#beta-discussion
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BAKED GARBANZO BEANS
Your idea’s real!! Congratulations!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
140 people to light up now! And personalized friend groups?? I'm very excited for this idea!
LET'S GO LES
S LET'S GO
but why? i struggle to understand why that function would not be implemented?
of course it takes ages for google to let me update
Now to make 140 friends
Now watch the constellations be based on real life zodiac constellations 
the snow balls shine brighter than the wing light before placing
In beta 😫
Wot I got pinged and it's gone 
see you next century fellow testers
hugging the questgivers was only the beginning…this is so satisfying
Sounds like a pain. 
From what I've heard, it's about the lighting someone up being a thoughtful action. I'm neither a dev nor affiliated with them, so you may feel free to disregard my words.
theres gonna be so much mixup with the offline and lit friend star
they did say its a work in progress. i will live in #beta-feedback once the new system launches
Which is why I used all the formatting to stress that this exact design is not permanent 
don’t worry i’m also experiencing a similar issue. we can suffer a century together 😔
can't wait to get testing! we can have a real impact here
such a quality of life thing
I’m only a former Beta tester here, now lurker that sometimes leaves feedback
this is very exciting
that seems very idealistic lol. i care to argue that most, if not all, light peoples candles to simply get it overwith, as it doesn't really cost anything.
Wooooow that sounds so exciting!’
"this is very exciting"
indeed, as I was literally shaking from excitement earlier
is it just me but i dont see the edit button to make group?
The changes are not applied yet. Wait for an hour or so.
I was flailing my hands and everything at the questgiver hugs thing
welcome to the ‘completely lost it over a recent Beta update’ gang
im still screaming of happiness...you know what???
season of assembly is the best season
screenshot this while you can
I thought it was only me who didn't got the update 
im still screaming of happiness...you know what???
season of assembly is the best season
screenshot this while you can
[Jump to message](#beta-discussion message)
Quoted for all time 😌
Did you update yet? I don't believe the update released completely yet. We have to wait hopefully only an hour for it
are there any plans on working on portrait mode for android?
It's been stated a couple times in the past:
here: #general-sky-discussion message
and here: #beta-discussion message
but I'll re-post it one more time:
Unless the design goals change, it's intentional that we do not create the option to "send/collect all" for lighting your friends' stars, because it would cheapen the meaning behind the experience. It's meant to be an involved process, so that when you light your friend's star, they know you took the time to do that specifically for them. To know that you care about your friendship enough to take the time out of your day to think about them.
OMH H YM GODM I ACCIDENTALLY VIEWED THE SCREENSHOTS CHANNEL
thank you for the response. i understand
With the limits to how many friends' stars we can see, is there any chance of a refresh button being added so we can refresh which stars we see?
The balls are ||snowballs|| omg

i did update, just asking incase mine was bugged
The new constellation will be enabled at some point after 3pm Pacific time. It's not currently enabled so that we can be extra certain that the fix to make friends appear in constellations as normal is working.
are the constellations based on zodiac signs ?
Does it affect the spells we already have? Or maybe it could be another thing altogether?
Is it inconvenient? yes
is it idealistic? yes
but it's an important value we hold and do not wish to compromise for the sake of convenience
These updates are chef’s kisses
I'm excited to test
I like lighting everyone one by one and remembering things about them, complimenting their outfit - “oh yeah, I met that person at [location]” “I haven’t seen them for ages” “maybe I’ll warp to them” “that’s a great fit”
YOOO this update looks very interesting
Gonna be completely honest though, I understand the reasoning behind it. I'm really happy you all did try to make the friend system easier though. As someone who has like hundreds of friends, I can't ever light all of them, so more space is nice. Plus finding certain friends is a pain, and organizing certain people to be at the top will make it easier to find them 
I think it affects existing spells? The spells in the shop are still “beach” balls
no I didNOT say "bo"
Ah, sounds exciting, but I'm not excited.
Very intrigued. Much exciting.
Omg Devs thanks for fixing the crashing 😭😭😭💕
fair enough! everyone has different taste







it works similar to the message boats that periodically change appearance during some events. the text that says "beach ball" is a bug and needs to be updated and retranslated.
Can't wait to test days of feast yay!
beach ball of a snow beach
Not sure. Maybe they're used as a base to make a new themed spell. A selection would be nice, but yeah, sure.
excellent quote
sorry for laughing it’s just gold
Same, I like it even more if I see a newer player/s, I befriended, progress thru the game like based on what cosmetics they have on, etc. Makes me feel proud of their "achievement" in the game.
Ayo can someone show me what the new constalation updates look like? I don't have beta so like
They're not enabled yet
Even if you are not in Beta but just curious about updates, make sure to read #beta-announcements 
In about an hour, if all goes well
I think the feature will be enabled in an hour
in like 1 hour i think
in an hour this time tomorrow
do you guys like the green aurora? or are you like me, wanting it to have blue and purple colour added to it? i thought it would look even cooler maybe
Yeah, the contrast of having a summer-themed item on snow is promising. But transforming all the ball spells into snowballs is a bit limiting.
The sky above the friend constellation. Pretty!
Ofc
THE,
I'd definitely like some other colors in there, we call these green ones the "boring" kind here 
Also tcg yall fr outdid yourselves this time i swear, good job
“Aurora borealis?! At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the kingdom, localised entirely within Home?”
I agree!
“..can i see it?”
i feel like i heard this somewhere… is this a reference?
the famous steamed hams scene of the simpsons
OHHHHHH
I confess that that quote was the very first thing I thought of hearing about it
i am playing one of my favorite soundtracks, i associate it with good luck
Alright I poof now, happy to talk to y’all o/
so if the update shows up, it'll show up now or never
In regards to past quest giver hugs I think it should be bear 🐻 hug because they are huge
maybe I’ll go make this as a video right now
should I
about the aurora
it more like a feather cloud rn than an aurora
will a squiggly and a vertical aurora look better?
IT SHOWED UP
no android update for me yet
Uhh oh grandma in forest is missing for me but the balls still appear i crashed two times there? Is there anyone who can see her?
jesus this update is massive
Same, but I'm still refreshing
I can see all my friends again!
It says there's an update but when I click on the sky beta on Google play it doesn't appear. Maybe because it just dropped
I have never felt this impatient
Anyone downloaded the update already?
Skating around the Home ice rink is one of the most fun ways to collect wax
Could you download it?
So happy with the news!!! :AE_Happy: :AE_Happy: :AE_Happy:
Lol, the update is good, but I'm more concerned about the certain unfinished business since August, hehe. So this update doesn't restore the faith for me.
Personally my favorite is going over to Grandma and practicing music and feeling like that Light is her patting me on the head for trying to sound nice
But emote spam while skating has become that much more worthwhile, haha
I still cannot log in 
Clear cache from Google Play
nah I understand that
Delete play store cache, restart device, try again. If it fails wait until Google reviews and lists the update
It feels like they owe some a proper investigation.
I really enjoyed the ice rink at Home last year and could spend a lot of time there. Adding wax that falls and accumulates in such a neat and unique way just makes it that much better!
question; when we gift, do we give our item or do we buy it again
Aurora is sooooo pretty!!!
There's a spam emoting while skating update?? Omg this update is even better lol
Anyone is still experiencing the crashes after the update? I am

Looks like we buy it for a friend. And it only applies to the items currently in the shop.
aren't you a mod? why is your name yellow
It's blue to me!
My name looks the same color as always to me 
@cobalt jacinth @humble bolt Thank youuuu its downloading
Hope it works
Maybe your Discord's being weird
Discord starting Halloween tricks too early
yeah
i'm currently in a car so my internet's bad
snorp! 
Aww gotta go to sneep (almost midnight here) I can’t wait to see the new constellation screen when i wake up tomorrow
Night everyone
That's obviously green bruh
so i can't give things like the earth day cape?
Nah it's clearly pink

Not at the moment. And I'm not exactly sure if you can gift items from past years, such as the antlers or the snowflake cape.
oh man
is the gifting just to … show us how it works? My friend and I tried gifting the starter pack and once accepted the gift we just kinda … look at each other doing nothing 😂
Still not working 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
That was confirmed to be a bug: #beta-discussion message
My heart is breaking, the new update didn't fix the issue. I still can't open Sky
Same

istg the wind sound inside the cave with grandma sometimes …. feel like a krill is coming at me
Sad
Eyy update is finally here! Time to go test everything 
I'm still waiting for the download to be finished
Crying in a corner in the dark while watching the other skykids enjoying Snow and playing with the grandma 😔
I'm still having that constent red dot in emote/stance menu
🔴
@humble bolt @spark lance Argh
Please be sure to submit a bug report for this!
ITS 76% UES
@frosty trout Alright, I will.
I really reaaaally hope it gets fixed 🥺🥺🥺
What a wonderful update to wake up to 
I kicked my snowball out of bounds 
loae
I don't think I'm going to sign my Sky kid up for Sky soccer/football anytime soon
I wonder if they could be made to stay in bounds
the update is installed
I will test and report, until it is done
hello! there's an event happening in belonging tree in forest right now and i want to ask if anyone is experiencing crashes.
I can head that way
Iim going too
it supposedly ends in 5 minutes, but it should happen every 2 hours
right now?
I'll head there!
I did crash half hour ago there
oop grandma isn't there anymore, i'll have to check later.
And wax isn’t registering at least it didnt for me and a friend either
where is the belonging tree in forest? 👀
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
I know birdbot, but I wasn’t here during belonging 🥲
The tree with the table in it I think. The place that leads to the underground caverns
I've got a save point there now, so I can check when Grandma comes around again
OH MY GOD THE UPDATE NOTES FOR THE CONSTILLATION IT'S HAPPENING Y'ALL
this area @pastel python
YESSIRRRR
I'll check it out with both devices when gramma comes back!
but it’ll take like 20 minutes or so, I read on the patch notes
Aurora Borealis!
I see no event right now at forest grandma
HOLD DOWN THE FORT IT'S HAPPENING HDJSJSKKDBDN I'M EXITED TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEE MY FRIENDS
IT LOOKS SO COZY
grandma will come back every 2 hours in half an hour. please report the crashes and issues if you can! thank you so much ^^
i was crashing earlier and i was like hol up
ikr!
Oh wait the changes happen in 15 mins 
so grannys hour changed?
That’s correct
I love the Aurora borealis
Ah, so grandma schedule changed and it won't come at _:05 every 2 hours, rather at _:40?
I already have 
it changed to :30 :0c
oo! that makes alternating geyser and dinner much more smooth
I'm confused. Wait, I think I understand now
SO IT WILL NOT BE THE SAME TIME AS GAYSER???
Don't swim after eating dinner kids 
NO
YEEEEEEEES
they're swimming BEFORE eating dinner
You can do some wax burning exercises after a good dinner, nice
android google play users, how many mb you need to download for the update?
I'm more interested in the sky at home space then anything I have ever seen in this game and i'm just 
Geyser at :05 every 2 hours until :15 and you have 15 mins to arrive to grandma after swimming! 
I think you need atleast 2gb free storage
Notice how there's a swimmable pond next to dining room
coincidence?
I THINK NOT
What if we eat and swim at the same time?
like 25mb or so
that´s sound good 🙂
Grandma doesn't serve half raw food
did I download 1.03 gb for nothing
Ah, yes. Gotta get that soggy food
what happened? did you get black screen bug?
idk, she could be making a fresh seafood platter
you probably uninstalled beta n reinstall
My beta needs to hurry up and update 
i still getting crash tho after the update even reinstalling
Nothing is "for nothing" in beta. Btw the update is only 20-25 megabytes
I was not affected by crashes or black screen, the update for me was 1.03 gb
that's a nice ~660 wax per each geyser+dinner combo
but, android?
When will the update become available?
The update is ready for you to install, but the massive changes will appear in 10 minutes
I'm pretty sure beta everytime it has a version update it actually uses more storage than it says the update file size is, since I had to clear storage
my inner sloth is happy
Yes unpacked installation is always bigger then downloaded 
after all, the update is still a potential fix for the crash, praying its not going to happen to live 
So um.. Google play has the icon for the Christmas event on live 
I have just checked forest with my older 4 year old android device. Graphics look stunning and smooth! 🙏❤️
Here we go I'm updating now
🎉
Game crashes while using greedy emote
A very inconvenient change is that in Dreams Village all candles were removed from the hot springs. That candle boost at hot springs was one of the main reasons to go to dreams village.
Hot springs candles gave enough quick light boost to be able to reach the clouds above and fly with the help of them to Dreams village's top towards Hermit Valley. Now the missing boost (and quick candle amount) makes Hermit Valley more deserted because routined candle runners used hot springs wax as fuel to go up to clouds and go to the cake up in Hermit Valley instead of those long, slow boats, not to speak of the quick noticeable wax amount.
too greedy, must nerf
omg yes for me too
Don't be greedy, or sky will fall
Same, crashed for me too
Umm sorry but I still can't enter and I keep crashing what's happening??🥲
everyone do the greedy crash! 🎶
yea, apparently its happening too to some people too after the update
including me
Sky: Have northern Lights
Players: ok, but how about a moon?
Sky: We don't do that here
What should we do
Why is looking up and down so slOW hello 😭??
Feeling like I’m using a controller
back to the #beta-bugs-android bunker
hold on i cant log back in after that crash......what have i done
nvm we good
Where are the constellation changes? :<
How do you know there's a moon for Sky's world? 
I was also just wondering that 
NO WAY
I even restarted the game and it was not there
There's a moon at Office, Shipwreck, and Ark
They'll be enabled at some point after 3pm Pacific, as noted in the beta update post
We can see the moon just never at home space
What time is it now in this timezone?
it's 5 mins past that tho 👀
that must mean 1 minute after 3pm! 
My graphics look so bad on lowest setting now.. They never used to look like that and I noticed it instantly 
i would be concerned if that big ol crescent in the cackling crab sky wasnt a moon
It will show you the time in your time zone in the recent beta updates post
If the moon were visible in home, there would likely be tides, which given the current semi-flooded state indicates that home could sink beneath the waves
Starlight Desert also has a moon
I mean, you could technically say that the office and whatever is in there isnt technically the sky world, but the ark and shipwreck are good cases
App crash, still can't play 
So it's literally 6 minutes past that, is it being implemented yet?
"will be enabled today no earlier than" does not mean "will be enabled exactly at this time" y'all. Be patient 
Same
Do you think it was worth me giving feedback on graphic quality? 
I actually saw a recemondation in wish list that looked JUST like the update describes! I’m so glad they saw it 💕
I think we'll receive another update soon 
I love how the Wasteland tube is the chimney of grandma's snow hut at home. 
This ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬆️
Reading is important bois and gurls
Considering we just had an update for some brick textures that have been in the game for years, yes! 
You’re right 😬
Is it because of how the server behaves with new things being implemented, or because of the schedule of the tgc staff?
@gentle tusk I explained it earlier here: <#beta-discussion message>
Ty 💞
I can only speak for myself, but that fix worked for me! I can see all my friends in my constellation again
I really am saddened that I have to force my game to run at 30fps (boosted) to look like the quality that I play on when playing live (battery saving) 
Oooh, it showed all friends I currently have which I counted should be more or less 90 folks 
On my both (1 and 4 year old) devices the graphics are stunning now! 
The only thing I miss is the 60 fps setting on my newer phone, which is available in live tho.
I made the steamed hams thing, reluctantly
Huh, I do notice that on my phone the graphics are indeed much better, pin sharp actually, but vertical swiping and moving the camera is somewhat slower.
pushes the wheel chair closer
HOW BOUT NO?
That was there since last build too. Y-axis movement of the camera is slower and smooth whereas X-axis is the same.
Silly me for not noticing it then 😂
i didn’t notice until a while ago also 😂
Hope they decide to add the long press idea to light friends, would help a lot
ktjn has stated that that's unlikely to be added as they don't want someone to get accidentally unfriended and be unable to be found again
早上好啊
How about I twist that statement saying ktjn didn't want anyone to be unfriended
Please message in English. It is a server rule.
Not in response to your message.
If you type this keyword
< from:Ktjn#8721 in:#beta-discussion unfriend >
It should pull up that statement
What Ktjn meant is
Sometimes in a heated moment you might get angry and under the affection of that emotion you unfriend them but after you've calmed down you might want to reconnect with them and if you don't know their discord or another way of connecting with them that will mean they are gone forever and Ktjn wouldn't want that to happen. For that reason blocking exists. Blocking gives you the option to reverse your action
Everyone's talking about the great graphics while I'm here crying about my graphics suddenly looking worse 
I am sorry to make fun of this
Yeah but if we set a time period,let’s your friend can be deleted only after 24 hrs etc.You have enough time to "undo" or change your mind.
I don't see how the block button doesnt suffice in that you can already remove them as a friend but are able to undo that choice if ever desired
I personally have more than 200 people in my block list,friends who have stopped playing and haven’t been online for a year or I have blocked for some reason.I would really like to clear them from my constellation.Just adding to them my block list is no solution.
excited about constellation updates, thumbs through update notes. Sees no improvement on the camera pan hell... Updates, checks game, still sees migraine inducing camera pan when lighting friends... 
I don't think the constellation updates have been enabled yet, @carmine thorn
^^
It wasn't documented, let's hope it's changed.
The other thing you'd have to think about is the amount of candles lost if you ever decided to unfriend someone, even if it's a moth
They could find you again and pretend to be someone else, and the candles you've spent before would be deemed useless-
Blocking can guarantee that you won't spend any candles on that player afterwards-
AFAIK there's no limit on how many people you can block and since it essentially is the same thing i don't consider unfriend option an essential
But there are times people stop playing the game too.Even tho I’ve spent so much of candles on them.
I feel like the compromise is a unfriend request option when reporting a friend, that only goes through if deem 'valid' for toxic behaviour, rule breaking etc
but having then blocked would still be preferred then chancing running into them again in that case
Blocking also prevents awkward encounters. But unless that friend has the same friends as you, the chance of running into them are almost zero. Very small even
They eventually will come back
Even for a short period
Even after 3 years.
Sky is the type of game you return to.
Imagine coming back to sky in 2 years and there's so many new expansions from seasons and events to explore. You could feel like a moff once again
hello! anyone has trouble receiving hearts through the constellation? is that the game notified me that two friends sent me hearts but when I entered the game and I checked my constellation those friends don't appear to me ... 😑🙃🤔
None of my friends have returned even once.Some have already uninstalled the game long time back.The point is we should have the right to add/delete whoever we want.
I keep my older friends who have been inactive in my constellation for months. It's pleasant since I've had heartfelt moments with them, and I wouldn't really want to accidentally delete those memories-
If they truly won't come back, I suggest just blocking for uncluttering purposes ;-;
You can block them and the effect will be almost the same
I mean, blocking does exactly the same thing, and you can just ignore those in block list for all eternity if you want to.
My sky bestie left sky when dreams ended. We started together and found each other when we were moths. We shared MANY great memories with each other.
They deleted sky but I still keep their star
regardless the devs have very valid reasons for not implementing an option that could accidentally make you lose a friend forever.
I've accidentally blocked friends several times lol at least it's reversible
you need to talk to your mutual friends about those "friends" what they did, if they won't understand you, better to block them too. You never feel good if you won't get rid all tails
Here’s the thing.I have a constellation of 750+ people.I have to spend more than 2 hours on sending lights to everyone every day.I have to block/unblock so many people coz you cannot find their star unless you block some.Having a block list consisting of already 200 people and then temporarily adding more people to the block list and unblocking all of them is a pain.
Same for me. My first friend star is there even though they don’t get online
If TGC adds a notice, like "your friend is with a blocked person right now. Do you wish to warp to them ?", That could be one step towards solving the issue ?
While on the other end for the blocked person, the "your friend is in a place you Can't join right now" notice should pop up of some sort. Or is that too out there ? 
I think i will add them in a separate constellation and name it
"in loving memory of..."
I haven't actually blocked anyone yet. It's been more than one and a half years now since I started playing
camera pan when lighting friends
To my knowledge, this first update is focused on overhauling how and how many friends are displayed in the constellations themselves. There are many different elements that the label "friend constellations" lumps together, so if you don't see a change you were hoping for, that doesn't automatically mean it is forever out of the realm of possibility, or not somewhere in the list of changes we hope to make.
At any rate (and y'all know what I'm going to say here), #beta-feedback is a valuable channel to use during this process 
Are you hoping to add a constellation refresh button? Please don't feel like you need to respond; I'm just excited for the changes, and that's probably my biggest wish as of now
I have blocked a moth. I helped them out and after a month or so they started demanding hearts from me. It was fine untill they called me greedy for not gifting them an AP
Ahhh okie. I have definitely heard stories about blocking but have not encountered it
I've blocked one player because they were harrassing my friends. Not me, but I've gotten word about it and hopped on the blocking train for my friends sake 
Been scrolling through #beta-announcements and noticed we can see 140 friends now in the constellation, but then does that mean it's gonna take longer to light up everyone in the constellation?
idk, I'm not the one programming these changes into the game
My teammates and I have passed along, though, that people have been wanting better ways to find people in their friends list, so it's a problem the designers are aware of and working to solve!
If it is... I found it (in my opinion) painful and time consuming because of the amount of friends I need to light up 
I won't sleep untill I find out what these new constellations look like 
Alright, thank you! 
Skybot may end up having a word with you about that
cracks fingers
Not with that attitude 
Proceeds to light 1 Skykid/second
Skybot, pls don't send the sneep
Not necessarily. It probably depends on what you do now
Look fam, it's not that deep?
Currently napping in grandmas chimney waiting for the constellation update but also the sound of the wind and the fire is too relaxing
I will stay awake for this 
when we gonna get a sneep snorp update?
While waiting for the constellation update :D, imma do my daily morning routine which is to lay down my bed an do nothing
Anyone know if there's a pattern to the voice call grandma honks in during dinner sessions? I usually hear her cycling through crab and baby manta call
She's telling you to eat your dinner so you can grow up to be a big skid
Morse code through honks? 🤔
Grandma just appeared and left, and appeared again
Yeah, that happened for me, too
And it crashed
She forgot the timing had changed so probably went like oh well.. Let me come back later
It did ouch
pokes head yeah i figured that would happen D:
my device crashed too
Gonna try to head back and see what happens
Wait, is she not supposed to come right now ? Or-
it moved to :30 for now! supposed to anyways
She's not here after coming back on
maybe yall ate too much last time so now your skykids have stomach aches
I was with granny but I crashed after awhile as well
She came but then my game just crashed out
It crashed after she sneezed 🙂
^yeah, i'd imagine she'd have to restart her cooking entirely after sneezing into it
That is a very big sneeze 
ohno
Have you guys on video crashing, then after half minute I couldn’t hide from this fate either

i remember that, but she appeared while i left skykid there... she was pretty good btw 🙂
Forest grandma is here as per old schedule and my Pixel 2 on Android 11 crashed after collecting light from 4 wax balls.
oooof my server just got some orbs, yeah that's def a big issue.
grandma is nowhere to be seen for me 
Back in the game now - no grandma but she left some orbs 
same here, i am still getting them
Anyone actually getting the wax or its just the animation?
Grandma is playing mischief, she chose trick instead of treats 
now finished ;__;
Not getting any wax, it's just the animation
A bit late to the party 
if you can please report what you're experiencing! super helpful to describe what happened before it crashed, your platform and type of device 
sounds like we will need other update soon
that sentence is grammatically incorrect but i choose to not see, or is it? idk english is evil u_u
It is grammatically correct dw I gotchu
I’m here at Forest grandma and she’s nowhere to be seen. A player that was here before me said they crashed when they saw her 
also, Ikô, I uh
I made the steamed hams thing and posted it, I confess
I reported my granny crash but I forgot to add that other players crashed at different times than me
New constellation is here indeed
Yess idk, the constellation isnt too efficient to find a friend🥺🥺
This only seems like phase 1 of the constellation update, we might get a search bar soon
I like how this new display of constellation makes easy change between each, and doesn't force you change to another just because you move a little 
Grandma is here again :)
Damn, the invisible flight trails do be kinda enhancing the flight feeling
oop crashed again
I was kicked again
Offff grandma literally laughed at me before I crashed
Did I just leave the game right before everything crashed lol
😦
Precious quality of life updates, so good
Ack, I didn't survive "Thanos Snap" Grandma sneeze 
No crash YET on my newer Pixel 5, but grandma flied away like spirits poof from their gravestones for a few seconds and then appeared again.
Edit: I crashed eventually
And again 2 time’s the charm it seems
Everytime Gma sneezes I crash 
truee
I crash everytime she giggles
seems like grandma has decided to haunt the forest now
Got back to Forest, went invisible for a second and then crash again when I got back into the dining tree
has anyone else experienced having your character turn invisible?
Ok my newer phone crashed too. I'll send a video to bugreport now.
I experienced everyone else turning invisible from the point of view from the fireplace but that has already been a bug in previous builds
not me, just merged 4min before she arrives (2x) and crashes
How can you open your beta I'm jealous:(
I missed the ts I guess I'll miss my favourite event too
I just hope the crashing won't come to live
Not to my knowledge but crashes after the sneeze and around burning the "food"
The mew friend constellation is smooth with controller
Getting orbs and wax but no grandma 😭
i shall now poof and reduce to atoms, thanks for helping everyone! the bug reports and footage helps so much 
In the forest grandma, both my iPhone and iPad crashed 4 times at the same time, and when I resumed at the return shrine from Home, I was invisible 2 out of the 4 times.
I'll file a bug report later.
I’ve been so inactive that I never seen u before, kewell that we have another dev 
I think the solar system would benefit from a zoom in/out function
Make sure to leave constellation feedback in #beta-feedback
its still an active work in progress, so any insights you guys have would be incredibly helpful!
Do we have to write long paragraphs or just a few sentences would work
few sentences is totally fine!
The update said there should be 10 little constellations; should you be able to see all 10?
You can be short n sweet-dont worry about pitching solutions or anything as well. You can be honest and say "hey i dont like this because X reason" "i like X because X" and leave it at that too!
leaving any thoughts you guys have in beta feedback is nice cause it condenses all your thoughts into one area so it makes it easier to funnel the information back to the devs working on it-since not everyone is in discord. and less multi-channel scrolling for our comms team members 😂
why i only got a black screen
short but thoughtful feedback is a lot better than a long, confusing wall of text. just as a long, well-written piece of feedback can be better than a short sentence that doesn't really explain what you are trying to say. as long as it's respectful, gets your point across and says if/how something could be improved it will already be great 
Unrelated but ash did you design the art design behind the new constellation? The idea is really nice
what mirian said! and also personally i honestly also prefer shorter feedbacks as well if it means they're sent in sooner, versus saving feedback all for a long post but it means you send it in later
I love that green mist behind the constellation! So soft and feels 3d!
How does one know if you received a gift of light?
is it an aurora borealis? it looks like it might be
I didn't, thats all our UI/UX dev dylan afaik! I DID however take a 30+ minute video showing my pains and woe's trying to light as many people as possible, by refreshing after entering/exiting a level, blocking people temporarily to show buried friends, and then unblocking them 
the sad part is, I dont think i even got halfway through my friends list >_>
My goodness 😂
I guess we can all have Sky star signs now
i'm also glad that i'm not the only one who thinks the camera is super aggressive when you're trying to light someone <.<
Now... I have a question, did the constellation in eden change too? I'm putting my phone on the charger cuz my phone has almost no battery life rn, so i can't go see it by myself
Especially the solar system. Thats for sure a roller coaster every time i open and close a friend from it😵💫
I believe the weather may be calling for some auroras in our forecast! 
@gilded tree look at my funny meme #beta-discussion message
stuff like this is also great to share in #beta-feedback (whether you like or dislike the roller coaster feeling haha)
aurora borealis? at this time of day, at this time of year, in th- you get the deal 
Already done
i like it irl not so much on screen
Within your ktjn? Kitchen?
how did the simpsons have such a on-point clip, thats what i wanna know
Can someone answer me that? 
Ok but is anyone else wondering whats the deal with the emote bug w lv3 stretch?
In #beta-screenshots-videos there are small vids of the stretch emote lvl 3 & 4 being different. (it's a bug) The question being, is this actually from the new season? 👀
My game just crashes when I try to use it nvm
Try lvl 4, it's glitched too
I don’t own beta i just come here to talk about it 🌝 last invite wave released like the literal second i went to eat dinner. Thats ok right 
xD i joined on the last invitation (season of the little prince)
I never know there was ever an eden constellation 
Eden?
Is it…beta Eden run time? 
Looks like i have something to look for next time 
Oh I think he means Orbit. That is something to check out
The friendship constellation is really great! It will take some getting used to for sure but I really enjoy it so far!
When you finish eden, you can find the constellation and wardrobe on the way to the reborn gate
I absolutely agree!!!!!
Can someone take a pic of the home space as you fall back to home during rebirth? Want to see how the aurora looks from far away over the homespace
Please 
I’ll do eden right now 🏃♂️
And take the opportunity to check the constellation in eden too 
Sure, just give me like a half hour
if someone else doesn’t get there first
Same. Why does it make me think there will be ocd sky kids that will probably spend 2hrs a day trying to make the perfect groups and constellation arrangements? 🤔 😂
can i join?
Tyy nastyy
I just did eden actually. 
oh
Did the constellation change in there too???
Part of my feedback was about the dots on Zoomed Out Constellation to change it from dots to star. So I'm asking for those folks who have seen the Zoomed Out Constellation, did it somehow trigger your trypophobia? 
Hang on I got a video of me getting valley hair. I'll check to see the if the constellation changed. I kinda blew through it cuz I wanted hair
Okie :>
So far the constellations look the same actually
Wait so they didn't change eden constellation? :<
Although there were some little things I noticed in eden that were nice. Like when you officially die from the rock rain, it's a faster time for your skykid to become a statue. Instead of walking around for 30 seconds, it's like 5
#beta-feedback i guess?
Why can't I enter skybeta after I update
I really like the constellation update though. The only nitpick I have is to see the % of completion for each realm const. I couldn't seem to find it.
might be blind though
just saw the friend cons, looks nice but omg. it's making me feel dumb and confused
same, this is going to take a lot of getting used to 
xD, we are gonna get used to it at some point
the fast camera pan is making me very dizzy
otherwise i'm mostly ok with this change. now if only i could actually find people still.... how do i have so many beta friends
It should show a flag on a completed Constellation but a Question Mark when incomplete. But yeah, no percentage indicator
It does for when it's complete. But I want to know the percent I'm at for the ones I haven't completed
They should still add a search function. To search friends and organize them properly
Yes that was the only major issue I had with this iteration of the constellation. The minor one I had was that the constellation dots didn't align properly for GW and vault constellations.
Yeah, already checked seems like there's no percentage indicator. I guess, it would be best if you would suggest it to #beta-feedback
should know its in WIP
The new constellation layout is so fresh looking! I just watched your video btw
The new constellation is cute but could be more practical.
- I need multiple more slots in a sub-constellation to effectively light up people
- separate spirit and friendship constellation icons at home shrines are faster and easier to navigate
- I must click too much to get into a sub-constellation now, it needs polishing
- I need page buttons to browse sub-constellations while zoomed in
- I need to see sooner who's online from my best friends (in the old system I open 1 button at home and already see who's online from my favourites)
- the older spirit constellation is better in terms of no zoom needed, I already saw the icons of spirits. Something similar would be great on friends constellation- favourites as default view. If they want to keep zoom, let zoom in be the default view on favourites.
ooh it's out, time to nyoom to yt
The new stone textures look very nice in eden as well 
New constellation is good but why there's no "%" of realm you finished or outgoing to finish it
When using the friend constellation,
My PRIMARY GOAL is to send light to friends and get light so I can earn hearts
My SECONDARY GOAL is to find who is online so I can go visit them
With the old method, It was pretty easy to page through and see where I had “work” to do Iight candles, collect light. To find someone online, I had to page through, not ideal, but functional and this new method introduces a new set of problems that didn’t exist before.
This new UI hides what I have to do and makes it hard to navigate to do everything. I have to zoom and hunt to find my friends. I can’t see where there is light to collect or someone I can send light to. I can’t figure out who is online and tp to them
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
On live there's a problem that when you tried to speed lit all your friends but you misclick empty space during friend menu and constellation close it self. The overhaul design makes easier to prevent accidental misclick
I absolutely love the new friendship constellations. It would be neat if the icon of the constellation appeared next to their name or something while in the world, like a little badge.
oh god the misclicks 
We all have that damn experience
and sometimes you'd be really unlucky and misclick several times in a row
No changes to orbit constellation! Looks the same
i like the new constellation but it feels .. too polished? or like, not as charming? idk how to explain it, its jsut very different
Exactly my thoughts, I prefer the older version
I also can’t see how far in the friendship tree i am with a friend
bring back litting friends from a grave stone /jk
New constellations looks really clean. I can finally see my close friends that were not shown by the old one
Maybe adding a few indications on who is online either on the minimap or add an arrow to navigate between constellation would be nice
Close friends were shown by default on favourites on the old way 
Well, beta. What did you expect
Wait "you can place friends in one of 10 customizable friend group constellations"? I only saw five
the new constellation is still WIP is expected to be in beta for extended periods of time for polishing
wanting the old constellation back just because you saw the first version of the new constellation is rather counter productive
looking at this new constellation makes it look harder to find and light friends
lot of button presses i mean
I apologize in advance to the devs who read my somewhat lengthy feedback
i kinda disagree, since they do specifically ask for feedback. i think all feedback will be useful, even if its just saying why you don't like how the new constellation is.. idk
read the other half...
For me new constellation is very good, at least I can group my friends. But also makes feel the friend count was decreased
I think improvements can definitely be made to the new constellation, but the grouping is something I really like!
? i dont get your point 😭 i* think its counterproductive to not give your honest feedback just because it's new
Reading the patch notes hypes me up 😭
what are all the icons for the friendship constellations?
What the heck does the hug button/icon do?
honestly the new constellation stresses me out but i think i could get used to it
love how it looks haha. i think its just because its so new (in terms of beta) everyone is kinda shocked to see the change 
Wooo that one bugged stretch lv3 and lv4 emote ( evil laughing) maybe for the next season in Sky 
The new Friend Constellation makes me uneasy, the Sky of it is mostly just dots now-
Ill miss the stars alot
It’s not shocking, it’s clunky and slow to navigate. Nothing about it is appealing to me.
AYYO
in my opinion it is, sorry if it seemed like i was saying everyone was shocked 
Best bug ngl
Nevermind, I figured out how to get the other ones to appear. There's You and I, umbrella, manta, drum, crown, jellyfish, butterfly jars, crab, harp, gravestone
Trying to figure out how to get people OUT of groups now…back into the radar pool
lmao, my game crashed tryna do other emotes
im not saying don't give feedback... in fact im supporting giving feedback
the new constellation is something they intent on improving, just because its in an early stage doesn't mean its inferior to the old constellation and shouldn't see the light to day
they worked on this for a long time and they intent to improve it, give feedback and make improvements rather than asking for the old
Maybe after u organised it will be more convenient, cuz u will rmb the spot whete u placed the person(◕‿◕✿) i started to like it
You need to have at least one friend in a single constellation to see the rest
If the dots in the group friends was changed to stars, it might be looking cool like in the spirits constellation
Probably season of villain 
is the blocked friend tab still the same?
expressing how and why you prefer the old one still feedback., oh well i don't think this is getting anywhere
anyways to me it feels so.. high tech (?compared to the rest of sky i guess) and complicated with all the movement and different buttons, it doesn't feel very sky to me right now. i'll have to wait and get used to it tho :,))
evil laugh.... my queer coded villain dreams can finally be realized
We had our Seasons in many different ways,
Flight representing one the most important aspects of the game-
More lore was revealed to us aswell, especially for the Lore Players in the game
i will say it reminded me of tomorrowland from disney when i first looked at it 
preference is valid, dismissing the new constellation as objective worse and will never surpass the old constellation is a matter of debate
Ill miss stars, now I just see dots
Advance apologies to any of my beta friends who don’t get light from me while I adjust to the new paradigm
They can just replace the texture for that later. We are just testing the functions right now I would guess
pain
i need this update urgently
In moments like these, I remember how many iterations it took until the new candle counter felt right. It was an adjustment at first, and I’m happy now with where it ended up.
all the zooming is kinda off putting to me, and i think the realm/spirit constellations are more complicated now when they were fine,,,
well, we'll just have to wait and see if the other half of the constellation update will fix some of these issues, if not, more feedback.
ah, i can sense the headache for the switch players if this comes to live- (yes, ive sent feedback. I am also a switch player on live)
The yellow and white light is back lmao, I wish they change it tho cause it's so hard to differentiate
very, maybe keep the old colors. also, im just wandering, does anyone else find it hard to look at with all the dots? Like, not "ew, its bad to look at" i mean, literally hard to look at without your eyes getting confused?
The new ui looks very organized, but it doesn't feel like

its gonna be so difficult to light all your friends-
agreed 100%
Has this new constellation of friendship increased the number of friends you might have?
sky 3000 years into the future 😭
is the missing friendship constellation icon in the constellation pad a bug or intended 
another thing i like about this new system is the zoom in, before if a 1 skid stood close it will cover my entire sky
It seems that it will take longer to ascend your friends, unfortunately we won't have a button that does this as it goes against the game's guidelines for some reason.
intentional or not, i kinda like how theres just one constellation button bc the amount of times ive misclicked and gone to the wrong constellation is so irritating 
by the way... one of the constellations for me appears an octopus... Could it be that and what am I thinking?
It's something a bit new to sky, we're not used to it
wow that never happened to me, it was a time saver not to have to swipe back to friendship const each time
maybe ur referring to the jellyfish? 
I'm so hapoy that TGC is trying to fix the problem of the black screen i feel better now that i know there's hope
If you’re looking at the constellation, then there is literally no way to see friends around you. Awful design. They’re just standing there honking away and you’ll never hear them.
The friends icon is not there and the constellation icon comes out like this
Why are you being so critical about it? It's still in beta
Absolutely incomprehensible interface, how to use it now, I have no idea
Probably the button will be back in the next updates
SEARCH BUTTON WHEN
"Awful design" doesn't sound like feedback 🧍
i feel like the groups would be more helpful when trying to find a specific friend to send a heart or warp to, but not when you're lighting everybody at once.. i like being able to sort stuff into groups but lighting everyone is just going to get harder
It absolutely is. Just not positive
i don't see how not being blocked by other players while looking at a interface is a problem
Sky Community knee-Lay asks to make "light all" button, and get "that"
Wait until friends are trying to get your attention while you stand there blind and deaf. Then you’ll see the problem.
u can't see them, but u can still hear their honks.
for me when i open my sky i wanna see my sky, not the sky kids running around me, nevertheless if u haven't don't forget to leave your feedback in #beta-feedback
Well TGC is less likely to hear your rambling here, #beta-feedback is more ideal
i mean its clear that your busy looking at constellations? its like honking away at an afk player, don't expect them to magically come back to your presence
I know how it works, J. But thanks for the feedback.
How does it look when you receive it give hearts?
Same
It’s nice to be able to know your friends have joined/been paired with you. It could be as simple as displaying their name at the bottom of the screen, so it doesn’t interfere, but still alerts you
i gt mis click on this new build that i dun wanna try anymore... especially when constellation star is at the bottom of the screen... near to the tabs for friends/ spirits... it annoys me...
I don’t see a difference when a heart is sent. I think you have to tap through, same as older versions. I won’t know about received until tomorrow.
"Modernize" UI
no difference for heart sent i think.. heart received will have hearts floating around that star
That's why I don't really like it (I've sent feedback about it already)
I'm a fan of the cleaner look. the old one always looked clunky to me
im a fan of the cleaner look too but it could use more colors
It's all about preferances I guess, I do think the dots should be labelled stars, dots look very dull 
I still want the what names of the realm constellation and %. Also make the friend and normal constellation bar at top instead bottom
As long as it's usable and pretty I've never had a huge eye for small aesthetic things
After the ui is done being polished maybe I'll care more haha
I still wondering on feedback channel they still didn't change description about @Thathelpbot which retire in 10/15
i think the current online indicator is much more noticeable than having their star lit up. im sure things will change but the new constellation kind of just looks like a big mess to me. but im sure the dots are just placeholders
Yeah, it's still on early stage of development so I doubt they'll keep the stars, I'm quite glad they increased the number of friends that can appear at once, my constellation is flooded rn 🧍
honestly i think the "dots" are meant to imitate the stars in the credits
the friends constellation definitely going to be a challenge just to lit friends and collect the light from them 
So glad they're releasing this for testing, the friend ui was in such desperate need of an update 
From the vids and screenshots I've seen, it might be possible to have light collection without the need to zoom in, same for lighting friends if a long press if ever added. Only downside would likely be not seeing names
I agree
the favourite friend constellation is giving me bohr model vibes
omg, now I can't unsee it
bohr?
the typical representation of atoms you've seen in science class
oh that, yeah really looks like that
It reminds me more of the solar system from the top, but I can see it 
Yeah it's meant to look like a solar system, but I just can't unsee the atoms now
I have a doubt about the new system: before, putting someone in your favourites allowed you to receive a notification when they come online; which constellation do I need to place them in now to get the same result?
The astrolabe has been greatly transformed, that is to say, we now have a number of friends who are particularly concerned about?
I hope they fix the part where the friend constellation closes if you accidentally missed to tap the right part.. it should let you remain in that screen unless you press the close button
I hate to open the friend astrology over and ovrr just to find that person and light them
I'd also love it if TGC would add a button to light up all friends and collect all friends lit in one click 😋
If I have 140 friends, and love to light everyone, that would take lot of time 😫
Being able to change groups without backing out of the current group would be a nice addition...
The new astrolabe is too dizzy to use, and I feel dizzy when I send my love.
+ tiny spell = atom
I find a tiny hope if one day we can land on other planets in sky world
DELETE FRIENDS BUTTON WHEN
that will never happen
And for a good reason
i rather have the search button tho
I hope that the function of deleting friends can come out early, sometimes I don't really want to blacken it, and maybe I will meet it somewhere in the future.
as ktjn said before, they wouldnt want a player to delete a friend in a moment of passion. one might regret it and want to rekindle their friendship with said blocked friend
oops, I deleted my friend
is something I don't want to do in the middle of some argument
I want Light All feature 
Never gonna get it 

i cannot log in sky beta
||not me, i want delete
friends cuz they not my friend but not online any more, and player i hate
||
block
I don't know how to feel about the new friend constellation. It looks aesthetically pleasing but in terms of functionality, is this any better than the previous constellations? I feel like this will make the whole process of lighting ppl a lot longer. I don't have a ton of friends on beta so I can't really test that as a feature.
||no I want them to disappear completely, because one day I will see them again somewhere, it makes me tired||
atm its in the early stages, we can really say that its incomplete
If you remove them as a friend, you have the chance of running into them again, dressed differently and run into the same cycle again. It would be better to block someone like that so you don't run into them.
#beta-feedback to help improve em
Me wondering where is the new social location that is mentioned in this beta update 
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
iirc its just an upgrade to the prairie caves "sauna" area
Can I ask?
How to display 10 friend constellations
I see someone has 10 constellations but I only have 3
I was able to show the other group constellations by putting at least one friend in the empty group. Once one friend is in the group, an empty one pops up.
Nope
I wanna ask about something... so from before the home area have a snow storm and more grey-ish colour tone, but now its gone, is the snow storm permanently gone or it'll return in stages like the blossom tree? I personally loved the snow storm update 
There still is no official comment from any developer but I assume it will return in live as a part of a stage
anyone remember the time when graphics on android actually looked good?
Alright, thank you! 
I see, thank you

My post was a response to someone wanting to remove a friend when the better option would be to block to avoid seeing them again.
if you remove a friend, the chances of you running into them aren't predictable. They can impersonate as someone else and befriend you again
Meanwhile with blocking, the chances of you running into them can be adjusted. And if you have good hearted friends, it can be 0%
I personally don't see too much changes with the android graphics, but maybe that's just because of my weak vision-
graphics are kinda bad for people with high end phones lol
i think android used to have close to iphone graphics, but then tgc started considering people with lower end phones and just cut the quality by like 20-30% for everyone lol
hello,now I can’t enter beta,I wait a minutes ,nothing happened,what wrong with this ¿
But you will appear as a stranger to them and they can never interact with you
I actually imagine how awkward it would be if "remove friend" feature is available, if someday u meet again and talk and find out it was ur removed friend... At least with blocking there's no talk/interaction
what about those who's block for send daily lights
I think it was kinda the point of constellation overhaul? Temporary blocking to send lights isn't supposed to be done imo, that's just a workaround for limited display of friends. I personally prefer to restart game to refresh constellation, tho I don't aim to light each one of my friend.
If you have mutuals that are friends with the blocked person
Maybe it's time to tell them to block as well. If the reason for you to block them is reasonable, I'm sure they'd understand 
imagine having above of 140 friends heheheh
well not all players light every single friend so i see that point
also how refresh constellation without join in a realm?
I admit it's not enough, maybe someday TGC can find way to upgrade it again with new tech or something
In the old constellation i was able to refresh friend constellation by restarting the app, tho I don't have 200 friends on favorite that is.
I haven't been able to check the new constellation cuz sky eats battery quick I'm currently outside
I'm surprised that it's 140. I was expecting maybe 100 or 120, but double our current limit is pretty good
But yeah, when Sky eventually moves away from old mobile version in the future, we'll get a limit increase
About the latest updated friends constellation, I wanna ask which constellation is same as group of favourite friend? Is it only the crown constellation? Or jellyfish constellation and other also can group our favourite friends
crown 
we definetly need button for sending lights to all friends at once
I'd assume all grouped friends = favourite friends in old system, so basically a big extension (25>80) for that
oh wait we can groupt them
My favorites split across the groups. I would assume anyone with more than 8 favorites would have experienced the same.
because we spend everyday sending lights to +75 friends one by one and thats kinda annoying
oh hi
sup
Refer to this message by Ktjn
#beta-discussion message
A developer stated that it's never going to happen. They want you to appreciate each and every of your friends, after all, the light feature is very much a gift of gratitude
oh wait sorry, wrong link lmao
Hearts are a social currency after all
There we go, fixed
If you want to gain hearts from lighting friends, you gonna work for it 
lol
Light feature Expectations: Used as a gift of gratitude
Reality: A tedious way to gain hearts - lost its original motive
I always saw the light a friend feature as a "I'm still here friend, and I'm thinking about you.
"
My moth self used to see the light feature as a kind gift to my friends, now I pile up 80+ active daily lighters so I have enough hearts 
Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game.
Maximum efficiency gains
"Most Efficient Tactic Available" does kill the fun in games. I find breaking the meta more fun and just enjoying the game.
I don't get how having daily lighters ruin the fun, I still enjoy the game? 🧍
there are several stages to the weather in Home over the course of the feast event ❄️
I seem to have found a bug in the spell section: the amount of spells I have sometimes missing. Ex: I have like 3 beach ball spell, but it only show 1. I bought another 2 spells and it still show 1. It happen to some others as well. Does anyone experince this as well?
(yes, I'll put it in bug report)
Reality: A tedious way to gain hearts - lost its original motive
I see it did ruin the meaning of a very interesting and personal feature. Using the meta of "daily lighters" made it lose it's significance to you.
Using a META doesn't kill the fun for me though. 
I guess some people find it fun to light 80+ people 
It's not even that hard to light 80 people, I'm quite used to lighting my friends rapidly
As long as I get a heart 
In my opinion, the old design of the friend constellation is great. The new one is fine but it makes our lighting to friend harder than before. Moreover, I love the old so much. When I open the friend constellations, I directly see my friend's star without finding it. I hope they won't change the new one. TGC can design 2 icon - 1 for friend constellation, - 1 for Spirits. And the friend constellation is like the old but it will have 140 friends
The old constellation was quite messy though, I prefer sorting out my friends into groups (moths, random strangers, discord ppl, close friends etc) I do agree that lighting friends became tedious. Still, I rather have an organisable constellation than lighting friends easily 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
You can see my picture. First, I thought it would be nice but now I feel very sad 😦
The main issue I have with this new iteration of the constellation is that the camera pan is way too fast. I dont really get dizzy easily, but this was quite disorienting. Some adjustments to the camera might make me feel better about it
I hope they change the dots to stars and label the stars, it looks so odd, other than that I don't have much issues with this update
for me, the update is fine, it's clean, need some more tweaks though (bring back stars)
before, you can have about 80 friends visible in conste and few can be, sort of, pinned in the front page
now you can pin up to 80 friends
and 40 (60, aruno) more friends show up randomly (same system to the old conste ||block a friend or restart game for other friends to show up||)
in the new conste, you can't use the reason "sorry, can't find you in the conste, I think you got fallen off from it" anymore
a friend came back to sky (live server), I favorite him and we unlocked every friend interaction and gave hearts to each other before he quits, but it's hard to find each other
that's the problem of the old conste
looking for friends that went inactive or got less interaction with you for a while is hard
I do like the gravestone group. I will be putting close friends who quit along the way in my Sky journey there. 
Is that a typo in patch note or did I misunderstood something about max displayed friends
It said 140 at max, but we have 10 new groups for 80 friends & extra 40 rooms for random friends... (120 in total)
Where are the leftovers
I try to light my friend in beta, It's hard for me to light friends ,the dot of friends are a bit small, I was easily misclick the area out of dot and accidentally quit the certain group of friends. So I need to click one more time the group just now and continue to light. And misclick, and steps repeated like before. I am totally fine with the grouping,but the dot of friends is too small for me.
In the fridge waiting for them to bake it in a future update. 
It's hard to see if someone light my light now
But I'm glad we can have more friends
Totally agree with that. Because the larger star represent how much we interact/ unlock the friendship tree with them. It's like an achievement for me 😭Now the dots are so dull .
Let's all just hope the current dots are just placeholders. This is the first iteration of a long process to a big overhaul of a major game feature.
let's do feedback and tell them bring back the stars
someone saw me using lvl4 emote and feel like they thought im a hacker
I like old design we are all stars but now just dots
I need answers 
yay gifting feature
"In memory of" Section in the constellation
I know right

Does the new update have a "gift all/light all"
if you read #beta-announcements, there isn't any mention about that
that is never going to happen
I think we can turn the old design and the new design into a convertible one.
about “gift all button”
“message from ktjn about light all button”
#questions-and-help message credit to tea.
If someone likes the old design, use the old design.If someone likes the newly designed one, use the newly designed one.
And such a grouping feels very troublesome for me with few friends.
its a UI change, much like the general UI with the tab groups now
I think that would be too tedious for the devs to have 2 systems and I doubt that'll happen
The new constellation design is a bit hard to digest that’s for sure. And I have my negatives with it already, but I’ll give it a bit more time so I get used to how it works before I draw any final lines 
If it's a hassle, I think you can keep all your friends in the solar system grouping, that holds 40-60 ungrouped friends
the new constellation is a work in progress, it needs lots of optimization, feedbacks about it are very much welcome to help it
Mainly think it is a bit to operate., need to click on a lot of things.It may also be because of my personal feelings.
you're welcome to make a feedback in in #beta-feedback 
Yeah I can definitely see that! Thankfully this is the first pass of it, so it will change according to feedback. But for a first pass this looks solid imho, a lot of work went into this 
Also been a highly request change for a long time, I practically see it in every other post in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived 
Sometimes it is difficult to adapt to such great changes.
It’s funny to think, it went from (friend constellation specifically) shrine statues scattered in home space, to the current live one, to this (with the ability that it will most likely change before it hits live). It’s a big change
well it turned from a more involved process to less, and then more again
old general UI also had some negative feedback because it needed more optimization, and because people are used to the old UI, but now its pretty nice, and the emote tabs are absolutely nice so you don't have to endlessly scroll down like the old UI
the new Constellation UI is very promising
Imagine having to light 140 friend statues
No
Imagine having 140 friends
Because I only have more than twenty friends.So the new design may be for me.And I don't necessarily light the statue of every friend statues
Hmmm. If it’s possible I think we still need the circular round thing to see where your friend is online cause rn I see vague difference. And the zoom is
need to have it scrollable or easier to operate cause whenever I wanna move a friend from the constellation for easier access it’s just hard
Easy with controller, probably. But for small screen phones/touchscreen, hmmm. Don’t think so. Gonna write a proper feedback.
Imagine having friends
Wouldn't everyone use convenient features well?
I feel that for people who pay special attention to a lot, they need to look for those in many icons.
Good point. Right now a online friend is a fully lit star (white in color, not transparent). Maybe have it twinkle. Could be cute. 
I like the groups in general but i miss just swiping between them to go to the next one rather than tapping a lot. I also miss the motion indicating our friend is online. Something moving would be more noticable for me than the shiny dot
Honestly, seeing screenshots of the Live UI where players have friends that they unlocked everything with, it looks so complicated and makes my eyes tired. I like the new design so much better, it's very pleasant to look at.
can someone share me where are the other passive light areas? i only found 3: prairie cave, dreams village, crab bbq...there was one big stone fire in valley temole maze but disappear
They glow white when online, but I guess I can see how it might be hard for some players to properly distinguish offline and online
Sunny forest where the big table is but its like the geyser. Wax appears in certain times only
they could either decrease the brightness of offline players or increase the online players
I think this design is desirable, but it will be more troublesome to operate than before....
I can definitely see my young self getting lost trying to navigate.
One thing I mentioned in feedback was how difficult it was to see the 'lit' ring when a friend is online, it basically blends in
They are all white, which is very difficult.
Anyone knows if online notifs still work the same as usual for mutual friends? 
I just hope it won't be so troublesome to operate, And this star map looks very good to me.
Idk of you know the towers of Hanoi game but rearranging the constellation feels like that game
i want to place this friend here, but i have to place someone somewhere else etc.
Indeed. I can see it, but it needs quite a bit of familiarising, I suppose. I could easily familiarise with the change of emote tab but I think this one takes a while. And I’m using a large screen. I could only picture how some other devices would struggle with this. They’re tiny…. 
I think it's redundant to divide special attention into several parts.
< our eyes like this
All the while, I’m loving how the constellation looks. Default spirit constellation just still need their names and percentages the first time we clicked on them, is my opinion.
I like the previous design very much, and I think the only thing that needs to be improved is that it will make redundant friends squeeze out constellation and light up friends very troublesome
i prefer old design as well.. technically would want a refresh button so i find find ppl... especially for those who are online
In fact, it should only be divided into special attention and ordinary friends.
Turning the design of an ordinary friend into a new design, I should think.
Me too.If only we had a refresh button it’ll be easier to find friends and also we wouldn't have to block so many people while sending lights.
A refresh button would work well for the solar system group, also prioritising unlit friends
please don't forget to post in feedback, designers do not monitor the chat channels for feedback.
It's getting easier to find friends 
I also like the old version.
I like both versions. In terms of organising, this version is best, in terms of lighting friends easier, the previous version was better
I can't understand this version of the star map.

I prefer the new version
basically I can sort my named friends in a new constellation group which I can easily label and the new random ones are in the solar system for me to sort of need be
I think this to allow more friends to be shown and more friends to be group differently... but the camera pan on solar system and the lighting of friend is giving me a splitting headache
You'll get used to it the more it's used, after all, its new! 
I'm also happy that I can choose which position I can place my friend when sorting so they don't just change position everytime the constellation refreshes just like in live
I can tell that panning around the solar system is sorta odd, the same as with the constellations, atm it slides too much
Yep👍
i feel that panning around the solar system is easy to miss out... unless you have a super large screen to pan around...
I think it can be appropriately smaller.
I also like this new version. What makes it a bit too hard to organise is the fact that you have to manually move friends before putting another friend in that constellation. And those constellation are mostly filled already. Considering live friends, I might have to take a whole day reorganising. Also refresh buttons could be good, I hope it’s easier for the devs to make it somehow refreshable.
hoping that the new custom constellations more slots instead of 10
Just to understand what you are saying - Refresh what? What should happen when we click the refresh button?
Limited view space up to a certain numbers, click on refresh.. so that a new page of friends appeared
Oh sorry! 140 friends is the maximum is it not? Probably a refresh button in the solar system constellation?
As Tsukasa said ⬆️
but i do hope it doesnt bug like the medi refresh orz
Ok sort of like page 1/2/3 for entire constellation itself? 🤔
I just saw someone use a snow globe on live servers…..is this a joke?
I thought in current implementation the solar system will have friends list getting refreshed just like in live. While the grouped constellation stay static. May be i read into it too much
Definitely a hacker accessing unreleased content
report if possible and move on..
It feels better in itself, because I haven't understood the new version yet.
Nastymold posted a video about the constellation rework, see if that helps you understand it more
OK, thank you.

How can u organise the constellation if u have more than 140 friends?👀 Like i can switch ppl if i have an empty spot, what if i dont have ?👀
Then you'll have to leave that friend in the solar system place until you get an empty spot
You can tell that this is a first sketch. It feels very unfinished, so definitely good to formulate how we all want it to change.
How is it a solution 👀 i wont have less friends there won't be ever empty spots cuz i have 500 or more friends
I don't get it 
All of your 500 friends will be in the solar system icon until you organise some into the 10 constellations
If all 10 constellations are full, you'll have to swap
i guess she want to say she has lots friends
feels weird that the Realm Constellations dont have a label, like Isle or Daylight Prairie, hoping they get their label back soon
No
I only have less than 60 people.

The question is how to swap, i cant swap two person, i only can put someone into an originally empty place.
In beta?
Yep

you pick one friend on that constellation, place them on the solar system, pick the other friend and place them to the free spot in the constellation
your question is sorta confusing so people aren't sure how to answer it properly
oh u means cant switch friend star cuz you have lots of friend and havent free spot?
the display limit is still up to 140... meaning that 360 friends would still not be showing if in solar constellation
i think they're trying to say it's gonna be harder to organise when you have 140+ friends
anna's question context:
- they have all 10 friend group constellations full, as well as all the solar system friend systems full
- so how will they be able to slot in someone from the solar system -> groups if all the slots from the 10 are already full
Yessss, thank you 🥺
hope that helped clear things up!
Well it already was. So nothing changed in that front. Atleast you now get to see almost double the no. Of friends than before
If it's already full, then it's full, you can't place anymore unless you swap
thou this bring up another question, so when you hit 140 friends... and still adding peeps.. would new person pop up or it depends on luck to see them in solar constellation
U can't swap two person with each other
I think, due to tech limits, we can only have 140 friends displayed at a time, no work around in that other than blocking and unblocking I guess,
I do think that the Solar system also refreshes from time to time, but I don't have more that 140 friends in beta so I can't test that
I'm not a beta member so I don't know 
I think what anna means is that you can't swap places because there's no free spots to move the person who was originally in the dot. You can't swap them out.
I'm assuming all new ones/old ones without their dedicated position in groups get a place in solar system automatically that randomly refreshes to show different set of friends. Can't confirm this like another player mentioned I hardly have enough friends in beta to first fill the 10 constellationz
by right when you go to different realms and u go back home.. the friend's constellation is suppose to refresh but it isn't .. at least for mine it isnt would that be the same as the current system then?
anyway I still want to switch their star cuz i havent time to find and put someone to empty spot, like 2 friends are all in 1 constellation but u have to put 1 to another constellations, and put them back
This is actually also my concern. (Noting to feedback this)
I think it could work if they auto-replace people when we want to assign a friend to a full constellation.
The new constellation is flawed as for now, but let's keep leaving feedback so that it will be ideal when it comes to live 
Now it is clearer.. So there is no option to swap on the fly. What others suggested is you temporarily place them in solar system, remove the one from constellation (do the same- place them in solar system) and put the other one back in to the empty slot you created.
In current version you can use the solar system as temp holding space to swap friends in constellation. Not convenient - feedback.
But if u have no empty place at all .. i can just block ppl then move to there my friend then unblock
So you are saying solar system gets full and you are no longer able to take someone from constellation and place it there? (I thought solar system didn't have limit cuz it is meant to hold all unorganised friends)
I can't verify this as I don't have enough friends to test in beta
can you take a friend from the constellation and place them on the solar system if the solar system is full?
just mean she want to switch their spot
we're figuring out a way to to that with the current features since we can't test it fully
I'm able to swap out using solar system as temporary holding area. But I'm unable to test the limits...
Ohhhh.... Oki sorry i just found out i can take into the solar system anyone i want from the 10 group even tho my solar system looks full 💕🤦🏼♀️
I can also do that bus since I don't have 140+ friends, I also can't test the limits
this message was what I meant about that lmao
Can you post the pic of a full solar system?
they posted a vid about that
Foxie posted it
what does ktjn do relating to sky? do they code, or model stuff, etc
I didn't understand about the lit. We can literally lit everyone even if they offline or online? Or even, when we get lit from them?
like normally, u can lit if they received old light, if they blocked u, u cant lit them or received light
that part hasn't changed from the current system where you can light ppl regardless of if they're online or not
what HAS changed is the visual indicator to show that they've been lit, which is a small lighter border around the dot.
or they are not online
this isn’t related to the conversation but are they adding the leaked emote to the next season? i really love it so much….
wait i wonder how can we know the difference when its only heart and light or both
We don't know, testing for the next season hasn't started
ohh okay i haven’t updated my beta yet so i didn’t know 
(I'm not a beta player so my opinion is only from what I can see from videos)
it seems if someone has gifted you a heart, there are heart particles around the dot, but I haven't seen what it looks like if you've given one. Maybe it's just the same as live where there's no visual change.
in old system we have big heart in the middle but new system dont have
if you look at anna's video and pause at the beginning, it shows what that looks like
You can check #beta-announcements to see what's waiting for you
Okay thank ya!
if they lit u will have small light around but if if they send hearts, I dont know when I still not accept their hearts
We don't know yet, but I would love an actual evil laugh emote soon
I think, it becomes red around the circle, because I got a heart with the new constellation
no i mean both, heart and light cuz im not accept their heart
they are Krill incarnate

We are calling that emote
"azula roasting zuko"
End of discussion
Oh... Idk then... :/
just replay the video until you see it
unfortunately the video moves really fast but if you just move the video play slider you should be able to see that it's animated
what you're looking at are the hearts around the dot
no im looking for small light when they lit me when im not accept their heart
The small lit has white small bubbles around their names
But... If I have both heart and lit... I dont know, because I got only heart from this person
yeah i hope they will have solution for that
I like the current live version where you just see a big heart icon
I sent a video on #beta-screenshots-videos. Can someone tell me, if they are a hacker or not? Lol
does the main crown still exist? wondering for lore purposes
hoping so
What leaked emote
it just finished updating!
its a bug of the lvl 4 stretching emote
it’s like.. another laugh emote but it either gives me bakugou from my hero academia vibes or just some evil laugh 😭
Oh lol
absolutely love this but getting rid of the crown kinda screws over some of the lore - the context of the Vault summit cutscene
that as a template, as the main one, would be nice
the crown is still there
crown's just got more friends with
What's the emote? 🥲
it is? nice
I sent feedback way too prematurely, will correct myself in a second…that’s embarrassing
stretching emote from little prince
Is it? Lol
Thank chu. It's funny xd
the shape of it is relevant to lore thoughhh
actually never mind it was worth sending after all

therefore what even is the crown constellation we see in the Vault cutscene
a big part of lore can’t be retconned just like that
aside from that I’m very very impressed but can’t give feedback outside of an outsider perspective
The friends crown constellation used to be called the light. Now it's just behsties
I shall senddd a thing about ‘keep it as The Light’ right now
perhaps it wasn't relevant to lore at all
I sent a feedback asking to restore specifically that one to it's former glory since most of us have more than 8 behsties
it ruins the fun mysterious feel in a way, the friend constellation has actual lore
it’s what we see in Lamed/Vault Elder’s cutscene
You talk about the constellation space for starred people as our favorite ppl?
It's more than 8 ppl, I think
Yes, it's called The Light constellation. we think it's relevant to the lore
Why tho? Im a little confused here 😅
it's all up to the players' interpretation of the story. I see The Light as the constellation for Eden, and the players as the fragments of Eden King.
it’s the fact it shows up in an important cutscene is why I say this
I worry I come off as someone whom always finds negatives in stuff but uh
this is absolutely great but shouldn’t retcon something crucial
All constructive feedback is a good thing.
Also do you think the changing homespace design for days of feast is tgc trying different styles to pick one...or actually tgc will apply all three , one each week , during the event?
you're not, that's a legitimate complaint for someone who's interested in the game's lore
the latter, I think
they're continuously changing how the home space looks*, I honestly think that they haven't found anything they settled with
I hope it's the changing homespace for the event...I think the development of being cozy to then step out after the blizzard clears is a nice touch. And timing of the northern lights with clear skies for say New year's would be amazing
lore example uh
the phrase ‘as spirits we soon became many’ because some people interpret it as ‘the spirits never died, they were always spirits’
but there’s lots of evidence they are dead, and even in the name spirit it’s obvious, therefore they are
perhaps it means something metaphorical like ‘we all died (perhaps in the Eden explosion) and lived above the kingdom but are now trapped in the mortal lands after the stars fell’
but that’s my interpretation at least - I just really really really hope that’s not saying that spirits never died and they’re some weird species
Am I the only, who wants to see the new seasonal area or am I too impatient? 👀
||no not here, u can DM someone not me cuz i dont know too
||

Ehm... Oke 👀
Oh look a wild ktjn appeared
The whispered implication of hacked content tickles my krill sense
And brought her clone with her.
Now confess which one of you summoned us?
ktjn go back to sleep its midnight 

honestly the bugged level 4 stretching emote is fun, evil laugh

Y'all... Isn't tgc leaking its own content good enough for you? Do you really need them other youtubers?
Whaa xD
ARSON

Villain origin story
now they edit their comment 
the youtubers i find funny because theyll “leak” stuff for the next season and then its not even close at ALL
yeah cuz i really dont know
I'm expecting some top shelf meme tier music for that emote.
It should be GROUND BREAKING
It should become ASTRONOMICAL
IT SHOULD DETHRONE JUGGLER
just want to said not here, its against ruler
I'm not a Youtube myself. Im not a hacker either 👀
do not call season of limenarcy at 3am
entire orchestra playing overly dramatic villainous jingle
Leaks
Where
All I see is 🐛
I wonder if making emotes needs a model/reference for that? I mean for the poses. Or do the devs just make a flawless animation.
Because now I’m wondering who posed for the diabolical laughter (brilliant bug tbh) or the slouching soldier lvl 3/4
🎶 HELLFIRE 🎶 FROM QUASIMODO
“ok, we need you to fall over on front and faceplant into the ground”
so one of the lvl3-4 emotes from little prince bugged and shows a weird laughing emote that has flame hands
Ugh classic Disney villain songs are

POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS
HELLFIRE
FRIENDS ON THE OTHER SIDE
sounds like an emitter gone awry
Puts on tinfoil suit
Speaking of that emote, I would like to present a tinfoil hat theory: What if that emote is meant to replace an emote or an addition to an emote, not for whatever next season is?
footage of playfight (because orange light) having too much fun with magic
That emote is ESSENTIAL
E S S E N T I A L!!!!
that would be funny if it was but it doesnt explain why an entirely new emote shows with it 
Or maybe the OG Laughing Light Catcher has additional emote?
mmmm oui oui.
perhaps a test animation or unused one
So we have arson stick and arson emote now ...?
evil laugh while you can folks
basically that
how is this not footage of the hypothetical motion tracking studio that filmed that
LEVEL 6 LAUGH EMOTE
Level 1 - hehe cute
Level 3 - lmao good joke!
LEVEL 5 COMMIT ARSON
Finally an update that should prevent Android crashing! Only for ios now, can't wait to see if it actually works 🥺
if tgc uses references for emotes i cant image a dev just doing the most insane ballerina acts for a single emote level
It's basically this emote animated

It's not a bug it's a sign of sky × Atla collab
I want to see crab walk and scare being filmed if that were to be the case
GO AZULA HANDS GO!!!!
finally people can stop calling Prophecy that /j
(all jokes aside it does kinda annoy me, it’s not automatically a reference in its existence, may have been inspired)
Imagine whoever go to pose for Snoozing Carpenter.
I wonder how they described crab walk
organising constellation when you have over 140 friends is like organising a full closet while keeping everything in the closet
or a full bookshelf but you can only change the spot of one book at a time
or
like
“hey we need you to do these funny tube man arms in a BOO SCARECROW motion”
Maybe it's what devs do on their separate servers i bet there's a krill saddle there too 



what if the emote is from their private server and we're reading too much into it
You think this emoji is just a cute thing? WELL THINK AGAIN!!!
NOT ONLY THEY HAVE KRILL SADDLES THEY ALSO HAVE....
inhales
KRILL POSSESSING SPELLS THAT GIVES THE KRILL'S POV
imagining the person putting on a witch hat and face sleeve/scarf to ‘get into character’
sounds like psychonauts to me
Ignis is a little hyper today
this constellation update is pretty much exactly what he dreamed of is why - is very excited
dark, have you seen us yesterday
No, I was asleep 😔
That doesn't look like an emitter gone awry 🤨
this in hindsight though
Does the new update have a search button to find friends?
Right, the constellation, I haven’t been able to test it in full because I’m stilly very confused about the layout
Wishful thinking I guess
I thought they were bringing back the old statue friends shrines i wanted to see my 300 friend statues 😔
oh my god lmao
#beta-announcements lists what’s new about the constellation, nothing beyond that
People organising over 140 friends see Marie Kondo in their minds eye and hear a whispering "Does this one spark joy?"
Oh right, what about that buddy statue in Prairie? Is it working yet or is it a selfie spot still? 
I SHRIEKED
Soooo am I the only one too overwhelmed by the new constellations 😭
I started screaming as soon as I heard about Belonging grandma knitting
imagine if I typed in here after reading about the questgiver hugs, I was freaking out for an hour straight elsewhere