#beta-discussion
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we need a pop quiz ive been saying it since forever yet no one listens 😞
Is it me or are the message lanterns looking weird 
I’ll read it*
Am still confusion with the big mb of beta XD
i really do wish there was at least something preventing people from just walking in and asking how to join
it seems a lot of users just COMPLETELY ignore the faq and ask here anyways
You must be new here
This happens all the time 
Btw is it normal for friends or yourself to sink into the floor when you exit a cutscene after the spirit shrine???
nope, thats exactly why i said it 
yeah read the #beta-faq newbie
skybot is supposed to give a lil speech but hes sleeping on the job >:/
I remember there's a trigger word when you say "Invite", it got Removed but it's fine~
'how to join beta'
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
THERE 
it's a very specific trigger so most people don't ask right
They're having a food coma from eating all those peas and messages
Nvm
#beta-faq and channel pins
in the corner
Which is a better name? 🇸 tumbling Shipwright or 🇧 umbling Boatswain?
Yeah I remember before, it was just 'Invite'
the real question is how do you pronounce boatswain 
Stumbling Shipwright rings a bell, but Bumbling Boatswain sounds adorable 
welcome to the beta chat lol
Maybe a Bee Attire for Spring of 2022 o w o?
I pronounce it as 'Bot-Sweyn'
boats wain or boat swain
i made a fan event called Days of Honey and designed a bee cape for it i love it sm
Humble Bubbly Bumbling Boatswain Buddy
Awesome
alliteration or riot 
Please I now need a chart of how to say Boatswain like Ktjn has done with their name 
That's amazing, you're amazing! 
yes
PLEASE I would love a bee cape
I want the cape that Krills wear everyday
its a bit more forgiving than just straight up saying 'how to join' but skybot is mean this is canon
Probably not hide beta channels behind a role considering it's meant to be open for everyone. Restricting message perms would be good enough
skybot is the meanest sky kid in the neighborhood 😔
update for android is out
instead I will pine over Dancing Performer's cape who will probably never come back
the season of garden 🌻
only in jest, it's the #1 reply here to questions 🙂
Oh! Is this a place to talk about the recent events? Sorry, I'm very new here, and very tired ; _ ;
This for future events 
(in beta)
as an ex-lurker since switch launch i can confirm that there are at LEAST 2-3 "how do i join" questions daily and i see a lot of poeple get tired of it 
It's more to talk about beta in general.
Got it! Thank you!
oh did you join this cycle? then get used to it 
here is for beta/upcoming content (which we can ONLY talk about in beta, nowhere else
for current live/current content you can check out #seasons-events-chat
Were the message lanterns supposed to be reverted back to the old look from last year? I kind of liked the updated look during earlier testing, so I'm not sure if this is intentional changed back or a bug
Sometimes I'm very glad one can change how the "tone" of the message is taken
The amount of times I'm just tired and my irl attitude is just 🙃 while the text is 
I like to help in beta but aaaaa
but it's not like its bad to ask either, and this is the right place to ask
doesn't bother me, im usually the first to respond (and one of the most polite)
its just silly to see how many people just completely ignore the FAQ channel
Thank you so much! I apologize for asking here, I'm a little slow to catch up on things but hopefully tomorrow I'll have a better chance to browse!
its like watching the baby put the square block in the round hole
you laugh at their struggles but you still help them
I'm currently fighting a small headache along with a sour stomach so yea, not doing too good. If I sound off, it's most likely Im not ina good enough mood to do much...
Don't worry about it! Feel free to ask something you don't understand about
get yourself a tylenol/advil/whatever you have there and take a nappies
adjusted cost balanced
Does this mean...they just shuffled the prices, but the total For all should be the same as before ?
You're so sweet thank you!
And you too!
Not necessarily. This could mean higher or lower prices, and could affect the total cost
i imagine they'd stay roughly the same or decrease
although no promises
on a small curious note I keep seeing other skids putting down a snowglobe but I cant find it anywhere so far (iap is cleared out)..feel like I'm just blind but idk 
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
Tho there are no confirmations yet
That's a days of Feast item, which is over in beta
aww, I fancy the new type of boat lanterns not the old one
it was mistakenly given to several users as part of the candle/iap bug
I wonder if it would help to translate #beta-faq into other languages for foreign players. Might cut down on the amount of "test suit qualification" questions here. Then again, even people who are fully fluent in English don't read the FAQ... 
Ah, I see 
I'd doubt prices would change or even lower, but anything could happen, right ?
It used to be for days of feast.
I read it all now wha do I do?
i think people just tend to forget what faq means sometimes 
You talking about the flying sparkly orb right???
Is the disappearance of the tea cup in the tea set a bug?
Did you?
did you see the message about the 
On wha
Yeah, as long as it's not the final prices, they could change
yup someone didnt read lmao /s
ahhh
why change the Shipwright Name Noooo
Q: HOW DO I BECOME A BETA TESTER?
look at this one very close from the faq
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
I want Bumbling Captain
Do I have to go on google?
No,,,
the #beta-faq channel has the questions and answers in it
Look for a 
bumble boi
nope,, the
role in #beta-faq is to ping when a beta invite wave has been open
The names usually have the same beginning sound, though.
(hence Bumbling Boatswain.
is it bad that i want lemon boat to stay
NVM I HAD A SEASON IDEA IM GONNA USE LEMON BOAT FOR IT
It reminds me of the banana boats that one can rent on the beach 
well his Coat look like a Boat Captain
beta is currently full, we did an invite wave last week, and it was nearly 5 months prior to that for the previous wave, unfortunately your timing is a bit inopportune for this test cycle.
bumbling boatswain has gone through many, many name changes, tbqh
the roles there in case you want to be notifed of the next wave
and TIL boatswain is a word
may we please have some of the other ideas
just for that particular spirit? poor guy
Beta invites can appear at any given time, even when you're not expecting any
You think the Krills might have Santa hats?
we went back and forth on a few as we finalized their stories
I did most of the naming this round
stupid sailor
well that's just mean
They once wore birthday hats, so why not
that's mean

You right 
noooo I take it back 🥺
HOT TAKE:
only on christmas eve, krill wear santa hats and you gain +1 WL from getting krilled (they are giving you a present)
That would be a chaos
I read it and I’m still confused
What if
50/50 chance between a WL and a red crystal from eden
+1 out of -6 they steal WLs
krill in flower crowns
Kids: Give me a hug
Krills: 
Q: HOW DO I BECOME A BETA TESTER?
To qualify as a tester, you need to follow the links we post at the start of a new invite wave. After removing inactive testers from previous beta tests, we will invite active players to the beta in waves. These new waves go out as-needed when the number of active testers falls below a set threshold. Invites are no longer tied to the start of a new Season.
These invite waves will have limited Beta tester slots and will be first-come-first-served. You can watch for these invite announcements and links in our beta-invites and beta-updates channel.
⚠️ To receive a notification when we have new Beta tester invite waves, you can give yourself the @Beta Invites (Ping) role by clicking the
blue cape react at the bottom of this post.
⚠️ To receive a notification when we have new Beta patches to be tested, please click on the
react at the bottom of this post to give yourself the @Beta Updates (Ping) role.
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
@pallid oxide
Long story short:
not now
I plan on begging in feedback about this, but please, you can't take away the ability to table stack 
Please don't do this
Xmas lights on krill body
krills pulling a sleigh
HOW do I get the WAVES
the waves come randomly, we dont choose when
invite waves are only when the Devs need more testers
they are usually a few months apart
they come and go
they've been firmly tucked back into my wizard hat in case there's a future opportunity 
Krills are Krampus so-
wizarding warfer
No I don’t now how to get the waves when they come
Tiger mask with yeti hair does not work
It just makes me look like I'm closing my eyes www
"⚠️ To receive a notification when we have new Beta tester invite waves, you can give yourself the @Beta Invites (Ping) role by clicking the
blue cape react at the bottom of this post."
in #beta-faq
There's NONE at the MOMENT
If you had read Beta Faq as you said you did, then you should know about the Invite Wave Notification Roles
When there is an invite wave, they will ping the beta invites role in #beta-signup-info. Since you have that role, you'll get the ping
Imagine if they announced beforehand the exact hour that a beta invite wave would open 
Sorry to chime in… I think they’re asking since they go so fast, what do they do when the wave actually comes..? If I’m not mistaken
you click the link in the message for a new wave that allows you to join beta
Ok
Some links are shared in #beta-signup-info, they tell you what to do from there.
Its a first come first server-
then you would have people camping, no good at all 
btw whats a hair spell...
H A I R
like a prop/accessory spell but for hairstyle (like the mischief witch)
i remember being very confused when people started asking about test clothes
😭 i just got one from gratitude qg but i have so many spells that idk what i got
and just 'hair' is very confusing sdfgsdfg
That's just translation things 
Google translate be ✨ funky ✨
probably the tiger mask?
the icon of a hair spell should show the hair it gives you
The friendship tree...Does anyone know what the seasonal candle on the left side does ? ( Costing 10 candles )
Is that where the envelope is supposed to be ?
It's too much to ask and it's not like I want the devs to do this or push themselves, but it'd be so cool if we had the infamous reindeer antlers or ALL the reindeers in the song XD
give us a mask with a red nose
pair it with antlers to become Rudolph
clown nose
_ Glowing red nose_
that too
I'm split on this tbh. Cause the envelope thingy was used in the past Fortune event, so there's an icon for it already
omg season of the clowns
Nope, I'd stay away from the game for however long that goes on X,D
starting contest vs. krills
thank you for the great drawing ideas betachat 
Hey guys, one question, do you know why I can’t see the boat for the new place ? It’s a bug or something?
Maybe it's a placeholder ?
its in golden wasteland social space now
the boat has been shifted to wasteland social space
Oh! I get that too, is it just a thing we need to wait for?
- you must have completed Eden at least once
- it was moved to social space
just go to the jetty to your right
thanks, that might be it! i still wonder if the spell is called the same in english tho (im playing spanish) might go give feedback on that 
Oh thank so much !
boat transport to the Crystal Bay has been moved to the Social Space of Golden Wasteland (to the right)
what is the icon of the hair spell? it should show what it gives you (like the mischief witch hat)
wow imagine getting krill before going on Bay 😂
You gain ideas from what we converse?
Big brain move by devs
We usually brainstorm what could possibly the devs be cooking 
you mean on the bottom of the screen where it says "this blessing contains x" after you buy it? because if so then theres no icon
just a note for future
if you ever see 🖐️😳
or just 🖐️
that is probably me saying "show me pls"
That's good! I'm a sketch artists and digital artists, I was somewhat browsing to see if you guys had a small art corner.
hmm. check your spell menu and see if there is a new icon?
it says "trail spell" no matter what colour you get, so maybe it says Hair Spell no matter what you get
For art? We have #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat and #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations, but keep in mind, if something features beta content, to #beta-screenshots-videos it goes
is the 10 candle seasonal candle node emergency seasonal candle gifting of some sorts
cyaa
i need to do dishes( ≧Д≦)
it would be nice to help my friends this way, some of them have kids that take up more time or work a lot more! Or study for school and can't play as much
Oh I see, thank you for telling me, you're so sweet ♥️
haha oh no... if only my beta friends with the candle bug gave me all their 1500+ candles and i accumulated untold wealth 
i wonder how long will they reset the seasonal candles or we gonna have em for a while till they convert into normal candles
i keep constantly checking to see if they do
im mostly going to draw the krill with flower crowns (thank you ktjn), the krill with christmas lights (I forgot who said) and the krill with santa hats (multiple people said this)
imagine krill use flower crown when days of love started 
they wont reset them until they figure out a fix because otherwise it wouldnt make sense to go through the trouble when we're just going to get thousands of candles again
I wish for a flower crown, in-game and irl too 😄
Me after reclaiming all the spell nodes after the update and didnt get a single resize spell: 
YOOO UPDATE!!! (Can i get my gondola now?)
They need to bring back table stacking 
wait, it hasnt been fixed yet? I can trigger it still? I can get wealthier!?
The candles come from your regular or from your seasonal candles?
not sure haven't tried
i think it miiight be the witch hair? is the only spell i only have one of, and its a hair 😄
tgc can we pls buy able with valentine boat
Please, I can't imagine this game without table stacking. It's possibly the best and most fun way to meet and connect with new people without feeling a lot of pressure
They can't take it away
if youre lucky enough, maybe 
Table stacking gone??
I'm really upset by this change, I just want to be able to table stack
I also managed to get a couple 100s of regular candles when the bug first occurred , i got regular candles by relieving the spirits
sounds like the shop is still bugged
Aww I missed that bug 
Only happend twice tho
this means i still have a chance i'll be it a very small one to hit the integer limit

please consider submitting feedback, it's the best place for them to know. Might be a lil hard to see it here burried by the sea of convos about the new update
Time to relive and spend

Excuse me, ill just go mess around with some stuff a bit and see if i can trigger it
the candle/IAP bug also randomly gave players IAP purchases, several of which came bundled with candles
it doesn't actually give you any white candles, just the IAPS and their bundles (roughly 300 max, and won't trigger again once you already have it)
I plan on begging in feedback
yup, happened to me with that exact context
Is anyone else having issues with the days of fortune cape? It shows grey in my inventory and then when going to the spirit that is supposed to have it, it says all items are collected when I definitely don’t have it.
Which spirit?
Strange, it gave me a couple 100 white candles
The one on the roof.
uh so i just looked in beta screenshots and.... what the heck is going on with the graphics

you likely received one of the IPAs from the bug that came bundled with white candles
sky children of the matrix
im backkkk
Im afraid to update my game if beta screenshots is what stuff looks like
pssst i want devs to put an easter egg😂
||Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?||
I'm not so adamant on this year's seasonal event.
I consoled with a friend how the month of Halloween Event took its toll on me and left me feeling bitter about Events.
I don't know how to feel about Future Events now, I still haven't rlly done the side-quest event in over a month now...
it could have been any of the days of fortune/love items from this or last year
The seasonal candles must’ve worked a bit different, i received 9900 of them
ohh
If anyone else here uses controller is anyone having a problem with placing props? I reported the bug last build but it’s still here, not sure if I should report again?
hoarding spells hasnt payed off 😔
Devs... Any plans for free camera option 👉👈
hoarding spells is fun because you can end up having super rare things (an example would be the days of healing flower which i saw someone say they had still)
Days of healing flower spell??
go ahead! if its still present in this build it wouldnt hurt to let them know
Thank
make sure to report the shop being broken in the new build as well if it's still down for you
they need to know of the newest update fixes it or not
that's a good candidate for #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
the iap bug should only hide IAPs you already recieved from it
the new items that you didnt get should show
yeah! It was a past event i read about that was a fundraiser for pandemic relief! 
unless it somehow marked off the purchase without giving you the item perhaps?
i'd be curious how they have a spell of it since that doesn't exist 
Me crying over not having the gondola that was the only item i didn't get from the bug
Ive been lied to
called outttt 
its a prank
the flower wasnt even in beta you gave me a scare
the item totally exists, but there are no spell versions of it. we didn't start doing spells like that until long after that item was no longer available
i know cuz i make those spells <_<
I want to give them the benefit of the doubt and say they confused the RAINBOW flower for the healing flower
i have spells from the pin spell stone 
I'd probably do that tbh
rainbow flower had a spell, yes.
rainbow beanie didnt and its a surprise tbh
Beanssss
it was a hit or miss in obtaining it tbh
me who only started playing again at the end of DoR and missed everything
real talk, i forgot and by the time i noticed the patch had long since shipped 
it keeps me up at night sometimes
i thought it was more so if the fact was a last minute addition to the Rainbow items and didnt have a proper coding set 
So your nightmares are of Rainbows? 
🌈 
stop it patrick youre scaring her
-spongebob
make an alarm for next year 
lol
pff, id say do a triple check to see if the items added all have their respective spells
GhostBusters Event


prfffffff
damn i cant flex when i dont have(nitro)
also i was today years old when i realized that spells arent named after the item theyre for
they used to be!
maybe they should send that clown nose to me via inbox
Boat spells- BOAT SPELLS- BOAT SPELLS!!!
I can finally have the taste of the gondola!
(I rlly hope they fix this bug cuz i want it on my locker)
since its an IAP item, i fully expect it to have spells
merchant’s boat + tree hidey hole in office all had spells for the items
Wait really?
spare some blessings to us peasants
no free spells for the boat, swing and seesaw at this time
Since it's an IAP item, i fully expect to be able to get it 😀
but we streamlined it a while back so that it just says what item slot the item is for, means we can make them a lot more quickly with fewer resources, and in the event that an item changes names the localized versions aren't broken/missing
why is the firework staff spell called a prop when its theoretically an instrument 
they're there, just gotta look a little harder perhaps 
all instruments are props but not all props are instruments
true
Because you can't play sick beats on the fire stick? Still unsure
Not with that attitude /j

Is it just me or is the days of love boat a little bit faster now?
also i noticed theres two separate Firework spells?
someones going to play a sick beat with the boat prop you'll see
you should go speed drifting with the boat now
skykids won't have to buff up trying to row the boat so hard 
pff
= 🏎️
vroom vroom
let’s ride
imagine skykid rowing teams
Im gonna try to play a sick beat now
Firework beat 😎
skykid summer olympics, held in valley, coming soon
next water season 😌
Next valley race leaked
Brb im gonna try and row the boat off of sanctuary’s waterfall
Sky Kid Canoe Slalom 400m? 
please record that 
Definitely
do a backflip
Row, row, row your boat gently down the WAAAAAGHHH
-splash-
eko please wear safety life vests
do a barrel roll
nvm fall damage doesn’t exist
not with that attitude
🧍
Skykids have removed their bones 😎

Boneless children
that's another thing for me to draw later
every day is a No Bones Day ™️
A skykid ripping out their spine#(#!£!*????
nooo
I thought I was in #general-sky-discussion for a second
PFFF
i was thinking more of a puddle of a skykid 
Oh okay 
#beta-screenshots-videos message its odd tbh
Hey guys is beta available for Android too? If it's can someone send me the link?
did you try using them?
it is but the beta is full atm
I personally never believed sky kids to have bones, always just envisioned em as like
clay dolls with light juice inside of em 
Beta is available on Android but full atm
Then why they pinged
really? I always thought they were just- quite literally- humanoid stars
whag
:'>
whag
I got to party late
okay that got an audible cackle out of me
not yet, but the two sets are kinda weird to me
Ty guys
what would the light juice taste like? Do krill like light juice? Is this why krill attack us?
I wasn't even trying to make a joke that's just what I've seen em as 
omg are they like pizza with cheese in the crust
i vaguely remember days of fortune having some special firework spells or smth but i could be completely wrong
Not 100% literally but just something along those lines
skykids stole their capri suns, the krill are just trying to get them back
Okay why can’t I find the boat that takes me to the abyss area
Also HUH what are y’all discussing LOLOL
Sky: Children of the Juice
Sky: Clay with Juice
Bone juice 😎
no, special edition caprisun
We are living caprisuns? That might explain why the krills like us so much
exactly
WE ARE A WALKING AND OR FLYING BAG OF APPLE JUICE
nvm couldnt find anything 😔
b a g ?
i have no idea what youre talking about and at this point im too afraid to ask
apple juice bags but if skykids were those
We are a juice box
honey have got some news for you 🍁 🥛
only milk comes in a bag... according to some
MILK IN BAGS IS DIFFERENT. NOT APPLE JUICE
caprisuns are basically bags

Solid, geometrical bags
NO THEY'RE LIKE... FLIMSY JUICE BOXES
Juice triangle
bogs.. box bags
TRIANGLE. YES
what do you do if it breaks in two different spots and now the juice is spilling everywhere and you can pick up the bag because its a bag and gravity does its thing and now the bag is on the floor 
wasnt me
Ive been beaned
Omg. They are bags. Weird plastic bags
Exactly what you do when you stab the straw thru the entire caprisun.
you cry
you put the bag in a jug so if ther is holes it wont spill everywhere
but you cant pick up the bag because of gravity or something

solid bags
juice bags are cursed
Wait so are sky kids juice bags?
we really having milk discourse in beta chat
i love it
NOOO
this is getting out of hand, i believe
i would bean you if i could
i gotta finish up some work, so before the mods skin me alive we should prolly get back on topic of beta
!bean 106639843672494080 test
Unable to bean Ktjn#8721 as I do not have a higher role than them.
sad
i mean you did attempt it
I think skinning people is illegal 
is this a mutiny
it's the thought that counts
how dare you mock me
hey everyone what's u-
im calling the mods
uh oh
Anyways, I can over to ask if anyone else is having trouble finding the boat that takes you to the abyss area. I went there before but now I can’t find it
scatter

phone dialing
runs
RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
!bean 654867645484498988 oh no you don’t
Charmavoid#5514 (654867645484498988) was beaned. Reason: oh no you don’t
it has been moved to the social space
oh no
RUH ROH RAGGY

!bean 380960534398369794 BURSTS A WALL OHH YEAAHHH
kanoo#2471 (380960534398369794) was beaned. Reason: *BURSTS A WALL* OHH YEAAHHH
AAAA

who’s next 
Ah thanks. And have fun y’all with um… whatever is happening
🏃

What did I just come back to
!bean 731701392523395153 faster boats
ItsBeebo#7549 (731701392523395153) was beaned. Reason: faster boats
is this revenge for off-topic chatter
okay i poof as well stream deja vu by initial d while you’re on a boat at max speed
will do
back to beta- i enjoy swimming around Home and popping up to scare people like a little water gremlin
hehehe water gremlin
Water gremblin 😎
#beta-screenshots-videos i did it
Anyone else tried the gifting candles yet? It shows a seasonal candle for me, but I ended up gifting my normal candles instead… bugged?
or intentional?
Has anyone tried unlocking the top tier friendship branch that costs 10 candles? I did and didn't see anything happen. What do we supposed to see or able to exchange with it?
It is a friend ship gift option. It takes 10 regular white candles, and the recipient receives 10 seasonal candles. O.o
Just seasonal candles to be exchanged with? It mentioned social items
Also, I wonder if gifting seasonal candles has the same restrictions as gifting hearts.
Which means we need to “spend for some time with them” to which I still cannot gift a friend despite playing with them daily for weeks now.
If you receive the gift, yes you only get seasonal candles. It tells the gifter they are sending a heart, however it gives seasonal candles.
I will try later with my new friend
Yes that's right. Not heart. Okay, thanks. 🥰
On the whole "give us more reporting options for griefing." Why do they still allow a butt ton of boats by home's return shrine. Every controller user despises those notes that make getting gift SC and dailies near impossible. Those boats in that area are just as bad as the ones that cover Eden statues... Instead they break prop stacking due to griefing...
Actually, as a chibi player, I'd like to see that spot not be underwater at all
It's hard to claim candles from the shrine sometimes
As a natural near smallest height, I concur. Even I swim at 0.84 height. (Using Nathan's chart)
And that's apart from the issues with getting dailies on Switch and with controllers
Prop stacking is such a wholesome way to meet new people and hang out with friends
Hi it’s me again 🤣 one question please, how can I get the fish cape? I don’t found it
it was for days of fortune, i don’t think it’s available rn
It should appear in the shop as far as I'm aware, but if it's not there, I don't know
Ohhh ok, though was available yet
Fortune and Love came back for more testing
Oh that’s nice !! Let’s see if we have luck 🍀
oh right sorry, then it’s probably the IAP bug since some people couldn’t buy the love boat either
So it basically sounds like, ideally, they should just disable prop collision with spirits, fix it so that props don't collide with strangers (since they're not supposed to anyway), and allow us to report anyone, regardless of whether they're lit or not. Does that about sum up where we are with this discussion right now? /gen
exactly, though it looks like a lot of players wanna keep prop collision with spirits 
i don't mind if it has to go since i never really played with spirits but i know a lot of people would miss it if it got patched out 😔
Semi off-topic
But even with the most recent update I dont have the 'envelop' node next too double five. Anyone else experiancing this?
it was fun but some players can't claim the qg gift if they were so high up...
oh i didnt know that, thanks for informing me 
I'd like it if there was still prop collision with spirits, but I'd be okay without it as well. I'm definitely not as dedicated to painstakingly moving spirits as some people are, though. I've seen some really fun and creative things people have managed to do
Obviously I'm not one of the devs, so I can't speak to the ease of implementing any certain thing, but what if they could find a way to just keep the button in one place, regardless of where the spirit was?
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
wait can't you get quests from that statue now? what if they made it so you can also recieve seasonal quests from it too if you need to 
So say the quest giver was in front of Vault. Even if the quest giver was way up in the air, you could still tap the button from the ground
They probably could, but I don't think that'd really make sense to do
Then there would be no need for the qg in home and I dont think that should happen, that's changing something that's been in-game for pretty much always
Sorry if I ever sound dismissive at all, I'm not always good at explaining my thoughts
AS A SWITCH USER I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH I HATE THE SHRINE BOATS
it's bad enough that the dailies are there, then there's the return shrine, and whatever boats there are
they could have the qg wander around homespace or maybe they could hang around the current quest realm's portal in different poses 
the qg's've been standing around in that pseudo-polite stance for as long as there've been qgs, i think they deserve to lounge on top of a portal as a treat 
questgivers can have a little a pose (this is a reference)
cats can have a little a salami
Say they gave the quest giver (and event guides and traveling spirits) some kind of outline or glow, so that you could still know you could approach their spots and interact with them and their trees even if they were far away
like a honk radar with your friends?
Maybe? Just something that would indicate to people that there wasn't some kind of bug and that they weren't gone entirely
i will still riot for daily QG back. he was easier to get to and less crowded
well a way to use the return shrine is using the sit emote from the menu instead of the button, used to work on me. getting the rewards like hearts and candles it's annoying sometimes cause of the boats.
I don't know if that's really the point of the discussion ngl I just came here
the way the dailies are now i have to walk around to the back and angle the camera JSUT right to get the daily button
there's anywhere from 2+ buttons in the way (candle, return shrine, any # of boats)
i like to save my daily candle for when i collect the dailies so i get all 5 (6 if i havent forged the realm candle yet) at once
serotonin go brr
even with that trick there's still at least 2 prompts at the return shrine since there's always a boat there and the return button doesn't go away, and at worst there's 4+ between the quest button, sc/heart, return button and anywhere between 1 and 4 boats 
Same but even on phone I go to tap gift/quests and then the boat moves or the prompt changes and I end up clicking the boat anyway?
I agree that if they are going to change collision + placement of things the boats around return shrine should be the first thing
(I'm still all for raising that spot so it's above water)
Same with burning plants in Forest and Wasteland, I just give up the usual way but stick to emote menu 
idk if it should count as a solution since the problem stays there forever 
yeah, raise it above water and make it a no-prop zone including boats 
my suggestion for that was a priority list for interactable buttons
return shrine/candles/plants > boat
literally anything > friend menu
so if theres like 4 in a spot it just shows the priority one
Literally anything except maybe chat
true true
put chat at the veeery bottom, there was a month or so where you couldnt play music at all without bumping into chat 
i remember that, being kicked out of instrument menu by litearlly ANY button ever
pain
i still don't know why you can even interact with chat, like i assume it's for translators since it copies the text
I finally managed to remove those memories from my head 😭😂
yeah just to copy messages
it's only a matter of time until instruments are unplayable again 
The priority and sensitivity of the friend menue needs to go down please
Idk how many times I've opened it on a cr with someone
Will days of love garland come back?
the anniversary pennant/banner? probably
this honestly.
honking is impossible when using piggy as well.
if you mean the flower crown, it's coming back right now since we're retesting love and fortune
switch superiority (having a dedicated button for honk)
I guess that is one bonus of using a controller. Just press the honk button. 
yeah Ig I'm speaking as a mobile player 
And one to open the quests without having to forge candles
So useful
I agree
i think the wing menu should have the highest priority of all, the most awkward thing is trying to express myself during a conversation and ending up doing a reaction for a message i sent like a minute ago 
same with lighting new people, i have to wiggle the camera around and take so long bowing i start to worry i might look rude 
Also controller is able to do honk+move as the same time, boost your speed underwater, etc.
Not a topic for this channel but I really hope they could bring both features to mobile controls
we need a 'favourite emotes' section (not the 'recently used' one)
i have to go looking for like 5 seconds for ones i use a lot just cause i touched another one recently
being able to view your dailies without forging candles (<)
it helps that it's also pretty out of the way, you rarely have to interact with objects at the very top of the screen and if you're copying text it's easier to do it from the chat window
when youre trying to light friends but the touch button overlaps th wing menu and kicks you out of the constellation menu--
Also the fact that you can do a goofy leg drag walk. I like that about using Switch as well
apparently you can do that on mobile but the hitboxes(? is that the right word for a gui) for checking your quests and forging candles are almost perfectly overlapping to the point where i think it just might not be possible to do it on some devices
yes! i managed to do it somehow with my beta phone
NOT happenning on the iphone tho
devil laugh
gonna stay in my favourite forever hahh
i've done it a few times before but my phone is also really long so that might have something to do with it
Alternate idea for spirit/prop collision: Assuming this happens mostly at Home, they make Home essentially a big shared space where you can use props to move spirits around without affecting other players at all
literally there are only 2 things i know of that switch is missing and mobile gets
-keep control of camera/jump during background cutscenes (switch locks up)
-can flick to jump down small holes (switch just makes you jump over and around it 50 times and you have to fly and thread the needle to get in the holes)
also I'd like to add something idk if people already spoke about it.
But the max amount of placeable items in shared space should not exist.
I don't know what's the reason behind it, but the fact I can't decorate my shared space as I want makes me mad
no no, we can't jump down small holes either
but yeah you guys deserve to be able to move more freely during cutscenes 
i get why there's a limit (too many items, hard load on the game, possible glitches/crashing) but i wish the amount was larger
i think it's a lag thing but we used to be able to place a LOT more props than we can now
maybe the limit should only exist for items that emit particles like the star projector, snowglobe and anything you can set on fire
yeah that's what I was thinking, but the limit is too strict for now
in before i stack pillows into the sky
Or just find some way for spirits at Home to be specific to each player, so that even if the spirit is way up in the air for me, they're still right where they should be for another player in the same server
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
Just because I said "where" doesn't mean I was asking a question, Skybot
maybe skybot has a few bugs we need to iron out too 
*laughs in can do the goofy leg on mobile too just no where near as well *
Skybot beta when 👀
#stopbullyingskybot sob
You just can't nearly as quickly. It's not the same
I thought TGC did that already, tbh. I remember TGC installing something similar a few months ago for the questgiver so strangers (maybe it was just for people who just appeared in the server?) wouldn't see the questgiver in the air
First tell skybot to stop bullying us 
If that's the case already, then I don't really understand the problem
I think they may be disabling the function altogether or something? I'm not sure either
Meaning I don't understand the motivation for changing the way props work
It's probably connected to players pushing other players mechanic
~~I just realized there's no slowmode - can't remember the last time beta chat hasn't had a slowmode ~~ 
Either way the tradition end now 😔
probably
Yeah, though I don't think they mentioned that in the updates
goodbye floating traveling spirit :(
back after my 7th sneeze in a row
They did👀
NPCs can no longer be pushed up in the air by place props underneath them, so that this bug can no longer be used to grief other players
I thought that was in relation to the spirits
I bet players were hiking the spirit into the sky and players couldn't get to the purchase menu
So like
what i don't understand is why we can't even place props close to ourselves, that makes them basically useless in close corners or in the air 
like does the game go "OH SKID HITBOX, NO PROP HERE" regardless of who the hitbox beling to? 
did they make place props buggy again so they don't make other people move?
it's not a bug now, it's a feature
the spirit only moves up if you sit at the table to activate collision. someone else could have a spirit sky high and they could still be at ground level for you, at least in live rn
also to prevent griefing
tbc (thatbethesdacompany) /j
then I really don't understand why they're making the change
i was happy to walk on other people's tables without sitting on them first.
sob
They've already implemented an afk timer for wax, so why not a similar one for winged light? After a certain amount of time afk, you won't lose winged light anymore
Because the same bug was used to push other players into dark water 👀
That'd help to limit the damage
the npc hoisting?
I can kind of understand it with the props
ohhh right, you need to table stack to hoist the spirits
it can't even be exploited easily since you can't really afk on the spot to avoid krill
your brain is huge 
ok yeah, that makes more sense. still super sad
please suggest this in feedback
why would people do that tho
, that's just so sad
there are unfortunately a ton of super rude people in Sky that find it fun to harass people
why? I have no idea
yes I will experienced that. and I still couldn't report them
people are mean unfortunately 😔
the biggest explanation i've heard is that afk players aren't working for their wax which is like. super inconsiderate of why they're afking
like what if they're at their actual job or something
I'm sure I got that idea from someone else, though. I just think it's relevant to the problem at hand
this can easily be solved by resetting the area (going into a portal and going back home)
since props only have collision once its yours or you friends, for stranger players joining in the server or have already been in there, the spirits in their PoV are unaffected
well, that's what I've observed when me and my friends did a table stack game with a spirit and I went to a portal and rejoined them
the report function should also be expanded to help players who are being harassed
exactly. in that respect, I don't understand why the feature is being removed
the griefing is a separate but related issue
can't TGC completely remove collision for props as well? they've removed it for most already
from what i've messed around with in live, it looks like there's a short amount of time where props still have collision regardless of who's placing it which is why you can push people, but in that case fix that instead of making props nearly impossible to place
maybe they have a harder time doing that so they resorted to this, which is caused quite an undesirable side effect
I'm sad that my Pipe prop is now completely useless
Make afk players immovable. If they can't totally fix the collision, make the prop move
what's the point of even owning a pipe if you can't bother your friends with it 
With the current build, if we want to put cake on table, but someone is standing around the table, we can't put the cake
that's so sad
THIS
ah well, at least we can use it as a chibi sneep snorp cave
I'm proud of you for getting enough sneep snorp, @ashen dragon
rather hard to decorate Shared space now sigh
how am i supposed to throw my friends birthday parties now? 
cakes 🎂 on the 😙 floor 🤩
😔
anyways yea that should change again into something more practical
it's practically impossible with a controller since the joystick that moves the camera also selects an item so you have to rely on sky's finicky automatic camera movement to get a good angle on anything
most of the time you end up staring at the ground, in sky because the camera's bad and in irl to hide your tears of rage
awkward moment when you have to tell everyone to "Step away for the table, I'm placing a cake"
Just wondering where is the entrance to the abyss now? Went to the previous location but there is no boat.
I ate it 
this is so true
"with my long hands cuz I can't get close either"
YOU WHAT
In the Wasteland social space
Social space?
yes, Social Space
forbidden evil build of sky with android texture crashes, ios log crash, top priority chat and socially distant props
First area when you enter the portal
if this comes to live I'm not playing anymore

why the props gotta include us to the placement restrictions like we ain't that irresponsible to grief ourselves with own props

every copy of sky: children of the light is personalized
The boat to abyss?
Yes, that's the area where it's moved. There's a dock there now to the right of the fire
I am
bookshelving time 😎
Near the forgotten ark boat?
No, in the area before you go through the storm and faceplant in the sand
that very first area where has closet and chat benches
it's in the social space, on the right. so like, right of the firebone
Right after you enter the portal door, head to campfire and turn to your right!
Campfire where the crab?
Gimme your QR CODE
😂
send em a screenshot in #beta-screenshots-videos smh
ah right screenshot
It is complicated for me coz we are already 8 looking for it 😂
Enter the Wasteland portal from Home and turn right. That's really all you need to do
Don't go through the storm, or you'll have gone too far
Alright, so instead of the weird prop radius thing, they should not do that keep players from losing winged light after a certain amount of time afk, let us report players we see trying to do this to other people regardless of whether they're lit, and make us stronger than the props in some fashion, yeah?
i like that idea
reporting people without lighting them would be helpful too for if someone has [more than possible stars] and they wont light your candle
a lot of people who harass others (or who are doing things they're not supposed to be) know not to light others now because they know the report feature will appear, so it would be great to report people without lighting them
The amount of times ive been unable to report a "magician" is annoying
Did I miss anything else with that? I want to be able to leave comprehensive feedback that's not just me begging for them not to do this (though there will be plenty of that, too)
let us report unlit players, not losing wl after certain amount of afk time lets say when your sky kid lays down, and props cant push us. That seems good for now
I mean, anything that lets me properly stack props with other players again is welcome
yea
Oh the wl thing would be nice, ik I've fallen asleep in Forest during cr and woken up in the pity room before 
or if you look away for two seconds while underwater 
Me too

So how's the game?
Seeing that happening to someone can be really stressful for other players, too
I once stood and honked by a player who was afk in the rain for atleast 20 minutes making sure they didnt die
For all the bad people in the game, there are a lot of people who will stick around and try desperately to keep people from losing any more winged light when they clearly didn't mean to go afk where they did
I've had friends go afk in Forest before when I've been with them, and it was so sad seeing their light drain despite me deep calling the whole time to try to charge them. It was a relief to see them poof out of the game because I knew they wouldn't lose more light. It was worse when I had to leave them 
they disappeared after a bit but im pretty sure chibi don't normally have 4 stars

might have been a player who just got the chibi mask and was recently reborn
maybe, they were near one of the treehouses with wl in it
still sad they were in the rain tho
Aw man,
the Yeti hair doesn't work with the tiger mask ;-;
Eyyo they removed the gift iap node in the fortune spirit's tree
Say
Am i the only one who think that We won't get Dismiss back as Traveling Spirit since we literally got the Cape and mask from IAP Bugs incident before ?
It means, Dismiss in Global version are Coded as Package and not Traveling Spirit right ? Or is it same like the Winter Piano
In theory, Dismiss is just as likely to return as any other past seasonal spirit
Rng, yaaaaaay 
In some past patch notes, it was said the packs like dismiss and winter piano wouldn't happen again, so ts system is our safest best-- seeing that respectful Pianist did come back eventually
respect was also a spirit with items available from an iap pack and they returned like 6 montbs ago, i think we just have abysmal luck
And what happens in beta stays in beta, in this case I don't think this bug will hinder live players
it wouldn't make sense cause it's a bug and also would be unfair
i can't get the ult mask anymore

ye the scratched one got removed
They didn't issue that in recent patch note, but it could be a temp remove for redesign or brush-up
its still in the closet if you bought it before the tree was updated so thats neat
Let's see how it goes 
yeah but that thing stole 1 season heart
its still in the closet
You can still use it anytime 
but i can't get the second one
ohh like the water breathing one?
yeah
Ah I get what you mean now, that breathing mask now costs 2 hearts
well this is beta
can't help with that 
we cant place the boat in mid-air anymore?
Ummm, is it just me or has the boat to new area gone?
its in the wasteland social space now
Ohhhh thank you
Has anyone found more than 1 winged light in the Abyss area? Just checking, there don't seem to be any others 🧐
Alright, since I was able to more or less collect my thoughts, I have left some feedback
I'm still worried and waiting to see what kinds of changes they'll make with the prop placement stuff, but I found discussing it with you all to be helpful
Is the changes to the feast red cape and juggler cape a lighting bug or intentional?
It looks like they got drenched in water
The trial of fire is very interesting. There are no smoke worms, but you can’t see the next candle. It makes the level difficult in a whole new way.
most likely a side effect of toning down the overbrightness on some cosmetics
some stuff with even a tiny bit of white would LITERALLY glow and it was kind of eyestraining
Have they updated the translation engine at all recently? Because it's definitely handling Chinese/English conversations way better than it used to.
No wl yet? (She asks at the risk of people jumping down her throat…)
there's one in a tunnel underwater 
the area also looks super unfinished so we might get more later
Do you think it's an intentional change or a bug?
Ah yes our beloved Ts RNG
Yeah i know that
In theory..
Which ?
How many seasonal candles can you get from each realm?
1 in live, 25 in beta
Probably a bug. I submitted a report, we’ll see.
I avoid the trials at all cost since testing, so I would never have spotted such a thing. It's so good that there are people like you out there!
I love the fire trial. Once you run it a few dozen times, you get to go through it really fast because you know where to go. And it has tons of candles at the end.
can someone to show how to get to season location?
The boat is on the right side in wasteland social space
okay, where i can find social space? You're not talking about a place with a crab kebab, are you?
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Social space is the very first area with benches and fireplace 
Wasteland hub if you may 
oh, I get it. thanks!
I'm sorry but when i log in sky beta it's said : " Game data is corrupt. Please re-install" ? What happen why can't i play 
That bug should have been fixed some time ago. What version are you on? Where did you download the game?
I just downloaded the game on ch play and I enter the game even go to map 1 but i was busy so i quit . Then i open it again but can't play
I'm sorry, we can't help you if you have downloaded the game from a third party. You should only join beta or play the Live version of the game by downloading through GooglePlay or AppleStore.
what if you don't have GooglePlay or Applestore?
Then you can't play the game. It's against the Terms of Service. Please read more here: https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/a/sky-children-of-the-light/?l=en&p=all&s=legal-code-of-conduct
Importantly, the point of beta is for TGC to receive feedback and information from gameplay of their game. If you play on a pirated copy, you are not helping them at all. You are also subjecting yourself to malware by downloading from a third party.
You should also not use beta as your main gameplay, unless you're fine with the danger of losing everything and having lots of bugs.
I love this company when it comes to their update and patch note reports 
No. You get 25 in total per day in beta, not per realm.
Ox mask is 54, and Tiger mask is 58
does anyone know when the christmas stuff comes to the normal sky? have not heard of a date yet
!skate-n-sleigh
Party with friends amidst the festive decor, and take advantage of ample space to practice your favorite skating and hockey moves during Days of Feast event that's coming back for 3 weeks, beginning on <t:1639987200:F> and continuing until <t:1641801599:F> 


More info about the event can be found below:
https://bit.ly/SkyPatch0155 
thank you!
Where can I get the fish hat and Cape?
Have tgc fixed the sc glitch
Did they remove a mask from the ultimate gift section? I can't see it anywhere
Still there the candles.
In the store.
The report button is there, it's just dark. If you can light them you can report them.
Those that have collected the ults already still have it in the closet so perhaps they are working on a redesign.
I don't see it in store
Lol impossible, you might saw people wear assembly pant 😂
Oh wow, they added Seasonal Candle gifting for just 10 candles. :|
There are some hair with triangle pattern
Am looking forward to the evil laughter emote getting into live
Because then I’ll be able to laugh at my friends when they fall in the trials
?
Yup, if play since season gratitude then will know the different. There are lot new players spread hoax and report wrong person.
Abyss season in beta started at Build 0.16.0 (180871) btw
Just read the new build notes and just wanted to say Bumbling Boatswain sounds like the awesome-st name ever
tbh as not english native i rarely understand what those names represent 
Where is the boat after this update? Helpp me 🙏🙏
I ate it 
crystal bay entrance boat moved to wasteland social space
Thank youuu
bruhh where is the boat to Crystal Bay?
I ate it 
well dayum
thank you
What's even more curious about that is boatswain is actually said like "bosun" 🤯
Native English is weird
The candle gift idea is really cool, I hope they keep it. 5-6 seasonals a day always felt slow, and it rewards having close buddies 
yeah yeah, especially when sometimes friends skipped some days and in the last days of season they don't have enough 
I wonder one day that guide statue will get any functions.
I know we’ve been kept in the dark about recent additions/changes lately, but 10 C for 10 SC daily is just too good to be true, it was never mentioned anywhere in notes
i just hope that this feature won't have further consequences on other things (im not giving tgc any ideas
)
they convert in same ratio tho
It is OP but im still hoping they keep it haha. I don't see any very big consequences of it and it offers much needed flexibility
It has nothing to do with the ratio, it’s about its exploitable potential
well to exploit that you would really have to sweat a lot to develop the tree to the very top, which i doubt people would do
I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue here
im saying that it doesnt have exploitable potential
It does as it is now, unless an overall limit is applied
what exactly is the problem? i can't test it myself, as i dont hv tree developed with anyone in beta
SC trading, obviously. As of now it can be gifted daily to any friend (unless the mysterious heart requirements apply)
It was never mentioned anywhere & the heart envelope is nowhere to be seen, so I’m unsure if this is an intentional addition or not
with enough candles and friends you could finish the whole season very quickly, it would change how we think of seasonal candles
well it's not like it's 3 candles, it's 10 candles, so few people would actually do that
You do realize how dedicated the community is, do you?
10 candles is not that much for a straight conversion
i see this as a nice feature, needed for players
It is, but within limits, I’m not asking for removal of the feature
I could see it saving someone from missing an ult/other item
and also about making seasons less grindy in general, as it is now
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10 candles a day is doable, but not sustainable if you're looking at other usual candle expenses.
Maybe if the seasonal candle trade was dropped from 10 to 5 for 10 regular. I wouldn't like it, but ig to prevent apparent 'exploiters'
It’s too good to be true, just saying
I think there's definitely potential for people who already break tos, by inflating their wallets with multiple alts, to just use this as a further way earning large amounts of candles. not gonna get into details, but I definitely agree there's a risk 
I strictly stand by my point, but I don’t feel like arguing this further. I’ll wait for dev insight on the matter
Maybe, but the feature is hidden behind an entire friendship tree. Even the most dedicated will have hoops to jump through.
Still agreed it's not impossible for exploiters to take advantage of it though.
@kindred fossil we all hear your point, we're just throwing ideas around
Hello, i wanna ask something about the problem. I already go to Eden but why map 2,3,4,5,6 don't open for me go in?
try restarting the app, if the portals are still dark submit a bug report 
When will the dwarf badge be used on the test suit?
It's painful to have a badge but can't use it.
The what badge?
I think they mean the chibi pins not working in beta
Pins generally don’t work in beta. Or it’s not advised to bind them to beta; it’s much better to use them in Live.
VERY DEPRESSED
Good evening, family.
beta chat when there’s not been an influx of new players is really fun to discuss playing since it’s mostly people who are beta experienced but it’s sad to see chat so quiet 
how have u guys been?
mood
yeah same lol
i feel like this is how conversations between amber sugar and sugar glass would go
but that's off topic so i'm gonna drop that 
ofc :D i'll dm u my qr
Okie
Anyone know of any other waterfalls beside in sanctuary? I wanna row my boat of another 1 
There are some issues with the store not working at the moment. I reported it and I know some other players have as well.
Have an idea I’m thinking about leaving in feedback but I’d like to hear your thoughts. What if there was a currency converter that you could convert hearts into candles? Hearts have a much higher value so maybe you would get 10 candles for a heart.
The reason I thought this would be good is when you’ve been playing for a really long time you have many friends and can get a surplus of hearts that you don’t need. You also may not want to do long candle runs everyday, so this could resolve that. I personally would love this!
Thoughts?
i think 10 is a little too much
Its a good idea but may lead to it being abused if its 10 candles, because you can send a heart to a friend for 3 candles. Maybe if the heart can be converted to 3 candles again it may help
Yeah, good points. I see how 3 seems logical, but for some reason it feels low to me. I guess I’m thinking that while you can send one to a friend for 3 candles, you first have to invest in the friendship and level it up, with candles, to be able to send hearts at all. Plus there is the investment of just plain old friendship that is a part of gifting. Maybe 5 candles?
you can just funnel all of your candles through this mechanism and increase your candle count from 300 to 500 if you make the exchange circular 
buying hearts from spirits is also 3 candles, though, which doesn't require the investment. sure, those hearts are finite, but it sets the price for hearts as 3 candles across the board. even a small raise in price like 2 candles would absolutely be taken advantage of. if such a mechanic were introduced, it'd have to be 3 candles
Another good point. 3 it would be. Do folks think it would be beneficial?
Hahaha @desert token ! It would have to just be for hearts to candles. 😂
When is the fest celebration? Before it was around every hour but now I was there n nothing happened?
I hope I’m just misunderstanding your post, because this channel isn’t just for “experienced” beta players, and it’s worth noting that every single tester has started out as a newcomer. The beta benefits from having a variety of experience levels and the perspectives they bring accordingly.
@tough oasis you mean the dragon or the actually in-sky fireworks? Didn’t they change a bit from day to day? 
Yeah, us oldies might be blind to some things.
oh, i didn’t mean that at all
i just meant usually just after a wave people mostly talk about entering beta (plus chat cool-down is super long), so i enjoy the longer discussions people usually have after wave excitement has cooled down
i enjoy the conversations i have with everyone 
the dragon comes every two hours now I think? same hour as geyser
Ahhh sorry for misinterpreting! 
Oh! Okay, thank you
i understand where the confusion may come from, no worries 
Thanks for helping me understand 
dragon comes at each hour, on the hour
Are you playing beta, Nagati? Haven't seen you around for a while.
Ppl
10 candles for 10 seasonal candles still exists?
it's a new thing in the latest build
voi, khe and I didn’t see the dragon on a non-geyser hour - maybe we were bugged?
would be more convenient if it came on non-geyser hours so you could visit them both imo
ah, maybe it's changed for this testing round
Ik
The event is 22 days long
If u send a person a gift a day they will have 220 extra s candles
Ye me either. After the update only came every two hours for me it seems
Only one I remember right now is the one in the Wind Tunnels right out to the exit of Sanctuary!
I'll have to try to check again later.
Yep, it’s a busy time of year but I pop in the beta when I can to give feedback (and better understand what people are talking about in the channels
).
any other beta players having trouble updating the app? testflight stops like 1/4 of the way thru and it’s really getting on my nerves
Make sure you have enough space
I deleted like 1k pics and vids from my phone, after transferring them to my pc
ahhh ok, i’ll go try that
hello everyone again 
Hi
i think everyone forgot we weren’t here 
Was confused too
enchantment was really good, plus it was the first locational season
I want to ride the sea turtle like nemo
only thing was i could never figure out the spell hints 
It’s the only locational season I felt okey with
And sanctuary
i didn’t even join beta during enchantment, i joined for prophecy
sanc and enchantment definitely have the best maps
I joined beta during prophecy too. Have played sky since early enchantment tho
yeah, i joined live for late belonging
I hope after abyss they focus on putting content and adding content into existing maps, maybe a history to isle, like we saw in the Nintendo trailer of sky
we were actually discussing that a while ago, i’d love to see the diving feature implemented into sanc
Yeah I hope so. I really like the cosmetics and maps and new stuff they’re coming out with lately but I feel like it’s slowly edging further and further away from lore and story
there is some lore this season tho, with the leviathan
That’s probably why everyone liked Dream’s so much. It didn’t have sky lore as such but it had a really wholesome storyline
me who had a dream of an Eden season-
but that would be going back into seasonal chat which we just got out of 
True
eden season would be really fun but i think it would be chaos with spoilers 
would still love to see it tho 
Eden season would be so cool!! They could add krill + crab cosmetics
I'm still hoping for a like hologram story in vault where you sit with a spirit and they tell you stories 
ik we had TLP but idk if any of that is sky lore
krill scream
Yep they executed it well, season of flight had no story line, well a story that I’m dumb to understand or that simply wasn’t a good story, the scenes were pretty and area was stunning but story? What do u guys thing, maybe I’m crazy
And I feel like it would be an awesome opportunity to be packed with lore
imagine hanging out in prairie and just hearing a krill
I’m not religious but I’ll start praying anyways 🛐
There was a vague story but only for the spirits in that area, it didn’t really link to the rest of sky at all which is what I think let it down
Hahaha me too 
flight was really forgettable imo 
Yea the story was just like… wait what was the story
save the flying creatures??
Yeah pretty much
Awesome cosmetics and area tho I thought
enchantment was pretty lore-heavy, it set the bar quite high for other seasons
I’m glad someone said it, I remember in beta everyone was like wowww this is so much lore and me with smaller groups were the only one thinking the exact opposite
Yeah that’s true
ngl i only bought the ap for the bird cape bc it reminded me of the concept capes
Yessss
The boats from Flight don't seem to be used anywhere else, maybe they were like the first spirits that were in touch with nature before they started industrializing more although yeah this probably belongs elsewhere
Perhaps the better place to talk about differences and similarities of past seasons is the #seasons-events-chat, since it’s not a beta topic 👀
I’m gonna be honest I’m not gonna pay for abyss, I really hope they make it better
yeah same
I don’t really like the lighting in abyss map too
the vibe of the cosmetics is really fitting but they’re not notable to me
Sorry we’ll talk about the current season
Thé pirate ship lighting is kinda just black from most angles
yeah
i feel like abyss needed to go deeper
lighting’s funky
Oh imagine if the ship moved 
it’s too shallow to feel like a true abyss
but i understand the constraints, i don’t want to complain too much
After the entering underwater, if u explore more it’s pretty dead, and don’t get me started about above ground
I feel like they should just increase oxygen time in general
ok time to point back to #beta-season-test-chat for this topic
otherwise nobody would be able to play or their phones would catch on fire 
Man🤣🤣
lmao

it’s technically a beta testing topic
It did feel like an abyss when it was darker but it was harder to navigate too, maybe if they had bubble patches as beacons you could go deeper
oops sorry Nagati
Congratulations on making it full circle

@tacit sun yeah but we have a channel specifically for it, in part to make it easier for devs to browse when needed 
true true
it used to be one big chat
that was chaos
I’m gonna head to eat, cya everyone♥️
cya
There was a little gift in the inbox I don’t own it but I didn’t get hahaha
did someone ping me? 
does anybody have any idea whether home is going to get the pink grass or not?
pink grass was for Days of Love
I think it was for Days of Love, but I could be mistaken. I thought they added the grass area for Days of Bloom, and then made it pink for Love?
Yes pink grass was for Days of Love
they’ll probably bring it back, they have brought it back in the past
We’re not sure if they’ll do it again though, guess we’ll find out 
the only consistent change is the winter home is always icy, otherwise it can be anything really
home ice rink
💞💗
i was just reading the updates and days of love is returning, so yes we will have pink grass
Is the boat that takes us to the season of abyss area missing for anyone else?
moved to wasteland social space a couple builds ago 
It is returning but we aren’t saw if the pink grass will since it wasn’t in beta
Ah, I’d like to ask if anybody above 120wls got krilled recently and paid attention to the amount of wls they lost? Since in an unfortunate turn of events, we got hit with a friend in the Crystal Bay yesterday, and I went all the way from 121 to 111 at once. Have they increased the max amount of wls we can lose by getting
? Or has it been like this for a while? I usually don’t hug krills, I prefer crabs, so it seems I’m not up to date 
I lost 5
I think the krill damage is also in line with eden damage where higher the WL, the more WLs are lost per hit
Yes, sure seems like it, although it’s the very first time I experience losing 10 winged lights at once to a krill, not even being at 150+ 
Were you low in oxygen?
Because it was not mentioned in patchnotes, I recommend to report it as a bug
It works this way in all realms krills, not eden exclusive
I actually didn’t pay much attention, but maybe…? Mmm, I warped to a friend who was about to get krilled (which I didn’t know about haha); we were both underwater, but I was in the oxygen area right before warping, so I think it shouldn’t be you’re about to lose a wl kind of low. I’ll report it anyway, thank you!
Is
a beta spoiler now?

so uh here’s my situation:
- bought the cracked mask from the abyss guide before the update that removed it as an ult gift
- see the new price for the breathing mask is 2 seasonal hearts
- remember that ive already completed and bought the hearts from 3 spirits (1, again, having been spent on the removed ult gift mask)
- realize that the heart from the 1 spirit i havent completed yet isnt enough to buy the breathing mask, meaning im unable to finish the seasonal constellation
beta consequences go brr
idk if they can do anything about it
can i get an f in the chat then 
i already put one 
Warp fully recharges the other with oxygen and originally not you were underwater (so your breath was full) so it's definitely report worthy
Already reported! 
What is the days of fortune special gifting envelope?
They moved it somewhere else
Try poking around in the social space
You mean the main?
they mean in the wasteland social area! try perhaps looking towards the right side once u enter
go forward until bonfire then turn right
Ohhh tyyy I when to the tornado and when right
Hi
||the new season logo looks like a wi-fi symbol||
Is sound supposed to cut out when you are viewing a friend's avatar from the constellations? That was happening before, and the latest update still has the sound disappear.
if it's supposed to function like last year, it'll gift your friend 5 hearts for 14 candles
it was unaffected by double heart events though
nvm
So the boat to take us to the Crystal Bay disappeared for me is that supposed to happen?
are they still going to add the new friendship constellation to live?
They moved it. Boat is at GW social area now. To the right from the bonfire.
Oh ok thank you so much
No, not as is currently, it’s still under development. No ETA for live release 
Now I can't please my props ( days of love boat) anywhere around me unless farther away
. I hope this doesn't make it to live.
oh okay ty!! :D
definitely leave some feedback about the prop radius, theyre already looking at toning it down
Okay I'll do just that
Same with my torch 
Nah, the seasonal icon reminds me of an Industrial Boring Drill. Like the ones they use to mine with.
GW is known to be harvesting power diamonds, so the drill aspect also fits. 
For all we know, it could be a double entendre in image form.
it could symbolize both a whirlpool and a drill.
I'm very on board with this idea
there's also a mining theme going on in the timeline of the murals so it doesn't feel unlikely
Does the new constellation have less friends than 140?
I don't know if many of us in beta are even close to 140 friends to test that. Last communication to us was the visual limit is 140 friends
Idk my constellation is kinda full, and I’m not seeing new ppl on it when I add them
Be sure to use up all of the favorite sections as they are included in the limit.
So there’s 10 groups plus “extras”. Each group has 8 + 3 “extras” near each group. The last page is extras, but I’m not sure what the max is. I got 17. So 110+17=127
Seems like something to submit to #beta-feedback. Maybe the limit is 127. 
