beta-discussion

[spark lance]

This must be a test season
Just like Perfomance gave all the players what they wanted
Owl hair
Skirts
Hair covers
Hoodies
Now they experimenting and seeing what work and how much the playerbase can handle.

I guess

[naive solar]

I don't know when I said it, but I remember saying TGC is under the impression that revamping injury systems and adding a crawling animation will make Eden more than a source of currency. At its current state even if I went there with friends I think all of us would be annoyed, and none of us would be emotional...unless they want us to feel anger.

It isn't that simple unfortunately. Eden in my eyes is still very much a source of currency.

[analog citrus]

Yeah. I’ve gotten like 1 or 2 AC from burning shards. And the Shards are just for this season right??? So I haven’t seen an alternate source of AC yet

[livid gulch]

Where's the shards at I hidden forest

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[teal glen]

The problem with requiring social play is that there aren't always other players in the same area as you. Server merges don't always bring more players to the same area, and playing at low-traffic times has always been an issue for opening multi-player areas.

this will definitely be easier on live since there is a much larger playerbase, but it's been incredibly painful on beta already. I can't help but worry as someone who plays at low-volume times.

[spark lance]

Orbit has been the emotional experience. Eden does not have that same strength Orbit does.

I cry at Orbit because of the beautiful music and chorus calling out one last time to go home.

I'm cocktailed full of adrenaline during Eden as I work my way through saving whatever I can with whatever I have left. I feel an emotional dullness mark my thoughts when perishing.
But that's it. I don't feel upset or sad when I perish. I feel accomplishment.

This crawling mechanic will take away that accomplishment feeling and leave me with the emotional dullness feeling because well, I didn't, and can't complete Eden anymore.

[dreamy grail]

Pretty sure the shards will be permanent, unless TGC state otherwise.

[spark lance]

I hate going to eden runs
And i do see it as a source of currency

I just go there when i need ascended candles to buy traveling spirits

Just like a college student asking for mom's credit card

[hollow compass]

I've turned off the over-powering music in the game, even though I listen to and enjoy the soundtrack on Spotify fairly often.

[fluid quail]

I do eden for the sentiment & tagging along with friends.. but I believe it only become that way for me cuz I no longer need AC.

[torn girder]

technically shards would be the only way to access shattering guide after the season so it would make sense. but from the other hand i dont think everyone will like seeing shards every single day while candle running. they give me a bit of anxiety tbh

[spark lance]

It could have an special area for the events just like grandma and geyser

[grave jetty]

Just feedbacked a possible tweak: crawling players shouldn't be subject to wind resistance. This makes sense from a physics standpoint, but it also introduces tactical choices in late Eden: without wind resistance crawling may actually be faster than walking, but without any charge to protect you, you lose light much faster. There are times when you might actually want to crawl, even though there are certainly times when you don't.

[dreamy grail]

They'll probably be like in the off hour x2 in the hour every day during live season then like once every 6 hours post season is my guess?

[oak remnant]

Tgc: "eden is designed to make you feel emotional"

Does feeling frustrated count?

[spark lance]

You're mid-CR and see a shard fly into your area without warning. Suddenly it's very difficult to complete your CR in Prairie.

[haughty pine]

On the flip side, it could also be a stepping stone into a more positive arc that allows us to see some sort of hope or bright light at the end of the tunnel as far as long-term fixing, because right now Eden is... Well, it's a sweet ending, but it's also rather bittersweet, because when you think of it, it's a rather endless cycle. If this is a series of seasons, as it could possibly be, then I hope it gives us some sense of being able to move forward and help the world of Sky.

[teal glen]

I'm pretty sure shards are only going to be active until the next season, otherwise the narrative wont make sense

[naive solar]

As for some of the previous comments, I don't think they implemented crawling to make Sky more challenging. I think it was simply a side effect of how crawling works in general, and it turns out to be incredibly frustrating. I think the new injury systems are welcome changes to drive players to cooperate more. However, if it's gonna remain in this state, it's best that they keep it outside of Eden, and only for shard events and dark creature attacks etc.

[spark lance]

Make crawling a walk mode just like flight mode and crabs don't hit you because you look like one

[spark lance]

I wonder though, with this now being said, does this possibly imply we'll know more about the things we saw in the Switch Trailer? Those sights we saw weren't nothing. I've analyzed TGC doesn't do things for no reason.

[dreamy grail]

Ehhehehhe TRUEEEEE, maybe we get to see the eden king and be dragged back through time or something for the quests in said sequel season

Also heya Boatmod, how you doing?

[teal glen]

Crabs start crab dancing to crawling players

[torn girder]

it’s still an emotion so..

[spark lance]

Sky Civilization? Why do we only see Spirits? Could there be alive equivelants of Spirits?

Could we possibly see that in the near future?

[haughty pine]

My big concern for the injury system is probably a bit of an obscure one: with the way that statues freeze at the end, how does that cutscene even work? Do Skykids get up as they're running out of WL?

[haughty pine]

That would be very cool

[oak remnant]

What a success then 🤩 /j

[spark lance]

Then again if there's an alive equivelant of spirits, that sets a horrifying precedent for certain spirits...

[torn girder]

imagine being at grandma’s but today’s quests are in hidden forest and the rotation is at grannies.. i don’t think that would be a nice experience with overpowered shard crabs and in general shards just being there the whole time💀

[haughty pine]

That would be fascinating! I would love a Season of Time or a Season of Memories or something... That would fit in very well, I think.

I'm doing pretty good! How about you?

[haughty pine]

True... Just not the one we want.

[dreamy grail]

Oh Boatgirl did you see what I said earlier about the death limbo room?

(Replying to your message now) TRUEEEE that would be so coolllll ahhhhhh (Ktjn get the notepad out )

@torn girder for players to be crying in fear of crawling for 30 mins while spraying a contrail of wings

[spark lance]

(If you know, you know. I'm not going to say anything. )

[torn girder]

tgc didn’t state what emotion they need so

[hushed arch]

season of recollection

[spark lance]

This does likely imply they do not want people experiencing Eden to feel frustrated, @torn girder. "We" in this comment likely implies TGC's staff and developers.

[nocturne dew]

Just ran Eden again with 122 stars. Managed to miraculously get ten AC. A slight improvement from previous builds. But also holy crap it took me an hour to get through Eden. Ouch. 😦 usually takes 30-40 mins and then a flight through orbit. I really dislike the crawling mechanic as is. And cool they added lamps in PNR but…..how are we supposed to use them?? My light was out long before I even reached the first statue. Even with the improvements this is still a bit much. The added lamps feel straight up insulting. It’s impossible to light them. Why can’t we just have one or two that are ALREADY lit and can offer us a minute of refuge from this blasted flippin CRAWLING. 😭

[chrome ivy]

TGC: We need more Seasons
Beta: Here

[torn girder]

i know that “we” is TGC stuff, that’s what i meant

[spark lance]

But imagine a hopeless moth lost in wasteland
No one stop to help em they're out of lights and lost and then a big krill see then and they try to runaway but-

Bam
They got hit and their precious winged lights get lost as they crawl trying to reach it but it breaks as soon they get there it's so pitiful why you did it tgc WHYYY

[grave jetty]

Some of them are supposed to be already lit. Are you saying none of them were lit for you? That's a bug.

[nocturne dew]

None of them were lit, no.

[dreamy grail]

Boatgirl, here's the death limbo idea I had if you wanted to read it, I crawled over to feedback to see if Devs like this idea

[naive solar]

Could you elaborate on this a bit?

[spark lance]

(gonna bump this too as it's an idea based off of@dreamy grail's suggestion)

[grave jetty]

I thought the new death animation kind of covered this.

[chrome ivy]

People think they need to survive at Eden, instead of dying it. It more like Battlefield 1 (Game start/Storm of Steel) you can check it out, it at least has indication of you supposed to die at that scene

[haughty pine]

I did not! Could you reiterate or send me a link back to it? I'd be interested to read it!

It really would be! It wouldn't surprise me if they do something along those lines, given that one highly-animated trailer we saw one time that we... Never got any info for And I mean, TGC does plan their seasons out like a couple years in advance, so it is possible that they're doing something long-term! I really liked what they did with enchantment, where the area physically changes the more quests you fulfill... I'd love to see something like that come back again.

[nocturne dew]

Also really hate that we can’t use spells or emotes when we aren’t lit. :/

[haughty pine]

Oh, is there a new death animation? Cool, haven't been to Eden in awhile. Nvm, concern taken care of!

[spark lance]

Oh, right.. No more death dance...

[spark lance]

You know what who cares about the lore of rebirth? Who cares about it right? /J

[nocturne dew]

The new death animation is actually great and perfect. It is more emotional and I like it. But everything else about these changes really is a bummer. No more shooting confetti while cheering on that last friend to survive in Eden…no more emergency recharge potions. It just feels more and more that TGC only wants us to experience and play Sky in one way. :/ it’s very disappointing.

[dreamy grail]

AGREEDDDD, that would make the whole concept really cool, maybe even a "be safe out there kid" message shoe up at the bottom as the screen fades to black after the child goes poof as we get reborn with neon

ANDDD for you @haughty pine #beta-discussion message

[haughty pine]

Yeah... I know even in Live, that confuses a lot of players. I had so much trouble trying to lead my dad through Eden without telling him "look you have to die here" because he had too much video game experience to just blindly charge into the pain thing while low on wings

[spark lance]

My confetti they took my confetti!

[tight bloom]

Maybe the emotion TGC wants to evoke is anger all along

[nocturne dew]

All I know is that the cascade of all these changes currently in beta makes me feel like Sky is far LESS enjoyable. Not more. 😦

[chrome ivy]

The Game: Rush to Eden, don't care your Wing Light. You supposed to die here. Don't worry you will revive and go to heaven.
After go back to Sky world again.

[spark lance]

Sky kids never go to heaven

[dreamy grail]

That's literally everyone after beta invites open, its a speedrun to complete eden and visit the seasonal spirits

[sterile cobalt]

i miss following friendd as a spirit doing the juggle emote while they get hit by rocks 😭

[haughty pine]

Oh my gosh okay I like this idea. Put this in feedback! Because the moment I almost cried wasn't my Skykid in Eden or when I was running out of light, but when I got hugged. That just... That hit me so hard, because it was like this message that I really needed to hear at the time that when I had given all I had and I couldn't give any more, the people I had given everything in me for hadn't forgotten me. And I think also you can interpret it as self-compassion, too. But it has always bugged me so much how awkward the cutscene transition is in that hug scene, so I think making it into a crawling scene would add so much more emotional impact.

[nocturne dew]

All I know is that this is the very first season in my three years of Sky that not only am I NOT looking forward to it - I’m actually dreading it. :/

[spark lance]

Forwarding this... You're okay with being pinged so they know you told me to forward this right?

[real karma]

it is a little awkward yeah-

[haughty pine]

Yeah!

[spark lance]

Delivered.

[dreamy grail]

Hehehe I saw skybots ping on ya hehehehe >:D

Boatgirl how long have you been in beta?
Have you tried the blue flight pants with the Jelly cape?

[twin isle]

Kinda sad that the only reason I really like the season atm is the cosmetics. I hope they make the shards a little more doable. They're doing so much work on Eden it makes me feel Eden will be in one of the quests, otherwise they're severely neglecting the season to have us test Eden if it isn't involved with the season at all...

[dreamy grail]

Agreed ,like if tomorrow's quest isn't a huge part of eden with some huge cutscenes, I'm pretty sure everyone's gunna riot-

[shut shuttle]

Is it widely known about the wl on the manta after the shard trial?? I only found it as I was flying amongst them...?

[spark lance]

The chorus I hear near the end of Orbit before the credits just gives me the sense that some greater being, perhaps Eden itself, is crying out that I return home. It's a lot of emotions to process at once and putting it into a sentence does not justify how I genuinely feel as I'm flying home. I do cry very heavily when the chorus picks up. And the fact- the fact I can honk to sing with the Orbit music's voice, god. It makes you feel things.

If they keep this build as it is now
I will guess they made so much money lately they don't need it anymore

[empty river]

i believe it was added recently, so no

[dreamy grail]

People only just realsied today so this is basically news to us all, at first I think people thought it as edited and lies but turns out it's genuinely there so everyone's been taken by surprise

[twin isle]

I drew darkness umbrella but let's be real the season needs so much work mechanically and gameplay wise I doubt we'll get more items added

[empty river]

currently theres no way to revisit old memories either, so rip that shiny boi

[dreamy grail]

I SAW THAT, did you see my suggested feature in reply?

[spark lance]

darkness umbrella may ruin the value the Umbrella STAR pin has but let's be fair- the people who have it are very rare to see, + we need more photos of people with umbrellas in Sky lol

[nocturne dew]

Can’t relive any already completed memories from the season guide. I just tried to see if I could get that apparent star but none of them work.

[twin isle]

Yes it would be real cool if it did 🤲 I think might be a little hard for tgc to implement. I'd be happy if it just glowed slightly blue my bar is low lol

[shut shuttle]

I've put a screen shot of wl in in beta ss... its sort of hidden so u have to fly up..

[twin isle]

My design and that star pin is real different the umbrella looks like a darkness plant.

[signal folio]

Question:
Has anyone recorded how long new eden takes?

I'm thinking about recording how long it takes me to lose 20 WL in the rock rain section in live vs beta.

[dreamy grail]

It takes about 3 seconds to lose 20 in dark water when extingushed
I only wanted to see extinguished elder manta cape but NOOOOOO wings go PEW PEW PEW

[spark lance]

I mean on a functional level. I love the design, I love everything about it, but I'm referring specifically to the functionality.

Perhaps it can work like over time, the umbrella will become too heavy because the darkness plants are consuming the rain and you need to shrink it down near a flame? Then again, it would mean OG umbrella is pay to win, so perhaps not...

Make it drain light slowly

That ruins the point of umbrella entirely.

[twin isle]

I think adding functionality to items would be great, especially when it's unique functions. I don't think it should be too bad to have more umbrellas and ults since we have three. I don't see the harm in having another. Maybe we have too many umbrellas tho but I would like more variety

I would think it's cool if it dripped that black stuff that foams up on darkness plants, idk how to describe

[signal folio]

I guess though if they make eden brutal that it will really encourage players to do shard cleanups for AC but honestly I enjoy eden and can get like 15 AC in 40ish minutes (live) versus potentially like 1 hour + doing shards

[spark lance]

I'd love to see more portable umbrellas. I specifically refer to the ones that you don't place, but hold and carry around.

[spark lance]

No one ever said we had too much pants

[empty river]

we can never have enough pants

[haughty pine]

Also, here's my thoughts on Eden: when I first played Eden, my initial thought was "holy crap, I've never understood why people still make art about Pompeii... Until now." I suddenly understood the fear of being surrounded by raining rocks and waves of darkness and being suffocated underneath the burning, molten ash. I understood why this was something that still lived in our imaginations 2,000 years later. This was a terrifying fight to survive in the horror of something gone wrong, and the Skykids encrusted with stone and the statues I was lighting brought back this visceral sense of fighting against the forces of destruction itself with everything that was in my tiny little Skykid body... It was fear and determination. And in the end, I spent every last ounce of determination in me into saving others. That was determination, and I was going to keep going and stay on my feet until I couldn't possibly do anymore.

And then I died. And I remember the shock of it. "Did I actually just die?" ... "But I don't want to die! I don't want everything to be over! I don't..." ... "I don't want to be gone."

And then there was nothingness, and my Skykid was in pain, and then there was a hand and a hug and this moment of compassion and love for each other in darkness was the catalyst in saving things.

I think if TGC wants to throw more emotional impact behind the Storm of Eden, they need to emphasize the environment of Eden, not the Skykid's response to it, because the environment and my fight against it was what moved me... And then emphasize the Skykid's pain in the void. Right now it feels flipped around, and so I'd love to see the atmosphere of Eden made darker and the pain of the pity room made more noticable.

[twin isle]

Why don't you want more holding umbrellas? we only have 3 that aren't limited items (bc I believe star pins are limited)

oh wait wording confused me. You said wanted more carry umbrellas?

[spark lance]

Consumed by Darkness, you find salvation in what Light hides in the one place you thought you'd never go..

[spark lance]

Zoro of umbrellas

[dreamy grail]

WOAHHHH that's actually really interesting thinking about Pompeii and stuff :O

Hehe me and my partner at the time (relationship basically ended a month after that) struggling with the first area of eden and it splitting us or her having to go repeatedly... Tho... I kinda had a rushed sheltered moff-hood... I basically got dragged everywhere, I didn't get told what seaosnal stuff was and I missed LP unfortunately because I wasn't told anything at all
I didn't he quests but like.... Missed out on Soooo SOOO much
After two months I was already in Valley elder hair and was in flight pants-

[spark lance]

Yeah! We need more carrying umbrellas that aren't pay to win or require a STAR pin!

It'd not only make for good photos, but perhaps it'd even be a silent nod to helping moths who are holding your hand because they turned on assist mode..? Moot points but we still would like umbrellas that aren't locked behind paywalls!!

[empty river]

send this to feedback i beg 💥 💥

that was beautiful

[hollow compass]

I take it you don’t do Eden very often.

[dreamy grail]

Oh wow that's a lot of TGC Devs on-

[leaden oak]

Sky pc WHEN

Man i can't imagine how sky graphics will look on pc version ! it def would have native res and unlimited fps and better graphics i mean more advanced graphics than mobile

[haughty pine]

Done!

[leaden oak]

How to pronounce your name

[dreamy grail]

I highly doubt this will ever happen, think of how many people would just exploit the files and uncover stuff that's not even ready in beta and stuff... It would make things highly complicated-

[haughty pine]

I do not.

My general ritual is that I do Eden whenever I'm having a chronic health flare... Now that I have more medications that work, I'm having less days where I have to spend basically all day in bed in order to recover. Which is good on one hand, but on the other, it means that I don't do Eden nearly as often as most people.

[dreamy grail]

Giccix, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's "ghis-six" as the pronunciation?

[haughty pine]

It's pronounced a little bit like "G-6"

[leaden oak]

Hm that's true but if you look at genshin it's even crazier on data mine 💀💀 maybe tgc will release a separate .exe launcher where we can download sky

[signal folio]

I think a rpg prequel PC game would be cool I just wanna see isle of dawn like it is in the switch trailer

[empty river]

idk what ghis sounds like sorry jsjs

but boatgirl is right

[haughty pine]

Also, I just scrolled back to see your message and absolutely, Cosmos — agreed! You sent this to feedback, right?

[leaden oak]

Oh i have been pronouncing (in my head) as "guh sik" like some sorta anime dude gluping idk why 🙏

[buoyant berry]

Guys shards today are absent? I can see red atmosphere but no shards

[leaden oak]

Yeah because i ate that

[dreamy grail]

Yis I did send it into feedback straight away, then others perked up and added into the idea
(Just a thing I'll mention with heart reacts preferably the for me because the common steryotype and also me being in a relationship offput me with the red/pink heart reacts, and anytime I've brought it up, especially in here, I've had a lot of people basically shame me for it and say they won't respect boundaries )

[dreamy grail]

Yes I bet it is... Like Sky fits best as a Mobile/Console exclusive because you literally cannot access files in any way (beside photos) but with the whole file access for PC, it's so easy to go in and swap files in, because any bets a vet would share a duplicated file of their stuff and people would drag cosmetics and stuff in illegally

[chrome ivy]

What did you mean old memories
There's none 🗿

[dreamy grail]

Like we can't access memories after we've done then was what they were saying

[lament flax]

This may sound weird but do you guys know where to exchange graduation cosmetics (the krill and light creature cape)? I mean i now got 2 season hearts but i can't find the location of it

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[twin isle]

Like if you've done ancient memory 3 alr for quests u can't do it again

[dreamy grail]

The are bugged and are due to be re added next build

[chrome ivy]

Actually , all datamine from Genshin is from Beta lol. And I might already making two Mods lurking angry

[nocturne dew]

I would have loved to see an actual story for this season featuring like…the elders. We don’t NEED spirits to give emotes for a season. But we NEED spirits to tell us about the story we are experiencing. This season is so weird and abstract. It’s just so task centric and there’s no real story. We could have had the elders reliving how darkness fell upon Sky and how Eden was broken. But instead we get weird (admittedly cool) dark rooms with static scenery and angry crabs and crawling. I just can’t get into this season. There’s nothing that draws me in besides the cosmetics. Nothing. There’s no meat to this season at all.

[twin isle]

What's even more sad is the static memories (while cool) don't even tell a story either. It's just creatures

[hollow compass]

I think you will find that the emotional aspect of Eden wears off after a while. It’s a challenging realm, but for most players it’s just a way to get currency.

I understand what TGC is trying to do, but I don’t think this is the game for that.

[nocturne dew]

Exactly. There’s no cutscenes really. There’s no spirits. There’s nothing but some static creatures to look at. And while they are gorgeous and interesting there’s still nothing there. It feels very very lackluster for them going on about all these “exciting” new features. :((

[split sundial]

Yeah... I feel like the season needs more... storytelling. And an emotional factor. Spare some Eden lore,,, this must be one (if not the only) chance they have to do something about that lore

[desert token]

I was today years old when I realised only your own skykid has a reflection in the void - everyone else is just floating in the air without a twin to match them. said it in-game and I'll say it again, makes me feel like I'm surrounded by vampires

[spark lance]

I don't ever think there's a possibility of a cross platform with pc versions because of the size of the serves and people probably would fill the games with bots
(We already have a bunch)

[lament flax]

Anyone know?

[spark lance]

Sky already have plenty of beautiful mesmerizing landscapes and amazing views so that don't impressed a lot of skykids
We see that every single day
But we love our spirits i bet we all loved the performance spirits and how they're full of life and then the next season there's no spirits

[nocturne dew]

We absolutely love our spirits - those spirits are what connect us to sky FAR more than the lovely scenery. We all have favorite spirits. We all love our season guides. We all love our TS. Having no spirits this season (even if it were spirits we already know!!!) is really sad and weird. :((

[hushed arch]

yeah there's no emotional value to this season at all except boredom and wrath. if it weren't for the cosmetics i wouldn't be interested at all

[shut shuttle]

I was wondering this too today..

[chrome ivy]

What spirit you can add if you are Gameplay Designer at TGC? This season is different because no Spirits can fit into this seasons theme

[spark lance]

I wanted more content
But not to replace what we already have but to add more 😔

[nocturne dew]

If it were up to me, I would add the realm elders to this season. To show their story about how they reacted when Darkness came to sky. Their struggle with Eden. There’s so much potential to really give the spotlight to our elders for this season!! They wouldn’t even need emotes - just be there to be our storytellers for this season.

[chrome ivy]

The only complain is Injure system and Cutscene, is your average TGC no context storytelling again

[spark lance]

Would be fun to have something with the elders they're pretty much lacking content

[hushed arch]

there is no story being told, period, except "rocks fall"

[chrome ivy]

Rocks go Brr

[spark lance]

They're starving the lore kids !

[desert token]

this is just re-iterating a point already made by others here before, but I think they should have included more cutscenes with the skykids we saw in the seasonal intro one. it could also have been interesting to go a whole nother way and introduce “creature elders” or something who each have a domain (crab, jelly, manta, krill) etc. - and we see how the origin of all these creatures. doesn’t necessarily mean we have to buy cosmetics from them - just adding any sort of character would be nice

[chrome ivy]

Also, the fallen Sky kids on Eden.

[dreamy grail]

#beta-screenshots-videos message

^ wing location and how to reach it

[desert token]

with the way the seasonal quests are currently set up we might as well not have had any actions bound to them at all - how about just adding the shards as a gameplay feature and then having each "quest" instead be a memory into the past we get to be an observer in

[calm wedge]

No shard-crabbies today?

[leaden oak]

An anti cheat will detect modified software and will ban a user or even temp ban.

I wrote a whole lotta stuff in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived

[haughty pine]

Oh! I'm sorry! I meant to do a different react because I know you prefer not to have that react sent to you, but I must have slipped into autopilot mode when typing. I apologize, and thanks for telling me, Cosmos — I'll go edit it into a different reaction.

[chrome ivy]

Easy, add EasyAntiCheat. They can specify what file to be protected and will refuse to launch when some file got hijacked

[hushed arch]

oh yeah is it possible to finish seasonal quests today or nah

[desert token]

the answer is always dubious. yes ppl have finished a quest using shards today, but I myself am on my 11th shard trying to complete Q4 - as are many others

[hushed arch]

where are the shards spawnin' today?

[desert token]

in the boneyard, and after temple clearing

[chrome ivy]

Also, it's possible to have implement a hash checking function to detect every cosmetics data to be correct. Although it's imperfect because it can sometimes have same hash with others causing errors but it will be faster than checking the files individually and that thing have 1.47*10^-29 chance of colliding same hash

[dreamy grail]

It's okayyyy dwwww ^^

[cursive tinsel]

Is it just me or do you have more success getting the ancient memory when you meditate on your own at the end?

I often get nothing in the void when thee are 2 or more of us who enter Medi at the same time

[spark lance]

After I meditate I get yeeted into the void and nothing happens there. I keep looking for something to interact with or to interact with me. Nothing. Just teleport home and ask myself "what?"

[cursive tinsel]

I don't know then...trying to find a pattern in all these bugs/intentional changes is tricky

[hollow compass]

I thought maybe it was device specific. But there doesn’t seem to be any pattern.

[glacial barn]

I've only completed up to the third so far. First time was solo, the following two were with other skids present. How many times I've failed before/between... I lost count ^^;

[topaz rover]

Really Hope we get to see all the light & dark creatures converging around the huge Eden diamond before it got to shatter in a cutscene (with the king operating it as a bonus plz? ) or else it'd be a huge missed opportunity...

[sterile cobalt]

i think the new season is cool but honestly i think i'd like it with more story lol
i struggle completing the quests because theyre the same thing over and over, and time-based so i have to be on at certain times and yes i know theyre every thirty minutes but it'll be different in live 🥲
that and this is a lot to not have much to, i was hoping for more telling why eden is erupting all of the sudden(though i love the end of quests as they are still)

[quaint jungle]

A lot of people would think this season would be in eden, like every other season.

Not this at all, its repetative and feels like some mini event to play on while a season is active.

Its not fun knowing eden gets harder with the rewards being less, and the season itself is anything but skill

[sterile cobalt]

id like more things like trials but this is not what i was wanting, this isnt a fun trial its a trial of how mentally taxed will i be by the last quest of "relive 5 memory shards" or something and you have to relive one per realm idk but

[quaint jungle]

When i think of trials, i think of parkor or controling my sky kid to a new location. Where you need coordination and memorization to easily get the finish line.

This is just, do the same thing over and over and over and over like you did with candle running! But make it the whole season

I get it you want us to visit the past seasonal areas. But im getting sick of doing the same thing with nothing "fresh"

[sterile cobalt]

i wanted more parkour stuff because that means more hide n seek places
but yea i basically meant its a mental trial if that makes sense? like a trial of the mind to get over doing something repeatedly when that something isnt exactly enjoyable either 😭 but i get what youre saying lol
and yes i do visit the caves of prophecy a lot

[quaint jungle]

Prophecy is the only season that isint collect this, collect that. Its actually a fun season that isint numbingly holding your hand 24-7

[sterile cobalt]

i liked dreams a lot and while it is my favorite, i do like how prophecy works a lot better
id like more seasons like prophecy so when they said it would be i thought it wouldnt be,, well, at least less of what it is lmao

[quaint jungle]

Dreams is nice in terms of story, i got emotional there (also my first season). While prophecy is gameplay based

No clue what this season is leaning to right now...

[glass spoke]

making us suffer

[quaint jungle]

It isint suffer to become better and gain more. Its just suffer because we want to make it hard in the worst way possible

[sterile cobalt]

i barely missed prophecy i was a dreams moth lol
but this season is just. "you see those big glowy red rocks? look but dont touch, just burn everything around it to the ground then watch it shrink into nothingness and have that feeling of accomplishment right? now do it again 50000 times 🌚"

[glass spoke]

LMAOOOO

[quaint jungle]

I straight up skipped prophecy, could have been a prophecy moth but didnt play till late december. All i can say fire trial is hard as hell as a newcomer-

[glass spoke]

as someone who played prophecy from the very beginning to the very end, it was a vibe, a vibe that none of the recent seasons gave off

[sterile cobalt]

absolutely, but now its one of my favorites to run aside from earth and water (i just like all of them i might as well just say i like all of them)
glad i was a dreams moth but i want the anubis mask so bad

[quaint jungle]

It was the only season that felt like a game, it isint collecting with 4 people, collecting while flying, collecting while swimming. It is rewarding and will make you feel acomplished

[glass spoke]

prophecy-suffering actually brought the community back together because we had something to suffer for rather than... well, just because. we got to decorate the cave, we got four wings, the new season areas were interesting etc

[sterile cobalt]

and i like using earth trial for hide n seek 😌 its rewarding and still fun if you try to make it so

[quaint jungle]

I hate the new seasons suffering, not because you need to learn how to get pass it. Its just cleaning and waiting

Worst part theres nothing fresh and new for old players, like cmon i seen the place for months now

[glass spoke]

as Akanimnon mentioned before, "you see those big glowy red rocks? look but dont touch, just burn everything around it to the ground then watch it shrink into nothingness and have that feeling of accomplishment right? now do it again 50000 times 🌚"
it's funny and all but,, it's the sad truth

[sterile cobalt]

it makes me want to have that massive brazier in vault by praying acolyte (why don't we have that) and just put 6 of those down and watch every form of plantlife and crab life burn (except the nice crabs in sanctuary 🥲)

[glass spoke]

i don't see why i've to suffer so much like,,,, what will change if i do it, let's say, a hundred times? will i get something else other than currency? something interesting?

[quaint jungle]

Imagine eden with candles on the area, thats the whole season in a nutshell

[signal folio]

I do worry about the quest being boring or irritating. It really is just burning plants while your light drains and getting smacked by crabs. I already burn plants all the time during cr

[raw wasp]

Honestly as cool as some of the stuff is i’m thinking abt not buying the pass this season. Its cool but like… hmm…

[sterile cobalt]

i love the cosmetics but thats like the only thing thats not even getting me to complete the season in beta 😭

[glass spoke]

if you're lucky and get merged while doing the quest the plants just disappear 😭

[glass spoke]

bought the light pants and hair, for me the season is complete

[sterile cobalt]

i want the grand manta and pygmy manta capes but thats the only thing getting me to open beta other than look for bugs

[quaint jungle]

Honestly this season is the complete opposite of abyss.

Abyss has meh and lackluster cosmetics but had a decent seasonal tasks

This one has good cosmetics and one of the worst seasonal tasks, not newcomer friendly at all

[glass spoke]

"eden season" had so much potential man 😭😭😭😭😭

[quaint jungle]

Prophecy isint newcomer friendly, but it aint just cleaning up the area over and over. Or is painful as hell to do

[stuck rose]

I just had a thought why we have statues of both light and dark creatures and cosmetics but quests all concentrated only on dark side

[glass spoke]

meh geometry dash is worse

[quaint jungle]

I was so excited for the new season, until i saw the new tasks. What even happend?! Why did they decided to make it not eden related at all

If i expect an eden season i think the new area will be in eden not scattered around the whole area just existing

[signal folio]

If you merge then what even is the point something has gotta change.

I just want some more puzzels and I've been begging for it since prophecy. Thay season was so fun and the only one that was still enjoyable to play in live after playing it during testing

[glass spoke]

i thought nintendo playground will bring more challenge into the dullness of sky

well

[quaint jungle]

Oh yea, i forgot the nintendo area after 2 weeks of it happening

I never seen anyone with the switch cape. They only buy it for the link items

[stuck rose]

We need more Dasha Traveller vibes

[glass spoke]

THIS is what has to change (no not you, the lacklusterness of everything brought into sky lol)

[spark lance]

Also the asteroid cape (ig that's the name, the green IAP cape from little prince). Does anyone go to that cape's area?

[quaint jungle]

The problem with sky is that theres so many features that are never used.

No one uses shared spaces, used props unless being in hubs, shrines are practically rng to even use. No tutorials on newcomers or a guide on whats even happening

[glass spoke]

i go there lots with friends

[signal folio]

Continuing:

Part of what drew me to sky was the puzzel features, and it was recommended to me because of that in the playstore. More rooms like boogie, 8 player but more advanced would be cool and add more things to do in sky.

One of my favorite features is the bell stomps in sanc, I think adding more emote activated stuff is cool, that was another feature of the game that I really enjoyed

[quaint jungle]

I have the cape, i only visited a few times... i guess its a good area to talk privately without friends?

25$ for a private plane ride 💀

Only got it because its a collectable

[glass spoke]

there was a guide back in the day (light awaits) but only for basic friendship/seasonal stuff and it was removed for god knows what reason

[sterile cobalt]

i like the area but didnt wanna spend $25 on it, so i just go with spells til im out

[glass spoke]

i use my friends /hj

[shadow stratus]

The shared spaces are used, i just think some of them are in bad spots but they are used quite frequently, i wish we could have one at home

[grave jetty]

Learning how to handle the shard tasks was fun at first. When this drops in live, I'm going to dress as one of Dwight D Eisenhower's Men and swoop into shard events to rescue people and all the skykids will swoon at my dashing and awesome presence, and that'll be awesome. But I'm done with the learning, and it just doesn't feel like there's much else to the season. Just shards and more shards. I hope more is coming soon.

[stuck rose]

In my opinion those special capes are kind of investment to your social skills
People will ask you for help or will offer trips to special areas potentionaly growing a group of new good friends

[quaint jungle]

The only shared space that is used the most is DP hub. The rest are in specific areas no one goes or are too far away

[spark lance]

it felt more like an event than season, missing a connecting lore

[shadow stratus]

But i do think they are not used enough because tgc dropped the props idea long ago, and the props were for the shared spaces i think

[quaint jungle]

Pretty sure they dropped it due to the constant leaks linked to it.

[signal folio]

In essence, this season feels like just seasonal quests and lacking figures/characters to ground and guide the story. I'm all for interpretive dark spaces, but I was really hoping we'd get the prince. I dont need a whole troupe of characters, but I need something to emote with besides other players you know?

Without characters and an area it just feels like grindy quests and getting candles for cosmetics. Its lacking soul, and I say this with love for the game not just to bash

[shadow stratus]

I thought the same buut they manage to make an prop for the belonging mom being added later, they could do that to avoid it, but they just really drop it aparentally

[quaint jungle]

I cant really call this a "season"

Since it lacks all of the things that makes a season... a season?

No spirits, no new location, no new storyline. Its a glorified event that acts like a season because it has cosmetics

Like whats the difference between days of nature and the new season? Other than it has more spots that can happen

[glacial barn]

Well, I guess they weren't kidding when they said it might not feel like a season ^^;

[glass spoke]

this one is more emo

[woven cedar]

This “season” sure is a head scratcher

[quaint jungle]

And everyone suffers and dies in the middle of it while the rest clingging for their life 💀 👍

[signal folio]

That last bit is what gets me.

And I welcome the new feature, but I think it's lacking grounding and story to go with it.

I could define the theater as a new feature, but would performance be any fun without spirits?

[quaint jungle]

I thought it would be an adventure style and exploration than aimlessly visiting the same area over and over

[coral cosmos]

season of shattering has the potential to be great, especially as the first eden-oriented season but it really falls short of what it wants to be. it's just very underwhelming? especially with the repetitive quests it's just. boring imo

[woven cedar]

Did the blog not mention it being Prophecy-esque too or similar to it? It just doesn’t feel like it ||side note: I’d love to see more interiors in upcoming seasons||

[quaint jungle]

Like trials but more fleshed out, theres less story but more lore and challange. Wondering the new areas where the new spirits become checkpoints.

Its not forcefully giving you a hand and its solo and multiplayer friendly. Maybe a forgotten ancient area? or anything NEW

[signal folio]

Also... where the heck is the diamond going to be after Shattering is over? How will new players access it?

[timid valve]

I was hoping that there would be a new seasonal area from the entrance of Eden where you can change clothes and stuff. I feel like an entrance to a new area would fit well there without interrupting the main Eden experience, but that’s just me.

[woven cedar]

the only other thing i’m looking forward to now is that mystery collab at the end of the year

[zenith mist]

shattering reminds me of abyss in that tgc took a very commonly requested theme (underwater/eden) and did something completely different with the theme that nobody was expecting... and then the end result is lame and makes me wish they did whatever generic stuff everyone was asking for instead

[signal folio]

I think the problem is scope, a simple and strong idea can produce a great season

That's why dreams was so good. The story was simple: young child from a small town trains to make it big in the big city (kinda)

[quaint jungle]

I wanted abyss to be good, but i hated the season in the end. Assembly and now this season shared the same fate.

Assembly is just collect this but lock behing a player wall

And this is just... im not gonna repeat it like a broken radio again

[zenith mist]

the season is just so. nothing. its barely even a season. its like adding a new geyser event and some (imo kind of boring) cosmetics and expecting us to be happy with that for 70+ days
its sad bc this is definitely a lot of ppls dream season, and who knows if wed ever get another eden season after this? thats smth else i didnt like about abyss, they really did nothing w the pirate theme and now we probably wont ever get a good pirate season since its been done b4

[quaint jungle]

Only seasons that i liked are prophecy, dreams, flight and performance

[spark lance]

my favorite seasons were enchantment little prince and dreams

[timid valve]

I’m not sure how this season is like prophecy? Prophecy had the trials which were pretty unique to the game. Maybe I’m missing something?

[shadow stratus]

This season is like prophecy, it is half challenging and half boring

[quaint jungle]

Enchantment and TLP are good beginner seasons for android/switch players to learn more about the areas on sky. Those seasons are alright for guiding the players hand

[zenith mist]

god i wish tgc hadnt mentioned prophecy in that article

[woven cedar]

Burning dark plants then getting teleported to vague stagnant statues

[spark lance]

i think it was supposed to have "story" like prophecy but so far we've come up empty handed

[coral cosmos]

i just hope they will take more time to develop this season, even if there is a larger break between performance and shattering. i think the wait would be worth it if it meant the season would be more fleshed out and enjoyable

[quaint jungle]

Nah at least prophecy is fun to do it again and again, trying the best route to finish it asap or racing with friends.

This one tho erm what do you do?

[calm sequoia]

Yeah i expect the last quest to be the same as all the other ones have been. Repetitive

[signal folio]

I still have hope for a prince or king reveal, but so far I don't feel like there is anything building to it and new players will be confused

[shadow stratus]

Fire and water trials are basically wait to move, air and earth is the fun parts that actually depends on the player skill but air also lasts for too long

[quaint jungle]

Water is my least favorite due to being a waiting game, fire is only fun with friends but air and earth were fun.

Its the only season that felt like a game, unlike 90% of the seasons we gotten

[zenith mist]

i think we need to stop considering seasons that have murals lore seasons, im sick of all the murals they were cool at first and theyre really pretty but at this point id rather they actually show us stuff, it feels like such a lazy way to convey the story

[shadow stratus]

Im still looking at this season is more like a break that they are taking to fix bugs maybe, its odd to me that they decided to change the props out of their bags nearly the same update

[calm sequoia]

Yeah agreed murals should be history not stuff being put up now

[timid valve]

At least it was something to do besides candle collecting idk 🤷 I liked that it was trying to add a new gameplay element, even if it made me rage a lot lol

[woven cedar]

Which is why I’m holding out hope for the animation project to provide us with some lore at least

[quaint jungle]

I would honestly skip the seasonal tasks and just get cosmetics. Thats how i hate them atm

How would tgc even fix this. They only got a month left and they cant just overhaul the whole season.

Tbh people will not like this season when it goes to live. Even people on reddit shared a similar opinion

[umbral haven]

I think I'm probably just going to buy this season for the cosmetics.. Is the crawling mechanic still as painful as before, and did they still remove players being able to be lit from honking?

[shadow stratus]

Players cant be lit from honking if they are fully out of light, its not an issue

[zenith mist]

the animation project seems cool but they shouldnt need an entire show to convey the story of a video game. like showing little details of the past and how people lived is cool, but weve seen so little ingame theyre probably going to use the show to dump all the lore

[signal folio]

Exactly

I know they want the lore to be a little interpretive, but unless you're a buff or part of the sever the average player doesn't catch all of the king references etc.

This season could be so cool if they linked that so new players could be like "king propaganda is everywhere "

Also, why not show us more of how light creatures were drained? Show us where krill came from? More tuna king? More happy crabs?

[quaint jungle]

Tbh they should prioritize the season more than this animation project. Why not use the animation team to fix the season? Give emotions on what the sky players should feel.

[woven cedar]

Didn’t they get like a massive budget recently?

edit: cha ching😳

[zenith mist]

this season wouldve been the perfect opportunity to have proper animated cutscenes showing memories of the past and maybe even showing how eden got this way. but no cutscenes for whatever reason lol

[woven cedar]

I’d love to see it in the style of the Elder cutscenes

[sinful sierra]

Has anyone had a problem with torches or power recharge points? they do not work!

[quaint jungle]

I wish i can not look at beta and stop worrying on whats happening on the new season. But everytime this happends, luckily performance and flight didnt have this fate

[shadow stratus]

The black room with memories was a good idea but there is just sky creatures , i dont get the point

[signal folio]

Also, serious question: what lore are we getting? I don't know what the void rooms are trying to tell me. What does swirly mantas and a ton of crabs mean

Like I'm not a buff but I know a good bit about sky and it's not clicking

[woven cedar]

again they’re just floating stagnant statues, like what are we supposed to deduce from that? 💀

[calm sequoia]

Its like getting a sneak peak but no reveal

[quaint jungle]

They uh... floating in the void! Yes this has a very deep meaning that the common mind wouldnt understand.

It means they ran out of ideas

[zenith mist]

i mean even flight quests were pretty underwhelming they were just fetch quests, i didnt have any motivation to do them until the last week of the season

[topaz rover]

The créatures are going to Eden is my guess

[cursive tinsel]

I only just realised the light statue/spirits in the void are a mix of jellyfish and manta
But the dark is only krill

What if the ancient memories showed these coming out the statues and into the horde of them in the static scene

Also , should there be a winged light to find in every ancient memory?

[quaint jungle]

Thats me with newer seasons after dreams :')

Every single newer season a fetch quest

[digital pasture]

Dude yes exactly!!! Multiple people have already voiced they'd rather have a while of nothing to get things PROPERLY fixed and I totally feel the same way!

[timid valve]

Yes, at least they unlocked the wind tunnels I guess. I’m not sure what burning the darkness around the shards is supposed to accomplish

[signal folio]

Especially after seeing the season concepts we were going to get flying courses and races but instead I got a cloud cave that is too big and confusing

[spark lance]

doesn't that show the community is writing the story for a game that only has vague clues and nothing is actually being written?

[quaint jungle]

Thats just asset dumping on an area and call it new content

[woven cedar]

The same thing with Abyss’s cosmetic concept art. Why are the concept arts for these seasons so much better than what we get?

[signal folio]

But these aren't really clues. It's just a room full of crabs. I have no idea what to do with it

It's like if the word "the" was a clue

[plain falcon]

[spark lance]

it reminds me of SU in a way, the story was written so poorly that the fans had to do all the work with theorizing, but the credit still went to the creator

[zenith mist]

i think a problem w having the shards be a permanent event to gain currency is that it feels like all our work isnt actually going towards anything. no matter how much darkness we burn, eden will never stop erupting and we havent actually fixed anything

[woven cedar]

still irks me the diamonds were redeemed so quickly

[quaint jungle]

All i know is that uh, yea this is where the edgy krills, mantas and jelly fishes live. Only the cool kids who joined this season can see it!

You see these grandma orbs? They befriend you...?

[cursive tinsel]

It's like geyser and turtle...the ocean is never clean

[signal folio]

Sky is meant to be cyclical. It's always going to be a constant struggle between light and dark, birth and death

So I will give them that even if it's annoying

[calm sequoia]

Grandma orb spirits💀

[kindred fossil]

Which I’m hoping this is just a part 1 of… something, dunno
But that sounds too good to be true

[spark lance]

i wonder what other people wouldve done with this season

[quaint jungle]

Unless they suddenly dumped a map, change the tasks and make it fun in under a month. I doubt it

[twin isle]

Would be nice if the shard stuff, by the end of the season, instead was contained to the gate right before Eden after entering Eden realm portal. With the crystals you light. Then at least it's feel like we did a little to contain it since it'd go from the realms to eruptions only occuring in Eden where we burn stuff

[signal folio]

Say less blob incoming

[sterile cobalt]

i love the new season area but there were some things from older seasons that were the reasons players kept going back right? like the quest being different each time like letting everyone explore the seasonal area regardless of when it started, aside from the first four

[woven cedar]

Hey Dark

[quaint jungle]

Imagine the newcomers just wondering... wheres the new season? Why is there nothing new? Why are older seasons look much cooler than this

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[zenith mist]

the cyclical nature of sky just doesn't feel good as a player. the whole game is just earning currency to lose all of it in a day, burning the same plants and lighting the same candles every single day, sacrificing ourselves to eden every single week with no changes. it doesnt feel good as a player. it feels like im working towards nothing, and the game is working towards nothing.. which appears to be true ig

[mortal escarp]

was the darkness plant mask always in the ap side? or was it just switched there in the recent update?

[woven cedar]

I've been working around in a 3D software called Blender and let's just say I had some ideas 👀

[timid valve]

It was changed to be ap I think

[twin isle]

"gaining currency to lose it all in a day"
man. I felt this. I've been playing for a year and the only reason I have lots of candles is bc I'll buy half the season on ones I like.

[quaint jungle]

Every non ap holder is forced to wear the light side as a cape... is this season even ftp friendly?!

[spark lance]

In general I'm okay with the quests being hard i mean look at fire trial-

[kindred fossil]

No, not now, it’ll continue on to another season or a different type of events alongside seasons

[spark lance]

it seems ive summoned a hurricane

[sterile cobalt]

hard is okay but maybe less mundane

[twin isle]

What does this mean "forced to wear light side as a cape"

[quaint jungle]

I like hard but rewarding quests, this is just eden but your controls have joycon drift

[spark lance]

Welcome to Sky

[spark lance]

No edgy allowed 😈

[timid valve]

Only the light side has ftp capes

[twin isle]

If they added another dark side cape it'd balance it. I think that's the case because there's so few dark capes

[quaint jungle]

Isint the hair also light side as well...?

[sterile cobalt]

i get that sky as a game is very repetitive but at least the seasons werent really, what im calling mundane being the season and not the game as a whole
i play games and music sheets all the time in-game so its a lot more to me than just doing the same thing over and over

[twin isle]

Krill hair is f2p dark side

[spark lance]

So the main problem in this season are the crystals
So our job is to clean the crystals so every quest gonna be cleaning the crystals

[coral cosmos]

the fire trial gets easier to navigate with experience, learning the path to the end and places to avoid the creatures. it's fun and challenging. shattering's quests so far aren't even challenging, just time consuming to burn the plants (they seem to take longer to burn than regular dark plants )

[quaint jungle]

I feel like they need to balance both light and dark, so it will be fair on both sides.

[spark lance]

There's no fairness when a side lack a pant

[spark lance]

so we're the cleanup crew?
even though we came from a floating cloud in the sky as shooting stars and can talk to spirits, we're cleaning emo shards..

[woven cedar]

the spirits are all laughing at us cleaning up their mess

[kindred belfry]

So when the season of shattering ends, will we continue to clean up or..?

[twin isle]

Got a repeat of abyss in terms of engaging quests but worse. Abyss at least had interesting post and pre quest cutsecenes, but the quests were all fetch quests for most part. Shatter and abyss both had no real explanation as to why or motives. Both are do the same thing over and over again for majority quests, but shatter has absolute crumbs for post cutscene and no pre cutscene for quests...

[quaint jungle]

Imagine wanting an eden season so bad, you think of cool things like a dodge krill feature.

But no you get is crawling debuff and this

[sterile cobalt]

i love the trials, my favorite area to cr aside from sanctuary and citadel, and i would love more things like trials
i was pretty excited for shattering bc it said it would be somewhat like prophecy on the page, buut all im seeing are statues and burning things all day every day

[spark lance]

At least abyss gave lore

[signal folio]

Ask and ye shall recieve

1. Prince is the QG, we confirm the link
2. When we meditate we still go into void rooms but things actually move in them and it recounts scene from the decline if eden which includes: why krills are used, the production of power diamonds, the siphoning of creatures, the first darkness plant blooming, etc.
3. QG cutscenes are like usual and reveal story and lay out a mystery of "what caused this"
4. Final QG scene shows the king and their greed being the cause (I assume this because Sky is low key inspired by the Dark Crystal)
5. Once season is over you can find the prince in orbit (in concepts they would fly with you into orbit)
6. Eden crown ult #3

[woven cedar]

i think they said its a permanent world event

[spark lance]

in my opinion abyss was extremely forgettable despite giving a swimming mechanic
because are you really gonna swim anywhere ever again?
and i only remember mega krill, no lore 😭😭

[quaint jungle]

The first few tasks were so bad, one ended in under a minute.

Only thing it went good was the dodging krills. That one was fun

But the season ended with "free the manta task" 💀

[woven cedar]

Can you work at TGC, please?

[sterile cobalt]

ooh id love things like the intro to fire emblem: fates where it has the war moving then stopping into a standstill picture
and maybe have the eden crown as something like tlp sword pants bit permanent, so maybe more like the f2p mask from abyss ?

[twin isle]

I'm getting depressed over this. There's no way that they're going to be able to change anything when most of us can't even do the quests still and the shard events are so buggy. I'm really sad

[spark lance]

can i be the art designer for your season?

[spark lance]

I hate it here why WHYYYYYYYYYYY we could have everything

[woven cedar]

i still go from time to time to get clams

[kindred belfry]

So I guess tgc is taking a edgy no return stance on sky no idea how this will overlap with new seasons of friendship and light. Guess I’ll enjoy live while I can

[quaint jungle]

When people here have better ideas than tgc 💀

Idk whats their experimentation but this aint it

[twin isle]

I would but the sunset sanctuary event gives tons of clams and big ones as well. I just go there for clams

[calm sequoia]

What does QG mean?

[spark lance]

Sometimes i forgot where i got this red cape
And then i remember its the ultimate reward from abyss

[keen egret]

I still go to get clams too, but only like once every two or three weeks when I actually have time for a full cr

[digital pasture]

The devs honestly don't even need to do a whole lot to make these "memories" more interesting, tbh!
Like, just pose some spirits doing mundane things.

Memory 1: A parent carrying pots at their house with their partner while two of their kids play around, with a normal looking mountain in the background.

Memory 2: one of the kids trips so the parents console the child. Meanwhile the other kid notices something about the mountain.

Memory 3: Eden explodes and the family flees.

Memory 4: simply, a ruined building we already know. Maybe one of the towers from daylight or something.

It'd basically be like the switch trailer but TBH? I would already be miles more content with that than this. They don't have to make a lot of new assets and just reuse old ones... and boom. Something more engaging!

Hell, even such a tiny thing as seeing a spirit in their TRUE colours would be miles more impactful than this.
Imagine seeing a spirit we know without the starry glow and actually... solid. It'd be so jarring and interesting!

[spark lance]

unless they postponed and retconned the whole season, i say we have no hope of major change

[signal folio]

Honestly I would, I want to be a developmental editor and help authors

But im in school for now

[high charm]

this is actually really neat but unfortunately tgc's made it pretty clear they aren't gonna give us any concrete info on the lore 😔

[twin isle]

I feel they won't postpone because then everything else will be crunched... This sucks we only have like what? 6 weeks left?

[quaint jungle]

This season is a lost cost tbh, and if everyone here has backlash oh god lives an absolute riot

[zenith mist]

its very sad how when tgc tries to branch out and do cool new things nobody expects it ends up being.. not great 😐 during both shattering and abyss i just ended up thinking "man i wish they ended up doing a generic season instead"

[umbral haven]

please put this in feedback, tgc needs to see this
and hire you

[spark lance]

Would be nice if we helped the memories turn into real spirits

[final garden]

If TGC actually planned on changing much about the season based on player feedback, they'd have brought it to beta earlier

[spark lance]

they could post pone it and give themselves more time, live might be a bit boring but still that means a season taking a long time must be good right?

[twin isle]

I feel it'll be bad but not as bad when live discovers. This always happens it feels. We test it all at once and get to feel collective upset in rapid succession while live gets breaks between quests and that anger can fade.

[spark lance]

Seems like the skydom won't give TGC a break

[keen egret]

I have a solution!

If they don’t give us any concrete lore, they can give us jellyfish lore! After all, jelly is basically the opposite of concrete haha

[sterile cobalt]

i think the worst part is everything is still very buggy, and while yes i know beta stuff it would feel a bit too soon for it to hit live lol
i mean last update to live has quite a few holes in the terrain in sanctuary and at least one ive found in sunny forests' caves

[signal folio]

Yeah I wish they'd give us a fraction of this

[nocturne dew]

Oh my gosh I really hope this is not the case. For this shard thing to be permanent every half hour would 100% make me quit Sky. That’s too much.

[high charm]

I still have hope for the last quest, I'd bet money it'll be in eden. hopefully it also shows us how to piece stuff together from the pieces of memory in the first couple quests

[quaint jungle]

I wish i could just quit sky but want to complete everything. This season does not bring hype nor excitement

Like cant you think of anything new that isint torturing the fanbase?!

[twin isle]

I've a feeling they won't since next season will be Collab. They will probably not want to risk postponing and rushing Collab season since that's when they typically rack up iaps.

[opaque cipher]

It's ramped up for beta due to testing purposes, confirmed by the devs, it will be every other hour, likely in between geyser and grandma

[sterile cobalt]

tlp was in eden so why not eden related season

[signal folio]

Jelly lore > all else

[final garden]

All the more reason the shard daily needs to stay a beta daily

[spark lance]

Sometimes i wish i wasn't a beta player because the feeling of having so many ideas and see it all being wasted is so overwhelming and crushing

[high charm]

they've made so many upgrades to eden, they're definitely sending us in there for the last quest

[zenith mist]

the shard daily is just going to be another repeat of nobody knowing how to get old nature cosmetics

[twin isle]

Can the team that worked on dreams come back and give us another season like that where cosmetics and ults were stunning and story made me tear up? Please?

[quaint jungle]

I wish i dont need to look at beta chat just to see how horrid the seasons are going to become...

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[sterile cobalt]

last quest: suffer in eden and crawl around for 10 minutes while not losing all of your stars and ultimately ragequit

[nocturne dew]

Still. Plenty of these areas are places I like to RELAX and chill out, play music and hang with friends. Having this be permanent addition to the game would completely kill the relaxing and uplifting vibes I enjoy in Sky, where it’s OPTIONAL for me to go to places like wasteland and Eden for a little conflict. Uggghhh. That’s so depressing if this is permanent

[keen egret]

Didn’t the devs say that this season was more about testing whether or not a new mechanic would actually be feasible? So not that this season would be great, but so that they had the technology to make future seasons great?

[woven cedar]

dreams was ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL

[spark lance]

imagine if instead of performance we got a season that led up to this one full of lore, and then we get more lore this season .. that would truly be like an ice cream truck to me

[final garden]

This exactly. That was a disaster, which they'd know if they'd set foot in #questions-and-help during Nature

[opaque cipher]

But it's not every realm every daym just avoid that one spot

[quaint jungle]

Tbh they would 100% do that. Why add the emotional factor of eden? New content for the seasonal tasks!

Asset dump to new cutscene and boom seasons done

[high charm]

season of sanctuary is almost 2 years old and we haven't had another season with an area that stayed so busy after the season ended

[sterile cobalt]

dreams + prophecy would be incredible my favorite season for story and my favorite for gameplay put together, perfection

[final garden]

The lighting still changes in every realm, so it's not quite so simple as just avoiding where the shards are

[nocturne dew]

It’s still too much. Even avoiding whatever daily spots this happens in it still sucks that it would happen permanently at all.

[spark lance]

Dreams had such emotional grip on plp it's amazing how until now people still talk about it

[quaint jungle]

Pretty sure tgc is getting so much negative feedback...

And im not supprised

[timid valve]

I agree but then how would people relive the spirit memories for it in the future

[spark lance]

in my opinion i really feel like performance is a rip off dreams, it was cute and it was nice to see our skykid talk, but i still didn't get that feeling of wanting to breakdance like i did for dreams

[zenith mist]

watch them be like "we heard your feedback about there not being enough story so we added more 😚" and it just ends up being more murals and a cutscene showing some mantas flying away or something

[sterile cobalt]

i think i dislike more the fact that the season quests will be a timed event thats a pain to complete in time

[kindred belfry]

I beta tested dreams and I can say for a fact: despite the bugs the hype was through the roof ||minus the hat controversy ||

[high charm]

we don't know how this'll be implemented in live, and we don't know how it'll be implemented after the season ends

[signal folio]

Yeah

BUT I always enjoy seeing the outpouring of ideas. Theyre honestly very lucky to have such a creative fan base you guys have some amazing concept art

And hey, we got rainbow headset to happen
There is some hope

[spark lance]

They got that ratio lmao

[twin isle]

I heard Eden season and I was so excited. We all were so hype and excited when we saw the preview, sending old corrupt king concept art, and hoping the story would be good and cosmetics would be plentiful. There's no lore, no Eden crown, and only two ults, and so many bugs. I can't believe how far my hopes came crashing down.

[final garden]

Because they could afford to push Rainbow back. I'm not sure they gave themselves enough time to push Shattering back

[quaint jungle]

Nah nah, we would see orbs just flying away or moving, now the quest giver moves and you can hug it to death

Litteraly you die

[digital pasture]

Actually!! I have a question about the team! Has it changed a lot over these past years?
Because the EARLY sky maps like the aviary and the base game have such a starkly different vibe from the seasons and their new locations. Do they switch around devs every now and then?

[twin isle]

Ash was in here and mentioned that they were on a different team working on an upcoming season. I assume that means they have rotating teams staggered to work on different seasons and things.

[spark lance]

"it all fell , it all fell down, it all fell down🎵🎶"
i can relate so much, i just wanna know whats up with eden, not do another boring burning something quest

[quaint jungle]

So this team could have made abyss, and assebly?

[high charm]

hey guys, can we not try to blame seasons we don't like on specific teams that we know nothing about? I've seen this happen with other video games and nothing good ever comes of it

[umbral haven]

Dreams was my moth season and that season brought me even more into sky than I already was, it was so emotionally impacting.

[twin isle]

We aren't sure. I do wish that whoever made dreams would come back bc I haven't felt that good season cosmetic combo in a bit performance was okay, but I'm bitter about the iap shop harmonly hall.

Performance was close we got to a dreams feeling season for me imo. Sad that the seasons before performance and after dreams didn't have the feel. It took almost a year to feel like we got something even close to on par imo.

[spark lance]

I can see what you did there

[digital pasture]

I'm not blaming anyone! I'm just trying to make sense of why the base game and added extra areas have a different energy and feel.

These seasons and events have been nothing but a joy to me and I'm only speaking from a place of love!

[golden steppe]

guys, does anyone know where are the shards today? One is after the temple clearing but the other one?

[quaint jungle]

Im not sure if this season is like this due to time constraints or lack of direction.

I just want a season that lets me hook on the game for a few months

[spark lance]

i think boneyard

[spark lance]

I feel like that kind of cosmetic placing was pretty great but also a double edged sword in TGC's perspective since sometimes what can sway someone from getting an AP is just one ult or cosmetic

[high charm]

don't worry! you weren't the one that prompted me to say that, I could tell you were just curious

[spark lance]

That's me i only buy ap for cosmetics

[twin isle]

True. I got tlp solely for star collector and the rose ult. The balance is hard to do, but not having any darkness capes be f2p is wild to me

[spark lance]

assembly still gives me, a solo player nightmares

[golden steppe]

where is the boneyard? Edit: thanks!

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[kindred belfry]

To this day the moths still struggle

[spark lance]

I mean the placement for the past few seasons and even the IAPs have been pretty outrageous to say the least

That's why all assembly moths are bitter

[zenith mist]

is anyone else kind of bitter about the krill cape being an ult its such a highly requested item that ppl have been asking for for such a long time, and now its going to be another limited time item that ppl r going to be asking for copies of

[quaint jungle]

I have to ask 2 friends to help a newcomer. It sucks that newcomers are forced to wait hours or go to social media to ask for help

[spark lance]

Same but that's what TGC does with really unique capes, put them behind a paywall

this is off topic, i kinda wish some spirit capes change your flight speed wouldn't it be fun to just go zoomin with a pink cape or something

[spark lance]

And different trail effects

[kindred belfry]

My sky group majority dropped the game after dreams, so I was alone for most of the quests during the season. Was a pain in the rear, even when people were actively seeking to do the quests

[digital pasture]

Tbh I feel that way about the manta cape too. I don't think it should ever have been an ult because of how common mantas are in the world of sky

[spark lance]

Ofc do you think half of those players would consider buying the ap if it wasn't a ap?

[quaint jungle]

The krill cape will repeat as the owl hair ult. And then people break tos to get it or become envious to the cape

[spark lance]

most of my friends dipped after prince, which in my opinion, is the best and most intriguing season that isn't enchantment or dreams

[final garden]

Not the most friendly solution (and I'm definitely not claiming this would be the best solution), but I kinda thought it'd be good for them to transition to IAPs once the season ended, so that players would still have some chance to get them

[twin isle]

I also think that. Krill cape is first of it's kind and been desired for a while. There's no way tgc doesn't make a krill cape 2.0. only question is when will they.

[torn girder]

this krill cape is so ugly to me tbh

DONT "💀" ME😭

[zenith mist]

even if the krill cape has to be ap locked, why not give it to the darkness spirit so ppl can get it after the season ends? and then the ult cape is a leviathan cape or something

[kindred belfry]

Since shattering is here to stay they’ll have plenty of opportunities

[quaint jungle]

They could make a crab themed cape or a darkness flower pants for free

[twin isle]

Tgc went: hmmm people have been drawing and begging for krill cosmetics and especially a krill cape since the game started? Make it an ult. That'll get them to buy AP even tho there's no story

[spark lance]

Bc ult make AP sales go 📉

[timid valve]

Leviathan cape would be really cool actually. I’m still so intrigued about where the leviathan even came from

[spark lance]

Shadow cape
THATS NOT THE KRILL CAPE THO THEY'RE COUSINS

when you guys say leviathan do you mean the really big whale?

[vagrant fable]

Big krill from Abyss

[timid valve]

I’m thinking of the giant abyss krill

[woven cedar]

ruby

[kindred belfry]

Mother of krill?

[spark lance]

when the typo gets your message deleted

(i saw that rae, i feel bad lol)

[twin isle]

I got dusted. I think king krill from the season of abyss will be the next krill cape 2.0 rendition for sure. Probably will be an ult too and they will make like baby krill cape like they did for baby manta cape lol. Wouldn't be mad to see baby krill tho added to game

[high charm]

idk about y'all but I have actually had some strong emotional responses to this season and have been enjoying it

[spark lance]

Omg guys i saw a dragon cape at wasteland that's so rare

i just know nobody remembers seasons like sanctuary, assembly, and abyss, like seasons that have water are just cursed

baby krill

terrifying

[digital pasture]

I've actually been thinking about this as a fan concept! like, something similar to harmony hall, but as a clothing shop!

It would have some permanent IAP cosmetics and (but this might be thinking too ambitious) a spot reserved for a travelling spirit to stay a month. Not a new one ON TOP of the 2 we get monthly, but a rerun of a spirit we got earlier in the year. I feel like this would kind of lessen the severe FOMO a lot of sky players are dealing with 🥺

[torn girder]

kinda suspicious ngl

[vagrant fable]

My emotional response has been unfiltered rage and despair

[timid valve]

Ughgh I don’t have the money to buy every ap

[zenith mist]

i sure have had a strong emotional response but it has not been a good one

[spark lance]

just cause you cry at a season doesn't make it a good season - yoda

[high charm]

so none of y'all had an "oh no" moment going into the assembly area while a shard was active

[woven cedar]

Lowk closed the game out

[torn girder]

this is smart

[spark lance]

dirty trick but i won't contest it, it's smart

[kindred belfry]

Wait yea, do the shards impede doing the other seasonal quests? Imagine you’re doing assembly and you get sniped by a shard

[spark lance]

That would actually be funny to watch

[fast skiff]

Unfortunately, that’s a violation of Sky Terms of Service.

[spark lance]

||inb4 tgc sees this 💀||

[signal folio]

Extreme eden is cool
I think saving people is much more meaningful and going to eden is a bigger choice. I think eden being harder solo is a good choice to get the player behavior they want

[zenith mist]

i mean the shard stuff is scary and sad to see but at the end of the day that doesnt mean much when the gameplay kinda sucks. plus this is going to be a permanent event, its going to get boring very quickly for many ppl

[frosty trout]

@torn girderno, it's an exploit.@twin isle I've removed your post. Please don't discuss behavior that breaks the game's TOS

[quaint jungle]

It would get boring mid season since thats all the tasks

[spark lance]

Scatter!

[vapid briar]

[spark lance]

That was fast

Nooo pls don't bean us amsk

[torn girder]

oh no

[signal folio]

Two of them

[spark lance]

The devs are here

[kindred belfry]

[nocturne dew]

That’s the thing. A lot of this doesn’t seem thought through very well. How will TS work in this season? How will players relive this season? Where will the guide even be? None of these things are addressed. What would have made more sense is to add these shard events in their own area, or to make them function like the colored light quests - where they are greyed out unless you’re actively using it for a quest or for reliving the season memories. There’s too much missing in this season and the solution of making the shards a permanent world event doesn’t work either and it’s not appealing to the chillax atmosphere of Sky.

[spark lance]

he a runner he a track star

[high charm]

hello tgc developers

[twin isle]

I suddenly have to draw things

[woven cedar]

omg sagomay is here too

[timid valve]

[frosty trout]

Going out on a limb, but maybe the official server with 16 devs online (and others lurking) is probably not a smart place to talk about exploits.

[umbral haven]

the devs are watching

[spark lance]

🏃‍♀️ 🏃‍♀️

duskcreaturewindup.wav starts playing as a developer starts typing literally anything

[torn girder]

please spare me

[signal folio]

Sag is always watching
👁
always Mike Wazowski

[spark lance]

good thing i was on my best behavior as usual

I don't see any exploits good sir we all well behaved sky kids

[woven cedar]

lurking devs confirmed?!

[final garden]

Good in the sense that you officially call certain behaviors "exploits." Helps to clarify some of the ToS for people

[calm sequoia]

silly goofy ahhh skykids

[high charm]

on a season-related note, I actually wish some of the lighting changes were a bit more drastic. I'm in love with isle, wasteland, and vault, but prairie just kinda. turns a bit purple. would be cool if it got dark, as if it were dusk

[torn girder]

i'll be a good sky kid dont bean me

[timid valve]

I saw nothing ❌

[spark lance]

guys you're making yourselves look more suspicious

[vagrant fable]

Anyway, this season has been rather disappointing considering what we were expecting

[twin isle]

This is my first offense. I don't think I'll go to jail but who knows

[woven cedar]

Sky x Law & Order

[dreamy grail]

hey sago, how are things? :D
also any update on how DoS stuff is looking for testing? 👀

[signal folio]

dun dun

[torn girder]

we're criminals now, arent we

[twin isle]

DoS but instead of regular sized straw hat we get tiny one size of a thimble

[spark lance]

Breaking Lights

Since the devs are here..may we have the eden crown pls? 🥺

[dreamy grail]

Objection hearsay, calls for speculation. No relevance

[spark lance]

As an IGC, can't forget that part

[frosty trout]

DOS is a really old operating system so TBD on whether we'll get a compatible version for iOS, Android, and Switch

[quaint jungle]

Im supprised the eden crown isint one of the main ults of this season

[twin isle]

What's TBD

[spark lance]

Objection your honor, argumentative

[high charm]

devs can we maybe have nighttime prairie with the shard events 👀 for symbolism

[zenith mist]

everyone knows that asking devs for things on discord means they will add them

[frosty trout]

"to be determined"

[dreamy grail]

You were on ab days of summer... Right?

[kindred fossil]

I did get my jetpack cosmetic, just took awhile

[twin isle]

Oh I thought it was something exciting

[frosty trout]

I mean I could say "Yes I'll add those in for you!" but also I'm not a programmer so I'd basically just end up breaking the game.

[naive solar]

it could also be "that'sbeingdeveloped"

[dreamy grail]

Hello Ktjn, how are you doing today, same to you Sago?

[spark lance]

do offer snacks = DoS

[twin isle]

Eden crown?????? TBD???? confirmed

[final garden]

To be fair, this is beta, which is already a little broken

[vapid briar]

Like most things—WAFO

[torn girder]

okay but does anyone there has their hands itching on adding eden crown? yk just asking.......

[twin isle]

Am I gonna have to post the WAFO fanart again

[mortal shale]

Season's not perfect but I feel like a lot of judgment towards it is a bit unfair, especially towards the cosmetics I feel like were a lot of references to fanart (thinking about the dark plant stuff).

[kindred belfry]

..what is WAFO

[vapid briar]

I see the tinfoil and apophenia is gaining gravity again

[spark lance]

Food 🧇

[frosty trout]

Waffles and popcorn are part of a well-balanced beta diet

[vapid briar]

wait and find out—WAFO

[vagrant fable]

"Wait And Find Out"

[dreamy grail]

Likely means future season or they're messing with us ab tomorrow

Also any spare trenchcoats lying around, I Wana buy an actual one but everywhere said "not in season rn 😦" heeh

[twin isle]

You guys keep using words I have to look up ???? On pride month?? What's apophoneia

[zenith mist]

i like how when the devs show up everyone immediately stops talking bad abt the season and starts asking for things
edit: that was a sarcastic "like" btw. its weird

[kindred fossil]

“What does WAFO mean?”
“Wait and Find Out!”
“Why? … How long do I have to wait?”

[naive solar]

to understand its meaning, you'll have to wait and find out

[spark lance]

a long blanket and some buttons might work

[woven cedar]

maybe the eden crowns were the friends we made along the way

[thick ibex]

I'm waiting for beta to update, what is the current TS in beta
edit: thank you!

[mortal shale]

idk i came here because i was told chat was being salty so i came here to look for myself
then devs happened

[spark lance]

I'm always salty

[twin isle]

I want baby manta cape just bc it looks so cute with troope greet pants

[calm sequoia]

We are just discussing fax

[woven cedar]

"Salty" or constructive criticism?

[timid valve]

Maybe give a piggyback to someone and have them dress up as the Eden crown

[spark lance]

salty would be bullying the devs, we're bullying their choices

[high charm]

ah, yes. "This season is a lost cause" how constructive
(not at you specifically but people have been saying that)

[vagrant fable]

It's not being salty if we just saying what we don't really like about the season

[mortal shale]

Apophenia (/æpoʊˈfiːniə/) is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things.

[twin isle]

"salty" u mean depressed criminals?(me and tori)

[oak remnant]

Why the seasonal quests are repeating 😔

[zenith mist]

i think joking abt being a "criminal" due to using exploits and breaking tos while the devs are still watching isnt , like, a good look.

[vagrant fable]

Because there's nothing else for us to do

[spark lance]

you're gonna be burning shards for the rest of your time..

[twin isle]

If I do one more crime tgc will teleport me to the invisible tunnel in sunny forest that disappeared into the ether

[frosty trout]

It's fine to talk about what you dislike in the game, but keep in mind--

• Everything in beta is subject to change, and what you see in a build does not necessarily reflect what is planned for the live version of the game
• If someone wants to come here and talk about a different topic, that should not be shut down either

[naive solar]

Did you know I went to oob twice

[kindred fossil]

Cut, cut!

[spark lance]

Less talk more burn! Keep burning the shards!

[woven cedar]

I wanna hug the shard tbh

omg my wl aah

[mortal shale]

How about you stop that behavior or I'm calling a mod ?

[twin isle]

I'll pay for my crimes by offering more cool sky cosmetic fanarts

I'll make a THOUSAND BILLION fanarts for Eden crown

[final garden]

You say that, but it doesn't feel like much has really been changing? And I'm sure you've been getting a good amount of feedback

[vapid briar]

not sure what pride has to with expanding your vocabulary, but congrats you're one of 10,000* today. Apophenia is is the tendency to perceive a connection or meaningful pattern between unrelated or random things.

*https://xkcd.com/1053/

[spark lance]

They are already here

[spark lance]

well im sure changes still take time cause coding and all that

[frosty trout]

Whether you intended that 100% as a joke or not, that comment can be pretty divisive. People are welcome to chat in whichever channel they wish as long as they stay on topic.

[coral cosmos]

will these words be on a vocab test later

[naive solar]

yeahhhh submitting feedback & bug reports does not guarantee an immediate change or a fix

[vagrant fable]

That's the second crime

[empty river]

the server is for everyone, all channels are for everyone no matter your interests

[frosty trout]

@twin isle Please refrain from those kind of comments on a huge public server like this one

[twin isle]

Ono I got dusted it was a joke

[spark lance]

uh oh, bad decision rae

[high charm]

it's also important to submit feedback beyond "I don't like this." That doesn't give the devs any info on what would make the season better

[woven cedar]

Are the dark plants edible?

[torn girder]

Rae is feeling criminal today huh

[kindred fossil]

One way to find out…

[final garden]

Of course, but really, we don't get a lot of time to beta test things before they go to live. There's not a lot of time given for things to change

[vagrant fable]

Darks diet consists of dark plants and dark water

[spark lance]

mama im in love with a criminal, and this type of love isn't rational 🎵🎶🎶

[twin isle]

I'm not even trying to do that second one went from crime free to repeat offender

[spark lance]

Feeling proud rae?

[oak remnant]

Aha I just hope that the horrible crashing in this season test won't pass to Live

[mortal shale]

I mean, you tell me if "this season/cosmetic sucks" is constructive criticism, because while I agree the quests are repetitive, especially because live will wait two weeks between each, I am a bit miffed by people giving up on it when it's a lot of things that were asked for, such as dark-themed and krill-themed cosmetics, new missions that will spice things up for people who find the game easy and a bit of lore ! We got the confirmation the king was here and a person with that new mural

[zenith mist]

i hope its ok to ask (might as well while devs are here), are any major changes or updates coming to the season? is what we currently have pretty much the gist of shattering? ik wafo and all that, but everyone's already judging the season by what we have now, and it makes it kind of hard to give feedback on the season as a whole

[frosty trout]

@twin isleI realize that, but we ask people not to use IRL identities as the punchline for jokes. It's impossible to know 100% of the time what the intent is behind them, so we ask folks to avoid them altogether, even if it's meant to be simply "making fun of yourself."

[kindred fossil]

I’m bit of a light eater

[grave jetty]

I sort of assumed that dark water was brewed using dark plants.

I dunno, is rhere a dark yeast that produces darkohol when it ferments?

[naive solar]

I would've responded to the textwall above but I'm too sleepy. Good night chat

[spark lance]

No plant can grow on Pepsi

[woven cedar]

yeah i definitely agree, i thought you were talking about everyone here as a whole being "salty," I don't like the repetition of some of these quests and those stagnant "memory void" statues we see, I'm sorry if there was a miscommunication

[spark lance]

maybe dark water is just dark plant syrup? like if you let strawberries sit in sugar for a day..

[twin isle]

I am going to take a break then all this criming is making me worried

[vapid briar]

they taste like nintendo switch game cartridges

[grave jetty]

Anything but Nintendo Switch game cartridges.

[spark lance]

it was you who ate my 3DS collection 10 years ago?!

[vagrant fable]

Aw, i was expecting something more like a N64 one

[kindred fossil]

Depends on the soil, really, mine taste like McDonald’s spirte that was left there for 8 months

[tawdry reef]

this is now canon

[glacial barn]

Can confirm that flavour (I have regrets)

[timid valve]

How do you know what that tastes like

[nova fable]

That has to be the best description to how a dark plant would taste like XD

[frosty trout]

Broadly speaking, it's not a spoiler to say that there will be more season-related stuff in testing for 0.18.5 too (people who have hung around #beta-announcements for a while will probably have picked up on that pattern for at least the last few seasons).

....But you know that when it comes to specifics, my specific answer is gonna be ||WAFO||, right?

[umbral haven]

and what does that taste like

[vapid briar]

I feel like too many of you know exactly that taste is like

[spark lance]

Battery acid

[glacial barn]

They taste like horrible science gone wrong

[spark lance]

never underestimate the bravery of skykids, after all they run eden every week

[tawdry reef]

No one was saying this Season "sucks," I'm not sure who was spreading the rumor of this channel being salty

[grave jetty]

Literally? Denatonium benzoate, the most bitter substance known to humanity. Nintendo paints them with it to keep kids from swallowing them.

[high charm]

hey, if someone says "did you know switch cartridges taste bad" I'm gonna go find out

[zenith mist]

thank you for answering my question sagomay!! yeah i wasnt expecting specifics, but i just didnt know if its a good time to rly judge the season in its current state or to just give it more time

[woven cedar]

Kool-Aid

[serene hollow]

Saying this hear because it’s not really spoilers for beta, does anyone know when the new season will be?

[kindred fossil]

I unfortunately did not grow up with Nintendo carts, however I did grow up with bootleg 100 games in 1 CD disks, that too has its own distinctive flavor

[vagrant fable]

!omgomgwhenbeta

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!

[timid valve]

What kind of Kool-Aid are you drinking??

[high charm]

hey check this out #beta-discussion message

[frosty trout]

All announcements about starting dates are shared where everyone has easy access to them, like #news or patch notes. Beta players don't get advanced notice on that kind of info

[grave jetty]

Literally? Denatonium benzoate, the most bitter substance known to humanity. Nintendo paints them with it to keep kids from swallowing them.

[timid valve]

Oh yummy nvm

[tawdry reef]

That's like a 1:100 ratio, most of the discussion was discussing about the flaws for this season and how they could potentially be improved

[lyric kite]

If this is how the season is going to be, then I at least just want the shard events and seasonal quest completion to actually work consistently. Having to do the events like 10+ times and still being unable to complete the quest is not fun

[frosty trout]

Arguing about arguing is very meta, which means 1) it's not on-topic, 2) Zuckerberg could swoop in any second with a cease and desist. Please stay on topic folks

Please note, I will be removing posts that are off topic.

[vagrant fable]

So since shards taste like crystallised sugar, what do crystal crabs taste like?

[lyric kite]

Spicy sugar

[nova fable]

Probably those pop rocks?

[grave jetty]

Literally? Denaton... aw, never mind

[woven cedar]

[timid valve]

Candy in the shape of a crab

[glacial barn]

They taste like ginger candy... Or candied ghost peppers

[spark lance]

Strawberry

[high charm]

sparkling water

[mortal shale]

I went to contact the mods about Grinch seeking fights with a few folks from lore chat and no action was taken, I feel it's unfair to sweep that under the rug.

[haughty pine]

Ktjn, why do you know what they taste like

[frosty trout]

@mortal shale anyone is welcome to post in #contact-the-mods. However, we ask that arguments not be continued in the chat channels, since it is pretty much guaranteed to make the conflict worse

[mortal shale]

Yeah noted, it's just frustrating.

[nova fable]

Serious question.
The wuest void rooms.

Would they be still accessible after the season ends?
Or will the feeling of amazement fade away into the dark abyss and become a fading memory?

Same goes to the Quest shards. Would they stay after the season ends?

[spark lance]

time to think about good things then
like crab cakes

[high charm]

there's no intention to continue arguments, it's just that this is a repeating issue and nothing has come of trying to report things. as vela said, it's frustrating

[vagrant fable]

Apparently the prompt to relive a memory is there, just doesn't do anything yet

[mortal shale]

Yeah, replayability has been a concern of mine as well, I wonder what moths from future seasons will get !

[lyric kite]

My guess is that the quest giver will be accessible from somewhere even after the season ends, especially since there is a WL located in one of the quest memories, but the specifics are not known at this point and I'm not sure if the devs will tell us right now, likely another WAFO situation

[oak remnant]

I really wish it will at least bring us back to the memory room. I like the calmness there, especially manta room 🛐

[spark lance]

now that i think about it, these shard quests are really similar to enchantments lights, but in a more frustrating way

[high charm]

wait there is? which one?

[woven cedar]

memory room asmr

then there's that one sky kid who aggresively HONKS

[nova fable]

Especially since the guide has no season area.

Unless, it is theoretically related to he final quest?
I just hope there would be somethig to remember the season by aside from the shards.

[lyric kite]

In the memory with the mantas after completing the 3rd quest. Some people have posted in #beta-screenshots-videos images of it if you want to go scroll through. It's not accessible right now if you've already completed the quest, but eventually I think you will have the option to view the memories again

[oak remnant]

A hacker followed me there because I refuse to light them lol. How the table turned

[nova fable]

That is a very important point.
Thanks bud.
Here is hoping!

[vagrant fable]

There's a new entrance looking wall on the Eden hub now, maybe that will be something?

[timid valve]

That would be soo cool if it did turn out to be something

[lyric kite]

I've kind of suspected that the quest giver might be added to Eden lobby or something once the season is over, but it's not confirmed yet so we'll see. But it would have to be accessible from somewhere if they plan on keeping the quests available and the WL

[spark lance]

Oh you mean the wall on the left that has little stairs?

[timid valve]

Wait really? I can’t find it!

[hushed arch]

tbh i dont think anything from this season will come back but then again we have absolutely nothing to go off of

[high charm]

the devs have already said that their plans on how to bring things back from this season are still being worked on, too early to make assumptions

[gilded parrot]

@mortal shale

[shrewd knot]

Where is that👀

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

The mods are always watching...

[zinc mauve]

Psst is the elder shield a confirmed thing to come?

[woven cedar]

that just made me imagine one of the "spirits" coming as a falling shard at home space and the thought frightens me

[spark lance]

I'll send a few screenshots

[eager harness]

Is there a way to collect the wing light in the manta memory room now or do we have to wait?

[timid valve]

Oh never mind I found the tiny stairs

[lyric kite]

Not currently, but there is a dialogue box indicating that we will be able to revisit memories in the future. But it's not possible right now if you've already completed the 3rd quest

[eager harness]

That’s disappointing, but I hope they do that very soon. Thank you!

[spark lance]

I still waiting for the memories becoming spirits
Like

Thank you skids for helping us get back our spiritual bodies we'll be forever grateful yara yara -

[paper fable]

Guys can someone explain me better the part of #beta-announcements of the bugs and wedges that the devs want more feedbacks/more testing on it

[nova fable]

oh true.
Are we going to see shards fly up and do what?

Heal the Eden crytal!? (/j)

[spark lance]

Yiiiiipeeee 🪨

I can only imagine them singing and dancing like in Disney movies lmao

[inland lava]

I wonder if those ancient shards are deitys of some sort

God of mantas
God of jellyfishs
God of krills
God of crabs

[spark lance]

Crab lord

[woven cedar]

God of crabs

[high charm]

I was wondering if they represented base instincts of the creatures depicted. like ancient memories all light/dark creatures have

[inland lava]

Either that or God of dark plants

[spark lance]

It's interesting how all the spirits are inspired by sky creatures like they're a different breed of spirit

[timid valve]

It’s definitely interesting that they don’t seem to have an actual form yet and are just glowy orbs

[inland lava]

And no distinctive names

As if each shard just mitosis

[twin isle]

Hey are you guys getting only 3 season candles per realm? The past 3 realms I've gotten 3 for collecting them all. I even double checked to make sure I was getting them all.

[spark lance]

I call jelly princess because i like it

[timid valve]

I’m hoping that the last few quests clear up what is going on with the ancient memories because I’m very interested to find out what it’s supposed to mean

[lilac tapir]

are u maybe missing 0.05 of a candle? (like literally just 1 ball of wax) that happened to me once and i got stuck with 3 candles for the rest of the available season time

[inland lava]

Shard of harmoy
Shard of order

Shard of survival
Shard of chaos

Name suggestions?

[vapid briar]

For science!

[copper hound]

so let us taste it for science and to prove you’re not lying to us 👀

[maiden pond]

I just had an idea about the knocked down system. I'm pretty sure someone has said this before, but in case they haven't, and if they have, please ping me so I can give you proper credit:

-Sky kids should only be knocked down when taken serious damage and crawl only for a few seconds before getting up again. To counter the time needed to get up from being hit again, invincibility frames will be added when getting up to a crawl state, but when in crawl state you can still take damage but not be forced into knocked down state for another 5 seconds. Otherwise, if the Sky kid loses their light and is still taking damage but the camera does not slow-mo the action, the Sky kid will remain standing but move slightly slower than their usual movement speed.

-Another idea to counter this is when Sky kids have less than 10 winged lights remaining, they will be more vulnerable to damage and is meant to be the final push in Eden, outside of Eden the Sky kid will need serious help, they no longer have invincibility frames when getting up and can be knocked down repeatedly with no chance of really recovering or retreating. Sky kids who have more than 10 winged lights will be able to crawl significantly faster and get up faster before the winged light disappears, 3 seconds to get back up even after taking damage again. Then an additional 2 seconds of invisibility when recovered to standing position before taking more damage. When a Sky kid has less than 10 winged lights remaining, a tooltip will appear saying they are very weak, and need to seek help soon for their grave injuries. This can give an impact on how the Eden experience can be more emotional, and even outside of Eden in general.

-For new players who have less than 10 winged lights, this tooltip won't appear until they have lost their light and put into a crawl state.

I'm probably going to send this in feedback soon, but I wanted to write this here in case anyone may have had these ideas before.

[smoky trench]

No man you should send it! I lurk a lot and haven't really seen ideas like this
Plus it's just a good idea imo, the more feedback the more likely they are to change

[maiden pond]

Yeah sorry for the text wall, I just seen a lot of beta players seem to not like the crawling/knocked down system, I'm trying to help TGC rework it and tweak it so that it's fairly balanced for everyone, not just veterans.

[gaunt frost]

Where's the shards today located?

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[warm escarp]

I think, this can be that kind of a solution to this pain in honk of everyone testing the season that could potentially be acceptable to both players and Devs! Send this as soon as you can, I really hope that such suggestions will be listened to

[warm escarp]

The third location of the forest, on the left behind the bones and the last location with the lift to the valley

Eruption happens every half an hour as far as I can say

[gaunt frost]

Thank you

[maiden pond]

Message was edited very slightly to indicate I was not a beta tester but I wanted to help address the problem of the system with my ideas, other than that the message is the same. I really hope TGC can do their best, I believe in them.

[warm escarp]

These are still very reasonable suggestions, maybe devs will find slightly other ways if they see the message and take it as a model for changes, however, even if you’re not a beta tester, you understand our pain as I see hahaha

[smoky trench]

Yessss beta testers or not feedback is always most welcome

[maiden pond]

I do understand the pain, I think myself though that this is a great idea, just not executed well yet. But I believe TGC can make a huge difference in this system, they just need suggestions for now rather than criticism for the system. I think the most important aspect of being a beta tester is to voice your ideas and what you think should change about what doesn't seem right or fair, as a beta tester, you guys have the most important role in making sure things are bug free, and while it may not be perfect, because nothing in this world is, you guys are what shape the live version of the game, and as someone who's absolutely enjoyed almost as little to no game breaking bugs, it means a lot to me.

[twin isle]

I wish the cool down wasn't so long in the beta screens channel, I had an edit but realized I needed to change it and delete and now have to wait an hour to post it again

[haughty pine]

Yes, this. ⬆️

[maiden pond]

Believe me I would love to be a beta tester because this game has had a very good improvement on my mental health and my insomnia in general, but since I'm on Switch, it's not possible and my phone can't handle it. It's unfortunate but it is what it is, and that's fine with me.

I feel great playing this game, I haven't been burnt out yet, I actually enjoy grinding when it's peaceful and not having to worry about failing. It's meditative, I get sleepy doing my candle runs and it helps me take naps and sleep better because I know I can go back to do it all again.

[warm escarp]

I think you would be an incredible beta tester since even without being one you still can give very reasonable thoughts and analyze other people’s frustration and wishes to come up with potential solutions

[wide sparrow]

they will never fix crashes on all maps on some devices 🥺

[rain gyro]

im gonna assume people spawning in multiple gamepass candles etc is a hack?

[maiden pond]

Yeah, I wish I could be one, I wouldn't mind testing rough stages, I know nothing is perfect but with time, effort, and speaking up about what I see that doesn't look right, doesn't seem to be fair, or is unplayable, it can be addressed and fixed. TGC is a small company I hear, but they are doing amazing for a small company. If I had a job I'd be willing to buy things but it's been so hard finding a job for me. I would like to support them, but all I can do now is lurk here and look through the criticisms I see from actual beta testers, and find possible solutions that would sit well with everyone, not just one party. You just have to have the mindset that everyone will be playing, and not everyone will feel the same, so you just have to try your best to reach a solution that may be the best for everyone, you will have at least one person that disagrees, but if everyone were right about something, this world would be such a different place.

[fast skiff]

If it’s showing the continuous candle-buying animation, then yes

[maiden pond]

I at one point have wanted to be a game developer myself but I've realized it's a lot of stress, I don't know how I'd feel if TGC would offer me a position and say all I have to do is give reasonable and honest feedback about what should be in the game based on what their players feel should be in. Heck, I don't even know if that's even a position to begin with. I do know I need a job, though. TGC, if you're reading this, this is kind of a call for duty But honestly, it would feel like a lot of stress, I don't know.

[haughty pine]

I think the sort of job you're looking for is called QA — Quality Assurance. It's like beta testing on steroids and looking through feedback, communicating issues you find... It's something that can be really cool, and despite what people say about Sky and bugs, TGC's QA team does a great job honestly, like... Major props to them.

If the feedback you've given is any indication, you would make a great beta tester... Cause not only are you able to find the problem and identify it, you're also able to put together all the information you're hearing, synthesize the different thoughts you're hearing into one main thing, make it relevant, and then put forward productive plans and suggestions. It might not seem like much, but I can't tell you how valuable of a skillset that is. It'll take you far in life. Thank you for dropping in, Link!

[maiden pond]

Well, dang. And here I thought it was not actually a position. I guess I'll just have to see if I'm up for that, I know it can be stressful but it can be amazing communicating what other people think and forming your own solution to their problems.

[haughty pine]

And if you like going through and working with exploring the game, too, it's a good option... You get really good at playing with the game, finding where things are odd, and then communicating "hey, this thing is not working right" or "hey this thing is not a fun experience rn." It can be a cool experience from what I've heard!

[maiden pond]

Right, though for now I'll just have to see if TGC actually needs those people.

[haughty pine]

Always a first step, yeah

[gilded parrot]

don’t worry citizens, your hero is here

[warm escarp]

Why thatSkybruh gives vibes of a mayor from homestuck

[dreamy grail]

[maiden pond]

I just looked on thatgamecompany's Career section of the site but could not find "Quality Assurance" unfortunately. Plus the closest thing I looked into so far that seems to match that position is "Test Analyst". Looking at the description, it says "as a test analyst on our team, you will be the voice of the players and their first line of defense."

[haughty pine]

I believe that might be what they call their quality assurance team, cause different companies have different names for QA. I know that our Test Analysts here do have some involvement with beta and feedback and such.

[halcyon epoch]

I wanted to apply to TGC but I don’t meet the requirements. Oh well. At least I checked

[hushed arch]

aren't we basically quality assurance

i'm serious we do the same thing as qa but for free

[glacial barn]

We are, but the volunteer version. We don't have to fulfill quotas, we don't have to write detailed reports (though they are appreciated). We don't have the same responsibility the official job holds

[hushed arch]

also wait is feedback actually looked through? i was under the impression it's not (or at least that a lot of it gets ignored)

[analog citrus]

Can I just say how annoying it is to have every picture or comment here slapped with the “feedback” reaction. This is an area for discussion about the season and everything. If I want to leave feedback I will, after I’ve figured out what it is. Your reactions are not helping… sorry it just annoying

[versed dome]

I am sorry to be asking but how do I do Shattering quest 1?

[glacial barn]

As far as I'm aware it is. I've personally seen some suggestions I've made make their way into game (though not always in the way I hoped).

I think, as with anything, they prioritize feedback based on ease of correction. Though that's just my speculation

To give a more recent bit of feedback they did act on though, the days of rainbow testing. The original version we got was disappointing. If feedback on that was ignored, we would have that same version in live now, instead of retesting in a new format for a later release

[haughty pine]

Feedback does actually get looked through. Quite a lot. That's why it's important to send things. If 100 people are discussing how much they don't like XYZ feature, but only 1 person sends anything, how are the testing people who look through feedback supposed to know to do anything? They do look at the feedback quite thoroughly, but sometimes it takes time for them to incorporate feedback or they have reasons for doing something a certain way, but I assure you, your feedback is indeed read. Please keep submitting it.

[maiden pond]

Yeah, which is where this problem for me comes in, my phone is not compatible with Sky, and my Switch isn't allowed to test beta, so won't I need scripting knowledge or Java code knowledge too? I kinda slacked a lot on that so I barely know. I just want to know, if I were to apply, how would I be able to test the game myself assuming I need to do this? Should I ask a dev these questions?

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[versed dome]

I am fairly confused, so I did an event quest with my friend in Hidden Forest where we burnt off some plants nearby red crystals.
After the crab cutscene and being brought to Sky Kingdom, apparently, my friend completed his first Quest 1 but I am still stuck incomplete in comparison.
Does this count as the bug Freyr posted?

[haughty pine]

Not necessarily. we're a middle stage of the testing. QA does the first rounds of testing, where they're working with the rough and raw builds... We don't see half the bugs that the QA team sees in those first rounds. Like, it's important to emphasize that anything we see has already gone through some internal testing... But 5-ish people can't always find the same bugs that a server with 1,000 people on it can. Heck, there's no way for 5 people to even try to simulate those conditions. So they turn over mid-process updates to Beta, tell us to go ham, and then report our feedback and bug finds back to them. Then they continue testing the content, using all the info we give them as a reference for fixing even more stuff that they couldn't have caught on their own... Rinse and repeat until we get some shiny new content in Live!

[hushed arch]

there are more than 5 people playing sky beta at once?

very interesting and it's good to actually get info, thank you!

[dawn crown]

Where are the shards today? :>

[grave jetty]

Forest. Bridge/Temples area (do the bridge first to turn off the rain) and the post-Temple area just before you fly off to the Valley.

[dawn crown]

Thank you

[haughty pine]

Shocking, I know, right?

No problem! What we do is still very important. There are some bugs and issues that would never be fixed if we weren't able to replicate the conditions of actual Skykids playing Sky... And man, if some of the bugs we find in beta made it to Live, could you imagine how much of a nightmare that would be?

[maiden pond]

Emphasis on "some" there, Boatgirl.

[haughty pine]

Fair enough... But you'd be amazed how many bugs do get caught.

[hushed arch]

infinite candle bug.gif

[haughty pine]

OH GOSH NO COULD YOU IMAGINE

[maiden pond]

Flashbacks to that one bug in live where everything costed candles, nearly everything anyways.

[hushed arch]

e. everything?

[grave jetty]

Yep, everything. People were buying Ultimate Gifts for 1 or 2 candles apiece. It's the only time I've ever seen TGC roll back people's progress in Live.

[maiden pond]

Yes, during Hiking Grouch's visit as a TS, a bug occurred that made everything including normal things that costed hearts and seasonal candles, and I think even the ultimate Abyss rewards cost candles.

[hushed arch]

hear me out: i think that bug should be put back in live /j

[zenith mist]

you couldnt actually buy the old ultimate gifts, but they appeared in the qg trees. i think you could buy the abyss ults but idr

[burnt hound]

is today's shard at river brook, sunny forest or not showing up?
nvm: found at the boneyard! didnt notice the sky colour changed

[haughty pine]

I'm told that there's a lot more info on all that if you look more at the applications, and that some questions about general QA stuff can be googled. My understanding is that you don't need to have nearly as much coding experience as someone like Wes would, and that a lot of it is more about your ability to play the game thoroughly, log bugs, communicate with staff, and sift through feedback/balance the community needs with the game needs. You wouldn't need your own devices to test, your job would help take care of that most times. But again, I'd advise you to read the application a few times over.

[grave jetty]

I don't work at TGC, but I am a software developer, and I did QA professionally for several years. I can tell you that some knowledge of scripting/coding does help if you're doing QA, but it's not necessary. As a tester, you don't look over the code itself anyway (devs sometimes review each other's code, but that's an even earlier stage, before things go to QA).

You can make scripts and other tools to help you, but it's not a required part of the job, so you can learn at your own pace.

[maiden pond]

Thank you and @haughty pine for your responses, so I'd just need a way to communicate with the team about player criticisms and the earliest beta stage testing, right? No need to actually test it out myself, rather just watch it and give feedback as well as other player's feedback?

[haughty pine]

Definitely. And knowledge of code helps you see what's going on and communicate it, but TGC uses C++ and their own special development tools, so if you know some general things about how computers work, then I imagine they would probably be doing some training on their own special systems anyways.

[grave jetty]

I can't speak to TGC's processes, but I'm pretty sure you'd need to test things yourself. But as Boatgirl said, you'd be given devices to test it on: you wouldn't be stuck with just your Switch or your old phone.

(In fact, they probably wouldn't let you use your old Switch or phone for testing. Security of the internal servers and all that. You'd need to use the work-issued devices to do your testing.)

[haughty pine]

Typically QA people do play testing versions of the game as well as work with feedback, but devices would not be a concern: they would help you get devices to test the game on.

[maiden pond]

Interesting, okay. But if I was in another state for example, would I need to actually go to TGC's headquarters and get their devices to test it on?

[haughty pine]

I don't know, but I doubt it. They're a 100% work-from-home studio now, so I imagine they've got it figured out.

[grave jetty]

Again, I can't be sure about TGC's process, but if they're anything like the place where I work, they can mail devices to you. There's probably a special VPN you'd need to use with these, but they'd be able to help you set it up.

[haughty pine]

I'm sure they've got lots of this figured out — I'd recommend reading the application thoroughly and then see what you think!

[maiden pond]

Alright. I've talked with my parents about it. But all my mom wants to know is how the pay is like, while it's a good question, I'm not too worried about pay at the moment, rather just what I need to do.

[lilac epoch]

Shards are at the forest boneyard, for those still looking. Just beneath the tower that holds 1 winged light.

Tip (I guess), especially for solo questers where the servers don't merge and you end up alone: build the bridge to stop the rain. The shards are close-ish together, the drain is mad, and imo there's not enough ambient light sources - the butterflies are clustered mainly by the fallen log, unlike those in grandma's area, and they dont always give you a full recharge. [Already sent feedback to devs to distribute butterflies more evenly around the shards].

The gather fragments phase is hellish if you're doing it solo. It takes forever to burn those plants. [Also sent to feedback for the "fb" emoji lovers hehe]

[twin isle]

I play sky for like 6 hrs a day apparently maybe I should get hired

[sterile cobalt]

thinking about the grand manta and pygmy manta capes again, i hope the eden crown returns and maybe as something like the abyss f2p rebreather, permanently in the spirit tree even after season ends

also just struggled for like 3 minutesto figure out if "fb" meant facebook or not then realized it might be feedback help
anyways any new bugs? 👁️

[lilac epoch]

Hmm found texture bugs in eden 2nd room and trial of fire but so far no really whack bugs... unless you count the delay in receiving daily quest rewards.

[spark lance]

Seriously? 6 hours play the game per day? You must be insane!

[maiden pond]

Me, at almost 1k hours since January of this year.

[sly arch]

Also me who invest quite a lot of time to play but also check and test the game.

[sterile cobalt]

how bad am i then if i play for 17 or more hours

[twin isle]

I stay up a lot and don't sleep much lol. Also on weekends and summer break I go ham. 2,300 hrs and I started July 8 2021

[sterile cobalt]

i- im at 5,100+ thats not even including time on mobile omg

[twin isle]

Idk how long on mobile all I have is my switch time

[oak remnant]

What do you do in this game I wonder..........................

[maiden pond]

Just looked at my hours played on Switch for Sky. Since January of 2022, 925 hours.

[sly arch]

Total About 7 hours this month
And that not including my screen time on my other devices

[steady falcon]

Chara animates

[sterile cobalt]

i spend a bunch of time racing trials, valley races, village of dreams skating quests, and some areas of treasure reef as well as hide n seek in earth or fire trial, office, and treasure reef
then theres like the 2 hours of cr and countless hours talking with others and/or just sitting and waiting for certain people to come back from being afk
i swear i don't live in sky i jyst exist there a lot its comforting
.and playing music sheets i do that too

basically i \✨might do too much\✨

i sometimes wish cheese valley made it into live for just one day

[oak remnant]

After seeing this I can get an idea I personally can't stay longer than 30min-1 hour. But it's so nice to read that people found comfort in this game to the point that they can spend that much amont of time

[shadow stratus]

I thought there was no new wing on this season but there is

[reef adder]

huh really? 👀

[grave jetty]

I've been hearing conflicting reports on this. There's a picture in the beta-screenshots channel claiming to show a WL in the manta memory, but l thought I'd heard it was fake. I can't verify it myself, because I'm already past that memory.

[reef adder]

yeah i cant check either

[sterile cobalt]

there was a video someone took of getting to it and claiming it in beta screenshots/videos but idk how to link messages on mobile

i'll reply to it without ping lol

[lilac epoch]

Found the shot of the wl in the beta screenshots thread:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q0RC3xaZ8fpad-AxJV3IYjMFWPaM_gVb/view?usp=drivesdk

Edit: I now think I actually may have found this too in the earlier quests. Hard to remember, I regret not taking my own screens of those quests.

[lyric kite]

At first there was only one person who posted the pic of it and some people thought it was edited, but more people have posted now and I'm pretty sure it's real because I actually know them and believe they would tell the truth about this

[sterile cobalt]

id saw someone said that it gives you the option to relive the memory but pressing yes does nothing, so reliving might either be bugged or in the works still

[reef adder]

aw

[lyric kite]

Yeah that is true as well, if you tap the exclamation points for the quests you've already completed in the void room, it asks if you want to revisit the memory but tapping the check mark does nothing (for now), so it's probably still being worked on. In a future update we will likely be able to view them again after having completed them

[lilac epoch]

Ah my memory is spotty. Now I'm thinking I actually do have a vague recollection of collecting 1 WL in the Void area. Lmao. We should be able to go back to it and at least find the residue of a collected WL when they fix the Relive This Memory function, I think.

[raw wasp]

Tbf faking that entire video would take a LOT of effort

[lilac epoch]

Agree, doesnt make sense to do all that and post it in the open threads where devs can quickly see it and others can refute it.

[raw wasp]

Ya

[wet lark]

oh god im gonna hate eden so much after this season

[lilac epoch]

Welcome to the club of "Must Get Enough Eden Runs Done Before Shattering Comes To Live"

To be fair, the devs are progressively adjusting the crawling mechanic so it's not entirely a lost cause. I still think it should be removed completely but my hope is that if it stays, the crawl speed would at least be faster

[maiden pond]

@lilac epoch just collecting data, can you read through this and give your opinion?

[lilac epoch]

Kk brb reading

[wet lark]

for sure. though crawling does get rid of the whole falling over and losing wings (even when laying on the ground) after getting hit, making it faster or maybe just a slumped walk without falling would be a lot better

[lilac epoch]

I'm okay with the idea of timing, i.e. when the crawl mechanic is triggered and for how long. I've done eden 3x now, tracking the adjustments the devs have made to the crawling mechanic since it was first introduced. There's a general consensus that once you start crawling, that's the end of the fun. You're on all fours for however long it takes to lose all winged light completely.

It would help if the crawling was a bit more dynamic and not just a "okay you're done, that's it gg bb" experience lmao. Still, if I had a choice, I'd rather not have to crawl. I don't see the added value beyond the dramatic visuals and the sad/sorry/miserable emotions they're supposed to evoke.

[timid basalt]

we actually went to eden in live last night
might go back to doing it weekly until the update comes ||ah~ early game days ||

[jolly bear]

Shatter gone from forest (?)

[lilac epoch]

Same thoughts. I've got 90-ish ACs in live and I still feel like I need to stockpile more for future TS's and unlocking warp

[maiden pond]

Yeah, I just think crawling should only be when seriously damaged, it should not happen every time you lose your light and are knocked down. What I'm implying is every time you get critically hit, you are put into a crawl state, such as getting krilled or anytime the camera slow motions the action of you taking damage, you're knocked down, given invincibility frames for getting up, then can crawl for a few seconds, but can still take damage, but can get back up without the timer to get up resetting. You can still move normally if you're going through the endless rock rain up until you take the "critical" damage, then up until you have less than 10 winged lights, you can recover quickly and faster, but once you are at less than 10, no more invincibility frames and you will be rendered extremely vulnerable.

[coral kite]

@lilac tapir your shard cape video, how did you make the render? did you model it yourself and get a skykid rig for it? where did you find it?

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[lilac epoch]

Sounds okay. Definitely more engaging that just getting stun-killed by rock rain and krill once you're down. The idea also caters to those who want "realistic" feels. I can agree with correlating the crawling to hit points and damage taken. Also that a player should be able to get up in between and not just stay grounded on all fours.

[lilac tapir]

hi! (ping on jic) I modelled and rigged him from scratch based on screencaps of my ingame avatar :D

[upbeat ferry]

Does anyone know where the shard is for the quest today? Ive been to the prairie one, hidden forest one, and the wasteland one. :0

[maiden pond]

Yes, it would be more balanced and still be engaging and emotional to Eden's experience. I think that once you are extinguished, you will move slightly slower than your average top speed, and only be knocked down when the camera slows down the time to signify the action of taking critical hit. I feel like to make Eden more dangerous but yet emotional in the endless rain, the chance of getting critically hit should increase up to 30% at max the farther in you are. Starting from 0% to a max of 30% the further you traverse inside the point of no return.

[ornate tundra]

I’m having trouble finding the shard too lol unless it hasn’t started yet? I’m currently where grandmas table is and it’s dark red here but no shard

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[maiden pond]

So basically speaking, the chance to get knocked down into a crawl state increases the further in you are, but does not affect speed and time to recover to standing position until the player has less than 10 winged lights remaining. As I've noticed during the point of no return in the live version of the game while inside it, players who are very low on winged lights will usually have darkness all around their body even when lit up. (I'll submit it to feedback probably, I don't want to flood the feedback channel, okay?)

[steep osprey]

Saaaame

[lilac epoch]

Boneyard beneath the tower that holds 1 WL

[ornate tundra]

Thank u!!

[lilac epoch]

Tip: build the bridge to stop the rain

[cunning trench]

another one is in the last area. beyond the gates of temple and before valley

[vague portal]

In eden, once you pass the rocks, it's death. Just lay there and die. However there is hope if you are with a friend. Less likely to crawl at first exposure past the rocks. Need to give either less crawl time or lengthen the timing between the showers of the killer rocks. 🤔

[coral kite]

dang! how long did it take you? (curious cause im learning 3d modelling and animation rn so just curious)
(also curious if i could have the model so i can mess around with a skykid, there arent any online that i can find)

[exotic kayak]

hello may i ask, where are you supposed to update sky beta in huawei? I'm somehow unable to do so in the huawei app gallery

[lilac tapir]

1. not too long, I've done some 3D modelling in uni so I already kinda knew the pipeline. maybe all together about a week of on-off working on it, including the rigging :0c honestly the rigging was the longest part lol, and I still haven't decided on a method for the cape

2. I'm afraid I'll not be sharing his model ;; there's many elements about that I made custom to my OC, and tbh I'm also kinda wary of it possibly getting into the wrong hands if I start sharing it around n stuff but if you want some help or smth for modelling your own i'd be glad to give some tips!

[slow pecan]

Sometimes I think that whenTGC doing nothing will sometimes lead to better results Everything is changing from windpath enterence to effect to office ghost but they have to focus on something in the season or bugs

[twin isle]

Hi beta test discussion how are we feeling about getting a big update Friday? Anyone hope we will or won't? I hope so.

The skull doesn't bode well

[coral kite]

aww no worries! I'll be sure to contact you if i have any questions. Thanks!

[jolly bear]

I think they should Speed Up the burning process of those Dark Flowers on the Shattering Quest... It is too slow for short amount of Time Counts

[trim spade]

We’re going to Eden tomorrow with friends hope the update isn’t about improving Eden lol

[grave jetty]

I mean, I'm always hoping for big updates. At the very least we should be getting the next quest, but that's not the same thing as a new build and we can't be sure how "new" or "big" it will be (though one of these recent patches was almost a gig, and they have to have used that file size for something, and a new quest could very well fit that bill).

But if I really had to speculate, I'd guess that if there's a patch on Friday, it'll focus on the last bits of Days of Rainbows. That "later this month" TGC tweeted about is coming up fast. If they think it's ready, they'll need to push the final updates to us very soon.

[sinful bough]

I tried doing eden again and it's really annoying how the normal rocks before pnr just knock you down immediately at least with the red crabs you lose like half your wings getting hit (at least I do) but with the rocks I'm instantly down. It's really frustrating when you're fighting against the wind, trying to take cover before the next set of rock rain comes tumbling down on you, and it's especially impossible in the last area right before pnr where the one krill is. I can't book it in time to get into the temple w/o the krill spotting me, the rocks getting me, and all while fighting against the wind

[grave jetty]

Yeah, that's a rough one.

I feedbacked an idea that crawling players shouldn't be affected by wind. It makes a little more sense in terms of physics, it gives players a small break in an especially tough spot, and while it may confer a small advantage at some very specific times, the price you have to pay to get that advantage is heavy enough that I don't think many people would pay it deliberately.

[twin lintel]

i made a meme using a beta screenshot but now i’m confused

[sinful bough]

Honestly that would be great! The wind is the biggest thing that hinders movement and for the rocks to just K.O you instantly is honestly unfair considering how time sensitive you have to be, specifically at single krill area right before pnr. Wind not affecting crawling just makes more sense, and then at least i'll have a better chance at getting back to safety w/o risk of the wind launching back my character.

[twin lintel]

now we ask the lore question about skykid density

[spark lance]

skykid must be pretty tanky to withstand a whole shower of boulders

[crisp thorn]

Short rant. It’s terrible trying to help someone. Not knowing they want death by Krill. lol. I stuck my neck out for you buddy… you didn’t tell me no no no. But I watched you lose your hundred plus wedges. Attacked by 2 krill at once!! SMH. Salute 🫡 cheers 🥂

[thick ibex]

I did the crystals correctly in the 3rd part of forest and did the memory part after reliving the memory and I'm in an empty void, so do I have to do a 2nd one or is it just bugged

[agile hazel]

Hopefully we get an update tomorrow

[lilac epoch]

Go Home, return to void through quest guide. At least, this worked for me. Hope it does for you too

The ancient light and dark NPCs should show up the second time you return.

[fallow vigil]

I saw someone wearing a krill cape, is he a hacker?

[sinful bough]

I ran into a similar situation earlier! Some players just want to lose their wings ig but it's hard to tell cuz I just see the icon and I assume they need help I think from now on I'll just take it that if they're honking excessively, then they're calling for help, and if not then I'll just leave them be lol

[woeful obsidian]

Yes I was too. In wasteland someone wanted loos wings in dark water. I was litting him but he rann aways honking aggressive and sit again in dark water. So let it be.

[agile hazel]

What changes have been made to Eden this update?
Better yet, does anyone have a recording of a run?

[copper salmon]

Hi there
At what times do shards appear? Thank you

[hollow compass]

About now.

[placid linden]

I understand TGC is trying to do something new this season however I’m completely lost. I don’t understand anything about the shattering events or where the shards are supposed to be. I don’t understand any of the seasonal quests either. Smh

[tardy mantle]

Help anyone can burn shattering with me
Same elius I can’t even finis the first mission because I can’t find it
I just lost 4 wings in the shattering

[hollow compass]

The missions are just to go to a shard event wherever it is that day, burn the darkness, meditate and sometimes collect, then go back to the seasonal area.

[fallow vigil]

So It's not possible to get krill cape before this version right?

[severe trout]

I cant see the darkness shards anywhere? Which area is it at

[brittle rock]

Same, where is it :v

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[grave jetty]

Forest, in the Boneyard (do the bridge first to stop the rain) and in the post-Temple clearing just vefote you fly off to the Valley.

[brittle rock]

Thank u!

[grave jetty]

There are two kinds of Shards: red and black. Red Shards will give you ACs, and can be used for quests, but they're guarded by crabs. Black Shards have no guards and will give you lots of normal wax, but they can't be used for quests. At least for me, both of today's Shards (in the forest) were red, but both of yesterday's Shards (in the prairie) were black. But some people say the Shards were different for them.

[hollow compass]

Is this something that has been confirmed by TGC or just something testers are speculating is how it works?
I personally thought the shards being black was to stop them from blinking so annoyingly.

[cursive tinsel]

Speculation/working theories
But to does seem to match my experience.
They tend to be black when the reward is wax.
They tend to be red and glowing and have red crabs when it leads to a creature quest with AC.

[woeful obsidian]

Don't need to do the bridge. Just litt the candles where wl standing.

[last dock]

😱

[fiery fulcrum]

I'm getting bug problem in season of performance quest-2

[last dock]

Do you all get there? I have just gone two places but no shards there

[pastel widget]

Does anyone know where the shard place is? I only found the one in boneyard (the last area)

[last dock]

ermm so shards will appear at one specific time?

[pastel widget]

Every 30min

Ex. 10:00-10:25 approx and then again at 10:30-10:55

[mortal dust]

does anyone else think that 95 candles for rainbow trousers are a bit too exspensive or?

[proud coral]

Going by the TS pricing and the fact that it’s an event item I personally don’t think so, the only issue is the rainbow cape added on if you need to buy both then collectively it is an insanely pricy event

[mortal dust]

that is true, I'm more thinking of the more casual players of sky, those who don't candle run as much as others, if they really want those items it'll be hard for them to get it without going beyond their usual sky routine

[pale junco]

I think it's ok for a event pants
The cape is too expensive tho

[sleek pelican]

What kind of bug? Is this about beta server tho?🤔

[half nest]

yeah i have an issue with rainbow cape pricing, it's def way too expensive if you compare it to the other igc special event capes (bloom, feast for example). nothing wrong with lowering the price a bit, it's happened to ts items so why not dor? lowering the price makes it more accommodating for players who started playing recently, or people who are saving candles for other events.
(i did send this to feedback a while ago)

[fiery fulcrum]

@sleek pelican yah i think there may be server plbm

[proud coral]

100% agree Skys economy is super messy and item pricing definitely needs to be lowered if they keep bringing new items with previous items, I do not see how any newer player could ever catch up with events, TS, and the base game spirits.

[agile hazel]

Send a bug report

[fiery fulcrum]

@agile hazel sure

[quaint jungle]

Cant imagine people needing 250+ candles then another 100-200 candles for the next ts

It would be fair if older items are getting cheaper and cheaper. Since their not "hip and new" unlike they came first time

[hollow compass]

And because there is often little information or it arrives too close to the event, people just don’t have time to cr.

[agile hazel]

TS should definitely be announced at the beginning of the week

[vocal olive]

is the price of the rainbow headphones from the days of rainbow announced?

[hollow compass]

TS should just be revealed for each month. This whole random thing is unnecessary, since it obviously isn’t anyway.

[quaint jungle]

In 2023-2024 there would be 300-400 candles worth of cosmetics from each event. How would newcomers even get that many?

[agile hazel]

candle packs

[sweet imp]

Tgc may add a new methods to collect more candles in future or instead we can be able to collect 30 candles everyday...

[vocal olive]

btw, not beta player but I notice veteran players are start getting stressed out bc of the candles and events and many quit the game

[hollow compass]

I think TGC forgets that new players exist and that for them there is no continuity to latch onto. This new season will not make sense to them, because they don’t have the context of all past seasons.

[quaint jungle]

I realize newcomers need to pay at least 65$ to complete days of rainbow alone with candle packs

[quaint jungle]

Ill say mainly everyone who isint playing sky 24 7 are getting stressed everyday. While veterans get bored after years of playing

[mighty mulch]

No choice but to pick and choose.
Was a late TLP moff myself so it's just been endless expensive "firsts". Sunbather was the TS when I came in but I didn't know how to CR/Eden. Needless to say I did not get Sword Pants either.

I understand it would be unfair to older players who bought the cape at full price, but still can't help be disappointed at the lack of price change. I also strongly dislike how we can't opt out of blessings when purchasing from a spirit tree. The musical hair pin went went up by another 10 candles just because of that.

[steady pond]

im of firm belief that sky should've been a game that lets you quit when you want and not feel a massive sense of FOMO when you miss a few days of playing lol. but thats kind of wishful thinking at this point

[quaint jungle]

Unless you have 1.5k candles, 500 hearts and 200 ac and somehow gotten all ts, Your screwed getting the new items and taking a break

I could understand the unfairness of lowering prices but in exchange of newer people who have for force themselves to get both last year and this years cosmetics?

Imagine future newcomers missing 14+ seasons. Newer ts also coming and costing more and more. And now events stacking up for 2-3 years of content

[tacit ridge]

I completely agree with you. As someone who has tried my best to get caught up with the latest seasons I’ve missed, while attempting to get seasonal items and finish constellations on top of that, I can definitely say that it’s just way too much. The structure we have now makes it so unbearably hard to just take a break.

[fierce snow]

hey，Who knows how many WLs there are in the new season? Where are these wl locations

As far as I know, there is at least one wl

[visual ocean]

Omg it's the shard event -....

Or I'm late to the event?

Anyways CRAB RAVE

[coral cosmos]

where do shards fall in valley?

[visual ocean]

Dreams

[versed steppe]

I thought it was at Hermit again...but I don't see it

[coral cosmos]

i'm in dreams village rn and i don't see it here either. are there other locations?

[versed steppe]

Stand corrected, at hermit

[agile hazel]

omg going to hermit is such a pain

[visual ocean]

I'ma check

[wary star]

yeah. sky's really dying out, and tgc is doing nothing to fix it

get on, do your quests, get off. that's what i do, everyday.

[copper hound]

just windpaths it, v speed

[agile hazel]

I would if I've done the Flight quests

[spark lance]

I wish we had flight teachers

[coral cosmos]

aw hell got hit by a crab and lost all my light and couldnt get up so i slid all the way down the hill

[visual ocean]

....... The sudden urge to take the TLP to the shard.... But can't because he plays guitar

[versed steppe]

Welp...I feel bad...I caused someone to get hit by a red Crab cause they were trying to light my candle 😬

[agile hazel]

What do you mean?

[spark lance]

How to fly normally and good cause I kinda find it hard to fly

[versed steppe]

Sorry if that was you and you're here 😅

[agile hazel]

You can ask in #looking-for-group-live
Also is this for beta or live?

[spark lance]

I wanna see it in beta first

[agile hazel]

Flying is exactly the same in beta and live?

[coral cosmos]

oh there's a wl in the newest quest memory. wonder how that'll work after the season's over (no seasonal area 🤔)

[dawn wraith]

I watched a recent Kakdamba video about the crawl feature and-

God even without being a beta player it hurts to watch- I really hope tgc removes that feature entirely, not for the rock event, not for eden, not for losing light, nothing

If they add it, it can and probably will end up with people quitting sky, if you can't even get past the first area in eden then how in the world will you get to the spirits? How will you regain your wedges? You'd be stuck with the same amount of wedges as a moth who'd never gone to eden before and only ascended candles

I am not a beta player, honestly I don't think I will be

[agile hazel]

Did you see it yourself or did you look at the edited pic in #beta-screenshots-videos ?

[coral cosmos]

saw it myself in game. it's on one of the whales

[nova bay]

Everyone can give feedback, even if you aren’t in beta

[visual ocean]

They're huge-

Big whales-

[dreamy grail]

WE have 6 quests guys-

[visual ocean]

big fishes

[sinful bough]

Where is/are the shard(s) in Valley today? In the village again?

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[visual ocean]

TGC WHAT'S THE STORY BEHIND IT!?

Also they're in hermit @sinful bough

[coral cosmos]

huh yeah six quests. wonder if the next will be something new and not the same old relive memory from shard

[versed steppe]

Dang it.....

[dreamy grail]

Surely the final one will be different, also we should see UG implemented next build? Please say we're getting a F2P UG

[cursive tinsel]

So... what's the next creature we have always wanted to ride?
Also did anyone find WL/shinyboi in the whale area?

[inland pier]

interesting, but in the next quest there will be a whole fauna of Sky in general?

[agile hazel]

This is ridiculous, 5 whole quests of simply burning darkness, there's no amount of payoff that can justify this at all. I've held off until now since there was a possibility of something different, but no. This has been nothing more than a glorified event. Hell, it's at the point where I didn't even register what the 5th quest was supposed to be, I just immediately went to the shard, realised, went back to the guide just to confirm my suspicion.

Not to mention a SINGLE wl that you have to wait an entire 10 weeks to get

[vale lagoon]

Oh man a Dark Dragonish Honk would have been cool for this season

[visual ocean]

I think is best to extend season of performance a little bit-

I'm still trying to figure out the story behind this season... But we're just receiving memories from the shards...

Or the shard is someone-

[inland pier]

King's memories

[limpid crown]

Wait... If there's a winglight in that memory, how are we still gonna get access to that area after the season?

[visual ocean]

Okay so what we know so far in summary

Eden suddenly kaboom and throwing darkness all the kingdom

Our job for now is clearing darkness and gathering light "memories" from a jelly and manta

After that the shard appear to us and showed us a MEMORY VISION to us using the creatures to us (some going to the light)

Jelly to crab with flying plants to manta to krills to whales...

What vision is trying to tell us?

[cursive tinsel]

Has anyone got evidence of WL today?

I can't even get back to the manta scene to check..it could all be an edit as others say

Of it was is these one time only void spaces...it will make the 200th wing a one time offer( until next season)

[agile hazel]

I already grabbed it and can't go back, but it's definitely there. In a little crevice of the middle whale

[visual ocean]

Or is flashbacks to the moment WE DIE AGAIN LIKE HOW THE SPIRITS DIED !?

[cursive tinsel]

So maybe or maybe not 1 WL in manta, 1 in whale...anyone still on 4th quest to check of there is 1 there?

Edited: manta scene WL was possibly an edit but not sure

[nova bay]

Maybe all the memories have WL but they have been added in later versions… waiting for when we will be able to review memories…

[inland pier]

I guess more that these are fragments of some events in the kingdom that are sealed in a shard? To be honest, these may be memories of the past and hardly the present. But everyone understands that, doesn't it?

[agile hazel]

Wait, a wl in the manta memory? Haven't heard it mentioned before, are you referring to that pic in #beta-screenshots-videos?

The pic is edited, it's a fake.

[tropic radish]

So...are the shards supposed to be in the village ?
Oh boy

[visual ocean]

Hermit

[spark lance]

the what now? wl in memories?!

how come i have never heard of this before

[visual ocean]

Hmmmm Flashbacks then?

[inland pier]

most likely, because in fact it is more logical.

[visual ocean]

Hnmmmmm ....

[agile hazel]

Oh wait nvm, someone else posted a pic of the manta wl. The original pic was just the wl ontop of regular ground and not the mirror floor of the void, which made it look edited

[cursive tinsel]

Oh I am so confused and I can see no way to go back and check

[visual ocean]

A memory from a shard.. oh what's the meaning

Pieces from the Eden king?

Cause the elders are still alive... So

Maybe he's still alive-

[inland pier]

Or maybe it's a sealed king in a shard? But, this is debatable, because there is no evidence.

[cursive tinsel]

It feels like a new addition. I'm going to have to replay the quest later and hope to get back to the ancient memory

[half nest]

completing fourth quest today (provided that the memory actually works and the room isnt empty)

[agile hazel]

This is such an awful way to add in wl, it's locked behind a quest and you have to wait weeks to even do the quest in the first place

[visual ocean]

Hmmmm what's your theory if i may ask

Maybe we can combine ideas

[cursive tinsel]

They both look really high up for new moths
7-8 wedges needed in that manta video

What if the moth has no recharge with them or spells to get there?
You can't see them on entry or flying around near entry so how would anyone know to look before leaving?

[young chasm]

isn't that why veterans are supposed to adopt moths?

[cursive tinsel]

Can you not play with your friends who are all new?
Seems odd to have to rely on a high wedge player/ veteran in a season

[inland pier]

Honestly, my theory is only about the past memories of the kingdom itself and their certain fragments of events and also time. Every memory has something to tell. Only in some memories, I started to find the essence a little bit, but it is rather blurry. Somewhere, a fragment of a memory is shown that darkness envelops the kingdom. Somewhere flight, resettlement of light beings.But these are purely only very vague proposals.

[gilded parrot]

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[young chasm]

well then there are those players who like to break the game to find things, so would having a couple hard to get stars really hurt?

I can't say much because I'm not a beta tester, just a curious old player

[visual ocean]

True true... Hopefully TGC adds an update that can help us that connects to the past

And some more clues too!

Also i realized the shard is alive 👁️👁️....

[inland pier]

Yes, that would be nice, because we don't know what's behind the memories.Perhaps we will see what will happen in the end.

[visual ocean]

It moves like rose- and somehow it teleports-

Maybe I'm thinking too much-

[agile hazel]

I couldn't care less about the wings being high up. The major issue is the wings are locked behind quests that you have to wait 6 and 10 weeks respectively that you have to complete a shard event to even enter the void, which are timed

[flint lance]

i found the winged light in the newest memory by accident. i wasn’t really looking for it, i was just trying to fly up on top of all the giant whale things (which required an anti gravity spell and a few instant recharges). i have 9 wedges in beta and i’m not sure i could have reached it if i hadn’t already been flying down from a higher up place. didn’t think to try reaching it from the ground before i left.

[spark lance]

If they leave WL inside a quest, it means somehow we should be able to recollect them in the future, means this dark room will stay in sky kingdom forever?
Does this mean TGC tries to change TS system in the future?
Does this mean anyone who start to play after the season ended can visit this place and reactivate the season and buy pass, collect those spirits items?

[visual ocean]

3am thinking lol

WAIT HOW THE SHARD CAN COMMUNICATE WITH US!?

LIKE ITS GIVING US WHAT TO DO

Yeah I should sleep lol

Night y'all

Screw sleep i need ANSWERS

[coral cosmos]

time 2 think outside the box......... what if the shard is the king or another spirit that is like. extremely corrupted. what if someone is in that thing