beta-discussion

[naive solar]

Honestly no, it makes lighting people even more harder and involved

[valid terrace]

my main complaint about the constellations is the lore possibly being retconned if they’re to go through with this

[minor falcon]

I'd love to see prophecy questgiver knitting

[solid dune]

They really added way too many things. Like how is a new player going to understand any of this

[lucid star]

* Points at villain laugh emote* Whatcha got there, Ktjn?
Ktjn: Emitter

[sick pendant]

You guys are sleeping on the fact that

THIS BASICALLY CONFIRMES THE THEORY THAT SKIDS ARE FIRE BENDERS

[finite meteor]

i think did that already

[dry flax]

Whaaa?

[lucid star]

DO NOT do not tease me with this I would EXPLODE

[vapid briar]

I mean... if it were up to me everything would be covered in fire.

[naive solar]

That's also one of my concerns, as a new player I didn't understand anything about the constellations, so I missed out on some Prophecy content

[valid terrace]

maybe the reason Fire Prophet was hiding back in Prophecy Beta is as they were very much aware of the power they could give to skykids and feared it

[sick pendant]

Major Azula vibes

[valid terrace]

who is this Azula not everyone has watched AtLA

[solid dune]

Is that supposed to be a theory, I thought it was just common knowledge. We do just kinda pull a lit candle outta our chest at will

[dry flax]

It is a bugged animation + wonky emitter.

[finite meteor]

ktjn recreating one of my nightmares over here

[lucid star]

Sky: Children of the arson

[dry flax]

And the Fire 🔥 nation attacked

[vapid briar]

Re: it's a little hard to retcon something that has no basis in lore in the first place. Somethingsomethingnotthatdeepfam

[pale junco]

Technically skykids have been fire benders from beginning the candle is there for game play reasons (i think) in concepts skykids only used a flame and their hand like we do in elder cutscenes

[sick pendant]

GO FIRE NATION GO!!!!!

[valid terrace]

ok that explains it

but it shows up in the Vault Elder cutscene? that feels significant
unless I’m wrong, but I tend to be an overanalyst with this game’s lore

[vapid briar]

The significance in the cutscene remains unchanged, but that has no bearing on the friend list

[finite meteor]

can we make joke lore on why the lpp emote suddenly got an entirely different lvl 4

[pale junco]

Oh, my sweet summer child...

[dry flax]

I was about comment the same. Because community built a lore around something it can't become part of core game unless it really does fit into the story TGC wants to tell...

Also a few of my friends are convinced the crab rock/pig rock in dreams oob is a fossilised spirit. They even offer rituals around it occasionally. Now... We can't have that as a spirit in the lore can we? 🤔 😂

[pale junco]

Wrong ping

[sick pendant]

Come through game of thrones reference

[minor falcon]

10 group constellations of 10 isn't enough, I'm swamped

[solid dune]

I mean yeah but it doesn’t take away the fact skids can conjure up a flame at will

[blissful heart]

I updated but still the black screen flashes back

[lucid star]

uh huh

[sick pendant]

KTJN CLONES UNITE! WE SHALL SUMMON THE SPIRIT WHO HAS THAT EMOTE. THEY CLEARLY ARE THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE ENTIRE SKY

[naive solar]

interpretation ruined
literally unplayable

[little nimbus]

oh no dont ping her, ktjn need go to sleep

[solid dune]

[dry flax]

How about adding pages? 🤔 Like same arrangement but page 1..2...3 so when you click on the next page icon u get a New set of 140 friends ... Or may be it will still overload and cause crash and burn

[kindred fossil]

Proclaimed “free thinkers” when they see Grandma knitting

[sick pendant]

if that is an upcoming seasonal emote what cosmetics they would have..... elmo hat

[pale junco]

Matchbox?

[sick pendant]

Flamethrower

[naive solar]

candles no mor-

[dry flax]

If grandma can knit... There are sheeps somewhere in sky! ~ prolly tinhatters

[minor falcon]

at this point full on excel is needed /j

[lucid star]

Those exploding crabs

[vapid briar]

To be fair, lore chat spun up whole backstories for a stretched terrain mesh that looked like it had a shape in it. Kinda like the toast burn mark that looked like Jesus.

[finite meteor]

there are no sheeps. grandma is using grandpa’s hair

[sick pendant]

Side note

The 10 new constellations are officially our zodiac signs.

You are a leo? No you're not, you're a drum

[finite meteor]

what am i if i was a virgo

[valid terrace]

I’m spirit tombstone because spirits

[lucid star]

Assigned crab at birth

[naive solar]

no

[sick pendant]

Crab

[solid dune]

This is like when people were saying there was a pyramid in Loot Lake of Fortnite chapter 1

[minor falcon]

I claim umbrella

[pale junco]

Lore chat is in it's darkest days please leave us alone we don't even have crumbs left now.

[vapid briar]

Grandma only uses organic, free range ethically sourced cloud-threads. As light and fluffy as they come.

[dry flax]

Clicks icon
"Do you want to download the friends list as csv to edit in Excel?"

Clicks yes

Microsoft Windows 11 ad plays followed by office 365

We then get a full list of friends opened automatically in excel if you have it installed

[vast grail]

How lovely to have a tomb zodiac.

[finite meteor]

#so cool #i am stuck in swamp sludge

[agile hazel]

Which month is which zodiac sign? What would a July moth be?

[sick pendant]

Aries is crown
Taurus is pot
Aquarius is umbrella
Virgo is crab

[sick pendant]

Cancer or Leo. Google it

[mighty dome]

aye umbrella

[cursive tinsel]

But there are 12 zodiac signs...and only 10 constellations....

[livid jasper]

me at Sagittarius

[agile hazel]

From the friend constellation signs I mean

[minor falcon]

pisces is mantas?

[valid terrace]

Couldn’t season constellations technically count as that too?
perhaps it’s a two-part system

therefore I am Tombstone-Enchantment

[finite meteor]

steal the seasonal constellations

[pale junco]

How about a message boat at home for every friend instead of constellation😌

[sick pendant]

Yeah about that

Ktjn may we PLEEEEEASE have 2 more constellations? I promise to not cause chaos

[lucid star]

So mean to lore chat
Give us a break, we ate all our crumbs

[cursive tinsel]

Time to make your own constellation lore, sky or other inventions accepted

[dry flax]

Crash and burn definitely. Imagine 500 boats

[vapid briar]

Aquarius is the jar, water bearer. But they poured out the water to make room for butterflies

[finite meteor]

i am dunked in water

[sick pendant]

Season is your moon sign

[cursive tinsel]

So what's the one that looks like a goldfish diving down?

[little nimbus]

wait how about constellation looks like ||a tomb||

[vapid briar]

Wasteland in retrograde

[valid terrace]

it all makes sense oh no
I’m Sagittarius, my first cape was purple, from Dismayed Hunter whom is an archer

it was meant to be in a sense pfft

[finite meteor]

its isle elder’s grave clearly

[sick pendant]

My assembly was in retrograde. That's why I didn't like it

[mighty dome]

would be interesting to have tiny cosmetics symbolizing each zodiac …..

[naive solar]

necklaces

[sick pendant]

Ok we can all agree that gemini is the 2 skids holding hands

[valid terrace]

was going to say “perhaps Chinese zodiac” but then Days of Fortune has the ox mask and

so it does

[minor falcon]

enchantment constellation has vacated the star field memorial, it's back to what it was

[blissful heart]

Is it still not repaired？

[lucid star]

Would Pisces be the manta?

[sick pendant]

Remind me the 10 zodiacs please?

2 skids
Manta
Drum
Crown
Pot
Crab
Thumb

[valid terrace]

thumb

[agile hazel]

Yes, the thumb

[naive solar]

ah, yes
my zodiac sign
thumb

👍

[agile hazel]

Sorry Ktjn but you have to add a thumb constellation now

[little nimbus]

Harp and jellyfish, umbrella

[valid terrace]

very much enjoying how much this zig-zags between genuine thought and criticism and then overly specific jokes

[solid dune]

I just realized why the fire talk was even happening because the emote 😭

[cosmic orchid]

I need a potato constellation

[minor falcon]

20 people per group would feel better, or rather that you could choose the constellation size (8/10/20)

[valid terrace]

veeery worthy criticism, that’d be good

[spark lance]

I like the grouping system but is it just me who misses the old stars look?

[solid dune]

Wait are there even “favorite” friends anymore?

[naive solar]

Honestly I don't miss it at all

[vapid briar]

Wartorn flashback to the Facebook F and the Bluetooth B constellation when serendipity matching was introduced

[gusty haven]

Is there something different between orbit constellation and others? IDK where to start 😄 since before in first page was favorite and active people, now is kinda mess there 😂 and which one kinda "main" page?

[valid terrace]

ah yes, I remember seeing that floating around
that was incredibly surreal

[lucid star]

So I have this really great idea for a new constellation called the king

[solid dune]

I miss the old star design, it was way easier to tell who was lit and who wasn’t. I got on to look at the new system and couldn’t not tell the difference between unlit and lit like heeelpp 😭

[mighty dome]

with this new constellation, if you have too many people added will people still randomly disappear ? also kjtn would you ever consider adding a search bar

[sick pendant]

♈ Crown
♉ Pot
♊ 2 skids
♋ Crab
♌ Harp
♍ Umbrella
♎ Jellyfish
♏
♐ Drum
♑ Gravestone or however you spell it
♒
♓ Manta

[vast grail]

I don’t know, recent update just used so much energy for an hour from my device that it burns and like sucks around 10% quicker (I only ran through Prairie and spinning around in home, organising constellation) than in current live. I wonder if other addition would drain as much…?

[vapid briar]

#beta-feedback

Keep in mind this is the first pass for a system that is going to live on beta for a few months while we gather feedback, polish and continue to iterate. This is not going into 0.15.5

[sick pendant]

Thank you for that

[lucid star]

What about the drum

[opaque swan]

I gave feedback on the graphic changes on my phone

[sick pendant]

I was wondering which one I missed. Thanks

[naive solar]

so correct me if I'm wrong, right now, the icons on the constellation remain the same no matter how much progress you've made with a friend right?

[opaque swan]

I have a question, since the graphics have been improved and visual changes have happened, is it normal for my phone to not be able to handle it? Since my graphics look kinda... Fuzzy? They aren't crisp anymore

[solid dune]

Minimalism strikes again. 🛐

[little nimbus]

||hmm, maybe the message boat is aquarius♒ ||

[pliant rover]

I like the new groupings, but the change of being online, lighting system is confusing..

[naive solar]

so I just got an idea of how it could look when you made progress, remember how a sun is drawn? a small dot could slowly evolve into that. tiny spike looking things surrounding that dot.

[sick pendant]

Minimalism good

Oversimplified bad

[opaque swan]

I don't like the look of the friend constillation— it looks.... Weird and not to mention the big circle one should be allowed to zoom out when lighting, I'm finding it hard to see the difference between things

[strong phoenix]

was saying this in feedback but i can see how some people could potentially rly like a new, minimal design but even as an experienced player the UI changes are kinda disorienting and hard to navigate … i would like to see different options for UI (like the current one in live, minimal, etc)

some of the stuff is really cool though!

[hallow shore]

Many android players are not active in at least four updates now😭😭

[naive solar]

i tie my confusion to this look being new, it'll be better after we spend a week or so to get used to it

[solid dune]

Wait so is favorite friends gone entirely? I cant test cause all my friends are asleep right now, but I certainly don’t see that option on their profile.

[gilded talon]

Wait if the favorite option is gone how do we get notif when our favorite friends get online? I mean I get the notifs now because of whom I previously favorited but what about new friends?

[naive solar]

I think it was replaced with "move your friend” button

[opaque swan]

This change is like... Biiigg yknow? As someone who's been playing for more than a year its really mind boggling to me honestly I wish they kept similar aspects to the old constillation layout where there's a star in the middle of the friend but kept the design in a way, bold white circles are confusing me for some reason

[solid dune]

So does that mean I won’t be notified when some of my friends come online

[opaque swan]

Yeaahh, @solid dune if you want we can test it but only if that's okay with you

[wary star]

i've never been notified, in or out of the app

[opaque swan]

Fav friends? No more
Unless you put them on the crown?

[timid bough]

maybe everyone on the special constellations is counted as favorites

[solid dune]

Sure we can test

[opaque swan]

Okay! I'll be sure to give you my qr soon

[solid dune]

I hope “favorite” isn’t exclusive to the crown because it’s only 8 at max 😭 sorry to say but I have more than 8 favorite friends

[gilded talon]

If it works this way the problem is your favorites will be limited number whereas it wasn’t so before. Also it would be pain to favorite and unfavorite people since you’d have to move things around one by one in your constellation

[opaque swan]

Ahh me too! But it might carry to the other special cons that aren't the big circle atom looking thingy it reminds me of the francium atomic structure

[solid dune]

But even then, it just makes it way more of a hassle of having to move around between 10 different constellations sections

[opaque swan]

Yeaaa

Omg lighting is gonna be so difficult now

[solid dune]

I was excited for the 140 “max” friends displayed but then I realize how long that’ll make lighting friend stars daily become

[opaque swan]

AHHH I HAVE OVER THAT NUMBER OF FRIENDS HAHA

[timid bough]

don't panic so early, give feedback and it would be improved when it gets to live which is months later

[solid dune]

MOOD

[opaque swan]

Ahhhh I'm getting sidetracked, let me get that qr for you do you have a preferred name?

[solid dune]

I’m so picky with rando friends pls like if they don’t light my friend star enough I block them to make room for people that do

You can call me Simon

[opaque swan]

Thank you!

[solid dune]

Then this leads up to tons of “ghost” notifications. Like Live got me malding rn over the “A Friend has lit your candle!” But I have a million people on my block list so it’s impossible to find out who it is doing it and the rED BUBBLE NEVER GOING AWAY

[gilded talon]

That live ghost notif is a resurfaced old prompt and a bug dear

[solid dune]

I’m aware, but it doesn’t make it not bother me any less

[pastel ice]

What if some people have 2000 friends in constellation?

[ruby forge]

2000 friends oh my xD

[opaque swan]

As someone who has the problem of having a lot of friends the cap is painful but there's only so much that can be done

[naive solar]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ruby forge]

I think I've saw a position that you can put infinite friends
& just like before, you need to refresh to search for your friends :(

[agile hazel]

Yeah, they should go into the solar system. Just need to refresh

[minor falcon]

then you suffer

[shrewd needle]

Is anyone else having trouble downloading the latest update? Last night I was unable to, so I decided to leave it until today. However, it still isn't working. In Testflight, it lets me select the UPDATE button, supposedly starts to download, then a few seconds later it quits downloading and goes back to showing that button.

[pastel ice]

Guess will keep blocking ppl then

[hallow shore]

Maybe you have problem with data. Try to delete some trash of off your phone and download again

[agile hazel]

you get a block, you get a block, you all get a block

[iron nacelle]

Mm there is a lot that has to be changed with this new system, lighting friends is very annoying

[limpid crown]

Lighting friends is alot painful now

When I saw the new Constellation update, I was expecting to see a "light everyone" feature, turns out it doesn't even though I know the reason why they aren't adding that feature

[hoary goblet]

But they don't want a light all system cuz it gets rid of the "Lighting is a kind gesture!". I find it really weird considering that every single game that has a friend currency, has a send all/light all system for obvious reasons? I feel like they're trying to be "We're different🥺" type of thing, not in a hateful way at all- But that's what it looks like. Doing the exact opposite of what the player base wants is such a bad road to go down, especially with a large player base. I mean feel free to disagree ofc, and the constellation update is cool but
I still care about lighting all 200 friends within any other game, it's just nice for it to not take half an hour. If anything it makes me care about it more, cuz it takes, what? A second? 🧍

[ashen tundra]

If TGC did a constellation update, they better do an emote tab update for us in the future to easily access our favorite emotes

[lone jackal]

please its so hard to find emotes when you need them, it would be so much better than the current recently used bit

[ashen gull]

Guys I need help. I already updated my Beta sky but when I open it, it keep saying "server error, no authentication info". What should I do?

[iron nacelle]

the chinese servers have a light all feature lol

personally the current state of the ui is a downgrade but i will work on writing feedback for improvements as a lot needs to be done

[ashen tundra]

Take note that the Chinese servers are completely different to what TGC is aiming for in Sky. TGC is going for a more wholesome friendship game so we can make friends with people as well as connections and just like what Toast said. The Chinese servers have other goals in their mind.
They are also run by a completely different company.

[stark cloud]

What are their goals?

[valid terrace]

I’m all for wholesome, just worried for saccharine

the lore is pretty disturbing which is fun to look into but my fear (gladly would never happen) is that being completely retconned for the sake of wholesome

[stoic wedge]

When u still cant access the snowflake accessory

[cobalt jacinth]

As told several times, it's unfair to compare. That server also has force limit how much time you can play it as a minor for example and many other drawbacks.

[hoary goblet]

Goal or not though, they shouldn't straight up refuse a feature that everyone wants, just because they don't want it. A game can be wholesome and have convenient features. I get that they're two completely different companies, but listening to the players isn't netease(?) exclusive. I don't want to compare it to them as Tib said, but TGC is having a thing with not really listening to players. Sometimes they do tho, and sometimes they just don't

[kindred fossil]

If they don’t want to grant a light-all feature, I’d prefer if lighting one by one is less nauseating, it’s moreso than before with how the camera pans

[naive solar]

if they're not gonna add a light all feature, at least they can make it easier to light people

[iron nacelle]

lighting people in current live constellation is much better than what has been prototyped right now in beta

[valid terrace]

the camera pan is jarring enough, this is a good idea in theory but seems to ultimately worsen some things

[iron nacelle]

aswell as being jarring, it makes lighting people take longer as you have to wait for it to pan all the way down to get the option to light

[valid terrace]

also I really don’t like it being dots
this is a prototype etc but it had better be stars later, more in-line with the theme

[naive solar]

i just don't want to spend my limited time trying to light everyone's candles, and get one back because it's supposed to feel like I am spending my time for them

[timid bough]

wait.... im pretty sure netease server doesn't have a light all feature

[pale junco]

Is it just me or constellation zooms in too much 👀
Also the realm constellation update seems unnecessary

[iron nacelle]

they have a quick light feature which brings up a row with all names which u can tap easy and scroll through

[valid terrace]

something like that in international would be very convenient
not saying it’s better as a result but

[naive solar]

that's what I'm saying

[iron nacelle]

i like the two buttons along the bottom to switch between player constellation and spirit constellation however i liked scrolling through in a circle

[naive solar]

it's literally a hassle to

• Open constellation
• Press on player
• Light candle
• close player
• open another player
• light player
  and repeat

[iron nacelle]

scrolling from vault to than the player constellation is one thing i like that has been in for a very long time

its currently a huge downgrade due to the amount of increased time it takes to do a relatively boring repeat process

[opaque swan]

I can't force my sky to go dark

[kindred fossil]

I don’t think so, I actually like how it looks & works better than it does friend constellation, although it might be confusing for players who aren’t familiar with every single spirit as I am

[cobalt jacinth]

Your precious thoughts in a kind way would make an excellent #beta-feedback

[valid terrace]

report that, I’d really like that to stay a thing because the bright light hurts my eyes and I turn it to night for convenience

[stark cloud]

Imagine if friend constellation can hold 2000 people.
You need to light them one by one 2000..everyday..
Come on skybot

[gilded parrot]

[naive solar]

the bloom effect is literally blinding

[tacit niche]

I honestly don't understand TGC's point in saying that they don't want to add the light all function because they want to fortify friendships...
There are much better ways to do this, and honestly, in practice it's just something boring to light one by one

[valid terrace]

It’s just me being me with the mental conditions I have but this amount of change is distressing

[iron nacelle]

well that is if you have 2000 friends that play often

[kindred fossil]

I feel it would be easier to navigate each constellation with ◀️/▶️, I don’t understand the need to keep zooming in/out

[iron nacelle]

THIS, arrows on the side that lead to other friends would be a game changer

[valid terrace]

Plus, it feels more immersive with the idea of looking up at the stars for it to rotate that way

[tacit niche]

When I had suggested something similar with the groups a long time ago in another account, I said it would be interesting to have two clickable constellations for each part (considering the 5 constellation parts of the global)

the way they did it's quite messy

[ornate summit]

Honestly i don't mind the changes made. I love them. Will find out of they are if any inconvenience but I was expecting features like unfriend and light all constellations :/

[tacit niche]

I would like to know when a person was last online too :/

[naive solar]

the constellation could also have a “light player” mode that when it's active, you can press on player stars to light their candles

[tacit niche]

I don't know what's wrong with this feature, it's the fairest way to know if someone has stopped playing for real and to free up space for other friends

[valid terrace]

I hope realm constellations haven’t been touched, they’re fine as they are

it’s inconvenient to zoom in and out all the time if that’s the case

[ornate summit]

Don't we just have to click on the constellation group our friend is in and it will automatically zoom in? I haven't tested it out yet since I don't have any friends in beta

[naive solar]

I geniunely don't want to do this +140 times on live, you might as well remove all of the realms and make the entire game this

[timid bough]

i still don't see anything on the netease server to speed up the lighting process

[gusty haven]

Need to put some efford to send little peace of heart and to thank to every person. Not just to throw like some garbage...

[ornate summit]

I don't think so. It just automatically zooms in and out, we don't have to do it manually

[timid bough]

the only issue i have with lighting is the constant camera panning

[tacit niche]

Well... I honestly see the exchange of fragments more as a way to have hearts, and not as a way to say "thank you for being my friend"
This gift would be the hearts themselves for candles actually

[ornate summit]

Wait there are people like u who support their statement?

[naive solar]

yeah I don't think people are sending heart fragments to thank the person for being their “friend”

[ornate summit]

Yeah and plus we would be kinda in a way saying thank you to all people at the same time

[orchid terrace]

You know it’s actually kinda worse to say you gotta give thought into lighting everyone when at some point people would just stop lighting entirely since it’s just so tedious to constantly tap friend, tap candle icon, zoom out, rinse and repeat

[tacit niche]

And let's not forget that if you don't do this, some people may block you for not helping with frag

[gusty haven]

Dont forget that now is just step 1, we need to send feedback about our experiance and sudgestions how can improove and to make our life easer

[ornate summit]

Yep!

[gusty haven]

Just say you are lazy to lit 🤣

[tacit niche]

So the whole community is lazy.

[late sonnet]

Say that when you have 400+ friends

[tacit niche]

And if the whole community is "lazy", TGC must please the lazy. It's that easy

[timid bough]

i mean nobody likes to do more labour when they can lessen it

[tacit niche]

We have to remember that Sky is a game and games are for entertainment, if you see entertainment in doing something that is tiring + boring, then okay.

[gusty haven]

Well not all 400+ people are active and you lit just active people

[timid bough]

well i would like all the cosmetics to be free, i can say many agree too but we don't see that happening do we

[orchid terrace]

Well what if all 400+ are active 🤨

[naive solar]

this is a video game, not a job, and if a video game feels like a job it's not gonna be fun

[pliant oracle]

The constellations in the live version have already caused complaints about convenience, but in the beta version it causes horror.

[chrome cypress]

In the current state of the constellation in beta, i can only say that if something like this will came in live,it will really makes me want to stop give lights.
Literally is boring and mechanical thing to do, and it wastes a lot of your time that i could spend with friends and do other things.

[naive solar]

if that's lazy from your perspective then I happily admit I am the laziest person to ever exist

[tacit niche]

More than 80 people I have as friends are active in the game, some don't exchange fragments precisely because it's a waste of time and tiresome

[gusty haven]

If everything would be free and everything to make fast, then people quickle become bored and left game

[gritty wyvern]

Honestly I don't see why not a "light all" feature, the reasoning the developers gave doesn't match with the way players see the feature. Players take advantage of the feature to gain hearts, so why refuse to add a shortcut just because "it's a gift"? If they are going to make lighting friends harder, they might as well give us light all

[orchid terrace]

Having to light is just

“Argh gotta give some 1/60 of a fragment so my friend can get hearts 😫”
And
“I don’t like seeing things undone in my constelli”

[pliant oracle]

My bro

[sullen relic]

Coming in from a different angle for a second: my opinion is that TGC would be more likely to remove sending light gifts entirely rather than adding a "light all" function to the constellation, because I don't think they'd be interested in letting us earn hearts that way if the design didn't support the idea of time, effort and gratitude spent on sending lights to friends. I don't disagree that a "light all" function would be very convenient to us as players -- I just don't think that's a motivating factor behind the design of the feature at all from their end of things.

[tacit niche]

Because TGC tries to ignore the fact that there is a large "trade" of friendships in the game, such as altars and boats, and also quantity = more hearts

[late sonnet]

TGC markets the game to be about altruism, so you give something to help other players.
Having lights be an alternative (although slower) method to earning hearts is very useful
Not everyone has friends who are willing to trade hearts

[gritty wyvern]

I don't think many players even see the feature as a gift of gratitude

[orchid terrace]

I’m honestly wondering how they first thought out this whole process, considering they don’t like the heart trading system the community has used

Like why y’all making things so expensive like a bajillion fragments just to finish a realm 😔

[chrome cypress]

Some people already left the game because they felling it boring and repetitive.
The fact that some mechanics,like gives lights to every single friends, make it even more bad is a point against the game.

[sullen relic]

Only speaking for myself here, but I can say I treat every light fragment I get as both a signal that they're still around and as a greeting -- I'm happy to get a response back when I send light. Can't speak for anyone else though

[hoary goblet]

Giving feedback is a good way to voice your opinions, but the Devs themselves said they don't want a light all feature 'just because it's convenient'. And whoever said that the game gets boring if everything is fast and easy, I can assure you that's never the case😕 Sure you might find it boring, but I can definitely say that 90% if the players would want it. And every mobile game company knows this. Lighting 400+ people a day is what gets repetitive and boring

[tacit niche]

It's effortless in lighting people up, it's just repetitive. And the gratitude comes only that you will have more fragments at the end of the day (for maybe a daily heart). The heart mechanic is broken by itself because it's not based on friendship interactions such as the friendship tree being evolved, or you spend time with a certain person and your fragments are more powerful. It's totally based on how many people you have in the constellation

[gusty haven]

It's kinda many people see just a surface and dont see how deep ideas TGC are. It's like you want fast food and TGC making gourmet dish

[naive solar]

tgc making gourmet dish? what?

[nova bay]

I love that idea of when you have more friendship unlocked with a friend their heart fragments are more powerful

[orchid terrace]

What would y’all opinions be on if they made forging hearts faster, like 60 fragments per heart to like idk 10?? 20?? Fragments per heart

[tacit niche]

If players have not adapted with a developer's idea, it's the developer who is to blame for the design issue.

[cursive tinsel]

Or light all in each friend constellation?

[nova bay]

I am still trying to overcome my initial confusion with the constellation update before I can phrase some intelligent sounding feedback

[gusty haven]

That is good idea

[naive solar]

I honestly don't, and I find it ridiculous that people are romanticizing a currency

[hoary goblet]

That'd make getting hearts too easy, just make a light all feature 😭

[nova bay]

Its ely that said it

[tacit niche]

Yep, you would have to work hard for your friends in a way that you both gain by fortifying the friendship with more interactions, I think is much more correct.

[cursive tinsel]

Cynically it's a currency system that keep players logging in each day to earn rewards (cosmetics) , similar to the costs of SC in seasons to get players to log in each day.

[gritty wyvern]

Why would TGC dismiss a widely-asked suggestion just because it goes against their design ideas?

[timid bough]

because they have their own ideas

[stark cloud]

Own goals

[orchid terrace]

Why don’t they just test it out in beta and see how it goes or somethin
Kinda like the test of back when they tried making it so you have to have owned the adventure pass of the season’s spirit so you can buy the previously AP items or whatever 🗿

[gritty wyvern]

They quite literally did the opposite of a light all function, they made lighting friends harder

[tacit niche]

Simple: TGC is making things last longer and longer. Complete candle runs take longer, getting items from travelers + events take longer,...

[gusty haven]

Dont forget main game idea

[spark lance]

Evil laugh emote evil laugh emote eden season??!

[pliant oracle]

We must not forget that Sky is a social game, the meaning of which is built on communication, all cosmetics serve as a decoration and wrapper. The system should facilitate interaction between people, not expose obstacles. It is already difficult for people to find a common language with others, especially from different countries, and the opportunity to get a little more hearts in order to open the 3rd or 4th level of emotions is not a crime.

[sullen relic]

I'm not entirely sure where you're coming from, but an easy example comes to mind for the way I'm reading that question right now: most players would probably enjoy it a lot of all the cosmetics were suddenly reduced to 0 cost -- TGC would never do that because that'd completely break the economy of the game, regardless of how widely requested such a thing would be.

[ashen tundra]

I see a conflict about feeling and thinking here. Some people don't want a "light all" feature for sentimental reasons, while others like it for convenience. Personally I'm ok wether we do get a light feature or not. Just adressing what I have seen on both sides so far.

Although I do agree they have to atleast make lighting friends easier. I am about to suggest in feedback maybe "tap once" on friend's name to give light and "tap twice" to view the friend.

[naive solar]

tap twice to unlight

[spark lance]

But Y

[stark cloud]

Sky main game, relive spirit memory, collect winged light, saved statue at Eden, die, reborn, repeat...

[orchid terrace]

why would you unlight a friend 😟

[spark lance]

Hmm maybe to avoid “lighting all friends” burnout and keep things sentimental… why not limit the light you can give out per day?

[gritty wyvern]

That was never my point It was saying, why would they reject the light all function, just because it makes the gift less valuable, it's not like many players treat it as a gift anymore. It's quite cliché

[cursive tinsel]

Or a button like edit mode where you can then tap each node in the constellation?
But that would mean you can't 'see' them /less personal?

[pliant oracle]

Forever 🤣

[naive solar]

i still stand by my suggestion of making the lighting process easier and more convenient if you're not gonna add a way to light everyone at once

[orchid terrace]

Man why can’t our sky kids just grab a flame thrower and light everyone at once 😔

[cobalt jacinth]

Maybe in next "Season of Fight" we will get one

[ashen tundra]

I think Jini means that "others want lighting friends to be fast and convenient without considering the sentimental purpose that comes with personally lighting a friend"

I don't think all of us are ignoring the "sentimental" part of this discussion. It's just that the way we are lighting friends nowadays is honestly a bit of a hassle in my opinion

[orchid terrace]

SEAOSN FO FIGHT- IMD EAD WHEEEZE 😭🖐

[spark lance]

Sky children of arson I see😭

[sullen relic]

Ah, I sort of touched on my thoughts about that earlier in here: I think they're actually more likely to remove light gifts entirely from the game if they think that players no longer see them as gifts -- which would then make a "light all" function an even less likely thing for them to add, if that's actually the way they see it. What we wanted with the light-all functionality would've been completely against their intentions to begin with in that scenario

[spark lance]

How are we supposed to get hearts if we're too broke to send them??

[naive solar]

i don't see lighting people sentimental at all, or hearts as gifts

[pliant oracle]

There is an insidious proposal for TGC, to make the function "light all" by money, If a person does not want to waste time he can solve the issue with money shegs once and for all, the will want to buy himself this function (as a cloak for entering the office).

[naive solar]

no.

[gritty wyvern]

Please don't let paywalls spread to other stuff rather than cosmetics

[spark lance]

Amen.

[orchid terrace]

2025: Socialising? Yeah there’s a tax for that

[ashen tundra]

I see the same thing, but I am also considering others that do find it to be sentimental. Altough I hope TGC does find a way to make lighting friends easier.

[gusty haven]

I dont say that devs should not search solutions to improove, but also many people play this game because of game idea

[cobalt jacinth]

I understand your feelings about lighting people but please remind that this channel is for chat about testing current features. Other discussion would be great in other channels

[naive solar]

new constellation is a feature in testing

[faint comet]

That's the thing, if for example, "Light ALL/Receive ALL Lights" Button will come to fruition (just an example) you can't really say it wouldn't be misused to the point that folks will only add players just for the sake of getting easy Heart Fragments and with "Light ALL/Receive ALL Lights" Button it would be a lot more convenient to do so.
This is not me discriminating those folks who only add players just for Heart Fragments, they can play it the way they want to, just pointing out Heart Fragments are supposed to be treated as gifts as token of Friendship not as Currency.

[spark lance]

Passive aggressive

Cough in android too

[robust delta]

i just wanna quote my brother quote here "the new friendlist constellation are not stars, they're balls, BIG B A L-"

[valid terrace]

I light people to let them know I exist more than anything, to be honest

[stark cloud]

Heart fragments not a currency. Confirmed. /j

[pliant oracle]

Something is in this thought, perhaps. But as voiced earlier, if not a button for All, then at least to simplify as much as possible,

[spark lance]

I've honestly gotten burnt out lighting all my friends, but I do want to light them and I need the heart fragments cuz I can't buy hearts

[limpid crown]

I almost stopped lighting up everyone in my constellation and just don't collect all of the lights they gave to me there. It's always exhausting.

[valid terrace]

my worry with this is not the criticism but rather if it’ll be taken or not

very much wanting it to be

all of this is very valuable feedback though, I’m glad

[limpid crown]

If only there's an easier way to light everyone without getting exhausted/burnt out. It's always the same everyday

[valid terrace]

personally I don’t really bother, but I see the want to and want that to be improved on

[hoary goblet]

Heart are a currency at the end of the day though. I think this just goes back to the multiple past discussions how weird the currency is. Purely relies on friends (other than spirits that have a limit) Regular const cosmetic rely on hearts, certain props needs hearts, and they expect people not to treat it as a currency, when it is? There isn't a game with a currency this important that 100% relies on active friends and friendships. They're setting the expectations way too high, they're seeing that people aren't happy with the heart currency and still persist, and go on to say 'but it's wholesome!' 😟 Forcing players to be wholesome will just never work

[cosmic orchid]

introducing a new trial in Cave of Prophecies called "Trial by Combat*"

[ashen tundra]

I don't light all of my friends everyday. I only light them either when they are online the time I'm online, just all of the favorite friends or just not light any at all.

I personally don't bother or mind wether someone gives me light or not. I'm quite a busy person so I can't light all my friends everyday. It would be great if they tackle this problem of lighting friends and add new features to improve.

[cosmic orchid]

I don't see the context

[spark lance]

in android questions

[pliant oracle]

For those who think that the economy of the game will be broken, I share my experience. Now in the live version I have a friend who has been playing for a year, she already has all the elders and at the moment about 700+ hearts. The fact is that the presence of the player's hearts does not affect the gameplay itself, because they simply have nowhere to spend, a very limited offer in the store

[gritty wyvern]

Maybe if there were less limited time items that costed hearts, people wouldn't misuse the light feature

[naive solar]

That's an interesting idea, could you provide examples?

[gritty wyvern]

I'm not sure what do you mean by examples Examples on?

[stark cloud]

Example, buy cape with Ascended Candle /j

[faint comet]

Yes, I definitely agree that it's a currency and that's the drawback with my statement. Tho what I really wanted to point out on that is "Light ALL Friends/Receive ALL Lights" could easily be potentially misused by the players that they would rather resort to getting an easy Hearts from Hearts Fragments rather than valuing the main point of adding a player in game, which is Friendship.

And you definitely made a great argument

[naive solar]

said limited time items, and how that would drive people to not misuse lighting feature.
Would the items be functional? Cosmetic? etc

[bold vault]

does anyone know how many friends are visible with new constellations?

[naive solar]

140 IIRC

[gritty wyvern]

I'm assuming you meant scenarios that discourage players from adding friends for the sake of hearts?

[pliant oracle]

You need to be realistic that a person will not communicate with 400 friends. More often cr is done with a limited circle of friends 3-4 people.

[cosmic orchid]

keep the replies back in the proper channels, what you said totally lacks context in the current topics in beta

[gilded basin]

i'm not op but the first thing that comes to mind is that almost every event item that costs hearts costs a lot more than 10 hearts which is already expensive, which is 1) not moth-friendly since they rarely have that many friends and/or candles and 2) encourages people to break tos by using alts or doing heart trades since you can only get one heart per friend per day, which makes it literally impossible to get certain items within the given timeframe without having saved up beforehand or going out of your way to trade

[zenith mist]

the reasoning behind not giving a light all feature honestly feels really hokey to me. when all my friends and i were moths, we added a bunch of people solely so we could get hearts. and a lot of people do the same. theyre not being a bad friend, or not understanding the game or whatever
also, my reasoning behind wanting a light all button is i suffer from wrist pain and lighting all my friends hurts my wrists. i cant imagine doing the repetitive action of lighting 140 people is going to feel much better

[chrome cypress]

Idk about others, but i don't add players randomly because i need light from them or trade but because i genuinely interested in them.
So the "lights all" function will not change nothing for me except made my life more easily and lose less time.

[zenith mist]

it feels like this message of friendship and love that most people might not even think of is being given greater importance than an accessibility option

[naive solar]

in that case, wouldn't more limited time items drive people to misuse light feature more?

[gilded basin]

yes that's literally my point
the point is that a light all feature would help mitigate that by making hearts easier to get for everyone

[orchid terrace]

Till this day I still struggle getting to 10 hearts because TS and event items

[naive solar]

gotcha

[gritty wyvern]

For my case, I've added 70+ daily lighters for the sake of hearts. Most of my hearts come from these light fragments and them also liking my meditation notes. A light all feature would save my time to light all of them, especially with this new UI, it might take longer. I wouldn't have added friends for hearts if there were less limited items. You know, ts emotes and all

"If they want to encourage players to bring back the original motive of lighting friends, they should make players less obligated to get the most hearts they can"

[cosmic orchid]

aight, imma feedback

remove light gifts feature, reduce heart prices

[naive solar]

same

Remove friendship

[faint comet]

Remove everything /j

[naive solar]

not like this game has a unique social experience where you can hold your friend's hand or hug them or unlock friend emotes anyways

[hoary goblet]

Dbsldn I think you make a good point too, but in all honesty the fragment system is already getting misused. So if they want to avoid that, like it's not already getting taken advantage of, they would need an entirely new system. Heart gifting also gets misused with buying iaps/ap for hearts, or just heart trading. The issue is that they keep masking it as a 'wholesome gifting!', denying features that would make things easy, don't fully support heart trading because it's meant to be a 'gift'. It's normal to use people for friend currency, everyone does it within every mobile game that has a friend currency, and they're trying to be different. I've a feeling they thought it would evolutionary to base a game on friendships and forced wholesomeness. And it's not working

[cosmic orchid]

people are rather so attuned on getting as much hearts and candles as they can because the prices are quite hard to reach, especially heart-wise

[latent oar]

Solo yolo Sky's adventure with NPC (e.g. Little Prince)

[gilded basin]

YEAH like i thought the friendship part was like. the part where you make friends, not pressing 100+ buttons every morning

[naive solar]

wait that was sarcasm

[zenith mist]

i think if we just don't add new features bc there's a chance they might be abused by someone we're never gonna get anywhere. someone might abuse heart trading, iap gifting, or ap gifting, but i think the game is better off having these things anyway
besides, abusing the light all button isnt really.. bad or a big deal? they'd be using the feature as intended, and if they don't see heart fragments as a token of friendship anymore, thats fine. a lot of people dont see it that way anyway. that doesnt make them a bad player, or friend. and that's not going to stop you from seeing heart fragments as sentimental, so why does it matter

[hoary goblet]

It'd make things 10x easier if they just accepted hearts as a currency

[pliant oracle]

Based on this thought, we can offer to make a button "light group". But this whole idea with groups is a routine. I just see the point of dividing friends by group,for what Filters?

[chrome cypress]

Yes i get ur point.
I get my hearts from meditation and one/two from lights frames., all others from trades.
But i also think that add randomly people with the current state of the constellation "hiding problem"
Is a lot disadvantageous, i personally don't wanna lose 2 hours for light all

[opaque swan]

Oh btw, the 5 singular constillations can hold up to 40 people, 8 being in each

The rest of the friends go into the circle and also you can't favourite or unfavourite from the constillation anymore

[gilded basin]

what kills me is that a light all feature wouldnt even do much of anything but cause less wrist pain and take a few minutes out of your routine because you only get, what, a 60th of a heart from each friend? most people would only end up getting One (1) heart a day or less from it and that's assuming all their friends are active and that they have more than 60 friends

[gritty wyvern]

I want y'all ideas/opinions on this:

I think, if they want to refuse the "light all" feature just because it is against the original motive of the light feature, don't you think it would be valid if players treated as like its original purpose? Right now, the reasoning is invalid, surely players have 140+ friends only for fragments. Majority of friends (including me) use the feature to gain hearts for the sake of these limited items. A light all feature would be great. If they aren't going to encourage players to go back to the original purpose, don't you think they should just accept this famous idea? It's not our fault we use the system for hearts, after all, there's just too much to catch up.

[hoary goblet]

Also meditation notes also get misused- There are people that get online at reset, get their 20 friends 'use' them and like their notes, so they can get a heart and a thousand likes for the funsies. They can't avoid it, and trying to avoid it by implementing features that no one wants and refusing to implement other features, well that's not going to go well is it

[gilded basin]

YEAH, either make heart items less expensive and only have them be friendship-related things like chat objects or gifts for your friends, or accept that they're a currency and make them less obtuse to get

[hollow compass]

I definitely don’t have friends just to get hearts and fragments. That’s really not what the game is about for me. It’s a nice side effect of having many active friends, but not the only reason I add someone.

[opaque swan]

I just have a lot of friends becuase I uber

[zenith mist]

if there's a way to misuse a new feature, people will find a way to misuse them. do they just not add new features because of them? why punish everyone for this?

[orchid terrace]

I don’t friend a lot of people because I don’t like talking to a lot of people

[cosmic orchid]

I don't have a lot of friends because I fly solo

[hoary goblet]

They insist on giving feedback yet don't listen to the most popular feedback, or just say 'no♥️', which looks a lil iffy to me.
Holding hands feature gets misused then as well, because people uber. They might as well just get rid of the entire game then💀

[gilded basin]

sometimes i wonder if the fact that hearts are supposed to be gifts is even taken into account anymore considering how so many items are 20+ hearts and how they have nothing to do with friendship
like theyre cute items but i don't know what the bloom hair or pride earring have to do with friends, for example

[opaque swan]

I offer to uber in the server so my constillation gets really full and at this point it's stressful to light everyone so I end up just not doing it, and with due time I get around 2 hearts daily becuase of it

[gritty wyvern]

Without having friends to light me back, I wouldn't have completed constellations WHILE affording TS emote upgrades and events

I'm very dependent of these friends, so if TGC made less limited items, I might start to see the light feature as a gift, but for now, I'll use it for hearts

[opaque swan]

I still think an unfriend option would work for people who don't light/talk to you anymore

[chrome cypress]

This remember me about cherry tree and afk system 🙃

[zenith mist]

nobody say "just don't get the items" like the afk timer discussion

[orchid terrace]

And thus we have to spam honk everytime we see the Z’s 😔

[cosmic orchid]

if the suggested feature follows their design then I don't think they'll be against to it
they're not punishing players for not implementing this, its against their ideals from what I understand
it's not like the completely ignore feedback anyway, if they did then they wouldn't have made a clarification about this suggested feature

[opaque swan]

They have been for a while doing the survey about constillations in beta asking what people wanted changed in the future

[chrome cypress]

I really want it for that people that stoped play game like almost immediately, sadly all mothsm

[gilded basin]

honestly with the way we have to spend so long getting hearts, i feel like the original message of the friend star system was a little corrupted, like instead of it being a nice gift you get from time to time it's more like you only have friends for their hearts
which obviously isn't the case, but if we're going to get symbolic about it them we should look at how that symbolism looks with the current system

[hoary goblet]

They don't completely ignore feedback I agree, but they do ignore and refuse the most asked features/feedback. Or implement features that no one wanted 😕

[naive solar]

• Game needs to foster interaction rather than forcing it
• Heart fragments should increase the more you make progress with a friend
• Make lighting friends easier, because it feels like a chore and takes up too much time

[gritty wyvern]

Well yeah, I am aware that the feature goes against their designs. The problem is, not many players see it as their original design anymore. So why should they still follow that design when players don't see it that way? Or at least encourage (not forcing) players to use features as designed?

[opaque swan]

Yknow with the amount of friends I have it takes up to 20 minutes for me to light everyone there

[gusty haven]

Instead of discusion how i hate curent system, would be better to discuse how to improove old system

[naive solar]

I geniunely find it funny that a player doing chibi fall in vault fosters more interaction than the intended method of waiting for a fourth player

If you don't want people to do something you dislike, offer a better alternative or let them do that

[gritty wyvern]

If I didn't block my friends, I might also relate to that. If there was a light all feature, I would gladly unblock everyone, inactive or not, everyone gets a fragment and I don't have to sweat it

[chrome cypress]

This!
They also said game isn't like was supposed to be in original concept, and during the years of development is changed.
So why it shouldn't still changed and evolved now?

[cosmic orchid]

I feel like having the "light all/gather all" function would basically make players see other players as some form of currency now

I just want heart prices to lower a bit so every heart gift gets more weight and meaning

[hoary goblet]

If they wanted a game to be 100% to their design/idea, then they shouldn't have publicised the game to be honest, and just kept the project to themselves

SoRRY DIDNT MEAN TO REPLY AHSKAND

[tacit niche]

and people dont see like it?

[zenith mist]

i think the thing i find annoying about not adding the light all button is that it's not because it would break the economy or the heart fragment system, but because it goes against a sentiment about friendship that most people might not share or even think of while playing the game. certainly not enough people do to outweigh the demand of a light all button. forcing the painstaking process of lighting everyone at a time isn't going to make people appreciate their friends more, it's going to make people avoid sending heart fragments to their friends entirely

[hoary goblet]

Hearts are a currency

[gritty wyvern]

But I already do regardless of the absence of a light all feature

[olive gorge]

they should allow us to light friends on the constellation instead of having us open each friend menu individually

[cosmic orchid]

In one way or another
I don't think we can fully remove someone's perception of seeing other players as a means of acquiring currency if they're steadfast about that view

even if they unlocked many interactions with the player such as friend emotes and such, if they see them as a means of currency, then all those unlocks would basically fall into investment for more consistent heart source

[hoary goblet]

Yeah we can't, and TGC is trying to remove it through forced wholesomeness and friendships

[zenith mist]

i don't think adding people for heart fragments is that cold??? i still hang out with the people i add and i enjoy seeing them around. we're not like.. sociopaths

[gritty wyvern]

Encourage, not force

[minor falcon]

I think this new system will work quite well for folks with fewer than 80 friends

[cosmic orchid]

if I continue to view players like that, then I don't see myself socializing anymore, it would all feel fake

[zenith mist]

you can feel like that, but i dont think you should assume that everyone who adds people for heart fragments just doesn't care about their friends at all.. if anything it helps me meet new people and get to know them the longer i have them friended. i probably wouldnt have added them otherwise

[wet monolith]

I’m not a beta tester and is a fairly new player. I also dont have much friends cos im an introvert and prefer to play solo. But i’d like to chime in, i do agree the current way of lighting friends is too tedious and takes too much times. Also if hearts supposed to represent “friendship” then it should only be used to advancing the friendship tree (getting piggy back, warp function, etc) instead of AC. And rare (aka heart expensive) cosmetics should cost AC since that will show that certain player is a vet since they been thru ||eden|| a lot of times to get those stuff.

[abstract nacelle]

woah, fragments as a friendship upgrade

[pliant oracle]

We're devoting too much to a function that doesn't exist (Light all button). I think that from the easy and intuitive interface, we got an unfinished product, more like a smartphone display. There are no more simple swipes, I could flip through all my friends and constellations at the same time in one motion

[gritty wyvern]

And these rare cosmetics shouldn't be limited for a short period of time so players don't stress on going eden weekly and recollecting wl

[neat bolt]

would also be nice to have more things in general to spend ac on, using AC for upgraded cosmetics makes so much sense it hurts

[zenith mist]

hearts are used for expensive and limited time things. it could take a year or more for some cosmetics or emotes to return, and that forces players that want them to become desperate and add a bunch of people for fragments or solicit heart trades

[cosmic orchid]

I met a player who basically just friended me to do the for a quest, which, in turn, I laid down a table to tell them that Assembly QG would be more ideal without them using up candles. I got called annoying and a waste of time.
yeah it made quite an impact to me

[gritty wyvern]

Geez, it's their fault for not knowing about a shortcut, they shouldn't have called you annoying, tsk tsk

[late sonnet]

don't you have to complete a few of the assembly quests to unlock the high five? if my memory recalls

[hoary goblet]

O I'm sorry😭 They shouldn't have called you annoying no. I always let people know they can high five the quest giver if they have them unlocked. But there's usually no malicious intents behind people doing this. So many people go to #looking-for-group-live , or seek friends they've spoke to once 2 months ago in their constellation for quests like hand holding, because TGC'S way to force friendships isn't working

[inland pier]

Eh, I honestly don't like the constellation display design ... . It is very uncomfortable ...

[spark lance]

isn't that why hearts are use to buy stuff?

[spark lance]

Would be better if there were week long quests one could do for hearts

[minor falcon]

friendship constellation ui changes will be in beta for months, the best thing we can do is consider what we like and don't like about each version and submit #beta-feedback

[pliant oracle]

Absolutely (isportili igru polnostyu)

[naive solar]

what

[cosmic orchid]

yes the hearts are currency but the friends shouldn't be viewed the same,
they made hearts as gifts so that the cosmetics we use them on weigh more because the hearts we got for them came from the help of friends
this ideal as been greatly clouded in these times

[zenith mist]

maybe the questgiver could give quests that allow you to get hearts or heart fragments? i really think there should be a way to get at least a heart a day without depending on other people

[inland pier]

I hope they will change it all afterwards as normal ...

[hoary goblet]

English only, mods can't moderate other languages

[ornate summit]

Wdym? Besides the icons, I think it looks mesmerizing, the way we zoom in and out. Everyone has their own opinion I guess

[spark lance]

TGC could have use AC to buy other cosmetics aside from spells...

[ornate summit]

That would be nice

[inland pier]

The problem is, it's just awkward. The old constellation display looks more comfortable than the new one, to be honest ...

[stark cloud]

Example, cape with 200 AC

[cosmic orchid]

AC would be nice if it had more uses

[trim spade]

Oh boy it’s one of those long paragraph days lol

[spark lance]

That gives new players with less friends an opportunity to buy cool cosmetics

[agile hazel]

Either the cost needs to be lowered or we need to earn more AC per run, cause that takes 13 weeks to farm lmao

[zenith mist]

imo tier 2 capes costing a ton of ac shows someone is a dedicated player more than than costing hearts

[spark lance]

That gives new players with less friends an opportunity to buy cool cosmetics

[ornate summit]

I am sorry I can't understand the adjectives ur using :/ oh well, u probably have a good reason for ur opinion so it's fine! I don't want the navigation design to fully go away but I hope they improve the new constellation a lot!

[hoary goblet]

Yeah this whole system with the completing constellations is like "I'm cooler than you cuz I've more friends"???

[gilded basin]

PLEASE, i have more ac than white candles and it's making me go feral
i don't know what to do with all these ac since i'm already at a height i like and have a lantern,, the only thing i can think of is maybe bonfire spells but i already have a torch and a few chat props so it's useless to me

[cosmic orchid]

currently the new constellation is pretty early,
it's like they currently focused on the groundwork and making sure everything works,
I think appearance and display will come later on
feedbacks on it is certainly welcome and would help it improve more

[sly arch]

Here’s a Question… (and yes it’s will be related to The Friendship Constellation since I’ll need it to submit a feedback)
When you using a Nintendo Switch docked, do you look up on the TV or look down on the TV.
And no it’s not related to how should the TV mounted… (lot of people asked this on Google so I can’t find the right answer for this)

[ornate summit]

Yeah that's what it looked like to me too. Of course by seeing our feedback will they be able to improve it but it only seems to be a groundwork.

[upper plank]

the constellations in beta look too... clean, modern, minimal... it doesn't fit the aesthetic of Sky which is about discovering a ruined kingdom.

[ornate summit]

Yeah I think they will fix it. It looks minimalist to me too. I am only excited for the navigation design like the zooming in and out

[inland pier]

do you not understand my suggestions? Strange, I'm just trying to explain that the constellation UI is just actually inconvenient,_,

[cosmic orchid]

they did say this feature will stay in beta for a long time, so that's gonna be lots of time and changes until its ready

[ornate summit]

OHHHH 😂

[sly arch]

I can see people are questioning about this…
Basically, do people look on the top half of the display of the TV or bottom half of the TV?

[ornate summit]

Yeah everyone's complaining about that since the beginning. I hope tgc figures smth out because the navigation design alone feels good

[inland pier]

as for me the old one looks better ... but okay ...

[gilded basin]

OH, i might be an outlier since i can barely see but i tend to look at the whole thing at once and focus on the focal point from there
like for example if i were playing sky i would probably look at the bottom half since that's where my skykid is but if i were playing splatoon, i'd look at the top half since i need to look out for enemy ink

[agile hazel]

In terms of the light all function, a fairly decent compromise I've seen suggested in a few channels is a long press. Rather than the tedious multiple taps and camera pans, it's much easier to long press a friend node. This would also do well with a UI change that removes the unnecessary zoom in/out of each constellation, would be better to have it all on screen like the previous version with only a few swipes to move back and forth

[upper plank]

oh man that's a bit of a complicated question
i suppose the top half of it? i dunno, people's eyes are drawn to the most saturated/bright object first and not necessarily the position (at least according to me)

[ornate summit]

No the older looks better for me too over all. The new one has to go though some changes to be perfect

[sly arch]

Yeah. Because some the constellation are focus on the top part as well…

[pale junco]

Same they could keep the old one and make a separate section for the other 10 constellations

[upper plank]

well, there's your answer then

[cosmic orchid]

just like the emote UI

[pliant oracle]

I understand and agree, but here you need to choose the words so that the criticism is constructive, it is not enough to appeal to the different tastes. As an argument it is fashionable to use that on this interface, in my smartphone i can see only 4-6 friends, Although before, About 20.

If develooers add zoom function, maybe it will fix a little bit, that uncomfortable interface

[sly arch]

… so I was thinking… why not put the Constellation bar on the top not the bottom… (the one where you choose friends and such) not just because of the you can’t see “You finished the entire constellation. Visit the Light.” message or something but as mentioned, people tend to look up…

Alright thanks, I’ll have to get to work on something before submitting this to TGC in #beta-feedback

[agile hazel]

Do you mean the solar system group (the rings)? Yeah That needs to be zoomed out more so you can see more friends

[pliant oracle]

Yes, circles. Not a Magnifier. A Swipe by two fingers for zoom.

[agile hazel]

The separate buttons we had before worked well, bunching the friend and spirit constellation button into one is annoying

[cosmic orchid]

I want to zoom out in that actually lmao

[pliant oracle]

That's what I mean

[agile hazel]

Don't have beta myself, but from what I've seen in screenshots and videos, it feels like you could have most if not all the solar system displayed at once since the friend nodes are quite small

[inland pier]

I don't understand, but where does this? Everything fits in diagonals of my phone , it's just that what they did with the constellations is complete nonsense, which needs to fix a lot of mistakes.

[cosmic orchid]

you still have to scroll around if you have a lot of ungrouped friends, especially those with 140+ friends

[marsh gulch]

To the people who had problems accessing beta, does it work for you now after the last update? Because mine still has the same problem :(

[chrome ivy]

2 year Skykid adding all Sky moths

[agile hazel]

Doesn't the solar system display up to 60 at a time?

[cosmic orchid]

can't actually clarify that since I have like less than 20 friends in beta lmao

[late sonnet]

if there are 10 friend groups you can make with 8 in em each, that's 80
so yeah, 60 for solar makes sense

[chrome ivy]

I actually like older one instead new one. Due to the orbital friend list that show 60 friends, That lets people who speed lit the friend constellation harder

And the realm constellation seems missing the realm name and Complete %

[agile hazel]

Would it be more beneficial to reduce the number of constellations, but increase the nodes? So 5 constellations with 16 friend per, that would help reduce the amount of scrolling

[cosmic orchid]

those can be added later I guess, I think they're working on the overall functionality and smoothness of the rework and find faults they can address

[latent oar]

I guess somehow they're trying to keep things that can be divided by 8 (full server of players). And yeah that would be a great idea imo

[cosmic orchid]

agree with this
I would certainly prefer the new constellation groups having 20 nodes instead of 10

[agile hazel]

yeah, the favourite constellation in live can fit 23 in it, so a few copies of that would be

[plain helm]

the zooms and dezooms while lighting up each friend's constellation is kinda nauseating tbh

[covert hemlock]

Feels a bit inhumane

[plain helm]

yeah that too, like the game throws you this like "BAM LOOK AT THE POWER OF zooms and dezooms camera" lmao

[marsh gulch]

Well at least the problem is now on known issues, thanks. Let's hope it will get fixed soon

[devout lintel]

When will be beta invites?

[wild dust]

Who knows?

[late sonnet]

when they need more testers

[devout lintel]

And info about 21 October?

[wild dust]

What happened yesterday?

[devout lintel]

Beta updates

[wild dust]

Oh

[tawdry pine]

Beta invites aren't scheduled, they happen as they are needed.

[wild dust]

New constellation UI, u can find videos on YouTube talking about it

[devout lintel]

K. Thank you

[signal folio]

So I just crashed when I tried to use the "greedy" emote
But I wasnt able to replicate the evil laugh I keep seeing. I'm getting the feeling that maybe the LP emotes are bugged with next season's emotes?

[peak mason]

we'll have to wait and see I reckon
god knows it's gonna be some time before next season testing

[vagrant pebble]

The solar system look looks so pretty but i wish they didn't merge the realm constellation and friend constellation in 1 button i like it better when it was 2 separated buttons for quick access

[digital flame]

I agree

[spark lance]

The 2 buttons felt good on paper but after having it for a while there isn't much real difference in convenience for me

[signal folio]

The new constellations are super pretty but I feel like it only makes lighting/finding people harder. There is too much wooshing and moving stuff around. I think having the old set up but with the other friend constellations added on the 4 other star sections would make the most sense. All we really need is the option to "move to jellyfish" or "move to harp" sorry *tempura shrimp

[vagrant pebble]

For me its useful to have 2 buttons because im either quickly tapping for the season constellation Or im quickly tapping for my favourite friends in 1 click (in live)
But with this update its like.. click, spin spin spin, find, click, tp.. or click, spin spin spin, buy, unclick

[rare carbon]

Totally agree. The light gift from friend is also too small and hard to recognize...

[digital flame]

Not the best placing, because the bottom panel which displays those 2 buttons make the screen appear smaller/more compressed, which isnt very user-friendly for mobile users

[agile hazel]

ooooh, have constellation tabs like the emote menu

[spark lance]

The yellow lighting should be brighter or more apparent

@vagrant pebble i get you but moving from constellations feels a lot snappier now, whereas the old one had the fixed molasses pan over speed from screen to screen

I like the idea of fewer friend constellations but more friendship nodes per constellations + some general polish. Still a really nice first step

[digital flame]

Well if they make other way of earning hearts, I don't mind this system of constellation

[merry kettle]

ok i’m not in beta but i watched a video abt the new friend constellations n it looks so ugly. imo it’s more visually pleasing to actually see the stars but they’ve changed it into circles like for what. still waiting for a light all option

[digital flame]

sorry to dissapoint u, but tgc is not planning to implement "light all"
read here #beta-discussion message

[merry kettle]

that is stupid

[abstract nacelle]

its still a first version of what's going to be made, feel free head to the feedback to criticize with improvements and things you'd like to see

[gritty wyvern]

If you really want a light all feature, submit feedback in the appropriate channels and elaborate your point, just saying "That is stupid" convinces no one

[merry kettle]

i’m just saying it’s stupid, not trying to convince anyone : )

i’ll give feedback regardless

[simple scroll]

Can anyone see the crab constellation? etc(my friend can see more). However, I can only see three from my constellation..Drum, crown and jellyfish.

[spark lance]

I've never seen the appeal of having the old visuals. It looks messy

Maybe change the dots to stars ☆ will make people happier im more concerned with how it functions atm

[abstract nacelle]

ive heard that you need to put at least 1 friend in every constellation u can see and then u'll unlock the rest

[simple scroll]

Ohhh thank you!! I'll try. ^^

[digital flame]

Well personally I feel like tgc kinda ruins everything we had concerning currency, like making hearts from boat to 50 likes, or implementing idle wax areas and then throwing the afk timer at us. If they want to encourage social interaction, this is not how it is done. Here to develop friendship, to get items and everything you need to farm both candles and hearts. They really need to reconsider the "grind" system instead of making 1k events, bringing additional props to ts and limiting our previous possibilities of getting candles/hearts. TS system is not efficient either. Prices for new ts and items are only getting higher.

[abstract nacelle]

i hope the dots is really just a placeholder, thats definitely not something everyone would like to see

[spark lance]

#beta-feedback
as for my thoughts I don't have strong feelings on any of these changes. Currency economy has remained largely the same for me

[misty swallow]

totally agreed

[agile hazel]

Yeah, more important to focus on the constellation functioning properly at this stage, it'll be spending a few months in beta so visuals can be improved later

[digital flame]

I already suggested my ideas to improve all these things to wishlist before

[abstract nacelle]

imo, those wax areas are not exactly for us to idle, its a social place to socialize

[spice mason]

I do agree the afk timer is uneeded. not to mention ,, well. god.. i feel for newer players so badly. You would have had to have joined early in sanctuary to even have a good standing as a cosmetic collector. anybody's who joined after that has,, a lot of grinding to do,, .

Anything that makes candle collection a little easier is greatly appreciated,,,,

• mind you, as an enchantment veteran i've still had to do hundreds of runs.

[agile hazel]

That's the intended purpose, but it's gonna become used for idle wax by most people, that's just the reality

[spark lance]

This goes for any new player who starts from scratch. Thankfully as much as players seem to forget, you can do things at your own pace

[abstract nacelle]

yea, at the end of the day, one way or another we will find a way to able to afk but it still stand for it's purpose tho

[spice mason]

You most certainly can, but still.. I do think newer players should be able to have a slightly easier time... ^^''
Cosmetic collection isn't a must, but it's one of my favourite parts of the game.

[digital flame]

At your own pace is mostly about friendships and constellation, but if u want items from events/ts this isnt working

[spark lance]

They do! Every new spirit gives them wax, and they have every seasonal quests they missed to collect extra ♡s

@digital flame this is the case if you insist on collecting everything always. This playstyle is largely your choice

[digital flame]

Wrong of u to assume that this is my playstyle, I only get items I want

[spark lance]

Then you and new players will be fine

[spice mason]

Roughly 40 candles from a first run through isn't enough for a ts, and they've been locking a lot of seasonal quest hearts behind candle paywalls. small ones,, but still...

[spark lance]

The quest ♡s remain indefinitely
And ts are bound to be missed on your first few weeks. It happened to me anyway - there is always another ts

[spice mason]

I'm saying this in the nicest way possible. I don't think I would stick around in sky If i had joined now, rather than sooner.

[unreal lichen]

How is it harder for new players now than it was for new players during Enchantment?

[spark lance]

With the chevron, season quality increase, and universal lvl 1 spirits among other improvements (audio settings) new players have it made lol

[spice mason]

It's harder for players to get a good standing cosmetics wise. Is what I'm saying. And,, if a new player wants to collect cosmetics, they're going to be in for quite the shock.

This is just my opinion, aight. ^^'' maybe this is me just being an old sky geezer and disliking change. idk.

PLEASE please take everything I say with a pinch of salt.

[spark lance]

Being in good standing cosmetic wise isn't a standard every player finds that important to enjoying the game

[unreal lichen]

How is it harder tho.. when I started during Enchantment then the daily candle amount was so little.. it increased by a lot with Sanctuary. Same with hearts. There are so many more hearts available now.

[spark lance]

I envy the new players who didn't have to deal with no audio settings

[spice mason]

Also, please stop pinging me. I'm here, I can see the conversation.

I'm not trying to start discourse. this is really just my opinion. you don't have to agree.

I'm just sharing,, ig my perspective.

[spark lance]

Ah sorry, I ping out of habit, I forget some people don't like that for some reason

[tender oasis]

I started a few weeks before enchantment and the main differences is that your candles had 3 place to go. Friendships, base game spirits and traveling spirits. The max collectable candle number was around 15/day, season ends gave nice conversions. I finished the base game in little less than three months, but we didn’t have costly events (events usually were iap only) and ts were also cheaper back then.
Oh and we didn’t have flight switch near clouds landing in birdnest was a challeng as a beginner

[digital flame]

for me, the main way of getting hearts rn is from constellation, but if they implement new constellation (divided into smaller), i dont think i'll be even lighting anyone. Ofc this feature still needs improvement

[spice mason]

I mainly don't like being pinged during debates, it makes me feel targeted, it's not your fault,, moe. it's,, just past bad experiences.

[unreal lichen]

New players even have the "ask for guide" feature. And yes the emotes. New players get all lvl1 emotes and stances.

[spark lance]

I want to be a moth again

[uneven valve]

does anyone have a picture of what the new constellations look like? Like u can cross out ur friends name if u guys want, I just wanna see what the new constellations look like I don't have beta-

[agile hazel]

#beta-screenshots-videos

[spice mason]

Imma duck out for now. ,,, lack of sleep aint doing me wonders. farewell, gamers....

[sand dawn]

I started during the first season and there were only 2 places candles could go, the base constellations and friends.. those were simpler times
I feel for new players having to chose between 4: base constellation, traveling spirits, event spirit and friends (do they have anything left for friends?!)

[spark lance]

I just thought of an idea 💡
What if there is a specific constellation option to light friends via a icon.

Once you tap it, you just tap name after name to light, instead of seeing the "kid descending" animation each time you want to light someone

[unique totem]

Uhh idk what happened but I can't enter Sky beta [Android user]

[spark lance]

Dang I wish I was a visual designer so I can show what I mean

[agile hazel]

I getchu, that's a good idea

Though I'm still #teamlongpress

[spark lance]

I feel like it would make things seamless and lessen the screen whooshing

*and keep tgc's idea of lighting people individually

[digital flame]

it would be nice, but we also somehow need to know that person is online 🤔 , and besides, how will it be possible to open the menu to join friend/send heart then

[gray forum]

Where is gramma’s feast?!

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it!

[gray forum]

She’s not here 👀😫😩

[abstract nacelle]

eatten by the trees

[spark lance]

You just tap the name as usual to see them. You can even still light them that way if you prefer.

My idea just involves having the option to light quickly via a new icon

[agile hazel]

Oh, iirc it was changed to xx:30 now. And a high chance it'll crash you kek

[unique totem]

Does anybody have the same problem?

[digital flame]

yeah but is that icon supposed to be instead of the friend star? I just don't understand where you suggest it to appear

[spark lance]

The icon would be located at the new bottom icon bar, I wish I could post an image 💀

[abstract nacelle]

i guess moe trying to suggest a special new button that will automatic continously change to the next skykid after you light them and so on

[agile hazel]

I think the idea is that it would be similar to an edit mode, but to light friends instead. You can turn it on for faster lighting and then tap on a friend, and the button would be somewhere in the corner.
Should still have the regular in case you only need to light a handful of friends

[digital flame]

oh, now i get it

[spark lance]

Sort of haha but you get the spirt of the idea at least

[digital flame]

that would be indeed really nice

[agile hazel]

Should still have the regular in case you only need to light a handful of friends

[spark lance]

Right, just a new option for more efficient folk

[digital flame]

i think you can try to well, photoshop/sketch it somehow and post in beta screeshots, and also suggest to feedback if u havent already

[spark lance]

I'll see what I can do

[agile hazel]

^^ the more I think about it, the more I convince myself for it

[abstract nacelle]

the more people suggest that, the more chance it might be implemented

[digital flame]

however, im still not a fan of bottom panel, i'd place those 2 buttons somewhere on the left in a corner or so

[abstract nacelle]

yea, imo that thing gotta dissapear from the screen, looks weird, i put a suggestion about it tho

[agile hazel]

I'd rather not have the bottom panel at all, have separate buttons like we used to. Quicker and easier

[digital flame]

or better leave 2 buttons on the stone as it was before

[snow parcel]

Did any of you have pic of music hair pin stuff 🎵? Plz

[spark lance]

I don't like 2 buttons on the floor since I always have to angle my camera to make sure I don't press one I dont want by mistake

[tropic radish]

I just realised
The new constellation system we have now reminds me of the Mario party 9 constellations

[spark lance]

It reminded a friend and I of ffx

[thorn delta]

Where’s nana gone?

[snow parcel]

U know like the 🌼 hair pin but it s 🎵

[digital flame]

Talking of idle wax areas, I think they should add it to every realm, so players could choose the place they like the most, for example, they could add it to the small inside-cloud area in starlight desert, and somewhere in wasteland, because it feels so empty, especially the forgotten ark

[thorn delta]

We don’t have a Musical 🎵 note hair pin! We have a snowflake ❄️

[digital flame]

or in general they could add some sort of comfy playground with idle wax, where sky kids can interact

[agile hazel]

I think there were plans to add more in the future if these ones work well?

[uneven valve]

guys do you all like the new constellation?

[abstract nacelle]

oo if you mean a headphone to wear, you can find more information about that here
#questions-and-help message

[snow parcel]

@abstract nacelle no i mean note pin 🎵 😅 it s kinda old thing ... But ty anyway ✨💜

[fierce drift]

I think the pin is only from the Chinese server

[uneven valve]

is it gold?

[faint rose]

Seeing that bugged emote makes me sad I didn’t complete LP in beta I wanna evil laugh

[digital flame]

like for example a small stadium-like area where you can play ball

[snow parcel]

It s just harder way/ more waste time to light up friends ✨

[thorn delta]

We have never had a musical 🎵 note hair pin we have just gotten the gold snowflake ❄️ hair pin

[tawdry pine]

That's from the Chinese server only, note: TGC doesn't have control over what happens over there.

[quasi wave]

Just a "search" button was ok 😭

[west hinge]

see, as much as i absolutely adore seeing granny sewing, the fact she's sewing the feast scarf basically confirms that she wont be staying after feast, and that's just-

[spark lance]

It needs more testing and updates but it's way better than what live has

[snow parcel]

@tawdry pine eehh ty)) i know i saw it befoooore i was arguing abt with friend 🥺 ty

[west hinge]

forgotten ark and prophecy cave would benefit (player activity wise) so much from that imo

[tawdry pine]

It's still a work in progress but I'm very thankful I can now organize friends. In live my constellation is way too messy for my liking, even if I try giving close friends emojies to identify them

[fierce drift]

I agree I find it more organized, just the controls are a lil too smooth for my liking

[agile hazel]

Like how your friends would change spots every time your constellation reset, or one page has 8 friends and another has 15

[sick pendant]

The devil works hard but ignis works harder

Y'all about to get the most elite meme of all time

[snow parcel]

Wouldn't it be more helpful if there's a light all friends bouton 🙄

[tawdry pine]

There won't be such thing.

[thorn delta]

It confuses me the circles are waaaay to small! And for peeps who use phones rather than iPad/tablet or tv…it’s bad because so small to see! What about people with visual impairment! 🥺…I’m hoping they’ll change it! It’s not well executed it’s a shambles but am glad it’s a work in progress and have put plenty of feedback in!

[snow parcel]

For me as a phone user ...
It s bit annoying to keep working with those circles and tiny dots back and go just to find and light friend ... So most of people will just ignore lighting their friends specially for irl busy players

[bold oasis]

Really need a feature which we can scroll friends thru list/search by name

[tawdry pine]

Well, sorry to disappoint but here's the reasoning why:

#questions-and-help message credit to tea for compiling the links.

[agile hazel]

Hopefully, don't see a reason why it wouldn't fit into the constellation aside aside technical limitations

[abstract nacelle]

here one more
#beta-discussion message

[tawdry pine]

That link isn't working for me so I went for tea's

[unreal lichen]

So there is no favorites section now? How does the coming online work now?

[abstract nacelle]

i've heard that they dont sadly

#beta-feedback is the only way we can revive them

[snow parcel]

Well i get that 🤏 but still not excuse to make it more harder and time waster with this new system 🙄

[unreal lichen]

I'm there on beta rn like 🧍🏼‍♀️waiting for someone to come online to see how it works.

[abstract nacelle]

the closest thing we can at least have to make it easier is just a hold/double tap button to send light and one tap to collect light

[tawdry pine]

I would recommend sharing your thoughts in #beta-feedback, cause I'm just a player like you

[snow parcel]

Yee that s guud idea 🌼

[snow parcel]

Sorry i was just talking have nice day*

[agile hazel]

Moe had a really good idea
#beta-discussion message

[abstract nacelle]

yes, we need more people suggesting this

[agile hazel]

#lightfriendmode

[sand rune]

4 new passive light areas? 4?

Isn't there just one new at the prairie cave?

[minor falcon]

dreams hot spring, gw crab roast and granny's dinner

[random edge]

Because gw crab roast is the first place I think of to passively relax. The ambiance is fabulous. Main course is the best

[sand rune]

Ooooooooh
Wait granny's dinner?

[pale junco]

Sunny forest tree house

[sand rune]

Ah I see

[minor falcon]

the peak of relaxation!

[pale junco]

Unless a krill bugs and goes rogue

[random edge]

Then you’re the main course!

[pale junco]

Afk skykids: One eye open when i'm sleeping...

[digital flame]

i havent been here for prophecy season, but who was in beta, what were ur opinions on trials? I would like to see more stuff like that, last seasons dont seem to excite me

[pale junco]

Mhmm do you want to ask what beta players thought of trials? 👀

[digital flame]

yes

[minor falcon]

trials testing was one of the most fun beta experiences

[pale junco]

I joined in dreams so
From what i've seen and read prophecy was very unfinished

[random edge]

Being in beta during prophecy was chaotic bug fun. Much beating of your head against a wall in angst and frustration. Trials are fun now. I like that it’s different but not sure I would want the game full of things like that. But some yes.

[digital flame]

they could introduce 1 trial with each season

[tender oasis]

Prophecy had quite qn intense testing. We started with blocks rather than nicely shaped ice and rock plattforms. Lot of difficulty changes, lot of shortcut patches. It was different and more challenging than other season testing i've been

[pale junco]

Tbh i'm happy that tgc is now taking time to fix other issues and improve features we need a break

[random edge]

One day it was super easy to go thru fire 🔥 piece of cake. The next day it could take hours of being burnt crispy

[minor falcon]

it felt like we were testing a new game almost, capeless and parkour dynamics hadn't been explored back then

[tender oasis]

Also it started at the beginning of September last year so searching by date in beta screenshot channels might reveal some fun visual stuff we came across

[mental ridge]

Never before nor after was I so excited for a season, both to keep testing it (although I rage quit the trial of fire several times in several builds haha, the live version is so easy in comparison to what it was at one point) and for it to go live so I could see the reactions of my friends. I went to each several times the day they went live, with different friends. And I’d be like this used to be like this/that at one point haha. Good times

[rain delta]

Anyone else think it would be amazing if they moved the ‘light’ icon so that we don’t have to click on each one and light each skid from their menu, but can just click the constellation dots to send light?

[fluid quail]

it was way back, trials u say.
when i entered water the 1st trial to be open i gasped, i knew water would hurt me yet i jumped and drowned.
air was the most challenging, the rest I can't really remember
i can remember my excitement to try this with friends in live (and i had), laughed at their silly deaths just like i did before them in beta.

[kindred fossil]

Not when I’m around

[rain delta]

I think for the friendship constellation, they should make it so that when you click the constellation dot, it sends light to that person.

When long pressing, it opens up the menu.
Honestly, with so many friends and now having to navigate in and out of friendship groups, it feels so cumbersome to send daily light. I already don’t bother send;in light to people in live

[agile hazel]

Moe's idea is really good
#beta-discussion message

[tired glen]

i'm a little disappointed that in the huge update they made there's still a limit to how many friends can be viewed at one time despite how everyone has been asking for a list to access everyone if we need to instead of only having some fancy decorative constellation

don't get me wrong it's cool and i'm glad they're changing it but that's the one feature a lot of us have been asking for to fix a problem that staff has improved in this but still not fixed

[spark lance]

Anyone knows how many days left for days of feast?

[covert hemlock]

I don't know tbh

[fluid quail]

last beta patch notes stated ur concerns "that's the max due to tech limits"

[tired glen]

yea i saw that but it's still a shame that thats the case

[rain delta]

Agreed, I’d literally be more than happy if they gave us a Windows style file listing that showed me three tabs — online friends, off line friends, favorite friends

I definitely think they need some sort of filter for online and off line friends, it would be soo helpful to see it

[tired glen]

i just wish that on occasion tgc would give us the option to choose utility over looks. when you look at it more broadly, every part of the ui in the game has like, entire second long transitions between appearing/disappearing and it gets old really quick if you're online candle running for 2 hours at a time and you have to stand around waiting for the flame icon to appear on candles and darkness. it would just be nice if this update let us cut to the chase instead of skipping around 5 million constellation pages

[fluid quail]

doesn't it mean they're still working on it, and your concerns is fully heard and still in their list.
either way ur free to continue ur discussion, was making sure u didn't miss that part cuz i see it as a good thing.

[rain delta]

This is my biggest issue with the daily gift light system tbh, I hate how long it takes to actually go to the friends player menu and click on the light icon. Now if you have 100 friends, multiply that by 100.

I understand not wanting to include a ‘light all feature’ but for a daily gift light feature, it doesn’t make sense to make the player go through 4 different screen animations to do the function and then repeat x100 if you have 100 friends. It’s cumbersome and really really frustrating and tiring

If we really want intimate one on one interactions from the player menu to make it meaningful, then they can just keep the gifting of the hearts and the tp to that player menu and leave the flame icon outside the player menu, so we don’t keep having to tab through everyone all the time.

[tired glen]

like, since the UI "improvements" i've found myself playing sky a lot less, they kinda ruined the way instruments play for me so i use sky studio almost exclusively nowadays and they added huge transitions between everything which actually irritates me a lot of the time. there's not much more annoying when you try to go home and you foolishly tapped the button while it was still mid transition so the game decided to close the whole menu instead. every new update has brought nothing new to the table except for more waiting between fancy ~aesthetic~ transitions and it's really starting to get on my nerves how tgc prioritises making things look pretty instead of fixing the issues players have with what they're doing

[tired glen]

i agree on this completely btw, it takes 1-3 seconds to light each friend not to mention the Solid 2 Second Long transitions between constellation pages and it adds up fast (or in this case, painfully slowly). i also agree that a light all feature wouldn't be in tgc's interest because it's meant to function as a gift from one friend to another, but that's not stopping them from giving us a way to light our friends up in one tap instead of three

[spark lance]

As much as I'd be down for windows style friends list, sky and tgc in general prides itself in visual style

I think there can be a best of both worlds

[covert hemlock]

So.... you would like to be efficient in lighting friends, if I compress everything that has been written so far. Everything else, is really personal opinions

[tired glen]

they already have a functional "list" for blocked players, all they would have to do is add something like that but for all viewable friends. the code is already in the game

[tired glen]

yeah? i'm not only expressing my personal feelings here, i've had conversations with plenty of people who agree with me. i'm not alone in this. and besides even if it is personal opinion does that make any of my points on the ui being inefficient not count?? this message is confusing me

[spark lance]

The block list is awful. it resets everytime you unblock, and only holds ~8 people per list. Just thinking about it makes me shrivel up inside

[tired glen]

thats the problem!!!they need to fix their ui!!!!!!!!!!

[rain delta]

Friendship constellation and emote menu have been my pain points in the game. I don’t play music in the game so I don’t really have much to add for the updates to the music menu.. to me it looks fine and I’m actually having an easier time following along with music sheets now. I do love how the spells and stances and emotes were grouped into tabs, so I loved that addition as well

I’m still hoping for an update to how you can gift light — I just want to send everyone light in an easy manner that isn’t cut and past the same routine algorithm for 100 friends

And I just want to be able to find online friends quicker ;-; honestly, the friendship constellation is my biggest gripe in sky. When I find a menu cumbersome, I literally don’t participate/engage in actively using it. So yes, friends usually tp to me and I usually end up playing alone when I play sky cause I can’t find any of the online friends on my constellation. Almost everyone I see visible is always off line -_-

[spark lance]

They've been making huge strides. You need to be patient in the testing process, there are no shortcuts to game designing and improvement

[rain delta]

Also, I’m completely lost on how I can move friends to groups... how do I start a new group? I’ve been playing around with it and the friend I was trying to move wasn’t moving to a constellation ;-;

[spark lance]

There are vids in #beta-screenshots-videos that show you how it works. Press the constellation icon when looking at a friend in the constellation

[rain delta]

Agreed, so it’s important to make the feedback gentle guys, don’t get impatient in them ;-; they’re still working it out and released it out to us to get feedback on them!

[tired glen]

the thing with this is that i've been playing since early 2020 and the ui, in my personal opinion, was actually kinda better back then because it had way less transitions than it does now, and the worst affected part of these updates happen to be the friend constellations. while the new features like the tabs in the emote menu and the updated music sheets are unbelievably useful, it feels like with everything updated to be better something else becomes a little more irritating to use - like longer transitions and janky hitboxes. i don't mean this in any mean way at all, i'm just expressing how i feel about it

of course my opinion could be clouded by the nostalgia or something but candle running was a lot easier before they added the 1s fade in animations to every button

[spark lance]

This reminds me of the chevron change haha. Lots of players giving day 1 gripes when I'm here flipping over actual meaningful improvements

[covert hemlock]

The answer to your question is.... no. And I know now that people seriously want this change, so I will say that it is now a group opinion and not personal.

[rain delta]

I do agree that the updates to the in game chat boxes always overlaps the follow icon or hand hold icon... so I always end up opening the chat menu and it’s a nightmare when you’re trying to hold hands with friends who talk

That said, the way you can now spatially tell who said what and when in the conversation is brilliant 😍

[tired glen]

yeah, and i don't know when it happened but now when i try to tap on myself to honk half the time i end up opening a nearby friend's menu. one time i accidentally gifted a pass to someone while i was in a hurry, luckily they didn't accept it i know that's an error on my part but i'm just saying it has tripped me up

[rain delta]

The chevron change was my favorite, honestly loved the addition of forge rates in this game :’) made it a thousand times more fun to not have to candle runn 2 entire realms for just 5 candles :’)

[unreal lichen]

Okay and I'm still at home waiting for someone from my usual favorites list to come online so I could see if I get notification about it... I want to write feedback but not sure if the coming online notification works or not. Anyone here? Do you know?

[tired glen]

yeah, the chevrons system is incredible for candle runners... until they reach 0 halfway through their run and can't see any wax dots for the next 30 minutes ||/j||

the improvements always go appreciated but people are always going to talk about what they dislike more so that it's known and has a potential to be changed later on

[rain delta]

Hahaha I’m already blind at chevron 1... the sizes used to be much bigger, I wonder why they shrunk them ;-;

[spark lance]

What transitions are we talking about?

[tired glen]

buttons /pages fading in and out

[spark lance]

im still lost, buttons/pages transitions?

[tired glen]

i think it's to punish players for going too long, in all the blog posts when it was implemented they talked about discouraging people from grinding. and it sure does work! i definitely do not want to play the game when i literally can't see!

[rain delta]

For instance, the transition when you click on a player in the friendship constellation and the player menu pops out, the friend pops out from top to bottom — that transition

[spark lance]

Oh, that's been there since I started playing so i don't know anything else

I do agree that transitions needs to be snappier or give the option to skip over it when lighting friends

[tired glen]

yeah, it hasn't always been that way. i guess older players would be able to tell how bad the change is when they can see how fast it used to be

[spark lance]

Also this was an idea I pitched earlier hope they consider it

[rain delta]

Options to ‘skip’ reminds me of the forest cutscene to get to the last layer... I literally have to skip the cutscene, close two menus and then I’m able to to do anything ;-;

[spark lance]

Yup, that's annoying

[covert hemlock]

I thought it was two skips and one menu.

[rain delta]

Yea something like that.. just too many times clicking on the upper right hand corner 😭

[covert hemlock]

I especially sometimes feel impatient when the doors open. I mean I can move. I want camera control

[wary star]

i'd rather have things snappy and fast rather then slow and looks good

mainly so i know where to go and what buttons to press to menu through faster

[bitter slate]

I feel like the old friend constellation looks better than this new 'aesthetic' one tbh... The circles just don't look as nice as the little stars :(
Def agree with what mobi said about the old ui being better, I was never a fan of the changes and was devastated when they brought it to live

[vapid briar]

#beta-feedback

[valid terrace]

this is the first iteration though - will be changed

yeah also feedback

[vapid briar]

Gentle reminder that designers don't read chat channels for feedback, so if you want your voice heard, please stop by the feedback channel. You don't need to type up a novel, and you can even copy/paste what you say here.

[valid terrace]

ok, good to know - I feel guilty copy-pasting in case what I say is already seen or something (despite knowing it’s unlikely), thank you for clarifying I shouldn’t feel that way

[bitter slate]

I feel like we've already had a conversation here about directing people to feedback when expressing their feelings here lol- I already sent my feedback, I just wanted to talk about it here too

But ty for the gentle reminder ktjn, newer beta testers may not be aware of that :)

[vapid briar]

generally speaking, when i come in and offer reminders or give direction/clarification on something, I don't @ people directly on purpose because what I'm saying is meant to be broadly applied to anyone lurking in the channel. Even if a specific message from someone was the catalyst for the comment. Not all knowledge is universal. What might seem obvious and repetitive to you might be brand new to many others.

[fleet falcon]

I really enjoyed that we can use multiple times the same prop in shared space, this is something I've been wanting since shared spaces were released... but it decreased the item limit per shared space soooo much...currently in Live we can place 16 props, I tried to fit the same 16 items in Beta that I have in live version and it is not possible

[west mauve]

[gilded parrot]

the moderators are broken, but I'm here

[peak mason]

that's great skybot

[gilded parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[peak mason]

what do you want from me

[quick harbor]

Who else feels like they'll get headaches from lighting friends in this new constelation update due to the transition from constellation to friend lighting screen

[rain delta]

I gave feedback regarding this

[sterile hinge]

I miss the storm in home

[fluid quail]

the cute groups transition are very good to me, it's almost as same as the old system, there's no zoom-in as much as in the current unsorted solar system chart, that's not just a headache but nausea, it gives a very very very close up look then comes all the way back between transition.
i didn't give feedback on that solar system yet, sagomay said it's expected to be updated in a future patch so I'll wait and see to test more.

[signal folio]

Have any androids also not been able to trigger the "evil laugh" bug? The emote still works fine for me on beta

[wet bloom]

I get a server error

[stiff mesa]

i seem to only find 3 customizable constellations while they said three, is it because i dont have much friends?

[spark lance]

I hope tgc finds a way to remove/skip the "friend descending" transition animation every time you want to light a friend. That's what contributes to zooming in/out so much

[north quarry]

beta update

[proud coral]

Ay babe wake up Sky: Children of the Light beta just updated

[valid geyser]

Hum I just noticed that the radar thing in the friend constellation seems to be prioritizing friends I can collect light from. That’s nice. Does it work this way for other people or was I just lucky today?

[kindred fossil]

I was about to sleep

[north quarry]

sameeeeeeeeeee

cant open my eyes

[gritty stirrup]

I forgot Sky beta existed I missed the invite. Hopefully I can get the next one. I’ve seen the screenshots ppl have been taking and the upcoming season looks absolutely dream like

[north quarry]

but need to check whats new

[proud coral]

upcoming season is actually not in the beta, those are hackers

[abstract nacelle]

update you say?

this is the 6th build, lets see if it will fix the crash

[elfin elk]

Update

[gritty stirrup]

Wait days of feast?

[proud coral]

Oh Feast is an event, yeah that's in the game there's no active season atm

[gritty stirrup]

Oops. I thought feast was a season it lasts pretty long so I’ve heard

[limpid crown]

What~ what's with the last one XD

[north quarry]

🛏️

[slim kayak]

Oh grandma took a knitting class. Good for her

[valid geyser]

Mad love for the beta notes author. That is delightful writing.

[gritty stirrup]

time and space

[limpid crown]

Imma go update

[graceful thunder]

rip red dot :') best thing in beta

[lilac solstice]

Oh darn. My favorite bug, the blinking red light is gone

[dense fiber]

We know that the persistent red dots in the emote menu tabs blinking at you forever and ever and ever and ever no matter what you tried to make it go away was one of players' most favorite bugs, so we are sorry to inform you that this bug has been fixed. Please forgive us if fixing it has caused irreparable disappointment
BWAHAHAHAHA this actually made me laugh

[limpid crown]

Nevermind, I forgot I'm Android

[faint rose]

Noooo not my red dot 🔴

[abstract nacelle]

how dare them fixing the sacred red dot

[dense fiber]

gig is up y'all, may the red dot bug be in the deepest corners of our mind...

...until someone lights up your constellation ofc

[mental ridge]

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined 🔴

[peak mason]

a modern day tragedy

[limpid crown]

🔴Red🔴Dot🔴Supremacy🔴

[split sundial]

Grandma has improved her knitting skills I am so proud of her

[lilac solstice]

It's okay. We can enjoy the terrible wonderful bug in Live still

[peak mason]

she's doing great

[elfin elk]

No more evil laugh emote

[abstract nacelle]

"fixed a bug that allows Sky kids to bypass constellation gates using items like tables"

this is the closest thing of chibi fall getting fixed

[lilac solstice]

Hope it comes back in a future season. I loved it

[gritty stirrup]

me being confused about but happy about the beta update even tho I missed beta invite

[restive stratus]

the red dot is still there tho

[gritty stirrup]

Brb gonna look at the pretty beta screenshots

[slim kayak]

If only we had external emotes here, I have a very nice substitute for our favorite blinking red dot

[abstract nacelle]

woah, Mali Device here is getting 1.10gb update, sounds promising

[humble bolt]

I didn't see it on the update post, so I will ask it here, has the crash bug been fixed in Android?

[abstract nacelle]

im still updating, ill chat here if i can enter or not

[lilac solstice]

Wait a new wave of invites went out today?

[kindred fossil]

If it’s not mentioned, then it’s most likely not 🤔

[wet bloom]

Help I just updated beta and now I'm getting a server error saying I have no authentication info added I can't even switch to a different Google acc it's just stuck

[humble bolt]

We'll need to wait to find out

[spice mason]

I wonder if the bugged evil laugh will stay.. or vanish.

[dry flax]

"Just smile and wave boys" Was wrongly Interpreted

[restive stratus]

it’s fixed

[kindred fossil]

Vanishing to never be seen again

[wet bloom]

Tried reinstalling, switching accs, force closing the app beta stubborn a

[spice mason]

WHELP I'D BETTER GET PICS WITH IT BEFORE IT GOES FOR ME /

[restive stratus]

make the best of it before it disappears into the void

[lilac solstice]

They said they missed the invite wave so that's why I thought so. I don't have the role for it, so I can't see it

[jaunty sable]

。。。

[humble bolt]

Even if you don't have the role I think you can see the #beta-signup-info Channel and read if there are new messages

[kindred fossil]

It’s hidden if you don’t have the role

[opaque wyvern]

Plis tell me

[oak kite]

@vapid briar I have a genuine question because I'm super curious about it. Is there a specific reason why there's never any Daily Quests in the Isle of Dawn? Is it because it's such a small area and there's not really much to do or does it have something to do with the fact that it's where people start the game?

[gritty stirrup]

Ah. My bad I meant that I missed the beta invite that was posted 7/14. I was really looking forward to checking out the upcoming days of feast but was busy with school

[lilac solstice]

Nope. It's only visible to people with the role

[humble bolt]

Oh I didn't knew that

Either way you should have the role for being notified when there are new updates

[lilac solstice]

Ah so it was just a misinterpretation on my part lol. I was just confused haha

[humble bolt]

Ugh just updated and the crash bug still hasn't been fixed

Time to bug report

[copper fractal]

hey! i don't recommend pinging staff or cold pinging people out of the blue (unless if they stated somewhere that it was ok)

[waxen imp]

Hello cool beta testers, how do y'all feel abt the new constellation system?

[vapid briar]

It's considered a tutorial area and we don't want newbies getting trampled by regulars going about their daily business.

[oak kite]

Hey, that makes a lot of sense! It's pretty neat that it's a quiet area for newbies to learn how to get around the world of Sky. 🙂

[cosmic orchid]

UPDOOT

[pastel python]

yay no more red dots. I’ve avoided beta this past week since I cannot deal with it

[fluid quail]

I'm still having the red dot

[plush osprey]

Who the heck actually likes the red dot bug?

[fluid quail]

krills, yk

[carmine thorn]

I enjoyed it.

[solid dune]

“Fixes for masks that seemed to make taller Sky kids’ eyes appear exhausted and depressed.” HELLO?? NO WAY? Someone elaborate 😭😭

[vapid briar]

questions like that are okay to ping me for (so long as the pings are few and far between ) it's not necessarily something a community member would be able to answer unless they've seen it answered in the past.

[copper fractal]

i'm enjoying it so far! i like the new personalized constellation designs idea, though i need to give it a bit until i have more to say about it. beancells are still refreshing

[carmine thorn]

The eye glow was off center causing the bottom to look "droopy" like we had bags under our eyes.

[pastel python]

I also just thought of an idea about deleting friends. Would it be ok to allow us to delete friends who have been offline for, say 30+ days?

[cosmic orchid]

The ability to place down multiples of the same item is expected to remain only in beta for the time being
nooooo

[plush osprey]

Explain. Why does blinking red dot gives you enjoyment? Just wanna know what’s people thoughts

[empty rock]

"Moar snowglobe tweaks"

[solid dune]

Yes please like let us just unfriended people entirely 😭 I have hundreds of moths added that played for 10 minutes and have never returned for over a year now

[restive stratus]

it’s been mentioned that theres music added to grandma hut, but i can’t hear anything

[copper fractal]

i think it was sarcasm adding onto the update notes haha, unless if they enjoyed the constant gloom of the red dot's woe

[dry flax]

Did anyone see updated 🧓 knitting animation? I still see the animation looks more like she's cooking/poking something than knitting

[copper thicket]

who doesn't love a little red dot haunting you every time you open your menu /s

[trim spade]

I'm not gonna update, I wanna enjoy the evil laugh emote a bit longer

[carmine thorn]

It was sarcasm. It didn't bother me, though. Sorry, I use popcorn emote to show a light hearted comment or sarcasm.

[plush osprey]

Ohh i see. So nobody was actually liking it… unless

[empty rock]

FINALLY

🔹Hid interaction icons that appear above other players while main player is in a cutscene

[pastel python]

the pain is totally relatable I understand the reason behind not letting us delete friends on “angry” moments and then regret it. But we should be able to delete people who’s been gone 30+ days, or 60+. Safe to say we make a conscious choice at that point.

[plush osprey]

I was considering the possibilities that people actually liked it 🤣 and i thought the popcorn is like you saying it’s a “hot take”. But it’s all good 🤣👍

[copper thicket]

to me home looks more blue,, or like more clear unless i'm imagining it

i like the knitting animation its so cute oml

[chrome cypress]

Also could make a two pop up for it, like when we revisit spirit memoris, so we sure we don't remove them by tap error

[gilded talon]

I didn’t notice any change to knitting animation or the music in igloo in the latest update. The trails get fixed indeed. Red dot bug still there for me.

[cosmic orchid]

all I can say in the update is that thank you for yhe scarfs grandma

[void olive]

does anyone else feel viciously nauseous after trying to light friends in the new friend constellations and flying thru wind tunnels

[eternal igloo]

I adoreeee the igloo and there’s so much wax to collect!!

[plush osprey]

I don’t see the updates too. Either beta being beta, or we have to wait 1 hour like last time

[restive stratus]

me too, didn’t notice any of the changes mentioned

[hasty river]

yeah it kinda hurt my eyes when selecting/deselecting friends. they just zoom

[viscid marten]

Lmao I love the last one about the red dots

[cosmic orchid]

updates should be out in Android too
try clearing your Playstore's cache

[gilded talon]

Snow globe doesn’t have any sound for me either

[sullen relic]

Just updated to 179049; I'm still seeing the ball spell referred to as a "beach ball", and I'm not seeing any of the changes around grandma at Home (knitting animation still looks the same, no music inside the hut) -- almost feels like this is still the previous build somehow

[austere merlin]

Yeah same

[dry flax]

Same... May be like the constellation update... Things will change after a particular time? 🤔

[spark lance]

Why can they not fix player text bubbles to not overlap icons such as piggy or hug when they can fix the NPC text bubbles overlapping menu icons?

[austere merlin]

Also does anyone else here play with a controller? I’ve noticed that the camera is slower when turning diagonally with controller

[spark lance]

The differences I did noticed was the knitting is maybe slightly different and our eyes aren't sunken within the masks. Yeah, no music in the igloo, still called beach ball, not sure what effects I'm suppose to see at the goal posts either.

[elfin raft]

Not just on a controller

[spark lance]

Also the vertical pan is slower. 3rd build now that it's like that, iirc.

[gilded talon]

Grandma dinner works fine now, no crashes

[sweet briar]

They still didn’t fix the camera movements ://

[vapid briar]

okay it looks like a number of the fixes won't be in til a future build, QA hasn't gotten their time to make sure things are really and truly fixed just yet. Zahlya will update the latest post in #beta-announcements shortly. sorry for any confusion!

[austere merlin]

That’s alright!

[analog citrus]

So does staring a friend from their friend menu do anything now? I did it and they were in the universe constellation but not in any of the groups of 8. I’d be nice to be able to put somebody in a group right from there.

[blissful heart]

My Android still has a black screen and crashes

[cosmic orchid]

noooo our emote

[rain bolt]

It's been patched

[cosmic orchid]

no more Azula laugh

[pseudo quail]

Me too I have a long time with this bug

[trim spade]

I haven’t updated yet mehehehe

[shy ore]

Thanks to TGC Avatar for defeating that bug 😏 (wrong thoughts)

[viscid fjord]

Same...

[rich prawn]

[rain delta]

I’m waiting for the day the sand in vault gets the sand in the prophecy cave treatment
Also... updating the floor textures in vault.. I wonder if the next season has a pretty floor
That’s what happened to the snow in valley haha when the snow texture for prophecy cave was changed

[vapid briar]

@blissful heart@pseudo quail@viscid fjord Did you make sure your app is updated to the latest build (179049)? Did you then submit a new bug report for build 179049 or are you just coming to the chat channel to complain that it's not fixed yet?

It's SUPER IMPORTANT that we get new reports for each build when fixes are not working for critical things like the black screen and crash. A lot of the time we are fixing it blind because we cannot reproduce these issues internally, and we are forced to rely on hearing back from impacted testers to find a solution.

We do our best to obtain the same devices that are in your reports, but so far we've only been able identify a similar crash on ONE of the several different reported devices.

[viscid fjord]

Ok, i'll report

[uneven valve]

uh oh did the stretch emote thingy get updated out?

the one that was laughing and had fire coming out of their hands-

[safe knoll]

The stretch emote is fixed, yes

[uneven valve]

Although tgc should make an evil laugh emote-
And a speechless one would be nice too

[spark lance]

When you are replying to a post and they delete it.

is it me or the update didnt showed up on me

[summer cave]

me: this is great, the witch hat, spooky horns, crazy hair and withered cape are in my reach! i think my collector's anxiety will be toned down for a while
beta: reindeer antlers $14.99
me: ARE YOU-
cheaper i beg
also i love the addition of gramma doing the knitting 🥺

[spark lance]

grandma knitting animation makes me think of her trying to use chopsticks for the first time

[summer cave]

OMG YES

[spark lance]

i would imagine that every single time i saw her knitting lmao

[fierce drift]

Is the grandma supposed to still show up in sunside forest?

[elfin elk]

I think it became 2hrs 30 min for grandma to show up. Its like 15 min after geyser

[grand pollen]

What does the hug button in the circles do?

[sick pendant]

Oh no.... My arsonist emote

[signal folio]

I crashed before granny could feed me

[fathom fjord]

Same 😭😭

[cyan plover]

Hi, sorry if this is known already. But is the sassy stance cape supposed to flare out at one side

[vapid briar]

yes

[glossy sedge]

In setting app, sky beta not only show the player’s ID, but also “last time communicate ID”, I wonder what it means

[sick pendant]

Sassy stance cape?

[rapid bane]

I think they mean how the capes flare while in sassy stance

[sick pendant]

Oh. I see

[quick harbor]

I'm not talking about the constellation transition, in talking about constelation transition into specific player. The transition is too sudden and drastic, and the camera goes from top to bottom quickly.

[gritty wyvern]

Sadly, returning items can't be cheaper. If they were made cheaper than last year, people who got it last year would riot, it's common

[quick harbor]

Maybe that's why Dismiss won't return~ /s

[limpid crown]

Dismiss won't return because their name is "Saluting Protector", he will protect Golden Wasteland at all cost

[visual temple]

I kind of disagree with that philosophy. When you buy a game at launch, you’ll pay full price for it, but you’ll also enjoy it right away compared to those who wait months or years till it drops to 20$.

Those who bought last year enjoyed them for 12 whole months already.

But I also think antlers are overpriced for what they are

[fierce drift]

I see what you're saying, however I think you compare it to purchase of real physical items and I don't know if it works the same way. It's not like the quality of the antlers are going down or the quantity of them are going up that it would be on sale

[tight canyon]

beta chat really be giving arguments omg-

[slim kayak]

this happens every week or so. its pretty civil right now though

[tawdry pine]

Yeah this is pretty tame

[jolly bear]

You can't drop the price because there are prople who spent the Money before you

These People could turn this Peaceful Place into War Zone if the Price suddenly dropped down

Except in case the Pack didn't have Extra Candles and dropped the price, then it might be work

But if it's not, then it will trigger problem

[cosmic orchid]

is the term FOMO or collector's anxiety some sort of medical condition? I tend to see that term a lot here,

[jolly bear]

Also i think 9,99$ are cheap for someone in US...

But it is not Cheap from Players outside of US due to Conversion Rate of In Game Currency, BUT, that is NOT the Company Problem.

It is the Risk of All Online Game Platform and All Player should have Understand this Risk when they want something that bought by Real Life Money.

[agile hazel]

Nah, it's just a term for the phenomenon

[cosmic orchid]

ah
I thought it was something totally serious,
I witnessed some arguments using that term against events with many items such as Days of Mischief and the upcoming Days of feast, so it piqued my interest

[gritty wyvern]

Not really, you just get anxious when you don't get everything because you worry that one day you might want it a lot

[faint comet]

flashbacks on Nintendo Switch Pack and Little Prince Testing

[gritty wyvern]

flashbacks to summer umbrella being $20

[sleek pelican]

Little prince was wild 2days fire chat?

[faint comet]

That's definitely fairly priced for my opinion, considering some props with function are priced the same with same amount of bundled candles, be it Seasonal or Normal Candles

[jolly bear]

Honestly
The one in Day Of Feast, i can only see Antlers and SnowFlake Cape became the ones get Targeted to Buy by Players a lot

Design wise and because the new Cape we have is basically looking a lot like Merge of Santa Cape, Recolored to White and have the Wing Marks like SnowFlake Cape (After quick Research to potential buyer)

[faint comet]

Is it only 2 days? Or more than a week?

[tawdry pine]

I can now say I cherish the ability to react to messages/replies

[elfin elk]

I remember that you cannot react emojis in beta for days?

[signal rain]

Surely the emote will come back soon again, no?

[gritty wyvern]

But those props' functions are unique, while the summer umbrella had the exact same purpose as a F2P item and a previous ultimate gift. Remember, $20 is outrageous pricing for many players who live outside US

[timid bough]

don't start it again... the decisions been made....

[gritty wyvern]

I wasn't going to start it? Just stating my opinion

[faint comet]

But at the end of the day, you're not obliged nor forced to purchase said IAP Item.

[misty bone]

To be honest, I partly agree with you but I stand on the fence for this one. TS is at random or when you have played the game during the season you get the umbrella.. if you want it during a certain period... then you have to pay for it... technically we also get free candles for it.. if you do not have the budget then do not buy it. If you have then you spend on it if not jolly well wait for ts arrival , isn't it? how tgc want to price their goods or stuff, we may have some say but it is not what tgc can adjust.

[gritty wyvern]

That's true, but I can still think that it is overpriced

[gritty wyvern]

I was just saying that its unoriginality wasn't worth $20, and that's just what I think about it, not going to change your view

[carmine thorn]

Can we please move back to beta topics? the summer umbrella hasn't been in beta testing for quite a few months.

[gritty wyvern]

I was only reminded of the summer umbrella discussion, now I started a whole other discussion

[misty bone]

well, it is an umbrella but it looks entirely different from the f2p ts umbrella and the ulti umbrella... i think the effort is still there... price probably overprice but like i said there is only so much we can feedback on the price

[cosmic orchid]

given that it's a prop with a function, it having a 20$ price tag was somewhat understandable since other IAP props with function also are within that price range (swing, seesaw, tea set, lantern,

[spark lance]

Me too..

[agile hazel]

She needs to knit more scarves before going live

[alpine field]

And hats uwu

[misty bone]

team grandma

[vast grail]

~~I think catch up bundles can be a solution to pricing the new DoF ~~ edit: nvm, answered, thank you

[spark lance]

laughs evilly

[tawdry pine]

They're the same price-

[bold igloo]

the prices of both items in 2019 were cheaper because there was no candle

i checked my old receipts from Apple in 2019
and these are the price in Japan
(2019→2021)

🎃 hat
¥1,220→¥1,480(+🕯8)
🦇 cape
¥1,840→¥2,200(+🕯12)

those were the prices in Live
@vast grail i hope it helps you

[signal folio]

If granny has yarn then why don't I see any sky sheep

[cosmic orchid]

I think that's why there are no sheeps left because of the amount of skykids wanting scarfs

[hollow compass]

Granny repurposed all of Dismiss cape's fibres, which is why Saluting Prospector won't return.

[pure tapir]

Anyone knows if the new IAP gift button is suspended? Since yesterday I couldn’t give gifts to friends who hadn’t received anything before.

[hybrid wedge]

@pure tapir if there’s nothing specific mentioned in the updates channel or known issues channel, best to assume something’s not working properly and report it as a bug

[hollow compass]

I can understand their confusion, because sometimes a dev pops into a channel like this one and mentions something in passing that might be quite vital info. But yes, otherwise, definitely the approach to take.

[rapid bane]

Ktjn said earlier that, "Grandma only uses organic, free range ethically sourced cloud-threads. As light and fluffy as they come."

[sullen relic]

the closest we have to sky sheep are afro chibis

[hollow compass]

It suddenly turned more sinister.

[tawdry pine]

Im thinking of those textile shops that use their pets' shedding fur as yarn material (think of a VERY fluffy dog or even a cat)

The Afro chibis donate their massive floof of a hair for granny

[elfin elk]

Does yeti’s fur can be used as yarn material

[pure tapir]

I already asked granny to knitting a fluffy scarf for a friend using my marshmallow hair 😆💭

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618891214527266846/900933177386889216/image0.jpg

[pale junco]

Grandma is using the strings little prince used to tie all those birds and fly around

[elfin elk]

I can say that Dismiss fur is also close to sky sheep

[ashen tundra]

Any opinions on the Aurora in the sky so far? A friend of mine got a bit salty and disappointed saying, "it's not an aurora, it just looks like green smoke."

[frosty ravine]

I agree

[polar osprey]

Yeah kinda but I’m sure it’ll catch up with developments

[merry ermine]

How to apply for test suit qualification?😫

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[haughty zealot]

Hi 👋 I accidentally watched a beta video on the new friend constellation and am wondering, when friends are online, their circle lights up instead, but there is a tiny outer circle that let's you know if you've lit their candle or not...I'm wondering if its hard to tell of you've lit an online friend up or not?

[pale junco]

Yes it might be hard for some people it's very subtle. But this is the very first iteration of the constellation and many changes may happen before this goes live. Many people have suggested that the previous diamond/star icon was better.

[haughty zealot]

Thank you! I'm glad people have noticed :) and I agree!

[late sonnet]

if you have thoughts about the UI, submit to #beta-feedback! you don't need to be a tester to put your two cents in

[haughty zealot]

Hehe cool beans, thank you 😊

[cursive tinsel]

True it's not really the waves rippling across the sky . More like a static photo view

[queen bluff]

It's not a bad first pass to be honest. We see the Aurora here a lot and it appears in a lot of different presentations.

[sage linden]

Did any of the devs address the fire fist emote bug? 👀👀👀👀

[naive solar]

#beta-announcements

[weak lotus]

[sick pendant]

Just a FYI

Devs cannot and will not confirm or deny spoilers (in question)

Imma wait patently to meet that ABSOLUTE LEGEND who has that emote.... Can't wait to find out what is their story and what cosmetics they offer (if they are a seasonal spirit)

[heavy dune]

[ashen tundra]

Can't wait to meet whoever has that emote too. If it would be an emote in the future

[agile hazel]

First we got waterbending cos play, now we have firebending

[timid bough]

plot twist its just lvl 5 n 6 laugh

[sick pendant]

Well that gives the laughing spirit a WHOLE NEW PERSONALITY I never knew they had

I don't mind it being a base game emote. It is ESSENTIAL for daily communication

[cosmic orchid]

well, level 1-4 emote is rather sad and tragic and level 5-6 was just a tantrum and totally changes the mood for the emote
I won't be surprised if the bugged emote is gonna be for level 5-6 lmao

[sick pendant]

level 1-2: haha
level 3-4: lmao
level 5-6: BOW BEFORE MY POWER FOR I HAVE DEFEATED YOU IN YOUR OWN GAME PEASANT MUAHAHAHA HA

....... Maybe I am the villain

[opaque swan]

welcome back to how long can the devs make a spirit tree??

[dusky mulch]

Howdy
What do you think abaut new home in beta? Mainly abaut Spirits and friends??

[cosmic orchid]

why, did something happen in homespace?
currently we're testing the Days of Feast event in home together with the snow and stuff such as the Igloo and grandma

or were you refering to the Friends constellation rework?

[dusky mulch]

No i mean this 😅 the new sistem https://youtu.be/OzLP_6U4Ji4

[naive solar]

I read that as French constellation rework

[cosmic orchid]

so the friends constellation rework,
yeah its still on it's early stages so for me it absolutely has lots of potential, needa to be optimized more tho

you can help it improve by submitting feedbacks about it in #beta-feedback

[sick pendant]

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!!!!

[naive solar]

a bread has better eyesight than I do

[spark lance]

[peak belfry]

BUG BUG BUG I can’t join any of my friends 😭😭😭😭😭😭😢

[gilded talon]

On beta? I was able to join my friends fine earlier. Did you check your internet connection?

[upbeat basalt]

Why does my beta still flash back?

[gilded talon]

Please bug report in #beta-bugs-android dear (if you haven’t yet), devs cant reproduce it and then fix it if you don’t provide detailed device information. It’s important to do it each new build if the bug still persists

[upbeat basalt]

What shall I do?

[gilded parrot]

To report a Sky bug to TGC, follow the instructions at the bottom of the read-only #report-a-live-bug
You can also read more detailed instructions in the link below!
#questions-and-help message

[summer cave]

makes sense but its unfortunate 😔

[sweet parrot]

How do i stop testing beta?