#beta-discussion
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oh yeah, definitely report overheating and frame rate issues. i just... forgot to do that. 
i'll have to test it out again this build, since i noticed it in the last build
guys are there still android players that cant get into sky beta? please tell me its not only me.. im starting to panic
Not me. But you're not the only one.

If your Google Play store says that beta is full it's probably because the beta IS full, the next invite waves for beta will be released in a few months
sorry if I misunderstood your question
i got into tester when the links were released 2 days ago. it just says full even im one of the testers
if it says that you are a tester, then you have a spot in the beta. google takes a bit to register everyone, so you may have to wait a few days to be able to download. sometimes it takes even longer than that.
A h-
Then I misunderstood:")) The message below yours explained it correctly tho
@spark lance moving the convo here because shorter slowmode. 🙂 Sorry if I misunderstood. But if you want to post comparisons, you can post more than one picture in a comment instead. The slowmode is 10 mins in the screen shot channel, so your first photo might end up a long way away from the next and make it hard to compare.
I love that the emotes can sit now and open props... I use the umbrella in forest so much just for that hahaha
Night y'all, I'll see if google caught up in the morning 👋 I hope to play with you soon 😊
Mmmmmmm question: Does anyone have the season of assembly cost for each spirit? Like the spirit tree and its cost? 
No guides are made in beta because everything is subject to change.. I have no idea what the prices were tbh cause I had purchased everything by the time the price changes came about 
Ahhh okie 
i love how im broke in beta and live 
Free AP
also the founder cape to prevent bully by a bot
Aiya i have been waiting for 12 hours why i cant enter beta yet 
I was on the pc and did not give but I will do an edit with the two photos together
do people even spawn in the 8 player elevator room :/
I thought you were in beta already 
I did! But google wont let me download beta

Omg you are thinking the exact same thing with me
Or just do the afk at home.
Where did you know there was an invite to beta anyway? I'm always late༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
If you didn't make a group beforehand, it's hard. Especially since the season is nearly finished. During off season and when no events are going on beta is a wasteland. Try asking in #beta-looking-for-group
I just went online in the right time, it seems

This system is like, you need to touch the screen less in 1 min constantly
ohh okie thank you :3
Get a ping in #beta-faq
But I feel like, another invite will occur for another event and new season. if ever TGC want more tester.
(・o・)
activate the ping role in #beta-faq
Im joining beta because i want to be moff again-
And look closely on the new mural :pFIRE:
@hushed wave the 2 min timer is a placeholder for testing purposes
@sullen bronze to see invites channel you need to get the ping role from #beta-faq by reacting to the message. Beta invites are random.
Um...you accidentally pinged someone there...
it seems that google doesn't want me to test out assembly, maybe next year 
Thanks everyone (^~^;)ゞʕ ꈍᴥꈍʔ
I wonder who
Hahah, Oh my, sorry XD
Top 3 things happened that causes the most controversy in this server
- Exchanging ultimate gifts for little candles as refund (the initial statement)
- AP locking TS items
- This afk system
We sure have been a lot of ups and downs ngl
Wait whats the 1st one i just heard it now-
Those and the black hat from season of dreams
Kind of wondering, when you’re a moth, do they usually place you in servers with only other moths? I remember when I first played the game thee was only moths around
Oh it goes back a long way :') gen chat went on like a 10 minute slowmode because of that
Basically tgc released a pre made proposal to allow old players who are upset about the TS system by giving an oppoturnity to refund the items. And the the prices did not sit right
Refund the deer mask for like , 30 candles or something
This made a lot of people felt the items were so devalued
Oh my did it explode beta chat too?
It was like selling your Seasonal stuff and getting some candles in return.
Tbh, it seemed a bit petty and didn't really address the issue at all.
guys please tell me when will the new season be?
Eek glad they scrapped that idea.. why anyone would ever even want to swap is beyond me
oooo that one was just bonkers
it even fried gen chat for a week or two
LMAOOO WHAT
Isn't there a countdown in live already?
Yo people were writing like a 1000 word essays in gen chat
Unless.... If it was the other way around
If you thought those were bad, you should have seen beta rhythm. Rip beta Android discussion and feedback channels
how to write a report?
I don't know
Wait what happened? Aeras I must know the juciy details
What happened back then if i may ask-
Go to #beta-bugs-android react to the fire sticker skybot will tell you the steps
you can check when pressing the AP purchase in the in-game shop, you don't have to buy the AP, you can also see the details of the upcoming season and when it'll start there
Omg i forgot android discussion was a thing
They are so bad and highly toxic during beta wave invites
Wait, beta Android discussion was ended when the first beta invites happened and everyone was spamming tgc capes
Or maybe i don't remember correctly
But yeah, a LOT happened when the invites were happening
Ok i personally doesn't like the afk = no candle system it's- what do you guys think about it? (Sorry for changing the discussion)
The piano used to be the ultimate and owl hair a regular cosmetic. And then they switched. We used to be able to read the feedback channels, but they got so heated that now it's dev read only. People did not like having a hair as an ultimate
glad that's in the past, it was a mess
did you guys see the new candle update thing? go collect some candles and you guys will see what i’m talking about
Omg @vital sentinel haha it’s you! I remember we were randomly talking about physics that one time when the chat was on fire about the ts spirits hahaha 🤣 how are you doing? XD
@slim kayak lol and now everyone wants that hair - everyone
Change is difficult sometimes. Only time can tell if it's for the better.
I don't actually like owl hair much, nor the Prophecy ultimate mask. 
Yeah, kinda crazy how the hair was so hated back then, and evryone wanted it to change and now....well, LMAO
Wait people hated it 
I think their opinion are biased just because owl hair is ultimate now lmao
I don’t wear the prophecy ult either ;-; tbh I’m a fan of the more simpler looking masks haha
wait people didn’t like the owl hair back then? ? ?
No, people didn't think a hair was good enough to be an ultimate.
(sorry a bit late to the party) And the update where Hjonks wouldn't reveal other players
I kinda understand now why they removed it
Yeah but they could’ve do that for home, not the whole realms 
I miss radar honk so much. The world generally feels emptier and lonelier now.
And also following strangers
I mean we can still see where others are if they hjonk back
Help again, what i need print in bug report, if my version 0.13.0()?
My first conversation with a beta player :
Me (because I see the other player is a moth) : you’re also new in beta ?
Player : Maybe 😏
I- ok lmao
Following strangers was kind of wierd imo
I think the game changed a lot when it was released globally, because the general public didn’t understand or care for the original concept of altruism. And also the game mechanisms changed as well, which is a normal development for any game.
Rip hjonk radar
So, what i need print, if in () emptiness?
Sky-Beta v0.13.0 build 164405
Check #beta-announcements for the version number.
It’s hard to even think that some players actively sort out to torment other players, i also really miss the honk feature I wish there would be a possibility to turn it off or on allowing some players to stay invisible
It would be interesting to see the demographic change from pre-release beta and global release, and whether it had any bearing on these types of behaviours. Although, I know people complained about grieving already back in Aviary days. Perhaps it just became more noticeable with more players in the game.
Personally I don’t understand why people want to give back Aviary, I think the actual home is good enough. After I’m in live a sanctuary moth so I didn’t live aviary days, but I can understand people are nostalgic about
Aviary made sense back then, because we all had our private space for lighting friend candles before entering the world of Sky and meeting other players. I feel that Home is too small and busy. It can feel overwhelming when you start up the game sometimes.
Yes, i feel that. I mostly have a friend at home space whenever i log in and i always have to talk to them or wave to them so they don't feel bad even tho i want to play alone some day. Even tho i'm sending lights it may look like i'm ignoring the other person. Having a personal space would be helpful for those things. 
I wish they put the tree where the constellation is because i spend so long collecting light from my constellation and i wish i can get wax at the same time 
Many times I’ve stood on the platform lighting friends and seen in the corner of my eye a hug prompt or even chat. It’s a little stressful. I want to get the lighting done before being social. Or maybe not be social at all, because that day I didn’t have much time to play.
Ohh alright I see why people want back Aviary now 
It doesn’t have to be Aviary specifically, but some way if making the platform less crowded and stressful.
Yes, and it’s "normally" the goal to Sky : a world with no stress, only peaceful spaces. I think it will be interesting if a kind of aviary back in the future, thank you for giving your opinions, I understand better now !
Or at least . A separate home space where you can light candles.
And a light all button. That would be grreeeaaat
I want Delete friend option 😭 i have 300 more blocked.
- more constellation windows or just put a limit on friends so we stop wasting time
I’m ambivalent about a “light all”. I do find it a meditative experience to light all my friends and also remember what we did together or how we met, if only fleeting.
I think there is a danger in friending everyone and anyone, especially if you’re just doing it for the lights/hearts.
A light all button might not be best for performance. Maybe a "light this page" button. And as for it being meditative . I mean, you wouldn't have to use that button should it be implemented. And I'm going to be honest, I have many ..many friends from helping so many people. And there's no way I have experience with all of them.
Huh, I never thought of it like that before. I do also wish that the constellations wouldn't shuffle the names when I'm in the middle of lighting then however. I feel like it makes it confusing for those who have a busy friend page
maybe add an option to light friends with one tap instead of three, so you still light each one individually
Ah, that's a bug. Caustic. That happened to me for a while. Not sure how it got fixed tbh. ^^:
You learn something new every day then 😅
How the hell is Google not letting me download beta yet.
here we go for 48 hours 
@spring vector, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
I'd like to be able to call up every friend in my constellations
I love this idea
And I'd like to see all my friends' meditation messages at the shrines. These days it is reduced to about 20 that come up again and again and again. Will send feedback...
darn TGC went a step forward then backward 2 steps with the no radar friends
and afk cr
It’s a tricky balance, because helping many players is of course a good thing. At the same time, it does hollow out the meaning of friendship in the game. But that’s partly the game design as it is now.
What’s a change you miss from the old versions of sky @hollow compass
Does anybody who got accepted as beta tester downloaded the app, because I don't, and I feel really dissapointed 😭 (android version)?
Radar honk, mostly. I did also not like the new flying system much when it was introduced, but learnt to live with it.
I also miss that private space for lighting friends. And maybe the old capes...?
WHERE ARE THE BETA INVITES
were sent out the other day bud, you’re late :( sorry
they’ve been
Guys, in live it says the season starts in ten days... in beta the props still dont have functions except for torch spotlight and little ground fire pit.... im getting anxious 🙈 how is this going to work i hope they get added function before it goes live
Ah if only i didn't need to block 1/3 of m'y friendlist to be able to see all of them.. what a great moment of meditation about remembering good times tho..
(Not saying you're wrong friend, but let's be honest, the friends constellation has a problem)
There’s no need to be sarcastic. I’m just sharing my experience. I did also say that the game has changed a lot and some features are still here since the start.
Hmmm I wouldn't say a "light all" would be an appropriate fix for that issue though, but rather more room to show all friends? Or a system in which you could see all friends, regardless of how many there were (without it being a list of some kind because that would just ruin the experience)
Worst case scenario, they have to extend the season in beta and extend the no season in live to get things finished
I hate tgc Nerf AFK player
Hmm.. yah... i doubt theyll not start the season though... lol
Ten days is a long time in beta. 
Don't get me wrong I'm not being sarcastic about your thoughts 
I know, I also enjoy looking at all the moths that "compulsive friended" me and see how they've grown, but the actual constellation is broken...
What's the point of making friends if you can't see all of them ?
Worse if you need to block some to see others
just curious, beta invites are only sent out in this server right?
Yeah, true. The constellation probably needs a rework, or the whole friendship system. I don’t know how what to suggest to TGC, really.
Same :C rlly sad bc it's making me anxious that I might not have gotten in djfsjjj
I will agree that the limit on the amount of friends able to be shown in the friend constellation is frustrating. There definitely should be a fix, but such that doesn't take away the experience (like how now your friends are actual stars in the sky that you "visit" in a way by tapping them) and also is engineered in a way to let a large amount of friends (hopefully unlimited) show up
Which is not a very simple thing to come up with 
Probably why we are still not seeing any updates about that
You aren't the only one, I have the exact same problem and I'm pretty sure a lot of new android beta testers for this invite wave deal with it too
Someone suggested grouping friends into clusters before, and a search function
But I agree that it needs a rework for sure
This game has already accomplished a lot more than most other mobile games. 
I guess that it would be a lot of help of we could manage our friends, be able to sort them in constellations and be able to know when they are gone for months (so we could unfriend that one moth that didn't understand the game and completely stopped playing)
And no limitation to how many friends we see, since we can friend a lot of people why couldn't we see them all
Actually Google has not been cooperative in any invite wave as far as I remember... In each one there was some number of people not able to download Beta after getting in, and I really don't understand why 
I am one of those peeps that dealt with the pains of Google in the past. I got in during Sanctuary, but was extremely unlucky to the point that I only managed to download Beta months (just before Prophecy) later. Do not fear tho, I am a very extreme case of unlucky, and the vast majority of people got to download a loot sooner. Hope you manage to as well 
Who download sky beta on Android?
Omg ur pfp killed me 🤣

Banana hair is best hair
Yes
That is why my question is : how is it possible that I see several new moths joining beta everyday ?
I never met a single English speaking moth on beta, all of them are Chinese moth and half of those think they are on the real game :pThink:
First time ive heard it called banana hair, I love it
I know it as sausage hair, or hot dog hair
Or pineapple hair 🍍
I ever met this kind too!
they don't even know what to do, said a friend told them to download
and don't have discord

It’s...um, how to put this...some have downloaded illegal copies, others use not allowed means to access the internet outside of mainland China (because of their restrictive laws) and some just download the wrong one because Google be like that.
also inactive players are constantly being removed from ios beta so it’s not unlikely for you to click on the link and manage to secure a place
So change of topic... wondering whether the missing stars on the ultimate cape was intentional.
It kind of makes sense within Assembly to not have any stars, yeah. I don’t know.
I think so! We might see more starless capes from now on?
I imagine its a bug, so probably enjoy it while it lasts! I think if the cape was intended not to have stars, it would be mentioned in Known issues or something
I don't know but it's actually cool
It was actually confirmed before that a "Light All" feature will never arrive. Lighting friends is supposed to be something kinda intimate. When you accept a gift of light from a friend, it means they took time out of their day to light you up.
If a light all feature was added, yes you'll get hearts faster, but receiving light from friends will no longer feel special since it's too easy to light up everyone.
Plus, you don't "need" to light people if you want to enjoy Sky. It's really just something to help your friends out and doesn't benefit you whatsoever.
I know! Took me a while to figure out what looked odd!
I never mind collecting light, it gives me the same rush as popping bubble wrap 
/A new generation of cape Ultimates without stars ?
Hmm 
I saw crazy discussion about this in gen live chat few days ago 
oH, it most likely is. The ultimate cape isn't really a cape after all, it's a rag that the Quest Giver treated as a cape. It seems like a really nice attention to detail imo
I really like it, gives the Sky kid a different feel.
It is cool. I just worry that its a bug since we havent seen it mentioned in the patch notes or discord that its intentional
So I'm trying not to get attached. But assembly has done a lot of cool stuff..so maybe it is intended!?
i think it is intentional, even because since this cape is asymmetrical it would be a nightmare to clip the stars on the back 
(and also because it has a very unique shape, too)
Ok but Imagine à cape with stars randomly positioned 
Edit : MOVING stars on cape
Did someone call the fun police??
skybot are you okay 
Now i just noticed that every realm has seasonal candles, rip my seasonal candles of two days

is skybot ever? 
radar honk would be rly useful to get players to help with assembly quests now that i think about it
thank god atleast the quests are in areas people normally pass through rather than unique new areas
radar honk? 
Yes, this! I almost expected it to happen what with the erroneous prompt when you sit down. But sadly, I fear many people hurry through Forest because of the rain.
I found a video on yt and I would like to share it here on discord. It's about the new AFK system. Idk if someone already posted it here but that's the link
https://youtu.be/8C06c-WNGFM
6 days enough with 150 snl candles to unlock all season cosmetics and props? New to beta
Since prices have changed you cannot unlock everything. You can get two items a day almost
Ohhh, nvm as anyhow will have in public 😅
I think the new AFK system destroy #looking-for-group-live and #beta-looking-for-group purpose. Except for four people handed mission OC .I haven't tested yet because I lazy to running entire realm and unable to skip cut scenes
Agreee 🥺😥
I understand it's purpose but I think it should only involve the tree and no other realms.
But bug hunting is my job now. Some graphical glitches and this #beta-screenshots-videos message
You know (I've moved on to acceptance), I hope when they do implement afk system, they actively admit that they are screwing over people who have accessibility needs that find the afk system do more good than harm .
I feel like that's how low the bar is for me rn ;;;;
Yes, for now the system causes many problems. But it's also subject to change a lot. 
^ yes, the 2 minutes is just for testing that the system works it seems, so I imagine we will see a lot of iterations from it before it ever (if it does) hit live
Let's just hope they will not make it serious with a 5 minutes limitation..
*But I remember people playing with controller say that it counts you as afk since you don't touch screen, hope they will think about it too because if switch release ever exist I'm not gonna play with touch screen
Hi everyone! I was finally able to download beta
omg somebody help me i cant finish my 1st seasonal quest
#beta-looking-for-group ? Or is it an actual problem with the quest ?
Im already looking for somebody to help me but nobody came
I would if i could 😭
Sorry to hear that bud, hope you find someone, I can't play right now
why you lookin for a chibi tho ? 
Lol. Contoller is already a controlling ur skykid its not like u use controller but ur not moving ur skykid lol are u kidding
@rare carbon i can help you with the quest if nobody has came yet
there is a missing fragment, under a tree.
Anyway i really hope tgc developer who thought about the afk system could understand that this system is a failure, if the goal is making a relaxing game. I really hope we can have sky back as before without this additional stress, also because some of the players are not children and don’t accept to get scolded anymore
🌚
If the afk limit stays I hope it’s extended to like. 40 minutes or something 2 minutes is too short
Man
why didn't I see that sooner !
genius
@patent mesa 2 minutes is enough, who needs to go drink or go toilet ? That is for the weaks. True braves only touch their screen 3 hours long without blinking 
2 mins is for testing purposes
it’s not about the limit. Someone is hoping for a shorter time cause already accepted this. It’s about the system itself that doesnt seem to fit Sky at all
Fool, only brave soliders tape the phone to their hand inorder to stay online 
it was said that 2 minutes was just for testing the coding to make sure it works!
The system is an overreaction by tgc towards people sleeping under the tree
(Why is beta slowmode now 2 minutes
no new features added its alwys season and cosmetics IAP , cant even make delete friend option or light all option ew tgc
You're right ! The real ones only look at it and the wax not collecting 
Yoooo ill send u qr rn thank u so much
that’s because people need too many candles, cause it got difficult to store candles for everything
It's tgc forcing a playstyle on people regardless
Daily Light, the blossom tree, the inbox, doing emotes while sitting/laying down, and the new assembly fetch quests are all new recent features. Dont let anger over something thats still fresh to being tested and getting our feedback cloud your vision
Its only been what...24 hours so far?
Reminds me of note hunters, players who used a feature as u usually do in game were suddenly called exploiters 
It is not that difficult actually and doesn't require getting a half candle by staying under a tree all night 
Also I'm pretty sure that people who've done this are like 70% "I wonder how many I get" but in the "what if" way, not even in need for said candles
Hii guys .... I want to get beta app please someone help me
If I wanna socialize I go to prairie lobby 
Welcome to sky! Enjoy your stay and enjoy freedom to express yourse-- I'm sorry what're you doing? YOURE HEARTING A FRIEND'S NOTE?? 
Idk if I'm correct, but the number was pushed up because it "degrades the value of hearts" and "people were using it for profit. Not out of good will. Always in hope of getting a heart in return" sort of thing
Not sure, I could be totally wrong
It's a shame, really :'')
Lol did my message just get deleted
Crying
Hearts are already disgustingly hard to get. What's being devalued?? 😭
Like black cape is 50 HEARTS even with "exploits" it's still disgustingly hard to get
I always thought it was more about the note discords, where people could get around 8+ hearts in one day sometimes? Not against players who don't participate in that. I still havent had trouble earning hearts from notes and I dont use discords for it, at least...
so
hear me out
"scolding student" is 100% the rich kid of the group
ok bye 
It was yesterday when many people ranting about AFK system and the topic is littlebit toxic
True, but its still no reason to call players who receive hearts by using a feature exploiting the feature its literally what the notes were for and im upset TGC sees it as abusing it 
i always talk putting myself in new player shoe
Tgc is highkey discriminating against players who like to grind and socialise at the same time imo
Also ayo see they're trying to silence people from saying their opinions about it because they know it's a bad decision @thatglowingskyduck#1725 (my ping won't work lmao)
And i see it's still going on now omg

Maybe a poor choice of words, yeah. The discords do feel like they were gaming the system, but I can agree that if those were the words that were used, it probably could be phrased better 
Who's silencing anyone here?
But ... But I can't even see all of my friends in my constellation and when I go to a shrine I see 2 friends messages and all the others are 200 to 1k 🤍 messages from random people.
How am I supposed to send love to my friends like this if I can't look for them ?
How is spending 40 minutes resetting notes to find your loved one's note to give them a single like NOT valuable as a proof of love ?
You should tell a dev this tbh :3
Increasing slowmode because too many people are complaining about the new system is kinda restricting imo
there are new beta, its ok talking about the new beta feature of the game, if u feel stressed out close discord for a little
Yeah but now it's ok now since the cooldown is 2 min
I hope 2 minutes and bring in live as fast as possible. I want feel the pain
messages are only deleted in this discord if theres banned words, like curses, abbreviations of curses, or harmful words against people. Maybe you made a typo or unknowingly included a curse word in it?
also slowmode lets us think out our thoughts before we send them. If they really wanted to silence us they could just shut down this whole channel. waiting 2 minutes to post isnt too bad! it lets us gather our thoughts and read what others have to say!
maybe its actually helpful so people can build longer sentences and more time to read them rather than the chat going nyooom
True. That's what I've remembered. And that could just be another Mandela effect 
And tbh, looking at how it is now
Is it really stopping the extreme note hunters ?
The notes ( excluding dailies. The cap is still 10 likes ) main purpose is for leaving messages. The heart was a plus
If it gives profit, people will find a way to get them on a daily basis.
I hate it too, I really do, but I have friends who would willingly help out, so it didn't leave a big impact for me ;;
In my opinion, I'm neither mad nor happy about the new system, I just found it 'unnecessary'. I suggest that they just add the 'Auto Grab' that most people want. You can just grab someone without offering a hand or do whatever. But add a Toggle for this so no one's gonna grab you out of nowhere.
Pretty sure it’s because otherwise people wouldn’t have time to read also the chat wouldn’t go nyoom
The slowmode is increased because this chat had massive traffic, not because anyone is "complaining". Nobody can have a productive conversation if all the messages nyoom past your eyes before you can read any of them
slowmode also happens during beta waves 🙂
True but compared to other chats in the server its kinda long
Yes! If theres one thing I appreciate about the sky fandom, its that we often do like to have thoughtful discussions. Beta chat has had some great talks about pros and cons in the past! It's hard to do that if everyones caught up in confusion or rage, so a slowmode can help us calm down and read/think first, which benefits a discussion 😌
Two sides of the coin 
Also, have you seen the messages that usually get sent here ?, Paragraph after essays !.
If there was no Slowmode, we would require the ability to read at the speed of light 
- Many people (me) ranting about google play didn't get Beta
- Many many people ranting about AFK, TGC and also day light
And so do i, I had to skip on my first 2 TS in order to have enough candles for regular constellations, then it is resource management, if you get your 18 candles a day you can get 2 hearts a day in trading with friends and still have enough candles for every TS, and if you trade only one then you get 3 more candles a day.
This is how I got candle comfy in a month. Being a new player doesn't last long if you understand what you are doing. Let alone leftovers of seasonal candles that are bonus bonus
Because this chat room has exploded since the afk thing bro🙂not to silence opinions. Other room no talkie about afk yet
The slowmode here was less than 1 minute yesterday, and not a single person could have read any of the messages. That's the reason why it was increased. Can't compare it to #general-sky-discussion or anything, since messages here tend to be a whole lot longer, since people are discussing complex opinions
I think the system would ruin me and my friends doing homework and ubering each other

Oh yeah, I forgot invites also happened recently
we definitely need the slowmode so we dont have a bunch of people asking about invites at one time AND conversation going nyoom about the afk system
Ohhh, google 
Patience is key, new Android beta players
Google is not only slow, but unresponsive 
Don't knock on TGC's door, go to Google's instead. They're the *true culprits u_u
( PS. From Ktjn, Google actually handles beta testing stuff much more better than IOS. Just, not with invites and seperate beta apps. Rip )
My condolences to the android testers. Since it toook over 5 months me and then me reclaiming my beta position to download ;;;
on the bright side, the system is a pretty new thing, so tgc might remove it seeing all the people against it
start typing out those math and history questions in sky 
iOS users don't realise how lucky they are with beta downloads 
In game calculator 
I bother my clueless friend with my game calculations. Poor her. Having to read all my useless and mostly incorrect calculations

are we talking about mOthematics again 
i dunno how much time you take for it, but spending 3 hours, or a little less even, to earn 18 candles, with no one dragging you.... well... it’s normal that people left the phone under the tree, IN BETA, and went to sleep. the needing of candles, to me, is not balanced with all. Thats why BETA players did that. Anyway, to me, tapping on the screen on cadenced rhythm is not a good behavior that reflects a good healthiness
I've got to go, but remember everyone to be kind and thoughtful with one another! No one here is your enemy, and together we can give feedback and hopefully help improve the game/the system
Skykids are stronger together!
Is google still not workin?

hey everyone, it's now 50 likes for 1 heart in non-medi shrines right? and then, how manh likes for 1 heart in medi shrines? (Pls answer, these changes weren't mentioned in the live game's patch notes—)

same
when the 5-heart trade was during days of love, all my friends had to listen to my calculations prooving it's not worth it during days of love
To calculate how much TS need to spend
I think it would be way more fair to not get any Heart from notes, rather than requiring random people's help in order to reach 50. This is not fair for people new or with few close friends compared to the content makers on the internet who get they're 2k followers trying to find and like their note
(And let alone those who look for "note liking" trades or something because I'm pretty sure this exists)
Not talking about daily quests notes tho, as this isn't impacted if I'm understanding right, I don't know myself I never go past 7 likes
/so basically
"Tune it down" or "none at all" ?
I like your thinking 
why google, whhyyyy 
Double heart event was more profitable!
To be fair, if tgc is freaking out about regular skykids having hearts, it's a valid proposition
To solve the problem kids having hearts, just don't give hearts owo
I love it 
Hearts have grinding problem for those have some friends
. . . is it still 10 likes - a heart for medi shrines? (thank you so much y'all! TGC why you no mention this in live
)
We did it boys !, Heart grinding is no more !
Gotta wait for 3 days, if its still not available.... 
I feel like they want us to spend more candles on trades? 
if it's still not available by 3 days, I'll. . . I'll. . .

True! One of my friend was like, plz dont send me hearts anymore
Not enough candle to give backkk
People already throw hissy fits when someone on live adds them via candle. U think they wanna heart trade?
(I swear I'm being playful D:)
This is also in response of me seeing a post where someone was like "Why are you giving me candles????" And it's a video of someone befriending them and unlocking their friendship tree
It's as simple as this :
Hard trying with suspicious methods will still get a heart if it's caped to 100 or 200 likes
But legal random innocent players with their 8 nice and close active friends will never reach this far.
Problem will not be solved. It will be worse.
So stop giving random notes Hearts to avoid expanding the problem
let us cri together 
Same i feel that friend, it pushed me to do full crs when i usually just farm 2 realms
me seeing a moth refill a bench using a candle 
Yo, I had to wait for a few weeks before I could download beta after snatching an invite 
If it says you're a tester, you'll get the app soon™ www
And Kyoh, don't forget about sky Influencers. Their notes...... anyways
That sounds like a better idea 
Exactly. By increasing the needed likes, only the most clout filled popular sky enthusiasts will get hearts while normal players suffer
I use to do that before I had a chair till my friend stopped me. Thanks friend
when I didn't have a chair before, I just went through around social spaces to find a bench to chat with somebody,
this could possibly increase hacking and/or abusing alt's (isn't that what you're trying to prevent tgc?)
Ah I was a lazy moff ahahah
I don't forget about them actually, but I find it not fair because they already get A LOT of stuff thanks to their community and sky is about friendship but let me say something hard and true :
A influencer's community are not friends, you don't have 2000 friends. You may have one or two dozens, but not 2000.
So it is very unfair for regular shy skids with 3 friends who don't get 10 hearts a week from friend's constellations + every message they write anywhere in Skyworld
@opal tusk I don't understand why people would hack more if you can't get a heart with impossible-to-reach 50 likes on a note ?
tbh I use trades as a main source of hearts, so I do get 7 hearts a week (maybe 8 if friends light back often), but it's a lot more expensive then boats and medi shrines
'Important! It may take some time to appear the Beta version in the Google Play store after you opt from Google Search. Depending upon your region it may take 15 minutes to 30 minutes."
This is from the google faq. Tbh i downloaded another game amd the access was instant, so it might be the beta version of sky having this issue only but don't take it for granted.
I think trading 3 candles a day with a trustworthy friend is way more affordable and Sky-concept-friendly and fair to every skyd,
Way more than screaming around the internet (in the best of cases) to get 50 people to like a message boat of yours
Moth was I when I didn't understand heart trading was not allowed here and now I'm grown and I understand.
So, hearts are a gift from dear friends to dear friends (simplified explanation I was given back then) and should not be encouraged by greed.
Do you think all 50 people liking your boat are dear friends ? Do you think every skyd is not-shy enough to get that many close friends ?
getting hearts from boats while relying on strangers wouldn't be that hard, come on we like every boat we click
(or maybe it's just me?)
I like the message if its my friend or if the message is witty
I like every boat, as many as I can. Especially at home.
Even if it's not friend.
As long as it has less than about 20 likes I just like the msg
anyways, have a good rest of your day! I'll go now 
i dont read boats 
I don't read boats messages either, especially if they are strangers. But I just go ahead and like them
and then remove the boats. I prefer a clean, boatless home

I only stomp on 200+ liked boats, and unless the message is VERY speaking to me, I don't give a like if it's not my friends
Omg I read "I don’t read toast" 
Except the veteran that finished entire Constellation.
Beta chat ded now, bon appetit to everyone that is having lunch time zone rn, good whatever time you are to everyone else
imma go
yey beta finally sleeps after all that

Fhshdhdhdhshsh just woke up 
Does using a vpn work, since beta takes a long time for certain countries?
Using a vpn is not recommended or supported by TGC. Please don't recommend, discuss, or seek help with VPNs in this server
After you are enrolled as a tester it totally depends on the Google to recognize you as a tester. That doesn't depends on your location. For some people it's faster for some it takes long and for some it doesn't recognize you at all. Please be patient and if Google doesn't recognize you then you have to join in next wave
are the
memories the same in live? I never knew he rides a dang manta 
MANTA SURFING MINI GAME WHEN
Yes, that change happened a while ago with the stadium update
honestly i wish we could manta surf in sanctuary
Imagine flying in the swarm of mantas and jumping from back to back 
@real hull hii laaras ... Can u please tell me in detail how u downloaded beta.... Does beta invite came to you?
how to change account in beta? it accidentally linked to wrong account and i would like to back to my old acc
Feels strange to see this dead but at the same time hes happy youre testing/taking care of yourselves

I sorta wish the manta call memories were not changed, I sorta like doing quidditch with like a dozen light fragments, not just one
Using a controller counts as AFK because you don't touch the screen for 2 mins
Eats popcorn in switch
I need to test it more, but I found that as long as I keep moving it’s fine. But if I let my Sky kid become idle, it won’t collect wax when I reactivate with the controller. I bug reported it.
what if the afk update is an april fool's joke 👁
Umm I needed help as I am pretty new to beta can someone help me out?
hi hi, ask in #beta-looking-for-group 🤗
I remember wanting to rant about the afk system again
Then I breathed and recalled fearbots message ( quote from ktjn )
The time is 5 mins just for easy testing purposes. That's not the "real" time
I did, but no one is active right now there so I asked here😓
Wish they'd tell us what the real time was. And even then. Maybe ..not implement it at all.
Honestly tho it’s just;;;; being afk is such a weird thing to almost be punishing players for 👁👁💦
please google lemme iiiiiin
... exactly. It's... just. Contradictory imo? They introduced daily light to get us away from Sky. And let us do real life stuff more.
And then .. well. Now this is .. lowkey forcing us to.. not do that.
/The tree camping, I don't accept, since it's really unhealthy for the person and phone
( Heard it also overloads something on the server's side?, Idk )
Getting ubered-type of afk is good on my book. Super good cause I can't type fast enough while ubering
At this point, if the cap isn't less than 30 mins/1 hour, maybe it can pass
Considering how broken Sky servers are ;;
If it's less, however
It's time to solo 
AFK farming is still a problem?
I just finished the seasonal quests and just wow. 
Though no one said you have to get candles... 
Especially when you don’t actually have time to play Sky...
(Lower prices and things should be fine? Already put that in feedback and might put something else in wishlist too
)
Yeah there’s a lot of little things that just aren’t adding up the way they probably intended— daily light was implemented so we wouldn’t get burned out cr and so we could focus on other things but people are having to spend /more/ time with cr and almost dont want to do it now :’))
And with this afk thing they don’t want players “abusing” the tree for light or taking advantage of people willing to lead them but it’s like;;;; such a small minority of players pull stuff like that so it feels weird to basically punish the whole community bc of that
I personally don’t care if people afk under the tree bc candles are limited so I can understand why people would camp but still it’s a mess (also this got really wordy my bad :’)))

I don’t really see it as punishment... I just see it as Don’t Play Sky — Don’t Get Candles, it makes sense 
A little intense 
Beta Users that uses controllers
it is said that you will be flagged afk if you don't touch the screen for 2 mins
they're dead serious, you don't get anything when you only use your controller for 2 mins
#beta-bugs-android message
so far Google is being a failure
Beta's build number? It doesn't show in my settings or on google play
Doing a bug report
**I don’t wanna look like attacking anyone, I’m sorry 
It’s just how I see it
an afk feature I'd support is having your skid do the same sleep animation as on the treehouse hammocks after a while, it's just so cute 
Hello everyone, I guess it has been asked for about a hundred times, but I can't find the answer as the chat is long. Sorry for that! How long is it normal to have to wait until beta is activated on your google account? It's now more than 1,5 days that it didn't work. Can I still hope to get it, or did something go wrong with my registration?
even if you move your camera with controller?
/Daily light system has proper potential. It really does. But it really needs more tweaking and development imo
The afk thing should punish players who leave their game on for the whole night. I feel like they're risking a lot of things just to get one candle 
"Don't play sky, don't get candles" I would apply this for some people I've met.
But how about those who switch leads every realm so they could work together to finish irl and ingame task ? Is multitasking a bad thing ? 
anyone waiting for Google's answer yet?
I hope they’ll fix that, it’s way easier to play using a controller for me 
If you do absolutely nothing to help the uber (if that’s what we’re talking about) then that makes sense but more often than not it’s friends ubering other friends — and if you’re not the one leading cr can be kinda boring bc music is only entertaining for so long and some people don’t feel the need to constantly talk so it’s 👁💦👁💦
It’s ok! 
it does not show to me either but I use 164405 coz it is the latest build and my app is up to date
Same as live?
If you got it then it will work. It took me two season for beta to let me in. For others it can be a week or less. Kinda random imo
current build number is 164405
Well yeah I guess... 
mfw the afk system is implemented in live
#beta-announcements message or refer to #beta-announcements if you feel that your app is up to date
do beta discussion share snl candle locations? does anyone have any image?
Ktjn's comment regarding the short time for afk ↓
#beta-discussion message
The duration is set short for easier testing purposes. 5 mins is not final
In beta you can find seasonal candles in every realm besides the first one
Just reported the bug, thank you
I just think the timer should be like 30 minutes — an hour long and things should be fine 
And maybe it’d be good if after another hour of being marked afk the game will just close for the poor phone’s sake 
"Oh, did sky crash ?"
"Nvm it said "game closed to save your phone from overheating". I'll log back on in a min hold on"
But does AFK rule means no chilling anymore in realms? correct if I'm wrong.
you can still chill
Afk only means you cant collect wax. Once you move again you can collect wax
I left sky on while I slept once, woke up to my phone completely powered down, had to restart it since it got too hot
(This was in live btw)
8 seasonal bunches scattered per realm (but not in isle), 1/2 seasonal per bunch, they're in the social area and first area 
It more so has to do with getting candle wax 😗 you can still chill but if you go afk you won’t be able to get wax until you interact with the game somehow :0
So if I click on the expression menu and stuff I won't be considered afk?
Aw crap I gotta go to school, cya guys
Like... I don’t think friends will stay around for 2 hours if you afk... if they do— oh creb they’re good friends 
Vault also has 2 on the second level 
Has anyone tried the shelter in eden storm since the update yet? 
Oh well I’m gonna go eat!
Bye bye! 
/Longest I've lead an afk friend is about an hour. From praire to forest ^^
Being able to afk for 2 hours on a single cr run kinda sus
/jk
It’s not even doable, since meditation and stuff will unhold hands, server splits etc 
#beta-discussion message
I thought about something like that when update went real
(If you're brave you Can Scroll up this linked post to read the whole idea)

I mean... if said friend is so kind to stop if you afk 
It's a bug, so it's good that you report it. What happens is that once your Sky kid goes into idle mode (if you stop all activity), reactivating it with your controller won't let you collect wax again. Just playing normally doesn't trigger the afk feature.
a full run with an afk friend is a nice challenge
a lot more doable now with a couple cutscenes that break handhold now removed
quick q, i have a really busy couple of days coming up, if i dont play till saturday cuz thats the soonest i can play again do you think ill get kicked
Lowkey I feel like cr is a great way to build trust with other people lol like “I gotta go do something real fast I trust you not to kill me” it’s nice almost 🥲
But yeah considering all the things we gotta deal with in game it’s hard to go 100% afk 👁💦
responding to the no reactions: ok cool i was worried i would get kicked
So what does everyone think of the abundance of props this season compared to few most other seasons?
100% afk people are either super busy or lazy 
It was a bug
Happens a lot to me since I have a friend who can only CR at late night, my GF and I Uber her and she tends to fall asleep around in Forest and if the hands holding breaks for any reason we usually stay a while to make sure she's safe until her phone battery dies or something so she doesn't go lightless because rain
Bless umbrella TS :stickerLove:
i like that this season has more than other seasons cuz theres more photo ideas and more ways to play around with the props
Fresh, super fresh
This season's gonna be a special one on it's own ^^
The innermost part of my brain, who had begged for a fast recharge prop other than bonfire, is satisfied
Use controller and flagged AFK, pathetic
That sounds like a bug to me. 
Me too. Maybe it was a bug. Also when you new at beta it seems all cutscene are unskipable
Even tho we have so many Props most are useless i see people using lamp and torch the most. Even if tgc adds some functionality to those if the props don't benefit in the daily game play, people won't use it. They all even look the same so people can't even wear the props for outfit.
was not afk at all, I use the controller to play the game
I have to tap the screen every now and then
just so I can collect orbs
I did not notice this before because I only use in game chat to talk to my friend
now we have voice chat, I exprienced it just today
When you're new to (almost) any games cutscenes are unskippable because you need them to understand what you're doing here 
Quietly cosplays as dora in beta
It's beta, and who watch cut scene's anyway.
It varies and TGC doesn't have control about this. As far as I've read here, this is on Google's part now. I advice unending patience since it may take awhile (for others) for it to be available to download.
I rate the the tent prop 1/10 coz it can only cover you from the rain, not your friends, for such wide area of cover
you are the only one who is saved
I think each has its own character to them
Personally I expect the torch and fire pot to be the most common due to their self recharge abilities but I can certainly see the others getting used for fancy settings and fun time to chill with friends. Fingers crossed we might see the same functionality for the props as the ones at the treehouse and maybe a butterfly from the jar. 
I currently heading to the vault for the cape and candles I can't have at live
I do and new Chinese people coming from nowhere everyday need the cutscenes and also since it's beta TGC could test out a cutscene change or something, sometimes the beta patch is used to go to live so they would not want to deactivate some main features just because you're new again and it will cost you 5 minutes on the whole moth run 
Oo wait jar prop will complete the yellow cape spirit from dreams cosplay 
Having 6 sprits following me is very nice
And and how could I forget but a way for your friends to interact with the props too. Shelter is lovely but it certainly feels like it needs to be able to protect friends and strangers alike if they want it to become solid. 
I mean, it's highly likely that the functionality and look of the back props aren't finalized yet, that's why they went with same-back-prop-look as they finalize them.
was planning to build a tent building
but you can't put on your friends' tent neither step on it
Imagine being a moth and seeing 4 tents stacked upon eachother in wasteland 
That look is actually intentional per #beta-known-issues, but I agree they might not be finalised yet. 
But I am collecting all sprits.
Skyscraper in Sky👀
People are creative and would manage it somehow even if it doesn’t quite go the way they want it to 
I was thinking to get together a group in eden storm myself

did everyone able to download the beta yet? or only me left 
Does the tend save you from the Eden rocks 🪨
I'm waiting too 🥺
we made a sort of circular tent instead 
At least making the props touchable for friends would be great for group screenshot settings and all, not necessarily strangers but yeah definitely friends
I missed one of the sprit at forest. dang Wrong ping BTW
Not related he just wanted to say hii harbin 
I’m also gonna go mess around on beta some more but it was nice chatting with y’all for a bit!! Take care

i wanna know more about the backpack. will it enable you to carry more than one item
but then i'd also like the option to carry just a hoop or a jar - they look stylish!
Waiting for it too
Bye
the chuckle spirit's mask is a D.I.Y. krill mask it seems
I loved the wooden sticks on the back from tent and hammock before they get turned into a backpack, I like it now but the sticks were YES !!
GOOOGLE WHENNNNNNN
maybe tomorrow

I think some people their beta got bugged. There's a simple fix but developer will hate it
There's a DIY KRILL MASK?
the one with sticks
Anyone got news about the teleportation portal hoop ? 
Never experienced this glitch so I dunno
Valleeey, here we come
his cutscene was giving the daydreamer a jumpscare
Do you mean 3 person holding hand one of the person don't get teleported?
I thought it was Sir Rythm cheap cosplay

Omg that's cute
both. he got inspired by both
Oh by the way how many seasonal candle out there. I found two realms have seasonal candles 
25 per day total
4 per realm (not isle and eden), 4 from quests and one from shrine.
8 nodes per realms except eden and isle
I don't know I once came and heard about hoop being kind of teleportation portal and then nothing more 
@frosty kettle cosplay of Sir Rythm cospalying a Krill. .
Cosplay of a Krill cosplaying Sir Rythm 
Let us wait together. ^_^
How’s chat today, yesterday was fire so how’s today
ah it’s better
OMG
Noted
Oo
I think it's better
I was about to rant all night but I simmer down before raging thanks to you guys :stickerPeace:
who wants to see krill cosplaying sir rhythm DM ME
New Realm Introduction Thinggy is so cool that scraped the current one
Choose one:
current daily light system to spend more time with friends
spend more time with the daily candle runs alone because you're tagged as AFK while running with friends
Daily Light
daily light all the way. if the afk thing comes to live, im out 
The AFK system won't be on main game. If it will only on certian event
Not relating to the conversation but
Last night I met this player (whose name translated to Huanhuan I'm pretty sure that's not how its supposed to be spelled though)
But anyways I friended them last night they were so sweet
And this morning I run into them on their alt account while grabbing my SC quests
SC quest?
higher than normal since beta houses fewer players
"as well as light farming in the world. " <<< directly from the update. it DOES affect the main game not just events. also I tested it you stop getting light on a candle run in the realms after 2 minutes.
Okay yeah that's true, you've got a point
I think is developer mistake make the entire candle wax unable to collect when AFK 2 min
Why not just limit the AFK thingy on those special passive lights and will not affect every candles on every realm
Dipping bird and stylus pen
oh im a bit confused, where is the quest giver for this season? i can't enter the secret passages
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
Go through the Forest Entrance (leaving social space), there should play a cutscene that shows you the entrance to the Treehouse! The quest giver is somewhere in the Treehouse 

Scenario: You're running with a friend and you suddenly have errands somewhere
Live system: You get every wax equal with the lead and you get to spend time together in home for some time
Beta system: You don't get anything while your lead gets anything, will make you RERUN again, losing your bonding time with that friend
So the AFK system broken have 2 reasons. One of the developer forgot to set only event and second the developer make this for a reason.
If we're talking about having more time with friends and less time candle running, AFK system removes those
they made it in the realms on purpose Ducky. that wasn't an accident, that was intentional.
The timer set is not final and I hope the final timer will be at least 30 minutes, so if you need to go afk for a little while it won’t make a difference. Just if you need to leave the game for a longer while, it’s better to close the game anyway for your poor phone 

two minutes is indeed harsh
still no beta
I know the timer is quick because of testing, just sharing my frustration
It’s for testing purposes :3
so, I still don't have the beta app, even though I an a tester, is it taking longer than usual?
I may want to ~~DM ~~on of the staff for talking about google play beta program bug.
I've been waiting too, it's probably going to take a while
My friend is waiting too 
sad;-;
#beta-discussion message this might help. I'm not particularly happy about it either. I kinda wanna address what others said earlier about how this very negatively affects people with disabilities who have to adapt how they play video games just to be able to participate. But I don't think I can word it as eloquently as others have
google is just being google, have patience 
i got lucky with beta i think
but, i didnt get lucky in triggering that cutscene with the quest giver, i got all the emotes so far but can't seem to find him (i'll look harder but, its android so i assume it having more bugs)
So that's why after some time I burn the firework I don't have any wax.
If you go home in the Treehouse and come back per return shrine, the Quest Giver should wave to you! (At least they always waved to me)
ill try that
i mean, i got the cutscene for the quest giver entering the portal like 4x when i opened the app lol
and frankly because of how this negatively affects people with disabilities, I'm inclined NOT to share the ways in which it is broken
Dang it, My phone battery died
oof;-;
By the way the manta call on valley is only need to collect one light only right?
Since there's only one light try to refuse my fire
Hi, I don't know if its just for me, but I can't complete the first mission of the spirit : I have to collect all of the pieces of the wardrobe thing, and there's a piece stuck inside of a tree... do you know how to collect this piece ?
As somebody who suffers terribly with anxiety and depression. This. Would effect me on an off day. Awfully so. Being forced to socialise ain't it. Chief.
It's inside the tree, need someone/you to oob
thx ! I guess it's time fore me to looks for some friends XD
Chibi fall
So if i understand correctly, google has a beta processing bug?
im at forest currently with someone trying to get it, while i cant find quest boi
I think so because it says I'm a tester but can't let me download it
Many ppl has this problem of downloading the app. (Me 2)
I have a personal problem with Google now
We have to wait and see 😭
google forum was down for like a while after the announcement, give it some time
Me is impatient and dats too bad 😭😭😭
Yo is that true theres gonna be an afk=no wax update?
i had a trash pc for like 5 years
i think i built patience fdsdf
I have a day of patience, after that its nowhere to be found 👀
Do ya'll like the fact that the afk update will happen? Cuz I sure dont 
it'll stop my partner from going afk and then getting hit by a million crabs in sanctuary so thats a plus for me 
In beta: 
Facts

Possibility

i mean the timer being 2 minutes is for testing purposes
if it grows for 30 minutes in live i think it will be fine
its better if people who uber get tired of uncooperative passagers who just wont talk in the run. or wont do anything engaging*
(because typing in the run is fsdffd hard)
Typo in sky in general is difficult anyway, I think
i know its freaky atm for like 2 minutes and no wax, but relax
they wouldn't push this update out of nowhere
i think afk update isnt bad if the timer not 2 min but can be longer like 25-30 min
If i need help do i ask here or is there another channel to ask for help?
After facing several people like that i know how annoying it can be. Especially in wasteland where you need the others to cooperate to as there's lot to burn and krills to avoid. I'm fine with semi afk people that help a bit. 
oh yeah im fine with semi afk, but more than 30 minutes and they let go of your hand and you have to wait for them? its painful
I already had a friend go afk on me on wasteland and it was a nightmare because we got hit and i had to use my campfires to keep him alive
(deep calling wasn't frequent enough to recharge him)
this might be the place
I think timer will be somewhere between 10-30 mins. For me 10 mins is average time that it takes to finish one particular area.
how much is a campfire spell again? i forgot, its all good because he gifts me the season passes
Just asking a question- are there wl to collect in the new season areas and if so, how many?
yea 10 min ok too but 2 min it just like
You think there’ll be a minor patch right before launch? I hope so, I just fear a repeat of the very beginning of Dreams is all...
Whatever the details may be, tgc should learn to be more specific about what their main goal is
like not mentioning 2mins is for test purposes
not mentioning number of likes needed for a note to get heart after new update.
I hope tgc conveys everything in a clear way in order to avoid unnecessary confusion and chaos
||ikik this is beta and we are supposed to test everything on first hand but come on we are not some fancy detectives to put together update info and solve it's puzzle||
oh god don't remind me of the start of dreams... the spirits... the quest... having to turn off wifi to get the memories and the cutscenes were broke because of the lack of internet...

2 min is just a placeholder time for testing purposes. We should focus more on the wax collection while afk timer is active and inactive. Most chaos is about afk timer being 2 min 
Imagine afk timer being 10 mins and then testing if it works 
i just have problem with new candle system and afk system hope candle system make skykid not slower and afk timer is start from 10 min not 2 min
is there still android players having trouble with playstore about downloading beta sky? :,D
like i never expected to get hearts since im a lone player for the most part, but 10 hearts was reasonable... 50 its just impossible
I know you NEED to forge connections with people, but considering my age its hard to socialize with people too young than me, its just dsfd interests and experiences seem like a huge gap
( i mean heart in the notes )
please tell me i am not the only one
You are not the only one
no i saw many ppl have trouble with it
Nah, Im still waiting
Goodluck to all Android people 
and the issue with the bloom tree, i know they are planing for more passive way to collect wax while you relax/talk
but then introduce the afk system because of the overnight players (i don't understand how your battery would last that long with sky) seems like a step back
Whats going on with the Android people?
Am I missing something 🗿
some people got accepted as a beta tester, but google play won't let them get the app
to put it simple
yeah, forcing people while they are trying to relax is a paradox 
Trust me people have done that 
I think tgc is doing it so people won't exploit the event. They want us to enjoy the event with our friends first. Wax comes as a secondary thing. It totally ruins the purpose of the event which is relaxing. It's not their fault if people skip the whole motive of the event and put wax first.
Where is the one spirit to open the cave for entering near treehouses? (new to beta)
wait a second w h a t
ok DL hardcore tester here, I have news
The new DL rate balance drastically decreased the required wax to reach 20 candles.
With the new rate applied, full CR is about 21.5 candles
Season of Dreams CR path will still yield 19 candles.
In comparison, Live DL rate is 20.2 for Full CR, 17 for SoD path
The only odd thing about this update is that the change of required wax from 1 to 0 chevron is LESS than from 2 to 1.
Also, some of you may have noticed that there is no actual hardcap. When the candle meter goes grey you can still collect wax and candle with a much slower rate. This still applies in the newest version.
You have to do the quests to open entrances. The spirits are at their respective tree houses. Not to hard to find 
Sorry for late reply (was at work). I didn't experience this myself when I tried yesterday, but I'll definitely have it in mind today when I test some more. 🙂
I am quite happy with the new update because it FINALLY matches what devs had promised about
(Full CR will still yield the same amount of candle, at the time of SoD)
Right now, you can spend the same amount of time as when you were in SoD, and still get the same amount of candle (roughly), instead of extending the Full CR time to reach the line.
You can definitely work harder to collect all the new wax to get ~2.5 more candles
I was watching YouTube video for quests it shows to entre via the cave to visit quest spirit but cave is showing it needs spirit to enter 🥺😶
Did you just start beta? How far have you progressed? You need one spirit from Valley to enter the new seasonal area. But it's probably best to run through the whole game at least once.
@hollow compass, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Yes new to the beta, thanks for letting know, i have first three maps spirits, and need othee 3 maps spirits
nah, it's okay ( ꈍᴗꈍ) we got our own priorities
take care buddy
Does anyone know how to report the bugs ??
It won't on the live sever I very sure. The rant spread to the instagram. 
What do you mean by season of dreams path?
Reminder for non testers, please don't come here asking about "upcoming features" this chat is for beta people to discuss and your message may interrupt the discussion. 
being less social and being completely afk are two very different things though..
It's also frustrating that they are making a specific step by step guide on 'how to socialize" when that's super unhelpful and not everyone does things the way the devs want them to
that means the full cr path in SoD live
2970 wax to be precise
just to clarify, is the difference between "full CR path" and "SoD CR path" whether or not we do the trials, or all the new wax spots? (or rather, does the SoD CR path include the trials is the main thing i'm wanting to know)
May i ask how does that connects to afk system? If you play alone then afk system doesn't affect you.
Well, ok, this was a confusing test, but here goes. Regarding controllers:
I tested it by going to the temple in Prairie, starting by lighting the candles by the entrance.
Then I ran around on the grass for about +2 minutes, ie I didn't actually go actively afk.
I then lit the candles by the pond, but couldn't collect them.
However when I lit the chat bench candle and sat down, I could suddenly collect the wax. 😮
What on earth is the game counting as afk for controllers, then? 
The appeal of sky for a lot of us was how open and free we could be in it. Be it candle running our friends who are busy, oobing or learning instruments etc. With these new updates, it feels like TGC is taking this away from us, which they might not be going for, but it’s how majority of us feel.
oh that’s interesting that you mention that because i left feedback that a lot of the candle wax needed should be left in the midrange (2nd chevron) so that getting the last remaining candles, anything past 15 candles, isn’t as taxing on players, if that makes sense
SoD path includes everything, it's also a full CR. Except that you don't have the new waxes BEFORE DL system
it's just for comparison. of course nobody will do a SoD path now since Trial and Vault are extremely profitable now
Again making unnecessary assumptions and pushing theories to limit will only cause stress. You are free to make assumptions and theories but treat them like it, just theories and assumptions. Untill tgc gives us more info nothing is fixed
Saying "it is" and "it may" is different
ooo that’s odd, maybe the act of sitting on the bench woke up the game?
i had to touch the screen in order to wake it up earlier
i found the quest giver
treehouse after i looked up a video
that cutscene never triggered for me
I wish there would be an "offline" button sometimes!
You have to walk through the social space gate to trigger that, now the cutscene only triggers near the gate
Ofc i love socializing but in the middle of the night i just want to chill alone in the forest, but friends dont know this..so they come😆
Oh no i did
but it never triggered
not to mention the cutscene of him entering the gate played 4x when i opened the app the firs time
Yeah, isn't it weird! I noticed that any inactivity such as not lighting candles or interacting with other things in the game will make you "afk" when using a controller. You can't fly for a longer period of time, for example. But again, this is a bug.
But the actual timer in the beta is 2 minutes?
The timer is just for testing purposes atm
You are talking about the cutscene that tells you where the seasonal area entrance is, right?
Yes, the timer seems to be 2 minutes. I suppose it would be asking a bit too much of testers to be afk for 30 minutes just for testing purposes. 
yes, i couldn't find it for the life of me
its really easy to fly past it
The cutscene should play when you walk though the gate, if it doesn't then it might be a bug
Be sure to not click the SKIP button!
yeah i didnt click anything, even walking thru the gate it wasn't triggering, i'll report in the feedback
season assembly is only but a few days away now, i hope these get addressed 
do we have ts in beta ? im new to beta hahh sorry
is it the same spirit as live ?
but has AP-Lock in it.
im not sure what that means
I clicked the link for beta invite and i waited but the app is still unavailable. I clicked the link as soon as i got the ping so i dont think i was late. i clicked it again and it said i was in so im confused
sometimes we get another ts for testing purposes, sometimes we don't get the live spirit 
Google bug
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits in beta have different scheduling than in live, and have no bearing on future traveling spirits.
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
You need adverture pass in order to get that item but in beta no worries bcoz ap is free anyway
what does that have to do with my question
its part of your question. TS in beta is AP-Lock
unfortunately the google beta app has been delayed for many players you may have to wait a while before it becomes available to you but it should come up eventually
that was my question ahah
yeah im not asking about the ts lol
google is just having a bit of a hard time making sure everyone who got in get the app, stay patient 
when invite link come b4 they start the new season which is SoD, I wasn't able to DL it but when the update to the beta app come. I was able to download it.
how do i buy the supreme cape if there are no more supreme hearts to buy? 😥
Wait what?
you won't anymore. they are not going to give hearts anymore. testing purpose.
So basically we have to wait till the next beta update
What I mean is that before you can get the items from that TS, you have to make sure to have Adventure pass for you to be able to buy the item.
😤😤😤
Atleast ill get the ultimate mask, bonus of starting the beta yesterday
I cannot finish the first task because there is a fower hided under a tree and I connot burn it.👀
If you have chibi potions fall under the tree
Oh, It's still on the beta for testing
Also ty to who helped me get into office. I now have the cape.
Sorry dear.. but if there any chance, you'll be able to get it.
I'm grinding hard on beta I have 1 and a half spirits left to compete 
Well u older beta players can't get it but I'm new as of yesterday so can get the ultimate mask for 1 heart that I'm unlocki g tomorrow. Thank u
Until some day the data wipe is a thing
Yes, its still on for testing. if you have time put some feedback on feedback channel.
Bold of you to assume I have the ults 
okay thanks!
I gonna hope this feature is have double selection, You can buy AP and get the some TS cosmetic for free or like old ways.
If they do that I will cry

Beta is for testing, so it's good to keep a wipe in mind even if it makes you sad. Don't hold onto your belongings, use Live for that 
Read #beta-faq again while you're at it 
But data wipe is very rare
That's what we thought too when more than a year of progress was wiped last time
Even though that time I don't even this game exist
I'm sure there will be a good reason if it happens again, just don't bet on your luck that it won't and stay emotionally prepared cause they do warn us
Ahah I see man I might not have much but some of the cosmetics I worked for qwq
And that's alright! Just a general reminder to all, especially with the recent beta wave, to not take beta too seriously because things can and will get bugged out, be wiped if needed, and there's no compensation even if a lot of effort was there
But having a AP and that cape. It will be a dream if the data was wiped.
Is there a max amount of characters in #beta-feedback ? Cuz I just realized the feedback I am writing is huge 
It was discord
Don't get too attached to your beta account and progress 
Normal discord limit of 2000 characters.
y'all here already doing testing while google is like
at me being a tester 
Guess my feedback will be sent in parts 
I guess I shouldn't but there's a lot of items I could never obtain in live on there
AP and Founders cape. I knew it
Same
👁️👄👁️ thanks mirian i wasn't sure
Please don't send your feedback as an image
Text in images is really hard to read and share!
Send it as a txt or doc instead 
The fact that my phone almost broke when i followed the recommended steps
Nono! Some of the iaps I have on beta I couldn't get on live i don't mind not having the founders cape etc
I will also see if I can make it a bit shorter than it is right now 
Yeah, while longer feedbacks are allowed and appreciated too, remember to be objective! Revising your post before sending or asking someone else to read it are great ways to cut off some rambling that inevitably happens sometimes 
My essay expansion brain comes i action while writing feedbacks

Just a comment, I don't know if I'd like this or not, but I'd kind of like the ability of trading cosmetics via the inbox system. It's be really nice to get items other players want and to remove items you don't want. Although that would create a whole new system and destroy the economy
Yep... I will send to some friends. Also not being a native English speaker makes me commit some mistakes xD
I am trying to be objective but I am trying to suggest solutions to what I see as a problem and all and then the feedback started to become huge
Brain dead when writing an homework essay
Brain Overclock at writing feedback to TGC
That's a possible inbox feature 
Idk if tgc will ever make it possible tho
I plan to buy the chibi mask in Live soon for that reason out of wanting to leave Beta; I’m too attached to my tiny Dancing Performer hat self
I think it won't. For prevent scaming problem
Without a fix to the first quest you have to glitch into where the last piece is
Chibbi? I don't have 😢
Would be nice to have little mail box in home space and be able to send messages to my sky friends ;u;
Maybe add a condition to send letters to friends like "U need to be friends with this person for 7~10 days to be able to send a letter"
as a full-time chibi in Beta...
subtle maniacal laughter
I cherish my beta kid some extra as the possibility of a progress wipe always hangs above our heads 
You can always ask for some help in #beta-looking-for-group! I hope you can get it, or a fix comes out soon 
Also, When I on Isle and unlock first expression, why the cosmetic just unlock it self and not other realms like Valley?
Has anyone tried using white candle? Does it work? 
isle mechanics must be a bit more streamlined, it's the tutorial realm afterall
Ugh, another wish, and I know it should go into wishlist and requests, but man, wouldn't it be nice that for the anniversary of sky we can all pick out one cosmetic of our choice. But hey, a Skykid can dream, right?
Idk the OG cosmetic price has change or not?
if we had this i would have hoothoot hair in no time 😭
We received a party hat last time :D
Sameeee 🤌
I'll get the deer mask then 
Everyone:
i mean owl hair best hair
but for being a beta enviroment i think all cosmetics should be unlocked once the season is done anyway
Android users that got in the last wave in season of Dreams. How much time did it take for the app to be open? 
I know some ppl that never got to download the app
24 hrs 😌
It's hard to say with Google. Some people get in immediately, some people waited for a few days or a few weeks. Some people never got access and had to try in another wave
I'd either get the bonfire or anubis mask just to fill out a nice aesthetic
And is the owl hair that nice?
just a few seconds, what took a while was watching the season opening cutscene that played 4 times in a row 
I'm still waiting 
Google is Google bug
I'm scared now TT
Ye, its been 1 day
I haven't been able to download yet
I don't know where to ask this but, it's been 24 hours already, I'm supposedly a beta tester, but I still can't download the app through PlayStore. I'm an android user ;( should I give up already or wait?
@quiet pine, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
if beta had all cosmetics available for everyone people wouldn't join for the right reasons 
When I became a tester in season of Prophecy it took me about 5 days to be able to download the app
You should wait
i mean the right reason is to test the upcoming / new content no? :V
I hope i can download it
If you are stuck in Google purgatory, just wait! Unfortunately, the reality is it could take a long time for you to get access, so it's best to check back every now and then but don't worry about it tooo much 
I'm gonna be real some of yall waiting on android download release will not get in :c since I got in on prophecy and I was never allowed in until the recnt invite wave where I left the program and rejoined and refreshed non stop until I coulld download so-
Also I did everything I was told and even went to google so-
And make sure to try the troubleshooting steps in #beta-faq if you haven't already. They won't for sure fix your issue, but they might
i mean if you're playing alone like i am, you can't even do the first assembly quest, since one part of the wardobe is stuck in a tree which you can only get if you have the chibi mask or a player
Guys it's mostly about patience when u become a tester through Google.
Yeah... some unlucky folks might never make it but I don't think these cases are a majority so just be patient.
ଘ(੭ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ✩‧₊˚
I don't know how people go afk for hours my phone would burst into flames 👁️👄👁️
GIVE ME THE TURBAN
If you join the beta when the link was out you will may get the beta immediately
oh yeah i know, i didn't spoil myself with youtube videos but i wanted to check the opening at least, but i didn't get the quest giver cutscene to play
(where his tree is)
Man some youtubers made a mess out of this 2min afk testing 
Afk drama is everywhere 
When on the battlefield golden wasteland and you already watch 20131 times open gate cutscene
Yes, misinformation is causing more chaos. 
Also, I’m so attached to my Beta self that I made a sort of character out of them - you know how some people have skid personas? Mine’s my Beta self, as that’s my only truly visually consistent self in-game
Dear fellow youtubers if u read this, when u do a video about beta updates at least give all the information to the people. Clickbaiting is poison to the community.
And also Youtube
Guys somehow writing a feedback about afk system made me way more calmer about it, so just write in #beta-feedback. Write about why u dislike it or not and what solutions u see to make the system more comfortable or why it shouldn't exist in ur opinion. Take your time to make TGC understand you. And please always be respectful 
sadly I already did that ;;;; at this point I'm ready for the afk system that's going to be absurd and super inaccessible
I’m really lazy in Beta but will continue the...well...sort of legacy...by grabbing the very special mask
planning to uninstall Beta soon for several reasons despite attachment to me skid, and a handful memories
they will be reincarnated
I’ll become a lurker again, and I’m OK with that
Well that's pessamistic
i mean youtoob gonna youtoob
thats why i wanted a beta account, to check and confirm info myself because man, sometimes they don't read or read too much into it
Take your time, TGC don't read 10k of feedback about the afk system in one day
considering last night a few devs came in and chatted with us and the vibes (keyword here) they gave was how /badly/ they wanted the afk system and how it's "going to make sense" (Despite it's INACCESSIBLE FOR DISABLED PEOPLE), I have 0 hope.
KEYWORD IS VIBES. THEY DIDN'T SAY IT OUTRIGHT BUT THEY KEPT ASKING ABOUT "but afk could be useful right???"
“Beta Spoiler”
[shows everything on it]
i mean the timer is wack in beta, but i don't think its making it inaccessible tho, if it ends up being 30 min you can make your skykid honk in every 20 min or so, with like one tap
my Beta skid’s name is Shalev, they’re an absolute lazy mess
I still see no advantages about the system :3
If the issue is passive wax collecting they should add a max amount of passive wax that we can collect 
All I hope is that the timer will be something like 15 minutes at least 
The system can be beneficial if it's triggered automatically when servers splits so people won't die in forest or wasteland.
Like, there's one thing where there's opinions of "Oh I don't like this because it's inconvenient/kills social purpose etc."
And then there's the fact that my disability makes it really hard to stay on phone constantly interacting non stop really REALLY hard and legitmately painful.
But I guess my disability is an opinion so forgive me if I'm pessimistic
Oou my betakids name is Vex
you're assigning malice to TGC. the fact is that this is beta, the timer is probably pretty short right now so they can compile lots of data on how well it works, and will likely change in more than one way before live
Oh gosh, I hope you didn't get the wrong idea that we were invalidating your disability! To be honest, a lot of us are thinking that this will be an obstacle in at least some way, I was just saying that thinking it won't ever change in and of itself was pessamistic
me with several neurological issues including generalised anxiety that can be rather bad, sometimes I come on simply to calm down from things
and sometimes don’t feel like socialising which my only fear with this is to be heavily discriminated against in-game, but that’s the worst worst possibility which is...well, definitely unlikely
i mean, i think people are a bit sore with tgc right now, because of the chevron system already
and then throw a afk penalty? a bit too close
Beta moths are cute 
Beta anything will change, I hope devs will put some string number and says not final product.
No offence, being disabled and being used to systems and structures that are specifically designed to keep disabled people out, I'm just stating my experiences with things like this.
Yeah quite some things happening at the same time or atleast close to each other 
I actually have anxiety so with the new system my anxiety went up, maybe is an exageration but me doing other things like homework but constantly thinking about need to touch the screen to not lost wax is distracting and everything
Bad time to walk in? 
im a doomb beta moth that should have gotten the torch to not die in the forest since i don't got the umbrellas like my live account
but peanut brain went hee hoo braid hair 
braid hair
braid haaaaaair I need it
For Example. 0.13.0 (latest)-This build is not represent final product.
The chevron system is a change, but a change for the better in my opinion. But it's true that every major change in sky has resulted in a week or two of dumpster fire. People use hyperbole a lot and it turns into vicious cycle for a little bit
after i got it i was like 'wait... oh no im such a dummy now i gotta recharge next to the fire constantly'
I read bread hair 
I actually really like the chevron system for reasons including I feel less obligated to CR - but can respect that some people don’t
I hear you on the disability angle. I do programming and way too often see ADA compliance treated as a rubber stamp. I know this goes way beyond Sky
i tested both ways to gather candles with the new chevron system live
in the first day it did make me upset because it felt for the run i did wasn't enough candles for the ammount of time i wasted
I think the system definitely needs adjustment for the most frequent complaints - that it will get
and don't get me started on the trial candles, i hope to never go to water trial ever again
Yes, i like how people forget all of the previous things that tgc has done for us as we demanded and jump to conclusions of things. But also in general people tend to focus more on the bad side of things 
Trial candles, Who make this idea in the first place
Im ok with the new candle sys, i get why people dislike it, but Im thinking about the benefits for people with less time who work or study
Imo trials water-air aren't even that hard, it's just fire trial that's pain

I’m against trial candles but understand them in the sense of ‘if you want to’
also a potential reason for replayability
I believe tgc wants us to let go of our attachment of candles by putting them in trials

Earth trial is just fun parkour
It’s gonna be a hard thing to do for a game that made candle running the same as breathing
I.e - it’s as required
i prefer going thru the fire trial 4x in a row than water or air
its slippery everywhere, the screen flash to white if you keep sliding down and makes me dizzy
its just BAD overall
I prefer water, its the easiest
The air trial is my personal struggle. And earth trial is very difficult when using a controller for manual jumping rather than approximate flicking
Can anyone explain this meaning #beta-screenshots-videos message
No really, the candles outside the trials are more than enough for game play. You cannot unlock everything in one day, the game is supposed to be like that
unless playing sky in my switch with a actual controller would be better and not slippery or when your sky kid wont JUMP
Exactly. Sky isn't a game you finish in one sitting
The shepherd system. It's a mysterious system that ranks your friendliness. We don't have much info about it. You can ignore it if you want 

👀
Neyes 
Funeye 
I was thinking is that a reputation system because we krill too much moths
eye see
how it functions is currently unknown afaik.
I kinda miss getting flung by krill when using the home trick 
Not a rep system. If your friendly enough, the game will let you see new players by placing a symbol above their heads. New players cannot tell who are shepherds. It just makes it easier for those who are more likely to help moths to find them
I like having the candles in trials. it gave me a reason to visit there again, more than just the WL at the end of each. I want the soot sprites to explode into light we can collect at the end of fire trial
But increase the time of cr if actually want full cr. Like me I will go trial for wing light
if sky continues to grow at the current pace, I think full CR will eventually put someone in the hospital. I'm not even kidding. When I started playing Sky, a full CR was less than an hour
hello all! Hope everyone is having a good beta day
Took me a minute to understand soot spirits 👁️👄👁️ 
Interesting name
make full cr worthy or candles cost less
altho i wouldn't buy candles, too expensive
When I play this game on 2020/7 I think I don't even know what is candle. And cr
That's what i like about moffs they are free of the affection for stonks 
I only do fire trial with my friend. We have a strategy for whenever we go together
Moths are honestly so pure and innocent, even if they mess up candle runs from time to time. Still super cute
So on a side note.. the only realm that doesn’t have its own dedicated season has been vault 👀👀 sooo maybe it’s vault next time!!!
only until you unlock chat
And try to throw them into flame
I just burned them. someone get the moths some aloe
or trying to kidnapping you
I just forgot that I'm able to test the next season 
In some cases that just makes them cuter because then they can gush about the game to you
(in live tho, beta moths usually know their way around lol)
If you on android you can play beta whatever you want. Until the data wipe came by.
Aha, I guess I haven't seen the bad side of moths yet! I'm more of a solitary player, never ubered before or made deep friends despite play time. Plus truth be told most moths or players I've come across are speaking another language 😂
I thought data wipes don't happen anymore?
The first thing i tell a moff after unlocking chat is cr. So yes- 👁️👄👁️
Also, I try to copy Ktjn for getting 999 hearts cape.
@static saffron It will happen but it's rare. Depend the Developer
They could .. at any point in time. Progress wipes can happen when the devs it to happen
I can't even run a full cr right now without literally passing out. so I probably fall in the would end up in the hospital category.
afk system worries me like others with disabilities have mentioned because I rely very heavily on ubers. I listen more than I watch so I'm not actually interacting with the screen. but I"m still being social and regardless of whether it was their intent or not it felt like this update was accusing me of taking advantage of my friends or exploiting the game for adapting my playstyle to a way that I can still play without winding up on the floor (or worse falling down the stairs which I almost did once).
I just hope they realize with feedback that this perspective exists because the game has no way of knowing i"m in a voice chat or typing on a chat app that won't make me dizzy while I listen to sky sounds and they drag me.
I don't usually unlock chat with anyone but people I know outside the game. I do like seeing new players though, and seeing the excitement, remembering how deeply impressed I was the first time I played Sky and wondered how they managed to make a mobile game so beautiful
When I first played sky as a moth, I thought I was smart for thinking that you could go back to an area you already collected candles in and recollect wax! Turns out devs were smarter 😵
If afk was a thing on live there's no purpose for #looking-for-group-live. Except for 4 handed mission and something else
Doesn't afking at the tree only give 2 candles?
Man, as a moth I took every realm suuuper slowly, like a day each just to absorb everything, and viewing players all decked out in fancy outfits and capes just looked so amazing and pretty to a moth like me
But until for those have Snapdragon phone's having screenshot AA issue.
Sound isn't half the experience anymore, then?
I understand the reactions of many: regardless of the reasons for disliking AFK timer, for anyone who has experienced an impact on their play style it's easy to let emotions get away and think that some segment of players are being ignored or disrespected or told how to play. I have to say again though: this is beta so expect it to change. There's lots of valuable feedback already, but remember to play as well and note how the changes directly affect your play style
Beta, any thing will change by a small #beta-feedback channel. Just make any thoughts on that channel and they eventually will scrap the system.
When i was a moth i wondered why people go near candles i never knew the importance of them at first, i was like "shouldn't they be getting spirits?", And i also thought the random name was their actual names

Tbh I don't get the afk thing either, I always tell my ubers that if I fall asleep and don't respond for too long to just leave me, and a lot of ubers I've been with have left a person behind if they were afk too long as well 
Imo at least for ubers as long as you let them know they don't mind ppl being afk. Personally I like seeing passengers interact but talking to them while I'm leading would slow me down so idk. (I'll write feedback later)
Oh dear God, I remember when I went through the game around 5-6 hours, nonstop, cause I was engulfed with everything that I was seeing. A little bit too long.
I had a slight headache afterwards, but man it was fun to see a lot of stuff after a long rest www
The crazy thing is how when I first played the shiver spirit was in valley (which made sense!) but then sometime they changed it to forest haha
When I being ubered I only semi AFK.
👁️👄👁️ shiver was never in valley
Or was it :pHuh:
I actually tried to AFK on purpose and it was really difficult for me to avoid touching the screen long enough to trip the timer 
Hmm , AFK overnight for that tree.
Phone Temp: 999.C
Yeah I'm never truly afk, just have it off to the side and earbuds in my ears while I do homework or draw (when my friends uber)
Same, you never know when server splits or something so it’s always good to keep a side eye on the screen
I rarely full afk now, ever since daylight savings pushed reset one hour early, my cr run ends immediately as praying hours start.
I take a break, irl things, and then jump back in for a while to send out hugs, or chat
Or get dragged
And then fed to the Krills
But that's another story-
Who will been soooooo that poor and really don't have time that you need AFK for 2 candles.
or one of those dreaded level breaks when your uber forgets to stay on the ground, and everyone ends up in limbo
What about those cutscenes that trigger everyone to let go of each other hands- Uber starts honking to recollect the children 
Who even has energy to go to isle and vault 
I just candle run with my friends and they drag me while afk, so I trust them and if the server split they come to me and start to honk like crazy, so i can afk without problem
Wasteland transition zones are a pain 
Hello testers! I've got a question which i posted in #beta-screenshots-videos #beta-screenshots-videos message (i wasn't sure where to post it because of the vid)
Well vault is nice cause it only takes like 20 minutes, especially with a the extra candles added
Me, When the candle cakes was on vault
I was in a voice call last night while my friend dragged me in forest in live. Game would have flagged me afk on beta even though I was listening to sky and talking to my uber in voice chat. not sure there's really a way for the game to even know I'm in a voice call outside the app and there's no way they're adding voice call in game for safety reasons
I'm a bad uber. people with me have to know I will never wait for them
Oh yeah i definitely go there if there are candle cakes for vault 
I
I like doing isle on my spare time. Two more candles is not as bad as I thought
Well, not always 2 candles, but you get my point ^^
The spirit even had a bun on the back :O it’s crazy’s such a shame I thought the game ended after Eden though ;-; I never thought seasons were gonna be a thing
So when I logged in during enchantment, I was like “wow a completely new area I a]never explored I missed so many things in this game!’

try this: play in a normal way on live and use a stopwatch. time intervals between times you touch the screen
I’ve just seen someone with 15 wedges O.O! How did they get that
Did you get a screenshot??
!reportfaq please report them 
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
But if you're constantly flying you're always touching the screen
unless you play controller
I never mind if my friends are afk, I'm happy to help them while they do other stuff, that's what friends are for right
Same
Actually i stumbled upon enchantment by accident as a moth, while i was exploring the area, i didn't know i wouldn't get to see those spirits again or collect candles to get their acc
Ohh okay! Thanks
Thats why i love you 💖 
context is play as a passenger
There's only 11. How?
Sorry for the interruption but how long was the beta opening window this round? I was sleeping while it was open so I don't know
Ah ok time to get an uber then 
love you too! <3
It was around a couple hours for all invites
Its a hacker 
@fickle stirrup it was open for 3 hrs
We actually drag each other so thats okay 

My girlfriend never touched the screen last night when I ran us through forest and gw until we hit the two player plant in the last area of gw and forest temple. Vault quests, I just oobed instead of opening 4 player doors. She wasn't afk. She was enjoying the game through my phone's casted screen on the TV...
I tried sitting under the tree with 3 chevrons in live today to see how many wax it would give, took 2 hours for a whole candle so I don't really understand why TGC is so upset about people sleeping under the tree
Quick question, are we still supposed to pick up tea cups after 3 sips or is it a bug?
I feel like that somehow would make me more dizzy trying to keep track of that all than just trying to touch the screen every 2 min. can say I've gone full candles runs with only touching my screen at Forest where it breaks hand hold for the cutscene before though. some of my ubers have cultivated entire candle run routes over "full afk" people because they find it fun to do things sneaky ways. (i.e. rocket in vault and chibi glitching through doors that would break handholds to open) oops forgot to hit reply
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
I left my kid all night under the three and i didnt recieve anything
My guess is that they did it for future events which might give wax differently
My phone almost burn for nothing
oh, the update made it sound like it would be implemented because of blooms
Hi! I signed up for beta over 24 hrs ago, and I managed to get in but it's telling me the app is full in the game store. Is this a common issue and how long do I have to wait? 😓
Actually thinking about when I was doing hw and being ubered, I rarely touched the screen
depending on the area and how fast the Uber is ofc, but I think yeah maybe 5 mins at some point I think if I got an Uber now since I don’t have something else to do I’d skew the data 
I was just going through some of my older recordings of the game from when I as a moth, it looks like the brown to purple gradient existed before in isle? Could it be at some point they just dropped it by accident and then brought Ti t back?
I think most of us are aware that its beta and things can change, however the wording of the announcement didn't sound so flexible for me in changing anything but times. 
It's a common issue unfortunately, and no one can really tell you how long you have to wait. Follow the steps in #beta-faq and be patient 
It is implemented because of the bloom but i think they also thought of how the behavior that they saw in bloom might affect future events
i feel if you risk your phone exploding overnight you deserve all the extra candles 
Google just does that every invite wave 
Thank you so much! 
Right? I burned myself with my phone 
3 candles vs buying another 400$ phone. Who would win? 
@zealous tendon hi, please delete your picture in #beta-screenshots-videos
we dont wnat to give them attention 
oh, for sure! i didn’t know if it was a new feature or anything. thanks for letting me know!
also I know TGC said that they want to discourage anti social behaviour but I think it's fun sleeping under the tree and then waking up to see strangers or friends have joined me, makes it feel like a sleepover
My friends and I sometimes hold “vigils” in live, occasionally involving a bonfire and/or table, around people who accidentally fell asleep
Now my fav thing is to put tea set on afk players so they look like they are chiling and drinking tea 
I am usually the one who fell asleep
one time I woke up in forest to someone who probably also fell asleep next to me with their umbrella out. didn't know them tho
That’s so nice
afk does kinda bring about it's own unique social interactions like that. the amount of times my friends found me passed out and made friends with a different friend of mine who was just chilling with me is more than I can count.
how can i be beta not in live
@keen prawn, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
2018: Candle run under 1 hour
2021: Candle run 3 hour or more
Or get us all krilled. 
2025 : candle run 10 hours
Mirian talking from experience? 
Tbh, even on the few occasions I do tag along with others, I am always moving the camera or bringing out my candle. I am not particularly worried about an afk switch for myself.
But afk is socially disengaging. That scenario wouldn't be possible.
I remember playing another MMO with player housing. My "guild" of sorts (called free company in that game) would have fashion shows in the FC house. I would get the AFK tag all the time as I didn't "participate" in the shows, but was in the audience and watched the other players perform. We didn't need to interact with the game since all of us were in a Discord VC channel.
I see me doing the same if Cake played in that spotlight in the treehouse. What the game considers AFK, but just enjoying a performance from a friend.
I hope ones assembly will be in live it will be easier to do the quests :|
But I thought most of the worry with going afk was that you would lose out on wax? If being considered afk because you’re listening to someone playing music it could hardly be a problem. Or am I missing something here?
Considering Live has much more players than beta, definitely!
Same here. For some reason I hate being completely AFK during a candle run where I'm getting an uber. Even if I'm doing schoolwork at the same time I can still find a few seconds to touch the screen and make sure everything is going okay. And if I for some reason need to leave to go quickly do something I'll take my phone with me or be super quick about it.
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
yeah I hope, after the season tho its gonna be a bit tougher getting help
Like the trials 
Im that kind of person to bring my phone to play sky while in the bathroom 
yeah but trials you can do alone, you can choose to do them with friends and with asembly you are kinda forced to have multiple people :(
True true 
i found a hacker where do i report em
!reportfaq
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
Just making sure here-we can get around 4 seasonal candles in each realm right? 
I don't wanna miss any 
Thank you! 
Wow beta testing never been alive like this unless: new thing add in beta or new invite wave

What is the current build number it doesnt have any for me and i cannot report bugs does anyone know
#beta-announcements Sky-Beta v0.13.0 build 164405 is the latest version
👌 thank you
Google doesn't want me to download beta. 😪
Sadly there's not a whole lot anybody can do , there. ^^'
The loops areound the tree house are so fun, great flight practice!
I love the more modest look of the star less cape. Literally every other cape has stars so if you just wanna show your wing strength there’s plenty of options but I really hope they keep that one starless
i was wondering if that was bc the cape was still in dev or if that was intentional.. 
Tried to do the quest with loops… but it does not appear to be working. Like when we go back to the guide, it looked like we didnt do the quest at all
Fresh experience in beta: Saw a stranger coming down into valley ice rink when I was lighting up seasonal candles. I stoped so we might be able to greet each other. The stranger flew through me, collected the light with 0 interaction.
To me, having the need to do candle run efficiently can be one of the big reason of less socializing in sky.
Interestingly, it seems strangers I observed that would "ignore others" are mostly playing alone
And unfortunately If the afk timer is included, it gives more reason to go solo
hey guys, i don't actually play in the beta version, but i do normally watch stuff about it, like recent updates n stuff but am i still allowed to talk on here or no? cause i'm fine with spoilers-
going afk for a long long time doesn’t sound really realistic either because you’d have to help your friend out opening a door, or when you enter a new part of the realm and you need to grab their hand again, or going home
The commentary, attacks, condescension and disssimissive attitude I've see displayed here in last few days on the part of players, mods and even devs has lead me to no longer wish to be present on skycord for the time being. I wish you all the best.
I mean how hard would it be to just honk once when you literally bump into someone for the candle
When I go afk in sky, it’s with an umbrella in forest, for the background noise
And I don’t play with others at that point
That’s the only time I’m really afk for hours
I don't see any issue with it but it would have to be related to beta. I would come on here as a live player and ask questions about beta because I wasn't sure where to find answers in the FAQ
@dull tiger, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
moth with tea set said Bonaserra what does that mean
When you still can't get into the beta
I havent play in beta even if im a beta tester now, because google doesnt let me download the beta so my opinions are based in what i see and read from others, so i dont see the issue about you
ah thanks!
People in live questions will direct live players to here if they ask about beta stuff so it's fine :)
It means good evening in italian i think
What will happen to the items in the quest giver constellation after the season concludes
I'm not asking them to light me up, but just not purely ignoring me
@finite coral they will probably stay and still be accessible from the quest giver in the new area but idk
I think is a thing about being polite tho. Its like irl someone say to you "good morning" just to be nice, not to befriend you, and you ignored that person. Thats rude.
That's also a cultural thing. In some countries people just don't greet strangers.
I wouldn't let it bother me in Sky either.
You’re allowed to talk here but this channel isn’t for asking testers what’s new in beta
Yes, no one owes anyone interaction, but it's what devs looking for i think
Yeah, but if someone from other culture say something you nicely and you straight up ignore that person, like not looking at you or whatever, you are not respecting their culture, its not hard to do an emote in game
Imagine if devs made it so that chevrons were powered by lighting and interacting with friends 
Sometimes I play without sound on or I'm not directly looking at my screen while flying around. It's not like I'd be ignoring someone honking but assuming someone is purposefully snubbing you is kinda weird.
And i say this from a person who have problems being social.
I usually don't light others because I don't want to socialise with every single character I meet tbh
It might be rude but it's also rude to force someone to go through with lighting someone by chasing them and not just walking away
The fact that is a social game 🤌 but whatever, you are not obligated to do those things, just you are not obligated to be polite or a lot of things, but is nice to have those people
and again, devs are looking for more opportunities for socializing and maybe what kinds of feeling you can give to other, that's the point, what kind of game play you think can provide more opportunities for socializing
Dear developers at TGC,
I have seen that there is an attempt in Sky beta to prevent people who are AFK from collecting wax after some people were abusing this to collect wax at the blooming tree over night.
I am extremely unhappy about the way this seems to be executed with players not touching their controls for two minutes being denied collecting any wax. For me and my friends it is very common to voice-chat or video-chat while flying and farming on sky. Often the friends being lead will be there, talking, joking, laughing while watching their screen but not directly interacting with the game. The game would then deny them colleting any wax – without the leading one even noticing the fact.
There are also the situations where one would be asked to lead while the other needs to be away for a bit and that would take a few minutes (getting something to drink, a family member interrupting, change clothes, toilet break!).
I feel this change is very unfair to players helping each other out.
While I understand that you want to go against players that leech off others while just being inactive, I believe you are going way too far.
If someone is uncomfortable with somebody tagging along afk they can just unhold them at any time or even block them. There never was a real problem with that. And if it’s a nice friend with currently little time at hand, then I don’t at all mind helping them.
Also, the behaviour that triggered you to make this change is directly related to the blooming tree giving endless(?) light. Don’t you think that this is the thing that you should re-think before making any other changes? And the tree will be gone by April 4th anyway.
I implore you to re-think this. Not everyone who seems AFK to the game actually is. Also what am I to do if my girlfriend falls asleep on my hand again?
@fallow dome this channel is for discussing with other players, if you want TGC staff to read your message please send it in #beta-feedback
Yeah, thats scary, but this wasnt the case
You can still discuss here, but long text walls are discouraged as they do not promote constructive or engaging discussions with others 
Sometimes, I feel lazy or tires to socialize, it is too time consuming especially in sky if I stop every single time when I met a new player/stranger to respond them, 24hours is not enough for me 🤣 but I'll still lit stranger when I'm ready to socialize, sure we will meet our soulmate when the time and fate has come 😌
back to my point, having the need to do candle run efficiently can prevent people from socializing
@radiant drum🌸
Okay, thanks.
I’m a noob here 🙂
Welcome to the server!
isn't face palm beta content or was it an old emote?
As someone who's autistic I very much agree. I have had many friends think I dislike them because I come and go at will without putting much tought into it and sometimes I may be more silent or hyperfocused on certain tasks 
I wanted to leave a boat ... but i typed too long and ended up flagged as afk so my messgae got sent into the chat
Fair enough, I joined somewhat late to this so I'm not completely aware of what happened but you know, I just wanted to put my opinion out there 
i didn't say that, the point is not how I want others play, is how the game enables others play
no ones forcing you to light anyone? we’re just saying if you’re constantly doing that and ignoring someone who might need the light it’s a bit rude. i don’t wanna light back people either sometimes but if i notice they’re out of light and need it i’m gonna light them lol
being like "this player is rude for not doing X or Y" is just asking for strangers to bend to your own expectations on what is socially acceptable or not, which is just like what TGCs doing with their AFK system imo 
A hopefully quick question. The quest giver constellation should be season independent, correct? (Excluding the 4 ultimates) My season completion shows as 99% even though I completed all season spirit trees and have the 4 ultimates. I can’t get the bookshelf because I don’t have 30 hearts so that’s the only item missing (which is weird because I know I got it previously when it had cost season candles, but this is beta so that’s fine). The bookshelf shouldn’t count towards season completion as it’s linked to the treehouse quest line - am I correct? btw I can’t wait to test the promised features that somehow connect all the props and make sense of it all.
oh a fight is going on here i am going to head out 
the seasonal quests are now part of the seasonal completion percentage -- i'm guessing the bookshelf being in the QG tree means it's also counting to it as well now
Quests count as season completion even though they can be done after the season is over, so it's probably the bookshelf you're missing - too slow 🐌
Im a person with agoraphobia, social anxiety and anxiety in general. I know what you mean, like i know my case is not that serious in social interaction like yours, but i sometimes just stay quiet, however if a person is nice to you or whatever, is not that bad to do a bow and just go, i think is just being nice to have a better community. However this is my opinion.
It's beta content
Yeah, when a person just dont want to be light and they run, the better thing is just let them alone haha, i feel bad making them uncomfortable tho
You're right though and it boils down to consent. I have the right to accept requests to help people. I also have the right to refuse
Facepalm was an old emote that was removed and recently introduced in the Season of Assembly (that is currently being tested in beta right now)
It always takes a super long time to find the bow emote for me and by the time I find it the person walks away
Different people may have different ways to communicate! Theres also a chance they can be new and do not know the in-game etiquette. It personally took me very long to understand it myself.
yes yes i agree with this. i think we just had a misunderstanding. like if someone’s literally dying we would help them
this is a sameee hahaha 
sometimes people dont stop by to help me with a "sit down with a stranger" quest even though im honking and theyre right in front of me, but its whatever tbh?
maybe theyre in a rush, its not a good thing to assume the worst of everybody, which is what i think is most important
btw isn't this page a beta discussion page i dont usually come here but when i came here yesterday too there was a fight
This reminds me of the time I was with my friend guiding me on a CR on Wasteland and I noticed a moth dying on the polluted water. I IMMEDIATELLY took her in and took care of her. The next day she showed me her sister who was also a moth. I guided them both through some winged lights before taking them both to eden. They are fully grown now and I'm proud of them 
lol i wouldnt say fight, just... intense. its certainly an issue a lot of players care about since it was something introduced in beta
discussion = fight = argument = discussion = fight = quarrel = wholesome = WE ALL LOVE SKY
Yup, but the thing is that even if its different theres is a way tp communicate, i know some people are less social than others so i let them be, but others dont undestand this and it make them feel bad. Like if you ignore a moth who wants to be nice , probably that wouldnt be a good experience but i understand there are different cases
I didn’t really feel it as a fight, just a bunch of ppl disliking a system and afraid of it being a reality soon.
In live I just keep confetti emote on hand because I can never find the bow lol
I guess that'll be a good thing about starting Beta at the beginning since I'll have less emotes 😂 (google tho 😬)
Is sky rly going to implement that dumb afk thing into live??
Not sure yet!
We don’t know, everything in beta is subject to change and being scrapped, and you should treat it that way as well
Does anyone know how long the next season is going to be?
All seasons are 10 weeks long
I hope not cuz so far I haven't seen a single person who is happy about the afk thing
it feels like season of dreams just ended
Well it did lol
Theres some people tho
Does anyone know how much the season is going to cost?
A new season a new beginning a new journey and a new experience
Get set go.
It costs the same as every season does, these questions aren’t beta related
Im sure those ppl will never get uber burnout and always be happy to touch their phone every 2 min. Imagine how fun that is
The afk timer is short for testing purposes, we want to make sure things are working correctly before adding anything else.
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It may change from beta to live if you mean seasonal candles
I asked in the normal chat some time ago they said to go to beta
To quote myself from. A while ago. Seraph is like..Steve coming to smash. Came when we needed them the most. 😔
yknow those fairy lights or something really completed the tree in my opinion, oh my gosh they are so cute
being a moth again and having to watch the cutscenes makes me feel so moth like
Btw just saying people's play styles are different we are not to advice the players this is how or not how to play some are not good at socializing. some are always socializing some always help some dont even care about others.
but only thing is to avoid being rude to other players like insulting or purposely getting others in harms way. or if you are too young to socialize make sure a parent is with you.
Beta isn't an indication of what's going to happen in live, even though the season is active here. You can find some pictures for the current prices in #beta-screenshots-videos if you want to, but testers are discouraged to make guides or answer those kinds of questions because things can change a lot until it goes Live
Basically, if you really want an exact answer you need to wait until the season begins because no one knows 😄
I can't wait for the new hairs to go to live
I agree. From a server load perspective maybe close game for ppl who just stay still in one place and do nothing, I find ppl afk motionless all the time. Being ubered seems like normal game play not afk imo
I'm so excited for the new green cape it's g o r g e o u s
also i am new to beta and i have a question, do we get to see the upcoming traveling spirits or are those spirits just random?
I am SO ready to update my Peridot cosplay with that cape 
completely random just as in the live version
I literally made a sky OC with that cape I love the cape so much,,,
Wow, get that invisible cape sure is a lot a work, I think my sky kid is crippled now
We could suggest to TGC not consider players that are holding hands or on piggy back as AFK.... after all Sky kids sit after a while without interacting with the game and stop holding hands or using piggyback
We have been in need of a green cape...only default, tier 2 and the earth day.
It's literally my favorite color and I wished there was more of it.
it's random and same as live, i guess
beta is an exact copy of live game(with no real money involvement = all money items are free) and it's a copy to test and try everything, so that lives at live be peaceful
I like the overal 🤌
We need more green cosmetics in general tbh
Afk people should pull out an umbrella or tent (as an afk animation) in case the players go afk in dangerous areas 

