beta-discussion

[lyric kite]

Shared spaces are kind of completely irrelevant to the actual game, you're not required to use them if you don't want to. But since TGC put in the effort to develop it, I think that's why we keep getting a lot of random prop items that don't really do anything because they want people to use the shared spaces even though a lot of people don't really care about it lol

[hollow compass]

I think shared spaces came about because players wanted to have more things to do together and just hang out, play music, chat. But TGC's solution doesn't really offer that. Shared spaces seem to have become more art installations than anything else.

[narrow lake]

also once you've used a space and placed things how you want them, it kind of becomes obsolete? what else is there to do with it except rearrange it every so often

[minor falcon]

I'm really glad shared space props got actual back props now, especially the tube

[spark lance]

kind of off topic but I kind of like the props a lot because as someone who likes messing around with strangers in social areas, you can do a lot of things with it (like place an umbrella for sleeping people, put flower pots on table etc)
I don't really touch shared space because it's like kind of away from where everyone else is at
I have seen some impressive shared space stuff but thats kind of it
I kind of assumed that shared spaces became a thing because so many people were asking for a way to create their own houses or something along the lines

[olive wolf]

Really off topic but is the penguin in the village theater still there after the season's over?

[rugged kayak]

i don't see why it wouldn't be, it's a fun oob easter egg

[split dawn]

So grateful chibi fall is a glitch TGC decided to protect

[gilded parrot]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @mystic jay. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[hybrid obsidian]

Can someone tell me when beta days of summer will be? Or has it already passed? I’ve been in since performance and I havnt seen the elusive umbrella yet

[autumn elk]

it hasnt passed yet, we dont know when it will be tested but its safe to assume relatively soon

[hybrid obsidian]

Ok thanks soo much

[rugged kayak]

performance is ending today and all i can do is worry about shattering 😣

[iron elbow]

what if the days of rainbow update will also include shattering stuff, including crawling?
live players are not ready

[queen breach]

Is the elders buff still a thing?
Thanks!

[agile hazel]

I'm 99% certain it will, don't see 0.18.0 being split up this late.

[iron elbow]

happy pride month, enjoy new ways to suffer

[raw wasp]

Honestly if they just increased the shared spaces item limit i’d be much more likely to use them. Its a really cool idea but like you. Can’t even make anything cool with it in this state 💀also better ts props would be great… the current direction we’ve been going in is AWFUL, and i’d really really like them to try and put more effort into the props like they had when they first started having TS carry props. Or more effort. I get they have other stuff to work on but like the props should actually be worth buying as props, not just closet filling space or as a back prop😭

[sterile cobalt]

i honestly have been really hoping recent ts would have props, i like them
and i want the ball spell to be a ball prop, ever single other prop spell is an item you can have so ehy not the ballllllll it would be so fun

[fleet ruin]

Would it be too on the nose to have a crawling sky kid statue prop?

[visual temple]

Unpopular opinion: Shared spaces and such are a distraction. While TGC was so busy tweaking them and trying to convince everyone how cool they were, their game was crumbling down and they didn’t even notice that it was driving players away. What we truly need is a stable game. Game breaking bugs should not be allowed to make it live. If a feature isn’t ready, then it isn’t. Do not announce it with a deadline unless you know it works.

[remote flame]

how much can we type in the feedback channel? because i wrote a lot of feedback but im not sure it will all send in one message 😅 gonna copy paste it lol

[carmine thorn]

I have sent text files in #beta-feedback before due to the feedback being over the character limit. If they read it is unknown to me, though.

[maiden pond]

Honestly, I'm gonna give my piece of advice from another company I deeply admire besides TGC that I think TGC should follow in some form when it comes to delivering and presentation of the finished product to its players, beta players will get the rough idea of it but here's what company I'm referring to: Hinterland.

Hinterland made one of the most underrated phenomenal survival games out there that, much like Sky, doesn't get as much attention as it deserves. That game is called The Long Dark. The thing about the devs working on The Long Dark is that they go above and beyond to deliver their finished product. That means as their game is right now, the story mode is still in development (I highly recommend watching the story, it's so good I can't even put it in words, similar to The Forest, but in my opinion so much better.) However, they recently released the 4th episode out of the 5 they plan to release for its story mode, "Wintermute". The thing about this is that this episode was in development for at least a couple of years or more, and the finished product is very satisfying, because they put so much time and effort into it. I'm not saying TGC isn't putting any time or effort into their products, I'm more so pointing out that the players won't mind a delayed product at all because in turn this usually means a higher and more satisfying reward for the devs and players, it's a win-win situation, the devs enjoy the fruits of their work, and the players overall give mostly positive feedback.

The devs of Sky made a phenomenal game, I absolutely love what they did here, but I'm just giving them advice that their most loyal players will not mind delays, BOTW 2 got delayed to 2023, as long as you provide sneak peeks of what's to come, that alone will keep players interested and hungry for what's to come. So many people will analyze your work and try to solve it, and it's fun to tell them to WAFO. Then after at least a month or more, you deliver the product. It's better than what the devs could imagine, and the players are filled with happiness, everyone wins here. There's no shame at all in delaying products, scheduling them for release is okay, but if problems arise, then by all means let the playerbase know, and give them tidbits of info.

[opaque cipher]

The season isn't a season yet, but TGC knows a lot of their funding comes from seasonal passes, so I think they are rushing their development so they don't lose money. I hope that TGC will find other ways to get funding so that the games doesn't suffer.

[maiden pond]

Yeah, I'm just speaking for the people who think the season is incomplete as it is with the few weeks left of testing, and I'm offering my viewpoint on what I think TGC could follow, unless they've been planning something we don't know.

[deep cloud]

Has anyone figured out when and where the mountain explodes?

[north halo]

i wonder how this seasonal quests (or more towards an event) going to played out after the season ends?

[coral cosmos]

where it explodes depends on the day, the shard is always found within the realm dailies are in. the shards appear somewhere throughout the realm - i don't know if there are schedules that it follows.
in beta, eden erupts every half an hour at xx:00 and xx:30 (though this is for testing purposes and may be changed to be less frequent in live) and shards appear around eight minutes after the eruption, at xx:08 and xx:38

[shy ore]

TIP: Seeing the dark shard particles on the portal is the location of falling shard event

[deep cloud]

I was going to just enjoy seeing Eden explode, not find the shard, and I didn’t see it explode in a few places I visited

[coral cosmos]

oh the eruption is seen in every realm starting at xx:00 and xx:30

[glass spoke]

sometimes not, depends on how eden is feeling lol

[shy ore]

Just watch the Eden on the right time in 7-8 min. to see the Eden explode so wear ur glasses. /jk

[deep cloud]

Not everywhere apparently

[oblique gyro]

it’s a bit bipolar sometimes

[brazen gorge]

Does anyone else think this season is overall confusing?? Like unless I went to discord, I wouldn’t understand the rules for Eden eruptions at all. I did the first 2 weeks without help from discord and found it to be extremely confusing. I had no idea when eruptions were and where, partly because shards would come 8 minutes later. Idk the whole thing has just been a guessing game for me

[lucid shale]

hi

[crisp thorn]

Not sure where to ask this question but this is my main focus of attractions. Every channel or go to topic in my Discord is cut in half so.. it’s hard to read. Yes I’ve updated everything.. don’t know How to fixit or what else to do?

Forgive me Siri doesn’t understand my southern English

[crisp thorn]

I’ve talked to several friends that have been in beta for 2+ years and we still don’t understand it.

[untold flame]

hey all, just wanted to see whether everyone online rn feels that there’s any fleeting chance of the crawl and one-hit light drainage features being removed? i’d appreciate if you guys reacted with 👍 for yes and 👎 for no

[spark lance]

👍 is what i want, 👎 is what i suspect

[terse flame]

This season is hell because i have no one to help me with the crystals

[crisp thorn]

I would rather have the option to navigate a shard event as opposed to going to Eden and losing my entire wing light and then having to scour all the realms to regain them.

Wasn’t this supposed to be a social experience with people all over the world?

[spark lance]

TGC forgot there are some ppl who are a bit obsessed abt their wing counts. Yes we might not need to lose all wings now. But if we lost some while doing shard, we still need to look at all wing places to find the missing WL. -___- believe me i play with some ppl who are like this. Getting accidentally krilled will get you in big trouble with them

Problems if you play with this kind of peeps, they'll stay on the far & safe spot, do not want to risk losing their WL & they wouldn't help

[crisp thorn]

I’m to the point I would rather spend my day visiting with friends. Or helping new players

[carmine thorn]

As someone who has enough wing buffs to not worry about a full wlr, I'd still prefer Eden over these shards where 50,000 crabs gang up on you and keep you from doing anything in those events. (Okay, slight exaggeration, but I counted 6 taking turns kicking the crap out of my skykid two days ago)

[crisp thorn]

I totally see both sides of it. I learned early how to avoid the red rock crabs.

[oak remnant]

I think the shards give a good source for petty cash when it comes to AC. It's not as time consuming as eden, so I would say that it's useful for people who have limited time to play and just need a couple ACs for, let say, getting ts wing buff

[carmine thorn]

Avoiding one to three is doable if you're paying enough attention, but 6 cycling their attacks from multiple sides is a bit stressful to keep track of.

[crisp thorn]

@carmine thorn i’m not disagreeing with you I totally understand. Losing a few wing light it’s not a problem For me it may be for other players. I hate loosing wI hate recapturing all the wing lot I’ve lost that’s just me. No one else just me.

[carmine thorn]

Oh, IDC about losing winged light, what I care about is being stun locked by 6 NPCs cycling their attacks on me for minutes at a time.

[crisp thorn]

@carmine thorn sorry I haven’t experienced that yet I always try to avoid those little creepers 🦀 lol

[carmine thorn]

I hope no one experiences that in live, but I'm sure it will happen to multiple players.

[crisp thorn]

Also I’m not saying get rid of it or do away with it it’s just an option in the game if you want to get ac without going to Eden

Risk=reward in both scenarios

[brazen gorge]

Yep about 6-9ish demon crabs at belonging area and little prince ship

[spark lance]

There's also PoV/perspective problem when you try to help strangers while clearing the shards. Sometimes their PoV of the crabs whereabouts are different than mine. I keep seeing some people getting thrown about by invisible thingy. I thought i lured the crab somewhere else but maybe it isn't like that in their PoV

[oak remnant]

I was about to say this! It makes helping them more difficult

[maiden pond]

As I'm writing this, I found a way to kinda experience and train myself for the next season, here's my routine in preparation for Season of Shattering:

-Go to Golden Wasteland, nearby where all the dark crabs are and do a medium call but not enough to flip them over to instantly charge you, if you're both on same terrain. This probably can be used to lure the crabs onto myself and I'm dodging all the crabs I possibly can.

-Going to Eden and taking the route on foot, daily. Making sure I don't get hurt at all. I once got hurt and lost my light and I pictured myself as downed, so I used instant recharge potion as quickly as possible and reclaimed my winged lights before they shattered.

-Avoided the Dark Dragons as much as I possibly could, but really, this is a standard tip everyone should know.

[crisp thorn]

At this point I don’t know if it’s a server problem or a device problem but I’ve experienced both with the shard events. Even with friends

[maiden pond]

Also, I noticed crabs in live do actually bonk into the light inside broken temple and break that.

[crisp thorn]

However I do like the butterflies in golden wasteland. Usually a solo player. I’ve noticed them in other areas, too.

[oak remnant]

Yes they are so helpful in wasteland, but I have a mixed feeling with them around the shipwreck 😂 whenever I was about to knock the crabs from deep call I will ended up floating because of the butterflies

[crisp thorn]

Haha Accept the good! 👍🏻

[floral crystal]

So like
Will the daily Shards become a permanent thing like the sunset event?

[crisp thorn]

Who knows? It’s BETA. Good night or good morning. Sweet dreams or have a great day! 🥰😘

[vagrant fable]

They're supposed to be a permanent feature, but probably not gonna be as frequent in live as in beta

[floral crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sweat-mrs-puff-oh-neptune-massive-sweating-gif-4349604

[fleet ruin]

I feel like with shard events, it’ll be like PE dodgeball. Some guys are going to have to go in the front and get pelted for the good of the group.

Not sure if that’s a bad thing or if it’s gonna be hilarious since everyone’s sharing in the pain equally

[floral crystal]

Welp, guess I gotta learn how to parkour in Sky to avoid the crabs
If my skid will stay out the freakin butter and stop sliding everywhere

[spark lance]

Guys is there wl in next season...like sanctuary and abyss had wl s seasonal?

[agile hazel]

There's 3

[spark lance]

Ommmo yayyyyyy thnku so much 😭

[solid dune]

I haven’t had the mental capacity to keep up with beta updates lately so idk if it’s changed but is the Eden eruption event still every 30 minutes

[raw wasp]

Oh my god
Some jerk in vault decided to oob into the 2nd floor’s room literally RIGHT in front of us. When there were exactly four of us.
And it happened in beta too which makes it worse cus usually opening those doors was a rlly pleasant surprise

[raw wasp]

Yes but that duration doesn’t necessarily reflect how it will be in Live

[solid dune]

I’m fine with how much it happens, I love watching it

[raw wasp]

Fair enough! I kinda wish it would only happen if we enabled the shard events or something though… augh i just wanna chill in a specific area sometimes yk

[narrow lake]

I think I might be done with sky after days of rainbow 😔

it's been a fun 2 years but I dont recognise sky anymore, I'm sorry

[oak remnant]

I remember just lying down in butterfly field to take a breather from work. Not knowing that it's the spot for shards to fall. I didn't check skycord at that day. Long story short it was not a good breather

[old carbon]

Blessed art thou the veterans whom no need to venture eden no more

[full trellis]

does anyone know where the shard is today

[spark lance]

ark

[full trellis]

ty❤️‍🩹

[hollow compass]

I wish I could be reassuring here, but I can count on one hand the times that TGC has scrapped or delayed something. I really don't think there is more room for them to push Shattering's release forward and I don't think there is much more to this season than what we have seen. The blog post did say it would not seem like a season at all, which is exactly how it feels.

[dreamy grail]

You mean for login for beta?

[stone rain]

log in for global

[carmine thorn]

Please do not discuss emulators in this server. It's against the game's terms of service to use one.

[gilded parrot]

Using emulators is against the Sky TOS, @carmine thorn. Please don’t use or discuss emulators here.

[stone rain]

lel ok

[dreamy grail]

It's not a laughing matter, you can actually be banned for that, as it's illegitimate play

Well done in exposing yourself

[spark lance]

live player here

is tgc really gonna remove honk restore in live? (aka you honk and someone recharges their light)
or is this just a beta thing for now and subject to change

[rugged kayak]

only if they're fully extinguished you can't honk to recharge
if they're just simply low on flaps you can still honk to recharge, but yeah when someone's fully extinguished you need to use your candle or any light source

[agile hazel]

I actually thought it was always the case in Live that extinguished players couldn't be recharged with honking

[zinc mauve]

Is it just me or does the new season lacks cutscenes except for the introduction?

[woeful obsidian]

This season isn't like other seasons.

[zinc mauve]

Well, yes but i think it lacks "something"

[agile hazel]

It lacks a lot of things

[woeful obsidian]

It's just a intruduce for a new ac system.

[carmine thorn]

To be fair, Abyss introduced swimming and it had more "content" than this season. All we got this season was some rocks, small lighting changes to current areas and angry, angry crabs.

[zinc mauve]

Yes, thats helpful so you dont have to sacrifice all your lights but
The frozen memories:
They're pretty much just "3d pictures" that you can explore
Now dont get me wrong, they're cool. But i think we needed more of
these frozen memories to better understand the lore that sky has. Also
Tgc said that they will focus more on the lore. But i all we got is just a
Small part of the lore that sky has.

(Sorry for the rant)

[zinc mauve]

Oh and also we need an answer to why forest elder wasn't in the last memory

[woeful obsidian]

I know what you mean. But I think tgc wanted that everyone can Find out the lore by yourself. Everyone has an other way of thinking.. Its like a open ending.

[woeful obsidian]

She got curupted and became the "king"? Maybe.

[zinc mauve]

Yeah, I get it. But that kind of beats the "focusing more on the lore" that tgc said

[steep glade]

I'm okay with some of the things. Like even though it's "horrible and scary" it's also beautiful at the same time. I absolutely love the explosions, but seriously miss the big BOOM sound it used to have, to the point that it's a let down. I love the Memories, I think they are stunning, but wish we had more explanations with everything, more Lore in general.
I'm also concerned about how this will affect the game once it's a permanent part of the game, if that's what they are doing. Some of it is awfully rough for such a peaceful game. I like more Darkness, but not at the expense of my life/wings.

......also I still can't relive the Memories, is that happening to everyone, just me, or is it supposed to be that way?

Sorry for the long post

[steady pond]

live says season starts in 2 weeks so that sure is reassuring /s

[agile hazel]

It's definitely not at all, no time for any major changes

[spark lance]

The season starts in 13 days, oh dear God... This season still needs so much more polishing how the damn does TGC want to finish this in time

[zenith mist]

how do they say the season is starting in 13 days when everyone wants it to be delayed?? i cant believe things are just going on as normal with the terrible reaction shattering has had. im so.. not excited for the next season

[spark lance]

TGC logic, doesn't make sense. They want to put in a little effort as possible

[steady pond]

the last hope we have is for the 1.8.0 live patch for DoR to update the days left to shattering so it'd be longer, but delays don't seem likely

[zenith mist]

shattering sucks. i think ive stated my reasons for thinking so enough to just say, shattering is an awful season. watching this disaster unfold has pretty much made me lose all motivation to play sky. unless theres something we're missing, i have no idea why they think this poor excuse of a season should go to live

[minor falcon]

no more 0.18.0 builds for us then

[glass spoke]

thanks for saying this!

[spark lance]

Honestly sometimes I asking myself what's the point of Beta if they barely listen to our feedback anyway. So many bugs in Beta have been transported to live despite of your feedback and every new update both in Live and Beta fixes a few older bugs but brings in new bugs like the missing WL in GW Crabfields, the kids not bowing down to burn darkness in shallow water or even the slow walking in bugged Eden. And even despite of the feedback in Beta about said bugs, they never bothered to fix these bugs until 2-3 updates later. Seriously TGC?

[chrome ferry]

i swear, ive been saying this for months. there are things TGC has no intention of fixing/altering, and they have certain things that they specifically design expecting there to be backlash so that they can change it and then say "look, we listened to your feedback!" literally every single season we get this.
more than once there have been game-breaking bugs for switch and especially android, which have been very clearly demonstrated in beta, that never got fixed because they supposedly werent severe or widespread enough. when the update goes live and suddenly a solid third of your playerbase cant play and wont get compensation for any missed time with the pass that they paid for, suddenly we cant criticise TGC because "oh, theyre a small indie company" and "oh, they have better things to worry about!"

it makes me so tired.

[steady flume]

I kinda doubt they can change too much about a season once it's out in beta. sure cosmetics can be changed/adjusted, but it seems to me that once the testing starts the season is already in one of the final stages, so the base can't be changed anymore. so yeah that might be a reason why our feedback feels unheard

[spark lance]

I'm really excited for the new season

[chrome ferry]

not really. see assembly cosmetic changes and little prince IAPs

[spark lance]

Exactly! See? This is why TGC arent good developers. Seriously the excuse of "We are a small indie company" gets so lame now. It makes me sick.

[steady flume]

not saying that to defend tgc btw - I think it would be way better of them if they started testing earlier, so that our feedback actually does something

[spark lance]

I know why this season is called "Season of Shattering"

Because it's shattering your hopes that this season will be good, it shatters your belief that TGC are good developers and it shatters your desire to play Sky

[agile hazel]

I understand there may be a lot of things that hinder progress/change but none of that is communicated with us. So we'll just assume the worst

[zenith mist]

i dont even know how something like the holes in sanct got through, or fire trial being broken for months. or the bug that gave chibis creepy eyes and put bald patches on tall players, which had been fixed for a pretty long time in beta, but somehow still made it to live for only switch players

[chrome ferry]

like, its great and all that we get to have a public beta, but theres no point to it if a build with bugs that break the entire game make it to the live version. bet if an IAP shop bug somehow got through internal testing, it wouldnt survive a single build in public beta

[agile hazel]

Well I mean that's one of the few things that makes sense ngl

[zenith mist]

forgot internal testing simply does not exist for switch i guess

[chrome ferry]

i highly doubt that. there isnt a public beta. that doesnt mean there isnt a developer kit

[quick harbor]

Wasn't the new part that they added to Days of Rainbow not tested, since they delayed it? It will probably have a few bugs, let's just hope none are severe

[steady pond]

as frustrating as it is i cant blame the lack of public beta for switch on TGC because that means builds would have to go through nintendo and god knows how that'd work out lol

[zenith mist]

ill just remember tgcs famous advice for what to do when theres a switch bug: just play on mobile

[chrome ferry]

lmao i forgot about that one. what a joke.

[steady pond]

im not defending TGC cuz i have my own gripes with them but theres also the issue where like. bugs that do not exist in beta will just happen in live because theres way more players in live so the probability of it happening is higher. it cant be helped but by god do i wish fixes were speedier in that case lol

[quick harbor]

What the ...

[coral cosmos]

it's not to say feedback goes completely unheard — recall days of rainbow and how it had to go to a second phase of testing. the first iteration was lackluster and boring, and the second iteration felt more lively. feedback is definitely being read, it's just a matter of what they elect to change and what is left on the cutting room floor.
the big issue is how, no matter how outspoken we are against an idea collectively, that the majority of us will send in our opinions both here and in feedback, is how a lot of it doesn't feel respected, i guess is a word for it. i remember when the triumph instruments hit the music shop, this chat was very lively with a lot of people discussing just how bad of an idea it was to have $20 IAP instruments. and instead of listening to our feedback and either lowering the prices a lot or just plain removing it, they upped the prices and implemented them to the game anyway.
they tell us to leave feedback in the channel but in the end no matter how much feedback we give, it doesn't seem to matter in the end.

[agile hazel]

Rainbow is still lackluster, they just added some sparkles and called it done

[chrome ferry]

oh for sure, TGC does read the feedback to some degree. its just that we have to raise a real stink to get anything done.

see the beta TLP launch and IAP outrage

[iron elbow]

seeing people bond with the performance guide so much really makes me wonder what live folks will think of the rhombus and the blobs gang

[zenith mist]

rainbow still feels pretty low effort honestly. feels like everyone kind of just gave up on it, which is sad. yay theres jellyfish and the spirits emote or something.. what fun

[quick harbor]

I guess it's better than last year at least....

It is the second time days of rainbow appears on sky. Last year, we got the cosmetics and the candle caked in every realm

[chrome ferry]

same way they felt about the rose, except even less because theres no nostalgia factor to it

[iron elbow]

at least tlp had some interesting spirits and story to compensate

[spark lance]

agreed, like y cant we just get spirits with emotes

[spark lance]

I just wish there was more newer cosmetics that u can buy with candles

[uneven gale]

maybe they've should've moved DoR to daylight prairie's social area (like days of bloom with forest): a few rainbows here and there that dropped light and maybe various spirits moving around doing emotes and such?

[chrome ferry]

i do agree with not having any more emotes, personally. idk what they would even add at this point, and the menu is getting pretttttty clogged
but come on, you dont spend time adding emotes or even actual spirits with models or anything, we get orbs with nodes that cost two weeks worth of SC

[steady flume]

i think the biggest issue is the rate at which tgc wants to release seasons and events. they're all back to back with almost no breaks between them. i personally wouldn't mind if they took some time, so that we could keep testing, our feedback can be heard and we can catch up on the numerous bugs that have been around for months

[coral cosmos]

yeah agreed. with tlp, the rose had personality and a story with it, this shard is just. a diamond. there's no connection with this season at all, it feels really disconnected with past seasons
off topic sorry feel free to ignore this, but is your icon giant's deep from outer wilds?

[alpine field]

You know what will be good? At least three weeks or even a month’s break between seasons

[iron elbow]

dor isn't that bad imo, it has as much celebration stuff as days of love, for example
but that's such a downgrade from days of nature, my god-

[uneven gale]

agree !
everytime there's a season going on im always afraid of not collecting candles. i kind of need to recover from all that anxiety yk? 😬

[zenith mist]

days of love wasnt a pride event with charity items though (plus it kind of went hand and hand w fortune)

[steady pond]

lol
#beta-discussion message
#beta-discussion message

[steady flume]

it seems like instead of taking breaks between seasons, tgc just made the seasons themselves last longer. i don't have numbers but it definitely feels like it

[graceful sonnet]

Hi

[iron elbow]

btw was there any info about what charities tgc will donate to?

[steady pond]

this exact "maybe tgc should have longer breaks so they can fix bugs" point has been said like 10000000000x by the community at this point. if you got a dollar every time someone said that you'd be rich tbh. and yet ... lol

[sick jetty]

ikrrr

imo at some point, it’d be pretty cool if spirits could give us props after reliving them,
like, a player could follow them to a place, where they for ex left a musical instrument laying around,, and after we could just pick it up

[glacial barn]

Very true - the public switch beta when it was running didn't even get updates because Nintendo wouldn't allow them. The first version was the only version, hence why switch beta stopped merging with mobile beta, they became incompatible due to being different versions. Time limit aside, that would have worn down participation on its own eventually due to the lack of change and improvement.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Nintendo really is stubborn regarding anything on their platform that they didn't create themselves.

[spark lance]

Hm no. From what I've read in their news article, they didn't specify which charity will receive the funds this year..

[alpine field]

It’s not even 2 pennies lol
Yeah i was thinking about the “if i could get a penny for how many times something is said, i’d get 2 pennies” meme, my bad for not being specific

[iron elbow]

please don't be like last year

[chrome ferry]

zem does have a point on this one. it is a point that is constantly repeated but is essentially just wishful thinking

[zenith mist]

i reread the blog post, i noticed that the beanie isnt being donated? i dont know if the beanie was a charity item last year, but considering the old nature items were being donated i think thatd make sense to do.. the only charity item is the double flowers. which are just last years charity item pasted twice, so i really cant see them being super popular. i mean, compare all of nature's charity items to rainbow's
(imo if i had last years flower i wouldnt buy the double flowers. i am broke lol)

[glass spoke]

tgc also didn't state who they're donating to this year so honestly

[pale junco]

Wax shard today?

[steady pond]

iirc last year something happened when they named the charity they were donating to so i guess they avoided it this time to not have a repeat of that situation? someone can correct me on this one, im muddy on the details

[iron elbow]

I guess all of that is a compromise with netease of some sort

[sinful surge]

Where is the darkness shard today? And whether it's a black one or red one.

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[chrome ferry]

i highly doubt that one too. netease seems to mostly do what they want

[iron elbow]

but weren't the donations to charities dropped last year cause they didn't approve of that?

[steady pond]

for which events ? 2021 DoR still had the flower that went to charity, netease just does things differently with their events

[chrome ferry]

there was confusion and controversy surrounding which charities TGC donated the days of rainbow money to last year

[alpine field]

Don’t they sometimes not reveal the charities until like the end of the event? Not too sure

[chrome ferry]

i didnt pay a ton of attention, but i believe they announced the charities in the same post they announced the date and then changed it later without saying anything
dont quote me on that, im not 100% sure

[coral cosmos]

yeah, days of rainbow ended june 27th in 2021, and the charities were announced june 28th, the day after the event concluded
it was mentioned on the blogpost announcement for DoR2021 that the charities would be announced after the event

[iron elbow]

excuse me, how is that okay-
imagine dor concluding and there's a problematic charity in the roaster
I guess it's okay with nature charities and stuff, most of them would probably not harm the environment, but lgbt+ charities are like an entirely different thing

[plush marsh]

Money moneyyyyyyyyyyyyy MONEYYY

They literally want us to buy a switch just to get a pack of things

[steady flume]

plus you deserve to know what charity you donate to before donating

[plush marsh]

Im sad for live players who don't play or saw the beta they'll think its gonna be amazing and lore everywhere but cough only a piece of lore

[steady flume]

this year's blogpost for dor says "charity efforts committed to diversity"

[coral cosmos]

it is sad that for our first eden-focused season we get. this. at least like, give us a full eden season before releasing new mechanics that overshadow everything else. i love sky's lore and theorizing, and an eden season could be everything i want and more. but instead we get breadcrumbs of lore within repetitive, monotonous quests that generally feel more like a chore than a fun activity that i look forward to doing. it's all just

[steady flume]

i personally don't mind the breadcrumb lore - it's always been that way and I don't think they'll ever just hand us a lore essay in-game. I get why most are upset though, what we got is very little
it's the repetitive quests that have no urgency or relevance whatsoever for me. "quick remove the shards!! why? oh just because"
there's not really a sense of danger, and removing the shards also doesn't save anything?

[quick harbor]

I was thinking about that too. + With the anni coming soon and days of summer all back to back, taking a break, making the break from seasons longer would be good. Maybe not for tgc's wallet, but at least they'd not be having the chance of loosing players due to the season. but then...some of the cosmetics this season, and the season itself, I wouldn't pay for it

[iron elbow]

I can already see live players waiting patiently for every new quest, hoping for something new and lore-heavy, only to have it all be the same quest and some dioramas
surely they can't ALL be about doing the shard, right?
and then they are

[vagrant jungle]

Gummy worm pants

[steady flume]

i would be okay with the normal shard quests in-between the seasonal quests (the ones that are just for getting AC outside of eden) being repetitive
but the 5 or so seasonal quests should each have had something unique to let them stand out

[iron elbow]

I would've been happy with a single quest cutscene, honestly

[plush marsh]

thought what will be the ideas after this season?

[quick harbor]

Well, back in prophecy, tgc said they already had seasons prepared for 2 years.

This season could've been in the works back in 2020

[coral cosmos]

oh yeah, sky lore is presented in an intentionally vague way to let the audience interpret and piece together and come to their own conclusions, i'm no stranger to delving into nothing and coming out with something, but this season had the potential to have way more that what it gave. of the six shard memories, only the last had any bit of information (and looks to be reused assets from light awaits at that). the rest aren't much of anything.
and yeah definitely agree on the shard thing — there's no real explanation of why they're there and why we have to burn them.

[steady flume]

whaaaat did you forget the extremely lore-heavy cutscene at the start of the season which was totally mentioned again later

[plush marsh]

Its nearly two years now just few more months..that means the ideas will finish ????! The ones they prepared

[languid bear]

I've been sending feedback from the first quest because of worrying about repeating the tedious melting of the darkness, but... In the end, they proceeded as they were

[iron elbow]

ikr!! I love the character arks of skykid_model_17 and skykid_model_5

[quick harbor]

Yeah, but of course, they might've been working on new ones. But speaking about the seasons that were planned prior to season of dreams launch, yes, they had 2 years of season and events material prepared. So we might already have events and materials that might've began work in 2021 and 2022

[plush marsh]

I JUST WANT A REST FOR ONCE LET THE REST BETWEEN THE SEADON BIGGER I BEG YOUR PARDON

[quick harbor]

I AINT A DEVELOPER 😂 😂

[plush marsh]

I know im just saying that more like to tgc but we sent alot og feedbacks yet no respones AND THE SEASON WILL START IN 13 DAYS

[iron elbow]

ONLY IF YOU AGREE TO BUY CANDLE PACKS EVERY WEEK 😤

[steady flume]

which isn't necessarily a bad thing imo. the season has some strong points, and even with no spirits or characters we could've gotten an amazing season. but shattering lacks a lot of other things beside spirits that contribute to the season being well-liked

[quick harbor]

What if we pull up to Tgc's HQ, and demand longer season break

[plush marsh]

thats a good idea season and events

[steady pond]

lack of spirits isnt the problem though, imo. the issue is the lack of cutscenes, lack of storytelling, lack of any attempt to emotionally attach the player to whats happening aside from "oh no these familiar places you know and love are getting bombed"

[quick harbor]

🚙 get in losers, were going to bully tgc /j

[steady pond]

im also likely in the minority of being sick of spirits so environmental storytelling like this is totally up my alley its just that they gave us nothing but a bunch of set pieces

[iron elbow]

lore chat could've been so happy for the final diorama, only if it wasn't reused from light awaits

[steady pond]

on the contrary, i think it'd still be discussed and celebrated cuz they brought back something from before, reused assets arent an issue tbh

[steady flume]

hhh my response disappeared
but yes I don't think a season without spirits is bad. It could've been great even. But telling a story without characters is a difficult feat, and shattering just lacks a lot of things to do so

[quick harbor]

Maybe for a special season, we can have old isle back. Give us the going up a mountain and then going by flying boat

A season where we go back in time

[steady pond]

yeah whatever they were trying to do just fell completely flat ... its kinda tragic

[languid bear]

Before reaching the final diorama... The previous dioramas are just floating creatures around in the void can't find meaningful thing

[iron elbow]

✨ nature ✨

[steady flume]

it would've been great if we saved creatures by removing the shards and burning the darkness, and then the memories show the creature stills
like if a jellyfish got stuck underneath a shard and we saved it my removing it, we'd get the jellyfish memory after that

[sullen relic]

It's not so much the reuse of the asset that bothers me as it is that there's no sense of mystery around it, because they just put it right in our faces this time at the end of the quest. Part of the appeal of its old depiction is that it was hidden far out of bounds in Light Awaits, so it felt like we were uncovering some kind of forgotten history or conspiracy -- the current presentation feels more like "hey look, cool thing that's meant to make you feel something" without the proper set up.

[coral cosmos]

there was still no buildup to the elder memory. it was like "look at these crabs! look at the jellyfish! hey something major happened with the eden shard, the prince, and the elders" just straight up went from 0 to 100 real fast

[steady pond]

turn back time to when we all thought we were gonna get cutscenes for shattering in a beta patch, please... 😔

[iron elbow]

my biggest concern rn is how well the "relive the quest" system will work/be explained in live upon release
cause I don't think even we know how to make it work 100% of the time

[spark lance]

My opinion is that IF TGC wants to get more players and doesn't want old players to leave the game, then they must do something new like creating some secret places for folks, hidden quests. I really glad that they make us players another way to get AC instead of sarcifiring our stars for Eden lmao, I hope that they would make this season's quests mechanic more abundant instead of just burning Eden sharp every single resets. Like
They could make a quest of hiding from the krills to save the weak star child in the middle of the maps or something like collecting forbidden memories scattered on every places of the kingdom

[coral cosmos]

and some of the shard crash zones are brutal. like, crabs knocking you down every time you stand back up, wl geting smacked out of you and the crawling mechanic making you get stuck in every bit of dark plant and crawling ever so slowly to regain your light just. this is difficult on people who have played the game for years and they want to introduce this mechanic to new players who don't know the ropes yet? or even why this corruption is there? it's just. not a good mechanic

[spark lance]

How about an eden shards that suddenly crashed into an actual spirit house and the spirit told us to burn it. Later, after helping them burning the shards they will suddenly remember the pasts and tell us about it which can cause a cutscene

[iron elbow]

since shards are permanent mechanic, I can't help but think
post performance moths will never know a trully peaceful sky world

[plush marsh]

NO AVIARY.

[hollow estuary]

new season starts in 13 days huh.....

[spark lance]

The lore telling mechanic of this season somehow looks like the season of Prophecy's to me lmao. Like the challenge of burning the shards has the same feeling with the trials of Prophecy. When we finished it, the main seasonal area will appear some random ancient structure/arts that makes some folks don't know what was going on in the past

[quick harbor]

wdym no aviary 🧍

[nova marlin]

Prophecy's storytelling was way less vague imo

[steady pond]

tbh we already kinda have aviary 2.0 with flights seasonal area

[dreamy grail]

Welp, independing doom approaches as Shattering nears closer to live

[iron elbow]

agree, but with prophecy there was a clear story progression with the murals and visible visual impact on the prophecy cave

[lilac epoch]

Welp. 13 days til shattering goes live, here's hoping my last minute eden runs were enough to keep me away from eden for a few weeks

[nova marlin]

There goes my plans on skipping Eden until my ac runs out 😔

[spark lance]

My excitement for this season has gone while the season is still being tested in BETA currently. I hope TGC would extend the hiatus fixing bugs, hearing our feedbacks before making the season to LIVE

[glass spoke]

i've been speedrunning eden for the past few weeks so i don't have to go for a while HJXHBSN

[plush marsh]

WE NEED AVIARY

[iron elbow]

literally started doing eden every week ever since first days of testing, hope 104 ac will suffice for now

[quick harbor]

OH. YES YES. tgc make it happen (within 2 years please)

[nova marlin]

Lmao smart move, I might as well start doing that too and pray that I wouldn't have to go to Eden ever again

[timid basalt]

why farm for ac when i can just drop the game for good lmao jk

[lilac epoch]

I've stockpiled ACs, eden every reset for weeks now but I still dread going back to register the permanent wings from TS

[iron elbow]

0.18.0 will release any day now with dor stuff, start running

[steady flume]

i wonder how often we'll get the eruptions in live. the every 30 minutes that we have here in beta are just for testing purposes right?

[lilac epoch]

Gonna hurt to unlock warp for 10ACs with new friends

[lapis shuttle]

Where are the shards today?

[iron elbow]

let's hope it's not a geyser-grandma-turtle hour

[terse yarrow]

At least we still have peaceful isle of dawn, which every moth would by pass and forget forever

[lilac epoch]

If you ever see a sky kid spamming the cry emote before opening the eden gate, that's probably me spare a kind honk

[hollow estuary]

funny how this game is supposed to have friendship be a currency mechanic as well but actually friendship is more expensive than what you get from it, since you can get a fragment of a heart or maybe a full one per day from a friend but unlocking friendship features is an unending normal candle AND ac sink. kinda glad im a solo player mostly

[nova marlin]

Imagine a poor moth developing a fear of red rocks because they kept getting pinballed by angry red crabs near them

[vital crystal]

The lightning sfx when you get too near from them is a bit traumatizing

[mighty torrent]

Can I ask? How much cost of the adv pass of shattering season?

Does it's same like ?
Usual ?

Or

different ?

[lilac epoch]

It will likely have the same price as past seasons (USD9.99 for an individual pass, USD19.99 for the bundle pack), TGC has not announced that they are raising prices for the adventure pass

[mighty torrent]

Oh god thanks God , I thought the price were changed cuz rare items and never back

If the money raised , I start to yeet myself

[hollow compass]

This season isn’t really any different to previous ones. Ultimate gifts never come back. Other than that, all other stuff should.

[rugged kayak]

i hope that at the very least TGC have learned some sort of lesson with this mess
i'm fine with a different season direction but it's just not engaging enough, as cool as the ideas behind everything are
i'm mostly fine with the damage mechanics however i have near 3 years of sky experience on my belt, i can deal with it but many others may not be able to hence how much distaste there is for it

[kindred rock]

hello! i came for some spoilers for the next season, can we get ascended candles from the season tasks?

[lilac epoch]

Cleansing the red shards will give a player AC rewards. Black shards give regular candle rewards.

[pine kindle]

Unpopular opinion: Eden isn't that bad tho

[rugged kayak]

i agree eden is a lot better tbh. it has an actual learning curve now instead of being JUST random, but there still is a fair bit of randomness. the new spotlight thing helps a lot genuinely

[tardy gyro]

Could anyone give me some direction on how to do the second quest/task, pls? I am so clueless

[pine kindle]

yeeee, and my last few runs the only time I got murdered by the crawl was when I overshot and tried to leave a scone when the rock rain started again. Realistically I don't have many concerns besides the fact I'm mostly a solo player, so the events might be a bit difficult if players aren't there to help

[lilac epoch]

Talk to shattering guide, activate 2nd quest node, find a shard, cleanse it, finish the mini game at the end of the cleansing and talk to the guide that will appear after it's all done, teleport to the void of shattering and view the 2nd memory. There should be a WL in that memory so you'll want to get it too.

[rugged kayak]

yeah i'm a solo player too, the shard events i'm fine with actually but they just take longer than i think they should when alone... maybe it's beta servers being wonky but the plants burn soooo slowly x-x

[tardy gyro]

Where can i find the shard?

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!

[pine kindle]

ikrrr smh, we can be Season of Shattering buddies 🙌... 😭

[lilac epoch]

There should be a prompt at the bottom of the screen that tells you where darkness has fallen.

[rugged kayak]

also i'm?? a little worried about how the game is performing as of the current beta build. everything is jittery, and there's lots of random frame drops as well 😟 ... makes me worry about how it will be on switch especially...

[tardy gyro]

Mmm let me try that and get a ss

[tardy gyro]

This is all it says… oh cant post pics

[rugged kayak]

it'll probably say that at xx:08 or xx:38, the shards show up every 30 minutes.
if the quests are in vault today, the shards will be somewhere in the starlight desert, i assume

[tardy gyro]

I already did the daily quest. I need the season quest. I cant believe this is so hard and confusing. Its very frustrating 🙃

[rugged kayak]

the season quests are the same thing as the dailies 😅 after you finish burning them, you should get a prompt to sit down right? and then after that, the shattering QG should be there to let you see a memory?

yeah this is very confusing, i'm confused myself and i did all the season quests x-x....

[tardy gyro]

Well, i didnt. So now what? :/ i didnt get the thingy to sit

[rugged kayak]

just try again until you do, i suppose 😔

[pine kindle]

probably a bug in beta, its not like its live yet 😂

[rugged kayak]

this is another thing i'm worried about with this season. it's very confusing, and very buggy and unpolished and honestly feels rushed, but, according to live's start screen, shattering starts in 13 days 😭

[tardy gyro]

If you are not being helpful pls dont bother 🙏🏼

[torn girder]

either a bug or today’s shard gives wax, haven’t checked that out yet

[pine kindle]

I wasn't being rude

[shrewd needle]

This has been so buggy... One of my friends just DM me that they haven't been able to get past the first mission.

[rugged kayak]

afaik if the shards are red they give AC shards, and if they're black they give wax

[maiden pond]

This isn't looking too good, huh?

[torn girder]

i think this might be wrong. no way season in this state can be released to live in less than 2 weeks. live version hasn’t even been updated to 0.18.0

[rugged kayak]

i really hope so, getting on live and seeing that countdown fills me with dread :[

[tardy gyro]

I really hope you are right bc this is a hot mess

[pine kindle]

All of the quests have been released, right?

[fickle salmon]

new season starts in 13 days
......guys please haaalp!

[maiden pond]

Us to TGC right now:

[split sundial]

Welp. Unless we get a huge update this week... next season is not looking too good

[coral kite]

tgc really looked at all the feedback and went "imma pretend i didnt see that"

[tame pasture]

I opened the live game again after dailies just to see what the countdown said and I gotta say... it's worrying

[spark lance]

TGC is genuinely bringing back old cosmetics in different ways and you know, i like that

[split sundial]

And people were saying to me "never trust beta countdowns" when I said 2 weeks are left for Shattering testing 💀

[fickle salmon]

this isn't a regular ole season that can drop two weeks after the previous one.
they wanted to try something new, give us more time bc of it.

[spark lance]

Well TGC is a whole company and i dont think they would mess up a whole season guys, maybe dont panic cause im sure theyre gonna fix stuff, no one knows what theyre gonna do in the end

[hollow compass]

To be honest, since they said this wasn’t going to be like a season the way we have come to know them, I think it is “ready” for release in two weeks.

[bitter bronze]

Let's not forget when dream was launched it was a buggy glitchy unfinished disaster...... Looks like shattering is next

[ashen tusk]

sprays season bad shattering, bad shattering

[olive gorge]

i think fixing stuff mid season is a little bit more complicated ever since the switch version due to their update policy

[alpine field]

Yeah, switch tos makes that extremely hard. The catch tho is that this season’s still not out on live

[split mirage]

i'm ready, bring it.

[shrewd needle]

This round of testing is really making me feel depressed... It reminds me of how back before live was released, TGC was not overwhelmed and were very responsive to reports. They could be relied on to fix stuff before something was released in live.

Over the past two years, their responsiveness has kept sliding down. The point that I noticed it the most was in Season of Sanctuary, I reported a problem in one of the story cutscenes of overlapping, and that wasn't fixed when that stage was released in live a whole month later. It was near the end of the season before it finally got fixed, so for the story you were better off playing those quests after the season was over.

[cosmic schooner]

this makes me wanna work for tgc for free, too bad i live on another planet (´;︵;`)

[glass spoke]

the responsiveness decreased because of the growing fanbase, but they really haven't been listening to us lately

[fickle salmon]

aww what planet are you from?

[delicate fiber]

Hi

[cosmic schooner]

im from neptune 👍

[spark lance]

Hello, I'm looking for a piece of memory for today's event. I baked Dark Shadow, but I didn't get any pieces of memory.

Please let me know if you know
🥺🥺

[kindred fossil]

Today’s event is wax, you won’t be able to obtain a memory today

[neat wagon]

The new season doesn't look very finished yet it's gonna out in nearly less then 2 weeks? I hope there's gonna be update soon

[kindred fossil]

Whatever next beta update is going to be is either a small bug fix update or 18.5

[spark lance]

Thank you
This event is a bit confusing and hasn't ended yet.

I'm in trouble because I participated from the middle.

[neat maple]

I heard something about hating about the whole Shard Impact. Honestly guys, things changed, not stay forever

theres 2 things

1. It woudn't be getting ascended candles if the crystals and crabs are annoying because, thats the purpose to get ascended candles, getting hurt

2. Accept the change, theres no turning back, even if it means the most memorable thing you can remember.

all I'm saying is this season is fine, sure its lore perspective and new way to obtain ascended and waxes, if you guys don't like this season, maybe pass it. Even if it means avoiding the falling shards

[dusty berry]

I agree, in life you can't get everything without giving something in return. Sometimes you have to work hard to get what you want.

[spark lance]

I'm a little troubled because I don't know how to do it, but the event situation is fun

Spicy crystals not gonna make me stop playing I'm not a softie

Bring it on i chew then and spit it out

[past nebula]

Pop rocks

[spark lance]

i can imagine skykids eating red rocks as pop rock candy

[vagrant fable]

Just because things change doesn't mean they always change for the better

[glass spoke]

pov: aviary

[neat maple]

Listen, the first time I experienced this event, it was scary

but as long you got someone to merge with and have the skills to get used to it, you should be good to accept the change

As a 2 year veteran, Change can be difficult, but its how we grow

[pearl basalt]

Hi gays

[wary hollow]

Honestly as someone who isnt in beta and seeig this unfold im more disapointed in the dorection this season is going. The bugs, the mechanics and the fact it seems all so lack luster when they had said that this season would realllyyyy shake up the game when really it just doesnt?it more inconveniances the game in my opinion im sad because i usually always want to play the new seasons but i feel like tis time i dont think ill participate even if the cosmetics are honestly some of my favorite from recent seasons

[snow steppe]

According to past seasons, the next season will be around mid july

Do u guys think season of shattering is ready at that time?

Or should it be delayed until the end of july/early august?

[steady pond]

since launch skys seasons have been pretty consistent in their schedules with 4 seasons a year, but i really think shattering should be pushed back just a little bit to start of aug lol .. especially since we have rainbow and skyniversary as events to tide us over in july in the meantime

[turbid spire]

i have a question : should i get the pass for shattering ? because the only cosmetics i really want are the elder manta cape, the butterfly pin and the krill hair

[vagrant fable]

Elder manta cape is an ult, so if you really want it, you need to get the pass

[steady pond]

up to you but i always get passes cuz i dont want to feel insane when TS arrives and i have to worry about grinding for candles to get them 🤪

[turbid spire]

the real question is : those cosmetics would come back ?

[vagrant fable]

At least manta ult comes first, I have to get even the stuff I don't want if i want to get my krill cape

[steady pond]

ult no but everything else will come back. if your next question is "how are they gonna come back, we dont have spirits" then i guess we're all in for a little surprise when they Do show up eventually

[fervent ridge]

I just want krill cape, and I need to get everything for that

[snow steppe]

Not to mention how random ts will be. Perhaps if people dont get it durig the season, they will get it next year or so 🤭

[vagrant fable]

Not a fan of most light cosmetics, but gotta get them for that krill cape

[steady pond]

a year for tgc to figure out how the cosmetics will come back in homespace...😌

[snow steppe]

Well, it's 10$, right? For AP ap is always worth it for me

[vagrant fable]

Oh so the original price is 10? Over here 60

[turbid spire]

and another question : how many seasonials candles can we get when we will buy the pass ?

[vagrant fable]

6 per day, 4 with dailies, 1 with candle clusters, 1 for free from the pass

Ah yes, plus 30 for free on the first day

[steady pond]

eyyyup 10usd, 15usd for the double pack i think. always painful seeing the currency conversion 🥲👍

[snow steppe]

You will get around 30 sc at the beginning

[mighty harness]

Question…how do we know if there are 2 separate shard locations that day? Also what about today? I found one in the Starlight desert main area…is there another and does each location happen simultaneously?

[vagrant fable]

We don't, they don't really give any indication of those things, we kinda have to already know the locations
But when there's more than one location they are simultaneous, yes

[spark lance]

Alright here is my idea for the seasonal quests
Stage 1: as the storm rages, there were sharps damaging the kingdom of Sky, the seasonal guide told the skykids to protect the skykids and the Sky residents from the sharps. After burning the sharp, there will be a small memory cutscene and skykids will collect all of it. ( my theory is that the Eden sharps have memory inside them)
Stage 2: talk to Light ancient memories scattered around the kingdom of Sky to see how the past to see how life looked like with the light creatures.
Stage 3: The situation got worse, protect the kingdom and help the weak spirits from the Krill/dark creatures.
Stage 4: talk to the Darkness Ancient memories scattered around kingdom of Sky to see the past to see how the residents' life changed when darkness came and people using/damaging darkness/light for energy uses which cause many dark creatures to rise.
Stage 5: enter Eden and seek out and help the weak star children and ask them for help.
Stage 6: Ask the elders what was wrong with the Eden, there will be a cutscene that the Elders will show the reason to us by using illusion magic.
Stage 7: collect the sharps and ask your friend to come with until the orbit stage, there will be a King-like spirit awaiting you to give him the sharps memory. And then after you reborn, the situation somehow will be normal again, no more sharps damaging the kingdom.

Y'all I'm worried that they won't polish the season 😔

[wary hollow]

I rly feel like tgc after the next collab season(cux im assuming realeasing that is of contractual obligation) should take a step back and take a break from making seasons or just make it so that season releases are more further between

Cuz at this point every season jjst kinda feels like it could be so much more if thwy just had more time

[plain ore]

If they can do that, that would be very nice, I suppose for the team but also for players to give everyone a breather

[wary hollow]

I agree it woul take a llot of stress off of players if we had just more time in between seasons in my opinion. Im.no veteran but iv played long enough to know how exhaisting sky has been for many players including myself.

[native kiln]

honestly i think this is perfect, it has lore, a good story, still ties in the shards but not in a constant way, and it brings a new changes where seasons could be more like stages and not the typical 5 quests

[plain ore]

For sure! I havent been playing for that long myself, but ive had to take multiple breaks cus of the stress it was starting to give me 😅 Also some fear of missing out thing going on. So I wouldnt mind a little slowing down

[spark lance]

Also, The stage 6 "asking the elders" would also have another 6 small missions that:
Each realms, skykids will collect a small amount of memory sharp and show the 6 Elders of the Kingdom before they show us the pasts.

[wary hollow]

I rly wish sky utilized the elders more often theyres so much we could do with having them do more things in seasons or just in general

[spark lance]

WE NEED MORE ELDER CUTSCENE LIKE WE ONLY HAVE 6 CUTSCENES OF THEM 😭

[plain ore]

…feedback? And hope for the best iguess

[spark lance]

idk fella, only 13 days until the Shattering seasons.

[pliant talon]

after finishing the 6th quest, does everything go back to normal or no?

[plain ore]

I mean, I doubt theyre gonna change anything about the season rn, but for future seasons maybe

[spark lance]

Hmm, maybe

[fickle salmon]

after the season is over, do the shard events still occur? i feel like how they explained it before it started, that was implied but as of rn, idk anything.

[sonic flame]

[mighty arch]

Hey for season of shattering there is 4 spirit or 5 spirit?, there is a rumours about 1 new spirit, is it true?

[languid bear]

I checked now, there is 4 spirit

[mighty arch]

Thank you, there is still 2 weeks before the season start, it seems low chance to we get new spirit

[dreamy grail]

4 spirits and the guide. That why people are confused, they look at the constellation and not at the seasonal realm....

• consts always show one more than there actually is to show a placeholder for the guide

[glass spoke]

as far as i know, they will

[dreamy grail]

TGC stated that this season causes permanent changes - COUGH COUGH SHARD FALLS, COUGH COUGH TOUGH EDEN

[mighty harness]

Has TGC indicated that the events will continue. ..? I can’t imagine that they will change the ease of obtaining ascended candles permanently! BTW if this is true then I’m thrilled to never go to Eden again…HOWEVER “permanent changes” could just mean the crawling effect and Eden changes

[glass spoke]

yeah as cosmos' message tells above me <3

[mighty arch]

Broo this season have fewest spirit and cosmetics

[glass spoke]

i'm praying they don't take away this way to earn acs

[fickle salmon]

for those that do enjoy eden (me) after the season ends, will we be able to obtain the wl from the ancient memories?

[dreamy grail]

We've had 4 spirits for 4 seasons in a row....
♦️

[mighty harness]

I really really don’t believe we will be able to collect AC from shards permanently. That’s just my guess. TGC has Eden as a main piece of the game - being reborn would become obsolete

[plain ore]

Really depends on if theyre gonna keep it all.. probably are, but I can imagine that they get rid of the shards eventually and keep the crawling and change in eden. But idk tbh

[pliant talon]

idk if shard dailies are permanent or not

[glass spoke]

we'll see in some days in beta i guess lmao

[mighty harness]

Well never losing all my wing light again would be heaven to me

[glass spoke]

as someone with 190ish wings, same

[mighty arch]

I see, sorry I dont know because dont follow this season 😅

[dreamy grail]

My guess is our final season of the year will have a high spirit count and cheap prices so we can get stuff easily; 3-4 UGs, 2+ F2P ugs
We probably got a filler pre lore season teaser showing what TGC can do with open spaces, but also they were likely saving budget for our year finale season

[fickle salmon]

so getting wing buffs from ts, you would have to go to eden, no?

[glass spoke]

sanctuary prices were golden

[shadow stratus]

And they were an accident saddly lol

[dreamy grail]

Do tell

[glass spoke]

they somewhat liked us back then 💀

[mighty harness]

Yes … BUT what good are wing buffs if you don’t need to re-collect your wing light?

[shadow stratus]

No they made the price wrong and it was too late for fixing 💀
I think the most expensive season we had was belonging

[glass spoke]

oh so grandma is a gold digger?

[dreamy grail]

Let me reword you; TGC have us super cheap prices because they felt bad for us having to grind so we'd get a huge end of season conversion rate , and some everyone would be able to enjoy the sweet cosmetics
(we wish ;-;)

[glass spoke]

sanctuary had great iap-free cosmetic rates too tbh

[shadow stratus]

Anyway, talking about the season and the above topic, i dont think they would make this new way to get AC just for this season, it really doesnt make sense

[glass spoke]

what even makes sense in this season

[devout terrace]

Anyone else feel like Shattering is the last season ever? Like maybe they’re about to sell Sky (like the other games) and this is it.

[mighty harness]

Agree to disagree? 🤣

[fickle salmon]

what good are AC if not used for wing buffs? just spells.?

[worldly scarab]

I honestly hope so 😭

[glass spoke]

what about the collab season they're working on rn LMAO i HIGHLY doubt they'd do that
@fickle salmon cosmetics from travelling spirits and regular ones, friendship trees

[devout terrace]

What collab?

[maiden pond]

Honestly, as this upcoming season being my third season ever in Sky, I feel so depressed that the beta testers themselves are not happy.

[glass spoke]

they have a collab season coming up, we don't know who they're collabing with, but i suspect that shattering is so messy because the collab season is the more important project

[mighty harness]

AC also unlocks friendship tree stuff, traveling spirits, and just about every cosmetic in the game except IAP. And they’ve made friendship tree progression EXTREMELY steep now as well! 10 AC just to unlock piggyback? C’mon

[glass spoke]

been here for two years and seeing sky get this huge downfall is just... indescribably depressing

[devout terrace]

Very depressed and disappointed

[glass spoke]

i thought assembly was the worst beta season
then shattering proved me wrong

[maiden pond]

I think I'm nearing 160 winged lights total as my limit so far, and as someone who's mastered Eden mostly, besides pnr, they're changing it and now making it harder, which is fine because I think a new challenge is what I need to relive my moth days in Abyss. But it really doesn't please me that moths that join during this time or when Shattering launches will never truly understand the actual Eden, feels like Eden is slowly changing to be more and more unforgivable.

[pliant talon]

i swear that its impossible to free all 63 statues when eden goes tougher anyway

[velvet fog]

I got crashed two times in a row today

[maiden pond]

Which is fine, Eden itself isn't forgiving at all, but it gets increasingly more frustrating to visit but over time we learn the way it works.

[languid bear]

Lol permanent shard event=just more cleaning darkness. CLEANING DARKNESS IS NOT FUN So BORING...

[shadow stratus]

You can always avoid it tho

[pliant talon]

idk if tgc will remove the shard daily when shattering ends

[devout terrace]

And BONUS you get WL stolen by king crabs and exploding rocks

[maiden pond]

I feel bad for the devs reading this, if I was a dev, this would shatter my motivation, but honestly, I'd try to do what I could. All I can say is hope for the best, guys. Let's hope TGC gives an update to this...

[pliant talon]

yeah
a winged light-threatening daily

[spark lance]

I honestly expect the devs would EXTEND the hiatus.

[shadow stratus]

They shouldnt as its a good way to get AC

[glass spoke]

got eaten by the bot
i would honestly be fine with the shard-thing if we got an explanation on why they're falling so suddenly
like,, valley elders gave eden elder something that made him feel nauseous and now he's mad at all of us idk
we got nothing but suffering

[maiden pond]

You guys feel like they're doing events and seasons too close to each other? Like I started in Abyss and I think I'm catching on.

[pliant talon]

i will get powerfully disappointed in 2 weeks

[fickle salmon]

well let’s get a dev in here to discuss lol

[glass spoke]

brb gonna buy some dev summoning spells

[maiden pond]

We can't ping them, as much as I wish we could, I would love to hear what the devs are thinking about this. Surely they have something planned... right? ...Right?

[pliant talon]

same

[devout terrace]

I’m almost 3yrs in. This will be the first hard pass on a season. Like- not even logging in. So far I’ve purchased everything in game and much merch. But now… nope. I’m out. Hope it improves

[glass spoke]

can this be considered as an emergency if i start crying uncontrollably

[maiden pond]

Devs will just tell you to cry them a river.

[fickle salmon]

i’ve been in tears since last week. haaalp

[willow sorrel]

Why does everybody dislike this season so much?

[glass spoke]

are you a tester?

[sinful bough]

I'm just seriously not feeling this season at all. If it goes to live the way it is now I'm more tempted to just skip it all together. Not even FOMO for the cosmetics can save it. The shard events can become so tedious depending on their location (like the one in sunny forest) and all to just see a still image of an ancient memory that explains absolutely nothing. I just don't understand what the plan for this season was, when I feel it is so clear that it should have given us so much more story than it did?

[devout terrace]

Have you played it?!?! 😭

[pliant talon]

winged light-threatening imo

[willow sorrel]

I have. It was really confusing at first and it’s pretty buggy but I don’t really see too many other issues

[glass spoke]

we don't dislike the season as a whole, we dislike the mechanics that are being added with the season

[languid bear]

They probably had a much better quest plot at the conceptual stage.... But why, why.....
are they actually reading feedbacks about tedious quest?

[glass spoke]

what??

[spark lance]

Actually it's not lmao

[modern rune]

i'm gonna miss how eden used to be. Though i do like the statue being different poses, the whole crawling mechanic just scares me. This whole thing will make it difficult for solo players as a whole.

[glass spoke]

in feedbacks it's supposed to disappear

[shrewd gyro]

maybe some animation should be added to tell the story of this shattering season I think

[spark lance]

Nah ik that but my blind eyes just didn't find my message on this chat

[glass spoke]

i'm suspecting it's the collab season's fault

[modern rune]

moreover, this will make veterans/more experienced players not want to go to eden, therefore making it even more difficult for moffs that need help. I'll still go, but i know i'll prolly be guiding more moffs lol

[sinful bough]

I'd actually enjoy the crawling mechanic if it weren't for the fact that getting downed would equal never getting up basically

[spark lance]

Let's keep that wish in our heart 🛐

[glass spoke]

extremely realistic!!!!!!

[modern rune]

idk if it's worth putting to feedback cause i'm sure a LOT of people have expressed this and i haven't seen any change.

[lapis shuttle]

Where is the shard today??

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[shrewd gyro]

In the starlight desert, in front of the rose guide

[magic ermine]

i have some question, i just started the season today, how do i complete the first quest?

[spark lance]

But Skybot, do they actually hear us out?

[maiden pond]

I'm still gonna buy the pass, but like in Abyss, I won't be buying the bundle this time. I didn't buy the bundle in Abyss cause it was my first season and I only had enough leftover money for myself.

[magic ermine]

and second, is there someone avaible i can give a qr code so they can bring me to the office? i really would like to buy the office cape in beta version

[spark lance]

#beta-looking-for-group

[languid bear]

I also put feedbacks from when first quest is available to when final quest is
BuT NoW?? JuSt Long long cleaning time.

[topaz rover]

if i'm honest, i feel like the new damage mechanic is so polarising because you go from being fine to fighting for your life in such a short amount of time...

There should be a progression to getting weaker and weaker as you spend more time in a bad spot instead of going to the extreme in a split second because then you'd actually have a chance at escaping the dangerous area you're in, for one, and second other players wouldn't have to jump in a dangerous area themselves to help you out...

IMO, that would fix a lot of issues with this.

[unborn patrol]

I would greatly welcome this

[modern rune]

moreover if you get krilled, you would now have to either have a heal potion, or hope there's a light source nearby. otherwise, it's waiting for someone to help you out. Sad thing is, sky isn't full of good players, there's some toxic players and they'll be rude and ignore that you need help. :/

[plain ore]

I cry whenever a crab pushes me into a shard makes it so hard to recover the wl in the time given

[topaz rover]

I've had so many people get mad at me because they were trying to lose their winged lights on purpose to go capeless, now when i see someone losing them i'm always second guessing myself lol

[maiden pond]

Actually, scratch this. I'm buying one myself and a gift pass for one friend I've been meaning to gift. They're not sure they want this season or the next yet, but I'm buying them a gift pass regardless of what they choose.

[shrewd gyro]

I just lost more than 25 wls since the season began lmao

[devout terrace]

Wow. Lucky you!! I’m down 60

[sinful bough]

This is why I can never get past the last area before pnr. I don't know if maybe my timing is just conveniently very bad whenever I do eden in beta, but I always end up getting caught by the krill and getting thrown back straight to crawl mode, that I just quit the game so I don't lose my wl lol

[plain ore]

They could always just… remove that last krill? thats just me being hopeful tho lol

[modern rune]

I have advice for that, with the last krill, it's on the right side longer than the left, as soon as it starts to go to the right side, time that with when the rocks stop, that's best timing to make a run for it

[topaz rover]

also, as a non tester myself, has anyone here managed to test if the ascended candles gotten during shard events and the eden's weekly cap are tied together or if both are independent...?

[plain ore]

Ive managed to avoid the krill most of the time, but it’s always the wind knocking me back when trying to get the wl. Makes me very stressed when it happens 💀

[shrewd needle]

There is a way to stop that wind from happening. If you get outside of the Eye of Eden intro room before the second loading screen where the sky starts to flash, the wind and the flashing don't happen.

[main bridge]

Helloo is season of shattering ap still the same price?

[plain ore]

I had no idea! I’ll try it out next time for sure!! Thank uu

[spark lance]

We all have no idea 🤩 🤟

[main bridge]

I hope its still the same price

[sinful bough]

Aren't all adventure passes always the same price?

[spark lance]

Hiiiii I have no clue about the new season what I shall expect can someone help me

[shadow stratus]

Yeah, wouldnt make sense changing it i think since some ppl probably have dozens of pass to give

[topaz rover]

i'm still unsure why they decided to make that entrance so hard to go up, back in season of dreams when i started, climbing those stairs was such a breeze

[devout terrace]

Death. Pain. Crawling. Losing WL 😭😂

[chilly wigeon]

I feel like I remember those stairs always being hard to get up at the end

[hollow compass]

The stairs were even easier when there wasn’t a krill there. 😉

[spark lance]

I'm a live player and I'm scared season of preference just finished and we wait 13 days until shadderin how is eden I heard it got bigger and way more difficult so did the dailies?

[hollow compass]

Eden is still the same size. You can browse this channel and #beta-screenshots-videos to get a sense of what is up ahead.

[spark lance]

Thank youuuuu

[hollow compass]

I think most of us are hoping the season will be mostly avoidable if you find the shard events and Eden eruptions disruptive to your general gameplay. But we really don’t know much about how Shattering will be in Live.

[spark lance]

Haha.. I see the red crystals all over the worlds why 😭

[topaz rover]

i used to try hard eden as a moth to get as many AC as I could, and i don't recall having trouble on this last stretch specifically,
once I got all the wing buffs and getting up to 200 AC i stopped going there for several months (because the new tier two capes had started to roll out, though they put a pin on them for a very... very long time...) , one day i decided to go back for funsies and i just couldn't get up those stairs because the wind had gotten so strong (though they since toned it down thankfully but it's still a struggle)

[hollow compass]

Yeah. It’s an interesting choice by TGC. 🧐

[topaz rover]

in any case, i really hope they keep tweaking things for shattering like they've done on other seasonal areas even during/after the end of the season to accomodate most players
maybe that's being optimistic, but that's something tgc has done several times, even while a season went live so, heh...

[spark lance]

The hardest I believe is the fact you can't help people by doing the big honk now and they have to come to you ik people won't help sometimes 😭

[vagrant fable]

Last week with shards on Gramma table, I was the only one trying to get people's wl back and when I lost mine nobody came to help, which I don't really blame people for, there were just too many crabs and shards

[hollow compass]

That place in particular is just cruel to place the shards in.

[topaz rover]

are we gonna have to rely on the recording candles performance introduced to keep ourselves lit up more than ever or something?

[spark lance]

It comes to granma too?????!!!?

[shadow stratus]

I think we need to have an icon for other lost wings, sometimes i just dont see it

[topaz rover]

fair point, you only get a notice for your own unless they're literally in your view...

[spark lance]

I'm sorry I do a lot of questions btw its my anxiety if I don't know something that will come up in the future I get anxious

[topaz rover]

also, why recovering one of your own winged light doesn't recover you to a lit state? I've always wondered about this?

[vagrant fable]

Also loved (hated) to discover that when you touch a red shard you get one shotted into crawling

[spark lance]

I have a question how do you do dailies I read you have to destroy the crystals or something??

[shadow stratus]

No its just visit, as far as i know

[vagrant fable]

No no, for the dailies you just have to go to the place where the shard is
The seasonal quests, on the other hand, you have to burn the plants and then collect memory pieces

[topaz rover]

i think you have to simply visit the area where it lands for the dailies

[spark lance]

Oooooo thank you!

Poor moths 💀 I have been playing for a long time sky and I still discover things and that season looks so hard

[topaz rover]

yeah it's gonna be something else-ish yet familiar lol

[valid terrace]

to anyone who wishes to help anyone starting in this season, I salute you
I’m not cut out for mentoring myself

[spark lance]

I have adopted like 4 moths and it will be so hard helpin them especially at the bigginin were I learn the season myself

[topaz rover]

80% of the moths i befriend never return as is, i'm not very optimistic for the next two months

[valid terrace]

to anyone who does stick it out, help themmm

if they want it ofc

[topaz rover]

always do my best to help out, even if it puts me in danger, even if that's not what a lot of players tend to do
i'm kind of a vigilante solo player, and i don't really get the mindset people have nowadays.
people used to be much more helpful back in the day, and that was barely a year and a half ago

I'll keep doing my best

[vagrant fable]

I help moths get through Wasteland whenever I run into them, maybe Eden if I find any, but that's the extent I go
Shattering events I'm not even keen on doing in live even by myself

[spark lance]

Feedback given. This season still needs a lot of work

[rain stone]

hey how long will the season of shattering last?

[topaz rover]

i guess we'll find out in 13 days

[rain stone]

aaaaaaaaaaaah.. i really hope it will be long enough till after the next two mooootnhs..

[topaz rover]

we're gonna need plenty of candles to unlock everything, the schedule better not be tight....

[rain stone]

yea! man it sucks to be unable to play the season you waited for so long..

they better make it a long long season! the timing rly isn't the greatest..

[topaz rover]

i'm one of those people who have the opportunity to play everyday thanks to my living conditions, but i swear, only completing the whole thing two weeks and a half before it's over is kind of brutal
my thoughts go to those who can't commit for any reason to that much play time

[rain stone]

waaaaah.. i'll be on a place where there is no connection for two whole months.. otherwise i can also play daily but summer vacation n stuff

[topaz rover]

aw man that's really unfortunate
well, at least you can take a rest from the game and come back fresher for the end of the year season then

[rain stone]

hopefully
i really am so excited to play this seasonn

[topaz rover]

the cosmetics will (enventually ) return as traveling spirits and the shards afaik will also remain for the long run so you know, not all will be lost but i getchu...

[surreal dust]

Are the cosmetics going to return?

[rain stone]

oooh that's right! totally forgot about that part
but y'knoooooow during the season it all gives a different vibe

[topaz rover]

every seasonal spirit so far (those who did not return yet non pending) has had a return letting us get their items, I don't see why this season would be any different on that regard

unless TGC has some plan otherwise, my bet is that it's a strong possibility

personally i find the traveling spirit system to be a good but also flawed way to get access to those things, I really wish there was a more hands on way to get what you wanted when you wanted, I'd love to summon any spirits I'd like with AC or something to get their stuff whenever but that's off topic

[elder prawn]

Will there b more cosmetics in the new season? I feel like there isn't a lot, where are the big ultimate rewards?

[topaz rover]

there are some new cosmetics and two ultimates, but I can't tell if anything else will be added to what's already in there right now so

[spark lance]

Are we allowed to know the cosmetics and the prices?

[scenic jewel]

So I need to reset my phone. If beta is synced to my email I don't have to worry about being kicked correct? (Android user)

[whole agate]

There are, like, 12 cosmetics 👀

[kindred fossil]

Still miffed we can’t pick which ultimate to unlock first based on which side is completed first 🥲 Weird that if you choose the dark side first you’ll unlock the emperor manta cape regardless

[hollow jay]

5 times of attempting to do the vault's shard event, all failed.

It's the most buggy shard of all time

[broken bison]

The best part of the new season is when the shard says: "Its shatterin time"

[ashen tusk]

So no new update or any mention of an extension on the table?

[sterile cobalt]

why do all of the quests have to be the same thing though 😭

[ashen tusk]

maybe it's so we're not distracted from the hell shards, devil crabs and agonising crawling?

[broken bison]

What quests do you want? "Ascend on Eye of Eden" "Dodge a dark dragon flying"

[ashen tusk]

honestly would make more sense to have that as a seasonal quest for an eden eruption all things considered... Rather have more variety, including an eden run, if it means we aren't burning dark plants at the shards all season

[broken bison]

Sky Beta new quest: "Send a feedback message to developers"

[sterile cobalt]

at least something that isnt the exact same thing repeated every single quest that will be a permanent feature
and yes ive sent feedback

[hollow jay]

I know how to make the shard event more exciting...

Just add one or two krills to the shard site, also, of course, add a few caves for you to hide 😂

[sterile cobalt]

perfect, i want more shrimp
red shrimp that just getting spotted your light drainstgc please dont actually make that a thing

[broken bison]

If there are red crystal crabs, where are the red crystal krills?

[pliant shuttle]

I wonder what kind of damage Red Krill does if TGC decided to add to the game

[broken bison]

INSTANT DEATH

[pliant shuttle]

Well that would be terrifying haha

[broken bison]

New moffs during Shattering be like: That is not a friendly game!!!

[spark lance]

You get yeeted to the pity room

[broken bison]

Or they could deal less damage, but instant attack if one detects you.

[ashen tusk]

I'm sad about this season and I left disappointed feedback about it because I honestly feel my energy and motivation dwindling

[modern rune]

Heyo beta, wish me luck, going into pnr now first time with the new changes...i would've ages ago but sky beta kept crashing upon trying to even go to eden or some other areas lol but its fixed now so eyyyy

...bruhhhh pnr looks even more emotional now omg ;-;

[violet bluff]

I'm so worried about this upcoming season, I hope the devs listen to all the feedback and at least attempt to fix it for the season afterwards. The game was never about difficulty it was about sharing experiences and meeting new people. It's better to bring someone with you to Eden but you shouldn't be forced to get like a group of 6 just to get near the top, not everyone has a group like that. Also the update of being unable to recharge through sound completely screws over the shared memories being able to recharge you, which can get you stuck in places you can't get out of.
TGC is one of my favorite game companies and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they can't do much about the update now that it's come so far, but for the love of Christ just make it last this one season and fix it by the next. The endless bugs and missing elements topped with the questionable Eden changes..I'm a newer player and Eden was hard enough to begin with.
I'd hate ending up dropping my favorite game because of such a solvable issue..I'll go back to Journey if I need to.

[modern rune]

You can recharge players, it's only if they are fully out of light that you cant.

i just finished pnr of eden and i think it was really interesting. The crawling mechanic though was kinda pain to watch. and for solo players like myself (though i enjoy going with friends too!) unless you stock up on healing potions...no way of getting all statues anymore lol

also bruhhh, the rocks took out my lamp x_x rudeeee

not me getting emotional watching my player fly to orbit

also i worry about the eden mountain errupting every 30 minutes. I was hoping it'd maybe be once an hour only cause i enjoy listening to ingame ambience, having to hear that every 30 minutes might be a litttle bit of a pain ^^'

[broken bison]

Shattering might not be the favorite for everyone. And i dont think TGC can fix the season quick because it begins in 2 weeks in Live.

Im sure all their efforts are in the Collab season coming after Shattering.

Lets just wait for the final season of the year!

|| And please, lets not act like snowflakes aaaa ||

[steady flume]

i don't think it will errupt every 30 minutes, that's just for testing from what I got
I actually see myself doing the shard quests to get AC because I don't like doing wl runs after every eden trip

[astral trellis]

kind of want sky fandom to go up in flames about this lol

[simple tree]

Nothing new in beta but then the start screen in live says "new season starts in 13 days". I hope there will be cut scenes after every seasonal quest. I mean please, let us have more of the actual lore stories. Not just statues, not just some paintings.

[ionic bluff]

i definitely think this season needs more test time

[tight lantern]

This season could've been a banger but they chose to not up the test time

[spark lance]

Hello one question.
What are the numbers of the scores of the ancestral spirit and the one of the ancestral darkness?

[chilly wigeon]

Is there a way to get the switch bundle in beta because I saw someone with the elf hair

[hollow compass]

They are just after Performance, so whatever number those have... Sorry, I'm not much help.
I checked the latest guide Updated Music Sheets & Instruments Guide
By Laila #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations message
Shattering music sheets should be 30 and 31.

[dreamy grail]

Guys, I asked Sago this a month ago at least, we ain't getting cutscenes, period
Want me to get the message link?!!!

[chilly zenith]

i rlly hope they pull one of those "leave everything a mess and then fix it all last minute" things for season of shattering ngl

[dreamy grail]

^ no cutscenes

[hollow compass]

Yes, you said that already.

[hollow compass]

Switch beta was very short, so you can't get that bundle in beta anymore.

[restive needle]

Oh god only two weeks until Shattering my hope is slowly dwindling

[autumn elk]

If you were around when switch pack was being tested you can have the pack but it is no longer available

[restive needle]

I really hope TGC is prepared for the utter onslaught of chaos that’s going to go down in this server once it goes live

[narrow current]

(Ping off)
Where is everything You had planned?
Aside from bug fixes the first build and current are not too different..

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[restive needle]

Oh after some contemplation I did actually come up with one other about this season that I liked

the fact that “Season of Shattering” abbreviates to SOS

[minor falcon]

same as sanctuary

[spark lance]

Thank you, but I would like to know which spirit is 30 and which spirit is 31 hahaha

[autumn elk]

I really do hope the timer is wrong in live… unless they have been silently overhauling the whole shattering season and are planning to give us a big update with drastic changes… I can see a LOT of live players being very disappointed and probably not sticking around to complete the season/bothering to buy a pass to begin with

[hollow compass]

If they do change Shattering significantly before release, but not for beta, then I honestly don't understand the point of beta anymore.

[broken bison]

We gotta make a digital riot to delay Shattering.
It clearly feels unfinished, and the schedules are very tight :c

[chilly wigeon]

People are probably gonna be surprised by there being no spirits to get or see

[autumn elk]

Its such a disappointing thing, this season had the potential to be one of the best as a dark/eden themed season has been a highly demanded season.

The lack of cutscenes…Story…Emotes seems like they are trying to see how little people will still accept while still paying 9.99 for the pass.

[narrow current]

This season is the perfect example of the phrase " if it ain't broke don't fix it " and the prophecy comparison the devs used ( for promotional reasons im guessing ) is way more detrimental to it than anything.

[restive needle]

Yeah. It sucks because from the devs in here it sounded like they were working on something really big and that there would be a lot of innovative changes going down during beta but so far it feels like the updates are just continuing to be minor tweaks to the very first build/idea. There have been some helpful changes to make the new mechanics suck less but it’s not been anything really huge. Again I feel like the reason they must be doubling down on these despite them being like actively player-unfriendly for a lot of reasons is that they’re somehow integral to whatever the next collab is.

[broken bison]

#DelayShattering

[restive needle]

i suggest beta goes on strike lmao. if not all beta channels then just this one. we all stop talking for like ten hours or something

[heavy stirrup]

Is there a chance that some sort of darkness/krill pants may appear on a last minute update of the season of shattering?

[broken bison]

O wow this channel is going into flames again XD

[narrow current]

Highly doubt

[restive needle]

or just adding #delayshattering to everything we post or something silly like that

[autumn elk]

I was never a fan of 4 spirit seasons. With the past few that were 4 spirits I understood because they added either huge areas/new mechanics or challenges.

But this season doesn’t offer anything aside from an unnecessary damage mechanic and glorified plant burning.

[heavy stirrup]

I envisioned some sort of armor to match the darkness set, wouldn't that be cool 🥲

[restive needle]

Technically I don’t think it would count as spam if we just talk normally but then add it at the end of our posts like this #DelayShattering

[narrow current]

Yep, i mean one can hope that maybe with a delay a new set is added but if it comes out in 2 weeks like the live counter says ( and yes people say the live counter isnt accurate... Tell that to abyss and performance LOL )

#delayshattering

[restive needle]

idk I don’t actually think it would accomplish anything though. I’m just frustrated and discouraged #DelayShattering

[broken bison]

Hey all chill!

[autumn elk]

I mean any sort of attention to an issue is good as long as we remain respectful its fine to protest #DelayShattering

[narrow current]

True, respectful protesting is possible as long as we are all chill of course
#delayshattering

[restive needle]

yeah that’s what I was thinking. It’s not very disruptive considering we’re all still discussing in a relatively chill manner #DelayShattering

[broken bison]

o-o

[full jewel]

I am so not motivated for another season right away

[spark lance]

why is this a mood

[narrow current]

A clearly unfinished season at that ^
#DelayShattering

[restive needle]

Instead of buying the SOS pass I’m gonna treat myself to my personal new season: Season of Abyss 2. it consists of me replaying through all of Season of Abyss. #DelayShattering

[autumn elk]

Personally i think this season could easily be a “days of event” with the lack of emotes.

The dark stuff could easily be part of a Halloween iap/f2p set light cosmetics could be part of the summer event #DelayShattering

[full jewel]

A bigger gap between seasons would be cool tbh. I know people look forwards to updates but cmon… 2 weeks is just not enough to recover from over 2 months of grinding

[narrow current]

Yep, days of summer and days of mischief collide + shard events. That's what this season is
#DelayShattering

[broken bison]

"And with that, the devs returned to the making of traditional seasons, the end"

[restive needle]

Aye that makes sense. I support breaking away from the routine seasonal pattern and even think that the overal course of Shattering’s events could be actually kind of fun but it’s definitely not in the state it’s in now
#DelayShatterinng

[glass spoke]

#delayshattering so true

[narrow current]

Ill give the devs 1
"At least you tried" star!

#DelayShattering

[autumn elk]

Idk, for me personally they not only cut content they also recycled a lot of stuff we already have and frankensteined them into a “season” and want us to pay the same as a completely original season with story cutscenes and dedicated areas.
#DelayShattering

[restive needle]

I don’t wanna harp on the actual devs in this discord too much though. I don’t believe it’s really truly them who are at fault here. Especially because there’s many different kinds of devs from like character designers to animators that don’t actually have the ability to decide on things like schedule or mechanics rehashing. I sincerely hope that they don’t get swamped with hate
#DelayShattering

[narrow current]

Yeah, if You compare shattering to any other season except maybe the first 4... Its not worth the same pricing as other seasons
#DelayShattering

[restive needle]

Or the poor community mods, including the ones actually employed by TGC.
#DelayShattering

[broken bison]

[chilly wigeon]

[narrow current]

If anyone has an issue with anybody in the chat currently i suggest they #contact-the-mods
That being said #DelayShattering

[autumn elk]

We can dislike/disagree the choices made without attacking the individual devs/mods. I think everyone has only been critical of the season not of the devs themselves. As long as it remains constructive and respectful its fine.
#DelayShattering

[restive needle]

oh dear I just realized another way to shorten season of shattering that I’m almost positive people are going to be echoing in droves once it hits live
#DelayShattering

[oak remnant]

Idk at this point it's like talking and hoping to a wall

[restive needle]

yeah. I’m mainly doing the hashtag not to like attract any attention or anything but to vent at this point. all I’ve got left for this season is resigned apathy and I’m already exhausted of it before it even hits live
#DelayShattering

[chilly wigeon]

I'm kinda excited to get some of the shattering items in live I like the way they look mostly the 2 ultimates but this season seems so expensive

[narrow current]

Its really interesting how some people decide to be oblivious to the obvious mistakes and problems with this season. Like its ok to appreciate the developers work but there is nothing wrong with faulting the wrongs of it in a respectful way. 🦆 🦆.

[glacial barn]

You know, I wouldn't even be upset if shattering was just changed to a "days of" event and we got a break from seasons for a bit. Sure, turn some of the cosmetics into IAP to match that (some already are what with requiring AP)... But anyways - I think that could remove/reduce the anxiety and feeling of requirement that the shard events currently instill

[twin isle]

I think shattering would be a killer days of event that I'd be so hype for, but sad part is it's a season.

[kindred fossil]

They’ll listen once it’s too late & it goes live, there isn’t much we can do at this point as it’s evident that they have different plans in mind despite our criticism

[autumn elk]

As someone that loves capes i think both ultimates being capes is weird… I feel like we should get armor/krillcape/eden crown/elder manta cape

[restive needle]

oh yeah the items are super cool. I think that at this point that’s what TGC is banking on, that people will be forced to participate in this season despite the dislike and pay for AP because they made the cosmetics so darn good looking. Which honestly really really sucks when you think about it. Actively manipulating player interests to spend more time/money putting themselves through the events and “quests” they dislike is a level of scummy that I really didn’t expect from TGC and makes me feel really discouraged for the future of the game if this is the precedent they’re going to set moving forward.
#DelayShatteringpleasegodwhy

[narrow current]

Not adding eden crown was a huge missed opportunity
#DelayShattering

[twin isle]

We really did need just one more ult. How long has it been since we just had two ults? Idr

[autumn elk]

Flight i think

[dreamy grail]

Guys, anyone remember what seasons Ash has worked on? /gen

[restive needle]

Flight mainly I think?
#DelayShattering

[kindred fossil]

Their fan concept was licensed for Belonging but officially:
Enchantment, Flight, Abyss, Performance, uuuuh, what else

[broken bison]

How about new ultimate gifts beyond the season. Like elder inspired pants?

[twin isle]

If they would have added darkness pant ults we could have another ult pant. We don't have many right? Tlp and flight?

[dreamy grail]

Guys, is it scary to say that she just came online as I said her name?

[autumn elk]

Honestly id be cool with a 1 ultimate season. As long as it was the eden crown or something super useful akin to the belonging bonfire

[twin isle]

I'd accept Eden crown as a single ult item honestly I just want it in the game. I didn't want a lore item to be ult locked before but I'm desperate for it

[broken bison]

Now if that happens, players will complain because there is only one ultimate gift BAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[distant spire]

https://tenor.com/view/pool-boy-dopinder-deadpool-live-the-dreams-mr-pool-gif-22377230

[autumn elk]

I think most people are more interested in quality over quantity when it comes to ults they want it to FEEL like it was worth two months of grinding

[dreamy grail]

Eden crown has been seen in promotional images/videos and is fully like functional and is definitely in the files, I think we'll see it in our lore related eden season in the near future

[restive needle]

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion because I’ve heard a lot of people didn’t like Abyss (THEYRE WRONG!! ||/j||) but I think that the last three seasons we’ve had are back to back bangers, Flight, Abyss, and Preformance, and then Shattering is just ending what was a high streak by like driving it into a wall and catching on fire.
#DelayShatteringdontmakefunofmethisishowicope

[twin isle]

Honestly I think the elder manta cape is the best ult cape I've seen imo. But that's just me. The only real reason I love shattering is bc that's the first ult cape I really really love. It's what I wanted the sanct ult cape to be

[broken bison]

[kindred fossil]

Flight & Abyss are debatable but Performance has definitely been a fun season, the shift to Shattering is going to be so, so jarring (Then again, we had Sanctuary followed by Prophecy)

[autumn elk]

Im not huge on manta capes. I own the sanctuary manta and literally never wear it. The shattering manta ult i want to at least glow like the sanctuary manta.

[broken bison]

Did beta testers liked Prophecy during the beta testing before releasing it into Live???

[narrow current]

Flight and abyss were filler to me, still got the passes though cause #cosmeticcollector

[twin isle]

Performance is for sure a banger. I think tlp is a banger IF you didn't have a crap ton of crashing (I didnt) but flight and abyss were kind of lacking imo. But that's bc I only liked a handful of cosmetics and felt the central conflict was resolved way too quick. Abyss I only liked the cutscenes. That's it.

[dreamy grail]

Honestly I really liked flight, it was really interesting

[kindred fossil]

I don’t remember but most definitely it was more well received than Shattering

[hollow compass]

The first iteration of Prophecy was very bare, but later updates made it a lot better. I think those who liked parkour courses loved it. I never really did, personally.

[autumn elk]

Abyss was lacking cosmetic wise imo, but the new swimming mechanic and area well made up for it imo. Flight i wasnt crazy about either, but again adding new ways to scoot around the realms without going home is definitely useful

[narrow current]

Prophecy actually has cool gameplay implementations as well.

||unlikeShaTtering||

[dreamy grail]

Guys hear me out.... This season comes off as the 🍌 from Mario Kart for players huh?

[kindred fossil]

As the banana…………… monke

[twin isle]

Maybe it's bc I felt the concept art was what I wished abyss area was, but I feel the abyss seasonal area is still way too bare.

[broken bison]

Our phones wont be that happy then.

[dreamy grail]

The banana that makes you crazy when you drive into it

[autumn elk]

There isnt much to do there, but hopefully they will expand it like how they did with the dreams area in future seasons

[dreamy grail]

#news, farewell post for Performance posted

[broken bison]

Shattering is the season of all time. My fav part is when the questgiver said "Its shatterin time"

[narrow current]

Its definitely the and its very

[dreamy grail]

Honestly that intro scene for Shattering tho, really gooooood 😩

[twin isle]

Which is the worst 😭

[broken bison]

I got 1 shatterillion ascended candles thanks to the Shards.

[dreamy grail]

Lore chat gunna be sobbing over that for weeks, especially the closeup to the ♦️

[distant spire]

I confirm

[topaz rover]

Is there even an end cutscene for this Season at all?

[dreamy grail]

Season guide be like; 🔹
PNR be like; ♦️

[restive needle]

Alright I’ll be the first to admit that I’m biased in favor of Abyss and I think if you examine my discord profile you’ll easily see why (I’m trans and I LITERALLY named myself Fisher first off) but I really enjoyed it. While I wasn’t playing through all of Flight when it was current content because I took a break from Sky when my hyperfixation shifted away from it, I also really enjoyed it. I think the thing that really ties Flight Abyss and Preformance together is just the actual characters that the spirits were set up as. Flight was the first time, and maybe this is just because it was right after TLP where all the characters weren’t really “Sky” characters, that I felt able to really connect with the spirits. They had a lot more distinct personalities and you could easily see just by their seasonal areas how they worked together and what they were all about and the different dynamics. I honestly view them like little families. Which is another reason why SoS is going to be such a jarring shift - not that I’m opposed to it on principal, because jarring tonal shifts in Sky are something it pulls off pretty well, like the transition from Valley to GW and Eden as a whole. But it doesn’t exactly feel like a rewarding narrative change this time around. It’s just out of nowhere.

[dreamy grail]

⬆️ @topaz rover
(The message I replied to had a reply from Sago earlier this season of testing)

[narrow current]

Its sad we have an introduction scene but not an outro scene to close out the season.
#DelayShattering

[digital pasture]

i think abyss was pretty neutral. not phenomenal and not bad. it had a lot to offer to the world of sky and I'm very thankful for it opening a new door in sanctuary! with the turtle and coral trench! and it's the first season to introduce holding the hand of an in-world spirit, which was really fun too! compared to all of that, flight is even more underwhelming

[broken bison]

You forgot to put the hashtag

[topaz rover]

Heckaroonies...
Gonna inhale some Hope air that they have it under wrap but at this point i'm scared... xD

[restive needle]

I feel like SoS would’ve done better just like story wise if it came out after Flight, due to all of the weirdness with the Eden rocks and krill during the latter half of it. Like there would’ve been some setup to show players that something was Up™️ and that the effects of Eden weren’t strictly constrained to the actual zone and GW. Like Joshua just mentioned it didn’t really feel like Flight ended off on a satisfying note but it would’ve made sense if it was building to something.

[heavy stirrup]

I have a hunch that there might be a last minute update, otherwise this season might turn out to be a great disappoinment. Like the dark horn for example, an exclusive item without any feature. It literally makes a single sound 😵

[dreamy grail]

Here's your only piece of hope: throws final quest showing a scene involving king/prince character

[distant spire]

TGC was lazy 🥴

[narrow current]

THIS

I know some people don't like to outright say it but at what point are they being limited and at what point is it being lazy? They blur the line between the 2 a lot here.

[distant spire]

no posing, no cinematheques, no interaction with the guide, no voices, no poses, no emotes

[narrow current]

||krill call when||

[spark lance]

not gonna lie, the intro of the season did make get excited for a bit because it looks like its gonna be catastrophic, but nothing else happened other than the eden eruption. the eruption felt like it wasn't a big deal to begin with-

[tawdry pine]

Never

[broken bison]

Welp...

They might working on:

-Days of Summer 2022 + Summerlights
-Mischief 2022
-Final season of the year

[oak remnant]

Imagine if we get the ping for update but it only says "bugs and improvements "

[tawdry pine]

Oh, wasn't it announced that there WAS gonna be a crossover/collab season? Perhaps their focus is going aaaall in there.
another playable ad season...

[narrow current]

Well they should've focused on what is currently going on. Days of summer and summer lights are easily the most simple events anyway and why not focus on the season which is like the selling point for the game aside from iaps? Lol

[distant spire]

Good, but I think it's better to work on a good season to improve the experience-history of the game, than on events where they will only bring out shopping items.

[oak remnant]

I wouldn't call them lazy. I just think that they probably have different priorities as the Collab season is coming. Finger crossed

[tawdry pine]

Maybe perhaps focus on the basegame too? Like give more things to explore, more things to get without the fear of missing out / "too bad, you didn't have money for this season now you miss out whoopsy daisy! Better luck next time :)"

[topaz rover]

My last Hope is they have it at the end of the timer once the Season is over and it's the skyds from the intro breathing a sigh of relief as the top of Eden grows back to a normal color lol

[narrow current]

If they cant focus their priorities on the upcoming season before that why make a season at all then?

[broken bison]

Oh boy here we go again, the channel went to flames XD

[spark lance]

They're most likely going to put more effort in a season that brings them more income. Either that or they decided to just scrap some ideas in the last minute due to deadlines

[oak remnant]

Schedules. I'm not the Dev, I wouldn't know behind the scenes and their decision making process. But I think there is a bigger reason than "they are lazy". Remember to keep it respectful and not based on assumption.

[final garden]

Or like, and I know this is a crazy idea (/s), accessibility options /srs

[narrow current]

Well obviously they are a game company, that shouldn't be hiding behind " we are an indie company " anymore people spend thousands of earned money on this game and the least they deserved is finished products this is basic logic..

[broken bison]

nothing makes us happy

[spark lance]

I mean..it's impossible to please everyone

[split sundial]

All the effort of the seasonal cutscenes went into that epic season intro ksbdkdbd

[oak remnant]

Of course. But at the same time, calling them 'lazy' is not a constructive feedback. Or do you think it is?

[maiden pond]

Then, what kind of world would we live in if everything made us happy?

[distant spire]

They were able to bring out a krill and butterfly voice for this season.

[broken bison]

A better world i guess

[spark lance]

Such a missing opportunity 😔

[signal folio]

I wouldn't say lazy, but I do think that A LOT of time and effort went into doing eruptions in all realms all at the same time and making the shard events work.

Too much time in fact, that things got away from them. Same thing with Abyss kinda. Yall can't tell that black short cape looks finished not with the way the strings move.

[split sundial]

Bangs pots and pans
Release 0.18.5 release 0.18.5

[broken bison]

Imagine beta channels having their own dedicated channels

[heavy stirrup]

I have a question (Please bear in mind that I rejoined sky in the middle of the season of performance), did the harmony hall get added into the game along with the season as it was released in the beta?. Is there a possiblity that the season will get updated in the middle of the live servers? I'm still clinging on to hope that a dark armor may appear 🥲... A complete darkness freaking set is every man's romance

[split sundial]

All of my hopes for Shattering are put into 0.18.5 being The Update

[spark lance]

I'm assuming the next update will be later this week

[hushed arch]

well how are we feeling knowing shattering will be released in 13 days and it is still disappointing

[oak remnant]

It came along the season but only added sometime after. Not since the beginning of testing.

[digital pasture]

I haven't heard of any clothing cosmetics being added half through the season, but yes harmony hall was still being tested when performance came out!
Edit: like, it wasn't a thing yet when released but then in beta it got tested later

[heavy stirrup]

I see, thank you for responding

[spark lance]

Depressed

[narrow current]

Someone else responded but to add My 2 cents the items added in harmony were their own iaps and not updates to the spirit cosmetic tree so even if we got something similar we probably wouldn't get dark pants

[shadow stratus]

Im honestly ok with it, some people exagerated a bit like "oh my god its the downfall of Sky" while we just finished a great season. We will survive, people who dislike the things will learn to cope with it or avoid it completly

[distant spire]

They would have removed the missions and no one would complain

[broken bison]

Screw it! Im gonna make AP comissions because i dont want to spend a cent on next season
(No its not promotion)

[oak remnant]

I would, if it is removed completely. I like the shard as another way to gain AC. But as seasonal quests? Meh. It's getting boring quickly

[digital pasture]

i'm afraid of falling out of the game when this season releases :o( like I won't be interacting with the shards but outside of that there's nothing else to do but grind grind grind

[broken bison]

Im just happy about the shards, im not going to be broke in red candles anymore!!

[stuck rose]

Indeed

[restive needle]

hey will you guys hate me if I make another long post just wondering /hj

[hushed arch]

i would suggest yelling at TGC but they don't listen to us so

[narrow current]

Also, idk if someone has ever brought this up but the combination of the shard events being their own event and also doing them for the season quest would make them get old very quick wouldn't it? Id think id be tired of them eventually.
||as if im not already||

[spark lance]

Yeah I'm definitely going to miss performance. It was one of the best seasons. Can't say the same thing for this one, might as well forget about it later

[distant spire]

would have been better as an event than as a season

[quiet obsidian]

oh my god shattering hits live in 13 days? we’re all gonna die folks

[restive needle]

on one hand I know I write a lot and it can bother some people and feel like an interruption + i’m on mobile discord and I can’t ever really tell how long my posts are until they actually get posted, but on the other hand I think it is both informative and potentially lightens the mood somewhat

[iron elbow]

can somebody explain why are we delaying shattering? it's not like tgc will rebuild the season from ground up, as a lot of it's flaws are pretty fundamental

[broken bison]

I have like 56 red candles in beta. I only have 6 in live 💀

[narrow current]

I always enjoy reading other peoples messages regardless so i think its fine. Any insight is good insight

[oak remnant]

Exactly. I thought it's because the frequency is more in beta. But, still, this season doesn't offer the excitement when you're going to do a new quest like "omg what is it going to be instead we get the same ol burning shards.

[spark lance]

Go ahead! I'd love to hear your ideas

[restive needle]

Okay here goes

[broken bison]

The season doesnt feel that polished tho.
I dont care about the emotes (we already got a lot XD) but it lacks cutscenes and a personality, and new mechanics that made people angry.

But the music... THATS N I C E

[narrow current]

Yep, and then You take that and compare it to the amazing cutscenes past seasons have and-
I feel bad fot any moth playing this season expecting something amazing like cutscenes or cinematics

[oak remnant]

That's what I thought too. But well, I wouldn't think it's going to change at this point, unfortunately.

[iron elbow]

what is there to polish?? one quest that's repeated 6 times??

[final garden]

We're getting a season that

• is actively hostile to people with photosensitivity, motion sensitivity, and any related disabilities
• currently has no clear, consistent, or reliable way to revisit previous memories (and thus collect the wl there)
• has no in-game explanation or hints as to how the shard events work
• has some events that are more frustrating than anything previously introduced to the game due to the sheer number of shard crabs
• has ults that have been requested for a long time by many people that will just leave, never to return, when the season ends
• etc.

It needs polish

[hushed arch]

it's not getting delayed but this season has effort put into the wrong places

[broken bison]

Ultimates has always took a lot of time to get. Glad the ancient energy orbs are now 4 instead of 2.

[chilly wigeon]

Did people not like enchantment

[narrow current]

Y'know later i called it lazy but maybe the correct wording is minimalistic effort. Due to what or why? Idk. Is it intentional? Idk. But its not as good as any other season before it.

[iron elbow]

ah
yeah
i kinda forgot there is no accessibility settings still

[hushed arch]

i was talking about gratitude/lightseekers/belonging/rhythm not being seasons in the same way enchantment and beyond are

[torn girder]

i used to think that 2-4 player assembly quests were annoying as a solo player but.. my opinion is different now and shattering quests are literal hell for solo and even a group of players

[oak remnant]

I call this season as season of shattered expectations lol. After all the good premise they chose and offer of 'gameplay' on the news, I am left with so many disappointments

[iron elbow]

it's not really hell as much as it is a cleaning service experience while being surrounded by death

[narrow current]

The comparison they drew to prophecy really didn't turn out well

[broken bison]

Welp i gotta go. Its nice to have a kinda respectful discussion with you heh. Please dont burn the channel!!

[split sundial]

This!!! One cannot say "it izz what it izz if Shattering hits live like this"
Absolutely not
The same pattern of getting used to bad changes to the game repeats again. It is like the 10 AC warp. Nobody is talking about it, we all got used to it.... and it shouldn't be like this. This is not about you, this is about the rest of players that may find difficulties with this season

[distant spire]

I would accept to wait longer for a good season

[restive needle]

My official SoS Outcome Predictions, place your bets:

Bad End - Absolutely nothing is changed, there are no cutscenes, no further changes to things like the krill horn, and there isn’t even a next update or if there is it’s minor things like bug fixes. There’s no word from TGC or the devs ever acknowledging the beta testers feedback. The next season is another paid collaboration and Shattering is totally swept under the rug.

”Good” End - Final updates to SoS add cutscenes and mechanic changes. Season is made at least somewhat enjoyable. It goes down as a generally unpopular season but has some diehard fans who really enjoy it or something.

TRUE END - SoS was the prologue for the next season which is the Official Eden Season. The Prince/King becomes a real character. More areas of Eden are unlocked to explore. Innovative AND enjoyable gameplay. Elders become major characters involved in the storyline. Lore is presented in a way that’s both up to speculation but easily enough to deduce. Critically acclaimed and sweeps the Game Awards.

[spark lance]

The lack of communication from the devs is starting to worry me. I feel like not much is going to change apart from additional bug fixes

[split sundial]

We can't just "cope" with bad changes when it could be done better
Conformism is not an option

[restive needle]

Predictions are based on what I think is most to least likely to happen at this point

[iron elbow]

wait what's the issue with krill horn?? it's a literal horn, they aren't really known for their note range

[slate glen]

it feels as though they have been shortening the gap in between seasons shorter and shorter. i was so shocked at 13 days. used to have to wait a month im pretty sure (something like that). would def prefer more time

[mortal sorrel]

You guys think that Shattering will be the season?

[iron elbow]

final straw for some, that's for sure

[mortal sorrel]

Like they might repeat the others in order?

[restive needle]

@final garden thank you for bringing up the photosensitivity accessibility issues of this season, I’ve been talking about it the past couple of days and got really emotional and worked up about how unfair it is and it feels good to see other people express the same kind of concerns. makes me feel less like I’m just complaining on my own lol

[split sundial]

I for one I don't think I will find difficulties with this season. But I know a lot of players will find them and that is what worries me
I want the game to be enjoyable for everyone

[narrow current]

Welp its My time to go! But if any devs pop up. As they do when the beta channels are at war; pls people keep the same energy we can't accept measly excuses. We the players deserve better.
That being said

[hushed arch]

krill horn isn't an instrument, it has no purpose

[distant spire]

When they come to think for the community they should bring out quality things, if it is to make money think about events

[split sundial]

I'm sorry I can't just buy this "we will find a way to cope with Shattering" speech. I simply can't

[glacial barn]

Ngl, season of shattering feels kinda like the result of having a good idea, but trying to execute it when you have too many other things you need to do in the same time frame. And as a result, some aspects are completed to a lower standard than expected, and some features are just cut or forgotten.

Like with my work, I have three primary tasks I need to complete by the end of the day. I know that if I focus on those three, I might be able to finish five to ten minutes early or right on time. However, if it's just me working alone and I decide to take on an additional task, one or all of those three will be incomplete or completed to subpar quality.

That is honestly the vibe I'm getting

[iron elbow]

it's a horn. it can do one note, really loudly. like a horn would do. we have a lot of instruments as we are.

[mortal sorrel]

I think that TGC should make a an other krill cape,maybe smaller?

[shadow stratus]

2 weeks is a normal break time, a month is usually during new year because they cant work due holidays

[light dagger]

U guys know when new season dropping

[distant spire]

Last year's halloween event is better than the upcoming season

[iron elbow]

accessibility discussion has been going on for weeks now, and no progress has been made huh

[final garden]

Sky ought to be an inclusive game that everyone can play safely, but it's not one and can't be classified as one until there are better accessibility options. I'm with you

[mortal sorrel]

Facts

[light dagger]

[hushed arch]

tgc doesnt listen to us unless its in feedback/wishlist

[oak remnant]

many put it in feedback and they still make no changes to it 💀

[iron elbow]

why would they read pages upon pages of discussions? that's what feedback's for

[eager harness]

I’d rather have last years Halloween event over this failure anyday. There is nothing to look forward to and nothing can be done to fix any of this.

[mortal sorrel]

Like the only reason I like the upcoming season is because of the baby manta cape

[restive needle]

I’ve written multiple long rambling feedback posts in feedback about accessibility (though I think I accidentally deleted one of them before it was sent through but I hope not)

[hushed arch]

cant wait for the next season where you have to help your skykid move on from their league of legends addiction because shattering was so depressing they managed to invent everything required to play LoL and did that instead of shattering

[torn girder]

btw anyone feeling anxious while doing red shards with these op shard crabs? idk they make me panic for some reason

[mellow echo]

Wait the new season starts in 13 days already? The last one just ended

[mortal sorrel]

The jellyfish cape is ugly as HELL

[eager harness]

I’ve put in several feedback. No one is listening. They keep making the crabs more aggressive and improving on what is already broken.

[quaint grove]

the space between seasons tend to be only 2 or 3 weeks

[slate glen]

literally just manta cape 2.0 from what i've seen

[drowsy island]

reminder to please send feedback hopefully this season can be delayed for a well deserved bug fix and crawling improvements

[maiden pond]

Guys, can I show you something that I caught one day in #screenshots-and-videos of someone encountering what looks like something that would pertain to this crawling mechanic that may be the work of a hacker, although I can't confirm if it is or not so would you guys let me post it in #beta-screenshots-videos and if I get at least 3 down votes, I'll delete it because it is the work of a hacker? Like I feel this is something TGC was meaning to implement... I just wanna show you guys.

[mortal sorrel]

Yes , but if you need help go # questions-and-help

[hushed arch]

if this ends up accurate to the collab season i'm going to scream in agony

[iron elbow]

i will crawl all the way to eden for jelly cape, it's magnificent

[slate glen]

nvm i'm thinking of the baby manta cape whatever that it

[shadow stratus]

The baby manta cape has nothing to do with the original manta cape either , one is a baby manta and the other is an grown up, the shapes are different

[quaint grove]

i think jelly cape has its charm for sure. Krill cape on the other hand was something i was excited for and they only made 1 change that made it worse and then dipped

[eager harness]

It really is!

[oak remnant]

Jelly cape is a perfect material for cosplaying a walking parasol. I love it

[eager harness]

It’s ugly as hell. Nothing good about it.

[iron elbow]

why are u trying to make me hate it. cause i won't

[shadow stratus]

Yeah the jelly cape is fine actually, remember that different people have different taste

[mortal sorrel]

Like seriously you guys, the only good items in Shattering is the baby manta cape, the butterfly accessory, and the crab on the shoulder!?

[restive needle]

At this point even just a single news post that just says something like “hi beta testers” like to even just mildly acknowledge that this channel has been collectively on the same page of “This stuff needs to be fixed we don’t enjoy it at all” rather than just complete total radio silence. if no devs ever post in here again until the season comes out i feel like it’s just clear they fear the community’s collective opinion and know that they’re doing nothing that will make it change for the better.

[dreamy grail]

Shattering; 13 days in live
This year's finale; TBD (likely late August at a guess for testing)

[chilly wigeon]

What's about the ultimate manta cape

[maiden pond]

What did you guys think of that?

[shadow stratus]

The rotten mask, the both ults are great too

[iron elbow]

i will wear everything EXCEPT for the krill cape
maybe i'm not enough of an edgelord for it, idk

[mortal sorrel]

Sadly the butterfly accessory is in-app purse

[shadow stratus]

If i wear the krill cape might as well use the wasteland hair and the anubis mask, the most evil looking sky kid ever

[split sundial]

My favourite cosmetic this season has to be the manta hair 😭

[quiet obsidian]

honestly i like the light ult and the baby manta cape the most this season, the dark capes and jelly cape are too chunky for my liking?? i also know i’ll never wear any of this season’s cosmetics except the pendant because i never change my outfit 💀

[oak remnant]

I think when it comes to cosmetics being offered, there will be so many different views. And it's ok. I wouldn't shame other people choices of cosmetics

[distant spire]

black vulture cap

[spark lance]

I can agree with that! It looks gorgeous

[shadow stratus]

Oh yeah the krill hair is also fire

[torn girder]

mine is krill hair and darkness cape omg

[chilly wigeon]

I like how the manta hair is kinda bouncy and floaty

[mellow echo]

Where can I find a photo of the jellyfish cape

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[mortal sorrel]

And come the rest is HIDEOUS

[worldly scarab]

Wait days of summer ain't on beta right-

[quiet obsidian]

the krill hair looks a little flat? imo? but it’s pretty cool. Manta hair tho

[restive needle]

if jelly cape has one million fans i am one. if jelly cape has ten fans i am one of them. if jelly cape has only one fan then that is me.

[split sundial]

Manta hair has this dark fade... so cool. Wish they did the same for krill hair (and before you ask I sent feedback)

[chilly wigeon]

I feel like some of you guys are overeating about the items they are not that bad

[torn girder]

bangs really look flat from the front view😭

[iron elbow]

wow, some of us are keeping up the positive attitude here
alr, have a good one, chat

[dreamy grail]

Honestly the Jelly cape is cool, agree or disagree i won't hate you.
Jelly hair, yea there's some changes that could be done to make it less like Jelly Whisp 2.0 but yk...
Darkness (plant) items, they look cool, but they could do with a bit more detail to be more plant like, maybe some more texturing to be like the plants themselves rather than two solid colours.
Krill hair, decent love it.
Krill cape, cool looks well done.
Manta stuff, they're great
Crab; CREBBBBBBBBB

[shadow stratus]

Nah the feedback over the items are generally positive. The biggest deal is the krill cape why the hell there is fluff on it

[split sundial]

I have no complains about the cosmetics this season tbh... except for whatever that jellyfish cape is 👩‍🦲

[quiet obsidian]

i honestly just don’t like the way most of the capes are chunky but the items are actually pretty ok

[digital pasture]

and i'll wear it with pride >:oS it's one of the few things that give me something to look forward to next season!

[shadow stratus]

To be fair i think its nearly impossible to like everything in a season 🕴

[chilly wigeon]

I kinda wish the krill cape closed all the way but I like it's dragon wing shape

[split sundial]

And I KNOW people love the jellyfish cape and that's fine and cool. Don't get me wrong, hide your torches

[turbid spire]

The only thing i will wear about this season is definitly the elder manta cape
Because I really love oversized capes, manta style and the crabcall cape
And this mix of those three made me fell in love for that cape

[eager harness]

Nothing to look forward to about this season. Not even the failed cosmetics. That’s all I have to say about it.

[digital pasture]

i swear if the jelly cape gets altered because of complaints and no other problematic stuff about the ACTUAL season does, I'm going to just quit on the spot

[mortal sorrel]

Guys let’s admit it Shattering is the and I mean THE WORST SEASON IN THE HISTORY OF SKY !!! I really didn’t expect something like this from TGC , really lazy work, they could have made it the best but no !?

[shadow stratus]

Remember that something that doesnt met with your expectations do not mean lazy work

[eager harness]

I completely agree!

[mortal sorrel]

BRO HE GETS IT !!!!!!

[iron elbow]

performance is over, yall, turn down the drama for a bit

[chilly wigeon]

I feel like we should get back to constructive criticism instead of saying everything is bad

[turbid spire]

What if the jelly cape is more transparent with a little shade of blue and littles stars on it ? Like the jellys ingame

[quiet obsidian]

folks let’s not get TOO down about this season, there’s a bit of hope left somewhere, i’m sure. I just... haven’t found it yet

[eager harness]

I definitely do! There’s just nothing they could do to make all of this better.

[split sundial]

TGC when photosensitive people are having trouble with the flickering shards: I sleep
TGC when people complain about the jellyfish cape: ON GOD??

[minor falcon]

I think shattering is a cool idea, but if it runs for 77 days many will get bored

[mortal sorrel]

YES FINALLY SOMEONE WITH CREATIVITY

[woeful obsidian]

Watch all the cutszene in the temples from Isle too vault... Now i see the story with others eye.. After seeing shattering and the hints..

[heavy stirrup]

You don't have any complains about the horn? It's an exclusive item, and it doesn't do anything except for 1 single note. Look at the electric guitar, the season introduced a new mechanic of playing an instrument. Completely unique, they've set the bar. Best that they could do is produce an item with the same quality or something even better.

[torn girder]

true, they’ll need to lower prices too then

[raw wasp]

Why not

[eager harness]

This is about Shattering.

[spark lance]

That will probably turn most devices into frying pans

[split sundial]

Tbf? I never play instruments, I just put them on my back because they look cool albdkdbd
And krill horn looks cool. But yeah uh. I am not one to have an opinion on this as someone who doesn't care about instruments
However I did expect from it to have a mechanic or more notes

[turbid spire]

Wait
Does the krill Horn has a random reason to be use
Or it's just a useless prop which make noises

[eager harness]

Nothing can fix that cape.

[quiet obsidian]

we need frying pans so we can cook food to be able to wait out shattering

[mortal sorrel]

But all I’m saying is that their always creative this in not worthy of TGC

[dreamy grail]

Did you know you can bug the horn to act like an instrument and that it plays like the GW horn when the bug is done?

[shadow stratus]

There is nothing wrong on missing tho, if people dislike they can just not buy the season pass, not do the missions and avoid the stuff happening
Its not the end of sky

[split sundial]

I forgot to add. If you think that the krill horn is not right being just a thing that does a single noise feedback is always there. As I said before conformism is not a choice and if you think that is not right you definitely have to complain

[distant spire]

To call krills to battle

[dreamy grail]

Guys, just a reminder, don't be calling TGC lazy ect, yea y'all maybe disappointed but chill your beans JEEZ! Many Devs could be lurking seeing all the negative comments aimed at them, you maybe upset ab stuff but don't go insulting them

[turbid spire]

I wish the next season to be more about friendship and with less cosmetics

[mortal sorrel]

But this season is lazy work, seriously , then what is coming next

[shadow stratus]

Its not lazy work, they worked on something new and it isnt working out, dont need to call it that

[dreamy grail]

A large crossover season that Ash is involved in, so we're definitely getting good stuff, like if we look back on the seasons Ash has worked on, they've been really cool

[restive needle]

I think that the main issues of Shattering have like nothing to do with the cosmetics tbh, except maybe the prices of them and how lackluster the horn item is. Like just think about even if every cosmetic was changed to specifically appeal to your liking, would you still enjoy the season? If Shattering went live right now and the only changes were cosmetic related, none of the mechanics are expanded or altered and the shard events are 1:1 just like Beta I don’t think everyone would just decide to accept it.

[split sundial]

I wouldn't say this season is lazy work but rather poor execution of ideas. I believe TGC can do better because they have the potential to do so

[mortal sorrel]

But I KNOW that they can do better!!!

[raw wasp]

I mean we got an electric guitar with a whole new function last season, so I don’t mind if Shattering doesn’t have an actual instrument

[maiden pond]

Buddy, this isn't lazy. I'll tell you a game that's got devs that don't give a hoot about its players and instead expect money out of them for items in the game they have a LITERAL 0.1 OR 0.01% chance of getting.

[distant spire]

It's a job for money and not for doing a good job or laziness then

[shadow stratus]

Its not that you think that this is worst that its make it lazy work, maybe they put as much work on it than the others, its something different after all

[narrow current]

[mortal sorrel]

NO no girl that’s LAZY

[shadow stratus]

You being lazy to understand me ig
Moving on then

[heavy stirrup]

Fair enough. Although, there's a large group of musicians in sky and most are certainly looking forward to a new instrument. Yes, it looks cool but it's functionality is nowhere as near as being cool. It would've been reasonable if it was an IGC item, but it is exclusive. A let down TBH

[dreamy grail]

Imma head out before things get really heated up ab stuff and drama takes place so take care everyone, I advise yall take a minute and drink some water

[spark lance]

oh jeez

ngl i didnt expect the season to arrive so soon. its more lackluster than days of rainbow

[mortal sorrel]

Last season was AMAZING fabulous, but this one is just …. !?

[oak remnant]

Just what? Find a proper word.

[raw wasp]

It’s not lazy to invest a different kind of effort into something. I do think they’ve put in as much thought into this as usual. Just because we don’t like it doesn’t mean they didn’t put effort into it. The playerbase and developers will not always see eye to eye.

[restive needle]

bumping this again ^ I don’t think blaming the individual devs for being lazy is very respectful to the crazy amount of work that game devs as a whole have to do behind the scenes even if the players never actually see any of it ingame. I think it’s more likely to do with scheduling and maybe pressure to come out with new polished mechanics at the cost of a very experimental season.

[shadow stratus]

I am expecting, really, like really really, that when live update this week, that the timer gets removed/ increased on days

[maiden pond]

I didn't care much for Performance, I joined during Abyss, a rather... dangerous season I shall say, so having a peaceful one kinda threw me off.

[spark lance]

i would hope so.

[mortal sorrel]

The quests are good but the COSMETICS!?

[split sundial]

I am expecting two things this week

1. Days of Rainbow update in live changing the countdown
2. 0.18.5 update this week, being a big one bringing lots of changes for Shattering

[narrow current]

At this point im just sitting back and reading. But people remember not to call developers lazy. How about thinking about the degree of care and passion that went into past seasons and look at this one. Was there minimalistic effort in this seasons development? Should we the players who spend thousands of dollars just accept a faulty and lackluster season when we give tgc our hard earned money?
Sure maybe they aren't lazy but it isn't wrong to question the degree of EFFORT that they put in.

In my opinion which i am allowed to have the effort was minimalistic and very badly executed.

[topaz rover]

Performance was really sweet but imma be honest.
Not my personal jam. Small Map i rarely visit but it's aimed at créative people.
I don't hate it for that, but i got my dream pants out of that Season so...

It's ok to not like something

[mortal sorrel]

If they wanted it to be about the quests they should have tried to make so much items

[maiden pond]

Cosmetics may be the driving point, but they're not bad at all, they're decent, but nothing worth bragging about. It's not lazy at all, though.

[raw wasp]

That’s completely subjective. I think the cosmetics are designed differently than usual, but that doesn’t make them bad.

[shadow stratus]

The shattering cosmetics are awesome tho

[digital pasture]

not every season is build with the same quality, but every season brings something new to the table. What this season attempted to bring to the table is just not received as well as they had hoped. heck, I was honestly impressed they implemented the shards actually FALLING FROM THE SKY for this season instead of you entering the realm and seeing them. you can WATCH THEM FALL! and they've already done lots of work to try and appease the fans.
if it wasn't enough to appease you, that doesn't mean they're lazy. They said they were trying to experiment and a game company trying to change up a formula that could be repetitive in the long run is ALWAYS a good sign and most importantly, not lazy

[reef flicker]

Hiya! Anything new?

[restive needle]

Again, agree to disagree, and I don’t think it’s worth endlessly dunking on any of the artist or 3d modeler devs and calling them lazy. Objectively, making cosmetics is a lot of work and I doubt very much that they just slapped them together in the course of a day and were done with it, mainly because that’s just not how making 3D models works at all. But you’re entitled to your dislike of the aesthetics of course, I know they’re not everyone’s cup of tea.

[spark lance]

#delaysharttering a thread
Will shattering have more bugs than dreams?

And I'm here still waiting explanation about the table drive removal

[raw wasp]

Ie, the cosmetics are more themed off the creatures of Sky than being designed off irl stuff if that makes any sense so the thought process might’ve been simpler but the process of actually implementing the cosmetics is about the same as usual i assume

[split sundial]

Instead of calling the devs lazy how about you send feedback? Not to be That Person but if you really don't like something you give feedback about it in the right channel

[shadow stratus]

Table drive is there, they changed the wind behavior in general so it back fired into that
Now rocket go trough winds lol

[spark lance]

What do you mean no table driving????? We can't drive tables anymore?????

[narrow current]

Oh you mean the same feedback channel that has been ignored most of this seasons testing? Hehe. Not that i disagree with You but ey

[oak remnant]

How? I tried it recently and it didn't trigger anything 😔

[shadow stratus]

Oh then im mistaking the bugs

[split sundial]

HHSJSVDKD okay hands down that's true
But if you never try you never know

[woeful obsidian]

Next update is for summer lights... Not shattering anymore.

[spark lance]

Ye keep taking out our precious bugs that we crave so much for gameplay that we assume its features
We are starved of content and they take our food stamps

[digital pasture]

cant wait for summer lights tbh!

[oak remnant]

Tbf they did made some changes. So I would still say go on write feedbacks but don't hope much that they will implement everything you asked yk

[mortal sorrel]

Fine I mitt have overreacted but still I know their trying something new but still I shouldn’t have called it lazy I just have high expectations from TGC

[narrow current]

Ofc. Most of them being bug changes that were needed. But in terms of actual concerns related to the seasons gameplay etc. Id say it has been neglected

[split sundial]

Don't know about that chief we are still missing the second half of Shattering. Plus seasons before Shattering had stuff coming in their 0.(insert number).5 updates

[spark lance]

It's no good to call people lazy mate if you don't work with then how can you assume they're lazy ?
Feels bitter

[oak remnant]

High expectations will crush no one but yourself, bud 🫂

[shadow stratus]

I live by Kratos quote, low expectations, no disappointments

[woeful obsidian]

Who said that the second half is missing? Did tgc said that it's not all there will be more? Idts

[spark lance]

I'm curious to see what tgc has in mind for the upcoming summer event. Tbh I'd love some pool floats

[distant spire]

In assembly they took out several unusable objects and then they saw that it worked and continued taking out more objects like that, hopefully the same thing will not happen with the seasons.

[maiden pond]

Don't always have high expectations, you're more likely to be more disappointed. Valuable life lesson.

[split sundial]

Some devs said there's still another half missing
Ash is one of them

[narrow current]

You come from a place of understandable concern but at the same time you also need to cast aside personal feelings when it comes to topics like this and look in a neutral perspective

[spark lance]

Oh i would die for floaties

[minor falcon]

you can drive but can't go into a windwall

[twin isle]

Ash said a while ago we were still missing a lot potentially when shattering seemed p much done. But was a while ago. I do think we could get more stuff since normally testing continues after the season release to live. Wonder what we might see since we alr got the 5th quest. I'm keeping hopes low tho.

[orchid nexus]

reminder for beta testers: feedback comes in large volume and many forms. what you see and read is not all of what's considered, and development timelines are tight, so even really good suggestions that devs agree with might not get into development quickly or at all for many reasons. Likewise bugs that we all adore, and even legit non-bugged content that people like are never guaranteed to remain in the game. Bugs are tricky because fixing something critical always has the chance of accidentally fixing some harmless bug that players like

[spark lance]

When you don't even expect anything anymore from Sky, cuz everything felt like a chore, so you exploit bugs and glitches, but devs also take that away from you. So now you're thinking of "maybe this is the end" 😌

[split sundial]

Plus. Don't you see Shattering needs an urgent polishing? It should come in 0.18.5. It feels right

[shadow stratus]

Yeah,i dont think the table driving fix on a wind wall was intentional, they changed the wind behavior in a way that affect some interactions, not only bugs

[spark lance]

Haha i imagine the floatie prop to hang on your waist as you walk with it like a ducky

[oak remnant]

Idk, I found them adjusting the distance between shards due to many feedbacks that it trapped players is kinda good. But as you've said, the ratio between given to implemented feedbacks is quite great.

[woeful obsidian]

But still I don't think that new update bring us some great news. Maybe some new items for the tree in the spirits.. Because most are spells..

[digital pasture]

OH MY GODD.... you just put the imagery of skykids holding plushies in their hands into my head and I CAN'TTTT....
they deserve plushies after getting traumatised in shattering

[hollow compass]

It’s not realistic for them to release the season in this state, and then change it over completely 5 weeks into its run.

[split sundial]

The only thing I'm glad about is that TGC listened to the people complaining about the terrible crashings and FPS drops. That gave me a little bit of hope

[narrow current]

Ok but, shifting topics a little. Beach ball prop being a "backpack"
And days of mischief witch hat being an accessory

[woeful obsidian]

They splitted two spirits into 4. And put a lot of spells into. What are expensive in my eyes. I thi k it's an place holder.

[topaz rover]

Let us hug the crabs plz!!

[split sundial]

First of all I'm not saying they will completely revamp the season-
And I do agree the season should not be released in this state

[distant spire]

They really need it

[narrow current]

Always could be!.. Or just a bunch of trail spells we don't need

[woeful obsidian]

Tgc staff. Did you read this? Cam we get a little statement? What's going on?

[spark lance]

They should have made the witch hair a separate cosmetic from the hat. I'd love to wear that fluffy hair alone

[mortal sorrel]

THEORETICALLY: what if Shattering had a part 2, like the point of the game is to fix the the 7 worlds by fixing the gem , or by finding the 7th elder? 🧐

[split sundial]

Slams hands on desk
Anyway. I think I'm done with my opinion now. We just... wait. Until something happens with Shattering

[narrow current]

Both look great together but having them separately would be so amazing i agree

[woeful obsidian]

Yeah the witch hat on other hair look s good too.

[chilly wigeon]

Is the fire trial in beta broken for anyone else

[spark lance]

I honestly was surprised the notorious eden season everyone has been fantasizing about was released into beta. but unfathomably disappointed of the lackluster, underwhelming feeling i experienced once i completed the entire season. Youd think with something like a literal eden season theyd put way more time and way way more love and consideration. It just feels so half-a🤭d. I can only hope they extend the time before the new season begins. Like i can tell most of this time has been towards mechanics but theres just so much more to work on… I have seen tgc videos on their story creating and SCREAMS I JUST DONT GET IT 😭🤧 i dont get that “wow they really went all out!” feeling like i have with other seasons. Cosmetics, great! ( NOT YOU eyes krill horn ) Story: practically non existent. The memories didnt even unfreeze. I feel like they put enough work into the season activities , it can always be better.

I can only theorize that there will be an eden season 2 orrrrr tgc completely flopped. Cmon man i want to feel like Harry Potter and his friends but i feel like a 🗿

I'm tired of feeling bitter
I'm so invested on sky but i can't make all this beta testing consume me so i rather treat this season as drop in the bucket in the end they're free to explore new ideas(that's great tho) and we are free to deslike some changes but in the end it's just a season that gonna pass just like other seasons so i feel no obligation to feel so frustrated with things like "it's to difficult" or "can't do without my friends" in the end i thought the same things about the trials and all worked well for me
I just hope for the best and that we receive a polished season and all of us can enjoy it. 😂

[hollow compass]

But you said lots of changes in 0.18.5? That update will not be released to Live for at least another 7 weeks. It’s too late for any major changes to a season that has already started.

[oak remnant]

Yes, the candle doesn't charge you

[spark lance]

archive the season

[heavy stirrup]

I just wanna ask TGC for 1 thing only, I won't mind about the stuff that's going on the background. Dark/Krill Armor PLEASE! ... Please pray for me 🥲

[minor falcon]

alr did

[mortal sorrel]

What if after fixing the worlds you get a wish , to be a STAR and just how you get your wings you lose them but you can still fly because you would be cape less????

[split sundial]

Lots of changes does not mean complete revamp???. Lots of changes could, for example, be. Idk! Adding cutscenes to the memories we already have
And even if 0.18.5 is not bringing these changes, a new 0.18.0 should. Because I admit I completely forgot 0.18.5 is indeed a late build, I admit my obliviousness

[maiden pond]

Carme: can do!

[spark lance]

crossed my mind too… though i think its lore the 7th elder is just crying for days and the rain isnt rain but her tears

[mortal sorrel]

WOW 🤩

[distant spire]

TGC: read and archived

[spark lance]

7th elder might blow my mind

[restive needle]

Here are my main issues with SoS so far:

1. The mechanics of the Shard Events are unwieldy and just not fun, no matter how much polishing is done to them. They’re actively hostile and difficult to players who are new or otherwise aren’t as skilled at movement in Sky or have issues with their hardware (I play on Switch a lot and I’m DREADING doing them with even a minor drifting issue.) The changing of already established mechanics like the deep call will no doubt cause confusion and grief to people who aren’t at all prepared, and the punishment of losing so many wings at once necessitates spending more time doubling back through the realms to collect them all over again.
2. The repetition without variety or clear fulfilling payoff. The interactions with the creatures and “freeing” then are very well done in my opinion, but they lack the feeling of reward that comes from completing a quest. There’s not a clear narrative showing us WHY we have to do this other than the fact we already are conditioned by playing Sky to know that darkness plants = bad so we gotta burn them. It’s so straightforward that there’s no intrigue outside of just further illustrating “Eden is causing bad things happening to the world.” Which we already are well aware of.
3. The lack of accessibility for people with disabilities like migraines or conditions that cause photosensitivity. The visuals of the season are really wonderful, but at the same time the amount of flashing lights, the SUPER dark area, and just general issues present already in Live Sky like bloom intensity are an absolute nightmare for people with these issues. As it stands now if we want to get the cosmetics we’re going to have to actively cause ourselves pain to do it, or just won’t be able to participate at all. Which sucks a lot when the game promotes inclusivity and community so much.
   ^ i’m gonna put this in feedback

[hollow compass]

It’s already been confirmed there won’t be any cut scenes.

[mortal sorrel]

WHAT IF THE 7TH ELDER DIED AND THEN THEIR WAS A NEW ONE BUT HE WAS AFRAID

[restive needle]

I think that’s more of a lore speculation discussion than a beta discussion tbh

[mortal sorrel]

LIKE….. THE LOST CHILD OF HEAVEN!!!

[spark lance]

could someone confirm this plz. today we only have one shard location near rose and gives regular candle wax?