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dont really mind lesser items or props if they can put out more interactive activities like minigames/show/sidequests
What kind of mini games do you think would fit DoR?
Kissing the homies without socks on minigame
also if i do have to choose , this baby looks gorgeous #beta-screenshots-videos message
minigames such as rainbow racing , helping spirits find things to set up a rainbow party, hmm idk tbh , im just spitting out things that could work 😂
But for real, what would you feel would add to DoR to make it more on even ground with it's neighboring events?
Riding on a krill that has rainbow colored eyes and a rainbow trail high key
maybe one where the skykid has to paint a greyed-out rainbow 
Uhh riding unicorns? 
It wouldn’t make sense lore wise but friendly gay krill >
I like that! That kinda gives me an idea where we could "paint" an area by choosing a color for each item/object in it
i think it was mentioning above a rainbow painting event, maybe have a large canvas for people to doodle on ? of course this has to be moderated thoroughly like how genshin moderates their serenity pot feature.
Yessss we can draw the little gay people in our phones
To be totally honest, unsure if that's a totally good idea... 
What are your opinions on the rainbow pants design?
I personally quite like it, a bit underwhelming (as it’s basically cargo pants) but overall a nice vibe
oooh, like enchantment!
enchantment spirits need help returning color to a rainbow stage/shop/area or something like that
I could see things going wrong quickly if those doodles aren't being checked by mods lmao
They give me "Music Festival" vibes and I'm all for that aesthetic. I'm in love with the bracelet and unsure why
usually checks are done by machine learning, not manual inspection unless mass reported
Yeah the bracelet is a nice touch hahah
I’d love them if they weren’t an expensive reskin
If they were going to charity I wouldn’t complain about the price. They might as well add some regular candles to it as well if they are going to keep it as 10 dollars
Still buying them regardless because I like them better than the og pants
YES, Enchantment!! I don't know why I want to see them host DoR so bad, but I have such a strong feeling they'd be perfect!

They already linked with color lights, Enchantment with rainbow isn't farfetched/would make sense 
i kinda like them! it reminds of something a kid would wear to express themselves, which is on par with skykids. i understand why some folks don’t like it because of the jellyfish pant similarities
Hi guys! Did you find the anniversary guitar?
No 
is pant grammatically correct? pants? pant (singular)
someone with only half of a pair of pants, a pant
singular is still pants
The word pant reminds me of the Simpson meme
eat pant
eat pant 😌
What're they wearing, just a singular pant leg? 
that’s what i pictured XD, i’m keeping it as pant then for the funsies
Sorry, the ancestor who changed the rainbow day items is blank
Bug
What pant do you wanna see the most in game? For me I'd love a super casual single color Tee with some baggy sweatpant
✨ Casual chill pant ✨
Thank you for your answers. I hope the TGC team can repair it as soon as possible
I’d love to see ao dai or hanfu inspired outfits
Traditional clothing is always cool to see in games when designed correctly
it would be interesting to see a decorated jumpsuit with fancy shoes or something with hand stitch designs like second-hand clothing from the spirits. something adventurous would also look pretty cute like link’s generic outfit for reference.
trying to keep the ideas vague and non-cultural to see if this can whip some ideas for others 
Omg a link inspired outfit 
Speaking of secondhand clothing from spirits, I'd absolutely LOVE to be able to get some outfits based on the pant-less spirits in sky.
It'd make spirits cosplay MUCH easier
we should knock on nintendo’s door and tell them “link hair isn’t enough to satisfy our link needs”
Triforce Prop
Triforce Prop
Triforce Prop that plays the 'Link to the Past' intro theme 👀
Can I just say that the frantic stagehand’s outfit is so lovely.
it’s nice to see a longer dress added to the game. As a man who wears dresses, just yes.
ALSO WHAT IF GOLD TRIFORCE HAIR ACCESSORY
are we a bit too off topic 
Triforce necklace when
omg a zelda-inspired outfit would be pretty!
speaking of dresses, i always think about how long dresses in sky will wrinkle and flop around easily as your skykid flies
The stagehand’s dress is a bit stiff so it kinda avoided that problem xD
Perhaps a thick cloth dress like Stagehand's outfit could work, instead of something more gossamer.
I mean, the sword suit from Prince is pretty close to a link outfit?
yeah that’s true, thick cloth dresses
or the dress can defy the laws of physics because skykids are always ready for picture day, the dresses can endure the hottest temperatures and the sharpest red diamonds
ew picture day
When I was in school I just straight up didn’t go to take my picture for the last three years of high school xD
Now I'm imagining a dress cape that just looks like one of those big royal dresses that allow you to fly by moving it like a jellyfish 
just add a parasol and now you’re as fancy as princess peach
...Why not just add in Princess Peach cosmetics since we already have a Mario pipe?
:3
Lightseekers sombrilla
Umbrella** sorry the Spanglish jumped out
This talk of collaborations with Nintendo makes me want a collaboration with Sony to get Journey cosmetics
Just imagine a rune voice! How amazing would that be??
omg, lightseeker-themed outfits. it would be cute to have small glowing orbs in an outfit
We need more glowing cosmetics in general. I wanna blind people with my light 
This is partially why I got the turtle cape
feel like next collab would be pixar related? seeing the recent investment
Rainbow pants cheaper yaaaay 
ahh yes, covering your screen with a glowing blob
Anyone using Huawei device for beta how can you update it. Trying to update Sky Beta but it won’t go directly to AppGallery of Huaweu
Exactly, what else to do when you're bored in sky?
just go back to 2019 sky and use the glow spell x'dd
pretending to be winglight? how evil
ah yes i would love to be a walking winglight
Just use a glow spell
Trust me, I wish I knew about sky in 2019... 
Joined late 2020
I have glow spells from random spell nodes xD
i feel you , when sky early android in 2019 was regional locked 😢
not the vase shrinking. knew it was going to happen but still breakin my heart
New builds for Huawei devices are still under review, we are unsure when it will be approved for release. I know it's been several days but we have no additional information other than what was shared in #beta-announcements at this time. They are a new platform for us to work with and we're still trying to gauge how their review process will work in relation to other mobile platforms.
you could say the vase used a resize potion
i thought of a pun but that’s the best i can do
Thank you so much does this mean. I won’t be able to update the sky beta yet and wait for it to be released?
Wanted it to be bigger </3
correct, there is no beta update for huawei until it passes review. this means you may not see changes, content, bug fixes etc that fellow testers that are iOS or Android are until we receive that approval from Huawei.
Out of curiosity, since we've got the arch from the anybis mask could that be reworked into a rainbow halo
im just wondering to no one in particular
Wow! Due to the price change to the trousers. I might buy them when days of rainbow comes out in June
Am i lost or there is no beta bug report channel
Also, the beta bug reports channels are #beta-bugs-android and #beta-bugs-ios
since the flower spell causes crash im guessing it is temporarily removed?? because i cant find them
equipping mine in the closet shows nothing as well
Might be removed from the server side due to the crash, yeah
It's so teeny 🤏
Can’t report players (hackers) in game now, and can’t report this bug 
Could someone tell me where is the krill in office?? I only see it once

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
I feel disappointed I knew that TGC would keep the riskin pants and It wasn't temporary
They are saying they are disappointed that the rainbow pants that a lot say look like a jellyfish pant reskin was kept instead of changed to look more unique
But as far as them being permanent, aren't they still listed as WIP?
Don’t the pants have an icon?
The icon changed to be the pants so I'm not entirely sure that they'll change. I hope though.
Oh the pants have an icon now?
Oop I was sure it still said WIP on my wardrobe, I'll have to check again later - I definitely updated too because I got the flower pack 
Might be a bug. I can post the icon if you'd like.
I just watched nasty’s video and there is definitely an icon there now
Are the npcs still bugged?
They were when I was on earlier 
Thank you so much.
am I the only one will crashed when collecting the free spell at home?
its mentioned in #beta-known-issues that trying to collect the spell for the new double flower accessory causes a crash
ouu, okay
So the rainbow event got the least love from the artists, we got a different color pant of an existing pair, and also a charity flower that’s exactly like the one last year only there’s two of them
The earring is the most unique item and it looks dope… although according to some it’s not on the “gay” ear 
Were the lead artists on a vacation after working hard for Performance
will the guitar be permanent?
in the patch notes I read, it is separated from the non-time limited list
I just downloaded Bandori back and there's another Beta update, my poor phone storage 
im dumb, how do look at rainbow quests?
Does flower vase still jiggle? I can't get on to check atm.
Tgc : anniversary guitar is here!!
Me:
yay!!
Tgc: Ooops it has stagefright, nevermind
Me:

I have been waiting on pins and needles since it was announced. I want an acoustic guitar of my own so bad. It keeps getting delayed 
Same my friend, same
Aniversary gituar is still not available ?
Where's da anniversary guitar?
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
it's got stage fright just like the 5th quest before and now it's hiding 
Visit the #beta-known-issues yall
Ok. So now it play hide and seek with us? Next season must be hide and seek season as well :')
Season of Hide n’ cry
i was gonna say season of fun but that seems more accurate
Season of Copy another season

Can someone please tell me where is the music shop? I am totally lost.

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
the build takes so long to download gosh
Yoo.. when is the anniversary performance gonna happen? I just saw a video on instagram about the performance 😂 it's cute omg 😂 please tell me when it's gonna happen? 😂
You can rewatch the 4th cutscene to show you the way :D
It Will be in the next build,at the moment the anniv guitar is still missing.Visit the #beta-known-issues if you talk about performance on office it Will be available every hour starting from 00
I'm gonna say it: rainbow flower eyepatch
Uh.. i mean the spirits is doing a performance on stage. Not anniversary guitar
So every 2 hour? Is it before or after geyser/grandma?
It start every hour
starting from xx:00
Every 1 hour? Imma go check it now
Yap,example it start at 00:00,and then 01:00,02:00,03:00 and so on..
Review the 4th quest for the season. It points you towards the shop. Otherwise watch a youtube video about it.
Thank you so much
how do i appreciate the rainbows today?
Find them and stand in the stone circle for 60 seconds.
oooohhh geez ok thank you!
Do note, that there are also quests where you're just required to find the rainbow for it to complete.
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
Days of R||ecycling||💀
do we crash when clicking IAP gift node
is it just me or can i not buy the new rainbow flower accessory?
It's in the iap shop

But don’t take double flower spells from boat it crashes
Hello~ Will the invisible cape ever see the light of the day in live? 
We don't know, it totally depends on devs
sky: bugs of the light
Is the rainbow spirit still blank for everyone else after the update?
Yes
i give up
I think it's nice they lowered the costs of the gay pants but geez I was hoping for a.. adjusted model in the update
If they sold a belt accessory that can be used on any pants it would've made more sense💀
Right?? I would have loved that so much 😭
I cant see the annuversary guitar?
It's not available yet
#beta-known-issues
What is days of rainbows?
days of rainbow is whereby Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month (LGBT Pride Month) is celebrated annually in June to honor the 1969 Stonewall riots, and works to achieve equal justice and equal opportunity for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and questioning (LGBTQ) Americans.
the q also stands for queer! 
Ah... It's about that ehh. Thanks for the answer
I don’t think it was ever called Days of Pride in Sky. 
I recalled someone said it was that in before days of rainbow, i can remove it as well to remove controversy
whats the source for that? :O
100% of the NET proceeds (the money we receive after fees from Apple and Google) from the Rainbow Flower will go to** charities supporting diversity, equality and global unity.** taken from https://www.thatskygame.com/news/launch-update-days-of-rainbow
I'm sorry if I annoy, but do you know when to get an email? For huawai players who tried to join into beta?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
oh, i meant on the subject of the name ever being days of pride before it was changed to days of rainbow
that why i removed it?
xD i just thought you had a source for that, nw~
Can you tell me in which store is anniversary guitar ?
nowhere right now, its still bugged ^^"
Completely unknown, by the way
hi im new and im not sure on how to buy the adventure pass bc everytime i click purchase it only shows "more information" but i cant click anywhere to buy it
Hi, may I ask you about the qualifications for Huawei's test server application on April 15, have you passed it now?
you have to complete valley first, after it’s supposed that it’ll let you get it
Am i the only one who doesn’t know how to get into the test app?how can i apply it??
everything you need to know is at #beta-faq. if you still need some clarifications, you can ask here again
Thank you
Any one know where to buy the rainbow hat \˚ㄥ˚\
The rainbow stuff is bugged right now, you cannot get them 

You may see some people who have these items, because they were available for a grand total of one day before they broke with the next update
makes me wonder how they had the hat while the rainbow spirit still be blank
Hello
thank you for your answers 
Where do i find the anniversary guitar

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
It seems like HUAWEI Update build is still in review.
#beta-known-issues , the guitar is still not in game
Will days of rainbow and anniversary start on live in July?
anniversary starts on july and DoR should start on june
One question: Is DoR 2021 Flower accessory available or nah? Cuz my friend is asking if its available
so far nope
It has only been in spells at the moment.
Lemme guess, was it been like DoH flower never return. Like that? React
if Im right
We don't know what's going on in the heads of staff, I can't answer that
(the presumption is yes though, I'm just not 100% on that)
Hey everyone! I can’t find the music shop…in which realm is it?
It has an entrance in Village of Dreams and back entrance in the Performance area
You may spot a new building if you run past the skating rink with the statue!
In The village theater and Village of dreams in Valley
You should do the main quests for the season and it will tell you.
Where is the anniversary guitar?
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
Read #beta-known-issues
I saw it a little late. I am sad.
Literally everything i wait for this build
Guys, hello everyone, is anyone aware of the beta version? When number will the new set be approximately? I really need to, I really want to

we just got 0.17.5 (189623) update yesterday
Im sorry but i keep seeing the icon of double flowers hair accessories as a fish head with open mouth 😭
Where is the anniversary guitar
I ate it 
Please see #beta-known-issues
my friend in DM weeping at me rn about this
Is the IOS bug report now under maintenance? #beta-report-ios
No, Sagomay said to Alexdolly that Skybot haven’t got enough peas
Skybot rn: I won’t open the Beta Bug Report channels until you gave me more peas
Beta bug report is under maintenance rn
Btw any bug report channel will work for any report. The report will go in the right channel if you fill it correctly
Wooooooooooo!!! Thank you!!!
i checked but it wasnt there :/
It seems HUAWEI update build is still in review, we will have to wait for it :\
There used to be a lot of question marks around the rooftop stage of the office only once, and when I went up to the stage, it became very small ... What was that?
Is there any way to still buy the rainbow tassel? I was about to purchase it but when I visited the guide at home, the guide's tree was completely blank and empty
could anyone explain what happened? please ping me if so 
The birthday performance.. When is it?
In 6 minutes should be? Unless it was changed, happens every hour
no need to double post also 
The guides are currently bugged, so maybe they'll fix it in a future update.
I too didn't get to buy the tassel or the cape 
aw darn I see, thanks for the info 
My friend just told me she want the 1 Rainbow Flower to come.
She want to buy both the 1 flower and 2 flower.
I told her it’s beta and there are no plans for it but she refuses to believe it
It may return it may not
Send her a screenshot of Sagomay saying that 
<#beta-discussion message> Here's Sagomay's reply to someone's question about that, for proof to show your friend
Somehow I think 2flowers is the replacement for 1flower coz they’re similar 🤔maybe TGC want to keep the charity item special so ppl hv motivation to buy the pack(donate)?just a thought 💭
Just talked to my friend… they said something interesting… tho I can’t say it since I have some questions I wanna ask the devs about. It’s kinda confuse me and concerned me a little
I wanted to buy the pack but it feels so unfair that its not coming back this year since there’s no real reason for it NOT to
It makes me think of Flight's cosmetics, the headpieces where you have one feather on one side, and another one with two on either side.
Granted, you use IGC to get them and they're not IAP, but if we can have that, why can't we have last year's IAP pack and this year's together?
How do we get into the music room?
You have to complete the fourth quest, and I think the cutscene should show you where to go. If not, it's covered by a tarp somewhere on the wall, where it should open up if you get near it
Thanks! I finished all the quests but I’m looking everywhere haha
I think I accidentally skipped the cut scene tho
I mean, the cutscene in of the updates before showed the back door to the music shop, the one with the grate? If you find that and go left, hopefully you should see the entrance to the music shop
I’ll go look now
thanks
just wanna ask smth does it still work to get the penguin suit in beta?
Guys know any way we can mute others’ instrument playing sound in the premium candle shop?
I want to only hear my performance but the sound setting covers everyone in the same map
I would like to see a differently type of charity IAP tho. Instead of another flower one
Oh shoot its even a wrong server sorry XD
is days of rainbow return still not done or is just plain broken?
id usually for a server split (bad wifi) but that would be a good feature 
Excuse me? Beta is about bugs 
Where is the shop with the anniversary instruments? I've searched basically everywhere in ||office||
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
There is not a way but this has been discussed that tgc should make a feature where you could only hear your instrument. I suggested a headphone toggle option in settings that allows you to wear noise canceling headphones and let's you only hear what you play. They go away once the instrument is put up. Asking for something similar in #beta-feedback would be a good idea!! Music griefing sucks and some do it on purpose..
I ate it 
Me who sometimes does it on purpose 🚪🚶♀️
Why would you do that.
it's rude and kind of tiresome to people who want to test the instruments in earnest...
Boredom 
Though I don’t do it at as much as I used to. Since I keep my music volume at zero
It’s just a goof 
I guess, but it just gets tiresome when so many people already do it all the time since music shop came out. I usually feel like I have to start over if the person doing it makes me mess up too much. I hope that tgc will let us buy igc spells of instruments since music griefing seems to be an issue. That way people who want to practice or test out an instrument seriously can do it in a quiet environment.
Are we supposed to be able to buy an unlimited amount of trail spells at the boat shop? I mean, normally we buy one and have to wait for the next day or not?
it's pretty cool though
Oops yeah it has a limit. Just needed to buy one more 
It's not supposed to be unlimited. There is a limit, but you can buy a ton of randomized spells. I've had people think I was hacking ig bc they didn't realize.
Ngl i hate how hard trails still are to acess 
Why cant we buy the color we want 
I’m all for a setting where you can only hear your own music. sometimes I wanna record myself playing something but I’ll server merge into a space where I can hear someone else’s music and it ruins my recording :( not to mention people who are rude and interrupt for fun. the only way I can avoid this is by using my asteroid jacket and going to space 💀
I've been maxing out the random trail spells every single day bc I still have a ton of candles from the abyss glitch (15k still) and haven't Gotten ONE rainbow trail spell from it 
Gotta say trails is one of the best features but with an poor execution imo, i guess the devs dont want us to have these all the time. The very limited supply makes me never want to use the ones i have
I wish they were permanent
Hey guys I heard that the anniversary guitar has been changed is that true?
I saw the spoiler too and im gonna be rly upset if its true :(
In beta nothing is spoiler
Just like the guitar we got? The blue electric guitar 🥲
The guitar was not even shown yet. Thats hacked content 
Aww! Good news! I love that white one… I don’t want to change it

The anniversary guitar haven't even made its first appearance legally (which is subject to change anyway)
Don't rely on social media attention hunting contents, Skykids 
Thanks for the warning! I was not in the beta, I heard about it through my friends
For rainbow pants, do you guys prefer 15$ but change the style OR 10$ with this style?
Im gonna buy it, but if it is really looks like this I will not wear it anyway
as personal collection XD. Probably same for me. Perhaps
i like it as it is now with its price. it puts it in the same category with the iap feast cape.
i don't have money to buy iaps and neither do i like jelly whisperer's pants so
True 🤣 cuz I wore the sanctuary one for whole season, I’m not fascinated with it any more
Would be funny if they took the sanctuary white suit and just paint it rainbow for the event lmao
The did the exactly the same with Christmas cape
I mean, I pretty much love cargo pants so I'm not too salty about it
. But either way it still feels like a rip-off
Anyway, just a personal idea, is that possible we can get a violin in the future 🤔
I would have bought the rainbow pants even at higher price (and yet I'm not a cargo lover and have the cargo pants.) Even tho it's similar, feels very different.
- It's a charity item. Charity is never a rip off, charity item price never represents the value.
Tbh i wish the straps would just be an accessory instead of it being part of the pants 
Tgc: we aren't out of ideas
Also tgc:
I haven't seen anything to do with Days of Rainbow ingame as of yet, is this normal or am I missing something?
Edit: Reinstalled the Beta app and it got stuck on the tgc logo screen. After restarting my phone, everything works fine and I can access the new features!
I think Sagomay said that the pants arent for charity tho 
I might be mistaken on that
you’re right, the trousers aren’t for charity
the days of rainbow items were previously available with the guides a few builds ago but it seems like it’s currently bugged rn 
The Rainbow items should be back properly in the next update!
Unless they get stage fright too
I'm honestly kinda disappointed to see the path Sky is taking...
Graphics? Used to be good, now it's only good if you are rich enough to pay for one of the newest iPhone models, or a Switch
Now the clouds are shaking all the time (which is a trigger for motion sickness, at least for me)
Anti aliasing is disabled making everything pixelated
Textures are really low
And tgc seems to not care about it since this has been in the game for months now in thousands of devices, even the high-end or top tier phones...
The players are reporting it, i know, but tgc hasn't spoken a word about it if i'm not mistaken
And it seems like it's getting even worse
Don't get me wrong. I love Sky, and that's why i'm disappointed, because i want to be able to experience Sky like i used to in the past, but now i know that for that to be possible, i need to be able to afford one of the newest iPhone models, which i can't.
Already sent it to #beta-feedback
Since it seemed to get worse with this update
That doesn't sound like a beta topic.
Oh
It might be just me, but it just seemed like it xD
It's always going back and forth in beta because of android fragmentation. (Google it before assuming the worst, android fragmentation in game development is a real challenge)
Tbh hats off before TGC that Sky is still supporting an overly outdated android 8, whereas the current version is 12
As far as this beta goes, it's beyond my own capabilities to give updates on the progress of all the thousands of bug reports we work on, so I do really hope that you'll keep sending bug reports if you find these problems persisting from build to build.
I'm not sure what device you play on; if it's Android, a major issue we constantly navigate is the thousands upon thousands of different Android configurations, and trying to create the best experience possible for tons of different devices (including, yeah, Android 8! It takes a LOT of engineering resources to make sure updates include that even as we improve and expand features).
Yeah, i'm on Android 11, ik it's hard because there's a lot of different devices to optimize, but it's on a lot of devices, even high end ones
(This latter above is android fragmentation, which is good for one, bad for another and android manufacturers are seriously overtweaking their droids to make a "better user experience" which drawbacks kick in when you try to play a demanding game)
How about an option to turn anti aliasing on and off? I think we could use more graphic options
Now here comes the unsolvable question to decide: enable more antialiasing which brings older or buggier (kernel, OS) devices to their knees or loose compatibility for hundreds of old devices.
We do everything we feasibly can to give the best graphic experience possible to as many compatible devices possible, whether high end or low end (I still play Sky sometimes on my iPhone 6, for example, especially when I need a handwarmer but I digress). We can't promise it will be exactly the same across every device, but we do try to fix what we can when it isn't working properly—but of course, some bugs are harder, or much harder, to fix than others
I'm not an engineer so I couldn't really say, but I can certainly pass along that feedback!
Unfortunately this also can backlash on (guess who) the devs because antialiasing may not cause crash for some devices here, may crash them there but not all of them, at another place it would crash another potion of them
and so on
iPhone 6 handwarmer gang rise up 😔
Thanks! I really hope to be able to admire the clouds landscapes again in the future
Does it helps if i tell you, or send (another) bug report with some device infos i got with this issue?
(I asked some people for it and found lots of devices with it)
Actually i got an iphone SE a few months before i started playing sky (my old phone had rlly poor battery capacity n would def not handle sky well) and alas i missed dreams and maybe prophecy as such 😔
This is the question that follows us with every update. There is no answer that can make 100% of players happy—or heck, that could make 100% of TGC devs happy either 🙃
A perfect example are sanctuary crashes, which didn't crash most of the phones but a lot of old or (let's say) overtweaked ones crashed even with the same aliasing settings. Imagine the chaos with switchable aliasing.
It's most helpful if folks are able to send their own bug reports, but if that isn't possible, the extra device info is still helpful!
Yeah, i never got any of those crashing issues, black screen, etc.
But i've been having this graphics one for months now xD
I'm definitely gonna report that later again, thanks!
The biggest step back in image quality was said to be around sanctuary season. This was not intentional but only this way was possible to expand compatibility to a wider range of middle-end phones (not only high end ones). Fortunately we don't hear about many crashes in these builds but the price of it is less stellar graphics, which helps to keep big and grow the global family of Sky players.
My phone is kinda low end, but even so,it used to handle sky really well before these issues
I hope to be able to play like before someday, so if needed i'll keep sending feedback and 🐛 reports on that!
I definitely want Sky to get better, so i'll try to help with what i can do, which is reporting and sending feedback 
As per me I keep my old droid here beside me, let the newer droid go and I bought a 2-year old iPhone to fully enjoy the beauty of Sky 
wait, so supposedly, jester pants weren't planned at all and was only created due to feedback? or did i understood that differently? 
Ash this was me submitting beta feedback XD - Candle cake where? *why is it so dark here 👀
*proceeds submitting actual feedback XD
@wary star heyo!
wishlist channel is read, though when a season or event (that I'm working on) is active in beta I'll be giving the feedback channels a bit higher priority personally since testing phase is so important. BUT I'll usually go through the wishlist channels, especially when I'm starting concepts for a season, and check out some popular requests, wishes, etc. If its something I can do, fits within the Sky world, or I see an opportunity, I'll usually attempt to make it happen! I know other devs will poke through as well 👀
indeed! lemme find the quote one sec 
Just to elaborate on this point a bit, these pants were added specifically because of the feedback you all provided about wanting to "complete" the storyteller's outfit, so thank you for what you do for us 
[Jump to message](#beta-season-test-chat message)
Those are the best pants this season, too! Even took off my Flight pants for a while to wear them
Even on the switch I have graphics issues and lots of framerate drops when I open any menu
and the fact that the pants look so good too
wow
Yeah it was a great moment of awesome feedback and then our awesome 3d artist trev having some time to make the jester pants into 3d reality 
Trev did a great job with those! They're so fun
I cant believe the jester pants were made so FAST
honestly same 
oh, makes sense! i'm not really the best with social interaction, especially with people who i see as like.. not sure what the word is, but i guess it'd be like. higher up??? i'm not sure what to say 
thank you, ash!!! 
the performance spirits went through like 32432534 iterations so i was enjoying the quick turnaround that jester pants had (though thankfully we already had a season colorscheme/theme/style at the time to make the pants fit into
)
Is there any plans to add more graphics options in the future?
social anxiety really loves specifically me guys
I hope u guys release a concept art devlog like how u guys did with Flight! I’d love to see the 34 million iterations
you're all good!
I appreciate the question-sometimes it may seem a little mysterious how that all works and also i imagine can feel like shouting into a void haha. BUT the void hears you 
Yes it does feel like shouting whispering in a void 🥺
It's nice to hear the void shouting back for a sec
Not ignoring you-but unfortunately I'm not involved in that stuff (i just draw the pictures
)
If possible when a community dev is around, or during a livestream that may be a good opportunity too to ask your question!
i draw pictures too!!!! not very good ones though but i'm gettin there
@spark lance usually when a dev is here and actively chatting you're free to ask them questions
can we ask Ash questions here?? 
can we ash questions? 
And hopefully that helps de-mystify the feedback process a little bit! and explains why/sagomay are always like metaphorically at y'alls windows begging you to submit to feedback channels 
Next time I will make sure to ask on a live stream 
also i hope so too! and for abyss as well...we'll see what the community team has in store 
there are a couple of performance concepts in particular id like to show heh
Is the free flower spell crashing anyone else’s game?
considering how breathtaking performance is, I’d absolutely love to see them!
this was what I was gonna ask 
my mind reading lessons are paying off
Performance concept art tour when?
The other day I got the chance to get a second device to play sky and I really got surprised when that Tablet was able to handle sky so smoothly and now I'm using that device to play beta too and see if I experience some issues with the new stuff TGC is bringing to the game
when is "season of whatever the devs want" coming
Isn't that technically every season?
I hope we receive another concept art blogpost, we didn’t get one for Abyss so I was a bit bummed out
What's the device name of your tablet?
Galaxy Tap S5e
no like literally anything. like they can just have a crazy idea and just add it
I've been experiencing a lot of problems with the illumination of the game some light effects seems buggy and show weird colors
Thanks! I'm looking for a new device :)
The only thing I find weird is there's not the option I used on my old iPad I don't know the word but that cut some of the content on the screen and really helped with the performance
this might be a dumb question but will the beta always be full?
Yeah sadly but beta being full means something really good a lot of people is helping to make the game better :D
tyy
hi! is there any other way to report bugs? i keep having to compress attachments and modifying them because discord won't allow files over 8 MB unless you have nitro. is there anywhere else to report bugs?
You can send the image/video attachments to the beta-screenshots-and-vids channel and add a link to them in your bug report 
you still cant send them because of the MB limit, which was this person's problem! but maybe you can up them on youtube or something and send a link that way?
You can send it into #beta-screenshots-videos
Then copy the link video URL and send it to skybot on the report!
guys the issue is that discord wont let you upload files that big, regardless of if its on the server or not
skycord has an upload limit of 100mb due to server boosts afaik
does it? i didnt know about that
if so then my bad
i know how to share it, didnt know you can upload big files here 
It works with links, if you send videos under 100mb in #beta-screenshots-videos, you can get the video link by clicking on the video, then clicking on the share button, then clicking on copy link, then you can send the link instead
Omg i only realised now the amount of "then" i used on this message 
huh thanks! i didn't know you could send bigger files here. i just wish discord didn't lock that behind a nitro boost paywall, it would benefit a lot of people just to have it be a permanent free feature. i'll try it that way next time :-)

If there isnt already, id love a Sky concept artbook with the regular artwork of the realms and with ideas of seasons from the present and past :]
Is normal that when I switch my graphics settings to the max I don't see a single difference between max and Lowest graphics settings?
season where the devs add back everything people didn't like
season where the devs add back everything. every single thing. even things from light awaits. season of break everyones devices.
season where the devs bring back the turtle
you know which one (rip)
We got big turtle though 🤲
Has DOR been released for beta yet? :0
Yes, but its bugged in this build
Is DOR Days of Rainbow? If so, yes. I'd recommend reading #beta-announcements to know what's currently happening in there
So excited :D
Where is the rainbow in hermit valley? Anyone have a guide?
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
I unfortunately don't know but you can try asking in #beta-looking-for-group for someone to guide you 
Noise noice cancelling materials... hate it when I suddenly remember keywords that I forgot to mention in feedbacks 
Hello I just cried from the anniversary event, I got very emotional
@median parrot check #beta-announcements it says that it’s going for charity!
Now I’m just gonna dip
thank you beta testers for testing 
Anyone else can’t buy the beanie iap?
Anyone else just kinda sad abt days rainbow 
#beta-known-issues clicking the shopping cart on friend tree crashes game
did they bring back the eden skip?

The one where you get to pnr? It's never been gone. You can get by the barrier on the side.
Anybody else unable to see or purchase from the one rainbow spirit’s tree? I can’t get the rainbow cape 
yea cause i just did it and was curious
Sad? I’m in love with the pants
No update? 
Patience is needed
I'm sad because they're not really super different from jelly whisperer pants, they aren't a charity item, and the charity item is kind of a copy paste atm of the old one. Also no new igc items at all. There have been plenty of items people have suggested along with reasons as to why the reasoning tgc gave for not adding an igc is kind of.... Dumb. They said it was because they wanted people to catch up and due to overwhelming feedback that it was too expensive. Days of feast costs a new moth 280 candles and 35 hearts... The feast table is 150 candles and rainbow cape 175, but they never went no igc items in feast. In fact feast HAS really cheap items added like the music sheet (10 c) , pillow (10c), and scarf(50c).
They could have added a cheap igc item so people who got rainbow cape and tassel last year can get a new item. And for future moths to be able to have more variety of smaller items to get. I was just really looking forward to this, but now I feel that even if I get anything from rainbow it'll feel tinged with bitterness from dealing with all this and desperately trying to get a new igc item, so people from last year will have a way to participate that doesn't only give options involving them spending money.
I'm just really disappointed with how this was handled. The charity item doesn't really make me feel compelled to get it since it's like last year's and the one item I would have got for charity is a non charity iap (which I strongly dislike a non charity iap on this event). Idk. I'm just sad so far. Especially with reasoning tgc has given. That's just my opinion though. I hope things change. I'm just sad.
I also cannot get the rainbow cape! It was there the first day- I didn’t have enough candles…then it went away
Yeah, I know that
I really just wanna get my hands on the anniversary guitar XD
Can't wait to see what it is
Whats a anniversary guitar
It's a new instrument that keeps getting delayed because it keeps bugging out of the game. Tgc said it'll be here next update but who knows since past two said it would but hasn't. 
hi hi, I have a question. I couldn't find the ocarina at the music shop, is it a bug or no?
Maybe we can't use it for... Reasons? It is part of a pack that includes another company's IP.
Me too. It seems like a bug.
Wait, the pants are not for charity????
That doesn't makes sense for me
The beanie isn't for charity, either. Never was
Unpopular opinion but…
Tbh DoN was a charity event… so if DoR was also a charity event… then where does that get TGC? It’s their game and I think they should profit off it. If they want to donate the proceeds to charity, then that’s their decision.
Personally, I’m happy knowing my money is going toward charity, but I’m also happy if it’s going to the company that created my favorite game. 
They do make it so they get 50% of the proceeds from charity iaps go to themselves and other 50% to charity after the following year of their first release. I just wish the charity item was more compelling so more people would get it. The pants feel most compelling and I think they still need to change since they feel too similar to jelly pants. We don't need yet another rainbow flower.
I want a lot of rainbow charity items and not lots of iaps going to tgc specifically for this event because I'm lgbt and want as much support as we can get for the lgbt charities. They have so many iaps that are non charity for other events... I think DoN and DoR iaps should all be charity and they can get money off of them once they go 50/50 after the following year.
Yeah like, for this days of nature id much rather have an awesome and beautiful turtle cape that FINALLY brings us more green… and the shoulder turtle is so underwhelming. Like i get its for charity but if i wanted to donate to the charity i’d just do it directly…
I feel you on the lack of green I really struggled to put together a look for St Paddy’s 
I really think TGC would be able to generate more revenue for the charities if they put the bigger items as the charity items instead of the lil accessories
Bc tbh people are probably going to buy those more. So if you want to help the cause it seems counterintuitive to put up the less desirable item at best, and actually kind of, erm, insidious at the very worst.
I am continuing to be sad the more I think of it.
I am going to bow out for tonight.
Is Days of Rainbow based on pride month? I thought with the event taking place in June it couldn’t be a coincidence. 
I dont think anyone at tgc is pure evil or anything but it also does strike me as a little bit greedy,,, i also don’t fully have a grasp on what their expenses for Sky altogether look like though, so I wouldn’t know if they HAVE to do this to keep themselves steady
As far as this goes, yeah! We have like… 2 seasonal capes total that are green?? And 2 capes from events. I’d say even Skykids who’ve been playing for a while definitely don’t have that much to work with in that particular color
In general we never got much green besides assembly and days of nature. I do hope we get another season with more green colored offerings, but I also can’t really think of any ideas off the top of my head
Right! Ik of the asteroid cape, the green cape from wasteland, the leafy cape from assembly, and the days of nature earth cape. Am I missing anything? 
I forgot about the asteroid cape!
i never really liked it anyways though so no wonder
It’s an acquired taste I’d say haha I like it with my fancy pants looks and I like its ability to transport friends and myself into space.
Fair enough. I never liked TLP that much to begin with though, so maybe thats why😭
Asteroid cape is hard to match with pants. That’s why we need more neutral color pants, gray, brown, and beige.
I kinda dislike neutral colored pants actually, i think we need more colorful ones! We already have all the base game pants + cargo and assembly pants, none of which im that big of a fan of (except hide n seek dress ily hide n seek dress
)
And neutral colors aren’t the only way to make stuff match either
Maybe it goes best with Rhythm pants?
I haven’t played around with it I usually just equip it with the tlp sword pants.
Edit: Oh but I didn’t mind it with cargo pants either that was pretty snazzy.
I feel like in terms of color wheel yellow colored stuff is kinda the only option
I mean i could be wrong but assuming the yellow is kinda the center of the range of colors the cape has you cant rlly use yellows complement bc thats purple and i, kind of question if thatd pair with the other 2 colors that well
Yk I’ve been wondering what to pair wisteria cape with and I think now ik 
I have seen some folks try sword pants with wisteria cape! Maybe that’ll be fun
everything matches when ya don't give a hoot x'dd
It matches the sword pants and the samurai pants
Nah, Rhythm pants are too purple. It matches the sword pants and that’s about it
What about cargo pants? 
the styles don't match
Matching it cargo pants and call it a day, I like how it looks 
May I know if it’s a known issue for iOS users to not be able to buy the flower accessory in the shop?
To what did they reduce the price of the trousers? Just double checking x)
$9.99USD as per #beta-announcements
which flower accessory? the Double Rainbow Pack should be available in shop. if you’re referring to the 2021 DoR flower accessory, then it isn’t planned to return this year
Ok so I went and tried it with Rhythm pants and it actually looks pretty nice! The styles aren’t too different and the purple and blue kinda compliments the orange part of the cape whereas the green isn’t too off-putting.
I match mine with cargo and one of the red gratitude maskz. It seems to look fine imo. I usually go with bull or leap when I use the asteroid cape. But I agree, more neutral colored pants would look nice 
So it’s a bull? I swear some of the gratitude masks are so confusing to figure out what they are 😭
Yeah, there's a bull, a crab, some sort of bird or lizzard...
Tbh I thought it was a dragon at first 
Days like right now i wish we didn't have to light people to report them. I've come across a hacker and they know better than to light when they've been caught.
that's why tea table is handy.
me who's from the inv wave right before nature ended
Man 🧍
I’m like very sure the wasteland spirits mask is meant to be based off the irl garuda masks that i think they have in the festivals that inspired the season???
The beak looks really similar to the pics ive seen
Yes, many of the masks are inspired by Bhutan.
@left heath
uhh
are the rainbow capes still available? the spirits are here i see, no items they sell
or did i miss it like days of blossom... a g a i n
They are bugged rn
Okay SO
The Days Of Rainbows NPCs have been bugged since the previous update
You may see some people have the items despite the NPCs not having them because they were available in the second update for one day
so technically i cannot get it now but i did not miss it
great news
i'm glad
beta's always been broken, i understand, i still have the 4000+ candle from that one previous bug in season of abyss and i dont care a thing
The tree only had previous year's cosmetics
You haven't missed it! It's just beta-brand broken right now 
i thought the available part, both rainbow and 3rd year anniversary have only things from this year?
if i remembered correctly that is
the tree AT THE TIME had last year's cosmetic(s?). We don't know what's been added to it since the third and fourth update since nobody can see it >:(
The second NPC had the IAPs of this year (and maybe one of last year? I don't remember cause I cANT SEE IT)
I'm talking about rainbow guide, when the cosmetics were available there were only the old ones in the constellation
Hey sorry if this has been Brought up already but is anyone else having the problem where there is no music at all jn any realms or seasonal areas? It's just quiet and I have the music bar on high 
Sounds like it's bug report time!
hello
just a quick reminder to turn off ping when you’re referencing an old message like this 
I'm is chinese
Dk if I'm supposed to ask this here but ||who's the text ts?||
I love sky♥️
We don't know the next TS. Our TS schedule is delayed (5 or so spirits behind Live)
beta doesn't have early access to traveling spirits, in fact we're very behind
But but in beta one youtuber posted and the spirit was ||twirling champion|| so I wanted to confirm
That was last time 
don't rely on youtube for info on traveling spirits
Damn I thought I was gonna save for his hair, thanks for letting me know both of you 
You should look at #news the day before the TS shows up. They post the silhouette of the TS, giving you the answer of who's showing up the next day
@rugged vessel Now there still no way to unbind your email account from sky,so your old email Will stay forever in sky
If ur connected with Gmail then there is a way to change accountd if that's what u want
This conversations an hour old but just for future reference (correct me if this changed recently) beta is currently way behind on ts. They’re on the live schedule but WEEKS behind
if the last ts was TC, then next one is probably dismiss guy
that's what I said 
DAMMIT I DIDNT LOOK UP ENOUGH
take my post as a reminder 
do i have to complete first the last quest before going to the music shop?
am i gonna miss smth if i visit the shop first- like cutscenes or anything
The fourth quest, not the last
No, you only need 4 quests for music shop. You aren't going to miss anything
Would you mind sharing the timing of the anniversary event performance that a group plays happy birthday please
Iirc it's every hour
Its every hour yes, but now 4:06 Pacific time, its the giant one appeared
Giant one?
The specific group of spirits playing happy birthday. Its different every hour. Theres a hungry performer that always rub his tummy
ty for answeringgg
i’ll be doing the quest tehee
Looks like the huawei beta invites were sent out. But still not able to update.
Make it make sense, please.
This is more directed at huawei and not tgc staff. I'm just..... slightly confused.
I received an email regarding beta update for my Huawei device. Updating my app now. ☺️
Wait but it isn't even bind that what I'm confused about, it is to my past beta but to this one I can't link it to the same one, it's a completely new one since I accidently restarted beta 
If you want to access a previous game account on a new device, you need to log in with the same credentials, sometimes also on the actual device.
you will have to redownload it again.
I don't know if mine redownloaded but the button said update 
hi chat quick question:
how did the first wave of beta invites for huawei applicants go? were invites sent in one day or scattered in multiple days? if it was sent different days at a time, is it possible the same would happen to the second wave?
The invites link will be sent to first wave too
Then the first wave will have to go by the links in email again, no idea will it happens again in next beta build.
(Next beta TS should be Saluting Protector if this schedule continues)
How proceed the invites for sky beta of Huawei?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
I am a huawei tester.This time when I update the beta ,I found I have a new account.I have my original ID and screenshot of it.How can I get it backsobsobsob
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
How can i find my original account
Did you try the sign in method?
I have screenshot and ID .But it hasn’t connected to my huawei account,this time when I logged in ,I got a new one
Best report... Maybe another huawei account user can advice too in a bit

I really want to get my orignal account back.Is it possible<<
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Heh I'm late but I just got to the music shop rn
Man every instrument is playable there
It would be an overkill if they added a scale changer on that area
I would probably stay there for life
I think I should put this in beta-feedback
Scale changer
I've never thought of that
Does anyone know where the anniversary guitar is?
Make it smaller
Hey guys
Jenova 
How to get the Anniversary guitar?
#beta-known-issues solves all your problems (or most)
You should know that wdym 😭
They’re not available yet i think

It'll be there eventually, we still got two whole months before the event goes Live
I'm just saying that it'll be in testing for a while!
FINALLY! I got an email to update Huawei beta app!!

May I ask when you received the email?
It looks like i got it about 3 hours ago but for some reason I didn't get the notification until a few minutes ago
@pine gyro do I understand correctly then that you're able to download a beta build?
OK, thank you. I haven't received any mail so far. It may be hopeless.
Do you mean that you want to play the same account you have on the live version of Sky? Or did you previously beta test on another device?
If you mean the live version of Sky, that account can't be brought to beta—these are two different games on two different apps. Everyone has to start with a new account when they begin testing.
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Yes! And the app also appears in AppGalery when I search for it
!jumbo 
finally man
@frosty trout hi~
@pine gyro Can I ask/confirm that it's build 189291 that you're seeing?
got the Huawei beta, hopefully it works this time 
It says it's 189623!
Thanks Lux!
i can't get in the beta like the last time 
So, some Huawei folks are seeing it in the app gallery, and others aren't? 
Not sure why I haven't seen someone say this before but
The rainbow flower from last year said "mitosis"
For anyone having issues with the Huawei beta, when you tap on the main screen and it brings you over to the app gallery; Try staying on the beta app page for a minute. Eventually the "open" button turned into "update" and it is now updating as it should be
after you accepted the invite in the email, you should see the beta app in huawei app gallery
i re-download Huawei beta and it seems like it doesn't let me in the game
it's like this. like the last time i got qualified as a beta tester.
whenever i try to open it, it just jumps out of the game 
well im still trying to get in the game rn but it keeps jumping out, if anyone have a advice pls tell me 
if it auto closes for you, please report bug
no,I mean when I was invited to the beta of huawei(from the questionnaire you gave out on 1th April and I received mail from huawei on 2nd April which informed me I was invited to join
beta and instructed me to download beta from huawei ,I log in the app which was download from the huawei application market)Application market on 4th April,and I registered an account.After that beta updated but was not available to huawei devices and if I click the"update" it showed the app is off the shelf.Till now it finally be available to download the latest version,I was so happy and updated it this evening,but this time I logged in,I found that it register a new account ,not the same one as I used before from 4th April to 8th April(this account is beta account stands on huawei account).In short I mean the account I registered on 4th April based on huawei account disappeared and I got a new one.Also I found someone have the same question as me ,when she updated the beta this time ,the original account lost too.She got a new one as I did.We
really want to use the account we used to use.But we don't know why this happened.I have the screenshot of the ID and I wonder
if I can get it back.
@broken elbow I think I understand now. So you were able to open the beta in early April and created a new beta account. Then you downloaded the update today, and it started over with a new account. Is this correct?
I'm not personally familiar with Huawei and this platform is really new for beta, so I don't have much insight, I'm afraid. And unfortunately we aren't able to offer the same kind of player support for beta accounts as live since it's only a test environment.
Did you link your previous account with any other ID/account option, like Facebook or Nintendo? If so, you should be able to use one of those to restore the previous account. Otherwise, definitely be sure to link this Huawei account to one of those to save its progress.
I’m new for huawei beta too,so I haven't thought about linking with
Facebook etc…I once thought it works the same as the huawei Channel service that if I
register the account based on huawei account it won't lost…Now I only have the personal ID(on the sceenshot I saw "Self service account recovery will be launched soon" is that means I have chance to restore with my ID it:pCry: :pCry: )
Self-service account recovery isn't available yet, unfortunately
will it be available in the future?I can wait I think.Because I really like that account.
HUAWEI platform is kind of weird
as it take 7 days to review? Well It's worth that beta build is up now 
We don't have a timeline for it. It looks like you'll probably need to use the new account for testing. 
Since beta is an experimental environment only for testing, it will have a lot of bugs that can cause issues like this (especially since Huawei is so new) This is why we try to encourage everyone who beta tests to not treat their beta account the same as a live account—better to use the energy for bug hunting and reports than, for example, trying to unlock as many items as possible.
okey,thank you for your time
Oh! Hello Sagomay 
can anyone give me the location of all Seasonal Candles ?
Not specific, but season candles should be within the social space + "first section" of an area in all places except Isle! I know it's vague but I hope it helps for you don't go wandering too far
Example: The first and second floor of Vault are the only ones with SC in Vault
(If I'm correct, SC locations sometimes change up per season?)
Seasonal candles in beta are in all realms Prairie -> Vault. You will find 8 of them in each one. Otherwise as above.
Is holding a note coming to other instruments? Other than electric guitar?
not sure but i hope there'll be plans to update other instruments to have this feature in the future... the flutes especially would benefit from having hold notes imo
Piano would make sense to have it, thats kinda a main feature on an actual piano
Here are the seasonal candle locations by Ali:
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/618891214527266846/947160814207512667
where do I get the boquet
It's at the top of the Performance quest giver's tree
okie, thanks!
When does the performance at office begins?
Every full hour.
Hello everyone
I've just started playing, can someone tell me what I should be aware of
I don't think this the right channel for a question like that
This is the beta section of the server. Look at the channels above to find ones for Live game.
I'm sorry I didn't see it clearly and asked, I'm really sorry to bother you
Doot doot
DOOT
DOOT YEE
why do they always come when i'm candle running in live 😭
doot time
This update includes testing for:
- Music Shop changes and updated sound effects
- Polish for 3rd Anniversary event
- Days of Rainbow polish
Istg my room is so quiet and the notif was SO loud 😭😭 i feel like everyone in the neighborhood could hear it JDJDJFJH
ios notif sfx
never again.
updoot? 👀
updoot.
Yeah!
They made things more expensive

omg
rip
lmao $30-
f- for w-what
oh my god i've seen-
Updaaate 👀
excuse me 20$ triumph instruments--- 
the pricessss, $20 for one instrument is waaaay too much imo
BUNDLES, TGC, BUNDLES!
20 dollar instruments...? 🙁
Damn :((
So happy...
Oh wow- 
yeah $20 for a reskin instrument is definitely not worth it. even $15 was too much imo
at least anniversary guitar is no longer limited, but 30$....... oh my god 

I thought 15$ was worth it, its the price of the AP + a little extra, the cost of a full 3 AP pack is.... questionable
Wait is was limited before?
WOULD PURCHASE THE IAP IN LIVE IF THEY WERE BUNDLES
30 for a guitar-
hoooooo boy 
At that point just wait for the ts to return 😭
hmm.... a little confused on the known issues. the S22 is experiencing the water glitches, its not a low end device?
just for adding a big bunch of candles i- :,]
where can you even buy the guitar
office iirc??
most likely
ah, i forgot the anniversary guitar is now literally performance guitar with extra stickers.
no point in buying then ig 
The guitar being 30 bucks is a little
also it's in office where cape npc is.
If it's an anniversary guitar yeah likely office
how many candles come with the guitar
I've checked there already, is it from a specific NPC?
welp my beta's updated, time to see for myself
can we please go back to the 15$ instruments I was really planning to get the handpan i swear +5$ changes a lot the price 
this guitar better come with office access💀 jesus..
iirc it’s been affecting a whole slew of devices - from low end to high end. I would assume they just wrote low end since bugs tend to be more frequent on those devices/sagomay hasn’t checked it out too deeply
Oh my god these prices 
Maybe they'll adjust prices before it releases? 
when the pants changed to 10$ we should have expected something like this though 
What is we talm bout
like. even if they did come w candles, you can easily get like 100+ candles in a week.
money
welpthis is it. time to pack our bags & hoppity hop out of here 💼 
monkey
it seems for every rainbow pants price decrease, we get charged 30$ more on other IAPs 
Make sure to leave a comment about the prices in #beta-feedback if you haven't yet.
Not only in this channel.
We complain about the prices of rainbow pants and get punished by everything else skyrocketing
15 USD was fine for everything what is this. Also anniversary guitar sounds kinda like the free one... Who will buy that?
tiny reminder if something feels like it needs to change bring it to the #beta-feedback room politely so it can be read and received properly.. (also I can't find the guitar either so might be a bug that it's missing still for some people) 
It looks like it's devices with certain Adreno GPUs (it's always the Adreno GPUs , but it may not be limited to those.
)
Waiting for android...
I was hoping the anniversary guitar would have a more… grungy sound tbh cus the Performance guitar didn’t hit that spot well…
I suppose technically, the performance guitar isn't free since it requires AP, but I do get what you mean. I wonder if the sound will change? A bass electric guitar could be nice to have, since Performance's guitar is higher pitched.
they heard out complaints about the pants price and heard us, then went “I do not see it” and decided to jack the guitar price up 💀 like ig it staying there forever is a good thing but if it’s gonna be THAT expensive then I think atleast office access would be nice.
I assume the guitar will sound different it is just a model rn with all the performance guitars stuff as a placeholder presumably. Even the icon
It sounds th same but looks different
I believe if you want the guitar, you would be much better off just getting the AP
the anniversary guitar isnt even showing up for me lol
If the prices for the instruments don't change there's no way I'm going to pay 20 bucks per one. I was going to get two but paying 20 for each is just a tad too much for me. And I was gonna get anniversary but NOT at 30 bucks idc how many candles they tag on.
guitar for 30$....
I mean its good for those newcomers who will miss performance and dont want to wait on the ts. But 30 is kinda pushing it even with the candles bundled
You'll have to use the spell by the ice cream cart where all the spirits are gathered
i cant even find the guitar even when im in office 😭 i took the spells of course but man
talk to the npc in that one room
Talk to the npc that you buy the office cape from it should be there the pack uses a candle for a symbol but says guitar
Cape npc sells it.
i'm surprised how much tgc is confident in a current rainbow pants design, even with colors tweaked a bit.
like, it takes a lot of nerve to sell igc pants with extra belts as a special iap
guess it's the same situation as ancestor cape 
We're supposed to get candles when getting the aniv guitar from the NPC, right?
I know the update said it was gonna be like Founder's Cape Pack but it's weird it wasn't included (bug I guess?)
I wanted an acoustic guitar bc pleaful hasn't visited for a year a half
also rainbow pants hardly changing is sad to me.
me tooooo
Im honestly confused with the increase in cost for the triumph instruments. I understood a slight premium for a ult inspired instrument but now its double the cost of the original AP. Seems a bit excessive imo
ultimates are a rare thing and even v 2.0 should be rare as well. I think its fine 🤷♀️
I don't vibe with the anniversary guitar 
where to buy the birthday guitar?
ohh thank u
Ayo this update making me even more sad than I was yesterday abt the state of beta 
new triumph prices seem like such a moth bait imo.. picked the game up later then others? pay up double, kiddo
But thats kind of defeats the point of the instruments being available?
Pretty sure it was to make more people have access to similar instruments as those who got the ultimates.
Prices just keep on going up it feels like for iaps
sure we've had a few lowered but..... This update just... Feels like inflation somehow

If the triumph instruments sounded 1:1 to ults, I could understand, not like it but see where they coming from
The handpan sounds like a cheap knock off and the price isn't doing any favors to the rest 
also, even if the office guitar will end up sounding a bit different from the performance one, i don't think it will ever be something other then a pure flex item 
Is there a reason TGC is making it more and more difficult to find IAPs these days? 
So angry reactions to costs are delayed 
I cant understand tgc's patch notes with my low quality english. Is anniversary guitar added?
Tgc .... As I love and hate you, you guys put the right price on the instruments in the music shop, and decided to change the price by increasing it from 15 to 20 dollars.... Really? Players from other countries will be more affected by this increase because you can't adjust the price of cosmetics from other countries and you want to charge an instrument that doesn't even come with additional candles in the price of a Cape of office?
very disappointing
20 doolars are 340 turkish liras bruh
Please be sure to also share your opinion into #beta-feedback as well, if you have not already.
That way it is sure to be counted.
If anybody tried to flex to me they got a 30 dollar guitar in a game I would feel bad for em more than anything.
You just have to find the NPC that sells that Founder's cape in the Office
Really thanks for help.
Where Guitar 
wait, are u sure about the candle part? update post says it comes with a large number of candles, just like office cape. 
is the guitar 20 or 30 dollars? im hearing both
30
Anniversary guitar 30 the instruments in music shop bumped to 20.

More info in #beta-announcements
well this update patch is a disappointing read
The costs are stated in the patch notes. It’s just strange how new IAPs are “hidden” or restricted by time stamps.
triumph prices raised after people said they were already too much 🤢
Only way it could be sadder if it said "removed rainbow suspenders off days rainbow pants" 
A lot of live players (and beta players too) dont read the patch notes, i was making a joke though
don't give them ideas-
Sorry. I’m just tired. 
It actually seemed to me like the $15 was a happy medium for many people regarding the Triumph instruments, considering their ultimate item status and new look. But I wonder if the new sound added to these Triumph instruments is the reason for the extra increase?
they lowered the price of one single item to grossly increase the price of three others, that’s disappointing
I got the electric guitar from the office spirit. I thought it was supposed to also come with candles but i didn't get any 🤷🏽
even if it does get a new sound i dont think it justifies such a large increase...
bruh they didn't even fix the pants at all its like a huge middle finger to us
And atm sound of music shop ones sound worse and anniversary so far sounds the same.
Triumph handpan still sounds so bad 
This ain't a triumph this a mediocre melody
I will hat to try the instruments more throughly. I dont think the hand pan changed much outside of a bit more of a reverb
Fix the pants? Were they bugged?
I actually like quite a lot the pants-
I'm more thinking into the flowers...
they lowered the price for pants tho, in prev update, to $10
The triumph handpan is pretty actually imo? Sound wise. It definitely feels more. Real.
i'm scared sky is gonna go down the drain at tgc's hands at this rate
The last few update decisions have been really depressing. Also 'we said we wanted boots on rainbow pant and they just said "darken the feet
"
arg it's such a pain we can't report people without getting an error 😭
Tgc 🤝EA Games
Imo, for a copy of some pants with a few changes shouldn't be sold as IAP...
And still no new igc item for rainbow. 
I agree
it's not like caring about players even matters now that they have that investment :/ when lots of money comes into the picture everyone gets greedy
More real? No, not in the slightest, a real handpan doesn't sound like that, a quick YouTube search tells ya a good handpan doesn't sound like triumph:s 
tgc looking at fan concepts for rainbow pants: 🙈
the earring shouldve been igc tbh but maybe thats just me
If the guitar gave office access like the founders I think it could be worth the 30
They know they will always have people to buy no matter how high they raise prices so they just keep upping them
Tgc's creativity is amazing 
TGC looking at all the art for cheap igc items they could add ➖__ ➖"I donot see it"
yeah the guitar literally doesn't do anything useful and isn't worth the price like the switch or founders pack
They may not be able to use fan concepts due to legal reasons. I've read many instances of authors saying they cannot read or look at fan creations for legal reasons, in the event that similar ideas are shared. I believe Neil Gaiman talked about it once. (Not saying that this is the case here, but it could be?)
Aniv guitar is a permanent addition as they said, but 30 bucks for it and for some candles (which may or may not be the same as founders?) Idk, if it's gonna sound the same as Mellow's guitar, it definitely doesn't seem the worth unless you really need a guitar
At this point the creativity has been yeeted.
Bruh why did they have to increase the prices so much?? This is ridiculous. And still no free cosmetics for DoR. :/
Maybe if the anniversary guitar was bundled with founders cape as a pack? But then that would make anyone who bought it before anniversary be cheated off it / not able to get it 
I cant find the guitar in the office outside of spells
they should've at least got the hint that these plants are garbage
Honestly if they release all these new iaps for rainbow, music shop, and anniversary and no igc items for rainbow people are going to absolutely say they're money hungry.
if we complain about days of rainbow more tho, all they gonna do is pull the "we have a gay dev on it" card again and move on. 
still sad bouquet hasn't been given a resize potion yet
LMAOOOOOOOO THEY RAISED THE PRICES
What TGC thinks? That we all are built in gold?
yeah tgc is blissfully oblivious to the fact that we're getting fed up with their [honk]
Well the anniversary is a month after and there is quite a bit of free goodies for that event. Idk when they will release the guitar, it may come before the anniversary.
What where can I get the second guitar??
I know they aren't your taste, but I have seen people comment that they do like them who may not appreciate their tastes being called garbage. Whatever your opinions on it, perhaps stray from using that type of wordage?
wait they what 
Literally that was so depressingly funny.
"We want new igc items why would anyone on tgc make this decision! They could have done a cheap one or lowered price of cape"
"ACTUALLYYY we have a gay working on rainbow so..."
considering the anniv guitar was supposed to be added like at least one-two updates ago does this still count as a "first build" version 
@/wander I don't think this is the case since they do definitely take inspiration from the fanart/fan creations/feedback/wishlist items. the underground caverns are based on concept art ash did before they were hired, for instance
Y’all are having a temper tantrum at this point. Put it in feedback and move on
they're a recolor of an item that already exists being sold for the same price as the adventure pass for the season you could get them in
Just because a dev is part of the event doesn't mean they can make decisions about pricing. You wouldn't find a game writer deciding economy prices for instance.
Did they just make the prices more worse?!
we are coping rn 
the anger is completely justified tbh
I trust this is a wip and we'll receive changes in a future but the prices are raging everybody 
calm down we need to call out in feedback I'm pretty sure the company will understand our POV 
Excuse us for using the discussion channel to discuss
people having a discussion in the discussion channel? thats crazy
Yeah
what's the point of wishlist area then ... if they allow to post art there
also i typed plants 💀 💀 💀 give us more plants tgc
BRUH THEY LOSING MONEY OR WHAT?! 
@hasty moth fr people acting like this don't happen every beta update
i'm scared now. everyone's getting angry with tgc for the decisions they're making, but at this point, i think that the people getting angry with tgc are gonna cause them to break down and not give us anything cause it was all not good enough.
It's fine to discuss and say that you don't like something, but please do remain respectful of other community members and differing opinions 
I will say I do agree with them in that it is important though to submit posts in #beta-feedback too so our 'votes' gets counted. It was mentioned by a dev that chat gets buried here and so opinions are missed, the only way that peoples thoughts are gathered for certain is through the feedback channels.
If they do that how is it our fault. If they do that it's just being pointedly mean.
that sky animated project seems to be draining a lot of funds rn 
Tgc is no longer a small team and an indie company, it is now a big company and like any good company: it likes to charge dearly for things and only launch iaps items, whether you believe it or not, They stopped focusing on quality and preferred to focus on the amount of money earned.
sooner or later that ~160mil is gonna wear out and they're gonna crash once they realize they have to earn player respect
We got new stuff for feast that was igc and iirc with the table and cape it was much more expensive than rainbow cape but it lasted 3 weeks instead of 2?
so honestly thinking about it they could just make days of rainbow last a bit longer and offer another igc item
that way they dont drop the price and upset older people while adding a new item and giving new players more time to save and obviously more time for people to buy the iaps.
"ThatMoneyCompany" 💸💸💸
No they're not, it's actually the opposite. TGC received a MILLIONAIRE investiment from Pixar's co-founder, but yet they raise the prices down our guts
please remember not to try to twist people's words just to suit an argument you're making. The comment about having an lgbtq+ dev on the project was not made in the spirit of shutting people up, but in the hope that people might not assume malice or outsider treatment by the company, because there is none of that coming from TGC devs. The decisions they make may not be explained easily without sharing sensitive business information, but us not understanding every choice does nnot automatically mean malice or other ill intentions are the only possible explanations
What where can I get the second guitar??
but ya'll are pretty much getting overworked about stuff that is STILL UNFINISHED.
why do anniversary guitar and season guitar sound the same?
We're discussion it bro finna tell me discussion is illegal these days
We have a right to be upset about a price change, especially if it's without explanation on why they would raise it. Granted, game companies don't need to explain why they raised a price for something, but it would be nice if they said why the Triumph prices were going up when literally no one asked for that
Off to feedback I go then
Wishlist can exist, you can say "I want a leaf cape" and TGC can make their own version of a leaf cape for example, while not using the same design.
If TGC used any of the fan designs shared in #beta-screenshots-videos for these DoR pants, for example, that would get them into hot legal waters unless appropriate licensing and contracts were made, I would imagine.
Office
At this point I kind of got the vibe when the days love items got more work than the season we were in. The boat iap went through like 5 iterations while polish to abyss cosmetics were like... Non-existent.
Haven't we tried many times to put our complaints about prices in betta feedback and tgc is just like 🤷♂️
bc it's the same XD
ever since days of mischief year 1 lol
It's better to receive nothing then to make us a clown by those additions

So will it change? Or do I pay $30 and get 30 candles?
I have an issue regarding sky beta for Huawei, but it won't let me send my email to the company 🥺
Exactly then why do they make the prices more higher???! Fr gonna tell me they just hate collecters or what as a collecter im offended ngl
@azure canopy FR THEY NEVER LISTEN TO US ABOUT PRICES
only disappointment
Maybe Skybot just filters out any complaints in feedback channels
30 candles would be too low for something being charged $30. Maybe something close to 115, like the Founder's Packj, but I'm not sure
Everybody is a human and everybody can make things that can upset others and communication is the key, if you alredy posted your feedback about the change in prices please try not to add wood into the fire, we all are disappointed but we gotta have hopes on changes 
Honestly I woundnt be surprised
because each and every complaint is not answered personally does not mean they aren't collected, read, and analyzed. it's also important to remember that discord population is a tiny percentage of all players, so feedback is coming from more than just the vocal people in this channel
Crying, today’s quest is the Enchantment music sheet, I know it too damn well so I end up missing 1-2 notes because I play faster than the sheet itself. That’s all
And yet they make it so that some information can never be seen unless people use Discord or other social media sites
well, the point of beta is that the stuff we leave feedback on will always be unfinished to some extent. if you wait until something is finished to ask for changes, how can you change anything at all about the final product? I understand where you're coming from, but there will always be value in sharing constructive thoughts at any stage of development imo
welp, i'm gonna stop talking now. everyone is gonna ruin sky's third anniversary out of anger. thanks a lot.
There has to be a change. otherwise it would be a huge failure.
What are we yelling about
I dont see why we cant just have days of rainbow last all june
I genuinely think that would make them able to sell another igc item without adding too much pressure on new players while giving more options without a real money price tag
Never heard it before but it was beautiful when I played it. Hopefully I can get that music sheet from a TS at some point
The feedback sent to our channels is not filtered or edited in anyway, and I'd ask folks to take care with accusations like this that can easily start rumors
ok but the overhelming majority agrees these prices are a mockery
We never really get any actual things that show you care about our price complaints tho stuff eather stays the same price or goes UP
Lol don't tell me i didn't say this but their not gonna even listen
its been like 3 years still didn't listen to us about iap's changing prices
That'll be a miracle if they changed those
Thank you for the clarification Sagomay. 
feedback does need to follow server rules still. profanity and abuse in feedback will not be tolerated, and will mostly likely mean your feedback won't be seen
The lowering of rainbow pants was an example of listening but then immediately hiking everything else felt tone deaf...
They also never think about foreign players and how their countries currency are way less valuable, which makes prices astronomical EXPENSIVE
On live I'm going to pretend this music store doesn't exist hahaha
@azure canopy Alexdolly is a volunteer moderator, not staff.
I absolutely understand your frustration and why you're feeling this way. I can't make any promises about whether or how it will change, but I can promise to pass on your feedback if you send it to #beta-feedback
I apologize; I didn't mean that to be serious 
It does feel like you tune out negative feedback sometimes, but I didn't mean to suggest that that's what I thought was actually happening
well, it won't do any good to complain about the prices because they know that there are always people who will buy and will abuse the prices of iap
THEY LOWERED SOMETHING AND MADE SOMETHING MORE AND MORE UP LIKE?
@lament meteor My country prices are very good
But no their going far away at this..im disspointed
How is that ensured? By a bot or a human being?
tgc out here taking 1 step forward and 3 back i swear
They've changed IAP prices a few times before, if I recall, so don't lose hope yet.
Sagomay, do you happen to know if the anniversary guitar's sound is a work in progress, or is it intended to sound the same as the Performance Guitar?
Game might be based in US but it’s a global game lacking the consideration to act globally. The prices always goes up and up but it’s not fair when it gets to crazy amount of prices with conversion in foreign countries. It’s really disheartening to see nobody cares
Everyone rn even me:
Im not mad Just disspointed
So where is the new guitar located?ive been to office and music shop,no option to purchase it
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
Yeah, there's a glimmer of hope since a dev is seeing us, but still... I am afraid of the future.
by both mods and bots, depending on what's needed. moderators can read feedback channels and will enforce server rules if content is abusive, off-topic, or otherwise in violation of server rules
You're lucky, unfortunately my country currency isn't that valuable which makes even the Adventure Pass very pricey and not that affordable with the currency conversion
kinda worried for mischief 2022 rn ngl 
i'm having trouble finding where the anniversary guitar is, can someone tell me where to find it?
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
I have heard it is with the cape NPC in office.
Thanks for clarifying. Would it be possible to state that more clearly in the FAQ for the server, or otherwise in each feedback channel’s pin?
Technically TGC is free to use any fanart since the work is inspired on their game/work afaik
By sharing your User Generated Content with the Community, you grant thatgamecompany an unrestricted, irrevocable, non-exclusive and universal right and license to reproduce, modify, and redistribute your User Generated Content solely in connection with our Games.
https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/a/sky-children-of-the-light/?l=en&p=all&s=legal-code-of-conduct&f=eula-terms-of-service
Unfortunately they dont control the variations in prices due to foreign exchange i think thats through the respective stores. (I dont agree with the high costs regardless but that part is out of their control)
And feast
i wonder how things will look in a few years (if Sky lasts that long) when it comes to events n iaps since they keep adding more and more each year
2025 pay up 600 candles during days of rainbow or whatever
Preparing for no igc items bc I pointed out how mischief is 280 candles and they said no igc item bc rainbow was expensive and ONLY iaps /s
at least all these instruments will be there forever so again i will say don't feel pressured to buy everything at once
that said the prices are still ridiculous
could buy a whole new game instead of the anniversary guitar
no, that's not necessary. it should be assumed that anything you do in this server is subject to this server's rules
that's the worse excuse ever, I think they forgot people can BUY CANDLES WITH REAL MONEY
wouldn’t hurt to have it in the faq still
My for my Australian friend the anniversary guitar will be 50 AUD like Jesus
No, it should be clarified that volunteer mods not paid by TGC can read and filter feedback
Are they? Is it stated in their TOS when you play the game? I admit I have not read it all in full.
I am only guessing based of of what other creatives in similar professions have stated about fan works, and just the legalities of taking unique ideas in general without a contract, regardless of the profession itself.
Its really sad that tgc don't really care about other country prices
Ngl the prices are going very high recently..i have a partner and i always love to buy them things but recently its getting hard because of the prices...may elders help us 
By the end of next year a flower iap is going to be 45$ with no extra candles and you have to pay a monthly subscription to keep it
I literally talked about this with a bunch of friends earlier today, we keep piling past years iaps and I cant figure out any solution either for future years, jwslkgjaw imagine reaching a point with around 20 iaps and uhm it doesnt sound very new player friendly
Ye just edit that bit in my message
For me it will be 135 R$ like that's 10% of a monthly minimum wage
Wassup Daka
also enjoying the heat?
I believe some would argue otherwise, but if that’s TGC’s stand, so be it.
Is it ok to quote you on this, if someone asks in the future?
Nah bro seasonal candles would be for 50$
@wraith agate new players: nah im not playing anymore dis don't look f2p friendly
still glad the anniversary guitar isn't limited anymore, at least there's no FOMO involved in buying it, it would've been a disaster. 
not really but wbu sat? 
I'm sure elders are as disappointed as us XD
We have no plans to update the FAQ or pins. It's pretty normal to expect that posts community members send on the server are subject to moderation no matter what channel they're sent in.
Eh I'm just lurking 
sky 2023 you have to pay a monthly subscription to keep your candles and changing an item you have on will cost you 10 cents each time
mods have access to server logs, I control skybot, so I have access to more than some. there is no intention to make people think feedback can't be read by moderators
i thought the anniversary guitar was supposed to have 115 candles with it?
right I didn't received the candle pack
I seem to remember that the previous stance has always been that only TGC staff see feedback, which may have influenced how freely member speak at times.
lol i still can't find the guitar. gonna put that in feedback i guess /neut. or a bug report.
@wraith agate @plain ore Did the candles not appear in your inventory after purchasing OR after restarting the game?
insert skeletons staring meme but make it the elders and skykids
It's where the npc that sells the cape is in office.
I feel you
have not yet restarted the game after purchasing, but it didnt add up to the candles like the packs usually do :')
I also didn't get the candles 
sky subscription you autopay for passes each event
(tgc Dont)
Let me log in again real quick for an answer 
yeah even after resetting pultiple times/checking on the office NPC the candles are nowhere to be found
(hi sat, hi daka)
i didn't get candles too
damage control is definitely making me sus 
Its going to get difficult for new comers to collect everything.
Its kind of tricky to balance because because things like mischief people will want the return of legacy items but people who have those items will want something new leading to a very intimidating amount of money.
Because retiring an item disappoints those who didnt buy ie the original rainbow flower (and adds to FOMO in general)
I think TGC could be a bit more clear when items are not going to return the following year so people can choose with this in mind.
I'm sorry, but that's not really clear when you read this statement:
Please note that once you send a message here, it will be moved to a private channel where TGC can read it. This is intended, and is meant to help protect everyone's privacy so that players can feel secure when submitting feedback to us.
Mods are not TGC, and I don't feel secure knowing people not part of TGC can read it when that's not made clear here. This statement is at best misleading.
alright guess it's time for the another feedback essay 🚶
yeah there's no second NPC nor does the iap appear when i click the chat button.
I did restart the game and still the same amount b4 I purchased
Thank you very much!
I'm not a lawyer, but I believe I've heard that phrasing in use with sites like Twitter, Instagram, etcetera: essentially meaning that those companies can display your photos or art on their site and in advertisements for their site. As in "reproduce, redistribute" meaning it can be seen in a recent or a 'top' page or an ad on youtube, and "modify" meaning it can be placed into a format (like an advertisement) which you didn't originally create. Like the Shopify ads we may see that show artists works for sale. At the same time, none of these companies claim ownership to the art.
I only say this because "We want you to create and express yourself freely, and you retain all rights in and to your User Generated Content." insinuates that the creator still claims the rights and ownership to the work. So TGC does not own it, and therefore cannot use it without getting the rights of ownership via contracts for your design.
Apologies for the essay.
Feel free to correct me if I am mistaken, any law-minded friends out there.
hey isnt catmull the guy advising TGC ?
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/business/pixars-ed-catmull-emerges-as-central-figure-in-the-wage-fixing-scandal-101362.html
cos like... that would explain a LOT
NEXOOO 🫂 welcome JNDNF
if ya need help, u gotta tap the nice blue caped person twice, or at least that was the case for me
You have to wait for the dialogue to finish it will show up iirc
aaah ty
yoooo the whole squad its hereeee hiii neeexxx 
while people who are familiar with how channel permissions and discord from a moderation standpoint work will probably realise that means feedback cannot be both moderated and truly for tgc's eyes only, I don't think informing people of exactly that is something that is easily dismissed. I don't think anyone is arguing that it must be changed, just that it should be made explicit
All the stress and upset with these events is making me tempted to quit beta. I just keep getting disappointed with every update that comes out recently it seems
feels like tgc does something to show they listen and then take two steps back.
What’s the price for astro cape?
It was 24.99
Astro cape is no longer in the game.
you're supposed to get candles when purchasing the anniversary guitar right? i didn't get any, should i report that as a bug?
okie
Context: Ed Catmull is TGC's principal advisor on creative culture and strategic growth.
yeah, same, didn't expect the beta tester experience to be so miserable 
Yes I know but I do recall it’s one of the most expensive IAP in game,just wanna know if Guitar outruns it(it appears yes)
oh Yikes
welp we have discovered our problem tgc is being money hungry
What's worse is it doesn't feel like quitting will even matter since another invite wave will come and the void will be filled. Guess all it does is save our peace of mind.
or makes us naive to what could have been by only seeing the live version update.
yeah maybe take a step back from the chat (and beta in general) if it's making you feel that stressed 
let's move on from moderation. moderators need to be able to see any channel where members can send information so that we can enforce server rules. allowing members to freely send any abusive content or spam to clog channels and hinder progress of the community Dev team would be unreasonable.
Sure, but it's not unreasonable for you to state explicitly that you can and do see feedback, and that it's moderated
I think Founder’s and Nintendo pack are the most expensive ones.
How many candles are there in the anniversary guitar pack?
i (and i'm sure a majority of people) don't really mind that mods can read the feedback channels, it would have just been nice to know that's been the case at all
it was never a secret and anyone pushing the assumption that mods were hiding that fact is distorting the truth.
Anyone purchased the new pack and didn’t received any candles?coz tht happened to me
tbh i really dont feel like sky will survive past 2025 with the steady price increases and the fact that after a while especially if you are a more solo player you really dont have anything to do it game it it becomes really boring...
I appreciate the feedback on the feedback channel (mmm, meta), but we do need to stay on topic
If it's not a secret then I don't understand why it's such a big deal to state it plainly on the page
i didn't say it was a secret, please don't put words in my mouth. but even then a lot of people obviously didn't know...
I'm going to ask folks to keep the topic on beta content
honestly same like i love sky n all but like
w the way it’s heading it’s just. Hm
How about „I see your point and more communication could have helped. We’ll look into it“
moderation faq when
nft spirits
at this point i wouldn't be surprised if an angry mob just appears outside tgc's office. i don't want it to happen, but it's probably going to at this point... (AND THIS IS NOT A JOKE)
l it's not such a big deal. it's expected that all channels in this server that are available for members to send messages in are moderated
kizuna
I always wonder what will happen if sky stops maintaining servers. Like will we get an offline mode or will it just shut down? I've spent a lot on iaps.... Kinda sucks to think about it could all be gone.
you need more to a game than collecting candles and cosmetics sure the seasons bring new content but seasons are just copy and paste formats and it takes 20-30 minutes to explore a new area
i was thinking abt the prices but dont give the devs ideas /j
good lord if sky ends up like feral i might actually go mad
reason it fell was aggressive iaps and wildworks failing to communicate w their playerbase and nfts were just the final blow we already got the aggresive iaps down jenova do NOT pull a clark stacey
Some of this sounds familiar oh no 
id literally quit honestly. I feel like events have been getting more disappointing and the games just getting more expensive. Its straying from the games original point, it’s not relaxing anymore.
if they actually put the things people have been heavily criticizing in live things with go down FAST
also remember the concepts from tgc for sky where they said they didn't want purchases to feel 'transactional'? lol rip to that i guess
Sky rn with prices : Genshin2! nah genshin prices do be better
well my verdict is: Thatgreedycompany 💸
Sky is one of my favourite games and I would hate to see it end up like how we're predicting it'll end up 
like live people would know any better smh 
This needs to be clearly stated somewhere, because not everyone will understand that by just reading the posts in the feedback channels. You're asking us to read something into those statements that just isn't there, especially for people unfamiliar with Discord
I am sad I want sky to get better but... It feels like a struggle to get changes.
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
THATS THE WORRYING BIT
i stuck w fer.al since wave 4 closed beta testing and met some super cool ppl in the community and things started great! but then. They started focusing more on churning out iaps and events and ways to make cash other than core gameplay and things that would flesh out already existing mechanics and lore
Come on guys just a couple of hours ago we were delighted by performances stuff except the teeny tiny flower pot cough 
I'm pretty sure they are aware of the risks they are taking rn 
The gameplay is already exhausting itself, lots of burnout
Now the prices are going to be insane, hopefully they go down
ok, fine, if everyone hates the iaps so much, tgc should just get rid of everything they had planned for this event. no anniversary celebration, no days of rainbow, nothing. cause if everyone is gonna argue about everything getting too pricey and annoying, then just don't even give them the items anymore. i hate seeing everyone forget that sky was originally made by a small company that just wanted a game for people to socialize. i hope this all blows over soon. cause if this doesn't stop, i'm afraid that tgc will just pull the plug on sky entirely, and everything will be gone.
Sky lost quality to focus on selling cosmetics, and it's unfortunate
Sagomay, do you happen to know if the anniversary guitar's sound is a work in progress, or is it intended to sound the same as the Performance Guitar?
Same npc as the office cape.
you missed the point completely
you CANT just keep blindly defending this anymore. TGC has like over 100 staff members or something and recently got 160 million bucks. they aren't small anymore. that argument doesn't work.
Do the triumph instruments still sound the same in this patch? Cause if they still have those cheap knockoff sounds to them the price bump is mega eugh 
Sky feels like its built to give you burnout ngl
oh beta you always surprise me
that would be funny i would watch
as if it hasnt done that already 
if i had a quarter for the amount of players that dropped the game from burnout alone i could buy so so so so many sodas
events should not revolve around iaps at all smh 
it's game designed to keep you playing for as long as possible which simply speaking is designing for burnout
I GIVE UP THEN. I JUST GIVE UP. IF EVERYONE IS JUST GONNA START PICKING ON ME FOR TRYING TO SIDE WITH TGC ON THIS ONE. THEN I'M DONE. I'M DONE
That’s not how a professional business is run.
Catmull advising TGC explains so much tbh. Might stop buying even passes because of that.
Not being toxic but is TGC really knows what Skykids want?I don’t know about y’all but I kind of feels like TGC has been doing it wrong from time to time.I mean,double rainbow flower?maybe we can get a triple next year?and once again DoR,why isn’t there new IGC items for us to obtain,so we’re just switching to pay to win mode?
New reason to hate sky derm...put it in your list dermelles...
not my fault you can’t see when enough is enough
I absolutely do NOT hate tgc. But I am tired of this game becoming a mess
for a game based on friendship and connection w other it sure does fumble on those aspects once you get past your first run of the game 
I don't think beta atm is much different than it has always been, now we just have two years of events, seasons (i.e. traveling spirits) and iap in our backpacks that weigh on the general experience. sky will not collapse
Can we talk about how even days of nature gets cool events and wax stuff like turtle and geyser and rainbow it's just been here's 1 new igc item and a crap ton of iaps and no cool stuff other than seeing rainbows. Like can we get more than just two npcs and a rainbow?? Like an event like DoN?
Same, because its such a cute game and i met wonderful people through it, and the lore
but oh my if sky ends up like this ill be kinda sad, its one of the only games i play and get entertained by tbh
My friend, I don't think others are picking on you as they were only stating politely that they felt you missed their point.
Text tone can be hard to read online, if you feel yourself getting heated it may be best to step away for a moment.
I hope you can feel better shortly.
a days of rainbow area would be so cute 😔
Again, I'm going to ask that people stay respectful towards each other, and that no attacks are made for someone's opinion on any of the content or changes.
YEAH YOU PUT INTO WORDS WHAT IS BUGGING ME
I will remove start removing posts that are insulting and disrespectful to others 
Regardless if it's a collaboration or not, it's still not a fair price, even more in a simple cosmetic that in a while the game can end and you'll never have access to it again, Tgc left the price fair before, but now they exaggerated a lot on it, besides the guitar has no sound difference compared to the pass and do you think 30 dollars is fair? well that's the point, Tgc has become a mercenary and I have no doubt that in the big update they will only release full price cosmetics at 20 30 dollars in the last season of 2022
yeah i wrote an entire essay in feedback just about that, being gay really seems to be a dlc content on sky rn
20$ to get inside
i joined beta so i could have fun and help to test out the game but i’ve barely been in for a month and i’m already stressed out by having to see how events are slowly becoming completely IAP oriented. It’s lowkey scary. I’ve played for around a year and a half now in total and it seems to just be slowly becoming less oriented around gameplay and more oriented around spending money to get all the latest cosmetics.
wait what is the new igc item for DoR? i thought there were none or did i miss something in an update?
I'm not going to hate this game at all, Yami. I am going to hate the direction this game is going, though. Because when you're ignoring cosmetics and are oblivious to the problems of Sky, it's a great game. However when you begin analyzing some of them, you're gonna find out more problems than you intended to, and it ends up becoming an avalanche as you research more and more.
remember to keep it civil in here.
i do understand why sky has in game currency, as it is a free game that needs money to keep it afloat, but it is also important to realize when prices get too extreme.
reminder that sometimes if you haven't eaten for a while you can get grumpy! it happens to me
parade w spirits for days of rainbow when cmon how come the event in June w rainbows (cough cough GAY) gets crumbs compared to all the new snazzy stuff other events are getting
Next update it’s $30 with 100 candles
That is a question worth a “404 Not Found” to be the answer
There is none this year which makes this even more comical
Sky is nothing but for profit at this point they don't listen to their fanbase anymore and just keep pushing prices up and up knowing they will always have someone to buy them
TGC could hit two birds with one stone by bringing martha (
) back as a float for the rythm troupe 
these spirits are fruity
beta expectation: oh boy i can't wait to see what tgc has in store for us! i'm gonna help contribute to make the game as good as it can be!
beta reality:

Also a good reminder that fellow testers and members here aren't an enemy, even if differing opinions are had. At the end of the day, we all care enough about the game to share our thoughts about things. That's something we all have in common!
this is just like the little prince season
Once again I don’t hate tgc. Maybe this’ll eventually change and they’ll listen, im blindly hoping even if it seems bleak. But this is just too much. There’s not only way too much grinding, events, and igcs just becoming too expensive but now there’s just way too much IAPs and it’s hard to catch up. They event heightened the warp and upgrade friendships for what? I mean isn’t there a warp block feature? Instead now it’s just harder for everyone? I love tgc but enough is enough bro. Every day i wanna quit more but I feel like I have a chain on my ankles to this game.
the bracelet on days of rainbow panta is so funny to me for some reason
Also the fact jellyfish hair spirit literally wears their recolored pants lmaoo 😭😭😭
But either way, i totally agree with this, this years cosmetics are kinda pricey and no "sky spark" whatsoever imo
True this game was going very well..but recently the company is like : f2p and countries that barely have money or good value < money
I wish it can just go back in time to the old days..
Feedback is the way to go with cosmetic changes, or price changes. Otherwise beta is always subject to change so I'm not as pressed about it, especially this early.
The prices are as usual, expensive. But I'm glad tgc is at least moving them around more liberally than they used to
The little prince season made sense bc of licensing fees at least 
oh dear lord the little prince thing was a mess w the sword pants and back to back juggler and crab there is NO way that was a coincidence i rlly don’t believe the whole ts is randomized thing after that man
remember this whole situation tho 
Us: Hey the triumph instruments sound like poorly made 2000s MIDI freeware. Maybe make them sound better, or lower the price, please?
TGC: Huh? Change the price? You got it! Now they cost $5 more each AND still sound like midi freeware from the 2000s! 
came here because I just saw the new prices for all the instrument IAPs
Now even buying instruments is a privilege to rich people as if it is in real life? 💀
Lol I never bought this weird conspiracy people have, but that was crazy 
What conincidence ? Theres no way
Bro they just started bringing back spirits that didn't come just so people can spend money
Sometimes tgc choose the spirit without using random
the sky economy is literally turning into a real-life economy lesson. I thought this game was supposed to be like an escape from the stress? 💀💀💀💀
Cant find the guitar
It’s not fair when someone just pays a coffee price more or less while another one is charged fortune for the same single item
Guys, buckle up! An AP will be $30 from now. Start saving up now! 😂
buying the little prince sword pants literally gave me burnout and i missed juggler 
Since it's been a bit:
Make sure to also send a message in #beta-feedback about the prices if you genuinely care about making your voice heard. Don't only comment here, as conversation moves fast and it is likely your opinion and vote will be missed.
At least make some DoR IGC items for us to obtain…I’m not even asking TGC to make all the items IGC,I just wanna enjoy DoR without having the needs of paying,I already obtain all items from last year DoR so there’s nothing new for me in this event except for paying money to buy the pack
s in sky is for stress now sorry now fork over the cash 
Economics video done by a professor over the sky economy collapse? More likely than you think. /j
Same NPC as the office cape.
i... need a bit to just... ignore beta for now.
iirc juggler was a planned ts cause of days of summer prop, so this whole thing was def preplanned 
The company: bro lets make everyone suffer with high prices
literally though $60 worth of triumph instruments + $30 anniversary guitar literally costs the same as pokemon sword and shield + DLC. they are charging the same amount for instrument reskins as a whole game 