#beta-discussion
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i force stopped sky beta for like the third time and now it finally worked
thank you luka
Does anyone here know how many wl there are in the new season?
nope not at all
Awe, thanks anyways
i just got the season cutscene so im practically clueless 😭
There’s 2 wl rn
Where is the wls? I found one in the basement but couldnt find the other one
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
oh ok hi sky moth-
I totally love the jump the river emote, i couldnt swim like a half and a year and it felt great even it was virtual 
Guys I can't claim the children in thr treehouse is this normal help?
i think thats a bug-
Can you explain more what is happening?
the new wl that was added in the build not registering is mentioned in #beta-known-issues
Ok so I finally started on the first Assembly quest, but I gave up halfway bc I don't have enough winged light to survive the rain and burn the really tall plant
Oh, they meant the winglights?
i relate to this badly
I only got three assembly emotes so far, the marching, scolding and the facepalm (facepalm is my favorite)
there are 6 emotes btw
i know all the locations
it wasnt that hard to find them tbh
SIX? I thought there were four!
One is in a hole on a tree to the right when u enter the treehouse area
nope! there are six and i ADORE all of them like skdjgkjfg i love this season
Hi where is the new winged light pls..
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
I can't believe it's only a few days left until the real deal comes out
The winged light in the treehouse area doesn't count up in thw wing count. I just read #beta-known-issues so it's alright now
yeahh im super excited eeeee
I just hope for a big Live patch just before...

I feel like a lot of accessibility users are going to be happy about this
eee
am i the only one who still can't download the beta on android 😔 i know it's full i joined it. i just can't download :c
its full right now
also i had to keep refreshing the page before i got it to work
ummm idk why you cant download it
it still says it's full on google play 😔😔
Hi guys is it only 2 new winglight added?
uhhhjjh click the link from the beta invites ???
and yeah there are only 2
And no new candle added right?
it says welcome to the test program and tells me to download it but i can't 🤔
No candles.
yeah i have no idea 😔 i just got beta recently so i dont have much knowledge about this
it's ok! thanks for trying to help lol
you're welcome 😔👍
i literally just went into the instrument thngjtrh(customizing place) and omg- there are a lot from the season-
was the afk thing beta-exclusive? and it's gone now, right?
its not gone for me?
a post in #beta-announcements said it enabled light collection while afk, so i got confused
ohhhhhhhh, i dont think that means the actual afk animation is gone-
There are always changes and new things being tested in beta. That's why it's not always a good thing that people share on social media, because it can create a "panic", like we saw with the afk thing.
oops, i don't think we're talking about the same thing. i was referring to the light collection while afk
yeah idk im just, confused 😔
the afk thing used to disable afk players from collecting light/wax when it was introduced. now you can collect light when you’re afk
so it's gone, basically?
kind of, yeah, they added zzz’s when a player’s afk 
yeah because thats what i thought you meant- that the "zzz's" were gone
ah, i wasn't aware they added an idle animation, sorry for the misunderstanding
When u have to do the hand wave quest and none of your friends is online 
Do you have multiple google accounts? Make sure you are signed in on google play with the same email that is registered as a tester. Otherwise you may just have to keep waiting 😢
but, why add wax collection when afk again? does not make sense to me after the explanation they gave about collecting when afk...
ok so i posted in the looking for group chat but i feel like not many people look there so can anyone help with the first seasonal quest? (the one where u gotta collect the pieces) ty!
i do have multiple accounts but i'm sure it's the right one
yeah but like what if you're doing cr with a friend and they have to go afk, it would suck if they didnt get to collect the wax :/
oohh i see
also i have no idea how to even do the quests or where they are 😂
you need to visit the guide in the tree house (before you properly reach forest as youre flying down) :)
oh okie, i havent been in forest after i got the cutscene so i didnt know it was there xd
haha thats ok wanna do them together?
You should get a cut scene as you go through the portico from Forest social space.
also
'2 devices' 😳
is that even allowed-
lmao you need two im fairly sure to do the beta friend thing
well i mean- is it allowed-
to have 2 devices in beta
??
as in you need one to scan the qr with
for it to work
not like two devices with beta
Actually I've found the QR link to work quite well, also my friends
Didn't have issues with it lately, just tapping the link works
Or screenshot the qr and import
okay
OHHHHHHHHH well yeah i have like 3 devices with me right now so im all good
The things from shop can only be bought once?
I’m doing the vault for the first time in beta and I’m gonna get my favorite voice
I’m coming to get you, star manta 
I have a question please : IAP in ||the office|| are also free ?
Ohhh amazing !
Thank you for your reply
All IAP in beta is free.
i still can't download it from google play 😔😔 why does it take so long
I have to do everything from the beginning? Constellations, everything?
Welcome to beta
😂😭
Yes you become a moth again ! 
Yeah...
BUT I’M SO CLOSE TO FINISHING THE VALLEY CONSTELLATION A SECOND TIME
Thanks 👍
Well, you don’t “have to”, but it’s kinda “fun to”.. plus the testing
setting up a new kid is a fun project 
It's amazing to become again moth and discover for a second time the story of Sky 
Also, at anytime they can just reset any progress we have made.. so there’s that as well. (Not happened so far to me)
I already have all the spirits of the constellations and I have gone to Eden! 🥰
Thanks friends!!!
I’m doing Eden for the first time here, wish me luck 
||see you all on the other side of eden||
Don’t think much needs to be hidden in beta channel.
Good luck ! I will also going in beta Eden for my first time, later in the day 
Is it worth trying to do the 8 person puzzle in beta?
it depends on u, if u willing to wait then u may wait,
but I would suggest u may do 8 ppl door during reset, during the time have more players and faster to wait.
Thats kind of what I thought. Thanks!
@zealous dew as of right now, yes, because they don't cost any seasonal candles + assembly questgiver will be staying after the season ends. though of course there might be some changes as the season is still undergoing beta testing 
👀
I didn't think about that before but that's really cool! Can't wait to see post-assembly moths with little backpacks. 
I'm surprised that noone has made the fox studio into theme with the trumpet 
I'm gonna do this and the animal crossing new horizons theme as soon as I get it

I saw gourmet race once and I couldn't be prouder of this community 
Gourmet race ! start gourmet race’s music
You can either wait for google or wait for the next wave, like me, i still can't download it 
Is there someone know that why I couldn't see the beautiful tree at home?
The blossom tree is not here anymore in home
Hi! I'm a newbie, but I'm happy for everyone! and ... I don't know what else I can say ಥ‿ಥ
Hello everyone 
I have come back from my slumber
Really? Didn't it and in April 4th?
Guess i should stay away from this channel to avoid spoilers, guess i'll wait for the next wave since google is as slow as when crab call returns 
I don’t have the tree too so idk 
Hello everyone,
I joined last beta invite on android, and didn't get the abillity to download the app yet. So, lacking patience to just wait, I tried to contact google's customer support, and they told me to contact TGC. Does anyone know whether this is just Google not wanting to support or whether it could actually help to contact TGC (if I understood the google support correctly, the explanation was that there were not enough spaces available for the app. But I don't want to send useless questions to them, as I still think it's google's problem...)?
if you're on android, google takes from minutes to hours to weeks to download beta
some people entered in prophecy beta for example, new invites came and some never even got to download beta for prophecy
so patience 
sorta same for me T^T i just keep missing waves and by the time i contact my beta freind its full (also ello ma beta peeps)
I wonder is it alright to post our Photo in Beta at our social Media Facebook/Twitter/Instagram ?
Is this even allowed ??
The wave is full. You probably didn't get in on time
you'll have to wait for another wave
I did join, the link says I'm a tester...
Yep same here
TGC provides the game and invites
after that, it's absolutely google's matter if it takes a while to download it
so be patient, if you are a beta tester, one day google will open for you to download
it's just like that, it works for some and not for others, so patience 
so there is a chance i will never get to download it? 😭
I'm pretty sure it's allowed, just put beta spoilers
Alright thanks for answering ^^
it is, but it would be kind of you not to, since some people don't want to be spoilered, no? 
It’s seems to be so complicated for Android testers 
yes 😭 i wish i was on ios
also my beta freind said that another wave isnt in a while is that true??
Yeah, not for several months I think
Oh, it's a pity that I didn't have time to become a beta tester ╥﹏╥
you guys are so cool:pSkyLove:
perhaps 
but maybe you might get to download it like, tomorrow, who knows?
google is google after all, and it's quite the meme around beta testers 
When you're on ios u can easily get beta but can be removed, android can't get in but can't get removed 
Yes in iOS is really easy ! I’m sorry for you android testers, I hope everything will be fixed for you 
hah, I have Android
Question: why would you be removed? I'm a beta moth 
beta invites are distributed when there's a shortage of testers
for example, the invites for dreams lasted until the middle of assembly testing, and now we got another wave
i have ios and everything its just my luck it sucks
Ah right, so far i only share them with my beta friends in discord, thought even in Facebook, they wont be able to see, as long they aren't my friends , it is limited to Friend only
Is it just me, or the cutscene bug is back at it again? The forest cutscene as in once upon a time, a lonely scout cutscene.
Which cutscene ? Oh I see
Saying about cutscene.. i forgot to check the Cutscene at Praire temple. Does the Purple Temple been fixed ?
every new wave, everyone is kicked out from beta testing
this happens so TGC can rotate the players that really want to test and the spoiler leeches
if you want to enter beta, you have to refresh your invite every wave 
I've got it a few times but I usually just go around the area where it triggers now
another one for the "weird cr route because of dodging glitches" category
Hey! And in the new season, we will also need to collect candles, right? And I heard that the tasks will change somehow !
Oh, also, if anyone of you spot my kid drowning in the forest, leave it alone lol I want to try capeless 
sorry
It's not really prohibited at all, but be sure to make "beta spoiler disclaimer" first, out of respect to your followers who doesn't wish to be spoiled but wanna support you 😉
Alright ^^
I will always put that Warning first ^^
Cool cool 😊
does the cushion thing have any practical use?
Ah- the Cutscene in Praire still Purple--
And done with teh report for today
Hmm is there only 1 new winged light?
where do you meditate on boat in the quests??? im confused
wasteland shipwreck
This is a late reply but this has changed! Only inactive iOS testers get kicked out now, so as long as you are actively testing you have nothing to worry about
Invite waves are also no longer tied to seasons and can happen at any time if they need more active testers
i cant decide on finish animation meme or break beta for bug reports 
ohh this is interesting, thank you for updating me 
(also, you and anyone else too, don't worry about pinging me when needed, or even just trivially
)
don't worry about breaking beta
just give it some time and it'll break itself without asking for it 
Hey. When i just start in beta. Are all of the realms invisible to me.?
when you start beta, you start over, since live and beta are completely seperate apps
Whew. Thanks
Break Beta is fun. But also hard because you need to know what thing can break the game
i’m going on an oob hunt in treehouse area 
anyonee?
Plot twist
The bookshelf, the pillow thing and the hoop hexagon won't have a functionality at all
Anything that doesn't have a functionality by now won't have any at all
Not right now, maybe in a future patch, but as it likely wont be accessible till the at least second week of the seasons live release they probably won’t prioritize it

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So.. Some of these following stuff still have a mysterious function?
- Bookshelf
- Hexagonal thing
- Sit pillow
- Small barrel thing
Or did I missed something?
Should be about all!
I think they're, (as many times before mentioned) just used for rp or just use our imagination
Tho i did want the shelf to be a portable wardrobe :stickerGloomy:
They won't have a functionality at all. Except maybe for the pot
The light pot and the torch!
I got it today and man! Torch charges you as fast as standing by the winged light!
who knows, maybe TGC have something for us that we never thought about... 
is light pot slower?
Sorry i can't tell. I only have the torch 
ok gonna check it out later
im on a hunt for the new wl, are there only two of them cause if so... then no more hunting ;-;
I was thinking about, and I have in my mind “TGC needs help everyday hunting bugs, and sometimes need and specify help” so why don’t y’all add a channel here and you ask for what you exactly need help! Idk where to put this😕
The patch notes are often posted in #beta-announcements . You can have a look there.'
Someone knows how many hearts needed for the dress please ?
if you want to share your thoughts to TGC, you can give them in #beta-feedback , in the case of beta
the specific help needed are posted in #beta-announcements , as bleptia said. but sometimes ktjn come here in the chat and do a testing request over one or two immediate matters 
15 I think
Alright thanks ! 
Ohh aight, yea I have seen him/her/them, talking here and yeah, thanks y’all for the feedback!💝
Hey, I still can’t find the Assembly Guide... can someone point me in the right direction?
There should be a cut scene playing as you approach the portico from Forest social. Is that not happening?
No, it isn’t, at least I don’t remember... I might have skipped it :I
Make sure you don't press SKIP as you approach it, because it shows you where the opening is.
You have a door for the treehouse (the assembly guide is here) when you flying from the social space to the forest, to the right
As you fly down from Forest social, look to the right for a small opening in the new landscape there.
Ah... I got so used to skipping cutscenes...
I can post screenshots in #beta-screenshots-videos of the treehouse’s entrance if you want !
I’m new to beta, but just tried to submit my first bug reports and had them time out twice. Is there a faster way to submit reports? I only had one screenshot to attach the second time, but it timed out while compressing the file.
I don’t think so :( but I advice you the next time to prepare your written report and your files in advance before start the report
For my part I usually test before if my screenshots / videos need to be compressed
Ktjin, I think what might work is if instead of the seasonal logo, each backpack had the logo of the prop itself... the backpack can stay but the logo should change that way we know what prop we have equipped
Without having to go to the menu and checking
It seems like if there’s only 1 screenshot, it should be pretty simple.
I don’t manage the bugs reports sorry
I’m agree with the idea of vary bagpack’s colors and/or logo ! But don’t forget there is #beta-feedback for that ^^
Did the wl not give any actual wl? I collected two but my wl count didn’t go up
@trim spade #beta-known-issues
is the tea table trick gone in beta? the one where you can use table to fly high
Lol forgot to check thanks
prop teleport has been patched yes
Time to find what broke because of that fix

Is anyone aware why many seasonal props were changed to common backpack?
During its introduction update it was said that more will be revealed about the props in later update.
Is it still awaited?
ktjn mentioned that there's a new feature coming that'll "make a lot of things clearer", I can only guess it has something to do with all the props - let's wait and see what happens in future builds, the backpacks are fitting to the "scouts in forest" theme
They do fit, but I'd prefer it for just one item like tent perhaps. Its still cool to carry a woodtorch, hammock, a big jar etc on the back
Each prop item allows players to express differently and gives different Vibe for players, and that fits the whole theme of sky
Only the new feature could explain more in future?
Can someone tell me where the boat is for the meditation task?
gw shipwreck
Be happy it’s not on top of the boat anymore. 
I would prefer that one on the top and one krill around instead of meditating in the broken temple with all the crabs.
Anyone else still waiting to download the Beta? I'm losing hope 
I remember you had to time your meditation so the krill wouldn’t see you.
wait what does it mean by meditate on the boat for the daily td?-
edit: nvm i read the other stuff- slowmodes killing me-
Same, perhaps i'll have to wait for the next wave, or maybe im never gonna be able to download beta 
So only 2 wing light? Am I correct?
May I get your opinion?! What do you guys think of the Assembly boyish hairstyle that makes any mask useless. I'm just wondering if it can be a bit shorter to not entirely hide mask.
I like the hair! To me it looks really cute and I usually like more long hair that short. Either long bangs or just normal long hair.
I pretty much put the same in feedback. One of the hair is so similar to and looks like extension of shell collectors hairstyle.
Only bandana excites me
It's the hair every boy wore in 2005 tbh 😂
I love it but I'm a bit disappointed we can barely see the ultimate mask with it. 😣
What do u all think about the ultimate gift tree? Paying candles and hearts for some of the items??
I can still see it , tho it should be cut a little bit on the bangs
I'm ok with 4 items. I paid my adventure pass and I want limited items that not everyone can get. If you do your daily quests you willk get everything. 👍
tbh i like the emo hair a lot, too bad it requires adventure pass cus im f2p-
About AFK: our idle Zzz-Friend on our back can still collect light? Or is he not collecting?
just hopping in to ask how many wl we’ve found so far 
So I found out the chevrons go down if the first thing you do when logging in is to do eden and reach orbit---
I dunno how long it took me to do so but I guess I didn't expect that
Yes they can, they enabled wax collection back whike afk on the last update. 👍
How much winged light is new ?
am i the only one who doesn’t like the ultimate mask 😭 i appreciate that it’s obtainable and it’s nice so many people love it but
I love everything as is but I miss the mango cape
naw maybe it wouldn’t hurt to have it sold from another spirit but i’m glad they replaced it
not to sound like a hater
I don’t like it all that much either, but then again Anubis mask being my favourite makes it hard to appreciate this one 
yah i like the kind of simple flat mask with a painted design but the qg mask just looks like a bug to me
The mask looks kind of busy which might not be the right word but yeah, seems like there’s a lot going on on it
The ult mask definitely has a lot going on 
I think it'd be neat if they simplified the paint a little and added points to the side that look like elf ears
Umm, hey y'all? Where or what is "the boat" we are supposed to meditate on?? 🤔
shipwreck area in wasteland! it’s very vague lmao
The Anubis mask is so amazing it's going to be very hard to ever top that! Though, the Phoenix cape and mask are on par 💖
Ooof, I honestly don’t like the dreams cape and mask at all, just like I didn’t like any of the capes in prophecy. I bought the aps for the pants and mask in prophecy and in dreams for the peeking postman’s stuff 
The boat is golden wasteland, upon it there is a krill
The meditation is inside this boat
Bunny rules 🤘
Who will win?
A) a cosmic entity powerful enough to wipe entire kingdoms and has the experience
B) one shiny boi
B) Shiny Boi 💖
They return eternally, you can't beat the power of Light!
hiii
mmh you guys know if props are going to be add some use like the bookshelf (?) or it s suppose to be like that
I think they are staying like that (just props) but anything could happen, this is Beta
You know the pass in Beta is for free right?
nooo sky
Are you even a beta tester?
This is for beta discussion, you shouldn’t be asking this here.
no betaa yes sky
you might be able to find giveaways for passes in #promote-your-sky-content , but generally we aren't supposed to ask for passes, much like how we aren't supposed to ask for hearts
You shouldn't ask peeps here for free stuff (such as pass or hearts) in general, it's against the rules.
I thought you could only access the beta channels when you have the Beta Role (Ping and invites?)
Nope. Anyone can come here and read/send messages
all beta channels, except the invite channels, are accessible for everyone. live players are allowed to look in here and give their own feedback if they want to
Oooh okay, thank you for telling me, peeps.
I lurked and spoke here before I was a beta tester because I'm too impatient
there are lots of lurkers here 
If any of you have the hammock, does it sometimes keep glitching out? Like it disappears and reappears super quickly?
I wonder how many are watching us rn 
Anyone know if the AFK 'Zzz's be seen by grey players? (Lol I mean players who you haven't lit yet)
We can see it from other players, so I’m pretty sure the answer is yes
Yes, players can see
oh yeah, i was having an issue with afk shadows. i could see some, but not everyone. my friend was able to see the z's on a gray player when i couldn't
The Afk Zzz is quite useful tho, why isn't this in Live yet...?
How long has it been in Beta?
Couple of days I think?
since last night
or well, 2 days? beta updates happen way too often for me to keep up
Bc afk isn't live yet I believe
I need those Zzz in Live, I went afk for a little in live and my phone just exploded with aggressive honking, when my friend was trying to get my attention. 
Weren't there 2 new WLs? I can't find them. QAQ
The wls are bugged 
both wl are in the treehouse area, not the treehouses in regular forest. however, they are currently bugged. you can try to collect them if you want though 
there are some screenshots of them in #beta-screenshots-videos
I at least wanted to take pictures of their locations, but I can't even find them.
I got screenshots of their locations, but Idk if it will help you
There’s videos on YouTube already
Check #beta-known-issues
i'm aware of the bug. i reported it last night. i'm not sure if they've fixed it yet though
I knew they were bugged, saw that being discussed when they were added. Anyways, I found them thanks to a video, all the answers were much appreciated.
Afk should never make it to live. Its like they forcing us to be non-afk dksksk
Lol, yeah, isn’t it funny how we’re expected to actually play the game. 
Will this season contain a Home Shrine? It's been sad and lonely only seeing them on the realm hubs, ark and sanctuary.
I miss the portals. Never really use those shrines, tbh.
Where's the meditation place today? what boat?
I ate it 
A whole boat?!
the boat is referring to shipwreck, or crab field. its in wasteland
Tbh I only used these when I was guiding moths who I did not have chat with
smh
I went to wastelands twice cuz of the boat 
I hated it
I have to update the beta twice
ts pls I'm literally the 🤡 right now
the winged lights seem to be registering now
both treehouse wl register now 
It worked out for me because I needed the wl from shipwreck on both versions lol
Can't make price charts for beta, since prices can and will change
just finished my first beta eden run and grabbed that poofy puff poof hair 
^ yeah, the overalls have already moved from facepalm’s tree to giggle’s tree n some blessings have wiggled around
Is water trial difficulty increased?
I tried to do it as a chibi. Couldn't finish after 30 minutes and just gave up.
Shallow water kills u. U slide back into water when respawning and some jumps we need to make are too big for a chibi
Water trial as chibi is just as bad in live
It has always been hard as a chibi
Try holding your taller friend's hands
Yup, you basically can’t do it as chibi without a lot of luck at one point. I remember giving feedback on that when the season was in beta, but perhaps it wasn’t deemed important.
Probably, since it's doable with friends holding hands, and playing with friends is a "more" priority, maybe 
Wow, tgc managed to push me into socialising here as well... 
It's a real shame if someone have smallest height and no friends to do it and they have to use a resize...
I noticed in beta you can’t jump into the water when it goes down (as in live) so it was more difficult to me 
Does anyone know the wl locations for the treehouse?
By the swings and the basement
Oh, by the swings up in the tree and inside the cave in the treehouse, right?
I cant buy the pass in beta rn does anyone know whats wrong
it says "in game purchases arent avadible right now"
I just met a moth in beta, with the new player symbol and everything and I believe they are just starting out but even after they collected stars, I can't see their cape. @haughty vapor came to me and lit them but she can actually see a cape
also if this person happens to be in the server and know it's them, hello lol
You can't buy
Just try to ask your friends/players who already got it. A lot of players have some to be gifted.
there are tons of players who probably have hundreds due to a bug a few months ago. they're just sitting there 
new wl working🌚
How often do progress wipes happen in beta?
progress wipes are extremely rare for beta unless something major is changed in early things like the tutorial and the intro cutscene, since those’d require a fresh, new account
I think the only one I know of was before global release
Before light awaits changed to what sky is now
I guess for that, TGC would just ask for new testers and make an announcement regarding what they wanted to be mainly tested. Right? Kind of like what happened a few days ago, there were most likely updates regarding the cutscenes in the season later on, but since we did them in a week we were not able to redo them.
But I agree with your point though, and it's totally okay if they wipe the progress anytime, since we are just testing, and most likely everything which we've been testing, will be implemented into Live anyways, so it's not much to worry about. Our job as testers is to make sure everything is okay and to catch any weird bugs so Live users don't have issues.
It's also stated in the FAQ that they can reset us anytime.
Yep
Are they trying to change the way light works again I hope it’s not too drastic??
Which light do you mean? The daily light system? The last change in that were 2 updates ago afaik.
Hey which spirits have the music sheets for this season ? I can see one on the Scaredy Cadet, but I haven’t bought enough on the other spirits to see if I have them
iirc the bubble emote one?
Since TGC has to make sure the cosmetics look right before releasing in beta, do you think theres a beta for the beta 
There is a dev build yes 
The things that can be going on in that dev build.... They could have rideable krills, giant cakes giving 100 candles all seasonal spirits are always active... Oof my imagination
want 
need 
Attacko 
That would be awesome! Imagine if Sky was a world where anything is possible with friends
How to tame your dark dragon
"im proud to call you my son, Moff JR." 


We won't have to worry about losing WL anymore
the dev build would only be accessible to around ~20-ish people, i bet a lot of stuff goes on in the dev build
Weird stuff
not really
We can read other people conversation while sitting on the hammock????
Do you have rideable krills? I need to know 
Me running off to go find out
Dev builds are just earlier, less stable versions of live/beta.
that wasnt a no on the rideable krills, ktjn 



Is a lie or legend?
Thanks. I was hoping dev builds would become accessible for us too
i'm sure you could make a rideable krill by turning off the aggro.
SO IS THAT A YES?
P. S. They're not solid tho
dev builds will never be accessible to players, that's not what they are for. they're not super secret extra early access/sneak peaks. thy are for protoyping, testing, and ensuring we don't break the game.
... solid krill
turn on collision. boom.
oh god
Season of darkness for vault.
We learn the ancient forbidden knowledge of riding krill
dev builds have a thing called debugging tools... to find bugs faster so we can fix them.
Krill rider spirit
Attacko wants his krill to be named tribulation! 
hi ktjn sorry if i angered you i'm so sorry aaa
That would be something that might require a sacrifice in exchange for something dangerous
Krill call
Krill cape
also did anyone notice the new winged light started counting toward their cape levels? we rolled out a fix a few hours ago.
yes, they do
anger? gods no
i think someone did, but i have to go to eden to check myself 
i think players tend to have incredibly unrealistic expectations about what it looks like in the middle of the development process.
I think 1 wl for the area is more than enough tbh
would you guys ever make a video showing how it all works?
Thanks, Ktjn. I'll go look for them myself later on
Wing light collected from treehouse area. Working as normal.
Do the symbols representing the 3 threehouses in forest have a hidden meaning?
game dev is more spreadsheets, ugly zoomed out versions of maps with no texture, blocky terrain, crashes, corrupted files, inexplicable phenonmenon, blood, sweat, tears, duct tape, and prayer.
Wait why is there blood? Are y'all okay?
pov: ktjn sends a video but all we see is a ridiculously bright unshaded map
In other words, are they the early ideas for Sky?
blood, sweat, tears is a figure of speech
goodness
where’d the duct tape come from
idk if it's just me but i really wanna work at tgc
Who doesn't..... I'd write seasonal content so good y'all would just.... Chef's kiss
That might just be everyone's dream here
game dev in general is a lot more failure than success, killing ideas that sound fun on paper but end up terrible as gameplay.
my skill in technology comes from my skill in math so rip to me
i actually became interested in computer science because of the beta. even though the actual process to get to a final product can be painful at times 
having elaborate ideas and having to cut them down to bare concepts because of time constraints, technical limitations.
this may seem like a weird question, but do you guys already have the next season planned out? like are you all working on the current one while creating another at the same time?
For the pot please please please take your time and make it functional
I'd love to see it spawning butterflies with hidden mechanic
The colour of your cape is the colour of butterflies you spawn
at any given point we have about 2 years, at minimum, of design direction planned out.
Wow that’s awsome!
ooo so much content to look forward to!

wait that’s really cool omg
not all the props are meant to be functional.
might seem a weird question, but i know nothing about programming. So i’m curious, are those tools developed by you all?
What percentage of that design would hit live do you think?
Bookshelf mystery solved
they have a purpose, but not necessarily a function. it'll make more sense soon, i assure you.
So many questions in beta discussion channel now 
Bookshelf is krill shield 
that's incredibly hard to quantify and not really an answer i can give because we won't know until we have deadlines to meet.
game dev is like... 1% ideas, and 99% work making it come to life.
Would tgc ever consider bringing back aviary?
also, i magically got my winged light back, no eden required. 
probably not, it was scrapped for a reason, however elements of how aviary made people feel have been trickled into the game over time in other ways
P. S. I just love these q and a sessions with devs

I've noticed a lot of leftovers from light awaits, such as the broken pot in prairie caves
You mean you dont add krills at the map randomly for fun? 
You guys should be more known, you work a lot and make a lot of effort to make your games more fun for us, and listen to our feedback, thank you so much for what you do

Do devs have a map of the current world? Like a full map of all realms together.
I'd buy that as a mech tbh
light awaits = children of the light. it was literally the same game files published to two apps. we changed the name before global launch and retired the old app/name.
Small Easter eggs are pretty cool here and there. I personally love the ones about journey and flower 
there are concepts and old maps pinned in #lore-discussion-spoilers i believe. you can also see versions of them in the office
Office~ 
Was there a reason for the name change ?
Even though light awaits is gone, it's very nice to see how much sky has grown
yes, but again, before my time.
that one gold pot in vault always bugs me but i would never want to get rid of it
I feel heartbroken

Wait really? I never saw light awaits cause I'm sure I would want some thing back 
But to think it's the same game, and how people say a lot of things changed... like what now, 70% of it? That's pretty incredible 
Yes I've seen them. But they're not really accurate.
When deciding a new season's location do devs use or draw maps? To locate them best?
I think u already know where I'm going with this question))))
light awaits was a limited available test version of the game, slightly more polished than beta, but not by much.
Oh yes, what is it actually? 
if memory serves it was an old quest
Yea
it was an old daily quest. so was the easter eggs, and apparently a well in forest? lots of old quests
i don't really understand what you mean by this or where you're going with it.
There was a load of old quests in light awaits
A lot of them still in-game as fragments and just decoration
Will there possibly be a patch just before Assembly starts in Live? I’m a little worried about its state, I hope it happens...I bet it will.
do we have concepts of content? yes, that's literally the point of concept work before involving hundreds or thousands of hours of work.
Am I the only one? I just realised that there’s a translator in beta, is there one in live too?
That's interesting
I also had the pleasure to be testing when the old collect the light quests appeared by mistake in beta. The ones in prairie where you got one candle each, it was fun while it lasted :pWow:
@crude turret, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
I wrote several feedbacks on this. It's just i don't find the new seasonal location fitting on the map vell...

The season has 4 entrances all leading to opposite directions. And it connects the very beginning of the forest to it's end.
It should have a very long tunnel systems which we don't get to see...
lots of old, scrapped, inactive stuff lives in the game code because it's safer to leave it there to ensure things remain stable.
the fairy circle in prairie was also a daily quest back then. i wish we could do something with it
It will be great to carry a torch everywhere
is it possible to have it on its own instead of a backpack?
How should I know that I'll get the invitation for the beta version?
Invisible boat mystery solved ☑️
Question about the ts
Have prophecy spirits been added to the pool yet? Some people say they're added when assembly starts, so I'm not sure
You guys ever considered a season in eden? 👀
I feel like you're trying to trap me some weird "got ya" moment, ignis. when it just sounds like you don't like something and need a reason to justify your dislike. it's okay to not like something purely because you don't like it. your feelings are valid without some kind of external justification, if that makes sense?
I heard about it
As I don't know how coding or game developing works, I presume you just roughly "block" them inside the codes but sometimes when you fix something somewhere completely unrelated to it, it somehow triggers one or two things and "unblock" it, like how it might have happened that time
It's kind of a funny thought, how you open a box and close another automatically and without wanting to, in a sense :SkyLOL:
none of the sanctuary ones have even come yet, so i think the sanctuary ones have just been added, and the prophecy ones will come after assembly
The old quests have been mentioned many times here, disabling things are way safer than completely deleting them.
Prophecy might start being available in live and beta around when assembly starts... or was it by the very end of dreams? Someone in here or #questions-and-help might know
nothing is outside the realm of possibility, only limit is time, technical aspects, and our imagination.
sometimes it's as simple as a missed checkbox in a spreadsheet.
I mean I do dislike it im just trying to explain why 
I realise my feedback may sound negative, but I'm only doing it in to help improve.
i believe what ignis was trying to ask about was whether the devs have a 2D or 3D visualisation of how all the map areas for a level fit together geographically, because the way forests's sub-areas connect together seems a little bit confusing and hard to map out onto real 3D space
Why not take longer between seasons to ease up the pressure of time limits? It would give more time to work on things while taking off some of the stress that comes with it?
Perhaps TGC can please consider using the land from Light Awaits and bringing them to Sky
We just discussed light awaits
Light awaits topic is slightly above, if you want you can back read it 
English is my 3rd language so I may express myself poorly sometimes. Thank u for explaining my thoughts 
I respect you knowing three languages, I only know english 
There are 'magical doors' at Home that take us to all the realms
I dont think 2D/3D visualisation is needed, the Treehouse area is separated anyways
A longer interseason would be beneficial in many ways; I’m sure people would be fine waiting a little longer.
And yet none of you have bothered to learn attackonese for me! 
sky takes place in a fictional world, it doesn't have to make 1:1 logical sense or abide by the same rules of physics as the real world. it's a concept called suspension of disbelief. it's the same reason we enjoy stories with dragons and unicorns in them.
...iirc, meaning ‘forgetting things aren’t real to immerse yourself’?
I do it a lot.
probably phrased it awkwardly though
Not forgetting
human brains naturally look for patterns to help make sense of things, but it often means finding patterns that don't exist. similarly in data, correlation does not equal causation.
Ktjn is giving us life lessons 
Surely, geography is quite an important thing to consider. I find really neat how in prairie we go slightly to the right and then in birds nest we go down in the clouds, then even more down in sanctuary, to the seas
But yes, not everything have to make sense, or it really can't have sense or it isn't needed at all. Like I dare you to explain the geography in fire trial :SkyLOL:
But it would be really tricky to make "sense" in forest since it's literally a corridor... in another example, in valley. Village of dreams connecting to the Coliseum looks beautiful to me, geographically speaking considering the main realm
I'm sorry I'm rambling things again :stickerUmm:
it's basically what you're doing when you go "oh, it would be cool to fly like that" when you're playing the game, rather than going "hang on, that's not how the laws of physics work, the kid isn't even aerodynamic!
"
Like when u look at that one pic of a cat walking up/down the stairs and u dunno which direction its going and dammit cat why do u make it so difficult 
It's a extent of the ability to break the norms of reality
This isn't jut a story, you're playing as a character
That already makes it a lot more immersive
Exactly!
But isn't Light Awaits the first step to creating Sky as we know it today?
I love how the treehouse connects three maps, it feels magical
Honestly I find it really interesting and instructive having talks in here
I just get a little too excited sometimes tho, so if I do please warn me :stickerUmm:
I feel the same
Speaking of dream's.
Before it if I were to draw a map of valley it would be more so straight.
After dreams the line turns into an arrow. This works because in flying and sliding races we do see a slight tilt.
However I still believe maps should be placed in locations where they belong. Being fast and easy access shouldn't be a priority in these specific cases
In some alt universe, ktjn is a therapist, and a community manager on the side. Let that sink in.
Yes, what about it? 
it's why people assume the gratitude spirit with the white cape isn't eligible to be a TS even though we've said many, many times in official spaces all spirits are eligible. but because of bad rng we're accused of withholding that spirit. sure we could force that spirit to come to appease the masses, but that's not how the system was designed. same thing for traveling spirits that have items the coincide with the thatskyshop merch as some kind of "secret hint" of the upcoming TS. when the reality is they are two completely different completely different teams of people making decisions without communicating with one another and the timing or coincidence of either groups plans. if we tried to coordinate around making accidental coincidences, we'd never get anything done.
Journey is the first step technically
Also not to crash the convo, but how many new wls are there? Six charges gets me now where far enough ngl
Just a quick quetion
Maybe you guys should remove any spirits who've appeared at least twice to make room for new ts to show up
The toxicity between users on gen chat around when umbrella ts came, and it's streak of ts and coincidences in #news was... quite something
i have a background in psychology and sociology, so you're not far off. it's why i tend to mention the behavior players tend to exhibit is just normal behavior patterns that tons of research publications can be dug up if one were so inclined to study deeper.
I'd love to see some hints and hidden messages tho
I think TGC should be able to give new players here a chance to experience what Sky felt like in the past (the colliseum for example). It must have also been nostalgic for those who played old Beta before. It's only my suggestion, but it's up to TGC to make the final decision
Omg attacko jinxed it 
I don't understand why people are even complaining
Like I sorta understand if this one spirit has showed up for you once before
But a lot of other people haven't seen it
If it's a spirit they don't like, they're still getting a wingbuff and a heart
youtube is honestly the best place for this. we're not a giant studio like blizzard with a large enough fan base to support something like wow classic so people can go back to how they remember the game in 2004.
People focus on the negativity which just sucks 
sure that stuff would be cool, but that stuff doesn't pop into existence out of thin air or for free
Yes, there's truly a lot of people that did play in light awaits and would love to see things coming back, as well as new players that never experienced it
And too, the old and cloudy Coliseum before dreams was pretty cool, and if I had to chose between both, I couldn't
Yet, this is a live game and things appear, go, change and I try to be satisfied with pictures and videos in YouTube, along with all the various interesting stories that we hear players talking about :pWow:
For example I'd like to have a season with much more complicated puzzles scavenger hunts and secrets and stuff we need to figure out.
I loved the enchantment and sanctuary quests for this reason
You have a point. I think we just have to wait and see what changes will be made in the future
I feel like pushing the game back because it used to be like that may be counterproductive in the games development and confusing for newer players
The ppl i know personally have issue with the fact that the items were available for purchase and it wasnt a cheap thing. Fluffy cape spirit i mean.
Same with respect, but it literally came back
that's somewhat of a personal hangup though because we communicated clearly that those things could be obtained through gameplay at a later date, so if people still chose to spend money, that is a personal decision.
For example everyone knows vault season is on the horizon
Maybe the tasks can be scattered jn realms? Gather knowledge for vault from realms.
Like discover and restore ancient murals for that you first need to collect flowers petals then make ink then paint the wall
And for the season finale you put the puzzle together by assembling hints from the murals and opening some sort of portal or a door or unlocking a hidden part if vault with ancient secrets etc.
i personally think bringing back the old game design and light awaits would kinda defeat the whole purpose of sky itself. we are in it for the journey and memories, and what makes a memory special is not living it again, but carrying that moment on. if you relive that memory time and time again, it will slowly lose value and it’s full purpose.
i get that people join later and did not experience the older versions, but that’s part of a journey itself. it doesn’t matter when you join, as long as you make memories and keep moving forward.
it's the same for people who choose not to buy the AP, and instead wait for traveling spirits to appear later. the game is free to play, spending money is 100% voluntary choice.
I think I saw that happening once
There's this company that makes this rpg game called dofus
The company, ankama, made it like 10 years ago, and as we could presume, it changed nearly everything between the years
At certain point, they launched "dofus retro" along with "dofus", so very old players could play again and feel nostalgic
Again, the very company is much bigger than TGC, and they managed to gather a lot of money from donations to make a season "4" of their main animation series in like a week.
Again, money and time is everything in these matters...
I'm literally fine with any ts
I get a new expression, wingbuff, and heart
If any of the spirits I like are a ts/are a ts again, I'm gonna be very excited
All spirits are equal, none are good or bad
People just can't realize that
even i, who joined global release date would like to go back and explore the realms the way they used to be. but to me that would ruin it because it will no longer be a beautiful memory
Don't forget the effort they put into it
it's easy to forget that any game ( or any creative endeavor) is made by humans who have the same basic needs as you do...food/water/roof over their head/bills paid and so on.
but i thought this game was made by a bunch of krill 
Sky doesn't have adds and is completely free. Don't ever forget that when playing among us
randomly passing cuz wow the discussion here is really nice to read 
It would also be boring for devs if they werent allowed to redesign a few areas
I agree with you as a Player of Sky since the Android global release
Working with games is not all rainbows and happiness as people might think, it's as respectable and needed as any other work, in a sense, I think
WHERE'S THE LIE

Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
krills gotta eat too 
Can we make home space more interactive? Some benches or something where we can chat much like the treehouse area? It's the first place we visit when ee start playing and i met so many people in the homespace using chat tables. Would be great to be able to chat freerly. Maybe some floating island above the island idk.
Bring in the sacrificial moff
O devs o mighty, we bring you this sacrifice in hopes of an underwater season
Ideas are always welcomed and considered in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived! 
I would love that. There's not much to do in the current home space anyway
Its not my fight tbh. However i can understand the frustration on their side, same with ap spirit stuff which doesnt mean i necessarily agree with them. Also i learned my lessons a while ago to read every offical text very thoroughly and if i miss a detail i accept that it was my fault not noticing something . I was still a moth when that happened and didnt like the items enough to buy them anyways, but its a topic which is hard to avoid if someone plays with older players.
i remember seeing discussion in the server some time ago where the general gist was that chat benches were removed from the home space, because it caused players to loiter around too much at home without actually going into the worlds -- not sure how true that is
iirc, the reason why home space doesn't have chat benches is because a new player could have a bad first experience with another player. that's why prairie is the first place where you can find chat benches. however, i would like more to do at home too.
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
Skybot this isn't the time 
I loved ths new home expansion. I hoped the tree would stay tho
Also, prairie is actually the first place where you can meet real players when you first start
No? Pardon me then, where it is? :pEyes:
i had a teaparty under the bloom tree recently
maybe there’ll be more things like that
Where the flooded tunnel with the wl? I can't seem to find it....
Skybot I searched the entire map 6 times already
I know why I'm asking
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
I remember seeing moffs in Isle temple and thinking they are bots
nope, you can merge servers right when you start the game for the first time. i've seen brand new moths being born at home sometimes
Isle is just underrated imo, such a pretty desert
Isle is underrated
I once may have tooken a moff straight to water trial 
Will I get kicked out of beta if I can’t play for a few days
Well crap now I wanna take screenshots of me in isle but I don't have the four cosmetics I love the most yet 
Isle is the border village of sky kingdom. The whole kingdom isn't the whole planet.... There might be other kingdoms behind that ocean.... So when u go to isle. Turn around. Look back. Wonder
this chat is always so much more interesting than general lmao
Getting wings of fire vibes
Ktjn disappeared 
sometimes beta chat turns into lore chat, gen chat, text wall chat, the list goes on 
State into the horizon....
As I tend to do 
Really? That's interesting
Tho I don't really like it, I believe isle had to be a fully tutorial area and we would be unable to meet new players there. I was told that when you reach prairie social space you would start seeing old and new players and then unlocking your vision of them in isle.
Well, I think I met players in home when I first started beta so it might be as you say
I really find amusing that mechanic in journey. When you first start you can only meet players in the realm that would be prairie in sky, and even so only new players as well. When you finish the game for the first time you can meet people that also made second runs, or third runs, or 583 runs-
Oh hi 
Imagine some day.... 8th portal appears.... That takes us skids back home where we came from. This kingdom isn't our home
There are usually many, many considerations to be made before a decision is made.
These days I've found this chat more welcoming than gen so I'm more active in here
Funny how the skykid in my pfp is doing that 
Ooooooooooo I forgot about that
i practically live in the beta channels 
beta chat/community has always been (at least for me) the most cozy place to be and talk
Ktjn what was the thing called... Homesickness for a home you can't return, or that was never one in the first place....
Nice, time to become a star again
people from lore channel have entered the chat
A good example that will at the very least make sense to the beta crowd. I probably spent 15+ hours in the last 3 weeks either in meetings to making changes, testing, more changes, retesting, reverting, changing another way, and so on just for the Assembly Guide's friendship tree.
Wdym? I've been here 
Ktjn please kindly correct Assembly's Guide name in Portuguese localization, I've already submitted 5 bug reports 
what's wrong with it?
Ktjn giving us teasers
I Googled its
Hiraeth
(n) A homesickness for a home you can't return to, a home that never was.
I'm sorry but how is it in Portuguese, fellow Portuguese speaker? 
oh wow. i guess that's understandable, since the guide this time is interactive and has a ton of props, which is something that we've never seen before
Nostalgia
It's written "Guida da União" instead of "Guia da União", there's a typo, you can look for my bug reports everywhere in #beta-bugs-ios
about it on multiple builds
Am I the only one who is emotionally attached to assembly guide?
nostalgia is so weird cuz i seem to enjoy music from my childhood that i would have otherwise hated if it came out in this time period lmao
His non stop boogie dance drives me crazy
But you can hug him and all too, I love it
Petition to do this with every ts 
A guide you can hug and high-five is my kinda guide
It's interesting how there is the word for nostalgia that works for something you experienced and the word for nostalgia that you never experienced
Prophecy guide would disagree
Also, I've been looking for the second wl cave for 30 minutes now, is in in the giant treehouse map, or at one of the entrances? I can't. Find it. Arghhh
He has a cool mask though
Also you guys can ping me, I don't mind pings at all here
Yet there is no word for the day after tomorrow
@/ktjn
I'd love to understand how the system is designed, and what exactly does it mean when we hear "TS are random"?
Is it a randomised algorithm that's coded into the game, and gives notification to media team about what ts will be?
Or TS team goes old school way of picking paper chits and does check box? Can Dev's override randomised result for any instance?
Propecy ult mask Is very poggers. But I love the weasel mask more
I've been wearing my weasel mask for as long as since I got it
laughs in Portuguese
We do have a word for after tomorrow and before yesterday :SkyLOL:
But now it's just language barriers matters
I think its in one of the trees next to the swings
Crab call mask is my favorite. It's so simple but I love it
they pick ts out of a hat 
i'm kidding
No I found the tree swing one, I mean the other one in the flooded tunnel. Ive gone through the topography and I cant find flooded tunnel
There's a BASEMENT???
They put treats on ts photos and let oreo decide
Basement? YES ITS AWESOME
lemme look and see if i can fix it. it's usually a lot better to report translation issues in #beta-feedback or message @hardy carbon because a different group of people work on translations.
Big tree house has a basement??
tree has a basement
its a very spooky basement. but there's something shiny waiting for you in there
oh I see, once I asked about translations issues with the inbox feature and some told me to write a bug report about it, so I thought it was the same case, I'll remind that
thanks for the help also 
Does this mean oreo ditches sanctuary spirits? 
do u like seeing them suffer
A totally normal non religious non scary basement that doesn't scare you
Wait ash said something funny about ts and oreo once, lemme search...
CURSE U
THAT BASEMENT HOLE
THAT'S GENIUS
This is THE ultimate treehouse
If the prophets start coming skykids gonna need gunz
I love the basement
Air prophet is cool but give me sanctuary spirits 
You know how kids love to do summoning rituals with candles and ghosts?
That's exactly what happened in that basement. They summoned a WL
Swimming pool, sleeping areas, chat areas, freaking dive boards, swings, what else can we ask for????
A swimming pool!!
That's it I'm loving this map
|| i'm going to mcdonalds does anybody want anything
||
I lit my firepot in supplication when I found the basement
#general-sky-discussion message
here, ash talking about how they chose their ts 
200 WL and 120 hearts
||Can I get ah uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Burger???||
Beesechurger
The fun lil extra things like swings and diving board are so good.
If this is real though 
📝👀📝👀📝📝
i wish it was 
||i’d like a chocolate milkshake please
||
this chat is so likeably chaotic
||give thrill /j
Get me ice cream please||
Anyways I'm walking my crab
||Can I have a banana||
Quarter pounder with cheese please
||fries pls||
||I'll have two number nines... a number nine large...||
it's a very old meme actually, surry 
This chat is very exciting, I love it
🇧 🇪 🇹 🇦
B
I left for 1 minute what happened 
quite everyone: oh really? how about hamburger 
I can only describe it as AAAAAAAAAAAAA
HONG
Pls tell me i wasnt the only one who thought the jumping in the water icon some kind of dance moce

I want Crab Soup
Do you think assembly will have candles?
i nearly said "hongri" 
funny story some folks got mad at us for that joke, claiming animal cruelty 
Is this general chat? rub eyes 
please stop with spoiler text on off-topic posts
It’s upgraded general chat 
But how is it cruelty
i don't know if i should cry or laugh, so i'll just

How is it actually done tho? Do you just generate a random number and pick the corresponding spirit?
it's not, because it's not real.
Where is my banana
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I don't think oreo wouldn't like to have an extra treat every 2 weeks.... 
Oreo deserves all the treats
congratulations, you found a trigger word! 
Give Oreo some love
I dont think the dev team has to disclose about these things
or how they work to the public
I'm really hyped for this ts but then again any of them are fine
Also me who's desperate for thrill
WHY COULDN'T YOU SAY "I ATE IT" THIS TIME IT WOULD BE SO PERFECT
essentially yes. we make some manual adjustments for like... the same spirit appearing twice in a row but that's about it.
okay so i got a burger, a beesechurger, 200 WL and 120 hearts, a chocolate milkshake, ice cream, one single banana, a quarter pounder with cheese (please), fries, two number nines, a number nine large, and a hamburger 
that's true, it's pretty cool how much they talk about how they work meanwhile they could simply not talk about it cause they don't really have to!
this may be a dumb question... but how do you know what spirit is coming before it comes? does it automatically alert you
The banana is very important
I'll have my 200 wl. I can share the 120 hearts with y'all if you want soem
the first time we had a repeat spirit, there was definitely discussion about whether it was too soon for a repeat, but ultimately decided enough time had passed it wouldn't be upsetting to the community (reality was iOS players were absolutely furious and android players were so excited)
I only got 70+ candles, no hearts, 6 wedges, and the Dreams UG as of now.
Ktjn are we going to have a Christmas table spell in the ark shop one day 
Sassy stance 
Oooo y’all I have a question does beta get the same ts as the live but just sooner? How does it work? Beta gets ts right?
Ignore if its confidential but
What time is coincidered enough for a ts to be repeat?
the order is randomly determined, but we still have build out the schedule in the game code so it's not a mystery to the dev team, we also need to have things like art assets prepared for #news and social media.
as an former ios and now android player i can imagine that
i was so happy when umbrella came again since when i started during rythmin, it was on umbrella's 3rd day already and of course moth me couldn't even understand where i should go 
i was breathless for a moment when i saw the cosmetics nodes from kabuki later on-
Beta and live ts schedule are the exact same. They don't appear sooner nor later... In fact sometimes they don't appear at all(not kidding)
Nope, beta TS schedule is different
I thought they were the same?
Exclusively when the devs need to test something
Wait what I’m confused there are 2 different answers to my question 
beta didn't used to get ts at all, but testers asked for them for something to do/work for when there's less going on (though really folks should just take a well-earned break from beta) so we started including a mirror of the live schedule in beta. it does appear differently sometimes when we are testing though.
oh, btw, what happened with the ts and adventure pass mechanic? was it scrapped or something cause i never heard of it again
Its still on Beta but I guess they are working on something else
I hope there's something funny planned for social media or something on April 1st (next TS) 
it was shelved for later, so we could shift focus on other things, which tends to happen often on beta (looking at you shepherd system and invisible cape)
Wait... Is there a goal of bringing the invisible cape to live?
Apparently I'm a shepard even though I'm still a beta moth
so basically we did a beta-only mockup of the ts schedule for awhile with a handful of spirits, which is why some may still have the AP lock and others don't. that all needs to done by hand.
to think the invisible cape is being considered is quite fun but thinking about how it currently costs 999 hearts it's quite alarming 
of course it might change, but dAmM those who have it in beta-
What is a shepherd?
it's never out of the realm of possibility, but when or how it will occur are the more fuzzy details.
Finally found my question
We were just talking about it with my friend
she is a shepherd while I had a bar (since I just joined)!! 
I love the design of backpack, but I adore the torch, it looks so cool and I wish we can have it on it’s own, not in backpack
somehow my back hurts when I see that backpack
"a mysterious friendliness ranking" as #beta-faq says
Is the home expansion going to stay... Or will it be submerged into water....
seasonal spirits take a minimum of a one season vacation before appearing as traveling spirits for a number of reasons.
ah we answered that somewhere, search a bit below your question please 
of not we can explain again, of course
Also are we going to get a spell for the teaset in ark after the days of blook event conclude ? 
I also wish the hexagon ring actually worked as a prop sad
imagine the saltiness of someone that payed for ap in dreams and the imediate ts after was, i dunno, yeti 
so yes once assembly starts prophecy spirits are eligible but that doesn't mean the first TS after is guaranteed to be a prophecy one.
Any news on the past seasons ultimate gifts coming back into sky?
Sanctuary spirits have been eligible for a while though, right?
Thanks
Oh invisi cape in live? Guess i should start listing the awkward positions which can be seen without cape then
(im extremely slow in typing today ouch)
oh so the next season has to start, breaks between seasons doesn't count already to these spirits come as TS?
I don’t think that would be very fair to veterans : (
which made a lot of people pretty anxious and unreasonably furious about how long it took for a Rhythm spirit to appear. randomness is the most fair but sometimes cruel.
haha would you look at that (at least me) we're talking here for more than one hour already
my grandma always said: "it's cause of the dammed conversation"
it's funny how we can stay hours talking about something we like 
still summoning crab call
It's sad 
i never said that, i just said one season break.
rythmin never came, and when it did it was like 3 spirits in 2 months i think
god, the hype... good times! 
yeah but no one complained about that, haha, cuz they got what they wanted.
I mean, you said "once assembly starts prophecy spirits are eligible", weren't they be eligible when dreams ended? (like our next TS now could be a Prophecy one)
sorry if I misunderstood
Hopefully a sanctuary spirit will be a ts soon, probably gonna end up like rhythm though 
for being from the season of rhythm, they sure don't sound like they kept to one with the TS schedule 
Off topic
Does tgc have an estimated population of the sky kingdom? Before it fell ofc
some did get specially salty when chinese server got winter piano before we even got rythmin dancer 
I’d love to see torch on its own too
Me who only has seen two rhythm spirits in-game
Hmm hmm, I lowkey wish they made more animal masks, except birds cuz you know how many bird mask we have already
i saw a madlad talking somewhere about how they calculated the population of valley out of pure boredom once, forgot who it was...
Cat mask cat mask cat mask
Y'ALL.... WE NEED A CAT MASK
They had some during Dreams, remember?
CAT MASK!!!!!
One squirrel yes I forgot
plot twist: the krills at TGC are actually all birds, that's why we have so many bird masks 
honk
MEOW
AAAAA THAT HURTS MY BRAIN
or cat ears 
that's reading too deeply into what I said. The work to transition a seasonal spirit to a traveling spirit needs to be included in a content patch, which would likely also include the upcoming season's content.
And whiskers
About april fools
Is there gonna be a prank in-game?
Just a joke but fish mask and it turns you into a reverse mermaid
Goodbye y’all I’m going to candle run
we'd need proper water physics first
no one believes me when i say water in sky is a clever lie
The ts is on April 1......
This is so informative 😯
april fool's sounds kinda funny, but i'm not sure if it's a global thing -- might be very confusing for any cultures that don't have it
I do not want a prank on the day of a ts,,,,
i find the first ice rink in valley really cool
but it hurts my two braincells immensely
I do. I quoted you several times
Lot of people realised it in valley ice rink on the 2 door area
I do, some water act funny. I've found bodies of water that let you just sink to the bottom and I wonder if there's a bug in the code there
Why's that?
I mean, our skykids' shadows are also a lie. They're just a bunch of circles formed into the shape of a skykid 
Well my head hurts
Time to get some more soda
The day i realised i need to care less about logic is the day i saw candles burning underwater in ice rink
o do u want some i’m still at mcdonalds
sometimes, i think i'm being stalked by the michelin man 
As well as a degree of oob exploring I find the waters interesting somtimes
You havent seen the candle cake underwater in sanctuary testing
that was quite a wiev
it should be less michelin-y this patch
because if you look from outside you see it's water, when you look from under the water and into the holes in the ice it looks like water but the little jellyfish with our physics from outside of the "water" makes such a mess with my brain-
Logic: exists
TGC: Gonna pretend I didn't see that
the what
Ray traced 4k sky when
We gon fry even a 3090
Oh
so balloon man from the trials and office’s space day is gonna get better
We were born for this 
Oh yeah. There was a whole candle cake underwater, taunting us
I just came back from filming a meme, what is going on
haha flying water creatures go

I cant... I'm in phisical pain by these unlogical realities... But I'm in too deep. I can't give up
Is that even possible?
Welcome to beta discussion switching topics rapidly
almost forgot, i went in and fixed it for sure this time, will need a new patch to see the changes though.
I don’t know I haven’t been here in a looongg while 
There was also a winged light stuck out of bounds
I’m just begging for a patch to be pushed out just before Assembly goes Live
I trust you
Can we get the ingame translator in live? 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Here it is
it was a pain to light it tho, but not impossible
In sky yes it is.
We are charged by clouds
Drained by rain
And neutral to lakes
All 3 are different forms of water
✨LOGIC ✨
Wait a second
I spy and engineer plying VALHIEM
Ehehehehehe
water is truly the nightmare of people in lore channel 
I said that because in "What is a Traveling Spirit?" page it states that TS are eligible "until the next full Season has passed", so I was supposing that at the moment Dreams ended, the next TS could be a Prophecy spirit even with the inactive season break (and I think I should drop this topic since we're in beta
)
4
Not to mention the toxic water in Wasteland and in EOE
I think all logic went out the window since the first time you collected a winged light 
Why did the season extended? are we going test something new or is it just for properties and new season polish?
Nah logic died when sky came into existence
New season polish maybe
Ive only been more and more amazed
We are fire
Oil is good for fire
So why oily water bad for us
thanks a lot Ktjn! that typo was giving me chills already haha
And thats the exact same moment you became a mortal 
oh no the horror of a person playing a video game on their day off..how dare they
It’s not rain that drains you, the dark stone actually, raining in forest is influenced by dark stone
I do love how Sky has its own logic
although very different from our world
Maybe we can talk about it in #lore-discussion-spoilers
Do y'all ever just
Play your own game
Like in the live version?
It's just... I see valhiem everywhere I go
Hmm hmm
Spinning bells of Sanctuary still make to ringing sounds👀
In real spinning bells don't ring.
It doesn't. Don't get me started on it I'm in pain by how much it doesn't really 
The devs definitely play sky. Maybe you've friended one already 
sure do, spent 2 hours with the design team playing yesterday even.
Nope my friend constellation is too small 
I mean as skykids we’re still learning about the world, every spirit we meet teaches us a new emote and they’re still coming like hot cakes
so the logic doesn’t bother me as much
Do you think... I'll finally get to see him ingame. A dream come true
Plot twist. That moff you abandoned in wasteland was actually a dev and now is coming after you
things I think TGC likes
- flying fish
- a very long journey
- more flying fish
- make us go crazy into lore
- more fish, why not?
you didn't see my deleted message
valheim is a cool game, but that's not exactly
related
Tru tru
I want to be friend with game devs 
Maybe you already are 
On my live account, I friended someone that looks exactly like Ktjns pfp 
Imgine just casually befriending someone and finding out its Ktjn
viking lore but a game, I love it
but anyway
we, who changes topic as naturally as we breath: we can change that
and along came zeus the mods 
Things tgc likes
1.breaking expectations (in a good way
2.leaving things vague so we build on it ourselves.
Things tgc doesn't like
1.when people try guessing their next move
maybe you already are
Has there been a function implemented for the hoop item yet?
I'm so lonely in beta and live
My best friend doesn't have beta and she's gone for the weekend
Cause I said it first lol 
Wroom Wroom
you mean breaking our expectations, making something we could never think about and making us cry
i'm still sobbing a little with dreams finale 
Imagine if devs were a bit different of a normal skykid and you could recognize them, with some special cosmetic or accessories, like in Tibia GMs had the blue cape skin
but I suppose that breaks the anonymous feeling of the game 
Tgc mario kart?
you'd have to ask the people who put the reactions there?
sky friendship speedrun, of course 
I'm 42% done with the vault constellation on my way to elder hair and capeless
I just wanted to say it cuz I'm proud 😌
honestly i can't imagine devs wanting any kind of special indication in-game. it's nice to just play like a normal person without unwanted attention.
honestly with the Questgiver’s tree, I’m just hoping deep inside we can hug more spirits in the future...apart from the ones it’s not in-character for
I can’t imagine hugging the Prophecy QG
it’s proven it’s possible and I want m o r e
Hm, I've alway wondered tho, for as long I've used the umbrella, I noticed something interesting. It seems to make you descend slower even in gliding mode, but reduces your max speed, is there like, officially saying what it actually does? Like all its effects regarding flying?
I wanna hug thrill
Then my life would be complete
I remember i wanted to ask this too
Is it safe to assume that every season will have its own seasonal location or expansion to existing locations?
If yes after the vault season will the seasons repeat the pattern?
I nearly screamed when I saw we could bow to the assembly spirits
I’d love more opportunities to hug them
Eden is watching you
being able to bow at them and having them bow in response would suit all of them though, I’m desperate for that to be a thing
i hear about special ingame roles and cosmetics in rpgs for example
but yes, being anonimate is pretty cool, specially with them being them
"a lot of developers don't even have one full constellation" - some staff member 
yeah I totally agree, it's a different occasion anyways, they had these special indication because they were actually moderators of that environment, just daydreaming a bit 
Petition to be able to interact with every ts
Including hugging
i didn’t mean to ping you like that i’m sorry
that's one of those things where players find patterns in places that they don't exist. there's no rule about making a season in each level before making a repeat.
Reminds me of when we used to be able to wave to spirits after reliving them in daily quests
I miss that...
I had a theory
With the amount of wl were getting from new area's eden run is getting easier and easier... Eventually eden will need to be rebalanced.... Eden season?
every spirit, with interactions that are in-character for them
yes. I need that
I'm always interested to a degree to the game mechanics and making use of it to my advantage
But is it possible for a season to take place in the same realm 2nd time in a row?
Or will the "1 spirit 1 realm " format come back?
~~ Build a tower for King~~
i kind of wish we could still see the questgiver in some of their old spots in the treehouse, i miss seeing them falling asleep like a goofball by the hammocks
anything is possible
Plot twist: when all the realms is filled with one season location sky will end 
even spirit hugs?
So this is unrelated to all the questions and stuff but I'm so happy with all the props even if they don't do anything functional. Gathering a bunch of ppl with different props and making random cozy areas is so fun. And I can't wait for it to hit live and just see so much furniture lol. 
that exists already, so yes?
Please add interactions with every spirit in-game
I need this in my life
I don't wanna see the end of Sky
I can't imagine sky ending no
😭
This gives me hope for my theories 
It's all a part of a grand plan and I'm amazed by it... Bravo
You just gotta beLIEEEEEEVE 
With more spirits...?
Hey Ktjn 
I just wanted to let you know, you and everyone working at TGC deserves so much love. 
Seriously, Sky made my life brighter and better, and especially after joining the Beta I realized how much thought, effort, work and passion you‘re putting into this game. I love reading the game like a book and finding out what stands behind everything, every detail is a gift.
Thank you for your hard work, you‘re really amazing. 
rock-paper-scissors player interaction is possible, I believe deep inside my heart.
I highly doubt that’s what the end of sky is gonna be like, but it’s funny to imagine them specifically avoiding a vault season just so that sky won’t end 
We're so desperate for this lmao
Hey hey, you know
We can give appreciation letters in #live-feedback so everyone at TGC or mods and shepherds can see it!
I think-

please just let me hug every spirit I
I keep coming up with ideas for cosmetics. I feel like a dev 🤔
Please 
It's too wholesome
Me too
Sky won't end after vault season
These are pieces of puzzles.
There are doors still left closed... We have lots of content yet
our sky kids may have a small problem with the "scissors" option right now, considering they don't seem to have distinct fingers 
Yes I'll give you love too, don't scare me skybot 
don’t worry citizens, your hero is here
I say anything is possible, but it still takes time to make possibilities into realities
you can’t go back now that you’ve let us interact with the Assembly QG
you have awakened the spirit fanatics in a good way
And you should take as much of it as you need
Then you can get help from us
sky's the limit, or not
Yes
Spirit lover gang rise up
Orbit! 
I apologize if this is the wrong place to ask this, but is there by any chance any news on any more sky soundtracks being released? There’s quite a few songs from sky that aren’t in the first one that I’d love to listen to-
Well apparently the sky is not the limit since we go into space even
the limit is usually time and technology, not the sky 
Just to be clear, the feedback channels are only seen by the devs and mods (for moderation purposes
)
You can definitely send the devs messages of appreciation about the game there!
Imagine if a sky kid somehow accidentally opened a portal to Earth, and there's just a confused and scared little sky kid running around
waves to Mirian
you did it with one...it’s too late to turn back now
even if it takes a while, does this mean more interaction??
I want to feel I’m reassuring Light-Miner after that suffering they went through, for example...please
I think that’s just the office staff 
I was always taught sky is the limit
thank you for the storyline idea
I shall consider this now
Oh yes, I forgot
So... feedback for devs and mods, report to mods for everyone else (as they might redirect the message)? :pEyes:
Just commit orbital reentry at the space station map
You will notice its a really really really long way down but there is a bottom
sky's the limit for imagination
limit for reality is far lower sometimes 
During the new year, I heard a music in home that I completely loved it. I wonder if I'd ever hear it again or if it would ever appear in TGC's official YouTube playlist
folks leave the kindest letters in #beta-feedback #live-feedback sometimes, really brightens our days to know we make a difference and inspires us to do our best in the future.
you cannot retreat now, we require more spirit interaction
yeah i miss that song, it was a mix of all the motives of the music in each realm
One day
We finish our perfect eden run and get reborn. All spirits are saved. All memories relived.
Gates don't have portals in them anymore. We turn around.... Far in the previously empty see there's a new arch and a glowing yellow orange portal
We walk to it and as we reach it... We realise... It's time. Our journey in sky's kingdom has ended. Its time to return home
"This does put a smile in my face"
That's so sweet, it's really good to see how there are people that truly appreciate all of this work :pWow:
Does the game uninstall itself then 
noooo 😭
I don't wanna see Sky end like this
Why? Sky isn't our origin. We'll finally go back home
I don't want sky to ever end
I'm not ready for that day yet
Sometimes I think of sky ending and it makes me a little sad
I know it will one day, that's why we should appreciate all of it with our dearest friends now! :pAww:
the tech is there now, and i'm sure we'll use it in the future, but i can't make promises about when or where it'll be used.
Same I'm not emotionally and mentally prepared
one time i accidentally sent just “hi?” in the beta feedback because it was my first time using it and i’m dumb and didn’t realize feedback sends automatically and there’d be an hour cooldown
i still feel so bad aaaaaaa
What tech?
i promise you're not alone, there's probably a "hi" in there at least once a day
I did something similar and accidentally hit send while halfway through a sentence
at least once
Basically #beta-feedback #live-feedback for any feedback regarding the game or the Sky dev team, #contact-the-mods for anything relevant regarding the Discord server and team. Both are seen by mods and devs only, but serve different purposes if that makes sense. And there's @hardy carbon for TGC staff only too
This just reminded me that sky will end eventually. Whyyyyyy 😭
"Hi"
"How are you?"
"I hope you have a nice day!"
Can I say hi there now?
go for it
I feel you, but Sky will not end like this. I refuse to accept it!
I once got carried away and passed the character limit.... By 500 characters ✨💃
Every piece of feedback I send nowadays (not a lot cause I fell out of properly testing this season but still) goes past 500 
i didnt know you could attach files and sent feedback in huge chunks 
and there it be
It has been done 
Itsfineskywontendanytimesoonberrygetaholdofyourself
Most likely you'll leave sky before sky ends so..... Yeah
I see then, really thank for explaining and sorry for the trouble once again
Cause I'm pretty sure this is not the first time you explain it to me- :stickerEmbarrassed:
Inb4 someone writes a 3000 word essay and sends it in image format since there's text limit

For now, dressing up as spirits is the next best thing for hugging them etc.
and better in ways because you can see combinations of them together that you never actually could
I don't really use the channel much
Idk, I've set a goal to get capeless Cape. I only have two friends, so it will take a long time haha
WHAAAA
CAN I DO THAT?? WILL IT VE VALID?
My dream skykid is basically a combination of my top three favorite spirits
This is a blessing for when I go essay mode in feedback 
same, bless our two friends. 
“combination” as in seeing certain spirits together
i've college dissertation-level of feedback posts, text files, word docs, spreadsheets, you name it.
Vault constellation is already hard enough, it will be torture trying to get 999 more hearts, I think I bit off more than I can chew 😞
Ok but imagine you can buy a house... An actual house somewhere in sky and that's where you spawn
yeah, just thinking of how to afford the white cape is scary 
I only bite what I can chew. Plus, I still have my friends to support me everyday
I'm preparing my hearts if it ever comes to Live
What's with all those teasersssss
"The game is really cool!"
"Considering situations as in time needed for completion, interaction with the world and another players, along with the ability to customize our character-"
I know some people used to send edits of cosmetics being tested in feedback way back when the public could read them. Testers send in a lot of stuff for feedback
Is there a goal for adding an option to change our hair colour
sometimes my feedback should probably end with “thank you for coming to my ted talk” 🥲
I know there used to be concept art of hair colors changing, but they scrapped it 
Do you think bots can think?
one of my top 3 favorite feedback-that-isn't-feedback are the "i'm too lazy* to fill out a proper bug report so i'm posting this here"
*lazy being their word, not mine.
That reminds me, I'll need to take pictures of my shiny silver hair, it's just a bug but I find it so cool! 
I love the shiny hair 
looks at my other ocs
Mhm yeah
Anyways why are you here skybot
The bug report process do be a bit long and repeating tho
That sounds like something I’d do as well tbh 
Whenever I see the shiny hair I have to double check my graphics settings to make sure I didn’t put it to max again
I don't think using that phrase in an actual feedback sending would be appropriate
i do this all the time in sky, haha
i know having different color hair is highly requested, but so are a lot of things that may or may not ever happen.
i will now afk more in sky after the update abt afk with the
emote wjcnjwjs
no it's not an appropriate use of the channel, but that doesn't stop people from using it that way.
It sounds cool, but I personally wouldn't want it. It takes away from the fact that sky kids are made of light, and it just doesn't fit the aesthetic of the game
Goodbye blue hair 
Right?!
Sometimes I write my feedbacks for my own pleasure instead of doing it for real (of course I do, but I get so pumped up that I write one or two pages sometimes) :stickerUmm:
Feedback doesn’t have to sound professional as long as it gets the point across, I think if it were required to sound like an essay it would deter a lot of people from sending feedback,
But yes bug reports go in bug reports channel 
a spirit call is a slightly absurd idea I had but I have no idea how it’d be justified, for example
designing fan seasons is pain
I sent my first thing of feedback, I feel so professional
Nooo I don’t want different hair colors... hope that never happens, sky kids having white hair makes me feel like they’re made of clouds and light
I wonder if TGC recognizes people who are sending a lot of feedback or bug reports, it must be many. 
I think I need to prepare more if I have to send an actual feedback to the devs
There are more than 200k people in this server, sometimes we recognize one or two people
Yet, they have so much work to do that it wouldn't be amusing if they forgot their very own name :pFIRE:
If so then I'm sorry for sending mainly negative feedbacks... I still appreciate your work i just want to help improving
Yeah, I feel like sending it in the wish lists channel is not efficient and I get posted over quickly, but what do I know? I hope the devs see my ideas though
I'm proud of them
there's no one better way to do feedback. writing a lot or a little doesn't make one piece of feedback better than another. the only thing we hope for from feedback is that it's constructive
negative feedback is okay, again... the key is constructive
Just to clarify it's always respectfull and specific.
unconstructive posts are usually pretty few and far between, but they do happen...and have definitely earned people lengthy mutes or removal from the server entirely.
Me: sends one request
Also me: "I hope I'm not overwhelming them, am I just adding even more to their pile?? Maybe I should go back and apologize..."
What makes a constructive feedback?
The devs read every bit of what get sent into the wishlist channel, so it’s not being ignored just because no one replies to it, but feedback channels are more for what’s currently happening than it is of what you want to see in the future
don’t just be plain negative, explain why you don’t like it and include what could potentially improve it
I've read that we shouldn't be suggesting a solution to an issue we're writing a feedback about and we should concentrate on how we feel using things playing
Read it on different platforms from different creators
You also don't need a lot of difficult words to make feedback, simple English does the trick if you gave your thought well!
An interesting thought exercise I'd like to suggest:
1️⃣ Think of the ting you want most in the game
2️⃣ Think about how much development time you estimate it would take to implement
3️⃣ multiply that time by at least 10
I want bonfire the most 
p a i n 
Underwater season in 10 years?? 
“It’s ugly” is a constructive reason as long as you follow up on why and on how it could be improved, even though it’s a little harsh 
I dont like fire trial because it has worms to improve fire trial they can delete it 
sounds about right 
so I‘ll wait for a few years until my dream of an vault underground season comes true
I‘ll be patient. 
ugly is subject, so understanding what makes it "ugly" is usually what we're hoping for in a feedback post.
Yes, like explaining why you think something is ugly, how other people see it, how you thought it would be, how you think it could be or how to improve it
Maybe-
Interactions with every spirit? Unsure, but at least a couple months...sigh
posting insults is never constructive
Is wanting something back and giving the reason why constructive?
yes
Alright. I was worried since that's basically the feedback I've been sending
It's on the horizon
Vault is inside of a mountain. The higher the level the lesser the space for possible expansions.
Vault season is on the near horizon ( can be changed any time tho)
And i belive/hope since there's not much other ways to expand it will be underground
P. S. I wrote an entire season for this u can check out in #wishlist-and-ideas by searching my messages there :stickerLove:
oh I will definitely check it out! I have written an entire season for vault as well, should maybe post it there. yay!
I wonder if next TGC's game we will also have to climb a chilly mountain of death and ascend 
We probably have a very similar idea 💡🤔i see you
So something unconstructive like, "you guys are stupid for making rhythm ultimate gift a hairstyle" was something we saw a lot a year ago.
a constructive interpretation of that might look like:
"I don't feel a hairstyle is impressive enough to be considered an ultimate item because my expectation of an ultimate gift was developed by the two seasons before Rhythm (belonging and lightseekers) where the ultimate gift item was a prop item with an important function so having something like an outfit item feels less impressive"
I wish they make a area in valley like the snow area in journey with the guardians but they can have krills instead 
I guess there are more places that can talk about this better (working on giving constructive feedback is a skill) but here are some things I’ve seen elsewhere and picked up from classes
• "Criticise ideas and not people". So when you are talking about some aspect of the creative work that you might not like, you can try to elaborate and be specific about what part, in the work, might not be working well for you, while avoiding making any attacks on the person who made it.
• Try to be aware that you are offering suggestions, and the creator still retains the right to choose whether or not to implement it. So that includes avoiding putting a request that something "should be done this way", for example
Key of writing feedback: explain!
And dont be rude about it and use insults!
mildly worried about the possibility of a violin because I have a spirit of my own with one; the idea makes me nervous as I don’t know what to do with them if it were to be a thing
especially upon realising the aesthetic of Vault could potentially suit it in certain contexts...oh dear...
though I did doom myself as I partially based them off the whole fact it’s requested at such an absurdly high frequency, honestly...
How can u not love rhythm its the best thing in the game 
Wait what was the ult for gratitude? :O
KTJN WE NEED ULTIMATE GIFT PANTS OR A SKIRT FOR SOME SEASON
the deer mask
Ultimate pants? I'm down for that 
Some people just don't like what the majority likes and vice versa
Respecting that is a virtue! :SkyTada:
these are both really good tips 
I could imagine the stream of negative feedback if or when ultimate pants are announced,
Though it does seem like the pants craze has died down from where it was last year
wouldn’t be as negatively received now
Anubis has a crown of light tho...
||anubis is the oracle and is much more important than we think ||
If juggler came before any rythmin spirit I assure you, it would be far worse than we could think 