#beta-discussion
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I meant the American measurement system in general but imma delete that message
BOat is stuck in 1 by 1 plants noooo. candle thing is still tgere hard to type while burning plants THERE IS A CANDLE
Reading in android
ah, i see. measuring in metric or imperial buckets. 🧠
football field:
Americans are very creative people

hamburgers
update: boat is not moving after we got all visible plants, guy is dying in water and candle by three knocked over benches and nothing is happening 🎵
nick is approximately 1/77 of a football field long
the polluted geyser is on a long scheduled timer. you cannot activate it. we added some darkness to burn away and i believe a chat bench for those who wish to while away the time, perhaps you'll make a new friend while you're there?
made new friend: jessica
So it will still clean itself?
If only-
Imo geyser cleaning itself doesn't highlight our contribution to the cleaning process...
I feel like we're there just to wait till we get wax since we can't really trigger/help cleaning it
#beta-feedback pls, I second this
Help it get uncloged from the trash 
WHYYYYY ITS SO SADDD #beta-screenshots-videos message
harsh reality
(if) Sanctuary spirits coming back while the event is happening: What happened to my home
The dont-solve-the-issue-eventually-it-will-itself vibe
added torch to muk to save people Hi cardmom
if something was supposed to happen at 12am EST, it didn't
It happen ed at 40 minutes ago. It will happen again at 20 Minites after reset...right now every 4 hours
I'm watching the PlayStore like a hawk, Google let me iiin 
Open to all? Does that mean...
||To the office||, after Update of course
the timer changed
Sure! I'll be there when Google Wakes up. 
I won't be awake at 1am...
1am? But it's only 21:06. 
lag spike
Of course after I sit all day timing it 😂
Beta shenanigans
Your effort is appreciated 
Think your sister can come here?
I got a good hammock nap in today
She's busy cleaning up village of dreams after my successful attempt of commuting arson there 
Not my realm...
Gurl... my realm? We don't have a 3rd sibling 
Are beta players supposed to see eachother and merge if they are on different builds? My android still didnt receive new build(although i did update just now) but my friend could merge with me still. They are on the next build...
I mean that doesnt happen on live. Is beta built differently? Or i did get the update, only play store doesnt have the right description set yet
if nothing happens I might have to go to bed
The village of dreams is the realm I rule over. You both rule over all of Valley, but not the Village
The day have just started for me
you can matchmake with players on different versions, but you won't be able to warp to friends on different builds.
For some reason I didn't get pinged for the update 
discord is weird with pings sometimes
I never get notifications from pings unless I'm in the app. I have all notification settings on 
I met someone that went home instantly, with no 10 second saaa sound either bug or idk
You will pay for messing with MY people
did you go home with them? because that sounds like they logged out of the game
Let's drop the roleplay for now 

So....have you seen the sky version of Patrick star on heels yet? 
Nope. I wear various outfits on Beta
SOMEONE IS LOSING WL
Who?
Just report them. Its not natural. Yeah ive seen people loosing their wls
Where are they losing their WL though?
/Ah, new update ?
I see Discord notifs decided to fail today 
randomly loosing a lot of winged light is something that should be reported. it falls under something that we shouldn't discuss here
I will forever call the sound effect for going home saaaa now. 
saaaaa
Chilling until Google gives update 
Anybody want a Christmas gift?
I'll drop you a Krill in your home
home trick 🥁
Then eat the dark crabs instead
Isn't normal to lose WL if you swim in toxic oil for long time?
Why home trick though? I thought I taught you better. 
Then the one who lose WL in cake's video is not sus right?
nonono
~~The setting ones don't work so
~~
As I always say: it's only a few stars.
enjoy the mini wing fiesta and get krilled.
it's a corner a small space so the wl doesn't launch
something something have to endure their wrath 
made friends with Ellamazing
Update
Google please 
petition to change google's sleep schedule so they're awake at night, so they can give us the update on time
They ever sleep?👁️👄👁️
Hey dumb question but do yall know what to do at sanctuary? I just see a new oily guiser
the thing that happens is on a timer. you just have to wait and see
Ty
The real question is how much you should be waiting 
we'll just have to find out. 
emma aunty can you warp to me :0
Android update hit... .92gb 
The office camera.... Is there any difference between different colors? I can't see any difference
Lol that shook me
time for me to wake up from my beta slumber. and maybe do eden over the weekend
Me only 28.31MB tho
Yay Google gave update 
Yeah, the downside of delta updates, randomly to ensure file parity, you have to redownload the whole application sometimes
Does the Sanctuary have different intro music?
How do the cameras work in ||office|| 
I cursed Emma to march
Almost 1 am and I'm gonna mess around in office 
Hopefully my wifi doesn't screw itself up like it is rn 
Seems to be missing for me..
The music just started playing with no intro
Strange (:0 I might record it and send it in the screenshots chat in just a minute. It’s much lengthier than the old one but I really like the way it sounds
Stop Uzephi noooo I won't sleep
went into office for the first time in a while and forgot how funny it is when you get smacked by the door 
Lol, I sent a video of it in the chat now if you wanna check it out right away
(From what you shared in beta screenshot)
Oooo so that’s how it sounds, for me it was sudden 
Hhh can my wifi work please
Strange (:0 Like it just skipped to the main song right away? If so then you may wanna send in a bug report
Looks like I’ll have to 
Zesty from your video, that does not sound like the background music in Sanctuary at all, from what I'm used to
I think it's a bug
Oh? I just mean that it seems like they’ve replaced the old intro to the Sanctuary with this new one. If it was a bug then it would probably sound more out of place, and it wouldn’t be a new theme that hasn’t shown up in the game before. Lemme find the intro from live to do a comparison rq ^^
There's the skid who is really dangerously close to the water, so I put a thingy there
But why would they change it so suddenly
If it changed for the event and for the event only, I'm fine with that
But if the music is gonna stay like what it is in beta forever? Then no
"Audio polish for geyser event"
I feel so stupid now
Bug reported-that was easier than Dreams attempt at bug reporting made it look 
@gilded talon @carmine thorn sorry I had to go to bed, irl mom caught me, but I know Uzephi mom would let me play longer :)
I cursed 4 people today with march
good night
I really like the detail that when you go to the studio , it's dark. It gets brighter as your eyes adjust to the surrounding. It's amazing
Only because it's a Friday... If it was a weekday or Sunday night...

I'll send pictures of our adventures
tomorrow
k bye
So... Nintendo login still doesn't know my user ID. I hope this is either for privacy and forced by Nintendo or a bug. I would like the comfort knowing the ID I synced like other sign in methods show.
Is anyone still not able to download beta even though you became a beta member weeks ago?
I still don’t get the geyser event in sanctuary, what are we supposed to do/where do we go?
So I went to Sanctuary and the music was the same as live? I just didn't hear the intro music, which is strange...
Same here, did a bug report just in case 
Any ios folk tho. How exactly the cam work 
Wait why my ping is delayed like 2hour 
Season_intro_1_10 🤣🤣🤣
No I haven't figured out the camera either
Where is the green screen room in the office?
I ate it 
is that the File name for the Season Intro Config file?
Did it taste like lettuce-
2nd floor of the office 
Wait,is data minning allowed?
You know Data Mining is not allow right @runic path
android players can update 
It's an inside joke😂 there was a time when the "Season_intro_1_10" was shown upon season starting
Data Mining It’s against TGC Code of Conduct and Term if Service
Well it was a bug
It's a inside joke since prophecy 
Yeah there have been some bugs like that where you could see partial file names in the game itself. Like when sometimes one of the Vault message shrines would display the prompt as "night_1_night_night" or something like that
why did i get the updates ping notification 6 minutes ago when the ping was 2 hours ago 
And the pin spells too if I’m not mistaken-
Also kinda rude assuming hacking or DATA mining is involved because of a name like that-
Oh... LOL, the time the game crash. Opps, my mistaken (Slowmode why)
Dating
Can we have hide UI while recording in android devices TGC ? 
Android is unable to do that, different hardware from ios
Sky Beta (iOS): Updating Process: 25% Completion
Currently listening to sad piano music while about to get back on beta
iOS has only one Hardware while Android has thousands of them... it’s hard to test multiple Hardware then iOS. iOS has 1 Hardware to Test and that’s it
Trying to figure out how the cameras work

Going to the office to test it
Also going to office
Although the SoC (System-on-Chip) is different from each generation, they act the same on all Apple Mobile Devices.
What TGC Developers feels when Testing Sky on iOS then Android:
relaxing Developers
TGC when developing Sky on Android: testing thousands of device and thousands of Hardware
Also TGC: sweating a lot
patch notes says the candle forging tutorial is fixed, has anyone tested that (not mentioned in dc patch note)
Btw, does anyone Notice the Log Out button in the Account Settings?
Yes, I just forged a candle and it didn't black out the screen so that seems to be good now
okay so what's tgc saying camera function should work correctly. is there any function with the camera ?
Yes and we can unlink the game linked google account or apple id
. Because support team is tired of many people sending request to unlink their Google account or Apple id
I’ll Test and record a video and upload to YouTube for you guys to see
It tilts your camera in a certain way
Where was the hammock quest again?
forest's brook. 2nd tree house
Huh... Maybe TGC have listened to us about Alt Accounts...
I’m still kinda sus about this
mine blacked out 
Also I found if you tried to link Game Center Account in Android account_game_center_not_avaiable show's up
Oh weird, it did it for me too on the second candle I forged. Time for more bug reports I guess
For me, first time it went black+notification, the second time no black but notification stays until i forge the candle
Also when I tried to link Nintendo Account to sky the game just crash
With the camera it seems to center it so it’s facing towards the green/blue screen if moved to face the said camera 
I kinda got all wax so I can't test till next reset, seems like it's not fully fixed then
The log out button does nothing it just kicks you out to the start screen
It actually log me out...
is the cape from last year is available in the office now a bug? i thought it wouldn't come back this year
So does anyone know the wait time for the geyser? (Its okay if no one knows I just want to see lil blue shell)
At first it showed up in the iap shop like any other iap item (outside of office), that was a bug and unintentional.
There 
so we can still buy the cape this year when it comes to live, right?
Who knows 
"Fixed issue preventing players with different quest progress to merge" Does that mean if i've done 2nd quest , i wont merge with players who are only on their 1st quest?
What does office camera actually do
The verbiage implies it used to be an issue. You should now merge correctly.
So the 'pollution' dark plants turned up sometime between 45 and 55mins in the hour...but when the server merged it was gone.. Does this mean it's a timed event? Or just new server to see it? (Or have I missed something else like bubbles from the event entirely???)
I thought it was timed event
Haven't tried waiting after update tho
Timed as in you have to wait there a set amount of time? Or timed like the dragon to appear at set times during the day?
just waited for almost 40m and nothing happened 🙉
I thought like dragon🐲
The candle tutorial bug still here-
I thought it was fixed?
It also happened to me but can’t seem to trigger it again
Yea me too only the first candle. I'll try again after reset
Battery go BRRRRRRR, at least I managed to test the cameras and visit the geyser area
Same for me in game, still get the tutorial. But according to the patch notes in TestFlight app, it was fixed.
So I cross-checked against the update notes posted by Ktjn in the beta updates channel. They haven’t mentioned it there. Maybe an accidental error that it was left on the update notes in app?
It isn't stated as fixed here, rather as a Known Issues 
The known issues was from prev build tho
But you still on the same account when you log in back
Yeah...
It supposed not work like that. Well, new account UI is not similar to iOS ui anymore.
Ahh... I still can’t see the light ball splits out from the hole... anybody know the time?
Oh oops, my brain was playing trick, thanks Uzephi 
So whats the office camera do?
At least for me, 2 out of the 3 just shift the camera into facing/getting in frame the blue and green screen 
Hey everyone... curious...
'Cus I have seen someone posting this somewhere...
Can the earth cape be traded...
Traded or bought?
Well, no item can be traded so no
Probably because you need to be in office to get the cape. I have heard some... Players who go against the spirit of Sky have been charging players for access to the office. Well, during us testing the Earth day event, the office is open for anyone to enter. Just talk to the NPC at the gate for a free pass in. (When they leave, you can probably find someone who will let you in for free also since we all can get the founder's cape for "free" in beta)
Oh yes, I know... during every event, the NPC is available to take you in the office

Will Cape Earth be available on the live version? Because ktjn said it won’t, but now it appears in the office, I’m very confused
Can you share which post ktjn said the cape wasn't returning? Last I heard we haven't had an announcement either way. The post in #beta-known-issues was about the cape appearing as a regular IAP. It's now locked behind the office.
Idk if it's valid but ktjn said it'll be in the office same as past legacy items and I assume it'll be the same in live too because they'd have stated otherwise
And it appears in your cape wardrobe if you don't buy it , so I'm pretty sure it's intended to be an iap.
Does anyone still have the Screen turn Dark and needed to forge Candle thingy after this Update ?
The one with Tutorial mode of needed to forge the Candle for First time
So orange has been nerfed in live too

What’s this about orange?
So if you wear 🍊 other players won't be able to see it, and after you restart the game the orange will be automatically unequipped. This is a temporary fix for cosmetic combo issue that's been causing the game to crash in several devices.
This one:pThink:
Aww, I understand the need for it, but it’s sad.
Hope they fix soon🥺🤞
Aaahhh urggg
Will there be tier 2 brown cape?
I don't think so
It is very rare to see people wearing the default Moth Cape
brown cape doesn't exist in any regular spirit does it, probably not
It could be a reward for ascending all the regular spirits... You know, finish getting all regular constellation wing buffs, get Tier 2 moth. 
A question I was wondering for awhile. I’m not sure if this was mentioned before and I didn’t look, but it says that the Cameras in Office should works properly now.
How are they supposed to work so I know they’re working properly?
I honestly don't know. I spent about 10 minutes playing with their settings and it seemed to do nothing but look like a traffic light.
Quick question, what’s the ascended candle price of pink black and white tier 2 cape?
All tier 2 capes are 3 times the price as tier 1.
50 x 3
That’s 150 hearts.
Good luck. 
I think they mean the wing buff price before the tier 2 cape
Oh I meant ascended candle lock
Oh I can’t answer I’m too scared to touch valley constellation-
3 times the price of the spirit's previous lock, I would assume. I only unlocked black and it was 12 AC compared to the 4 AC as the previous lock.
Has anyone figured out what the camera is for, it has the same function after update 👁️👄👁️
Ok thanks
Someone posted this but I haven’t tested it myself after the update #beta-screenshots-videos message
I have the pink cape and the 2nd tier costs 9 ac I believe
When tier 2 capes cost more ac than elder hair- 
It's really funny how afk peeps on beta start levitate after they were afk for long enough. They just do the levitate sitting emote and still have 💤's
they have ascended to another level of sleep 
Quick question, is there supposed to be an event skykid in the office?
Nope, because there are no in game currency items. There should be only the foundrrs cape npc
Ooh okay! Thank you! I’m used to in the live version that if foundeds cape npc is around the entrance there usually is an event kid there
would be fun if there is a npc in sant picking up rubbish
I can see them in sky, floating 
Are the plants supposed to not burn when you light them in the sanctuary??
Tier 4 cape when 
When i came to sanctuary the plants were already burnt, but they should be burn-able when you go there. They give nice wax 
Not much but it's the most wax I've collected from that event so far
It started working now ^^ but theres a urchin mile high and it won’t burn, all other things are burnt but the geysir is still polluted..
when invisible cape be available in live its will cost hearts too ?
and in beta its will back?
or i saved hearts for nothing 
Invisible cape is still under testing right now. No one knows if it'll go to Live or not, but hopefully not
Where am I supposed to get 1000 hearts from exactly
Wait is the geyser thing supposed to activate every hour?
Sometimes i see other players with a heart over their head, whats that about?
I think they are new players.
That means your "friendliness" bar is full and you are a sort of "Shepherd". The heart over their head is there to show you they are new players, so you know they might need help
Ooooh!
So far the hoop, spotlight, torch, hammock, bookshelf and tent are no longer backpacks and the pot, pillow and brazier still remain as backpacks? Corret me if im wrong 
I need this invisible cape for any number of hearts on the main sky, I hope it will be there soon
what is the geyser event? I've tried going to sanctuary to participate several times this past couple of days and my geysers always look normal 
Its not too much to do besides waiting a lot, or getting lucky, and managing to get there in that 10 mins while the geyser is active.
it shoots a few orbs into the air which gives you wax if you burn them.
Will invisible cape count to completion of costelation?
How long till they add the inbox feature on live? Is this the right place to ask?
The inbox feature is already in live@normal bison
Ah no but like sending it to freidns really just that part of it
I don't think that is in beta yet.
Even the beta only has tgc>players message functionality rn.
So, it's definitely still in development
Oki tsym!
Can some explain me how office camera works?
Can we clean the geyser
There’s some darkness to burn now.. but you just kinda have to be lucky or wait for it to explode. I have waited for the past 3 days and seen nothing. (I have left feedback already).
I think I figured out how the cameras work, it increases your player camera's depth of field with each level, as you toggle through each camera toggle level (and off to disable it). It's effect is only visible when you walk into the green/blue screen area and position your player camera to look into the area. It's hard to show in pics as I've shown in #beta-screenshots-videos but it's definitely noticeable in person
so, we can't record or take pics? the blue and green chromakey boxes are for post-editing? hopefully all will be revealed. it would be nice to know what we are testing 🙂
From what I can tell it centers your character to the middle of the screen.. not sure what the difference between the 3 colors of lights is though
Lol the screen now goes dark every time you forge a candle?
I still confused about new account UI. You can Unlink linked social account. 
office cameras should work correctly now says the update note
wth is a correct way here?
are we supposed to waste our time and figure out nothing eventually?
why are update notes so vague 🤦🏻♂️.
kindly don't start that "oh this is beta you have to figure out yourself" non sense.
If they give us some product we will test the product and pass feedback but instead they don't even tell us what the product is, this is crazy.
When you click the camera button it just change colour's.
it changed colors before the update too😂,
then what's the correct way now?
I so confuse. They should state the function of it. Not let the tester waste their time to find what's actually it is.
They should make it to click the camera and record the video in that camera 🎥 POV.
is sky beta completely safe?
all i know is red makes your camera automatically angle a certain way
they don't tell us every single detail so that it can be detected or adapted to easily by normal players, without anyone telling you wheres this hows that, so they can improve on it for example when it isn't vague enough, they can make it more obvious
at the same time, it shows when something isn't working
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
I just give up.
from now I'll only visit beta to see cosmetics and new areas early
who needs testing? even the Dev's don't need testing 😂 that's why they don't clearly mention what to test -_-".
I have joined recently and i have been deligently testing everything including cr with every new update. But it all seems a waste of time
To download and play if you got in with the invite waves yes. However you can lose all your progress etc. if they decide to do a progress wipe so in terms of that its not 'safe'.
testing is optional, nobody forces you to do that, its something you volunteer to help test and improve the game
you don't get pay nor you have to do testing everytime
its something you should have known when signing up for this
this is just a speculation about the red think
try in a 3 way closed kind of room and you will experience same camera fixation as you did in office.
They don't really have any function
if they truly have a function and if it's taking hours to figure that out and still don't get it, then that function is not very useful or not a function at all.
i would rather prefer tutorials as separate section instead of making non-social media skykids understand few complex things in a simpler way
Thats a good feedback tho. If its hard or impossible to figure out how it works, because you dont see any major difference, then its either still buggy or they have to change something to make it more clear to players what to do there.
Regarding the lack of details about how the cameras function, I can see it making sense in that live players who don't check patch notes or social media are going to be equally as confused about what to do with them when there's no text description in-game, so it makes sense that they might want to see if we can figure it out ourselves as part of the test conditions -- my current feedback regarding it is that I've got no clue what they're meant to do
im talking about sky beta messing up what's outside the game, the phone
btw testing is not optional
the purpose of signing up is solely for the reason of testing.
No? why else?
you mean we actually sign up for reasons other than testing!? isn't that wrong?
everytime a update rolls out, people who signed up here has to test, that is the purpose of sky kids here, it's not optional the moment we sign up we already made the decision.
Oh no, it should definitely never do such a thing. It's certainly safe in that manner
Ahh i see, no it wont, its totally safe.
i think it may be worth noting that giving details on how things are supposed to work might not always lead to the most useful testing. for example, if you’re supposed to understand how something works without a detailed explanation, you can give valuable feedback on how intuitive it was and what was hard to understand 
You could just sign out of testing though, if you do not wish to participate in beta testing anymore
especially since most players in the live game don’t read patch notes 

even beta updates/beta issues often get ignored
yeah it's understandable about why there no details
but how are you going to explain a camera function( may be complex) with three options without communicating and waiting for a kid to figure out, just how 😅?
isn't that like almost impossible?
#beta-feedback and they will listen it
we did figure it out on our own, didn't we? 
That's exactly it -- could they have made the effect immediately apparent when you pressed the button, or have otherwise guided you through a series of cutscenes that sort of show you what it does? It's up to them to figure out how to make it apparent to us what the functionality is if they don't want to use text, or if they ultimately decide they want to explain it explicitly in text
Camera maybe it's just a placeholder doesn't have actually a function
The correct feedback from what you're saying right now is "this is apparently supposed to do something, but it's completely unclear to me because no part of the game really explains or shows what it does", which is what I'd submit as well
I think its totally possible that its still not working as it should. We got updates with the sakura tree telling its giving wax, and then it didn't, even tho they said the dev build was working just fine.
Maybe its the same with the camera too?
That's also possible, yeah, which is why it's best to submit the feedback as you're observing it -- answer to "I don't get what this is supposed to do" could be anything from "we didn't make it clear enough" to "oops, it really isn't working yet" 
Quoting this from earlier for visibility, It's working I believe but yeah it's not clear at first
True, I'll submit my feedback after trying to figure out abit more.
Hope our feedbacks actually are accountable
after some more testing
-all modes are similar, it angles your camera when you get inside the area
-all colours represents different heights your camera pans to (?)
-focus and depth (?)
hello everyone, i have been trying to update sky beta for a time now. seems like my testflight app is the problem. it says that the app couldnt connect to “apple store connect” if anyone is knowledgable about this issue pls dm me.
I have the update installed, Will try to play some when I get home from work and test the geyser and such 
I saw that there is a unlink button to google but it said error when i tried to. Is this one still in process or bug?
Is it a bug that I can only sit once and then can't lay down?
Hi everyone! The update says office cameras should be working, but when I click on the icon it only changes the camera lights. Is this the only thing it is supposed to do?
There's someone explaining in #beta-screenshots-videos but idk how to share link I'm noob at discord
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Yay copy paste worked
Oh thank you! Will try that out
We have no eta for the new event right?
What's an eta? 
you don't have to test everything, you can take a break for a while or avoid testing things that take a lot of time
Estimated time of arrival
Estimated time of arrival srry
Ohh I see, thank you 
No, we do have, it's said in news it's somewhere by the end of the month
around Earth Day
Oh right, duh 
Can someone tell me here is the bookshelf from assembly guide have any function so far?
Look out for 'Days of Nature' coming to Sky in time for Earth Day, Thursday April 22nd!
am i the only one (android) who sometimes "you need more space" while i got plenty of space and the update is actually just around 28 mb but i need to delete 200+- mb... 
So who was going to tell me that we already had high heel in sky 
It's supposed to have a purpose not function. A new feature is supposed to explain everything to make sense.
Beta players are awaiting for the update.
But the price still 30 heart?
if i could have it and place it to change looks that would be epic
About the bookshelf.
It doesn't have a function and as you can see since it's been moved from seasonal to QG that means buying the bookshelf is a choice you can skip and still finish the season.
Hello, does anyone know what they meant “the cameras should work now” or something like that?....
Oh no, i know the bookshelf function now, its lowkey shield for protect ourself from krill
or bonking krill
no they patched it
Fun fact. The devs noticed that the props protect us from krills so they patched it... At least partialy
Does anyone have the problem where when you gain a candle it always shows that little ‘tutorial’ ? (Android)
Dev really want us to eaten with no protection, at least make a protection prop 
Does anyone have the problem where when you gain a candle it always shows that little ‘tutorial’ ? (Android)
@ivory hound yes until now
Its still going on for me 😭
Wait what purpose does it have tho? Other than being a quest item?
Anyone remember which is the tent quest?
Idk why they patch the playy dead emote, play dead to avoid krill makes so much sense ngl
3rd quest im p sure, in ruins
The one that needs 3 people? 😂😭
It happened to me only once after reset and then no more
Anyone had any luck with the geyser quest yet? I still haven’t been able to do it
They want kids die before reach orbit, u know not many sky kids are brave enough to taunting or face krills, even my friend that adult still scared xd and dev want people to eaten by that Reika's killer machine
Note: Sky has no logic
I wanna ask, is a weird pitch for gray kids normal? It's like, awfully pitched. 
Where is the spotlight quest in forest?
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
do you have a recording accidentally?
the 4-person quest in the first treehouse
Thank you
Where the face palm spirit is
Also @Pakka#8080 no, but i can go record it later and ping you if you want. Im actually going out in a lil
Did anyone saw the geyser working in the last few hours?
I've been waiting for about half an hour maybe a little more now and nope
I've posted some images that better show what each camera level actually does to #beta-screenshots-videos for those who are still wondering what they do
I waited for a bit over an hour this morning too but nothing
the timer still seems very long to me in the latest build
I've still never seen it .-.
I'm over the 3 h mark and nothing so far. Previous build was 4 h iirc. we will see
Omg if it happens every 3h i probably will never wait for it in live😂
It didn't happen in 3 hours so far
so if this stays like this i will ignore the whole thing in live for sure.
Unless it’s like one-two hours interval, I’ll most probably also ignore it
We won't know the purpose untill TGC explicitly states it or we get a future update that gives an self explanation for the "purpose" of these items. I do speculate its for decorative/Photographic purpose only, but that's me at this point of time.
Hello, so for the office studio, the camera effects basically work for whoever is in the blue/green boxes, right? and only if someone is manning the cameras? I accidentally found out when someone was tinkering with the cameras while i was inside...
Will the new tier 2 capes come to live with the earth day update?
Maybe...
Fix the brightness (the bloom/glare) it's too much. Our eyes get tired quickly and it's blinding!!
Feedback to developer?
Should send that to #beta-feedback (?) or this is a live thing? If so #live-feedback ? Cuz the developers are more likely to look in those channels than these (i mostly see ktjn in this channel so far)
and agaaain...2 hours waiting on the geyser and nothing happened

I don't understand this geyser thing lol. maybe there are set times like with the dragon?
yes, it's a timer event
I’ve visited and collected light from the geyser that was from a previous eruption, so I guess that was nice, but I’d really love to see it actually erupt, and be able to burn the darkness/pollution away myself!
When NEW SEASON locate in EYE OF EDEN ? I waiting for this long time !
we dont know, it could come, but it also couldnt. i personally really doubt itll happen unfortunately :( lets hope im wrong
It's unfair to those who haven't gone to eden/new players/are scared of eden
I also doubt it'll happen
I’ve been waiting for 4hours and nothing happened with geyser. Before the update the interval was 4 hours. The patch notes say it’s a bit less. So either it’s bugged or 5 is less than 4 
yesterday I waited for 4 hours and nothing happened
May I dm you friend?
sure
May I ask a question ? Will the earth cape come in the days of nature when it hit live ? I just want to make sure about something
and thank you in advance 
There is no 100% confirmation but there is a good chance it is coming as we have it as a spell and it’s available in office and office is open to all in beta
the earth cape is available in beta right now as a part of the days of nature event, other legacy items which have repeated in the beta event have repeated in live but nothing is certain in beta 
I looked to see if this was asked but didn’t see anything.... is the annoying reminder to forge a light tribute a bug or is there something I can do to make it stop? Every time i collect an area’s seasonals, or get to a certain point of collecting wax, it now darkens my screen and highlights the candle in the upper left telling me to forge a tribute. Seriously interrupts gameplay, but not sure if it’s a bug or if i missed some discussion/announcement.
bug
It's in #beta-known-issues isn't it?
Whew. Thanks.. i looked through the known issues before posting, but must have missed that
It's so annoying
Geez.. and it’s the last item posted in that thread. Haha. I need to go back to bed.
I was trying to do the spotlight mission to progress in my season task, and I was keep being merge away from people

Well. I am having trouble finding anything about Days Of Nature. I have the cape and the conch necklace.
Any updates on the slippery chair bug? Chatting is a nightmare 
What is the slippery chair?
wait is the earth cape thingy coming to live? 🥺
i saw it in the shop in beta and got so excited lol
Still happening thats all i experienced today.
In both versions still afaik
when you sit at a chatting table for example every once in a while it'll throw off anyone who didn't originally place that table
earth cape has already been in live
it might come back but that might change since yknow. beta stuff can change
unless you meant the sea one?
I personally don't think the earth cape is coming back, I don't mind if it isn't
Understand if they didn't but it would be a bummer
The npc has arrived so it will probably be available in office 
oops coming back is what i meant 
aaaa i love earth cape though 🤞 🥺
It might, or might not, we'll know soon enough
yee
Thanks. @lucid ginkgo
me really hoping AFK isn't a thing soon if ever
please not soon soon
It should just be removed all together, that's all I'm gonna say about it
Does anyone know how long the afk thing is for?
As in, how long you need to be afk for to not get wax
2 minutes, 💤's appear
10 minutes (?) Bigger 💤's and disabled wax collecting
Honestly, I went to the tree in home before the afk and there was never any wax for me at the tree. Maybe it should give us more time?
The amout of wax has increased overtime as the tree bloomed more
Oof. Lol🤪
Talking afk.... Goodnight!
Gn! Also i think I'll report the pitched honk which i showed in #beta-screenshots-videos the honk is too strange for it to be right.
And if it's normal then I'll head to feedback
Oh let me check it out
that's been a thing since Sanctuary
Oh those honks?
Well i reported them. Lil late. But i still think it's kinda annoying to me. Especially when there's bunch of them honking around me
oyaka might have played sky a lot later so the issue is new to them, but yeah its been a thing for a very long time
i think its an auditory bug? it happens the most often when the bgm is shifting in key from what i observe
It happens to spirit manta call, unlit call, and jelly call
I've been in the game since Enchantment but yeah, i did skip a long time until middle of Phrophecy, so it is new to me.
Thanks for letting me know though! :pSkyLove:
is there a way to delete reports then or do i just leave it?
Is there new candle in the new area(tree house)?
No
TGC: this is polluted geyser, it's bad, you should clean it up.
Skids: mmmmmm oil bath
JGCSCIGS
if it was oil... all those torches could cause some trouble in there.
step 1
cover yourself in oil
step 2
ascend into the floating fridge in the ocean
If logic was a thing we wouldn't be able to light that torch up underwater in the first place 
what does the office spirit have?
There's no office npc this time for igc items, because there are no igc items. Oh i have an idea what if there's a earth day cape npc
What if instead of earth day cape we get a sprout head accessory ||if any of you mentions among us imma drag you to eden ||
Tempted 
Like among u- 
Oooohhh then I can be like herb cookie from cookie run!!
Tgc: geyser event occurs a little frequently now
Geyser: i don't think so
They said a little. They meant a little
||a little = 2 minutes||
Super Paper Mario, anyone?
Hello, could someone enlighten me about the whereabouts of the tent quest? 
The tent scavenger hunt to be exact
Fine I’ll mention Pikmin instead. 
The tent is on the last treehouse, 3 ppl quest
And i did the wrong two ppl quest, there are so many quest which i cant remember which one is which 
Can I get the green earth day cape somehow? It says premium candle shop..
It's an IAP (in app purchase) you can only get it for real money. And besides it's in beta yet and noone knows whether it'll go to live
It’s not in beta yet?
It's in beta only yet
Whaaaat whereeee ;-; I can’t find it in my candle shop
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
you need to be in office
!thanks🥺🥺
Has anyone seen the geyser active since the most recent update?
I am so sorry, y'all. It looks like the changes we made to the geyser timed event are not working correctly, so the geyser has not gone off since the latest build went out. I've updated #beta-known-issues to clarify.
7 hours

The waves were nice and calming background noises at least 
that explain a lot of things xD
Oh no! SO many people waiting.. hahahah at least I hope everyone made new frens

To be fair I only wait 45 mins....look forward to something more obvious next build
It was nice to have a lovely dinner with friends who dropped by my table
Well, we spent some interesting times there 😄 The sad part is, though, that we saw players immerse themselves in the water of the geyser for so long that they began to lose stars. To me that is the saddest thing for someone to do, no matter where in the game they do it
I do that too but it’s for fun. Some players aren’t attached to wings, and don’t worry about their stars. As long as they are entertaining, I don’t see it as a sad thing 
The stars to me are life, the life-giving force. I respect them exactly as I respect real life in all its forms
I'm getting some funny meme vibes from this, like the "I'll surprise my dad when he comes home" and well... hE dOeSn'T so they just stand there for days
But now we're there geyser sightseeing :pHypeKid:
if you complete assembly quests as daily quests before even starting the quests for real the quests you've done before will count towards completion when you're moving up the quest tree and I think that's neat 
Alright, conspiracy time.
The posters in the office are slowly dissapearing because when it realeases on switch, they won't plan on bringing their legacy content over and are wiping out references to get our hopes up.
Or alternate option: it's a visual glitch 😂
Wait what
I still don’t do hoop quest because of that. I’m afraid to lose the rain in treehouse. I wish there was an option to keep the rain for players who prefers 
just never talk to the qg at the treehouse
the rain was cozy ngl
They worked hard and made a huge canopy only for the rain to stop
Yeah it doesn’t add up for me either
rain: *rains
kids: *build canopy
rain: *stops
Kids: Bruh
looks like a missing texture, please bug report it.
Also, I have been experiencing a table seats teleporting issue which I reported for live earlier too. The person who sits on my table, appears at someone else’s prop or someone who is sleeping on their hammock appears at my table when I place a table.
Imagine how much will their back hurt when they wake up on the table instead of the hammock.
The hammock will randomly fling you across the map too, a friend on my hammock was but when I tried I couldn’t make it happen again
The hammock has become a trampoline 
Trampolines in sky? 
I see an Earth Day sprout cape spell in the Ark 
Sus
What is tgc planning 
Some very neat things.
Or some very sneaky surprise things.
Anyone know where the tent quest is? I need to do it for the daily quests lmao
It's in the third area of forest and requires 3 people
Does the tent item protect you from the rain?
Trying to remember which quest and spirits are which is gonna be a bit of a pain if all these are going to be showing up in the dailies. It would help to get a better hint in the quest description
Or at the site of the scavenger hunt needing to be done.. similar to relive spirits
Imagine journey on switch 
Can someone please explain what the geyser event is?
Ola
So,
you know how there's pollution on earth? Specifically in oceans?
With every other year the polluted oceans kill entire species of animals and form literal Islands of trash bigger than Madagascar.
For this year's earth day TGC created a charity event specifically to help clean up oceans. And to have the event's representation in the sky kingdom this event's activity is cleaning up a polluted geyser.
If you head to sanctuary islands you'll find out that a boat has crashed on it's shores and has caused and oil leak. Every now and then the geyser erupts - polluting the surroundings. Our job is to clean up that pollution and as a reward we'll get a decent amount of wax.
Parallel to that during the event 2 cosmetics will be sold as IAP for real currencies. A part of the profit will be donated by TGC to help the oceans.
Hope this helped 
Thank you!! Appreciate it alot
@sick pendant
Oi
I'll see if I can at least get the shell necklace, this event hitting close to home for me and I wanna help 
The sitting bug is. Such a pain in the neck.
For some reason when I try and get the new version for beta it just stops updating midway through, does anynody know why
I had this issue before, and it was because my phone didn’t have enough space to install it
So you could try making some space on your phone if that’s a possibility
Aaaa that makes alot of sense hsvshs my phones storage is a bit full rn
I feel that so much lmao 
Can you buy the pinwheel permanently somewhere, or is it only available as a spell? (Please ping if you answer)
Please don't cold ping developers, that message you replied to was from over 2 hours ago
Can I ask questions about what I hear/ watch and is it real or fake
Only as spell for the moment
You should read #news and/or #beta-announcements for upcoming stuff or things in testing
If something you saw is not there, most likely it's fake
Everything in beta is a subject to change. Keep that in mind 
In any case, you can always DM @hardy carbon to ask for clarification from TGC themselves. But in general it's best to not spread rumors in the public channels in case it's fake 
A healthy reminder
If you belive you've stumbled upon hacked content you can message @ThatHelpBot#8035
P. S. I feel this mental connection with you Mirian rn. It's like we both know 
Unfortunately rumors or hacked content are a common occurrence in social media
But those are great reminders either way
Aight. Imma go write a feedback
This candle tutorial bug it's so annoying
Welcome to beta where things break and some bugs might be annoying. 
@carmine thorn, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
This chat is really dead nowadays
Uhh where is the scavenger hunt of the cover thing
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
If I recall correctly, it’s in the third treehouse, it requires four or three players to start or whatever, anyway it’s not the one with only one player needed that’s the thing I know for sure 
No one wants to come
Oh well that’s sad 
I jUsT wAnTeD cAnDlE
... 
This is why I have trust issues 
Did they fix the bug in the candle forging tutorial? I am very sure that in the last update they still didnt fix it.
Apparently it was a bug that didnt need updating
It did happen earlier for me also 
@neat stream I'm pretty sure me and @thick ibex were there, the pot and torch are in the exact same spot that we saw before you both left, I placed the small torch thingy that you can find in valley inside the pot and lit it up I remember seeing you and your friend there, I was wearing the earth day cape, jelly pants and the hair from face palm 
Hm, but the pot was... a pot and not this other thing 
But maybe I’ve seen you I don’t know anymore, my memory is terrible 
If you didn't light me maybe you lit nyx? He looked like the mini version of the quest giver 
Hey there, I'm unsure if i remember this right, but was there ever a time when the star field memorial was an actual beta item, or just a peice of leftover unused content?
I don’t know how people looked like the only thing I remember is ✨pot torch✨ xD
That's completely okay but I for sure remember seeing you guys, sky sometimes is a small world and we happened to merge 
I just remember lighting you up right before you and your friend in the dreams ultimate cape left 
Oh and also there was some player with a hammock somewhere in the air where I was, I had a screenshot 
I have no screenshot in which you show up, sadly
But I have like five screenshots of me crab walking next to the torch 
Someone please go to the cover scavenger hunt 
@thick ibex @opaque swan My friend said hi 
Lonely in geyser ;-;
not that it works
So the afk rule is still in the beta?
From what I heard it is still in beta but they made the inability to get light only at the 10 minute mark
I expect that this is just a testing number too
but realistically when being ubered you need to be at the screen at least every 10 minutes or less
I think they should extend it, like atleast more than 12min
Btw when I watch the vid from sir arxia,it said that if you go in to another area the afk timer will reset
Why? In my personal opinion I find 10 minutes to be too generous. If youre ubering someone and theyre away for more than 10 minutes its not really fair to the person ubering. He might as well go solo at this point
I mean the Uber is choosing to lead them in the first place
They can just let go of their hand anytime
which is probably what they'll do if they're away for 10 minutes
So.....you haven't meet anyone in sky who was in a hurry,or busy?
Or maybe they’re choosing to lead because they’re faster and better at flying. Not because they want to be used. But none of that matters because the devs want engagement. I mean the whole point of the afk system is to only give wax to people who are actively online
I was away for 15 minutes washing dishes once in Live. I had gotten hit by a crab and my friend was sitting there waiting for me
I don't think I've ever been away for more than 10 minutes and had it turn out
afk is an accessibility issue too. the great thing about you not consenting to an afk passenger is you have the option to drop them. but some people uber their friends knowing they're afk for disabilities like photosensitivity, arthritis (and other ones affecting motor skills), add/adhd, and probably ones I don't even know about. it's really rude/dismissive to tell someone they should be punished for playing the game in a way that adapts to their disabilities.
I still think the timer is too disruptive no matter what
Most agreements between Uber & ubered on this are based on consent
If this is not the case for some people Ubering then I suggest them to let go of the person they’re ubering (especially if they feel used bc that’s more of a personal problem than anything)
They STILL letting us afk in Cr,and the purpose of the that extended afk system is that they no longer let us get free wax next year (days of bloom)
all you have to do is touch the screen
Keep in mind the timer resets every level transition too
I agree with James. A single touch on your screen every 10 minutes should not be that much of an issue to most people
I guess so
Now it resets but they MAY or MAY NOT change that to let the 10 minutes carry to other levels
The disability thing makes sense ye. Sometimes we have to do self care and stuff because of living disabled, and an AFK does make us feel forced to neglect our own care just to make sure our wax is collected.
Then again, I prefer to lead anyways. If I don't feel well, I just don't play.
"just touch the screen" / "just don't be disabled". look it may not sound like an issue to you but that doesn't mean it isn't an issue. it resetting every transition is good. ten minutes is already way better than 2. but it's still rude and dismissive the way a lot of people are talking about afk as if it's just a lazy thing when it's not
Not agreeing with you is not rude. And I said most people not all people because I don’t involve the whole population in my opinions since I’m aware there are instances where things that I can’t even think of may come in the way. But remember, collecting wax is not a religion. If I’m so busy that I cant touch my screen 6 times an hour, I don’t go online
there's no area in the game in which a CR takes 10 minutes unless there's a tree
autoclickers are against TOS and can get your account banned
I don't suggest talking about them
Oh wow
This is really something TGC needs to acknowledge, absolutely.
Helping with disability accessability, of course people will exploit things that are meant to help us.
Its the classroom effect. Something is ruined for everyone because of some people taking advantage of the ease. Honestly TGC needs to realize that some things will just always be taken advantage of, even if the ease is meant to help disabled people.
Either don't add an AFK, or don't do these types of wax collecting events such as the Bloom tree.
And before anyone loses their mind on me. Nothing I spoke of involved people with literal disabilities. Im mostly speaking of people who are either lazy OR too busy with everyday life stuff. I do not have a disability so I don’t have the right to speak in the name of anyone who isn’t abled
Agreed. In my opinion accessibility towards disabled players is more important than stopping people exploiting new features.
Also, I was once studying, but paying attention to the screen, and didn't touch the screen for a long amount of time, it marked me as afk (I was getting led by my friend)
Someone take me on a CR and I'll watch the screen the whole time. I want to see if I'll end up not collecting some wax because I'm AFK
Just watch your skykid that's all
alright hopping onto the bandwagon here... deemingambition has phrased it perfectly, and most people AFK have valid reasons (i.e. disabilities/busy with life) like heck you want to tell someone with arthritis to just get over it? please think again. either you don't add passive wax farming, or you don't remove afk. i'm sorry if this comes off as harsh im just sick of this debate- if anyone wants to attack me do it in DMs not here, don't disrupt the topic
yes but 10 minutes + being reset on area transitions seems to me like something that won't realistically be triggered unless you're doing something like sitting under the Bloom tree
My main thing is that I'm scared that one day they'll implement something so gatekeepy that I will have to quit Sky. I stay on Sky because its such a relaxing game with ease of access to enjoy the game. I'm just scared that they may one day change that and end up ostracizing the disabled community that plays the game in the process.
People shouldn’t be attacking anyone over an opinion, and you shouldn’t invite that to your dms
so I'd like to test out my theory and see if I'm incorrect
#beta-feedback is always open :D
PM me a QR, we can test it together right now if you like.
Can someone make a green screen of the Dance Emote? Thanks! (I'm not in Beta so-)
Remember to keep things respectful and civil, there is no reason to argue. Everyone can contribute their opinions in a constructive and calm manner. 
The option to let go of a hand is there for a reason right?
It all comes down to the agreement made between the Uber and person getting Ubered
A lot of people Uber their afk friends with no problem at all (for many reasons)
People who Uber in general also open themselves up to the possibility of their passenger going afk if they didn’t make any specific agreement in the first place (in that case, one can either try and talk to them or let go of their hand if it’s a bother)
As for passive ways to collect light, they’re bound to get taken advantage of no matter what, adding this system will probably make it worse ngl
This place isn’t to ask beta testers for specific things
Same here. And because Sky is my special interest if I stop playing I will probably stop functioning completely. It's either experience physical symptoms from my joint pain or I literally will stop functioning normally.
Oh okie- where can I ask?
You just need to wait for the feature to come out in live
Hey, Sky is my fixation right now too!
:000 ND gang!
we're both in the same boat, because if i don't play sky i'd literally combust from everything going on rn
Alright, thanks Seraph! 
Hell yeah!! Nd gang!! Also hellooo Juno, the person who is currently ubering me while I am afk lol
You two have me and Vash like 
I am not a TCG employee, so take this with a grain of salt. But my opinion is that the afk thing isn’t made for people ubering other people.
I personally think that this is made because there exist players exploiting the game, making multiple accounts and ubering themselves and finishing the run on multiple accounts to be able to gift themselves multiple hearts daily with their alternate accounts
Ye we know that, but for them to try and prevent that exploitation, that ends up ruining things for normal players who are disabled.
It wasn’t made to target people ubering others, they’ve already said so
but it's slightly ruining the fragile ecosystem, and the friendship between ubers and chargers. personally i'd say chargers are really useful, and ubers can run faster with a friend. and isn't that the point of sky? to have friends?
Yes, they have said this, but it also affects the ubering system as a side effect. Which will hurt disabled players who rely on it
I honestly see no issue with the afk system
And I'm quite sure they already said that it doesn't affect ubering afk because your character is in fact moving around
I wasn’t aware that they specifically came out and said its targeting people with multiple accounts. I made an assumption and didn’t know it was confirmed. Thanks for pointing that out
No it does. We are all beta testers for the most part and yes people being ubered so get flagged as afk.
I understand that those issues are very present
And I also get that the system wasn’t made specifically to target the Uber system, but it will still be the most affected indirectly
Although I am still against it, the system should be implemented in specific areas to solve this and not the whole thing
Then that's a bug my friend
If not it's something to be said in #beta-feedback
agreed! if you do want to combat afk at homespace, then do it! ten minutes before you can't collect wax passively. don't ruin entire realm ubers please
I don't usually visit beta due to spoilers but I have been watching and need to say something.
I just don't understand how they and all who agree don't see that this system will bring everyone down.
Those who are too busy won't be able to be ubered because of it, people who are "lazy", people who need to do other things, people who are new to the game, people who are disabled in some way, etc.
It WILL screw everyone over.
Not a bug. Afk flagging returned
Wait, TGC has never made a statement that it doesn't affect people being ubered as far as I am aware
Should be a thing of you and the leader isn't moving. That would solve it immediately. As long as the leader is moving, it shouldn't flag you. That's how the AFK should be.
Kitro it actually isn't a bug. Ktjn specifically said it was to prevent people from tag-teaming for passive wax (bloom tree etc.) by taking turns holding hand and moving around for a few hours
That’s a really good idea as well
correct, and the ten minutes, if you want no passive wax collection, either remove passive wax collection at homespace or keep the ten minute limit there
I'm okay with the afk thing, as long as it's a period of time one would have to be away from the game to go afk. Example: My best friend ubers me around sometimes while I have to work on art stuff (commission or other), and even tho we chat through the game sometimes I'm so zoned into what I'm doing irl I forget to interact with the game lol
This would actually be a great solution ngl. I like this
When they first explained how it worked in #beta-announcements they indirectly said that if you're moving it shouldn't affect you
But I'm not a tester, I dunno how it works
direct quote from the top pinned message here: "Unfortunately you could circumvent the afk timer by holding hands with another player, so two people could buddy up and sit under the tree indefinitely collecting light, rendering the timer useless/nonexistent. "
circles back around to people with ill intentions ruining it for innocent people
If its for passive collection like bloom tree an easy fix would be making afk flagging area specific
If each floor In the vault is count as their own area then I'm ok with the new afk system
sabotaging stuff for everyone isn't cool yall
(note for clarity im agreeing with kai, not attacking kai)
the devs are trying to future proof bc they have plans for other passive light events all over the realms, so that's why the afk thing currently extends to all realms
Then that's just sad for them
Someone might suggest a location afk system or something
But you need to not be afk for vault because you need to sit down to progress to the next level?
piggy rocket with two others works if you hold hands w one of them, you get split at lv4 tho
Oh yeah -_-
But you’re still not afk lol
You can't just go Afk on vault
Even though I’m not against afk flagging I’m trying to think subjectively here. What is the point of it when they already introduced chevrons?
Also trial
Making the system area specific would solve most of the disagreements on it
I understand that they implemented it everywhere because they have future plans with more passive ways to earn wax but... not every single corner of the realms will be that way right?
I don’t get why it can’t just be the specific areas
You can sit for however long you want and you’ll still barely get any candles beyond the 20th-21st candle mark
The trial doesn't complete by itself
So in my opinion, if the AFK system is introduced mainly for passive collection like trees and whatever future plans, they already countered that with the chevron system
Someone might suggest some kind of circled area for the afk to work, like not the whole realm just the area where the wax can reach you
So basically like the detection area of non-cape players for || office ||
There are also a few areas where you get less wax than usual. Take Isle for example
I dunno what that is, sorry
The only detection I'd think would be the spirit barrier, but they're different than the tree in home area of wax for example
Yeah this is a good solution too!
Afk discussion again? 
it's hard to say if the afk thing could be area-specific when we don't know what kind of passive wax events tgc has in store... maybe whatever they have planned isn't area-specific at all... what then?
you can't go AFK in Vault, or Golden Wasteland, or Yeti Slope in Valley, or the 8-player room in Prairie, or the Forest temple
You can go AFK in Isle though. Isn't Isle the realm with the least amount of wax?
Wdym "you can't"
Like you don't have a need to or those places don't trigger the afk timer?
“You can’t go afk in wasteland” oh really ? 
I feel like this change specifically isn't in a certain area because of technical restrictions 
Actually has the most because trials 
I think you're looking for Wasteland.
There is a very lengthy pinned post explaining why the afk system was added.
Yeah, I get that, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Isle literally has 15 cakes in total
I read it before, but thanks for bringing that up, Ktjn
That's fine if you have, i'm sure some people have not, and i see some folks casually tossing around information that is not correct nor was it ever stated by myself or any other tgc representative.
Yep, I told you that night I appreciated that post even if I still don't agree :3
Maybe Prairie? Prairie has quite many candles from sanctuary islands, then you can get even more from 8 man area
I'm not talking about the chevrons, I'm talking about the wax orbs
the post is entirely valid! even if others have their opinions it's cool :)
Isle: || (1) cake in the tunnel thingy
(1) at the top of the mountain
(1) cake in the cave of profecies
(2) cakes in water trial
(2) cakes in earth trial
(4) cakes in air trial
(4) cakes in fire trial.
And scattered wax throughout. So (15) cakes overall I believe ||
I did the math right
And that's totally okay! We know we cannot make 100% of people happy 100% of the time. We aim to make decisions that have the entire community's best interest at the heart. At an individual level, it can appear that is not the case because devs have access to information that players do not. We always have the best intentions at the center of every design choice.
Prairie has quite the amount of orbs from Sanctuary Islands, plus you can even get more candles when it is the ||daily cakes realm and from the 8 man gate as well||
Ktjn, could you explain something to me? When it was enabled and explained in #beta-announcements , it gave me the impression that at least if you're moving you won't go afk. But then about the handholding issue. If you're afk irl but the person guiding is moving, you're also moving inside the game, no? So if you're moving, you won't be afk even if holding hands. Being dragged around could be another term for that
Or I just thought more than it really is 
The detection is on your screen not your character’s coordinates
Well yes but I'm excluding the daily cake rotations
Isle clearly has more wax orbs more than any other realm, hence the 15 cakes in it alone
What about Wasteland?
No it does not count count as moving. What the afk system tracks is input. so even the most gentle tap on the screen will clear the afk status and start the timer over.
according to clement's guide, isle has 870 wax orbs, way more than any other realm by quite a bit. prairie has 645 and gw has 640 on sundays
Alright. Hopefully this afk system isn't as bad as my intuition is making it seem.
Because as of right now, I sorta see a downfall coming with this...
And I don't want it to happen to Sky.
That's what I'm trying to prove 
I mean, I do know you all have our best intentions. The problem is that no matter what way you look at is this system will inadvertently hurt disabled people unless big changes are made to it. I agree that some people are exploiting this system, but is it really worth hurting players who need your support the most? No shade to you all ofc, this is just my opinion. And I'm aware there are things behind the scene I am not aware about. But because I don't know your plans I can't comment on them or make any judgements in whether or not it can help us, and nor will it factor in my opinion of the AFK system.
Isle does indeed appear to have the most wax of any realm right now when including the trials, but I've seen some questions recently about whether some of the newest candle cakes are all worth the same value, which may cause some fluctuations if it's shown that they're not. I'm still fairly confident that Isle + Trials should still be worth the most of any realm though
Hum I see then 
I have no idea how programming works so that's the best I could do
Even if there would be a daily cap of wax to be collected. Like wax worth the 20(?) Daily candles more 2 or 3 candles from the extra wax like the bloom tree. If you stayed all day in that tree you'd just be blocked from collecting more wax that day, and vice versa while doing cr. So maybe there wouldn't be a need for afk system, I dunno 
A lot of people laser focused on "socializing" and that isn't required. We hope that even while being ubered you are present with your uber. You don't have to carry on a conversation or engage in some kind of performative behavior to please some mythical socialization overlord. We're painfully aware the original communication about the afk timer had the best intentions but caused a lot more heartache than we realized.
So just tapping the screen makes you not seem as afk? I'm usually only half afk and still can tap the screen
Maybe a little bit of coordination detection should also come in play ?.
I'm just thinking about the people who are able to afk longer. Candle runners do get smarter everyday www
Unless for some ungodly reason, all of the shortcut holes and chibi glitch is patched--
it use to activate on me while using a controller cool to see plants burn then wax just sit
what about adjusting the volume? is that something that can be detected by the game?
If you'd be getting ubered and touch the screen once per 10 minutes that wouldn't be a problem at all I guess?
some of the cakes do look a bit smaller
i trust clement's guides though, and even then, the next closest is valley at 761 wax, which is still quite a bit less than 870 
adjusting volume isn't screen input, though I have not tried adjusting volume to clear afk. chances are you'd accidentally touch your screen during the process and clear your afk flag anyway.
You know what guys? I have an idea, it's really risky though
Is using emotes make u not afk because me and moon help each other for cr but dont have chat 
adjusting volume doesn't clear afk. apple pen and styluses do which can help some disabilities
rn I'm on a candle run through prairie afk, haven't stopped getting wax yet
If you touched the scree to select the emote yes, I think 
Yes well that was what it was marketed as a specific change you wanted from it, aside from stopping exploitations. At this point it just feels a bit like you are being condescending to us for responding to what you told us. I understand not wording things properly, human error is a normal thing, but telling us we can't respond to what you all said in the past because you didn't mean it is not player's faults
It did not help the situation that the first time the afk was introduced it had a glaring bug impacting all players who use a controller. making the change seem a lot more punishing than designed.

controllers didn't count as input at all when I tried mine the first time. Ihaven't tried since the new update cuz I haven't had the chance to yet 
I literally said this an hour ago and got attacked because apparently im “asking people with arthritis” to tap their screens too often (?)
Im glad that a dev in the flesh said that They hope youre present with your uber. (Im aware that hope doesnt mean required) but I’m glad this was said so I can stop being attacked while defending the afk system
Yeah, I'm not focusing on the socializing aspect of ubering. I'm focusing on the basis. It's literally driving people around to wax. And if people are away from their keyboard for longer than ten minutes (fell asleep, didn't think their work would last as long, etc) they shouldn't be "punished" for that.
The problem is a lot of disabled people ARE present with their ubers but either can't look at or interact with the screen. Don't target people with arthritis just because it was an example someone used. This affects many more people than just people with arthritis
Im not targeting anyone as I previously mentioned anyone with physical disabilities is excluded from anything I say as I have no right to involve them
I was quoting what was said to me. Ill add quotations to my comment to make it clearer its a quote
as someone who ubers for friends and offers ubers to ppl on this server occasionally, i would feel terrible if my friends didn't get the wax due to being afk if an area takes longer than 10 min to clear (and it often does, with larger groups) it would feel a bit like wasted effort on my part?
Hey guys. I just wanna ask, which candle guide do you all trust (honestly)?
u could just go out of the area and go back?
Yes you do. As allies, we're supposed to include and involve them. Just because you don't have issues doesn't mean you can't involve those who do.
The conversation was about disabilities overall, not just arthritis and the conversation wasn’t to attack anyone either but to bring light to the fact that the system makes it hard for many with disabilities (at least how it is rn)
Then don't take people's words out of context either. No one has been attacking you. We are trying to explain how something affects us. If you want to be an advocate for us at all the first step is actually listening to us instead of "oh I'm not disabled" and no listening to what we say
Someone who is able to play the game should still continue to be able to play the game
can someone send me a picture of ios beta crash message?
What? 😂 I excluded people with disabilities not to be dismissive but to prevent hurting anyone’s feeling with disabilities whom may not find me fit to speak for them
wouldn't that cause the area's burnt plants/lit candles to be reset? seems like a really roundabout solution if there's multiple ppl afk-ish at different intervals, and really really draining on the person leading
But some people aren't but need ti any ways for their mental health.
please don't exclude them, that's still being dismissive. Just a reminder: #beta-feedback is here :)
Oops I think I misphrased,
exactly what Kazoo said
That's exactly what ableism is though. You need to include us.
Off topic, but do you guys actually trust the candle guide made by Clement?
If you don't want ti hurt our feelings , don't exclude us. It's more hurtful for someone to not acknowledge our problems than if that person were to try and not get it 100% right
In my original comment I was saying if you’re too lazy or busy stay offline. I HAD to exclude you or else I’d have appeared as if I’m calling yall lazy
but if u dont get to burn 1 plant because it takes more then 10 minutes u only have to go back and burn that plant i dont think its that bad
Don’t speak for them, but Do Not Exclude Them. I say this as an able-bodied person who has several friends whom I help essentially daily. They exist. Don’t not take them into consideration because it just causes more problems than what you are trying to solve.
yes I actually know clement and have seen how hard they all work on those guides! they're as accurate as they can possibly be on them 
Depends on which of the candle guides you mean: I'm finding the latest chevron estimates (for live) to not really add up for me, since I'm unable to get to grey candle outside of Sundays unless I do Eden -- that doesn't line up with Clement's current wax totals for each realm
Clement amazing
Then include as and specifially say we aren't lazy!!! There is a solution here
I forgot to put the reply button on this.
"Yeah, I'm not focusing on the socializing aspect of ubering. I'm focusing on the basis. It's literally driving people around to wax. And if people are away from their keyboard for longer than ten minutes (fell asleep, didn't think their work would last as long, etc) they shouldn't be "punished" for that."
Let's make a deal
I do, mostly because Clement does a lot of research and works very hard on the guides! They also get help from other members for feedback, clarifications, edits, etc. to ensure that the guides are as accurate and helpful as possible. They’re also quick to edit their guides as needed if someone points out a mistake.
Don’t twist my word. The exclusion was not from the game aspect but from the aspect of the description I was giving
I used Lyst’s candle percentage count for my entire time in sky up until chevron system 
Clement is a lifesaver
I have a lot of respect for guide makers being able to spend hours on research and making charts to make most of our lives easier
i used clement as a reference, and i appreciate the effort put in by any guide maker in general (oop what puffsembles said)
Even if that, they shouldn't stay offline. I mean, Sky is meant to be an escape for everyone. Candle running can take a lot of work.
Let's strike a deal here
I ask you to a challenge
speaking of guides, I made a guide but it's more like a meme, I just finished it I'll post in #beta-screenshots-videos
That being said, with the new chevron system, there’s a lot being tweaked right now, so there may be inaccuracies and/or inconsistencies at times due to the creator not being able to account for all the changes being made by TGC, but Clement does an excellent job making sure the guides are updated as much as possible
Adjusting volume doesn’t count. Accepting phone call either. (Wow i was late with this part my bad)
I don’t think i will ever appreciate this change. I just think its not adressing the main problem why players behave the way they do, what are their original motives. Plus the initial communication introducing the system still gives a sour taste to the whole thing.
About the uber side, as someone who ubered friends a lot, all realms are possible to do with a person being fully afk, and its a nice challenge. The only thing without a workaround is the tornado (and server splits). I always considered it as a challenge for myself and helping out a friend rather than thinking about it as a burden. 
I see people with the invisible umbrella is this real?
Then they can stay online. But theyll be flagged.
“Sky is meant to be an escape”
It’s not an escape if you’re afk
And I happen to be talking about the same thing. You said you excluded them in the discussion because you didn’t want to hurt their feelings by not speaking for them. However, you actually completely disincluded them. You don’t need to speak for them, but you do need to acknowledge that they are affected by this
Uh, yeah, because then people can easily get back to the game.
But they cant go online if the app is closed?
No. It is. I literallt afk while Juno ubers me every day. We call and enjoy eachother's company while juno helps make sky more accessible to me. We have had a lot of great times playing sky together like this
Ok so I got the idea that many of you are confused about my question lol. I saw someone who had an invisible umbrella they were showing the three types of umbrellas. The purple, blue and invisible one is this real?
Hey ktjn if you're still here, I was wondering if with the different-coloured camera levels for the camera stands in the office greenscreen area, the changes in depth of field was definitely their intended behaviour?
I usually afk in forest as background ambiance when I do my schoolwork, that’s my escape
...that's not what afk means.
AFK means away from keyboard.
Meaning the game is still running.
It’s still an escape for many? They could be in voice call, having their phone nearby to listen to the music, etc
it's hard to say how taxing that would be in actual gameplay, over and over again. i for one try to minimize the amount of transitioning btwn areas bc my phone is pretty old and it takes a good few seconds to load in and it has a higher chance of crashing me depending on which area i'm crossing into 
Tell it to the devs. I didn’t program/code the afk system. I’m simply a supporter of it
posted >:D #beta-screenshots-videos message
it's supposed to simulate having different kinds of angled lenses like on a real camera.
? you can't just say something and when someone points out a flaw in your argument, then say "tell that to the devs not me"
You dont need to collect wax if you’re on the game to listen to music
I did. Don't get mad at me and change the topic for disagreeing with ya pal. The fact of the matter is you are wrong. Sky can still be an escape, even when afk. And the fact that you are sitting here deflecting is really dismissive
Please keep the disagreements respectful. Just because you feel you have a compelling argument, is not a reason to try and force someone to agree with you. If you're growing frustrated, step away from discord.
You want me to argue forever?
I support the afk system as the only effect of it is wax collection. You can use it as an escape. Listen to the music. Feel safe around people you enjoy. Do whatever you want. The ONLY effect is disabling wax collection
So yes, I acknowledge my faulty wording of calling it a non-escape and I apologize for that
Hey guys...
It's all connected, however. Collecting wax counts as an escape as well, because of the music and all that.
Whether we agree or not, TGC has the final say.
@bright scarab @spark lance both you, please drop it.
I meant listening to the background music while being afk collecting wax (being near but away from your phone for a number of reasons)
And no one else try to jump in and dog pile on either side please.
Consider me out of this discussion, out of respect to Ktjn and out of not causing anymore discomfort to anyone
i dont think any place is more then 10 minutes to cr for me but maybe the end of forest
Hey Ktjn. I feel like something's boiling up here
Then we should drop the topic
I'm aware, that's why i'm here on my day off to keep the peace
Yeah, drop the topic before it gets even worse
honestly, i don’t care if someone spends their entire day afk to collect wax, whether at the tree or by uber. it has absolutely ZERO impact on my gaming experience. so what if they get cosmetics before me? so what if they gain 1000 candles? i will make the achievements i desire in my own time.
i don’t understand why people are so tweaked over this

Anyways what do you guys think about the new background music?
I see some similarities with prophecy
How will i know if theres new invitation for beta i want to be a beta tester
@tall trail, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Also ktjn, is the intro music for Sanctuary islands supposed to be gone? Last time I went there (in beta of course), the intro didn't play, just went straight to the music
this is why we should be friends Ignis, it's like a mix of prophecy's beginning little lost violin and sauctuary openning
can anyone confirm if the chevron rates between live and beta currently feel different?
I'm not sure
They're identical
When I heard it I was like.... Prophecy this you?
ktjn... bless your sweet sweet heart. please take a day off away from this madness, protect yourself from burnout!
its nice that they re-adjusted the chevron rates in live, i can totally see the difference 
prophet of jellyfish, fire whisperer
All I can personally confirm is a full candle run of all realms excluding || orbit || and || office || in the LIVE version yields to approx 20 candles
waiiiiit a second...are you able to hit grey candle outside of sundays without going to eden, if you do full candle runs?
Ohhh, I was wondering why I felt a deja vu while hearing that soundtrack 
I just want say one last thing. I understand and think it's okay for people to support the afk system. I will not stop people from having their own opinions. And I am sorry to S8N if any of my messages came off as rude or dismissive. I just felt incredibly invalidated by some of their comments regarding disabled people and their experiences and wanted to respond. I in no way wanted to start a fight and will walk away from Beta chat to calm down. Sorry again for the trouble everyone 
I think I have in the past? Cant exactly remember
Well not really. The main instruments seem to be same and the note progression for some parts is the same while for the others it's similar just pitched a bit up and down
i remembered i hit grey when i reached 21 candles (that is including orbit)
The music has the lost violin of prophecy beginning
I'm hoping that the background music in sanctuary isn't permanent, I really like what it is in live 
Is it possible to send it on #beta-screenshots-videos
When will you be qualified for beta testing
i might need to pay a bit more attention then if grey candle got shifted to the 21st candle, i haven't been counting properly 
It's definetly sampled fro prophecy and you can tell.
||like toxic by britney spears was sampled from a bollywood movie||
We’re all good. People get carried away sometimes defending their opinions as I surely did so my apologies to anyone who felt attacked or dismissed. I have nothing but love to everyone here despite any difference in opinions
@torn path , to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
ite, it is changed tho, cuz
old rates: isle - vault: 18 candles
now rates: isle - vault: 19 candles
Anyways uh 
I'mma head out because idk what else to say about beta atm
I’ll just say as an Uber that I’m consenting to AFK passengers. If I wasn’t than I’d just drop em. That’s all.
oh darn i didnt know they adjusted rates for live recently? then again ive never done full CRs ever lols
When my friends fall asleep in cr i drop them to krills 
Don't forget #beta-feedback is open!
Ryan come back 
it feels weird when Uzephi isn't here but I can guess it's because of all the arguing
My friends drag me to full Cr on all realms sometimes. I even get drained of my chevrons after that
Did you take into account how many chevrons you started with and how full your candle already was at the start of the run?
did a full cr on live excluding ||orbit||, office and the trials and i got 19 candles
haven't checked in beta yet, though i guess getting 19/20 candles depend on your existing wax before actually starting your run
Soooo....... Anyone feel like sanctuary is missing something??
As always, when the conversation gets heated, sometimes the best thing to do is take a breather and collect your thoughts. 
Leave your feedback in the feedback channel. the team reads ALL of it. If you've done that already, awesome. We appreciate you taking the time to do so because we do care about feedback and perspectives that vary from our own.
The community still has guidelines about keeping conversation kind and respectful, and if those rules cannot be upheld then staff or mods may have to intervene, but that's usually a last resort.
the door sounds of prophecy that's what
yeah. krills
In better news, we did fix the geyser event, so check back there in a couple hours 
yes, i was at the lowest bar, and went full cr den got 19 n half i guess? (without trials) i kinda forgot but i am sure its 19, i only have the before n after old rates chevron one, im gonna try to get the before n after one with this rates
all im saying is if there are albino crabs there should be albino krills too 🥺
right when I had to log off
Where did sanctuary spirits sleep?
For a resort and a creature sanctuary it has no man made structures like homes or hotels.....
no specific hour?
haven't catched the event in action yet so i still don't know what exactly do players need to do 
I was taught: if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all, so that's what I did. 
I ran exactly what you said in live today + trails and got 20 candles ( give or take a few light orbs )
DUDE THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
Uzephiiiii what happened yesterday when I left btw
id like to see variations in the krill species tbh 
Even though mantas are like basically good Krills imagine if there was nice Krills that if you got caught it would hit you and refill your light
Krill-utation
I want spirit krills 
mantas r not good, they kidnap me many times in prairie bells 
It was a Friday night, so I don't remember much of it, sorry. 
If there is missing audio for sanctuary islands, submit a bug report. it's entirely possible something broke when we went in to make some adjustments to the geyser event.
on feedback: I have some that I've been slowly working on and it as I have time/energy is like 4x the discord character limit at this point. can I just link a google doc?
Guess I have to ask Emma
Khem
Let me introduce yo to the 3 main species of krills
-wasteland krills
-ark krills
-office krills
-eden krills (most dangerous)
eden? 
Don't forget Eden
you can post links in feedback. it can be a simple .txt file so you don't have to go to great lengths with a google doc.
I want krills in sanctuary to eat the mantas we already have wasteland water there
they can make it golden sanctuary
Oh that's right
is a screen recording with the in-game audio needed? (if i come across missing audio myself) since i can't catch in-game audio with both sky and my device's screen recorder 
Alright brb gonna post a qr link there 
ope it's already in a google doc 
Wasted sanctuary*
golden sanctuaryland 
dark sanctuary
Ye
Do you want to breed Krills into paradise?
dark sanc sounds like a cool aesthetic omg,,, if dark sanc was a thing i'd record a crime scene there HAJDHSJHDJ
Golden exposuary 
wasted prophecy sanctuary
videos are helpful, but definitely not necessary.
in cases like that, getting the bug report in is the most necessary part.
Speaking of prophecy.
|| anubis is the oracle||
I'm just gonna leave this here
manta mask confirmed
About prophecy its the worst season because fire trial 
dw it's days of nature, it's the trial of broken timer geyser
but theres no worms in sanctuary and i love days of nature because the cape is blue 
Anubis is far more important than we think. I belive we'll see him in a future season once again
my favourite is the broken timer geyser trial, where I met a bunch of afk people and me and the other people partied
cannot confirm we pushed them in the geyser
i hope there is a season all questgivers come back
because i want bonfire
I actually have an idea for that
Season of origin.
A season where we learn about the path the QGs walked before they became a QG. For example we learn how anubis studies in the vault and stumbles upon the ancient prophecy and then goes to isle.
Or how the enchantment guide is boarding the rescue ship.
Or how the sanctuary guide ||is selling tickets for his resort ||
Which identity do you hold right now? I'm confused
Ignis the theoriser
#wishlist-and-ideas-archived and #seasons-events-chat might be good for that
sanctuary: stonks
You know me as Aenon the Beta tester in this chat, but you know my other identity outside this chat. Is that right?
Anon the sky child
Is sanctuary questgiver sad that sanctuary is becoming wasteland 
Aenon the arsonist?
no, wait, that's my other personality
I think TGC is gonna do a number on us and make it ark
A resort for krills not manta 
My other identity's "Aenon the Village Phoenix", Ignis
Call me arsonist again and I'll call Shiro over here
He doesn't know bcuz he's too busy admiring the bells
Man I wanna join the roleplay but it's offtopic 
We'll get to that another time.
Let's just focus on Beta rn
ping me in #seasons-events-chat when you dooo thoughh just not at 12am
Can we talk how fun the pinwheel spell is and putting pinwheels in crabs 
WAIT THEY CAN STICK ON CRABS??
TGC MAKE THIS A THING
oh man, first feast table to eat seemed fancy, now crabs change colours, and now pizza cutters are in sky
I'm not sure if it's a good idea
I flip the crabs and stick them on crabs to make rainbow crabs 
I like how they spin faster if they're placed next to a windwall
Where will you find a windwall in Sanctuary?
SKYBOT!!!
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
I put them in wasteland and they didnt spin 
The only thing that doesn't feel natural for me is it's colouring. Especially the red and blue parts
But we have blue and red capes 
how to make energy but with mini wind turbines
Idk... The tone is not it or maybe the fact that they're next to each other. However it feels like something from office rather than something from sky
Not you Skybot.
i like them they are cool
i just wish we can put them on krills it would be cute
Do you want to lose WLs?
Deli is talking about decorating while Ignis has ideas and meanwhile I'm starting a business
I have finally submitted my first feedback in weeks
and with that I think ima go awol again. I've talked more today than I have in like a month and I'm worn out. don't let your feedbacks pile up like me 
I genuinely wish stuff would stick to moving objects. Not only the pinwheels but also other props.
Like I remember placing my torch on the river rocks and it didn't stick to the rock and stayed mid air
Same because i want to put my seesaw on the invisible boat and not have it slide away 
Speaking of the river.... Y'all noticed the similarities between it and the attractions in disneylands called "lover tunnels"???
first let's wish that skids can stick to moving objects, krills for example
I wish we can ride krills 

use them to win valley races
Ahaha yeah
It resembles those slow rides at amusement/water parks 
I love it
You know the swans that slowly go around on a river and passes a dark tunnel on its way. Kiss tunnel or lovers tunnel
i want swans in sky
and ducks
It reminds me of lazy rivers at water parks like Hurricane Harbor.
One I feel like it's safe to assume that the threehouse was supposed to be the Disneyland of sky
Imagine if the swings were more rollercoaster like instead of a swing. 
No the trials
air trial is like a rollercoaster and fire trial is a haunted house
||there are actual devs that are fans of disneyland and mention about it in interviews. I don't know which but I remember there are||
I thought we could play music while sitting on it and then it got patched so now I think my money was a waste
You jamming out while we are on a rollercoaster ride would be epic.
and then your whole neighbourhood loses power for 10 seconds
i wish i got the swings not the seesaw because i thought u cant swing with crabs but can seesaw with them but u can swing with crabs to
but seesaw is cool for oob
Totally worth it. 
IGNIS, care to join the rollercoaster topic?
it better not be IAP or else
IGNIS, are you there?
probably lurking 
It would cost 22 hearts. 
22 hearts? I can't even force my friends to be online rn
leaves
so there's no way u can interact with ur friends non-functional props? like the hoop? 
Not at the moment but its listed in #beta-known-issues so is probably being looked into 
Message link: #beta-known-issues message
kai, are you still awake?
Better not be
It's super late now.
That messsage seems to state that it’s an expected/intentioNal thing more than an issue :’(
Usually those are marked as '
Not a Bug:' rather than the '🔹' 
anyone know how long the wait for geyser quest?
is it intended that i sit there, doing nothing, for like half an hour?
i suddenly got an idea for that hexagon summoning circle item thingy
When we place the item it should always get placed infront of us and it should give us a speed boost/push(like those small gate like things in flying race does) when we pass through it
this is not too overpowered and it's quite fun 😅
please send that to #beta-feedback
yes great idea!
Is there a wing light in office? I can hear one but I can't seem to find anything 
Edit: Apparently it was a bug, I went home and when I came back I didn't hear it anymore
Have somebody notice that. The wax you got from geyser depends on which person burn it. I'm on 3 chevron but I got tiny wax like you just have one chevron left.
Is it intended or bug
Uh I'm still pretty new to beta so idk if this is important but has anyone else noticed a bug when you sit? I can only do the first seated pose but when I click it again to lay down I stay sitting
@reef axle yep that's a current bug, kindly report it in the beta bug report channnels 
Ah okay ty 💛😊
i wish invisible cape cost 999 ac instead 
hell no
what should cost 999 AC should be the eden crown 
How about a 999 ac krill cape 
i think krill cape should be part of any incoming season, spiky spiky dark cape
sounds like for halloween event item thing
krill cape with a spiky tail like the manta cape would be amazinggg 
Ngl I really hope for some Día de los Muertos (Day of the Death) inspired cosmetics 
Oooooo yes it would be beautiful
oh wow 3 krills already in office
Hii guys how does the camera in the office work?
Hello where is the geyser event on beta im so confused im in the islands rn in prarie
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
are u playing beta can we play the event
On Previous beta days, I remember reading that there's a progress wipe around Lightseekers? Or Belonging? Does that mean "back-to-zero" kind of progress wipe or "back-to-zero-but-you-get-to-keep-your-items-and-emotes" kind of progress wipe?
We keep our friends and beta cape if u have it but lose everything else
Ohhh, I see.
we actually don't know if we would keep our founders/beta cape. that was given to players after the first progress wipe
We will know what happens when we get another progress wipe 
i would like to know this too
idk how to start it
The geyser is having problems, check #beta-known-issues
oh, alright, let me go try it out :o
out of curiosity, does anyone find the tier 2 black cape abit similar to the ultimate gift cape in dreams? The black portion with the gold outline.
Dream is 'red'
Good afternoon!
Why TGC don't make the seasonal quest event have repeatable cutscene? Like after you finsh the last cutscene on dream you can watch it again.
Cuz you can't say goodbye over and over
Like relieving sprit memory. Why you can relieving that seasonal quest memory. Imagine you didn't screenshot on last quest of cutscene in season of sanctuary
ohman i just redid the sanctuary quests again today...i felt that 
To actually repeat it you need alternative account which is breaking tos in some sort according I reach out thathelpbot or beta account
I think it was feedback that made the changes for dreams seasonal quest repeatable. please note enchantment, sanctuary and prophecy were before dreams. (I personally loved the screenshot in sanctuary and I was caught off guard too XD)
Yea dreams was the first one to have that iirc
final cutscenes not maybe but normal ones yes
I thought the screenshot will be automatically saved in scantuary T^T
correct me if i'm wrong coz I can go in the final cutscenes as well when I mediate at that white circle in stadium though...
Final sanctuary scene i was working and dragged by friends, only saw what they shared to me🥲
I remember i did the final dance twice in Dreams Live

I mean the when you finsh a quest that cutscene should repeatable
Isn't Dreams like that?
or u mean for older seasons?
That's the mission it self. I mean after you finish the quest and go to the dream qg cutscene
Disabling all cutscenes option when?
Oh like when u click on the quest node it didn't give camera panning to the target? Probably because the season is already over eh
I think cutscenes are important for first time experience
Yes, everytime when I first play Beta all cutscene are not skip able
For first time experience
Beta, We already are sky veteran. first time experience. Well , most of them are sky veteran
I mean option for both live and beta
when
I do not appreciate having my camera stolen everytime i accidentally lit a bell 
Oo right i meant because we already experience it, i think giving cutscenes again would make people complain 
pretty much no one likes the camera panning I think. I personally hate it when my camera pans away
Obviously, we play it thousands of times
I actually play beta because AP and IAP cosmetics. At least I can experience it 
Wait i thought u want to have more camera panning?
I feel really bad for you 😔 
Oooo that oneeeeee yea I don't like it either
I thought this was about seasonal quests:SkyDeepBow:
Testing is pretty fun and funny because you can encounter funny bugs like the prophecy guide flipping 
I think you need to look for the trigger point as in... each seasonal quest cutscene is located differently. like there is a girl in stadium as well to trigger other seasonal quest cutscene while the final cutscene is via meditation at stadium
Did beta people got 2 seasonal hearts as compensation or what?
I completed everything and was on 0 snl hearts and now it's 2 extra
ktjn mentioned that she was able to change something without needing to bother the engineers so people could now get the cape if they had previously spent hearts on the pot while it was 3 hearts; i'm guessing she set the cape's latest cost (in beta) to 0 hearts so that you could immediately claim it if you'd unlocked the bugle (which would mean that if you only started buying the ultimates after that change, you'd wind up with 2 extra hearts at the end)
I opened the app with the speed of light, little did I known nothing was waiting for me there....
Nope, 0 hearts for me
||at least I got the mask in live||
I have two extra because i got the trumpet before all ults were added and i didn't buy any ults from before 
Give. Now
no
Same here except I had bought the pot before the update 
The extra seasonal heart will turn to normal heart when the season is over?
i got the pot, cape and bugle while it was still two ults (i.e. while the bugle was still on a regular seasonal spirit), so my final result is that i'm somehow missing just the mask 
I hope in the next live patch update they'll include the last three tier 2 capes
I finally know krilltjn is she
Well, the game still crash when trying to link Nintendo Account
If this happens I'll get white and black capes and my max wl will be 170
I mean they have to update the live version because of the updated prop items and they must include those tier 2 capes 
this isnt beta related but i just read a post from netease's official sky account that theyve banned 600k accounts due to violating TOS... kinda wish we can see the statistics for global ver too 
I'd really love it if everytime a person I reported gets banned I receive a notification or some message of sorts
yeah, or if i friended them before and checked on them through constellations, the text bar below states smth like "you cannot interact with this user as their account has been suspended"... hmm
And if there would be a reward for everytime you successfully reported a hacker their kind would be wiped out immideately (+ much more false reports ofc)
Sky: bounty hunters
It’s not the purpose of the game tho. I think rewarding it would create a witch-hunt with ppl reporting a lot of innocent players too. The fear of being reported could make some of them very uncomfortable and I doubt that’s something anyone would want.
flashbacks when studying witch trials... yeah, that might not be a good idea...
So is the geyser event now working? It says fixed in known issues?
It should be working now, yes.
witch hunt doesn't sound that bad if you think from the hunter's perspective

Jk, understandable
One question, can we send pics in the feedback channel? I sent a feedback with one but didn’t get a notification from skybot...
Yes you can. I've personally sent a lot
The thing with Skybot might be a connection issue.
