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/quality fanfiction fuel ngl
angst fuel to the nth degree
both the 'prosthetic arms' are in the middle (kakashi left arm, dora right)
@tender dune /"dora"
angst fuel to the nth degree
@lethal stump /that's exactly what im thinking about, injuries man
What of one whole side of their body is prosthetic, that's why no eye? And prosthetic limbs on the same side
That makes me think of they were divided into two
should i post 6 images of each shrine separately or should i try to make a collage? (dont wanna clog up a lot...)
another thing to note: all the shrines have « arms » or « armrests » and the way the twins’ are positioned means their inner armrest is not there
What of one whole side of their body is prosthetic, that's why no eye? And prosthetic limbs on the same side
That makes me think of they were divided into two
same
try a collage
I suppose they could be fancy rings like on the statue, but it's fun to think of the twins as needing prosthetics. Ironically, this likely fueled Teth's drive to make technology in the beginning, as the twins likely appreciate the ability to do stuff
/more fanfiction fuel
The shrines themselves, at home only isle has diamond head
/here teth and the twins also has no diamond
mhm

but praire, gw, vault have diamond
PPFFFTTT
/okay maybe they where slit the moment they exist
but their legs aren’t prosthetic from what we can see
Yeah but pants
They were as far as I remember when we were discussing this earlier
/amazing drawing tho lone wolf
Lol
Their legs do look different from eachother and are also in pants
I shall oob my way there rn
the pics i took dont show the legs, they show the arms and masks
ye
you can see their legs mostly in this pic
/you Ginko mind going to the behind as well?
only eye side difference
something interesting is that all the elders except the twins have pupils
and u see kakashi has what looks like a scratch on his eyemask (image beforelast)
Maybe their eyes are just smaller because they didn't have anyone imprisoned with them to connect with so they have less light left?
only eye side difference
arm too
something interesting is that all the elders except the twins have pupils
@lethal stump /wait really??
but null, theyre the only ones who had company (each other)
/wait really??
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
look at hand
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. They (twins) had company, which gave them someone to connect with (eachother) which helped them not run low on light
/guys may i ask how to zoom again? for laptop?
open original
The other elders were alone in their prison and ran out of light faster
ah, i thought the « they » in your original message was the twins, not the other elders
E
almost there
Maybe twins are rebels and they lost their diamond
The other elders were alone in their prison and ran out of light faster
@short owl /yo what if punishment for going toghether was to lose half of your body
What if the twins are not the true elder of valley and are just guardians of the true one. Because they have no diamond
eh
I think the valley elders were twins at birth
that's why they essentially have two bodies but only one of every "limb"
could be they're "conjoined" twins?
You're talking mad stuff for someone in paddle distance 👁️ 👄 👁️
dont take that seriously, i love y'all and will never hurt you
They probably were less upset about being split as soon as they could start functioning independently thanks to Teth's prosthetics
/again fanfiction fuel
Their legs look fine though 
hot legs
Again. Pants.
yeah i got it xD
reika, you good.
Still love you anyway
I dont see any sign of prosthetics other than the arm.
same goober
probably because they WEAR PANTS AND BOOTS
they're holding the sticks with their prosthetic arms (when they're in midair)
Probably their dominant arms.
yep, they were conjoined twins
Flying leg
ooh
what if they wear those weird pant shoes like forest elder and then have their onesies over it
so like the
pants
but
Lamed and Ayin don’t have pants
the constellation ones
they have one of those dresses
pants
oh the vault shorts?
Vault shorts + cargo boots = valley pants
doesnt look like sanc pants (doesnt have a knee puff), looks more like praire-vault pants
/sky fashion man
em legs
/dem legggggggs
toned 😳
😂
Lmao It's become 1 with their legs😂
When can we have those legs
Imma leave you with this question:
anyone theorized why vault elder has a scratch on her face?
ill read those later, ttyl
Here's the pic
Is megabird the giant manta?
No
I’ve been theorizing lore about this game for a while, and I kinda just decided to come in here to see what you guys were thinking about the new teaser for the prophecy thing
Megabird is like a king but I swear, it's not a bird
It looks like they’re looking at Eden so I’m hoping for more Eden/downfall lore
Has it ever appeared in game?
Imma leave you with this question:
anyone theorized why vault elder has a scratch on her face?
@tender dune I think they were possibly closest to the explosion in Eden which left them with a cracked mask
It's a bird-ish king
heheh
I’ve been theorizing lore about this game for a while, and I kinda just decided to come in here to see what you guys were thinking about the new teaser for the prophecy thing
@zenith bison it definitely looks like Eden, I wonder why it is blue instead of gold?
But then again it also replicates the entrance to prairie from the end of isle with the very narrow opening
Is the reason a huge heap of the original and more complex lore playable evident from the early concept arts are device capacity limitation and one of the core philosophies of TGC to keep Sky easy to play for all ages?
Hmm... Now that you mention it... There are a number of split rocks. Valley between the mountain, prarie has two mountain(?)s with vertical cracks like that....
Probably just coincidence...
Exucale your sentence is too advanced for me to understand
@tender dune I think they were possibly closest to the explosion in Eden which left them with a cracked mask
@mossy bay wouldn't the explosion kill them though?like i think thats why "eden has no elder anymore"
@abstract crypt I think the devs have mentioned quite a few times that they wanted the game to feel quite vague in Terms of allowing players to come up with their own theories on lore
This is what I understand..
(The original lore is being limited to best suit our device limitations and suitable to be played by all ages)
Aww, I really think the old lore was super cool
Hi guys, I recently joined this server and I have to say I'm pretty impressed with the work done to uncover the lore ( after reading the pins)
@mossy bay wouldn't the explosion kill them though?
like i think thats why "eden has no elder anymore"
@tender dune correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t all the spirits and elders theoretically dead? I don’t believe the eden elder is dead but trapped
Wait why are we talking about pants ówò not complaining
Also, it hammers the themes of the game better and makes you more emotional, honestly
ok
Bluprint... Yeah it mostly us overthinking
Is the reason a huge heap of the original and more complex lore playable evident from the early concept arts are device capacity limitation and one of the core philosophies of TGC to keep Sky easy to play for all ages?
@abstract crypt I was going through the sky art links and I thought the same thing
How about the storyline dynamics for each realm? (Ex. There is a maze in the end of forest and the players must find the true exit as the elder deceived them)
@lethal tapir we were talking if the twins had different legs since they have one eye each and different arms
Honestly, I prefer the current Elder
That’s one of the things I prefer in the current lore
Sky is more like a social game than a story driven game..
Yeah
Hence why lore is little
what do these things mean? there's another in forest I've just been wondering about them
Those are clock for boat
The ones in forest was for the rainbow time. That one in praire has to do with a boat u can ride (but its no longer there)
oh
I found out that there is pathway to the hidden forest.. meaning that probably people don't actually fly.. and beyond the cloud must be more hidden infrastructure
Because thinking about this, the ones who fly are us. The ancestors dont
I just realized that if Sky retained all of its lore then it would take even more time to candle run everyday, as it will have more cutscenes and transitions to fit the storyline...
Ooh, could that be where the new season is???? Though this topic is more of #seasons-events-chat thing
But we have seen boat dock at the start of the forest
There are docks for cargo probably, but also there would be a walking path
Like how irl we have roads and we have (crosswalk?pavement?i forgot the name)
Indeed, they still needed ways to get prospectors and lumberjacks on foot into forest to do their work on the ground
People road
Sidewalk lol
The cloud are surprisingly violent.. meaning that maybe the cloud need to be (carved out) by something so people can use boat without getting flipped
Because thinking about this, the ones who fly are us. The ancestors dont
@tender dune one of the things I have been trying to figure out; why don't we see any spirit use their capes? Also it's shown that you can get through the realms without a cape ( capeless runs on yt) so whats the purpose of our flight?
Skykids are able to fly because we’ve been granted that ability by either the megabird or the child of light
You can fly like a bird
That’s what the wings we get in the intro are
And crash to a wall like a bird
I think their capes arent for flying like us. I think for them its like shawls
I think their capes arent for flying like us. I think for them its like shawls
@tender dune yeah I thought that
Ultimately it’s to shepherd the light through the storm
To “bring our lost stars home”
Yep
Oh yeah you can't go into orbit without wings
We have a mission .. we are sent by someone
So you would need them to fly
Also flying is cool
Makes sense, we can't reach orbit if we don't have capes, and we need the cape's power to endure the storm from saving statues
Yeah
But the cape need one big flap to push our skykid flying....
Hmm how strong is that
How heavy is our sky kid?
I think we're light weight 
Because even if you try to fall straight down you'll slowly float/descend
But SkyKids are solid as a rock though, that sound when they jump on ice
Yeah I thought our bodies are made of wax
I think we're hollow clay, since we put the wl inside us
Notice when we die.. it the sound of a breaking claypot
Yep, a lot of the sound effects for skykids walking on surfaces is clay iirc
It not glass... Trust me I broken my mom claypot
Tbh I often imagine how strong SkyKids are, primarily they can endure any amount of G force from any flight pattern, sudden impact, multiple dark dragon attacks and enduring a literal giant rock storm and still walking through the storm.
And can carry 7 other skykids
Yes.. skykid has high endurance.. I'm not sure about the g force tho
Yeah for lightweight kids, they're pretty strong
You can dive down a thousand meters and pull up to reach the top of citadel without hassle 
Yep
We are not fast
Hence why maneuver ability is good
Maybe it's because our terminal velocity is too low to consider G force an issue
What are we talking about?
Physics i guess
Skids can even pull a full stop to drop down when speed flying (when u switch fly mode)
That place has some weird gravity ( citadel/orrery)
I have a hunch that this might be a situation of game mechanics 
Do you guys know Soviet aircraft? They really maneuverable.. but they are slow and lost alot of energy.
I think that is also why skykid has good maneuverablity
Not really, each area on every map has its own wind direction and strength, Citadel has one of the most strongest upward wing strength you can reach the top of the map in a single cape flap
cough cough eden cough cough
I don't know much about airplanes but it makes sense that if it's not too fast you can fly it easily like SkyKids
Guys imagine if king can fly
Is he wearing a cape?
Yesnt
Kinda..
If he flies his shadow can cover the whole map 
Guys imagine if king can fly
@mild lark that would be quite scary
king is a wannabe megan
Megan is just jealous so then she just woooooosh the whole world
Btw I'm still considering my crackpot theory that eden diamond is to shoot megabird true
Mine has always been that the diamond was always there to begin with (that it wasn't created)
The eden beam gives me a lot of trouble, when you see it from other realms it like a death Star lazer but after u hug the shiny boi it's barely visible
Lol yeah
Unless the beam is made up of the creatures which go into orbit with us?
Still they are quite tiny how would u see them from afar
Another crackpot theory is that the beam supposed to suck megabird's light
This isn't mine
What if Megan decided to just
Every one see the news place for next season
m o v e
I think the diamond is Megan's embers as she/all light creatures rebirth - body break down (i highly believe in the old concepts tbh thats why)
Megabird is just a huge cluster of light creatures acting as one big creature imo
Lemme post the concept im talking about brb
Megabird is just a huge cluster of light creatures acting as one big creature imo
@mild lark true
oooo
Only question is how big it is lol
I have a theory that the krill were built to defend wasteland from growing darkness, but once everyone else died there was no one to shut them down and they were corrupted by it and attack light things now
b I g
Woah
The new Season will be held in Isle Of Dawn 🥰 so keep your eyes on the cave while flying in the air of Isle
@pallid blaze #seasons-events-chat
The new Season will be held in Isle Of Dawn 🥰 so keep your eyes on the cave while flying in the air of Isle
@pallid blaze how do you know?
ISLE SEASON?!?!
Wuup sorry
What new season 
If this information comes from hacked content you better erase
Before u get thanos snapped

Jk hee hee it is just my guess xD
Isle can really use some expannsion... there's a few murals but... the actual life of isle is kinda.. missing
Oki
Before another cooldown happens here
Sometimes it's like "well that's true, but WHAT IF IT'S NOT"
Isle or Eden both could use more lore, if absolutely cry if there was a new area added to Eden that was less chaotic that had the spirits and told the lore of the fall
Of course isle is absolutely gorgeous and I’d love a new area or expansion there so that there was more to do when visited
vsauce instensifies
My own personal theory is that these embers usually fall in eden mountain. But some of the embers fell around (like in isle - the cave doodles show stars falling and them using them as power + forgotten ark doodles). Which started the whole problem of creating artificial stars (the power diamonds)
The art shows the embers are the decomposed parts of aged light creatures right?
Light creature has mass?
Their souls would be the ones rebirthed (just like our skids)
But I feel the game doesn't show that, it shows creatures coming from clouds and the ocean
Like in the Sanctuary cutscenes
Wait a minute.. the island is submerged?
I dunno if its submerged with water or clouds ^
So maybe there's a missing step in the cycle
There are some steps missing and sadly i don't think we'll see them die at old age in front of us
We see them in orbit flying though
Are u talking about the sanc’s final?
I don't think we should take our skykid as an example..
Skykid isn't originally there to live.. but to collect star
They're talking about how in the cutscenes the mantas show up from the ocean / sky
Are u talking about the sanc’s final?
@willow shoal no the ones before
I think i read about that in the pins why they'd show up like that
I think canon doc...

Yeah there is definitely something in the pins about that
I mean in sanctuary we can manta like creature coming from the sea
“The creatures in Sky are connected to the light and born from the light (...) that’s their origin and where they come from (...) so you’ll actually see creatures emerging from the clouds and manifesting as the light sort of comes together. You can also think of it as almost like atoms or molecules, like as the light comes together new life is being born”

OR IS IT (Vsauce instensifies)
“The creatures in Sky are connected to the light and born from the light (...) that’s their origin and where they come from (...) so you’ll actually see creatures emerging from the clouds and manifesting as the light sort of comes together. You can also think of it as almost like atoms or molecules, like as the light comes together new life is being born”
@delicate coral Yes that's it
Yep
So the question is how do light creatures get from the rebirth step in orbit to the manifestation step in the clouds
Guys is there thunder or lightning in the game?
yea
You can see it from far
Maybe when light creatures go through orbit, since they are pure light instead of hybrids like us, they kind of just atomise and disperse into energy, which is then re-manifested into new light creatures in nests
Hmm .. weird because there a little to no cloud in eden
I had a great lightning’s screenshot

Whales are creatures of light? I mean, when you touch them they don't give you energy like mants, birds or butterflies, but they don't take away energy like krills or crabs either.
It's also that whales don't go into space like the other creatures.
Yeah the whale thing is where it falls apart, since they’re neutral creatures, but then again we never really see them in orbit or manifesting
And whales do go into space, but they don’t appear in orbit
There is clouds above Eden. It’s a storm after all. When you fly up to Orbit and look down, you’ll see a swirl of clouds (like a cyclone/hurricane/typhoon)
More pics for austin
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/742260455266844704
@tender dune thanks, I've seen it already
Whales do take energy?
Hm?
No, they don’t give or take light
Well, we lose some light when we fly through one
Oh yeah but that’s just bc of the impact I think
They’re clearly not dark creatures like krill
I think all of sky world is above the widest ocean in the earth, megan sends all souls to the ocean, then they grow up and fly back to the sky
that’s why they’re all amphibious
I think the world is in different layers of a huge cloud (except gw) 
like a huge laputa tbh
Quite makes sense
That's why It's Called Sky v:
Because everything is floating
Probably but why would Megan send something back to earth if coming to earth is bad? ( As the opening cutscene tells us)
Yes indeed, that layers thing is correct
We dunno if megan sent us or not
That’s the view of the world during ascent
Even during the opening scene, the elders fall on a cloud
Ferryman?
I think johnny means isle elder
megan sends souls to world, and ferryman guides them to where they should be
From what we see in the cutscene it looks like he sheperds us to eden
yep
Maybe there wasnt a cycle of incarnation before the spirit n elders came down: the elders came down from the stars which caused the corruption of light by darkness and the land fell to ruin, so Megan starts a cycle by which light creatures are made to help sky kids ascend the fallen spirits?
Sorry for text wall
in the isle cutscene, the elder points the direction of the eden/the birds flying
We see the birds everywhere, like as if he's still guiding us
They're seen even in eden
Going thru a pipe
but one interesting thing is before wasteland, we just follow the birds, and in wasteland they vanish until the existence of graveyard
Yeah
then they become ♦️
And they're circling just like entrance before valley region
not the shape of a normal/proper bird
They r not ther in vault either
yes
isle: birds - direction
prairie: butterfly - verticals/height
forest: manta - guide
but they are in eden
eden second area has them moving into a pipe
(hello everyone)
i think birds are just ferryman’s guide
Megabird, megan is a nickname for it
They fly through cloud tunnels? Maybe you can reach eden from the vortex before wl
megabird is
henloo
wait am i allowed to send picture here
or should it go in eden spoilers or something
Here i guess?
I think in cannont doc is stated that both birds and mantas are made out of light
anything about lore is welcomed here
megabird/megan
a few days ago i saw someone saying that the portal that's the exit of orbit is megan's eye
oooo ic ic
(theory)
thanksies
👁???
I said that before but probs no one remembers😂
Nah i never mentioned it again its been months hahah
Months?..
Dunno i lose track of time
ohhh haha
time in lore chat is different than in the rest of the world
Anyways, the rebirth gate and the light lines near it looks like an eye (ill find pics rn brb)
the eyes are the gate to one's soul
i wanna become a lore moff muahahahah
im new and am very interested in these lol
I want to know more about the origins of each realm
Tao produced one, one produced two, two produced three, three produced all things
I want to know more about the origins of each realm
@potent portal me too
There is a lot in the pins and the tomcepts too but not everything was taken as canon/official (i think
)
There is a lot of stuff kept hidden because they want us to have fun theorizing about it (which is fun ngl)
yep
yep
wew
gonna make my way through the 19 page fanlore
brain explodes
haha
brain explodes
Sounds:Hjonk
i hope next season can bring us more details, just like the ark mural in 
Yeee
Things in office aren't canon, they just put him as replacement for the krill that was there (from what i heard)
woa
not a very safe office hahaha
Yeah xD
i think the texts in game are not clear at all
for example, Beyond the barren wastes, the Vault of Knowledge awaits
Explain more pls
Us?
and this: This Spirit prays for Purple Light. It is said they hoard ancient secrets.
Thinking about the whole stages of life thing I think that that sentence (Beyond the barren wastes...etc.) might as well also be a metaphor for wisdom gained through the struggles of life
Purple light is found in archives, which makes sense
and however hopeless things may seem you get something out of it
We dont know, vault and archives has some deep secrets
so probably a lot of things
Memories
As you pass through the vault it is as if all your life is flashing before your eyes
also i just remembered watching a manta get eaten by a krill today so there's probably some form of predator prey thing between the creatures
Maybe thats why lamed has a scar on her?
to show that she has some dark secrests?
maybeee
Oh lexi i remember someone here trying to draw the predator-prey lines. Forgot their name
I mean suffering and experiments come with knowledge. Being a vault of knowledge im pretty sure not everything was all yay rainbows
What is grammar
haha
skykids’ purpose is to spread flame and wake up all sleeping souls/save the souls, send them to orbit
right?
Seems to be the case
Yeah
this?
Yeah this!
huhu
omg, the light creatures are so yummy for dark souls
lmaooooo

so where are the whurtles?
what ar ewhurtles
The dead bones in graveyard
i don’t think the huge creature in eden is whale
We call them whurtles - whale/turtle
Because they have the skulls of turtle
@/bluespirit#8811 has some beautiful drawings of how they might have looked like
Yea xD
It is indeed a sea turtle skull tho
i posted some stuff about that too. Can't link cuz im on phone
your goal is to bring that light to where it is needed the most.
—Jenova Chen, in Apple Sep. 2017 Keynote Event
that light means the flame?
i wish the fan lore document was more organised D:
the disagreements are nice but it makes it confusing
Honestly, I agree
maybe someone should make a document that lists the lore most agreed upon by everyone overall when it comes to realms elders spirits etc
I wanted to add stuff in there but it was kinda confusing
I didnt want to accidently mess it up even more
haha
ummm ok so i'm veerrryy new to sky lore and i've only been playing for like a month but i propose that we make a document/spreasheet of most popular lore theories
instead of having a document that includes anyone's input and suggestions bc the disagreements get confusing
it also makes it a lot easier for new lore moffs (like me) to be able to catch up with the things everyone says
well, we have the lore moth document to get newcomers set up
and speaking of which
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
(original document and message by @ / Bricky Brickson)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
yeah i know anad don't get me wrong all the documents are really helpful but it might be nice to create one that kind of summarises all the important parts
yeah, the above document sort of does
Hello
hello 
What are you guys talking about
nothing really, just an introduction
Oh okay
yeah, the above document sort of does
@normal berry guess so
Hi guys im just intrigue with the teaser wordings im not that good in english but can u verify if same meaning if “ Beware the Prophecy” to “ Beware of the Prophecy” Is it same on its trying to imply? When someone will tell me beware of the prophecy meaning i need to be careful believing in the prophecy coz something negative on it, if someone tells me “beware the prophecy” i think its more positive to think idk sorry for ny english 🤭✌🏻
It means the same thing grammatically
the pat emoji reminds me of 
BONK
To quote ktjn on the same topic, “‘of’ was an unnecessary preposition in this case”
I think "Beware the Prophecy" may have some sort of negative, or neutral connotation
Can you state the whole quote?
That’s basically the whole quote, somebody asked if it was a typo and he said
not a typo. "of" was an unnecessary preposition in this case.
"Beware" has a sense of urgency, or maybe i read the question wrong
Beware the dog... maybe hungry, i dnt know but can be neutral and Beware of the dog, this much makes sense 🤣🤭 i got to run 🤣
It can resemble multiple stuff
Either way it's designed to intrigue everyone of what's coming which is unknown
So the prophecy might be a false prophecy, false warning that create chaos and negativity might be
I suppose it is more negative then, usually when you need to "beware" of something it implies a sense of caution. the literal definition of beware is "be cautious and alert to the dangers of."
maybe it'll give us an insight to the vault elder's scar thing

He/she looks sad when he/she giving me this stuff
It is theorized that the vault elder got their scar/mask break while attempting sealing away eden
hmmmmm
He/she looks sad when he/she giving me this stuff
I think the elders are sort of regretful of what happened to the kingdom
He/she weak to stand i cant remember if he/shes standing
Imagine trying to steal Eden
Steal?
war
I beilive they stand along with the rest of the elders at the end of the cutscene
not steal i meant seal 
lol
I'll be watching
That would be fun too watch, stealing Eden
His/her facial expression quite mysterious like he/shes hiding somthing that only he/her knows
ok?
Yes 0k
Nom
difficult to see facial expression on elders and skykids

His/her facial expression quite mysterious like he/shes hiding somthing that only he/her knows
you are probably correct, I think it is a popular theory that the elders are hiding something from us
I think they just don't want us to make their mistakes?
Ok guys thanks for clarifying beware the and beware of, i must be beware of the upcoming adv pass spending 😬🤭
yeah probably
oh yeah what do u guys think of forest elder's initial attitude in the cutscene
like they kinda grabbed the light
the forest elder is just.. forest elder
Tbh i think it is meant to be part of their personality, sort of cold
The other elder stance and pose ok for me but only this vault elder like shes guilty or regretful and liek shes accountable to something bad happens
yeah maybe'
I think she, like most of "creating" ppl, don't see us as something special, like all that matters to her is the light
interesting..
I mean, the elders probably unintentionally played a part in destroying the kingdom when they made the eden diamond
assuming they did make the eden diamond, which is likely
This also seems sad and ashmed he/she is big but cant protect the kingdom
Big boi
also, another thing I want to throw in bout the new season I have a feeling that it will have something to do with the prince/king/ Eden Elder
oooh
I think their stances kind of go along a bit with the stages of life they represent as well. Forest elder's personality is kind of "bratty" for lack of a better term, the way they kind of aggressively grab the light is reminiscent of teenage moodiness. Then you have the Valley elders with all of their energy representing like adults in their prime and still youthful. Wasteland elder then falls down at first out of exhaustion, representing the midlife crisis or the stage of your life when you're getting older and running out of energy. And finally Vault elder is tired and resigned, like an elderly person who knows that their life is coming to an end soon.
oooh x2
May I hop into the convo?
I was reaching the intro of the game to try to understand what "the prophecy" is and this is what I noticed
When the title says "if only they listened" the kingdom falls...
If only they listened..... To whom?
Oooh x3
hahaha
So I’ve been wondering for a while are the elders alive or not I thought you guys might know??
if only they listened to the crebs
that is the biggest mystery, and we may find more clues in this upcoming season
So I’ve been wondering for a while are the elders alive or not I thought you guys might know??
@humble crest
they exist outside time and space
some people say isle elder
they could be referring to megabird
@normal berry
If only they listened .. to king?
What if that happened
plot twist 😀
that would be the biggest plot twist of the century
Well the king is in the eden right? And the "fall" of the kingdom starts right in eden
Wait
I just realised
Hm?
the king is more than likely the eden elder
WE ARE THE VIRUS
VArus™
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Rewatch the intro, the fall of the kingdom begins when eden connects with the sky above it
Lemme fetch the screenshot
Brb
yes, eden was the start of the storm
the source of the storm is the giant power diamond in the final area of eden
Imagine connecting all of the spirits together and realise your a virus
Eden formed a small typhoon
Small?
I think their stances kind of go along a bit with the stages of life they represent as well. Forest elder's personality is kind of "bratty" for lack of a better term, the way they kind of aggressively grab the light is reminiscent of teenage moodiness. Then you have the Valley elders with all of their energy representing like adults in their prime and still youthful. Wasteland elder then falls down at first out of exhaustion, representing the midlife crisis or the stage of your life when you're getting older and running out of energy. And finally Vault elder is tired and resigned, like an elderly person who knows that their life is coming to an end soon.
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Someone should put this in the doc, this is incredible!
Or hurricane
So
Have you every tired looking from the distance 
Does that mean the Eden king tried to harness the light with that diamond or eye of the storm but somehow turned it corrupt making it plunge into darkness ¯_(ツ)_/¯
The fall begins when eden connects with the clouds above
orbit
Concept art but it give you a good picture
Also the icon reminds me the icon in orbit
Does it?
Wait no i may have misread
what secret part ??
I think it's not corruption, it's more like diamond was able to consume energy, but then were full and everything turned in storm
One theory suggests that megabird rain hell on sky kingdom
my theory is that the elders made the eden diamond and it was used to utilize orbit's endless light. however, one does not simply make the literal heavens their personal battery. so consequentially the diamond became overwhelmed by such power and blew up, unleashing an uncontrollable force of chaos into the kingdom
Makes sense
Interesting..
What all did the intro scene say
its in the pins 
Oh okay thanks haha
gUys IthInk kIng Is EvIl



That's pretty obvious 
That's the joke
o b j e c t i o n
This is interesting
Define evil
Evil is bad
When the villian always do good things instead of bad things
Bad people doing bad thing
here is my two cents, the king was not inherently evil, but egotistical and overly ambitious. He wanted the best for his kingdom, but his hubris prevented him from seeing the consequences of those actions until it was too late
I think king is more like Samuel Hayden in doom
Honestly we will never fulfill our mission tho...
There are 87 winged light aka stars throughout the kingdom, and only 63 statues in eden. That means we can never bring all of the light back to the orbit
In christianity theres 7 spirits of god sent to earth 🤔 but total theres 24 elders sitting besides god throne,
I think king is more like Samuel Hayden in doom
@mild lark "you can't just make a giant diamond!"
we probably won't
Sorry if off topic im just thinking might connect
oh no, you are quite right actualy
Interesting
seven realms, seven total light wedges (without wing buffs)
sad
How did the stars end up turning into stone in the first place?
the magic of eden 
Coz for me Tgc just not come up with game stories they inspired it on some existing literature so if u know the main source ull crack the code
Magic
Idk, i guess the power of the diamond shaked the light off from children and since eden is above everything, they felt into realms
Oooh, interesting, the spirits seems to correlate with the seven spirits of God
But here comes a dilema
imo darkness tends to turn things to stone/ stone like substance by nature
Uh huh
Well, 2-6 does
If there are 63 statues, where are the rest winged lights from
Hmm that kinda does make sense i guess
notice how the statues before the hallway crumble and cannot be saved
something tells me we were too late to save them all
Yep
And that's why eden can't be saved anymore
eden elder?
Oof........
yuh
That's why we'll never see the king
Moral of the story
We're the virus
We're too late

And we're stuck in a loop of death
There's still the King=Us theory.....
Oreo IS the king
No Oreo is Megan
👑

The eye of eden what ever it is if its the diamond or artifact but i think its not just a realm or place, its symbolize the forbidden fruit the source of all evilness

Ooh, maybe
Hmm
If you're referring to the "apple" i would respectfully disagree since the "apple" resemblance in bible is something else 😅😅😅
👁️ 👄 👁️
Well... The "apple" actually came from the Tree of Knowledge....
Then there's the Vault of Knowledge....
Hmmmmm....

Which has a tree btw, a crystal bonsai that grows into a magnificent big three
Yeah
there is some "forbidden fruit" symbolism in the vault of knowledge murals
Tell me more
Tgc used a literature that based on religion, believing on spirits and higher being, victory and fall, like the war in heaven, when angel of light Lucifer failed to grasp the throne of God, they were exiled and all other angels with him fall, some want to repent and go back to heaven, like in the movie Noah’s ark, these fallen angels were like giants, asking for repentance, before they live with humans but now they live in middle earth
in the mural of the king, it looks like he is taking a "bite" out of a circular shaped item
There were two trees in the bible. One is the Tree of Life, the other is the Tree of Knowledge, the tree that the "forbidden fruit" was taken from
IS LUCIFER THE KING?????

@thorn portal I NEED ANSWERS
Then if there's the King=Us theory....
Well the whole sky surely is not related to the real one it's probably just inspired by it
True
Maybe krill is lucifer flake😱
I should probably sleep... Its 12:40am for me rn
And i think most of the statues in eden in pose of kneeling, if not kneeling then they passively not into fighthing what is in there but accept their fate
All of the spirits are also kneeling in their statue state
In paranormal when u say light or children of light some will connect it to nephelims or the fallen angels since lucifer is the angel of light before he got fallen
Before sun or any source of light is God, but christianity make it all believers as pagan and of course will not accept

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It says the prince wakes up and takes you out of the kings body?
King=Prince in a mech suit
Prince=Just... A smol guy who looks exactly like us but has a star as a head
the king is like a mech suit for the prince, and i suppose he becomes trapped until you wake him up
It actually saying the destroyed eden is king who trying to kill you... And after you die the shiny boi aka prince comes to save you from him
I think
Woah
When we die in eden we go to a glowing child, which i guess is sleeping??? And we hug them... Is thay child the Prince
I don't know. Though there are theories that he is.
I personally believe that the Child is the Prince
Yes the boi we hug is king/prince... And it's canon. Dm for more info

What happen in sky world i think is like what happened to Lemuria and atlantis
ooh?
Wait, I don't think it's confirmed
It's confirmed in the pins
Wait, really?
Man abused the shared knowledge from higher being and whats left right now are wonders of this world that till now remains mysterious
enlightment, connection, surreal The last descendant take the prince's hand, offer all the inner lights to him. It releases the prince's spirit and all descendants' spirits. Spirits leave the bodies and start ascending up, flying out of the storm. All spirits fuse together to release the memories of the entire kingdom. Grateful for what the descendants have done, light creatures (white manta) carry their spirits back to the human world, giving them a new life. ( Found this from a link in the pins)
@primal verge Actually, it is THE Child of Light, or at least theorized to be. What you're referring to are the Winged Lights, and their officially named as the "Imprints of the Child of Light", not THE Child of Light
Yeah
@thin dirge oh, sry my bad
It's alright
I think they first had a solid lore, but then made it vague and then focused on other aspects.such as friends and emote
I think they first had a solid lore, but then made it vague and then focused on other aspects.such as friends and emote
@wind arch which is a good idea
Yeah. Also, they probably had to limit all the lore and stuff since the game is meant to be on mobile. Not sure how phones would be able to handle all the stuff planned.

Woah
"the prince wakes u up and saves u from the king"..... Is death the king?
We do be dead till we hug that child
Wait who is the king and why prince saves us from him?
There are 7 fallen angels too
and 7 realms (if you count eden)
Yeah
Pretty sure Megan is waaaayyyyy bigger in the current game tho
I might go to sleep now. Its almost 1am
If you look closely you can see smaller beams of light from the surface, those are probably from the temples right
Sky kid continue to rebirth to cleanse our sins, and learn how to give, share and learn the value of sacrifice for greater good, bec we are all part of the great war and we choose the wrong side, so the cycle of karma and reincarnation very clear in sky game thats my opinion sorry if it doesnt make any sense with u guys ✌🏻
G'night guys
@thorn portal what did we do that was wrong tho?
Yea it's my question too
it's kinda unfair to accuse sky kids of sinning and choosing the wrong side. we are thrown into this world without knowing what to do or where to go
if that's what you meant
As a representation of rebels during the war in heaven we choose the wrong side, now as a punishment karma and reincarnation for us to be cleanse again and go back to heaven as a children of god not children of light
@frail hearth omg PERIODT, when i was a moth I was asking every other player what am I supposed to do
lmao
Biologically can skykids feel cold?
Theres a cold emo i think yes 😬🤭
Are there cold places in realms
Is the shivering in hidden forest cutscene related to cold
No but maybe windy places?😅
Since we don't feel heat i supposed we don't feel cold either
Nice
Oh the Icy lake in valley of triumph, the surface is ice which means the water is probably really cold
Didn't notice my skykid do anything while in that ice cold water
So i guess no, we don't feel cold
Yea right it acts normal
So, I did Eden today and I was wondering if any of you knew who those statues represent in the Point Of No Return
all i know is that you can see those identical statues while ascending
:0 Whoa you do ??
i tried to take a pic of one but fell lol

Maybe yeah
I saw another one that had a sort of circle on it’s back like the thing Arceus has in pokemon
Why sky kid always wear mask whats its representation? And why if sky kid faceless eyes closed? Bec as a children of light, we are afraid of the light itself, as the fallen angels does, so now we are repenting thru act of goodness and sacrifice and sharing the light saving it to be back where we trully belongs
I saw another one that had a sort of circle on it’s back like the thing Arceus has in pokemon
@weary galleon like a pointy wheel?
yknow what guys the seasonal area might be in isle
isle has alot of space , pretty empty . so yeah . i think it might be somewhere on that side island , there's a crashed boat so 😎
I saw some art lyk that
this one?
Yep
@wind arch Yeah that
Got a pic of the Arceus wheel?
I got one from afar (in game)
and i'm sure the spirit guide is not in the pic
none really " fit " as a spirit guide i think
ooo
I dunno I have gone into The End so many time and I just noticed it 😂
I think it fell when I got close
So that’s maybe why you haven’t seen it
I think it fell when I got close
@weary galleon whaa it fell?
It acc looks exactly like Arceus aswell
@wind arch Yup, something on it’s back feel to the ground, shattering to the ground and after that the Big Statue didn’t have the wheel thingy
It does tbh
Also I never noticed that the little statues had a bit of yellow inside
Mmmh i gotta go check that I don’t remember 😂
Yeah you kinda right, tho it’s not very apparent at first
It does look like a shield
Here is concept art for the graveyard skeletons, what do these skulls look like to people?
You can see in orbit as well
@hushed steeple I never noticed them 😂😂
Lol
where are their shells? Ore were these shell-less turtles?
They don't have shells
I wonder if they were here before the krills because that’s some big skull
Their body is like whale's
it's the head that looks like sea turtles



That makes sense
Credit @/bluespirit#8811
Off topic question
Are the eggs in forest near the temple just there or are we supposed to help hatch them
sad
what if it's true👀
my theory is that those eggs are the whale's children, but she died in the rain
or whatever that skeleton is
That’s sad
this is sky almost everything is sad or scary
Pretty small nest for a creature that big tho
Yeah that's a whale skeleton
Because you got whale call when near it for the first time
this is sky almost everything is sad or scary
@frail hearth
PERIODT
@frail hearth That’s also true
I may be late but does anyone have any theories for the "beware the prophecy.." pic?
Ahah coming back again When you are just about to enter The Point Of No Return, you hear some weird sounds and I wondered if that’s just the wind or krills or I dunno what
(I am clueless)
probably the rock rain
some theorize it’s the king 
or the screams of the poor lost souls that dared to face the king
Nono, right before u enter the eye of eden there's a howling sound, pretty scary
that’s what i’m talking about, ignis
It does sound scary tho
Does anyone know if the king was a tyrant?
it’s up to you !
Most likely
most theorize he wasn’t exactly very good at being king
either in an innocent way or in an evil way
but we know very little about him, so do what you want !
Well i barely know what’s happening anyways, other than the fact that there was once a great civilization
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I see
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Oof
I thought the word "spoilers" in the channel name meant we could post beta stuff
Nope
Sorry about that 😅
Beta content can only be posted in beta channels
So the spoilers part only applies to eden and office?
!spoilers
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Thanks for clearing it up!
What if there was another area added to Eden that’s just a broken city like wasteland but much more rubble and statues and red crystals and that’s where the new season is
That would be so cool
ooh
non-lore speculation goes in #seasons-events-chat, thank you
That would be new lore
I’m just repeating what mods have said, Kai
Anyway
If there was a new area added to Eden that could open up a whole new discussion about the fall of everything, honestly I want more cannon lore so bad and I think Eden lore would be cool.
We could get more of an idea why Eden is so chaotic and if it was once a big city/capitol like some speculate
Thank you and don't worry it happens with newbies here
Is there info on how many statues are there before the actual eye of eden?
statues? like the fallen?
Yeah, like the one's u return the light to
You mean before entering the shiny boi cave?
Yes
then none
There are a few but it’s hard to say cause they seem to fall apart when you get close to them
No there are some, they just crumble and fall apart so you can’t save them or anything
As far i remember there are 2 crystallized statues and 4 fallen child
@normal berry there are! U can't return ur light to them tho
oh, you mean before we enter the area. and not before eden happened?
i thought you meant before eden went all red and stuff
I could be wrong tho
Earlier I was wondering
maybe 3-5, i dont rememver
How we never can fulfill our mission of bringing the light back
Since there are 87 wl
And only 63 statues
88
In eye of eden
There used to be something about the wasteland elder being corrupted in original concepts, so I think it would be cool if a new season brought more lore to corruption
@lethal stump the 88th one is in orbit isn't it? So technically no need to bring it back
true
Well I've something that i want to share why there are 63 statues in storm
It's just a guess
Go ahead
Go for it



It's kinda based on religion
63 fallen childs... As they tried to save eden before we came in sky (great beings)
Oooo
That’s interesting !
That is interesting, and it does seem like it would be odd if it were only coincidence
Perhaps tgc took inspiration from that for lore !
Earlier in this chat we were discussing on how u should focus on what inspired tgc to make the game rather than looking for clues inside the game
it may be very difficult to figure that out though
you might be making a lot of assumptions
We love overthinking

@hushed steeple big brain effects in coming 😂
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I'm lost in all the info that is shared lol @topaz girder
are you new to lore, Donut ?
@lethal stump yes
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I’m curious as to what prophecy we should be aware of
In regards to the new season teaser:
- we don't know when this takes place
- we don't know where this takes place
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Oh but I mean we can theorize what the new season could bring about in regards lore right?
ofc
I believe the prophecy is referring to whatever the elders didn’t listen to, mentioned in the opening
If only they had listened...
It would certainly answer a lot of questions
this new season sounds so scary😭
Ohh this game is becoming more interesting
bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @hushed steeple

Is like Evangelion in game
so I looked back at after the elder scene in waste and saw that there was light coming through the slits in the ceiling
and in the cutscene I remember the elder throwing the fire we give him into the sky
is the light we give him connected to this light?
Could be
You probably get this message alot but I wanna learn about the lore more but idk how to start or read
I tried to fly up to it but it took me back to the temple before the cutscene happen which I wierd
Which one temple? This one in pic or the four krill?
Maybe in the new season it’ll cover on how the corruption was first discovered and the prophecy was the warning 
As bricky said
the one in the pic prince
Ouhh okay
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I tried to fly up to it but it took me back to the temple before the cutscene happen which I wierd
It’s called a reset wall, you can’t go past a certain point without being sent back
right
You can go through one of the gaps
which one?
But there is nothing interesting outside
That wall represent as the protector from the dangerous place
Let me see if I have a pic
I think there is something interesting down and far away from that temple...using chibi oob style
This is what the outside of the temple looks like
Like a castle if I remember
not much I see
But I can’t reach that castle coz there is reset wall
It’s probably the elder cutscene area, like the arena in valley
Yeah maybe
just went to try and it's the bottom slit
The empty green sky might just be a "game thing"
Yes
Lighting, probably
But it’s a pretty narrow space between wind walls and reset walls. You can’t wonder off too far from there
yep there's not much here
thats an oob? right?
prolly not much cause technically you shouldn't be able to be there
hey guys - i don't know if anyone has spotted this or maybe i'm wrong but i was looking at older versions of sky thru @thatgamecompany on insta, and noticed something
this is an old picture from beta testing. look at the mask. we can't see it, but we get the general shape, right?
now i looked at the new teaser and and noticed the same mask
i don't know much about the cosmetics from beta so i could be nothing but i did think it was interesting. any ideas?
aint that just this mask
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