them aren’t confirmed like the performance/rhythm guide twins but the visual similarities are really striking… hold on, let me hunt down an image that has them all

[dry ivy]

Ooh thank you!

[mossy pagoda]

Which is surprising, I say as someone who hangs with a lot of theater kids

[dry ivy]

(awww do I see a taranza pfp?❤️ ❤️ )

[frigid tinsel]

Credit to Krii

[fickle tundra]

yes you do :D

[keen shore]

THATS IT I CANT BELIEVE I WAS BEATEN… couldn’t remember kriis non nickname used to f8nd it

[dry ivy]

Ikr?? I was gonna say theatre kids have chaotic vibes tho, but I guess some can be more...controlled idk 😂

[gleaming glacier]

I’ve thought about that! Maybe having twin elders effects how many twin sets are born in the valley

[rigid mural]

i love this shot of the valley elders, huge sibling energy, i want to hand them tissue paper tubes

[dry ivy]

AWW Now I see what you mean!! I can’t believe I never noticed how they look similar

Maybe twins tended to be born in Valley compared to other places

[fickle tundra]

the maskless ones look like fingers inside battle armor

[keen shore]

Yeah this is basically the theory! I think it’s super neat because it makes me wonder if there’s anything like that for other realms

[dry ivy]

Glad to see a fellow Kirbs fan (and a taranza appreciator at that)

[gleaming glacier]

So many twin babies

Who’s the twin spirit of Dreams Guide btw?

[graceful oasis]

So by all this creditable evidence…. Valley is the Twin Realm.

[dry ivy]

Hmmm

I mean, spirits in prairie seem to have a more rounded look like the Prairie Elder does

[keen shore]

sparkler parent!

[sharp lichen]

Sparkler Parent from Belonging

[frigid tinsel]

Horrible muffin baker

[dry ivy]

Glad to know me and my sister would probably be born in Valley if we were spirits hehe.

[gleaming glacier]

Thanks!

[fickle tundra]

there are two kinds of twins in the game:
"I love you!" "No i love you more"
"YOU BLEEP BLEEP WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET THAT CANDLE" "NOT MY FAULT YOU CAN'T FLY PROPERLY"

[keen shore]

that’s what their name would be if the skykid who found boatswain also found them as well

[dry ivy]

My sister and I are are a bit of both irl tbh

[fickle tundra]

i don't have siblings myself but i have two cats who try to be siblings (and miserably fail)

it's exactly like that

[dry ivy]

I’m sad I don’t know this reference. Sounds hilarious

[frigid tinsel]

One of Sparkler Parent’s TS hints says they make bad muffins

[dry ivy]

Oh HA— cats! Catty siblings Good picture of what it feels when my and my sis fight sometimes

But we always make up in the end

[fickle tundra]

Can we just talk about how air prophet enjoys eating BUGS for a second?
like they're super normal and even relatable, except for the B U G S part

[keen shore]

Bat mindset, nothing wrong with that

[spark cairn]

You don't?

[dry ivy]

Wait WHAT—-

[mossy pagoda]

Exactly. They’re a batspirit (I’m. Very sorry)

[uncut pond]

#ProphetGrindset

[fickle tundra]

"ok so why do you eat bugs?"
"I AM BATMAN"

[gleaming glacier]

Oh no the poor children

[keen shore]

I have seen too many of my friends commit food and non-food crimes to be disgusted by mere bugs

[frigid tinsel]

At least it ain’t centipedes

[uncut pond]

non-food crimes

[dry ivy]

Im sorry but I just ran into this the other day and I can’t believe how much this reminds me of that 🤣

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jA9ksYF1ZRs

[fickle tundra]

and this is why we don't have a slugcat spirit

[gleaming glacier]

The Spirits are committing food crimes man

[keen shore]

one of my friends ate road tar, I refuse to provide any further explanation

[frigid tinsel]

Crab Whisperer puts cheese in their coffee

[rigid mural]

centipedes are technically edible

[sharp lichen]

You have no right to say this, cucumber on bread liker

And the Air Prophet’s perfect breakfast is a coffee and some bugs. That’s it. That’s all they’ve eaten.

[uncut pond]

????WHAT

[dry ivy]

Wait, other than butterflies, do bugs even exist in Sky?

There goes my daydream of Sky being bugles and therefore I could imagine myself living there without fear of ticks and crud when exploring around

[fickle tundra]

can we please get air prophet some chocolate and actual food?

[elder torrent]

I used to eat salami w nutella 🧍🏻‍♂️

[frigid tinsel]

I ain’t eating those many-legged menances

[mossy pagoda]

When BatProphet returns from a hard day of living they eat some bugs and dust off emote

[uncut pond]

Some people say the dark fire trial creatures are worms

[dry ivy]

WHAT

PLEASE EXPLAIN—we’re they okay??? That’s, like, toxic???

[keen shore]

Some people say that the animal masks aren’t evidence of that specific animal existing at one point in Sky… I heavily disagree with them, spiders and deer and bats are real in Sky in my eyes

[gleaming glacier]

Crab Whisperer you’re better than this

[frigid tinsel]

Air Prophet plays a critical role in the cave ecosystem

[fickle tundra]

they're just a bunch of fog with eyes if you pay attention

[spark cairn]

No they ain't

[dry ivy]

Who is this bat prophet? I’ve only played a bit of the trials and the ark quests so far.

[elder torrent]

I'd grab a slice of salami and spread nutella on it

[keen shore]

💔 spreading Nutella on me,

[uncut pond]

Die

[mossy pagoda]

Spirit in the prophecy cave! Prophet of air.

[frigid tinsel]

Why are you putting chocolate on meats

[gleaming glacier]

Banned /j

[elder torrent]

I was a child bro

[dry ivy]

Well, as long as ticks and fleas don’t exist, I’ll be happy

And I like to think some animals exist in Sky too!

[fickle tundra]

ok what's next? the star collector eats s a n d?

also- headcannon: if videogames (specifically undertale) existed on sky the gloating narcissist would talk about mettaton 24/7

[gleaming glacier]

Gloating Narcissist is the Sky version of Mettaton

[sharp lichen]

Prophet of Air, the cool spirit on the Prophecy Cave.

Play the Prophecy and Enchantment quests, you’ll get a really good understanding of the Sky lore!

@elder torrent where were your parents, guardians, friends, anyone to prevent you?

[frigid tinsel]

And as a child I ate toilet paper. Doesn’t make it right

[mossy pagoda]

you know they don’t have time to go grocery shopping sand is CHEAP and EASY

[elder torrent]

They watched me being a menace

[dry ivy]

ooh we talkin about undertale

Yeah. Those two have similar vibes

[uncut pond]

They are already mettaton

[keen shore]

ALASDAIR FUN FACT: His diet consists solely of grilled cheese and toilet paper!

[gleaming glacier]

I don’t know why but I can see the performance spirits eating paint

All of them

[frigid tinsel]

Slander, libel

[sharp lichen]

And by grilled cheese, Salem means putting a slice of cheese on the pan and grilling it by itself

[dry ivy]

No wonder they seemed so scatterbrained

[rigid mural]

they put hot tabasco sauce in there too, to spice it up

[fickle tundra]

wait-
if the air prophet eats bugs because bat, what the hell does the fire prophet, a god honk lion eat?

[uncut pond]

Since Undertale was mentioned I just want to say that Cannoneer is literally Undyne

[mossy pagoda]

With varying degrees of shame. Storyteller and musician? No shame. They have paint eating contests. Dancer? Must be consoled by the stagehand before admits

[gleaming glacier]

Other spirits

[sharp lichen]

They need a fresh meal after all the acting, and the paint is there

@fickle tundra the other Prophets of course ||but most likely a cloud of literal smog||

[dry ivy]

Ooh, I see! Thanks for the clarification!

And yeah, I keep meaning to play more of it but keep forgetting about it lol

I got a nice overview of the prophecy murals from lurking on here tho hehe

[uncut pond]

They truly are a furry

I genuinely hope y'all don't get that joke

[keen shore]

fire prophet dips chocolate in mayonnaise before eating it

[fickle tundra]

sadly i didnt get the abyss pass wich means i cant protect moths as the cool fish lady

[mossy pagoda]

Hhhhhhh- noxious-

[elder torrent]

Fire prophet pours milk first and then adds the cereal

[frigid tinsel]

Valid

[mossy pagoda]

Every moth wants to be a cool fish lady when they grow up

[rigid mural]

fire prophet eats boiled froot loops

[fickle tundra]

Water prophet pours milk, then the cereal, then the table and after that the bowl

[keen shore]

Amateur food crime. Fire prophet dips Oreos in chicken broth before eating them

[fickle wing]

omg just like me

[gleaming glacier]

The prophets are criminals, today I learned

[rigid mural]

omg i feel so seen

[dry ivy]

You guys are krilling me here /lh

[frigid tinsel]

That’s why they live in a cave. It’s their hideout

[keen shore]

Diversity win!

[elder torrent]

Fire prophet peels a banana and then eats the peeling, throwing the rest of it away

[fickle tundra]

and after that they microwave the spoon

[sharp lichen]

Which spirit would eat this?

[mossy pagoda]

I can’t wait until you start targeting the actual innocent seeming spirits. Or the beloved ones like juggler. What does the daydreaming forester eat that will destroy my innocence?

[spark cairn]

HC: The assembly kids eating sticks is not the worst thing they've done. Not even close

[uncut pond]

The prophets gather together to eat pizza without cheese or toppings

[dry ivy]

TO THE PROPHET CAVE, MOTH!

[rigid mural]

me

[fickle wing]

a bug

[frigid tinsel]

And that’s why they’re dead

[gleaming glacier]

Cannoneer

[fickle tundra]

crab whisperer

[sharp lichen]

NOOOOOOOOO

[keen shore]

Daydream forester’s favorite breakfast is toast covered in ketchup, mustard, and sprinkles.

[rigid mural]

it's a food crime ?

[spark cairn]

Daydreaming Forester

[frigid tinsel]

Anxious Angler. that's prob something they pulled up themself

[dry ivy]

Well I mean, there IS that fire pit with the crabs on a spit

[mossy pagoda]

Oh you KNOW there’s sprinkles. An ungodly amount of sprinkles

[fickle tundra]

anxious angler is the best spirit because i can use their emote to hide behind my extrovert friends

change my mind

[rough skiff]

What happened in lore chat 😟

[raw crypt]

i love tabbing into this chat and being jumpscared by food crimes

[keen shore]

Laidback pioneer just eats cat food and kibble

[gleaming glacier]

We’re bullying the spirits

[dry ivy]

I’m starting to think Spirits mainly eat Alien Cuisine

[mossy pagoda]

And who among them abuses garlic? Tell me

[uncut pond]

be gay do food crime

[fickle tundra]

the tlp spirits (specially slouching soldier) just faceplank into the sand and eat it

[frigid tinsel]

this ain't limited to spirits. the Valley Elder(s) salt & pepper their apple slices, dev confirmed

[fickle wing]

i think juggler eats this

[keen shore]

SO TRUE,

[raw crypt]

hi

[mossy pagoda]

There’s gotta be at least one who puts garlic and sprinkles on everything and swears by it

[fickle tundra]

WEWO WARNING WEWO WARNING

fellow fer.al enjoyer

[dry ivy]

This

[gleaming glacier]

Performance is the kind of person to be so exhausted they eat pure coffee grounds instead of just making the coffee

[frigid tinsel]

Light Whisperer

[keen shore]

Shushing light scholar doesn’t eat anything :-(

[fickle wing]

fer.al…………….

[rigid mural]

i never got to play feral 😔 i like the owl things there tho

[fickle tundra]

squish it, shape it, mold it, E A T I T!

[mossy pagoda]

Nooo get them help-

[dry ivy]

It’s gotta be a bat prophet hater. They eat it to keep him away

[frigid tinsel]

yea, I can confirm that

[rigid mural]

just dug this up trying to find tabasco coffee crab whisperer

[keen shore]

My eyes widened with glee when I realized I could make that joke

[gleaming glacier]

Crab Whisperer dad sneezes confirmed

[raw crypt]

sls call and response

[fickle wing]

THOSE FELLAS WERE SO FUNKY
valkeri straight up fit perfectly in valley btw like those fellas are like The theater kids of planet feral i want to let them loose into the performance area like a pack of rabid raccoons in a 711

[fickle tundra]

Headcannon: the void of shattering and the rose are seen as biblycally accurate angels and joked about by the other guides
both because of their shape and because of their unusual

if no one can tell me otherwise it's cannon /hj

[fickle tundra]

yep

[keen shore]

unfortunately this was not also true for shush

[gleaming glacier]

Dang, Performance went feral

[frigid tinsel]

Panic! in the Wardrobe

[rigid mural]

wait hang on

[mossy pagoda]

That is what tech week will do to a person.

[dry ivy]

The Performance Spirits, the Owl, and the Wardrobe