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They are in the form of krill
And they used to be called krill too
And even devs call them krill
And
And
And
our STICKERS CALL EM KRILL

The missions call them Dark Dragons but they are also called Krills so Idk
U can’t be a dragon yet krill
Ya gotta grow some wingsss and not be a shrimp 🦐
Can somone explain the juicy lore to me since I have no idea what happened I allready finished the game
And why is everyone dead
But if everyones dead how does "the city gates" open
In valley
Gotta break it to you
We barely have any answers at all to confirmed lore 🙂
We jus have theories and speculations so we all have our own way of interpreting the lore of this game
we had really nice theories tho 🥺
Can I hear some 👀
This game once it reaches pc and console will really become popular and then theory people could probbaly work on it
It’s meant to be a mobile game
I don’t think they are going to bigger consoles, they even admit that if they do, they are going to need an upgrade
We also have to have it android compatible
And we work on theories everyday, bc of the lack of lore, it’s hard to work on 1 single theory with 0 evidence
But I got one
They said they are?
They allready confirmed for switch
They said
That they put on mobile first
For easier portability
And also
To let families play it faster
But they defonatly said they are bringing it to consoles and pc
And also ik sure theirs a crapton of hidden lore in places ppl havent looked or something 👀 but I'm not smart enough to figure it out
“So this one is based on the purpose of boats and the theory of diamond production. Boats are mainly for the use of carrying pots of light. You can see these pots of light being made at prairie and I say pots of light because there are butterflies put inside them. In the wave emote cutscene, u can actually see one of the flying boats carrying pots of light.
These pots are being shipped to forest to make power diamonds, they combine the light with organic material at forest and use a diamond press to combine them into an artificial Star, or what we call “power diamond”. You can actually see the concept of this by looking at the forest temple door mural. And I know I’ve been explaining this theory over and over and over again but I’m in quarantine and I got nothing else to do but heres another way of looking how power diamonds are made. This diamond press in the picture is also seen at the golden wasteland, and there’s a krill flying around it. It may be broken down but it is noticeable that it is the same factory. Also the shipwreck at wasteland is seen to be carrying certain pieces of this diamond press, it goes to the top and sides. Now I know there’s boats everywhere and not all of them are carrying pots of light, so I jus assume they are for transportation since the people on the ground can’t fly naturally”
Lyst if ur reading this, jus kno that I made my record to 63 😂
Also no I dont know how mobile to console is easier than console to mobile but they said
Ohh that's smart and makes sense
I’m not sure where u heard them say that they are going to add it to consoles and pc
But if they do, I wish them luck
Yeah I did hear them say it when I first played the game I searched up
Not sure where I did though unfortunately
Also
What's a star 👀
Depends what ur referring to
Uhh
In sky
“Star” is referred to a lot of things
Yikes
Umm well I dont know anything called a star except in the begining of the game in that first cutscene
Where stars fall
does the whale have any lore to it at all? all i know is that it has some connection to wasteland
it also appears in the cave area in forest and at the end of eden when you’re flying to orbit
theres also a whale skeleton in the final area of forest with broken trees behind its trail
and i thiiinnkk the skeletons in wasteland are also whale??
yeah these things are all over the place
theres also another one in forest
that you can actually see
yes
And also a golden whale at the end of the game no?
mhm
waiT I HAVE ONE THING
well I said this about 4 times a row now but
Wasteland elder mask is based on a whale head
yes
Yes
why is there a manta in wasteland
maybe it got lost?
I think they put it there to show us that krills are bad and u should stay away from them
And they gave us an example when it killed the poor manta

theres more to the whale that i havent seen people discuss yet 
it’s secretly a fish
Ash!
Idk what else
It’s jus a flying dude that is seen in a few places, a corpse is seen at forest and it even ascends to orbit
One of the only important lore details I know is that the wasteland elder mask is based on its head. In fact it seems like it’s not even from the sky kingdom. No murals or any sign of any involvement with the whale
there's more?
tuna king
steeples fingers
there may be more to uncover
but i cannot say what those secrets may be
but not everything about our big fishy friend has been unearthed! 
What do you guys think of that cave in Isle of Dawn with the boat at the end? It has a spirit gate on it now but there’s still like nothing really in it that I can find.
I know this is a literal Easter Egg, but what kind of eggs do you think they are? I’ve ruled out whale eggs because the fish only lives in the clouds.
It’s something from beta, idk what tho
Ah
It was a bird...I think
Lol yeah makes sense
Idk someone mentioned it before
Does Sky have giant birds?? OwO
the megabird 
and the one from rhythm, the performs use it to travel
aaaaaanyone noticed a boat in the back of the enchantment promo-art? 
at least looks like it
It’s said these people come from a faraway place right?
iirc
Maybe they came from the sea in the first level
it sort of, looks uneven
end and beginning of the boat arent on the same level
its hard to make out the details
Ye~
but yes, it could be the one theyve travelled on
Ahhh I wanna say something but it’s a spoiler for u guys 😖

Payshense
day 7643578 of waiting for enchantment: i have ascended beyond godhood and resorted to brighting up images fnaf theorist style
i just looked back at what ash said and i am now on a manhunt to unearth whale i swear its been bugging me for so long and that comment just set me off
Guys guys
Imma drop the take of the damn century
Y’all ever in Home Space and look at that random island in the distance
Well
I think that ain’t random

That’s actually THE ISLE OF DAWN
im listening
AND HOME SPACE IS THE VERY VERY BEGINNING
🤔 whered u get that from :o
My head
noted
youre right im sorry for doubting you doctor phD
ITS DOCTOR RIM
sorry sorry doctor candlefarming
Reeeeeeeeeeee
unearth is a METAPHOR
He don’t actually mean look underground for lore answers
.....unless
There seems to just be a LOT of lore to this game. Is there somewhere where I could start looking at anything or read theories or something. It’s a little bit hard to piece together much from just trying to read through this and I wanted to know if there’s a good place to start or a direction to go in here.
There are great theories that Jay makes and one that I really liked from beanie child, you could possibly search their usernames and it will give u a list of things they said.
which island...? thats the one where the intro cutscene happens @hushed steeple
You go on prairie
And the first area
There’s a gian ball looking thing with holes
There it is
wut
werent you talking about the distant island at home space
so nope, not isle
I jus now noticed I said something on here that was meant for another chat
😂😂😂
i have noticed that all these elder statue/throne looking things have a diamond space in them.... which made me think that something would happen if we put a “power diamond” in them? i mean... it’s kind of the right size. idk if this was mention in all the theories i have read... didn’t see anything that mention this but i may have missed it.. idk
Only the wasteland one is cracked
...ur pfp kinda cute
But ur right no one ever mentioned the diamond space on the shrines
One thing that is mentioned a lot is what midori said about the wasteland shrine being cracked
We also see that diamond on their suits in their cutscenes, like the prairie elder
Speaking of the prairie elder, I just realized that if you combine his two side pigtails, they’ll look like butterflies
I think I’m just the only one who didn’t knew about this until now
Also what if the statues we’ve seen in all temples are sort of cacoons of the elders, that they’ve been trapped too because of the big diamond. It’s like reliving their memories, but it’s also like you are meditating/touching or getting contact with the statue and then is when you could talk to the elders.
And about the diamonds appearing on their statues in vault, probably they gave part of their power to the diamond.
Ok I’m talking too much, I’ll let the rest of you brainstorm
Actually
This is good, I never thought about the elder hair being a butterfly 😮
I’d say it’s also maybe like a core thing?
Seems there’s a “core” on all sky people as almost everyone has a diamond in the middle- even our sky kids.
Maybe that’s where the spirit itself lies?
The elder cutscenes took place somewhere beyond space and time they said but it is also confirmed that they could still affect the real world
For example in old beta they used to have the wasteland elder lifting the gate open and when u got back to the real world, u would see the gate opening
Honestly, that would be a better cutscene for the wasteland elder, but now he’s weak to lift the gate up because of his scars in his battle. I saw in beta sky videos that valley twins spin around the air with the light you carry? Iirc..
How about an event of just elder lore at this rate 

Hi all! I apologize in advance if this has been discussed in the past, but am I right in assuming that the bones in the Graveyard part of Wasteland are whale bones? And if so, did they die because of the krill, the industrialization/pollution of the wasteland, or no particular reason?
Not rlly sure if all are whales
But reika did say some of them were based on sea turtles
I didn’t know that, that’s very cool, thanks Jay
Has anyone ever noticed how there’s always like some kind of heartbeat playing in the background of the game? Idk if I’m just imagining it but sometimes when the music stops I swear I can hear like a heartbeat and I’ve wondered if that’s at all important.
That heartbeat happens when u hold a friends hand ❤️
Unless the game updated and now it happens 24/7
But besides that, it jus beats when ur holding a friends hand
@sly kestrel Huh, that’s an interesting detail. At least now I know I’m not crazy.
Hey so anyone have stuff on wasteland? I’m not much about lore but wastelands interests me with the looking/searching spirit almost seemingly warning someone/a village of some sort? Just curious is there is anymore information on this 🧐
Not much confirmed stuff but we have theories on the war that happened and some think the soldiers are protecting vault, so for now jus make ur own story
But what I have is that the first krill area is a diamond press, jus like the one in the hidden forest so they both made power diamonds
how to go to space?
@dense haven
You can get to space through the office if it's the right day! The events in office go through a nine day cycle. When it's space day, go to the tv on the room on the left inside the office and if you tap the warp symbol
there it'll take you to space.
For future reference, this channel is for lore discussion, so #questions-and-help would be a better place to ask next time!
And spoiler tag the office don’t forget!
okay
Hi all! I apologize in advance if this has been discussed in the past, but am I right in assuming that the bones in the Graveyard part of Wasteland are whale bones? And if so, did they die because of the krill, the industrialization/pollution of the wasteland, or no particular reason?
@grim nebula well i think we can confirm that the forest bones is from a whale based on the size and skull shape. and the ribs in wasteland are identical in size and shape. so perhaps the bones in wasteland are whales. what i believe happened is that the whales used to roam that area but pollution came in and with that pollution came the krill and attacked the whales. krill attack our light. whales have light. and you can still see a whale or 2 at the entrance of wasteland. that’s probably the only one surviving in the wasteland
also i think i have found a ufo 🛸 in the flying race.... what do you all think?
it also could be a rock of some sort but i see a ufo
they were inspired by turtle heads or somethign
turtle heads?
ooooh i ought you were talking about the ufo lol
yeah it seems kind of turtle skull shape
thats probably just rocks
also noticed..... there are 3 i guess you would call them “stages” in waste land. did something used to be here?
Something from gratitude, but it’s nothing too major
i know it was from gratitude but isn’t almost everything they add to the game have something to do with the sky’s story?
Every season is canon they said
And some seasonal spirits actually interact with the normal sky spirits
how so?
honestly i'd take a season for elder lore
And if ur talking about a whole area that was patched up, there wasn’t
Well I don’t remember anything there
@elder iron the owl spirit in the winter season was seen to be with the pray spirit in vault, and the lightseeker crab caller also attends to a body that looks like a normal spirit. Those are some examples
If ur confused jus watch an old version on yt iggie, it might show it
There’s a symbol that appears in Valley (beginning of both races) and at the beginning of Eden. I’ll let you guys talk about this because my head is empty
Ahh I mentioned this before but yes I noticed that too, it’s in other places as well but I could never find an explanation to it

AHHH
....so yu didn’t come to say hi 😔
And no the king head is slightly different
Actually I looked at every single piece of concept art presented here, didn’t find anything resembling that symbol
So we have to go by environmental stuff 👀
HIIIII
Reika also says hello
Tell her I said hi tooo
Hi Reika!
Hello
At some point I nicknamed her the riddler cuz of the lore details she g....
I have been summoned
HAIIIII
what was that Jay 
Uh...
well every time we tried to ask a specific question u always answered in some sort of riddle or tiny clue
Therefore I called u the riddler
Ok...
I’ll go look for more symbols
still waiting on that child of light explanation 
I had to take a shower and then U DISAPPEARED
And there’s that symbol in the forest temple
Reika giveths secrets but you must solve the riddles three
what was the child of light explaination
Tbh I forgot everything she said
yo Guys
I was told it’s like a graphical glitch but idk
hey pines
Would u be willing to.......give this chat lore topics or details every now and then. Something that gives the chat LIFE and for us to jus go like 
Jus an idea
Welp seems like they’re off again
Weeping willowww, wait up, imma look for symbols with you
The pink is a bug and will be fixed soon!
Hi
That’s isle’s thing
I know those pillars weren’t always there
Really?
And yes that symbol I see it everywhere and made a million theories about it
That symbol is seen to represent a lot of different things, like in the intro it seemed to represent each elder, and tons of murals had them. The first one we see at the isle cave is when the “stars” fell and we all know they meant the elders but they had this 8 spine symbol. This is also seen on boats of another mural as if they were taken somewhere. It’s also on the circle wasteland shields, and I noticed a bunch of other stuff but it’s all too confusing and I gave up on it 🙂
???
Something from old beta
It activated a certain quest
And I’m not sure but if u sit at the right spot u might hear the meditation jingle thingy that plays


what is the area between the end of the meteors and the starry area in eden, where the big fish shows up. Is it all the same fish or multiple big fishies?
We don't really know the answer. Both are possible
I like to think that is one big whale
yeah me too
I also love the theory saying that he's the last of their kind
it's sad but ig i love dark theories
@upbeat jetty this channel is amazing
@sturdy gate maybe long ago, the one in Eden was the original race track or something??



Hmm
Maybe?
I see many similarities between valley and Eden
It even has those red ribbons on the walls
i don't know if this has been elaborated on
but i guess a skykid could turn into statues if the candle inside their chest are damaged.
normal= candle has a flame
bald= candle has no flame
@sturdy gate I think that maybe Eden was the original palace? Because I think I remember there being mentioned here and there that there used to be spirit royalty as well
Maybe?
Also @languid sun, that's pretty plausible, esp with ||what happens at the end of Eden||
No need to spoiler it this is litterally the spoilers channel
Anyway does anyone know why everyone turned to statues
I think the eden explosion is what made them like that and I also noticed that the skykids in eden came before our race of skykids, probably sent to do a different mission than us
so when you die you experience some sort of weird dream thing
is that Barack Obama coming to us and forwarding the player to the light like how he killed the US?
megabird
Nagati was kind enough to pin the opening sequence
With the stars united, our light was infinite.
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.
There is lore speculation that the spirits kind of harnessed the power of the light creatures in Sky and made them into power diamonds
but the darkness came and caused the destruction that we see, and we have to return them to the stars
Yeh it was a storage place where the mom belonging spirit came to look for a table cloth but found sparklers instead
Has anyone wondered if the darkness took form of some sort of evil being and took over Eden?
some of the areas are more due to game mechanics than actual lore, imo
There's a theory that the Eye of Eden is a giant power diamond (you can kind of see it exploding in the distance in the red rock area) that exploded
I think I have a picture of the power diamond
No she has the other emote @hushed steeple the one where u pop a sparkler and draw the infinity sign in the air
It’s aight haha
what is thought to be the power diamond
I believe so
you know, that's an interesting connection
maybe
it would kind of make sense
I believe the shiny boi is supposed to be a reflection of you. There's a dichotomy of light and dark
did you know that the shiny boi's size changes based on yours?
chibi shiny boi is great
so cute
part of me wants to go to Eden and film the whole thing after the dying sequence
because I think the children we save fly above the diamond
but it would make sense that we would be in the diamond and then fly straight up out of it
I have 10 wedges now and am not super excited about losing them again, but I'll check YT and see if someone has something
for me, Eden itself isn't too bad, it's just the fact that I don't really have to go anymore and am just losing winged light every time
for no reason
yeah
I have 70 ascended candles now
It's a great message for the game, the sacrificing of yourself to gain better rewards, in a way, but it becomes tiresome after a while
Hey people can i ask you a little question :)?
Ow i think i m in the wrong chat. It was about the stars that i lost
if it's a regular question about gameplay, #questions-and-help is better
if it's a question specifically about eden, #eden-spoilers is better
this is the lore channel 
Ok thank you😉
whats lore?
lore is basically the story of the game
like what inspired the spirits to make butterflies, or why the boats fly
Boats fly?
we have very little canon (that is, confirmed lore), so much of this channel is conjecture until we get more answers
yes! boats fly
there's a trailer in #news for the new season
check it out, it's really cool
flying boat
I wonder what they do with crystals...
lemme rephrase that... how does their crystal magic work?
like the power diamond theory?
I'm new to this channel so I pretty much have little knowledge with the current lore. How does that work?
that's totally fine!
the power diamond theory is based on the fact that the Prairie spirit can be seen making a butterfly from the light and placing it in a jar. In several places in Forest, you can see pictures of the jars being transported to other places. One theory is that both the Forest and Wasteland temples were actually used to make power diamonds (and/or refine them) from the light from the jars (or something), and the power diamonds were used to power things like flying boats and other technology
Jay sums it up pretty well
What about the light? The one the Prairie Elder used to make butterflies? Where does it come from?
if you search this channel by using the commands in:#lore-discussion-spoilers and from:Jay in the search bar, you should be able to find Jay's explanation of the power diamond theory
actually let me copy it
there's like 10 Jays
“So this one is based on the purpose of boats and the theory of diamond production. Boats are mainly for the use of carrying pots of light. You can see these pots of light being made at prairie and I say pots of light because there are butterflies put inside them. In the wave emote cutscene, u can actually see one of the flying boats carrying pots of light.
These pots are being shipped to forest to make power diamonds, they combine the light with organic material at forest and use a diamond press to combine them into an artificial Star, or what we call “power diamond”. You can actually see the concept of this by looking at the forest temple door mural. And I know I’ve been explaining this theory over and over and over again but I’m in quarantine and I got nothing else to do but heres another way of looking how power diamonds are made. This diamond press in the picture is also seen at the golden wasteland, and there’s a krill flying around it. It may be broken down but it is noticeable that it is the same factory. Also the shipwreck at wasteland is seen to be carrying certain pieces of this diamond press, it goes to the top and sides. Now I know there’s boats everywhere and not all of them are carrying pots of light, so I jus assume they are for transportation since the people on the ground can’t fly naturally”
Lyst if ur reading this, jus kno that I made my record to 63 😂
from Jay
it didn't copy the picture :(
here it is
this is the theory, but I don't think it's been confirmed yet
Found it
But it seems im a bit late xD
The compressed artificial star seems to make sense
They could use it to power their boats, creating their very own gravitational fields which explains why they float on air
mmboi I read the doc with the current lore theories everyone has been sharing. Really cool stuff! ^u^
Hoping to contribute something in the future
like write on it?
or see it?
that's the non-canon lore
here is the canon lore https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE
from Hage Jiisama
aka wingsbutnohalo
I see what you're talking about with the jars of light
This could also come into play "ancient power" could be referring to the diamonds
So how are people getting in the new area of wasteland?
wrong channel
omg ancient power !! that makes so much more sense now in this light
OMG ANCIENT POWER
THAT COMPLETES MY DIAMOND THWORYEBDJRVDJ TH DNS
its all coming together 
🦀 power diamonds are canon 🦀
Also are the diamonds the things in vault?
Tbh I forgot where I heard the word power diamond but I always used that term and if I remember correctly
It was said that the power diamonds were related to the downfall of the civilization
Are these power diamonds?
Oh
But we usually call em lanterns and no those aren’t power diamonds
Ik I shouldn’t be referring all my knowledge from the concept arts BUT, apparently those are bottled up memories or knowledge and it was said to hold memories from the past and even knowledge that is forbidden. I forgot the details but it was described as a holographic projector sort of
Think of those lanterns like a bunch of movie tapes
I’m rlly not entirely sure if I’m right but this is what I got from concepts
wait so what happened exactly in the eye of eden?
Are these whale bones?
Idk for sure
could be, the size and shape would match
But the strange stuff u see at vault, don’t think it has a comparison to everything bc it was said that vault supposed to be dream like and Thas why u see some crazy stuff
It looks like forest was an important thing. It’s so big compared to the other temples
idk if this bird is real or just a statue but if its a real bird then woot there should be something that tells the story of did it get there
or why is it placed there
idek
im dumb at stuff
What is the giant bones in wasteland? For sure it ain’t krill. Krills are smaller than those bones.
It’s something old from beta, u used to go to that bird and do a quest where u collect lights around the citadel
And the bones are theorized to be whales and sea turtles cuz reika said most of them were based on them
@inland narwhal the giant bones are believed to be whale bones, which is that huge fish thing that appears occasionally in the game
What is the giant bones in wasteland? For sure it ain’t krill. Krills are smaller than those bones.
@inland narwhal whale bones!
there's also one in hidden forest if u can find it 😉
i was gonna answer till i realized it was a quote
@ashen delta enlighten me
And those whale looked small as well.
When passing through Eden for reborn we get a close up.
Those bones are something else. Pretty huge in compared to the ones we see occasionally.
maybe big boi whales
there is a theory that there are bigger krill
bc there are some bones near the shipwreck that have jagged like horns
unlike the ones that krill have
hmm
I think it’s the thing you see in that hidden room in the forest and the travel frome the valley to the waistland tornado
But grown up
what exactly is the story behind oreo?
So there are 2 nice windwalls near the pier that let you see more of wasteland, and it looks like the ruins we see are a bridge that leads to a temple or possibly diamond factory
why would there be a factory in wasteland tho 
Not a temple but yes there is
Also mael
That pic u showed, there’s three of them like that, one on the left map and another 2 on the right
what if they have something in common with Journey? like, what was before even the war on Journey
what's why you are a child in Sky and an adult in Journey
I don’t think journey and sky are related lore wise
And if they were, they would need permission from the company’s
But who knows u may be right
This man probably made a lore connection
sky and journey are theorized to be connected by many people
ive never played so i cant say
but they are made by the same people so its a possibility
I also never played journey
There were other companies associated with journey, not jus tgc
And I wanna play journey too but I’m BROKE
Wdym?
after i ascend the traveling spirit after going thru eden i will use up all my candles lol
and im also going through eden to do some lore research
👀
HI GUYS ^^

I would like to ask when the new season will come ^^ 。・°°・(>_<)・°°・。I AM SO EXCITED 😆

oh
Sorry

thanks
Me too
I REALLY WANNA TO THE NEW SPIRITS SND EMOTES :3
The new places

MORE LIGHT STARS
@hushed steeple really ?!!!
COOL
^^

I actually didn’t understood so much about the lore of the game
its okay! neither do we

you got me all giddy now 
#HOPES AND DREAMS
XD
Undertale

I am dying
XD
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Yo anyone have the not pixelated as heck version of this
@nocturne estuary what is that 👀
Yee
It’s the old concept names, sadly they aren’t canon anymore but their names were based on Hebrew letters
How tall, in irl measurements, would you all say a skykid is? 
i think i have discovered something? nothing big though
it’s about the races in valley
so i noticed there are 2 teams... blue side and red side....based on the colors of the banners. blue side go to right door and red side goes through left door. idk if it would have been a group team or just one player vs another. and i have also noticed that a spirit in valley has a red cape... perhaps they were on the red team?
lol
I’ve literally never looked up there. Nice!
Me neitherrrrr ur amazing
Can anyone with the right blue cape take me to the place because I bought the wrong color blue
I’ve literally never looked up there. Nice!
@hasty fable I think u should go to #looking-for-group-live, if ur looking for someone to take you to the secret area
Oh I just need some friend codes
This isn’t the chat for that
U will have a better chance of finding friend codes if u go to that channel ^
^^^
Hello
so I could cosplay my sky kid at 5’2’, now how tall would the elders be going off that scale
Hi kuro 
Guys I have an idea
Remember how there was no isle on the Eden gate?
And in other places?
Maybe Isle was producing boats!!
For the other lands. And the elder was telling those birds to go away
And those birds are always there
Even in Eden!
And maybe Isle was the one that was producing everything
All those bridges in wasteland
@sturdy gate ⬆️ perhaps but in prairie you can see part of a boat being made behind the 2 player door closest to the temple. which i call the work shop. and there’s also a work shop in the big caves in prairie. so far 2 work shops 
Maybe Isle makes the material ?
isle was ferrying the creatures towards eden
we always see them all going towards the same direction so oof
the only places with power diamond production sites and material harvesting was forest and wasteland
Oh you guys talking bout the wrecked boats?
Well speaking bout boats wbo the one with 3 orbs in I think Isle of Dawn?
I’ll try to follow the birds now
Is that just kind of a secret spot or is there something to it
And why is that area in Prairie called the birds nest?
Hmm
I’ll go see
Omg I think I got a thing
The birds were going to the megabird
The isle people prayed to the stars and they were the first ones that got the power
Maybe Isle was the very first thing?
Where everything started
The spirits are guiding you to the rest of the world
And then they took the stars to the other lands
Maybe the other lands didn’t know how to take care of the power?
The isle elder only used it to give
The other elders used it for power
The forest one is really bad to that light haha
Maybe the wasteland one tried to protect it like the isle elder
And that’s why something attacked wasteland
The devs says that the realms symbolizes different stages of civilization, so your theory makes sense
@hushed steeple
So, in my head, it goes like this:
A star broke and its pieces fell (or an entire constellation has fallen) unto a planet inhabited my homonid beings. The inhabitants learned how to harness the fallen stars' powers and used it on their daily things. They then thought of embedding these stars to their ships (with which I think were early prototypes of the power diamonds) which caused their seacrafts to levitate, which thus gave them aerial transport.
- That's for Isle
For Prairie:
The inhabitants have begun using the light more in their normal lives. With the light from star shards, follows life (like how a regular star sustains life on a planet within the goldilocks zone). Creatures of light began appearing as shown by the Prairie Elder. They made use of these new natural resources to further develop their civilization.
Their life-giving light had another effect in which they may or may have not known about. Their light casts a shadow, and with much like the light, the shadow also gives life, hence we start seeing dark plants naturally growing.
- I have a screenshot of dark plants naturally growing off the containers which were supposed to contain light resources inside the Prairie Cave but I am having trouble uploading it atm. They can't be burn.
That too... there is also a possibility that the stars that have fallen are beings that helped whoever was down there in the Isle
Yes
That's fine mate
It could be that the stars that fell were powerful lights and the people who managed to have those lights manifested in them became the Elders
Haven't gone far to Eden with my hypothesis atm coz im still tryina piece out the history of the 6 realms
For Forest:
Industrialization began. Basically at this point, they began harvesting more of their natural resources to erect structures (and possibly began building the temples of Isle and Prairie). Their light grew through their technological advancements along with their mass production of power diamonds. The shadow cast by their light also grew and more dark plants began to naturally sprout.
For Valley:
It's pretty much straightforward. Canon lore has established that the Valley was their capital and other theories have considered this as the peak of their civilization.
I'm still yet to theorize Golden Wastelands and the Vault coz those 2 have a lot of stuff going on for me lol
yep
I actually found a peculiar piece of detail
The way its positioned had me intrigued
Generally the entire graveyard area is in intriguing
If the defenders were fighting off against something. Why is it positioned towards the entrance to the battlefield?
Shouldn't it be near the gate? Like the other structures near in the battlefield
Most probably, but why put it there? Unless something started coming out of the graveyard. Like it was ground zero of something terrible and the defenders were trying to control it.
Everything in the wastelands looks like it used to be a city but got taken over by krill, crabs and green mist
I have a picture I draw
about the broken temple at the start of the wasteland
did it house an elder statue before it was broken?
I’m wondering how Wasteland was before the war
someone pointed out how the broken temple was similar to the other big temple at the end of forest, just in ruins
wonder if it ever had its own (now forever lost) elder or if the statue was moved to safety elsewhere
also is the wasteland on the ground
it doesn’t seem to be bordered by cloud like the other areas
the temples are places of importance of an elder so it’s not a worshipping thing
wasteland isn’t on the ground though it’s just really deep inside the clouds similar to forest
it’s deeper in a cloud than forest then, I can see the cloud border in forest
mhm
g o l d e n v e n i c e
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
shouldn’t you ask in #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat
it’s not lore related so you should go to the fanart channels
@nova tiger shores of mana
wh y
I see ur using my vocabulary 😌
Why are we keeping an elder in a diamond press anyways
The elder’s temples aren’t rlly temples at all
They are jus places of IMPORTANCE to that specific elder
Thank
thank?
I just found this place, does it hide something?
All murals hide something
And it’s hard for us to understand some tbh 😂
But that one specifically I’m interested in, bc that main temple isn’t the forest temple, those boats are carrying pots of light to another temple. One that looks bigger and appears to have 3 buildings around it. Those 3 buildings look like small forest temples as if there were 3 diamond press factories
And the big one, well I’m not entirely sure if this is accurate but it seemed to look like this building
what do yall think of the megabird 
In eye of Eden, I can lift up a crab in tunnel after avoid krill in tower, what mission can be in there?
@desert sun there’s a lot of detail about that, it’s hard to explain bc it’s an old concept and we don’t even kno if it’s in game or not. And the concept of the megabird has been changing overtime. But the idea is that it’s a large entity of light that gives life and rebirth. Connection to the megabird means connection to light. Also there was one concept that said the megabird is what sent the skykids
ive seen people say that its in game though, ive asked bc ive heard so many differing opinions over it but the deity one seems to be the most prominent
Who said it’s in game?
Well whoever said it, they have no proof that it’s current canon
Right now it’s jus “possible”
It's not canonically proven to be in game
there's glimpses of what could be the megabird
yes yes ^^ thats probably what i saw
I personally think it's the megabird, but it's not confirmed (yet)
this one?
ya ya ive seen that!! so cool
@frail moat since this isnt related to lore, can you delete and repost that in #screenshots-and-videos with a spoiler tag?
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So uh, from what I've gathered from playing this game...Did everyone in this world die?!?And everyone is a spirit, and only the skykids are left?!
^ thats what i assumed but im not so sure myself
i mean if everyone died then why are animals still alive and movin
I mean the humans
humans? the spirits?
Yeah
yea thats what im talkin about
idk if theyre "dead" or not bc theres still life on the planet
idk what could kill off an entire civilization and not the plant and animal life
Maybe the corruption from those plants?
I think that caused them to get lost in the first place
a virus type deal, you think?
Yeah, covid 19 style
😎 haha imagine
hehe...jk...unless?
yeah but a corruption is probably the best bet for figuring out what happened to everyone
unless theres a lore i dont know
Also, what's the deal with the elders?
Well if u want me to get all lore crazy on the eden explosion I can but
Yes the people are dead, Thas why they are spirits
Where they like...the leaders from their respective realms?
(also Valley Elders are the best)
pls Jay go lore crazy
Pls
The elders were the “stars” that the intro talked about
They fell from their home and each built a new home in the clouds where the ppl were
So you sayin
That the valley elders just built a gigantic sports plaza
To live in
Dude no wonder they're the best
So they're kinda...ascended children of light?
id like to hear them 
there are some fan theories pinned in this channel
you can also try to backread this channel 
This somehow managed to be more confusing than Kirby Lore
nothing compares to kirby lore

Now let me say this, since sky is a dream like world, what if Sky is actually our dreams and we are simply playing through the dreams we cannot remember at night?
the only place i know is a dream sequence is vault
the others feel too lively to be a dream
isnt it not confirmed whether its directly a dream or real
most of our "lore" is speculating based on concept art and/or vague hints from the game haha
we know (almost) nothing
I have had many vivid dreams myself that I remember, and a lot of them have been in more lively places.
same
we know almost nothing, and that is okay
imo the game being a dream doesn’t make sense compared to the journey and sky relation theory ekdhdjdb
all that creation and destruction just to end up a dream after the kingdom was in ruins for millenia
The pins made me learn a lot of things actually
Confirmed lore is usually words from devys and live-streams, and not all of them are on YouTube sadly
yeah i can relate with the pins
learned a lot more about sky than i thought i would
I was thinking with the dream thing, maybe the kingdom fell after people stopped having those vivid dreams, and we are the next generation that awoken this hidden part of ourselves.
Ik I say this a lot but
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE LINK TO THE LIVESTREAM ABOUT THE ELDERS WITH REIKA IN IT 
I wish i did
I don’t think it was ever uploaded to YouTube, and the livestreams aren’t available in twitch anymore 😔
Hello there
I believe theres plans to upload them eventually! Theres just been a lot to do in prep for new seasons and android launch 👀
However! The japanese streams are still up on tgcs japan youtube!
oooooo
anyone kno how to translate Japanese 👀
I think theres been some fan translations of what was said so you can still get info even without speaking japanese 😄
If i find them, i’ll share! Theres some nice art on the streams in any case
Def take a look then!
Theres some sweet lightseekers concepts in the first japanese livestream
😮
i havent been very activ
Someone have any idea of whats the exact purpose of the Vault, and why the ghost mantas and the big sea pickle boi exist?
vault represents old age and enlightenment hence the knowledge part and the magical feel
the sea pickle boi looks like one of the concept arts whales
He kinda stupid doe
going on concepts and live-streams
The vault is meant to hold knowledge and memories of the past, it’s also meant to give the skykids knowledge and prepare them before they go through the “brutality” of eden
Everytime I play through Vault he takes at least 5 minutes of shaking and clipping to reach us
he doesn't have a brain, give him a break 
But he has a big heart
going on concepts and live-streams
The vault is meant to hold knowledge and memories of the past, it’s also meant to give the skykids knowledge and prepare them before they go through the “brutality” of eden
@sly kestrel
Yah but
Got those words from a dev
In the context of the kingdom the Elders built
Would It be some sort of place where they keep the memories of the place they came from?
Before u die
You look back at ur past right, u look back at everything that happened
Well the kingdoms represent the stages of life and vault being the semi last stage is basically old age and enlightenment
And vault was built after wasteland
I want the lore explanation
ok b specific which part u want explanation
lore is our interpretation. theres quite literally no canon explanation to what vault really is. devs are vague
so ur saying they lied 
ik what you mean
Thas what I was thinking
Give him multiple choice 😂
Why would the Elders want to built the vault
Oh?
they want to leave something behnd for future generations
Also their civilization was about to go extinct
look at wasteland theres nothing there. its pretty barren and scary with a history no one really knows
so they built a massive vault of knowledge for future generations to look into
I wonder if each of those bottles of light holds different information and if there are millions of stories in there
except we cant really access them 
but we can’t access those, only the ones relevant to our mission
look at wasteland theres nothing there. its pretty barren and scary with a history no one really knows
@spring blaze
My interpretation is that they were fighting the freak failed experiments with corruption
it could be like a library but with light hologram bottles instead of books
Not just the krill, but other things
one of my theories states that the builders of vault knew skykids were coming later so they built the vault in a way to pass down knowledge to skykids
Like how else would they kno that a bunch of kids are going to come see it later to save a bunch of elders
i always go with civil war but the weapons makes no sense. but im set that idont think its the krills they fought
so we're basically the jesus in the sky kingdom
No, they were a single kingdom
so we're basically the jesus in the sky kingdom
@spring blaze
*Jesuses
Golden wasteland holds a lot of story wdym...
yes all realms are in one kingdom
Tiny, stupid, and fashionable jesuses
Ahh I remember our lil civil war theory
wasteland holds a lot of story, but it still seems like the vast majority of its history is forgotten
i dont lol
Forgotten bc there’s no one to tell stories besides a bunch of lanterns at vault
And we can’t even ACESS THEM
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I was jus about to say that
I’m too slow 😔
it's ok
game mechanics wise we cant due to game reasons. but lore wise, i like to think we cant access the vault lanterns because our sky kids dont know what they are/how to do it
Even if it’s spoiler tagged, u can’t talk about it
we have to keep it in beta channels or people will click the tag thinking it's just eden spoilers or something
Ugh I gotta wait a whole week to talk about it
Yep
i know it's hard to wait
Fine I'll delete it
Hello Yue, u have been typing for a while
thank you for understanding
I have a feeling a 10 page essay is coming
Oh god no
The thing is.. There is no full story.. Tgc just made a few pieces of story so the game could be played.. The "mistery thing and make your own interpretation" are just excuses for a story that doesn't exist.
the vault almost feels like the library of alexandria. but it's worse since the knowledge is there and we just can't read
oh YES
oh
Well, still, thanks
That
no stories exist lol. story is fictional by definition
I needed some insight to write my fanfic
There is definitely a story, just because they don’t tell you outright doesn’t mean there’s not a narrative going on in the game
it’s like an impressionist painting, you fill in the gaps yourself
Guess I'll have to make up a lot of things
If you played other tgc games they handle storytelling the same way
I was expecting a full on theory, but instead it was the opposite
That’s what I do until the lore pieces are filled
Everything in this game has a reason
--Journey is kinda similar to sky if you think about it--
someone said the shipwreck in the wasteland looks foreign, is there a good pic of it showing why?
Related but not lore related
As ash stated earlier the reason why crabs are the way the are is because they are supposed to be based on something else
ye
They are mimicking something he said
yes
whos the crankiest elder
forest
ye forest aunt
Ash is a girl
There is definitely a story, just because they don’t tell you outright doesn’t mean there’s not a narrative going on in the game
@wind bone just see how they based sky on journey. Its like a copy, but with a "different adapted story".
theyre mimiking forest elder
... are they not mimicking krill
......omg, ASH I AM SO SORRY
You know tgc made journey too right
It’s not only journey they have this type of story telling in
sky is not based off of journey. theres similarities yes but theyre not the same story
It’s also in flower
sky is journey's spiritual sucessor
Sky was originally supposed to be a cloud sequel but ended up having elements of all past tgc games
i wonder if we could look to cloud for hints of this games lore
Maybe some motives for designs but thas it
cloud was based on Jenova's personal experiences, and was made before TGC even formed
lore-connections probably wouldn't be strong
Like journey’s guardians helped make the design and mechanic for krill
Hot take: Orbit is the Elders's homeland
this is what sky looked like in development
amazing
Beautiful.
Beautiful
Ah yes
yeah
And we have to bring them back
And got exiled
@wind bone
I think they fled rather then exiled
Fun fact in Japanese orbit is called original sin
ye
No the intro says they were kicked out
by da darkness
who kicked 
makes u wonder why theres no darkness in orbit
I’m confused about that actually
Where their homeland is, bc orbit is basically the ascension to a new life or a new beginning. And as u can see in orbit, everything is heading towards the light
my brother downloaded sky and it said like they fell due to darkness??
dude the intro is like berenstein vs berenstain
Oh the old version said they were cast out
pins has the intro if u wanna rewatch
They caused their own downfall
fell to temptation
nom
brain hurt
and that's why there's no fruit in sky
Actual hot take:
The krill are products of the Eden storm
Now all i have to eat are corrupted rocks
ew rocks
eat darkness plant
They ate the apple
@wind bone
Omg SKY=BIBLE CONFIRMED?!?!
eat sand
cronchy
darkness plant will give you constipation
Yeah the level being called original sin in Japanese is basically the nail in the coffin
yes our poo is candles
Idek what I’m reading anymore
Eden is the garden of eden
yes
But not exactly as in the Bible ofc
inspired
it prolly looked really nice before things happened
they had a buildings and everything
i like how u can see the moon from eden
probably in the world
you can see the moon like in wasteland too i think????
idk if my memory's right though
maybe through one of the holes in the clouds
that is actually sick
it's a nice moon
why it so big
I love that moon
fat moon
best moon
Thicc moon
what are we doing
Which area of wasteland is that? Shipwreck?
I have a different moon
wha-
??
new theory; there are multiple moons i dont take opinions
hot take: sky is on jupiter
hot take: Sky is a mobile game and all of it is a simulation to make us addicted to buying cosmetics
crab fields is the place that usually gets called shipwreck isn't it?
you're saying we skykids live in a simulation???
We live in a society
i think crab fields is the first area???
Also forest elder body pillow when tgc
Yes
which has more crabs, in front of the temple or at the shipwreck?
The shipwreck definitely
shipwreck
They’re everywhere
definitely
i guess i misread Ktjn the other day
They’re even on the pipes lol
adventurous crab
they do be schmoovin
The ones in vault are
hmm
not the spirits we relieve
wha t
the spirit mantas seem alive
The ones in vault are literally called spirit mantas
Dead
There are bones everywhere
i mean they're dead
You get a spirit manta call by lighting candles by a corpse
even the jellies are dead?
well yeah that makes sense
they're ghosts
cus theres jellies under the ice rink and i think they like froze over or something
the ones in forest too ?
They’re just like thwt
Jellies are just transparent
there aren’t any spirit jellies?
Hey guys what’s the story or sky?
true theyre just transparent
jellies are immortal??
pretty much??
I don’t think so they’re just not dead
@mellow otter check pins !
i mean theyre brainless sea bags so they can live for longk time
Jellyfish are kinda creepy when you think about it
i think turtles eat jellies no?
Only certain kinds
they do
oh
also like do the rhythm spirits live in the sky kingdom or in another place..????
maybe they just don’t bother keeping ghost food around in the vault
Thxx
I think they live in the kingdom
At least to me
What we see
Is only a small part of the kingdom
yeah
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