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it sounds like really strong wind
Eden sounds like hell
Sounds like the souls of the damned are growling and there's some chimes and wind lul
I've been thinking. Is there a reason why some spirits wore masks and some didn't? Is it something associated with social class?
Is there any lore about the different types of spirits? (Fragment and carry types)
Why is there no storm here? In the opening sequence when they show the broken castle?
Huh?
there is a storm though ?
Interesting discussions.. I went waay up in the chat and re-read all the stuff š
See the video I replied to. There's the floating broken castle but no storm/ā” lightning that's usually visible from all realms
i did
Well, thatās just edenās concept art.
It wasnāt finalized, but it does have to do with lore
thereās no lightning, yes, but thereās clouds and clear destruction
looks like a storm to me
Yep
Wondering if the storm we see is below the floating castle
And it is rightly shown in that cutscene
see, in edenās concept art, thereās a spiral of wind all around. the lightning comes from the king himself
why are you bringing up concept art when weāre discussing the in-game design ?
Because I was comparing the two 
ahh
well eden has always been a spiral of clouds with lightning
itās a storm, after all
But I think the two are different.. What I was talking about is the cutscene we get when entering dawn
There is no lightning or storm just clouds. We do fly up above all the storm
When we go to eden
Ah, sorry 
So the King's castle was above the orbit
what ? but we see the castle below orbit when we actually visit it
I mean when you get the wings back and all shiny
and orbit is consistently above the castle in-game, as you see in prairie and valley
itās above the storm, but not above orbit
Oh sorry
A photo I took yesterday
Yes wrong terminology
I mean above the storm and red diamond area
But below orbit aka the too many stars blinding my eye area
everything is below orbit it seems
aside from megabird
In the other opening cutscene video they show how there was infinite light when everyone was United. When they were no longer United they fell... So what was their quarrel? Who controls the light? š¤
Then again it says "together" they made home in the clouds
So what was their quarrel
there hasnāt really been a clear depiction of what happened to cause the fall
I mean looks like they rebuilt realms of their own together overcoming whatever was the difference initially. But then Eden broke again..
eh ?
Probably in future seasons...
we donāt see the king in game, what are you on about mate ?
Sorry not again.. Eden broke and something went wrong
yeah, the eden explosion 
I mean king definitely did something wrong for the eden to be broken and separated from everything...
Yeha
honestly I think it was all the elders, aside from isle elder
king propaganda time
agreed
What is here
Who knows anymore
So from the game opening cutscene : they were all connected to the 'king' when they were stars. Had infinite light. Then they got divided(no longer connected) for some reason. (So lost their star status?) fell down but still managed to make their homes in the clouds. Then darkness came (something went sideways again!?) and they all faded to memories (?) and then sky kids were created(they are shown as falling as well?) Someone is calling them to bring back the lost stars...
the spirits were always on the ground and they worshipped the elders
Yeah. Seems only the elders were stars. And spirits were the people from realm each elder created and ruled
Nice
So when the stars fell it shows an intact castle in Eden mountain. Aaand the king is already there at the top. So did king also fall and made home at Eden or ascended after trials as per prophecy and made home there? š¤
I always wondered if the person in the middle of the "seasonal teaser" is really you and you are the quest giver
it makes no sense though
OK makes sense.. So when opening cutscene said they made home in clouds... They were like saying the story at a high level.. What happened was they fell, got help and guidance (4prophets)to ascend. Which the king did. But the elders didn't ascent? Something happened and Eden broke... Because in both the cave murals and opening cutscene the castle is still intact...
Aaand the recent updates to the spirits in dawn shows a fallen star and a child lying there.. That should be a sky kid not the king itself as a kid? Because first cutscene shows a second falling of the stars and then shows sky kid mural
/i was thinking why the elders didnt ascend the moment they can, and instead stay and help the ancestors
/also, who is that child, was it the fallen statues in eden or the prince?
I mean.. First stars fell and made home in clouds...
Then again we see streaks coming down and sky kid mursl
Given recently we saw the dawn spirit updated to show a star falling to the ground(not clouds realm )
I thought the kid in spirit memory was a sky kid
New to sky. Are Elders, dead spirits too? Like the ones we ritrieve their memories?
Because the cutscene clearly makes a difference between stars falling above clouds and sky kid waking up in a plane of existence(?) below that.. After which we actually wake up and start the game
Elders are neither dead or alive
They're in a limbo outside of time and space.
Skoomer
ok skoomer
so i found this cool mural and jdk what's going in it but it looks like Tsadi is beating someone up with some of the elders(?) in the background
The mural itself is hilarious
oof
he ded
I just find how he's laying there so funny
No
Prince
Is rising from the ground
Shining
That's just what my imagination told me
Tsadi is positioned perfectly to look like he's beating him up lmao
Ok btw have we talked about meteor child here yet?
I had to make a meme of that bugged mural so #sky-memes
krilled?
i see youāre talking about the fallen kid so iāll just slap my theories here 
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the fallen kidās identity: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
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why skykids dont age: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
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light beings are hollow: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Nice
/hooooo i never notice the lines
I always had a head canon that skykids are hollow. I thought when they HJĆNKed it's just them resonating as a bell
/pffft honked, i wonder what made the sound inside the hollow shell
Whenever a skid honks, it looks like they have to put effort into it
And I've been wondering why. It's kinda funny.
.
/hello friend any lore thing you wanna discuss
Why skids have to put effort into their honks
I know it's nothing big at all
But
How do they even honk
And produce a huge bubble when honk
How do they even make sound they have like no mouth and they're stone
/light bubble thing
/we charge, we get charge
/like honking charges other people and make creatures charge you
mushrooms react to deep calls :p
sorry about the visual glitch btw
every living thing reacts to deep calls so far, excluding whales and krills
crabs, manta, birds,
i guess should we count mushrooms as living?
mushrooms have always been living you fool šļøšļø
Brick do be correct tho
candles also kind of flare when u deep call tho
yes
woahhh
The amount of details in sky is mind blowing 
theory: the structures in the forest temple looks like what made up some of the hiding places in broken temple, does that mean there was a temple that looked sort of like the forest temple, just bigger?
Well the real temple is always the big building you enter in for to meet the elder
The rest are more like house or others building
theyāre both power diamond factories, however the GW one is slightly bigger iirc
If in gw is a factory, why it have army if the others location don't
itās possible for armies and factories to coexist, friend
Hm or maybe the army need to protect the factory and the kingdom, because the prince constellation look have a diamond on his hands
At the same time, it probably protect the vault wish mean it protect eden who was the place the prince live
but protect against who 
Huh, you know how the guards are
Can protect from krill or something bad
Some of them die in a war
/heyo
/may i ask if they changed the credit song on spotify
/or is my memo is messing with me
It's not here for question
Hey guys what if one of the spirits in the new season have a butterfly call? 
Huh seriously
Idk I'm just sayin
This is more a place for theory
Oooh the light effect during deepcalls
I've loved that detail ever since I found out about hhh
It also happens when u do the races, when you deep call, the fragments of light spreads out and come back to you again hh
Oh hhh,, I was talking about the convo before 
/they changed up the instruments used in the songs-
Oh????
/orrrrr alternitively, my memo is really really messing with me
/then end credits sounded likethiss
Running over rn
/even at launch
/but the one on spotify is different???
/or am i looking at the wrong track
/the track i just linked has more piano
I want krill call
I want krill cal
l
Random picture time
Why in vault does the architecture look so transparent?
jk 
It's so beautiful tbh
It looks like a birdcage if you OOB
Huh maybe there's a reason for that tbh
Skids are very bird like
And their god has the appearance of a bird
I remember people saying that vault could of been a dream, which could explain the unreal and space like vibe to vault when skids adventure in it
Damn... I've always played Sky on mute.. hearing the ending credit soundtrack made me tear up hh

Tbh orbit makes me tear up everytime I visit it including the music
Oooh I also have something to show in random picture time
Isle Elder/fireworks staff in Prairie cave
That is all thank you
Oh yeah I once posted a picture of the same thing
Same braincell? Hhhh
Also, the isle elder and the spirit from gw both hold the same staff. These staffs definitely weren't originally meant for fireworks.
Also it wouldn't likely be caried by a soldier if it was meant for fireworks
Yeah this is who I meant
Okay about that transparent architecture,.... It is to show us that that place is 'for those who came before'.... By that mean, ghost....
Vault is just like sky ghost realm
I take that word from the Vault 4 floor soundtrack's name
Interesting
I also wonder.. what could've been used to make the holes in the clouds and ground in GW..
@pseudo heart also here's this since you posted that screenshot
Also pollution likely at least for gw
You think they came from the same thing?
I think the pollution was from the production of whatever they were doing in GW and the holes were,,, something else?
I think there's also a lot of smoke in the atmosphere that can appear as clouds
The holes idk
So maybe they were attacked by something higher up?
Tbh even when gw's forgotten ark becomes more clean, there's still holes in the clouds
Yes hhh
They burnt holes in the ozone layer lmao
Emmm may I say something..... For normal people, Vault only can be reach until floor 3 i think.....
Then that song began in forth floor
.....thats mean the higher only can be reach by special soul only....
Like ghost,elder,and skykids?
Ghost(manta, whale)
And some bones is there too
Aren't the vault levels supposed to signify each realm?
Hmmmmm
Guess this, the GW is somehow is restricted place for normal peoples....
Also when we watch vault cutscene is summarises where we've all adventured
And people can't proceed more than 3 floor
By """normal people""" you mean,, ancestors?
I don't think tho...,, Ppl can actually access the higher floors via the elevator
Here let me say something more
When we reaching floor 4,the screen turn black just like passing the ghosty realm
I'm just guessing here maybe this is one of cracked lore
The floor from what guys ?
i see floor
The architecture seems like impossible for normal people
Galactic manta are ghost manta if I understand
pretty obvious
That's why we are not a human
And they are not too
Oooh yeah now that you've mentioned it,,, the separation of the floors from 3-4 is like the ones in the portals like how isle-forest(3) are separated from (4)valley-vault
im pretty sure no human exists in sky universe
Emm okay ill leave anything from here now.... Brain juice already empty
im pretty sure no human exists in sky universe
@livid valley not human, but just like human maybe that normal spirit or anything or what u can think just like humans in sky
/no mask dude?
Still glowing eyes
No glowy eyes tho?
I don't talk about skykid dude
XD
Okay sincerely I don't know how the ancestor look like
Maybe like hoomans but more tall from us
But not SOOO big
I don't know maybe just 50+ centimeter

Like the spirit we see today
Or the tallest QG
Okay they not like dinosour size
Aaagggghhh I don't know
Here, I'm confused, then why the Vault size is too small for ancestors.... But the size of spear in GW is too big for tall people like I said
Ehmmmm no ancestors entering the Vault? Just the ghost of them I think?
"For Those Who Came Before"
Ahh leitmotifs doc really2 interesting
This is the doc
Credit to FOREST DWELLER
But the owner said it still not completed yet.....
Ah the owner is typing
when reposting my doc can you credit me? 
I don't remember your name sorryyyyy
The twin elders have a good size
i think vault and forest are shorter than them
Ancestors elder?
Huh...you know the first old one ?
(I forget the name of the place)
Oh, the isle elder?
Yea
He is basically toll old man
Yea
The Sanctuary island Has pressure plates for bells. Why are they needed? Is there a secret code?
#questions-and-help sounds more like where youāll find an answer
Thanks for answer
Hey @modern acorn, it looks like you shared an invite link in a public channel. Sky invites are single use and it's best to share them through DMs
My bad
Is this just a glitch or a real mural
bug
Ok so I am having a crisis I thought Ghost Manta and Regular Manta were a different species but then I remembered in the vault...
The baby manta only pops out near the bones after you light the candles so now i am 
And theres so many...floating bones in vault
I couldnāt get a picture from my phone so i had to take it online but this design might be different but it does remind me of the mega mantas in Sanctuary...
maybe memory mantas are regular mantas that dead because of unnatural cause
and they become ghost/revived
these mantas cant join the reborn cycle, forever roamed on earth...
I like to think that baby cosmic manta is the poor soul we saw krilled š¢
AND I think despite the similarities between that flat multiwings manta (Vault) and the so called "manta elder" (Sanctuary) I personal opinion is that they are different species
Their bone structures seems different
thruthfully, i think the multiwing memory manta is conjoined memory mantas that will form spiral to take us to the summit
Ooohhhhhhhhhhh
The one in Sanctuary to me looks more like a whale, despite not having (maybe yet) the horns in their head-helmet
not yet because I like to think they could be a younger version of a whale, maybe... even if it seems pretty bigger than usual whales.

nice idea Flosh
Yeah it doesnāt look as similar vs the ghost manta to normal manta seem more similar... 
because... my phone is not good for sky (especially in vault) and that multiwing manta sometimes glitched around, like it made of mantas instead of one full being...
you get what i mean
I was thinking similarly that it does look more like conjoined mantas š
aaaand remember that multiwing manta appeared in valley floor...
OH
I think they could be entirely different species, tho. Since the multiwings have babies similar to them
So the only link between similar light creature could be just evolution (in a darwinian terms, not in a pokemon sense)
what
OH right. Forgot they had a little baby multiwing
galaxy mantas
I just came here for a quick shocking observation I made, and then I am starting a biology lecture 
Does someone know why they removed the tiny super recharging mushroom in the Underground area below Sunny Forrest? 
That area is known as Pineswood
After weeks, maybe months I didn't visit that room I went there yesterday night... it's vanished
need a pic might forgotten what is it
lol k ill wait
Before and after you lit it up
Really?!
: I think I just have to report it asb ug for me then
btw, back on the small cosmic manta we summon 
I think the bones that lies there aren't its own
oh, thats a lantern...
Those look more similar to the skeleton of the whale in Forest
Pointy,with an hard skull
Really? I've always heard it called tiny mushroom
yeah, if you do the thing where you piggy someone and do the faint emote through the wall, you'll see its a lantern. One of the lanterns that gets placed on the wall, its just in the wall for this one
I'll try to chibi in there later, thanks
np
so, I just finished Eden and I realized something
Speaking of fast charging spots in ug forest
they removed the exposed flame near the jellyfish that recharged you so fast as well..
it's now a lantern
wait, do we allow spoilers here-?
aH ait
so-
The planet here at the bottom left is most probably the Sky planet, if I'm correct-?
it's position is perfect for the trajectory we took when flying to The Light
oo maybe
if that's true then we're a grey marble 
maybe the land below is dead
like wasteland
yeah, would make sense. Or we're mostly water
just like homespace
and Sanctuary
but here's the curious bit
the right planet. Could this be Journey's world?
:0
Its main color almost perfectly matches the sands seen in Journey, and it's the only other planet in the whole credits scene
and if that iS the world of Journey, that would be the first and only official connection between the two games 
"Journey to Sky" 
i think there was an old trailer to sky but it was for the light awaits where it shows 2 people from Jearney having a child and then that child goes off to explore the world to make what is the light awaits or sky depending on how you see it, but i don't think it's relevant now
might be fan made too š
I can gib link if anyone wants too
Yes pls gib me that

That was beautiful 

ikr
yooo
Look fanmade
It's just taking concept arts and just move em a little
Marketing games aren't like that normally just moving concept arts so ye
Do you guys know if anyone had made an artwork of wasteland before war i was curious to see how it looked
Clearly it was inspired from forest and valley but it's soo green and dull now i want to see how it looked
Not sure there is any
Doesnt one of the new spirits in the teaser look like a ladybug? š¤ They have an interesting mask and cape with dots, the one with the red and dark blue cape...
Ah I've looked into that too,, apparently in many countries including those in east asia especially Korea (which this season seems to be based off) it's a sign of good luck hhhh
And I rlly do hope the mask in the teaser is moon rabbit mask
Y e s

Is there another sleeved Cape already? From previous seasons?
No? Not that I know of??
Yeeee
What is a sleeved cape š„“
Talk about the cosmetics and stuff in #seasons-events-chat chat please 

Oh, those are sleeves? I thought that's just layering in the cape
Lore
yes
the dopo, tho worn like a cape sometimes, was a coat...
Hallo
so ye those r sleeves
hey~~~
imma go to sneep in abt 10 mins so im just popping in for a bit
how many times do we need to tell ppl that journey is a different universe...
wut dya mean?
I mean, what were ya'll talking-
It can just be a reference or a coincidence
that
i came and saw the conversation, prob long over and i said a few things...
Ohh
cuz the sleeved cape is a dopo...
and dopos r coats
so those r sleeves
or at least imitations
Huh
idk why ppl keep saying kimono....
its clearly different...
nvm
do we think the middle dud is mongolian?
the fur cape dud
in the promo
Perhaps
I guess the season will be f i r e
I'm sorry
This sounds are pretty... creepy
The villagers wouldn't be delighted with being set on fire
Gimme some good headcanons/theories about how some spirits died
Oh alright then, I wasn't aware. I'm sorry qwq
My English vocabulary isn't large enough for this
You won
I'm really bad at puns
My narrow vocabulary DOESNT HELP AT ALL SKSKSK
Maybe after the king became a somewhat bad ruler the village become "we don't accept this guy"
I sorta realized thereās like two types of darkness, blue and red
blue is harmless to skykids, while red drains their light
this is mostly about the krill and darkness plants
blue krill light = passive, patrolling
red krill light = hostile, targeting
the darkness plants (blue) dont have much of an effect on skykids, but theyre seen to have somehow killed some of the spirits by growing from the inside
meanwhile, thereās also the red rocks in eden, which drain skykidsā light, more depending on the size and impact
Thereās also the dark debris you can see on crabs and krill, which seems to be making them hostile
also remember that right before the point of no return, there are dead skykids with blue crystals growing on them. I know this is a reference to the old version of sky. but I wonder if it has any significance regarding what you mentioned
oh yeah, thats true
i think either it was red before and lost its harmful capabilities, or skykids evolved to be immune to blue darkness
maybe once it had no light left to consume it turned blue
ooo that makes sense
When we use a part of our energy to fly,we have blue light for a split second as well
we were talking a bit back how eden may of been a "garden" of light, maybe the red crystals are literally eating away eden
c o n s u m e
I suppose blue is more of a ālack of lightā while red is darkness itself
So maybe blue darkness is a lack of light,not entirely darkness
haha same braincell
I-
We had the same brain cell omg
What is this power we've possessed for one second
huh?
I dont think theyre actually originally hostile
at the same time?
SORRY WRONG WORDS
ah
Its the debris falling from them thats making them krill ppl
MY ENGLISH BREAKS AT MIDNIGHT
haah it's fine
proof: crabs have the debris on them too, but thereās crabs without it on sanctuary islands, which dont attack you
Wait crabs without debris on sanc islands don't attack you??
I'm traumatised by the crabs in the big tree cave
Why don't they have debris though
true, but also bear in mind that crabs have a physical body and are more grey-ish, while krills are completely opaque and do not have a physical body, like a shadow
True
Ooo maybe the krill are the origin of the debris
and it fell onto the crabs
but then, why are they in areas without krill?
((I think krills are opaque because if they have physical bodies in the game will either make your phone a microwave or make the crash itself,but this isn't lore but game mechanic so-))
I suppose crabs could be natively from wasteland and migrated
they seem to be in places with a lot of darkness plants
maybe its volcanic ash?
the cave resembles a volcanic tube so ig they got it there
Sanctuary is well
A sanctuary
So many life forms live there
I mean crabs are kinda grey while krill have almost no color
Almost all
krill are black, and their models do show depth
like a shadow
AND OH BOI DO THOSE DARK PLANTS GROW BIG-
krills have depth, they arenāt just a void of darkness
but yeah I guess it could be a matter of game mechanics, but was it not confirmed that there are both natural light and dark creatures?
Was it confirmed???
the wording is vague but itās often interpreted that way
Dark plants are pure darkness,I guess
it's vague but that's what it looked like to me
Krills are really black
then why do we get wax (light) from them ? 
I wonder... thereās a quest called āknock over 5 dark creature crabsā. Do the passive crabs in sanctuary count towards this?
It s u c k e d the light from the ground
There's a light miner
but if knocking passive crabs does not work, then that might confirm that crabs were not originally dark creatures
So there might be light under the ground
Bet the devs weren't ready for this
the one that got consumed by the darkness plants... it reminds me of hanahaki, but without the love part
and if it does work, then that could imply that not all dark creatures are aggressive like krill
just a horrifying death by plant 
Krill is neutral until we fall into its sight
So is crab
Maybe they want to consume light?
I mean why be aggressive when there's nothing to attack?
Opposites attract
..I'm sorry-
it's weird tho, if light creatures get energy from light, dark creatures... consume light too?
Its kinda cool how thereās the three primary colors
I mean darkness seems to harm light creatures, wouldn't light hurt dark creatures by that logic?
yellow=light, blue=lack of light(?), red=darkness
Maybe they just tackle light for no reason other than "we dark creatures,light bad,fight light"
that's what I thought
I read somewhere that blue is associated with ancestors and the man-made stuffs
While yellow is nature
Red is purely for danger,I think-
Oh ye spirits are blue (tho they become yellow wehn you ascend them)
which is interesting considering our souls are blue
you see a blue light descend when you choose a friend in your constellation, and when you shatter in eden you are reduced to a blue wisp before going to the Col room
yes but I'm going off what you said last, that blue is associated with ancestors and the man-made stuff
Ohh
hereās my theory on what skykids r made outta:
skykids are primarily made out of stone/some sort of rock and light. our capes are obviously made out of light, so thatās why when you look down when youāre flying your cape doesnāt have a shadow since light canāt give off a shadow. our BODIES however, are made out of some stone material hence that our bodies can give off shadows. we can bump into things and bump into other kids without phasing through them like light would do
true, blue is associated with a lot of the ancestors, their spirits, their creations and power gems, etc.
Maybe our spirits are like the ancestors
We are humanoid creatures who can do things and talk
yeah I like the idea of skykids being a golem/atomation like being
Whereas the light creatures' spirits are yellow,since they're pure beings of light
I-
sentient meteor robot things
That's it I'm calling us sentient meteor
I mean golems are just fancy stone robots tbh
obviously their physical bodies are made out of something other than light
they r ...... gargoyles
iām gonna call every moth i find a gargoyle
What's a gargoyle
and it makes a lil ding sound when we hit something solid, implying that we ourselves are made of something solid
also we're incapable of swimming once we get below the surface level
we kinda just....float
Gargoyle
Water physics in Sky is weird
stone monstas
me a few months ago: noo skykids are made of light and stuff
me recently: haha golem skykid theory go ding
OH
are skykids hollow?
technically the light in skykids should only be their cape and mask. the light fuels us so we can live on and not crumble like actual statues ||example: the statues in eden. the statues in eden are completely unmoving and dead until we offer them our light||
so technically we r like stone statues with fuel lol
and the ones that we can't save get reduced to dust
I have the theory that all cosmetics are made out of light
chat is dead, all of a sudden
WE ARE THINKING-
This is a hard question ok
i think the cosmetics are made out of actual material like cloth and stone but yeah for them to get their colour and stuff light would have to be implemented into the cosmetics
since we go grey when we r out of light
I used too much brain cell so I took a break to recharge it
And spirits giving out an actual wooden table?Unlikely
more skykids failed to escape eden, so they got stuck as statues
so more statues
ignore the fact that they are in the exact same position, that ain't important 
I have a bit of story for it but it's not completely related to lore
So uhh
It might not count
yesh I support this too
But here it is anyways
Every time we get into the game on a new device,we see an entirely new skid
But after we hit that abandon button to change to our normal account,the skid automatically get sent to Eden since it has no life,no purpose,nothing it can do anymore.
But because it has no winged lights to save any statue and itself,it just stand there,waiting for death.
It get to the glowy boi room but never hold the boi,just lying there,thus it's stuck in that room forever and be a statue forever.
Until we give us our winged lights
The body has a soul now.It can finally break free and return to the light.
At the end,the abandoned skids thank us for setting them free and come back to the Sky,waiting to be a new skid in the future.
What is this writing it's terrible
please tolerate my writing
Is there any lore about the eden king? All I know is that it's "way to late for him to save him" and I would love to read more about them š
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once youāve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
you can read about him here, but there are also plenty of theories about him in the theory docs, and remaining canon info in the canon docs
Tysm! pretty excited to hear about the lore of the game šš
Ok people are talking about stuff
hold on
Ok so the skykid definitely opens up some new possibilities
but also completely wrecked my timeline so rjjekdjdhe
The skykid is wingless
we dunno if wl exists yet,or even what it is,itās apparently imprints of skykids
but nvm
the villagers find the fallen child
and do something with it????
I
I need to sneep
Iām too tired to make theoryās
it's interesting, because up until the new cutscene we thought that skykids came into existence years even centuries after the fall of the kingdom
I'm not sure if the fallen child in the new version of the Isle spirit memories is related to the next season, since it seems like the new season will be taking place in Valley.
I think it may be a callback or something to the early beta versions of the game, where there were fallen children on the beach in Isle and you originally woke up there yourself when you first started the game. Since the home space as we know it didn't exist yet, everyone started in Isle first and had to go through there as the tutorial before getting to the Aviary part
But I'm not sure how that fits into the timeline of the ancestor spirits and sky kids existing at the same time or separately lol
waaaaiiii my timeline is in SHAMBLES
however, I believe that there were some survivors of the initial eden incident, but died later. so who's to say that the new cutscene doesn't take place after eden was destroyed
What if the fallen child is the child of light the completed all the trials?
yoo, actually that got me thinking, what if the fallen child is the prince 
imo i think the fallen child is thƩ CoL/prince/king/eden child all in one
yeah prolly
guys
okay so
yesterday brick menitoned that eden castle is somekind of church rite
well here is the thing : eden castle might be eden temple, thus proving the existence of eden elder
now, eden here is called as holy land for sky kingdom
and the question is, how eden can be called as holy land?
Okay its 1 am here and i have exam tommorow so im gonna write this real quick. And im terribly sorry for any spelling mistake
Remember prophecy mural? We all knoe prophecy mural telling us how sky kingdom come to be. The CoL succeeding the trials, claim the elements, etc etc
One thing to be noticed is how Eden mountain is depicted in this mural
One part of the mural showing us the CoL climbing up to eden mountain with Lamed after giving elements to 4 elders. We can see some sort of golden beam shot up from the mountain peak. And the next mural show us the āascensionā of CoL, presumably become the King or high leader or something
The āholy landā designation for eden might come from this event. But what if it come even far before the ascension event happened? Far far before the CoL succeeding the trials? As the highest peak and also as the part of Sky land that can be touched by the Light itself, hence the golden beam in the mural.
For this part is only my assumption so please take it with grain of salt.
In the final mural we can see the CoL being surrounded by the Reborn Cycle. From what i see in game, the reborn cycle only happened after we taking part on it. We, the children of light, basically the trigger of the Reborn Cycle itself. The CoL here is our predecessor and the founder of sky kingdom
What if CoL was originally didnt have ability or any influence over the Reborn Cycle? They can only have influence over Reborn Cycle after they succeded the trials and proof their worthiness as a leader, as a guide. The ultimate prize of the trials are not only the elements but also the recognition as the highest leader of sky people and also light creatures who will lead them to the Light.
And thats why Eden called as holy land, because thats where the CoL get recognized by the Light itself and claim the ultimate prize as the leader of the Reborn Cycle.
so uhm im new into this lore and i wish to know more about it. so can someone tell me where should i start ? š
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Hey, I don't know if any of you already pointed this out but I found this room into the forest temple, any thoughts?
idk if ppl still do this here but,,
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Where does this pointy/skeletal reference to the king come from in game? I can't seem to find the mural or statue that shows the head everyone uses for him.
I think you can find some statues of him in battlefield
there used to be something behind the door but eventually was removed and the door locked 
Actually i managed to pass that door with a friend a week ago
It'a short video i make when we entered the room
Oh
How did you get the 3d model of that
reika shared the krill model in gen chat a while ago
thank u
My theory on the new cutscene boi goes like this:
Since its generally accepted that the king is the prince is the trial mural shinyboi, it is obvious that the trials were there for picking the king of the sky kingdom, like flos, me, and several other theories suggest...
And opening the Ascension beam could only be done by the prince AFTER his coronation on eden... so we can assume the trials gave the elemental wisdoms, and using this new knowledge (and possibly new powers gained from the knowledge too) the prince became the only one that could open and close the Ascension beam, and making the rebirth cycle... so basically its a slight altercation to @bitter shale 's theory but it makes more sense when cross referenced with the mural
(Plus this one was made first) no offense flos your theory was top notch
And the new dud in the new cutscene is prob the prince... u know in the CoP murals the prince fell from the sky after the elders fell first? The stargazer is the one that found him and brought him to the CoP, which makes that cutscene take place right before proph...
all I want is spirit lore
is there any confirmed spirit lore, I want to talk spirits
they're so intriguing
Well it's clear they all died 
They were present before the COL, and appear to have founf the col on the beach
Oop... Forgot to remove that
not confirmed, but i have a crackpot theory that ancestors donāt have eyelids and lick their eyes like lizards šļøš šļø
i was thinking the col they found on the beach was the prince
and thats before he did the trials
so i think the stargazer cutscene takes place right before the trial murals
^
and when the stargazer found the prince, they took him to the prophets
who were like "he`s the chosen one!"
and the prince succeeded in all the trials
and then the rest is known lore
i wonder if other kids fell down before the prince though? and they also took the same trials?
would explain the bodies in the murals
oh the prince was the eden elder... there were no skids back then
by kids i mean kids in the way that the "prince" looked like one in the stargazer memory
yknow how in all the prophet memories there r 2 other student spirits? they went into the trials.... guess wut happened to them
yknow how in christianity god shaped ppl in his image?
except either megan or the prince made skids in the prince`s image
so before us, the prince was the only one that looked like the prince
like if megan made skids in the image of lamed, we would all look like lamed
buuuuut unfortunately since the prince did bad things, blew up eden in a redemption attempt, then killed all the ancestors and now he wants to clean up the mess, we were made by the tiny prince... not buff tsadi or cool teth...
How long are their tongues lmao
yes
awww thx!
Do you think that the spirits are aware that they are dead?
prob... ye...
Imo, they did. Thats why we can interacted with them (buying their stuff etc)
Sky is probably the only kid friendly game about people killing themselves
... Well you're not wrong
lmaoo
not directly showing it, only hints
also this game have a very vague lore anyway so not all players noticed it
well except for people who like lores 
hey, lets not make jokes about suicide, thank you
My point still stands
sorry for that
[awkward silence]
Whatās the lore around the current air/water/fire/earth trials? The murals made it look like either just that- a trial/test, but Iām not sure if thereās more significance
there's the theory that these trials were to test who had the qualities to become king of sky
@fierce burrow Just search up "murals" "prophecy murals" "trial mural" and you can adventure from there.
It's wayyyyy more than just "oh do the trials"
It's hard to explain
the golden child in the murals made it through all the trials and thus became king (from the kinda abstract crown shape on their head in the largest mural)
that's one way you might be able to look at it but you can look through the channel history/fan theory doc for more discussion/perspectives 
This trial just like the museum for skykids....
The prophets are their teachers...
Hey kids come here play this trial and you'll get WL boiys
help im stuck writing prophecies
@fierce burrow
that
the elemental wisdoms were used to open the beam to ascension
and the trials were for picking the king
like arthur`s sword
surprisingly enough, the prince was also in a high position before the fall of the elders...
back in orbit
we think
hello lore people
Is it just me or are some of the imgur links in the masterpost mirian sent a year ago is broken
Edit: looks like itās back to normal wow
unorganized?
oohh thanks !
ill have a good read, thankss ! š
also, read this
first
This room in vault is like a planetarium... Who thinks we might get season constellations in here someday?!?
oohhhh thank youu. plus im still new with discord but i think ill managed it
hehe ye
discord can be disorienting too at first
Been wondering what that room is
room
room
rooooom
Room of scholars graveyard
Iāve heard
Thereās
A
Eden
ELDER?
@small terrace @hushed steeple
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Is there a prince and king elder spirit?
oh ok then
@hushed steeple, @small terrace, we think:
eden elder=prince=king=mural shinyboi=maker of the irsl shinybois=alef=resh=maker of skids=destroyer of eden=orbit hug kid
read this
burning braincells? make sense
we cant meet them?
isnt the canon that we cant save them?
there is a consideralbly large possibility that we r parts of the king...
"the eden elder is not around to be saved anymore"
they cant be saved cuz its us
i think
its just a theory friend
bru
Is there a lore about the statues at eden?
Ok
there r 3 types of statues in eden
Lutum ignis
3rd generation Sky Kids
Lutum pessima
2nd generation Sky Kids
Lutum pulvis
1st generation Sky Kids
these were the skids made to clean up after the kingdome fell
they were meant tosave the spirits
but they had flaws
all of the generation are meant to save spirits?
pretty bad at our jobs tbh
gen 3 could only ascend with outside help
gen 4 is us
and we can ascend and get reborn
we also sheperd the ascension of the light creatures too
the arrival of a skid starts the final stage of the light creature migration to orbit
which used to be done by the prince
so basically gen 4 is a success
Prince?
the prince was an elder
not exactly one
Oh
Then how did the gen 1, 2 and 3 skid became corrupted?
they didnt... prob
they were like us
but some functions didnt work
like ascension of rebirth
and they were slowly claimed by darkness
I mean by becoming statues
like us
They were said as the fallen when you enter pnr
we get all dark dusty and stuff in eden when we die
we become the fallen too
but we ascend
gen 2 and 3 couldnt
so thats why they stay like that
Oh
when we light the gen 3 statues they ascend too...
the gen 3 statues r usually reffered to as the fallen
since they r the only gen we can save
Then what happened to gen 1 and 2?
gen 1 ascended but they couldnt get reborn
gen 2 couldnt ascend at all and they kinda froze, got corrupted, and got impailed by rocks at the same time...
T.T
So gen 2 shatter to pieces...
no we can still see their corpses
nice im stepping on gen 2 corpses
the blu skids
Oh...
those r the ones that ascend and turn to dust
there may be other gens in between that we dont know abt
they ascended into orbit?
no
..ok
Also what is with the red light when you enter pnr?
pnr?
wuts pnr
The place where you met statues
ohhhhhhhhhh stormlock
point of no return
I hear people calling it pnr so I just followed
thats wut used to power the king`s mech
like a reactor
but the king tried to redeem himself and blew it all up
oh you meant the red diamond
thats why its corrupted and red
Oh
so what colour do you think it is used to be eh?
I think blue or yellow
rock and crystal rain is pieces of the mech, stones from the mountain, the king`s charred flesh, and pieces of the diamond flying around
Oh those rocks are diamond
prob blu when uncharged and yellow when charged
Thought they were just regular rocks
nah its just diamond shape
red ones r corrupted diamonds and the other opaque rocks r wut i said
diamonds are made with light creatures
pieces of the mech, stones from the mountain, the king`s charred flesh and some other stuff
Ok
like that
we put that juice into rocks mined b the light miners and voila
Are the falling rocks also corrupted diamonds?
only the red sparkly ones
hm..
the ones that look like rocks r pieces of the mech, stones from the mountain, the king`s charred flesh and some other stuff
that would be too bright for sky tho....
oh you mean rocks are literally too awesome for sky
idk man rocks are very very common
someone help me out?
what is this rock your talking about..
normal falling rocks wouldnt match with the grim and dark vibe of the kingdom of sky....
the rock rain
in eden
imo the "rocks" that rain r pieces of the mech, stones from the mountain, the king`s charred flesh and some other stuff
it could be just a giant mountain rocks just being thrown around
by the very strong wind
ye
itās prob just the byproduct of the light industry
A question:
Why does the citadel look so-
I mean citadel what was the place used to be before,it's weird how citadel is so empty yet it holds a big role for the city in valley-
Was it an important place before? What are those circle stuff-
Was the valley and wasteland one big city before?
How come that place recharge us?
valley was descried to be a city
wasteland and forest were on e big city
Speaking of valley, I'm kinda curious, why is it made as a stadium? Do the valley elder used to hold tournaments or some sort?
The whole of valley is a city?
Races and stuff-
The buildings in the flying race looked different than the slide race.
But both meet at one place
valley`s upper area is where all the rich ppl lived and they needed entertainment
so the whole place is sports...
the citadel is for sacrifices and gods and praying for megan to help them win
and the rest were the races and a fun scuba diving/skating place
huge birds
the Pseudochelidon dapalis was most often used as a sacrificial bird as their carcasses did not decompose even after a few centuries
Pseudochelidon dapalis- the ded bird? At the. Start?
they were believed to be a symbol of eternal devotion to the megabird (?)
(probably)
Pseudochelidon- the ded bird? At the. Start?
@junior robin yes
Whoa-
I was wondering what are these
those r barricades
to stop phalanx charges
the trenches next to them r for providing defalade against the war beasts, also known as krill
Oh my-
and the tiny yellow blob is called a child of light, created by megan and/or the prince to save the spirits
no no the dud in a yellow cape is a skid
the shinybois r IMPRINTS of the children of the light
OH MY GOSH-
Wait there are non aggressive crabs?
SCIENTIFIC NAMES B
Where is this non aggressive crab at?
Non aggressive crabs In the ||office||
Oh...
wait wut nono those attack
i once read a theory where it says that the vault elder is the villain...
Whot really they attack too
office is not canon
Oóooh right-
office things dont go in the scientific name doc
Ooohhh
this is pog
Also one last question, what is the home? I'm kinda weirded out at the fact that the home is just a small island surrounded by sea with some portals and cave for cosmetics
vault is clean cuz they stopped the allied offensive at wasteland
isle used to be smaller but the water receded so the boats were beached.. or those r early flying ship-building experiments
@sinful flume, @livid valley, @rugged barn
home was created by megan and/or the prince to be a base of operations for a xenos organization called TGC
lmao
Hm....
vault is clean cuz they stopped the allied offensive at wasteland
isle used to be smaller but the water receded so the boats were beached.. or those r early flying ship-building experiments

scary-