#beta-discussion
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I dont know where to buy the summer lantern
Actually it's not that much, a trip to geyser in sanctuary gives you more than the plant.
Imagine they made the tree even bigger 
and a trip to geyser works only once 2 hours
That's fine, just log in at the right timing for 10 minutes. Or make multiple trips.
Id end up burning it no matter what since its like a “no wax left behind” type deal xD
Oh no, I sent a big report a while ago but it seems like they didn't work on that issue yet (and season is about to end, I'll be sad if I can't do this last mission :/)
do you realize people have things to do and might not be able to log in at those times?
the wax that the graveyard plant gives is actually so 🤏 when you don't have any chevrons left
Still , if you don't have a lot of time to do cr, wouldn't it better to just cr other realms? I assume daylight prairie and forest does a faster job.
Same :') I really wanna get the asteroid cape even if it's on beta
anything give so 🤏 when you don’t have any chevrons left
I suggest to skip and grab a cake by vault or isle
No one is obligated to farm every single realm.
i’m not saying don’t have time to do, i’m saying that they might not be able to log in at those times and still want their wax
Yeah i agree, and since more areas are being added or just different candle collecting options youd have more of a chance to avoid gw anyways
yeah but there was no reason for them to force krill trick patches, this game is far gone from being a journey sequel anyway
Well beta is still burning because the krill got buff? 
I think that's something they should able to come up with, whether to organize a different time to cr, or look for a friend to help them. I don't think tgc can forever compensate and help all types of players in the game.
most people don’t use the shop trick because they think they won’t be able to do it successfully anyway, and others aren’t aware of it
they didn’t need to help, they just needed to not do anything
If you don't have a lot of free time, then you always have the option of ignoring Wasteland entirely and running Prairie and Forest. You can't do a full candle run if you don't have free time anyways, daily light system was introduced so that you can get candles quicker and don't feel obligated to do a full candle run
I guess we just need to get use to it though 
my argument wasn’t not having free time, it was against the “geyser event” argument that was told to me
I don't use any tricks anymore ever since home trick got patched (rip)
I've come to accept that running away from how the game was intended and looking for shelter with exploits is not the way
i never go into wasteland except for quests
Sorry, i meant for them to look for someone to help them for cr, while they can afk when they are busy. Plus if you are an afk person, I would highly suggest not to farm gw during afk.
It’s easy to avoid krills but sometimes they are just bugged. That’s when i was using the tricks.
i uber a lot of people, i tell them to open the trick screen so they can do their thing while i cr. it helps everyone, it also stops moths from being scared of wasteland and just ignoring that area
About the big tree in graveyard
you can wait for server split and it will pop. We dont even need to burn it though
all you need to do is standing in the high place and wait
true, but I wouldn't really try and teach moths tricks then and there
first playthrough of the game and we teaching the moths glitches? what are we Sky: Children of Exploits? /lh
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
I don't teach moths krill tricks , they can choose to learn themselves from the internet. I usually teach them the right way to hide behind rocks and walls. But it should be known those are bugs, and it's never permenant.
I dont teach them that
They should patch the chibi fall
same here 
That's server merge and that happens only when someone already burned it in another server which will be significantly less likely with this update 
not their first play through of the game, i’ve seen a lot of moths just avoid the 3 krill area and i did the same when i started as well. after weeks of playing i think it was a good way they could get over their fear of krills
All moths are scared of krills, its the way of sky! We all were afraid of them at one point or another and then we learned how to work around them, I’ve never used any of the home or emote tricks. You can adapt to play sky how it was intended in the first place… some of y’all love to complain about everything
??
you can just @ me instead of saying some of y’all
Well there are hundreds of server
just wait though
You aren't the only one complaining
Krills are part of the game , glitches and bugs aren't intended. It was fun while it lasted, but we should stop relying on it too much.
I’ve been reading messages all morning actually, calm yourself down you’re not that special
right now i am the one that talks most about it by being against it
That doesn't mean you're the only person who's complaining about it
Just a oop moment
No one is a scaredy cat for being scared of krills. But teaching them using temporary cheap tricks and bugs to overcome fear shouldn't be the solution.
yes, but i see that most of the time this server acts like the other party isn’t here by seeing “some of y’all” or things that are around that sentence
The graveyard tree is fast to burn if you come with like 4 people (From my experience). In that way you can not be spotted by krill, it takes a few seconds to burn.
Have you tried sending in #beta-feedback 
There's also proper ways to channel your thoughts, likes and dislikes about it. That's why feedback channels exist 
what is the easy way of teaching a month old moth who doesn’t even know how to fly properly
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
Agree, I love chibi fall and all the OOB place I can see because of this, but in the same time I'm tired to see players skipping the help when there is already 3 other one waiting for the fourth to come to open the door...
There's no easy way. It's by learning from faults and errors like every other mmos.
your gears are rusty Skybot. shut up 
i did send a feedback it’s kinda disheartening when you say something you don’t like about the game and there are 10 people saying why your feelings are wrong
krills not being able to do their job and krill skykids they way they're supposed to is definitely a bug
krills targeting skykids under the land is also a bug theat they intend to fix
Vault chibis are ruthless 
Yup I hate those kind of chibi so iwant it to be patch
the light of Megabird has left us all, we are all left to face darkness on our own 
just wait for another server merge 
That's not how it works. The hundreds of servers will have significantly less burned tree, you understand? :) The less users burn it, the more you need to wait (plus you will need luck in this case). For me it's not relevant because I don't care with wasteland that much but it's good to understand the logic of servers.
Think about the krills! How else are they supposed to survive? 🥴😂
Nah thats a waste of time
noooo, we need more bugs to offer to the great Megabird 
All they need to do is patch the place so that they cant glitch in
dont need to patch the whole chibi trick tho
Maybe if there was an option to switch to a different server 😵💫
wow i wonder why i never thought that!
/j
most chibis solo run, so they are used to just doing the glitch. the game doesn’t really server merge when you are solo
guess ilp be staying out of wasteland then 
The server merges when it feels like it
Hey, at least high danger mobs (krills) only exist in one realm(for cr), unlike many monster world games. Really, it's just easier to cr every other realm and skip wasteland if you are having difficulties dealing with krills.
yes let’s just ignore a whole realm because they want to patch all the tricks found 
yeah, say 90% of the servers don't have the tree burned down, that's only 10% chance during the server merge that you'll get a server with a burned down plant
I like farming wasteland tho
suddenly missed battlefield gate trick

and there are a lot of carry spirits in that realm
Then learn the ways of around wasteland , the krills shouldn't be too much of an issue unless you got unlucky.
Cr in wasteland is easy too actually the route and timing is essential, I don't remember getting caught by a krill if I was cautious and there wasn't a sudden server merge
then one should be ready to take on the risks that includes that choice
What if you’re u lucky alll the time 
If you want to play in a high risk area , we need to learn the proper ways of dealing it. Not relying on temporary bugs and glitches.
it’s easy, it isn’t good when you uber others or moths who ignore the 3 krill area for months
I uber people a lot in GW and I never get krilled b’coz I know how to hide and time myself to avoid them.But the graveyard tree is literal pain at times even with other players
Coz not everyone is good at burning the tree.
Then ayy, that's good ain't it. Easy gw run. 
I know my ways. I’m just saying they should fix the krills first.
i know how to properly deal with it, people i uber don’t, sometimes i hide and people i’m holding hands with don’t fit in, sometimes one of us has bad internet and they get krilled, there is no reason to patch a trick most people didn’t use anyway
when in wasteland, id usually take my time with it just to be safe tbh
would ignore the big plant at graveyard if by the time im done there its still unburnt and im alone
The krills are actually fine, I assume the issue with sudden krill spotting is their servers and internet connection itself. Something that is quite difficult to fix.
I know my way to hide and stuff so idm, tricks were handy tho ngl, but I always expected them to poof one day
Krills floating around with scoliosis 
they announced it about the krills not behaving as intended, will get a patch soon
And? It’s time for players to up their ninja skills, or play together and have someone distract the krill, its seriously not much of a huge problem and many players already play without the emote or home tricks and succeed. Now you’ll feel even more accomplished when you do manage to burn that big tree or relive a spirit..
remembering the routes of the plants also help a lot
and how are we supposed to burn the plant without the trick? just collect 8 people since everyone has a sky group! 
That Graveyard Tree can easily be replaced with one trip to Polluted Geyser. On the plus side, Geyser gives more wax than Graveyard Tree
Its good for peoples lore in their own au 
Lets just buy Mario's pipe it can protect you from krills
most players don’t even know how to burn it correctly, so they just stay in the water with the trick while the other friend burns the plant
Around graveyard meditation 
Teach them during free time. I know it's difficult but eventually they will need to learn if they want to reduce getting krilled.
Source for that claim?
i never said i don’t know my way
So did this patch just happen? I used the trick this morning since I heard about it, but it still worked.
And your point is??? Now it’s time for them to learn how to burn it correctly then right?
that's on you for not exercising your plant burning skills without tricks
it's not so much about being unable to outplay the krill, it's more about the lag outplaying you. the amount of times I've been hit without a warning because of sudden lag spikes (with great internet connection) is laughable.
most players i experienced with* sorry for that
Sometimes i wish for a documentary on krills 

A part of game is to learn how to do things, if they don't know how to burn plants, dodge krills , candle run. We as a community should teach and advice them.
What device are you playing on? I can’t relate sorry
Tbf The game doesn't work smooth either so krill tricks would fr be handy for emergencies at least
There's no need for a source of that claim, take a trip to Wasteland every now and then and you'll notice what Anaty described happens sometimes at Wasteland.
the thing is, most don’t have the courage to burn it correctly. i’ve had friends who cried in real life because they couldn’t burn the plant properly and they were very relieved to learn about the trick. yes it’s a “you problem” but they could’ve done nothing to patch it and it’d be still okay
lags are not inherent to devices, unless it's a Nokia 3310. I'm playing on a Oneplus 7t Pro, with 8gb of RAM
Ymmv,a lot of people don’t visit the geyser.I can say that for trials too.Visit the geyser 3-4 times and you won’t need the trials wax at all.
People being afraid of graveyard plant even with the tricks is so evident tho, quite a population waits for it to merge and poof somehow instead
Maybe they exercise after a long day of krilling sky kids
visit the geyser 4 times in span of 8 hours! very easy
my only issue is that graveyard never wants to merge, I'd think I'd need at least 2 other ppl and it's difficult enough to get one other person for that tree when I go solo
Then they’re not ready for that area yet and should cr somewhere safe. I wouldn’t Uber a day old moth to Eden just because I can even though they can’t handle the controls yet
Crying for not being able to burn the graveyard tree? That’s a new low. Why not ignor it entirely if it’s that much trouble and venture elsewhere?
Sometimes fixes need to be done because it gets in the way of fixing other things. Example, the instrument ui is adjusted also ends up patching the krill trick. If I'm a developer , I wouldn't revert this change at all.
wait, do the geysers actually give that much wax? last i checked, they stopped giving wax after about two visits' worth for me
Before anything the krills should be fixed and thats that. Wether they become more killer machines or spikey huggables, im sure it’ll help with future gameplay.
They should start visiting it maybe 2-3 times. It will lessen their load on doing a full candle run
You can only visit geyser twice iirc.
the importance of the graveyard plant is quite obsolete with the daily light system imo, if you collect absolutely everywhere else the amount of wax is miniscule - it can be a fun challenge for when you want to do it
there are pro players who can’t burn the plants? it’s not just moths who don’t know how to burn, a lot of the moths i’ve seen don’t even know they can burn the plants
After they excercise for more sky kids they look for more sky kids and in their freetime…look for more sky kids xD such a beautiful cycle
Don't burn the plant , burn every other thing in the game you'll probably grey out your chevron without the graveyard plant.
You need 2 good enough plant burners with you burning each side at a time and a good timing after krills pass the area to be efficiently able to burn the plant without the use of any tricks, it's semi difficult
That’s what I’m saying.It’s a person’s choice if they want to skip the tree or not.
Me and my BF always go to Geyser, and it stops giving wax at 4th visit for us on the 0.14.0 Live Update.
But prior updates doesn't give wax on 2nd visit
If they’re „pro“ and can’t burn the tree then they’re also not ready for that area. My point still stands
It’s giving wax again like before 
Lags can certainly be inherent to devices huh? They way your device processes the game can cause it to glitch out compared to another device. I use an iPad Pro and have never experience the lag you are talking about. You already mentioned that it’s not your “fast internet” so what else would it be?
graveyard tree isn't meant to be easy and it's not required to burn ever
they can't stress this enough, but the glitch is not something they intended, just like any other glitch, but what I think mostly stirred the devs is that this method as a result defeats the purpose of the krill, he's supposed to harm you if he sees you
let's take it as a fact that not everyone as the same skills and wits as others
burning the tree might be easy for the others but it might be a different story for some
I suggest that if they can't handle it then they shouldn't push themselves atleast or, as a friend, cheer them up and help them
we don't need exploits to conquer a challenge, if it doesn't then it's certainly a bug
?? why are you undermining people’s emotions? The first friend i experienced this with was a Japanese friend and they weren’t a child either. i know it’s a “you problem”, i already said that. Why would you say that knowing that there could be someone lurking in the chat that had the same problem?
Anxiety about getting spotted while having limited motion of burning plants and getting the liberty to hide while flying when you get spotted by the same krill when you're in that area are a bit different.
But u feel like a boss when u did so whats the trade off here
/j
krills have been patched right?
Wait if all tricks are patched does that mean the fall down trick too?
You can still get a total of 19 candles without the big plant on graveyard
Plus my final point, you can hide behind the plant core in the graveyard plant btw. So you can keep your candle up while hiding by the plant core to prevent the branches from regrowing. It's not that hard.
how are we supposed to differentiate who we can take to wasteland or not then? not all people talk english nor talk even
graveyard 🌲 you risk it to get the biscuit 😁
Honestly, if I know we can't burn it, I'll just encourage them to go to Polluted Geyser. Problem solved plus we get more wax without doing much.
Ikr! But a lot of people don’t even know about the geyser giving wax or it’s timing 
But 20 sounds nicer

You’re being way too emotional right now….. if something upsets you in real life you gather yourself and move on. You basically described someone having a temper tantrum for not burning the tree and getting frustrated with it???? And you literally sound the same whilst trying to argue your point.
1:drains your light as krills keep looking for you for a bit
2: if you move a bit and her spotted 3 times it's an immediate hit with nowhere to hide
krills are supposed to be the #1 danger to sky and should harm you if you fail to hide, trick defeats the purpose of that
- Don't move just go behind the core and stay still 2. your friend can honk or bring a recharging prop. 3. Honk before hand to flip the crabs.
Yeah, that's the only thing 😔 and ngl, I thought it will only stay during Days of Nature Event, luckily it stayed
You can take the geyser's wax as an alternative
if your light is draining, we could always place a fire pot by the core
or a friend's deep honk can help with that
i’m not being way too emotional, it doesn’t upset me that i can’t burn the plant. And i know how to move on as well. I thought we were allowed to share experiences of ourselves and friends. That’s what i did and you called my friend’s experience “a new low” i don’t think i’m overreacting or anything. You don’t know people’s mental health or life situations, and the way you talked about it feels like you’e trying to degrade her problem
Yess.I’m so glad the 2 visits limit has been lifted 
Torch, ftw
and the game isn’t supposed to promote grinding but yet it does
Friendship started with gw tree

✨now geyser is my friend✨

We usually don't receive wax at and/or after the 4th visit but it's still enough to gain 5-10 candles, give or take.
All the darkness trees are meant to be done coordinately. Means there's teamwork and communication involve between players.
True that 
with the patch we’ll need more friends than we needed before though
wait, is that 10 candles just from 4 geyser visits and nothing else? that's actually quite a chunk 
are we on the "cut down the tree!!" channel like during days of bloom testing again?
without glitches graveyard tree is a test of skill, a fun challenge you can learn with a larger group - there's never an absolute need to burn it, you can get the same amount of wax anywhere else
they way you come to the person is a little to harsh too
people will rage or throw a tantrum if something goes wrong, and in this case, it was a team effort and that person caused the failure, more pressure
No we just need two. Two is definitely the minimum and enough to burn all the trees in the game.
just add an axe prop so we can just cut down those trees
problem solved
Its about to be christmas again
What does mental health and life experience have to do with burning the tree in graveyard is my point? Again if it causes you more grief than is acceptable if it MAKES YOU CRY, it’s time to just move on. You’re argument is that home tricks help people burn the plant, there are a copious amount of other areas you can move on to to farm the same amount of wax you might have missed from the tree. I doubt anyone is still farming every single piece of wax from all realms and even so it’s time to work together WITHOUT the tricks if you really need that wax
it was before the patches, have you ever tried to burn the tree with someone that doesn’t know how to hife from krills? In my experience It’ll at least need 4p3 people
but why do we need an axe when our sky kids literally have fire? 
a flamethrower
Yeah. That part maybe a bit of an exaggeration but its enough to get 5-10 candles
I used to get 13 candles by just visiting the geyser before they had put a cap on it.Would run 3 maps after that and I would hit 20 candles.
Oh spearmonkey is still here 
Yes , i burnt it with a moth and we did well. 
it's not that deep homie
Or like maybe they could adjust the krills’ paths so they don’t beat us up twice in a row
this is getting more personal than about Sky, I suggest either of you to take a break and get a glass of water
Ah the fun we could have with that burns down entirety of home oops
We need a flamethrower
Check how they burn the tree in forest temple and decide accordingly. I don’t see the problem
plant burning spell, plants burn faster for 10 mins 
she used to burn plants with her friends and failed to do so, she felt like she was being a nuisance to her friends all the time. And i don’t understand why i need to expose her medical information and life story for you to understand why you shouldn’t call someone crying about something that upsets them “a new low”
#beta-screenshots-videos message Here's a video to show you can hide behind the plant core, if the krills are in the opposite direction them move to the opposite direction.
meanwhile gw ubers: time to go big brain
forest doesn’t have krills 
I exposed it? You brought it up to back up your point? You’re being ridiculous. Have a nice day!
one of them has to be pro burner tho
we grind for the things we want
if we get everything then and there, I don't think you'll see any players around in the realms if you take away the economy
plus getting everything would render people without goal
I can say we grind because we we want rewards and earn the cosmetics, even if they are only cosmetics
gw ubers at graveyard tree: I pretend not to see it 🏃
i am not saying you exposed it? you asked what does mental health have to do with this, and i explained whqt it had to do with it and how it might’ve affected someone.
I mean , it's still do-able , the one i did was rushed , you can actually wait for the 2nd krill to pass by and have like a 30 second windowframe to burn one branch.
It ain't much of an issue ngl, the only problem is the tree where you have limited motion and once you go to a hiding spot or recharge spot the tree grows way too fast compared to the time required to get back, but if you head there with 3 good enough with plants peeps right after krills have crossed that area, or 4 peeps cuz one side has a smaller branch which needs to be hopped on to reach, it's a very easy and quick thing to do

plus the TS literally comes and sells items that should've been part if IAPs, of course they wouldn't be cheap
i said that because if my memory is correct Jenova Chen intended this game to be against grinding, because he doesn’t like grindy games
I am in this sentence👀
Ikr but sadly it’s not so much fun for others.
That’s the whole point. 🤦♂️
You described other players just standing in the water and waiting for the tree to be burned. Therefore the logical thing to do is to take them to the forest temple, see how good they are at burning that specific tree and then decide accordingly.
I still fail to see the problem in not taking players to an area they aren’t ready for.
It’s doable but it’s not an option for most people
Sorry i misread. If the game is griefing you that much it’s time to move on. You don’t need to expose their medical information but you did it to make your point. If the tree is your only argument as to why the home tricks should stay, it’s invalid.
Ooh interesting bit since the game play is the polar opposite
if it's someone who doesn't know how to burn the plant and I'm not able to communicate with them, or isn't willing, then no I ain't gonna set that tree on fire
Graveyard challenge isn't meant to cater everybody. It's a skill we can all learn and develop overtime. I didint became a pro plant burner 1 day into sky, it took my quite a while to adjust too. 
jenova never said that? the game isn't a protest lol
I haven't burned that plant in 4 months...
My candle supply in beta and live does me just fine...
I’d better suggest to take more people
Of course ! You are free to take an entire server on a gw run, plus it's fun and chaotic 
how are you deciding my opinion is invalid? Again, the problem isn’t with me, but the people i uber with
In the year I've played this, I've only ever burned the tree once, and that's fine with me. It just felt wrong to use exploits to do it
Ok but I think there should be a lot more wax in Wasteland, like 400 more
so when i want to take someone new to cr wasteland i should cr forest before to see if they are ready, seems very cool
Because the tree is only one minuscule aspect of the game that can simply be avoided in the game. There are more realms and areas to farm if you see it being too much of a hassle to burn
Maybe one more large plant like that in Ark area where the big empty space is... 
I've burned the tree like 4 times, that when there were tricks, and the last time was when the shop trick was out, I just didn't care and fed krills some 
they get
we get wax, fair trade
A "practice plant" if you will
there are a lot of people who collect every wax, and there was no reason to patch every trick. home trick was patched and that’s okay but why patch all?
no not ark please, it takes 50 years to even get there. 
Oh god, yes, Ark is really forgotten by most skykids
Find more friends in sky to help you on the graveyard, its a social game after all.
I leared how to properly burn plants in battlefield and forest temple
wait im reading the updates, which "gap" in eden?
Because they're exploits and bugs that hamper the original intention of some game mechanics?
Ark Star pin, when? 
to be fair, it kinda makes narrative sense that there's not a whole lot to find in a "wasteland"...though i agree that kinda angle doesn't really make it too fun a level to run 
very easy thing to do!
Because it was never intended for players to use tricks to succeed in the game, it requires experience and skill to burn the tree. Time to figure it out…
lmao Forgotten Ark
The gap of death on the first part I guess
We don't have enchantment themed STAR pins yet
tgc please?
I kid you not, that there's no pun intended there 😂
the original intention of the game doesn’t matter in most cases like grinding but matter when it comes to a small trick that’s used to make things easier?
What a soulmate buff?
soooooo patch the bugs but not this one situation again
laughs in skipping ark all the time
they should’ve thought of fixing it earlier then
I think they have a priority list
Next wave, if it's in order will be gw after this anniversary one so yep I'm expecting them to drop
Poor excuse, it was probably at a low priority level that they finally got around to fixing
they let the tricks live and let people get used to working with them, then suddenly patch them, i don’t think it’s a good way to go with it
Small trick? It literally negates the only "true threat" in Sky outside of Eden... That's way more than a small trick.
We need skip boat cutscene
on the first phase of eden with the flying rocks? that annoying gap where almost everyone gets stuck on?
Yup
if it’s a low priority i think other variants of the tricks should be left so that people that care about them can still use them
imagine if the widened the gap even more

OK, just now, on Live, I got 6-7 candles just by going to Geyser plus collecting Sanctuary Wax.
That's WAY more than enough than the Graveyard Tree Wax gives
While this is a relaxing and social game, it does also tell a story. It's a story about life and death, and having that sense of death and danger are essential to sky.
if it’s more than a small trick then why was it low priority, they don’t fix other bugs anyway they should’ve just fixed it earlier
then there would be no sense for them patching the tricks if they don't patch em all
that makes perfect sense now lol
i once did a run and found, like, 4 people stuck there. it looked so painful xD
Whether you care about them or not doesn’t matter. The home tricks do not fit with sky, which is why it’s been patched in the first place?
I thought it was not so easily patchable with the old UI, and a new UI was introduced now. Maybe I remember incorrectly
no, but if it wasn’t a “small trick”then it shouldn’t have been low priority
“they should've just fixed it earlier”
"very easy thing to do!”
if they have a fix on a bug then they would roll it out, if they haven't then thats what we're seeing
yea just do geyser regularly and u can even not touch wasteland at all
Idk about the wax comparison but it depends on chevrons iirc the way to sanctuary+islands itself give around 4/5 candles with 3 chevs, hefty
yes! strongly agree.
“first place” is a year later after everyone got used to them. even then i’m not sad about the home trick. home trick was known by everyone but in my experience there are lots of people that don’t know the shop trick.
Carry literally broke every scene transition for over a year. That's a big bug. Some bugs take time to find a fix. This one was also possibly taking a long time to fix completely.
can someone explain to me when does the geyser give wax 
Why let the tree exist when lots or even most can’t burn it without exploits :(
this doesn’t explain my question if i’m reading and understanding correctly
It's just a game. Why is it getting so spicy? ;-;
Like... Just let people decide how they're going to play. It's their own experience that they are ruining/improving anyways.
If they want Sky Gear: Solid Moth, let them have it. If they want Sky Children of Exploits. Let them have it. As long as they are not harassing/prejudicing anyone or trying to break the paywall, it doesn't matter if they're following the "original intention of the game" or not because it won't affect anyone else's experience at all and therefore there's no need to argue THAT much.
For the patch, everyone can just send their opinions to TGC and let them do their thing or not. No need to create a war around it
Now let's all hug each other ;-;:heart:
Every two hours, starting from reset, at XX:05 to XX:15.
what difference does it make if its a small trick or not, they ought to patch it then its here, maybe they didn't have much time to figure out how to fix them then
bruh i think tgc wants all 8 players to be working on it at this point kek
and they were criticized for not fixing it if i remember correctly, so why can’t we say they were wrong for not fixing it earlier if it’s an exploit that makes the game that worse
I dunno either, since I don't really count wax, but I always go to Geyser at reset time after checking what are the Daily Quests are then hop off, do my irl stuff, then log back in when it's time to erupt again.
Please see my previous message that Azaura linked 
I can DM you time stamps, if you want?
yes pls to me .. 🙂
Remember to take a breather beta chat.
It's healthy to discuss as long as we don't start name calling and insulting.
that just explains why it was hard to prevent the bug, i think sky should moderate the youtube content more. as it tends to promote “bugs that exploit the game and make it worse”
I suggest you ask the devs directly when they pop in to chat
we don't know the workings of TGC internally
or “a new low” 
they said it was hard with the earlier IU, and now that it’s changed it’s easier to patch it
someone already answered me, but thanks 
There you go then
I’m not sure how TGC would be able to moderate youtubers. They can’t demand from them how to do their content
then there's your answer
I stand by that statement, I’ll say it again with my chest! There’s no need to cry over a digital game. Just saying
they can take down videos like how they take down hacked content
@real rampart Calm down bro, it literally looks like you just came here to argue with players who literally only want to discuss Beta-related things peacefully and not talk about why a "small trick" is being patched/was patched or not; if you really want to criticize it then just go to one of the feedback channels and give your opinion to the devs, but don't start a discussion about something that doesn't matter that much when there's a lot more to talk about that is more interesting
Idk, I think that’s a bit much when they didn’t do anything bad. Using bugs isn’t against the ToS as hacks are
I don;t think they can because it doesn't break their given ToS to make content on the game about bugs.
Like the new forest temple roof texture!
There are so many bugs that seriously affect the game experience, such as black screen, but they don't fix them. On the contrary, to fix these unnecessary bugs and increase the difficulty of the game, I really don't understand. In this case, just delete the big flowers in the four Dragon chart. No one wants to burn them anyway
there’s no need to cry most of the time, and people still cry. I think you should think about this one. You can still argue that the bug should be fixed without calling people’s experiences “a new lowl
My problem with this thing is - the krills are buggy as hecc and sometimes see you behind walls..If you lose wings that way, who is responsible given there is no other mechanic to dodge the attack? If you are making things the way they were supposed to be, focus on important bugs first instead of harmless things.
maybe you guys should require a sign that says “this is an exploit and defeats the purpose of the game” before the video starts so people don’t get annoyed when they get patched months later
we can't say "they don't fix them"
bug fixing is not easy and if they already have a fix for them then they'd be applying it already on a build
That's on the content creator, nothing we can do for that.
I’m not sure what you mean by “you guys”? I’m neither TGC staff nor a youtuber
Well I would say some people are more sensitive than others and maybe you can’t relate to that or never dealt with those people. They do exist tho and just saying “no need to cry over digital game” wont fix it that easily.
Also saw one coming from the ground to kill me 
how abt devs change umbrellas so that krills bounce off when they come in contact with one 
I think it’s just better to adjust the krills’ paths in graveyard so the bugs such as targeting through supposed hiding places and also make the tree just tad bit easier to burn with less experienced players
Using bugs to gain an unfair advantage technically is exploiting which is against the TOS. It could be argued using a "small trick" to negate the only damage your character could take outside of Eden is an exploit and technically breaks TOS.
(rain/dark water and crabs aside, since those don't take your stars unless you afk in a field of crabs or in the water.)
It's not their fault if it gets patched. People upload videos with glitches so people can also enjoy them BEFORE they get patched (if they even get patched in the future), just as some also share OOBs. If they really have to warn everyone, then where is common sense? It's a glitch! Of course it's gonna get patched one day! That's just what you should know already, not what someone else has to tell you!
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
I don’t need to think about this one sorry, fair enough if you’re going through something and your frustration has peaked whilst playing the game. You play a game to get rid of that stress, why go to gw of all places to release stress?
That’s actually a good point 
that would be cool but we're not meant to have any defense against them cus guarding is also a form of combat
They have multiple devs doing and fixing different things. It's not like the whole team was focuing on fixing the krill tricks, it's just so the devs in charge of investigating the issue found a solution to it.
i did give feedback, and if i remember correctly i wasn’t the one starting this conversation. most of the time this chat stops the argument of other party instantly. and i don’t like seeing that happen as it feels like everytime you have a problem with an update your emotions about the game don’t matter even though they appear as if they do
I'm just going to assume they weren't aware of what caused the Krill to suddenly stop targeting you whenever you decided to go home. After bringing the new interface it was partially fixed, and this resulted in a "breakthrough" which was followed by other tricks also getting patched.
Bugs are bugs people, and this one in particular was never guaranteed to stay in the game particularly because it rendered the most dangerous creature in the game "safe" unless you deliberately decided to jump in front of them, or didn't know about any of those tricks.
I place the blame on both parties - I think TGC should've been quicker on identifying solutions to the Krill tricks and players should've kept in mind that bugs are meant to be fixed.
i know, i was just joking 
Where is the lantern? Is it not available in shop?
I ate it 
Yeah
I always thought home trick was intentional, I just thought they wanted skids to safely go home without danger like “Aight adios”
no skybot, spit it out
But if a discussion starts, don't expect people to always stop it. You keep discussing about it as if you were obsessed to just get answers from people that agree with you, which obviously will get obnoxious. Think about how not only other people should stop it, but also you.
Aside from skybot , please see #beta-known-issues 
Please stop using “you”, i don’t know if you mean “you” as in me and it’s best to avoid confusing people.
They get of their stress by playing with their friends and collecting candles. The Japanese friends i know usually cr all places, and she needed to help them but she couldn’t. in the end she felt like a nuisance. that’s the story and i don’t think it’d respectful to call it “a new low”
I think we need some sort of krill cape that makes them think we are one of them 
LePetitBot, you've been eating a lot lately 
If he keeps eating, he might not longer be petit
I will stop it when my experiences and ideas aren’t called “invalid” and experiences of my friends aren’t “a new low”
I feel like their inventory where they store the items they ate could probably fill the entire Pacific Ocean. 
Y'all fighting about krill trick? Is it that serious to have such long discussions 🥴🥴
a spell that disguises us as crabs, krills wouldn't attempt krilling rocks now, wouldn't they 
watch the cape be as expensive as the tier 2 black and white capes would 
LeChonkyBot
Can you eat away my sadness too 😔
the crabs actually can get flipped by krill charges from what i remember 
“You” was used as a blanket statement, sorry if you misunderstood that was not my intention. It’s already been mentioned that candle running all areas is not mentally healthy or good for players well being which is why the new cr system was introduced in the first place! AGAIN if a game is stressing you out, best to rethink why you’re playing in the first place or change your farming process up.
a cape having actually actually gameplay effects? impossible
/j
Shock Culture towards the krill tricks patch. The *argument is bound to happen someday www
i didn’t intend it to be as much of a harsh argument as it is now, i was just giving my opinion. And maybe because of the other situations that happened in this channel is what makes people react that harshly to negative opinions but i still don’t think i was the one who caused it
If there's many people giving the same answer to you, don't expect a new answer. Nothing will change at the end. Just accept what you got from a discussion and let them be calm again, just as you should calm down as well.
It's been around for long enough that the players attached themselves to it. TGC removed it late enough to cause some strong reactions, and it was expected
999 hearts should make it
Krill trick: I am... Inevitable
isn't that just the invisible cape HAHAH
I think it became more personal 
I know it isn’t mentally healthy or good for players and i know they are trying to change it, however i don’t think it’s nice to patch tricks that help the situation until the grinding part of the game is wholly fixed.
And i can’t tell a large group of people to just stop CR, 1 it’s not my place to say 2. i don’t think i can communicate it properly due to language barriers
Please don't CR every single realm in one go. For health sake
at least krills don't do ranged attacks and throw crabs at us mid-air 
I just went to get forest and valley cr today and logged off. Good enough for me! 
Krills but they’re now Kirby bosses and tp everywhere 😳
Can you imagine a crab just being thrown at your head by a krill? Terrifying and funny at the same time
Uninstalling Sky...
/Like, sure !
Cr every realm if you want to, but take breaks every now and then 
I just finished running every realms except wasteland, but with breaks inbetween
And probably a lot of snacking, but I managed to finish. Feels good ^^
Yall too spoiled. we'd lose wl when we hit a wall while sliding in valley and i dont think we complained much. A krill here and there isnt so bad.
Imagine having a crab rain 
i’m calm. why would i accept those responses when they are rude and shouldn’t be responses that we see in this server considering even making jokes about not liking a certain spirit is not allowed
i support the bug fixing bt it should have been done after fixing the krills first. sometimes they come outta ground and steal ur light or see u behind obstacles. if u are not fixing that, why fix the only thing that protects u from something unfair?
You shouldn’t feel obliged to say anything. The candle system is meant to explain it for you but i guess the urge to get every last piece of wax is strong in some players
I miss going bald in Valley www
sooo since some (and i mean alot) of peep might skip wasteland during cr-
yall wanna chill in the geyser in sanctuary instead for waxs?
Gonna dump a personal opinion cause I saw someone saying that Krill is meant to be a concept of “problem” you have in life. If krill is a problem and that your solution is just to hide from your problem, it’s not exactly a good message. Or if krill is a life problem and your solution is to just literally face it till it takes away your life (in Sky ofc you can be reborn), that’s just saying another not-so-positive message. So in addition to this useless rant, I’m tryna take a positive way, hope they’re developing something as a solution/aid to yourself so you can “face” the problem krill. Cause hiding from your problem/danger/death isn’t really catchy. ||ignore me||
Yeah!! And it was fun ok!! "Oops i lost a wing" like comon
But why should you stress other people to just change their opinion or give you another answer at all? By continuing you don't get what you get, you only make them more stressed over you, which is not gonna help at all.
Or log off for the day because we get too busy chattin and take too long to complete a prairie-valley+vault Cr 🕺💃🕺
I guess most of players that grind so much wants to get everything from events, ts and constellations
some of these items might be limited but we shouldn't need to get everything, that causes that absurd amount of candle prices in total
constellations can wait, TS can come back, we should at least take a breather, 15 candles a day is pretty much enough for everything iirc, my candle count is pretty much sitting comfortably at 400+ and I manage to get the things I want in live
Personally, I don't want to use geysers to replace the Wasteland wax because of how the geysers are 2 hours apart from each other -- I like clearing my run for the day in as few hours of the day as possible 
I know i shouldn’t feel obligated to say anything. And I shared the experiences of my friends because we’re allowed to share that much and i thought it would bring a new perspective. I wasn’t very thrilled when it was called “a new low”
They are currently investigating that. It's stated in live patch notes that the krills shouldnt be coming out of the ground.
I completely understand the frustration, for 3 months tea set prop is also broken, and I;ve been waiting for a fix, ktjn updated that the issue is actually more complicated than we think it is , hence the long fix. It may apply to the krills as well.
/Are the krills presented as problems, or obstacles ?
From my perspective, life story-wise, the krills are negative emotions that I have to avoid 
I’m asking for respect and i think it’s a fair ask.
Respect doesn't come by still arguing and making people tired of it.
arguing can be respectful
especially in this server
Whoa !, Hold the breaks
Arguments ≠ Discussion
Yet the argument was obviously making people tired of it
sorry for that, sometimes they are used as the same thing
Totally understandable, but sadly I don't think adding a method of avoiding your problem is still a benefit, and it would be useless to try to destroy the krill (remove your problem). I like to think that it's the struggles we face within that stage in our lives and we need to find the ability to move on past it to better things (like vault)
It is a new low… sky’s intention was never meant to make it’s players stressed or agitated in specific situations for the most part it’s meant to be an easy breezy game. If a game does manage to do that to you, it’s the players responsibility to remove themselves from the situation
I just have one question, isn't having a krill trick connotes that you're facing your problem by "cheating"?
my answer to this is "Friends"
they might not solve each and every problem and obstacle that comes about, but they certainly help overcoming them
the problem might be there but having friends will help you against then again and again
and it is also making me tired of it. i don’t know why it’s unfair of me to ask that my opinions aren’t called “unvalid” because the other party has a different opinion and why my friend’s experience is “a new low” because they never experienced a mental-state like that
I got hungry watching this chat 
Can't believe the krills are giving chat some sort of irl crisis/lighthearted
Would krill dodging work?
Bring 2-3 friends, one who can krill dodge lures krill away and dodges them while the rest of the group burns the tree
I mean you're a banana you could probably eat yourself. 
and they could remove them from that situation with the krill trick, that’s all i was saying. you don’t need to say things like that about people’s experiences to communicate your opinions
skykids can do that weird flip with their backs while flying, why is it wrong for krills to do it too

imagine seeing the krill flipping
Absolutely! You could have one or two people acting as krill bait and keep jumping out and hiding behind rocks while the other two burn the plant. Optimal win win
Oh gosh imagine hearing cracks whilst flying 😖
Hello #beta-discussion i think i have plan come back became beta tester for now on!
can't wait find new bugs to report 
I’m not saying adding a method, I’m hoping that they might develop something, not method like tricks etc, something to aid so you can solve the problem (you don’t have to destroy the krills either because
some staffs are krills). But thanks for your thoughts.
You have to understand that this server isn't even here to discuss about things for too long. If it goes on, and the ambient becomes obnoxious, of course everyone's answers to you will be or seem rude. This even happens outside this server, and I think you should have seen situations like this already, participating or not. They might have been rude, but you're also pushing the discussion to continue, which isn't good.
The home trick isn’t a constructive way to remove themselves from that situation though? That’s taking advantage and exploiting a bug in the game that was always intended to be fixed. My opinions are the same and i still stand by them.
you think me continuing to discuss is the same as their words?
and you needed none of those words to communicate this idea
i never said your opinion is wrong, i explained my side of it and you acted rude towards it
I can express myself however i like thank you 😘
Honestly 12/10 on the metaphors and analogy. I love that stuff 
The krill trick connotates that we should cheat out of our problems
Or, just let the problem sweep you away, you'll be fine. Both aren't really good
I do like to hope that there could be other ways for the krill to not, y'know, krill us. Maybe stand on something ( light ) and the krills won't approach you at all. Symbolising you can solve the problem with a tiny solution
i thought this server had rules and we couldn’t express ourselves by being rude to others.
I dub thee "Krill Bait"
Krill bait, HU HA HA!
Pushing a situation to continue can become as stressful as someone's words. If you don't believe that, just look at many's reactions. And I can tell by experience that sometimes a situation being pushed is even worse and tiring than anything else.
Yup. Which is why I said about hoping for something that doesn’t require cheating. (Sorry that you might missed my point in that personal opinion of mine.) 
do you think i am having fun with this conversation? all i asked was respect towards the experiences i told about and my side of the reactions i had about the update
It wasn’t rude…i took offence to your argument because you brought your friends mental health into it which was spurred on by the game which further validated my point
Please don't argue 
Discussion is okay, but that's too far 
why would you take offense to that? and yes you were rude. if you were offended because you care so much about mental health then you shouldn’t be calling people’s experiences “a new low”
oh boy
Guys plz calm down 
about that metaphor where krills are life's problems,
my answer is "Friends" by the power of friendship
no really, friends help us conquer those obstacles even if its better to overcome them by ourselves
its never a bad thing to get a helping hand during your time of need
everything would’ve been fine if mods came and said if we’re allowed to call other’s experiences “a new low” and other’s opinions “invalid” yet they don’ respond even though i tried to contact
You guys still arguing?
I’ll cut it off now cause other people are getting frustrated and i dont want to cause any more turmoil @real rampart you can dm me if you’d like to continue this discussion, if not have a great day
But all you have to understand is that its not gonna happen! And this server doesn't have that many adults or they might be but very young, dear lord, not everyone is mature enough to handle every single situation, not everyone is gonna handle an stressful situation if all they want is to have a good discussion about something else that can't come to stress others. This is the Sky server, the community mostly wants to be calm, not to discuss about something with someone else for god knows how long.
The graveyard plant is the true test of friendship... The exploits to nullify krill damage really kills that test. Forgiveness for a mistake and losing a few stars is the best feeling. 
what i’m saying is our discussion still could’ve been calm like the other discussion i’ve partaken in. Why can this server bring respect to even inanimate spirits but not me and my friends
I think they're arguing not because of the bug but because someone got insulted so I think its a personal argument right there,. discussion were you at 
Please note Ktjn reminded us not to speak on behalf others.
have a great day too. i’ll dm you later considering you’d be more calm. i hope you understand it isn’t a good way to express your opinions by downgrading other’s by then. Take care!
I see how you feel your friends feelings where invalidated. It is not a new low.
So on that note I think it deserves some compassion. I do not agree with leaving "the dodge the krill trick" alone as it was never intended to exist, but a mere byproduct. This was never a secret on the official channels.
A true test of trust if you go at it with strangers
i think Ktjn also said we can talk about a few of our friends’ experiences
I can't go to wasteland. The game crash
I remember losing it and feeling bad for the whole run just because I got my friend krilled
They only lost one star
One star-
Tib, you're the real MVP, especially in #questions-and-help , but for the life of me I cannot figure out your pfp 
Ya its not about the bug anymore
thank you! i wasn’t saying that it should’ve never been fixed, i was saying how it helped people and why it’d be better if it stayed until the grinding problem was fixed wholly
This has been going on for an hour. All of you should go get a glass of water and relax. Games can cause strong reactions, but this doesn't mean you are allowed to make immature remarks on those reactions.
same 
I hadn’t ghostwrite this but this is what I feel almost all the time when a friend did lose and even if they say ‘it’s okay’. (You just can’t help but to feel bad when you can’t help them.) 
I remember a few months back I got very enraged when I got krilled since I lost just enough to lose my 11th wedge
Now I still have 3 missing children I gave up finding ✌️
curious question: is wasteland an underground kingdom?
krill tricks we're never meant to exist, it's never too late

"You there! Wanna burn this tree together and possibly lose all our wings? I won't take it personally since I don't know you."
"Yeah, sure"
Prairie social and office
Now I just go "awe, rip" and think nothing of my friends getting krilled. Accepting the "it's okay" alas-
Some of us believe it is a fallen kingdom, one that used to float in the sky but then plummeted
Same tho
Your health is infinitely more important than a bug in a game, y'all
don't forget to take care of yourselves
aha .. i thought so ..
there was a time when I couldn't do the home trick quick enough, but we still manage to burn the plant
during I was holding the plant I chatted "burn plant now, I'll cry later" since I was like 150 wl at that time
The best thing to do to overcome krill fear is putting down some rainbows and swings in the middle of wasteland with friends and admire the prettiness off the exploding shiny wings.
But yep i was always more worried of friends losing wings than me losing wings. Luckily most of my friends are totally ok with it if it happens accidentally.
I understand, but thats just another issue. I hope your friend is okay and I hope they will master the GW in their own time.
The prob is, im bored searching wls later. That makes me angry about me xd
seeing Isle had tents and grasses before, we could say golden wasteland used to be bountiful too
I never go searching for my lost WL’s.Last to last week I lost 10 WL’s while burning the tree
It’ll be too tiring to go to each WL location 
I have to run wasteland alone now because both of my best friends are too terrified of the Krill. Oh well.
-E⭐
Me : I care about every single WL, I will apologise profusely and panic while getting the stars back
Brain : Except yours
Me : Except mines ^^)
it was related to this one so i thought it was appropriate to mention, i didn’t think it’d cause such a ruckus since i was fine with the other discussions i had
Exactly my point
Awww nooo the umbrella is small now

Wait....my umbrella isn't small.
-E⭐
size appropriate for chibis 
Mine isn't either
WHAT (;´༎ຶٹ༎ຶ`)
Bottomline: I just have to sacrifice 3-4 wings just to get the graveyard tree wax. All good. 
I don't think anyone intended it too, but it's okay now. You where welcome to discuss further via DM I believe.
You can look for people here #looking-for-group-live
#beta-looking-for-group to help you burn those big boy
yep!! thank you
Daily Quest: Today Quest: High-five with a friend
My Constellation Friends: offline
Me: cries
LOL i thought you meant chibi size, it was only scaled down a little i believe
Time for a trip to the treehouse to visit Assembly kid uwu
You can high five the assembly quest giver
Assembly QG : over here !
Oh…
looks at Assembly quest giver: Eyyyyyyy
realizes I crash in Treehouse: 
I can highfive if needed

Btw what is the soulmate buff?
is it still called a high five when sky kids don't have distinct fingers? 
star pin effect
Soulmate is a star pin
Idk
it very small to my view
the chibi umbrella is so cute aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
wrong reply
high two? 
High V
Lowkey sounds like an energy drink brand
5

That's the cliffs of Dover

All this time i thought it was indoor picture
when beta discussion is kalm
You remember the bird statues from Light Awaits?
The home statues eg. In forest and waste?
There are shrines that take you home in every realm except Isle
I think those shrines could be replaced with the bird statues
I have posted pic about new size of umbrella so you guys can take a look
Is there a bird statue in wasteland? I've never spotted that one
it's in Battlefield
Let me see if I can get a screenshot of it. I hope my game doesn't crash
Huh. You learn something new every day!
the status I've seen are in battlefield and forest
nevermind, game crashed
Does the phone screenshot crash you too? Or just the in game screenshot?
Is the size of the parasol just a bug?
Just in game crashes me on android, normal phone screenshot isn’t. And even in game isn’t crash me all the time. Sometimes i got 1 without a crash
i couldn't even go to battlefield, jumping down the vortex crashed my game
I think so. They were resizing some of the other props so I assume umbrella got affected.
Here's an idea: how about instead of fixing small glitches that don't effect the game as much they fix the constant game crashs and freezes like every good developer does .aye?
I went afk and now I have one light
I do hope the parasol becomes.. lorge. Again.
I'll buy it if it does..
Ask a friend to go to another area of waste so you can join if u really want to go there.
Theres nothing in beta updates about it so its possible
I read "here's an idea” as “here's an idiot” and I was trying to understand what was going on
I have none
i think it’s better to go to #beta-feedback
Lmao
... It would be greatly appreciated if they stopped the world from basically. Dying..in lower end samsung devices.
Idk but it feels like you're implying that tgc are not "good developers"
That was kind of a jokely intend sorry I can understand why it was bad xd
i think they’re expecting that from TGC developers because they believe TGC developers are good developers
its clearly an issue that they are aware of
we do not know the scope of the causes and scale of the bug itself
that does not mean other smaller bugs loses relevance and shall be ignored
Oh ok, but still, some harmless bugs may affect gameplay more than you know and you shouldn't tell them to fix certain bugs only 
Maybe they were in the process of squishing some harder, smaller bugs when this big one popped up
devs aren't ignoring constant freezes and crashes, identifying the cause and the solution takes time
small glitches were just an easy fix and they did that, doesn't mean they're ignoring the larger ones
I think it’s just the frustration that the game is unplayable on some devices but the update notes contain fixes about invites and krill glitches. Its hard to play on balck screen or constantly crashing game so i kinda get that feeling.
I'm not saying the small bugs should be ignored but when my game freezed 10 times a day I'm kinda frustrated
On beta or live?
They have their priorities and I'm sure that they are working on that glitch too
Some of the visuals are so bugged on certain devices to the point they may be harmful for people with photosensitive epilepsy.
;u; it would be greatly appreciated if they worked to deal with that first..
Game freeze on live but on beta I experience game crashes constantly
I mean, I feel that the Devs are pushing in various patch updates More likely because of the black screen bug www
If the bug has major effect to gameplay, expect a sooner fix
I remember someone saying that there's an epileptic android bug that escaped through live (?) And the Devs had to fix it fast. It was later patched in 24 hours--
Gotcha. Beta is extremely unstable as of now. I hope it doesn't reach live
I doubt such a detrimental bug will last the week
this bug as a whole is quite unique as it happens to certain devices only
It's happening to android Samsung devices, right ?
Oh dear
I'm going to take a guess and say it's the exynos chipset
Specifically slightly older samsungs,
Your A40s, your A51s,
calm down my dear a51, you're not old, they're old
HDHAHSHSHS
I’m aware, i just wrote cause we don’t have any insight of the development process and it can be frustrating to see only small fixes compared to game crashing etc. Not my first ride in beta
plus my crashes improved since the last build only screenshots are avoidable atm.
overheating tho… anyone has that issue too on android?
if they've already gotten a fix for the black screen and crashes they would've added it the update
A51 meet your younger brother, A52 😂
Still. My friend who has a newer S series samsung isn't experiencing the same issues.
Samsung who? I've been using xiaomi for years now. 
I'm a sucker for samsungs.. I'll. Never let them go.
/I had days where my phone would overheat if I try to run sky for a long time
But most of those issues are resolved by changing my charger. It still overheats, but only if I leave the game on for half the night 
Same, tho I play Sky on my Huawei Nova 5T 
I got the ‘ your phone overheated’ messgae 2 times today in eden without being on a charger. I don’t think i ever had that before unless i played with charger in a very hot room, but that was only one case in The past. Also xiaomi here
i only have 1 phone
Yes Ik that but like....first fix the the problem that makes the game unplayable then fix the ones that don't do it as much...?
Wait, such messages are a thing? 
Probably an app
They have multiple devs working on multiple things , the krill glitch fixes may be done by one dev , while another team focuses on the optimization. Just because the krill bugs are fixed doesn't mean they aren't fixing everything else.
Coding is either "oh looks like I mistyped one letter/number. Whoops" or handling a cat who doesn't want to be handled
That's probably a weak metaphor but--
Its the phones own message. Telling phone will restrict gps, nfc, 4g etc. now until it cools back down.
Oh. Does anybody know if they've fixed the bug that stops you from holding hands with multiple people normally? 🥴
Piggy and handhold? Its not fixed
That's me, when I have already prep a good logic flow and started coding then realized later there's some flaws to it and had to recode 70% of my code. Bruh
my old phone used to go all the way up to 45°c, I wonder how hot it would get if I played Sky on it
I feel bad that their team have been trying to fix the teaset bug since may, but it is too complex 
Might I ask what the teaset bug is?
It's best to report overheating issues as it was encouraged in #beta-faq 
Where you can't hold the cup or your sitting posture is different iirc
I just. I really hope none of this slips through to live.
Especially the visual bugs
do you know how much anger it would result in if these bugs made it to live
I can imagine
These kind of uber serious bugs rarely make it out of beta. Never said impossible, but not normally
Not to jinx, but many beta only bugs somehow manage to slither in their way into live so i won’t hold my hopes up too high
live never experienced the Magenta log
and the uber meme LP flight
Mostly only the forgotten bugs slip into live
/Speaking of, I wonder why one of the DoSL cosmetics cost 5 dollars
Okay maybe my expectations were a bit too low, cause I thought we're gonna get another *2$ item 
I planned to after my regular run in beta later today, when i can check out if its eden or the whole game, but thanks tho for the extra reminder.
I was just curious if anyone had similar experience in this build and where/what were they doing when it did.
Oh? I gotta go check it out, were u staying long in eden before it pop up?
At least it's not $20
!reportfaq please delete this message and next time report them 
Unlikely
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
the lantern is already sitting pretty at $20, an accessory priced the same would have some serious stuff in there 
Not really i did it twice cause i messed up the last LP quest, first time on the normal route, second time with rocket and i had less than 50 wings both times so didn’t take too much to die either.
alrighty sorry 
I just got spoiled for the summerlight accessory 
It's not your fault at all dw 
$1 accessory just like orange when 
that orange was such a strange acessory
In our hearts we are all moths 
I want a $1 apple accessory

I suggest avoiding Sky YouTubers and Instagrammers entirely, sometimes they result in more misunderstandings than the devs and can spread fake content
Finally got time to test. And alas, crashes everywhere
time to report
Best stare at beta for the real news

🌱 accessory 
I'm hoping that the 5$ item has reasonable design process towards the value. Like how many shapes are there or smth 
Since, The seashell pin is basically one morph, one item. Same with orange, 1/2$, maybe it has more polygons
did someone say
?
Imagine we get a star accessory for Christmas 
old sky player after any krill tricks are patched: I used to rule the world
man when will we get good head accesssories like dis for free
i mean the tassel and sun hat are great but i want something closer to the orange and days of summer shell, antlers too 
Strange enough, I would actually love and pay for a little sprout accessory
I would pay more if it wiggles when you move
my god it's gonna be a perfect match for the earth day cape
To think that with the sprout i can finally cosplay certain famous youtubers ahem
or assembly green cape
I there a sunflower head item too? I saw a picture but it might have just been photoshopped?
Not only the design progress, if it's adorable I would get it
i think it was hacked as well
Oh damn
Shhh, there is no such thing or it was hacked content (gosh this sunflower thing is spreading misinformation)
/Oh man, if it is....
Watch me run up to the nearest supermarket to top up 
lets just hope summer lights includes free iteems this year 
Lotus message boat spell
I met a hacker online and they're either super proud of what they did or act completely innocent like "I was only doing scripts, I wasn't doing anything illegal at all"
Its usually 50/50
Thing never end
Speaking of, I'm only a small bit off from 5$ on my Google play credit. Awe :(
I once had a unintended argument with sky hackers and they said that hacking is completely fine and fun
Probably pretty obvious but would the only way to avoid losing WL from krills now (if for example you couldn't hide) be to just close sky?
... until ban based on tos
Minimise the app to be precise
That still can work. App minimise not always works on Android
Time to beg the krills for mercy 
You can always minimize the app, turn off internet, and go back on again
You will lose your light, but not your winged lights-
No there is a way
The poor starving krills! Think of the krills! 😂
Aww damn :') but just closing sky and reopening it works right?
I hope not
krills have had enough of skykids pulling out instruments and never playing anything for them 
Moths are enough for their daily meal
Nope, I've seen a few sky insta posts that managed to find more ways to avoid the krill
How the turn tables 
It could work if you're fast enough
DM if you want to know not a glitch
🙂
/Why DM if it's not a glitch ?
Do share it with us 
I have video
Dunno if the scan thingy would still work against krills.
Won’t allow me to post
yeah, if it's not hiding behind a structure, it's still a bug, an unintended way of avoiding them.
You have #beta-screenshots-videos to post
Lol look at all of you trying to figure out other ways to avoid the krills. You’ll lose 1-5 wls at most you’ll be okay
How to avoid krills (100% working)
Hide or run
You just have to fly far enough btw. Krills have limited range
*Hide or fly
Has running ever actually saved you from a krills hug www
Sadly not everyone has the wings to fly far enough
Hi I’m just wondering is days of summer light items actually released yet or ..:0
Imagine doing this and then hitting a wind wall 😂
Soon™
The terrifying thing is that on several occasions I've been hiding and krills have still locked onto me - one has even glitched before and attacked me without a countdown 
Alright thank you! I thought i was bugging
Obviously never happened to me
at least its a spectacular krill attack from below while the wind pushes u upwards. But luckily windwalls arent that close to krill paths most of the time
The 🪣 works
yes, the tunnel prop works, it just doesn't help with other people tho
Go inside the pot
So many beta player in graveyard 
my experience of krills attacking without a countdown is that they've already counted down from another skykid and they seem to have lost sight of that one and somehow found me instead
Yes all the plants are burned 😂 farming is easy in wasteland today
They are finding da way
I go to the high ground and saw wing light rain. So divine
oh my god another crisis?
I'm confused, why would they shrink the umbrella it looked just fine 
it seem like some hacker found out the 5 dollar item
Shame on them for spoiling things. And, you know, hacking
What was that 5$?

Shhhh... Soon
I don't think that's allowed
I Accidentally saw that
totally worth buying that
yk mods can read previous message that been edited 
Oh no the hype got me

I've been spoiled the $5 IAP twice and I'm miserable
Just wait till the day
dont worry
My theory on 5$ item
It's probably a head accessory, considering the other prices for other things
And it has more polygons than the orange/shell. That's why it's not 1/2$-
Same dermelles, same
Unless I can sneak into a supermarket
whatever that item is, i won't be able to buy it
Or it's more cuter or worth the price in some way
My principles forbid me from spending money on a mobile game (aside from this umbrella, that sucker is a need rather than a want)
Ktjn has stated that the $5 IAP is ||cute|| 
Aaaa w...was it name start with a ||B...|| and have ||pink color (imma delete this right a way)||?
Let's not discuss hacked content please
Nope, I'm just watching beta player sparring with krills. So many wing light gone now. 
lotus message boats tho
heya beta testers! its been a while 
school is back, so i gotta cut a little of my beta testing time
telephone dialing noises
Hello ?, Mods ?
This is the Central Intelligence Agency. How did you get this number?
Hrm... Patching Krill tricks is kinda petty and redundant. Sky has millions of other glitches that could be patched and improved (menu glitches, skykids freaking out when sitting, clipping through the world as a chibi—) but the devs always focus on the one thing players enjoy, actually use, and that makes the wastes actually manageable.
It reminds me of how a certain Dev working on a Y//dere game would “patch” certain bugs, but those bugs only affected speedrunners, or were used by players to goof around or keep their gameplay from being tedious. It’s kinda weird— why focus on removing something that players use and enjoy, when you could put that energy towards fixing bugs or making new content? I just don’t get it.
For the umbrella could I ask a question? I was wondering if they made it smaller? If so how much smaller is it?
🤏 ☂️
Because these tricks replaced the actual method to avoid the krills. Players were never meant to use bugs to overcome a problem, and it is never petty nor redundant for developers to polish their games in one way or another.
Almost same as the casual stance spirit's one
its a size that's perfect for chibis
Ah I see thanks everyone for answering! I was wondering why the screen shots looked like the umbrella shrunk! Now I know
Also another thing to keep in mind that identifying the cause of problems takes time. If they've found the cause and the solution to a problem, don't expect them to just stand there and say “Oh, there are a lot of other bugs so this should wait until we fix the other bugs”
ehhh— it’s kinda petty when using glitches is a highly ingrained part of Sky’s community. OOBS, Chibi falls/glitches, Rocket, Bicycle, and spiral— everyone uses glitches, and it’s encoraged in this server and community. i can get wanting to polish, but it’s still undercutting the community sky has.
I can’t click some of the items in my wardrobe, and yet the devs focus on a glitch that stops you from being hurt... i know it takes time to identify, but at the same time, i’d at least thing they’d have a priority...
the devs have always said that we shouldn't keep relying on glitches since they're unintended features in the first place, they're bound to get removed
i don't see how negating damage which is wholeheartly intended is comparable to a speedrun strat for a completely different genre of game that isn't even released yet
the wardrobe thing is a new bug that happened at the same time as the krill tricks patch
also they pretty much have priorities on what to fix
if these tricks are on the low priority list, when are they gonna fix it it's been already a year since home trick came to life
Sometimes I can't even see my friends messages due to a glitch that still hasn't been patched yet TGC wants to focus on one of the least important bugs 😭😭
that wasn’t the point... the point was the behavior of the devs towards a harmless activity.
Forming an attachment to an unintended feature is harmful.
getting krilled is meant to be a harmful activity
it renders the main antagonist of the game useless,
I don't see that as harmless activity
we we're meant to hide not play krills a song
It allows players to ignore a critical game mechanic
Do you ever just wonder, if all codes are easy to fix, and the Devs are more likely to tend to things that were not intended and interfere with the main game ?
"the main antagonist" das a shrimp
Hii
I just wanted to do a bug report. Is @gilded parrot sometimes too tired? Cos i get no more replies 
LePetitBot is busy munching on those things he keeps eating 
Save your reports, skybot is throwing a tantrum. 
Someone forgot to give skybot some cookies and they got angry.
Lol
Welp, managed to get one report in
skybot is hungry again after eating the summer lights iaps
i mean— playing a song is more intuitive, and more fun imo. hiding is broken bc the krill are broken— they’re glitchy messes most of the time. i’ve been seen through rocks. it’s hard to try and rely on the intended feature when the intended feature doesn’t even function correctly
Hey bro
Alrighty thank u 🤣
Hey dude
one time me and a friend were doing a cr and a krill just randomly came through the ground 💀💀
also the taken krill immunity is a side effect of UI changes which has someone handling it by itself it isn't really them taking all their effort into patch krill damage ignoring all other bugs
what
Ngl, when i told my boyfriend the krill patch news he shouted "FINALLY!" 
I almost perished
also didn't we recently got checks on krill behavior
we ought to get ironed out krills
r/thathappened
HELSAJSJSKSJSA
I was also happy that they got patched lmao
Same here
ok 😱
its true that krills tend to glitch out but they have made an announcement that krills not following the laws of physics is a bug
I believe they're planning on patching krills to behave accordingly and skykids to do as well
Me too. I wrote a feedback about the trick last year. 
I'm happy to know that the krill patch is fixed
I can teach more people how to avoid them in air + more reasons not to go to GW for Cr because of how scarce wax is there compared to sanctuary-
I get the feeling next season is gonna be in GW and have krills in the story... 😅
I remember writing feedback with something like....
"When you guys patch the home trick, hope to see the krills get fixed as well www"
But... On sundays all spots have wax 
k but why didn’t they fix the krills first??? They’ve been broken forever— why patch the trick and, and not the reason for the trick? go for the root, then the plant
maybe tgc should patch the dn glitch instead lol
krill as QG when 
rephrasing
krill immunity when opening menus were a side product of the old UI
after being replaced by the newer UI krill immunity was lost
new UI has their own devs and isn't taking the dev time of all devs
others bugs are still handled as usual
I tried to post 2 videos but maybe my file is too big
boy what da hail boy 🐿
you cant post videos here
Ah yes. Season of Eden. Krills as the QG. Probably will be too big and we won't be able to fit in the portal 
HELP ME
/Even with all spots on, I can only finish one chevron, because of how ridiculously far one plant is to another
40 minutes, just for a single realm, for one chevron
I'm resorting to Sanct/lh 
Tiny krill
Is the IAP still missing?
No I mean in #beta-screenshots-videos
You called ? 
Imagine having tiny krills which attack you but only drain ur powers
we can't really tell if they already found a fix to the krill yet
bug fixing isn't simple
the new UI made it possible to easily find out how to patch the krill tricks, can't say the same for krill behavior

???
I responded to this question earlier, sometimes identifying the cause of the issue, and then finding a solution is a process that takes time
That's not very respectful ain't it?
/TGC patch dpeanuts ?
What's that ? 
i dont even know what that is
Yeah why haven’t they fixed it first?
The code for the krills might be more complex than the UI
Who knows www
Not the spaget code oh dear www
@spark lance
this issue has been prevalent for the entire history of the game— i highly doubt it would take two whole years to try and fix it
spaget code
I'll DM u cause the word got censored 
piggyback took an entire year to fix
/Ah, so you're avoiding the filter ?
You might wanna delete it 
so this person is trying to say censored things by bypassing the filter?
yes they are
Nah the message got automatically deleted 
There is a flying trick or skill
it seems to be a network issue or something... you can see something similar when dreams boats go nuts trying to get into the correct position

epic 👍🏾
Keep in mind that this is a family-friendly server 
HELPPP
fine I'll delete it bc I don't wanna get muted for da third time 😋😋😋
You should try coding! I'm sure it's an incredibly easy process that everyone can learn immediately and isn't complex in any way whatsover
ZIPPY PLEADE HELP I'M CRYIGM
and after the next update, it broke again 
I can DM if anyone wants to see the skill
Don't scare them. I'm already in pain for learning coding for 4 years now.
Yep
I suggest you go ask to #questions-and-help
if it's beta related, could you please make it clear
wow it’s so cool how companies are not allowed to be criticized just because people are t good at coding lmao
😋😋😋
I, too, like to make the mods suffer/j
I'm sure you're better than this www
To dodge the krill
Imagine krills are bugged because of a ||typo||
i wanna dodge krill 
just say no to krills, they can't attack you without your consent
May I DM you
Not neccesarily closed from criticism, it's just food for thought
Trust me, I'm also sad that some bugs aren't patched yet and are taking forever to fix for some reason I don't know because I don't know how coding works ;;;
you could always leave a feedback in #beta-feedback
atm, you've seen what most of the beta player's thoughts about the new update are, best take it to devs directly so they get your piece of mind
I think the hardest is to determine what exactly causes that or this behavior
By entering Wasteland you agree to Wasteland's Terms of (krill) Service 
TGC is literally an entire team full of game devs— educated and experienced game devs. yeah— i’m gonna criticize them. coding is hard, but i know how to do it, and i’ve only coded a year. these devs have been devving for more than five years— you’d think they’d be more in top of things.
RT
I believe they should improve their coding skill, yes
Yo this isn't Twitter/lh
Do you have work experience in coding, or is it still educational?
You can always just out fly the krill 
no way
I tried to take a 3-D modelling class in college and the professor revealed that we needed to take coding as a prerequisite even though it wasn't listed, and me just looking at coding in a class where I know nothing about it was so overwhelming. Like music and math, it's a completely different language. Mad respect for those who know how to do it
Yes, In no way that this is Twitter
I could show you some guides to the bird website though ! ^^)
Let me get the link hold on
what a mature response, I'm sure you're an expert in responding with things that make sense
Sorry, I don’t know what DN is. I was mostly asking because coding as part of a team under time constraints and a budget might not be the same thing as doing it as part of education.
in all seriousness tho— does it matter? it’s a company, a game company, and their devs aren’t being it.
Trust me when I say , just because you know code , doesn't mean you know how to apply it in the industry. It's different.
Here you go 
https://twitter.com
i can’t— i can’t believe you fell for this... oh... oh you poor soul...
it's an inappropriate joke abbreviated to circumvent filters
#beta-feedback
if you wanna vent erm, not here I guess
u could always do some in-detail criticism directly to the devs
I’m sorry, I find that slightly offensive to say of a gaming company that produced several games during their 15 year existence.
I remember Ktjn saying something about their blood pressure
ok
this is inappropriate for the channel, or the server. it's not even for #promote-your-sky-content
would you kindly stop
Ratio
It's like conceitedly saying "I know how to cook and I've been cooking for a year now" to "I'm better with a chef that has been awarded with Michelin Star"
context 
No, please, no
I deleted Twitter for a reason
i literally had in depth investigation about cancel culture pls www
ok
ok
why i can't teleport from my friend by the constellation ?
Have both of you updated?
yes
They might be doing a trial or up in eden
What message do you get? Can be an older version of game on the other end, friend in trial/eden/full server, bug etc
you also can't tp to a friend editing a shared space iirc
:/ we have update ad we Are just in the home, we Can't teleport each other
Also some education seemingly has nothing to do with conflicting lines buried in gigabyte of code whereas the internet is full of bug compilation videos from all well known games around the world too. (Ah I see starboy messages were deleted, thank you, mods
)
Might be a full home
/so are we doing a beta chat reaction ban speedrun or-
I dont mind
/hj
@thorn oxide @fallow kestrel please enough with the random reacts we might lose our reacts again
I think it's just two people doing it
don't beg for trolls to stop lmao, they're gonna continue doing that just to get a reaction out of you
we gotta do some warnings before we shoot 
Stop with those emoji reactions already, if you wanna have fun, DM each other those emojis
Was ktjn here after recent update?
Good afternoon!!!!
Afternoon!
Haiiii
Hi boon 
Good afternoon fr--Boon ^^
it’s wednesday...
Hi Boon 
message history indicates she was around here a bit after the latest beta update released, you can backread to see what the conversation was about
evenin
References to inappropriate jokes are not welcome in this server, in case anyone wasn't sure of the rules.
I have self restraint I have self restraint I have...
My dudes
I think Ktjn mostly stays for a bit to clear up confusion about the update logs
/Wait, always ?
Or mostly ? 
Not always but hopefully moving forward it’s consistent
Yeah my bad haha
A real blessing. I don't know that many devs who would do that, much less stay up until one in the morning to converse with it's playerbase
Edited the message just in case
Chat telling Ktjn to sleep will always feel like a fever dream
No
Hey @tropic radish, did you get enough sneep snorp today? 
Hey @gilded parrot, did you get enough sneep snorp today? 
Mostly but they also have personal lives to attend to, other than Sky and this server but I admire them for staying up late (sometimes or even most of the time) just to clear some confusions and whatnot
Uno reverse card did not work. 
Hmm so seems like assembly logo on backpacks is indeed intended
I really appreciate them for doing so, spreading correct info so we can share them with others who might have problems in understanding a newly added feature or a change
Is there anyone successfully use soulmates in Sky pins in beta? Mine shows me “tag not registered or validated”,but it works in live.
I agree it definitely makes a world of difference, and clears things up before they uncontrollably escalate
can you still do the 7th quest eventho you alrdy went to eden before? i forgot to click the quest before going to eden and i alrdy did
I couldnt make any of my newer batch pins work. Same message as yours. Old ones work tho still.
Yeah it shouldn’t make much of a difference how many times you do eden, there will just be less statues to ascend when you go next with the quest enabled
Thanks ~
You can go again for the sake of completing the quest, cos ||you just need to "die" and meet Little Prince at the Orbit.||
Spoiler tagged it in case for those who haven't done it yet and want a surprise 😊
@hasty vessel @faint comet ahhhh thanks btw!
POV : you just did your Eden run a few hours ago and last quest unlocks at reset
I was wondering if anyone here knew when the beta fixes for Eden were going to make it into the regular game. Is there a schedule for when that is supposed to release?
I'm sure TGC has one, but we're not aware of it
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
yeah, since Assembly introduced shared spaces, and props which main purpose is to be used in social spaces have assembly backpack for their back item image, unless they're really special just like fox
Shared spaces*
Oh okie dokie
auto correct 
There's another
its like how meditation shrines are now, 
I don't use auto correct at all, but it's fun to blame my typos on it 
Live is currently on version 0.14.0 and beta is on 0.14.5 so is live 5 builds behind atm?
I can't imagine the length of the patch notes for live hahaj
damn autocorrect did its thing again
shhh, don't rat me out

really tho, misclicked the suggestion box and I didn't see which the word was placed
usually version don't necessary publish in incremental. The next version is likely to be 0.14.5, there's no 0.14.1, .2 etc.
build number is the second one, this is version number
Oh i see thank you
Thinking about the time beta managed to update from x.a.x to x.b.x and android got it earlier than IOS. But everything was broken (unplayable) here and there. magical www
That was the only time Google was wide awake. 
is the summer lantern coming on beta? cause I have updated and it’s not there
It's currently missing. Please see #beta-known-issues 
Oh I only thought the accessory was missing
I tested the lantern last year so it won’t show up
What Android version you’re on? 8.0?
Its write "8.1.0"?
So you are, I noticed this issue is affecting Android version 8
There's no more tricks for krill attacks
atleast for android users

The instrument is pretty hard i-
There's one, avoid wasteland.
Jokes aside, just play safer from now on. For the graveyard plant you can use the core of the plant to hide from krill sightings.
I will not burn tht big plant- i barely hv 150 wls 😂
Wdym?so i can't play the beta version?
I’m not sure honestly 
Well, I can't conduct how you play Sky. There's server merges you can wait about, or look for players who takes the challenge to burn the plant. 
As of now, most Android 8 below are having this black screen issue. Nothing much can be done other than report it and wait for the next build.
That would be a hella meme for sure
....krill san coming to bonk
All of these are still classify as bugs afterall, means they will never last and eventually be fixed.
I down this on iPhone but its have a black screen too
||aaaa i really hope they fix the black screen bug
||
Dunno, but not worrying about your WL is freeing, really. I stopped collecting past 8-9 wedges. Wasteland becomes 100x more enjoyable
Be sure to report it 
How to report bug?
I try to see on both perspectives, although I myself never worry about my WL count too.
im not a beta player so quick q - the krill party hats are yellow in live but blue in beta? is this intentional?
I think they are meant to be blue, just when it hit live it became yellow I assume.
it would make sense, it's TGC blue
I think blue signifies beta so
I miss the beta version;;;;;;;;;-;;;;;;;
Nah, it was yellow in the last build.
so the yellow is a bug? i had assumed it would be blue because its the same as my year one hat which is blue
I can't be sure, maybe they made intended changes, maybe a bug 
apparently its because of the lighting of the level that made it yellow according to ktjn
Oh, I see.
i ask because i saw some beta videos with blue hats and i was confused 
Does Days of Summer have an official date?
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
How many days will the next beta update released after that?
? We have absolutely no idea when beta updates or live updates will happen
Yeppp
Guys GUYS!
nastymold done a video about that...
There is a trick that works
Shame on her. She's just contributing to teaching players how to use exploits to avoid basic game mechanics. Plus one of those people that either intentionally or unintentionally spreads misinformation by posting beta info when it could very well change
Which one?
Hold on...
I will dm
Lmao oki ello caustic btw 
beeeeeeeep yeah!
You got a point 😓
i knew a new krill trick its my secret trick now
Heya
i mean isn't that just a lot of the content creators, they gotta do everything at their disposal to get their view count up
Guys, when will be the days of summer lights event in live?
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
You're right. I could never wrap my head around that with YouTubers and viewer counts 😂
A previous Sky merch pin, when using it little heart particles start coming out while holding hands
I hate Sky content creators for that reason, you're not an insider, the info you're spreading can easily be rendered false by a simple change made by TGC.
aah thx. kinda sounds cute
Clickbait will always happen if there is money to be made. 
Technically every title and thumbnail is clickbait, they're designed to attract viewers
I think you just stop the topic for now. Don't give them Attention and also views. Report any sus content on youtube or other platform via Thathelpbot
It’s unfortunate, it especially upsets me when little texture bugs are passed as new features
I try to make corrections and let them know, but it gets drowned in the sea of comments
Like they're probably going to report on the umbrella being smaller and say 'omg they shrink it as a new feature!! ' like dude, they were working on resizing props and this might be a bug, and also the umbrella doesn't even form right in your hands when it's open. Anything that could be a bug is taken as a feature by content creators
I don’t mind Sky beta YT, but many players outside of beta don’t understand how beta works and think it’s all set in stone. If the creator then announces it as NEW FEATURE, it’s going to create confusion and unrealistic expectations.
But we aren't talking about the title/thumbnail, we're talking about the contents. So many people come here to complain about a change because their favorite Sky content creator didn't tell them that everything in beta is subject to change.
Tbh, even if they put a giant disclaimer on beta, is as seems no one likes to read at all. This applies to #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues .
Humans are quick to assume.
People would rather watch a video and have someone tell them any information rather than reading the beta updates or known issues. Or even read up a few posts on here
I think they don't read those two channels due to the textwalls being massive, short and atttactive text may appeal more to the masses. Save the larger part (the changelogs) for the video itself, and always put a disclaimer, be it in the video/title/thumbnail/description that everything in beta is subject to change.
I'm only going to say this once, but... So it's lazyness?
I think 
Like, another aspect of it could be people who speak another language and don't want to take the time translating posts or walls of information and would rather watch someone in their language tell them, I'm just saying it's not always a reliable system to go about it that way
You can say...yeah? The world is revolving around quick information, words are getting shorter. There are more and more abbreviations made by the day. People rather receive information in a matter of 1-2 words.
I'm getting off beta topic , haha sorry.
I want to give them the benefit of a doubt since I made that mistake at one point, I was locked out of my access at one point due to equipping a missing item, so I went around this channel warning everyone not to buy and equip the item (It was the tier2 capes, if you were wondering.) When in reality the reason I was locked out was because I equipped the item at Orbit
That can also be possible CausticGlass, these texts are long and in translation the actual meaning can be lost.
Can you imagine copying and pasting the entire text into Google translate expecting some good changes, only to read that the Shrimps are negotiating with Tom Cruise that the tea tables are made of potatoes.
Shrimps are negotiating with Tom Cruise
Yo can I be invited to this negotiation?
An extremely good and funny point! 
You're gonna have to ask Whirthun 
Bottom line is that misinformation is really easy to spread over a bunch of methods and mediums, and I just wish people would take it with a grain of salt
Is there any pic of the lotus message boats?
Leaves the crabs in the hands of a trainee crab whisperer and heads off for vacation 🏖️ 
Nope, if you see any on social media platforms that's most likely hacked content. #beta-known-issues
It’s rude to talk about nastymold like she’s not a community member here and doesn’t frequent this channel. It’s also wrong to assume that she has malicious intentions posting videos about beta. She puts in the title and thumbnail that what the video is about it is in beta, and no amount of yelling that beta is subject to change will prevent people from making assumptions as we already see on this discord server. It’s also very clear that none of you have even watched the video, all she did was state that in beta the krill exploits were patched, and then tested to see if it was really true, like any beta tester would do. What she said is stuff that’s already been stated in this channel, people who aren’t beta testers also frequent this channel but would you say that because of that everyone here also spreads misinformation because of other peoples assumptions?
These are very valid points, because we see time and time again how people just run with something they heard from someone who heard it from someone who…etc.
Yes. At the same time it's unavoidable that many users will rush #questions-and-help soon asking about it not understanding the concept and mechanism of beta. Regardless of intentions this is a very good video title and topic to get many views which is a clear goal of most YouTubers.
Sorry, I should point out that my previous comments were more of a general character, as I haven’t watched the video in question.
I used to get a little annoyed when every video would put ❕BETA. SUBJECT TO CHANGE❕ but now I see why they need that in every video with beta content
Well goodness Seraph, I didn't mean to set you off like that. It's true I made that comment before I watched the video and got a bit miffed, and I do apologize for not correctly recognizing the content of the video before making a wild assumption about her posting a video about possible exploits. We have indeed watched the video, and it was not my intention to target her specifically, rather than people in a general sense. You're right on other people's assumptions becoming the basis for misinformation. Mine was as well. I recognize and apologize. Are we not all community members here which fall prey to misinformation and spoiler algorithms?
That was a mature response to a mature post. I understand all parties. I wish all different viewpoints would meet like that
So uhh...anyways. Is piggyback fixed in beta?
Tgc should let us(beta tester) test again this quest after we got the latest updated
Relive this spirit memory from Golden Wasteland
Umm....anyone?
If it's not listed in #beta-announcements , then it's not
Why? I never relied on any trick when the spirit was in season and it worked fine. Also, nothing is stopping you from testing it now. 
Omke
Lololololol there is 2 days left I have not even unlocked all the upgraded emotes
Not that, i want it on dailies, want to see many people suffering 
can't enter eden cuz crash

An agent of chaos I see 
Did many people even do it when it was a daily? 
I did watch the video in question about the krill tricks being patched before making further comments, and my point still stands because this has nothing to do with Nastymold or that video specifically. The usage of "Sky content creators" was deliberate and I wasn't expecting you to gloss over it. Beta players are always encouraged to explain that beta is subject to change, and Sky content creators have a lot of influence on their audiences which would definitely assist in clearing such confusions about what's happening in beta. There are always going to be people who won't listen or stop making assumptions, that's true, but it doesn't mean we should stop trying. People can rely on these content creators for information that they cannot access, and it should be a content creator's responsibility to remind people instead of potentially fueling those misunderstandings.
in an ideal world, everyone sharing beta content would communicate that clearly, and every audience member would understand what that means. unfortunately content won't always be clearly labeled, and some people will always misunderstand one way or another. The best we can do is keep the community spirit healthy, ask creators kindly to add content warnings where appropriate, and gently correct misunderstandings or misinterpretations where they happen
I do ask for (lesser-known) content creators to put proper warnings or edit for better clarity, so far I’ve been ignored or in very extreme cases- blocked. But what can you do 
what you do is move on. the temptation to get excited and share something new is great, and the effort involved in editing a video or even a title is sometimes just too great for some to bother
but we still shouldn't assume malice and respond with anger
I already did, that was months ago, I was generally speaking. I did have the habit of posting screenshots as soon a new update drops without further clarification, so I can understand the excitement, but I am making the effort to no longer do so and simply test the update quietly
Not a tester, but what does "Player again able to jump during sequence after the Eye of Eden mountain" in #beta-announcements mean? Is that the sequence in the dark room to hug the child?
It says the testing for Days of Summer Lights is extended but I couldn't see the guide anywhere. (I know IAPs are missing in #beta-known-issues but is the guide intentionally missing or I just didn't find her?)
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
Days of Summer concluded testing, we’re now testing Days of Summer Light, which does not include the guide
Ahhhh so those are different events. Thank you for the clarification 
Hi is the trick of hiding under the table to avoid the krills if you are a chibi still working?
Is chibi fall alive as well atm?
Never heard of that trick, but chibi fall is still alive
Dark Dragon and Wasteland elder after hearing skykids avoiding wasteland after patches : Hah... chickens
and if you're not a beta player, asking for definitive answers here is generally not a great idea. sometimes things in beta change before they go live, and sometimes even beta players don't always have accurate ideas about how changes have affected different parts of the game
I have learnt how to avoid krills without tricks beforehand so HAH
Hiding under table works still.