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mongolian dud?
/also, the qg has little cosmetics
I hope the girl become qg!
Did y'all relese the come and point Spirits?
yes
Is the fetus prince or us?
YES
Yeah
/the middle girls seems to have the less cosmetics
we need to talk abt that cutscene
If she become the QG what can she offer to be exclusive item?
waitwait one topic at a time
She have a ponytail
Ouh kk
Maybe Yeti boi is the qg
Ho-how many ponytail.....

the cutscene
What if the season have quest for raise a child in the middle (it takes a village to raise a child) and eventually she become a qg? 
Wait I'll get sss
Uhm..
ppl plz...... cutscene first then season im getting dizzy...
yes
That child probably can be prince
THE 1ST SKID
alef
Prince

Did trials-
Coz Megan kick him out from Eden
Wut
na
Why-
Lolol
not megan
Guys that isn't is the same animation as when we're back from orbit in home,?
thats debris from the king`s mech and stuff
Ah tingle tingle!
Arhhhhhhhh I'm falling away
u know how its unclear how the prince fell?
Or they just random skid and show what spirits were doin when ancient?
No at all
all skids spawn in homespace
thats alef
for sure
Journey and sky are they relatedđ krills in journey was a war Machine is it the. Same in sky too?
Are you sure is the prince? Seems absolutely as a sky kid who lost all his light
no
dev confirmed no
Ok Oki
thats the prince before gaining the wisdoms
no wl skid is darker
and has a cape
Ye that kid so same like the one we hug
Yeah we as a plyer spawn in home space but what they have is storylines skid
orbit skid is way lighter than that tho
When you lost your flame
When we lost our flame we not turning white
But its spirit
We become greyish black
homespace is lore its not a game mech that megan or the prince made skids a homespace.....
Also isle is begin so kids without cape are actually normal
Actually its spirits memory
Sometime new update bring us some clues
true
So you are not sure about anything too right?
Yep
Why the child we hug now became white pale not lightly like usual
Spirit memories are brighter than the true things
And why they update the child that fall also white
the spirits all died and a thousand years later skids were made so that is rlly rlly prob not a skid......
BOOM
lol
Maybe anciant skid were hot like just born stars so they hella bright?
Damnn
Ehheheh

ancient skid was called the prince
We never questioned if the time works as we know in sky
Iyyyyyuuhhhhhh hot star from Megan

let it go~~~~
Hmm I don't think it's a loop
me 2
Coz we reborn back
ye
And thats not called as loop
What? But some of them in the past says its edens elder 
Maybe someone spread wrong lore here 
king=prince=eden elder=shinyboi in murals=maker of irsl shinybois=the jango fett of skids
Wth
No im foreign

Seems like if the time really be frozen, why we have to reborn once and once and once if is supposed that everything is fixed with that? The statues are saved, the light is with the fallen. Also, Vault Archives seems to be more ancient that the main structure and it is like it was thousand of years ago
im korean and i know star wars.....@shadow star
star wars is an international thing....
BRUH I'M KOREAN TOO WTH 
Lolol
I've never saw Star Wars 

Not usually happen here right? 
But let's continue in lore-topic pless! 
I've never saw star wars too
yesyes bacc to lore
Talk
Yaya
Kinda, I have my theories but sure, keep telling!
thats... abt it
Keep goin if ya want
Seriously?
ye

cave of prophecies
The voice of @teal orbit is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
Lol
look skybot agrees
AjĂĄ
... technichally isn't the rest post-history since we don't yet hasve access to recordings that would make it history?
post-history? wuts that?
The part we can read up on in murals is history. The stuff we can't is after the end of our history
or before but focusing on the stuff that came after shiny boi lit the beacon
isnât the term pre-history ?
Also Pyre, who says that the kids aren't ancient as the spirits? We can just be a new generation of Sky Kids, and the kids be another light creature around there
post implies...after...which is the present
Pre-history ios for stuff that comes before what we have recorded
"a long time has passed" says the opening cutscene....
We don't have a lot of post-history in today's age because we have hsitory going from the start to the present
I know buuuut
but in Sky, the murals only take us so far forward into the past, so everything after that would be post-history
the kingdom collapsed then after a long time megan made skids....@kind musk
forward into the past
?
Megan is not confirmed

but one thing is certain.... we were made after the fall
ok let me try to rephrase ccause my mind wraps around time concepts esier than most people.
The last recorded day of the era is not the last day of the era
yes,
wait i think i get it
lemme
lemme draw it
So there is a segment of the era that does not have hhistory that comes after the segment of the era we have history for
Another thing is certain, the boi who made the eden explosion theory is a genius
As far as that era is concerned, this later segment is post-history because it came after our history
let me introduce u to"a long time has passed"
"A long time has passed" is not adequate to be history for the entire section of time
I know how it works
HAHA DID U HEAR THAT GUYS?????!!!!!
IM A GENIUS!!!!!!

It is an acknowledgement of the missing historical records
Did you MAKE it?
ye
what ? pyre didnât make the eden explosion theory
king blew up eden
Be one day in the shower singing and that theory released
it was around before you even came to lore chat, pyre
rlly?
yes
Was YOU brick 
ive been here since may/june and you joined around august
well
anyways
back to discussions of the fallen child/prince/king/eden elder
ye
Yup

Aww I thought you were gonna share the lil chart you made explainig what I meant by post-history
ok i gotta sneep now
ok hĂšre it is, then
excuse my bad handwriting
Because pronounce king spawns brick
bye!!!!!
gn pyre 
Bye Pyre, nini
ive basically outlined all my thoughts about the fallen child and their significance
although iâm trying to revamp my bit of the theory regarding what happens after the fall and where skykids come from
I have to grummp because it's getting harder to make Megan evil and a number of my theories are probably toast.
but... meh.
If that's a beta cackle because Megan has been revealed evil in Beta, this ONE TIME you can spoil me in DMs.
nah, itâs just my personal thoughts
beta wipe happened yesterday my friend
no one has access to beta
oh
I had no clue because I purposely don't follow Beta
ok I need to start my day. Later guys!
seeya !
ahh have we theorized on the updated isle spirits yet? i missed most of the discussions
im theorizing with a friend rn hh about the whole thing but its a bit too long and confusing to type it in
see you brick <3
thats okay ginko, nobody is really talking rn so feel free to type your essay
maybe sometime else, sadly i gtg soon
Heyooo
Yeah as I remember Eden goes boom
Coz of King do something to the diamond
Ouh day time there huh.....
Who
Is
Megan?
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What happened with the king?
this guy have a cannon on its chest ._.
Ouh new guy
the pipes kinda lead all the way to eden tbh
accidently went inside the statue ._.
its uh not the best angle
but yea you can see the pipes
i had more pics of those fellas
Those reminds me about the turrets concept đ
tbh u can see them at the proph murals (tsadi giving them fire power)
I thought that's vault tower?đ
there were more at the last mural
Tsadi hiding that light in vaultđ ?
Here
This is the first one
I see...
Horrible war
they caused it themselves
dont u think they lowkey deserve what they get for taking what they shouldnt? (beware the trials)
what do you think is the name of the next season?
Season of Youth??
questions about the season go in #questions-and-help or #seasons-events-chat
^^^
I've just realised I've never explored very much of wasteland
I went to high places but never visited the krill
All krills want to hit you
Which is weird since it seems like its only there for aesthetics
Well
It did hit the ship
is there a doc or something for prophecy lore ideas?
Check the theory doc in the pins there might be some there 
wait the spirits changed
Oh god
This messes up the timeline so much
but makes some sense
The sky kids sometimes stratch their head, does that mean that they uhh
About that symbol in teaser I've seen it in valley before
On this wall in valley
There are 2 different ones
Its everywhere not just in valley
Too*
yeah you can see it in vault as well
You mean this one? Yeah interesting symbol neither less may mean something in the future
Mentioning the valley villagers got me thinking of these structures we pass by every day, were they homes? Temples?
according to concept art, that part of valley is literally a street
So they must be unfurnished homes or smthn
well.. pretty sure they're not temples.
acc. to the temples in the whole game, they seem like houses
I think we might see next season, since that seems to be based in Valley
pretty sure it's valley
I just realized that a sky kidâs first reaction is to anything is to burn it
Sky: Pyromaniac Children
lol
the theory that ppl talking here is cool but...
why would the take the child to valley. I mean prairie is just right up there
because valley is amazing
um...
valley has slides and slides go brrrrr
i kinda expecting a theory or explanation lol
they did valley because it's the only realm they haven't done a season in yet (may be incorrect)
the picture on the wiki that shows all the cosmetics for gratitude was taken in valley
im not sure if it's official or taken by the fans
well... maybe prairie is actually just caves and mantas, where valley is kinda civilized and kinda convenient for a child i guess
and forest is definitely not good for a child
u also see a child spirit in valley compared to the other areas
btw tbh valley is the only civilized place in sky
im p sure a lot of people lived in valley, meaning that there were a lot of families there
oh ya
but prairie village
there are civilizations everywhere, its just that valley's houses kinda.. "remained despite the damage"
i think praire is more agricultural based compared to a metropolis like valley
i mean ya but valley might be the most populated before destruction
true
probs
we'll never know
valley was the capital in the concepts, it seems that has remained consistent
an old timeline said valley was the capital so a lot of people probably li- ok.
man i was about to say that
judging by the size of the kingdom, i donât think itâs unreasonable to think everyone lived in the valley and then would travel to prairie/forest/gw/vault for work
by the darkness...
I'm so confused
so valley could very well have been where everyone, if not at least most the population lived
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Ty!
here ppl will talk about the story of the game
i suggest also maybe reading the canon doc in the pins â€ïž
relating this to the « it takes a village » comment, it could be a look into how children were raised in the valley, their social structure, and their society as a whole
that's what im thinking too
all a side... why there is a yeti there
valley is at a high altitude, i donât think theyâre a « yeti », i think theyâre someone dressed very warmly
likely a ski mask of sorts made of furs
i wonder where they got all this fur from
hunting probably
well... it's too lively. hard to believe it's just fur
you can see in the image that the fur cuts off around the base of the neck/start of the shoulders
from there, it becomes warm robes, and their arms are not covered aside from what seems like gloves
this looks like a suit made of fur
new ssn in general, just scroll up a bit
ssn ?
maybe it's just magic like... come on there are flying mantas here
Some of those capes definitely have fur on them
sry season*. i forget its my abbreviations and not a common shortcut
magical fursuit
What if the character on the left of the teaser image is a moth?
Because there's also that character who looks like a ladybug
So maybe there's a slight insect theme
youâre looking for zebras when a horse is right in front of you
itâs literally just warm clothes
humans have been doing this for centuries; wearing fur of animals they have hunted, often over their faces in especially cold weather
i doubt thereâs magic involved in something non-magical humans have been doing since we learnt to hunt
Or wait maybe the character on the left is like a winter hare
for me i see it as yeti, rabbit, ladybug, korean man (i forgot the term for him sry). and i think its more season based? like summer winter spring fall kind of thing
the dude with the 3-string guitar is wearing a korean hat and possibly a japanese théùtre mask
Maybe the character on the left represents a snowshoe hare
But uh it's red not white
đș ive seen people compare the hat manâs mask to this
sry but what character exactly
i had korean pins that had the korean terms but i dunno where it is;
The one on the left of the image
Their outfit is all red
Has the bunny looking ears
thats tengu mask tho, tengu is more of a crow yokai. if they said firemask i might at least think about it
but not tengu
so you think it's just moth?
Not anymore
haha
wasnt red and gold a good luck thing in china? (with the rabbit)
I think so
the...lunar bunny? english is leaving me
« they » ?
so yeti is just a big guy like fire prophet?
who needs prophets, skybot to the rescue!
Are there any popular Asian holidays around this time of the year? Possibly the season represents an Asian holiday with all the Asian themes
im assuming you mean southeast asian ?
they, the people u mentioned
I'm not sure
we passed the lunar new year and it had a bunny and the theme was red and gold ((it was from a dif game tho but china based))
Hmm
wait i dunno if its called 'lunar new year' lemme confirm
isnt the lunar new year (in china, at least) in mid january or february ?
ya but 2021 will be the year of Ox so...
i forgot the event name im looking for it 
need more Easter eggs for better lore theories
Since spirits are always stuck in the past in what seems to be a physical form, then the season could take place in the past at a certain time when a holiday was going on
maybe the spirits celebrated the « days of feast » that are coming up ?
Maybe
The sky world probably celebrates holidays similar to ours but not the same as ours ofc
thus far the celebrations have been:
Days of Summer Lights
Days of Mischief
Days of Giving
Days of Feast
i was reading one of the stories and there is this "rabbit on the moon story" which has a rabbit, monkey, fox. not sure if its related but i feel that maybe we might find hints in the mid-autumn festival?
So then maybe it's a Christmas-like holiday or a new years holiday
probs
ooo ok ok can i go off on an anthropologist ramble about winter feasts
because like
everyone does them
Sure
ye plz
make sure u copy the text before u send it so skybot doesnt beam it like before
Lul
winter feasts can be found around the globe
im not entirely sure why, but it probably has something to do with eating a bunch as the weather gets colder so that you have some fat on you to keep you warm and also as energy stores incase the going gets tough. additionally, big community meals are GREAT for social bonding, most mammals treat communal eating as a sign of trust. eating means letting your guard down, so you trust the people youâre eating with enough to let your guard down, chat, and relax
so imagine, winter in the sky kingdom, thereâs this massive 7-day (im guessing itâll be 7 days) celebration where you spend all this time with your community and put on 10 or so pounds. and when itâs over, you all get ready to stretch the remaining food from the harvest thin over the winter and get other things done, such as weaving or sewing or small artistic projects. this is assuming the sky kingdom has medieval technology ofc, considering the existence of power diamonds they might have thermal tech that lets some people (factory workers probably) continue to go to work
but yeah thereâs my (hobbyist) anthropological thoughts on the days of feast !
:0
additionally, i havenât brought this up here but i will now, ive been thinking about skyâs agriculture and general wellbeing of its citizens, and it seems they were plentiful with food (like, nowadays levels of plentiful)
around sky we can see labourers and workers who, despite their physically taxing jobs, are pretty chubby. now, historically, labourers were usually the thinnest/most malnourished class, especially in industrial times. however, here we see theyâre pretty well off
thus iâm going to make the educated guess that the sky kingdomâs agriculture was bountiful and very very well managed + distributed
good eye
ive been thinking a lot abt the health, appearance, and clothing of sky inhabitants
just paying attention to things as simple as that we could get a very good idea of the general society and organization of the sky kingdom
this is also why « no lore » seasons like gratitude, belonging, rhythm, and sanctuary are important
even if they donât tell us about the king, elders, or megabird, they still tell us about the society at large and offer more information about the world
like in belonging we see capes used to denote hierarchy in a family
i have yet to see anyone take that concept and run with it for the rest of the caped spirits 
i've been thinking more about the animals tbh, the things they built (to me) weren't built to last but seem more temp. and whatever animals they had have no record or even mural or hint of other animals (its just the mantas/birds/whales/whurtles/krills/crabs/jellyfish)
and whatever animals they had have no record or even mural or hint of other animals
what about the masks?
like i've seen hints of older civilization but not of the animals (except for the creatures that already exist in sky)
true the masks are a good hint but wont we at least see a mural or workplace? đ€
or even bones
hm i have a thought
maybe not all the animals before the explosion were light/dark
maybe some were just...animals
like the ones we have here
regular boars or weasels or rabbits or deer
etc etc
the only creatures that survived the eden blast were the « pure » ones
the pure light/dark creatures
yeah tbh i was more inclined on that too xD
its a nice thought, would explain some stuff
do you think the people in sky are all nice people?
They seem to be for the most part but there were likely bad apples
i donât think that question has a satisfactory answer
i mean, do you think all people on earth are nice people ?
true but im not looking to be satisfied xD
The ones we relive the memories of are generally good people
cuz the first time i played sky everyone (the spirits and elders) seemed all, nice. but with some things ive seen in my theories and some old concepts im not that convinced
Depending on your view of the abuse of crabs
my crabs â€ïž
i donât think « nice » is really a quantifiable thing
itâs subjective, itâs unclear
if we wanted to figure out whoâs « nice » in sky, it would devolve into a philosophical debate that i donât think counts as sky related
true ._.
Yeah
sometimes moral judgements are easy, but often they are convoluted and individual-specific
all we know for sure is that their society collapsed, and brought most living beings along with it
was it out of greed and political corruption ? or was it out of ignorant hubris and power grabs ? all at once ? something else ? thatâs for you to decide
All at once is my guess
That king has.... Like five statues of himself we see before we exit gw and into vault lul
from what i saw in the murals it was greed mainly
oh boy they're everywhere xD
well, there seemed to be a council of elders
debatable if the ancestors even had a say in it though
Well, when one has the most power ig
to me king wasnt really in charge but the elders were
But many forms of power have bad effects
Especially mentally
People with too much power start thinking too highly of themselves
And even groups of people
Etc
âšabsolute power corrupts absolutelyâš
The King being in that position of the highest power doesnât seem like something they really intended but it just kinda happened âcause it happened
The elders having fallen
my friend and i had some good mindblowing theories regarding that statement but im procrastinating to write it all down 
i mean
the sky kingdom was a monarchy, an industrialized one at that
it seems the elders were the lords and the king was, well, the king
we have the papal class in vault, possibility spread among the kingdom too
the knights were likely concentrated in GW, but every lordship needs some warriors
merchants probably stayed around GW and Valley since they seem to be the trading hubs
and then the peasants are...well...the peasants
this is assuming a feudalist monarchy ofc
could very well have been a capitalist monarchy or something along those lines
I imagine plenty of the citizens who lived under the twins in Valley wouldâve or couldâve been drafted into the armies when the krill yeeted in
I also imagine a portion of Valleyâs citizens wouldâve been athletes
the krill were probably there as the kingdom was developing
we see them in the mural that one might call the debut of the kingdom, with the crowning of the king
Which mural is that?
last prophecy mural
fire trial mural
Iâll check it out again later
Oh he shiny
i wanna know what happened to him between that^ and the mural before it
So the krill was being driven away from what was probably itâs natural habitat by the rising of this kingdom 
Indicated by the direction itâs facing
if there was a timegap between the murals maybe (yeh i know the murals have timegaps i just mean that this one might have been a longer timegap - unknown time)
but yeah, iâm assuming krills have existed as long as the kingdom has, if not before that
much like humans with mammoths or other great creatures, iâm assuming ancestors in groups were the krillâs only predator
which of course makes me think what do krill taste like and what dishes were made with krill meat
honestly a lot of my theories are just based on speculation about the sky kingdomâs societyâbefore and after the fall, before and after the crowning
I went to look at the murals and I couldnât tell what was happening in most of them
I did notice two things though: the murals are not actually on the wall, theyâre projected a little bit off of it. And the fire mural that you see when entering the cave looks to depict forestry
this is just my brain talking jibberish rn so excuse any illogical chat;;, did the elders crown the prince or did megan crown him and if she did then why would a 'god entity' bother giving the flame to the prince? from a normal naive CoL into a king
i think the murals are projected off the walls to avoid the doodles to be chipped or buried in the walls (there are more murals around the realm projected like that)
iâd say the « floating murals » is basically game mechs, itâs easier to code a mural to float a bit off of the geography below, to avoid clipping n stuff
Yeah
It works in-world too since itâd preserve both the murals and the natural surface better
I still donât see how Megan participates in the story anywhere aside from existing and being big bird with light extensions
sheâs likely our « mother »
after all we are « children of the light »
sheâs the light
any theories about the candle counts at the trials or is it really just a death count? i used to thing the numbers would make sense but now they dont hence why i think its a death countsry im just running trials again and its bothering me
How many candles are there compared to the number of spirits we see being taught by the prophets in their memories?
at first it was 8 candles (like the number of disciples iirc), but then it goes to be random numbers. i didnt write it down but i think its
8 water, 7 earth, 14 air , 40 fire
when i finish fire trial ill recount them 
I can see why many people would die in the fire trials but would the prophets be willing to send so many people on such a lethal mission
they did say beware the ancient trials
and were they even supposed to 'win' these trials?
Hmm true
so I know I'm late but
A lot of human conflict with preditors has to do with invading the preditors territories or making the preditor's habitats unlivable
It's quite possible that before the kingdom, Krill were but a minor nusance who would rather hunt a manta than deal with an ancestor
Like Sharks to humans
But when ancestors industrialized the wastelands, the krill could no longer find their usual food or shelter
So they encroached on what already should have been their home
Like this earlier comment on the fire trial mural?
... yes
So it fits in with the story the prophets tell
Sorry if I seem rude, most of the time I can only identify the pieces of a story and rely on others to help connect things
ur not rude dw
thats how many people theorize too
Deforestation?
Indicating the destruction of natural habitats and lifeforms for the sake of industrialization
The water mural shows the channeling of water streams using artificial means to control too 
Yes
Ehm, i gas questions... I just went to the ||office|| and i interacted with the spirit sitting in the ball... Now he's "waiting" for me at the elder temple... Wat?
Do I need to go AGain to eden?

this is more of a #questions-and-help issue xD
but office spirits are just there for fun you relive and watch and thats it, you dont have to go to eden or anything
Tnx sorry for my potato question đ€Ł
np
Water trial 8 candles
Earth trial 7 candles
Air trial 10 candles
Fire trial 41 candles
and with that gnight 
Wait water trial has candles??
Yes, but it's safest to get them once you've become glowey
I seee
Do we get light ( as in for candle currency) from the candles in fire trial? Nvr paid much attention
ye, chat got krilled
Y'all know that theory of the vot elder twins once being one elder and then splitting to two
What if they were once conjoined twins
sounds like a cool drawing concept
:0
Iâm bakc
Might draw the concept l a t e r
It'll probably end up as an unfinished wip
Like all of my artwork

I HAVE SO MANY WIPS WHAT DO I DO
I-
Idk itâs your decision 
Tro
Come back to them months later and revamp
I know oob isn't really good when it comes to talking about lore but
When you go to vot oob and go where the twins are, the area they're in is where people land once they're finished with a race.... But the area is a bit broken, like the bridge is.... Broken. When we're there after a race tho, there's no bridge, just the floating ground that levitates upwards once we reach it.
W h a t h a p p e n e d
Idk if I explained that well at all
Hm
But like ofc that cut scene takes place in the past
Yes
Ig the building collapsed kinda
But hOw
Was there like an earquake
It's very wintery there
Ice age?
Well
Well,
Okay I have new lore to discuss
This Sky child is presumably US when we first enter the game. What I believe is that we land in Isle, and they take care of us while unconscious, then they take us to the home space for us to begin our journey
Hm wait
Along with the new teaser with the quote âit takes a villageâ, this leads me to believe that the realms discover the child first before they start their adventure
BUT
itâs confusing because the teaser is in VALLEY, not Isle
And there is a quote, âit takes a village to raise a childâ
But I think that the two are connected, isle and valley
Could the star come from the valley?
Can anyone like explain what's going in the mural story in the cave of propthecies?
For starters, the season itself has been described as presenting the origin of the kingdom of Sky
Prince be glowin
weh?
yes this is one of the theories as to who the glowy boi is- in that theory, it's presumed that the Prince himself has completed the Trials and distributed the Elements to the rest of the Elders to aid them in the construction of the Kingdom
Water to the Forest Elder, Earth to the Prairie Elder, Air to the Valley Elders, and Fire to the Wasteland Elder
Isle and Vault Elders don't have elements to themselves but they do still play important roles
Isle Elder mainly helping manage and distribute the Elements with the Prince and the Vault Elder accompanying the Prince to the mountain that would soon become what we know as Eden
a question jus popped up in my head but I've no idea how to put it in words
Take your time lmao
What I just explained was just one of many interpretations tho
Some say glowy boi is us
@queen locust thatâs.... incredibly reasonable
I was gonna ask
What if the elements for each elder or elder realm were mixed up and each element once belonged to a different elder?
Example, if water originally was vault's element and if fire was originally valleys element
But I'm pretty sure the murals in the trial area never represented anything of a mix up
Most of what I just explained came from days of discussion in lore chat lmao
What if we are reincarnations of the glowy boi?
And what if we regain a bit of glowy boiâs power when we finish a trial?
It seemed like they were handed over to their respective Elders intentionally
And the winged light are scattered bits and pieces of the glowy boiâs soul?
We see them with their elements on two separate sets of murals in the Cave after all
That's another theory I see pop up often too
Winged Lights being imprints of the Child of Light- i.e. the Prince
And that every skid is one separate reincarnation of the Prince
A shattered kind of reincarnation if you will
Soul at this point becomes synonymous with memories
What if Eden caste at the eye of the storm is where the prince watched, and is rage full and causes Eden to be so destructive?
Been wondering what wl was all day today
Lol I wondered that for a while too
Well- that's one of many interpretations I've seen pop up through my time here at least-
idk if I can recount them all :''D
I just wonder why scattered pieces of one's soul would be a bunch of kids
50 million pieces
I have another theory relating to season teaser and the new isle cutscenes
Cuz when I think of pieces, scattered pieces, I think of like, different shapes of something
Like scattered pieces of a broken vase. The pieces don't all look the same but-
We're talking about magic so
whether it's repentance or an act of martyrdom is up to interpretation with regards to the theory

Hi brick
âIt takes a villageâ is the caption, âit takes a village to raise a childâ is a quote
Did the isle spirits find us, the child, and take us to valley to be taken care of?
It really do be seeming like the next season is about that kiddo found in isle tho
Ye prob ably
I believe, since we look unlit in the cutscene, they took us to valley to help regain some light
it's been days and I still can't grasp how you guys think it was that same specific child
I don't know who it is. I have made no assumptions of what the child that they found in isle is.
i said it once, iâll say it again
the fallen child has no spirit orb
the child in the village teaser has a spirit orb
i donât think theyâre connected
All i understand is that it appears a child was found in isle
Then again I'm not much better- I likened that child to the same one that appears in Candlemaker's updated memory
ditto to what Bricky said-
The spirit orb thingy I knew nothing about oof
To be honest Iâm sorta starting to agree with Brick a little bit
additionally, i donât think the fallen child could be us either, considering itâs been a very long time between when the spirits were alive and when skykids fell
i'm not crazy thank god
Yeah
thank Megan
however, itâs likely that fallen child is our predecessor, considering we look almost identical
Maybe the fallen kid is just one sky child out of many
What is the fallen child is the prince? Was he a sky child once?
What is the fallen child is the fall of the child of light?
ehe i have a theory about that
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the fallen kidâs identity: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
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why skykids dont age: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
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light beings are hollow: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
That is a VERY GOOD REASON WITH MANY SUPPORTED FACTS, Iâm going with your idea on this one
It makes so much sense!
Yes

My friends: donât click the lore chat! You have no idea what-
Me: Phoenix77 has entered the chat
My brain: *sees all this confusing info and self-destructs *
Bricky: I got you, no more existential crisis
im glad i could help 
But yeah if you understand murals then you wouldnât lose brain cells
I think reading as much as possible here and reading each document pinned bit by bit would be very helpful
Lam
Add this to theory vaulttt @lethal stump
yeah, the canon doc can help a lot, Phoenix, like Rain said
And a huge interest with Sky and its lore also will help a ton ofc
Also, was wondering why vault elder wasnât there and then someone pointed out that they were âadvisorâ to the Eden elder/ the prince
In the murals I mean
Advisor?
Sorta like taking care of the princes needs
I sorta thought it meant Vault was something of a dream
Hm
Possibly same with isle which is what I thought
Vault likely wasn't always like that- especially at the time of Prophecy
Maybe it became like that over time, but to the Ancestors Vault was first and foremost- a source of knowledge and information
Yep, vault was an actual tower earlier which got destroyed in the explosion
Yes
You know what, i have a different thing but i don't think anyone with consider it lol
Ooh, please do share 
Next time , When you go to eden, and after hugging the shiny boi, just observe the building on the left closely while ascending, we are spiraling around it as we go up, and then we see the Broken top, where Elder statues are seen. I think that's the real vault. Also, it makes sense that we see that tower in the clouds since vault is supposed to be in a cloud mountain
In prophecy mural you can see that vault is under eden
Yes lol
So then, what is the building we see from eden social space
@broken basin yeah you can see the elder statues that you see at the top of vault about halfway through orbit. I have a photo lemme find it
They are bad quality but uhh I was riding on a manta
Also âšrocksâš

Maybe the vault we know is a fake one, because the real one fell
That's why vault is so dreamlike
There's a theory about how the shrines in vault aren't actually there 
i know this dosnt have to do with the current subjects
but i have a theory,
why do krills attack? âątheory 1. maybe they werent those dark creatures their whole life, maybe they were also creatures of light. They didnt know how to restore themselves so they attacked anything that had light, thinking it may restore their light
âątheory 2. Krill's trauma, the krills were creatures of light, when darkness fell they were so scared that the light inside them escaped their bodies. Applying to the first theory, they didnt know how to restore themselves so they attacked anything that had light
My idea is that they Attack for food or to protect their territory,,,, or they hate light Because the whale destroying eden gives me the idea light is stronger than dark so my idea is that they destroy as much light as they can :}
I imagine them to be like overly territorial sharks
Like they wouldnât have developed the habit to attack all light in sight if their territory/habitat hadnât been invaded
Yeah
@solemn kindle I had a similar theory to yours regarding krills... Kinda
Basically they attack anything they see as a threat; which would be light
Also, for some people or some animals, they can become aggressive after dealing with trauma and abuse
They could of been creatures of light, but they got stuck in a polluted area
I used to believe the krill's are made for the war ( their eyes are diamond and when they turn red they become powerful/corrupt)
Until you recognize how organic they are
Yeah
The pattern of the krill's got mw thinkin tho
The krill pattern probably just game stuff
The guardians of Journey are basically that; dark creatures made for war
The difference is that krill are animals and the guardians from Journey are made of technology and artificial resources for an example
Oh
Idk if you played Journey tho
Or know much about it
I mean I'm guessing you do tho
Since Sky and Journey were both developed by the same company
Ahahahhaha totally hahha........
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You could look up the guardians from Journey and compare them to the krills in Sky to get a better understanding of how the two contrast and stuff
Ohhhok
crabs hide in their shells when they're in a krills spotlight.... so make of that what you will 
I've never noticed that :o
Rlly?
I've been wondering if crabs are just baby krill, and some animals eat their own babies, so crabs could be krill food
And those animals are usually insects
Tbh how do you go from crab to krill
Idk man the Sky world is different from our world
I honestly think that they are different species, but I do think that that would be a fun thing to consider
Like crabs are the larval stages of krill
They look like different species but they're both similar in ways
Plus,,,,,,,, crabs would be more near krill if they where their babies. Look at the sanctuary and forest crabs
True
Crebs do seem inspired by studio ghilbi
i've- always just thought they were the dark marines to the light marines of mantas
the krill I mean
There are light crabs that don't attack us; it's the dark powder that flakes off of them that corrupts them
The nice ones don't have it
Like I know they're not literally krill but the resemblance is there
Check the crab stickers names if they have crab in them its not fan made
Yeah
So maybe crabs are originally light creatures
I doubt that
Krill and crabs both were probably light
And if that logic is true, so are krills
cran
cran
They also have the dark powder flaking off of them
They live in caves how-
Notice how both crabs and krills develop red eyes when they lock onto a target and attack
Ye
somehow I doubt both of them were light creatures once
What where krill's before then?
again- with nods to the natural ecology of Sky
Crabs and krills also pause for a second until fully attacking something
They seem related
I think they defend their territory
Then they got corrupted by darkness
Well yeah they're related in the sense that they're hostile to pretty much anyone who disturbs them in their territory
Yes
In deeper ways they used as guards in the war but I doubt that
It's not like Sky can't have predators
Cores, I believe every living thing has them except for ancestors
Possibly krills were trained for war but not made for it, which might be able to support the idea that they are constantly aggressive and hostile towards what they perceive as threats
Shot in the dark, imagine if the crabs came from darkstones?
Would work with the whole blending light creatures witj stone to make power diamonds thing
Something corrupts badabing badaboom new creature
Wait-
Krills don't like light and neither do crabs it seems. Wherever a krill looks, there's a blue spotlight. The crabs probably hide themselves because they don't like the light coming from the krill.
Don't Ancestors technically have cores- those spheres that we burn
Spirit orbs
thats darkness
Wait, the king statutes/turrets in battlefield have blue eyes Cause they aren't doing anything. But When we saw in the Prophecy mural, they were red, and the war was going on Most probably
Don't krills do the same thing? Blue When nothing and red When attacking?
Imma put my theory really quickly about the animals
When there was a balance between light and darkness, crabs and krill were light creatures. Then, darkness started to overtake light, and some of the light animals got corrupted. (Maybe this happened during the eden explosion) Most of the light animals died instantly after being corrupted. But not the krill or the crabs, creatures who could survive harsh conditions
I didn't mean to hit send, but that's about it
But if there was a balance between the two, why would all of the animals be light?
that's totally meaning to hit send-
Good question, idk lol
Doesn't seem like much of a balance at all to me if every member of your animal kingdom is light
Yeah
True
Couldn't it be that krill and crab exist naturally as natural predators to light creatures?
Possibly
Because krill- we know definitely existed since Prophecy
Unfortunately, some things are born to be natural predators
Or develop into natural predators
I honestly have no idea
Ig if there was a balance between light and dark creatures, maybe they once lived among each other with no conflict
But then again the dark creatures might just be natural predators
i'm sticking with dark creatures always having been light creatures
Maybe there were much less before the explosion, so they didn't cause as much of a problem
however machine-like they may be
i think its dependent on the environment, depending on the circumstances of the area different animals will spawn. like crabs naturally spawn in damp areas and mantas naturally spawn in light areas
Good point
but that doesnt hold up well considering wasteland manta
The dark creatures usually live amongst abandoned and polluted environments
They seem polluted themselves
I mean- it's not like it's impossible for some creatures to wander off
Yeah
As far as we can see there's always just been that one manta in that one temple
That one manta is just there to demonstrate what the krill does lol
You guys honestly bring up good points to dispute mine, and that's one of the reasons I love this chat; you don't just get told "you're wrong". You actually get points that you can reflect upon
Yeah it's always nice when people give civil reasons for what they think instead of just "oh you're wrong I'm right" kinda thing
It wouldn't be an intellectual discussion if we just shot things down just because we didn't agree would it?
^^
Yeah
at that point it stops being theorizing and just debating aha
Can I screenshot this and send it to a theory chat for a certain series that is often wonky and toxic?
Sure
Thanks
Go nuts lmao- we promote critical thinking and big braining around these parts XD
and high-key krill belly-rubbing
but that goes for all chats I think-
Also, when a chat is toxic and uncivil, it makes people more defensive and hostile. Some people get effected more than others. It can become very mentally unhealthy for a channel or server to be in that state, so I'm glad this chat is civil and open minded. c:
:)
What are we talking about-
I much agree. This is slightly off topic but Iâll be sending the screenshot to some active people in an anime server with toxic âtheoristsâ
And the possible balances of light and dark animals
then we kinda veered off into civil discussion
Okay well
You ever get that feeling when you draw something and then die inside?
Yeah Iâm feeling that rn
That's me all the time
Quick question, do you guys think that the dark worms are natural dark animals, or are they just made as an extra challenge in the fire trial?
Just a challenge in fire trial. Also, they're probably not even real, just a sky kid's hallucination.
That would make sense
That makes sense
Agreed- merely something from the Fire trial
i think its odd that we havent seen anything of the dark worms anywhere else so i think its a trail exclusive
considering we don't get much evidence proving its existence outside of it
Bc in most games imaginary things are often represented by squiggles
Ye
Anyway
The pain
And there's also two artificial seeming elements in the game; knowledge and illusion
The illusion symbol looks like this: 
You even see this symbol in the worm's eyes
Yeah, because when the fire trial first came out, people said that they might be 'natural' dark creatures. If so, it doesn't make any sense why we would've seen them more
So we were talking about crabs, krill, balance, yeah?
What should we discuss now
YOOO
hmmmm

that is a connection i never would have made ever
I didn't even notice that ^^
Bruh Iâve been thinking of animations for sky but my hands and my self esteem are just like no
If they were natural creatures then theyâd most likely only shwl up in areas of complete darkness but there arenât any of those
That same symbol has been likened to be memories too- so it might be something that manifests into something that the ones taking the trial would fear
Mood
Yeah, lots of psychology when it comes to these dark worms
And I love psychology
Waaahhhhh
Oh yeah!
What they got updated?
thank god for the new tablets- I can send pics if you guys need it
YESS
Show me I havenât seen
The update was like two days ago o:
I like the come here one
you have to look
show me show me
wahhhhh i dont have vids
I think that maybe the light that comes down was the first skid or something
its best to go look for yourself tho
WOAH
Thanks dude!
oh you have pics 
ITS A CHILD
WHY IS THAT THE FIRST THING I NOTICED
I want the hair
Gimme that weave
Wig snatched
âOh hey look itâs a corpse come look at itâ
Thanks for getting the pics ^^
I've died inside waiting for two weeks since I was first spoiled
Serveral people are typing...
these are all from live don't worry
the ushering stargazer directly ties into the prophecy mural and it makes my heart go đđđđđ
beware the ||

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WAIT
?
I for some reason am immune to spoilers
The candlemaker sent his wife and kid off but I think he stayed behind
lUCKY YOU AHHHHH
Zjgzjgsjgsig
Otherwise his body wouldnât be there
@pastel brook prophecy
if only @hushed steeple had listened...
â I gotta stay to get the milk you go on â
"take all of my worldly possessions and scatter them randomly across the lands"
Cjjzgjgszjg
â including the milk â
at least we finally got an answer for who made all those freaking candles
Yeah
Lul
Thank you my dude finally
now i know who to rob đ
I bet the ascended candles taste like apple cinnamon
Stop it or Iâll take the milk
They do look like that though
Why do skids have red candles btw
mom said it's my turn to get the milk
What do red candles symbolize
The universe according to the end credits
Theyâre probably not ceremonial or smthn
I'm kidding-
The red are used more as a light source and decoration
What are crabs
Maybe a circulatory system
Because when skids light their red candles, it's a flame from their heart
Hearts are red
Humans associate the circulatory system with red
The rocks be hittin a jig
i was just saying because you offer your red candle to other people and that reveals who you truly are and stuff, also you literally pull the red candle out of that diamond in ya stomach
So the red candles would taste like iron then 
Also
I don't think skids bleed
What is the little oval light on your chest supposed to represent
Heart
It represents the candle
That's why I kinda mentioned the circulatory system
yummy
skid rips their chest open to take the candle out of their chest cavity, they then light you up, and offer for your friendship..
I'll see you guys around ^^
ooh, maybe the red candle is simply the light reserve you have left. because once you lose your light your candle also goes out along with all ur cosmetics
Bye wave
see u wavee
flesh pockets
Except for instruments
What else is the color red associated with?
Love, danger, heart, passion, etc
Luck
Okay uh
i had a theory that all cosmetics were just simply made up of pure light which is why they poof when we run out of flame
Eastern asian royalty
What about Eden as a whole
I feel like luck is associated more with green
Whatâs it like for those kids who are dead up there?
Fortune then, Iâm thinking chinese sort of belief
However, everyone's idea of color psychology is different
What do they see?
Red in the game so far's been related to pretty terrible stuff- plus that one red light that summons murals
Yeah
"Found in a place where darkness thrives" or smthn along those lines
Which is strange as to why skids have red candles lul
So red can be found in the dark
why do skids keep their eyes closed
Theyâre used abundantly in fire trial too
Like whatâs the point
arent those candles white?
But then when skids collect wax and befriend others, their candles are white, plus thicker in size
Well the friendship candle is bigger but the wax candles we collect are smaller
Skids having red candles can mean something from the other way around- like a blinding light in the darkness sort of thing
But why are they w h i t e



