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lol
and personally if i actually get enough money I'm planning on buying the pass for my oldest friend in game
as a Christmas present even tho Christmas is already over
and even tho she doesn't celebrate Christmas.
lol
lets go to our pms @unreal hull
this is a beta testing channel
yeah sorry
Sorry for late reply but when was this confirmed by devs? Also is the base game white cape darker (dirtier looking) now too? I dont have that cape on beta. On live it's the brightest.
Was the fur color on some capes really inconvenient, sounds sus ngl...
Can you put a pic of white cape to screenshots channel?
We are not allowed to fulfill requests, it's pinned here or in screenshots channel
Can you come to beta and wear white cape for me? Did they tone it down too?
you can see it in beta screenshots. they toned it down due to brightness
Ok I can't find it there but.. anyway.. sad. It was beautiful as white.
oh are we talking about the brightness in the game? wild how you had to turn the sun off to see the cosmetics in good lighting in home
the invisible lamps in the closets definitely didnt help
everything was horribly washed out even if you went with a full black outfit while bald and maskless 
hi there! i know you're not allowed to ask for outfit requests in here, but are you allowed to ask for links to pictures that have probably already been posted?
Depends
it's to ask for pictures of extinguished skykids
i accidentally found a few from beta channels with discord search and since it seems the topic was talked about a few times i was wondering if anyone would have links to more pics
feel free to ping me if you're allowed to share links, i'll get out if beta channels for now
Brightness has been turned down?
Hello! May i know what is the current price for the fish cape?
some areas yes. if you look at fire trial for instance
but some are still extremely bright to the point of being blinding - looking at u orbit/eden. sanc water reflection is also too bright imo. as is general lighting when recharging from butterflies in areas of forest
we do not know what the price will be in live. u can check #beta-announcements for beta prices
In orbit definitely not 
the current price is 20usd, and it comes bundled with the fish headdress 
(replying here to the message from #beta-screenshots-videos) @trim spade right! I noticed there was a difference, but didn’t quite realize how big it was 
Yeah you even took the pic to compare capes and noticed an even bigger difference!
, that’s when the sudden realization hit me… I will no longer be able to cosplay a 🔦 in the Hidden Forest 😔 ww
Thank you so much!!

Does anyone know the accurate number of wax orbs that seashell gives?
I looks like 7 orbs but I’m not sure.. so I’m asking for others’ opinions 🤔
Hello, but does the fish dress give the opportunity to swim under water without limit? 
it differs from its sizes
No,the fish cosmetics are unrelated to the season
theres only one big shell there tho lol
no, the ability to dive underwater is acquired in the seasonal area
the fish cosmetics i think are for Days of Fortune, not seasonal
Yes, of course, but do I mean the time to stay underwater with the fish suit becomes unlimited?
the Days of Fortune pack is unrelated to the season, so no
Oh ok ok I understand thanks ☺️
Does Nintendo have a chance to launch new activities in the light and re-engrave the gift package or release a new gift package in the test server?
Very unlikely to get something related to Nintendo again in beta tbh, the Switch Pack was available in mobile for a while pre-Nintendo platform release but was removed off in Beta all together after since Sky Beta is only available mobile (reason in #beta-faq)
🤔
Is the mask change going to be permanent for the ult?
Could possibly be changed back to it's og state/an improved one from the feedback about it, but there's a chance it might stay the same. 
@bronze matrix yup, you're right
Ahskhah glad I am
Hello excuse me I want to ask.. I play the 4th quest of abyss season.. but I can't find the way exit?
I found barrier when I go straight up.. what should I do?
Look around more
The walls specifically
@raw wasp It's too dark to look around, can't see anything.. but thanks :D
Hoped I'll find the way out soon
Ahhh
Do you have the days of summer lights lantern?
Or alternatively firework staff spells
@raw wasp no I don't have it..
I'll try using firework
Hello, just wanted to say thanks to all of you who helped me with switching from Apple to Android, it worked.
Not sure if it's a bug, got a message saying my phone was too weak but I pressed accept and then it ran Sky, should I report? That message sounded like, sorry, your phone is unable to run Sky, it said my phone doesn't fulfil the minimum requirements (Got Sky from official Google Play store, so that shouldn't be the cause of it).
gonna ask here because i don’t know if it’s in live… are you able to gift IAP in live yet?
Yes, got to have unlocked the friendship tree a bit and be friends for three days, then it works.
It'll be okay, mine does it too. It just means because of your device's ram I think. It'll run fine, just a tiny bit laggy and the graphics won't be as good
Thank you!
No problem 😊 each android phone handles sky differently, but you should be able to play it just fine as long as you're able to download and run it
Is it time to buy the ultimate gifts yet, or should I still wait a little longer?
Id recommend waiting
Although at the same time Abyss may come to live on…
January 16th approx?
So they probably won’t. Change much until then…? Idk we’ll see
I dunno 
It couldn’t hurt to wait a little longer
I already bought everything. I think it’s okay to at this point.
Hope everyone had a good Christmas
Still waiting for new beta update to get released
Ready to wait until 2022? Gonna be awhile
Devs need a break too
I miss the updates too lmao but we gotta give them a break they’re just humans like the rest of us
Question. Does the breather do anything in season of abyss? Does it give skykids infinite oxygen?
yes and no. the mask will increase oxygen timer, but the amount of seconds added is subject to change
Thanks!
How do u even get on sky beta?
through a beta invite which aren’t available at the moment, for further information, read #beta-faq
Did you hear the second map(where the spirit of hide-and-seek and many spirits exist) of Beta Secret Forest's bell sound? I don't think I heard it in the live version.
i think it has something to do with the clock and the rainbow that happens at 5:00 am/pm pst
That makes sense. In addition, no matter what time it is right now, bell sound keeps ringing as sound effect

Ey people, is there a date for season of abyss yet?
Hi guys, how to get the dismiss cape on beta?
It happened because of an IAP bug awhile ago, I don’t think it’s possible to now
Ok thanks 
Dismiss TS when
He is still incharge of protecting the first Krill Area in Wasteland (which is why their name is Saluting Protector), one day, they'll get their 4-day vacation and visits us 
But I still miss Off-season questgiver
, he always congratulates me whenever I finished a daily quests
ПРИВЕТ
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @brave cliff. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
Same
he was give me motivation
Are we nolonger allowed to ||put down boats in eden? The black water|| i tried and it says i need to find a place with water but there is water-
Yes, it was changed a while ago, it's the same in live version
ios tester, do yall crash everytime entering sanctuary? (but not when teleporting to a friend whos in the map)
im asking another issue, skybot 
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
hope it’s okay to ping
but yes, all players crash going from bird nest to sanctuary seemingly as of the 182568 build. wind paths entrance is still safe to use 
I gave up on this season it’s too hard for me
Eh fr? 
but...that’s what your message said 🧍♂️
oop i forgot to add my mssgs
actually.. my friend is the one who crash, not me
and i was wondering the issue occurs with devices or no
dhasjkfhsdjf sorry for terrible explanation 
Thx!
? how is it hard?
Don’t understand the quests, couldn’t get passed the first one still. Diving is hard for me, can’t swim right, and the loss of breath doesn’t help me there. Have no idea where to go. It’s not intuitive like past seasons.
Y'know. With what the murals are telling us, Sky is slowly following the steps of Journey once again. With light creatures being used for industrial stuff, us being born after civilization is gone and being a light creature ourselves, then freeing the creatures… except we get to see nature healing and flourishing. We can still see scars of the world but we help them heal.… anyways that was my view on the new lore
Guys is it normal for when you start and randomly earn 345 (give or take)
It happened to both of my accounts and idk why (I’m talking about candles)
To clarify, do you mean as a new player or as a rounded number of candles?
I mean like you get to a certain point and it just adds those candles
When it is your first time getting there
when will tgc remove our sc 💀 💀
I want to ask if there is any talk about resetting candles recently?
Well, It's vacation week for the Devs rn, so nah 
It's probably gonna happen someday though
Whats a sc
There was an sc bug where if you get a wax you get tons of seasonal candle and gift passes
And till this day tgc haven't removed some people large amount of sc 💀
Pretty much some people (including me) gets all the cosmetics in just one day 
The bug hasn’t been fixed, so that’s why they haven’t been removed yet
Went to Eden earlier, and could barely see a thing in the area with the statues. The water is too bright and reflective
Yeah I did that lol. Hope they don’t fix it until after the conversion 
When’s the updated constellation coming approximately?
!omgomgwhenbeta
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
is anyone having problem with getting seaonal hearts? I only have 1 and I completed all the seasonal spirits snd still have 1 heart and can't get the mask?
if you bought the first ultimate gift (the plain cracked mask) and didn't get the rebreather, it is unobtainable for you now
Ok, since most of us can't get it to test it, what those testers who were able to get it have to say about it?
What is it's functionality? Does it help us underwater or something
pretty sure it gives an extra 10s of breath time underwater
which personally still seems underwhelming for a final ult, but it's better than the 5s it used to give ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I don’t find myself wearing it because I manage just fine underwater
I already answered you in #questions-and-help, all you need to know about beta and how to get it is in #beta-faq, please read it throughly
But i dont know how to
there’s no currently a way to get Beta, you must need to wait for a new Beta invite to get a code
So do we get a notification when the code arrives in discord?
Yes, as I mentioned earlier in my post in #questions-and-help, react to the massage that shows the two roles with
to get the ping role to be notified when the next invite waves will be and be able to get a code.
Okay thank you
Thank you
i didn't have that problem at all, but yeah, if people are having these issues, tgc should do something about it, like pointing where u need to go or idk, and i don't find diving difficult at all? i mean, you just need to point your camera where u want to go
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
a lot of people dont notice that there is the little honk star that shows you where to go if youre nearby it
bt yeah thers not a lot of leading the player
I can't give my friend heart, but she can give me heart. How can I give her heart?
Make sure you both are on the same build. If you are on dif builds or you or your friend haven't updated the app in a while you can't gift hearts to each other. Other than that not sure what it could be.
- you added eachother with QR codes and have not spent enough time together in game (about 1/2 hour. if you still cant after that then it is bugged)
- like Rae said, you could be on different builds
OK💖I see.
Thankฅ'ω'ฅ
Guy, i remember that someone said lightseeker umbrella ult is unavailable in beta ?
@late mountain sorry for the ping, but i'm seeing someone with lightseeker umbrella ult
You should report them
Ok then
!reportfaq Report them if you can
If not just ignore them.
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
I met 2 people with them and reported them all 
Thanks! Generally, only need report the person hacking, but TGC will be able to investigate. 
Hello. I just wanted to see if the abyss is back on beta? I haven’t seen the boat in weeksssssss
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
I have already submitted this with a screen shot weeks ago
No update on the same
What’s GW?
Oohh. Let me check that out. Where exactly in the social space?
Okay. Thank you so much 😊
Social space is the part of a realm where you teleport into. It can also be said that the social space is where the spirit tombstones/gravestones are. 
its basically the spawn area
Hello. So one more question. How many spirits are there in the season? I have relived four spirits is there one more?
Because I am one heart short to get the ultimate reward
Did you perhaps buy the mask that has been removed?
Because one of the reward has been removed, and the other reward is changed price to 2 ss hearts.
Nope I only have the pendant and the cape as the seasonal heart currently.
Ohh that would explain it. So is there any update on how we can get the new mask?
Being a beta player is not as easy as I though it would be lol
There was a mask in the QG’s tree that was removed. Originally, there were 4 ultimates, each costing 1 heart. So if you bought that you will not have enough hearts left for the rest now.
Yup I just checked I have the removed mask with me.
The mask reward has been removed forever, so no. No info until now that the mask will come back. If anyone has buy that mask but didn't buy the extra breath mask.. Sorry for your loss.
You can’t have the removed mask. It was removed from the game completely. 👀
I checked the screen shots I had taken earlier
No biggies. I will get it when the season goes live
Thank you for your help guys
I don’t quite understand, sorry. You are saying you still have the first mask from the QG tree, the one that has been removed from the game?
I checked the screen shots I had taken earlier on in the season. That how I knew that I had already taken the removed mask
As of now I only have the masks that the spirits offer
Sorry for that. I hope my response cleared the confusion
Yes. No problem! 
Hi everyone , I am drawing now
Hello
Hi
Kindly please use #general-sky-discussion. This channel is for discussing beta testing findings, not for saying hello and such 
Bruh a simple hi is alright buddy
I just heard that there’s no preorder for Abyss- can someone please tell me why that is?
They completely removed preorders as a thing. Now everyone gets the preorder candles at the start of the season.
It was briefly explained in the 0.15.5 patch notes here: https://bit.ly/SkyPatch0155
You might have to do a bit of skimming to reach the section
Great, thank you!
Unfortunately, due to changes to update procedures and scheduling, once Season of Flight concludes we will no longer be able to offer Adventure Pass preorders for future seasons.
No further information was given
Adventure Pass Preorders Will Be Discontinued
We appreciate everyone who has used the preorder feature for Adventure Passes and Adventure Packs to share with friends. Unfortunately, due to changes to update procedures and scheduling, once Season of Flight concludes we will no longer be able to offer Adventure Pass preorders for future seasons. Here’s how Adventure Passes will be affected by this change:
Passes can be purchased only after a Season begins. Their prices remain the same.
The former preorder bonus will now be applied to all Passes, and we’ve expanded this to include Passes a player receives as a gift. This means that all purchased and gifted Adventure Passes will come with a total of 30 Seasonal Candles.
For the next Season that begins in early 2022, there will not be an in-game countdown for the start of the Season since that function was connected to the preorder feature. However, we’re working on restoring the countdown in future updates. In the meantime, be sure to keep an eye on our social media channels for announcements about the next Season!
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and as always, we appreciate our players’ understanding and remain just as excited to bring you our next Season once the new year is underway!
Mucho texto
Should I delete? Just wanted to be thorough
Eh, chat is dead, doesn’t matter
Hi, I have a question...
How many stars are in the new abyss area and what is their location? Thank you :))
2, i think.. one is at the top of the high tower... another one is close to the underwater gate area
Does anyone know when the tiger mask will be released in live?
!omgomgwhen It'll be during days of Fortune most likely, though we don't have any date yet as far as I know.
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Thank you @drowsy fiber 
Hello kind beta fellows
Asking for a friend,
The tea cups of Bloom tea set in Live are now hidden in the table , you can only see them during drinking animation...
is it fixed in Beta? ^ ^
Not yet i think, lemme confirm
Yep, no cup
Thank you Yash! 
Well, Days of Fortune are connected to the Lunar New Year. Previous Lunar New Year was at February 12. Previous Days of Fortune started at February 8.
So, if TGC again releases event 4 days before Lunar New Year, this Days of Fortune will start at January 27
Thats pretty close to my bday, how exciting! Itll be like a late bday gift 
Eyo, got a question. The entrance to the new area (Abyss season) is still the same, right? Shipwreck area in GW, a boat close to the tower thingy? Asking cuz.. There's no boat for me and no way to access the new area. Been there once, a couple of weeks ago, and was wondering if anything has changed that I'm not aware of. Thank you 
@twilit yoke as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space
it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉
🧍🏽♀️ok I haven't played the new season in a while did the move the boat? bc I can't find it ;_;
read the message above yours 
the message in beta updates is a bit old, so you would have had to scroll up a fair amount. a lot of reading, but there's a lot of content to cover 
ok a more general beta question! im already in beta (came in the most recent batch) so i was wondering if i need to renew my position as a beta tester each round? like, do i need to keep an eye out for beta invites, or did i only need to get in once?
once only
For Android, you're in beta until you manually "leave program." For iOS, as long as you're somewhat active in beta, you won't get kicked. We don't know what constitutes as "active," but usually just logging in once in awhile should count.
Why was the quest givers boat changed? It looks so much simpler than it did before :(
the new mechanics for the new seasons suck so much
why are tgc trying to be realistic with new mechanics and trying so hard to introduce more into the game when it was perfectly fine before.
with the new diving feature it isn't even fun to explore new areas because the only thing u concentrate on is the breathing meter.
honestly tgc is ignoring it's fanbase when we complain about the breathing feature and the things you all change.
the boat before was cool unless you are able to upgrade it via the quests
and if tgc didn't try so hard to make the game realistic it would be a lot better
maybe I'm complaining to complain but it's a serious issue
the environment for next season is gorgeous and I want to explore without dying so quickly. :(
@spark lance as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space
it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉
ok :)
its more about making it a challenge rather than realism
think it as hidden forest, but underwater
there is plenty of spots to refill your breath just like recharging spots in hidden forest
it encourages you to limit your movement so you can actually explore and find new things for a longer period of time rather than getting bored of it in a day and forgetting about it all
A good way to encourage limiting your movement would be to have the breath meter drain slower when stationary. 
@spark lance totally agree. I hope the dive/swim season is scrapped. This is “Sky” where we fly and bonk into things. Lol. Not “Ocean” where we dive, swim, and die. & Yes. I have… to anyone that wants to tell me to give feedback. This may be the very first time in live that I don’t purchase at AP for 3.
🤔
Another i see the new season is it's a new whole way to play, a way to see it is the more you practice with the dive ability, the more comfortable you are, the same way people acted when encountering krills and eden for the first time then the more they played, they got more skilled at it. Even as a beta tester, the new season quests scared me but once i repeated the 4th quest, i got more confident so ye 
I adored Assembly for it's multiplayer quests, it was new and different. As much as i love season of flight especially the wind tunnel and new shortcuts. It is refreshing to actually have new content and gameplay mechanics especially with the new season.
they won't scrap something they worked on for months, its a huge waste of effort
@timid bough I know. I know the time and effort that goes into development. I was just saying how I felt. I, personally… my own opinion.
Hi everyone , hope everyone have a great day
I see 🤔
Not saying that solo seasons are bad or anything but it is nice to see the devs find new gameplay mechanics each season. Imagine if a future season added like drivable mantas? Manta racing
/j
I dislike how fast the breathing meter goes down and personally thinks it takes away from the environment because you do hone in on the breathing meter more than look around (at least I do), but I love the idea of implementing new mechanics otherwise the game night get stale. As for moving and navigation while diving, it's a little rough, but I feel like it could still improve. There is no rule to the devs coming back to polish it if they release it to live and it gets loads of feedback.
This is nice concept ngl
Yeah too fast and sometimes u can't find the place right ? U will facing lost wing problem , if u get what I mean
I do agree with the diving meter draining too fast still. Maybe if it drained slower. And if the ult gave more time (at least double the time instead of a measly 10 sec) it might be a little better. I probably will skip this AP too cuz the cosmetics aren't my fave anyways
I remember the ultimate reward mask don't give u long oxygen benefits right ?
10 seconds
Tbh i really think its just a matter of.
I don’t think skill is the right word. Experience?
Idk that could also just be me
But personally i can still enjoy the scenery well in Treasure Reef
Even with the breath meter being as short as it is
Just swim around a lot and u get a better grip for the controls
At least for me, once again 
Also knowing where certain things are like
Light blooms is REALLY helpful
If you memorize the locations u can go to them when you’re in a pinch
🤔
another factor is how willing you are to lose a wing light.... personally i don't care if i lose some but some people do treat it as a wing light lost as a trip to the black room
Actually , for some players who lazy to find wings , this is very crucial ngl
But is OK anyways is in beta not live
Even with experience I think controls are wonky. I've been playing the diving controls since day one of abyss beta was released and still find them difficult to navigate. I hope they improve in the future.
Also lol for a player like me who just got to 11th wedge in live losing wl is crucial for me. I am at 158 full run so I get nervous around stuff that makes me lose wl.
Yeah this tru , still can control it well but is quite tricky IMO
what if instead straight losing winglight when out of oxygen, they took our wings flaps one by one, so like we have more time to go find plants to recharge
I'm pretty sure majority of players will not farm candles in that place once it comes to live
You can easily dodge a krill than swimming to the right direction underwater
i like the idea of your wing draining when you run out of oxygen
instead of just STRAIGHT to losing a WL
it feels so wrong having a WL pop out when you're not even extinguished
it really should work more like darkwater imo
it feels a little TOO punshing the way ti is now
though i remember it being because they wanted it to be equally explorable between vets/moths
There's definitely going to be a flood in genchat about it being too hard for moths and more casual players
even for moths, they'd need to finish eden once to even have access to the area
PLUS whatever wingbuffs they might've bought in eden and WL they picked up
its not unfair to have a buffer on WL
since there's a big ol fat 20 requirement for eden to start, they already know the places of SEVERAL wl, enough to get a few wedges
Probably , if they can add more flower , I think this won't he too much issues
But they just add way too less I also having trouble to explore and is not very fun to explore ngl
there also need to be some more guiding for players. for people who already knew where to go its easy but if you dont, theres really.... nothing showing you the objective
and the honk
only show u p if oure already close enought o objective
Yeah , is tru
most peopel dont even know about the honk
on top of that
since it's only ever been used on spirits/general "this way to proceed to eden"
But is fun to explore urself , just the flower ... 😭
more recharge places is a DEFINITE need
Yeah
Thinking about the area now, not having been there for a while, I don't even feel a particular urge to go back and explore beyond the stuff I felt obliged to do as a tester (spirits, quests). The area has no appeal to me whatsoever. It's uneventful on the surface and too dangerous to explore under water for too long. It also reminds me too much of Journey, which is not what I'm looking for in Sky.
while there are more than enough charge plants if you already know your route and can gswim quickly between them
theyre so far apart for people who don't know the locations
more of those bubble areas would be nice
ugh that reminds me i still have to go back and open the 4 player vault door. i do NOT feel like clipping through that again its so hard on mobile
I find if confusing that there are areas where our oxygen does not deplete, and then suddenly it's gone in a second.
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
What, skybot? 
Is location of seashells random?
I was attempting to make the map, but it seems like the locations are keep shifting 
They have been having fixed locations as per my observation
Hot take, but I'm actually in the opposite boat for treasure reef. I love the lack of plants, it makes a very nice challenge as opposed to golden wasteland that were accustomed to, and eden which we only visit for more ascended candles. I'd love to keep visiting the location due to such a unique and new gameplay mechanic being added. True, it does prevent a bit more exploration, but there isn't much to explore outside the intended quests anyway, such as the rooms behind the buildings and arches deep underwater. Like they're simply facades. Sure it's scary, but that's what makes it exciting. It's what makes it memorable, especially in relation to the tranquil reef near the surface
I'm curious to see what the last quest will be, afaik we've collected all the diamonds underwater 
maybe there’s a secret area somewhere they haven’t made available yet
given how much the map changed with quest 4’s reset I think it either has the potential to be big or to just involve the creatures somehow
Maybe we'll make a krill shooting laser will all those diamonds we've collected 
We’ll form a giant robot just to pet and hold the Leviathan
You mean like the one roaming around in the Office?
I hope it's an Enchantment like thing, final quest makes the entire place nice and vibrant like it was before they removed so much stuff
Maybe it will be a alternate ending: the giant creatures eats everyone
The end
Reward for completing the final quest: the entire area drains of water and we watch on as all the wildlife is dragged screaming down a toilet flush whirlpool 
I’ve been visiting Treasure Reef to collect seashells since Monday, but the locations were slightly different 🤔
Or the routine might be rotating in week interval?
- a few shells didn’t seem to be changing though
Plot twist: they just fly away since aquatic wildlife in Sky doesn't need water as we see krill, jellyfish, whales, manta, etc living with us above water. 
Henlo does someone knows when black and white capes lv2 will be relased in live game?🥺 (Im waiting them from long time >.<)
When will the season of abyss be in live?
We unfortunately don’t have an ETA for either of those
Is that the name of the next season?
hey do we know how many friends the new constellation layout lets us see/holds? (if it's still going ahead)
you can find it somewhere in beta updates if you scroll far enough. should be around or before testing for 0.16.0 began
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
When is the chinese new year event coming?
It already ended in beta
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
There's a reef???
i think you answered your own question...
That’s new seasonal area in beta
Yeah they rotate
I hope the last quest returns Rudolf
Happy new year beta testers 🗓️
Happy new year!
Happy new year (。・ω・。)ノ♡
Happy new years beta testers ! 🎉
May we fill more bug jars and beta test in the future and beyond 
happy new year 
here's to 0.16.5, 0.17.0, 0.17.5, 0.18.0 and so on
Happy new year also to all my fellow testers
I have a question I don't think it's a problem but I'm here to kind of find out.
Reading through Beto stuff I don't see any age requirements to jump out at me but I know that Sky requires you to be nine years old
This last week I have encountered a player that is a very much moffs in beta. That claims to be an eight-year-old.
They're not doing anybody any harm but I just think this is really unusual and want to get feedback on it. An eight-year-old in beta. !???
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As long as they're not doing harmer hacking I don't mind that I'm also wondering how confident they can fill out a report and if they do and if they don't isn't that keeping a real tester from improving the system?
And that wasn't any help thanks a lot bot
I'm already in Beta
It is really the parents' responsibility if they allow a child to play an online multiplayer game, but I would advise to tell this supposed child to not give away any such information in the future. None of us need to know anyone else's age, name or location to be able to play together. As for why they are in beta, who knows? Maybe they lied about their age, or they just didn't understand what they were downloading?
And since beta has no contract or nda tied to it, there is no real regulation on what age a tester can be. I know that there are a lot of underage players in beta of varying ages. Although if they happened to get in beta through the discord, discord has a rule where all users must be 13+
iirc the age restriction on google play is 9+
A child can play games on a parent’s phone, you know. 😉
The age restrictions can be hard to monitor 100% though unless they wanted to require people to verify their identity every time they log on, with proof of an ID or something. There isn't anything really stopping a kid from downloading apps on their devices if their parents haven't set up child restrictions or something
yeah sadly
it relly comes down to whether parents are being responsible/monitoring their kids
these days a lot of parents just hand a kid a tablet and walk away, no safety settings or anything
its more than a little worrying
I didn't real check that out yet thanks
There really isn't any restrictions at all. The best thing you can do in this situation is encourage the kid to not give away their age since that can be dangerous online.
Oh I see
Is it a week interval then?
does anyone know how to switch beta slot from ios device to an android device?...
You wait for a new invite wave
yes, beta cannot be transfer across different devices (iOS <—> Android)
oke then .-. thanks .-.
happy new years beta frens
Happy New Year, dear Beta testers
. Those of you who actually shares their opinion about upcoming things are great people, a significant part of the good moments happen to the game thanks to you
.
And btw no beta updates lately
. Some players said before "we probably won't get new beta updates before New Year". Its NY now, where my updates?
Well, they didn't necessarily mean that there would be updates the instant it becomes the new year, just that they probably wouldn't happen until at least after New Year's. It's a weekend for TGC also, they likely don't come back from their time off until Monday at the earliest (but even then, there may not be an update released on Monday). We just have to wait and see what happens 
devs are humans too and its holidays
patience.... even if they already started working (which clearly they aren't) they aren't obligated to instantly release updates
the devs are also in pacific time, so technically its not the new year here yet 
Is there any annoucement or doc regarding the preorder choice change? Idk i'm curious what the reasons are for it. 
ah ye thanks!
it should only be 7-8PM for devs
It moved a while ago in a past build to gw social hub. It's in #beta-announcements
I kinda don’t get it, they remove it?
Where’s gw social hub?
They moved it to golden wasteland social hub. Enter gw and turn towards the home return pad there it's at the dock there past it.
Oohh okay thank uuu!!✨
Happy new year beta friends! i hope everyone's new year ends up being a really fun and amazing year!
Happy new year 🎆
So once they reset the seasonal candles, are those we collect ourselves gonna stay or be reset with the bugged sc??
Idk if I should collect sc or not
I got 98k+ sc from the bug rn
we can't say anything with 100% certainty, but odds are very high that any candles you collect will be reset as well. that's what happened last time, at least
||AAAAAAA KRILLS GO UNDERWATER AAAAAAAAAAAA AND WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT THING
||
No. The one turtle there was has been removed.
Yeah, that's it I'm not buying ap
I was really hoping they brought the turtle back from the old sky
Rip turtle... He shall be known throughout the kingdom of light...
As the first guide to all children before it was changed
But yeah, imma just not play this season
If it's the same thing with no new creatures or any thing to do I think I might just quit
You don't need an AP in order to play the season. AP is just for cosmetics.
Ik, I'm trying to find motivation, so if I buy the ap, I can't just leave because I put money into the account for the season
But it just doesn't seem worth it
So I take it you're not in beta.
If you don't think it's worth it don't buy. The ults aren't super great imo and for some people (who are capable of patiently waiting for the seasons spirits to come as TS) that's the only reason worth buying, but I do really like the capes so I'm buying so I don't have to wait for TS. Just depends on what your priorities are. If you need to "find the motivation" then chances are you shouldn't buy it yet. I hope you get excited about it if there's future updates. 
Edit: sorry for ping I forgot to turn it off.
Yeah, it might just be burn out, sorry for being a downer 😅
You aren't a downer
you have a valuable opinion just like anyone else and it's perfectly fine to voice it here. 
You can just search up for abyss cosmetics
The new season ultimate cape kinda sucks but I hope they change it just like season of assembly 
the turtle wasn’t the only new creature, there are like two new fish species, a leviathan (or megalodon), along with some new light plants too
although i have to agree, the adventure pass for this season isn’t worth it imo
search leviathan in #beta-screenshots-videos 
This season is terrible for my tholasophobia (I can't remember how to spell it haha)
Thalassophobia
And I feel the same, I’ll just go there to complete the quest and get free hearts and that’s about it
it's such a pretty season though so I'm sad I can't fully appreciate it
Huh, same for me. The more I think about underwater places where you cant see the bottom... The more I like good cozy solid earth
Especially that place with Megalodon, bruh, dont like this feeling
mother of krill, aka Rudolf, aka the Leviathan
is that the fear of large beings? we only see it once, and it disappears after the fourth quest
it's the fear of the deep bodies of water, which you can't really get around if you're planning on doing anything related to abyss 😔
I didn't have Thalassophobia until I saw that creature. I'm rather terrified to dive down into the depths now 
it's not too deep for the most part except for that one place where you get the fourth quest. I took a couple friends there who were afraid, and they did okay when dragged by a friend
i'm not thalassophobic (in fact i'm probably the opposite, i'd spend all my time in the ocean if i could
) but i think the fact that the water's not very deep most of the time is making the 4th quest feel worse since it seems a lot deeper in comparison
also the leviathan probably isnt helping
yeah it does feel deeper
I just wonder how deep we're going to go by the 5th quest
there aren't any structures deeper than those in the fourth quest, so I don't think we're diving any deeper
Was the afk timer removed in beta? Because in live my sky kid is inthe igloo making zzzs but still filling up my candle meter. Im just asking to know if this is a bug or a hidden update
There are two stages of the afk timer, first one you start to send up z and sit down (unless holding a hand or so) and second stops you from getting wax, makes you send z at a higher frequency and makes lou lie (is that how you spell it? I always forget, sorry) down.
I entered stage 2 in beta earlier today (though didn't check at a wax spot for whether I collect wax).
How long does it take to get to the second stage? Because ive been in the igloo for about 20 mins
I'm not sure, I think I somewhere heard it's 10 minutes of constantly being inactive (not tapping the screen, or just typing on the keyboard) for stage 2, and about 2 minutes for stage 1
Though I might have outdated information here, and I don't know how reliable my source is (as I don't remember that source), so while I think it should be around the correct times, it might be not completely exact.
Alright ill be testing some more and see if ill still collect wax after around 40 mins of inactivity
@drowsy fiber so upon further testing, it seems the afk timer only works after 30 minutes of activity. I wouldve thought it was as soon as you make zzzs
It's the fear of the deep ocean. I've always had this fear, even in video games. I might have to just have a friend drap me during this quest. I haven't tested it in beta yet (not sure I even still have access I had sky burn out lol)
oof. that's a terrible phobia to have for season of abyss. hope you're able to enjoy it without being triggered!
I still have access!
I'll need to go ahead and test. If there is any issues maybe tgc can add a way for people like me to play without fear?
do we have a name for the big cucumber thing yet
The eel?
im thinking of the bigger scarier one but now im also curious what the eels name is
What if the mother krill isn’t bad though?
is it actually confirmed to be a krill?
it looks so different and also its eyes are always red instead of blue
Leviathan, mother of krill, and lovingly Rudolf among the testers here 
Nice
Yay, Sky beta, wooo 🙂
Sanctuary Isle crashes the game 😐
i recall some people saying the bird's nest entrance is broken
flight paths may work though
Darn
Ok so u know why TS just changed in BETA, right?
Here's my facts: To prevent from posting BETA Contents at LIVE chamnels so it'll make a completely difference
I kinda just thought it was for
s and giggles among the tgc staff
Or they felt like it
ORRR alternatively they might be trying to test new visuals
Cus i swear the spirits looked a bit diff when they came in live
This is just wild baseless conspiracy
Live and beta get ts at the same time so beta players didn't knew the ts in advance even before the ts were changed
Idk I don’t think its worth
Worrying abt 
The ts are different, a chance to get my beloved Playfighting Herbalist hair 
the tses suddenly restarted from days of summer, it's probably just a glitch 
It’s not, one of the devs confirmed it
Ts in beta doesn't matter because beta wasn't supposed to have ts at the beginning 
oh? wild 
I really guess they just felt like it 
Absolutely v i b r a t i n g in my seat to get a new beta update 
(||also ik the devs are people and need a break and time to recuperate I'm just excited to test again||)
me too, i’m looking forward to the next one :]
does anyone know when we will be able to buy the next season pass?
When the season starts.
Yeah, preorder has discontinued
Unfortunately, due to changes to update procedures and scheduling, once Season of Flight concludes we will no longer be able to offer Adventure Pass preorders for future seasons.
Here's all we got from #news
https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/a/sky-children-of-the-light/?p=all&l=en&s=patch-notes&f=patch-notes---november-18-2021---0-15-5-179535-ios-179644-android-179482-switch-1637266164
oh thanks a lot
I think the repeat of the ts is due to the recent invite wave, to allow newcomers to test new cosmetics with the repeat ts items
No, it isn’t. It’s a scheduling issue, because we’re supposed to be focusing on testing the new season. TS is not important to test in beta.
Oh that makes sense
Beta was never for us. It’s for the devs to catch bugs and features not working properly.
we're always at the mercy of the devs here in beta,
thats what we signed up for when we decided to become beta testers
being able to test the new things is already a reward
“At the mercy of the devs” sounds hilarious
I haven't been able to update the beta in a few updates because I no longer have space. I keep trying to make space though because I want to keep being a tester.
Valley elders temple in beta now has lost the pink hues. 
Does anyone know what the idle wax collection spots are in beta? I don’t have the energy to log in and search for the ones that aren’t available in live rn.
beta only ones rn are in brook and vault floor 4
Thank you!
Hey this is kind of a stupid question, but what is the new season called? 
Season of Abyss
Oooooo this might be my favorite season yet....loving the cosmetics. Might have to spend some money
Where is this located? Like which world? Sorry if I'm asking too many questions...im just curious 
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
Golden wasteland is where it's at. You can take a boat to the area from the social hub to arrive there :)

Its January 2nd, but devs are still ppl and have their right for rest, and we dont have any Beta update
I honestly like the gaps between beta updates. It gives me a break from the game
Final quest is in 20 something day 
Any predicts for upcoming beta update?
In 2023
I-
Yes.
Do u think they gonna change the ult mask again?
I’m uncertain, most likely no
There are deadlines to be met, lately I’ve been noticing a huge focus on cosmetic changes & reviews. Could be just me, though
The thing is I don’t really care about cosmetics and ults, I’ve been looking for game lore but they stated in latest qna that people want it and that they’re aware of it now so
Next season pls🤞
For example season of flight has hands down the best visuals but the story (lore) was not existent
Different people work on different seasons, whoever worked on abyss lore must get a raise 
They seem to like leaving the lore kind of vague and letting the players connect the dots and come up with their own interpretations. Abyss does have some lore with it, but it seems like it would be more obvious to people who are already somewhat aware of the theories surrounding the power diamonds. Otherwise it just kind of seems like we're collecting rocks for some reason
Wasteland's whole vibe is dark so expect seasons and seasonal cosmetics to follow the theme
Honestly it's kinda out of tone that almost all the golden wastelands season's are lighthearted
It would be cool if just one season was a place where It was eden levels of corruption
Maybe
The lore definitely isn’t lighthearted though 
But i see what you mean location wise??? Ark isn’t very. Special at the beginning until you get all the lights
It’s just a boring desert
Which IS exactly what wasteland is
It is sort of cool that we kinda heal the wasteland
A season like this would def be cool though
Also in the forest at the fireplace I'll post a photo in screenshots and vids page
Dark is ok, but why making it unappealing
What's unappealing to you and me might be favorite for someone else, there are many themes and styles and not every one of them has to be appealing to everybody
As always if you have suggestions you can send them in #beta-feedback
Might be. But i dont see anyone who like ults neither here nor in #beta-season-test-chat
i do 🤨
but sure it could use some improvements
Am I the only one who likes the ult cape?
I am wondering if this is something which needs to be reported.
When I am with my friend I'm most likely to be with (X), there are two spots where the servers split us and no matter what, we can't be on the same server. The constellation at Home says that X can join us, but they always get put on a different server. Those places are the bird's nest in Prairie, and the new islands for the Abyss season. Tonight I tried doing this along with two other friends as well. Those two friends stayed with me, but X still split.
Has anyone else had something like this happen?
I had this happen with a friend where they couldn’t join me while I was in abyss. I mean, they would tp but end up in a separate server. When we took the boat together, we would arrive in different servers. This friend is really scared of the deep water and needed my help to finish a quest, too, so that was a major bummer
Should my friend and I both report this, then? That is exactly what is happening to me.
Always report anything abnormal
I would die for blanket cape
I have to admit; I have been working so hard on learning how to swim and also trying to find things to report that I have gotten only one of the spirits. With what is going on, I might wait until the next update to go for them to see if other stuff is fixed first.
We shall not fulfill cosmetics requests (see pins) but you can lurk in #beta-screenshots-videos and hopefully you'll find what you're looking for. The season is not so far to start in live tho!
Sorry if it sounded like an outfit request! I was just curious is the side braid reaches on top of your head or not. My bad! Thank you!
omg i ignored the meditation at first cuz i thought it was just a home shrine so i was so confused and frustrated in the new area cuz i couldnt dive
Mildly concerned regarding the in-game countdown…thinking about the ‘floor is lava’ thing back in Prophecy
I trust the devs though
hoping this means a longer interseason of sorts
I haven't been on beta in a short while. Was our Abyss cosmetics progress revoked when they fixed the seasonal candle bug?
We haven't even had an SC wipe yet... Looks at my 7 digit SC count
idk. I just really don’t want anything to go horribly wrong
pleeease prioritise these. please
Afaik the bug hasn't even been fixed yet. They'd wipe out candles when it was fixed
i just wanna get into the next beta wave ;-;
I was asking because people in beta screenshots are saying to report anyone who has the ultimate, but I got everything unlocked on day one of the season because of the candle glitch.
I was asking about the cosmetic progress only, not the candles.
It's not a problem that people have the Abyss ults you get with the pass, so no need to report anyone wearing those. Definitely report anyone wearing the mask at the top of the quest tree, though, as no one should be able to get that until the fifth quest is released
we were referring to the IGC mask at the top of the quest giver tree, not the ultimate 
I feel a big overhaul coming (at least my prediction)
Me too
nice Sparkler icon btw - spirit icon gang
Just out of curiosity, what kind?
Textdump me if needed im going to grandma’s in live
Sorry 
floor is lava is pretty fun tho 
whatever happens when the countdown ends before anything gets updated is not really their priority to avoid in beta
its different for live however
Hi everyone how's beta life
havent been on beta in a hot second, mostly due to my current Sky burnout
Wait wha , is very normal isn't it , why need report since is beta
Because people are known for exploiting the beta by hacking it to unlock everything.
I had asked if they did a cosmetic reset because the candle glitch allowed me to unlock the entire season on day one, and I saw people saying to report those who have everything.
no need to report players with seasonal cosmetics, unless they’re wearing the IGC mask which is not available yet
for one, thats kinda dumb; for two, i did buy everything from the spirits apart from the ults
in case like,, an ult change happened (to which it did)
still have enough sc but thats about it

not sure if that bug’s ever been fixed but i assume its a hard no at this point
thats afaik
I see
you do?
congrats
don't be afraid of reporting,
if you're innocent then its completely fine
if not then you're toast
oh is there a node at the top of the tree showing now?
THIS. devs dont just ban on sight, they check thoroughly to make sure people aren't being reported mistakenly (or maliciously. yeah there are people who do that)
What do y'all think about the cosmetics of the abyss season? Im very curious with your opinion!!

i see pants and cute spirit
i go 💳 💥 💳 💥 💳 💥 💳 💥 💳 💥
I like the Boatswain/Shipwright's jacket-cape, but probably not enough to actually break away from my usual look. Otherwise, nothing really jumps out at me too much aside from maybe the Cannoneer's mask (should probably also mention that I'm more interested in new instruments or interactive props rather than stuff to be worn)
i'm a sucker for braids and i'm always open to more facial hair so i'm pretty excited for abyss
i'd've preferred the beards to be neck accessories so i can wear them with whatever hair and mask i want (imagine the captain's beard on the bat mask
) but i doubt tgc'll ever use the neck slot for anything that doesn't actually go on your neck 😔
Helluu everyone
Is gifting 10 seasonal candles comming to live?!
Or it was a bug
It was a bug, it was supposed to be 14 candle for 5 hearts like last time
Tysm
Can't but maybe can understand 🤔
@cosmic orchid I am half new on beta (๑•̀ㅂ•́)و✧
i really enjoy the muted colours of the pallette of the cosmetics. its grungy and i love it.
my favs are the Shipswain’s cape and the ult cape. the former bc its a pretty coat cape and the second bc of the wine red colour (and the star shape being the Abyss seasonal emblem)
not a node, but an in-game currency mask was added to the quest giver tree a while ago, and will be unlocked only when the final quest for the season begins. See a visual reference:
#beta-screenshots-videos message
loving the new cosmetics, absolutely love that i can fully cosplay as anxious angler :)
I think anxious angler is the first spirit to have a true complete outfit
Since postman + juggler were missing hair or mask and light whisperer only had the hair accessory
hey beta chat
as a non-beta player I wanted to ask if the krill underwater damage sky kids
because im scared that i'll come back and have some major problems with the area
WAIT NO ILL ACTUALLY DIE
panik
when it comes out I'll request ubers so that I will not have as many problems with my heart rate quintupling
Hello
Is it me you’re looking for?
I like that they have a traditional look but can go with other cosmetics, unlike flight. The new pants fit any cape, but especially the blue colored ones. The capes are awesome and varied, and there’s 4 of them plus the ult
There’s one krill that doesn’t attack you, but the others do. It’s pretty easy to hide from them tho
Idk about you but I've been krilled almost every single time I pass them because my diving is still wonky and I panikk

me too! but its not because my diving, its the controls that hard, i need to move my camera to look behind but you need to face your camera forward to swim forward 
Sol, which krill doesn't attack you?
The one that’s released in the fourth quest with Rudolf. It circles that area by itself
I just hide behind the nearest column, that always works
Even if I don’t see it
If no place to hide, stick to the nearest wall/ceiling (if any) to regain your WL easily
How to obtain qualification
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Would we be able to get the link hair during the anniversary by any chance🤔
On beta? Nay
I don't know how to apply
please read #beta-faq from top to bottom, all you need to know is compiled in there
Switch beta testing concluded a long time ago, therefore the chances are slim to none.
I’m no longer crashing entering sanctuary from bird nest. not sure when this was fixed since I’ve been using the wind paths as part of my normal run anyway
How often will the official issue invitations
if you read the frequently asked questions channel you will find out how to see the invites channel. you will also know that invites are issued on an as-needed basis, and do not have a schedule
currently beta is closed
OK, thank you. I'll take a closer look
Oh, I see
I didn't look carefully
Thank you for your kind help
I haven’t been on beta for awhile, can I ask what happened to the friend constellation?
v2 caused crashed upon viewing so it was reverted back to the old one temporarily
Hey all, I hope y'all had a lovely past few weeks! 
I'm following up on the fireworks display that took place from december 5th-8th. Did anyone manage to collect Light from the light particles that appeared during the show?~~ (it's okay to @ me when you reply to this) I have to run to some meetings so I won't be monitoring chat/may miss your response if you do not ping me.~~ thanks everyone who took the time to respond 
During the Gratitude dance show off? No, not at all. It does look like its being collected but the candle meter never goes up
Has that floating island with the seat and a few candles above Cave of Prophecy been taken out?
A friend and I flew all over that cloud tunnel and couldn't find it.
Did you finish all the quests for prophecy?
The fireworks show at the end of the dock did not add to the candle meter. It had the animation of wax, but nothing increased in either of the two testing windows.
It only triggered the candle meter to appear but the light wasn’t collecting
still there for me
even without collecting light I think the show was pretty beautiful
would be okay to just have the dragon wax imo. as long as its clear you aren’t supposed to receive any ofc
Yeah, I found it kind of unnecessary since you’re more focused on the show, you’d have to leave the show to actually collect the light
Hey! Happy new year!
I hope you had some good rest 
The fireworks show was beautiful. It triggered the candle meter appearing but never added to the candle. Tested it through several builds.
I never got any adding up to the meter either from the firework, but i liked the show too.
Interestingly the fireworks wax from the rockets dropped by the dragon did add to candle.
Hello Ktjn, have a happy new year 2022 you too! For the fireworks, it was great, though the candlemeter appeared but didn't rise, or only very rarely maybe, unless I remember wrongly (kind of like when you're at the geyser but reached your limit of that day). But the things the dragon threw worked.
maybe because those were brought back from last year?
new wax methods seems to have difficulty registering given the treasure reef wax didn't for so long
Hello. Yeah, same as others. The candle appeared as if it would start accumulating but it never did.
Last year they were orbs on the ground but yeah, maybe they are the same wax 
Hmm nope! I didn't get any wax from the fireworks 
so im not a beta user but i check this channel bc i need to know, but like the fact me and several other people in this server have talked about pirate cosmetics in detail before and theyre coming to sky icould not be more happy rn like-
None for me.
@kindred fossil I had done all of those Prophecy quests. Could I maybe not see it because my two friends I was with had only done one of them? They were in beta then, but didn't play much beta because of being busy IRL. They are active now.
I appeared like the wax was being collected but the candle meter wasn’t going up
I couldn't get it either. I was able to attract light particles, but candle meter didn't go up.
It should appear just fine on your end regardless of friend’s progress, unless that was changed recently. It could also be a loading error, iirc that rock appears after completing the Earth Trial, try rewatching the Prophecy cutscenes, etc
It is sorted out now. I reset and joined them after they did all trials, see it fine now.

Wow never knew this season is gonna be on live so soon 2 more weeks and we’re just ready
Happy New Year! Did you enjoy the holidays?
I'm the same as everyone else too. Wax was never added to the meter.
how do you know(?)
there is nothing in #news regarding when the season starts
There is a notification on the loading screen of the app which says when the season starts.
Yeah and somehow I was the one who noticed a week ago and I accidentally screamed
that countdown is a bit sketchy
considering the last patch notes said there shouldn't be one 
best wait for official confirmation
that being said, I think it's pretty realistic since this would be the longest ever season break if the countdown is correct 
because the game countdown is generally inaccurate and we shouldn't be seeing it in the first place, it's best not to rely on something that could be a bug and wait for an official announcement, as well as take any unsettled information with a grain of salt. 
several grains of salt, even 
Mountains, if you will
wait... did we ever get the last update notes for beta?
Hey cmon y’all the tgc needs rest during the holidays at least don’t we need some breaks at least
Hm…?
compared to the usual ~150-200 jump in build number this one was only around 60, changes were probably minor enough to justify not having any notes
We’re not even sure what’s gonna be the final version for the season
Since im kinda new to beta testing and stuff, what is this barrier that requiers you to wear either a "-" cape or a "+" cape? Is this supposed to be like that? Can you aquire the capes?
I couldn't find any information on where exactly is the Season located so i wanted to ask, is this the entrance of the seasonal location?
Sorry, i have nowhere else to ask that but here
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
that's in live, it's not seasonal stuff. that's the entrance to the Nintendo area, you get the capes from buying the Nintendo IAP pack on the switch
essentially this, the only change in the build was one particular crash fix
Ah! Now that we're back from the holidays, here are the long-awaited details you've been waiting for 
Changes to this update include:
🔹 Bug fixes and improvements!
@vapid briar you stole my thunder 
More info pls 
Okay.
🔹 At least one but not exceeding one million bug fixes and improvements

ah hello welcome back staff! hope you enjoyed ur break ❤️
Hi, you guys know how the tier two white cape was in beta for more than a year now? So I was wondering, has the white cape got removed from beta? Like how come they still haven’t released it :/
Thanks, and I hope everyone's 2022 is off to a good start, too!
thanks everyone for responding!
We're gonna partially enable the fortune event so our internal QA can run some extra tests to help us narrow down some details regarding this issue. there will not be a new build for this so Light collection will still be broken.
That's a good thing 
Man I always feel happy when bugs are fixed
🤔
yes, it's a known bug that hasnt been fixed yet
Seasonal candles? Yes. There was a widespread bug causing you to get lots of them...
Oh
So I might be going crazy but has the gratitude dock ever risen from the ground in home?
scroll up a bit for ktjn's message on it here
i never seen the dock taking off before
Has there been a change in the tiger mask since they made it more white?
as far as i remember, the color change was the only change made to the tiger mask since the start of testing
Ah ok someone must have edited a picture of the mask and posted it to Instagram then 😂 I fell for it
Hello, could anyone please try the following:
- set Sky to italian language
- send a friend the 5 hearts package
- check which language the confirmation message is in
I'm playing in german and it gives me something in italian...
I m italian so i should try 🙂
Its been a while since the last update
That bug happened long ago it was pretty hilarious
it's almost like the studio closed for 2 weeks for the holidays 
I have some questions... I saw a user with a Zelda hair pulling out a bonfire in beta. Only switch users can have Zelda hair, right? But there's no beta on the switch. What happend at that user? And having a bonfire in beta means that he/she've been doing beta since the belonging season?
During beta testing for the switch, the switch pack was available for all testers. Bonfire means playing for long or using a spell, I'd say. As far as I know, Bonfire was available without doing forbidden things.
uh oh, we'll get that fixed in the next update. thanks for pointing it out! (when you see translation-related issues like that it's best to report it in #beta-feedback so we can get the information over to the right dev more quickly than submitting a bug report through the normal channels, this only applies to translations though, please continue to submit all other bug reports like normal)
Thank you Ktjn, I'll try to keep that in mind. Should I still report?
mobile players on beta had access to the nintendo pack for testing purposes, and bonfire could be obtained through normal gameplay.
naw since i was looking in chat for something else i just messaged the dev directly with it, so we've already got it fixed.
Thank you!
Ohh i see!! thanks! I almost misunderstood him/her for a hacker. 😳
Excuse me, how long will the next test invitation be?😋
when they need more
Will the test qualification be invited from time to time?
Yes but its on an as needed basis
And we got an invite wave recently so another one probably isnt coming for a bit
does beta get to see the travelling spirits early?
Thank you!
actually, beta gets the TS from months back lmao
so Live gets early TS
Any hints about the TS?-
Beta and live aren't even on the same TS schedule right now, so no there won't be any hints from here
the the whole constellation menu update at home looks gross 🤢 go back to the old one pls
Can't wait for the art update on new constellation
its not tuesday yet 😔
tomorrow
I thought it was Tuesday today! The hey hey!!
feel free to #beta-feedback
it's worth noting that this is only the first iteration of the constellation, so it's very simple for the purpose of being there just as placeholder graphics to test with
it'll very likely have proper graphics when its ready to release to live
which is still a while aways!
It's ok ♥️ 
With Days of Fortune testing being turned back on, the 5 hearts for 14 candles is now available in the friendship constellation. This wasn’t in the prior beta builds. This gift must be done in person. Its at the piggyback/carry node, so much higher than last year. There are also free paper boat and firework spells in the box on the non-existent dock at home.
Ooohh
i was just really thrown back by it thanks for explaining 
saying its gross without elaborating why is also kinda counterintuitive especially when the constellation is gonna get revamped anyways, something where feedback is very welcome
Yeah
From ash: this week’s ts is ||never shy around new people||
A quick question. Is looking for few heart trade people against the rules? I asked in #beta-looking-for-group and got warning from a bot(but it says IAP so I am bit confused) thank you!
@harsh vessel, soliciting and offering currency or trades is against the rules in this server. Please edit or remove your message.
Got this. Thank you🙏
Actually it’s the second, and it’s even more broken than the first
oh did i miss an update? or did it happen before i joined
or do you mean the second constellation overall? i meant the first iteration for the NEW constellation 
hello?
hi
First overhaul was around October, not sure if you catch that or not
With Days of Fortune dock reactivated, it got me thinking (it's not even related to the fireworks wax or the dock lol)
.
Humor me this, say if Days of Fortune 2021 Ox Mask were to return this year's Fortune Event, how come 1st Year Anniversary Hat did not return? I mean their logic for not reselling 1st Yr Hat was "you only turn 1 once" but shouldn't that also apply to an item celebrating a 2021 only event?
This is not me saying they shouldn't resell Ox Mask but for 1 Yr Hat to be and/or should've been resold way back last 2nd Yr Anniversary Event.
Sorry for wall of text, I was just curious.
Aight, I'll scooch and end this TED Talk 
Iirc it was not the only one example that some items don't return in next year's events.

FYI the friend's constellation returned back to the updated version.. no more old version
Hmm, the ox mask returning would make sense, considering year of the ox doesn't just happen once. Don't the animals cycle through ? Or is that not the case-
people keep throwing rocks at the new constellation when it's not even finished yet, it also has so many things it could improve on
Zodiac do recycle... 12 years once
The animals of the Chinese Zodiac do recycle...once every 12 years 
Having them only appear during their respective year would be kinda murder
once every 12 years, that's ouch
POV : you're waiting 12 years for the ox mask and dismiss still hasn't arrived/j
The thing is Ox Mask & 1st Yr Hat were symbolic, in a way that it celebrates a specific something (I don't even know which word to use lol
)
I guess, ox mask would return cause "it doesn't happen just once"
While the 1st anniversary hat doesn't because, well, "you only turn 1 once"
Also the ox mask is requested moreso than the anniversary hat
I think it’s like the ultimate gift, to reward the players who were actually there when the event took place. They were there for the 1 year anniversary so only they should have the hat(imo)
Gosh my spelling-
It's true however it should be noted that the rocks thrown are not only because of the constellation, but because of the 'whole package' how new things come to live in a severely bugged (or - if communicated as intentional - very inconvenient) way. Considerably less people asked for a full rework than just more friends capacity and even more people wish for fixing long time bugs that all players meet everyday. Seeing the whole picture people's early judgements and concerns are more than understandable. 
The boat no longer translated :')
Hey, I still want at least a variant of the party hat or a recolour if the first one can't ever come back -- I still have other friends' birthdays to celebrate 

We should steal the golden ones from krills 
Yes I’m also bummed the translations of boat messages are gone again
I don’t suppose they’re gone forever, the translation were really wonky & caused misunderstandings from the few screenshots I’ve seen 
The translations are wonky in general lol
Yes but they were super wonky 
It is. Just as Ultimates, but for some reason ultimates do not return (yet).
I saw they changed valley oob, ;-;
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
Y'all, where is the new seasonal area ;w;
I can't find it anymore
those reasons happen to be much heavier so....
as per usual a huge amount of requests won't always net an approval as it will always go through subsets of reasons and factors
as for the anniversary hats they are more so a celebratory gift (they cost little) celebrating the milestone of another year to the game's lifespan refering to the "you only turn 1 once" compared to something more of a cosmetic product with similar theming that celebrates a celebration (which isn't just about the zodiac) that happens every year for eternity until civilization on earth collapses or something akin to the end of the world
unless TGC are cosmic beings i guess 
It was stated in #beta-announcements that the boat has moved to social area.
Also it's nice to read beta updates as a tester so you'll know what to test. 
Ahhh thank you 
I've been pretty inactive these past weeks
Why back the constellation?
the new design started crashing the game so they went back to the old design for the time being 
No it's the new design again. I don't like the new fesign
oh that means they fixed the bug
it's not even done yet, if you tell tgc what you don't like about it in #beta-feedback then they can make it better
It's too difficult to see.. Who has lights and who not.... And so mu h clicks and swipes..
Yeah..
don't think the new const will make it to live for at least 3 months given what they've said about it previously, and the weight such a change would have. there'll be plenty of time to change it and submit feedback I'm sure
i wish they would just give us a search function 😔 like having all these new individual constellations is nice but they're useless if i can't find the people i wanna put in them
How about this one... I send to tgc. But I want to know your opinions..
How about a option to see online friends list in every realm? To warp to friend from every realm, instead of going first at home?
in a way homespace is supposed to act like a menu
It's an awesome idea, I wonder if they could make it live up to date tho as users may change realms and syncing up to 140 users is a big thing 
This isn't really beta content. Perhaps you could write it up in #live-feedback or even #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
since I don't see this said much.
I love the new constellation 
I love it too
Has it changed back to v2.1 or is there a new change?
it looks like it has even less space for friends
Me too! I like the new constellation. I’m so excited to see the changes TGC will make to it. Remember y’all can go to control settings to add the swipe feature 
Me as well. I think it will minimize the clutter we currently have in the live game. What i mean by "clutter", the alleviation of having to constantly refresh the game and scroll through the constellation for friends we've not been able to locate via the friendship menu.
I was expecting for some changes in new season cosmetics but it's only 13 days left in live version:((
To Ritz: Oh definitely! And if you’re one of those folks that uses the blocking system to locate more friends, it actually works in this new constellation which makes me so happy.
The remaining days countdown has often proven to be inaccurate. Let's wait until #news announcement. The same applies to the heart pack, let's wait the final version and its announcement, everything can change from beta 
It works like the normal candle gift, just fot 14 candles and it gives 5 hearts. Also it's higher in the tree than normal ones, and seems to be for Days of Fortune (as it got reactivated yesterday and was confirmed the heart gift should have been there when Days of Fortune was there first time). Similar to the one we got last Days of Fortune/Love.
But as Tib said, anything might change, best to wait for official confirmation.
I see! Thank You for explaining it to me jenna

You're welcome
Last year for Days of Fortune there was this info: For the duration of the event, players who unlocked the double-five expression with a friend were able to give them a gift of 5 hearts once per day by meeting them in-game and spending 14 candles.
yeah no i joined last wave so def missed it
although rare, we have had instances where cosmetics that already went live got small changes. the enchantment ult turban got that treatment. anything is possible
This different friend constellation is better, but I still don't like it. For me, on my phone and iPad, I have trouble seeing if a friend needs to be lit or not. The difference isn't big enough, especially on my phone. Couldn't they make the icons a little larger than those dots?
It was said art wasn't final yet, and I'm certain that it's possible they make the icons bigger (whether TGC will do it or not is up to them, they have many things to consider I assume). It would be best to leave feedback about having difficulties with seeing who is lit, if you haven't done yet, as the devs won't necessarily see your post in this channel.
I am going to leave feedback, I wanted to ask here if it is maybe a problem on my devices and it is better for other people.
i have issues telling what each dot means, but that's mostly because of just how minimalistic the constellation is. i think it definitely needs some more work to make it clear what each node means
Personally, I don't have many difficulties with it, worst for me is that the endless swiping from one page to the next feels bad still. But I have so little friends, and even less who light me or who collect my light, that even if I'm unsure,it's not a great deal to open all the nodes manually and check. Design-wise I don't like it that much, it feels somehow unfinished and also unfitting, but that's personal preferences.
i have more friends than even this new constellation can hold in beta, and it's quite tedious to try and find anyone, and then i have to figure out if i lit them or not. but at least the online tab lets me filter out who i can join. i'm just not a fan of overly minimalistic designs. it doesn't quite fit with the rest of the game's ui
I really enjoyed having the old constellation back with just more people showing. I gave more light and got more. Now it’s back to ghost town. It too tedious to try to decipher if they lit or not and if there are people I missed
That is how I feel too, Holla. Maybe something that combines the two (keep the icons, give special area for online friends) would be more practical.
I don't like that yet with the constellation customization we got another limitation by animal and other theme constellations. I liked the amorphous arrangement of friends way more.
Have sent feedback.
Same. I like to share my thoughts to inspire others to feedback too or get thoughts shared so I can get different points of views 
It is great getting to chat with other beta testers here. I have to admit; beta is very sad for me now. Out of all of those friends that I made in 2019, only like three of them still do beta. Even the newer friends are mostly inactive now.
Beta is just like that
Friends,candles, even items can poof
At first I liked the direction. Just thought it needed refinement, But the “improvements” haven’t really fixed anything. Maybe when they change the stars that will change but I think it still a long way off to be live worthy. It’s just gonna make people mad in the form it’s in now
Yeah finding active people kinda eh out there xDD
I don’t really like the swiping in constellations. A bit too jerky maybe? Makes me cringe for some reason. Also the side menu looks out of place.
I've made most of my new and active candle friends at granny. it's really funny when you visit geyser, and then see the exact same group at granny's later. even across several days. beta is more easy to make connections in that sense
As long as they play beta 
I honestly just want to see some kind of hybrid between the live version and the features beta have rn. Moving friends, making specified “groups”. Filtering online friends… but make it more fluid like in live.
I fully agree with you, Dereko.
I’d be absolutely fine with tiny dots we have rn in live but like… freely moving them on the whole “canvas” of the sky so I can decide where they stay so I can find friends more easily
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
On the other side of friends; in the most recent recruitment drives, a ton of trolls and also players who have no idea of what beta testing is have gotten in. The trolls are those that friend and unlock chat, and then demand hearts and block you if you don't. Is there any way to get those kind of players out? I feel bad about reporting them.
I’d report
There's a ton of undeserving people in beta unfortunately
This is the reason why trades forbidden in discord actually, if I’m not mistaken?
Is it because Sky has become so popular that the trolls are so much more likely?
It’s actu sad they took so much free space in beta
trades are disallowed because it has potential to create unmanageable drama with things like scams ya
I know true gamers in live who would be great beta testers, but they haven't been able to get in on any of the recruitment drives this year.
There could be an amazing person who has a special talent of finding bugs and making helpful feedback but they maybe didn’t get in because…. 12 yo trolls…
honestly the thing I am most waiting for in terms of the friend constellation is either an update or fix for the block menu. had to block 100+ ppl just to find someone important and currently you need to unblock one at a time 
Bruh…
I totally agree, misty.
Or people who use beta to replace live as a means of early access
These I do jot appreciate at all
And then they are mad because something was taken away or wiped 
I actually really hate the idea of blocking people… I’d rather remove them and who knows if the live lets us meet again and become friends
But no you have to block id you need space 
Facebook has caused a lot of problems as well. The like count to get heart from boat comments went up to 50 instead of 10 because of those groups of friends that would organise heart farming. I like to be honest and friend meaningful people, so ever since live released I have gotten only two hearts, and those were in 2019. That is why I don't bother to do those boats any more.
I got in by accident because I was drawing late at night
And because I love finding bugs and making someone’s life easier I thought I’d join
Then I say you are a true beta tester, @strong sentinel 
Oh don't even concern yourself with boats and medi, they've lost meaning ages ago. They were destined to become hearts farms regardless
Thank uwu
And actually as frustrating as it is the new system for ht actually makes me be at ease. Just need to get rid of bugs which won’t let friends (long term friends even) to trade
It’s been a little while since I last opened beta, and I can’t find the boat to go to the new area anymore.. can anyone give me a hint?
@civic thunder as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space
it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉
OH
Where is the boat to enter crystal bay?
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
@stoic epoch as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space
it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉
Skybot answering that question is the best thing to ever happen in this channel
I send messages to my crushes 
Aw :'DD
It’s in orbit
they must have changed the "where is the boat" trigger to actually work now
it used to rarely go off
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
I wish it actually answered the question haha
I'm seeing people giving themselves wings at the home space.... 😭
You mean WL bursts?
Ye
As in WL scattering? A kaboom of WL?
Also saw 12 wedges the other day-
You should report them if you’re able to
Sent a picture in another Screenshot chat
Deroko, best you can do is report them in-game and if you can't move on. We are not supposed to give hackers more attention than absolutely necessary, so best is to report and ignore.
Edit: some messages by moderators and staff:
#beta-discussion message
#beta-discussion message
#beta-discussion message
Nah, they flexed and poofed :(
I'm just frustrated because there's too many of them 🤣
Whats the ts for Thursday in beta
a surprise
I'm also curious
server icon change, maybe we'll get a teaser now 
O, nice. Love their emote
Wait ayo??
since the schedule seems to mirror the live schedule from a few months ago shell collector would be the expected ts
OH MY GOD THE TWITTER…
I wonder how the teaser will look like

Abyss is coming 🌝
maybe we can finally share some excitement in #general-sky-discussion once #news drops lol
Beta...
...is abyss announcement coming?
Probably soon
We don't know when tho 🤣
Season of Abyss
Except This isn’t sky anymore and reg and riko appear out of nowhere
Exciting! I hope they give us intros like they did for the flight spirits
curse of the abyss except ur skykid loses wl as u ascend 
Why did i just realize tgc gave us a spoiler on abyss in their server icon before they actually announced a teaser 👁️👁️
Oh woah! I wonder why they changed the icon! exaggerated gasp could it be an underwater season?!? /s
guess the motd countdown is accurate
Itotallydidnothelpbetatestthisseason! Can’t wait! Excited! Hype!
me and the beta tester and lurker boys watching live gang freak out while keeping our secrets
I don’t have a full knowledge
Someone wishing for violin next season:
Beta testers: I'm sorry little one
Live players will be super hyped, so much so that we'll see winged lights flying everywhere
Time to watch the moths freak out
Omg beta testers please tell me more about this new season! It's underwater right? Where? :00 how do we swim
||/j||
Me, someone who has seen beta content: "You will find out soon enough"
We swim like skykids 
genchat gonna be filled with drowning skykids soon
Poor moths, gotta learn flying then swimming!
ngl when I first tested the swimming mechanics I had a hard time trying to control where to go cause i wasn't used to the controls
I only pray for those who have deep sea fears
Shhh it's not called drowning, it's just... a nice warm hug from the ocean. Yeah let's call it that.
The season gave me that fear now.
Oof
Juggler told me Dismiss got a nice warm hug from the ocean 😄 heartwarming
I really want to see live’s reaction to Leviathan
Oh that will be interesting
KSJDJFHDH😭😭
🌚
Dismiss drowned in a puddle 💔
dismiss isnt real and never will be
…at least, that’s what juggler said
It's so cute to see people speculating in cozy and lore! But you double agents
don't hint so hard
Anyway feels so good when everything in sky starting wake up after Christmas slumber 
the pain of trying to stay quiet in cozy is killing me- 
I just lurk in the server
A few more weeks, we're be able to share our lore thoughts!
can you believe it guys? christmas is in a week, christmas! just a week away. it came here so fast! christmas!
my question is
will the leviathan be in the trailer... or will it be a unpleasant surprise 
Wow! Christmas 2017! In just a week!
probably a surprise, at least, I hope it's a surprise that thing is awesome 
Wow I found another person who still lives in 2017 haha
I hope it's an unpleasant surprise, because honestly I would scream if it appeared suddenly in my 4th quest
luka sure is a nutcase tho
when the season drops I can finally take pictures and do more sky paintings, everything has been so tempting to paint but I have to refrain 
now i hope its not in the trailer at all for this. i will thrive on people getting the wax scared out of them
This. This is so relatable. I already made another sky OC because of abyss but can't share because spoilers 😭
I have one that I've been keeping quiet about but augh it's so difficult 
Just a few more weeks
Which feels like so far away
Good night everyone. I feel we're gonna have a lot of fun these last few weeks 
Listen here you 
gRABS yOU 
I usually just watch the chaos unfold from the sidelines
I’m going to feed you to the leviathan
i'm literally only active in the beta channels, but i assume gen chat is going crazy, and will continue to lose their minds through the start of the season
I want to call myself some naval rank
but which one
vice admiral voluntary? 
grabs popcorn
EXPLODES
y e s
I'll need to get really good at swimming and diving to offer Uber services to all my tassalophobic pals in Cozy
apparently there's a naval rank called "master chief petty officer" and I think I might steal your idea just to use this
P e t t y o f f i c e r 
I need to get good so I can drag my friends down to see the leviathan cutscene the second it's available, I wanna hear the pamik
(really I just wanna show them cool big fish because I like sharing spooky stuff with those comfortable
)
How to do the fourth quest in beta? every time I honk I see the star fragments but its under the groundಥ‿ಥ
Halo? 👀
It says the ancestor believes there are more resources, when I go to the said area all I see is the star fragment under the ground I don't how to get it( ;∀;)
I mean third quest, not fourth
Was third the one with the manta cages or were manta cages second one? If so, there's a rectangular hole in the ground near the huge tower. Dive down starting at full air (and don't be scared there are bubbles down) and along the hallway and down again. To the side you'll see the blue symbol. Follow it, you'll find a room with caged mantas. The stones are there.
Oh nice, Ktjn's back
I can defrost from my winter slumber
Thank you, I watched YouTube but I noticed there was a changes in the map that made me confused where to go.
You're welcome, glad I could help. Although my description runs a serious risk to make you confused too I guess, sorry for that
fortune's happening again for additional testing 
Excuse me, I am not connected to the switch account. Nevertheless, can I experience switch pack products?
On beta? The pack is no longer available for testing, so no
Aha i see..thank you for letting me know!!
i mean you can share it here 
i wonder if i should give Uniko the blankie ult
her design only has a hair/mask so far
One of my ocs has her own cape based loosely on the abyss ult cape and ive shared it in live channels before without trouble 
I guess if you don’t know you can’t be spoiled 
Excuse me, Does beta always have a different TS with live version?
there is no announcement stating beta ts should be the same
but it looks like beta ts is currently abit off schedule from the live one
Ohh thanks!!
hey does anyone know when the new update with water is gonna come?
only devs, we’re fellow players like you
gotchu
!omgomgwhenbeta
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
Omg when update again
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
i was so excited for the old ult mask design, if the current one goes to live i will cry 
It's very similar, there is nothing to cry about. You always can write a feedback, just dont make a drama 😄
they had a reason why they changed it, and specifically because of it's design
why do people hate the current rebreather so much
its the most realistic to real live diving mouthpieces
also the new one isnt.... floppy...? which felt disturbing to say the least
Personally, I don't care what the rebreather looks like bc I will not be wearing it
there are too many cool cosmetics, plus you have enough oxygen without ever needing to wear it. That being said, I think the new design definitely makes more sense!
Does anyone know the prices of cosmetics for future events?
Maybe if we didn't point out the similarities between it and nausicaa's mask it would have stayed

i dont mind the original design but if they had kept the floppiness... no thanks
idk what it is but the floppy felt so wrong
Dang
is it just me or are there more lamps in beta eden? or hav i just.. never seen this one specific lantern
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