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to chip in
as much as I'd love to wear the basegame white cape more, I never touch it period because of the bloom flickering in the light
even if I wear it in vault it will flash and the contrast just...pain 
I don't have photosensitivity issues but it's frustrating
I usually get 15 - 15.75 (max).
- I have a route that I like and I stick to it. It doesn’t matter what your route is (or if you even have one), as long as you feel comfortable doing it, then that’s the best.
- Light the fire first before saving any kid.
- Stand by the fire and watch the rocks. Only move at the start of each gap (if it isn’t the start of a gap, just wait 10s for the next one)
- Not all fires are at a safe spot and not all safe spots have fire, it can be helpful to notice where the rocks are hitting before going for the kid
- As someone else said before, don’t jump on the last area, just walk.
- Only stop to get the kid when you’re behind the statue, so it protects you from rocks. Or better yet, don’t stop if you can help it.
I think that would be a great idea. Certain colors bother me more than others... I think a color slider could be a helpful experience, too, for colorblindness. But I would have to ask some of my colorblind friends about their thoughts on what specifically would help in Sky.
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I feel like RNG isn't involved much in Shattering but waiting is. I guess what makes Shattering events appear as if they're tied to RNG is the fact that the quests are so bugged at their current stage and the absence of proper guidance towards the right location for the shard events. I think skill is involved too, sort of, we have to avoid the crabs when we're burning them, but it's not as difficult as the trials.
I'd list my criticisms of Shattering but it's 12 am and I'm exhausted...
I don't suffer from significant colourblindness myself, so this would be a really interesting take!
one of the reasons I love invisible cape is because it doesn’t have a recharge animation/cause bloom 😭
They could add a third area that is much harder, for example. This would give Eden experts something to do and aim for, while keeping the number of AC we have access to constant or increased.
I have some minor hand issues, so I'll answer.
Most days with a controller, I can more or less easily manage quests and farming a realm before needing a break. But on bad days I can barely hold a controller.
So it used to be in sky, I could have a friend help me and maybe press upwards on 5 to 15 buttons. Less than I'm doing now xD
Now days tho there's so much stuff that each person has to press and how often hand holding breaks that now on my bad days its hard to even have a friend drive me for just quests.
Oh, believe me, handholding used to be even worse
I MEAN THAT THE SEASONAL AREAS USED TO BREAK HANDHOLDING WHEN ENTERING
what is happening and wdym by this hUH
Thank you, useful feedback! What do you think would be the most helpful things for fixing this?
I was there when it was worse. ^^;
remembering the days when piggyback would break with every transition
Maybe this channel is flooded a bit and don't see it either. Regardless, all ideas should be going there to be noticed and inspre other idea makers, here they would be just buried, but TGC made several ones live from #wishlist-and-ideas-archived

Anyone who will just enter the chat...they'll get this completely wrong 💀 oh my god
@desert token that was painful i hated it and never used it with my friends but now thankfully i do
So like things like clams could be made so that when one person pulls it, everyone gets it. And some of the newer quests could be changed. Like for example I think it's slightly pointless to have us have to rewatch cutscenes? Basically stuff that doesn't require multiple people should, jmo, give credit to everyone holding the hand of the leader.
But other than stuff like that I think it's a bit hard to address outside of fixing hand holding and making splitting happen less often.
Also I think I'm gonna step away for a bit. Have a good one y'all! It was honestly a nice conversation 💕
This game needs a bit more accessibility...but I can't really figure out how to improve the controls aspect. Using my switch lite is leagues easier than using a phone for me, so I would suggest a controller first. But if the kind of issue isn't aided by a controller like what was mentioned...Ah, heck, I can't think of another compromise 
Yup, Buying recharge potions won't do you good. Gonna be a nightmare on Elm Street.
I think this is an interesting idea to consider since it would be useful for almost anyone to have as well. it might also lead to more instances of the phenomenon where skykids being led by someone else keep their candles out even while flying though - which can also be visually irksome
You can use controllers actually. My partner has accessibility issues and can only p,ah with controllers
Yes, but Vee specifically said that using a controller can be hard some days. That's why I mentioned I couldn't think of something outside of controllers, cause that's what they needed
Have a nice day, and thank you so much for your feedback! I'm compiling a list of suggestions based on everyone's feedback that they've given so I can submit a list of suggestions in one big chunk. I appreciate all the suggestions that all of you gave about accessibility... This really helps me figure out what sort of ideas are ones we need! 
That would be awesome (just saw that!). Tbh I hadn’t even thought of being able to burn the plants, just having handhold that doesn’t get undone when people get seashells, are hit by crabs, or do carry spirits would be more than enough
honestly speaking I also think the afk timer is an accessibility issue, but I have given up hope on ever getting that feedback to stick
oh man when handhold breaks on crab whack......and the other person gets yeeted across the realm
You have no idea how many times I sent that feedback too T^T ever since it was first implemented in beta, I send it so many times
I had more trouble with this when I was a moth, but when the camera suddenly zooms in REAL CLOSE JARRINGLY if your avatar is close to a wall and is stuck in there
and seconding that it would honestly be the biggest game changer for the ability to cancel spirit relives so we don't have jarring camera pans on CR
Off topic bUt
I still have 2 bug reports to do I'm sobbing

Am I the only one having real problems to figure out how to find the shards on the realms? I’ve been struggling a lot to find them lately. I’ve searched and searched but they would never seem to appear anywhere. And the only time I found the shards was in forest, which still didn’t complete my daily quest. Maybe I’m doing something wrong, I can’t understand
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here
Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!
yeah, I know for a fact that the comm devs have acknowledged it being just that as well - but apparently it hasn’t been given the weight I feel it deserves.
No, everyone has this issue. The devs haven't implemented a way to indicate locations yet, making all of us confused
As a thought... I wonder if it would be possible to have an accessibility handhold feature enabled where, if another person has the auto-assist feature enabled, if it would allow the leader to "pick someone back up" again. Where if the person's handhold breaks, instead of the follower having to press a button a few times, the leader could pick the person's hand back up again and continue leading them. It would have to be a feature where the follower has it enabled, that way people can't come and troll all their friends by dropping their AFK friends in front of krill, but in addition to improving the handholding strength, it might be helpful.
I'm sure your not the only one, I personally just look through screenshots to find where they are
But make sure you send this to #beta-feedback too, to make sure the devs see it
I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here
Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first 
Hehe I know
What Vee said about seashells counting for everyone, undoing handhold when reliving a spirit, season quests like the skater race down on village, these are all hard for us
why are there hacker defenders in screenshots channel- 
I just did some assembly quests just now to help a moth and like
I wonder if it could act like when other people happen to activate the quest and you have the compass icon above their head (and if you press it, you can join them), that could show above the follower's head and the leader just has to press that since the follower has consented to it
Cause the idea of "if I see someone do a bad thing, that means I can do it too" isn't obvious to some people
i'm not defending them what
Oh! Like the moth “help me” button! Maybe that could be a permanent “keep help me button active” thing and they don’t even need to implement new mechanics!
why start an argument then? in screenshots of all places
.. it's not an argument??
Also to the person who said they're not doing anything: they cant really pinpoint which accounts are hacking, they need to be reported, then their account history needs to be checked, so they do get banned, it just takes time to make sure they're not banning a falsely accused account
Okay, so guys
Hackers/exploiters bad. Encourage to delete content that involves hacking.
Yes? Okay.
YES
i was saying that the "attention" reason wasn't really a good reason, that's what i was trying to say
we should still delete the content
Yeah! If it's roughly the same mechanic, then it might not be too hard to implement. I'll add that into the list! 
The attention thing would be a matter of personal preference to the offender, I believe.
I think it's more important to delete content of hackers to prevent users in the discord thinking it's okay to exploit the game after seeing the content
How about we move on? 😊
Let's get back to the topic at hand.
How's beta?
Pain
It feels like it was beta before
In other words, same old same old for the first couple builds in a new beta patch 
Not for me actually, but i heard people are crashing a lot
Guys move on
Arguing would be saying hacking is good, Glow just simply said theyd spoken to a hacker who disagreed with the "they do it for attention" statement. that's not defending/arguing, it's just stating what they've heard
I think this would be less painful at the start of each day if there was a tiny cutscene when interacting with the guide for the first time in the day. The cutscene just does a pan-over of the location that the shard will be in. Like, just shows five seconds of Sanctuary when it's there
@stiff tusk (and anyone else inclined to continue that topic) let’s move on please 
do you know where i can contact a dev? someone posted some of the game files on youtube and i don't know where to report
*crashes when I look at pretty much anything detailed *

But one that doesn’t give us motion sickness 🙏
Enough of cutscenes at home, 2 is enough 
We don't know what's causing the crashing. People on any Android version can experience it or not, people on any make of phone can experience it or not, people with low RAM can experience it or not
Either via email or send a dm to Tethys (I think)
okay
Okay, that's a fair sentiment. What about a text prompt?
We just need something more obvious than the sky turning red because it can turn red at any other point on each half an hour and is quite delayed sometimes
Sounds good
My crashing is cause due to what I'm gonna call "corrupted areas" (not as in darkness corrupted
) where my textures glitch and if I point my camera at the glitching textures I crash
Doesn’t it turn red everywhere? I was in Prairie yesterday and the shard was meant to be in vault
Ah, well, textures being bugged is a highly notable Android bug, but has never really caused crashes
@lament mica As far as I know, on half an hour, skies turn red. Even the areas the shard isn't currently in.
You only know where the shard is because the red stays after two minutes. Which is quite a bit to wait for
It's always been the cause of crashing for me
they went offline when i dmed them skfokfkckdfovjcvkfkkc
Make sure you send them the link to the video too
Idk, I normally crash on beta updates when an area is new or being worked on.
The number of times I've crashed in sanctuary is high, from first release, then several beta releases after that.
For me it's normal that the first few builds will break and then get better as it's refined
See, I don't really crash, so it's not a universal issue. The only time I've crashed in beta was a few days ago, just randomly during play while I was at Home
Yeah I'll pull out the "different combinations of android hardware" image again
tbh I’m not sure who would be best since contacting staff is supposed to be for emergences—for now, please go ahead and send it to #contact-the-mods though
Definitely. I run, like, 12GB RAM so that probably stops a lot of memory issues 
This insanity, and this was from a few years ago now
nagati i already sent the message to them
Then you have done well 
Android just likes to be a problem
/j
what even is that supposed to be
it's just squares
*Sees HTC one, remembers that phone came out in 2013... * 
Each square was a different hardware build of android, mostly by sales I think?
that poor bottom right pixel
Here's the source article, I read and forgot most of it a while back
https://www.ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2014/5/20/android-fragmentation-redux
Woah 2014, yeah a few years ago, and it's only gotten worse
Was anyone able to complete the second seasonal quest today? If so, do you mind sharing with me exactly what you did? I thought I just needed to complete an event in Prairie, so I cleared the darkness in Sanctuary...meditated... (twice)...still no luck
Yeah, per AppBrain, the most popular Android phone model only has 2% market share today...
Sounds about right
Reminds me of a podcast episode I heard a few(?) years back that talked about how there’s no such thing as a “fish.” 
We use this label to group together a group of animals that live in the water, but once you look at their biology, you realize that, say, crabs and salmon are about as related as a mushroom and a pine tree. We use one word for them all but they’ll never behave and live the exact same way because they’re all deeply different creatures.
Same thing with Android. I submit: There’s no such thing as Android—just a bunch of different creatures devices that live in the waters of Google instead of the terrain of Apple 
I was thinking this was going to a "birds aren't real" place 😂
I'm having the same problem myself(i have an android). Had to redo them more than four times in different days, at different realms. Still nothing. In my case the crystal quest is bugged.
Well they aren’t because everyone knows that birds are just really feathery dinosaurs anyway 
Are you saying dinosaurs weren't feathery?
this is some good beta content
I am extremely tempted to divert into silly off-topic conversation, but if I did a mod might come and bonk me. 
Uh, so, beta friends…are Sky mantas feathery? 
lmaoooo
The ones in orbit seem to have feathers
I was just going to say this is getting off topic, but #lore-discussion-spoilers 's wooly manta comes to mind
is there a reason shards only spawned in sanc today 😭 i was hoping birds nest would have some but none showed up.. and sanc shard quest refused to complete 🙂 twice
smooth manta club
yeah that happened to me too, you’ll just have to try again
Mirian is here, look busy!
Oof the beans
💀 i’d rather just wait till the quests get fixed at this point.. the wax burns so slow 
It seems that you only have to burn a certain amount for the meditation spot to be available, solo it takes around 5 mins? Roughly
But 2 of us managed in about a minute with white candles
my 2 year sky anniversary is coming up on may 31st, and then my Beta 2y is June 10th 
I have a theory as to what's causing the Shard to sometimes not register as completed, but I need help verifying. My theory is that if you have a prop of any sort (chat table, Mario pipe, light sources, etc) active when you meditate, the shard won't register, but if you have no props or you take them back before meditating, the shard works normally. I've reported this to TGC, but has anyone noticed anything like this (or possibly very different from this)?
The second quest isn’t working for me. I did twice and still nothing happened
Are you using props or spells to help you fight?
I did it 4 times and nothing
I've only had the summer lights lantern on, and completed both of mine first time, however I do know someone doing it with me it failed for. I think they had an instrument though
Only the assembly torch
I have a theory. I can't be sure this will work, but I think it might. The next time you try, be careful to take back the torch (so it's off the field) BEFORE you talk to the guide to go to the void.
Just checked the vid, yes they had the anniversary guitar, and it failed 3 times
Not saying that props aren't a factor, just not the only factor
I can test this for you. I'll report back and see if that's the issue
||where is that one hidden season candle clauster in wasteland?||
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here
Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!
are we counting completion as being able to enter the void, or being able to progress up the guide’s tree? I have been able to access the void, but the third quest is still incomplete when I do
@spark lance it’s the same rotation as abyss - look up daily compilations for wasteland to find all the candles
Honestly I have no idea. I'll mess around with the theory and report my findings. Xehrebec may be onto something here
So I've noticed that when it doesn't register as complete, you can still enter the void, but it's empty: you should see statues or images, but there aren't any.
I don't use any props and have still had it not complete more times than it's actually worked, it's an interesting theory but unfortunately I don't think it's correct
Me too ^^ I usually don't carry anything
i remember someone from staff saying here the issue is from a weird % mechanism they put in the quests so i think it is dependent on how many dark plants you burn
i tested a bit and if you burn all the plants before meditating it 's more likely to complete
still took me 2+ tries tho so
Is there a reason why I can’t complete the first seasonal quest?
Because after I finish the shard event and meditate to enter the seasonal area, I just see a blank space with the shard guide and no completion text
that happen to nearly everyone
try doing it again until it works
oof i went in* circles and had to work with it, keep.. trying •—•
I took your advice and it totally worked after the third attempt!!
Anyone else think that since capeless is gone from vault elder that means that they could be working on the elder nodes or might be deciding to put capeless in game?
because people still have capeless in their closets.
I think could be this potentially:
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(God forbid) they're removing capeless entirely and we will never get in live
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They're changing capeless currency from hearts to AC.
Explaining: we all recently got our hearts reset so tgc probably heard a lot of feedback from beta players at that time about how hard it is to get hearts in live much less in beta and maybe that got them thinking. It would also make sense since they're adding new ways to get daily AC, so Eden runs plus daily AC would make it much easier to get 999 ac as opposed to 999 hearts.
- They're adding SOMETHING to elder nodes (perhaps whatever had the shield on it) and removed capeless so they could sandwich cheaper items in before it for AC.
I hope it's either 2 or 3.

Did they remove capeless omg
Alternatively someone might have hit the wrong button again and yeeted capeless 
Also I haven't hopped on beta yet, but someone pls tell me tgc loves us enough to swap out the chill sunbather quest for one of the rainbow ones so I don't have to relive that again after doing it in live 
Could be a bug but atm it is not in the vault elders constellation tree 🥲
E: i think people that got it before still have it?
They just removed the nodes but everyone still has. That's why I think they're scheming
Also valley elder nodes gone too iirc 
THEY'RE SO UP TO SOMETHINF I HOPE ITS COOL
Likely story skybot. Trying to cover up the truth 
i did it 4 times , once on beta and 3 times on live being with friends pfffft
Hey i just did eden in beta right after live for comparison and yeah its so miserable. I just had a big cry over it with a friend
its so unforgiving.... im so scared of eden now
whats wrong with Eden again?
a lot
kind of glad i crash when i so much as enter eden because after experiencing the crawl outside of eden i cant even imagine the pain of it in eden 
im gonna go see for myself then. i only did eden once a long time ago and i dont remember the experience
Since you cant deep call to reignight people (did it with a friend) you need to light them, putting yourself at risk. Youre slow when you give a wl to a statue, you crawl when extinguished, cant see your menu or wl when extinguished so you cant go home or anything, youre stuck on flat ground so if youre away from a light thats on a different elevation youre screwed. I was scared to go anywhere.... it wasnt a risk i could take anymore to save the children. I was too vulnerable and its so harsh and unforgiving. Tgc wants to elicit emotion in eden but its frustrating and personally
Counting down my wings was what made me emotional my furst run and not seeing that panicked me
You curl up like youre giving up when youre at 0. Its horrific. They took away jumping too with the void and with orbit
i think the emotion tgc wants to elicit in eden when they implemented that mechanic is frustration
w o w. ō__ō
"how does it make you feel?" mad. lol
I really really hope capeless is coming to live. So many of the recent seasons’ clothing look so much better without cape.
Agreed. All I felt was frustration, and all honestly seeing that I couldn't get up. I just gave up
tgc for the past couple of years with eden: hey, eden is basically the end. you sacrifice everything. you are giving yourself up. and you get very special candles as a treat :)
everyone: yay :D
tgc now: hey so we will make eden harder than it is already
everyone: oh
my favourite/most memorable part of eden first time i went was realising what was happening after a few statues, if that was followed by my sky kid giving up when I was clearly there to finish something i think i would of just closed the game thats horrid
i think they should elicit frustration without making ppl rage quit
TGC like the crab so they upgraded the crab
i really am just roasting tgc on this decision aren't i. in a way i feel bad but eden for me
it was like
u kno, u keep going a tiny bit after you give up (and lose some) your winged light, it's like ur character is not giving up and is trying to keep moving forward. but now it's like. bleh
I personally felt i was saving as many as i could and went down knowing tragically there would be more in the storm i couldnt reach. Meaningful tragedy is wonderful but. This just feels like an insult. This is just cruel. I keep crying bc im upset over what i just experienced. I felt punished for trying.
if theyre so set on making losing light and eden invoke more emotional responses in the players i think theres ways to do that aside from making it so hard some players feel hopeless to finish and give up :( hopefully they make some tweaks to that new recharge mechanic haha... (scared)
thankfully this is just the beta so the few thousand of us will only feel this pain. if you are dissatisfied with this mechanic please go to #beta-feedback and give constructive criticism on this
Life has enough frustration as it is right now, so this feels like overkill.

I'm sure there will be balance updates or adjustments to Eden, TGC may have wanted to get feedback from beta players especially with the new damage system addition to know what to address from player POV. It's painful right now but it's a good thing to test from our perspective so we can help them adjust it, I hope.
The shard quests will also give AC too though, when not bugged, correct? Or am I misremembering?
If they do, that may also lessen the painful feeling of Eden if we don't have to go through it weekly or perhaps even monthly.
Exactly!! Everything that’s been implemented (or removed, ahem spasm-spiral-rocket) lately feels like punishment.
We’re being punished for all the time and emotion we invest in that game.
Not cool TGC
sending you so many hugs thats awful
With Eden like this it might be yearly at most. 
YEARLY EDEN I CANT LMAOOOO
I think reporting your feelings in feedback, if you have not already, would be worthwhile. Do keep in mind that this is a fairly early version of beta and generally early versions tend to be painful.
(I seem to remember a version of fire trial taking people over 4-6 hours to finish once in Beta.
)
We can hope that feedback like yours can help polish it to make it feel better to players as a whole by the time it reaches live. 
Actually I feedback too the capeless price cuz IT WILL TAKE ME 5 YEARS TO GET 999 HEARTS💀
the invisible cape was meant to be a beta-only thing thats just for fun for those who have been playing for a long time and have too many hearts to spend 
As already told, that price in beta is final. Be social, and it will be possible as possible is and was for others.
A question about the third quest. Do you need to successfully complete two shard quests to complete the third quest, or just one? I missed the past two days of shards because they were bugged for me. I've completed the Sanctuary one today but only got an empty space and the questgiver is telling me I need to complete one more shard in Sky to complete the third quest. Do I need to wait until tomorrow, or did I not successfully complete the shard in Sanctuary?
Should I, a non-beta tester, give my opinion on how the "knocked down" state should be reworked? And would you guys want me to share my idea on how it would work before I submit it to feedback? I personally seen the new crawling mechanic and while Sky is a game about self sacrifice, it really does add to the Eden experience here but it seems to need some tweaks so that players don't feel so vulnerable in the endless rock rain in Eden.
Yeah I saw theres nodes on elders, I supposed since its WIP I think elder masks or elder props or pants?
(but they remove it lol)
They could change it to AC due to feedback and now that we have ac events in addition to weekly Eden runs in a future updoot. Could happen 
I think submitting feedback could be good, but perhaps make a note that you are not a beta tester and only viewing this from videos, not actually experiencing the gameplay directly. 
I haven't even been able to complete one shard quest because my game crashes 😭
the quests just ask you to clear up a shard in the realms of sky, meaning it could be any realm, so whatever shard you clear would count for whatever quest you need to do (it wouldnt skip any and they are not specific realms)
Where was it announced 
I see zero chance to change that (would be unfair to previous players who got it without ac or any other ways)
Will do, is it OK if I share my idea so I can gather opinions on whether or not it's a solid idea, or will it really not matter to others what they think because everyone's ideas are different and unique?
Ok, so it sounds like I just haven't successfully completed the Sanctuary quest then. Thank you! Here I go...again!
I suppose it's a bit of a struggle since I'm usually alone when doing the shard event. 
Thank you!
I'm not saying it was announced. I'm just saying it could happen and beta is beta. It's always changing so we can test stuff for live so there is a possibility.
Yeah but some players are doing this in a wrong way, like passing through multiple players doors. I think it's right because I'm a solo player and no more friends

Except for when they wipe your progress 
Share your idea first in feedback and then perhaps discuss afterwards?
Best of both worlds then.
Many users could and will be able to get it still regardless progress wipes. I admire them for doing it without candle glitches 
Aye… was working on it without the glitch so losing that progress was painful.
Thanks for hugs 
I just did a 5 paragraph response about my experience 😔 it was emotional but kind towards them. Hooefully they understand my words
God forbid they ever have to reset our hearts in live due to some glitch. Currently saving in the event capeless does come to live and at 221 hearts rn
Hehe agreed
That's wonderful! I'm glad you shared, I hope it causes positive changes for the Eden experience with this new system.
Make sure you take some time to relax after going through that struggle-Eden in beta right now is really rough so you've certainly earned it. 
Bro I’m so frustrated how do I complete the first quest. I’ve done it twice now and it’s still not marked as complete is it bugged?
Actually while it's not on live yet, I'M DOING EDEN EVERY WEEK NOW 💀
Ya, seems different for people so bug report would be helpful.
It is bugged. 

Im going to take a much needed breather for a bit and play some music
thank you for the support
The direction could use some work for these quests in beta, you're not alone in being confused.
If you're not seeing a memory of some creatures inside the void when you meditate, unfortunately it seems like you didn't successfully complete the quest. The Sanctuary one is quite difficult to do solo, I've tried 4 times now so I understand your struggle. 
Try burning all of the dark plants, and also if you can get a friend or stranger to help that would be a great assistance too. I think you need to capture as many of the floating manta lights after you meditate post-clearing dark plants. Which can be hard to do solo, I usually average about half of the manta shards which doesn't seem to be enough.
If you want to share your idea with us you can, but you can also go ahead with just feedback too, everyone has valid ideas and it can be great to have a discussion about it but ultimately tgc will appreciate any feedback you have even if you're not currently part of the testing programme 
Regardless that idea is very far from reality - read #beta-faq it's not a placeholder price (and the situation would not be fair with others who got it via hearts)
It’s killed my drive to test more for today so I’ll try again tomorrow :/
The quest is just bugged. I didn't even get half of the Manta fragments and I completed the quest
Until new update the shards wont fix themselves
so we wait and collect candles, check cosmetics 
Ah.
Well, thank you for saving me from going at it a 5th time!
I will wait until tomorrow.
I would assume that the amount of fragments you get translates to how much wax the event gives you. But it's bugged, and each event has a different amount of fragments so yeah
Yeah, I didn't get all the fragments either and I was worried that would be an issue on why my quest wasn't completing the first time. Is it even possible to get all of them or am I just slow at flying 😭
You could get around half solo, but I doubt any solo player can get them all
Okay, so prepare for a bit of a text wall in my next upcoming message, as it's the feedback I shared about the new crawling/knocked down animations. I hope you guys enjoy discussing about my opinion on how that damage system should be reworked and tweaked.
Despite the struggle of doing the shard 4 times in a row, it was pretty fun learning the placement of the flying fragments, and getting better at collecting them all. I went from collecting only a third to collecting just over a half.
I enjoyed the flying shard gameplay! The plant burning...not quite as much.
Hoping the speed of the plant burning is adjusted.
Hi, I want to establish one thing first before I write my feedback. I AM NOT A BETA TESTER. I am giving my ideas and opinions on what I think about the new damage system in beta, where you are put in a "knocked down" state and slowed to a crawl. Without further ado, here's my suggestion:
-Make it so that the more winged lights you have, the less time is needed to fully recover from being knocked down.
-Make it so that the more winged lights you have, the faster you are able to crawl while knocked down after being extinguished. The less winged lights you have, the slower you will crawl when knocked down and the more time needed to recover. Make the maximum recovery time when getting back up from being knocked down 10 seconds long, and the minimum time to recover 1 second, or for every time you level up, your Sky kid requires one second less to recover when extinguished and faster movement speed when downed. This makes it so there's a reason to get wing buffs and winged light in general.
Oh yeah, when you have to repeat the quests a bunch of times because they've decided to sleep in, the plant burning gets really tedious. It felt like I've been burning plants for ages before the meditation spot finally appeared. I can't deny the fragment thing though. Definitely more enjoyable than standing around a plant forever, hoping not to get bonked by the red crabs 
i think this is a cool idea and i agree, though maybe 10 seconds for the maximum is a bit too long? (like they could be hit with another rock in that time and it would just start the timer over again)
I am aware but things could still change. All I am saying is that it could change for live release if it ever does release. I've read beta faq. I'm just saying it would make sense if for live they changed it to AC because everything in the elder constellations are for AC and we now have more ways to get it.
Also people can change their mind and beta faq can be edited it isn't written in a stone tablet. I get it would be unfair for beta players but tgc stated again and again to not treat beta like live. That stuff can be erased and closets could be reset. Ktjn even said to not come to beta expecting to get every ts and to not try and do stuff like that because stuff gets reset. If they did decide to make the price more fair for live players and make it be AC then we'd probably have to test that and make sure it didn't break. If we ever get it because we might never get it in live. I'm just speculating about what could happen. I'm not trying to say it should happen or something. And I'm not saying I wouldn't feel bad for beta players who got it via hearts either. I'd sympathize with them. I didn't mean to draw this out into a big exchange it was just supposed to be fun hype speculation.
and honestly the currency change isn't the one I even think the removal of capeless and valley elder hair nodes would truly be. I'd be more happy if it meant they were giving us more elder stuff.
Nah, it won't reset the timer, it was just to establish an example, though. TGC is free to set the maximum and minimum time needed to recover. The endless rock rain will also not reset the timer, I should have mentioned that, dang it.
Basically, it will be hell for new players?
rip moths 
Yes, kind of. But that's just the direction TGC seems to be going now.
I find myself wondering and comparing Eden in beta with how the end of Journey feels. The end of Journey is slow-going and full of stumbles as well, but I feel like it is done in a way that doesn't feel painful or disheartening, albeit certainly sad.
Perhaps it's due to it taking place in a blizzard instead of a storm with rock rain? Or that there are no statues to aim for in Journey unlike in Eden?
I suppose there's a currency role in this as well, Journey doesn't have currency tied into progress of the last struggle like Sky and Eden does.
Is there a time to when the shards appear in the realms? Or is it random?
Well I mean, moths don't usually have as many wings anyway, and considering how quickly I lost my 150-ish wings without even getting halfway through the red rock rain area, it wouldn't be a very big difference in experience 
Every 30 minutes right now in Beta, it's in Sanctuary although the shards completion is bugged.
I posted a feedback earlier suggesting that some invincibility frames might be a good idea: not a huge amount, just enough to prevent those horrible frustrating stunlocks, at least at first. My thought was that once you were hit, you couldn't be hit again until you were able to move, plus (one-half second for every 10 WL you were currently carrying). That would let people get a little ways into late Eden, but the rocks would still wear you down, and maybe towards the end you even could still get stunlocked. But it would at least feel like you put up an actual (doomed) fight, instead of just being squashed like a bug in an instant.
Oh?
I have no idea about that. In my opinion, differentiation of recovery between new players and seasoned ones is not necessary. I think the new players already have disabilities by having less wing power and more likely to lose it. Why make them suffer more?
Like I said, TGC seems to be going in that direction.
I was questioning your suggestion. So the base reason why you want to suggest that because you think TGC seems to go to 'that' direction?
Yes.
WHATS UP MY HOME SLICES! HAS BETA GOTTEN ANY BETTER SINCE YESTERDAY!?
Well that shard event is actually appearing at least 😅
uh bread emoji idk
Some people don’t care about others no matter what, and removing these glitches changed absolutely nothing to that.
I need to speed my cr, being in Sky all day long is just ridiculous! Vault’s time was cut down to a third with glitches, however I always stopped to help other players.
Now I see people just running straight past us to take the elevator when all we need is one more to open the door. Who’s being rude?
Is there a specific time and place where shards appear randomly in sky?
In beta its every 30 minutes starting at the hour. The realm is whichever has the shards on the gate. Today it's Sanctuary, so tomorrow it'll be somewhere in Hidden Forest.
Oh that’s why i was confused at first but ty for info
I’ve had the exact same reflection
i cant enter in beta 😭
I have a theory… I finally got my quest complete when I collected more fragments.
But damn they go way too fast
If this hit live I’m gonna bring a moff and place them where the rock will fall into 
is the shard comes every hour at half past? thanks
how to traumatize a moth 101
I've been lurking in this channel and idk if I should be scared it's gonna be hard or excited it's gonna be hard and I won't get bored anymore
What are your guys opinion on this next upcoming season? I saw a youtube video that was quite moppy about it, but the season to me has some great cosmetics and although clearing darkness is irritating, surely it'll be patched up for final release? What do you guys think?
Tried to go through eden alone this time, and I was immediately downed trying to get into the wl area right before pnr 
I'm gonna speedrun bringing my friends and screaming to each other jk jk
I'm very excited myself, I'd love to get into the dark side of Sky ngl
But other people don't like it as much, I think some said they are even quitting? Which is a bit concerning since it's still in beta and it already scares people 
I'll admit, some of the cosmetics do look expensive, and some gameplay looks a bit unfair, but they can still give feedback and the devs can change the final product
It's not in live, so we aren't doomed just yet
yeahh, idk why people are getting so frustrated at the season... TGC said they were trying something new and now people go as far as to say they are 'money hungry' 😭
I think we just all need to remember that we have only been testing this season for a few days, so of course there will be some rough patches here and there but there's still a long way to go before everything is finalized 
and with the new potentially permanent features being added, it's only logical that TGC will want to take their time to listen to players feedback on all of it.
Yesss, and also it brings large new concepts to the game, like how losing light affects the character... A lot of this will need us beta testers to give feedback because these concepts will be game changing for all players.
It's in beta but still.. I hope they're gonna make the quests less boring it's repetitive and just burning plants avoiding crabs it's the same ,there is a lot of potential in these quests.I hope they will improve this
I saw a content creator say in one video: oh wow this season kewl and everyone in the comments agreed. Same person(?) has another video saying there's almost nothing to do, and comments also agree 
Lol was that [REDACTED]
Eyooo don't call out people 

I agree, though the quests are a bit broken right now , it is definitely getting repetitive very fast, and the lack of background story on these "memories" we are reliving doesn't help. I REALLY hope they add more depth to these quests because I would love to understand what is going on with eden, and this random talking shard piece.
yeah but I find it funny how they were wearing the cosmetics and saying how the season was a money grab 😂
I mean the IAPs are free in beta so...💀
Yeah but they were wearing cosmetics from the new season saying how the season was so bad, anyways enough of that... I atleast hope most people are going to be happy with the final product, and that TGC improves it to the wide majorities liking... all in due time of course
Idk why but it feels like the shard thing is like the repeating events that give wax like sanctuary sunset and the polluted geyser 
But the season is still 9.99
I personally won't be buying the days of rainbow IAPS or any IAPS in the future, because those are a bit expensive in my country and I only believed strongly in the days of nature cause
Weekly eden shower
Moths gonna get confused 
sorry this is unrelated? but i just did the shard event for the first time and after i finished it asked me to meditate to view a memory or something? but then it just brought me to an area similar to the season area but without the 2 things, so essentially a blank area and im really not sure what i’m supposed to do from there
Im back now I had to pick up my partner from work: Yes I know we are recording this discussion for data and consistency and will be presented to Wishlights and ideas, Beta Feedback channels etc.
Still waiting on a pants for the dark side 
Do we know how many days will the season be when it will get to the live version? was it like 78 days?
There's supposed to be jellyfish if it's your first time but a lot of people have had trouble getting the quest to be complete. So you might have to redo the quest again and see if jellies appear for you this time.
alright i’ll try doing it more, thank you 😄
No problem, just don't worry too much if it doesn't work the next few times you try the quests again. Like I said, many players are dealing with the same thing, so let's just hope this issue is fixed soon so we can properly test out these quests! 
That is actually one of my concerns : I worry this season of shattering might bring about more want to be hackers into SKY that want to get around some of the new rules and systems that are being presented in Beta right now.
I am going to need help and if you're willing to participate this would be great, I need some info to get a presentation written up and want to share it here for discussion via publishing it.
It will then be reviewed and made available for everyone to see and then shared with the TGC Devs, the presentation will be summarized with info source and footnotes on the bottom.
I think Season of Shattering will be fun, me and my friend are going to be the 'Light' and the 'Dark', I will unlock the light cosmetics first and he will unlock the dark cosmetics... though the darkness cape will require him to unlock all the cosmetics 💀
Guys can you buy the high pitched piano in the harmony hall?
We got Crab on shoulder but what about Krill pet on shoulder
I want the light creature that the light whisperer saved on my shoulder too 
Would you like to participate?
Please let me know in DMs I am going to be asking a lot of testers for help
Is it confirmed that the elder hairs protect from krills? I think that will be somewhat useful for the new season
This is another good idea on dealing with staying Lit in Eden, please contact me as I wish to share your idea with others and TGC.
I am going to compile a presentation of issues with the current battle system and crawl system in Eden, as well as what issues it is going to cause on site and how it will economically affect Sky in terms of Ascended Candle currency
No, I think they said the shield thing that would pop up when you wore the elder hairstyles was a bug. It would've been really cool though, I honestly liked the idea when I saw it 
😭... I mean I guess it was an unfair advantage, and krill dodging is relatively easy... unless they change that 
I was already prepared to buy the whole constellation lol.
I tried that. Weirdly, actually being struck by a falling Shard doesn't hurt.
I'd still like elder hair to do something other than look cool. A single shield that breaks and has a cool down would have been cool.
Devs have said the elder shield is a bug, but never stated anything else. For all we know it could either be a scrapped feature that's not meant to be in the game, or hopefully it might be something that's unlocked at the end of the season
Like perhaps an ability like how diving was?
that'd be so cool. Like unlocking the hidden ability of elders after restoring the land this season...
honestly it they started giving useful abilities at end of seasons that'd be so cool
Yeah, I submitted feedback on this already but I really did wish the elder hairstyles were more than just another cosmetic. It just makes more sense because it's like they're rewarding you for completing their constellations, which is something not many ppl have done so it would encourage them to do so.
I definitely think, with how the state of the new season is right now, that the very last ultimate reward should be something relating to protecting skids from being terribly damaged against darkness related elements. Say, when you begin the season, it's difficult and you have no protection, but once you become skilled and finish it, you can protect new players from the harsh effects by helping them with the season... but that would be during the end of season and it would mostly benefit the player individually
I am going to work on a feedback soon I just need to formulate my ideas properly and with actual intent
Perhaps make one of the ultimate gifts actually be a buff to the Elder hairs instead? Like a symbol indicating a buff but with an elder hair next to it to show that? And make the buff protect you once from Krill attacks, and prevent you from losing all light in the rain first, like say you lose all energy, then it starts to decrease the shield energy, then it works on extinguishing your flame.
Yes let's all convince the devs to bring back the shield, I want to see more players with the Isle elder beard 
Yup sounds like a general good idea.
Yeah; I mean, it seems like they put an awful lot of effort into it for a scrapped feature. I'm thinking it's probably supposed to be an effect like the shinybois in Prophecy, but they put it on the Elder hair to test the effect and then forgot to take it off.
Beta Testers:
I need help please, this would be the perfect opportunity to get some testing done, I have a special request for all beta testers here:
Please if anyone is willing to help and participate in this test is greatly appreciate, I need some data to help confirm some things to formulate a plan of action, I need a few Beta Testers who really want to be involved in the development and help to smooth out the new proposal that TGC wants to go when it comes to Being Downed and being revived.
Please send me a DM if you wish to participate further,
The first request I need to know is about the Recharge potions: I need to know exactly how they function when it come to recharging your energy.
Right now I think players who will feel the detriments of this season mostly will be solo players. I believe this because of how the crawling almost completely immobilises the player, losing wl fairly easily. Me myself being someone who doesn't always have friends surrounding me, I would definitely have to be more careful.
I DIDNT MEAN TO SAY MOTHS AAA
It really seems like a good concept when written down, too. They executed it poorly though as it seems it can be abused, but with general tweaks and nerfs, it can be an awesome feature and make getting the Elder hairs a goal.
I would love to help but I am not a beta tester, I have just been viewing the content that is readily available to me and attempting to form my own opinions and informed suggestions 😔
Yep, I tried doing eden today, couldn't even get to pnr before a rock slammed my poor sky kid and I was crawling immediately. You're so slow when you're like this too so unless you are right next to a light source, no friends or players around and you're screwed.
yeah I definitely think the changes shouldn't take a toll on eden itself, because it would be near impossible for players like me to ever get the glimpse of an ac again
And once you get to the endless rock rain it is every player for themselves, doesn't even matter if you're with friends or not because everyone is crawling around trying NOT to die so they can get a decent amount of statues 😭😭
Yeah, that's one thing: this mechanic forces you to be WAY more cautious in Eden. My runs up to PNR are slower than they've ever been, but they've also been cleaner.
I just had a stupidly neat idea that makes the crawling mechanic less annoying. Maybe we can press the jump button and our Sky kid will attempt a weak "leap" in the direction we go.
In the live I am definitely going to stop wasting my ac on height potions, because that currency will be far more valuable IF what in beta is translated into live
Hmm. Like a short lunge that knocks you down at the end, but at least you moved? That could be interesting: impractical for many situations, but possibly good for getting out of stunlock. I like it.
Yes, exactly! You get it!
Honestly, I'll take anything just to speed up my poor skykid when they're down. It is just so painfully slow its not even funny. And the visuals when that happens makes it even worse because everything gets dark and it's harder to see.
Welp bye guys - school for me.
I am going to end my existence off by saying this, hopefully the crawl will be improved and possibly removed... for everyone's sake 😃
Also I noticed the rocks in Eden seem to push you back now. It wasn't exactly like this in live, right?
Honestly, the darker visuals are almost as annoying to me as the slow speed. It's harder to see, you lose your emote menu, and you can't even see how much light you have left. And in late Eden, light means time, so you also can't see how much longer you're going to have to sit there and endure this beating.
Bruhb
Yall...i ate a crystal 
I feel like it should get dark at first when taking a hit, then immediately reopen the screen where the darkness was once covering, and do this only when it's a "critical" hit similar to how in live when you get hit "critically" by the rocks it goes in slow-motion.
Exactly. If I wasn't with a friend the first time I went through this, I may have just exited the game lmao. I do appreciate giving sky a more challenging aspect but so far this isn't even fun 😵💫 its just very frustrating, and you can't even get much ac out of it because of everything so even reaching orbit was disappointing.
I know i'm supposed to be dead but I definitely think some TGC staff should discuss with beta testers in this channel, just like they sometimes chat it up in gen chat... then they would be able to absorb feedback and bring it back to what they discover (more details that might've been misunderstood in feedback). this shouldn't happen a lot, because we already have feedback, but it would be interesting for them to simply discuss what is going on in beta (not future updates but current changes) to be able to get a better perspective on how the player sees the new implements into sky
That could work.
Some of them actually did come by earlier this week, asking about why people found the crawling so frustrating. There haven't been any new builds since then, so we can't be sure what they're going to do about it, but they said they were taking notes.
that's good, I definitely think the crawling should be removed if anything... or something less, punishing 
I honestly really liked the crawling idea. It adds a lot and the final animation when you die was really neat. They even changed all the statues positions and everything, but yeah, definitely would appreciate something less punishing.
I agree that the crawling works great from an emotional standpoint. It just needs some polish. This is still a game, and feeling fair is important in games, and this just doesn't feel fair. That can probably be fixed without taking it out completely.
Sky children of the light: difficulty update 
honestly the crawling and stuff is, on my vision, a great change when seeing things from the wasteland, now u really have to get your stealth skills working but in eden is mindly annoying
getting all the statues (on global version) is already a difficulty task, since after an update (that made you lose more stars when getting hit than before) and now the crawling, is kinda almost impossible, even with all the stars, today i went to do eden and I got stuck into a loop of my skykid getting criticals but can't move because of the impact, then getting impact again over and over at the same place until the oof 💀
The statues positions and the new positions we do when (oof button) are very cool, nice attention to detail
at least for me, it only needs a polish from the dark vision (it covers a little too much of the screen) and on the eden
If possible, I'd like to see the new death animations while in pnr in Eden, I haven't seen them and it'd be neat to see them.
The darkened vision definitely hit a nerve with me as someone who already gets incredibly annoyed when being constantly bashed by rocks even before the crawling animation. I was honestly prepared to just sit there and await death just so I wouldn't have to deal with it, but the completionist in me wanted to get all the statues (spoilers: I didn't.) I've yet to really experience crawling anywhere outside of eden so I can't speak much on that but I hate risking wl so for me I think I'll always find crawling just a tad bit annoying, simply because I don't want to lose any light lmao
How can I get bata please
I need my message to reach TGC about how I feel about this season, do you know where could I post my concerns?
Please please I am begging you how can I get bata
Bata--😭😭(i'm sorry but bata means brick in Indonesian so I can't stop laughing uskdvekabre)
Check #beta-faq !!
brooo
theres going to be a change in eye of eden
shame that moving in the red rock rain will no longer be easier and will give us less ACs than we thought
Ok so where the heck are the quests… I tried doing them before when the season first came out, they didn’t register. Even after the updates it’s not working except now I can’t find the quests. I keep going between birds nest and the cave area but I don’t see it anywhere
I ate it 
Today they are in Sanctuary islands!Islands! Specifically on one of those tiny islands far out in front of the jellyfish cave (if that makes sense.)
You need to wait for an invitation period and click on that link asap
hey uh, why are there so many moths in beta? I keep encountering them and the last wave was in, like, April
For the first quest?
For the quests you just need to participate in a shard event, and today it's happening in Sanctuary Islands, so yes 
Hellooooooo I cannot find the darkness shards in prairie… I checked both birds nest and caves and there’s nothing there. Is this a bug?
Look at the gates in Home. One of them has crystals growing out of it, and this is the realm where today's Shards are. Today, that means the Prairie, where there is one shard in the Sanctuary Islands (they have also showed up in the Caves and the Birds' Nest, but not today).
Yea I’d seen that but even on the day where they were in forest it was showing on prairie so-
Thanks thoooo
Just be mindful that the quest mind not end up getting completed, and you'll probably have to do the shard event a few times for it to possibly even work. A lot of people have been struggling with that unfortunately.
There's another problem. Forest's, Wasteland's, and Vault's Shards don't work. In Forest they show up but don't activate, while in Wasteland and Vault they don't show up at all.
Can I assume it’s wherever daily quests are?
Thanks!
Any Shard will work for any quest, even if you've used it before. You can keep going back to the same one and use it for as many quests aa you want.
can we please get sky on computer?
my phone literally dies when i try to play beta on more then 30fps (default mode
Ok so, the first quest is still not being marked completed for me for the season 
Yeah, unfortunately that's an issue many have run into. I've been having to do all the quests twice in order for them to complete, some have had to redo them even more with no luck still 
Today was the 4th I’ve done
I’m just tryna be a good little beta tester 
Yeah I haven't been able to complete the latest one with the sanctuary islands 😮💨
But good to know it’s a common issue. Guess I’ll have to wait for another update or two
so was the shield effect explained by the devs? or no info about it?
I think they stated that it was just a bug.
even the unique effects added? like the shield icon and everything?
I guess so. It really did feel like it was more than that but for now it's nothing. I myself think they should consider it a feature but who knows. If it was a scrapped idea or something it could've been scrapped for a reason.
Wait so the elder hair won't be a shield then?

Those have not been explained. The shield icon actually dates back to the early betas of Light Awaits, where it was used for a completely different mechanic that later got scrapped. My speculation is that the shield effect was meant for something else, but they put it on the elder hair to test it and forgot to take it off.
That's right, I'm afraid.
You could always go ahead and suggest it in feedback though! I've seen a lot of people here give great ideas for what features could be given towards elder hairstyles.
Thank you and aww man, I really thought we have a permanent shield for krills and crabs (maybe not eden, since it'll be too easy)
@sinful bough (I'm sorry for the ping) I would gladly do that, thank you! 
I feel like that shield should stay with how hard this game has been made. Plus there's no reason to get the elder hairs other than for cosmetic reasons
I agree. It gives encouragement to complete the constellations too, something I've yet to do on live and beta.
Personally I think we'll see it again this season, in a different form. What that will be, I don't yet know. Maybe a temporary effect like the shinybois in Prophecy? Maybe even a permanent effect like learning to swim in Abyss?
Hi everybody ☺️ quick question, I did my first mission, but for the second mission, dunno what I have to do, so Where do I find the second mission?
I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here
Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first 
Any Shard should work for the second mission. You can even use the same Shard you used for the first mission.
wait, you can reuse shards?
Oh the thing is that those shards doesn’t appear anymore for me, so i think that’s a bug hahahahaha, but thanks for you kind help.
Yeah, there are a lot of bugs with Shards right now.
Is it possible to have 12 wedges? Because I saw someone with 12
Hacker
I think the shards are on rotation, today's shard is in sanctuary!
Yes, I’ll try to restart and I will see, thank you so much ☺️
God I don't have much time and I still gotta get the session candles from 2 more areas and do the shard event again because it glitched out the first time
Maybe find a candle buddy to help you out with them lol
It's weird, there's like a double rotation going on. It seems like each realm has several different places shards can be, but the shards aren't necesaarily guaranteed to appear at all of those places on a given day. For example, last time Prairie's Shards appeared at the Caves and the Birds' Nest, but this time only one appeared and it was at Sanctuary Islands. This is probably true of other Realms as well, but we haven't had the opportunity to verify that yet.
I wonder if it's possible that the bug in Wasteland and Vault is that it rolled to see where shards would appear and all of the possible places came up with no shard (in other words, if they forgot to guarantee that at least one shard would show up every day).
Just got the last session candle for today time to speed to Sanctuary Island
I couldn't finish the quest in sanctuary... could someone help me
I would be very happy if someone could do this quest with me again
I burnt most of the shards and caught most of the lights, after I meditate I fell beneath, and I flied up and teleport to the void of shattering , but it still incompleted
feel free to ping & dm me, thanks
Wild guess ! The next shards being in hidden cave in forest!
Ion think so how would they get down there they are like meteors
It'll either be bridge, sunny or wind paths or treehouse
Probably wind paths
to be fair the shards managed to land in a tiny hole in prairie caves
True that 
Flight spirits already had to deal with wasteland darkness, now they're gonna get shards raining on them
Yeah, the Flight folks have had one heck of a rough go.
Is beta Crashing for anyone else and not letting you sign in?
my game crashes everytime i take a picture and randomly when i light people
It wont allow me to sign in at all.
oh oof
kinda have the the feeling that sky is becoming to big for a phone game
I'm on a newer version of an iPad
until now the crashing problem is still not fixed 🥲
btw crashes what the crab goes on in eden?
the visual bugs are another level i crashed 3 times because of them
man— im going to put this in suggestions later, but this would be the perfect season to include the scrapped eden crown cosmetic— either as an ult, or maybe reintroduced as a reward for completing all constellations
None of the shards have worked for me so far… I feel everyone’s pain!
I just did the shard event but I think I got it bugged, I meditated for the memory but nothing happened with the guide, it still shows the first quest incomplete
Wherr are the shards today I was finally able to do one of them but not the second one so what do I do know where would I find the second one
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience
Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!
I have been shouting this from the rooftops every day please contribute to my shouting into the void in #beta-feedback 
Can tgc fix the bug that magic keyboard can’t chat? It already keeps many versions.
I still can’t seem to find the shards 
Its in sanc today but im having a hard time
There is only 1 and its in Sanctuary Islands, in those little ones far out in front of the jelly caves
Hey, I was gonna suggest some cosmetics for the new season, but idk if I should put it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived or #beta-feedback
It's dual butterfly hairpins/butterfly mask
that can recharge your energy (up to 4 wedges), a bird on the shoulder, a baby manta on the shoulder, and a cosmic manta cape 
Did the rainbow pants use real money to buy?
i would suggest putting it in the beta feedback channel since it pertains to this current beta season, and the devs are much more likely to see it there.
what do rainbow pants look like?
Hello, I have a question. Are the shards timed? Like do they appear only at certain times because so far I don't happen to find many of them when I find time to play... This way I never get it done with the first task😫
But I saw in youtube it shows that rainbow pants cost 9.99$ ;-; I’m confused
They appear every 30mins I believe
Eden erupts every half-hour, at :00 and :30. The Shards arrive between two and three minutes later.
Oh... That's a bit annoying then😅
Thanks for the answer!
It was $9.99, but they changed it. Now it's 95 candles.
they used to cost real money, but now they are scheduled to cost 95 candles. this is why you need to take everything in beta with a grain of salt, because it most likely will change before it comes to live.
Tysm!
First quest completable now?
Why are the prices of the season cosmetics so unbeliavably high? Is earning candles much easier now or what? Is there some balance?
Well yeah, 2 memory spirits and it should have some kind of balance
So there are only two spirits? Ig that makes sense yeah, alr. Thanks :D
Yeah, just 2, although they're not exactly spirits bc you don't go out and collect them like usual
Anyone else get antsy for an update over the weekend? Its summer for me, so it makes me want an update even more because I'm not busy
I wait for Monday on the edge of my seat because then I can start looking forward to an update during the week if at all
If you can get the Shards to register as completed, yes. It's not yet completely clear what causes them to not register, but it's possible props may have something to do with it. My advice is to either not wear any props, or at least make sure you remove all your props from the field before you talk to the guide to go to the void.
Yeah, but the devs probably have the day off tomorrow (it's Memorial Day in the US, where TGC is based). I wouldn't expect an update until Tuesday at the earliest.
So is the uped difficulty still going as is or has it been changed? Cause looking at what was first presented, I can only imagine the amount of Moths that'll just quit. I've been playing for a couple of months now and still have an insanely hard time in Eden.
Oh wow, I didn't even realize it's Monday soon. I graduated so I'm not very busy either, but for once the week is something I look forward to lol
True. At least I have errands to run tomorrow 
Headphone prices anybody?
Please do that.
It'll be neat to add the crown as a gift after finishing all constellations
wait when you clear forest you can see the season of shattering trailer which includes eden
idk if thats a good idea for new players who joins within the season
It depends on my opinion, some players already have a heads-up from their friends
Have the season ultimates dropped? If so what are they?
(ping off) may I also offer the Eden crown edit I did for u to slap into feedback as well since u said u were gonna ask for it to be implemented 🤲 #beta-screenshots-videos message
What do you mean by that?
Capes.
That's it, just capes.
Real sick capes
I did throw a few darkness pant edits into feedback and asked for them to be in season as maybe a third ult. People are so creative in beta. 
the season trailer plays after you first complete forest and open valley, the trailer contains footage from eden
We got a light robe why can't we have a dark robe?
Or evil pants?
Personally still waiting on them to add crown of eden 
Dark pants with krill protection
Me too but I'd also really prefer that to be a reward we get for finishing all constellations. But I do want it bad enough I wouldn't be upset if that was a third ult to the season, just would rather it be permanently available in orbit instead of ult locked into a season since it's a heavily lore based item
There's like 3 light capes, 2 hairs, 1 clip
And one dark cape, 1 hair, a mask, and a clip
Fair point. A cosmetic that nice deserves to be free to all whenever, and not locked when the season ends
(THREE (?? Lol) hairs krill hair, royal jelly hair, and manta hair)
2 light hairs (jelly and manta)
is the shattering showing up in prairie? sky's still blue
Question. Is the krill horn trumpet able to be bought yet?
I also kinda wish the jelly cape wasn't so
Stiff??? Like, I see what they were doing but it needs help
I just realised-
There is no mask in this season?
Darkness plant mask 
Oh right thank you ||also ping me next time||
I think krill mask and eden crown would be good
Red (blue maybe?) crystal corruption accessories would be awesome
If you need help with anything, I'll try my best!
That krill-like crow mask from abyss concept art 
So to register the quest as completed I need to remove any prop I equiped when I completed the first task and go to void and talk to the shard. I see
the eden boom sounds are satisfying
We're not totally sure that this works yet. It's just a theory I have. It seems to help, but it hasn't been tested thoroughly yet.
did they change the shattering shards schedule? i thought they'd appear by now
its in sanctuary, it will change in 2 hour
It’s on sanctuary island this time
Krill pants could like
Be in the same vein as Jello Whisperer except like
Blacks with a little bit of red or blue, definitely give it an overall tattered look, and maayybe the tattered remains of a cape wrapped around the waist? 👁️ 👁️
oh thanks!
question here, i do every season quest and the end we will get the Ascended Candles, am i right? because i didnt miss any season quest like after clear the shards and have the animation gain candles, but my candle didn't change anything, still same amount (confused
【seems is a bug】
as someones whos finishing the dark first,i dont think so
drinking tea with my lovely cute hamster beside my mouse sleeping
Thanks hwell. I've seen a few people with the horn, and I wasn't sure. (I'm doing light constellation)
now that thats out of the way is the chubby cape obtainable now? pretty sure its not right
no red crabs at this shattering but i found a new mortal enemy: butterflies
im honking to get rid of crabs not go into the sky!!
Yup. Unavailable
To unlock those 85 candle nodes on either side, it'll take 4-ish days, I think.
literally my whole thoughts whenever i deep call lmao,was so scared id miss the quest timing
I had a thought...when the "spirits" of this season will return as ts...what will we have, a floating light ball in home?? 👁️ 👄 👁️
Most sc anyone should have by now is 160-ish, so another 2 days before people can unlock the 85 node
Does anyone know if there's a limit to how far you can go when you're in the memory rooms? I got a bit far out but never ran into wind walls or anything
there is a wind wall. It's pretty far out.
Is it possible to continue beta progress if I switched to an ios device 
as far as I'm aware yes, as long as you link your account to your email or something!
I heard that you have to wait for the beta invites if you switch device
But how do u get the invite code for testflight?
tbh, I completely forgot about that 
Rip I guess I’ll have to wait until next season :/
You need a specific invite for iOS, but once you have that you can definitely continue with the same account as long as you linked the first one.
Cool thx, I did have it linked to google
Oh wait I still have my android tablet 
I crash the moment I enter eden, no ACs for me
hello everyone 👋
i ate the eden sorry
Heads up for this flickering with seasonal cosmetics in protection of fellow players.
Anyone sensitive should report and/or feedback it:
D:
There are too many groups here =')
@cosmic orchid server rules ask that we do not post about hackers. Could you please delete that video?
Thank you! 
Too many groups of what? Are you looking for something/someone in particular?
there are only #beta-looking-for-group and #looking-for-group-live,
but if you meant channels, then yes
also, I noticed that your sorta new here. I believe beta is not the best place for new players to start off, but you're welcome to snoop around
Oh sorry I used the wrong word =')
Welcome to the server! If you want to just chat, please use #general-sky-discussion. 
If you have gameplay questions, they are very welcome in #questions-and-help
Oh thank you
Why do new server members so often end up here? Isn’t it weird?
Hello yes hi okay
So they boom red and island of sanctuary?
||Cries||
Or is the sunset?...
I often ask myself the same question. Maybe they see it's discussion but less rapid than gen chat?
Hnmmmmm i mean... They tend to ignore them... Honestly
ඞ 
@stiff moon apologies I'm pinging you here since I'm on cooldown in screenshots.
It's a bug to play instruments you don't have. The bug shows whatever item you have instead of the instrument, so it looked like I was playing drinking a boat, rather than the new trumpet.
This theory helped me! I had tried 4 times before but had been using the fire pot during the quest. I couldn't get the memory to display, doing it solo or with others.
However I tried without having an prop equipped a little time ago and it worked! Thank you for the advice.
Ahh i see, so that's how people do that glitch
The state of genchat in the past few months just discourages various new folks from chatting in those channels. Some come here only to talk about beta too. Chat channels have been off topic for a really long time now and even regulars like myself don't have the desire to talk there much
skipped genchat and cozy chat entirely
Generally it seems like there's always an influx of new members here in beta channels always when a new season is testing in beta. I'm sure they're inspired come here from some youtube, instagram, bilibilli, or other social media post about the new beta spoilers.
It could be also that a few extra new members joining in gen chat isn't really noticeable compared to this channel, due to the different speeds of each channel.
That's my guess. They saw beta spoilers, and get excited
I think there's also a tendency of beta wannabes chatting makes feel as if they get closer playing it
I have been able to complete them each time with an item still equipped… dunno if the specific item matters though. I think I had the torch equipped. Maybe platform or version is a factor too?
the season constellation has no purpose right?
Did you place the item down and then pick it back up before meditating? I saw that could be something that could be fine and still allow for completion. I couldn't remember if I had picked up my fire pot before meditating, so I just didn't bring any prop just to be safe while giving Xehrebec's theory a go. It did work, and that was the only thing different compared to the 4 times I attempted before.
Very odd!
I saw someone write that dev told a few days ago they put a weird % counter and you have bigger chance if you burn plants even after the meditation circle appearing and it has nothing to do with props
I think it's intended that it should have nothing to do with props, but if there was a bug due to props I wouldn't be surprised. After all, it is beta! 
I cleared out all plants 3 out of the 4 attempts prior to not bringing a prop, and it unfortunately didn't work, attempting solo or with others. Could be worth looking into. 
I did all clearing with props and did 2 quests
Yes, the first two quests I had no trouble with, oddly enough. Only this quest was it stubborn in granting me the memory. 
So far I haven't had any issues with props and my quests 
i don't carry any props in beta and have had to try multiple times regardless to clear the quests. if anything it might maybe have a chance of bugging it out but usage of props definitely isn't the only problem haha
Yeah, that could be true. Could be multiple factors at play here, I wouldn't be surprised!
Size note: I'm actually happy that the red shards didn't hurt the butterflies I'm the area... If they did then it will make me cry-
Anyways is anyone able to finish season quest 2 or still bugged?
I'm not even able to finish first quest
Feels like the nightmare when Assembly season was here
im honestly just waiting for the season to be more polished before i can do the seasonal quests
Edit: also would it be great if we get a season of prophecy appearance in this season :))
Pls TGC raise the timer, solo player suffering here 😂 & reduce the plant needed to burn before med circle opening up it takes too much time just to do a seasonal quest
like we ask the prophets for help and they would lend us some knowledge about this situation :))
the quest isnt really that hard for me, but its too repetitive and boring
Good idea 💡
how are the shards today?
its still in the same spot?
damn what if the shard hit treehouse
....... please check- now I'm worried about the spirits kids-
Is the new season Ap still the same price?
wind paths would be a nice place for a shard area
How many days left is the new season?
Omg.... I found it
It's near to the pipe in brook river
found what
the 2nd shard?
The kufu spirit? Is near around that area
ah its at the same spot
Yeee, i wasn't able to find it when it first came
i checked wind paths and treehouse, no shards
big fan of the new color palette for the darkness plants on the shards
feedback time :))
Siiiiiiiiigh.....bugs lol
wind paths and treehouse seems like a reasonable place for the shards to hit
85 seasonal candles.... For a crab on the shoulder plushie-
Yes this will be an expensive TS-
i just switched to light side after i saw the price
yes ik the prices are the same for both sides but i want the music sheets
Me and my determined pride.... I'ma get those 85 candles- tho we have like
39 DAYS LEFT-
probably like 300+ 
It's 190 each, so 380, I think?
+6 for hearts
lets see
each day gives 20 sc for all realms
plus 5 for daily quest and daily candle
and if its 39 days left
actually can someone do the math im still recovering from exams
dude you get 100 in five days without doing the dailies, we're fine
It's the Live ones that will suffer
ah
true
we will all suffer once its live
#JusticeForLivePlayers
366 for accuracy
957
380 + 6 = 366? 
why thank you
i didnt expect that to be a lot honestly
isnt it 975
NGL tho, i feel like the music sheet would be best of switched around
Cuz the music sheet from light sounds suitable for dark while the music sheet from dark sounds suitable for light
I think
No...Please use the calculator for both memories...that's not 380
i feel like tgc have done something like this before
like the music sheets not sounding like their respective spirits
idk which season tho
DUDE...190 times two is 380
As usual lol
this discussion just transformed into a math exam 
No, 180 for one tree...
oh i know
music sheet 8 (the forest theme)
belongs to a spirit thats in wasteland
25+10+50+20+85 is 190, there's two spirits to buy from so double that for the total
I'm in pain, oh my god
No, check the prices again
25+10+50+20+85+3=193
Anyone else having issues with memory circles appearing for forest?
Y'all keep forgetting the heart costs 3SCs lmao
Why I'm seeing math problems-
did they change???
welcome to thatskyschool
The first cosmetic is 25. The first blessing is 10. Second cosmetic is 50. Second blessing, 20. Third cosmetic, 85. Heart, 3
@visual ocean that's why I'm doing it for you
No i did not sign up for this!! I HATE MATH BTW 😭
(It's a joke man)
dont all of us do? 
Okay, i forgot about spell thing
Ah! Okay, that'd explain it. I'm glad we're on the same page now 
Guys it's already confirmed the trees are 193 each, calculating at 386 for completion
Every where I go, I see his face…
Math
Anyways, no one here able to finish seasonal quest 2?
Or is just me?
that's what our entire conversation was about 
math am I right 
Wow 2 SC less from performance season!
Please no more math- 
No more math!
finally, peace
take me back to dreams season
||except for the crashes and bugs||

3.14189
Forget, i made a mistake
NO
We're all good. Thank you for giving me a good laugh though, subconscious
I could joke, but I won't...
i should probably be doing my analysis
My inattention even makes someone laugh, hah ...
Anyways... The damn crabs got power up-
As revenge for honking at them
soo where exactly now at in forest? the shards
i still want a season of prophecy appearance in this season
Btw, anyone completed those shards??? Coz i can't, they always disappear prematurely...
The entrance and the next area by the pipe where the kufu spirit is
As far as I can tell, they'll disappear prematurely if the half hour turns. Please start 2 minutes after a half hour, and finish before the next half hour
(2 minutes because the explosion happens at the half hour and the crystals fall 2 mins later
where can the shards be?
What? They have their own time for coming and going? Weird...
The entrance and the next area by the pipe where the kufu spirit is
And yes.... For dramatic effects
Yep. Half an hour after reset and repeating every half hour. 9:30, 10:00, 10:30, etc...
It for some reason doesn't work on reset. A minor issue, but odd
Damn...Add endless bugs, because of which have to go around the second circle ...
thank you!
Still? Wow prarie is thriving with 3 shard areas
Yep
That's in Forest, no Prairie
No, i mean. I thought forest will get a new area like prairie with sanc but it's still at the same place as before
and does anyone know about how to do season quest? 🤔
season of confusion shattering
Very frustratingly. The quest will probably not register the first time you do it. You'll have to do the entire thing again, maybe multiple times, UNTIL THE DARK ROOM FINALLY CHANGES.
this season is still pretty early in development so hopefully these bugs and problems are fixed by the time it comes to live 
they still disappear after 2 minutes...
Okay...that's a different bug entirely. I don't know what's causing that.
Forest still has the issue where the medi circle doesn't appear. I did Clearing and Brook, the shards just immediately skip to disappearing and leaving wax
Or should I wait until exactly 12?
I've heard about this, but the problem is how to do lol
I have no idea but still thank you!!
No, if it disappeared after two minutes in the last 5 minutes, then it has nothing to do with the time... 
How sad
So many bugs
When rainbow spirit is gone?
I have only 120 candles now...
Poor unlucky me...
So, hold on, has anyone here managed to meditate at the shard today?
No, it's the exact same bug as last time it was in Forest. The medi circle step is completely skipped
then I'd better wait for the next day...
HECK. 
so, basically, Prairie has been the only one that's actually completable (and few in valley, but I personally couldn't so...)
it's a pity that the other 2 locations are without shards at all...
Man I'm desperate now.
I will appreciate someone
answering to me.
Have you tried walking up to the jellyfish cluster at Home?
@runic girder Of course.
I'm just want to know when
they are gone.
I have to earn my candles until then.
No one knows exactly on beta because it's a constantly changing developing test app. In live version you can get it, rest assured. Beta is not replacement for live Sky
Oh, we literally don't know. We don't really get told when testing ends other than for seasons, and even then, sometimes it's wrong
I saw Redstone in Sanctuary Islands yesterday, but I retreated. When I went there again, it had disappeared. Today, I didn't see Redstone in the new area in the forest ...I'm confuse now
Wow beta is so unpredictable.
Ok. I got it.
There's redstone in forest today. You just need to look more
It's bugged
As usual
The shard rocks always show at home portals which realms have red stones , it's like daily quests rotation
really not a fan of this season's candle prices
It's every 30mins, but don't bother the medi circle is bugged
I always feel that Redstone is playing hide and seek with me, because I always seem to miss them.
I have a question about that. can you please look at the top of the forest portal and tell me if you see a black rock like usual or not?
I want rainbow cape so badly.
Man I wish I can buy it~~
What did you expect? Beta is for smashing bugs and we didn't get any heta update 
I wonder if we can keep them as pets lol 🐛
Also you could have used the 200 candles we got from reset
I tried, but when I pet it my hand glitched OOB, I can’t find it anymore
Today I don't see it either
@alpine forge you can check shard rotation based on where the quest giver stands as well
Who knows how beta season's request will going?
Idk at all.
Isn’t that you don’t see it until the event begins? Sometimes I see it sometimes I don’t
No one knows devs plans. This is the nature of beta. I recommend you to step back a bit from it and play Sky live version instead for a while. Less unpredictable
if they're trying to go for a "choose light or dark" thing then that's cute i guess but also that's beginning to make my FOMO-ridden brain a bit anxious 😳
Yes, he told me today that he was in the forest, and I'm going to take a stroll later~just slowly☕
Do you not see the red skies in the first and second area? (Not during eden eruption)
Wow beta season's request is
unpredictable too.
But sky just changed, and nothing else changed.
Go check the first area rn, it's in front of the first gate
I've already completed the shard quest and still didn't get the quest completed i even got wax from both shards
I feel even if they’ve cut it down to different spirits, the price total will remain the same. It doesn’t seem we have a say in prices overall & it’s a little frustrating
How much for the rainbow Cape and pant?
I think the cape is 175 candles
The pants is IAP but forgotten the price..
Maybe it's a bug, because I wiped out Redstone in that place a few days ago.
Hey guys your phone is ok?
My phone is dying because of the bug.
Also where is this 'must pick one side or the other' rumour coming from? The season is 386, same as previous seasons
I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here
Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first 
Pants was moved to IGC, it’s about 95 candles now
Ah sheesh more expensive
huh i guess the prices being spread out over multiple spirits makes the total seem smaller ^^;; my bad, i'm terrible with numbers even if they're layed out in front of me
Lots of bugs gonna killing me.
Yes, it's a buggy season in beta lol
Try catch them and keep them as a pet lol
I'm sorry, I want to ask the second task, I have done it many times and still can't complete it. What is the reason?
It’s a common type of events in other games, I’m assuming they’re basing that of off it
It is a bug
I have thought of a story for the ancient memories of light based on its music sheet
The reason is beta: wip 
God, I did it three days in a row😢
Lol but I'm gonna treat krill as a pet.
It's bugged or basically it can't be completed
Give it some time for the devs to fix it
Imagine living in a word where there's a really big volcano that erupts every hour
It's the nature of beta. If you want more predictable gameplay, I warmly recommend Sky live version
oh hey thats my story idea for the music sheet in the dark side
You're still able to try second quest. I haven't done first quest 
Oh I see.
But everybody will want it.
Welp I'ma sleep, night everyone
I have both versions
I'm done only second season's quest now lol
I think I’ll be waiting the quests out until next build, in case anything changes
Yes, quests won't resolve themselves without beta update 
Continue to do the task after he updates
I wish they'd reset the quest progress every beta update so they could get accurate feedback on how things play/feel after
Find and cleanse 100 shards in the kingdom of sky
Soonest update can be in 10 hours, else just wait
Other than forest entrance where shards
I fascinated by this season.
I'm so excited I can get this season item for free!
Yeah
The items are free for testing purposes, I'm sure they won't be free on Live
Yep but I'm gonna buy it on Live ha ha
I hope I can see the baked krills on Live.
Because they already have baked crabs.
Now I’m thinking of corrupted krill that attack immediately with no room for escape
pride month comin
don’t give them any ideas! 
Typing in #beta-feedback as we speak
Wes liked my idea of eden crystal krills
They definitely should
I mean, we could just put crystals on the Eden krills
I've seen the bow/pink krill fiasco, so surely the can add crystals to the krills
Is the shards' quest in Forest not working??
As per usual
I’m starting to think that’s intended
are you talking about the daily quest or the seasonal one? because i was able to do the daily
until a beta update, it probably will not work
But it's working fine for me

Forest broken for me
I tried 5 times
Are we talking daily or seasonal? Forest will never work for seasonal
Doing shard quests is like playing in a casino. Your odds of winning are 10/90
I can burn the plants and the crystal disappears, but when I collect the huge cluster of light, it doesn't actually count toward my candle count 
#beta-known-issues - it's for everyone
Did this work? This time?
Is it common that the Shard quest doesn't recognise that you've completed it? This is the first one I've done because it kept crashing. Cleared the plants in Forest, shard disappeared but quest still incomplete.
Also the update mentions "waves" of the shard event. Not sure I'm understanding what the second part is. After clearer the plants and it disappears is there something else to do? I also didn't see any meditation spot.
it's probably referring to more dark plants appearing around the shard over time 
None of the Forest shard events have a meditation spot as of now
Just made a quick visit & they all looked inactive (no glow/pulse) so I’m already assuming inactive ones will reward wax/won’t count toward seasonal 
What if it isn't that deep and it's just cause of the rain...
or bugged
I’m being sent to the Not That Deep chambers oh no 😔 I feel ashamed
I'm sending myself too
actually, I think Forest is the only one where wax appears, Prairie and Valley has some receiving animation
well, so far at least
That’s what I’m trying to say, the receive animation could be for AC fragments
Location of the shards is the same rn right?
a question: i didn't have the time to start the beta season on it's first day so i haven't really finished the 1st seasonal quest.
do i need to wait for the darkness shards to land in valley to finish the quest? i can't seem to find the answer ;-;
(sorry if it's confusing)
the shards are on forest rn you have to wait for 7 more minutes
Yea but its only for candle and there's no meditate
Yes and no.
Should be able to complete it anywhere, but the shards are bugged, only prairie and valley are doable rn
Okay so Forest Wasteland and Possible Vault are Bugged Rn And only Prairie And Valley works 
thank you all so much~! i've been trying where to find it for the past 2hrs

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here
Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first 
How many spirits r there?
none
Only two, and they’re technically not even spirits lol
Oh what r they called then?
Forest work too but its only for regular candle i think,prairie and valley it supposed to be AC candles i guess?(and you can complete the seasonal quest from AC one) Let's see what in wasteland and vault if its not bugged
Forest is bugged, GW and Vault haven't been impalmented

Ancient Memories of Light/Darkness, and they’re both in the Void. Talk to the spirit guide and use the teleport spell to get to them
wasteland is bugged (it should've appeared in Forgotten Ark but it didn't so definitely a bug idk abt Vault since no news abt it)
That's what I just said... The areas aren't existent in GW and Vault. Did you not read.
We'll get them next update when stuff is likely fixed... Probably later this week, my guess is maybe Thursday or Friday
i am bad at reading and i did not understand 😭 /lh
I think it should be random on whether it's wax or ac, would be annoying to wait for another realm to do the quests. Reckon the randomiser is stuck or something
Anyone else noticing insane lag/frame rate issues and crashing since the update? Unrelated to the events. I cannot make it to Valley ice rink because sliding down the hill kills my framerate and crashes every time. It's now almost unplayable on my phone. No issues before or on live.
Areas not impalmented means they aren't there basically. They weren't properly added so they don't show up. 
ah alr ty ty hoping they'd appear soon then 
Does anybody else have connection issues in beta ir is it just me? I play on the same phone and same connection on live but I don't have any connection issues there.
I see. It's says: retrieve one more piece of memory... So we have to wait till we have all. Not a day quest.. Its over days..
Beta and Live are different servers
jesus the rock fall into the forest, i didnt think its gonna fall there but it did, that gave me a scare XD
Shattering is just doing lawn work for the Mega Bird & it may or may not award us with AC
I know. I was just wondering if it's a problem with my game files or do beta servers actually have connection issue
Where shards today 😭 (except forest entrance)
Let me guess, Quest 1 and 2… bugged again?
After finished the entrance going to the river. There is another. If you finish you get wax.
Do shard locations change every day or every fall event?
i think they're everywhere
They seem to be always on different place. I waited in prairie cave during the explosion but nothing fell even tho that’s where I first found it, then found out here that its on sanctuary
i saw one fall in the forest too
How do crystals even work? I don't understand 😭 i did two pieces of memory but I don't where the third one
forest only has 2
qwq that means I can't do the guest today? Oh well
Thank you person with a Phos(?) pfp
You can do the same asteroid event over and over to complete the quests
Np (thanks for noticing the genki phos on my pfp)
I did the first one twice but I didn't get the third piece of memory. That's why i came here, i thought i didn't see the last place
Yeah, but forest's quest doesnt count for seasonal since theres no meditation spot
jeez, how bugged is the forest today 
not that its really bugged, it only gives you wax
gives is a strong word, never received any beyond the bird's nest event, even tho wax clouds were there 
Idk about you but I’m very tired of burning crystals , this season makes me want to delete sky and clean my room , read a book and write an essay
Just wait until the update when it's fixed
They can fix the bugs but it’s still boring
Anyone else have the same issue as I posted in #beta-screenshots-videos
Yes, several are having crash issues
Alright good to know, thank you!
good morning I see beta is still broken as usual
I didn't get on yesterday so I missed if the shard event was buggy or not, but by the sounds of it, forest is today 
quest 1 is still unbeatable?
tried with sanctuary yesterday. found the event, then burned plants solo too long/slow but with enough efforts, then meditation spot appeared, I sat there, then gathered manta sparks in air (there was 3 timers of the this), then kinda got acquisition animation with actually no gain, and found myself in water under solid, but fled up and saw the shard with rhombus button, it trasferred me with the message in pity season area right before the shard guide, I opened shard guide menu and tapped onto the lowest "!" button but saw only hint to the quest. broken?
where's the shard for the second seasonal quest? first was sanc
I ate it 
dang it sky bot
So if i'm understanding correctly, forest only 'gives' you wax currently? No meditation or manta fragments? 
afaik we know, there is no set specific location where each quest must be completed. I did my first one in bird nest, and the second in the caves the same day. haven't been able to progress the third one anywhere so far
so basically i gotta turn up at any spot at xx:05 and i'd be theoretically able to complete the quest? or are there certain spots where i can do them? the seasonal quests confuse me beyond belief. my first one got done in sanctuary.
i could complete the first question only yesterday at sanctuary, i was reading comments/bug’s report about it and they are correct,
you need to try for many times: i started at 03:30pm, burned dark plants near shards, then sit to meditate, then back to blue crystal, meditate then appeared on “new area” and didn’t complete … back to sanctuary and started all over again… at least around 8/9 tentatives… suddenly i finished and complete…
You will need to try for a long time.
I completed almost 04pm … don’t give up.
no one really knows anything about the quests for sure - it's really a gamble on if they work/get completed or not. nothing seems to be working as intended yet, so there are no directions anyone can give you that will work 100%.
yeah that part i got. i had to do the first one two times. i'm trying to figure out the difference between the seasonal quest shards vs the ones which just show up and give wax or other stuff
probably the missions are where questgiver is. that’s what i assumed, but no certainty tho.
i'm just wondering if there's only a few certain spots to do them.
ah okay thanks @supple ingot . will give it a shot. and then send an essay in feedback because 
you’re welcome, i will try it again today, for the second mission, if it works at forest, so we need to report. 0 info and only guesses 😂.
good luck 🙂
I had to do this 5 times before it actually registered completed
Is the visit a darkness shard daily quest still not fixed? 
ah, I see what you meant. I don't think it's a question that has an answer yet, though. so far I haven't heard of anyone who's managed to progress in the guide's tree via a darkness shard outside of those in prairie. however, we don't know if that is because only the shards in prairie are part of the questline or if it's just cus everything is so incredibly bugged.
Hello, Can anyone help me complete the Season Quest?
I don't understand how to do it. and do it so that there is no meditating stand
Tomorrow is the new beta update right?
I finished mine by going to the forest brook one
I would like to ask, the first and second seasonal tasks can only be completed in daylight prairie .
Just wait for the update when it’s fixed.
None of the forest shards event have medi spots, so there's no way to finish quests today
by the way, android gang, is it just me or the second round of shard events is a lot more stable than the first one? got a lot less lag today 
So i can only wait for the debris to finish the first and second tasks when it is in daylight prairie?
no, valley of triumph events work just fine (for some people)
while u guys are talking about something im gonna wait for someone to randomly play a music sheet from the light side so i can play the sheet too
OK, I'll try it tomorrow. Thank you.

Anyone know the prices of IAP items for days of rainbow? The max is 10$ for the headphone thingy right?
We don't know
For us it said free, but TGC maybe putting "free" on stuff on beta so we don't get prices till live release
@formal lintel burn darkness around shards until a memory circle appears
anyone know how to complete the seasonal quest?
It may increase in price.😫
try going to the forest brook shard
There's not yet a price though, my estimated price can be $5 or more than but I don't think it will be $20 since it don't have a donation thingy
HOPING IT'S NOT $10 for a headphones 💀
Quests are currently bugged remember guys, it's best waiting for the next patch 
i did but i didn’t found the meditate circle after burn those darkness
AH WAIT SEASONAL
I THOUGHT DAILY 
Yeah, you are not getting those done today
Went to forest brook for the shard but its not appearing,,, 
So…I found the shards at forest entrance but the it didn’t complete the first quest, anyone got any ideas?
Forest shard events won’t complete seasonal quests
guys I haven't been on sky for so long but is there a new season?
There's always a new season.
Ask in #questions-and-help instead if you have live game questions
Soooo prepare for a frustrated rant ! After watching Nast mould last night I was delighted to see that elder hair gives us krill shield 😱😁 , realised I don’t actually have any elder gifts in beta ….. rolling my eyes I reluctantly took my self back to Eden to painfully loose all my wing 2 days after just re collecting them from my first painful crawl thru Eden !!! Took myself to GW wearing my elder hair and boom 🤯 I lost everything ! Arrrgghhhhh
As dev already told here , the shield appearing is a bug and it should not work. Better to inform yourself here #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues than on YouTube (which might be outdated, etc). Also it's hard to believe you lost everything by only one krill attack, or at least if I were you and saw elder hair is not working, I would have been flying more cautiously, not "loosing everything"
That’s probably an old video from previous build. The shield wasn’t meant to be in the game.
Unfortunately the shield being a bug wasn’t mentioned in #beta-known-issues despite several of us requesting it, they had to clarify multiple times but obviously it was lost in discussion
So on top of those channels, I recommend searching through dev message history
Yes, we need to be attentive here 
Right, they also need to communicate issues better
Oh my lovely , I was instantly put into crawl which prevents you from going home or doing anything completely paralysed ! Since I had 40 wing that I had collected from orbit …. I got attacked twice then spent the rest of my time shedding wings as I tried to figure out a way of de activating paralización for future playing and testing ( obviously I could have shut game down ) but I was testing the crawl ! FYI I did look in beta known issues nothing there ! Also the video of nasty mould was posted 3 days ago ! You live and learn I guess ! I can’t see how it’s a bug tho as when you put on elder hair in closet a badge shows up and your in a bubble 🫧
It wouldbe great #beta-feedback 
Not for shield bug but crawling. That mechanism is insane 
It wouldn’t hurt to ask for better communication, if they couldn’t communicate it at the time, that’s fine but it clearly has done more harm than good
I feel it’s an intended aspect of the game that they chose not to apply yet
I also find it useful to occasionally look in the bug report channels to see if I can replicate ones I haven't found myself yet, or just find areas of interest for testing. one really interesting was that every friend interaction offered in home will turn into a hug unless you interact with the rainbow guides to make them stop offering you 🧍♂️
Or changed their minds and will never apply 
I have videoed it and sent in report plus essay of feedback
Ah I hope they’d look into that, methinks the DoR intro playing once is fine 
Probably but it would have been sooo cool as veterans who worked their buts off for years to gain such a awesome Privilege of power
At least it could have been some partial protection (loosing less light/wings). I don't want much but personally I don't feel like just to spend immense amount of currencies on some (most of them are) average looking hairs.
I’d prefer if it was a protection pendant instead
Me too, would give more dressing freedom
Perhaps a pendant with the effect reward for completing all constellations if "just one" is deemed "too simple/easy".
Personally feel that it would be really nice to get something for completing any number of constellation.
the crab accessory could have that power maybe,,?
That's a limited seasonal item - No way TGC would do so
Eh, no. I’m picturing an inactive Eden crystal of sorts, or some fancy Elder-esque pendant
I just noticed Tib and Dark are matching pfps thats so cute
Oh yesssss much better as the elder hair is far from pretty lol
Or or, the Eden crown 
elder pendants would be so cool tbh, as a part of their trees in orbit
wait they ARE?
I would like to see more pendants aside from the season pass ones
Omg I want a tiara 👑
It does look like they’re matching but it’s merely a coincidence 
Still cute either way
IT'S SO ADORBLE STOP
anyways
either way it'd be good if we got something to prevent us from dying
u mean the whole point of the game? 
LMAO EXACTLY
Since we will be able to get ascended candles the new way in the future we can skip eden [Eddie Murphy smart gif] 
Those stone kids will have no light for a looong time 
afterall, we are soon to be reaching 200 wg, it'd be a pain to wing run every week to reach 200
staying silent is best advice I can give you rn
mutual respect of boundaries helped me out a lot when dealing with them 
Eden is long and already a frustration. I prefer those swarming crabs and red rocks with early 90s CGI shrinking animation 
anyways, where exactly did the 2 spirit trees go? theres nothing in known issues
I agree. There's so much to say, but I'm burnt out from criticising them so pretend there's a meaningful textwall here 
I get it, pretend there’s a meaningful textwall in response to your meaningful textwall
:D ???
are they dead fr
i think the new way of getting ac will provide less ac than the eden version
@neat maple Your price chart is really pretty, but we're not allowed to make them in beta chat. Please see pins in that channel. 
Wdym?
Considering that we about to hit 12 wings in 3 to 6 months, id pretty much love to avoid eden soon as well lol
when I went to that area, there was nothing but the prism thing and some transparent jellies floating in the area
I wish Eden was engaging, some challenge fun. Then I'd still like Eden.
that's a first quest finale 
That just means you finished one of the main quests. Redeem it from the quest giver.
When will seasonal quest 3 arrive?
Gm beta chat
Do i have to wait for the shard event to happen at the half hour mark or can i walk in at any given moment and start it 
What do you have in mind?
That sounds like you were reviewing a memory…? Does it happen each time you teleport to the area from Home?
I miss when we could jump in the endless storm lol
hmm, ill check rn
How many ascended candles can we get daily from shard event?
We don’t know yet since it’s bugged, we can’t tell how much we’re earning from the events
what? were not getting any AC....?
edit: I got the animation of getting the AC, but not actually getting the AC
Crazy that current live eden actually relies on rng, you can fail to get all if the game feels like throwing your sky kid at the ground multiple times in a row
y'all earning anything? 
As per #beta-known-issues they are not giving wax
Thanks
As I predicted , every quests from this next season will be about burning plants in different areas in sky .... no new landscape or daily activity added to improve an immersive experience... a boring feeling is spanning inside of me 😂😂😂
Have you thought that tgc hasn't implement everything yet
hey uh. how do you like. beat the first quest or is it still bugged
I really wish that we dont have missions related to the events, unless they will be permanent at some place everyday instead of time by time
I think if something like a new landscape or even new activities were planned , they would be already in the beta , like every beta from Every past season lol
how can i do the first task? - Visit a shard of darkness thingy, it wont work when I tried to visit the one in hf
Well I think it's still under construction. This season is about Eden, so maybe they will make something in Eden
hi
I really hope so momoko, that’s why I’m feeling kind of anxious cause I didn’t see anything about it
Instead of crawling and slow walk and unskippable long cutscenes it would be great if they make Eden a race/challenge!
Instead of continuous rock rain and Skykids falling to ground devs could make the constant rock rain area not constant but completely random and unpredictable in time and areas it's falling (unlike the predictable ones in previous areas). Some small spirits of miniature krills could pop up so Skykids do the frightened refugee emote. Much more engaging and more variety than pushing hard my finger tilting up on a phone screen to make the Skykid finally go forward.
I really hope they give us something else to do for season quests because burning plants every time for a confusing memory just makes me sad have already done feedback
I agree
I feel boring with the long journey in Eden, so it's better if they can make it more interesting
That’s why I sent to tgc a suggestion about digging the red rock instead of burning plant ( what we did since ever haha )introducing this way a new gameplay and daily activities
Eden already had problems for the player community, now TGC reached into a wasp nest with modifying it to a wrong direction 
Imagine us pulling out shovels and just hacking away at the red rocks 
Is it normal when we burn plants, and remove all darkness in an area nothing happen after ? Like how can we complete the first quest ? Do we are obligated to go in Eden to unlock something ?
A pickaxe ahah , should be fun ,
Sometimes its bug or crash. I did the quest again and again until it say "complete". Need a lot of patiente these days
They're still bugged so we just have to keep doing it over and over until it registers
Oh Kk, need to fix that so. Thanks for the response

Could be so fun adding daily activities , like fishing , hunting for butterflies or digging the red rock ,forcing players to explore different areas , and all those ingredients could be used to create our own spells.... cause farming candles all the Time is getting Boring lol
Oh imagine if we could put the butterflies in a jar in order to use them for recharging later 
question! how often can you 'buy' candles from the shop-?
what would we fish and hunt for though? Oh I saw the butterfly bit after I sent this 
I think sky kids purpose is to learn from mistakes of our ancestors, that's the type of thing they would do 
We have koi fish and crabs
We cant buy the candle. Its beta. We run for candles. Edit: We have candles shop?
That's where tgc should introduce other light creatures
.
i mean, there's the candle shop for a reason,
i wish TGC introduced animals like dolphins, or orcas. as we can now dive, they should add more creatures we can interact with! like the turtle we have.
also, seabunnies...
Fireflies
Arctic foxes in valley and bunnies in forest would be cute
So many ways to improve sky 😂🙏🙏🙏🙏
The candle shop is disabled in beta
They also had deer in the early concept photos, I'd love to see them
i think they should add fireflies to hidden forest...
or maybe deers, elk,
maybe some kind of other birds? owls,? woodpeckers?
and squids!
Good idea. We have some useless decor items. So if the add some function for them, then we can use it to catch butteflies, fish, raise a pet at share place. Thats fun
Or simply make those old maps way bigger cause we should be honest... it’s kind of small ahha
isle of dawn needs some love, too!
We can't in beta, so if you saw anyone doing that they were probably hacking
i see,
Either a hacker or, if it was seasonal candles, they probably just bought the adventure pass. If they kept getting candles. Well. Then there’s a problem
Is there any way of reporting them without lighting them up? I’ve since it twice but have no clue what to do since they will never light me back 
Orr.... They just redeemed a large amount of saved candles and stuff if it's one singular use
Same. I see a lot of hacker. But no way to report if I cant light them up
That is true too. We can’t tell tho, which makes spotting hackers harder
Hackers with UGs tend to light players, I've seen too many 12 and 14 wedgers too often. same with Elder Manta and Krill cape
I thought they reset the candels are for trying to search who is the hackers?
I found a krill caped player before. They were afk so I couldn’t light them :/
hi! any idea where we can find the red crystal in the forest today?
I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here
Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first 
Thank you Skybot 
Enterance (near to the gate used for access to SCs is) and in the area used to access granny (where laid back is)
thank you! but for now dark plants won't burn sadly 😦
Wait till it starts again in 7 minutes :D
Hope for Krill mask and Eden crown Day 6
hello may i ask where the shards for today's daily?
Hello
just look for it yourselves oh my goddd
its at the forest entrance 
oh ok
Remember we are 100% getting some kind of f2p UG after final quest if you look carefully
@slender pike forest enterance (small shard), challenge shard is outside the crab tunnel where crab mask (
) is
The very same question was asked 5 chat above yours (skybot included). I do wish ppl will try to scroll up to try search the answer before asking. Or maybe a 'scroll up' emoji 
Skybot shush 
I'm proud of you for getting enough sneep snorp, @broken fractal
Why I can’t burn the black plants in the new season?
thanks for replying without being rude buddy
like really, this question is asked about 12 dozen times a day, and the answer only changes daily smh sorry for being rude I'm just tired of seeing this chat get clogged up with this question :| when it's already been answered
I've answered it twice, as people only stating one location gets monotonous when there is more than one spot to acces
Hello
dude... i cleared the darkness of the fallen crystals at the entrance of the forest and in the stream but my mission of the season (the first one) didn't come to an end
It is buggy, perhaps wait for tomorrow.. or the next beta build
Yea I haven't gotten anything from it today and I've done it twice, its not even glowing red like the usual shards. Rather just sort of plain black, unless its supposed to be that way.
Oh, I understand. Another question: is it normal for other players not to appear when I'm clearing the darkness of the crystals?
I haven’t had anyone clearing up with me randomly so far.. but some seem to take friends along
I only had one person help me earlier but like the darkness poofed as we started and the thing ended when we started so that was kinda cool
Where are the shards today
Here is the shards
What about the seasonal one / sorry i mean the first quest
Haven't met other player when I'm clearing the shard since the season start
I don't understand the question
In front of the first gate also known as shards place
BETA PLEASE GIVE ME THE SHARDS SO I CAN COMPLETE THE QUEST 
First mission shard is outside the crab tunnel where season gratitude spirit was there
Hmmm do u mean the isle of dawn cuz i didn't find any also i c people finishing the first quest by breaking the one in daylight and i did that but the quest didn't finish
Shards comes out every 30minit.
Yes I know, they just never came when the event time began, issa bug 
Today is in forest. You can see a stone stuck on the top of every gate daily.
I thought we're free to discuss anything beta sky related here. Why are people getting mad about other's asking the same question?. If you don't want to help answering them just ignored it. It honestly make me and I believe others hesitant to ask. We kindly ask in the right place where people discuss beta stuff, if you don't like it ignore it. Don't get mad
Guys does beta invites take long to be open again? 
Does any know how to complete the first season quest
I had to keep doing the same shards 3 times until i get the quest done .good luck
Beta testers are notorious for not reading though, if they did read they'd see the answer before even needing to ask the question most of the time 
I think u need go and burn the darkness in the ex realms also careful of crabs they kill u
Maybe because same question again and again. Or if you need help we can find in #beta-looking-for-group.
Yesterday i just answer a question, and right after my message is same question i just answered , not too long to scroll up
So where am I supposed to go
I saw how people do the quest on YouTube, maybe it will be easier to understand if you watch the video
For example u can find one in the prairie but the cons unlockable places only u can watch yt too
Edit:hard to explain idk what the ex realm names are in the places
Okay so I just got the dark music sheet....it is not what i expected. It is a really beautiful song. Anyone else surprise by the dark song.
I started on the light side first
please feel free to play it and share it in #beta-screenshots-videos for us to hear 
Hehe I can't. I have android, you can't record on android, you can only take photos.
yes i fully agree!! i got yesterday or so and it’s beautiful
I’ve seen plenty but I came to the same place only to saw the normal scene without rocks or dark plants
WHA- TGC NEED TO FIX THAT 
Uh… Wasteland doesn’t have the Eden Explosion?
I mean the one that explode every 30 minutes
Thats odd, I have the record icon on mine but I've never tried it before. Does it just not work???
Today is Forest. One at entrance, one is at the tunnel
If you try to re-enter the location it may appear, I had to do that earlier 3/4 times before the shard appeared but by then it dissolved itself so now I have to wait for the next event start 
I think it has to do with android systems, not the game. Android devices have never been able to record stuff. So many devices are considered android.
The places change daily. Today at forest
I mean the scene where Eden Erupts every 30 minutes, not the Daily Shards