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Wait whatttt?????
Not my Forrest unni! She did no wrong. Change my mind
Because im playing jn the chinese server and people call forest elder as ghost woman sometimes so i went and did some research and yeah it’s quite scary
Yeah its a tale
Let me find the picture i saw it somewhere few days ago
Yes Resh
@hushed steeple who? 
Join the dark side
Shh unni don't listen to them, they're just jealous
You use them to kidnap children Ik that
covers ears
Lalalalalalala
After i saw this post i never wear the hair again
O

Its a pretty chilling tale
I thought forest unni is warm n kind
Wait why would you even think that
She is frustrated and overworked and so done and tbh, same
She looks at skids and goes "tch"
Ye no
oh my
She prefers cats as a familiar
Since they are the ones who hang out in tall places
Oh you meant the elder
Who else
I was talking about the folklore
-_-
I think the elder likes hammers
And since cats kinda don't exist in sky. That's a bit hard.
Sorry
What's that now
many moths
Forest as a maze?
Yes
Wait spirits need to /can sleep??
Even spirits need rest, maybe it was just a habit to do it this way from back when they were alive/needed sleep :3
Well he have a house soo yee
in my 8 months of being here i never gathered the courage to say this until now
i always thought Rhythm questgiver was a lady
that did happen
Since none of the spirits actually have a gender i guess both assumptions are valid 🤝
thats a good point actually

S a m e
Actually spirts are gendeless its depends on the player on what they think
O I forgot the r in genderless
This statue oddly be looking like king 👁️👄👁️
I see rhythm questgiver as female 
Rhythm guide genderless royalty I stan
AYO ITS KP
Mmm, look at those King Turrets
Beautiful 
eyo wake up sheeple
It is
Does this area leads to something
Is that in social area?
I found the area in forest
It's the area before hidden forest
The area where there is no rain and helps u go to hidden forest fastee
I don't know
Uhm are you in sunny forest
That’s the exit to underground forest
No that’s the exit
Yeah
if it's the exit
Then why is there an exit connected to hidden forest
Well actually you can search in yt on underground forest it’s been there since the first season I think
Which exit,,?
There is an exit where you have to activate Le bridge to go for it
Yeah?
Ohhh
That's leading to the boneyard
That's what I mean
The pic you posted was the exit of the forest cavern tho??
Ye
Is that gate locked?
That gate is only the exit, the entrance to the cavern area is under the tree on the other side of the bridge, where you stomp to open the floor
Yeah
oooo tgc don't be shy and make the locked exit open
Sppssppss #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
#livefeedback ?
O thank you for telling me
Does the height chart also show skykid with huge spell and adult spell?
Just noticed that wasteland elder is the only elder with a cape, the cape has something that looks sort of like one wedge like this, ◀️🔶▶️, instead of just the diamond. Also the cape is torn sorta like the assembly quest guide's cape.
Now that i think about it... What looks like a weird wl also looks like this 
Cool!
Well actually every elder has that symbol even us
Huh I wonder what that means
Can you show me the symbol on each elder and the one on us?
Wait a min
Ok
Its in our chest
Oh yeah!
Actually i cant really oob and go to the all elders cutscene so have this you cam zoom in the picture
Ok, on their chests
Ye
But that means that wasteland has two of those symbols
Should we assume those are the symbols of the soul?
It can be but I think it’s the symbol for the kingdom
If so, then that would mean wasteland had a fallen friend that they honor by wearing something from them
They are also on instruments
It can also be the symbol for light but there’s already one 
Still, why does only wasteland have a cape?
I don’t believe so, the chart image is really old and back from before those spells existed and before we knew that height was a gradient in Sky. If you want to get a truly accurate measurement, compare against a chibi to see what those spells or your normal height are at.
Idk to look cool I guess
Doesn’t look like a flight cape to me based on the shape and design, most likely a fashion cape, or it assisted something other than flight of it had magic
While i forgot the despite all laws of avaition meme, imagone that but with wasteland elder isntead of bees
I dont think its fashion tho
Since there are tears and wasteland is a warrior, then again.. wasteland does wear high heels...
This is dumb but, Ever notice how an upside down hammock looks kinda like the whalea in sky? With the bulbous body and the fins
Wasteland elder is an absolute madlad who doesn’t care what you think makes sense with clothing 
Wasteland elder is a war general. That's why he has a cape imo
oh i didn't mean to ping that but still works lol
Its ok
He’s a true fashion icon
you pointing out the high heels is interesting though. of course it could just be what warrior ancestors wear, but with his overall style, it could be pointing at his flaw being vanity, or pride, or something like that. perhaps he was a coward which is why he seems to be the last standing ancestor in his cutscene, maybe
(im big proponent of the elders being really terrible people who need redemption lol)
has anyone ever tried to match elders with cardinal sins? wasteland pride, forest greed, . . . lust?? nevermind
Ye
Yeah, a few people have made theories and lists about it in the past, but you can definitely make your own as it’s all up to interpretation!
Wren !! sorry for the ping but I was wondering if you could add PNR in your Sky vocabulary guide??
Is it not there 
Also this is lore lol
I’m like
Always online
And lurking
Sjwndndnsn alrighty I'll keep that in mind
but yea,, pnr isn't mentioned
Previous discussion about the seven deadly sins and the elders of Sky #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Eden Elder radiates big pride sin energy
Agreed
Eden king is grees
Greed I mean
Lol
I mean he wanted lot of power and he was greedy to mine and use dark stone....
ty wren! if i were to add to that I would say Dawn is Sloth as their realm seems the most abandoned and they are old and weary, then Prairie is gluttony (the amassing of the butterfly pots in the temple), king is pride imo and that would make vault lust, perhaps lust for information, for knowledge, or magic since they seemed to have powers, so an obsessive desire to become powerful or intelligent
to me forest is shown more explicitly as the greedy elder, they literally snatch our flame
That's sort of true. If they are the one who invented diamond tech, they are the one responsible for everything that ensued. They were unethical in their research
Yes
Okay but Vault elder
true
#looking-for-group-live and make sure to spoiler ||office|| there
me just realizing alef imagery on the entrance to birds nest
@open loom who dat? 
this King really put statues of himself all over the world and then died
like b r u h
or he became darkness/the eye of eden/the storm
I think king has turned into “the storm”, not sure but prince may be inside of the eden diamond (kinda, merged or sth idk)
And i have todays stuff we should talk about i think
Pots
There are many pots in sky, their shapes are varieted
This one confuses me
Im sure this one didnt made for butterflys
Does anyone has an idea about this? Btw here is next to door of sleepy spirit, in prairie
It might be a leftover from beta. The golden pot in the Vault is such a pot.
Sounds like every self-important rich guy in history
/guysss i was just looking for a specific figure in vietnamese history and he seems to have those ridiculously tall head thingss that the vault people have?
/this is Hùng King btw-
ah
Seems the valley forshadows
||that thing|| as well
that seems some inspiration
also the game vaguely reminds me of some architecture in Bhutan
well Gratitude was inspired from its culture
we don’t talk about Kabuki
Like this
I thought that was a texture bug at first, but it’s definitely foreshadowing
“this is what you’re gonna be losing”
/the freeze stuff amirite
What are these lines in the sand at Forgotten Ark
/ôoff that name!-
/it used to be a farm, look at the
memories! it was placed there when enchantment was around
yep this is a farm
But why valley ... is THREE realms away from ||eden||
completely nonsensical idea
/could be- they just reused the one in eden for valley-
Valley representing coming of age, “life is exciting”
hints of “good lord I’m an adult now” giving possibly a slight crisis but it only really hitting in Wasteland
random idea though
/I CAN HAVE A CREDIT CARD NOW AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME vs i have a credit card now and no one is stopping me
yephzhsbxhwjxjhshzsjs
/*learn to save monei kids, dont waste em-
slightly here too
What is a- going on
talking about cape go bye bye foreshadowing
i completely forgot i changed my nickname at 7am this morning
Wow, nice finding
Looks amazing
guys what's the reason there's holes in the clouds in GW?
That's the path our sky kids fall through
My take on it was multiple "eye of the storm", like in hurricanes
there are multiple holes tho
You know those tunnels the train go through 🚇
Eh! So those holes do the thing
probs the krills doing
i frogto what i was gonna talk about here
RIP
Chat got krilled reallyyyy badd
Fineeee, gather around the bonfire, I'm going to play a lullaby for you! 
sadge
Yea
Wait who asked-
krill
I swear if sky adds a hitbar, even if it only did 1 damage I will go to krill map every day and kill every last krill on the map
Just now i was wandering around at the hidden cavern in forest n i discovered these light posts are blue unlike others in the game are grey
There is one inside the area where u hv to light the gate open and fly swiftly before it closes and it’s quite board inside
Sth came in my mind that maybe this place has a castle? Then why are they blue they must be related to the sky kingdom
And the place looks like this
It even has pillars and the light posts in it and it looks like a royal castle doorway to me in some sense
Now hol up are you saying you actually enter that door???
You can glitch your way through, but you can't open the door to get in
You have to use chibi fall or table glitch or something like that
This is for y'all
true
I used the piggy back and point foward to drop my friend in. It obviously leads to somewhere but no portal was there and the place that we usually light up to open the gate was blocked by many stones. Imo the dev intentionally pile them there to tell us we couldn’t go into it
what exactly is megabird?
Imo every skykid is a representation of light and when every light comes tgt they form the megabird
ohh
It may be more easy to understand by looking at the pattern on the water surface in the secret level
more than skykids, all creatures of light are part of the megabird and return to it periodically, according to scrapped concepts. together, all light forms one entity representing the force of nature and the natural order
the elders might have been light once and thus connected to megabird but were cast down and lost their light, which is why they became obsessed with taking it from around them and using it to become more powerful, they were trying to regain their original power maybe
I agree wih this theory
I remember making like a five paged theory about wasteland-
y'all how would you show a corrupted sky kid just wondering?
asking here since it allows images and im scared to ask anywhere else
So uh.
I kinda blabbed something a while ago and it made sense so I shall put it here:
What if the shiny boi learnt the spirit folk emotions but it didn't sit well with him cause he wasn't that specie to begin with
And hence his emotions went off a certain moral compass.
He became unable to know how to control them and that lead to the greed war or whatever it was.
And hence when he finally gave out,
All these emotions he learnt came back to the realms as the calamities of the realms.
Say for example,
Forest got perpetual rain of grief.
And hence when we came we were a mix of spirit looking things but with shiny boi like core.
This may also explain all these "wl/ imprints"
um so
Im going to share some ideas
so
in Daylight Prairie, the elders discovered the light animals,
they loved it
sees them as gods and bult temples
but then theres two sides
the trapping light animal side
and the free light animal side
we can see that from the elder flashbacks
and the 8 people gate
the we move to valley
Honestly I wouldn't mind taking pics with the elder lmao I mean I am a sky model-
the valley elders made a gud usage on the animals, they became rich
but the differences and arguements of the two sides became more intence
you see theres two racing maps
one with candles
one without
so we can see which side is at distvantage/low supporters
then we have gw
the dark cretures had war with the elders
then the two sides clash
we can see from the shields
the two shields repsents the trap side and the free side
who won?
idk
e
Idk, just a hypothesis
at the first krill map
the krill eats the flying boi I forgot the nam
that just indicates that the dark cretures are not scared of light anymore
or for some tims
idk crabs are weird
Have you ever thought that God cased down the light to see what will the outcome become to want his kien will do with it
have you ever met a crab?
but crabs are naturally neutral
i think crabs would fight god for fun
for the meme ye id love to see that
but ye these are the natural crabs im talking about
u can find em on the outer isles of sanctuary
i love to vibe with em cus the place is usually quiet except for the venturing moths that likes to explore places
I rmb corrupted crabs have only four legs or six
????
It’s the end saying of a Channel called epic rap battles of history, on YouTube
Two elders proceeds to rap
Okay going back to the isle of dawn, the pointing spirit's cutscene showed a sky kid like us what do you think happened 
Fell off course?
Wait is the sky kid us?
I know but I just think that there's more
hey so I just thought of this really crazy theory
crazy as in I have absolutely zero evidence to back this one up, it's more of an idea/headcannon
Elaborate 
so I was thinking "lore wise, why do skykids light up candles? and why go through the trouble of lighting them every day" and then I had this idea that maybe the candles were there to ward off some greater threat, like a bigger darkness creature, but that wouldn’t make any sense still I just thought it was a cool thought
Dude that’s really cool tho
thank you!
I mean, one could say that the candle system is canonical, and tbh, that's probably correct. but this theory makes it waaaay more mysterious don't you think?
hi hello! i dont usually say anything on here, but seeing nastymold’s video on the new tutorial got my brain going brrrr and i’d like to share an idea it gave me
it does say something like a light a day keeps the dark dragon away! so it's possible
ooo go on
ok, so my idea is that it’s the Winged Light who tell the story of the kingdom to us in the new tutorial
What new tutorial ?
the winged light? actually, that kinda makes sense.. 
nastymold and kakdambda posted about it
TE L L
the tutorial sequence has been revamped in beta to help newer players, i assume. it also brought crumbs of lore with it
*runs to #beta-screenshots-videos *
but... beta 
No we can’t talk about beta content here
It’s ok
you can talk about it in #beta-discussion !
Well I’m not in beta so
ahhh, ok then!
I said this yesterday in #general-sky-discussion but it was ignored. Then someone suggested that I could say it in this channel, I hope it's fine. Here's what I wrote:
"I might have figured the real purpose of the Star Field Memorial constellation with the 3 inaccessible stars
In Sky: Light Awaits, at the end of the race there was a statue at the middle of the arena with 3 spirit stones at the front. Those 3 stones had a spirit each
The oob arena (or elder room) uses the exact same model as the arena of Light Awaits, but with the ice rink floor missing and modeled stairs. The constellation option exists exactly where the statue would've been
I assume the 3 stars in Star Field Memorial constellation were the 3 spirits, before they made them available to find around Valley"
Is that in beta?
Well its just a bug and I think brick said that it’s a old quest from light awaits
It’s from nastymold
Similar to how the old Light Awaits temple is still present in the beginning of GW with the meditation circle to take you to the cutscene
!omgomghaveyouseenthe
Conversations, pics, and videos about the beta are spoilers
Please keep them in #beta-discussion or #beta-screenshots-videos.
Tbh out of any realm that needs more expanding on, I would have to go with the Golden Wasteland.
Vault
yeah but the vault is easier to explain...well up to the third floor at least. But there isn’t much that explains on the war that seemed to of taken place in the Golden Wasteland and I think they should have a season focused on portions of a potential war that caused most of the Golden Wasteland to be the way it is.
But again it doesn’t help a whole lot that the Golden Wasteland was literally the last realm to get properly thought of
Cause originally that realm was gonna get scrapped altogether
I wonder what our characters do while we're gone; I left mine to rest on a hammock just in case. 
Mine commit arson
I hate how probable this actually is
Well they just poof actually
Or sit if your afk
but where do they go?
Ok I just watched the new intro and I think the narrator has changed
Has there been a new update
its still in beta
the intro has changed but its in beta not live
!omgomghaveyouseenthe
Conversations, pics, and videos about the beta are spoilers
Please keep them in #beta-discussion or #beta-screenshots-videos.
Sorry
Hi! I don’t know what exactly lore is, but someone told me about a prince in the intro sequence? Can someone elaborate?
Well, it's been speculated that the prince is (1) one of the narrators or (2) the skykid-like figure shown in the later part of the cutscene
Where, I need to know 
I like to hunt for Light Awaits leftover areas and objects or features
you go into GW and then head backwards
normally there's a loading zone there but if you're tricky you can get under it
What are you referring to?
This place
How can I get there?
Where's the reset area?
go backwards from gw, go down and under the reset area, and get back up
it's the same way you get out of valley into gw but backwards
When you go backwards and get a white screen and end up in the actual temple, you've hit it
Chibi fall?
I think you can also reach it through piggy after you kneel at the regular Valley temple
probably with a friend
piggy up on top of the temple from the outside then piggy drill in
forget the technical term
also I think that might be the pre-Belonging temple
Can someone explain to me Sky lore?
So we're talking about using chibi fall here? I can do that in Live.
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
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credits to Bricky
Np
The old Forest social space?
yes
Hey mune ! When someone asks about lore I think it's best to ask them if they want to read a doc first before sending the moff doc ;; it's that exact reason why an issue blew up last time

What issue was it?
The ppl sending docs and overwhelming people 
There's a long message about it in the pins
Is James still here? I still have to explain to them the mechanics to reach the old forest social space OOB
Isn't that the one above Prairie temple?
Yes
Fly through one of the holes (not the one in the middle)
You can also fly to the OOB from the entrance to the new forest social space. Just remember to be careful of the transition zone
Yeah
I did that before and it worked
There's a fun thing about that
What is it?
If you fly to the middle hole and touch the stones in the left, just a bit, step on it and go down again then fly through the holes in the side. You'll trigger the underwater prairie temple OOB
Well, I entered GW, flew back up to the valley exit but now i have no idea what to do. Entering from the gate leads back to the real elder room
Did we forget to mention the reset wall? 
I forgot to try chibi fall just in case
Using chibi fall is the key to activating the Old Valley room OOB
Oh ok
it's hard to get up solo
yep
Sorry. The trick to the Old forest social space has been exposed now. You can backread here
I chibi fell multiple times. Got a cutscene but I can't enter the room cuz the wind pushes me back. I give up on it for now
it's tricky, I had to land on a solid piece of geometry and rocket up with a friend
I got stuck in a "geometry tunnel" twice. Unfortunately I cannot do the rocket trick because I don't have the piggy ride ability
Ikr
This reminds me of the myth with Chinese New Year. People wear red clothes and decorate their house in red and also having fireworks and firecrackers to get away the evil monster Nian which is afriad of the fire and colour red
Hmm I've heard about prince in sky lore? The prince who was meant to be the king when he grew up? I'm curious about that ,can any of you tell me what's it about, i would really appreciate ^^
Consult the pinned posts because it os kida hard to explain.
I finally got in game and OOB-ed
Here's some pics of the old Valley Temple
The Sparkler's Maze isn't here in this relic (side of the wall where it should be)
am gonna stop spamming now but here y'all go
Aa
my screenshot was after you sat
dang its mesmerizing
Woah! Simple and shiny
we dont know if the concept of growing up exists for elders, but the transition of prince to king can be linked to season of prophecy murals where it shows the prince being coronated on top of eden
I think that this here (leading to the citadel) is a slide as well.
so i was in the forest temple today and found this manta glyph
About days of nature
Imagine that the sanctuary guys messed up that part of the sanctuary island cuz they got stranded there
WHAT
the poor manta 
Ye
noooo
Anyways
Manta juicer mmmmmmmmmm
I think that's us? I think we were created by something and was sent down to help sky kingdom so that's why the elders respect us (idk for forest elder haha)
Yea but she did respect us in the end
Also i noticed some sky symbols. If you guys found more please tell us
Wait i did a tons of researches on the sky language or whatever it was but it's really hard to do it. I only know two letters that's w and o. i tried to guess the letter by comparing them with journey's language, make 4 3×3 blocks then try to turn them into pixels until it looks like journey's Language. I'm not sure whether it's correct or not but i believed that journey and sky are in the same world. Also the story lines in journey tells that the ancestors lived on land until they separated into groups because of their greed,. They fight over for their own goods and ended up killing many. So we play as a traveller to help bring the spirits of the dead back to the heaven. I do believe that journey traveller can be eden king in sky or the king in sky is the god who sent traveller and sky kids down
(I will have to make a yt video about this lmao)
Wasn't there a whole doc about this where is it—
Hm?
Bruh
It's been unpinned 
Dang
Wait I can't translate sky language oiiiiif
Hmm did anyone have a theory about hidden Forest and wasteland being connected in some way?
It's too sus not to be sus
From what i know in forest people cut down trees and exploit the environment and light to produce technology and darkness came
Imo opinion they r different areas of the land but in different times where wasteland is after forest. I kind of feel this way because the both realms have valley between and higher than them and it kind of act like a barrier
Also factories are several places in wasteland such as the first krill place
But im not sure what do the pipes do
so it makes me feel like they are in different timeline
That’s smart!
Just curious, do you all reckon that Sky will have a story mode some day?
I personally dont think so. Jenova mentioned he’d like an open space and something that can let the players enjoy for many times. If there’s a story mode it means it isn’t open anymore
When is king coming back 
“Going to prank King Alef when he comes back”
Day 1: 😁
Day 2: 😃
Day 7: 🙂
Day 725:
@lyric isle who dat? 
He never did..
Eyes of Eden use to be the city of light? (Theory)
wait didnt the devs say journey and sky are in a completely different worlds? the symbols are interesting though but i definitely think they are just similiar because sky is like a sucessor to journey and they are made with the same devs-
Well idk about that but there still believe because you know mihoyo? The devs said genshin impact and honkai impact are in different world while the characters are similar and have so many easter eggs behind it like the unknown god from genshin impact and kianna from honkai impact (if you play genshin impact)
We'll never know the devs lol
actually journey is something something sony so i dont think they would be related idk i have no idea
i cant find a dev message but yk
Beta?
yes
The beta invite links get deleted after each wave I think
It seems that I have to wait for the new season
Yea
yeah, sadly
Been thinking about the entirety of Sky's map just earlier. I think I now got a rough picture of Sky's map, but I have yet to check the view Eden mountain from each realm to truly confirm what I got
I'm gonna go to Forest to check now, probably
Brb
I haven't checked Isle, but I think its still somewhat close
Based form the three images, it seems that Forest is actually the FARTHEST from the mountain
Valley and Prairie seems to be about equal distance
Tho, Forest doesn't seem to make sense since Forest is right after Prairie (You can see the temple right from social area), and from that temple is where we go to Forest. There's a chance we teleported...
Tho, we're probably far from the Forest itself from the social area, sooo...
There are a few things we do know a but about the realms
Vault is right inside the Eden Mountain, GW is at the foot of Eden mountain, but is also directly at the bottom of Valley as well
However, GW does share a lot of similarities with another realm: Isle of Dawn
Both are seemingly sandy, seems to be surrounded by a body of water
maybe theres a fog in forest? like the fog in blue mountains
I had this headcanon for a while that there used to be water flowing from Valley to GW, but now GW got its water source from Eden
Ooh, could be!
So GW is pretty much in between Valley and Eden, but may also be like Isle, a realm near water
So there's this chance that GW is actually somewhat close to Isle
Maybe it's the eden castle?
That is the Eden Mountain
I mean your getting closer to eden realm by realm
Though, it doesnt seem to be the case if you compare the distance from the Eden mountain with each realm
It would've looked more darker but maybe they didn't want to make the skykids wonder why their getting closer to a scary place so they made it a surprise????
Like a plot twist
Yeah
Or maybe because going straight would be too tiring or so!
Imagine having to fly to the Eden mountain no land just clouds...
Omg
You can’t do that even irl!
Actual H e double hockey sticks
Lol
Hmmm but srsly tho why would the clouds look white at far away?
Maybe the dark kingdom trying to fool light kingdom??
Hmm yeah
Or maybe it’s actually ash colored, but compared to the bright sky you don’t see it that way
It does look darker
It has me wondering tho
As shoot I forgot what I was about to say
Oh right
So
Why does wasteland still have darkness in it?
Like there's barely any light in there
Yeah that’s weird
Could be true
I mean why would he live in a light bright blinding place
Well, there’s a few butterflies and a manta there but like that’s literally it, so yeah why
Wasteland is basically discord in dark mode
Lmao discord in dark mode
Lmao
But yeah, he wouldn’t live in a super bright place like prairie, despite how there’s so much light and creatures there
Yeah
And gw isn’t that far from Eden
So... could be
Not vault since vault is just spirit mantas and lanterns, and some people think it’s actually just a sort of dream actually
None of the creature are that big so that’s true
Wait is the king that huge?
So he still lurks around wasteland
i thoughf those were light creature skeletons that the krills killed, like the whales
But is it?
True I thought the same until I realized the bones are wayyyy huger
...giant creatures 
There's multiple statues of him in wasteland
bigger then the whales?
Kinda
Whurtles
They skeletons in Wasteland are of creatures that are extinct in the current Sky
He can go from statue to statue like inside it and then be spying on you and you wouldn't know it
I mean why would the krills show up just when you open that giant door at the end of wasteland before elder
Woah...
Still thinking about giant krills
Maybe cause he sent them there
Yup! If they were just there they’d hunt you before the door!
That’s a good theory I’m just being ms obvious here
Hmm
Also another thing
Valley is just like wasteland
Like random towers
With gold patterns
So it's clear he's hiding in wasteland
Cause valley is so bright
That is true, they’re similar but brighter and more populated and neat!
Golden wasteland would just be a destroyed second valley in that case. Explains “Golden”.
I think that the longer the game continues, the farther back into the history of the people living in the sky world. I think this because each season, we meet more spirits, (who are dead people). We are learning about these people, so I think that we are slowly going back in time.
Also, the Assembly spirits are kids, so they died young 😭
Ark isn’t really close to any water
Shipwreck, don’t exactly remember but I think it is?
I need to go there again oof
Maybe the pipe was to fool the light kingdom into thinking it was for the black water idk-
But instead
It was like a sneak attack
Or an escape route
Or a hiding place
Whats the topic?
I think the ark was a flying boat, which fell out of the clouds that are above Golden Wasteland
Wasteland and darkness king
Just checked shipwreck. It’s close to water, has an ocean. So it’s just water pollution in sky, about the pipes
I want to hug the king
Wasteland!
But that leads too
Is that too much to ask?
Same
Thanks
Escaping?
Or a celebration for defeating the king?
Woah. Imagine making pipes because you defeated someone!
/j
Could the Forest elder be close to King Alef?
even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp 
Could be
I think that they were travelers. The spirits of the season they are from (forgetting the name) they all have something special. For example, the herblest. They are going some where.
The dudes over at Wasteland must be really proud
But also
Enchantment?
Why didn't the ship sink at ship wreck
Shallow?
Probably shallow. It is kinda sunk
Like the black water must've been deeper right?
Deeper towards the ocean but not the shore I guess
Hmmm
Maybe they were trying to colonize the wastland, because there are no krills (apart from one) in that area.
They were trying to reach the shore but crashed too hard? Not sure
Or got krilled right when they reached
Idk what its called but like when the water level decreases, that mightve happened
But it wasn't that deep so maybe it was an attack from the darkness that killed them?
What if they were about to set sail but got attacked
Yeahhh
Failed sewage system???
Could the pipes have been in use after the ship landed in the water area? And then the pipes took all the water from that area, causeing the ship to sink
Tried to make something but a war happened right before they got opened
So they closed it so nothing happened.
The king might live down there???
i always thought he was trapped in the crystal
The spirits from the ships expadition had already left, but one came back to check on what was happening with the ship, to find it back in ruins
Woah
just a thought
Same but before that
Also
the one with the laser shooting out of it?
Vault is like the castle in wasteland
Is the topic about the shipwreck?
Yeah i think so!
yeah, the "light" youre tring to reach in eden
So vault is the castle in wasteland
Then i think that the king lived in the castle that we are all striving for in eden, but then the laser went through it, destroying it, causeing the king to become corupted.
i think so, because of how the doors open right into it
Speaking of vault, it’s not the topic but do you think that all that weird blue lighting might be because the entire vault area is like, a spirit memory? Same color, and people think it might just be a dream/imagination because of where you end up before Eden!
Could be!
That does make sence, but whose memory is it? the sky kid you play as, or??
Oh dear you’re right!
I have a question about Alef however...
wait, who are we talking about, @nocturne crow? 
Maybe all of the spirits in a way! Maybe they all shared time together? Not sure
I mean the journey is really long
ok, totally wild shot in the dark here, but maybe the reason the king/diamond is what we're trying to reach means that he could also be a lost light, like in the prolougue.
So yeah. Could be like, their entire journey. The place is forever blue
Oooh
And woke up at eden
and we're trying to release them from corruption
OR
ooo, maybe they somehow put all of their memories together into the elevator thing to move it and have it project the place around it
starting from vault until you wake up at the home space it was a dream all along
I kinda had a headcanon that the entire world of sky was just a dream since nothing ever changes except new friendships and stories (seasons) but that’s it. Like darkness is kind of... nightmares, but that won’t make too much sense 
Hmmm yeah
And I'm just here, silently holding on to my Prince=Us theory...
But it seems like it's a nightmare of the war and what it would've been like if lightness didn't win
And I’m just here, pointing out everything’s that’s obvious or illogical
Yeah...
Welp I have to go, but it was nice sharing ideas!
Bye!
Bye!
Bye!
Its not really recommended that we call them by their hebrew names
And after eden they thought they died to go to heaven but it was a nightmare
Interesting
True...
What if that’s waking up
When something bad happens like remembering assignments/dying you wake up
Right?
HAHAHAHAHAH LMAOOOOO
I always had this thought at the back of my head where in we just kept reimagining the life we couldve had, but were stuck in Eden
REMEMBERING YOUR ASSIGNMENT
Loll
Woah, that’s a good theory too
Also
PLS I WOKE UP TOO MANY TIMES BECAUSE SCHOOLWORK SEEPED INTO MY DREAMS AND THEN SELF CONCIOUSNESS
COULD BE DAILY QUESTS/CONSTELLATION 
Oof
Carry on!
thats just... really morbid
Whenever we theorize about it all being a dream I get sudden omori vibes 
Speaking of that we could be facing the truth like Eden 
Ye
I never truly got to figure out why
As I said above, I couldn't think of a reason
I got nothing too
Hmmm
Maybe back then
They didn't have instruments
So they make it
And it's golden
Ooooh
They’re also magic-ish
Yeah
Like fireworks staff, or being able to spawn a table anywhere
An instrument that changes key depending on where you are
It’s cool!
With a chair
maybe they were damaged for some reason to the point of being unuseable at one time? the gold could be repairs,
Yeah but
but why then?
Maybe its like something like a DLC or accessory, so it's special?
Why would they use an expensive item to fix it
It also has the star symbol on it
Instruments lore 
as a way of rejecting whatever caused them to destroy it in the first place?
HOLD UP
MAYBE THE KING MADE IT SO WHENEVER SOMEONE PLAYS IT IN WASTELAND CAUSE ITS THE MOST QUIET PLACE HE WOULD HEAR IT AND BE READY TO SEND THE KRILLS-
BROOO
YO THATS SMART
MY BRAIN IS GALAXY BRAIN
||ORBIT BRAIN||
FLOW IS BIG BRAIN
OML
but the krill arent attracted by music. some instruments even stop light loss
wait but what about the instruments/props by other realms
Mhmm, torch!
But why would he only put it in wasteland
That would've been suspicious
And they would've got rid of it maybe
maybe thats why it was destroyed, so there would be not protection from krills
no*
What if they just had some religious belief about music?
Like some people do
Explains the star? Def need to look into that more
It's possible thats the case-
But that's cause it's sky glitchs but he would hear it and make the krills ready-
Also, Megabird sings and is the god of Sky, so the ancestors definitely had something with music
But they do belong to other spirits, and I mean, imagine a harp in prairie for krills!
That does sound likely in a way
Ooooh yeah
Especially sanctuary
The bells!
But maybe cause the rest the light kingdom made it
Wait, so that means it’s the opposite of flow’s theory! Cool!
The trumpet is the loudest I think-
What if Megabirb has another form thats not like the one in Orbit
That explains the gold!
And it does come from wasteland
Since gold is bright and shimmery and stuff
Oooh you have a point
Its because its used for signals
byee
so maybe music was considered a charm against corruption
Yeah that could be true
Maybe gw is just “not like the other girls”
maybe the king sent the krill to krill the manta
So it wouldn't atract any light creatures
Sorry bad spelling-
So the light creatures won't be there to take the hit
that would explain the skeletons in graveyard for sure
But when you free the butterflies
They weren't freed
They were trapped
So butterflies are to tiny to take the hit anyways
And he couldn't get rid of them so he just tried hiding them
Hmm explains a lot
From what I’ve gathered:
Instrument lore:
Instruments must be considered a blessing and freedom from corruption! It’s gold, attracts light creatures, very cool!
But gw and the king is in their edgy phase and horns shall release the krills!
did some of the elder hide some then? like the mantas in the village/temples that need the bells to show up
wait hol up, the king sent krills
What are we talking about again?
the king being evil and instruments, i presume
Oh
Horns used for gw makes sense. Imagine loud blaring horns in prairie or forest or anywhere. Except valley it makes sense for the race but the door is enough, so your theory makes sense flow!
Maybe he would notice you either without the trumpet BUT he made them so he would notice if your there if he hasnt noticed
Mmm true
Yes true
Where was trumpet spirit again?
Notice how the krills come when you open that door
So he mostly lurks around there
since we're talking about items, if no one has said this already it seems like the firework staff was used as some sort of flare gun
And he heard th spirits trumpet
Near trumpet spirit!
Yoo we made actual lore! This is the longest I’ve been in here
Same
I kinda thought the firework was used to distract krills and stuff, since fireworks are light and krills like to munch light, they probably notice that before returning to the person holding the staff
Ooooh yeah
They go far away as well, you can run
They’re not that far but, it’s not the same place as you!
Not liked they’d throw a party in the middle of a war, would make sense if it finished but..
/okay but like, the laugh emote's cutscene have them ussing the staff=
YOOOOO GUYS I THINK WE’RE WINNING LETS PARTY
*gets krilled
I think if that was the cause of their death it would be hilarious
Would be good, it shows a lesson learned lol
Yep! Fits with sky’s mood
Yup
/sooooo anyways- i started confetting everywhere- "some dude who died and ascended in eden"
/forbidden pop rocks
If that's questioned then it's maybe to fool the kids into thinking their gonna reach it
But we still don't know what's beyond the crystal
Summary:
King wanted to hide in gw, cause of why there’s STILL darkness there
Instruments attract light creatures wow blessing! EXCEPT where they need it most, gw it’s just a signal to RELEASE THE KRILLS!
Spirit blared the horn so that we’d get krilled before we got to vault to stop us, or someone idk
He died because of the krills when they came out
Krills still come in habit because door make noise?
I probably got that wrong
In orbit, I realized that after hugging light kid the same white beam of light is the exact same as the one coming inside the crystal
Makes alot of noise
Oh yeah.
So you gotta speedrun outta there
/okay- how about- they trap the krills underground- and the door opens when the krill prison opens, which release the krills?
WOAHHH
But are krills that fast???
Sky has TECHNOLOGY
Kinda, but only when they actually krill...
Otherwise they’re really slow..
Maybe they’re trained.
Yknow, what other krill just charges at the person you don’t like when you blare a horn?
But how would the light kigdom not notice it?
my take is that the eden diamond somehow opened a door to orbit (aka the giant pillar of light) somehow this was too much for the diamond to handle and so it fractured and unleashed a storm. the opening to orbit also grants you the ability to go there if you are nearby
They... krilled the light kingdom?
So what if you actually go inside the crystal?
But it’s just hollow.
id say they probably noticed, but couldnt do anything about it
Yeah
ARE THE ELDERS RELATED TO THE WAR CAUSE IF SO THEY ARE STILL ALIVE
OMG
AND THE BUTTERFLIES MAY BE SPWANED BY THE PRARIE ELDER
BIRDS AS WELL.
Are there birds tho?
They’re in every realm but I’m not sure about gw idk
Other than vaukt ofc
Memory fuzzy
Idk about that one -
Yeah I don’t think there were birds
YEAHHHH
AND THERE WERE TWO SHIELDS WITH TWO DIFFERENT SYMBOLS
First time I saw him I was like “DAMN BRO WERE YOU THE ONE WHO TRIED TO KILL EVERYONE HEREEE”
ONE OF THEM MAY BE THE DARKNESS. SYMBOL
Obviously not but he could lmao
OH DEAR
i always thought it looked like they were holding the line against the krills
wasnt there like a valley shield or am i dumb
Same, it was a random thought
and the trumpet warned them of the krills at the cost of their life
But here's the thing
Early in 2016(I think)
In sky
You used to be a child of darkness
While doing maths homework and having “It Means Everything” from omori ost in the background, since the effects literally sound like krills! Did they have a collab
/j
Wow
Yup I think
This is LONG, chesca be proud
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